:00:37. > :00:50.Dramatic events in Paris this morning as French police carry out
:00:51. > :00:53.a massive anti-terrorist operation following the attacks last Friday.
:00:54. > :00:55.Armed units moved in early this morning, resulting
:00:56. > :01:01.One female suspect reportedly blew herself up.
:01:02. > :01:10.Another man is also said to have been killed.
:01:11. > :01:14.The French government says the operation is now over.
:01:15. > :01:16.David Cameron promises a "comprehensive strategy"
:01:17. > :01:19.to deal with the threat posed by the so-called Islamic State.
:01:20. > :01:21.So will that mean an imminent vote on extending
:01:22. > :01:26.Jeremy Corbyn faces open revolt within the Labour Party over
:01:27. > :01:30.his stance on military action and dealing with the terrorist threat.
:01:31. > :01:40.Can the Labour leader reassert his authority at PMQs today?
:01:41. > :01:49.This is New York City. No one tells us what neighbourhood to live in,
:01:50. > :01:51.what team to root for or what Delhi to eat cat.
:01:52. > :01:54.And slick American campaign techniques are now de rigeur
:01:55. > :01:57.We speak to the American strategist who hopes to
:01:58. > :02:11.All that in the 90 minutes, and with us for the whole of the programme
:02:12. > :02:13.today, the Environment Minister, George Eustice, and the Shadow
:02:14. > :02:24.Let's start with the dramatic events in Paris this
:02:25. > :02:27.morning where armed police raided a flat in the suburb of Saint Denis
:02:28. > :02:31.in an operation linked to Friday's terrorist attacks.
:02:32. > :02:36.One female suspect blew herself up and another man was killed.
:02:37. > :02:39.Five police officers were hurt and at least five people were
:02:40. > :02:53.We can bring you some pictures of this now just as they come in. Saint
:02:54. > :02:57.Denis is in that part of Paris, you see it on the way in on the
:02:58. > :03:04.Eurostar, it is on the left. The National Stadium, the Stade de
:03:05. > :03:10.France is also in this part, where two suicide bombers blew themselves
:03:11. > :03:15.up on Friday night. These are not live pictures, but they are very
:03:16. > :03:21.recent. This operation was launched at about 4am local time, and
:03:22. > :03:28.involved over 100 police backed up by the army. The army now on the
:03:29. > :03:31.streets in Paris for the first time in living memory in a sense of being
:03:32. > :03:39.involved in anti-terrorist operations. If you have been to
:03:40. > :03:43.Paris recently, you see the police around the Eiffel Tower, government
:03:44. > :03:49.buildings, but the Army this morning involved in this anti-terrorist
:03:50. > :03:52.operation. The police paramilitaries took the force of this, and it looks
:03:53. > :03:57.like it was successful from the French police point of view. They
:03:58. > :04:02.were very anxious, although it was a siege situation, to catch and get at
:04:03. > :04:07.least one of the people they were after a live, because so many of
:04:08. > :04:11.those involved on Friday night's atrocity either killed themselves
:04:12. > :04:17.all were killed by the police as they were trying to take control
:04:18. > :04:21.again. But they have now got somebody, at least one, perhaps two
:04:22. > :04:25.people involved, who will now face interrogation from the French
:04:26. > :04:32.security services. These live pictures coming in from Saint Denis
:04:33. > :04:33.in Paris at what looks like the end of the anti-terrorist operation in
:04:34. > :04:39.that particular part of Harris. JoCo.
:04:40. > :04:43.That operation which had been going on all morning does look finished.
:04:44. > :04:47.We had reports that some of the officers were taking off their
:04:48. > :04:50.helmets, which looked as if they had got everybody they wanted to get.
:04:51. > :04:54.There are also reports this morning that have not been confirmed that
:04:55. > :05:04.the people holed up in that apartment were planning some sort of
:05:05. > :05:09.attack on La Defence, the districts to the West.
:05:10. > :05:13.Clearly a dangerous operation, with the police themselves suffering
:05:14. > :05:17.casualties, we don't think any fatalities. And a police dog was
:05:18. > :05:20.injured as well, we are told. The Prime Minister has promised to
:05:21. > :05:22.present a "comprehensive strategy" to deal
:05:23. > :05:25.with the so-called Islamic State. David Cameron told Parliament
:05:26. > :05:27.yesterday that he would respond personally to
:05:28. > :05:29.a sceptical report from the Commons Foreign Affairs Committee
:05:30. > :05:31.published earlier this month. Mr Cameron believes that
:05:32. > :05:33.the terrorist atrocities in Paris have strengthened the case
:05:34. > :05:35.for air strikes in Syria and reports today suggest he could seek a
:05:36. > :05:43.Parliamentary vote before Christmas. Though Downing Street this morning
:05:44. > :05:47.began to play that down a bit. But will he be able to
:05:48. > :05:49.win over sceptical MPs? Earlier this month the Foreign
:05:50. > :05:53.Affairs Select Committee urged David Cameron not to press ahead with
:05:54. > :05:56.a vote on UK air strikes against It said any benefits would be more
:05:57. > :06:01.than outweighed by the risks of "legal ambiguity, political chaos
:06:02. > :06:03.on the ground, military The committee urged the
:06:04. > :06:11.Prime Minister to focus instead on The UK is already taking part
:06:12. > :06:21.in air strikes against IS targets in Iraq, at the
:06:22. > :06:30.request of the Iraqi government. On Monday RAF Tornados attacked a
:06:31. > :06:33.group of more than 30 IS fighters who were preparing an attack
:06:34. > :06:35.on Kurdish forces near Sinjar. There have already been targeted UK
:06:36. > :06:39.drone strikes in Syria after British born jihadis Reyaad Khan and Ruhul
:06:40. > :06:42.Amin were killed in Raqqa in August. It was ruled lawful as an act
:06:43. > :06:53.of self-defence. But for David Cameron, extending to
:06:54. > :06:56.full air strikes is more tricky, In 2013 Parliament voted on
:06:57. > :06:59.whether to take military action The Government lost 282
:07:00. > :07:18.against to 272 in favour. Andrew. George Eustis, if the Prime
:07:19. > :07:23.Minister now thinks it is right to take the water Syria, why doesn't he
:07:24. > :07:28.get on with it? We are acting in Iraq at the moment, and big progress
:07:29. > :07:35.is being made. But the Prime Minister has always been clear that
:07:36. > :07:42.there will only be action in Syria if there is support for it.
:07:43. > :07:47.Why? There isn't a constitutional need for it. The Prime Minister said
:07:48. > :07:52.that we do need to have a clear strategy, a broad strategy that
:07:53. > :07:58.looks at counter-terrorism, and community cohesion at home. He is
:07:59. > :08:03.going to respond directly. So why haven't we got it? This has been a
:08:04. > :08:09.long time coming, we have seen this coming. There is no surprise, there
:08:10. > :08:13.is only the timing. We have known, even the downing of the Russian
:08:14. > :08:18.passenger jet over Sinai was a clear sign that Islamic State was
:08:19. > :08:24.operating and out of area. Terrorist capability. So why have we not yet
:08:25. > :08:29.had the Prime Minister's Hanson for dealing with it? The Prime Minister
:08:30. > :08:32.would have been able to get air strikes in Syria in the last
:08:33. > :08:38.parliament, but the Labour Party would support that. Some of your own
:08:39. > :08:46.side wouldn't. They wouldn't. Would you support it? I would. I would
:08:47. > :08:50.have supported intervention against Assad in 2013 we could have brought
:08:51. > :08:54.this civil war to an earlier conclusion. And I certainly support
:08:55. > :09:00.action in Syria now. You should be willing to go after Isil wherever
:09:01. > :09:03.they are. The Royal United services Institute, an independent think
:09:04. > :09:06.tank, has said that while the parliamentary manoeuvring
:09:07. > :09:13.continues, the UK's reputation as a reliable military partner is being
:09:14. > :09:18.undermined. It is right, isn't it? I would prefer it if we had voted to
:09:19. > :09:23.go into action in Syria at the end of the last Parliament. Why not do
:09:24. > :09:27.it and throw yourself, at some stage of labour... If you do it because
:09:28. > :09:32.the Government thinks it is the right thing to do, and Labour puts
:09:33. > :09:38.down a motion of no confidence, then you live or fall by the vote in the
:09:39. > :09:41.Commons. Do the right thing. I think it is right on matters of military
:09:42. > :09:44.intervention that we seek a Parliamentary consensus for it. The
:09:45. > :09:48.Prime Minister has always said that that was what we would do. Is it
:09:49. > :09:57.always true on every possible military action that Britain will
:09:58. > :10:01.take, that there needs to be a Parliamentary consensus? When you
:10:02. > :10:04.are talking about a sustained air campaign, then yes, he feels he
:10:05. > :10:08.should have parliamentary backing for that. The answer is not to
:10:09. > :10:13.sidestep Parliament, it is to persuade Parliament that this is the
:10:14. > :10:16.right thing to do. But he is not. Why is he taking so long to reply?
:10:17. > :10:23.The select committee report was iffy about extending the war. There were
:10:24. > :10:26.lots of arguments for not doing it as well as there are strong
:10:27. > :10:30.arguments were doing it. Why is the Prime Minister taking so long to
:10:31. > :10:34.reply? He said he's going to reply to it directly personally. The key
:10:35. > :10:38.thing they ask forward is to say that they needed a coherent wider
:10:39. > :10:42.strategy that included how we bring the civil war in Syria to an end.
:10:43. > :10:49.And when we get to get back? He says he is going to make that response
:10:50. > :10:53.himself. I understand there is some difficulty in answering these
:10:54. > :10:57.questions. What about this one. Do you think it would be right, given
:10:58. > :10:59.what we have seen unfold on the streets of Paris, and given that our
:11:00. > :11:03.own intelligence services believe it is only a matter of time before
:11:04. > :11:10.something almost as terrible or just as terrible happens on the streets
:11:11. > :11:15.of written, -- Britain, that this Government should continue to cut
:11:16. > :11:17.police numbers? You have seen this week the Government announced that
:11:18. > :11:22.is going to double the budget on dealing with cyber crime, an extra
:11:23. > :11:27.1900 personnel... That is not police numbers. No, but the
:11:28. > :11:30.counter-terrorism element of the police budget was protected in the
:11:31. > :11:35.last Parliament, and it will be protected again in this one. Except
:11:36. > :11:41.that there has been a clear-cut in the Home Office's budget, and the
:11:42. > :11:46.head of the London Met says that the cuts that are still to come, another
:11:47. > :11:51.5000 officers will have to go, from a 32,000 strong police force in the
:11:52. > :11:53.capital. We will have to wait until they get the spending review
:11:54. > :11:58.decisions to know exactly how much the police will be asked to save,
:11:59. > :12:03.and it would be over four years. Let me just give you the figures from
:12:04. > :12:12.the ISS. Public spending on police was cut by 14% in real terms between
:12:13. > :12:17.2010 and 2014 /15. And now it faces further cut at a time when we faced
:12:18. > :12:22.Robert Blake the biggest terrorist threat this country has ever faced,
:12:23. > :12:26.even bigger than the IRA now if Paris is anything to go by. Does
:12:27. > :12:30.that make sense to continue cutting? Within the budget, you
:12:31. > :12:38.would prioritise things like counter-terrorism. You prioritised
:12:39. > :12:41.overseas aid. The point is on the police that crime has gone down in
:12:42. > :12:47.the last five years. Policing is changing. That is a Europe-wide
:12:48. > :12:51.phenomenon, as you know. Policing is changing, there is more emphasis on
:12:52. > :12:54.things like cyber crime, and we have doubled the budget on that, and an
:12:55. > :13:02.extra ?2 billion going into special forces. Contrary to reports in the
:13:03. > :13:06.media, special forces are not patrolling the streets. How many
:13:07. > :13:12.armed police can France deployed within one hour of a terrorist
:13:13. > :13:20.attack? I don't know. 120,000. How many armed police could Britain
:13:21. > :13:28.deploy within an hour? An absolute maximum of 6000. 6000 versus
:13:29. > :13:32.120,000, and you thinking next week's, rancid review you would we
:13:33. > :13:44.seem to be in touch with this country if you continue to cut
:13:45. > :13:47.police budget? Within the budget, you prioritise where there is
:13:48. > :13:50.greatest to public safety. Thank you Ray much.
:13:51. > :13:54.A bitter row has broken out in the Labour Party over the renewal of
:13:55. > :13:57.Ken Livingstone, an opponent of the nuclear deterrent, has been put
:13:58. > :14:01.in joint charge of a review to help decide Labour's position on it.
:14:02. > :14:15.When a Shadow Defence Minister who's suffered with depression questioned
:14:16. > :14:18.his suitability for the role, Mr Livingstone's reported to have
:14:19. > :14:23.said he "might need some psychiatric help".
:14:24. > :14:33.Why has he been appointed? My understanding is that when the NEC
:14:34. > :14:38.met recently, they made a joint decision that they would move our
:14:39. > :14:42.work streams down into six key areas, and one of those is foreign
:14:43. > :14:48.affairs and defence. That will obviously include the Trident
:14:49. > :14:51.review. That work is being led by Maria Eagle, our Shadow Secretary of
:14:52. > :14:54.State for Defence, but she will co-chair that body with Ken
:14:55. > :14:59.Livingstone, who is a member of the NEC. That model as a model they have
:15:00. > :15:05.adopted across the six work streams. One member of the Shadow Cabinet,
:15:06. > :15:07.one member of the NEC. But you now have a Shadow Defence Secretary who
:15:08. > :15:11.is in favour of the renewal of Trident, and Ken Livingstone
:15:12. > :15:15.chairing this review alongside her who doesn't. Can you understand why
:15:16. > :15:19.she is reported to be furious? She didn't know, she wasn't told, she
:15:20. > :15:24.had a mention with Jeremy Corbyn last week and she wasn't told about
:15:25. > :15:27.the possibility of Ken Livingstone heading up this review. My
:15:28. > :15:32.understanding is that this decision was made by the National executive
:15:33. > :15:36.committee, not Jeremy Corbyn. Do you understand why she is furious and
:15:37. > :15:42.feels undermined? I haven't spoken to Maria, so I don't know if that is
:15:43. > :15:46.how she feels or not. This is a model that we have adopted across
:15:47. > :15:54.the board, and it is not new. We are democratic organisation, and we
:15:55. > :15:59.allow all sides to put their points of view. Tessa Jarl was the chair of
:16:00. > :16:08.Ken Livingstone's campaign when he ran to America London, to back --
:16:09. > :16:11.two people from different backgrounds working together. But if
:16:12. > :16:15.you're shadow secretary is reportedly thinking of resigning, it
:16:16. > :16:20.isn't working, is it? I can't tell you what she thinks, because I
:16:21. > :16:24.haven't seen her. Is Ken Livingstone suitable for that role if he says
:16:25. > :16:27.about one of his critics, Kevin Jones, Junior Shadow defence
:16:28. > :16:33.Minister, that he should see his GP, that he should see a
:16:34. > :16:38.psychiatrist? This is a man who had a battle with depression? Is that
:16:39. > :16:42.appropriate? If that is what is said, of course it isn't. In
:16:43. > :16:46.politics, nobody should be speaking to each other like that. We have had
:16:47. > :16:51.insults hurled across the House of Commons, and it is not the right way
:16:52. > :16:54.to talk about each other, but these are hugely serious issues, not just
:16:55. > :17:01.about Trident, but also because of the conversation we were just having
:17:02. > :17:05.because of the imminent threat posed by Isil, and it is right that the
:17:06. > :17:09.Labour Party is trying to engage in a democratic process engages
:17:10. > :17:14.different points of view. There are different views across this across
:17:15. > :17:19.the country. But this is about judgment and the judgment of the
:17:20. > :17:22.leader of the Labour Party. Her Majesty is my loyal opposition, and
:17:23. > :17:26.his judgment will be called into question if he has appointed someone
:17:27. > :17:27.like Ken Livingstone who has made comments like that about a fellow
:17:28. > :17:38.MP. The NEC made a joint decision. Is
:17:39. > :17:47.that appropriate for Ken Livingstone to say that? If he says about a
:17:48. > :17:51.Parliamentary colleague, although Ken Livingstone is not in
:17:52. > :17:56.Parliament, that somebody suffering from depression should go and see
:17:57. > :18:04.his GP. I cannot confirm he has said it. Should Ken Livingstone
:18:05. > :18:10.apologise? I do not think anybody in politics should be making comments
:18:11. > :18:14.like that. We ought to be having a proper debate about the way in which
:18:15. > :18:19.we keep people safe in this country. Is that the way to conduct
:18:20. > :18:24.the debate? It is also reported that he has called Maria eagle mad for
:18:25. > :18:29.believing that Trident is worth spending ?20 billion on? If it is
:18:30. > :18:32.going to be a grown-up debate is Ken Livingstone the man to lead that
:18:33. > :18:37.debate? I cannot comment on that because I have not seen it. Kevin
:18:38. > :18:45.Jones has actually responded and saying however ended tears. Labour
:18:46. > :18:48.MPs are all over social media as saying how outraged they are about
:18:49. > :18:53.these comments and if he has been appointed to this very important
:18:54. > :18:57.role, is that the sort of debate we can expect? Absolutely not. The sort
:18:58. > :19:00.of debate we ought to be having as we ought to be respectful to one
:19:01. > :19:06.another and concede there are different points of view. Should he
:19:07. > :19:11.go? My understanding is that is why these bodies have been constituted a
:19:12. > :19:15.this way so that different opinions are taken into account. Are you
:19:16. > :19:18.happy for Ken Livingstone to continue in that role? I am not
:19:19. > :19:24.going to comment having not seen anything that you have just read out
:19:25. > :19:28.to me. I do not think that is the right way to conduct politics
:19:29. > :19:32.either. I will look at what he said and take a view. Nobody should be
:19:33. > :19:37.saying to anybody in any political party that they need to seek
:19:38. > :19:43.psychiatric help and if that is what has been said of course he should
:19:44. > :19:47.apologise. Should Jeremy Corbyn's judgment be cold into question after
:19:48. > :19:51.making that decision without consulting his Shadow Defence
:19:52. > :19:55.Secretary? The national executive committee which is drawn from across
:19:56. > :20:00.the Labour Party... She did not even know. Was he right to accept the
:20:01. > :20:04.decision by the NEC for Ken Livingstone to run that review? We
:20:05. > :20:10.are a democratic party and decisions are made through the NEC which is
:20:11. > :20:15.our ruling body. In terms of the town which Jeremy Corbyn has said
:20:16. > :20:19.since he became leader, it has been respectful, kinder, straighter with
:20:20. > :20:25.people. None of that sounds very kind respectful. That is my point.
:20:26. > :20:30.This is watchable see from Jeremy Corbyn. That is how he expects us to
:20:31. > :20:33.conduct debate. There is no sense in which anybody should be hurling
:20:34. > :20:37.insults at anybody else and if that has happened we ought to take a
:20:38. > :20:45.strong line. How strong should that might be? Jeremy Corbyn said unity
:20:46. > :20:48.would be Labour's watchword. This looks the exact opposite. Unity
:20:49. > :20:53.should be our watchword but within that we ought to be having
:20:54. > :20:58.respectful and open debate about issues that are incredibly complex,
:20:59. > :21:03.whether it is Isil and the situation in Syria, responding to Paris,
:21:04. > :21:07.issues about police cuts or Trident, these are complex questions and it
:21:08. > :21:12.is right that we have a debate but we must do that respectfully. When
:21:13. > :21:17.there is a Trident debate next week they will not be an agreed
:21:18. > :21:21.position? No. We are having a review. There are different views
:21:22. > :21:28.across the Labour Party as across the country. That is the purpose of
:21:29. > :21:34.the view. -- review. One person wants Trident and one person does
:21:35. > :21:38.not. They might represent different views. At some stage there has to be
:21:39. > :21:43.settled view from the opposition. When? The review is ongoing for
:21:44. > :21:49.several months. We have announced the two co-chairman of the details
:21:50. > :21:53.will be set out quite quickly. Jeremy has set out his personal view
:21:54. > :21:57.but he has to persuade the rest of the party of that. We are a
:21:58. > :22:01.democratic member led organisation and will have that debate and come
:22:02. > :22:05.to consensus about the right way forward but it is right to ask the
:22:06. > :22:08.question in relation to Trident, should we be spending this much of
:22:09. > :22:16.our defence budget on keeping us they've when the threat we face
:22:17. > :22:21.comes from organisations like Isil? You disagree with the Shadow Defence
:22:22. > :22:25.Secretary? I have not come to a set of view. I want to have that
:22:26. > :22:30.conversation. I would much rather have a leader who is willing to
:22:31. > :22:34.listen to all points of view than a Prime Minister who has taken a
:22:35. > :22:43.stance and will not admit there are competing priorities. All 129
:22:44. > :22:52.fatalities from the terrorist attacks on Friday have been
:22:53. > :22:57.identified. Scores of nationalities involved than people of all
:22:58. > :23:05.backgrounds, ethnic persuasions and so on, in the atrocities, of the
:23:06. > :23:10.129. The Paris prosecutor has told journalists it is unclear whether
:23:11. > :23:15.the alleged organiser of the attacks has been picked up in that police
:23:16. > :23:18.raid. They are not clear whether they managed to get him.
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:24:53. > :25:12.Yes, Prime Minister's Questions is on its way.
:25:13. > :25:18.The first Prime Minister's Questions since the attacks in Paris. Probably
:25:19. > :25:23.more important today for Jeremy Corbyn. I doubt there will be much
:25:24. > :25:30.crowd sourcing of questions from Jeremy Corbyn today. The BBC's
:25:31. > :25:34.political editor is here. Starting with the government, lots of reports
:25:35. > :25:39.that David Cameron was moving towards a vote, that it looked as if
:25:40. > :25:45.he was going to take the plunge, get his ducks in a row, and I understand
:25:46. > :25:49.there has been a ring back. David Cameron will not put a vote to the
:25:50. > :25:52.House of Commons unless he is sure he can win it comfortably. This is
:25:53. > :25:57.not something the government wants to look like they have sneaked
:25:58. > :26:03.through. They might do not want to walk into the lobby is on the night
:26:04. > :26:07.of the potential vote that it is that so little going to happen. This
:26:08. > :26:13.is not going to be on a knife edge and if it seems like it is he will
:26:14. > :26:17.not do it. How does he tell? His whips can tell him how many Tories
:26:18. > :26:22.are going to vote for him and how many rebels he faces, they cannot
:26:23. > :26:27.tell him what the Labour Party is going to do. One of those theories
:26:28. > :26:31.doing the rounds is that the government may ask Labour MPs who
:26:32. > :26:35.are interested in voting for action, maybe as many as 50, to put
:26:36. > :26:39.something in writing, to give them something kind of guarantee or
:26:40. > :26:44.public statement that they will back the government. Do not underestimate
:26:45. > :26:51.how bruised ministers feel by what they see as Ed Miliband's betrayal
:26:52. > :26:54.on a very different vote, action in Syria in 2013. They will be looking
:26:55. > :26:58.for something that looks like a guarantee. Whether or not that
:26:59. > :27:03.mechanism of the public written statement comes as not a question
:27:04. > :27:07.that is yet settled but they are looking for solid things that they
:27:08. > :27:12.know they can take to the House and win comfortably. It looks like it
:27:13. > :27:21.might be by a slow and it will not happen -- if it does. To be sure he
:27:22. > :27:26.is dependent and it is a very difficult time because... To use the
:27:27. > :27:34.word chaos in the Labour Party would not be an exaggeration. Mr Jones is
:27:35. > :27:38.a shadow defence spokesman for the defence party and was attacked by
:27:39. > :27:46.Ken Livingstone who is heading up a review on defence policy and he has
:27:47. > :27:49.responded. People can have political differences but to use mental
:27:50. > :27:53.illness as a tool to attack somebody you disagree with on a political
:27:54. > :28:01.issue is disgraceful. Jeremy Corbyn has worked very hard alongside other
:28:02. > :28:06.members of Parliament to take the stigma away from mental illness and
:28:07. > :28:10.Ken Livingstone's comments sure we have a long way to go. His comments
:28:11. > :28:16.are in the dark ages frankly and that is where they should stay. The
:28:17. > :28:23.internal civil war continues. The war of words. Chris Leslie who was
:28:24. > :28:27.the former Shadow Chancellor has called on Ken Livingstone to resign
:28:28. > :28:31.from the defence review and possibly from Labour's ruling committee the
:28:32. > :28:37.national executive committee. What has happened in the last few days is
:28:38. > :28:40.very significant. We have always known there were big differences
:28:41. > :28:45.between the Parliamentary Labour Party and Jeremy Corbyn but what we
:28:46. > :28:48.have seen as those tensions smash up against one thing real. What
:28:49. > :28:52.happened in Paris and how Jeremy Corbyn has responded to it has
:28:53. > :28:57.caused a great deal of concern not just among those who could be
:28:58. > :29:02.dismissed as Blairite but amongst moderates in the Labour Party. For
:29:03. > :29:08.Jeremy Corbyn supporters the kind of things he has been saying is exactly
:29:09. > :29:12.why he won. He does not believe that violence is the answer to the
:29:13. > :29:15.problems we face in this country and he believes Western intervention is
:29:16. > :29:20.partly responsible for what has been happening. When the government wants
:29:21. > :29:25.military action you have the Labour Party having a really damaging fight
:29:26. > :29:31.amongst themselves. At a time when the Labour Party seems to be at
:29:32. > :29:34.sixes and sevens on key issues of national security there is no sense
:29:35. > :29:38.that Jeremy Corbyn is trying to reach out to the middle or the
:29:39. > :29:43.rights of his party. Appointing Ken Livingstone is the exact opposite.
:29:44. > :29:49.Indeed. For many Labour MPs the phrase that Kevin Jones uses, that
:29:50. > :29:54.it is something from the dark ages, that is what many people in the
:29:55. > :29:58.Labour Party remember, fights in the 1980s, and think that people
:29:59. > :30:03.involved in those are back and telling them what to do. This is a
:30:04. > :30:10.real clash of ideology. It is a real clash of the sort of street fighting
:30:11. > :30:17.politics. There is a battle. It is chaotic but it is a fight for the
:30:18. > :30:21.soul of who they really are and who they represent. In the last few days
:30:22. > :30:27.Jeremy Corbyn supporters repeatedly unjustifiably talk about the
:30:28. > :30:31.mandate, more and more MPs talking about the mandate that they got from
:30:32. > :30:38.voters that the general election, 9 million voters, seeing that it is
:30:39. > :30:44.different frame in terms of Jeremy Corbyn's mandate. Ken Livingstone's
:30:45. > :30:48.appointment comes after a number of appointments. Mr McDonald as the
:30:49. > :30:54.Shadow Chancellor. Even the unions were not keen on that. This policy
:30:55. > :31:03.adviser who described various Labour people as scumbags. Andrew Fletcher.
:31:04. > :31:11.Seamus Milne from The Guardian. Mr Livingstone in defence policy. The
:31:12. > :31:26.question will have to wait because we are going to the Commons.
:31:27. > :31:33.Mr Speaker, may I associate myself and the whole house with what the
:31:34. > :31:39.Government have said about the attacks in Paris. People in
:31:40. > :31:44.Blackpool were among those murdered on a Tunisian beach, and our tower
:31:45. > :31:49.was lit in red white and blue for those killed by terrorist in France.
:31:50. > :31:52.I raised an issue about neighbourhood policing and security
:31:53. > :31:55.being threatened by the scale of proposed cuts, and the Lancashire
:31:56. > :32:01.funding formula which has now been admitted to be flawed. Can I reflect
:32:02. > :32:04.him -- asking to reflect on the words, when facts change, change my
:32:05. > :32:09.mind, and when local intelligence can be crucial against, perhaps this
:32:10. > :32:14.isn't the time to jeopardise it with arbitrary Treasury cuts. I thank the
:32:15. > :32:19.honourable gentleman for what he says about Paris and the importance
:32:20. > :32:24.of the whole house coming together over this issue, and perhaps the
:32:25. > :32:27.house would like a brief update. One British and, Nick Alexander, was
:32:28. > :32:30.killed at the Bataclan Theatre. Three other British National Party
:32:31. > :32:37.now been released from hospital and returned to the UK. The Foreign
:32:38. > :32:42.Office and red cross of providing support for at least another 15
:32:43. > :32:46.nationals for trauma. We will be providing support for all of those
:32:47. > :32:49.affected by what happened. There has been news from France this morning
:32:50. > :32:54.in terms of terrorist arrests, and I can say more about that later on. On
:32:55. > :32:57.policing, what I would say to the honourable gentleman is that we have
:32:58. > :33:00.quite rightly in this Parliament protected counter-terrorism
:33:01. > :33:05.policing. We are going to protect that again in this Parliament. What
:33:06. > :33:09.we have done in terms of policing otherwise is we have seen an
:33:10. > :33:15.increase in neighbourhood officers over the course of the parliament,
:33:16. > :33:18.and a 31% cut in crime. Let me commend the police, not just
:33:19. > :33:21.counter-terrorism police but all police, for the work they do, and we
:33:22. > :33:30.will announce our proposals next week. Mr Speaker, as our hearts go
:33:31. > :33:36.out to the people of France at this time, will the Prime Minister agree
:33:37. > :33:41.with me that the first duty of Her Majesty is government must be to
:33:42. > :33:45.protect British citizens from harm? So will he take immediate action to
:33:46. > :33:51.secure our UK borders from those who threaten our nation, and on security
:33:52. > :33:59.grounds alone, restore complete sovereignty over our British borders
:34:00. > :34:01.from the European Union? I think my honourable friend raises a very
:34:02. > :34:06.important question, and I want to explain in answering a very
:34:07. > :34:12.important point, which is because the UK is not only Schengen Area, we
:34:13. > :34:19.already retain full control over who is entering our country, and we are
:34:20. > :34:24.able to check all entrants at the border, EU nationals and EEA
:34:25. > :34:27.nationals included. On the house might be interested to know that
:34:28. > :34:33.since 2010 we have refused entry to almost 6000 EU national, and many of
:34:34. > :34:37.these were stopped at our border controls in Calais. In terms of
:34:38. > :34:44.other people we have stopped, since 2010 we had denied entry to nearly
:34:45. > :34:48.19 -- 95,000 people, and one of the principal reasons for not letting
:34:49. > :34:52.people in is national security concerns. We have that situation
:34:53. > :34:55.already because we are not in the Schengen Area.
:34:56. > :35:07.THE SPEAKER: Mr Jeremy Corbyn. I want to start, Mr Speaker, by
:35:08. > :35:11.expressing the horror of all those on this side of the house at the
:35:12. > :35:17.events in Paris on Friday evening, and our concern you'd -- continued
:35:18. > :35:24.solidarity with all victims, whether they be in Paris, Beirut, Ankara,
:35:25. > :35:28.Damascus or anywhere in the world. We know that at least one British
:35:29. > :35:33.and has been killed, and many more injured. Many British people live
:35:34. > :35:38.and work in Paris, millions visit Paris and France every year. Can the
:35:39. > :35:42.Prime Minister continue what he was saying earlier in response to my
:35:43. > :35:46.friend the member from Blackpool in terms of giving support to the
:35:47. > :35:51.British affected by the attacks, and what the Government's latest advices
:35:52. > :35:53.on travelling to France and our need to show the best possible normality
:35:54. > :35:59.in relations with the French people? I thank the Leader of the
:36:00. > :36:02.Opposition for his remarks and I say what a pleasure it was to be with
:36:03. > :36:06.him last night at the England-France football match, where I thought
:36:07. > :36:13.there was a tremendous display of solidarity. I'm sure they can say in
:36:14. > :36:21.the Marseille is louder in the Stade de France, but I was proud to be
:36:22. > :36:24.there. There is never any justification for terrorism, and we
:36:25. > :36:29.can all be clear about that at all times. He asked specifically what we
:36:30. > :36:33.could do more to help British people caught up in his problems. Peter
:36:34. > :36:37.Ricketts, our ambassador in France, is doing a brilliant job, and I'm
:36:38. > :36:42.keeping my eye closely on the consular situation. In terms of
:36:43. > :36:45.travel advice, it is all on the Foreign Office website, but I agree
:36:46. > :36:49.with him, the most important thing is for people to carry on with their
:36:50. > :36:54.lives. It is important that the Eurostar continues to function,
:36:55. > :36:59.flights continue to go, people continue to travel to enjoy London
:37:00. > :37:03.and Paris and go about our business. Yes we need enhanced security, and
:37:04. > :37:07.that is happening with the way that the police are acting here in the UK
:37:08. > :37:13.and elsewhere, but one of the ways to defeat terrorism is to show them
:37:14. > :37:16.that we will not be cowed. We know that sadly after such atrocities as
:37:17. > :37:23.we have seen, intolerance often increases. Islamophobia,
:37:24. > :37:26.anti-Semitism, racism. Will the Prime Minister agree with me that it
:37:27. > :37:30.is vital that everyone in public life, particularly politicians, are
:37:31. > :37:33.careful about how we discuss these issues, and will he also join with
:37:34. > :37:36.me in making it very clear that the dreadful events of terrorism in
:37:37. > :37:41.Paris have nothing in common whatsoever with the 2 million
:37:42. > :37:45.British Muslims in this country who are as appalled as anyone else by
:37:46. > :37:49.the events in Paris last Friday? I will happily join the right
:37:50. > :37:55.honourable gentleman in that. Some of the strongest and best statements
:37:56. > :37:58.have been made by a whole series of magician Muslims coming together to
:37:59. > :38:03.say that these attacks are in no way carried out in their name. But I do
:38:04. > :38:07.think it raises an important issue, which cannot be said often enough,
:38:08. > :38:13.that these watches of Isil are no reflection of the true religion of
:38:14. > :38:16.Islam, which is a religion of peace. But at the same time, we do have to
:38:17. > :38:22.recognise that whether these terrorists are in Tunisia or Egypt
:38:23. > :38:26.or Paris or London they spout the same bile that they claim comes from
:38:27. > :38:29.the religion of Islam, and that is why we have to take apart what they
:38:30. > :38:34.say and prove that that is not the case. It is not good enough to say
:38:35. > :38:38.there is no connection between these terrorist and Islam, they are making
:38:39. > :38:41.a connection. We need to prove that it is not right, and the support of
:38:42. > :38:48.Muslim scholars is absolutely vital and I commend them for their work.
:38:49. > :38:53.Surely a crucial way to help defeat Isil is to cut off its funding, its
:38:54. > :38:58.supply of arms and its trade. Can I press the Prime Minister to ensure
:38:59. > :39:02.that our allies in the region and all countries in the region are
:39:03. > :39:05.doing all they can to clamp down on individuals and institutions in
:39:06. > :39:09.their countries who are providing Isil with vital infrastructure, and
:39:10. > :39:11.will he, through the European Union and other forums if necessary,
:39:12. > :39:17.consider sanctions against those banks and companies and if necessary
:39:18. > :39:23.countries who turn a blind eye to financial dealings with Isil which
:39:24. > :39:27.assist them in their work? We do play a leading role, as I said
:39:28. > :39:31.yesterday, in making sure that the supply of money and weapons and
:39:32. > :39:34.support is cut off, but I think we should be clear about where Isil got
:39:35. > :39:41.their money from originally. What happened was that because we didn't
:39:42. > :39:44.have a Government in Iraq that effectively represented all of its
:39:45. > :39:49.people, and because in Syria you have a leader who is butchering his
:39:50. > :39:54.own people, Isil was able to get hold of oil, get hold of weapons,
:39:55. > :39:57.get hold of territory, get hold of banks, and it is that that they have
:39:58. > :40:02.been able to use in order to fund their hatred and violence, and so we
:40:03. > :40:07.cannot dodge for ever the question of how to degrade and destroy Isil
:40:08. > :40:10.both in Iraq and in Syria, and that is why I will be setting out my
:40:11. > :40:16.response to the foreign affairs select committee. So yes, go after
:40:17. > :40:20.the money, the banks, cut off their supplies, but don't make that a
:40:21. > :40:25.substitute for the action that is required to beat these people where
:40:26. > :40:28.they are. Next week the Chancellor will
:40:29. > :40:32.present his Autumn Statement stood a house. Can the prime and is to
:40:33. > :40:36.clarify something about the source of the necessary extra funding to be
:40:37. > :40:40.set out for the security services which we support. Will it come at
:40:41. > :40:45.the expense of other areas, either within the Home Office budget or a
:40:46. > :40:48.win in other areas of public spending, or from new funding? Does
:40:49. > :40:55.he want to go on longer so that the Chancellor can explain the answer to
:40:56. > :40:59.him? We will set out in full our decisions next week, but we have
:41:00. > :41:04.already said that we will be funding an increase in the security services
:41:05. > :41:08.of 1900 personnel, safeguarding the counterterrorism budget, and we will
:41:09. > :41:12.be seeing an increase in terms of aviation security. All of this is
:41:13. > :41:16.part of an overall spending settlement. At the same time as
:41:17. > :41:20.funding our security, increasing our defence spending, we have to make
:41:21. > :41:27.decisions that eradicate our budget deficit and keep our economy strong.
:41:28. > :41:31.We don't do that just for the common -- current generation, we do it for
:41:32. > :41:34.our children and grandchildren, because none of these things, not
:41:35. > :41:39.even strong defence, is possible without a strong economy. I am not
:41:40. > :41:45.sure where the money is coming from following the Prime Minister's
:41:46. > :41:48.answer, but no doubt it will come. London has been targeted by
:41:49. > :41:51.terrorists before, and this weekend was Mike events in Paris have
:41:52. > :41:57.focused attention not just on London but also other cities throughout the
:41:58. > :42:00.whole of Britain. Policing plays a vital role in community cohesion,
:42:01. > :42:04.gathering intelligence of those who may be about to be a risk to all of
:42:05. > :42:11.us. But this is surely undermined if we cut the number of police officers
:42:12. > :42:14.by 5000. Does the Prime Minister agree with the commission of the
:42:15. > :42:18.Metropolitan Police, Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, who said, I quote, I
:42:19. > :42:22.genuinely worry about safety of London if the cuts go through on
:42:23. > :42:25.this scale? The right honourable gentleman asks where the money comes
:42:26. > :42:33.from. We on this side of the house never forget that every penny we
:42:34. > :42:38.spend comes from taxpayers. Borrowed money is simply taxes that are
:42:39. > :42:41.deferred, and that is why it is so important to eradicate our deficit
:42:42. > :42:45.at the same time as making sure we find our security intelligence
:42:46. > :42:50.services and police properly. We are protecting the counterterrorism
:42:51. > :42:53.budget. We see a 3800 increasing neighbourhood police officers in the
:42:54. > :43:00.last parliament at the same time as a 31% increase in -- 31% cut in
:43:01. > :43:05.crime. The Shadow Home Secretary has said that a 10% efficiency target
:43:06. > :43:08.for the police is doable. Is the Leader of the Opposition saying that
:43:09. > :43:11.he doesn't agree with his Shadow Home Secretary? There does seem to
:43:12. > :43:17.be a little bit of disagreement on the opposition front bench today.
:43:18. > :43:23.I have a question from a taxpayer, actually. And his name is John, and
:43:24. > :43:31.he says, at a time... LAUGHTER
:43:32. > :43:42.SHOUTING. At a time when we are facing the
:43:43. > :43:46.greatest threat from terrorism ever faced, police numbers and resources
:43:47. > :43:49.are cut. Demands on the police have been increasing steadily as budgets
:43:50. > :43:54.are slashed, increasing stress on officers. Couple that with
:43:55. > :43:57.detrimental changes to their pay, terms, conditions and pensions, it
:43:58. > :44:01.is no wonder that morale in the police force is so poor, one in
:44:02. > :44:07.three are considering leaving the force. Will he be able to tell us
:44:08. > :44:10.whether or not this community policing and other police budgets
:44:11. > :44:15.are protected or not in next week's Autumn Statement?
:44:16. > :44:22.Let me tell him again, neighbourhood policing numbers have gone up by
:44:23. > :44:26.3800. In the capital city, we have seen a 500% increase in
:44:27. > :44:29.neighbourhood policing. We have also, because we have cut
:44:30. > :44:34.bureaucracy, but the equivalent of an extra 2000 police on the streets.
:44:35. > :44:36.But I will tell the Leader of the Opposition something. As well as
:44:37. > :44:43.wanting resources, the police want the appropriate powers. And hasn't
:44:44. > :44:46.come to something when the leader of Her Majesty Osman opposition thinks
:44:47. > :44:46.that the police when fronted by a Kalashnikov waving terrorist isn't
:44:47. > :45:01.sure what the reaction should be! Mr Speaker, the attacks on Paris
:45:02. > :45:06.were quite clearly an attack on all of us. Does the Prime Minister agree
:45:07. > :45:12.that our resolve must be unbreakable? We should hunt down
:45:13. > :45:17.Isil wherever it is operating, wherever it is planning, wherever it
:45:18. > :45:21.is plotting, and if that means shoot to kill, then so be it, and if that
:45:22. > :45:28.means action in Syria, then so be it. I think my Hywel Poole friend is
:45:29. > :45:33.right. What I have said is that in order to respond to this very severe
:45:34. > :45:36.threat that we face, we need focus on counterterrorism here in the
:45:37. > :45:39.United Kingdom giving our intelligence agencies the laws they
:45:40. > :45:44.need, giving our police the powers they need, and making sure we are
:45:45. > :45:47.vigilant. We need counter extremism as we were discussing earlier, the
:45:48. > :45:49.importance of stopping the poisoning of these young minds, not least
:45:50. > :45:55.through these radical preachers on the Internet. But we also need to
:45:56. > :45:59.stop the problems at their source. We know where much of this problem
:46:00. > :46:07.is coming from. It is Isil, not just in Iraq, but in Syria. What I said
:46:08. > :46:09.to the house yesterday is I will prepare a detailed report to
:46:10. > :46:12.demonstrate that we do have a clear strategy of bringing in the
:46:13. > :46:16.neighbourhood powers, bringing in the regional powers, building a
:46:17. > :46:19.future for these countries and stability in the least, but I
:46:20. > :46:26.believe part of that is taking action against Isil wherever it is.
:46:27. > :46:33.In the wake of terrorist outrages and the ongoing civil war in Syria
:46:34. > :46:37.it is very welcome that there is significant diplomatic progress in
:46:38. > :46:42.trying to find a solution to the Syrian crisis. The UK joined the
:46:43. > :46:47.United States and France and Russia and Iran at talks in Vienna at the
:46:48. > :46:51.weekend and all signed a communique committing progress through the
:46:52. > :46:55.United Nations. Will he confirm that he will support a UN Security
:46:56. > :47:01.Council resolution on this before seeking to intervene Mellitah rally
:47:02. > :47:07.in Syria? I am grateful for asking this question. Russia has different
:47:08. > :47:14.aims to ours and have obediently threatened to veto any such
:47:15. > :47:18.resolution. -- repeatedly. It is always preferential to have the full
:47:19. > :47:23.backing of the United Nations Security Council but what matters
:47:24. > :47:27.most of all is that any action we would take would both be legal and
:47:28. > :47:34.would help protect our country and our people right here. You cannot
:47:35. > :47:45.outsource to a Russian veto the decisions we need to debar country
:47:46. > :47:48.safe. The first survey of UK public opinion on military intervention
:47:49. > :47:54.since the Paris attacks has shown 52% believe that the UK should
:47:55. > :47:59.engage with all countries to coordinate an appropriate response
:48:00. > :48:07.Mellitah Relay or otherwise backed by United Nations resolution and
:48:08. > :48:11.only 15% believe the UK should independently launch our strikes.
:48:12. > :48:15.Will he commit to giving a commitment to secure a UN Security
:48:16. > :48:24.Council resolution, which the UK and Russia agreed to? I could not be
:48:25. > :48:28.clearer. Of course it is or was preferential in whatever action you
:48:29. > :48:37.are taking, whether lifting people out of the Mediterranean or taking
:48:38. > :48:43.action in the Middle East against Isil, it is always preferential to
:48:44. > :48:48.have a you, United Nations Security Council resolution but is they are
:48:49. > :48:52.threatened with veto again and again my job is not to read an opinion
:48:53. > :49:10.poll but to do the right thing to debar country safe. -- keep our. The
:49:11. > :49:14.French armed police, who stormed the Bataclan and killed those vile
:49:15. > :49:19.murderous scum are heroes and so are the British armed forces who protect
:49:20. > :49:22.our public spaces and people. Will the Prime Minister sent a note of
:49:23. > :49:27.unequivocal support to those officers on patrol and ensure that
:49:28. > :49:34.in the review next week they have the resources they need to keep us
:49:35. > :49:39.safe? I absolutely agree. We ask the police every day to take risks on
:49:40. > :49:42.our behalf and let me thank the police who policed so effectively
:49:43. > :49:47.the game at Wembley last night. In terms of the French police the House
:49:48. > :49:55.would welcome an update. We have seen the news of an operation in
:49:56. > :50:01.Paris, two suspects have died, seven arrests made, this operation has
:50:02. > :50:06.finished. We should all bravery of the French police handling with what
:50:07. > :50:10.is a very challenging situation. I. I hope that can be consensus right
:50:11. > :50:14.across the House. If we are confronted with a situation like
:50:15. > :50:19.this the British police should not be in any doubt. If you have a
:50:20. > :50:27.terrorist who is threatening to kill people you can and must use force.
:50:28. > :50:30.-- lethal force. President Obama said I have emphasised the
:50:31. > :50:35.importance of tax credits to help working families afford childcare
:50:36. > :50:38.and keep families in the workplace. Does he agree with the importance
:50:39. > :50:43.the president of the United States has attached to tax credits? What is
:50:44. > :50:48.important is that we do the best we can to help low-paid people and that
:50:49. > :50:52.is why we are taking people out of income tax. 3 million of the lowest
:50:53. > :50:58.paid taken out of income tax since I became Prime Minister. An ?11,000
:50:59. > :51:03.threshold before B will have to start paying tax at all. Helping
:51:04. > :51:08.working families with childcare, helping a national Living Wage
:51:09. > :51:11.starting next year, something I suspect President Obama would love
:51:12. > :51:20.to introduce in the United States. We are doing it here. Integrating
:51:21. > :51:24.health and social care would be a great prize for devolved cities and
:51:25. > :51:29.regions. Without effective democratic and clinical overstate
:51:30. > :51:32.things can go badly wrong. Already in Manchester a major hospital
:51:33. > :51:39.reorganisation is waiting judicial review. Can I ask him to ensure that
:51:40. > :51:44.proper safeguards are in place so the local authorities retain a last
:51:45. > :51:50.resort to refer NHS changes or independent clinical reviews? I will
:51:51. > :51:54.look carefully at what he says. This goes to a larger point which is we
:51:55. > :52:02.are currently changing the way our country is run. These big devolution
:52:03. > :52:07.deals in Greater Manchester and Liverpool and the West Midlands mean
:52:08. > :52:12.we are going to have powerful Metro wheres who are accountable to local
:52:13. > :52:18.people for their decisions they made, which as I direct form of
:52:19. > :52:21.accountability and we can be confident of devolving health and
:52:22. > :52:28.social care to those authorities. Our country has been too centralised
:52:29. > :52:31.for too long. Our northern cities will benefit from these massive
:52:32. > :52:35.devolution deals but if we devolved the power and the money we have to
:52:36. > :52:41.devolve the trust and the accountability as well. Against the
:52:42. > :52:46.backdrop of a tidal wave of local job losses, the Teesside collective
:52:47. > :52:50.industrial carbon capture is the very real potential to secure a
:52:51. > :52:55.major StepChange in our industrial renaissance. Ahead of the Paris
:52:56. > :52:59.conference will he meet with me and the industrial leaders driving this
:53:00. > :53:05.project so we can secure these immense climate change games with
:53:06. > :53:09.the UK leading this industrial revolution and make this initiative
:53:10. > :53:13.a reality for Teesside and the UK? I know how important it is that we all
:53:14. > :53:17.work on behalf of Teesside not least because of the difficulties that
:53:18. > :53:21.have been in Redcar and that is why we have the task force and that is
:53:22. > :53:25.why the additional resources are going in. I am happy to look at the
:53:26. > :53:30.project he docs about. It may be best for him to meet with the Energy
:53:31. > :53:40.and Climate Change Secretary. We have to make decisions about all of
:53:41. > :53:43.these technologies. In my constituency of North Warwickshire
:53:44. > :53:48.manufacturing is thriving thanks to innovative small businesses such as
:53:49. > :53:52.one group who are creating high-quality local jobs and
:53:53. > :53:56.apprenticeships in engineering. Given the challenges these types of
:53:57. > :54:00.company fees in finding traditional funding support what assurances can
:54:01. > :54:04.you give that this Conservative government understands the
:54:05. > :54:07.importance of our innovators and will continue to provide initiatives
:54:08. > :54:13.such as the annual investment fund to ensure British businesses
:54:14. > :54:16.continue to lead the way? We want to rebalance the British economy, not
:54:17. > :54:22.just in terms of the devolution of power, but also CE is thriving
:54:23. > :54:26.manufacturing sector. Manufacturers want to see continued investment
:54:27. > :54:32.into the captive bolt centres that do a good job of making sure
:54:33. > :54:38.technology taken up, strong support for the apprenticeship programme,
:54:39. > :54:43.and they also want to make the annual investment allowance
:54:44. > :54:46.permanent and it will be at ?200,000 throughout this parliament so that
:54:47. > :54:50.manufacturing companies and others who want to make investments now
:54:51. > :54:56.they can do so in a way that will be profitable. My niece is safe and
:54:57. > :55:01.well having been caught up in the aftermath of the Paris attacks and
:55:02. > :55:06.she wants to know as a student for three years in Paris whether this
:55:07. > :55:12.country is going to be safe on her return? She is worried about the
:55:13. > :55:15.cuts to the ambulance, the police under services in this country and
:55:16. > :55:24.whether we will be prepared with those cuts to be as prepared as
:55:25. > :55:28.those in Paris. I want to know why we are not joining with the Russians
:55:29. > :55:34.to get a UN mandate to remove Isis from Syria. I am glad to year that
:55:35. > :55:39.his niece is safe after these terrible attacks. To answer her
:55:40. > :55:44.question, we are doing everything we can to make sure this country is
:55:45. > :55:49.safe. After the intelligence we had some years ago about the potential
:55:50. > :55:53.of a marauding firearms attack at multiple locations and perhaps the
:55:54. > :55:58.capital city or elsewhere we have run exercises, done research, looked
:55:59. > :56:03.at everything we can, to make sure that ambulances and crews will be
:56:04. > :56:06.able to go into a hot zone and recover casualties, that we have the
:56:07. > :56:13.right number of armed police in the different parts of our country, that
:56:14. > :56:17.we can respond including using other forces, and we have looked at what
:56:18. > :56:21.the French have done in terms of surging troops onto the street and
:56:22. > :56:26.we have made sure that can happen here. There's never a 100% guarantee
:56:27. > :56:34.of safety but we are doing everything possibly can. I warmly
:56:35. > :56:38.congratulate the Prime Minister on new funding that has been announced
:56:39. > :56:43.for special forces equipment, but may I draw his attention to the
:56:44. > :56:47.plight of David and Maria Summers who have struggled to obtain a
:56:48. > :56:52.permanent residency for Maria despite being married for 45 years?
:56:53. > :56:58.Did he encourage officials to look again at this case? I am happy to
:56:59. > :57:01.look again at this case but it gives me the opportunity given the
:57:02. > :57:04.constituency he represents to say something about a group of people
:57:05. > :57:09.that we see very little about because we do not comment on their
:57:10. > :57:14.amazing work, but Hereford is an important part of the nation's
:57:15. > :57:17.security domestic league and overseas. Very brave people work
:57:18. > :57:22.there and we should give them credit. My constituent was a soldier
:57:23. > :57:28.in Iraq and Afghanistan and is currently training to be a doctor in
:57:29. > :57:32.London. He told me that with the proposed in your doctors contracts
:57:33. > :57:39.morale in the NHS is law than at any other point during his time on the
:57:40. > :57:48.front line. Does he agree that Loma rile amongst our junior doctors is a
:57:49. > :57:54.threat to patient safety? -- low morale. Please look very carefully
:57:55. > :58:01.at what the government is offering before you decide to go one strike
:58:02. > :58:05.because what is on offer is not an increase in hours, for many doctors
:58:06. > :58:11.it will mean life long hours, it is not a cut in the pay bill for junior
:58:12. > :58:15.doctors, it is an 11% basic pay increase. It will mean a better
:58:16. > :58:21.rostering of doctors including at weekends with more support for
:58:22. > :58:25.consultants. Go on the Department of Health website, look at the
:58:26. > :58:29.calculator and see how you will be affected because we have given a
:58:30. > :58:34.guarantee that anyone working legal hours will not be worse off under
:58:35. > :58:41.this contract. This is good for the NHS, good for doctors, patients,
:58:42. > :58:48.good for patients and I hope the BMA will call off their damaging strike.
:58:49. > :58:52.Fundamental to the success of the Good Friday Agreement was the spirit
:58:53. > :58:56.of peace and reconciliation that saw dozens or hundreds of convicted
:58:57. > :59:01.terrorist released from prison. Many had been found guilty of murder. Yet
:59:02. > :59:04.in the last week we hear the alarming news of a 66-year-old
:59:05. > :59:10.former paratrooper being arrested in connection with events that took
:59:11. > :59:14.place 43 years ago. In a week we are all having to once again contemplate
:59:15. > :59:19.sending our young men and women into harm's way with our security
:59:20. > :59:26.services on high alert, what message does this send to our armed forces
:59:27. > :59:30.and security services? I understand his concern that the feeling that
:59:31. > :59:33.many will have on seeing this news but the truth is about our country
:59:34. > :59:37.is one of the most important things about it is the government does not
:59:38. > :59:42.decide who is prosecuted and who is not. We have the rule of law,
:59:43. > :59:46.independent prosecuting authorities. This is something people across the
:59:47. > :59:51.world pride out for and we have here and we have to support them even
:59:52. > :59:57.when they take decisions that sometimes we want attention.
:59:58. > :00:00.Yesterday the principal parties in Northern Ireland came together and
:00:01. > :00:04.agreed a deal to make sure that the devolved institutions and continue
:00:05. > :00:08.to work. That deal involved people who have lost loved ones to
:00:09. > :00:12.terrorism, who have been opposed to each other all of their lives,
:00:13. > :00:15.sitting down and working together to try to deliver good government for
:00:16. > :00:22.this part of the United Kingdom and that is what we should look to to
:00:23. > :00:28.the future. The decision last week by HMRC to close their offices in
:00:29. > :00:36.Bradford will mean the loss of over 2000 high school high wage jobs, 1.2
:00:37. > :00:41.million in business rates and almost 12 million of the district's retail
:00:42. > :00:46.step goal spending which will have a devastating impact on Bradford. And
:00:47. > :00:52.you give me assurances that HMRC will meet with Bradford MPs to
:00:53. > :00:58.consider the clear economic and social case for keeping those
:00:59. > :01:02.offices in Bradford open? I am happy to ask the financial secretary to
:01:03. > :01:08.meet with the local MPs. We will make sure that Jobcentre plus and
:01:09. > :01:13.all of the supporters there for people who potentially are their
:01:14. > :01:20.jobs. In Bradford, the claimant count is down by 26% in the last
:01:21. > :01:24.year so jobs are available. It is a difficult and important point I am
:01:25. > :01:29.going to make, everyone in this House wants to see HMRC raise more
:01:30. > :01:33.money and make sure that people and companies do not avoid their taxes
:01:34. > :01:38.and that means reform and it means to make sure that HMRC is even more
:01:39. > :01:47.effective in raising the taxes on which our public services depend.
:01:48. > :01:50.Acknowledging that sport can bring a nation together and nations
:01:51. > :01:56.together, as demonstrated at Wembley last night, which he ensure that in
:01:57. > :02:00.addition to the welcome extra investment in the police and
:02:01. > :02:04.security services, investment in sports such as cricket will be
:02:05. > :02:08.maintained because they are a tool to help us face longer term
:02:09. > :02:13.challenges in integrating communities? I am sure over the next
:02:14. > :02:17.week the spending requests will quicken as we get closer to the
:02:18. > :02:23.spending review. It is important we have put in place the school sport
:02:24. > :02:28.premium for primary schools and it is making a real difference. There
:02:29. > :02:31.is a role for the sporting bodies to play. Many receive large amounts of
:02:32. > :02:36.money from the television contracts and the more of them that the more
:02:37. > :02:40.of them that can use that to ensure we are bringing on the young stars
:02:41. > :02:49.of tomorrow, that is absolutely vital. As the new leader of the
:02:50. > :03:02.anti-austerity movement in Oxfordshire, can he tell us how his
:03:03. > :03:06.campaign is going? What I said to my local council is what I say to every
:03:07. > :03:13.council, which is you have to get more for less, not less for more. On
:03:14. > :03:18.this side of the House we want to make sure that every penny that is
:03:19. > :03:21.raised in council tax is well spent and if his council would like to
:03:22. > :03:34.come in and get the same advice I will gladly oblige. At a time when
:03:35. > :03:40.he saw rightly emphasises the need for our solidarity with France, and
:03:41. > :03:45.I asked if he can see what he can do to ensure that the Franco British
:03:46. > :03:49.Council set up over 40 years ago to promote civil society partnership
:03:50. > :03:54.can continue to do its important work in fields as diverse as defence
:03:55. > :03:57.and community cohesion? Without a very small amount of funding from
:03:58. > :04:03.both governments it will not be able to do that. I am happy to look at
:04:04. > :04:07.that proposal. France and Britain have a lot to learn from each other
:04:08. > :04:10.and we should enter into these discussions in that spirit. We have
:04:11. > :04:16.a lot to learn about integrating people into our country, about how
:04:17. > :04:19.we have effective counter-terrorism policing, about how to share
:04:20. > :04:25.intelligence, and I am committed to making sure we burst you all of
:04:26. > :04:32.those things with France. Wigan council has had a cut in funding
:04:33. > :04:37.over the last five years and lost a third of its staff. Does he advise I
:04:38. > :04:42.should write to the leader of the council regarding the reduction or
:04:43. > :04:48.should I place the blame firmly where it belongs, with his
:04:49. > :04:53.government? If he is looking for someone to blame she might want to
:04:54. > :04:56.blame the Labour Party which left the country with the biggest budget
:04:57. > :05:03.deficit anywhere in the Western world. The advice I would give her
:05:04. > :05:07.about her local council is to look at its overall spending power, the
:05:08. > :05:11.combination of business rates, council tax and Grant and ask what
:05:12. > :05:21.money they have got to provide local services.
:05:22. > :05:27.Prime Minister's Questions predictably dominated by events in
:05:28. > :05:31.Paris. President Hollande of France was also giving a press conference,
:05:32. > :05:38.and he says France is at war with Islamic State. He wants a large
:05:39. > :05:42.coalition, his words, working against IS militants who threaten
:05:43. > :05:50.the whole world and commit massacres in the Middle East. Hollande said,
:05:51. > :05:55.we are at war, and a French aircraft carrier is today leaving the French
:05:56. > :05:59.Mediterranean naval port to head for the Middle East region to help
:06:00. > :06:07.Frenchmen literary operations in the Syrian area. -- French military
:06:08. > :06:15.operations. Interestingly, it will be accompanied by a British
:06:16. > :06:24.destroyer which will provide air strike cover for the ship Charles de
:06:25. > :06:33.Gaulle. HMS destroyer will be accompanying it to the region. That
:06:34. > :06:39.second to last question there about Anglo-French Corporation, that will
:06:40. > :06:43.be some of that in action. Ed Buxton says the exchanges between
:06:44. > :06:45.the two leaders began with the House of Commons at its best,
:06:46. > :06:49.statesman-like questions and answers, then it turned, and both
:06:50. > :06:52.leaders let themselves down by playing politics with national
:06:53. > :06:56.security. All wind says, I worry greatly for
:06:57. > :06:58.the Labour Party, it is becoming increasingly evident that there is
:06:59. > :07:03.no alternative to the conservative Government. Gareth says, please
:07:04. > :07:08.challenge the Prime Minister's answer about there being 3800 more
:07:09. > :07:13.neighbourhood police. This is at best wrong, at worst a lie. I am a
:07:14. > :07:16.neighbourhood police officer, and there has been no increase, in fact
:07:17. > :07:21.it is the opposite. Bill Waterman on the same theme, David Cameron is
:07:22. > :07:26.away with the fairies regarding neighbourhood policing. They are
:07:27. > :07:30.calling other offices neighbourhood officers, but they are not walking
:07:31. > :07:34.the streets. Going back to the question I was
:07:35. > :07:39.coming to before PMQs, but before I do, can you give me your overall
:07:40. > :07:43.impression? Yesterday the Prime Minister told the House of Commons
:07:44. > :07:47.he wants to make a case for military action, the most serious they had
:07:48. > :07:51.Prime Minister can do, and Jeremy Corbyn chose not to ask the Prime
:07:52. > :07:54.Minister question on that. It is difficult territory for him, and the
:07:55. > :07:57.Prime Minister gave a full statement yesterday saying what his treasured
:07:58. > :08:01.you would be, but this is one of the most significant thing is a
:08:02. > :08:04.Government can say it wants to do, and the opposition leader due to the
:08:05. > :08:10.strange times we are in chose not to go on that particular question, it
:08:11. > :08:12.was left instead to the leader of the third biggest party, Angus
:08:13. > :08:17.Robertson, the SNP leader at Westminster, to put that question
:08:18. > :08:20.twice about whether or not the government would seek a mandate from
:08:21. > :08:23.the United Nations, and David Cameron said twice he did not
:08:24. > :08:28.believe that he would have to go to the UN. He said it was ideal and
:08:29. > :08:32.preferable, but he didn't say he would do it.
:08:33. > :08:36.We were talking about the kind of appointments Jeremy Corbyn has made,
:08:37. > :08:40.and we went through the list. It has culminated in Ken Livingstone being
:08:41. > :08:45.in charge of the defence review along with the shadow defence
:08:46. > :08:48.spokeswoman. What I was going to ask is, when you look at how provocative
:08:49. > :08:52.some of these appointments are to the centre and right of the Labour
:08:53. > :08:56.Party, is he trying to provoke an early leadership challenge so he get
:08:57. > :08:59.it over with? I asked a member of the Shadow Labour team this morning
:09:00. > :09:03.if they thought that he was trying to force the more southerly to
:09:04. > :09:09.resign. He said, I don't know about that, but suggested that sometimes
:09:10. > :09:12.it feels that way. There is a spectrum of paranoia at one end,
:09:13. > :09:17.saying everything that Jeremy Corbyn is doing is trying to provoke an
:09:18. > :09:24.enormous bust up, a mass exodus of people from the party. But those on
:09:25. > :09:30.the other side say, he is doing is a what he said he said he would always
:09:31. > :09:36.do, appointing a team in his image. On this journey, day by day, the
:09:37. > :09:43.make it work brigade are finding it harder and harder and harder to make
:09:44. > :09:48.it work. The appointment of Ken Livingstone is just the latest in a
:09:49. > :09:53.line of these kinds of things. In the next few weeks, we have got
:09:54. > :10:04.Jeremy Corbyn Lanning to a tend -- planning to attend a Stop the War
:10:05. > :10:08.rally. And next week the Labour Party is trying to ask Labour MPs to
:10:09. > :10:11.abstain on a vote on Trident which is being put forward by the SNP and
:10:12. > :10:16.defy the party's own official policy.
:10:17. > :10:20.You mentioned the continual argy-bargy within the Labour Party.
:10:21. > :10:23.We have had this developing row now between Kevan Jones, speaking on
:10:24. > :10:29.defence the Labour, saying he didn't quite know what Ken Livingstone's
:10:30. > :10:37.credentials were heading up a row of -- a review of the policy. Ken
:10:38. > :10:39.Livingstone said that Mr Jones needed treatment for mental
:10:40. > :10:43.problems, Kevan Jones hit back at him, and now we have Mr Livingstone,
:10:44. > :10:50.all of this happening in one morning. This is what he had to say
:10:51. > :10:55.on LBC. If he apologises for criticising my ability to do this
:10:56. > :10:58.job, perhaps... You have control over your professional capacities.
:10:59. > :11:03.He has no control over his mental health. If he wants to apologise,
:11:04. > :11:10.that is fine. Ken, just say sorry to the man. He suffers from clinical
:11:11. > :11:14.depression, and you cast aspersions on his mental health. He was rude
:11:15. > :11:21.about me. Would you have said the same things about his psychiatric
:11:22. > :11:25.health if you knew that he was a sufferer of depression. Of course I
:11:26. > :11:32.wouldn't. Well, there you go. The next word is sorry, I think. Once he
:11:33. > :11:39.apologises for criticising my appointment, I might be nice.
:11:40. > :11:46.Ken Livingstone just are so ago. Should he apologise? He absolutely
:11:47. > :11:51.should. I hadn't heard confirmation of what he said, but it sends such a
:11:52. > :11:53.damaging message to anybody who is struggling with mental illness
:11:54. > :12:00.around the country, and of course he should apologise. Laura talked about
:12:01. > :12:03.what she graphically called the make it work brigade in the Labour Party
:12:04. > :12:09.beginning to despair. Are you part of the make it work brigade? We are
:12:10. > :12:12.all in the make it work again! So are you beginning to despair as
:12:13. > :12:24.well? Absolutely not. Jeremy Corbyn is ten June -- changing the tone of
:12:25. > :12:29.PMQs, putting forward his plans to cut tackle the cuts in being,
:12:30. > :12:33.working people and difficulties in the steel industry.
:12:34. > :12:39.On the issue of the Russian veto, if we went to the UN and Russia vetoed
:12:40. > :12:44.our attempts to get involved further in the Middle East, would that be
:12:45. > :12:48.the end of it the Labour? It would depend on the deal that Cameron was
:12:49. > :12:51.putting forward, and we have said very clearly, Hilary Benn and Jeremy
:12:52. > :12:55.Corbyn have said we will consider the plan that David Cameron puts
:12:56. > :13:01.forward. At the moment, we have talks going on in Vienna that look
:13:02. > :13:06.like they may make some progress towards a full political and
:13:07. > :13:10.diplomatic settlement in Syria. A full political and diplomatic
:13:11. > :13:15.settlement? Really? It looks like we may make some progress towards
:13:16. > :13:17.that. But if the Russians veto our foreign policy, Labour would go
:13:18. > :13:23.along with that? That is my question? It depends on the plan
:13:24. > :13:26.David Cameron puts forward. He said himself yesterday that simply
:13:27. > :13:29.dropping a few bombs want to transform the situation in Syria. We
:13:30. > :13:34.have been clear that he ought to go to the UN and try to get a mandate
:13:35. > :13:38.faction, but it should only take place as part of a wider plan.
:13:39. > :13:45.Russia are involved in those talks in Vienna, as are we. Should Ken
:13:46. > :13:54.Livingstone, given his failure to apologise to Mr Jones, should he
:13:55. > :13:59.resign from, or indeed be fired from, this defence review? The body
:14:00. > :14:03.that takes action on matters like this is the second of committee. My
:14:04. > :14:07.understanding is they are the body that has appointed him. I was asking
:14:08. > :14:11.for your view. If he doesn't apologise, I would expect that this
:14:12. > :14:15.would go back to the NEC and they would take action, and I would think
:14:16. > :14:18.that would be the right thing to do. He is defying the Labour leader on
:14:19. > :14:25.this. My view is that he should apologise. And if he doesn't? Then
:14:26. > :14:30.it should go back to the National executive committee, and they should
:14:31. > :14:33.take action. What does that mean? I can't pre-empt what they should do.
:14:34. > :14:37.Do you think that they should fire him? My preference would be that he
:14:38. > :14:43.would apologise or they would persuade him to. That would be more
:14:44. > :14:49.productive. If he doesn't? He told us in that clip not to wait for an
:14:50. > :14:53.apology. If he doesn't, would you like the NEC to demand he stepped
:14:54. > :14:57.down? I think it would be very difficult to move forward on the
:14:58. > :15:01.basis on which we currently are without an apology. I think we would
:15:02. > :15:09.have to find a way to bring forward a solution that would mean that
:15:10. > :15:20.those... That body could work together, and I think that doesn't
:15:21. > :15:25.look likely. We go to the Central lobby of the House of Commons, John
:15:26. > :15:28.Woodcock. What you make of Ken Livingstone's refusal to apologise?
:15:29. > :15:33.I think it is really disappointing, and I hope that when the furious
:15:34. > :15:40.this morning has died down and he does reflect on this issue, because
:15:41. > :15:46.Kevan Jones's bravery in speaking out about depression in the House of
:15:47. > :15:52.Commons when no one else really had done that before is what led me to
:15:53. > :15:58.be able to feel able to talk about the depression but I have suffered.
:15:59. > :16:04.And I think it sends a terrible signal that if we say that this is
:16:05. > :16:09.just part of the normal toing and froing of political debate, it
:16:10. > :16:16.isn't. Ken last week said that Maria Eagle was mad if she thought a
:16:17. > :16:19.particular way, and I know that people speak loosely with that kind
:16:20. > :16:26.of language, but this was something else. I am not going to get drawn
:16:27. > :16:30.into, I thought Lisa spoke really well on this, and I am not into get
:16:31. > :16:33.drawn into the issue of whether he should remain as chair, because I
:16:34. > :16:41.have big issues with him being chair for different reasons. Then let me
:16:42. > :16:45.ask you about them. Mr Livingstone seemly didn't know about Mr Jones's
:16:46. > :16:49.depression issues, so let's say that Mr Livingstone isn't necessarily
:16:50. > :16:56.anything of an expert on mental health issues. Could you explain to
:16:57. > :16:59.our viewers, what are his qualifications, his defence
:17:00. > :17:03.expertise? What does he have in that area to head up this defence
:17:04. > :17:10.review? I am unable to explain to your viewers that. What has
:17:11. > :17:14.concerned... I have concerns about whether the Shadow Defence Secretary
:17:15. > :17:19.was properly consulted on this, what were the reasons for him being
:17:20. > :17:23.appointed, but that for me is a separate issue to the really serious
:17:24. > :17:31.thing about a leading member of the Labour Party who is quite openly
:17:32. > :17:37.using inappropriate language around mental health, and then refusing to
:17:38. > :17:43.withdraw it. So I think aside from the toing and froing of internal
:17:44. > :17:46.Labour Party reviews, which is sometimes hard to excite even Labour
:17:47. > :17:50.Party members about, and much more serious issue is that we can speak
:17:51. > :17:54.to each other in a decent inhuman way and we can actually make normal
:17:55. > :18:01.being able to discuss mental health conditions without them becoming to
:18:02. > :18:04.user reviews -- terms of abuse. I understand that, but I take it what
:18:05. > :18:07.you're saying is that you don't understand why Jeremy Corbyn has
:18:08. > :18:15.appointed Mr Livingstone died at the defence review, even you don't think
:18:16. > :18:20.he has any expertise? -- to head up the defence review. I think he has
:18:21. > :18:25.kept quiet on that in recent years, that is the most diplomatic thing I
:18:26. > :18:30.can say. One final question while we have you. Isn't it a problem for
:18:31. > :18:35.your party that on a morning when we are dealing with the aftermath of
:18:36. > :18:43.Harris and the ongoing anti-terrorism and the risk to this
:18:44. > :18:46.country -- of Paris, that Her Majesty is opposition has been
:18:47. > :18:54.sidetracked into essentially slanging match between two Labour
:18:55. > :19:01.members? It is not great that this is happening, but be under no doubt
:19:02. > :19:05.that while I think hopefully all of us here, certainly myself and
:19:06. > :19:16.everyone I know, is absolutely focused on the issue of how we can
:19:17. > :19:21.combat Daish, and what we can do beyond our borders to rid the Middle
:19:22. > :19:26.East region of this terrible evil, and we will go on doing that. I said
:19:27. > :19:31.that was my last, but one more quick one. Given Mr Corbyn's remarks to
:19:32. > :19:35.Laura Kuenssberg about shooter killed, his remarks about Jihadi
:19:36. > :19:40.John, he should have been arrested rather than eviscerated by a drone,
:19:41. > :19:44.given his appointment of Mr Livingstone, do you still have
:19:45. > :19:50.confidence in Mr Corbyn is leader of your party? Jeremy Renner aims are
:19:51. > :19:54.elected leader with a substantial majority, and that isn't better
:19:55. > :20:03.change any time soon. -- remains the elected leader. I hope that we can
:20:04. > :20:07.resolve this and be able to work on a better basis that we have been
:20:08. > :20:11.doing over the last few days. You optimistic about that or depressed
:20:12. > :20:14.by the prospect? I think optimism and depression in the current
:20:15. > :20:18.context is not quite how I would describe it. I will keep doing the
:20:19. > :20:20.best job I have can my constituents! Thank you for joining
:20:21. > :20:34.us. Laura, I have to say as a journalist
:20:35. > :20:38.of quite long-standing I have never covered anything like this. For a
:20:39. > :20:42.Monday night after Labour Parliamentary meeting I have never
:20:43. > :20:46.had conversations like some of the conversations I had with MPs coming
:20:47. > :20:51.out of that meeting, crucially not people where we know where they
:20:52. > :20:56.stand, one said I feel physically sick, I do not know how much longer
:20:57. > :21:04.I can go with this. Feelings are so high. Just as John Woodcock was
:21:05. > :21:11.hinting, as he managed his way out of it very diplomatically, Jeremy
:21:12. > :21:17.Corbyn's very resounding victory, even for those who think it is not
:21:18. > :21:22.sustainable, there is no alternative. There is nobody waiting
:21:23. > :21:27.in the wings to rush forward. The question of how this operation
:21:28. > :21:31.survives day by day is a very live one and briefly worth mentioning,
:21:32. > :21:34.yesterday in the House of Commons most people were focusing on what
:21:35. > :21:39.David Cameron said that after David Cameron finished Labour MP after
:21:40. > :21:45.Labour MPs stood up and made comments that were in open defiance
:21:46. > :21:49.of Jeremy Corbyn. This is not just about rushed conversations with
:21:50. > :21:53.journalists, this is starting to happen in public with people not all
:21:54. > :21:56.on the right of the party. Given what has happened in the past ten
:21:57. > :22:07.minutes you have got a get out of jail card. Given the problems the
:22:08. > :22:11.opposition has would not be incumbent on the Prime Minister on
:22:12. > :22:16.matters of national importance to be showing more leadership? I think he
:22:17. > :22:24.showed of leadership. Labour are in a real muddle and Jeremy Corbyn...
:22:25. > :22:28.Come on. I did not ask for your analysis of the Labour Party. We do
:22:29. > :22:32.not have the comprehensive strategy on how to handle Syria and we do not
:22:33. > :22:37.know whether or not we are going to get a vote in the Commons on this.
:22:38. > :22:42.He is going to set out a response to that Foreign Affairs Committee
:22:43. > :22:47.report. In the fullness of time. They are working on a strategy. I do
:22:48. > :22:50.not accept there is a lack of leadership at all. You saw
:22:51. > :22:53.leadership in spades today from David Cameron. You would say that.
:22:54. > :22:57.Laura, a busy day for you. Now, every campaign needs a sharp
:22:58. > :23:00.American strategist, and Leave.EU His job is to mastermind
:23:01. > :23:05.its campaign to persuade Britons they are better off without
:23:06. > :23:07.the European Union, and we'll be But first, Leave.EU
:23:08. > :23:14.have some new polling out today. They asked a sample of British
:23:15. > :23:17.voters whether the UK should remain 38% said it should leave,
:23:18. > :23:29.with 20% undecided. Leave.EU
:23:30. > :23:31.also asked what people feel about 48% said free movement
:23:32. > :23:40.makes them feel unsafe. 9% said it makes them feel safe and
:23:41. > :23:45.33% said it makes no difference. And who should be the face
:23:46. > :23:49.of the anti-EU movement? 26% want the Ukip leader,
:23:50. > :23:51.Nigel Farage, while the London Mayor, Boris
:23:52. > :23:54.Johnson is the preference for 13%. Home Secretary Theresa May is
:23:55. > :24:00.the third favourite. And Leave.EU's
:24:01. > :24:11.Gerry Gunster joins us now. Welcome. You face and back uphill
:24:12. > :24:18.struggle if you look at that showing that more people want to remain in
:24:19. > :24:23.the EU. We do. There is something inherent about referendums, which is
:24:24. > :24:29.one of the reasons why I am working here with Leave.EU and that is that
:24:30. > :24:35.most people when it comes to referendums want to vote to keep the
:24:36. > :24:40.status quo. You see for example in the United States 60% of all
:24:41. > :24:45.referendums and initiatives fail. Because people do not want to make
:24:46. > :24:49.the change. However, there is precedent and there are a lot of
:24:50. > :24:54.times when people will go that way. Look at it like a game of billiards,
:24:55. > :24:59.this is a double blank shot. We have to be able to convince people there
:25:00. > :25:17.is a problem and secondly sure that there is a solution to that problem.
:25:18. > :25:22.Billiards? Would your double pronged attack be focused on immigration or
:25:23. > :25:26.economics or both? I think it is a combination of all of the above. The
:25:27. > :25:34.polling is showing that they are three issues. Immigration, the
:25:35. > :25:38.economy and the issue of whether we should have the right to make our
:25:39. > :25:46.own laws hear in the UK as opposed to having it come out of the EU.
:25:47. > :25:49.What should be central? The EU principle of free movement, perhaps
:25:50. > :25:53.unsurprisingly at the moment 9% of people feel safe, bearing in mind
:25:54. > :26:00.the context of what has been happening, 48% feel unsafe, is that
:26:01. > :26:06.where you are going to focus? Immigration is the number 1 issue,
:26:07. > :26:09.no question. The economy is number two. That does not mean that as the
:26:10. > :26:16.weight is going to be in six months a year. These referendums are
:26:17. > :26:19.extremely volatile. Use that in Greece and Scotland, numbers were
:26:20. > :26:27.all over the place. Tomorrow it could be something else. We have got
:26:28. > :26:33.Labour MP John man who is in the House of Commons. He is in the
:26:34. > :26:38.Central Lobby of the House of Commons. Given everything that has
:26:39. > :26:43.happened in recent days about Labour's response to national
:26:44. > :26:47.security and defence, from the Labour's office, do you still have
:26:48. > :26:52.confidence in Jeremy Corbyn as leader of your party? I have total
:26:53. > :26:56.faith and confidence as does everyone in the Parliamentary party
:26:57. > :27:03.in Hilary Benn who is leading for us on it, who has spelt out our policy
:27:04. > :27:07.on should to kill, who has spelt out our policy on intervention in
:27:08. > :27:10.Syria, and everybody including Jeremy is having to come in behind
:27:11. > :27:13.Hilary Benn who has been given the lead and as long as Hillary
:27:14. > :27:18.continues to give the lead in this way we are all going to be very
:27:19. > :27:22.happy because we are in the right place. You have confidence in Hilary
:27:23. > :27:28.Benn but not in the leader of the Labour Party? Jeremy has confidence
:27:29. > :27:31.in Hilary as well so that is good news. Hillary speaks for the Labour
:27:32. > :27:37.Party on matters relating to defence. That has been very clear.
:27:38. > :27:41.Hillary answered the questions that the Parliamentary party on Monday.
:27:42. > :27:50.That is the right approach. It is sensible for Jeremy, to allow
:27:51. > :27:55.Hillary to lead and he has done and Hillary has done it exceedingly
:27:56. > :28:00.well. What Hillary has said I agree with. You have not been able to
:28:01. > :28:05.bring yourself to see that you have confidence in the leader of the
:28:06. > :28:09.Labour Party. I have a huge amount of confidence in Jeremy allowing
:28:10. > :28:14.Hilary Benn to lead on Syria and for him to spell out the policy. That is
:28:15. > :28:21.what he has done. Confidence in them both. We want Hilary Benn leading
:28:22. > :28:24.the way. Not Jeremy Corbyn. Hilary Benn is leading and that is the
:28:25. > :28:30.right thing to do and it is succeeding because we can unite
:28:31. > :28:40.behind what he is saying. Thank you. We only have a few seconds. That is
:28:41. > :28:46.open warfare. It is not. He is perfectly entitled to say that. We
:28:47. > :28:50.have a leader and Shadow Foreign Secretary who have set out the same
:28:51. > :28:55.approach on stock to kill. Do you have confidence in Jeremy Corbyn? Of
:28:56. > :28:58.course. He could not bring himself to say that. You have had members of
:28:59. > :29:02.the Labour Party agreeing. There's just time to put you out
:29:03. > :29:05.of your misery and give you The key was the launch of sky
:29:06. > :29:17.television. Use me in the picture. The One O'Clock News is
:29:18. > :29:22.starting over on BBC One now. I'll be here
:29:23. > :29:24.at noon tomorrow with all the big The knives are sharpened,
:29:25. > :29:38.and the heat is on...