:00:38. > :00:39.Hello and welcome to the Daily Politics.
:00:40. > :00:42.David Cameron sets out his EU renegotiation demands.
:00:43. > :00:46.He says achieving them is not "mission impossible" and that he'll
:00:47. > :00:51.campaign to stay in a reformed EU with all his heart and soul.
:00:52. > :00:54.The Government's Trade Union Bill - which tightens up strike rules -
:00:55. > :00:59.The leader of the RMT union joins us live.
:01:00. > :01:03.The start of Sunday trading in the '90s.
:01:04. > :01:06.George Osborne wants to see more of it, but his plans for further
:01:07. > :01:09.relaxation could be in jeopardy, as the SNP decides it will join
:01:10. > :01:15.Tory rebels to vote against the plan.
:01:16. > :01:16.And as Finland adopts official national emojis -
:01:17. > :01:19.including people in a sauna - to promote the country
:01:20. > :01:22.on social media, should the UK do the same?
:01:23. > :01:32.And if so, what images should we use?
:01:33. > :01:35.All that in the next hour and with us for the whole
:01:36. > :01:37.of the programme today Gordon Brown's former trade minister -
:01:38. > :01:42.and a former head of the CBI - Digby Jones.
:01:43. > :01:55.First, let's just take a look at another story around this morning,
:01:56. > :01:58.that the head of the NHS in England, Simon Stevens, has apparently
:01:59. > :02:01.warned George Osborne that he's in danger of breaking his pledge
:02:02. > :02:05.According to the Times, Mr Stevens has told the Chancellor he needs to
:02:06. > :02:09.stump up more cash for the NHS to make up for cuts to social care
:02:10. > :02:22.Should George Osborne find that money? In the short term there will
:02:23. > :02:27.be bankruptcy in the next two years. No politician in any party can
:02:28. > :02:32.afford to have that on their watch. Should he telescope it forward so
:02:33. > :02:37.over the parliament it is the same spend, but he brings it in now, I do
:02:38. > :02:44.not think he will have a choice. The problem is it is hypocrisy from
:02:45. > :02:48.everybody who always talk about how a bit more money will fix this and
:02:49. > :02:52.the moment anybody talks about reform, anybody left of centre says
:02:53. > :02:59.you want to privatise it. Whoever said that? All they say is it cannot
:03:00. > :03:03.go on like this. There was a little girl born this morning at Saint
:03:04. > :03:11.Thomas's over the river and she has got one in three chance being alive
:03:12. > :03:17.in 100 years from today. If it is a boy it is one in four. You cannot
:03:18. > :03:21.have a system that was created in a different world that the different
:03:22. > :03:25.demographic, with different health care and different issues, and saved
:03:26. > :03:32.through political ideology it will be OK if you give it more money. It
:03:33. > :03:35.will not. You agree that we have to look at a different way of doing it
:03:36. > :03:44.and it cannot be a purely taxpayer funded service? On Question Time,
:03:45. > :03:50.people say tax the bankers, you could do that, but it will not be
:03:51. > :03:54.sorted. It is an enormous shift in what is expected for how many people
:03:55. > :03:59.in a competitive. Environment It cannot go on like this. Should he
:04:00. > :04:05.fix it urgently now to get him over a hump? He has not got a choice, but
:04:06. > :04:10.it does not fix the issue. One issue is about how we fund the NHS in the
:04:11. > :04:15.long term and there are cuts to other departmental spending on
:04:16. > :04:20.social care and public health campaigns to cut down on anything
:04:21. > :04:25.from obesity and healthy eating which make the NHS's job more
:04:26. > :04:30.difficult. It is a mix. If you are going to fix it, you have to fund it
:04:31. > :04:37.differently. Secondly, prevention is better than cure. Get people
:04:38. > :04:44.thinking more on health care, get a lot of public education out there.
:04:45. > :04:48.The problem for the public sector and number 11 looking at the issue,
:04:49. > :04:53.if you keep saying I will ring fence this and that and the cost of that
:04:54. > :04:57.goes up, and you ring fenced it, everything else has to, by
:04:58. > :05:07.definition, because you have only got a port of 100%... Hence the
:05:08. > :05:14.After Xi Jinping's state visit to the UK last month, sales of what
:05:15. > :05:29.At the end of the show Digby will give us the correct answer.
:05:30. > :05:36.Oakbank you. You are welcome, we aim to please.
:05:37. > :05:39.So the letter outlining the Prime Minister's demands
:05:40. > :05:41.for reform of the European Union has arrived in Brussels.
:05:42. > :05:44.David Cameron wants the plans discussed at a big summit in
:05:45. > :05:46.December, but whether he's able to reach an agreement before holding
:05:47. > :05:50.Mr Cameron will say the mission is big, but not impossible,
:05:51. > :05:56.First up, he wants to boost Europe's economic competitiveness,
:05:57. > :06:00.open up the single market and secure international trade deals.
:06:01. > :06:04.Next up, the PM wants to exempt the UK from the concept
:06:05. > :06:11.of ever closer union, have no more powers transferred to Brussels and
:06:12. > :06:13.give national parliaments a bigger say.
:06:14. > :06:15.Then David Cameron wants those countries like the UK who
:06:16. > :06:20.don't use the euro to be protected from eurozone countries acting as
:06:21. > :06:24.Finally the big one, which many believe will be
:06:25. > :06:28.impossible, restricting EU immigrants access to benefits,
:06:29. > :06:35.For many European nations this is a step to far, however with
:06:36. > :06:39.the government publishing figures showing 43% of EU migrants receive
:06:40. > :06:44.benefits in the UK, it's a seen in London as a crucial issue.
:06:45. > :06:49.Earlier this morning David Cameron gave a speech outlining his plans,
:06:50. > :06:53.afterwards he was asked about the timescale of the negotiations.
:06:54. > :06:59.I have, since the election, been patiently meeting with European
:07:00. > :07:06.But as well as patient, as well as wanting to get on with it,
:07:07. > :07:11.Europe has got a lot on its agenda at the moment, not least the Syrian
:07:12. > :07:15.crisis and all the ramifications that has, but I hope we can make
:07:16. > :07:20.I have done everything possible to try and make that happen.
:07:21. > :07:23.We don't have to hold our referendum until the end of
:07:24. > :07:27.2017, but I am keen to secure these changes to get on with it and I will
:07:28. > :07:32.Just on referendum timing to put the press out of their agony, I can
:07:33. > :07:39.The first you will hear about the timing of the referendum is after I
:07:40. > :07:45.Anything you write before then, you can write what you like, it might be
:07:46. > :07:48.true, it might not be true, but the only time you will know is when
:07:49. > :07:53.Let's talk now to our political correspondent Eleanor
:07:54. > :08:07.Many critics of the Prime Minister, and Eurosceptics within the
:08:08. > :08:11.Conservative Party, will say this is a figleaf from David Cameron
:08:12. > :08:17.disguising the fact he cannot really negotiate anything substantial. Yes,
:08:18. > :08:21.some are saying it will be easy for David Cameron to achieve all these
:08:22. > :08:27.demands because they say it is a trivia list of demands that will be
:08:28. > :08:32.easy to achieve. Some, whatever David Cameron once, for some it will
:08:33. > :08:37.never be enough. There are some Eurosceptics he will never be able
:08:38. > :08:43.to please. The criticisms are that in David Cameron's demands there is
:08:44. > :08:48.no emergency brake, no cap on the number of EU migrants that can come
:08:49. > :08:54.here, no opt out on specific policies the UK could opt out. Some
:08:55. > :08:59.are saying it will be very easy for David Cameron. He himself is saying
:09:00. > :09:04.it is a big, but not impossible task. He is going to approach the EU
:09:05. > :09:09.referendum is the biggest question we will ever face at the ballot box
:09:10. > :09:12.in our lifetimes. He is going to face it practically, not
:09:13. > :09:19.emotionally, and he will be using his head and not his heart. After
:09:20. > :09:23.the emotion of some of this or not, what about restricting EU migrants
:09:24. > :09:29.access to in work benefits here in the UK. Is that the critical one for
:09:30. > :09:35.most people? That is absolutely the critical one, but it is also the
:09:36. > :09:39.great unknown. Will those demands to restrict migrant benefits make a
:09:40. > :09:43.difference? David Cameron is making this the central plank of his
:09:44. > :09:49.re-negotiation argument. The stakes are high on this and he is putting a
:09:50. > :09:52.lot of eggs in this basket. Some are saying it will not make a
:09:53. > :10:06.difference, it is not good enough and others are saying it is
:10:07. > :10:09.important and it will be difficult for him to sell across the European
:10:10. > :10:11.Union to those leaders from countries like Poland. They say it
:10:12. > :10:13.discriminates against their own citizens. You could have a Polish
:10:14. > :10:16.worker and a UK worker doing the same job in Britain side-by-side but
:10:17. > :10:20.being paid a different amount because one would be able to get in
:10:21. > :10:27.work benefits and the other would not be able to. David Cameron has
:10:28. > :10:32.used a figure today and he says around 40% of EU migrants get
:10:33. > :10:35.benefits and two thirds of them are getting in work benefits.
:10:36. > :10:40.Interestingly, that figure has come from Downing Street and not the
:10:41. > :10:53.Treasury and not the Department of Work and Pensions and it is a figure
:10:54. > :10:56.we have been unable to clarify. We are trying to work out how they have
:10:57. > :10:59.calculated it, but we have not had any luck. Experts are also
:11:00. > :11:01.struggling. It is clear this will be the most politically divisive idea
:11:02. > :11:06.and it will be the hardest to sell across the European Union. The
:11:07. > :11:10.president of the European Parliament, Martin Schultz, has put
:11:11. > :11:14.out a response saying he has strong doubts about the legality of a
:11:15. > :11:20.four-year ban on access to benefits. He said he would wait to see what
:11:21. > :11:24.specific ideas the British Government would come up with. The
:11:25. > :11:27.stakes are high on this one and David Cameron is putting a lot of
:11:28. > :11:31.We've been joined by the former Conservative MP Laura Sandys,
:11:32. > :11:32.who chairs the European Movement,
:11:33. > :11:38.and by Ukip's trade spokesman William Dartmouth.
:11:39. > :11:44.Laura, even if the Prime Minister reaches agreement on all of these
:11:45. > :11:49.issues, will anything have substantially changed with our
:11:50. > :11:53.relationship with the EU? It will have, but it would not be just for
:11:54. > :12:00.us. Some of these reforms are about changing other countries'
:12:01. > :12:05.relationships with the EU as well. Some are specifically about the UK,
:12:06. > :12:08.but others, on the democracy site and allowing greater power for
:12:09. > :12:13.Parliament, will be for everybody in Europe. What will be so different
:12:14. > :12:25.that I will be able to immediately tell, for example the protection of
:12:26. > :12:29.the single market? Those things are not tangible in terms of a great
:12:30. > :12:36.change in our relationship to the EU. They do not look fantastic on a
:12:37. > :12:42.leaflet going through our door, the retail offer as such. But they are
:12:43. > :12:47.important in shaping Europe so that it is a more inch in with our
:12:48. > :12:52.political settlement and how we see the world going forward. We have got
:12:53. > :12:57.Denmark and a huge amount of payment interests and the Dutch and the
:12:58. > :13:02.polls and many of the Baltic states. Do you think it will be enough, if
:13:03. > :13:08.not to satisfy you and your colleagues, but to satisfy more of
:13:09. > :13:12.the British public? No, this negotiation is trivial. What he is
:13:13. > :13:16.asking for does not amount to anything. This negotiation is a sure
:13:17. > :13:21.ride which demeans the office of Prime Minister. I have to agree to
:13:22. > :13:25.disagree with your colleague. Fiddling about with benefits is a
:13:26. > :13:30.very little idea and it shows the paucity of the Prime Minister's
:13:31. > :13:35.demands that he considers that fiddling about with the benefits can
:13:36. > :13:41.be described as the little one. You are either in the political European
:13:42. > :13:50.Union or not. A serious negotiation would ask for an end to borders and
:13:51. > :13:57.repatriated. It was party policy before David Cameron became leader.
:13:58. > :14:01.What do you say to that? For many of your conservative colleagues in
:14:02. > :14:05.Parliament they will feel the same. There are people who whatever the
:14:06. > :14:11.Prime Minister was either asking or getting would find it not enough. In
:14:12. > :14:17.many ways this has been set up by those people who want out whatever.
:14:18. > :14:20.It is not a problem. We are moving forward and every organisation
:14:21. > :14:24.should be going through a reform programme. We should be demanding
:14:25. > :14:29.the best in the institutions we sit at the top table with. We have got a
:14:30. > :14:33.clear set of questions to ask the European Union and I hope we get
:14:34. > :14:39.quite a lot of what we want. Listening to both you and Laura, who
:14:40. > :14:46.is right? Is this shopping list meaningless? Or is it important in
:14:47. > :14:53.the broader sense of changing the whole direction? It depends on the
:14:54. > :14:56.Jewry that would judge the word trivial and reform. If this is a
:14:57. > :15:01.party political exercise where you have the leader of the Conservative
:15:02. > :15:06.Party trying to sort out his backbench, it is not trivial. How
:15:07. > :15:12.does it look to you? The problem is I stand for business and we have got
:15:13. > :15:16.the European Union that is marching forward by the day. You have got
:15:17. > :15:22.India wanting your lunch and China wanting your dinner, you have got a
:15:23. > :15:26.global competitive environment. You have got 520 million people living
:15:27. > :15:31.in peace for the first time. You have got a democratic, capitalist
:15:32. > :15:36.home for people who came out of the yoke of communism, a fabulous
:15:37. > :15:39.achievement, and yet you have got economies inside the European Union
:15:40. > :15:47.who think they can build a sustainable, competitive, global
:15:48. > :15:53.economy by inputting BMWs and exporting a common farming policy.
:15:54. > :15:57.If there was no reform whatsoever, I believe Europe is not fit for
:15:58. > :16:01.purpose, for the United Kingdom and for medium and small business, but I
:16:02. > :16:04.would vote to stay in a reformed Europe. A reformed Europe is not on
:16:05. > :16:14.offer. Can I just ask, for business, we are
:16:15. > :16:22.just about to finalise the digital single market. The service and
:16:23. > :16:29.single market, totally to the UK. You guys always go polemic. You all
:16:30. > :16:33.about either yes! No! Can't you understand, the average
:16:34. > :16:37.businesswoman or businessmen in Britain actually looks at this
:16:38. > :16:44.holistically and they look at this in competitive terms. There are some
:16:45. > :16:51.great stuff going on. Can I just say that John Cridland, the head of the
:16:52. > :16:56.CBI is all in and he thinks he represents the voice of business
:16:57. > :17:01.people as well. You never bought a house by offering the vendors are
:17:02. > :17:04.whole asking price on day one. The CBI have been engineered into that
:17:05. > :17:10.is where they are. They need to take a deep breath, go back to their
:17:11. > :17:13.roots and go back to when the democratically elected Prime
:17:14. > :17:20.Minister of the country will come back to the people, he will tell you
:17:21. > :17:24.what it is. Those who wish to leave the EU will often cite Norway as an
:17:25. > :17:32.example to follow. But people do cite it. Maybe not you, but people
:17:33. > :17:35.do. Do you accept that even from Norway's perspective, certainly at
:17:36. > :17:38.an official level, the Foreign Minister wrote that Britain should
:17:39. > :17:43.not choose his country as an example as they still have to accept freedom
:17:44. > :17:47.of movement and accept directives from Brussels. This idea of being
:17:48. > :17:50.outside the EU but still in the broader economic area, you would
:17:51. > :18:02.still be subject to those restrictions. We do not put forward
:18:03. > :18:06.the blueprint of either Norway or Switzerland or for that matter
:18:07. > :18:12.Iceland. We are the fifth largest economy in the world and providing
:18:13. > :18:15.we don't have politicians like David Cameron who sells the past before it
:18:16. > :18:22.is begun, we would be able to negotiate a much better arrangement.
:18:23. > :18:29.Can I answer your second question? The fact is, in the European Union,
:18:30. > :18:35.we have 8.24% of the votes that the Council of ministers. If Turkey gets
:18:36. > :18:39.what the Labour Party wants, it will be fewer. We have less than 10% of
:18:40. > :18:45.MPs, we have one out of 28 commissioners. Also, in the councils
:18:46. > :18:50.of the world, particularly in trade, our voice is muted as one out of 28.
:18:51. > :18:53.The short answer to your question is, both Norway and Switzerland have
:18:54. > :18:58.better arrangement than we did but we can do better than either of
:18:59. > :19:01.them. What is extraordinary is the idea we are pushed around by the
:19:02. > :19:06.dastardly foreigners when we are in the EU and the day we come out of
:19:07. > :19:08.the EU, we are so strong, so powerful, have so much leveraged
:19:09. > :19:16.that we will be able to get this phenomenal deal. One or the other.
:19:17. > :19:23.First of all on day one we could reactivate our seat at the World
:19:24. > :19:30.Trade Organisation. We no longer have to... One thing, on that, what
:19:31. > :19:34.does make you think, and you're so convinced that Brussels would
:19:35. > :19:41.negotiate for us such a great deal. Why would they, if we had pulled
:19:42. > :19:48.out, which they don't want us to do. I would like to point out that the
:19:49. > :19:58.three biggest exploits exporters to the UK do not have a trade deal. It
:19:59. > :20:04.is not absolutely necessary. In practice, because we run a very
:20:05. > :20:08.large deficit, it is about ?687 billion since we joined, trade deal
:20:09. > :20:11.is not necessarily but it is absolutely inevitable because it is
:20:12. > :20:15.in the economic interests of Brussels for there to be one. Let me
:20:16. > :20:21.briefly move on to the issue of accessing in work benefits. You said
:20:22. > :20:27.that as trivial. Is that important in your mind? Is in work benefits
:20:28. > :20:32.could be limited to the four years? Reform should go further than this.
:20:33. > :20:38.One of the companies I chair, we cannot get enough engineers. We have
:20:39. > :20:43.job offers out to Indian university graduates, who cannot get a visa,
:20:44. > :20:48.because the government wants to cut down on immigration. And yet we have
:20:49. > :20:54.people from Eastern Europe who are sitting at our factory gates saying
:20:55. > :20:58.give us a job. As they write. Yes, but the point is, if we are looking
:20:59. > :21:02.at this as global competitiveness for the European Union, we should be
:21:03. > :21:06.saying to those people who have no skill in Europe, I'm not going to
:21:07. > :21:07.give you money to subsidise you for growing crops,
:21:08. > :21:10.give you money to subsidise you for money to skill you up and then you
:21:11. > :21:11.are fro welcome to come money to skill you up and then you
:21:12. > :21:21.At the moment, you are not fit money to skill you up and then you
:21:22. > :21:26.purpose. Is it achievable? It is not achievable under the
:21:27. > :21:28.purpose. Is it achievable? It is not principal of European Union. It is a
:21:29. > :21:31.cornerstone. It would be principal of European Union. It is a
:21:32. > :21:37.discriminatory. Is David Cameron to get four years or
:21:38. > :21:39.would he have to impose the same restrictions on British citizens? I
:21:40. > :21:44.think those negotiations will restrictions on British citizens? I
:21:45. > :21:50.to be had. The polls do not want a lot of those very talented skilled
:21:51. > :21:51.people to come to the UK. We have to be clear about the migration issue
:21:52. > :22:05.and that is Brexit will not be clear about the migration issue
:22:06. > :22:07.barriers up. ... All you do is put a condition of immigration on skill
:22:08. > :22:10.rather than nationality. Lord condition of immigration on skill
:22:11. > :22:16.Jones made an important point condition of immigration on skill
:22:17. > :22:19.is this, because we have opened doors to 450 million people
:22:20. > :22:23.is this, because we have opened member states of the European Union,
:22:24. > :22:24.it means the whole weight of immigration control. People from
:22:25. > :22:29.outside the EU. For immigration control. People from
:22:30. > :22:32.engineering graduates can either not get here or get hit with great
:22:33. > :22:36.difficulty and that is a key point. In fact, that is why our slogan is
:22:37. > :22:40.out of the EU and into In fact, that is why our slogan is
:22:41. > :22:41.will have to end it there. Thank you.
:22:42. > :22:44.Before Parliament takes a few day off for recess, MPs have a last
:22:45. > :22:47.chance to debate the contentious Trade Union Bill today, as the
:22:48. > :22:49.government legislation goes through report stage and third reading.
:22:50. > :22:52.The Business Secretary Sajid Javid has said the Bill is necessary
:22:53. > :22:54.to stop "endless" threats of industrial action.
:22:55. > :22:57.But trade unions, civil liberties groups and even some council leaders
:22:58. > :22:59.are against the measures - which include imposing a minimum
:23:00. > :23:05.50% turnout in strike ballots and allowing employers to use agency
:23:06. > :23:11.Labour is staunchly opposed - as Jeremy Corbyn made clear
:23:12. > :23:20.when he addressed the TUC conference in September.
:23:21. > :23:26.They are declaring war on organised Labour in this country ever since
:23:27. > :23:31.they won the general election, albeit with 24% of the electorate.
:23:32. > :23:36.We have to oppose it and recognise what they are doing. The burdens
:23:37. > :23:40.they are placing, as one Tory MP admitted, are actually the strategy
:23:41. > :23:47.which was used by General Franco in Spain on his control of the trade
:23:48. > :23:50.unions in Spain. Trade unions are an essential and valuable part of
:23:51. > :23:54.modern Britain. 6 million people voluntarily join trade unions and I
:23:55. > :23:58.am proud to be a trade unionist. That is why we will fight this bill
:23:59. > :24:00.all the way. We've been joined by Mick Cash,
:24:01. > :24:03.the general secretary of and by the Conservative MP
:24:04. > :24:11.Nadhim Zahawi. Aside from a few concessions, it
:24:12. > :24:16.looks like these proposals are going through. You have lost the battle?
:24:17. > :24:20.Not really. Yesterday we saw an announcement from George Osborne to
:24:21. > :24:24.cut 30% from government spending and what we are trying to do is take
:24:25. > :24:30.trade unions out. We are not going to stop here. We will continue
:24:31. > :24:33.fighting. How will that fight manifested itself? I wouldn't rule
:24:34. > :24:40.nothing out or rule nothing in. We are all working people, seeking to
:24:41. > :24:42.defend jobs, security, safety and pensions and will become
:24:43. > :24:46.increasingly angry at what the government is trying to do to
:24:47. > :24:50.restrict their fundamental right to strike. Even David Davis your
:24:51. > :24:55.colleague has called this bill over the top. He compared it to something
:24:56. > :24:59.from General Franco's regime, oppressive? I don't agree with that.
:25:00. > :25:05.Over the last ten Tube strikes, half of those would not have met the
:25:06. > :25:08.threshold. Let me give you a quick example. This will hurt part-time
:25:09. > :25:12.workers, shift workers, people on lower pay who would lose hold a's
:25:13. > :25:20.work if Nick and his union, they have every right, but what we are
:25:21. > :25:24.saying is, let's make this fair. If you reach the threshold, if you can
:25:25. > :25:30.convince enough of your members to vote for strikes, not 11% or 10% at
:25:31. > :25:34.times, where you actually disrupt the workforce, that is unfair. I
:25:35. > :25:38.think this is about fairness and getting the trade unionists to work
:25:39. > :25:44.really well and fairly, not calling strikes randomly and hurting those
:25:45. > :25:49.on low pay, hurting those in most need who will lose a whole day 's
:25:50. > :25:53.work because they work shifts or work night. You are not the only
:25:54. > :25:58.workers involved in this debate. There are people who cannot get to
:25:59. > :26:07.work because of strike action. But I will not take a lecture from a
:26:08. > :26:12.millionaire. Answer the point about fairness? Take the latest situation
:26:13. > :26:19.around London Underground and the tube strike. Boris Johnson announced
:26:20. > :26:24.the night Tube in November 2013. In March 2015 he decided to come and
:26:25. > :26:27.talk to us as a trade union and save from September 20 15th we are going
:26:28. > :26:31.to introduce night to be. He didn't give us any time to talk about what
:26:32. > :26:36.the real implications were. Your mate Boris had to turn round and
:26:37. > :26:41.withdraw the deadline because he got it wrong, completely and utterly
:26:42. > :26:45.wrong. He is now actually saying we don't need it in immediately. He
:26:46. > :26:49.forced our members to have to go to industrial action to try and get a
:26:50. > :26:54.decent set of worklife balance is sorted out where we didn't have to
:26:55. > :26:58.do that. So don't lecture me when you have got the Mayor of London...
:26:59. > :27:05.You have every right to withdraw labour. All we are saying is it has
:27:06. > :27:09.to be fair and that has to be a threshold. In areas where it really
:27:10. > :27:15.does matter. That Goldsmith has asked for it to be upgraded. It
:27:16. > :27:19.really should work. You are hurting the whole of London. We turn round
:27:20. > :27:28.and your threshold, we turn round and get 50% which we did with
:27:29. > :27:32.Network Rail dispute this year, ... At this moment in time we have
:27:33. > :27:37.reached the threshold. Why then in those circumstances have got a
:27:38. > :27:40.mandate of over 50% of workers voting for industrial action? IE
:27:41. > :27:47.then turning around and saying we will get agency workers? That is a
:27:48. > :27:51.different point. We have a situation where we have a mandate, you have a
:27:52. > :27:56.mandate, you have been elected by people... And they have got a
:27:57. > :28:02.mandate. But then to turn round and say we should ignore that
:28:03. > :28:07.mandate... The average person watching this will think you should
:28:08. > :28:10.go into politics because you don't question. You immediately move to
:28:11. > :28:13.the fact that you think this is wrong, they think this is right.
:28:14. > :28:17.What you didn't answer was a question that the average person
:28:18. > :28:21.watching this would want to know, which is, if you got over the 50%, I
:28:22. > :28:27.think most people here would say, have your strike and have the row.
:28:28. > :28:34.What really annoys people is when a very small minority of people, use
:28:35. > :28:39.-- you cause staggering disruption. That is the person you annoy, the
:28:40. > :28:44.average Joe out there who cannot get to work and finds it unfair. What
:28:45. > :28:51.Joe asked is answer the charge that is not fair. You said I am not going
:28:52. > :28:58.to take lectures from millionaires. Who said that you should? Let me put
:28:59. > :29:01.one of the points to Nadhim Zahawi, on the 50%, that is one issue. You
:29:02. > :29:09.put that in the manifesto and to one extent you have a mandate for that,
:29:10. > :29:12.but why all the other parts of the bill which Mick was referring to.
:29:13. > :29:18.Why bring in agency staff, why have rules that they have to tweak their
:29:19. > :29:24.details of strike action weeks in advance. That then tipped it over
:29:25. > :29:26.the fairness barrier? You have got to allow business and the
:29:27. > :29:32.infrastructure of our country to be able to manage, if they can, through
:29:33. > :29:37.agency staff then they should be able to do that. All of that. It is
:29:38. > :29:43.in depicting code. Well putting it in legislation so we actually make
:29:44. > :29:46.it rock-solid to the point that Digby is making, so the average
:29:47. > :29:53.viewer sees this as being fair. It is all in the picketing code. Mr
:29:54. > :29:56.McCluskey is prepared to agree plans for a double threshold strike
:29:57. > :30:00.providing the government allows online voting. Would you agree to
:30:01. > :30:04.that compromise? At the end of the day we have to look at the whole
:30:05. > :30:10.package. That has been a sticking point when I have interviewed other
:30:11. > :30:16.colleagues. Online voting is the key. That deals with one issue but
:30:17. > :30:20.it does not deal with the other stuff you mentioned which is all
:30:21. > :30:24.about trying to stop and new trusts and stop of having the right to take
:30:25. > :30:31.industrial action. With all due respect...
:30:32. > :30:39.Which bit is stopping you? If you get the 50% turnout, you can go
:30:40. > :30:45.ahead with your strike. What is written into the bill is the legal
:30:46. > :30:51.wording. What you can put on the ballot paper, what notice you have
:30:52. > :30:56.to give. That is all in the picketing code. You know this. It
:30:57. > :31:01.has allowed lawyers to turn round and in Judd the trade unions once
:31:02. > :31:06.you have got a mandate. If you turn around and say we just won the 50%
:31:07. > :31:14.stuff, that would be a different debate. You are putting other stuff
:31:15. > :31:18.in. Is there room for compromise. ? If there was compromise on some of
:31:19. > :31:23.the issues may be in the picketing code, then you would get the trade
:31:24. > :31:29.union on board. Would you go to online voting? This is not like
:31:30. > :31:33.Internet banking. If you make a mistake on Internet banking, your
:31:34. > :31:41.bank can make recompense. If your boat goes, it is gone. We have to
:31:42. > :31:47.make sure it is robust. I think we have got the right legislation. Once
:31:48. > :31:52.we get it through we will find goods trade unions, and you have every
:31:53. > :31:57.right to represent your members and people have every right to withdraw
:31:58. > :32:02.labour, it will be a fair system for our country. We all want to do
:32:03. > :32:08.better. I want to do better for those people who are working shifts,
:32:09. > :32:11.who are taking low pay. Those people hurt the most when people go on
:32:12. > :32:17.strike because they lose a whole day's wage packet. That is what this
:32:18. > :32:22.is about. I will have to finish it you.
:32:23. > :32:26.Might be worth checking, because the rules have changed.
:32:27. > :32:29.Now people must register to vote individually rather than being
:32:30. > :32:32.listed on a form filled in by one member of their household.
:32:33. > :32:35.Anyone not on this new list by December the 1st could find they
:32:36. > :32:38.Ministers say it's all about accuracy,
:32:39. > :32:39.Labour say it's about something far more sinister.
:32:40. > :32:43.You would think there was an election.
:32:44. > :32:45.Actually, this Birmingham MP is knocking on doors worried
:32:46. > :32:52.his voters might not have made it onto the electoral register.
:32:53. > :32:58.In fact, nationally they say up to a million people could lose
:32:59. > :33:01.their right to vote because they don't know the rules are changing.
:33:02. > :33:04.If it carries on as it is going, we are going to find lots
:33:05. > :33:07.of people lose out and it will be one of these great
:33:08. > :33:13.post election scandals when we see what happens to the missing voters.
:33:14. > :33:16.In England Birmingham has the highest number of names that
:33:17. > :33:19.used to be on the electoral roll who are not on it now.
:33:20. > :33:24.Nearly 57,000, more than 7% of the city's voting population.
:33:25. > :33:31.It is more than 67,000 in Glasgow and just under 44,000
:33:32. > :33:48.But the Government insists the new system will provide a more accurate
:33:49. > :34:12.in particular are closely reflecting on what is going on.
:34:13. > :34:15.That is because at the next general election the number
:34:16. > :34:22.They will be using the new electoral roll to decide how
:34:23. > :34:29.Here in Birmingham the constituency lines will look very different.
:34:30. > :34:32.If the numbers of voters in a particular constituency are deemed
:34:33. > :34:37.artificially reduced, because people have wrongly been removed from the
:34:38. > :34:43.register, then that will affect the calculations for boundary changes
:34:44. > :34:47.and those will work in favour of the Conservative Party.
:34:48. > :34:51.That is not about improving or extending democracy,
:34:52. > :34:56.that is about rigging an election system to favour one party.
:34:57. > :34:58.The government says it will have given local authorities
:34:59. > :35:02.an extra ?3 million to help with registration and every household
:35:03. > :35:05.will have been contacted nine times by the local council.
:35:06. > :35:10.Ten if you include Labour who do not want to leave anything to chance.
:35:11. > :35:14.And we've been joined by the minister for constitutional reform
:35:15. > :35:16.John Penrose, and by Labour's Gloria de Piero,
:35:17. > :35:18.who is the shadow minister for voter registration.
:35:19. > :35:35.John, let's look at the figures. As of May when the figures were last
:35:36. > :35:40.collated there were 1,000,858 322 missing voters, voters who had yet
:35:41. > :35:44.to put themselves through the individual register. What grounds
:35:45. > :35:49.have you made since May to close that figure down? We have not got
:35:50. > :35:55.official figures, but we are getting returns in and I cannot give you a
:35:56. > :36:00.final number yet. Is it half? I cannot give you a fair answer, but
:36:01. > :36:05.after all that effort which you just mentioned of contacting people nine
:36:06. > :36:09.times, we will have worked out who has moved house or died, or who is a
:36:10. > :36:15.genuine voter and they will be registered and they will be able to
:36:16. > :36:19.vote in May. If they are not, we can reregister them online in three
:36:20. > :36:31.minutes. It would be a huge failure if anything two that number remained
:36:32. > :36:36.not on the register. It would be a huge failure if people were not on
:36:37. > :36:40.the register. We have to find people who are not registered at all, it is
:36:41. > :36:45.not a question of crossing them off, there are groups out there who need
:36:46. > :36:50.to be persuaded to vote and to get on the register, otherwise our
:36:51. > :36:54.democracy is not complete. They are making a huge effort. The
:36:55. > :36:59.independent body set up by Parliament, and what is the point of
:37:00. > :37:03.setting them up if you ignore at their advice, do not limit it and do
:37:04. > :37:08.not bring forward the transition to individual registration until
:37:09. > :37:14.December. They have said you would risk losing electors and those are
:37:15. > :37:18.the figures you have seen. I have no doubt that those numbers have fallen
:37:19. > :37:24.now. I was doing a quick search on Google and in Camden there are only
:37:25. > :37:33.ten days left for inclusion and there are 8000 missing. My own
:37:34. > :37:36.constituency is about 650. But it is people in private, rented housing
:37:37. > :37:39.and people who moved on a lot, often people who Abu Ghraib because they
:37:40. > :37:44.can get mortgages because they are at risk. Why did you bring it
:37:45. > :37:53.forward because you did not have to and you were advised not to? You
:37:54. > :37:58.already mentioned the Association of Electoral Administrators, they
:37:59. > :38:03.thought it was a good idea. There are important elections coming up
:38:04. > :38:07.next year, the London Mayor, the Scottish parliament, local elections
:38:08. > :38:12.in England and the Welsh assembly. We need to have an accurate register
:38:13. > :38:17.for those elections as much as anything else. After you have
:38:18. > :38:23.contacted people for nine times... How many times can you contact
:38:24. > :38:29.people? I moved house in London where I am in the private, rented
:38:30. > :38:34.sector. I started paying my council tax in July. There was a reasonable
:38:35. > :38:38.time to data match me and nobody contacted me, I never saw a letter,
:38:39. > :38:43.I called them a couple of weeks ago to check what was going on. I am a
:38:44. > :38:50.living, breathing example, I am alive and kicking. We can testify to
:38:51. > :38:54.that. No one contacted me. But you are not on the register at the
:38:55. > :38:58.moment. You are a different kind of problem and we need to find people
:38:59. > :39:06.like you who are not on in the first place. If you are not on it, I
:39:07. > :39:10.cannot cross you off? What about the issue of ghost voters. A lot of
:39:11. > :39:14.these people are bogus, so there will be appearing up of the
:39:15. > :39:20.register. If you had given it extra year, you would have given it the
:39:21. > :39:26.time to knock off the bogus ones, reregister the ones who were likely
:39:27. > :39:31.to fall off. It is common sense. We do not want to lose people who want
:39:32. > :39:37.to vote. We have had 18 months and we have had a long time. I think you
:39:38. > :39:43.are confusing people who are on the register who might be wrongly
:39:44. > :39:49.crossed off. You cannot cross them off because they are not on there in
:39:50. > :39:58.the first place. I have spoken to Labour MPs and I have even gone as
:39:59. > :40:03.far as saying gerrymandering. If Labour voters do not sign up, it is
:40:04. > :40:10.good news for the Tories. It is bad news for any Democrat if the genuine
:40:11. > :40:15.elector does not sign up. But the by-product would be a benefit
:40:16. > :40:20.because many of these are in Labour constituencies. Kensington and
:40:21. > :40:26.Chelsea is not exactly a left constituency and it is one of the
:40:27. > :40:32.places with the top number missing. I know it is an fashionable to say
:40:33. > :40:36.that the Lords have a say in this. I listen to the debate in the Lords
:40:37. > :40:40.and they do know what they are talking about. They are from all the
:40:41. > :40:43.different parties. Some of the speeches from the Liberals and
:40:44. > :40:49.Labour were extremely good on this. I am crossbench, so I do not have
:40:50. > :40:56.any political act in this, but the bit I could not understand was the
:40:57. > :41:01.time issue. I cannot see why it has become party political. We want 100%
:41:02. > :41:09.inclusivity. We want to stop people voting early and often. We want to
:41:10. > :41:12.stop fraud and we want to make it as representative as possible. That has
:41:13. > :41:17.to be in the interest of all Democrats. I cannot see why we have
:41:18. > :41:21.now got this polemic situation where some people are saying the Tories
:41:22. > :41:26.are doing this, it is disgusting. Others are saying you are not doing
:41:27. > :41:31.this because you are a labour. Why can't we say, come together, we will
:41:32. > :41:36.give you more time, and we will do this together. If you did that, and
:41:37. > :41:40.you put some money into root it out to make sure those who were cheating
:41:41. > :41:45.and pretending to be others go to prison, and the people who are lost
:41:46. > :41:50.in this, I cannot imagine anybody would be lost in the system if they
:41:51. > :41:55.were an MP, but there you are, I would like to think this is in the
:41:56. > :42:02.interest of everybody. You would need more time, but in return you
:42:03. > :42:09.ought to join together. Is this about the boundary review? This is
:42:10. > :42:11.what Labour will be saying, that the outcome of the individual boat
:42:12. > :42:17.registration drive determines the boundary review. To the extent we
:42:18. > :42:21.want the boundary review to be based on accurate voter rolls, but it is
:42:22. > :42:28.also about the elections next May. If we do not get this right... You
:42:29. > :42:34.need to have a clean that list for those May elections which are
:42:35. > :42:40.important for Jeremy Corbyn. So, give them extra time. We will lose
:42:41. > :42:46.voters. There were 7000 in Camden. It is just not good enough. You
:42:47. > :42:51.could register students in halls of residence, another problem. We have
:42:52. > :42:57.pushed out quite a lot of money to help everybody do the checks.
:42:58. > :43:02.Everyone could take a box in the halls of residence. We have run out
:43:03. > :43:06.Now, should shops be allowed to stay open for longer on Sundays?
:43:07. > :43:09.The Government thinks so, but about 20 Conservative MPs
:43:10. > :43:11.are unhappy with the idea of any relaxing of Sunday trading hours.
:43:12. > :43:14.The proposed changes would only affect England and Wales,
:43:15. > :43:17.but the SNP, who are concerned about what that could mean for the wages
:43:18. > :43:20.of UK company staff in Scotland, have now said that they would vote
:43:21. > :43:26.And that's potentially a problem for David Cameron
:43:27. > :43:31.Here he is answering a question to Labour's Susan Elan Jones back in
:43:32. > :43:35.Let me just give the honourable lady and the House
:43:36. > :43:39.two examples of where I don't think the current situation works.
:43:40. > :43:43.You have got these restrictions on opening hours for many stores,
:43:44. > :43:46.somebody is shouting what about families, many stores that families
:43:47. > :43:49.would like to shop in and you have to go to these stores and you have
:43:50. > :43:52.to walk around for hours before you are actually allowed to
:43:53. > :43:57.The second point I would make is that you can shop on Sunday.
:43:58. > :44:01.You can shop anywhere on Sunday, you can do it on the Internet and I
:44:02. > :44:04.think it is time to modernise our approach,
:44:05. > :44:11.to give families more choice and to help create jobs at the same time.
:44:12. > :44:13.And we're joined now by Conservative MP Philip Davies,
:44:14. > :44:25.And we did ask the SNP for an interview, but they weren't
:44:26. > :44:32.And by Hannah Bartel from the SNP. You are now opposing plans to relax
:44:33. > :44:38.Sunday trading hours. Do you sense and government scalp? What we send
:44:39. > :44:44.is an issue that shows shop workers need to be protected and we are a
:44:45. > :44:48.large group in the Westminster parliament and we were elected by
:44:49. > :44:54.the Scottish people and we have been approached by people who have got
:44:55. > :44:56.concerns about a creep on Sunday trading and it becoming
:44:57. > :45:01.standardised. Shop workers will not be able to have protection for their
:45:02. > :45:06.Sunday pay premium. This is only in England and Wales, what has it got
:45:07. > :45:13.to do with Scotland and the SNP? If large retailers start operating as
:45:14. > :45:17.normal on across Britain, it will become another day of work and there
:45:18. > :45:30.will not be any protections. I do not see how it is, because they are
:45:31. > :45:34.people. That is an excuse. My MP in the Midlands of England, would you
:45:35. > :45:38.take exception to him coming up to Edinburgh and telling you what to do
:45:39. > :45:41.with your shops. Answer the question. I take exception
:45:42. > :45:45.with your shops. Answer the Answer the question. Hundreds of
:45:46. > :45:54.thousands of people Answer the question. Hundreds of
:45:55. > :45:56.tax credit cuts. What do you object to? Meet in Scotland telling you
:45:57. > :46:05.what to do? to? Meet in Scotland telling you
:46:06. > :46:06.the government and there is not a justifiable reason for the SNP
:46:07. > :46:19.making mischief as the I have been very clear, as has the
:46:20. > :46:23.SNP. We want to protect shop workers. The irony is, if the plans
:46:24. > :46:27.had come in earlier, we would not have got to vote on this. This does
:46:28. > :46:29.affect people in Scotland. have got to vote on this. This does
:46:30. > :46:32.English votes for English laws which have got to vote on this. This does
:46:33. > :46:41.has only just come into play. What say you, Philip Davies?
:46:42. > :46:43.has only just come into play. What shameless. Basically, the SNP have
:46:44. > :46:47.come with a game plan to Westminster which is to prove to the voters in
:46:48. > :46:51.Scotland, that they are a more effective opposition to the
:46:52. > :46:59.government and labour. That is their simple game plan. To be fair, they
:47:00. > :47:01.have done a pretty good job of it so far. I'm just pointing out that is
:47:02. > :47:04.absolutely shameless behaviour. They have looked at this and thought, we
:47:05. > :47:09.will end up in a situation where Labour will favour had a chance to
:47:10. > :47:13.defeat the government and they blew it. We have full deregulation of
:47:14. > :47:17.Sunday trading hours in Scotland, absolutely full deregulation of
:47:18. > :47:21.Sunday trading hours. In England and Wales, all we are asking for is to
:47:22. > :47:25.give our local authorities the opportunity to vary them if they so
:47:26. > :47:29.wish. The SNP with full deregulation are coming along claiming to be the
:47:30. > :47:34.supporters of workers when workers in Scotland can work or through
:47:35. > :47:38.Sunday without any restrictions. That is true. There is a different
:47:39. > :47:43.system in Scotland and shop workers or big supermarkets and shops can
:47:44. > :47:48.choose what they want to do. That retailers work across the UK. If we
:47:49. > :47:53.move to a situation where we have Sunday trading and Sunday is just
:47:54. > :47:59.another day and there is no protection for those workers... But
:48:00. > :48:04.what is there in place now for that? We have paid protection for people
:48:05. > :48:06.who work on a Sunday and a standardised system across the UK
:48:07. > :48:10.with no protection and no legislation, if the Tories want to
:48:11. > :48:17.bring forward paid protection, we willing to discuss that. It is not
:48:18. > :48:20.just Hannah Bardell and those on the SNP dentures, there are those in
:48:21. > :48:29.your own party who are not happy with this so you cannot lay the
:48:30. > :48:33.blame with the SNP? There is a distinction between people having
:48:34. > :48:44.objections and people acting shamelessly. They are shameless. You
:48:45. > :48:50.are not arguing from a shop opening point of view. The 20 who are
:48:51. > :48:54.betting against it have a legitimate objection to it. By the way, I'm not
:48:55. > :48:59.need of your sides but I look at it and think you are doing this from
:49:00. > :49:07.party politics. The 20 backbenchers who will rebel doing from principle.
:49:08. > :49:12.The Conservatives have a consultation out at the moment which
:49:13. > :49:16.makes a mockery of the system. We started sticking our noses into
:49:17. > :49:21.every single thing which which you have full devolution rights over,
:49:22. > :49:25.you would be in uproar over it. This was the Tories idea, English votes
:49:26. > :49:30.for English laws, do you think it is working well? The system is flawed.
:49:31. > :49:37.All it provides is an English veto for English laws. It does not stop
:49:38. > :49:42.anyone else from voting on them. It stops people imposing things which
:49:43. > :49:44.England doesn't like. This has illustrated the deficiency in the
:49:45. > :49:50.English votes for English laws system because it does not deliver
:49:51. > :49:54.what it does on the tin. This was not in the manifesto, the relaxation
:49:55. > :49:59.of Sunday trading hours? I don't know. I am interested in what is
:50:00. > :50:04.right and what is wrong. So you can understand why they met be against
:50:05. > :50:07.it. The polling shows no demand. The bosses big stores and the
:50:08. > :50:13.Association of convenience stores are opposed. Why you pushing this?
:50:14. > :50:17.Look at Tesco. We have the Serbs situation that the Tesco express can
:50:18. > :50:25.open any hours it likes because it is a small shop and the big Tesco
:50:26. > :50:29.can only open for six hours. The workers being treated differently is
:50:30. > :50:33.one thing but Tesco's don't mind because they charge customers more
:50:34. > :50:37.in a Tesco express than they do in a big Tesco. Hannah who says she is
:50:38. > :50:41.supporting working people and people on tight budgets, she's actually
:50:42. > :50:47.making sure that those people have to pay more for their shopping they
:50:48. > :50:52.otherwise have to if they could go to a bigger shop which charges a
:50:53. > :50:57.lower price. It is about a package of measures which work. Many of
:50:58. > :51:00.these people will be affected by the tax credits cuts. To then put in
:51:01. > :51:09.place legislation which potentially means it will affect their Sunday
:51:10. > :51:14.premium, and by the way, when USDAW did their survey 70% said they would
:51:15. > :51:19.not work. But shops could stay open and compete, that is the reality.
:51:20. > :51:23.The one thing the Prime Minister did say in that clip and he mentioned
:51:24. > :51:28.the Internet, this argument belongs to the 19th century, because
:51:29. > :51:31.actually, when you think about the Internet provides 24/7 access to
:51:32. > :51:40.shopping, someone somewhere has to get globally competitive as --
:51:41. > :51:46.competitive. There are people who think Sunday is a day of rest. There
:51:47. > :51:49.is higher churchgoing in Italy, Ireland, all of these countries
:51:50. > :51:53.which have deregulated Sunday trading. There is a discussion to be
:51:54. > :51:58.had and the Conservatives are showing this through. It is ill
:51:59. > :52:04.thought through. Have you had talks with the 20 Tory rebels? Not
:52:05. > :52:10.specifically with myself. We are just aware that they are unhappy.
:52:11. > :52:13.You will not join forces? Nope, we have made our position clear.
:52:14. > :52:15.Now, What's the best way for a country to represent itself?
:52:16. > :52:18.Many take great pride in their national anthem and flags.
:52:19. > :52:20.We had our memorable display of hospital beds to represent
:52:21. > :52:25.And now the Finnish government claims to be the first country in
:52:26. > :52:27.the world to commission emojis to help with their national branding.
:52:28. > :52:30.For those of you who haven't stepped into the brave new world,
:52:31. > :52:34.emojis are images often used in text and online communication.
:52:35. > :52:36.So let's take a look at how the Finns have chosen to
:52:37. > :52:42.The first image isn't, before any of you suggest it, me and Andrew
:52:43. > :52:48.According to wikipedia the sauna is a substantial part
:52:49. > :52:51.of Finnish culture with over three million of them for Finland's five
:52:52. > :53:00.Moving on, this is the headbanger, which pays tribute
:53:01. > :53:04.Apparently, it is dark in Finland and so is the music.
:53:05. > :53:07.There's a small headbanger living inside of each Finn.
:53:08. > :53:09.And finally, there's the good old Nokia phone
:53:10. > :53:16.Before the days of iphones and Galaxys it was the market leader.
:53:17. > :53:19.To tell us why Finland's decided to do this I'm joined by
:53:20. > :53:23.Pauliina Stahlberg, the Director of the Finnish Institute in London, and
:53:24. > :53:26.on the internet though I'm afraid without any emojis, by Professor Vyv
:53:27. > :53:33.Evans who's a Professor of Linguistics at Bangor University.
:53:34. > :53:42.Welcome to both of you. What has prompted Finland to do this? Finland
:53:43. > :53:47.loves Christmas. Santa Claus is from Finland. We love our Advent
:53:48. > :53:52.calendar. Our emojis will be our Advent calendar this year. There
:53:53. > :53:57.will be 24 of them being released on the 1st of December. To any of our
:53:58. > :54:06.viewers who do not know, can you explain the origins of emojis?
:54:07. > :54:12.Emojis started in Japan. They were released in 1999, 176 of them.
:54:13. > :54:18.Initially, they were localised to the Japanese Internet mobile sector.
:54:19. > :54:26.And then, in 2011, they became widely available globally, when
:54:27. > :54:30.Apple first incorporated them as standard in the digital keypad in
:54:31. > :54:35.mobile computing devices so smartphones, iPads and so on. In
:54:36. > :54:42.2013 they became more widely available when they were installed
:54:43. > :54:46.in android. I'm now about 6 billion of them incredibly are sent every
:54:47. > :54:54.day by the world's 2 billion smartphone users. So why the choice
:54:55. > :54:59.of symbols? It did make us laugh with the sauna symbols but obviously
:55:00. > :55:04.very important to fins? Although we are seen as being very serious, we
:55:05. > :55:10.do have emotions! Emojis portray emotions. Finnish people are very
:55:11. > :55:14.tech savvy and we love texting. We do not love showing emotion so we
:55:15. > :55:20.like to send text messages one-on-one intimately. So this is a
:55:21. > :55:22.way of us getting deeper and getting to grips with our emotions and
:55:23. > :55:28.sharing them with the world as well. You think they were apt, the
:55:29. > :55:32.head-banger, the saunas and the Nokia? Gas. So they are
:55:33. > :55:38.representative. What has been the response of your countrymen and
:55:39. > :55:40.women? They love them stop they are releasing more and we are having
:55:41. > :55:51.discussions about what they could be. There will be a very famous
:55:52. > :55:55.novel winner, our Formula One driver who does not display his emotions
:55:56. > :56:03.very much. I think I might know who that is! I cannot tell you. Are they
:56:04. > :56:09.right to attach so much significance to these? Alike that they are
:56:10. > :56:17.emotional but do not want show their emotions. 70% of the world's usage
:56:18. > :56:23.on a daily basis relates to emotions. Big brands are using
:56:24. > :56:28.emojis. They have a range of functions. Charities who deal with
:56:29. > :56:33.abused children have bespoke once. They are used in video gaming. They
:56:34. > :56:37.have a wide range of applications beyond mobile communication. And I
:56:38. > :56:41.think they do have an important value in terms of branding. It is
:56:42. > :56:47.clear from my research that it is the young really, the under 25 age
:56:48. > :56:56.group, especially in the UK who are in the vanguard of emoji usage. That
:56:57. > :56:58.doesn't surprise me. We will look at some suggestions.
:56:59. > :57:00.We've also been asking our viewers for the best emoji representations
:57:01. > :57:05.Let's take a look at them now and I apologise for the quality of these,
:57:06. > :57:25.The weather, the Royal family. I was thinking about what I would do. The
:57:26. > :57:30.Royal family, yes. I would not do the weather. We will pass over the
:57:31. > :57:34.rugby and the cricket! The Premier League is the most successful soccer
:57:35. > :57:39.so you would probably do something with that. And also individual
:57:40. > :57:40.sports, cycling, rowing, we are brilliant at. Something in sport.
:57:41. > :57:53.The weather features again. I cup of tea and the Union Jack. Patriotic.
:57:54. > :57:56.And let's have a look at this one. And finally more to my taste
:57:57. > :58:07.some beer from @alexjbutcher. I'm not sure about the TV. That is
:58:08. > :58:13.universal. 60 or 70 years ago we would be talking about postage
:58:14. > :58:16.stamps. People flocked to universities say something to do
:58:17. > :58:22.with university would be a good one. And we do have the three-time world
:58:23. > :58:27.champion Formula One driver Lewis Hamilton! Let's not have aroused
:58:28. > :58:29.about who has the best Formula One drivers. They have better rally
:58:30. > :58:33.drivers. They do. And emoji suggestions
:58:34. > :58:35.on facebook included a sinking ship, There's just time before we go to
:58:36. > :58:58.find out the answer to our quiz. I was the Minister of
:58:59. > :59:02.have to quickly pick an answer. I would say Manchester City. No, it
:59:03. > :59:08.was the ear. Goodbye. Join us on BBC One for a truly epic
:59:09. > :59:20.night of entertainment,