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:00:36. > :00:40.Not one but two unguarded comments filmed at

:00:41. > :00:51.Undiplomatic day at Buck House yesterday as the Queen called

:00:52. > :00:53.Chinese officials "very rude", just hours after David Cameron

:00:54. > :00:55.told her that Nigeria and Afghanistan are

:00:56. > :01:02.The two sides in the EU referendum wheel out their big guns today.

:01:03. > :01:06.Boris kicks off a Vote Leave battle bus campaign in Cornwall

:01:07. > :01:09.and Gordon Brown set out the "positive" arguments

:01:10. > :01:14.And what will Jeremy Corbyn choose to ask David Cameron

:01:15. > :01:15.at Prime Minister's Questions today?

:01:16. > :01:23.We'll have full coverage live at midday.

:01:24. > :01:26.And Brexit is getting the red carpet treatment tonight with a glitzy

:01:27. > :01:29.world premiere of 'Brexit: The Movie'.

:01:30. > :01:44.It is the single most important political decision any of us will

:01:45. > :01:49.make in our lifetime. Every continent is outgrowing Europe. It

:01:50. > :01:50.is not with in our economic interests to remain in the European

:01:51. > :02:05.Union. Why did we not get invited? We have.

:02:06. > :02:18.Oh! Have you looked out your frock? Yes. All that is coming up in the

:02:19. > :02:18.next hour and. With us for the duration,

:02:19. > :02:27.and the Shadow Foreign Secretary Hilary Benn.

:02:28. > :02:32.So, not one but two moments of candour caught on camera

:02:33. > :02:36.First, the Queen was filmed at a garden party saying Chinese

:02:37. > :02:38.officials were "very rude" to the British

:02:39. > :02:44.Her comments came just hours after the Prime Minister

:02:45. > :02:47.was recorded at an event to mark her 90th birthday talking

:02:48. > :02:50.about this week's anti-corruption summit in London.

:02:51. > :03:40.He said that Afghanistan and Nigeria were "fantastically corrupt".

:03:41. > :03:48.David Cameron there. Hillary Benn, as the President of Nigeria and

:03:49. > :03:50.Afghanistan are attending the summer, how awkward is that

:03:51. > :03:55.conversation going to be when David Cameron greet them? I think it will

:03:56. > :04:01.be a bit awkward. If you listen to what the relatively new Nigerian

:04:02. > :04:07.President is trying to do, he's trying to tackle corruption in

:04:08. > :04:09.Nigeria. If you look at the Transparency International

:04:10. > :04:10.Nigeria. If you look at the you will find that they are quite

:04:11. > :04:16.high up the list. I suppose it you will find that they are quite

:04:17. > :04:19.is almost no such thing as a private conversation. It

:04:20. > :04:20.is almost no such thing as a private They knew that Cameron was there but

:04:21. > :04:24.perhaps they didn't think They knew that Cameron was there but

:04:25. > :04:26.was full stop a diplomatic disaster or a hiccup? As Hillary said, if you

:04:27. > :04:34.look at what they or a hiccup? As Hillary said, if you

:04:35. > :04:38.Nigeria says that his country had become one of the most corrupt

:04:39. > :04:41.countries and he is tackling it. It is said he was shocked and

:04:42. > :04:48.embarrassed. Yes, but that is what he said about his own country. It is

:04:49. > :04:53.not the same as someone else saying it. That is fair, but these

:04:54. > :04:58.countries come because they know we have to do better. As a world

:04:59. > :05:03.community, we have to cooperate to do the mac -- cooperate to deal with

:05:04. > :05:08.some of the big issues around money-laundering and corruption. It

:05:09. > :05:11.is more significant in the end than the comments themselves. Do you

:05:12. > :05:15.think David Cameron was showing off? I think Hillary is right that there

:05:16. > :05:21.is no such thing as a private conversation. We all say things,

:05:22. > :05:22.is no such thing as a private don't we? Do we? Tell me. Don't we?

:05:23. > :05:24.I don't we? Do we? Tell me. Don't we?

:05:25. > :05:36.every single conversation they have... But when you have the Queen

:05:37. > :05:38.every single conversation they informal situations. The reality is,

:05:39. > :05:41.we know there are corruption problems in

:05:42. > :05:42.we know there are corruption the world. There is an index of

:05:43. > :05:46.these things, some the world. There is an index of

:05:47. > :05:51.further to go, and we are determined to achieve more. Which bit of the

:05:52. > :05:58.sentence was not true? David Cameron is right, isn't he? There is a

:05:59. > :06:02.problem. There is grand corruption, where people take large amounts of

:06:03. > :06:06.money and stuff it in their pockets or spirit it abroad, and that is why

:06:07. > :06:11.action against money laundering is important. But the result is a petty

:06:12. > :06:15.corruption. You have state officials and teachers who say, I will teach

:06:16. > :06:19.your child but I am not paid enough of a salary to look after my family

:06:20. > :06:29.and myself, so would you make a contribution? Is it happens in some

:06:30. > :06:33.countries in the world. Not here? Of course, not here. Public sector

:06:34. > :06:39.salaries are really low. There are two mac problems. You need good

:06:40. > :06:47.governance, to collect your taxes effectively. Why are we giving aid

:06:48. > :06:51.to Nigeria? Is our view is that in order to tackle some of the endemic

:06:52. > :06:57.problems, you need all sorts of things. We have been giving it over

:06:58. > :07:00.for a long time and he says they are still fantastically corrupt. You

:07:01. > :07:04.would hardly take the view that every country that does not breach

:07:05. > :07:13.our standards should not be a recipient of aid. Is it improving

:07:14. > :07:17.Rabi throwing money down the drain? -- improving or are we throwing

:07:18. > :07:29.money down the drinkers like do you stand by and do nothing, let people

:07:30. > :07:33.suffer? Public policies have to be in place to address those problems.

:07:34. > :07:37.Let's turn to the Queen and her comments about Chinese officials,

:07:38. > :07:41.because there was obviously an incident. In terms of revealing our

:07:42. > :07:45.true feelings towards Chinese official, it shows how tense that

:07:46. > :07:51.situation is between us and the Chinese on these formal state

:07:52. > :07:57.visits, doesn't it? I wasn't aware of those tensions. The Queen in

:07:58. > :08:01.particular is entitled to private conversation. I don't propose to

:08:02. > :08:08.comment on what she said. What about you, John Hayes, will you comment?

:08:09. > :08:13.Does this our things with China? It would be unpatriotic to comment on

:08:14. > :08:16.what the sovereign says. Do you want every one of your private

:08:17. > :08:20.conversations recorded? Certainly not. In those situations, if I were

:08:21. > :08:30.there and had said something untoward, what impact do you think

:08:31. > :08:33.it would have on relations? I think Her Majesty is widely respected

:08:34. > :08:36.across the world. She has a lifetime of service, recognised here and

:08:37. > :08:41.abroad, and that is what really counts. Why shouldn't she just

:08:42. > :08:45.express our opinion? She was obviously irritated by what

:08:46. > :08:51.happened. She is the sovereign, why shouldn't she say what she thinks?

:08:52. > :08:55.Because she has a particular role which she has carried out with

:08:56. > :08:59.extraordinary skill, diligence, dedication and grace over the years.

:09:00. > :09:03.Maybe she would take the view that there should not be a directional

:09:04. > :09:12.mike pointing at me while I am having a private conversation. It is

:09:13. > :09:17.the first time that I have noticed private conversations being picked

:09:18. > :09:20.up. The cameraman for Buckingham Palace is paid for by the

:09:21. > :09:27.broadcaster, but I don't know about the sound. It is interesting that

:09:28. > :09:30.you raise that. I am working on a bill in the House, the investigatory

:09:31. > :09:34.Powers Bill, which deals with these issues was not at what point and in

:09:35. > :09:38.which way should privacy be protected? It is an important

:09:39. > :09:42.discussion in our free society. We have always taken it as read that

:09:43. > :09:47.there is a public space and a private space. This is a public

:09:48. > :09:52.space. There is a camera and a microphone. It is a public event.

:09:53. > :09:57.The Queen has done these for years. She knows the score. It was her

:09:58. > :10:00.camera that was there. She knows about the sound. The Prime Minister

:10:01. > :10:07.knew it as well. They knew exactly what they were doing. There is a

:10:08. > :10:11.difference between a conversation, and this was a conversational

:10:12. > :10:15.matter, and a public statement, a pronouncement, a speech, a meeting

:10:16. > :10:20.or discussion of a formal kind. That is the difference here. So are you

:10:21. > :10:25.are not -- so you are not calling for these to be switched off? I

:10:26. > :10:30.won't discuss what the Queen does and doesn't say. This is public, and

:10:31. > :10:32.there is a microphone, so beware. And we know that the Queen watches

:10:33. > :10:39.us every day when she can. Now the elections of last

:10:40. > :10:42.week are out of the way, the EU referendum campaign has

:10:43. > :10:45.intensified on both sides. The focus is now

:10:46. > :10:47.the vote on June 23rd. Both sides have wheeled

:10:48. > :10:49.out their big guns today. Boris Johnson launched a Vote Leave

:10:50. > :10:52.battlebus tour in Cornwall and Gordon Brown made the patriotic

:10:53. > :10:56.case for Britain to remain But they are just the latest

:10:57. > :11:04.in a series of high Here's JoCo to bring

:11:05. > :11:08.us up to speed. National security took centre stage

:11:09. > :11:11.on Sunday as two former spy chiefs Jonathan Evans and John Sawers,

:11:12. > :11:21.formerly of MI5 and MI6, said counter-terrorism was a "team

:11:22. > :11:23.game" and that it was easier for countries to share

:11:24. > :11:25.data within the EU. But the Justice Secretary

:11:26. > :11:27.Michael Gove hit back, accusing the spy bosses

:11:28. > :11:31.of being "flat wrong". And the Prime Minister raised

:11:32. > :11:34.the stakes on Monday, arguing that He said Britain had brought together

:11:35. > :11:41.countries that had been "at each other's throats for decades"

:11:42. > :11:43.and that leaving the EU would risk But Boris Johnson hit back,

:11:44. > :11:47.saying it was preposterous to suggest that leaving the EU

:11:48. > :11:49.could trigger World War III. Smith tried to get the focus back

:11:50. > :11:54.on to social justice, arguing that the EU was "a friend

:11:55. > :12:12.of the haves rather morning, Gordon Brown described

:12:13. > :12:13.leaving the EU as not British and not in keeping with the spirit of

:12:14. > :12:13.Churchill. Britain is not a position only to be

:12:14. > :12:17.a member of the European Britain is in a position and should

:12:18. > :12:21.be a leader in the European This referendum if it's

:12:22. > :12:24.about anything is about what kind of Britain we are and what kind

:12:25. > :12:27.of Britain we aspire to become. We should be a leader in Europe,

:12:28. > :12:39.not just a member. We should not be fully out

:12:40. > :12:42.and we should not be half We should recognise that the world

:12:43. > :12:47.has changed since the first referendum, and we should be

:12:48. > :12:55.the advocates of cooperation in an Gordon Brown, speaking at the London

:12:56. > :13:00.School of economic. Hilary Benn, Gordon Brown took Labour to one of

:13:01. > :13:03.its worst defeats in modern times. He is distinctly less popular south

:13:04. > :13:08.of the border than he is north of the border. Is he an asset for the

:13:09. > :13:14.Remain camping? He certainly is. Look at the KC has made. This notion

:13:15. > :13:18.that we are having to listen to from the League campaign that somehow we

:13:19. > :13:23.put upon in Europe, that we have no influence, is nonsense. I think

:13:24. > :13:29.everybody knows it. In the three years that he was Prime Minister, in

:13:30. > :13:34.what way did the lead Europe? We have always played a leading part in

:13:35. > :13:39.Europe. In his time in Chancellor and the part that Europe played in

:13:40. > :13:46.making new commitments to aid and debt relief, that is leadership that

:13:47. > :13:54.helps unlock change. When he was Minister, in what way... On climate

:13:55. > :14:02.change. Everyone was in favour of that. Britain was the first country

:14:03. > :14:05.to put climate change legislation on the statute book. We did that as an

:14:06. > :14:12.individual country, not as a member of the EU. You are asking about the

:14:13. > :14:16.influence we had. The leadership that Britain gave, including during

:14:17. > :14:18.the time that Gordon was Prime Minister, on climate

:14:19. > :14:19.the time that Gordon was Prime have an impact. You are seeing the

:14:20. > :14:23.fruit of that. The have an impact. You are seeing the

:14:24. > :14:27.agreed to climate change if it hadn't been for Britain? I'm not

:14:28. > :14:33.saying that. I am saying that we are in

:14:34. > :14:34.saying that. I am saying that we are the European Union helps us to

:14:35. > :14:37.manage face in the world, whether it be

:14:38. > :14:42.climate change, the refugee face in the world, whether it be

:14:43. > :14:48.would be to deny us that shouldn't be turning our face away

:14:49. > :14:48.from an important partnership with our immediate

:14:49. > :14:55.from an important partnership with way have we lead on the refugee

:14:56. > :14:58.crisis? Europe has had a difficult time on that. The Conservative

:14:59. > :15:01.crisis? Europe has had a difficult the crisis,

:15:02. > :15:01.crisis? Europe has had a difficult Minister has had to be pushed at

:15:02. > :15:06.every stage. Minister has had to be pushed at

:15:07. > :15:10.picture of the child appeared on the front pages, he said, we have done

:15:11. > :15:16.enough for Syria. How should we have led?

:15:17. > :15:24.How should we have lead? It is European countries working together.

:15:25. > :15:28.He should not have had to be battered into agreeing to take

:15:29. > :15:34.unaccompanied, child refugees who have made their way into Europe. At

:15:35. > :15:35.least we have an institution that is trying to grapple with what you

:15:36. > :15:41.would recognise as trying to grapple with what you

:15:42. > :15:47.difficult issue. Are you worried that given Jeremy Corbyn's lukewarm

:15:48. > :15:52.attitude to him that there is a problem getting the Labour vote out

:15:53. > :15:57.for remain and that is why Mr brown could be important? We are all now

:15:58. > :16:01.making the argument. The local elections are out of the way and the

:16:02. > :16:06.Labour Party is focused on one thing only, which is winning the

:16:07. > :16:10.referendum on the 23rd of June. We have a very distinct message we are

:16:11. > :16:15.bringing because Europe has helped support workers' writes,

:16:16. > :16:19.improvements in the environment. As Gordon said today, the idea that the

:16:20. > :16:24.British way is somehow to turn our back on the European Union, the fact

:16:25. > :16:29.is we are an influential and powerful nation. I was asking you

:16:30. > :16:33.about the Labour vote because the Remain Campaign cannot win without

:16:34. > :16:38.the Labour vote coming out in substantial numbers. It looks like

:16:39. > :16:44.the conservative vote is going to split 55-45 to leave. So you need

:16:45. > :16:52.that Labour vote, agree? Yes, indeed. The vast majority of the

:16:53. > :16:55.Shadow Cabinet and the major unions, we are taking a distinct message as

:16:56. > :17:03.to why it is good for growth investment and security. We have now

:17:04. > :17:08.had two former head of MI5, one former head of MI6, 13 former

:17:09. > :17:12.leading figures in the white House, former secretaries of State, all

:17:13. > :17:17.warning about the UK leaving, all saying it would be bad about our

:17:18. > :17:26.security. What bit of that message are you not getting? Europol is

:17:27. > :17:33.taking the opposite view. There are all kinds of people who share my

:17:34. > :17:40.view. That is two. The overwhelming weight of expertise is against you.

:17:41. > :17:44.Of course Hillary is right, that many of the problems we face are pan

:17:45. > :17:49.national. And of course Gordon brown is right, the world has changed

:17:50. > :17:53.since 1975. But it means it has changed so we have to reach out well

:17:54. > :18:00.beyond Europe. I have just come from a meeting with the head of Interpol.

:18:01. > :18:06.They have reached to 190 countries. We have that whether we are in or

:18:07. > :18:14.out. Precisely, that is my point. In what way are we more secure by

:18:15. > :18:17.leaving? Two ways. There are issues about how we determine our security

:18:18. > :18:21.policy and there is a creeping attempt by the European Union to

:18:22. > :18:29.have more say over that and we have resisted that the government. Why

:18:30. > :18:32.would that make us less secure? I believe our security and

:18:33. > :18:37.intelligence services and successive governments have got security policy

:18:38. > :18:44.right. I think we do have the skills and confidence. So we have got it

:18:45. > :18:50.right as members of the EU, so why change? We do not have control. Are

:18:51. > :18:55.you seriously telling me French intelligence is going to allow

:18:56. > :19:00.Brussels of all places, after what has happened, Brussels to take

:19:01. > :19:04.control of French intelligence? The European Union has a creeping desire

:19:05. > :19:13.to take more control of security. We are resisting the government. Give

:19:14. > :19:18.me an example. They are developing a pan-European policy view about how

:19:19. > :19:29.security policy should be gauged and implemented. That is job. No, it is

:19:30. > :19:36.the fact that we want to do things at our national level. We need to

:19:37. > :19:42.share intelligence. Yes, that is operational, of course we need to

:19:43. > :19:46.share information. Were we to leave the European Union, where it is in

:19:47. > :19:51.the mutual interest of countries they will not continue to share

:19:52. > :19:57.information? Will the French and the Germans do that? Of course not. Your

:19:58. > :20:01.argument is undermined by the voices of experience, people whose job it

:20:02. > :20:05.has been to keep the nation and the country safe and to protect us and

:20:06. > :20:10.they said this would be bad for our security. We are not part of the

:20:11. > :20:14.Schengen passport free arrangement which shows we are able to exercise

:20:15. > :20:19.our own judgment on things like that, just as we are not in the

:20:20. > :20:23.euro. But we participate in sharing information through the Schengen

:20:24. > :20:28.information system. As you know, that is important to our security.

:20:29. > :20:31.Why would you want to walk away from arrangements that help to protect us

:20:32. > :20:36.when the voices of people whose day-to-day job it is, and has been,

:20:37. > :20:43.to protect as I saying that would not be a good idea. Contrary to the

:20:44. > :20:51.picture that the income paying want to paint, what I am saying is can

:20:52. > :20:55.anyone seriously believe that countries would cease to want to

:20:56. > :20:59.cooperate and share information like you describe if we were outside the

:21:00. > :21:04.EU? Of course they would not because they want to keep their people say.

:21:05. > :21:12.Let's assume we can continue to share bilaterally whether we are in

:21:13. > :21:16.or out, but, Hillary and, what intelligence would we no longer

:21:17. > :21:22.enjoy if we were not in the EU? A lot of it would depend on what

:21:23. > :21:28.happens if the nation were to vote to leave. The honest answer is we do

:21:29. > :21:34.not know. What exists among EU intelligence arrangements that we

:21:35. > :21:37.would not enjoy if we left? Would we have access to the Schengen

:21:38. > :21:44.information system. Can you explain what information Schengen shares.

:21:45. > :21:51.Where there are warning notices and other information, there has been a

:21:52. > :21:56.big step forward... Interpol do that. Hang on, the Parliament has

:21:57. > :22:00.recently agreed arrangements on sharing of data which is helping to

:22:01. > :22:06.make passenger names... We can do that already. If you filled in

:22:07. > :22:12.advance to go to the United States, that happens in America, we could do

:22:13. > :22:17.that to any country if we wanted to. We could, but you asked me what

:22:18. > :22:23.would change? And the answer is we do not know and that is the weakness

:22:24. > :22:27.of the Leave Campaign's argument. Let's take this passenger database.

:22:28. > :22:33.You have had to share passenger data to go to the US for some time and

:22:34. > :22:36.vice versa. There has been a push to get that done in Europe as well and

:22:37. > :22:42.the European institutions, the European Parliament, have stopped

:22:43. > :22:47.it. Where does that help us? It is only now they have finally agreed.

:22:48. > :22:50.As you have just answered the question, the European Parliament

:22:51. > :22:55.has now agreed to rules that would enable that data to be shared and

:22:56. > :22:58.that is a practical example of how cooperation work. It took ten years.

:22:59. > :23:04.It helps our security. We need cooperation work. It took ten years.

:23:05. > :23:09.doing things in other parts... The idea that there is some kind of

:23:10. > :23:16.competition that either we cooperate in Europe or globally, we need to do

:23:17. > :23:23.both. We need to move on. We need to move on. We have got another several

:23:24. > :23:28.weeks of this, there is no need to rush.

:23:29. > :23:30.How many days? It says 42.

:23:31. > :23:51.We don't want any "rogue markers" getting their hands on the answer

:23:52. > :23:57.We've password protected the answer, locked it in a safe behind closed

:23:58. > :24:14.And that was convenient having a guarding it with her life.

:24:15. > :24:15.And that was convenient having a rogue marker

:24:16. > :24:20.And, the only way you can win one of these is to tell

:24:21. > :24:22.# Everybody's doing a brand-new dance now.

:24:23. > :24:29.# I know you'll get to like it if you give it a chance now.

:24:30. > :24:44.# I've got that feeling again and it ain't right.

:24:45. > :25:02.# Don't take your love away from me. you want to dance?

:25:03. > :25:07.# Don't you leave my heart in misery.

:25:08. > :25:32.# If you go, then I'll be blue, because breaking up is hard to do.

:25:33. > :25:37.# Well, it started about a year ago...

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:25:51. > :26:06.It's coming up to midday here - just take a look at Big Ben -

:26:07. > :26:09.and that can mean only one thing: yes, Prime Minister's

:26:10. > :26:18.And that's not all - Laura Kuenssberg is here.

:26:19. > :26:27.So, you have got quite a strong track record, so no pressure here.

:26:28. > :26:32.What are the exact six questions that Jeremy Corbyn is going to ask

:26:33. > :26:35.today? No questions about rogue marking or leaking of anything

:26:36. > :26:39.before the real test comes. A couple of suggestions have made their way

:26:40. > :26:43.to meet this morning. One is housing because the laws and the commons are

:26:44. > :26:48.locked in because of the housing bill. Although it has not been

:26:49. > :26:54.ringing bells all over the place because politics is so busy, one

:26:55. > :26:56.minister described to me recently it is the most ideological

:26:57. > :27:00.controversial thing that the government is trying to do. I was

:27:01. > :27:06.struck by that. That would fit with Jeremy Corbyn's passions. There was

:27:07. > :27:10.another suggestion he might start to talk about the EU referendum, which

:27:11. > :27:16.is something he has not done until now. If he does, it is hard to see

:27:17. > :27:21.where he could go on it. What is the question? This morning I am not

:27:22. > :27:28.going to make a crystal clear prediction. I have made a couple of

:27:29. > :27:35.suggestions, but no leaks in the Daily Politics studio. Is there any

:27:36. > :27:39.chance you think that given the Prime Minister's quite strident

:27:40. > :27:44.attack last week on the kind of platforms that Mr Sadiq Khan was

:27:45. > :27:51.sharing, and he has no comfortably won the City Hall, more so than Mr

:27:52. > :27:57.Livingstone or Mr Johnson, is there any chance that Jeremy Corbyn may

:27:58. > :28:02.ask for our retraction or an apology or a withdrawal? That could be quite

:28:03. > :28:05.controversial. Yes, it would and it would be difficult for the Prime

:28:06. > :28:10.Minister as well. Whatever has happened in the campaign committee

:28:11. > :28:16.is now one of the most powerful politicians in the country. And he

:28:17. > :28:21.has reached out. And he has reached out in a very pointed way in

:28:22. > :28:27.contrast to Jeremy Corbyn's leadership. It would be tricky for

:28:28. > :28:35.the Prime Minister, given that last week's Prime Minister 's questions

:28:36. > :28:47.was more like Jeremy Corbyn's camp Corbyn. The Prime Minister used it

:28:48. > :28:51.as a robust defence of that Goldsmith. You never know, it would

:28:52. > :28:59.make for a very interesting positioning challenge for the Prime

:29:00. > :29:03.Minister. Is problem is when he goes on something like housing, which is

:29:04. > :29:08.hugely important, it should have been the most important subject in

:29:09. > :29:13.the London election campaign, it was not important enough for last year's

:29:14. > :29:15.general election, and it is not already up there in the headlines,

:29:16. > :29:21.unless there is some major breakthrough or development, it

:29:22. > :29:28.struggles to make its way into the news tomorrow unless there is

:29:29. > :29:31.something that PMQs. It could end up being like a paper aeroplane and end

:29:32. > :29:38.up on the floor, not hitting any of the targets. You are right,

:29:39. > :29:42.grappling with the platform you get at PMQs, like it or not, it is the

:29:43. > :29:47.best opportunity that any opposition leader has got to try to get into

:29:48. > :29:51.the mainstream debate. Because of that they tend to have the best

:29:52. > :29:56.chances of success of getting their agenda across when they choose to go

:29:57. > :30:00.on the issues that are already running at 100 miles an hour, the

:30:01. > :30:05.issues already preoccupying Westminster, those that we know the

:30:06. > :30:08.public are very concerned about. You are right, that is a problem Jeremy

:30:09. > :30:13.Corbyn has come up against, whether or not it is housing or mental

:30:14. > :30:17.health. Other issues like that are of huge importance to the country.

:30:18. > :30:33.But we should say last week, like the previous week, Labour very

:30:34. > :30:36.successfully and Lucy Powell has pushed education again and again.

:30:37. > :30:43.Nicky Morgan, the Education Secretary, has had a very difficult

:30:44. > :30:50.time. Jeremy Corbyn at PMQs was part of that campaign. The Prime Minister

:30:51. > :30:55.still tried to deny things and Innocenti won that argument and the

:30:56. > :30:58.test in which they won it is they sneaked it out on Friday when

:30:59. > :31:05.everyone was trying to digests the election results. Talk about burying

:31:06. > :31:09.bad news. I think Nicky Morgan has not got off scot-free because since

:31:10. > :31:13.then she has had a very torrid session in the House of Commond,

:31:14. > :31:19.struggling to explain precisely what the government's policy now is. The

:31:20. > :31:22.government is trying to have it both ways on academy schools. They are

:31:23. > :31:29.saying it is our intention that every school should be an academy.

:31:30. > :31:34.That was always the case. Why don't they get it when you have got such a

:31:35. > :31:39.small majority? You have got to do what used to be done, you produce a

:31:40. > :31:46.Green paper first of all to get the reactions, take into account the

:31:47. > :31:53.criticism and then go to the policy. Or do what the government used to

:31:54. > :31:57.do. In coalition they had a chord. They had a huge majority when the

:31:58. > :32:04.Lib Dems and Tories got together, 80 or so. Your viewers might say it was

:32:05. > :32:08.79. One minister said to me that all that used to have to happen was that

:32:09. > :32:13.George Osborne used to have to get Nick Clegg to agree. They used to

:32:14. > :32:19.have robust argument inside that quartet. They were tested. That

:32:20. > :32:23.internal challenge was there. Now, because they take a rather dim view

:32:24. > :32:27.of the effectiveness of the opposition, the conversation about

:32:28. > :32:41.where will the opposition pickles has gone. We go straight over.

:32:42. > :32:48.This morning, I had meetings with ministers and colleagues and I will

:32:49. > :32:53.have further meetings today. Even fantastically corrupt Nigeria

:32:54. > :32:55.is asking Britain to clean up its act and introduce beneficial

:32:56. > :33:00.ownership registers in the overseas territories. We'll be Prime Minister

:33:01. > :33:09.achieve this tomorrow at the anti-corruption Summit? -- will be

:33:10. > :33:13.Prime Minister? I want to check the microphone is on before speaking. I

:33:14. > :33:19.thank him for his question. The answer is yes. We have asked three

:33:20. > :33:24.things of the overseas territories and Crown dependencies - automatic

:33:25. > :33:27.exchange of tax information, a common reporting standard for

:33:28. > :33:30.multinational companies, and for central beneficial ownership

:33:31. > :33:34.registry so that UK enforcement can know who owns companies based there.

:33:35. > :33:37.They have delivered on the first two, and they will be following and

:33:38. > :33:47.delivering on the third. That is what he asked for and what he is

:33:48. > :33:50.getting. Mr Speaker, in my constituency there is unprecedented

:33:51. > :33:55.housing growth. Does the Prime Minister agree that we must build

:33:56. > :33:59.sufficient starter homes so that the dream of home ownership becomes

:34:00. > :34:05.something that everybody really can aspire to? I want to thank my

:34:06. > :34:10.constituency neighbour and honourable friend for raising that

:34:11. > :34:13.question. The fact is, we are building more houses right across

:34:14. > :34:17.England. We are building more affordable homes, and the

:34:18. > :34:22.legislation going through this House and the other place will make sure

:34:23. > :34:26.we deliver our pledge of 200,000 starter homes. Those are the ones we

:34:27. > :34:30.want to see, affordable for people to buy. I hope that even at this

:34:31. > :34:40.late stage, the Labour Party in the House of Lords. Blocking this bill.

:34:41. > :34:48.Jeremy Corbyn. -- the Labour Party in the house of lords will stop

:34:49. > :34:52.blocking this bill. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Since we

:34:53. > :34:57.often celebrate great national event in this House, would be Prime

:34:58. > :35:03.Minister join me in wishing Sir David Attenborough a very happy 90th

:35:04. > :35:06.birthday and thank him for the way he has presented nature programmes

:35:07. > :35:11.on television and awakened the ideas of so many people to the fragility

:35:12. > :35:19.of our ecosystem and educated a whole generation? Mr Speaker, on

:35:20. > :35:26.this side of the House, we are fully aware... I haven't asked the

:35:27. > :35:31.question yet, it's OK! We are fully aware that the European Union has

:35:32. > :35:36.strength the rights of workers in many ways. In March, while the Prime

:35:37. > :35:41.Minister was trying to undermine workers' writes with his trade union

:35:42. > :35:46.Bill, the European Commission put forward proposals to close loopholes

:35:47. > :35:51.in the posting of workers directive which would stop employers

:35:52. > :35:56.exploiting foreign workers and undercutting national rates of pay.

:35:57. > :36:00.We'll be Prime Minister confirm that his Government will protect workers

:36:01. > :36:05.and will back these reforms to stop this undercutting and grotesque

:36:06. > :36:12.exploitation of workers across this continent? First, I join the right

:36:13. > :36:15.Honourable gentleman in wishing a very happy birthday to David

:36:16. > :36:19.Attenborough. Many of us in this House feel that we grew up with him

:36:20. > :36:24.as our teacher about the natural world and the environment. He is

:36:25. > :36:30.remarkable. I am proud to say that the Royals survey ship, the Arctic

:36:31. > :36:42.ship, will be named after David Attenborough. There was strong

:36:43. > :36:45.support for Boaty McBoatface, and I think the submarine, or the life

:36:46. > :36:50.raft, on the boat will be named that. On the workers directive, we

:36:51. > :36:54.are looking closely, working with our partners. We see some merit in

:36:55. > :36:58.what is being proposed. I can say that the yellow card procedure has

:36:59. > :37:03.been invoked by national parliaments, demonstrating the

:37:04. > :37:07.importance of these safeguards, much of which we reacted -- achieved in

:37:08. > :37:13.my re-negotiation does not the best thing we can do for workers' writes

:37:14. > :37:16.in this country is celebrate the national living wage introduced by

:37:17. > :37:20.this Government. The national minimum wage was a Labour

:37:21. > :37:24.introduction. The living wage proposed by the Chancellor is a

:37:25. > :37:31.corruption of the very idea of it. It is not, in reality, a proper

:37:32. > :37:36.living wage. But, Mr Speaker, my question was about the posting of

:37:37. > :37:39.workers directive which would prevent the grotesque exploitation

:37:40. > :37:44.by unscrupulous employers of workers being moved from one nation to

:37:45. > :37:50.another in order to undercut the wages of the second nation. We'll be

:37:51. > :37:53.Prime Minister be absolutely clear? Will be British Government support

:37:54. > :37:59.this very important reform to stop this exploitation? As I said, we are

:38:00. > :38:03.working with the Dutch presidency. We think there is merit in a lot of

:38:04. > :38:07.the proposals, but we want to make sure we get the details right. Let

:38:08. > :38:14.me pull them up on something - he has described the national living

:38:15. > :38:20.wage as a corruption. It is ?7.20 per hour, a ?20 per week pay writers

:38:21. > :38:25.of the poorest in our country. I really think he ought to get up and

:38:26. > :38:32.say he supports the national living wage and thanks the Government for

:38:33. > :38:36.introducing it. I support a wage rise, obviously does not the point I

:38:37. > :38:46.am making is that it is not a living wage. It is not a living wage as is

:38:47. > :38:50.generally understood. Mr Speaker, saying yes seems to be one of the

:38:51. > :38:56.hardest word for the Prime Minister. For radar time, could he say whether

:38:57. > :39:00.he does or does not support the posting of workers directive? He

:39:01. > :39:03.might be aware that Patrick Minford, a former economic adviser to

:39:04. > :39:09.Margaret Thatcher, has said that the European Union has a negative effect

:39:10. > :39:15.on the City of London, and he would want the shackles European

:39:16. > :39:20.regulation removed. Does the Prime Minister believed that membership

:39:21. > :39:25.hurts the City of London, or does he believe that European Union

:39:26. > :39:33.regulation of the finance sector in Britain and British- administered

:39:34. > :39:37.tax havens would help the sort of bad practice exposed by the Panama

:39:38. > :39:43.papers or underlined by my friend in his earlier question today? This is

:39:44. > :39:47.an area where we basically agree about the European Union, so I will

:39:48. > :39:52.try to identify a question and answer as positively as I can. On

:39:53. > :39:58.Patrick Minford, I completely disagree with the Economist Patrick

:39:59. > :40:01.Minford. He wants to see manufacturing industry in our

:40:02. > :40:06.country obliterate it, and I think it would be disastrous to follow his

:40:07. > :40:11.advice. In terms of the City of London, we need the right regulation

:40:12. > :40:15.for the City of London to continue its massive rate of job creation and

:40:16. > :40:19.wealth creation in our country, but we also need to remain members of

:40:20. > :40:23.the single market because it is absolutely vital for this important

:40:24. > :40:29.sector of our economy. I hope that on that, as on the national living

:40:30. > :40:36.wage, we can find some agreement. The question I also put the Prime

:40:37. > :40:45.Minister, which perhaps he wasn't listening to, was what he was going

:40:46. > :40:51.to do... What I asked was what he's going to do about the UK-

:40:52. > :40:56.administered tax havens which receive large sums of money from

:40:57. > :41:02.dodgy sources which should and must be closed down, as should any tax

:41:03. > :41:05.evasion in the City of London. We need a British Government that is

:41:06. > :41:11.prepared to chase down this level of corruption. This Government has done

:41:12. > :41:16.more than any previous Government to deal with this issue, making sure

:41:17. > :41:21.that our overseas territories and Crown dependencies are not tax

:41:22. > :41:25.behave -- tax havens but behave in a responsible way. We are now taking

:41:26. > :41:29.part in the automatic exchange of tax information, which didn't happen

:41:30. > :41:31.before. We have signed up to a common reporting standard for

:41:32. > :41:36.multinational companies, which didn't happen before. And there will

:41:37. > :41:41.be central registry so we can find out who owns the companies. All of

:41:42. > :41:45.these things are real progress. Of course, we would like to go further

:41:46. > :41:48.in her public registry is beneficial ownership, as we are introducing in

:41:49. > :41:53.this country, not because of the Labour Government but because of a

:41:54. > :41:59.decision by a Conservative Prime Minister, but where I would urge him

:42:00. > :42:03.to be fair is that many of the Crown dependencies have gone much further

:42:04. > :42:07.than many developed countries. Indeed, you actually get more

:42:08. > :42:09.information now out of some of our Crown dependencies and overseas

:42:10. > :42:13.territories than you would out of the United States in terms of

:42:14. > :42:18.Delaware. Let's be fair on these, for which we have a responsibility,

:42:19. > :42:23.we are making them improve their record and he should acknowledge it.

:42:24. > :42:27.we are making them improve their Mr Speaker, a month ago, the Prime

:42:28. > :42:28.Minister informed the House that he welcomed the European Union

:42:29. > :42:37.proposals on country by country taxed transparency reporting. We

:42:38. > :42:40.agreed with that. Yet, on the 26th of April, Conservative MEPs voted

:42:41. > :42:48.against these proposals. Did they not received the memo of what?

:42:49. > :42:53.People expect that people pay their tax in this country. Tomorrow, the

:42:54. > :42:58.European Parliament will be voting again on country by country

:42:59. > :43:00.reporting. Can he assure the House that Conservative members of the

:43:01. > :43:07.European Parliament will support these measures as he told us they

:43:08. > :43:09.European Parliament will support thing is that we support these

:43:10. > :43:13.measures. The Government supports these measures. Indeed, these

:43:14. > :43:18.measures have only come forward because it has been a Conservative

:43:19. > :43:22.Government in the United Kingdom proposing them. The only area of

:43:23. > :43:25.disagreement, I would suspect, between himself and myself is, I

:43:26. > :43:33.don't think we between himself and myself is, I

:43:34. > :43:35.has always been a position of Labour Government and previous Conservative

:43:36. > :43:40.governments, that while we want to make sure that these territories

:43:41. > :43:49.behave properly, we don't actually make them set a minimum tax rate.

:43:50. > :43:52.That is the difference between us. If he wants to swap voting records

:43:53. > :43:55.of Labour and Tory MEPs, let's have a whole session, because I have

:43:56. > :44:12.plenty of material in here. That was a very long answer... When he could

:44:13. > :44:19.have quite simply said whether or not he supports these proposals, and

:44:20. > :44:27.if his Conservative MEPs will vote for them. Mr Speaker, the Prime

:44:28. > :44:32.Minister will be very well aware of the concern across the whole country

:44:33. > :44:38.about the question of unaccompanied child refugees across Europe. They

:44:39. > :44:41.are in a desperate plight and a dangerous situation. Everyone's

:44:42. > :44:46.heart reaches out to them, but we have to do more than that and be

:44:47. > :44:50.practical in our help for them. I got a letter this week from a

:44:51. > :44:55.voluntary worker with child refugees called Hannah. She wrote about these

:44:56. > :44:59.children, some of whom have family members in this country. Can the

:45:00. > :45:06.Prime Minister confirm that in respect of the response to Lord dubs

:45:07. > :45:08.amendment, there will be no delay whatsoever in accepting 3000

:45:09. > :45:12.unaccompanied child refugees into this country to give them the

:45:13. > :45:18.support they need and allow them to enjoy the childhood they and all our

:45:19. > :45:23.children deserve? All I can say is that we will follow his amendment.

:45:24. > :45:27.That is now the law the land. The amendment says we have to consult

:45:28. > :45:32.very carefully with local authorities to make sure that as we

:45:33. > :45:36.take these children in we are able to house them, clothe them and feed

:45:37. > :45:41.them, make sure the properly looked after. So we need to look at the

:45:42. > :45:45.capacity of our care system. If you look at some councils, particularly

:45:46. > :45:47.in Kent and southern England, they are already struggling because of

:45:48. > :45:53.the number unaccompanied children who come in. Two figures, last year,

:45:54. > :45:58.3000 unaccompanied children arrived and claimed asylum in the UK even

:45:59. > :46:03.before the scheme that is being introduced. Second, under Dublin,

:46:04. > :46:08.children with a connection to the UK can already claim asylum in France

:46:09. > :46:12.or Italy then come to the UK. We have accepted 30 such transfers

:46:13. > :46:16.since February. What I can say is, there will be no delay, we will get

:46:17. > :46:18.on with it as fast as we can, but in order to follow the law we have to

:46:19. > :46:28.talk to local authorities first. During President Obama's recent

:46:29. > :46:31.visit, was the Prime Minister able to talk to him about the Chinese

:46:32. > :46:36.dumping of steel and the robust action he has taken in the United

:46:37. > :46:46.States to address it, including increasing tariffs to 288%? Will he

:46:47. > :46:52.increased the tariffs and tell the Chinese to go to the back of the

:46:53. > :46:56.line? I did discuss this with President Obama and both the

:46:57. > :47:01.European Union and the US have taken action against Chinese dumping. The

:47:02. > :47:06.excess steel capacity in China is 25 times higher than the UK's entire

:47:07. > :47:12.production. The anti-dumping tariffs we have produced in the EU have been

:47:13. > :47:17.very effective and in some areas have reduced Chinese exports to as

:47:18. > :47:21.much as 98%. EU action does work and if we were outside the EU, we might

:47:22. > :47:30.be subject to those tariffs ourselves. The Prime Minister's

:47:31. > :47:35.government was elected with 37% of the vote, so I am sure he would

:47:36. > :47:41.acknowledge the success of Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP in being

:47:42. > :47:48.returned victoriously for a third time with 46%, the highest of any

:47:49. > :47:53.political party in national elections anywhere currently in

:47:54. > :47:57.Western Europe. Mr Speaker, on the anti-corruption Summit, has the

:47:58. > :48:02.Prime Minister read the appeals from Nigerian campaigners who say, our

:48:03. > :48:08.efforts are sadly undermined if countries such as your own are

:48:09. > :48:13.welcoming our corrupt to hide their ill gotten gains in your luxury

:48:14. > :48:17.homes, department stores, car dealerships and private schools and

:48:18. > :48:25.anywhere else that will accept their cash with no questions asked? The

:48:26. > :48:33.role of London's property as vessels to hide this money, what is the

:48:34. > :48:38.Prime Minister going to do about this? I am delighted to congratulate

:48:39. > :48:51.Nicola Sturgeon on her victory, as I want to congratulate Ruth Davidson

:48:52. > :48:56.on Harris. We have something in common, the SNP have gone from a

:48:57. > :49:02.majority to a minority, while the Conservatives have gone from

:49:03. > :49:06.coalition to a majority. Next week he can get on with asking me how we

:49:07. > :49:11.are getting on with ordering some more pandas for Edinburgh zoo. The

:49:12. > :49:14.question he asks about the corruption Summit is right. The

:49:15. > :49:20.whole point about holding this summit is to say that the action is

:49:21. > :49:25.necessary by developed countries as well as developing countries. One of

:49:26. > :49:29.the steps we are making is that foreign companies have to declare

:49:30. > :49:33.with the beneficial owner is to make sure that plundered money from

:49:34. > :49:38.African countries cannot be hidden in London. It would be helpful if he

:49:39. > :49:42.could confirm that that list would be publicly available and not just

:49:43. > :49:45.accessible to the police. Seeing as the Prime Minister is prepared to

:49:46. > :49:50.lecture other countries on corruption, could he explain why

:49:51. > :49:53.seven police forces in the UK have launched criminal investigations

:49:54. > :50:02.into Conservative MPs for potential electoral fraud? Mr Speaker, it is

:50:03. > :50:05.very serious, so how is it that a Conservative crime and policing

:50:06. > :50:10.commissioner can serve in such a role when being under police

:50:11. > :50:16.investigation? First of all, let's be clear about this anti-corruption

:50:17. > :50:20.Summit. Nobody is lecturing anybody. One of the reasons this issue does

:50:21. > :50:24.not get addressed is because countries and politicians are too

:50:25. > :50:29.worried about addressing it, knowing that no country is perfect, nor is

:50:30. > :50:34.any politician. It is right for Britain to take this lead, not least

:50:35. > :50:39.because we meet our contribution on aid, but we are entitled to raise

:50:40. > :50:46.this issue. As for the electoral commission, the whole point is it is

:50:47. > :50:50.independent and when it comes to operation on decisions by a police

:50:51. > :50:56.force they are independent as well. That is the hallmark of a

:50:57. > :50:59.non-corrupt country. I know my right honourable friend will want to join

:51:00. > :51:05.with me in congratulating Katie born who was re-elected as the Police and

:51:06. > :51:12.Crime Commissioner, topping the poll in Crawley, significantly for her

:51:13. > :51:17.work in helping victims. In that respect, will the Prime Minister

:51:18. > :51:23.introduce a British bill of rights as soon as possible? I am happy to

:51:24. > :51:28.make that commitment and let me join him in congratulating all the

:51:29. > :51:33.candidates who were successful. In a minute. What we saw in the Police

:51:34. > :51:40.and Crime Commissioner elections was a very large increase in turnout,

:51:41. > :51:46.sometimes as much as 25% point increase in turnout. This new role

:51:47. > :51:50.in our country is bedding in well. I am happy to congratulate Carwyn

:51:51. > :51:55.Jones, Arlene Foster, who will be First Minister of Northern Ireland.

:51:56. > :52:01.I spoke to her and the Deputy First Minister yesterday. I also

:52:02. > :52:04.congratulate Sadiq Khan who won a victory in London and we look

:52:05. > :52:11.forward to working with him for the benefit of Londoners. When Hall was

:52:12. > :52:13.left out of the government's plans for rail electrification for the

:52:14. > :52:15.North, whole business got for rail electrification for the

:52:16. > :52:21.and produce a privately financed scheme to do the work for the

:52:22. > :52:25.and produce a privately financed of Culture, 2017. It has been with

:52:26. > :52:27.the Department for Transport for two years. Does the Prime Minister think

:52:28. > :52:30.their attitude shows years. Does the Prime Minister think

:52:31. > :52:36.indifference to the scheme years. Does the Prime Minister think

:52:37. > :52:40.been put forward with private money? The honourable lady is being unfair

:52:41. > :52:43.on the department, not least because passengers will benefit from 500

:52:44. > :52:50.brand-new carriages and the passengers will benefit from 500

:52:51. > :52:53.of outdated trains. ?1.4 million of investment is going into the station

:52:54. > :52:57.to be delivered before it becomes the UK City of Culture. The

:52:58. > :53:00.Department for Transport is the UK City of Culture. The

:53:01. > :53:03.considering the case to complete electrification

:53:04. > :53:07.considering the case to complete how. We make these investments

:53:08. > :53:12.because we are investing in our infrastructure and have a strong

:53:13. > :53:20.economy. I recently visited Silent Night, will the Prime Minister join

:53:21. > :53:26.me in congratulating them on the success of this scheme which has

:53:27. > :53:32.allowed them to award all of their 1000 employees with a ?250 thank you

:53:33. > :53:38.bonus? I am happy to join my honourable friend in congratulating

:53:39. > :53:43.them. I remember visiting them in 2014. They employed 800 people.

:53:44. > :53:48.They're now employ 1100 people and that is a good example of a business

:53:49. > :53:52.expanding under this government. They are big backers of

:53:53. > :53:58.apprenticeships and our target is 3 million apprenticeships under this

:53:59. > :54:02.Parliament. Already in 2016, at least 46 women have been murdered in

:54:03. > :54:09.the UK. This number would be much higher if not for specialist

:54:10. > :54:12.refuges. I am standing to bake the Prime Minister to exempt refuge

:54:13. > :54:20.accommodation from the changes to housing benefit. This will certainly

:54:21. > :54:23.close services. I do not want to hear a stock answer about the 40

:54:24. > :54:28.million over the next few years. He knows that that will not stop

:54:29. > :54:35.refuges setting. Will he choose to save lives? Please. The honourable

:54:36. > :54:38.lady raises an important point and that is why we delayed the

:54:39. > :54:42.introduction of this change so we could look at all of the possible

:54:43. > :54:51.consequences and make sure we get it right so that we can help vulnerable

:54:52. > :54:56.people. HIV infection rates in the UK are on the rise. My right

:54:57. > :55:04.honourable friend will be aware that NHS England have refused to fund

:55:05. > :55:08.pre-exposure prophylactic treatment. Will my right honourable friend meet

:55:09. > :55:13.with me and leading aids charities so that we can review this

:55:14. > :55:17.unacceptable decision? My understanding is that NHS England

:55:18. > :55:21.are considering their commissioning responsibility. I want them to reach

:55:22. > :55:27.a decision on this quickly this month if possible. There is a rising

:55:28. > :55:30.rate of infection that these treatments can help and make a

:55:31. > :55:37.difference too. We are planning trial sites. They are already under

:55:38. > :55:41.way and we are investing ?2 million to support this. I will make sure he

:55:42. > :55:49.gets the meetings he needs to make progress with this. In my first year

:55:50. > :55:53.as an MP every person in my constituency advice surgery has been

:55:54. > :55:56.an anxious council tenant, usually mother, father and two children

:55:57. > :56:01.living in a one-bedroom flat and they are often in tears. They cannot

:56:02. > :56:05.afford to rent in the private market and they cannot afford to buy their

:56:06. > :56:10.council flat and they cannot afford a starter home. With the Prime

:56:11. > :56:15.Minister explain that I can read to them from Hansard White in his view

:56:16. > :56:20.the Housing Bill will not make their intolerable situation worse I see

:56:21. > :56:24.Mark what I would say is there are a series of things that will help

:56:25. > :56:29.them. First of all, making sure the right to buy is therefore a housing

:56:30. > :56:33.association tenants as well as council tenants with the full

:56:34. > :56:37.discount makes a difference. Because you have got help to buy, which

:56:38. > :56:42.means people need a smaller amount of equity to buy their house, that

:56:43. > :56:47.helps as well. Starter homes will make a difference because they will

:56:48. > :56:54.be more affordable. Added to that, shared accommodation homes means

:56:55. > :56:58.that where you previously needed a deposit of ?30,000, you may be able

:56:59. > :57:03.to buy a house for just a few thousand pounds deposit. All of

:57:04. > :57:07.those things make a difference and for those in estate that need

:57:08. > :57:11.regeneration we are backing the regeneration that never happened

:57:12. > :57:16.under a Labour government. I am proud this government has delivered

:57:17. > :57:20.a record low unemployment levels in my constituency of 6%. This

:57:21. > :57:27.government delivered the Cardiff city deal, and investment into

:57:28. > :57:34.infrastructure. Does the Prime Minister share my eagerness to see

:57:35. > :57:40.electrification of the city and Valley lines delivered in Wales? My

:57:41. > :57:45.honourable friend is right to raise these issues because the money is

:57:46. > :57:50.there and now, frankly, with a new Welsh government in place we need

:57:51. > :57:55.the action, particularly on the M4. We have given the Welsh government

:57:56. > :57:59.500 million increased borrowing powers, the delay in upgrading the

:58:00. > :58:08.motorway is damaging business in South Wales and it is high time the

:58:09. > :58:13.Welsh government got on with it. Mr Speaker, a report claims it is money

:58:14. > :58:25.rather than religious fervour that attracts recruitment to Isis, while

:58:26. > :58:29.the Syrian army pays less money and Isis can pay more money due to its

:58:30. > :58:33.funding and sophistication. Does the Prime Minister need much more needs

:58:34. > :58:42.to be done to offer alternative economic avenues for Syrians and to

:58:43. > :58:45.undermine the brains behind Isis? I agree with what he says about

:58:46. > :58:52.development and aid and that is why we have a serious aid budget. Right

:58:53. > :58:56.now in Syria it is difficult to get aid and benefit through. If we truly

:58:57. > :59:02.see this as them recruiting people because they are paying them, we

:59:03. > :59:05.would miss the point. The cancer of Islamist extremist violence is

:59:06. > :59:10.damaging our world and our country and not just in Syria and we have to

:59:11. > :59:17.understand the nature of that extremism if we are to defeat it. A

:59:18. > :59:22.business park in my constituency will create 300,000 new jobs. Will

:59:23. > :59:33.the Prime Minister join me in congratulating its first new talent,

:59:34. > :59:39.Fat Face? I think the claimant count in his constituency has fallen by a

:59:40. > :59:43.staggering 52% since 2010, and we need to keep on with this by making

:59:44. > :59:47.sure we are expanding the training and the apprentice that make sure

:59:48. > :59:56.that young people get the jobs. The Prime Minister said that the UK was

:59:57. > :00:00.becoming a surveillance state and he promised to sweep the whole edifice

:00:01. > :00:06.away. That he has made a U-turn and his investigative Powers Bill

:00:07. > :00:13.proposes to retain a record of everybody in the UK. Why is he

:00:14. > :00:17.championing ineffective mass surveillance in government? I

:00:18. > :00:21.disagree with the honourable gentleman and I hope he will follow

:00:22. > :00:26.and listen to the debates that take place on this vital bill. The fact

:00:27. > :00:31.is if you want to make sure that we can keep our country safe, just as

:00:32. > :00:35.we have been able to see the Communications data when two people

:00:36. > :00:39.talk to each other on a mobile phone or a fixed phone, so if that

:00:40. > :00:44.conversation is taking place on an Internet site, is he happy for plots

:00:45. > :00:57.to be hatched, terrorism to be planned,

:00:58. > :01:01.murderers to be arranged, because people are using an Internet site

:01:02. > :01:03.rather than a telephone? My answer is no. We have to modernise our

:01:04. > :01:06.capabilities to keep our country safe and that is what this bill is

:01:07. > :01:10.about. My right honourable friend said in 2015 that access to the

:01:11. > :01:15.Internet should not be a luxury, but right. The press release said that

:01:16. > :01:20.every home and business would have access to fast broadband by the hand

:01:21. > :01:25.this Parliament. With my right honourable friend say today that

:01:26. > :01:25.this Parliament. With my right this commitment will be honoured? My

:01:26. > :01:33.right honourable friend will have to wait for the Queen's speech when we

:01:34. > :01:34.set out how we are going to make this access available to our

:01:35. > :01:41.citizens. Will the Prime Minister this access available to our

:01:42. > :01:47.work with the Scottish Government to blood delivery of funding for the

:01:48. > :01:50.Tay area, Dundee and the surrounding area? I

:01:51. > :01:55.Tay area, Dundee and the surrounding commitment. I think city deals are

:01:56. > :01:58.working. They are working in Scotland

:01:59. > :02:02.working. They are working in for the Aberdeen city deal. City

:02:03. > :02:10.working. They are working in deals can only work if we are all

:02:11. > :02:13.part of one happy United Kingdom. Respected journalist Laura

:02:14. > :02:18.Kuenssberg has been subjected to an online hate campaign which appears

:02:19. > :02:22.to be a sexist witchhunt to silence her. Increasingly this is a tool

:02:23. > :02:27.used against people in public life by those who take an opposing view.

:02:28. > :02:28.Will my right honourable friend condemned this kind of harassment

:02:29. > :02:33.and will he work with condemned this kind of harassment

:02:34. > :02:39.social media platforms to reserve the right to speak freely without

:02:40. > :02:44.intimidation or hate? We must be able to speak freely and we must

:02:45. > :02:46.have a robust and lively democracy, but some of the things people say on

:02:47. > :02:52.twitter, knowing that they are in some way anonymous, are frankly

:02:53. > :02:58.appalling and people should be ashamed of the sort of sexist

:02:59. > :03:05.bullying that often takes place. Last week London elected the new

:03:06. > :03:11.Mayor... With an overwhelming mandate to tackle London's housing

:03:12. > :03:16.crisis, a crisis many of us fear the Housing Bill will make worse. Last

:03:17. > :03:18.April the Prime Minister launched a manifesto promising to replace

:03:19. > :03:24.council houses with affordable homes in the same area. Why is he

:03:25. > :03:26.proposing an amendment to the Housing Bill this afternoon which

:03:27. > :03:32.implements last year's manifesto commitments? Let me again

:03:33. > :03:36.congratulate Sadiq Khan for his victory and we look forward to

:03:37. > :03:41.working with him on issues that matter to Londoners. I would put the

:03:42. > :03:45.question back to the honourable lady. Our Housing Bill means that

:03:46. > :03:52.every high-value properties sold will mean two new affordable homes

:03:53. > :03:57.in London. Why is it the Labour Party and the other plays are

:03:58. > :04:02.opposing what will mean more houses, more affordable housing and more

:04:03. > :04:11.home ownership? They talk a good game, but at the end of the day they

:04:12. > :04:16.are the enemies of aspiration. During military operations in

:04:17. > :04:20.Afghanistan, British forces were reliant on local interpreters who

:04:21. > :04:29.constantly put themselvess in harm's way. I saw with my own eyes how

:04:30. > :04:32.brave these interpreters work. Does he agree it is a stain on our

:04:33. > :04:35.honoured that we have abandoned a large number of them to be

:04:36. > :04:40.threatened by the Taliban. Some have been murdered and others have had to

:04:41. > :04:44.flee in fear of their lives. We owe them a huge debt of gratitude and

:04:45. > :04:51.honour and we must provide safety and sanctuary for them here. We

:04:52. > :04:53.debated and discussed around the National Security Council table in

:04:54. > :04:57.the Coalition Government and announced in the House of commons a

:04:58. > :05:01.scheme to make sure that those people who had helped our forces in

:05:02. > :05:06.terms of translation and other services were given the opportunity

:05:07. > :05:10.of coming here. We set up one scheme to encourage that and another

:05:11. > :05:15.generous scheme to try and encourage those who wanted to stay, or who had

:05:16. > :05:20.not been translated for a long period, to stay in Afghanistan and

:05:21. > :05:24.help rebuild that country. It is important to have both schemes in

:05:25. > :05:28.place, rather than to say that everyone can come to the UK. Let's

:05:29. > :05:33.back Afghans to rebuild their own country. The Prime Minister has

:05:34. > :05:39.confirmed to me that should we leave the EU, then the European funding

:05:40. > :05:44.for the very poorest parts of Wales will cease. Will he confirm that in

:05:45. > :05:49.such a case the UK Government would make up such a difference? The point

:05:50. > :05:53.I would make to the honourable gentleman, as I would to anyone

:05:54. > :05:58.asking what would happen if we were to leave, is I do not think we could

:05:59. > :06:02.give a guarantee. I want to go on making sure that poor regions and

:06:03. > :06:08.part of our country are properly supported. If, as I think it is the

:06:09. > :06:12.case, that we would find our economy hit by leaving and our tax receipts,

:06:13. > :06:17.that will impact the amount of funding we can put into agriculture,

:06:18. > :06:27.research and poor are part of our country. The right option is boat to

:06:28. > :06:31.remain in. Can I support the Prime Minister in his comments about

:06:32. > :06:35.Nigeria and Afghanistan? I want to ask him if he will stop pouring

:06:36. > :06:39.hundreds of millions of pounds of taxpayers' money into those

:06:40. > :06:46.countries until they have cleaned up their act. Can he tell us where he

:06:47. > :06:54.has the European Union in his leak of corruption? I thank my honourable

:06:55. > :07:03.friend for his help and support and his tips on diplomacy as well. They

:07:04. > :07:07.are useful. Countries like Nigeria and Afghanistan, their leaders are

:07:08. > :07:11.battling hard against very corrupt systems and countries. In both cases

:07:12. > :07:14.they have made remarkable steps forward and I am keen to welcome

:07:15. > :07:20.them to the anti-corruption conference in London. But I do not

:07:21. > :07:24.think it would be right to withdraw the aid that we give because the

:07:25. > :07:28.problems in those countries come back and haunt us here, whether it

:07:29. > :07:34.is problems of migration or terrorism and all the rest of it. We

:07:35. > :07:40.are a country involved in a dangerous, global world and I our

:07:41. > :07:49.aid budget, 0.7%, alongside our defence budget, 2%, a way of keeping

:07:50. > :07:54.us safe in a dangerous world as well as fulfilling our moral

:07:55. > :08:01.responsibilities. The noise makes it necessary to outdo the Barclays

:08:02. > :08:10.Premier League matches in terms of injury time. It is a pleasure to

:08:11. > :08:14.recall Jill Furniss. 22 years ago we saw in the country's biggest

:08:15. > :08:28.sporting disaster. It is true we will not have the truth. Will the

:08:29. > :08:31.Prime Minister initiate an enquiry? The Home Secretary has met with that

:08:32. > :08:35.group and is considering the point is that they have put forward and

:08:36. > :08:42.they will come to their conclusions in the right time. Business leaders

:08:43. > :08:47.in Cornwall and up and down the country are awaiting news on airport

:08:48. > :08:50.expansion in the South East. Following this morning's

:08:51. > :08:55.announcement by Heathrow airport that they are accepting all the

:08:56. > :09:00.recommendations, and can the Prime Minister update the House and does

:09:01. > :09:08.he agree that the third runway at Heathrow offers the best for

:09:09. > :09:12.prosperity for our country? With my many unforced errors in the last 24

:09:13. > :09:16.hours, can I apologise to the honourable lady because I should

:09:17. > :09:20.have welcomed her to the House of commons and congratulated her on her

:09:21. > :09:26.by-election victory. She has already lost no time in speaking up for her

:09:27. > :09:29.constituents in a very powerful way. As we announced earlier this year,

:09:30. > :09:34.there are issues of air quality that need to be resolved. We are on our

:09:35. > :09:37.way to working out how to resolve them and when we do we welcome back

:09:38. > :09:44.to the House and announce happens next. My constituent's mother was

:09:45. > :09:49.killed in 1981 and at the time it was covered up as a suicide pact.

:09:50. > :09:54.But 18 years later it was discovered she was murdered by her father and

:09:55. > :09:58.his mistress. No one can imagine that the pain and suffering that her

:09:59. > :10:03.and her family have had to endure. But they now have had to relive this

:10:04. > :10:08.pain because ITV are dramatising their whole ordeal completely

:10:09. > :10:12.against their wishes, using not only their real names, but also her own.

:10:13. > :10:16.I have raised this with ITV and Ofcom and no rules have been broken,

:10:17. > :10:21.but does the Prime Minister not agree that victims' voices should

:10:22. > :10:26.have a far greater role? Will he meet with me and my constituent to

:10:27. > :10:31.discuss what more could have been done in this situation and how we

:10:32. > :10:35.can strengthen the regulation in future to protect victims? I was not

:10:36. > :10:41.aware of the case the honourable lady rightly raises. I remember my

:10:42. > :10:45.time working in the TV industry when there are times when these decisions

:10:46. > :10:48.are made that can cause a huge amount of hurt and upset to

:10:49. > :10:52.families. I will discuss this case to the culture Secretary and bring

:10:53. > :11:00.it to his attention and see if there is anything else that can be done.

:11:01. > :11:13.it to his attention and see if there Yesterday the local lord prior... I

:11:14. > :11:19.am happy to look at this issue closely. It is necessary to

:11:20. > :11:24.differentiate between smoking and e-cigarette because they have very

:11:25. > :11:28.different health effects. That is what is being achieved, but I will

:11:29. > :11:41.look carefully into this. Mr Tim Farron. Order! Order! However

:11:42. > :11:54.irritating the honourable gentleman... May be to government

:11:55. > :12:02.backbenchers, he has a right to be heard and he will be heard. Mr Tim

:12:03. > :12:11.Farron. I am grateful to you Mr Speaker. I heard the Prime Minister

:12:12. > :12:14.on two occasions this afternoon congratulate the new Mayor of

:12:15. > :12:21.London, Sadiq Khan, and I would like to repeat that myself. He did not

:12:22. > :12:28.apologise for the disgraceful racist campaign the Party chose to run in

:12:29. > :12:33.that campaign. Will he apologise for deliberately dividing communities in

:12:34. > :12:38.order to win cheap votes? It is a great way to end the session,

:12:39. > :12:38.getting a lesson in clean campaigning from the Liberal

:12:39. > :13:06.Democrats! That was probably the longest PMQs,

:13:07. > :13:13.apart from last week, which was also long. On current trends, PMQs will

:13:14. > :13:16.go one to 1pm. And by my cultivation, till mid October. We

:13:17. > :13:21.may need an extension on the Daily Politics to take us through to

:13:22. > :13:25.1:30pm. For the second week in a row, it was a strange PMQs. Last

:13:26. > :13:29.week was strange because the Prime Minister kept asking questions of

:13:30. > :13:34.the Leader of the Opposition. This week, it was strange because, much

:13:35. > :13:39.as we pride ourselves on new -- knowing the details of political

:13:40. > :13:43.discourse and issues, because we are anoraks to such thing, we frankly at

:13:44. > :13:47.the beginning had no idea what Jeremy Corbyn was talking about. It

:13:48. > :13:52.turns out, because we do our research, that it is a posted

:13:53. > :13:57.workers directive, issued by the European Commission will stop a

:13:58. > :14:05.posted worker is not a postal worker, that is different. A posted

:14:06. > :14:09.worker is defined by European law as an employee who is sent by his or

:14:10. > :14:13.her employer to carry out a service in another member state for a

:14:14. > :14:20.temporary period. What the directive is trying to do is to say, if these

:14:21. > :14:25.workers are posted from, say, to Poland -- from Poland to France by

:14:26. > :14:28.their employer to do a particular job, they should be paid the same

:14:29. > :14:33.money as they are the people they are working with in that particular

:14:34. > :14:38.factory or whatever. The interesting thing, which is why it is not

:14:39. > :14:42.entirely a matter for the British, is that the 11 EU member states have

:14:43. > :14:50.shown a yellow card to this proposal. Estonia, Hungary,

:14:51. > :14:56.Slovakia, Bulgaria, Croatia, the Czech parliament, Latvia, Lithuania

:14:57. > :15:01.and Romania have all put a yellow card. They don't like this. They are

:15:02. > :15:06.likely worried it would be nuts of these workers would not then be

:15:07. > :15:13.posted to these jobs. I know you are sitting on the edge of your chair on

:15:14. > :15:17.this. There are almost 2 million posted workers in the EU,

:15:18. > :15:25.representing 0.7% of EU employment and almost 40 -- 50%, 44% to be

:15:26. > :15:29.exact, are in the construction business. There you go. Ask me

:15:30. > :15:34.anything you want to know about posted workers. I think you have

:15:35. > :15:39.told us. What did have your say? The viewers agree with you - they

:15:40. > :15:47.weren't quite up to scratch on what Martin from Stockport calls that

:15:48. > :15:51.posting workers directive stop. -- workers directive. Why can't he ask

:15:52. > :15:57.about things we understand and care about? Michael in Lincolnshire says,

:15:58. > :16:01.he has to stop focusing on menu sure when asking questions and learn to

:16:02. > :16:13.use sound bites. Until he does, David Cameron will run rings random

:16:14. > :16:19.stop. -- run rings round him. A huge mandate the labour, says one viewer,

:16:20. > :16:24.the greatest city on the planet and doesn't it deserve a mention?

:16:25. > :16:32.Another viewer says, dancing round menu sure on the EU. Someone else

:16:33. > :16:37.commented on the name of the Arctic survey ship. Lots of tweets

:16:38. > :16:42.congratulating Angus Robertson for asking questions about Tory election

:16:43. > :16:46.fraud. Well, it was an obscure issue to go

:16:47. > :16:50.on, but it is not often that I can see I am a net receiver of

:16:51. > :16:54.information on this issue, thanks to Mr Corbyn, because I now know more

:16:55. > :16:58.about posted workers directive is than I did before. That is helpful

:16:59. > :17:04.to me. In what way is it helpful to the Leader of the Opposition?

:17:05. > :17:08.Perhaps because this issue has been important to some of the unions,

:17:09. > :17:12.particularly the GMB, who had been a big whack of Jeremy Corbyn. If we

:17:13. > :17:16.think of the role that unions have played in his leadership, they have

:17:17. > :17:20.been campaigning for some time on this issue. The European countries

:17:21. > :17:26.are in the process of making a decision about moving forward on it,

:17:27. > :17:30.so it is a live issue or parts of the Labour Party and the unions.

:17:31. > :17:35.Some people might remember one of the controversies in this area in

:17:36. > :17:39.2009 was a big strike at an oil refinery where workers were brought

:17:40. > :17:43.in directly from Italy, and they were being paid less than the people

:17:44. > :17:48.who had been working there who were British. So, it is a niche issue,

:17:49. > :17:53.but important to some strands of the Labour Party and I think that is why

:17:54. > :17:57.he raised it. It is not really to do with free movement, it can only

:17:58. > :18:00.happen because of free movement. It doesn't cover the vast majority of

:18:01. > :18:05.workers crossing European boundaries in search of work. You have to be

:18:06. > :18:08.posted by your employer to a facility that that employer needs to

:18:09. > :18:14.provide labour to in another country. And you can see why the

:18:15. > :18:20.unions want to make sure that there is not what is referred to as social

:18:21. > :18:26.dumping, not a nice phrase, but you dump cheap labour into that area and

:18:27. > :18:32.undercut. I have no idea, in Britain, how widespread this is. I

:18:33. > :18:38.have to say, I am not sure either. We do know it is a matter of concern

:18:39. > :18:41.to parts of the union movement, and it is the kind of thing that Jeremy

:18:42. > :18:45.Corbyn cares about in the context of the EU referendum campaign. When we

:18:46. > :18:50.have heard him talking about standing up for a more social Europe

:18:51. > :18:54.that protects workers' rights and the strength we can get from being

:18:55. > :18:58.inside the EU, the kind of campaign he will run in the next six weeks or

:18:59. > :19:02.so, these are the kinds of issues that he may well be promoting in the

:19:03. > :19:15.campaign. The problem might be, how does that translate to most ordinary

:19:16. > :19:17.voters? I suspect that probably a good number of people were not

:19:18. > :19:22.familiar with what he was talking about. And he has 11 parliaments

:19:23. > :19:26.against it. If Kate Hoey were here, I'm sure she would say, if we left

:19:27. > :19:31.the EU, we could stop them coming in. Job done. It was a strange PMQs,

:19:32. > :19:37.not least because you had the Lib leader calling for an apology for

:19:38. > :19:42.the new Labour Mayor of London. You had the Conservative leader

:19:43. > :19:45.congratulating the new Labour leader of London, and the Labour leader

:19:46. > :19:51.saying happy birthday to David Attenborough. It was quite a strange

:19:52. > :19:56.session or run. We need a diagram. Hillary Benn, why did Jeremy Corbyn,

:19:57. > :19:58.instead of congratulating David Attenborough on his birthday, not

:19:59. > :20:03.congratulate Sadiq Attenborough on his birthday, not

:20:04. > :20:13.more votes personally than any Labour politician in history and now

:20:14. > :20:17.being the single biggest elected leader in Europe. Why did he not

:20:18. > :20:22.congratulate him leader in Europe. Why did he not

:20:23. > :20:29.like to apologise for what was said leader in Europe. Why did he not

:20:30. > :20:32.campaign? Mr Corbyn has already congratulated city can on his

:20:33. > :20:37.fantastic victory. I think the Prime Minister should have given Sadiq

:20:38. > :20:46.Khan an apology. to by the Leader of the Opposition.

:20:47. > :20:49.There are conservatives who have finally admitted to

:20:50. > :20:52.There are conservatives who have reservations they have. They have

:20:53. > :21:01.done themselves a huge amount of damage. That may well be true, but

:21:02. > :21:07.you are just widening the open goal for Mr Corbyn to kick

:21:08. > :21:15.you are just widening the open goal through. He should do so. Tim Farron

:21:16. > :21:22.didn't win London, your party did. People know that this was a grave

:21:23. > :21:26.error that has done the Conservative Party enormous damage with the

:21:27. > :21:32.ethnic minority community in London. They are going to rue the campaign

:21:33. > :21:35.they ran. That is not the question. I know you are good at

:21:36. > :21:41.filibustering, because I can see you are embarrassed. Why did your leader

:21:42. > :21:47.not stick it to the Prime Minister on this? Because he did so last

:21:48. > :21:57.week, Andrew. At PMQs? But he hadn't won. He did, he raised the issue and

:21:58. > :22:06.give him a hard time. John Hayes, I have a tough question for you. Is

:22:07. > :22:12.Government policy for or against the posted workers directive? I am a

:22:13. > :22:18.receiver of information and the net beneficiary from Mr Cobb and, as

:22:19. > :22:21.argued. So you don't know? The prime ministers said we understand the

:22:22. > :22:25.argument and approve of what the unions are saying, but I have come

:22:26. > :22:31.to this as fresh as you have. I quite often criticise politicians

:22:32. > :22:36.for not knowing the answer. In this case, I wouldn't dare. It would seem

:22:37. > :22:40.quite sensible that you can stop companies, say, based in Eastern

:22:41. > :22:45.Europe from sending over a tonne of workers to a facility in the UK,

:22:46. > :22:47.which is that that we would care about, and paying them half of what

:22:48. > :22:54.the British workers are getting there. That would seem only fair

:22:55. > :23:00.that if you're going to do that, they have to meet British standards.

:23:01. > :23:12.It is different from a sole plumber coming from Poland to work as a sole

:23:13. > :23:15.trader. It would seem fair that you would make sure that any employer in

:23:16. > :23:19.Poland or Latvia who does this would meet the standards here in the UK.

:23:20. > :23:26.Yes, that would seem fair. Let me say this - my dad was a shop

:23:27. > :23:34.steward, I am a member of the trade union. We make sure that we stand up

:23:35. > :23:39.for workers rights, it is a core part of my politics. A really good

:23:40. > :23:48.argument for staying in the European Union. They haven't got the director

:23:49. > :23:56.through. The directive is already in place. But it has been yellow

:23:57. > :23:59.carded. It was agreed by the legislative process of the European

:24:00. > :24:03.Union. There have been a number of court judgments, and this proposal

:24:04. > :24:06.has been made. The right to paid holidays comes because of the

:24:07. > :24:15.working Time directive. We're running of time. You can blame the

:24:16. > :24:19.speaker when you get back. I would not trust the Government with

:24:20. > :24:30.workers' rights in Britain if we vote to leave. When I say we have

:24:31. > :24:34.run out of time, we have. I want just to leave the next 15 minutes to

:24:35. > :24:39.Laura, who is going to go through the details of the posted workers

:24:40. > :24:43.directive. I think we can all consider ourselves net receivers of

:24:44. > :24:47.information after today. I can't resist saying, or was the person who

:24:48. > :24:51.said over the weekend who said that Labour had to stop missing own

:24:52. > :24:57.goals? Sadiq Khan. I didn't realise I was echoing him! Laura, good to

:24:58. > :25:02.see you. I will send you the link to the workers directive.

:25:03. > :25:06.It was a heated debate, so don't do it down.

:25:07. > :25:08.Now, it's the film the world has been waiting for.

:25:09. > :25:10.Forget the new X-Men, forget Captain America,

:25:11. > :25:13.today London's Leceister Square will play host to the world premiere

:25:14. > :25:25.In this film, I want to spell out our choice, do we want to live under

:25:26. > :25:28.a Europe-wide Government, a vast state machine which few of us

:25:29. > :25:32.understand and by people we don't know with the powers to impose laws

:25:33. > :25:36.we have debated and have little or no power to overturn? You cannot be

:25:37. > :25:41.a self-governing democratic nation and a member of the EU. That is

:25:42. > :25:45.impossible. We now seem to talk about going on holiday with a single

:25:46. > :25:49.currency as if that were the highest aspiration of mankind, but surely

:25:50. > :25:58.one of the Isner aspirations is to have the dignity of self-government.

:25:59. > :26:03.-- one of the highest aspirations. And the man behind the moving,

:26:04. > :26:09.director Martin Durkin, joins us now. Hello. Hello. The Premier is in

:26:10. > :26:14.Leicester Square. Celebrities will be attending, and you've got some

:26:15. > :26:19.massive names - Nigel for a rash, David Davies, Kate Hoey, a North Sea

:26:20. > :26:26.fishermen. You haven't invited Andrew. I

:26:27. > :26:35.thought he was coming. Will it be packed tonight? We have sold out,

:26:36. > :26:39.I'm told. I must say, I'm staggered. Nevertheless... What will it tell us

:26:40. > :26:48.that we don't know already? You asked me that last time. I'm so

:26:49. > :26:52.repetitive. It is all about how highly we value our freedom, and I

:26:53. > :26:56.think that people don't fully appreciate what the implications are

:26:57. > :27:00.of handing over the rights to determine our own laws and shape our

:27:01. > :27:06.own future. Last night I was thinking, why have I made this film?

:27:07. > :27:11.It was a pain to make it. It is the BBC. It was the BB 's -- if the BBC

:27:12. > :27:18.One the propaganda arm of the EU, I would not have had to go to the

:27:19. > :27:27.bother. Thanks for joining the Daily Politics! What bit of our

:27:28. > :27:34.coverage... Hold on, what bit of our coverage has been propaganda? You

:27:35. > :27:40.are worried about losing your charter, so you have scalawags on.

:27:41. > :27:45.You portray Eurosceptics as narrow-minded and cranks. In the

:27:46. > :27:52.film, you realise what it is about, and it is class struggle. It is

:27:53. > :27:56.ordinary taxpayers having a go at the tax concealing, publicly funded

:27:57. > :27:59.establishment. I don't associate Nigel Lawson, because I did look at

:28:00. > :28:08.the trailer, with the class struggle. It seems like a conspiracy

:28:09. > :28:15.movie from the 1970s - the EU is the source of all our ills, and that

:28:16. > :28:20.isn't the case. No, no. The BBC is. It is the political pass, of which

:28:21. > :28:30.you are apart, that once to... It would be like going to remedial

:28:31. > :28:39.camp. Good luck with the movie. Press that button, Hilary Benn, to

:28:40. > :28:51.find out which year it was. It was 1962, who has won?

:28:52. > :28:55.The one o'clock news is starting, part of our propaganda arm, is

:28:56. > :28:58.starting on the BC one. Joe and I will be back with more political

:28:59. > :29:14.propaganda tomorrow. And again on Friday and Sunday.

:29:15. > :29:18.Drinking small amounts of alcohol isn't without risk.