:00:37. > :00:38.Hello and welcome to the Daily Politics.
:00:39. > :00:43.Labour's annual income could fall by ?6 million as a result of legal
:00:44. > :00:47.changes to party funding being debated in the Lords today.
:00:48. > :00:50.An internal Labour document says changes to its funding
:00:51. > :00:53.from the unions could leave the party unable "to maintain
:00:54. > :00:58.its current structure, staffing or offices".
:00:59. > :01:01.Another member of Jeremy Corbyn's front bench team resigns,
:01:02. > :01:03.this time it's the Shadow attorney general Catherine McKinnell,
:01:04. > :01:08.citing "concerns about the direction" of the party.
:01:09. > :01:11.Four months to go until London gets a new Mayor.
:01:12. > :01:13.The gloves are off between the two main contenders.
:01:14. > :01:17.We'll be reviewing the contest so far.
:01:18. > :01:22.The first junior doctors' strike in 40 years is due to start at 8am
:01:23. > :01:45.They are an essential service so they should not mess around with
:01:46. > :01:47.schedules. They are paid clap, it is not right.
:01:48. > :01:50.All that in the next hour and with us for the duration,
:01:51. > :01:52.Conservative MP, Mims Davies and Labour MP,
:01:53. > :01:53.and Shadow Economic Secretary, Richard Burgon.
:01:54. > :01:56.Now, first this morning the authorities in northern France
:01:57. > :01:58.are taking action to improve conditions for migrants.
:01:59. > :02:00.In Dunkirk, a semi-permanent camp will be established.
:02:01. > :02:03.In Calais, part of the migrant camp - known as "The "Jungle" -
:02:04. > :02:06.is to be cleared and replaced with a facility that will eventually
:02:07. > :02:26.A good idea? A sensible plan? Doing something has to happen because so
:02:27. > :02:30.many people are attracted to this area and living in conditions which
:02:31. > :02:34.nobody wants to see. It is sensible we look at something but really I
:02:35. > :02:38.want to see these people in countries where they want to be,
:02:39. > :02:42.where they are supported properly, and ultimately, we as a country are
:02:43. > :02:48.able to maintain our borders and make sure that we are not seeing
:02:49. > :02:50.people continue to flock to France, and we are working actively with
:02:51. > :02:57.France to make sure those people and we are working actively with
:02:58. > :03:00.with humanely. You said it should be resettled in countries where they
:03:01. > :03:05.like to be and if that happens to be Great Britain, should that be
:03:06. > :03:09.allowed? I spent many weeks on the recent immigration Bill, taking lots
:03:10. > :03:14.of evidence with many people with different views on this and the
:03:15. > :03:20.concern about the way we are perceived, we need to get
:03:21. > :03:24.immigration right, and I think this will is maybe going to deal with
:03:25. > :03:28.people who feel we are the soft touch and on our doorsteps, able do
:03:29. > :03:34.not feel we are getting it right. Does that not mean we should not
:03:35. > :03:39.take more migrants? We're not taking any Syrian refugees, other than
:03:40. > :03:46.those from camps. Those from Calais, should we take them into the UK? We
:03:47. > :03:47.have a plan that is working and have settled people from camps, and it is
:03:48. > :03:55.dangerous to keep allowing people settled people from camps, and it is
:03:56. > :03:58.come across from Europe, in difficult conditions, because that
:03:59. > :04:01.is a better place to be, in their own countries. We have so many
:04:02. > :04:10.unaccompanied minors and they have to be dealt with. Is it a magnet if
:04:11. > :04:13.you set up a permanent facility or a semipermanent facility, does it
:04:14. > :04:19.become a magnet for more people to come across and make dangerous
:04:20. > :04:24.journeys to try and get into Great Britain? Firstly, the conditions in
:04:25. > :04:31.the refugee camp in Calais are horrific. I have friends who have
:04:32. > :04:40.gone over there to help and no human being should be allowed to live in
:04:41. > :04:44.that condition. 8000 people are in Dunkirk, and 5000 people are in
:04:45. > :04:50.Calais. This is much smaller than the refugee crisis after World War
:04:51. > :04:54.II, so it is important to remember people are fleeing persecution. You
:04:55. > :04:59.would want to see them rehouse in Great Britain? We need to take
:05:00. > :05:04.shared responsibility and the true to our humanitarian values and help
:05:05. > :05:09.people who are in desperate need of help was not family people would you
:05:10. > :05:13.take? It is not a question of numbers but firstly, the government
:05:14. > :05:17.was not prepared to take enough people, we were not propelling our
:05:18. > :05:20.moral duty, but because of public opinion, the government increased
:05:21. > :05:24.the number of people that they were going to allow to come to Great
:05:25. > :05:29.Britain, and I do think we need to take our fair share across Europe,
:05:30. > :05:32.and we need a France-UK agreement about how to help these people
:05:33. > :05:36.living in awful conditions in the refugee camps.
:05:37. > :05:40.The question for today is all about Jeremy Corbyn's Twitter
:05:41. > :05:42.account, which last night was apparently hacked and began
:05:43. > :05:43.broadcasting a series of rather unusual messages.
:05:44. > :05:47.Among them was one about the Prime Minister.
:05:48. > :05:52.Was it a) An evil monster b) A jolly nice chap
:05:53. > :06:14.At the end of the show, Mike Guest here will give us an answer. -- my
:06:15. > :06:17.guests. A confidential document set out the scale of Labour's funding
:06:18. > :06:27.crisis. The document seen by the Guardian says Labour's annual income
:06:28. > :06:31.could fall by ?6 million a year after legislation going through
:06:32. > :06:33.Parliament. The document said it would be impossible to maintain its
:06:34. > :06:39.current structure, staffing or offices. The Bill, being debated
:06:40. > :06:45.today, would seek union members having to opt in to pay a levy is
:06:46. > :06:48.part of their fees. Labour believes around 3 million fewer members would
:06:49. > :06:54.do so, slashing its income. Ed Miliband introduced changes to the
:06:55. > :06:58.rules which were already set to reduce contributions from union
:06:59. > :07:12.members. The government is also planning to cut short money.
:07:13. > :07:17.That is the funding opposition parties got to help with their
:07:18. > :07:19.Parliament to duties. It would further cut Labour's income by about
:07:20. > :07:30.?1.3 million a year. We did ask the Department
:07:31. > :07:33.for Business for an interview but no Joining me now is the Shadow Justice
:07:34. > :07:40.Secretary, Lord Falconer. It is but got to be done with
:07:41. > :07:43.writing, within the next three months, and the system has worked
:07:44. > :07:47.well over a long period of time. The last time people tried to change it
:07:48. > :07:51.was immediately after the General strike when the Tory government
:07:52. > :07:55.tried to do it then. It is obviously motivated by an attempt to reduce
:07:56. > :07:59.the amount of funding coming to Labour, and it is entirely
:08:00. > :08:03.consistent with the other changes that have been referred to. It is
:08:04. > :08:06.not just about signing up to a political levy, it is also trying to
:08:07. > :08:12.break agreements between employers and unions whereby money is taken
:08:13. > :08:17.out of somebody's wages with their agreement and given to the union. It
:08:18. > :08:19.looks to me very much like it is motivated by trying to reduce the
:08:20. > :08:25.amount of funding that is coming to Labour. You are desperately worried
:08:26. > :08:29.about a loss of funds because that is important. I am talking about the
:08:30. > :08:33.physical system in this country. That is the key issue here. Do you
:08:34. > :08:39.think it is right that the amount of funding coming from the unions to a
:08:40. > :08:43.political party should be attacked in legislation? I do not,
:08:44. > :08:49.particularly with something that has worked for so long. People can still
:08:50. > :08:52.opt in, why is it being attacked? It is a transparent system. There is
:08:53. > :08:58.not an attack on that ability of unions to give money to the Labour
:08:59. > :09:01.Party, they can still do it. Exactly, it will be more difficult.
:09:02. > :09:06.If you make things more difficult and impose unnecessary bureaucratic
:09:07. > :09:10.requirements, that reduces the number. You are absolutely right
:09:11. > :09:15.when you say that the intention is to make it more difficult, not
:09:16. > :09:22.fairer. Why, and I ask this rhetorically, why attack the
:09:23. > :09:27.operators, which is where employers and employees agree it should be
:09:28. > :09:31.done. I can think that the only reason for attacking the check off
:09:32. > :09:35.arrangements is in the hope of less money being available. You have
:09:36. > :09:38.referred to this in your opening, the short money is being reduced.
:09:39. > :09:44.The short money is money made available to political parties,
:09:45. > :09:49.opposition parties, to try and help them properly oppose the government,
:09:50. > :09:54.and it is something that all political parties have agreed on for
:09:55. > :10:01.years and years and years. Why would you want to reduce the money
:10:02. > :10:06.available? Hang on, let's just stick with the funding views, we've come
:10:07. > :10:11.onto money. Ed Miliband introduced changes to rules around trade union
:10:12. > :10:16.affiliated funding where it would be a case of people opting in, so why
:10:17. > :10:20.can that not be used in the same way as political funds? What is being
:10:21. > :10:24.talked about is whether a union has a political fund. What Ed Miliband
:10:25. > :10:28.was talking about and I enthusiastically agree, is that if
:10:29. > :10:35.the money is to come from Labour, then individual member should agree
:10:36. > :10:41.to that. Why shouldn't they agree? Why shouldn't they actively do it,
:10:42. > :10:45.opting in? Yes, it is more difficult and more transparent, and it shows
:10:46. > :10:49.that people want the money to go to Labour. You are upset because of
:10:50. > :10:52.what is seen as easy political funding for Labour which will go
:10:53. > :10:58.down. You are not addressing the point I am making which is that the
:10:59. > :11:02.written agreement has to be to a political funds and secondly, why
:11:03. > :11:05.attack the agreement is reached between employer and employee, which
:11:06. > :11:11.both sides agreed to? Because what you are doing is putting up
:11:12. > :11:15.particular bureaucratic difficulties to try and reduce the money going to
:11:16. > :11:20.Labour. How much less will Labour received? You look at the front page
:11:21. > :11:25.of the Guardian and it gives a figure of ?6 million, is that what
:11:26. > :11:28.you think will happen? I don't know but I know that if you make the
:11:29. > :11:36.bureaucratic processes more difficult that will inevitably leads
:11:37. > :11:41.to less people giving money, and... You have a bigger membership, more
:11:42. > :11:45.people have joined the party since Jeremy Corbyn became leader. What
:11:46. > :11:48.are you worried about? Are you not scaring people into saying the
:11:49. > :11:53.Labour Party will not be able to fund its own act it is best might
:11:54. > :11:58.you do not know. I am making the point... I do not know the precise
:11:59. > :12:03.figure, you are right that I know it is wrong to simply pass a piece of
:12:04. > :12:07.legislation because although you purport to make it for one person,
:12:08. > :12:14.your real purpose is to try and reduce the effect of the opposition
:12:15. > :12:18.on the government. Are these sorts of measures not taken on a
:12:19. > :12:23.cross-party basis and this has been totally abandoned by the Tory
:12:24. > :12:27.government? The cost of politics has to come down as a whole and we will
:12:28. > :12:30.talk about that shortly but I don't think there is anything wrong with
:12:31. > :12:36.being able to opt in, that is not bureaucratic. I opted in and became
:12:37. > :12:38.a member of the Tory party and it was easy. If you want to be
:12:39. > :12:45.involved, you should have the ability. Historic employer -employee
:12:46. > :12:54.agreement, maybe people don't feel that. Should be done online? --
:12:55. > :13:00.should it. If you want to join a political movement party, you should
:13:01. > :13:03.be able to think about it. You don't if you just think it is more about
:13:04. > :13:08.your employee rights and how you work. You know, it may feel slightly
:13:09. > :13:11.different to whether you want to be a member of the Labour Party and
:13:12. > :13:18.many are probably question thing that right now, so it is a perfect
:13:19. > :13:22.time. I mean, no balancing measure is being taken, is it? To cap
:13:23. > :13:26.donations to the Tory party, and I'm sure my other guests would say, what
:13:27. > :13:34.is being done to cap the individual donations from hedge fund managers
:13:35. > :13:41.or rich bankers, who it is said they would exert pressure on the
:13:42. > :13:48.policymakers? It is very difficult to get support in politics. Are you
:13:49. > :13:52.attacking the Labour Party? No, it is difficult to bring money in
:13:53. > :13:56.because people don't necessarily believe in politics the way they
:13:57. > :14:01.used to, so I think absolutely we need to make it clear how you are
:14:02. > :14:05.involved, make it very clear where the money comes from, and make it
:14:06. > :14:08.clear that when we are making savings in all areas
:14:09. > :14:10.clear that when we are making asking each area to look at their
:14:11. > :14:14.own, and... asking each area to look at their
:14:15. > :14:19.good thing that there is a huge asking each area to look at their
:14:20. > :14:22.Conservative Party and partly asking each area to look at their
:14:23. > :14:23.because of the measures taken, when general elections ago, there will be
:14:24. > :14:32.a reduced amount of money? general elections ago, there will be
:14:33. > :14:39.democracy. I hear you... general elections ago, there will be
:14:40. > :14:42.it is therefore you, and general elections ago, there will be
:14:43. > :14:46.to opt other hedge funds and a jaw somebody who sends me ?25 because
:14:47. > :14:47.they believe in the Conservative Party, that option should be
:14:48. > :14:55.available to everybody. Isn't it an Party, that option should be
:14:56. > :14:58.anachronism that the five big union still have such large political
:14:59. > :15:05.funds anyway at their disposable that then people can say that you
:15:06. > :15:08.are using that money to exert political pressure on the Labour
:15:09. > :15:13.leadership? I want working class able involved in politics, that is
:15:14. > :15:18.not an anachronism. That is not answer my question. The issue is
:15:19. > :15:21.this. It is not just attacking the ability of unions to become involved
:15:22. > :15:27.in the Labour Party, it is attacking the ability of unions to be involved
:15:28. > :15:31.in anti-racist campaigns. One campaign was funded by trade unions
:15:32. > :15:34.and played a key role in beating the BNP and they are very worried about
:15:35. > :15:39.their future because of this measure.
:15:40. > :15:46.What about the fact that have large political funds that are
:15:47. > :15:51.used to pressurise, as some people see it, Labour leadership into
:15:52. > :15:56.passing policy that they would support? I do not want to see trade
:15:57. > :16:02.unionists taken out of the political process. I think this comes down to,
:16:03. > :16:06.do we believe, that it is important to have an opposition that is funded
:16:07. > :16:09.properly and can hold a government to account. Winston Churchill
:16:10. > :16:13.believed you should not interfere with the other political parties'
:16:14. > :16:18.funding arrangements. I agree with that principle is well and I am
:16:19. > :16:25.disappointed that the Conservatives are parting from that principle.
:16:26. > :16:29.Where is that in the Conservative manifesto? I would have to dig that
:16:30. > :16:34.out! I do not think it is in the manifesto. Coming back to you
:16:35. > :16:42.finally, would this be overturned? You would have to... The Lords would
:16:43. > :16:47.not reject the whole bill, they will make changes to the bill to make it
:16:48. > :16:51.fair, to make the political process work better, because I think it is
:16:52. > :16:54.an attack on the political process. Stay with us.
:16:55. > :16:56.In the last hour it's been confirmed that another member
:16:57. > :16:58.of Jeremy Corbyn's shadow team has resigned.
:16:59. > :17:00.Catherine McKinnell, who was the Shadow Attorney General,
:17:01. > :17:02.wrote to Jeremy Corbyn to say she was standing down mainly
:17:03. > :17:06.However, in her letter, she also says she is concerned
:17:07. > :17:08."about the direction and internal conflict within the Labour Party"
:17:09. > :17:10.and her fear that this is taking it down
:17:11. > :17:14.Well, the Labour leader was on the Today programme
:17:15. > :17:19.this morning and was asked about his recent reshuffle:
:17:20. > :17:22.It's never easy, and that I have gathered because I've read
:17:23. > :17:25.the diaries of many former leaders, and there's never a good time to do
:17:26. > :17:28.it, and according to every expert at Westminster,
:17:29. > :17:31.reshuffles are always planned to take place in a few hours
:17:32. > :17:40.and then take a few days and that I fully understand and appreciate.
:17:41. > :17:45.We have a Shadow Cabinet that is strong, we have a team
:17:46. > :17:48.that is strong, the party membership is very strong and so we have
:17:49. > :17:50.widened the Shadow Cabinet to represent the diversity
:17:51. > :17:52.of the country and diversity of the membership of
:17:53. > :17:54.the Parliamentary Labour Party, so I am happy with it,
:17:55. > :17:57.we are moving on, doing a lot of campaigning and getting ready
:17:58. > :18:08.Well, that was Jeremy Corbyn. Does it feel strong to you, the shadow
:18:09. > :18:11.Cabinet? There has been another resignation from Catherine McKinnell
:18:12. > :18:15.who says she is worried and concerned about the direction of the
:18:16. > :18:21.party. The shadow cabinet does feel strong. It is a very strong and
:18:22. > :18:28.diverse team. I was only told as I was coming into the studio about
:18:29. > :18:34.Catherine McKinnell's resignation. She was an effective Attorney
:18:35. > :18:37.General -- Shadow Attorney General. She had given important advice over
:18:38. > :18:44.the last few months. She cites family reasons and she has recently
:18:45. > :18:48.had a baby and she has done an incredibly good job. She does cite
:18:49. > :18:53.family reasons, that is in the letter as she said, but she also
:18:54. > :18:56.says she finds it negative and actually, the direction of the party
:18:57. > :19:02.at the moment, rightly or wrongly, is something that she is worried
:19:03. > :19:05.about. What do you say to her? I think is important that the party
:19:06. > :19:09.faces outwards against the Conservative Party and the other
:19:10. > :19:14.political parties, and that is what the Labour Party is determined to
:19:15. > :19:17.do. Do you think it is failing to do that at the moment because of the
:19:18. > :19:20.infighting? John McDonnell said those who resigned after the
:19:21. > :19:27.reshuffle were part of a narrow right-wing clique within Labour, and
:19:28. > :19:30.some of the protest group were hard right. I did think it is right that
:19:31. > :19:36.we should be talking about each other. I think we should be talking
:19:37. > :19:41.about the Conservatives. I do think that a reshuffle, like any reshuffle
:19:42. > :19:44.inevitably becomes a flash point for difference, but we have got to move
:19:45. > :19:52.on from there. Was he wrong to say that? I don't think any of us should
:19:53. > :19:57.be attacking each other. Do you think Charlie Faulkner is part of
:19:58. > :20:02.the hard right? Not at all. The thing is, whatever the media
:20:03. > :20:08.reports, all Labour MP and Labour Lords agree 99% of things. Does not
:20:09. > :20:14.look like that, if you have the shadow Chancellor, not over Syria or
:20:15. > :20:18.Trident, these are major decisions, they don't agree, that is fine.
:20:19. > :20:23.Jeremy Corbyn says he wants to have a debate that it is not true that
:20:24. > :20:31.the party agrees 99% when you take just those big issues? On anti-cuts
:20:32. > :20:38.policies, the vast majority of Labour MPs agree. Why did he call
:20:39. > :20:42.the three that resigned a narrow right-wing clique? We need to be
:20:43. > :20:47.looking outwards, that is what Charlie said. The vast majority of
:20:48. > :20:51.Labour MPs agree on the vast majority of things. There is nothing
:20:52. > :20:55.unusual about members of a political party having disagreements. The
:20:56. > :20:58.Conservative Party on the European Union are in fundamental
:20:59. > :21:02.disagreement with each other. They are, but is it helpful for people
:21:03. > :21:06.like John McDonnell in the position he's in, to start accusing members
:21:07. > :21:09.of his own party and members of the shadow cabinet team of being right
:21:10. > :21:21.wing? There are people on the left of the Labour Party and to the right
:21:22. > :21:24.of the Labour Party. Labour is a broad church and should be. What
:21:25. > :21:26.about Trident? Is it inevitable in your mind that the current Labour
:21:27. > :21:33.Party policy on Trident will be changed? The policy will be
:21:34. > :21:37.reviewed. It is being reviewed. In the last Labour Party manifesto we
:21:38. > :21:41.said we would renew Trident. We are now working towards the next
:21:42. > :21:47.manifesto. Labour MPs have different views on that. I am for not renewing
:21:48. > :21:53.Trident. Charlie is for replacing Trident but we don't fall out about
:21:54. > :21:57.it. I'm asking about inevitability because following the reshuffle,
:21:58. > :22:01.Maria Eagle who would like to renew Trident has been moved, in order to
:22:02. > :22:07.reflect an anti-Trident view from having Emily Thornberry there. Is it
:22:08. > :22:12.inevitable in your mind now that Maria Eagle has been moved, that
:22:13. > :22:17.Trident will not be renewed as Labour Party policy? In Democratic
:22:18. > :22:21.processes, there is nothing that is inevitable. Let's see what decision
:22:22. > :22:27.is made when the Democratic process takes place. I agree with what
:22:28. > :22:32.Richard has said. Really? Who will be campaigning to renew Trident? It
:22:33. > :22:37.will not be renewed now that we look at who is in charge of defence
:22:38. > :22:40.policy in Labour? I agree with what Richard has said. There is a process
:22:41. > :22:55.in the Labour Party. There are members who prefer renewal. Why was
:22:56. > :22:58.Maria Eagle moved? That is a matter for Jeremy Corbyn. What Richard has
:22:59. > :23:05.said is absolutely right, it is for the party to decide what our policy
:23:06. > :23:07.is. If the policy is changed by the end of the summer, as Ken
:23:08. > :23:13.Livingstone has said he would like it to be, will you still be part of
:23:14. > :23:17.the shadow cabinet team? Lets see where we get to in relation to that.
:23:18. > :23:22.I am in favour of the renewal of Trident. I have made that clear just
:23:23. > :23:26.as Richard has made it clear he is against it. This issue has been
:23:27. > :23:29.present in the Labour Party for a very long time. I will not start
:23:30. > :23:33.speculating about whether the party will change its policy. You must
:23:34. > :23:41.know in your mind about what you will do if it does. I will not start
:23:42. > :23:43.speculating on the telly. Why not? I think the right thing is to have the
:23:44. > :23:46.debate in the party. Thank you. Now, let's take a look
:23:47. > :23:48.at what the political week As we've been hearing, this evening,
:23:49. > :23:52.Labour's Parliamentary Party meets It's the first time Labour
:23:53. > :23:55.MPs have come together And the UKIP leader,
:23:56. > :23:59.Nigel Farage heads to Wales where he'll be debating Britain's
:24:00. > :24:01.membership of the EU with the First Minister
:24:02. > :24:09.of Wales, Carwyn Jones. Tomorrow, junior doctors are due
:24:10. > :24:12.to go on Strike for 24 hours in a dispute with the Government
:24:13. > :24:14.over pay and conditions. In the afternoon the Prime Minister
:24:15. > :24:17.appears in front of the liason committee, where he'll be grilled
:24:18. > :24:20.about Syria and climate change. And the Housing and Planning Bill
:24:21. > :24:23.returns to the House of Commons. On Wednesday, David Cameron
:24:24. > :24:25.faces Jeremy Corbyn across the Despatch Box
:24:26. > :24:27.for their weekly dose of PMQs. And later that day, President Obama
:24:28. > :24:29.delivers his annual State of the Union address,
:24:30. > :24:32.the final one of his Presidency. Let's talk now to Isabel Hardman
:24:33. > :24:46.from the Spectator Kevin Maguire, first of all, what
:24:47. > :24:52.will it be like at tonight's meeting of Labour MPs, the PLP? Will it be
:24:53. > :24:59.harmonious? No, it will not be harmonious. Labour MPs are very
:25:00. > :25:05.divided at the moment. We have seen after the resignation of Catherine
:25:06. > :25:09.McKinnell and the reshuffle, Labour have got this power problem. Jeremy
:25:10. > :25:13.Corbyn was backed by the members and yet he's still not master of his own
:25:14. > :25:17.shadow cabinet front bench team and most MPs do not support him. Maybe
:25:18. > :25:22.he will try and contain it, there will be a lot of nervous nerves, a
:25:23. > :25:27.few jabs rather than a full out assault, but Labour is not
:25:28. > :25:31.harmonious at the moment. It is not just Trident and it is not just
:25:32. > :25:34.Syria, and it is not just foreign policy issues, it is a kind of
:25:35. > :25:40.feeling among a lot of MPs that Jeremy Corbyn does not have what it
:25:41. > :25:47.takes to win a general election. His supporters insist he has. Isabelle
:25:48. > :25:53.Hardman, what is the feeling that you get ahead of this PLP meeting
:25:54. > :25:58.this evening? I think Jeremy Corbyn is not going so may become a
:25:59. > :26:02.discussion among different factions. Was he not expected to go? I think
:26:03. > :26:07.we have been expecting for a few days that he would not go to this
:26:08. > :26:13.one. I think on the session is outside of the PLP will be what to
:26:14. > :26:16.do next. There is a sense among junior frontbenchers that it may not
:26:17. > :26:19.be worth continuing to serve under his leadership that those in the
:26:20. > :26:23.shadow cabinet say it is the best thing for the party to stick in
:26:24. > :26:29.there, to try and influence policy on Trident, rather than to leave and
:26:30. > :26:32.leave it to Corbyn's dies. On Trident, talking to Richard Burgon
:26:33. > :26:37.and Charlie Faulkner, there is a process to go through, do you think
:26:38. > :26:43.it is inevitable that party policy will change on Trident? No, I think
:26:44. > :26:50.the party conference will have the final say. The big unions, Unite and
:26:51. > :26:55.GMB are in favour of Trident. They have tens of thousands of members in
:26:56. > :26:58.relatively well-paid jobs building that submarine system. They don't
:26:59. > :27:05.believe claims they will be given other jobs. If you go through that
:27:06. > :27:08.system, it will not get through. Labour is committed to renewing it,
:27:09. > :27:12.it is German Corbyn who is at odds with the party policy. If you can
:27:13. > :27:20.change how Labour makes policy, cutting the unions out which is what
:27:21. > :27:28.Tony Blair did, he might get it then, but I feel there is no shift
:27:29. > :27:32.in the trade unions at the moment to back getting rid of Trident. He is
:27:33. > :27:37.in a power struggle with some of the people who backed him in the
:27:38. > :27:40.election for the leadership. Let's talk about the EU referendum.
:27:41. > :27:45.Listening to the Prime Minister yesterday, it seems it is clear his
:27:46. > :27:49.preferred timetable is wrapping up negotiations in February and holding
:27:50. > :27:54.a referendum in June or July, is that how you see it? That timetable
:27:55. > :27:58.may slip and he has made it clear he is happy to let it slip in order to
:27:59. > :28:02.get a better deal which suggests he suspect there may be some delay,
:28:03. > :28:07.particularly with Angela Merkel is not attending the Davos summit which
:28:08. > :28:11.I think will slow things up in some people's minds. That may mean the
:28:12. > :28:17.referendum cannot take place until September because you cannot hold it
:28:18. > :28:19.over the summer. If there is a migrant crisis again over the
:28:20. > :28:24.summer, the Prime Minister may judge it is not a good idea to hold it
:28:25. > :28:28.straight after that so we could see further delay to next year. What
:28:29. > :28:32.about the party holding together over the issue of Europe? The
:28:33. > :28:39.Conservative Party has always been divided. How would you rate David
:28:40. > :28:46.Cameron's chances? Zero. You cannot do it. He says the members can
:28:47. > :28:50.campaign against him. He does that out of weakness. Giving them a free
:28:51. > :28:55.vote makes it look like Jeremy Corbyn in posing iron discipline
:28:56. > :28:59.over Syria when he allowed his shadow cabinet to go different ways.
:29:00. > :29:05.Most of the MPs are getting to a point where the majority of Tory MPs
:29:06. > :29:09.will vote to come out. He is not going to hold his party together.
:29:10. > :29:13.Whatever that result, the other side will not accept it. It is one of
:29:14. > :29:17.Labour's best chances in the run-up to the next election, that the
:29:18. > :29:22.Tories will once again to hurt themselves apart over Europe. On the
:29:23. > :29:28.doctors strike, Isabelle briefly, how difficult is this now for the
:29:29. > :29:32.government? It has escalated to an extent that nobody is wanting to
:29:33. > :29:36.back down. In the end, do you think a compromise will be reached on the
:29:37. > :29:44.government side? I think neither side trusts the other. Conservative
:29:45. > :29:48.MPs are now no longer prepared to say that the government has handled
:29:49. > :29:52.the striped Italy well. Most people are saying I can see we could have
:29:53. > :29:57.done this better so that is not a good vote of confidence on the
:29:58. > :30:02.conservative side -- they have not handled it particularly well.
:30:03. > :30:04.Now, at 8am tomorrow morning, up to 38,000 junior doctors
:30:05. > :30:06.will drop their stethoscopes and stage a 24-hour strike
:30:07. > :30:09.across England, in a dispute over new contracts that would allow
:30:10. > :30:10.hospitals to rota more weekend staff.
:30:11. > :30:13.It's the first mass walkout of medics since the 1970s
:30:14. > :30:15.and doctors' leaders and government ministers have accused each other
:30:16. > :30:19.So what do the public think about it?
:30:20. > :30:25.We are just hours away from a junior doctors strike.
:30:26. > :30:28.Junior doctors said the government plans for a seven-day NHS,
:30:29. > :30:31.fully staffed, will put patients at risk.
:30:32. > :30:34.Are people with them or against them?
:30:35. > :30:40.Footballers kick a ball for 90 minutes and get paid lots
:30:41. > :30:45.but doctors work overnight and they get paid nothing.
:30:46. > :30:51.The NHS was being cut back all the while and staff
:30:52. > :30:53.are being made to suffer, more pressure is being put
:30:54. > :31:06.They work very hard and don't get a lot of the support and respect
:31:07. > :31:10.Take a ball and pop it in the support box.
:31:11. > :31:12.I suppose being near Saint Thomas's Hospital,
:31:13. > :31:15.it was inevitable we would get some doctors and patients
:31:16. > :31:17.but it is interesting which way round their views are.
:31:18. > :31:19.We are late for a hospital appointment.
:31:20. > :31:21.Are you for or against the junior doctors strike?
:31:22. > :31:28.It is not just doctors, they will target all
:31:29. > :31:38.It is easy for MPs, they work 9-5, they have a 60% pay rise.
:31:39. > :31:40.We work our as is off for our patients.
:31:41. > :31:44.I really care for our patients and I think it is a very wrong way
:31:45. > :31:48.The government is saying is is better pay.
:31:49. > :31:50.The doctors are saying it is worse pay.
:31:51. > :31:53.To be honest, a seven-day national health is what we need.
:31:54. > :31:55.At the weekend, and you have a problem, you cannot
:31:56. > :32:05.The junior doctors strike tomorrow, are you broadly in favour
:32:06. > :32:10.Because they are an essential service and you should not mess
:32:11. > :32:28.The NHS is already struggling. I think it does dramatically affect
:32:29. > :32:32.pay and it is shameful to pretend it is not important. As a junior
:32:33. > :32:44.doctor, take the ball and pop it in the support box.
:32:45. > :32:52.We always say this and we shared. It is not scientific, its location may
:32:53. > :33:01.have helped, but it is very clear that more people are in support of
:33:02. > :33:05.the junior doctors than our against. There you have it, according to our
:33:06. > :33:09.very scientific mood box. The majority of people back the junior
:33:10. > :33:15.doctors. It is right, we should support them, and letting them
:33:16. > :33:20.continue to do unsafe ours is not supporting them, and exploitation is
:33:21. > :33:24.that this government is trying to look at. In terms of the changes to
:33:25. > :33:31.the way this happen, I am disappointed. People are upset at
:33:32. > :33:36.being at this point, and if you want to see a doctor tomorrow, you will
:33:37. > :33:41.be concerned. Let's hope some sanity prevails, and hopefully, everybody
:33:42. > :33:46.can come back to the table and avert this. 11% overall is mainly how
:33:47. > :33:50.people will be better off. There will be the majority of doctors in a
:33:51. > :33:55.better position. Sadly, what ever happened in terms of a communication
:33:56. > :34:00.breakdown is concerned. On the government side as well? From my
:34:01. > :34:05.understanding, and I have had junior doctors coming into my local
:34:06. > :34:10.surgeries, and when I have spoken to them, they did not have a full
:34:11. > :34:14.handle on this. I hope that before people go on strike tomorrow, they
:34:15. > :34:19.are clear on how it affects them. Has the government handled it well?
:34:20. > :34:24.In a strike, everybody will say no, but we are not in that position,
:34:25. > :34:27.there are some hours to go, but I think there is an impasse here, and
:34:28. > :34:31.ultimately we should not be allowing them to do 70 or 80 hours a week in
:34:32. > :34:40.that kind of role without support. The government needs a look at it.
:34:41. > :34:43.You don't support the strike? Looking at the individual situation,
:34:44. > :34:47.I would not like to see the strike. They have valid concerns? Yes,
:34:48. > :34:54.speaking to some doctors, I'm not sure they have the full. Let them
:34:55. > :34:59.look at that fully tonight. Do you support the doctors going on strike?
:35:00. > :35:03.I believe they have no other option. They have been treated appallingly
:35:04. > :35:06.and if I was in my constituency, rather than in Parliament tomorrow,
:35:07. > :35:11.I would be on the local picket line. I would encourage viewers to go down
:35:12. > :35:15.to the picket line and asked junior doctors why they feel they have had
:35:16. > :35:19.no other option than to go on strike. It troubles me when she says
:35:20. > :35:23.that these junior doctors do not have a full handle on it. It
:35:24. > :35:27.troubles me when Jeremy Hunt was saying in the House of Commons that
:35:28. > :35:32.they did not understand. These are educated people and they have not
:35:33. > :35:36.been misled by the BMA. They know that they have been backed into a
:35:37. > :35:43.corner. For the first time in 40 years they feel necessary to go on
:35:44. > :35:48.strike. It could put patients' lives at risk. The action by the BMA, it
:35:49. > :35:54.is set, will lead to patients suffering. -- it is said. All
:35:55. > :35:59.essential life-saving operations will take place. Not in that all
:36:00. > :36:08.essential life-saving operations will take late to stop -- not in
:36:09. > :36:19.February. People's lives will not be put at risk by this strike. Is it
:36:20. > :36:27.responsible for the momentum linked to Jeremy Corbyn's leadership
:36:28. > :36:30.telling activists to turn out on the picket line tomorrow, isn't that
:36:31. > :36:37.really a return to the militants days of the 1980s? What I said was I
:36:38. > :36:42.encourage viewers, the public, to visit picket lines and asked junior
:36:43. > :36:51.doctors to the natural why they are going on strike. There is nothing
:36:52. > :36:56.wrong or strange for members of the public to take cups of tea and cake
:36:57. > :37:01.down to the picket line and asking junior doctors what they think. That
:37:02. > :37:03.is the key thing. We have heard what politicians, Jeremy Hunt, think
:37:04. > :37:09.about it, let's hear from the junior doctors, and then make up your mind.
:37:10. > :37:16.Was the language used by Jeremy Hunt correct when he said he would impose
:37:17. > :37:20.these new contracts on junior doctors? It upset a lot of them on
:37:21. > :37:25.this programme. The language in this is important, and if that ultimately
:37:26. > :37:29.is what is pulling people apart, that is a problem. It is much
:37:30. > :37:34.broader than just language. Has it led to a breakdown in trust? There
:37:35. > :37:39.has not been a great deal of trust on both sides as has been mentioned
:37:40. > :37:43.from day one, but the reality is that if we want the seven-day NHS
:37:44. > :37:52.service... Doctors say that exist already. We need to make sure it is
:37:53. > :37:55.safe across the week and is safe for doctors, and... Should they have
:37:56. > :38:00.more money and funding? That is when they said they would consider these
:38:01. > :38:04.changes, if more resistors are put into the NHS. I think we committed
:38:05. > :38:09.where Labour couldn't and put the into the NHS. I think we committed
:38:10. > :38:13.money where our mouth is. Everybody wants changes in the NHS, an
:38:14. > :38:15.individual service, but ultimately, it is a big thing to turn
:38:16. > :38:20.the junior doctors are very keen in what gets delivered and it will be a
:38:21. > :38:25.real disappointment we cannot keep them on site. I want them to be in
:38:26. > :38:26.safe working conditions and I want them to feel supported
:38:27. > :38:30.safe working conditions and I want government and an 11% pay rise is
:38:31. > :38:31.safe working conditions and I want significant. The losing elsewhere
:38:32. > :38:40.because they won't be able to charge overtime rate. -- they are losing.
:38:41. > :38:45.They have to be very flexible, they have to stay on, you have to do all
:38:46. > :38:48.sorts, and ultimately, what we are offering them is a better deal about
:38:49. > :38:53.how to plan... Except they offering them is a better deal about
:38:54. > :38:57.seem to agree with that. There is a lot of evidence that patients who
:38:58. > :39:01.are admitted to hospital surgery lot of evidence that patients who
:39:02. > :39:02.have an 11% higher mortality rate at the weekend than during the week.
:39:03. > :39:10.That has to the weekend than during the week.
:39:11. > :39:15.service offered by junior doc is. -- doctors. Nobody proposes that things
:39:16. > :39:18.should remain the same for ever. The NHS after do a fantastic job but we
:39:19. > :39:22.always have to look at ways to improve it. The sad truth is that
:39:23. > :39:26.junior doctors have lost trust in the Tory government, that is a big
:39:27. > :39:34.deal. You are not going to further improve and NHS service... Should
:39:35. > :39:39.they be working at the weekend? A study in 2012 of 14 million hospital
:39:40. > :39:45.admissions, patients had a 60% greater risk of death on a Sunday
:39:46. > :39:50.than a Wednesday. You say there should be reformed, should they be
:39:51. > :39:54.expected to work more at weekends? Nothing is going to change if Jeremy
:39:55. > :39:59.Hunt and the Tory government acts like dictators to junior doctors to
:40:00. > :40:03.go into that job to help people and make people better. Should they work
:40:04. > :40:10.more at weekends? An agreement should be reached. Between the
:40:11. > :40:13.government and the BMA and junior doctors. The reason why it has not
:40:14. > :40:17.been reached is because junior doctors have lost trust in the Tory
:40:18. > :40:21.government and because the junior doctors have been treated with
:40:22. > :40:29.disrespect either government, that is my view and it is sad. Jeremy
:40:30. > :40:37.Hunt is a dictator, it is said. Having sat in his office, he wants
:40:38. > :40:40.to see a better NHS and where are the patients in this? Let's talk
:40:41. > :40:44.about them. Actually, if you do go into hospital at the weekend, and
:40:45. > :40:50.somebody has than 70 hours per week and is frazzled, we need to support
:40:51. > :40:54.these people, and we need to support all the people working in the NHS as
:40:55. > :40:57.people do expect a seven-day service, and otherwise as a
:40:58. > :41:00.government we are picking up the pieces of not getting it right or
:41:01. > :41:04.dealing with this issue. As Richard said, it is not going to go away.
:41:05. > :41:13.Every mother and father should have access to parenting lessons. That is
:41:14. > :41:15.according to David Cameron. He's just given a speech
:41:16. > :41:17.in which he claims he could have done with more advice raising
:41:18. > :41:19.children. The classes are part
:41:20. > :41:22.of a new package of measures which include more support
:41:23. > :41:24.for teenagers who suffer from eating disorders and more funding
:41:25. > :41:26.for mental health. This is what I would call
:41:27. > :41:29.a life-cycle approach. One that takes people
:41:30. > :41:31.from their earliest years through schooling,
:41:32. > :41:33.adolescence and adult life. And I believe that if we take
:41:34. > :41:36.the right action in each of these four areas, combined
:41:37. > :41:38.with what we are doing to bring our economy back to health,
:41:39. > :41:41.we can make a significant impact on poverty and on disadvantage
:41:42. > :41:52.in our country. This is part of a broad range of
:41:53. > :41:55.proposals that David Cameron has spoken about, but Norman Lamb, the
:41:56. > :42:00.former coalition Health Minister, said the proposals fall short of the
:42:01. > :42:05.vision we published as a Coalition Government in 2014. I am
:42:06. > :42:09.disappointed to hear that and I think 400 million into the health
:42:10. > :42:15.service, and the parity we are giving... Is it money? I hope so,
:42:16. > :42:18.and I think it is money in the right place because in my constituency
:42:19. > :42:24.office I have had various people with postnasal issues and problems
:42:25. > :42:28.with their teenagers who need support. -- postnatal. Would you
:42:29. > :42:33.agree with Norman Lamb that it would be smoke and mirrors on behalf of
:42:34. > :42:38.David Cameron if this is not additional resources into this area?
:42:39. > :42:42.It is worth questioning, I agree. Absolutely, if you need therapy,
:42:43. > :42:46.health, mental health services, beds, there should be something for
:42:47. > :42:50.you. When I have visited the Ambulance Services in Hampshire,
:42:51. > :42:57.they have mental health workers within their community building. We
:42:58. > :43:01.need that parity. Should there be parity? Should they be dealt with in
:43:02. > :43:06.exactly the same way, mental and physical health? Absolutely because
:43:07. > :43:11.otherwise as a community and families, we pick up the pieces,
:43:12. > :43:18.whether it comes to crime, family breakdown, harm, absolutely right.
:43:19. > :43:21.As pressures in life get bigger... You are questioning whether this is
:43:22. > :43:28.new money or not, Norman Lamb think it is not. ?140 million that the
:43:29. > :43:34.prime and is to revamp 100 estates, that they drop in the ocean. Having
:43:35. > :43:39.been a councillor, and seeing how we design housing differently to what
:43:40. > :43:43.we have now, it is recognition by the prime and is that we need to do
:43:44. > :43:48.things differently. Will ?140 million pay for the revamp of the
:43:49. > :43:51.estates? There was a lot you can do with community help and you do not
:43:52. > :43:59.need to spend a lot of money to make changes in communities. I have been
:44:00. > :44:04.involved in local litter picking. You cannot do that with ?140
:44:05. > :44:09.million. It does not need to be that expensive. If you give people pride
:44:10. > :44:14.in their community, take the bad issues away, it can make a change.
:44:15. > :44:18.Of course. Let's talk about the parenting but I am sure it will be
:44:19. > :44:22.targeted and make the right changes in the right areas. Doing nothing is
:44:23. > :44:26.not the right thing to do. Is should be a lot more if you tackle it
:44:27. > :44:31.properly. There is no free cheque-book. That is a great amount
:44:32. > :44:36.of money to put into a targeted area and in terms of mental health
:44:37. > :44:42.issues, I believe whether Prime Minister says it is going. Is it
:44:43. > :44:50.insulting to suggest that everybody needs parenting classes? No, I could
:44:51. > :44:54.do somes with some myself! -- with some. I am happy to go and I
:44:55. > :44:57.certainly know that having a first and second child, I know the
:44:58. > :45:02.challenges it puts on relationship, the changes where it comes to
:45:03. > :45:05.schools, the issues with social media that our children have, I
:45:06. > :45:10.think we need to look at how we parents better. We are dealing with
:45:11. > :45:18.the impacts of not great parenting. Should be more targeted then?
:45:19. > :45:26.It is no bad thing to say this is something there is no textbook for.
:45:27. > :45:30.All children are different. Let's share our ideas. What next you and
:45:31. > :45:35.the government so confident that people will take up this offer. You
:45:36. > :45:40.may be right that everyone needs parenting classes. You have piloted
:45:41. > :45:50.it before but only 4% of eligible parents took it up. Dead they say
:45:51. > :45:54.you can bend a stick much easier than a large oak. -- don't they say?
:45:55. > :45:59.Will people take it up? I think if everybody is doing it. If it is
:46:00. > :46:04.targeted, it is that you are the problem and you might be a rubbish
:46:05. > :46:08.parent. The social media aspects, the bullying and pressure that our
:46:09. > :46:12.kids have that I never had, I certainly want to know how to manage
:46:13. > :46:20.those issues and I will be in a room with anyone to do that. It sounds
:46:21. > :46:24.like the nanny state, especially from a conservative perspective.
:46:25. > :46:28.Would you support it? I think there is no greater responsibility than
:46:29. > :46:34.bringing a child into the world. Any response you can get is wonderful. I
:46:35. > :46:39.think about how things have changed since I was a child. Social media,
:46:40. > :46:43.online bullying, the way the world has changed, means that the help and
:46:44. > :46:49.advice that can be given now would not be the same advice you had 20
:46:50. > :46:53.years ago. So you would support the idea and open to everybody? I think
:46:54. > :46:59.it sounds like a welcome step. However, I think a lot of these
:47:00. > :47:03.things are linked. I was speaking to a GP in my constituency and he said
:47:04. > :47:06.all these things are linked. He has noticed an increase in mental health
:47:07. > :47:14.problems, as unemployment went up and job security went down and a
:47:15. > :47:20.lack of housing. Implement has not gone up? It has gone up
:47:21. > :47:23.historically. The lack of housing and council housing affects people's
:47:24. > :47:27.mental health so we need the government to look at the whole
:47:28. > :47:29.picture to address these issues. Thank you.
:47:30. > :47:32.The gloves are off in the race to be Mayor of London,
:47:33. > :47:34.and the fight's not looking that pretty.
:47:35. > :47:36.Let's take a look, starting with the Conservative's Zac Goldsmith
:47:37. > :47:41.What I was referring to when I described him as a radical
:47:42. > :47:44.candidate, as part of a radical process that has enveloped
:47:45. > :47:45.the Labour Party and taken our politics
:47:46. > :47:48.We have now an opposition party which is
:47:49. > :47:50.more extreme than at any time in my lifetime.
:47:51. > :47:52.You have got post-Paris particularly people being concerned
:47:53. > :47:55.at a rise in Islamophobia and anti-Semitism in the last year
:47:56. > :47:58.or so, to call somebody who is clearly of Islamic faith
:47:59. > :48:00.and with a name like Sadiq Khan,
:48:01. > :48:04.divisive and radical, to have one of your volunteers using
:48:05. > :48:07.pejorative language to describe me as that Muslim candidate
:48:08. > :48:24.It has got nasty. It was always going to get nasty. This is the
:48:25. > :48:27.closest we get to a presidential election. Londoners have anywhere
:48:28. > :48:30.can add to it this month. The candidates were out at the back end
:48:31. > :48:35.of last year but you are right, the gloves are coming off. We do not
:48:36. > :48:40.know when the referendum will be but we do know we will get a vote on the
:48:41. > :48:44.mayor. What is your hunch on it at this point? My hunch is Zac
:48:45. > :48:48.Goldsmith has got to outperform the party. If you look at what happened
:48:49. > :48:52.in the last election, London was one of the few places where Labour did
:48:53. > :48:57.well. You would say Mr Khan is in, he is in at City Hall. But we never
:48:58. > :49:08.went Boris Johnson was in this place first time around, he
:49:09. > :49:11.was eight or nine points below Ken Livingstone. He outperform the party
:49:12. > :49:14.and in the last election he radically outperformed the party.
:49:15. > :49:16.That is what Zac Goldsmith has got to do. The fact that people turn out
:49:17. > :49:19.in the boroughs of Croydon and Bexley, the ladies in particular and
:49:20. > :49:26.they go out and vote, will that happen? Is it again battle between
:49:27. > :49:31.inner and outer? I think it probably is. What you have to remember about
:49:32. > :49:36.the Zac Goldsmith is, if you go to his constituency in Richmond, those
:49:37. > :49:40.who know him, my god he gets the vote out. They virtually weighed the
:49:41. > :49:45.vote, that is how popular he is. If you have exposure to him, he is a
:49:46. > :49:48.strong candidate. He has not been out and about as much as Mr
:49:49. > :49:58.strong candidate. He has not been so he has probably got to get out
:49:59. > :50:01.there. Is it setting pulses racing, this contest? It is probably just
:50:02. > :50:05.for the village at the moment but it probably will. The line that will
:50:06. > :50:05.roar is housing. Kids getting on the housing
:50:06. > :50:12.roar is housing. Kids getting on the That will be the key issue. In terms
:50:13. > :50:15.of airport expansion for instance, where does that set someone like
:50:16. > :50:19.of airport expansion for instance, that Goldsmith with the party? As
:50:20. > :50:20.you know, the criticism of fudging the issue by airport expansion by
:50:21. > :50:24.the government is because people the issue by airport expansion by
:50:25. > :50:27.saying they're waiting to see the outcome of this particular contest.
:50:28. > :50:33.saying they're waiting to see the This has to be true. Remember know
:50:34. > :50:38.is, no buts, no third runway. I think the Prime Minister probably
:50:39. > :50:39.regrets those words. If there is a third runway, it
:50:40. > :50:46.regrets those words. If there is a If you have Zac Goldsmith in City
:50:47. > :50:50.Hall and then it is delayed, there will be one heck of a fight. It will
:50:51. > :50:56.be between Zac and will be one heck of a fight. It will
:50:57. > :51:01.Khan's relationship with the Labour Party and Jeremy Corbyn? I did think
:51:02. > :51:05.you will see a lot of Mr Corbyn alongside Sadiq Khan. Equally, I do
:51:06. > :51:10.think he will see Mr Cameron alongside Zac Goldsmith. If you look
:51:11. > :51:15.at the previous mayors, they are all mavericks. London likes Mavericks. A
:51:16. > :51:20.party man or woman ain't going to fly. Do you think
:51:21. > :51:25.party man or woman ain't going to mavericks? Zac can be a maverick. He
:51:26. > :51:31.stared down a Prime Minister. I think he's his own man. Don't know
:51:32. > :51:38.Sadiq Khan as well as I know Zac Goldsmith. He has a very strong back
:51:39. > :51:41.story. The son of a bus strive opposed to a multi
:51:42. > :51:52.story. The son of a bus strive financier. -- a bus driver. You are
:51:53. > :51:53.in the shadow Treasury team, what is your view? No one wants to see
:51:54. > :51:57.in the shadow Treasury team, what is businesses go down but I think Nick
:51:58. > :52:01.is correct when he says the big issue in this London mayoral
:52:02. > :52:04.election is the housing crisis in London. Housing prices have gone up,
:52:05. > :52:08.there are not enough council houses so people in London will have to
:52:09. > :52:13.decide, is it Zac Goldsmith or Sadiq Khan who are best qualified and best
:52:14. > :52:17.placed to solve the housing crisis in London. I believe that Sadiq Khan
:52:18. > :52:25.is best placed if you look at it objectively. You did not answer my
:52:26. > :52:30.question about business taxes. Do you agree with Sadiq Khan that there
:52:31. > :52:34.should not be further taxes placed on business? I did think he said
:52:35. > :52:41.that. He is against further taxes being put on business and wants to
:52:42. > :52:45.be the most business friendly mayor. Labour is not anti-business. The
:52:46. > :52:53.Treasury team is not anti-business. We need to make sure we have a
:52:54. > :52:58.thriving City of London, a thriving city that is properly regulated and
:52:59. > :53:03.responsible and the benefits of that economic success are shared by all,
:53:04. > :53:08.not only in London but across the country as well. In terms of the
:53:09. > :53:14.public interest, what will set it alight? When we start having the
:53:15. > :53:18.debates. The first one we did on LBC was called the risk in the lift when
:53:19. > :53:23.Ken Livingstone and Boris Johnson actively clashed. You know Boris
:53:24. > :53:28.Johnson as well as I do. He is a hugely fun guy, but imagine sharing
:53:29. > :53:34.the debate, Boris Johnson would not even engage with the other people.
:53:35. > :53:41.He was so hacked off. That gave it a lot of energy. They were really
:53:42. > :53:48.slugging it out. We need to see the two going at each other. That will
:53:49. > :53:58.get the energy going. Who are they actively hoping to get out there?
:53:59. > :54:02.Boris will be key. Boris is an extraordinary politician. He cuts
:54:03. > :54:06.through everything. I did a day in the life with Boris and what is
:54:07. > :54:10.fascinating, old fat middle-aged white men like me, young funky Asian
:54:11. > :54:19.guys, elderly black women, everybody Rafa nights -- gravitates. It is
:54:20. > :54:24.extraordinary the pulling power. Quite to cuts through for Labour, I
:54:25. > :54:27.cannot immediately think of a box office Labour politician. I did
:54:28. > :54:33.believe in celebrity politics. I think what is key is getting as many
:54:34. > :54:37.Labour activists out there, as many people in the London who support
:54:38. > :54:43.Labour and support Sadiq Khan. I think we need reminding of the
:54:44. > :54:55.opportunity for Zac Goldsmith to work the Conservative majority.
:54:56. > :55:02.Labour are in such peril when it comes to their own party. London is
:55:03. > :55:03.seen as they Labour city. Boris has not turned around the housing
:55:04. > :55:10.crisis. He is dealing with it. "Chameleon, comedian,
:55:11. > :55:11.Corinthian and caricature". That was David Bowie in his own
:55:12. > :55:14.words from the Hunky Dory album. This morning words such as legend,
:55:15. > :55:24.inspiration and genius were added People around the world have paid
:55:25. > :55:30.tribute to the British rock god who has died of cancer at the age of 69.
:55:31. > :55:32.Two who paid tribute were David Cameron and Jeremy Corbyn.
:55:33. > :55:35.Today we are mourning the loss of an immense British talent.
:55:36. > :55:37.Genius is an overused word, but I think
:55:38. > :55:39.musically, creatively, artistically, David Bowie was a genius.
:55:40. > :55:41.For someone of my age, he provided a lot
:55:42. > :55:44.of the soundtrack of our lives, from the first time I heard
:55:45. > :55:46.Space Oddity, to watching our athletes appear in those wonderful
:55:47. > :55:53.I think it's great we're spending time, just a few minutes,
:55:54. > :55:55.remembering a great musician and entertainer
:55:56. > :55:58.and somebody who represents all that is best
:55:59. > :56:01.in the fantastic cultural diversity in our country.
:56:02. > :56:03.I cannot think of David Bowie without thinking Life On Mars,
:56:04. > :56:07.and as soon is I heard of his death, very sad, Life On Mars
:56:08. > :56:26.Jeremy Corbyn there. One of the many tributes made today. He was iconic.
:56:27. > :56:30.Your memories of David Bowie? The soundtrack of the nation has become
:56:31. > :56:34.a lot duller. Before I came into this world I was a showbiz reporter
:56:35. > :56:38.for the Sun newspaper and I used to chase pop stars like Duran Duran,
:56:39. > :56:42.boy George and Madonna all around the world. Sometimes you write
:56:43. > :56:45.disobliging stories about people, sometimes you are rather disobliging
:56:46. > :56:47.in the reviews of their work, possibly who they are dating or you
:56:48. > :57:03.may take your journalistic licence a little
:57:04. > :57:05.too far. Once, because it was a slow news day, I suggested, because I had
:57:06. > :57:08.seen him having lunch with Eric idle, that David Bowie would become
:57:09. > :57:11.a Monty Python. This was that the Cannes Film Festival. I did not have
:57:12. > :57:13.much in the paper so we made this story up. It was stretching it and
:57:14. > :57:18.then unbelievably, news came through that David Bowie would grant you an
:57:19. > :57:24.interview. This was in the early 80s. You must have been overwhelmed!
:57:25. > :57:31.No one ever spoke to me! I sat down, what a great bloke. I was about to
:57:32. > :57:37.ask a question and he said, you are from the Son. You wrote a story
:57:38. > :57:45.about me suggesting I would be in Monty Python. Where did you get it
:57:46. > :57:49.from? He said, as long as it gets you through the night, fair enough.
:57:50. > :57:56.What do you want to ask me? What a great sense of humour! Was it
:57:57. > :58:00.the soundtrack of your youth? I was born in 1987 it is not break all to
:58:01. > :58:06.say the first memory of David Bowie was going to the cinema when I was
:58:07. > :58:11.six years old to see Labyrinth. I think one of his most overlooked
:58:12. > :58:20.albums was Tin cat macro machine, nice and heavy, from 1989. Tin
:58:21. > :58:23.Machine is a fantastic album. I'm sorry, I cannot give you a chance to
:58:24. > :58:26.talk about David Bowie. There's just time before we go
:58:27. > :58:29.to find out the answer to our quiz. The question was about
:58:30. > :58:31.Jeremy Corbyn's Twitter account What did the hackers
:58:32. > :58:38.called David Cameron. So Richard and Mims,
:58:39. > :58:45.what's the correct answer? A pie is the right answer. I don't
:58:46. > :58:49.know why. The One o'clock News is starting
:58:50. > :58:54.over on BBC One now. I'll be here at noon tomorrow
:58:55. > :58:57.with all the big political stories Now we can dance, if you would like
:58:58. > :59:02.to. A new BBC Two comedy panel show
:59:03. > :59:05.all about people. Each week, everyone we talk about
:59:06. > :59:07.will share the same names. Promise it's very simple -
:59:08. > :59:10.not at all confusing. # Tracey, Tracey
:59:11. > :59:18.Tracey Ullman's Show. # I'm Dame Maggie Smith and
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