27/04/2016

:00:35. > :00:39.The Labour Party is facing a fresh row over anti-semitism after one

:00:40. > :00:49.of its MPs posted controversial remarks about Israel and the Jews.

:00:50. > :00:53.Naz Shah has apologised for Facebook posts she made before becoming an MP

:00:54. > :00:57.supporting the deportation of all Israeli Jews to America.

:00:58. > :00:59.She's stepped down as a Parliamentary aide to the Shadow

:01:00. > :01:07.Junior doctors are staging their second all-out strike -

:01:08. > :01:11.walking out of routine and emergency care.

:01:12. > :01:14.But the Government insists it won't back down.

:01:15. > :01:21.So there's plenty for MPs to quiz the Prime Minister on.

:01:22. > :01:26.We'll have full coverage of PMQs at midday.

:01:27. > :01:28.And, while we're on the subject of PMQs, Jeremy Corbyn said

:01:29. > :01:31.he wanted to make the weekly bout less confrontational.

:01:32. > :01:43.All that in the next hour and a half, and with us for the whole

:01:44. > :01:45.of the programme today the Shadow Energy Secretary Lisa

:01:46. > :01:47.Nandy, and the former Defence Secretary Liam Fox.

:01:48. > :01:49.Both Lisa and Liam have been tipped as future

:01:50. > :01:58.Although, now I've said that, it probably won't come to pass!

:01:59. > :02:01.However, without wishing to go too far, the next 90 minutes could play

:02:02. > :02:04.a key role in shaping the future of British politics...

:02:05. > :02:16.junior doctors in England have begun their second

:02:17. > :02:20.Once again senior doctors and other medical staff are having

:02:21. > :02:23.Junior doctors are staging the walk-out over the imposition

:02:24. > :02:27.Ministers say the change is required to provide safe

:02:28. > :02:31.Let's talk now to our Health Correspondent Smitha Mundasad

:02:32. > :02:40.who at St Thomas' Hospital in central London.

:02:41. > :02:48.The second day, and is the atmosphere and resilience the same

:02:49. > :02:52.as yesterday? The picket line behind me with a drum out here today, and I

:02:53. > :02:56.have been told that there few doctors on the picket line today

:02:57. > :03:00.that -- but the passion is still running high. The message is the

:03:01. > :03:05.same, that the contract is not fair and they will not accept it. The

:03:06. > :03:08.Department of Health have said that around 78% of junior doctors did not

:03:09. > :03:15.turn up for work yesterday which could be around one in five crossing

:03:16. > :03:18.the picket line. What has the impact been? Hospitals around the country

:03:19. > :03:22.have told us they coped very well. Some said that their accident and

:03:23. > :03:26.emergency departments were less busy than usual and perhaps the public

:03:27. > :03:29.heeded warnings not to come in unless it was a genuine emergency,

:03:30. > :03:35.but the question remains today whether more patients will turn up

:03:36. > :03:40.and the really big question is where both sides go from here. It feels

:03:41. > :03:46.very much like neither side is budging from their sticking points.

:03:47. > :03:50.Are they saying, the doctors you spoke to, that they would consider

:03:51. > :03:56.an indefinite walk-out if the government does not give in to their

:03:57. > :04:00.demands? They have been saying that all options are on the table. Some

:04:01. > :04:03.said to me that they brought their babies with them on the picket line

:04:04. > :04:08.and said, look, I have a family to think about and I don't know what to

:04:09. > :04:12.do if his contract lands on my door. Others say they might go abroad.

:04:13. > :04:17.Scotland and Wales are not imposing the contract, and there has been

:04:18. > :04:21.some talk of indefinite strikes, but hospital managers, one I spoke to

:04:22. > :04:24.yesterday, he said he did not feel the NHS could cope with an

:04:25. > :04:29.indefinite strike. The truth is that junior doctors have had to rely on

:04:30. > :04:33.the goodwill of senior staff to cover for them, and the question is

:04:34. > :04:36.how long will the goodwill stretch. Thank you very much.

:04:37. > :04:43.Liam Fox, used to be a doctor. The health service is already stretched

:04:44. > :04:50.doing what it does at the moment. How can you go to a seven day per

:04:51. > :04:54.week all up service with no more money? This has been one of the

:04:55. > :05:03.things that has come the entire dispute. --, located the entire

:05:04. > :05:09.dispute. It is not really defined in what the seven-day NHS was. Are we

:05:10. > :05:14.talking about a seven-day emergency NHS where we think it is patchy and

:05:15. > :05:17.needs improvement? We have always had a seven-day NHS, but are we

:05:18. > :05:21.talking about a seven-day elective NHS that does everything on a

:05:22. > :05:24.Saturday and Sunday, which you cannot simply deal with with more

:05:25. > :05:30.doctors because you need the ancillary and support staff. I have

:05:31. > :05:32.been asking questions about this and the Secretary of State has made it

:05:33. > :05:35.increasingly clear that we are talking about an emergency service

:05:36. > :05:40.and it shouldn't be that difficult to implement if you are just

:05:41. > :05:45.improving what we already have got and you are not moving to a full

:05:46. > :05:49.service. Are you saying that the government policy, as you understand

:05:50. > :05:53.it, is simply to provide better emergency cover? It already provides

:05:54. > :05:58.emergency cover at weekends. Are you saying the policy is simply to

:05:59. > :06:01.improve the scope and level of emergency cover? And to improve

:06:02. > :06:06.access to general practice. It's a different concept to move into a

:06:07. > :06:11.full elective service. What underlies this dispute is this

:06:12. > :06:17.misunderstanding about what it is we're trying to achieve. Greater

:06:18. > :06:20.clarity is setting out the policy from the outset, that would have

:06:21. > :06:24.been helpful. But to be fair, on the other side, we need to have an

:06:25. > :06:29.understanding that this is about pay and conditions and I don't believe

:06:30. > :06:34.any dispute about pay and conditions justifies putting patients at risk.

:06:35. > :06:38.Perhaps if the government had given more clarity, she said, from the

:06:39. > :06:43.start, we wouldn't be where we are now. Even if we had that, we still

:06:44. > :06:46.have the dispute about pay and conditions. There is another problem

:06:47. > :06:52.and we have to be frank about it, the NHS has had not enough doctors

:06:53. > :06:56.since its inception. The problem is exacerbated now by the fact that you

:06:57. > :07:01.have more elderly patients with more comics medical needs and you require

:07:02. > :07:04.more doctors to just stand still, as you were, in terms of the quality of

:07:05. > :07:09.patient treatment and we have to accept that we have a finite budget

:07:10. > :07:13.and we have to decide what the priorities are. We need a proper

:07:14. > :07:18.grown-up debate in this country because what medical sciences able

:07:19. > :07:22.to do is growing exponentially. Even if we are giving a substantial

:07:23. > :07:27.increase in funding we need a much better quality debate than we get in

:07:28. > :07:33.this country. Lisa, am I behind the curve, or is what Liam Fox said News

:07:34. > :07:38.to you as well? That this is just down to providing better emergency

:07:39. > :07:41.cover at weekends? It was news to me because this has changed over the

:07:42. > :07:46.course of the last few months and is changing it seems on a daily basis.

:07:47. > :07:51.The point Liam made was important because it's not clear what the

:07:52. > :07:55.government is now imposing on junior doctors. Because it's not clear what

:07:56. > :08:02.they are imposing it is not clear what the impact will be on them and

:08:03. > :08:06.patient safety. That is why we said earlier in the week, backed by the

:08:07. > :08:10.Royal colleges, that they should be piloted in a number of trusts and we

:08:11. > :08:14.could see the impact. Any sensible government would do it. We did it

:08:15. > :08:18.when we brought in a new covenant -- when we brought in a new contract.

:08:19. > :08:19.We shall see, it is an ongoing dispute.

:08:20. > :08:21.Naz Shah, the Labour MP for Bradford West,

:08:22. > :08:24.has stepped down from her role as a parliamentary aide to

:08:25. > :08:26.the Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell after controversial Facebook

:08:27. > :08:27.comments about Israel were unearthed.

:08:28. > :08:30.Miss Shah has also apologised over the Facebook post from 2014

:08:31. > :08:36.in which she called for Israel to be relocated to the USA.

:08:37. > :08:40.In August 2014, Naz Shah shared a graphic showing Israel's outline

:08:41. > :08:47.superimposed onto a map of the US with the comment "problem solved".

:08:48. > :08:53.And the following month she shared an image of a man

:08:54. > :08:55.with a number around his neck with the words "Never forget that

:08:56. > :08:58.everything Hitler did in Germany was legal" and the hashtag

:08:59. > :09:02.Yesterday the Bradford West MP,

:09:03. > :09:04.who was elected in May 2015, resigned from her position

:09:05. > :09:33.Ms Shah said: to shadow Chancellor John McDonnell.

:09:34. > :09:36.Well, we asked Naz Shah for an interview but she declined.

:09:37. > :09:37.We also contacted John McDonnell's office.

:09:38. > :09:41.to the statement he made yesterday saying he had accepted Miss Shah's

:09:42. > :09:42.resignation as his parliamentary aide.

:09:43. > :09:46.We also asked the Labour Party for a statement.

:09:47. > :09:56.Why has the whip not been withdrawn from her? My understanding is that

:09:57. > :10:01.Naz Shah has been called in to hold her to account for the comments she

:10:02. > :10:05.posted there and I think it's the right thing to do. Hold her to

:10:06. > :10:11.account? Do you expect her to have the whip with withdrawn? We have a

:10:12. > :10:16.policy in the Labour Party that people who make anti-Semitic remarks

:10:17. > :10:19.are suspended and an investigation is carried out. I don't want to

:10:20. > :10:23.pre-empt the outcome of the conversation that Jeremy is about to

:10:24. > :10:28.have but I have made clear my view to the office that the policy should

:10:29. > :10:32.be followed without exception. You would say that quite clearly those

:10:33. > :10:36.anti-Semitic remarks, never forget that everything Hitler did in

:10:37. > :10:42.Germany it was legal, with that hash tag. We heard views from the Jewish

:10:43. > :10:46.community today who found the remarks offensive. Do you not find

:10:47. > :10:49.them offensive? I do, and I think it was wrong to share those posts on

:10:50. > :10:54.social media and I think she was right to resign and apologise.

:10:55. > :10:57.Resigning as an aid is not the same as being suspended from the party.

:10:58. > :11:02.The party has suspended other people for saying similar things, so why

:11:03. > :11:07.are they not using that zero tolerance approach with an MP? I

:11:08. > :11:11.agree with you and I made that clear to the leader 's office this

:11:12. > :11:16.morning. As Louise Ellman, one of the most high-profile Jewish MPs

:11:17. > :11:18.said in the media this weekend, the vast majority of members of the

:11:19. > :11:24.Labour Party are not anti-Semitic and Avevor these views. It is really

:11:25. > :11:27.important that we make that clear to the country and give the Jewish

:11:28. > :11:31.community and the rest of the country the confidence that we take

:11:32. > :11:36.it seriously. This is a statement that has come from the Labour Party.

:11:37. > :11:41.What Naz Shah did was offensive and unacceptable and I have spoken to

:11:42. > :11:45.him -- her and made it clear. These are historic social media posts made

:11:46. > :11:48.before she was a member of Parliament. Naz Shah has issued a

:11:49. > :11:51.fulsome apology, she does not hold these views and accepts she was

:11:52. > :11:55.completely wrong to have made these posts. The Labour Party is

:11:56. > :11:59.implacably opposed to anti-Semitism and all forms of racism. That

:12:00. > :12:02.doesn't look like she will have the whip withdrawn. All I can say is

:12:03. > :12:05.that when I spoke to the leaders offers this morning they said she

:12:06. > :12:09.was being called in to see Jeromy personally and he was handling it

:12:10. > :12:13.personally, which is right as the leader of the Labour Party. Do you

:12:14. > :12:16.think she should have the whip withdrawn? I've made clear my view

:12:17. > :12:20.on the leader 's office that we should suspend anybody who makes

:12:21. > :12:24.anti-Semitic remarks in line with our policy and investigate. I don't

:12:25. > :12:29.want to pre-empt the outcome of it an investigation. We know this

:12:30. > :12:33.morning that she apologised and her local synagogue came out in support

:12:34. > :12:38.of her. It's right we look at the circumstances of what happened but I

:12:39. > :12:43.think the policy is clear, though we suspend and then we investigate. If

:12:44. > :12:46.the party does not move swiftly to deal with this, or certainly in the

:12:47. > :12:49.same way as they did with other people, and they say they are

:12:50. > :12:52.implacably opposed to anti-Semitism, it will leave the impression that

:12:53. > :12:56.they don't actually follow through on an issue that they say they are

:12:57. > :13:00.against. I think that's right and I think that is a problem for the

:13:01. > :13:03.Labour Party if we don't look like we are taking these things

:13:04. > :13:07.seriously. But what I would also say is that it's not just about the

:13:08. > :13:10.impact on the Labour Party. There is also a question of what is the right

:13:11. > :13:15.thing to do, and the right thing to do is to do a full investigation and

:13:16. > :13:20.make sure that we do not tolerate anti-Semitism in our party at all.

:13:21. > :13:28.You have said she has apologised for these posts, she has and she says

:13:29. > :13:31.that that is not her view, but it clearly is what she thinks otherwise

:13:32. > :13:35.she would not have shared her posts. You could argue that she has just

:13:36. > :13:41.been rumbled. I can't get into saying what somebody thinks. I think

:13:42. > :13:45.the apology was right. I think it is wrong to share those posts and I

:13:46. > :13:48.think they were very offensive. The question is what happens next. The

:13:49. > :13:52.key thing is that there must be an investigation and we have to make

:13:53. > :13:56.sure we are not just saying that we are opposed to anti-Semitism, but we

:13:57. > :14:01.are acting on it. The Shadow Chancellor said in a recent article

:14:02. > :14:08.in the Independent, out, out, out, that is how people with anti-Jewish

:14:09. > :14:11.views are dealt with. If people express these views, they are out. I

:14:12. > :14:14.am taking a harder line, he says, than the leadership so far because

:14:15. > :14:17.people might say I have changed my views and will do something in

:14:18. > :14:22.another organisation. So he does not believe people change their views.

:14:23. > :14:25.He also said in the interview that people who make anti-Semitic remarks

:14:26. > :14:29.should be excluded from the Labour Party for life, which is further

:14:30. > :14:34.than our stated policy. Do you agree with him? I don't know if I agree

:14:35. > :14:38.that people should be excluded for life because I think you have to

:14:39. > :14:42.give people a chance to say sorry and change and amend for what they

:14:43. > :14:45.have done. But what I would say is that there has to be a suspension

:14:46. > :14:50.and an investigation when something like this occurs, because it is so

:14:51. > :14:55.serious and it does have such a knock-on effect on people outside of

:14:56. > :14:58.Parliament in the real world. Liam Fox, anti-Semitism is not just

:14:59. > :15:03.particular to the Labour Party. It is an issue that other parties have

:15:04. > :15:08.dealt with as well over the years and decades. Do you think that

:15:09. > :15:16.Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell are sending a clear enough message? I

:15:17. > :15:18.think there are a number of issues. I don't think it is whether you

:15:19. > :15:22.share the posts but whether you share the sentiment behind them or

:15:23. > :15:26.whether you write them. That's one thing. Another is that these were

:15:27. > :15:30.done before she was selected and elected so there are questions of

:15:31. > :15:35.process here. How does this simply not get picked up in advance of an

:15:36. > :15:39.election, that a candidate is allowed to stand having these things

:15:40. > :15:44.out there on social media? And I think there is a wider problem. Alex

:15:45. > :15:47.Chalmers, who was the chairman of Oxford University Labour club, who

:15:48. > :15:52.resigned because he said there was a problem with anti-Semitism there...

:15:53. > :15:56.If that's happening at Oxford University Labour club, you would

:15:57. > :15:59.suggest it was a wider problem. So I think it is absolutely essential

:16:00. > :16:06.that a clear line is taken by the Labour leadership. Ever get us the

:16:07. > :16:10.withdrawal of the -- I think it has to be withdrawal of the whip. I

:16:11. > :16:16.think the problem here is that sympathising with the views, not

:16:17. > :16:19.necessarily the timing of the event. I think you're wider point is

:16:20. > :16:23.important because the Labour Party, the vast majority of members in the

:16:24. > :16:29.Labour Party, are not anti-Semitic and a poor those views. But

:16:30. > :16:31.anti-Semitism is found in every institution and every part of

:16:32. > :16:36.society and it's important that none of us are complacent. There's a lot

:16:37. > :16:39.of them coming out of the Labour Party at the moment, though. There

:16:40. > :16:44.have been a number of incidents in the last few months.

:16:45. > :16:48.And a number of suspensions. What is going through somebody's mind when

:16:49. > :16:52.you post "Let's not forget everything Hitler did was legal"?

:16:53. > :16:59.Some of the things that you see on social media are unbelievable. But

:17:00. > :17:03.she's an MP. She wasn't an MP when she posted them but I'm not saying

:17:04. > :17:06.that excuses. Eyes up is the criticism is, is the Labour Party

:17:07. > :17:16.being reactive rather than proactive?

:17:17. > :17:18.-- I suppose the criticism is. So, the referendum

:17:19. > :17:20.campaign is hotting up. And what would normally be fairly

:17:21. > :17:22.dry stories suddenly This morning new figures show

:17:23. > :17:25.a slight slow-down in economic growth in the first

:17:26. > :17:27.quarter of this year. The Chancellor, George Osborne,

:17:28. > :17:30.says "the threat of leaving the EU It's the latest salvo

:17:31. > :17:34.in the campaign, so, Jo, bring us up Earlier this month, the Treasury

:17:35. > :17:37.released analysis in which they claimed leaving the EU

:17:38. > :17:39.would cost British But Vote Leave called the study

:17:40. > :17:44."completely worthless" and said the figures didn't add up,

:17:45. > :17:47.because they equated household Then last week, US President Barack

:17:48. > :17:56.Obama arrived in the UK to issue a warning on future

:17:57. > :18:00.US-UK trade deals. He said Britain would be

:18:01. > :18:03.at "the back of the queue" when drawing up future trade deals

:18:04. > :18:06.in the event of a British And Mayor of London Boris Johnson

:18:07. > :18:15.got himself into hot water after arguing the President's

:18:16. > :18:18."part-Kenyan" ancestry may have led to a "dislike of the British

:18:19. > :18:21.Empire". On Sunday, Home Secretary

:18:22. > :18:27.Theresa May made her first should remain in the EU,

:18:28. > :18:31.but admitted free movement of people makes it harder to control

:18:32. > :18:36.immigration to the UK. And on Monday, leading Leave

:18:37. > :18:38.campaigner Michael Gove launched a campaign arguing Britain will face

:18:39. > :18:52.a migration "free-for-all" unless it Thanks, Jo Co. Liam Fox, the OECD

:18:53. > :18:57.this morning, probably the most famous international think tank, has

:18:58. > :19:03.now said that incomes in Britain will be hit if we leave the EU. So

:19:04. > :19:10.we've now got the OECD, the IMF, the IFF, the World bank, six US former

:19:11. > :19:15.Treasury Secretary is all saying roughly the same thing. What

:19:16. > :19:19.international think tank still you have in your side? It's a question

:19:20. > :19:23.of why they are saying these things and the assumptions that they are

:19:24. > :19:26.making. I think they are making many of the wrong assumptions. If you

:19:27. > :19:33.look at the Treasury's on report, for example, it assumes that we

:19:34. > :19:36.wouldn't have any bilateral trade negotiations that were successful in

:19:37. > :19:40.the opening period. It doesn't take into account the cost of regulation

:19:41. > :19:43.on British industry and the fact that we could be freed from some of

:19:44. > :19:49.that. So I think you have to look at the wider picture. I think that

:19:50. > :19:52.today's figures that Jo was referring to are very interesting.

:19:53. > :19:58.At one set annual growth, the Treasury would normally be saying,

:19:59. > :20:04."That's wonderful". -- at 1% annual growth. We have these strong

:20:05. > :20:08.disruptions on the international stock markets so that's quite a good

:20:09. > :20:11.figure. I'm afraid that I think this rather childish obsession with

:20:12. > :20:15.blaming everything that we have in our economy on the European

:20:16. > :20:21.referendum doesn't wash. First of all, it was too far back and wasn't

:20:22. > :20:26.really affected by this. I understand that but let's come back

:20:27. > :20:32.to my question. Are you saying that you are right and the IMF, the IFF

:20:33. > :20:40.this, the World bank, the OECD, the US Treasury are all wrong? They all

:20:41. > :20:42.said we would benefit from being the exchange rate mechanism and they

:20:43. > :20:48.also will benefit from being in the euro and I we didn't listen to them.

:20:49. > :20:52.So you are right, a graduate of medicine from the University of

:20:53. > :20:57.Glasgow, and all these people - the IMF, the IFF is, the World Bank, the

:20:58. > :21:05.British Treasury, the US Treasury - are all wrong? I think they were all

:21:06. > :21:09.run on the euro. I think if we had followed their advice and we'd been

:21:10. > :21:12.part of the single currency, we'd now be facing what's facing many of

:21:13. > :21:15.the economies in Europe. The fact that we stayed out of that project

:21:16. > :21:18.was against all of the advice we were getting at the time and thank

:21:19. > :21:25.goodness John Major took that decision. So why hasn't Vote Leave

:21:26. > :21:32.managed to come up with a reputable and independent think tank or study

:21:33. > :21:39.that makes the right assumptions and shows the opposite of that? There

:21:40. > :21:45.was the open Europe report on it, Roger Bootle's report on it. Roger

:21:46. > :21:50.Bootle is a pro-leave economist. And these are anti-leave economists. So

:21:51. > :21:58.you can't say it's wrong to be an anti-BV economist because you are

:21:59. > :22:02.part... I would say open Europe is a fine think tank in this city. I

:22:03. > :22:07.would say it is not quite on a par with the IMF, the IFF is, the World

:22:08. > :22:13.Bank and the OECD. Excuse me if I'm not a great believer in the IMF's

:22:14. > :22:17.editing capabilities because back in 2013 the Chancellor was up in arms

:22:18. > :22:21.about them talking about how wrong we were to carry forward are sturdy

:22:22. > :22:24.programme. Six months later, they were revising to radically upwards

:22:25. > :22:27.are growth figures because they realised we'd taken the right

:22:28. > :22:32.decisions. They wanted us to join the single currency. We didn't do

:22:33. > :22:35.that. They have a very pro-European outlook. I don't say that they're

:22:36. > :22:41.wrong for doing that, I just think it's wrong for the UK. Lisa Nandy,

:22:42. > :22:46.doesn't Liam Fox make a decent point? I was looking back of the

:22:47. > :22:50.OECD's record. The OECD recommended that we should join the European

:22:51. > :22:55.exchange-rate in the 90s and it turned out to be a disaster, and it

:22:56. > :23:01.advocated that we should, in 1999... It didn't just say we should

:23:02. > :23:05.consider joining, it said we should join the euro. If it was wrong on

:23:06. > :23:10.these two massive things, why should we listen to it now? You don't have

:23:11. > :23:13.to listen to them if you don't want to. You could listen to Barack Obama

:23:14. > :23:17.and the US Treasury Secretary, you can listen to our Treasury, you

:23:18. > :23:20.could listen to a whole host of ignite experts, including the Bank

:23:21. > :23:26.of England, who are all saying the same thing. The Bank of England has

:23:27. > :23:35.been quite... It is only stored about short-term. The EU referendum,

:23:36. > :23:37.they think, will have a damaging effect on investment. You could

:23:38. > :23:42.listen to any of those experts if you want. You don't have to listen

:23:43. > :23:45.to the OECD. I don't agree with Liam. I remember when we were having

:23:46. > :23:49.the debate about whether to join the euro and you could actually find

:23:50. > :23:52.credible economists on both sides of the argument but what we are seeing

:23:53. > :23:57.with this... All these groups were on the wrong side of the argument.

:23:58. > :24:01.But it's really difficult to find anyone credible in economic series

:24:02. > :24:04.prepared to back your case and I think British people need to think

:24:05. > :24:08.about that very carefully in advance of the referendum because this is a

:24:09. > :24:14.really big decision that has gone to have a huge impact on our economy.

:24:15. > :24:19.Other than Roger Bootle, do you have people, credible in economic, who

:24:20. > :24:23.are on your side? I think there are people from the Mayor's financial

:24:24. > :24:27.adviser, who is a senior figure in the city, who has made an analysis

:24:28. > :24:31.and said that the City of London Police letter. You have to look at

:24:32. > :24:36.it in the wider context. First of all to take up this point about our

:24:37. > :24:40.own Treasury, our own Treasury were make this prediction in this report,

:24:41. > :24:43.which takes is 14 years ahead and without being disloyal to my

:24:44. > :24:49.colleagues in the Treasury, let's face it, they've got both the

:24:50. > :24:53.deficit figure wrong for this year and they got the growth figures

:24:54. > :24:57.wrong for this quarter. So prediction is a very dangerous thing

:24:58. > :25:03.to do. And I think it is important to see things in the wider context.

:25:04. > :25:08.We have a wider debate here than just this narrow element, because

:25:09. > :25:11.there's an element... I want to be in the EU and I've made it very

:25:12. > :25:17.clear because I want to get control of making our own laws. -- I want to

:25:18. > :25:23.leave the EU. These are huge issues. If you take one of them... You don't

:25:24. > :25:26.have greater control by stepping out of the European Union and refusing

:25:27. > :25:35.to actually take collective action on the big issues. Our financial

:25:36. > :25:39.service industry, which was the one that people said would be most

:25:40. > :25:41.attractor uncertainty over the referendum, has actually been the

:25:42. > :25:45.strongest part of our growth in this quarter. So it doesn't actually add

:25:46. > :25:51.up to all that that is causing uncertainty. What you're saying

:25:52. > :25:56.really doesn't make sense. The argument put forward by the Bank of

:25:57. > :26:00.England on this is that it will choke off investment because of the

:26:01. > :26:04.uncertainty created by the referendum. Companies are delaying

:26:05. > :26:08.decisions to invest and that long-term there will be an impact

:26:09. > :26:11.because of investment and trade. We are still getting more investment

:26:12. > :26:16.than any other part of the EU. Why are we getting more investment? If

:26:17. > :26:22.it's just being part of the EU, why are we getting so much of it in

:26:23. > :26:26.Britain? Let's leave that question. We could but we won't.

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:28:40. > :28:42.We'd better not set up a secret WhatsApp group!

:28:43. > :28:43.I already have. Yes, Prime Minister's

:28:44. > :28:57.Questions is on its way. A lot going on again. The OECD

:28:58. > :29:01.report this morning. Is Mr Corbyn going to surprise us? I think there

:29:02. > :29:05.might be a surprise in that little bird has suggested to me that he

:29:06. > :29:09.might, again, go on the issue of forcing every school in England to

:29:10. > :29:13.become an academy. Didn't he do all six questions on that last week? He

:29:14. > :29:19.did all six questions that last week. Since then it's an issue that

:29:20. > :29:21.continue to be difficult for the Education Secretary Nicky Morgan.

:29:22. > :29:24.She had a pretty bloody exchange at the dispatch box with problems being

:29:25. > :29:29.put forward by her own MPs and has been suggested to me that Mr Colburn

:29:30. > :29:32.might decide to do that again. As ever, I would put a big caveat on

:29:33. > :29:36.that and if he doesn't, it was only a little tip, but I think you might

:29:37. > :29:39.do that. It's interesting because I think Labour believes genuinely that

:29:40. > :29:42.they are onto something with this, partly because there is a real

:29:43. > :29:45.unease among some of the Tory benches, among Tory local

:29:46. > :29:48.government, and we know already there are going to be two to this

:29:49. > :29:53.plan. Not a big climb-down but we know there are tweaks on the way.

:29:54. > :29:56.Talking to some Labour MPs, they were saying it's quite a big issue

:29:57. > :29:59.in Westminster but it's not a huge issue in the country. It may well

:30:00. > :30:03.not have cut through. It's the kind of issue that you think might become

:30:04. > :30:07.a big issue in the local elections next week, of course. We've got the

:30:08. > :30:10.biggest, most compensated set of elections we've had for some years,

:30:11. > :30:14.in fact the biggest set of elections will have in this Parliament, but it

:30:15. > :30:17.doesn't seem really, and you don't hear from MPs that it's happening on

:30:18. > :30:21.the doorstep, but it seems that Jeremy Corbyn has fixated on this.

:30:22. > :30:25.And he did well last week so maybe that's why he's returning to it. It

:30:26. > :30:29.is also des two of the junior doctors' strike. It was interesting

:30:30. > :30:36.that Jeremy Corbyn and Madonna chose to go to some of the strike sites

:30:37. > :30:43.themselves. There was an alternative. The pilot scheme is

:30:44. > :30:49.something he could urge, which would resonate with the voters more than

:30:50. > :30:52.another round. Yes, Heidi Alexander, the Shadow Health Secretary,

:30:53. > :30:56.together with syllable Democrats and a Tory backbencher, a forward

:30:57. > :30:59.doctor, put forward the idea of trying out the new contract in some

:31:00. > :31:04.hospitals, which was dismissed by Jeremy Hunt. Would I be right in

:31:05. > :31:08.thinking Mr Camara will try to work on something on the anti-Semitism

:31:09. > :31:13.row? It would to practice -- surprise me if he didn't. There is a

:31:14. > :31:17.Leicester there from Oliver Downes, so you would think it would be

:31:18. > :31:20.something he would raise. Indeed. David Cameron is always very well

:31:21. > :31:24.prefer prime and it is questions and armed with a list of things to choke

:31:25. > :31:28.back, not just a list of questions you expect to come along. This is a

:31:29. > :31:32.big issue for the Labour Party. It has been very controversial, it has

:31:33. > :31:35.become a problem for them. We've seen that with Jeremy Corbyn having

:31:36. > :31:37.to respond to it himself this morning. He's been accused of being

:31:38. > :31:41.too slow to respond to these problems previously and it may well

:31:42. > :31:46.be in any case that there should be a suspension and an investigation.

:31:47. > :31:50.Naz Shah has had to stand down from her job working for John McDonell

:31:51. > :31:54.but she is still there in the party. And that may not be the position by

:31:55. > :31:58.the end of today. It may not run but there is going to be pressure on the

:31:59. > :32:02.Shadow Cabinet members liked Lisa, saying maybe there should be a

:32:03. > :32:06.suspension. Is there a head of steam building up to suspend the whip from

:32:07. > :32:08.her? What we've seen on previous occasions like this... In the end,

:32:09. > :32:14.that's been the position, whether it's been local councillors, there's

:32:15. > :32:17.had to be a suspension on exclusion. It may well be that because of other

:32:18. > :32:22.events today in Westminster, the story sometimes fades away. That

:32:23. > :32:26.happens, too. Don't forget after Prime Minister's Questions, there

:32:27. > :32:28.will be a very serious and, I think, well attended, probably quite

:32:29. > :32:33.compelling debate, on the Hillsborough inquest yesterday. So

:32:34. > :32:36.in the way of these things, for good or for ill, in Westminster sometimes

:32:37. > :32:40.stories fade away, literally because a bigger thing comes along. But I

:32:41. > :32:43.think there is going to be pressure on Labour to take more dramatic

:32:44. > :32:46.action against Naz Shah, at least for the coming time. We should say,

:32:47. > :32:50.she's been clear that doesn't hold those views any more and it was a

:32:51. > :32:51.mistake. We will leave it there. Let's go straight over to the

:32:52. > :33:42.Commons. I would like to associate myself

:33:43. > :33:45.with the Prime Minister is important comments on the Hillsborough tragedy

:33:46. > :33:50.along with members on all sides of the house and pay tribute to the

:33:51. > :33:54.victims, their families, and the resilience of the campaigners who

:33:55. > :34:05.continue to strive for the pursuit of justice. In my constituency of

:34:06. > :34:12.easterly service the GPs provide is crucial to people's daily lives, so

:34:13. > :34:18.does the Prime Minister agree with me that recent key announcements of

:34:19. > :34:23.?2.4 billion of funding for GPs is only possible because there was

:34:24. > :34:29.strong, Conservative majority government. My honourable friend is

:34:30. > :34:33.absolutely right. We made a choice to put ?12 billion into the NHS in

:34:34. > :34:38.the last Parliament, 19 billion into the NHS in this Parliament, and we

:34:39. > :34:43.need to see strengthening primary care. Our vision is GPs coming

:34:44. > :34:46.together and having in their surgeries, physiotherapists, mental

:34:47. > :34:49.health practitioners, other clinics so people can get the health care

:34:50. > :34:55.they need and we take the pressure off hospitals. That will only happen

:34:56. > :35:00.if we have a government that keeps investigating -- investing in our

:35:01. > :35:05.NHS. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Yesterday, after 27 years, the 96

:35:06. > :35:08.people who tragically lost their lives at Hillsborough and their

:35:09. > :35:12.families finally received the justice they were entitled to. I

:35:13. > :35:15.welcome the fact that the Prime Minister has apologised for the

:35:16. > :35:20.actions of previous governments and I join him in paying tribute to all

:35:21. > :35:23.of those families who campaigned with such dignity, steadfastness and

:35:24. > :35:27.determination to get to the truth of what happened to their loved ones on

:35:28. > :35:35.that dreadful afternoon. I also paid a very warm tribute to my friends,

:35:36. > :35:38.the members for Liverpool Walton, Holton, Garston and Halewood, who

:35:39. > :35:44.have relentlessly campaigned with great difficulty over many years. I

:35:45. > :35:48.hope the whole house today will be united in demanding that all those

:35:49. > :35:51.involved in the lies, smears and cover-ups that have so bedevilled

:35:52. > :35:59.the whole enquiry will now be held to account. Last week, the Prime

:36:00. > :36:04.Minister told the house that he was going to put rocket boosters on his

:36:05. > :36:09.forced canonisation proposals. This weekend, in the light of widespread

:36:10. > :36:15.unease, it seems the Weald are falling off the rocket boosters, and

:36:16. > :36:25.the government is considering a U-turn -- the wheels are falling.

:36:26. > :36:30.Can the Prime Minister 's confirm whether the U-turn is being prepared

:36:31. > :36:32.for not? First of all let me join the Right Honourable gentleman in

:36:33. > :36:36.praising those who campaigned so hard and so long to get justice for

:36:37. > :36:41.the victims of Hillsborough. This whole process took far too long but

:36:42. > :36:44.I think it is right, and I pay tribute to the honourable member

:36:45. > :36:48.that we had that Jones report and responded to it, and I also want to

:36:49. > :36:52.mention the former Attorney General who took the case to the High Court

:36:53. > :36:57.for the government himself to argue for that vital second inquest.

:36:58. > :37:02.Turning to the issue of academies, I have yet to see a rocket booster

:37:03. > :37:09.with a wheel on it, but rocket science isn't really my science, and

:37:10. > :37:16.maybe it's not his. I repeat again, academies are raising standards in

:37:17. > :37:22.our schools. I want a system where it is heads and teachers running

:37:23. > :37:32.schools, not bureaucrats. There wasn't much of an answer there, so

:37:33. > :37:39.can the Prime Minister tell us whether... If the members opposite

:37:40. > :37:42.would be patient enough, they might hear the question I'm putting to the

:37:43. > :37:46.Prime Minister, which is another very simple one. Could he tell us

:37:47. > :37:52.whether he will bring forward legislation to force, against the

:37:53. > :37:59.wishes of good and outstanding schools, to become academies in the

:38:00. > :38:01.upcoming Queen 's speech? Yes or no? Obviously I cannot pre-empt what is

:38:02. > :38:08.in the Queens speech, but on this one example I can help him out. We

:38:09. > :38:16.are going to have academies for all, and it will be in the Queens speech.

:38:17. > :38:25.Well, Mr Speaker, we look forward to that, but there is still time for

:38:26. > :38:29.the U-turn that I'm sure is at the back of the Prime Minister's mine.

:38:30. > :38:36.It has been reported that the government is considering allowing

:38:37. > :38:39.good local authorities to form multi-academy trusts. Ironically,

:38:40. > :38:45.this would give local authorities more responsibility for running

:38:46. > :38:47.schools than they have now. Although the Prime Minister's previously

:38:48. > :38:52.suggested that local authorities are holding schools back. So why is this

:38:53. > :38:56.costly reorganisation of school is necessary for schools that are

:38:57. > :39:01.already good or outstanding? Why is he forcing it on them? As I said

:39:02. > :39:06.last week, and I like repeats on television and I am happy to have

:39:07. > :39:09.them in the house as well, outstanding schools have nothing to

:39:10. > :39:13.fear from becoming academies and indeed have a lot to gain. Just

:39:14. > :39:20.because a school is outstanding or good doesn't mean it can't have

:39:21. > :39:24.further improvement, not least, because we want to see outstanding

:39:25. > :39:28.schools helping other schools in their area, often by being part of

:39:29. > :39:36.an Academy trust. He raises the issue about local authorities. To

:39:37. > :39:41.question so far, third question, third clear answer coming. Simmer

:39:42. > :39:45.down. Perhaps if you can deal with the anti-Semites in your own party,

:39:46. > :39:53.we might be prepared to deal with you a little bit more. Maybe we will

:39:54. > :39:56.come answer that. Of course there are lots of ways schools can become

:39:57. > :40:02.academies. They can convert and become academies, they can work with

:40:03. > :40:06.an outside organisation or work with other schools in the area all look

:40:07. > :40:10.at working with the local authority. Those schools that want to go on

:40:11. > :40:15.looking at local authority services are free to do so. Academies are

:40:16. > :40:21.great, academies for all our good policy, but what we are seeing from

:40:22. > :40:24.the Labour Party, I sense, is in favour of moving towards academy

:40:25. > :40:30.schools. When he gets to his feet, maybe he can save does he favour

:40:31. > :40:34.academies or not? Mr Speaker, the Prime Minister will be aware that

:40:35. > :40:39.sometimes repeats on television get more views than the first time

:40:40. > :40:44.round. The chief executive of the largest academy chain in London, the

:40:45. > :40:49.Harris Academy, has warned that a far more fundamental thing that the

:40:50. > :40:51.Prime Minister should worry about, whether school should become

:40:52. > :40:58.academies or not, is actually teacher shortages. The academies, Mr

:40:59. > :41:04.Speaker, don't want this, teachers don't want it, parents don't want

:41:05. > :41:09.it, Conservative councils and MPs don't want it. Who actually does

:41:10. > :41:14.want this top-down reorganisation he is imposing on the education system?

:41:15. > :41:20.Question number four, answer number four. Let's start with Michael

:41:21. > :41:27.Wilshaw, the chief inspector of schools. Somebody quite worthwhile

:41:28. > :41:32.listening to. Academies Asian -- academies in schools can lead to

:41:33. > :41:37.improvement and it is right to give more power to the front line. The

:41:38. > :41:43.OECD, they have been in the news today. The OECD say that they view

:41:44. > :41:46.the trend towards academies as a promising development in the UK

:41:47. > :41:51.which used to have a rather prescriptive education system. So

:41:52. > :41:54.they have supported it. What about endless Academy trusts who support

:41:55. > :41:58.it? He asked another question, very keen for complete at answers. If you

:41:59. > :42:14.shout, you won't hear the answers. He asked about teacher shortages.

:42:15. > :42:17.The fact is, there are more school places and more teachers under this

:42:18. > :42:22.government than there were under Labour. Why? Because we got a

:42:23. > :42:28.successful economy and we are putting it into our schools and our

:42:29. > :42:32.children's future. Mr Speaker, there are of course still record numbers

:42:33. > :42:38.of children in oversized classes and super-sized classes that is getting

:42:39. > :42:42.worse. And he feel he is looking for support for his academies proposal,

:42:43. > :42:46.he might care to phone up his friends, the leaders of Hampshire,

:42:47. > :42:50.West Sussex and his own Oxfordshire County Council, who are deeply

:42:51. > :42:54.concerned and opposed to it. He might care to listen to Council

:42:55. > :42:59.Carter, the Conservative chair of the county council 's network, who

:43:00. > :43:03.said the change will lead to a poorer education system --

:43:04. > :43:06.Councillor Carter. So why is he pushing it through with so much

:43:07. > :43:11.opposition and so much concern and such a waste of money when we should

:43:12. > :43:17.be investing in teachers and schools, not top-down

:43:18. > :43:19.reorganisation? I'm glad he is quoting Conservative council

:43:20. > :43:22.leaders, and because they keep the council tax than provide good

:43:23. > :43:29.services I hope we will see more of them in days' time. -- council tax

:43:30. > :43:38.down and provide. On teacher supply, just to be clear, 13,000 more

:43:39. > :43:42.teachers than 2010, to give a wholly accurate answer to his fourth

:43:43. > :43:47.question. Again he asked about who else would support academies. Let me

:43:48. > :43:51.quote Helena Mills of the burnt Mill Academy trust. She said she used to

:43:52. > :43:57.be very sceptical and resistant to academy status. But during the

:43:58. > :43:59.process of developing the academy I have been increasingly convinced

:44:00. > :44:05.that this is the way forward. That is what more and more people are

:44:06. > :44:11.seeing. That is why 1.3 million more children in good and outstanding

:44:12. > :44:14.schools. That is why almost nine out of ten converter academies are good

:44:15. > :44:19.or outstanding schools. We are very clear on this side of the house, we

:44:20. > :44:22.back aspiration and opportunity. We back investment in our schools. We

:44:23. > :44:26.want every child to get the best. It is Labour who want to hold back

:44:27. > :44:30.opportunity and have one size fits all. Mr Speaker, there seems to be a

:44:31. > :44:46.pattern developing here. The pattern is quite simply this. He

:44:47. > :44:49.has a Health Secretary that is imposing a contract on junior

:44:50. > :44:55.doctors against the wishes of patients and the public and the rest

:44:56. > :45:00.of the medical profession. He has an Education Secretary imposing yet

:45:01. > :45:06.another Tory top-down reorganisation that nobody wants. When will his

:45:07. > :45:10.government show some respect and listen to the public, parents and

:45:11. > :45:14.patients, and indeed, professionals who have given their lives to public

:45:15. > :45:21.service in education and health and change his ways? Listen to them and

:45:22. > :45:26.trust other people to run other services rather than imposing things

:45:27. > :45:29.from above. I tell him the pattern that is developing. We can see 1.9

:45:30. > :45:35.million more people being treated in the health service. We

:45:36. > :45:39.can see 1.3 million more children in good or outstanding schools. That is

:45:40. > :45:42.the battlements developing, a strong economy investing in public

:45:43. > :45:49.services. -- pattern developing. The other pattern I'm seeing is that I

:45:50. > :45:52.am on my fifth Labour leader standing at this box, and if he

:45:53. > :46:01.carries on like this I will soon be on my sixth.

:46:02. > :46:04.Mr Speaker, the Government package to help potential buyers of the Tata

:46:05. > :46:12.Steel site in Port Talbot is substantial, befitting the trend is

:46:13. > :46:17.bipartisan measures the government has taken to save this industry for

:46:18. > :46:21.top it stands in stark contrast with the distasteful, disrespect for

:46:22. > :46:25.contacts web of contrast of a Labour spokesman who said that it had been

:46:26. > :46:29.good for Labour. Could I ask if there is any indication that the

:46:30. > :46:33.package could help expedite the sale of the site, which could provide

:46:34. > :46:41.long-term viable future for well steal the we all hope for? I want to

:46:42. > :46:44.thank him for welcoming me yesterday and before come into his

:46:45. > :46:48.constituency yesterday, I visited Port Talbot and I met with the

:46:49. > :46:52.management and the trade unions. I had a very constructive discussion

:46:53. > :46:55.and I did actually meet the Conservative leader, Andrew RT

:46:56. > :47:00.Davies, who does an excellent job in the Welsh Assembly. If you want to

:47:01. > :47:06.be Speaker, you better stop interrupting everybody. It's not

:47:07. > :47:11.going to get you any votes! A little tip for you there. There is a

:47:12. > :47:18.serious point, which is that the areas where we could help are in

:47:19. > :47:20.power, procurement, on the issue of pensions. There is a very

:47:21. > :47:25.constructive conversation going on but I say again from this dispatch

:47:26. > :47:29.box, while I want to do everything I can to secure the future not only

:47:30. > :47:32.for Port Talbot but also for Scunthorpe and steel-making in

:47:33. > :47:36.Britain, we are coping with a massive oversupply, a collapse in

:47:37. > :47:40.prices from China, so we must do all we can. There is no guarantee of

:47:41. > :47:46.success but if we work hard, get a proper sales process and get behind

:47:47. > :47:51.it on a bipartisan basis, we can see success here. Following the

:47:52. > :47:54.Hillsborough inquiry, we join in all of the comments that have been said

:47:55. > :47:58.thus far in relation to the families and paying tribute all of the

:47:59. > :48:01.campaigners for justice. Mr Speaker, last night the Government was

:48:02. > :48:04.defeated for the second time in the House of Lords on the issue of

:48:05. > :48:09.refugee children being given refuge in the UK. There are many members of

:48:10. > :48:13.that house, as there are many members of this House, in all

:48:14. > :48:20.parties, including the primers to's wild side, who would wish us to do

:48:21. > :48:23.much much more in helping provide refuge for unaccompanied children in

:48:24. > :48:27.Europe at the present time. Will the Prime Minister please reconsider his

:48:28. > :48:34.opposition and stop walking on by on the other side? I don't think anyone

:48:35. > :48:37.could accuse this country of walking on by in terms of this refugee

:48:38. > :48:41.crisis. Let's be very clear about what we've done. First of all,

:48:42. > :48:45.taking 20,000 refugees from outside of Europe, which I think has

:48:46. > :48:49.all-party support. Second of all, last week announcing a further 3000

:48:50. > :48:54.principally unaccompanied children and children at risk from outside

:48:55. > :48:57.Europe that we will be taking. Third of all, in our normal refugee

:48:58. > :49:03.procedures, last year we took over 3000 unaccompanied children. But

:49:04. > :49:07.where I disagree, respectively, with their Lordship's house, is those

:49:08. > :49:13.people who are in European countries are in safe European countries. To

:49:14. > :49:19.compare somehow children or adults who are in France or Germany or

:49:20. > :49:23.Italy or Spain or Portugal or Greece... To compare that with

:49:24. > :49:26.children stuck in Nazi Germany I think is deeply wrong and we'll

:49:27. > :49:31.continue with our approach, which includes, by the way, being the

:49:32. > :49:39.second largest donor of any country anywhere in the world into those

:49:40. > :49:50.refugee camps. Just as in the 1930s, thereafter thousands... There's no

:49:51. > :49:52.comparison, Mr Speaker. Apparently, there's no comparison between

:49:53. > :49:56.thousands of children needing refuge in the 1930s and thousands of

:49:57. > :50:05.children it in Europe at the present time. Order, order! Order! I'm not

:50:06. > :50:09.interested in somebody yelling out their opinion of the honourable

:50:10. > :50:12.gentleman's question. This is the home of free speech. The honourable

:50:13. > :50:20.gentleman and every other member will be heard, however long this

:50:21. > :50:26.session takes. It's very clear. Mr Angus Robertson. Europol estimates

:50:27. > :50:32.that 10,000 unaccompanied children in Europe have disappeared. This is

:50:33. > :50:38.an existential question about the safety of vulnerable children. The

:50:39. > :50:42.Prime Minister thinks it is not the responsibility of the latest kingdom

:50:43. > :50:50.to help unaccompanied children in Europe, so I ask him, who has the

:50:51. > :50:55.moral responsibility to feed them, to clothe them, to educate them and

:50:56. > :51:01.give them refuge if not us and everybody in Europe? Let me answer

:51:02. > :51:05.that very directly. First of all, any unaccompanied child who has

:51:06. > :51:08.direct family in Britain and claiming asylum, under the Dublin

:51:09. > :51:13.regulations, can come to Britain, and quite right, too. But he asked

:51:14. > :51:18.the question, who was was once both refugees? The person responsible is

:51:19. > :51:23.the country in which they are in. -- who is responsible for refugees. You

:51:24. > :51:27.have to ask yourself, do we do better by taking a child from

:51:28. > :51:30.refugee camp or taking a child from the Lebanon or taking a child from

:51:31. > :51:36.Jordan than we do taking a child from France or Italy or Germany?

:51:37. > :51:39.And, as I said, to compare this to the 1930s is frankly to insult those

:51:40. > :51:49.countries who are our neighbours and partners. Thank you, Mr Speaker. ATP

:51:50. > :51:55.industries group based in Kalak would one of Europe's largest

:51:56. > :52:02.independent manufacturers of vehicle electronics and were last week

:52:03. > :52:07.awarded the Queens award for innovation. They export goods across

:52:08. > :52:12.the globe, with the international trade increasing by 50 this out last

:52:13. > :52:15.year. Will my right honourable friend join me in congratulating ATP

:52:16. > :52:21.and will he set out what the government is doing to support

:52:22. > :52:25.exporters to reach new markets? I certainly join her in congratulating

:52:26. > :52:29.ATP. It's very difficult to win at Queen's on for export so they do

:52:30. > :52:32.deserve praise. What we need to see in our country is... We currently

:52:33. > :52:36.have one in five SMEs that exports. If we could make that one in four,

:52:37. > :52:42.we could wipe out our trade deficit. We are courage and that through the

:52:43. > :52:45.work of UKTI. We are also encouraging it by encouraging

:52:46. > :52:48.reassuring, by getting the supply and components industries, for

:52:49. > :52:57.instance, for the automotive industries, to come back on shore

:52:58. > :53:00.and invest in Britain. In my constituency, family have lived and

:53:01. > :53:04.raise their family in a small village for many years. Despite full

:53:05. > :53:08.cooperation, they face an uphill and fruitless battle the Home Office,

:53:09. > :53:11.have had their driving licences revoked and are being forced out of

:53:12. > :53:17.a community they have served and invested in by a technicality around

:53:18. > :53:20.their business, the local shop. Will the Prime Minister look into this

:53:21. > :53:25.grossly unfair situation and work with me to achieve justice for this

:53:26. > :53:30.family? I'll certainly have a look at the KC mentions if he lets me

:53:31. > :53:34.know the names and the nature of the issues, and I'll make sure the Home

:53:35. > :53:38.Office look at it urgently. As the primers to will know from getting

:53:39. > :53:42.stuck in traffic on his way into Bath just before the general

:53:43. > :53:47.election last year, my constituency is plagued by high air-pollution and

:53:48. > :53:51.congestion. Given this government's commitment to invest billions of

:53:52. > :53:54.pounds in a Church, something that the previous Labour government

:53:55. > :53:57.failed to do in 13 years, will Prime Minister look at committing to look

:53:58. > :54:02.of the construction of the long overdue and much-needed missing

:54:03. > :54:06.A36-40 six Link Rd to the east of my constituency? I'll certainly have a

:54:07. > :54:09.look at what he says stop the makes an important point because some

:54:10. > :54:13.people think that if you care about air quality, there is no room for

:54:14. > :54:16.any road building but, of course, stationary traffic is much polluting

:54:17. > :54:20.than moving traffic and we have to make sure the arteries that serve

:54:21. > :54:23.all our constituencies are open, so I'll carefully at what he said but

:54:24. > :54:27.at the same time, we should recognise that air quality is

:54:28. > :54:31.improving, nitrogen oxides are down 17% over the last four years and we

:54:32. > :54:37.want to do more by introducing the clean air programme. With the UK

:54:38. > :54:42.facing our most momentous decision for a generation in eight weeks,

:54:43. > :54:45.does the Prime Minister think it makes more sense for us to listen to

:54:46. > :54:50.all of our closest friends and allies around the world or to a

:54:51. > :54:57.combination of French fascists, Nigel Farage and Vladimir Putin?

:54:58. > :55:01.Well, I'm glad he takes the English pronunciation of Farage, rather than

:55:02. > :55:06.the rather poncey foreign sounding one that he seems to prefer. I think

:55:07. > :55:09.that's a thoroughly good thing. Obviously, I think we should listen

:55:10. > :55:15.to our friends and our allies and as I look around the world, it's hard

:55:16. > :55:19.to find the leader of a country that wishes us well that wants us to do

:55:20. > :55:25.anything other than stay inside a reformed European Union. Mr Speaker,

:55:26. > :55:28.the new ISAs that were announced in this budget are very welcome. They

:55:29. > :55:32.will help people save for homes and retirement. Does my right Oracle

:55:33. > :55:37.friend will have seen in this morning's City AM, as much of a

:55:38. > :55:42.third of the gains a pension could make over a lifetime could be

:55:43. > :55:47.stripped. Can he tell me what this covenant is doing to make sure that

:55:48. > :55:50.firms investing people's hard earned savings reveal all the fees they

:55:51. > :55:54.will be paying so that people can choose what is best for them? He has

:55:55. > :55:59.fought a long campaign about this and quite rightly so. One of the

:56:00. > :56:04.things that saps people's enthusiasm for investing and savings products

:56:05. > :56:07.is the sense that they don't understand the fees and charges and

:56:08. > :56:10.don't know how much they are going to get out of them. What we've done

:56:11. > :56:17.is since last April, trustees have defined -- of defined contribution

:56:18. > :56:20.schemes... The FCA argument bids to making regulations with us during

:56:21. > :56:25.this Parliament requiring the publication of more costs and

:56:26. > :56:32.charges. -- the FCA are committed. I'm sure he will put us all the way

:56:33. > :56:34.to make sure it happens. The Prime Minister and his government did next

:56:35. > :56:42.to nothing to say the Scottish steel industry. It was left to the

:56:43. > :56:47.Scottish Government. Now the UK Government is breaking the promises

:56:48. > :56:51.made by both Tories and Labour to protect the Scottish shipbuilding

:56:52. > :56:58.industry. Why does the Prime Minister think that Scottish jobs

:56:59. > :57:01.are so expendable? Frankly, the Scottish Government and the UK

:57:02. > :57:05.Government should work together and one of the things we should work

:57:06. > :57:10.together on his procurement. And it is worth asking how much Scottish

:57:11. > :57:16.steel was in the Forth Road Bridge? Zero, none, absolutely nothing. Yes,

:57:17. > :57:21.what a contrast with the warships that we're building. Of course, we

:57:22. > :57:23.wouldn't be building them if we happen independent Scotland. So

:57:24. > :57:36.we've backed the steel industry with actions as well as words. Order! The

:57:37. > :57:41.House is excitable but it must simmer down. We must hear the

:57:42. > :57:46.honourable lady. Hatred and ignorance lie at the heart of

:57:47. > :57:50.anti-Semitism. And when those in public life express such views, they

:57:51. > :57:55.denigrate not only themselves but also the institutions to which they

:57:56. > :58:00.belong. Will my right honourable friend please reassure this House of

:58:01. > :58:06.his commitment to fighting this vicious form of prejudice? I think

:58:07. > :58:09.it is very simple. Anti-Semitism is effectively racism and we should

:58:10. > :58:13.call it out and fight it wherever we see it. And the fact that, Frankie,

:58:14. > :58:19.we've got a Labour MP with the Labour whip, who made remarks about

:58:20. > :58:22.the transportation of people from Israel to America, and talked about

:58:23. > :58:25.a solution, and is still in receipt of the Labour whip, is quite

:58:26. > :58:30.extraordinary. Let me tell you what the Shadow Chancellor said about

:58:31. > :58:34.these people. "Out, Out, out. If people express these views, they are

:58:35. > :58:37.out. People might be able to reform their views on the rest of it. On

:58:38. > :58:44.this, I can't see it, I'm not having it. People might say, I change my

:58:45. > :58:46.views and will do something with a different organisation". I'm

:58:47. > :58:51.friendly, there will be too many hours in the day before that happens

:58:52. > :58:54.the MP in question. One of my constituents was killed at the age

:58:55. > :59:01.of 25 by an 18-year-old driving a hire car without a licence. He was

:59:02. > :59:04.driving at 80 mph in a 30 mph zone. The 18-year-old was convicted of

:59:05. > :59:08.causing death by dangerous driving and received a sentence after six

:59:09. > :59:14.years, of which probably serve three. Two weeks ago, myself along

:59:15. > :59:17.with Joseph's family, delivered a 20,000 signature petition calling

:59:18. > :59:21.for tougher sentences for causing death by dangerous driving. Does the

:59:22. > :59:25.Prime Minister agree with me that sentences for these crimes are too

:59:26. > :59:31.lenient, and when can we expect to get a response to our petition and

:59:32. > :59:35.get justice for Joseph? Well, I have every simply with the family in

:59:36. > :59:40.question. I had an almost identical case in my constituency, where a

:59:41. > :59:45.young girl was killed I a dangerous driver. The maximum sentence is 14

:59:46. > :59:48.years, so the courts do have the ability to sentence more but I know

:59:49. > :59:53.what this means to the families. I'm making sure that the Minister for

:59:54. > :59:55.roads is looking again at these issues in terms of dangerous driving

:59:56. > :00:04.and I'll make sure the case she mentioned this taken into account.

:00:05. > :00:08.-- is taken. As the birthplace of the industrial revolution, Dudley is

:00:09. > :00:15.proud of its heritage but we need economic stability to deliver a

:00:16. > :00:18.prosperous future. Will the Prime Minister helped to launch the new

:00:19. > :00:24.enterprise zone in Brierley Hill, to look at how we can attract more

:00:25. > :00:30.investment, create new jobs and develop a highly skilled workforce

:00:31. > :00:33.our community needs? I will look very carefully, whether I'm able to

:00:34. > :00:37.do that, because we support the industrial regeneration of the Black

:00:38. > :00:42.Country. The truth is, enterprise zones have been a success. They

:00:43. > :00:45.created nearly 25,000 jobs, attracted over 630 companies and

:00:46. > :00:49.secured 2.4 billion of private sector investment. A lot of the

:00:50. > :00:53.delivery of enterprise zones is going to involve a lot of hard work

:00:54. > :00:58.by local authorities and I pay tribute to them and I wish him well

:00:59. > :01:03.in the Black Country. Given the strategic and economic importance of

:01:04. > :01:07.the M62 corridor to the northern powerhouse, can the Prime Minister

:01:08. > :01:10.give me and the people of Bradford his commitment to the

:01:11. > :01:14.electrification of the cold of a line, and lent his support for the

:01:15. > :01:20.great city of Bradford to be a fundamental part of the proposed

:01:21. > :01:22.northern powerhouse? We have made commitments knowledge

:01:23. > :01:27.of occasion in terms of North- South lines and East - Westlands stockpile

:01:28. > :01:37.look carefully at proposal she makes. Nuclear matters in Cumbria.

:01:38. > :01:40.We have a nuclear Gazzi at Sellafield. Defence work at Barrow

:01:41. > :01:45.and the prospect of serious investment in a new nuclear land at

:01:46. > :01:49.Moorside. Given the apparent opposition to nuclear from the party

:01:50. > :01:52.is opposite, can the Prime Minister confirm that the long-term decisions

:01:53. > :01:57.for both nuclear power and defence will be made in a timely manner? He

:01:58. > :02:03.is absolutely right that Cumbria does depend, to a large extent, on

:02:04. > :02:07.jobs from the industries that he mentions. Obviously, an Sellafield,

:02:08. > :02:14.we continue to invest in reprocessing and in the procedures

:02:15. > :02:15.that. We are also looking at redeveloping our commercial nuclear

:02:16. > :02:19.industries, starting with the vital decision that Hinkley Point, which

:02:20. > :02:23.could have very great benefits for other areas that want to see nuclear

:02:24. > :02:26.power stations. And, of course, Barrow is home to the development of

:02:27. > :02:30.our nuclear submarines and we will be holding a vote in this House to

:02:31. > :02:37.make sure we renew our Trident in full. The Prime Minister has just

:02:38. > :02:43.suggested that child refugees alone in Europe are safe. There are

:02:44. > :02:46.children's homes fall in Italy and Greece and over 1000 children will

:02:47. > :02:51.sleep rough in Greece alone tonight. How are they safe? 10,000 children

:02:52. > :02:55.have disappeared in Europe. How are they safe? The agencies say that

:02:56. > :03:02.children are committing survival sex. They are being abused, subject

:03:03. > :03:07.to prostitution and rape. It is not insulting other European countries

:03:08. > :03:12.to offer to help. They want us to help. So will he reconsider his

:03:13. > :03:17.position on the amendment before it comes back to the vote and stopped

:03:18. > :03:27.with his attitude to loan child refugees, putting this House and

:03:28. > :03:30.this country to shame? If we are helping other European countries,

:03:31. > :03:34.and we're helping other European countries, not least with the ?10

:03:35. > :03:39.million we was announced. But the crucial point is this. How do we in

:03:40. > :03:43.Britain best help child refugees? We think we help them by taking them

:03:44. > :03:46.from the refugee camps. Taken from Lebanon, from Jordan, when they to

:03:47. > :03:56.this country. That's what we're doing and we have a proud record. --

:03:57. > :04:01.bringing them to this country. Several small businesses I've met

:04:02. > :04:06.within Tadcaster last week are being treated appallingly by insurance

:04:07. > :04:10.companies. Four months after the floods Maclean's have not been

:04:11. > :04:16.settled and renewal premiums art being hiked to astronomical levels.

:04:17. > :04:21.-- claims have not been settled. The Government has introduced the flood

:04:22. > :04:23.scheme to help homeowners after flooding the stock does my right

:04:24. > :04:29.honourable friend agree with me that the same protection should be given

:04:30. > :04:34.to small business owners, to? First of all, I absolutely recognise the

:04:35. > :04:36.problem that he lays out. My constituency was badly flooded and

:04:37. > :04:40.some insurance company is paid out very quickly, others were not so

:04:41. > :04:44.fast. I understand when will look at what happened during the winter,

:04:45. > :04:48.we've got 82% of claims that have been paid out but what I would say

:04:49. > :04:51.to him and other colleagues is, where you have specific examples,

:04:52. > :04:55.the Secretary of State for farming, food and rural affairs will be very

:04:56. > :05:00.interested to see them so we can get on top of the insurance industry. On

:05:01. > :05:03.the issue of whether we need a flood restyle approached of small

:05:04. > :05:06.businesses, we will looks as if they're about to make sure the small

:05:07. > :05:12.businesses can get the insurance they need. Three years ago, whilst

:05:13. > :05:16.on holiday in France, my mother fell seriously ill. Thanks to the French

:05:17. > :05:19.health service, she received excellent treatment, was diagnosed

:05:20. > :05:24.with cancer, unfortunately, but she is doing well today, thanks to our

:05:25. > :05:28.NHS is well. Millions of Brits every year travel to other EU countries

:05:29. > :05:31.and benefit, like my mum, from the revered health insurance card. What

:05:32. > :05:36.would happen to that card should we vote to leave on the 23rd of June?

:05:37. > :05:39.First of all, our behalf of the whole house, can I wish Motherwell

:05:40. > :05:44.in her treatment and the treatment she is getting from the NHS? She

:05:45. > :05:47.raises an important point, which is, this is one of the important

:05:48. > :05:51.benefits we have now. Many of us would have used it ourselves or for

:05:52. > :05:54.our own children and we think we can make the system even better as we

:05:55. > :05:58.are. It is for those who want to leave the EU to explain, if we were

:05:59. > :06:02.to leave, would we still be able to access this and other such systems,

:06:03. > :06:08.which are very handy for people going on holidays? Whatever the

:06:09. > :06:13.outcome of the EU referendum, does the Prime Minister agree that one

:06:14. > :06:17.thing that will never diminish is the mutual affection and admiration

:06:18. > :06:27.between Britain and our great ally France? In that connection, will he

:06:28. > :06:35.paid tribute to the people who fought and won the Normandy

:06:36. > :06:40.campaign, such as the late Captain Paul Cash, who was killed fighting

:06:41. > :06:43.in Normandy at the age of 26, having won the military cross. He was the

:06:44. > :06:54.father of the honourable member, my friend the honourable member for

:06:55. > :06:59.stone, and Sergeant Peter Carne, who, at 93, is at Westminster today,

:07:00. > :07:04.who built the bridge is that May the break-out from the Normandy

:07:05. > :07:10.beachhead and who will be receiving a French award in a typically

:07:11. > :07:14.cordial gesture French allies. I join him in paying tribute all those

:07:15. > :07:20.who served, particularly those who fell in that heroic campaign. One of

:07:21. > :07:25.the proudest things I've been able to do as Prime Minister was to go to

:07:26. > :07:29.the 70th anniversary and go to that vigil, where our gliders came in to

:07:30. > :07:33.prepare for those landings and to go to Gold Beach and see the incredible

:07:34. > :07:36.work that was done, so we should remember what they did and we should

:07:37. > :07:43.remember what it was that they gave their lives for, which was to

:07:44. > :07:47.achieve peace on our continent. My constituent Debra has HIV that she

:07:48. > :07:53.contracted via a partner who received a contaminated blood

:07:54. > :07:56.transfusion. My constituent Neil has hepatitis, again from the controller

:07:57. > :08:00.tainted transfusion. He now needs a second liver transplant. Neither of

:08:01. > :08:04.them can hold down a full-time job because of the catastrophic effects

:08:05. > :08:07.of their health on the conditions so they absolutely rely on the support

:08:08. > :08:11.from the state that the Government is applied to slash in half. I asked

:08:12. > :08:14.the Prime Minister, why is the Government so willing to attack

:08:15. > :08:20.people whose only this take was to be unlucky? First of all, what we

:08:21. > :08:23.said before the election was that we'd set aside ?25 million to help

:08:24. > :08:30.those who were infected with HIV because of contaminated blood. We

:08:31. > :08:33.raise that to 100 million and we are currently consulting with all the

:08:34. > :08:36.groups about how best to use that money. We are going to be doing more

:08:37. > :08:39.than we said at a lecture on time and it is very necessary because

:08:40. > :08:54.these people have suffered through no fault of their own.

:08:55. > :09:02.A bit like Back to the Future, as six questions there, and we know

:09:03. > :09:09.that they went over some of the ground last week. He did go over the

:09:10. > :09:15.junior doctors strike in the final question saying that the government

:09:16. > :09:17.had it in for parents and patients. Whether we learned anything new

:09:18. > :09:24.compared with last week is another matter. We will discuss that in a

:09:25. > :09:28.minute. Before we do, what are the viewers thinking today? They agreed

:09:29. > :09:33.in the main that perhaps academies was not the issue to choose the

:09:34. > :09:36.second week running. John from Hemel Hempstead said the Jeremy Corbyn

:09:37. > :09:40.went on academies last weekend and it would have been better to go on

:09:41. > :09:44.the doctors strike this week. John Gray said he was saddened that

:09:45. > :09:46.Jeremy Corbyn missed an important opportunity to put meaningful

:09:47. > :09:54.questions about the junior doctors strike. Tim said that last week was

:09:55. > :09:56.a failure going on academies and a repeat was worse. John from

:09:57. > :10:02.Wakefield said Jeremy Corbyn was right to ask why once again there

:10:03. > :10:06.was a proposed top-down reorganisation in a very important

:10:07. > :10:10.institution, ie the children's education. It seems pretty evident

:10:11. > :10:14.the reason for what he's doing is the same as his reorganisation the

:10:15. > :10:21.NHS which is to privatise service delivery. Before we go on we are

:10:22. > :10:27.going to read a bit from Naz Shah who were talking about earlier, who

:10:28. > :10:29.stood down as Parliamentary aide to John McDonald over comments made

:10:30. > :10:35.that were claimed to be anti-Semitic and were certainly anti-Zionist. She

:10:36. > :10:41.has written a full apology to the Jewish community via the Jewish

:10:42. > :10:44.news. She says that she is sorry, someone who knows the scourge of

:10:45. > :10:48.oppression all too well it is important that I make an unequivocal

:10:49. > :10:54.apology for statements and ideas I foolishly endorsed in the past. The

:10:55. > :11:01.manner and tone of what I wrote in haste is not excusable. With the

:11:02. > :11:09.understanding of the issues I have now, I have to wear not that

:11:10. > :11:12.ignorance is not a defence. But that importance is the impact that the

:11:13. > :11:19.posts have had on other people. I understand that referring to Israel

:11:20. > :11:22.and Hitler, as I did, is offensive to Jewish people, for which I

:11:23. > :11:26.apologise. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and I'm shocked myself that

:11:27. > :11:31.the language used in some instances during the Gaza Israel conflict. For

:11:32. > :11:34.this, I apologise. Since winning the seat Bradford West I have made a

:11:35. > :11:39.conscious efforts in areas around integration, building bridges and

:11:40. > :11:44.community development in and around Muslim and Jewish relations. Indeed,

:11:45. > :11:47.one of my first visit was to my local synagogue. If politicians put

:11:48. > :11:51.their hands up when they get something wrong it helps restore

:11:52. > :11:55.faith in politics and I hope that by writing to those who might have hurt

:11:56. > :12:01.I am practising what I preach and calling myself out. Lisa, this is an

:12:02. > :12:06.apology which presumably she hopes might spare her being suspended from

:12:07. > :12:09.the party. Would that be wrong if the Labour Party decide to keep her

:12:10. > :12:15.in the Labour Party and not suspend her? Listening to that it sounded

:12:16. > :12:19.like an incredibly genuine and difficult thing for her to do and I

:12:20. > :12:22.think it's right that she has so unequivocally apologised for what

:12:23. > :12:28.she said. At the heart of that statement is the recognition that

:12:29. > :12:32.the reason comments like that are so damaging it's not the impact on the

:12:33. > :12:38.Labour Party or Parliament it's the impact on people. To stick to what I

:12:39. > :12:43.said earlier, we have a process in the party and it's important we

:12:44. > :12:50.follow it. She is apologising to the Jewish community? But my

:12:51. > :12:55.understanding is that she wasn't advocating that British Jews should

:12:56. > :13:00.be sent to America, it was Israeli Jews. Shouldn't she apologised to

:13:01. > :13:03.the people of Israel? She said in the early statement that she did not

:13:04. > :13:08.really think about what she was posting at the time and she is

:13:09. > :13:12.sorry. But she did it. She was saying that the people of Israel

:13:13. > :13:20.should be mass deported to the United States. Surely she has to

:13:21. > :13:24.apologise to them, because she was not saying that British Jews should

:13:25. > :13:31.be mass deported as well. I'm pretty sure that would be even worse. What

:13:32. > :13:40.I would say is the important thing is she's made it clear she does not

:13:41. > :13:44.hold the views or subscribe to them fighting for the Labour whip. The

:13:45. > :13:48.Labour Party a policy and we should follow it and I made that clear to

:13:49. > :13:52.the leader 's office. You would be happy with her having the whip

:13:53. > :13:56.withdrawn? Pending an investigation. I don't think it's fair or right to

:13:57. > :14:01.pre-empt the outcome of an investigation. All of the points

:14:02. > :14:03.that she made should be considered and she should be given the

:14:04. > :14:08.opportunity to make the case but we have a policy in the party, and the

:14:09. > :14:12.reason that the policy and process is important is because it gives

:14:13. > :14:18.confidence to the outside world that we deal with these things in that

:14:19. > :14:21.way. It's not an isolated incident, there have been others in recent

:14:22. > :14:25.times and there's another issue for the Labour Party which is

:14:26. > :14:28.reputational. She made these comments and put out these posts

:14:29. > :14:38.before she was elected, so why was it not picked up? You made a decent

:14:39. > :14:42.point that a political party cannot just respond to problems, we need to

:14:43. > :14:45.be pre-emptive and make sure that they don't occur. I think that's a

:14:46. > :14:52.decent point and something I'll be considering. You do get Mavericks

:14:53. > :14:56.all over the place is Conservative Party chairman and with social media

:14:57. > :14:59.it is more difficult but there needs to be a process when people are

:15:00. > :15:02.putting out statements like that which are very extreme and which are

:15:03. > :15:07.being posted by very dangerous and radical groups that there needs to

:15:08. > :15:11.be a way of discovering or monitoring this as part of due

:15:12. > :15:15.diligence. It is about being proactive, I think. I'm sure you

:15:16. > :15:18.would agree that none of us should be complacent about what happens in

:15:19. > :15:27.our political parties and we should be proactive. What is happening? The

:15:28. > :15:32.most of my adult life, anti-Semitism was overwhelmingly the preserve of

:15:33. > :15:39.the far right, it is what the National front spoke about. Le Pen's

:15:40. > :15:45.father was a Holocaust denier and it was always on the far right of

:15:46. > :15:50.British politics where there was lingering Nazism, and when it rose

:15:51. > :15:54.up, it was slapped down. Why is this now coming from elements of the

:15:55. > :15:58.left? What I'd say first of all is that the vast majority of the Labour

:15:59. > :16:06.Party, and beyond the Labour Party on the left eye and these sort of

:16:07. > :16:13.things an affront to our values. I maybe wrong, historically, but I'm

:16:14. > :16:17.thinking, on the Democratic left, because the Russians had their

:16:18. > :16:22.pogroms, but on the Democratic left, they fought anti-Semitism. That is

:16:23. > :16:27.why so many Jews join the Labour Party in the 1930s, so why has it

:16:28. > :16:33.now become, in a small element on the left, such an issue? It is a

:16:34. > :16:37.minority of people and I struggle to understand how people can hold those

:16:38. > :16:42.sorts of views. I was really surprised recently when Luciano

:16:43. > :16:49.Burge put something on twitter with a series of abuse she had faced --

:16:50. > :16:54.Luciana Berger. She was being subjected to the most appalling

:16:55. > :16:58.content and images. Apparently she gets it on a daily basis, and I was

:16:59. > :17:02.shocked. As somebody who is not Jewish, I don't face that, and I

:17:03. > :17:05.didn't realise the extent of the problem, particularly on social

:17:06. > :17:08.media. I go back to what I said earlier. I think none of us can

:17:09. > :17:16.afford to be complacent, we need to be proactive. You are right on this

:17:17. > :17:19.point, Andrew, it's always been associated recently on the far

:17:20. > :17:24.right, but there is a far left element, and I was quoting Karl

:17:25. > :17:32.Marx, written in the 1840s, saying the essence of Judaism and the

:17:33. > :17:36.Jewish soul is expediency and. Judaism is the embodiment of

:17:37. > :17:40.anti-social attitudes. There is an element in the left that has always

:17:41. > :17:43.taken some of these views. It needs to be stamped out. Whether it comes

:17:44. > :17:52.from right or left, it is fundamentally wrong and it degrades

:17:53. > :17:58.our society. I think David Cameron ratcheted up the pressure on Jeremy

:17:59. > :18:01.Corbyn. He said it was quite extraordinary that she still had the

:18:02. > :18:05.whip was his quote. We should be watching this space through the

:18:06. > :18:08.course of the day. There has been, and certainly in the first time that

:18:09. > :18:13.I've been reporting on politics in 12 or 13 years based in Westminster,

:18:14. > :18:17.it's the first time really that we have seen this bubble up as a

:18:18. > :18:20.problem that affects the leadership of the party and where the

:18:21. > :18:23.leadership of the party has been sometimes, by the critics, open to

:18:24. > :18:29.the accusation of not acting swiftly enough when these things pop up.

:18:30. > :18:33.Like you, it seems to have become an issue now and I can't unpick the

:18:34. > :18:36.reasons, and the Labour leadership has tried. John McDonald was quoted

:18:37. > :18:42.early as saying out, out, out, that is what we will do. When out, out,

:18:43. > :18:46.out is not the immediate response it leaves the door open for people to

:18:47. > :18:50.have worries, to have a question in their mind about why things are not

:18:51. > :18:54.happening quickly enough. She is still a member of the home affairs

:18:55. > :18:56.select committee which is currently carrying out an enquiry into

:18:57. > :19:06.anti-Semitism, and people will make a judgment on that.

:19:07. > :19:11.It's also worth noting that the whole selection process in Bradford

:19:12. > :19:14.was a very messy, bruising situation with lots of Labour infighting. It

:19:15. > :19:19.was something we noted in the general election campaign. It was

:19:20. > :19:24.George Galloway. Yes but there was also Labour infighting to quite

:19:25. > :19:29.some... Well, a very striking degree, having gone there and looked

:19:30. > :19:31.at the story. There was an awful lot of upset into early in the Labour

:19:32. > :19:37.Party over the whole selection process. When they defeated George

:19:38. > :19:41.Calloway, many people in the Labour Party were delighted, "Oh, we come

:19:42. > :19:44.to be sold are problems in Bradford now," but I think the way this has

:19:45. > :19:47.popped up, by the end of the day we might be in a position where she is

:19:48. > :19:50.suspended. I don't think a suspension means she should be

:19:51. > :19:54.budget out of the party forever but I suspect there will have to be

:19:55. > :19:57.further action on this. Before you go, Laura, there has been

:19:58. > :20:02.speculation that some kind of U-turn or at least some kind of change of

:20:03. > :20:08.the Academy policy was coming. So how are we to read the Prime

:20:09. > :20:11.Minister saying there will be Academy is in the Queens speech?

:20:12. > :20:14.That has been the question, whether or not the government would bottle

:20:15. > :20:19.it on this policy to such an extent that they wouldn't even try to put

:20:20. > :20:23.the power to force schools to become academies into the Queen's speech.

:20:24. > :20:27.What Nicky Morgan is trying to juggle our knowledge of the moment

:20:28. > :20:31.is to give guarantees about small, tiny happy rural schools,

:20:32. > :20:37.particularly primary schools, where certain Tory MPs are worried. They

:20:38. > :20:44.could soften the principal? Yes, and don't forget even last week Number

:20:45. > :20:49.Ten was emphasising, "We've got six years to discuss all this so they

:20:50. > :20:52.could put the power there but mitigate how the stick could be

:20:53. > :20:56.wielded. So not a lot happening. Laura, are you taking the rest of

:20:57. > :21:02.the week of? Taking the rest of the month. See you June 24? I a comeback

:21:03. > :21:09.June 25. Not much will changed! When Jeremy Corbyn became Leader

:21:10. > :21:11.of the Opposition back in September, he said he wanted to make PMQs less

:21:12. > :21:14.aggressive, less confrontational - with the focus on policy,

:21:15. > :21:16.not personal attacks. In a moment we'll speak

:21:17. > :21:20.to an academic who says But, first, let's get a reminder

:21:21. > :21:24.of how the Labour leader has been Many told me

:21:25. > :21:29.that they thought Prime Minister's Question Time was too

:21:30. > :21:32.theatrical, that Parliament was out of touch and too theatrical,

:21:33. > :21:35.and they wanted things done differently

:21:36. > :21:37.but, above all, they wanted their Can I welcome him to

:21:38. > :21:43.the front bench and I had more than 1,000

:21:44. > :21:59.questions on tax credits. I'm sure we will have many strong

:22:00. > :22:02.exchanges that where we can work together in a national interest, we

:22:03. > :22:03.should do. I wish him well in his job.

:22:04. > :22:07.Paul, for example, says this very heartfelt question.

:22:08. > :22:09.Why is the Government taking tax credits away

:22:10. > :22:14.The year six pupils were very interesting.

:22:15. > :22:15.Hawan, Taznia, Eamon and Maryanne

:22:16. > :22:17.asked me to say this to the Prime Minister...

:22:18. > :22:30.Martin contacted me this week, who says...

:22:31. > :22:32.OK, it's very funny for many members opposite.

:22:33. > :22:40.I thought this was the new Question Time!

:22:41. > :22:44.I'm not sure the message has fully got home!

:22:45. > :22:46.We're joined now from Nottingham by Dr Peter Bull.

:22:47. > :22:48.He has co-authored some research which shows that Mr Corbyn's

:22:49. > :22:51.tactic of using questions from the public has had some effect

:22:52. > :23:04.Welcome to the Daily Politics. So what is the impact been? Good

:23:05. > :23:08.afternoon to you. We've done a study of Corbin's use of these questions,

:23:09. > :23:13.which are sourced remember that the public, and we used two measures,

:23:14. > :23:15.one of which we called reply rate. That's simply the extent to which

:23:16. > :23:21.the Prime Minister answers the questions that are put in. In that

:23:22. > :23:26.respect, we didn't find any effect. Cameron only gives direct replies to

:23:27. > :23:28.about 20% of the questions and that doesn't matter whether they're

:23:29. > :23:32.sourced from members of the public or not sourced from members of the

:23:33. > :23:38.public. But where we did find an effect was when we looked at

:23:39. > :23:41.personal attacks. Overall, David Cameron makes almost twice as many

:23:42. > :23:47.personal attacks on Corbin is Corbin does on him but when you compare

:23:48. > :23:53.questions from members of the public with those other questions, you find

:23:54. > :23:57.his rate of personal tax drops quite significantly and it's quite similar

:23:58. > :24:00.to that of Jeremy Corbyn. So it does seem that sourcing these questions

:24:01. > :24:04.from members of the public seems to have a significant effect on the

:24:05. > :24:08.personal attacks that Cameron is making. Not answering the question,

:24:09. > :24:13.of course, is a common strategy amongst politicians that we serve me

:24:14. > :24:17.experience here on a daily basis but it's interesting in terms of using

:24:18. > :24:24.the personalised questions. Has it contributed to making PMQs more

:24:25. > :24:26.grown-up and less confrontational? Well, personal attacks are

:24:27. > :24:32.confrontational and the issue is whether you are actually making the

:24:33. > :24:36.punch and Judy show, which David Cameron Atchley criticised when he

:24:37. > :24:38.first became leader of the Conservative Party, or whether you

:24:39. > :24:41.are discussing the actual issues concerned. There seems to be some

:24:42. > :24:45.effect on these questions are sourced from members of the public

:24:46. > :24:51.but there is a greater retention to the Michu rather than these Puncheon

:24:52. > :24:56.Judy politics. You had to sit down and watch 20 sessions PMQs in a row.

:24:57. > :25:00.Was that a depressing experience or an enlightening one? I found it

:25:01. > :25:06.really rather interesting, unlike a lot of people. We've done quite a

:25:07. > :25:11.lot of PMQs. We did 20 PMQs with Ed Miliband and David Cameron for

:25:12. > :25:17.comparison purposes and I find the fine details of communication very

:25:18. > :25:21.interesting. Lisa Nandy... It's like my worst nightmare! 40 episodes

:25:22. > :25:27.PMQs! And the repeats are even better, as we heard today. Isn't

:25:28. > :25:30.that the point of PMQs? It supposed to be adversarial. Whether you're

:25:31. > :25:33.using personalised questions from the public doesn't seem to have had

:25:34. > :25:37.that much of a dramatic change because the personal attacks are

:25:38. > :25:40.still level stop I think it has changed. I've definitely noticed a

:25:41. > :25:45.change in the field in the chamber. What hasn't changed is that Cameron

:25:46. > :25:48.still doesn't answer the question but when Jeremy uses questions from

:25:49. > :25:52.the public it makes it harder for him to be so personal and so brutal

:25:53. > :25:57.and it's quite noticeable that every time Jeremy reference is a member of

:25:58. > :25:59.the public, Tory MPs grown very loudly, so they obviously don't

:26:00. > :26:04.really like it and they don't want to be held to account in that way.

:26:05. > :26:08.And credit to him, all leaders of the opposition say they are going to

:26:09. > :26:12.change PMQs. Cameron said when he was Leader of the Opposition. Jeremy

:26:13. > :26:16.has actually done it. He has put his money where his mouth is, hasn't he?

:26:17. > :26:22.I don't know if you are one of those who groans when he asks questions.

:26:23. > :26:26.But the research doesn't look very good, does it, for the Conservative

:26:27. > :26:31.Party or for David Cameron, with his high use of personal attacks? What

:26:32. > :26:35.the study sheens to show is that politicians have more respect for

:26:36. > :26:39.the public than they do fall on another. The thing about PMQs, and

:26:40. > :26:50.it's interesting how Jeremy Corbyn moved away, is that it's one thing

:26:51. > :26:53.to read at a question and be a postbox for the electric buggy art

:26:54. > :26:57.of premises questions is to use the answer you get to take forward your

:26:58. > :27:01.case and be able to probe a bit further. In the early days, I

:27:02. > :27:07.thought he was ineffective because he would simply move on to another

:27:08. > :27:12.question from a member of the public without any analysis. Dr Peter Bull,

:27:13. > :27:15.thank you very much. 20 PMQs is nothing. I've just worked

:27:16. > :27:24.out that I've covered 400 since 2003! In the last few minutes, the

:27:25. > :27:28.Home Secretary has made a statement about Hillsborough. Yesterday the

:27:29. > :27:33.jury inquest concluded 96 Liverpool fans were unlawfully killed. This is

:27:34. > :27:35.what Theresa May has just said. The decision about whether any criminal

:27:36. > :27:40.prosecution or prosecutions can be brought forward will be made by the

:27:41. > :27:44.Crown Prosecution Service on the basis of evidence gathered as part

:27:45. > :27:48.of the two ongoing investigations. That decision is not constrained in

:27:49. > :27:52.any way by the jury's conclusions. The House will understand that I

:27:53. > :27:57.cannot comment in detail on matters that may lead to a criminal

:27:58. > :28:01.investigation. I can, however, say that the offences under

:28:02. > :28:05.investigation include gross negligence, manslaughter, misconduct

:28:06. > :28:09.in public office, perverting the course of justice and perjury, as

:28:10. > :28:16.well as offences under the safety of sports grounds act 1975 and the

:28:17. > :28:20.health and safety at work act 1974. I know that those responsible for

:28:21. > :28:23.the police and IPCC investigations anticipate that they will conclude

:28:24. > :28:27.the criminal investigations by the turn of the year. We must allow them

:28:28. > :28:31.to complete their work in a timely and thorough manner and we must be

:28:32. > :28:33.mindful not to prejudice the outcome in any way. That was the Home

:28:34. > :28:36.Secretary. There's just time to put you out

:28:37. > :28:47.of your misery and give Lisa Nandy, press that red button to

:28:48. > :28:51.find the winner. Well done.

:28:52. > :28:56.That's it for the Daily Politics today. We'll be back tomorrow on BBC

:28:57. > :28:58.Two at noon as usual. I hope you can join us.