:00:39. > :00:43.David Cameron and Nigel Farage were both put on the spot last
:00:44. > :00:47.night before an audience of voters on ITV.
:00:48. > :00:50.The Ukip leader and Prime Minister both faced - separately -
:00:51. > :00:56.hostile questions from a studio audience about the EU referendum.
:00:57. > :00:58.Will the Government extend the deadline to register to vote
:00:59. > :01:04.Technical glitches hit the official website just hours before
:01:05. > :01:06.the midnight deadline, leaving wannabe voters
:01:07. > :01:14.It's Prime Minister's Questions today - will the EU referendum
:01:15. > :01:24.dominate or will Jeremy Corbyn choose to ask David Cameron
:01:25. > :01:25.And how does the BBC achieve impartiality
:01:26. > :01:27.and balance in its coverage of the EU referendum?
:01:28. > :01:32.What's the main thing I've got to think about?
:01:33. > :01:35.The key thing in guidelines for a referendum is that we must
:01:36. > :01:51.All that in the next hour and a half and with us for the duration
:01:52. > :01:53.Labour's Alan Johnson and Security Minister John Hayes.
:01:54. > :01:56.Now one of our guests declared this week how proud he is to be
:01:57. > :02:00.I know what you're thinking, that's not news, we already know
:02:01. > :02:03.But no, it was Conservative Security Minister John Hayes.
:02:04. > :02:07.It's something you both have in common.
:02:08. > :02:10.Let's find out what else you have in common in the next
:02:11. > :02:26.Now, last night Nigel Farage and David Cameron faced hostile
:02:27. > :02:29.questions from some audience members in a live show on the UK's
:02:30. > :02:31.membership of the European Union, on everything from immigration
:02:32. > :02:36.The Ukip leader was the first to take to the stage.
:02:37. > :02:41.This is, should be a British passport,
:02:42. > :02:45.it says European union on it, all right?
:02:46. > :02:49.I think, to make this country safer, we need to get
:02:50. > :02:52.back British passports - so we can check anybody else
:02:53. > :02:57.Are you not embarrassed that Justin Welby today said you're
:02:58. > :03:01.Well, I'm sorry, and I'm not going to stand here and attack
:03:02. > :03:04.the Archbishop of Canterbury, but I think he would have
:03:05. > :03:07.done better to have read actually what I said,
:03:08. > :03:11.I voted for you in the last election, because one
:03:12. > :03:14.of the things on your manifesto was to get immigration down.
:03:15. > :03:17.You haven't been able to do that, because you're not allowed
:03:18. > :03:23.I can see my standard of living and my family's standard of living
:03:24. > :03:27.going down because of this influx that we can't control.
:03:28. > :03:30.Now I'm sorry to say, but your closing statement last week
:03:31. > :03:35.was that if we leave the EU we are rolling a dice
:03:36. > :03:42.By you telling us to stay in, you've rolled that dice already.
:03:43. > :03:50.I worry if we leave, that we're going to see our economy
:03:51. > :03:54.suffer, because we're going to lose access to the absolutely vital
:03:55. > :04:00.I would say the right thing to do, the British thing to do,
:04:01. > :04:04.is to fight for a Great Britain inside the European Union,
:04:05. > :04:15.and don't take the Nigel Farage 'Little England' option.
:04:16. > :04:20.Were you happy with how Nigel Farage presented your side of the argument
:04:21. > :04:25.last night? I present the argument in my way and he does in his. I'm
:04:26. > :04:29.not going to comment on him because he's a different political party
:04:30. > :04:34.from mine. I just wondered how you thought he had done. We welcome
:04:35. > :04:41.anybody who will bike for Brexit, but actually, the argument that is
:04:42. > :04:44.being made across the spectrum on Brexit is about political power,
:04:45. > :04:50.where Reddit exercised and how it held to account. I would world in
:04:51. > :04:54.which people who hold the people who take decisions affecting them to
:04:55. > :05:00.account in their interests. I'm comfortable when he says things like
:05:01. > :05:05.if we stay in the EU, the risk more migrants coming here and therefore a
:05:06. > :05:10.danger that British women will face alone style sex attacks? Are you
:05:11. > :05:18.comfortable with that? I am sure that part of the EU is that free
:05:19. > :05:21.movement poses all kinds of problems, but I'm not going to go
:05:22. > :05:28.into that kind of talk because it's not my style. So you're not
:05:29. > :05:34.comfortable with it? I'm not in the business of defending Mr garaged on
:05:35. > :05:37.those specifics. Alan Johnson, the Prime Minister could not give a nod
:05:38. > :05:44.to the gentleman who wanted to know why a highly skilled non-EU migrant
:05:45. > :05:49.has trouble hitting here whereas a skilled EU migrant can just walk in?
:05:50. > :05:54.I don't think he tempted to answer the question. He is in charge of a
:05:55. > :05:59.highly skilled migrant and so is John, working together, because they
:06:00. > :06:03.said the system for outside the EU so if we wanted more skilled people
:06:04. > :06:12.from outside the EU, we can control that. Because that's the deal we
:06:13. > :06:16.send up to. If you take your route, given who is coming in from the EU,
:06:17. > :06:20.that could be the price of the single market, useful to be honest
:06:21. > :06:27.about that and not try to obfuscate, if you want more non-EU, then
:06:28. > :06:31.overall net migration is going to rise. He is failing at the Betty
:06:32. > :06:34.controls, that's the problem for him. Last night, thought the
:06:35. > :06:38.audience were brilliant, thought their questioning was really good.
:06:39. > :06:43.The problem for David Cameron that Nigel Farage doesn't have is he is a
:06:44. > :06:47.government minister coming is the Prime Minister responsible for all
:06:48. > :06:52.this, so they can't just... Let me come back to my question, which is
:06:53. > :06:58.if we wanted to let in more highly skilled people from outside the
:06:59. > :07:05.Yukon but we stay in the EE, overall by definition, net migration is
:07:06. > :07:10.going to go up. -- stay in the EU. If we take in more of the skills we
:07:11. > :07:14.need from the non-thing-macro. The point is this, and this is where the
:07:15. > :07:19.Cameron is right, this is a difficult problem to grapple with,
:07:20. > :07:24.that balance. An Australian -based system, as Andrew Green has pointed
:07:25. > :07:30.out, just adds to the huge complicity of a bureaucracy of
:07:31. > :07:38.urology in. It is relevant... Not to my question. If you think the answer
:07:39. > :07:41.is to leave the EU and thanking the economy, you will create a bigger
:07:42. > :07:48.problem for your economy and employers in this country. The Messi
:07:49. > :07:53.said last night that if you are an EU job-seeker, you don't have a job
:07:54. > :07:58.but you come to look for a job, which many do, 77,000 did last year,
:07:59. > :08:03.you have to leave up to six months if you haven't found work. That's
:08:04. > :08:08.not true, is it? It is a strict application of habitual residency.
:08:09. > :08:12.It is something that would take quite a bureaucracy to actually
:08:13. > :08:18.police. Habitual residency is not the law here, nor is European law,
:08:19. > :08:23.and since 1991, there is no compulsion to leave after six
:08:24. > :08:27.months. My understanding is that the deal came back with on these
:08:28. > :08:32.negotiations... It wasn't part of the negotiation but it pointed out
:08:33. > :08:36.and put in his statement to Parliament, that that six-month rule
:08:37. > :08:40.should apply. The ruling says it's reasonable to ask people to leave
:08:41. > :08:44.after six months but there is no enforcement mechanism, how would you
:08:45. > :08:48.identify EU job seekers who have been here for six months, at haven't
:08:49. > :08:53.found work, how would you identify them to get them to go back? That's
:08:54. > :08:58.the difficulty, but I don't think it's impossible. Not if still within
:08:59. > :09:02.the European Union, and if this issue was something you could
:09:03. > :09:05.discuss among other European Union countries, because it's reciprocal
:09:06. > :09:11.for our people who go to look for work abroad that you could resolve
:09:12. > :09:16.that. This law has been in place since 2014, are you aware of any EU
:09:17. > :09:22.job-seeker sent back under it? I'm not aware of any. So it's not part
:09:23. > :09:32.of the deal, at the moment, it's also on the EU no, you're not
:09:33. > :09:39.allowed to systematically verify who is an EU job-seeker and who isn't.
:09:40. > :09:42.It's not true, is it? When we were in office, we had a register of
:09:43. > :09:46.workers who were from Eastern Europe and we found 40% of the names on
:09:47. > :09:55.them had been here already, they had come over as illegal migrants. It's
:09:56. > :10:01.another aspect of this that we can tackle if we are in the European
:10:02. > :10:04.Union. Do you accept there is no compulsion for EU job-seeker who has
:10:05. > :10:08.been here six months and hasn't got work, to go back home? I don't think
:10:09. > :10:19.that's benevolent, no. I'm not saying it can't be... That's
:10:20. > :10:26.implemented no. The fact is in your position, we have to choose tween
:10:27. > :10:30.the single market and controls on EU immigration. Do you accept that the
:10:31. > :10:35.trade-off and you would rather have control and immigration than access
:10:36. > :10:42.to the single market? You claim that, but that would depend on the
:10:43. > :10:45.negotiation. If we left the European Union, we would need to engage with
:10:46. > :10:50.the European Union countries about the kind of deal we put together.
:10:51. > :10:54.There is no country that has access to the single market, full access,
:10:55. > :11:03.doesn't also have free movement with the EU? That is the ultimate that
:11:04. > :11:09.has been made by Remain. But there was no country of our size and
:11:10. > :11:17.scale, who wants to trade as much as ours, that has been that position.
:11:18. > :11:19.The Government is looking into whether it's possible to extend
:11:20. > :11:21.the deadline to register to vote in the EU referendum,
:11:22. > :11:24.after a last minute rush in the hours before the midnight
:11:25. > :11:27.deadline prompted the website to crash.
:11:28. > :11:31.Labour, the Lib Dems, the SNP and the Electoral Commission
:11:32. > :11:37.The Liberal Democrat leader Tim Farron joins us now
:11:38. > :11:49.Welcome to the programme. Do you know how many people have been
:11:50. > :11:56.affected by this technical glitch if I can call it that? Technical glitch
:11:57. > :11:59.is what it is. Many, many thousands. We know that part of million people
:12:00. > :12:03.attempted to register or successfully did yesterday, a
:12:04. > :12:08.staggering number, about 300,000 of them were under the age of 35, which
:12:09. > :12:13.gives you some picture of the breakdown of the demographics of all
:12:14. > :12:15.of this, but we certainly think tens of thousands. Predominantly young
:12:16. > :12:21.people but at the moment that is anecdotal. We shouldn't be judging
:12:22. > :12:27.people on the basis of the point at which they chose to register.
:12:28. > :12:30.Whether it is in January or somewhere in the middle. The point
:12:31. > :12:35.is, the system broke down and that should not be a good enough excuse
:12:36. > :12:40.to exclude these thousands of people from the franchise. Except that they
:12:41. > :12:45.have had months to register in this referendum, it has not exactly been
:12:46. > :12:52.a secret, has it? But they are not second class voters. Why didn't they
:12:53. > :12:54.do it in good time? We shouldn't consider them to be second class
:12:55. > :12:58.voters because they chose to register to vote on the last day,
:12:59. > :13:03.it's just as legitimate and should be just as possible to register to
:13:04. > :13:09.vote at ten or 11:59pm on the last day as it was to register back in
:13:10. > :13:12.January, for example. What we can't have is those people who registered
:13:13. > :13:17.within time being excluded because of the banality of a technical
:13:18. > :13:20.glitch, I don't want to go around pointing the finger at government or
:13:21. > :13:26.anybody else for this failure, I think it's entirely possible for us
:13:27. > :13:29.to amend the law in an emergency statutory instrument or order in
:13:30. > :13:37.Council, the government could do that today. Give people another 24
:13:38. > :13:40.hours. 24 hours. Is this a sign of desperation on your side of the
:13:41. > :13:44.argument, you know that young people are more likely to bow to stay in,
:13:45. > :13:48.you have discovered it may be young people most affected by not
:13:49. > :13:52.registering on time, so you're desperate to get them on the
:13:53. > :13:57.register? Certainly come I want to win the referendum. I don't want to
:13:58. > :14:01.be in a situation that they often wear either side has won marginally,
:14:02. > :14:05.and a greater number of people were excluded because of this glitch.
:14:06. > :14:08.It's certainly something which is impressive and interesting that such
:14:09. > :14:12.a large majority of those who did register on the last day where young
:14:13. > :14:16.people, and we should all be taking note of the fact that the
:14:17. > :14:19.overwhelming majority of young people want to remain in the
:14:20. > :14:23.European Union, those of us who are a bit funny to think it's not about
:14:24. > :14:27.our sure futures, we are voting for, but then longer ones. -- a bit
:14:28. > :14:33.older. That sounds reasonable enough. It is of course right that
:14:34. > :14:40.the cyclical aspects of this have gone awry, and it's being looked at,
:14:41. > :14:45.but Tim knows this very well, we have all been involved in electoral
:14:46. > :14:48.processes for a lump sum, there are deadlines for postal votes, proxy
:14:49. > :14:54.votes, registration, that's what it is like to run an election. You have
:14:55. > :15:00.got to have a deadline sometime. But if it's a technical glitch, you can
:15:01. > :15:06.have people who have just left it too late and that was silly, you may
:15:07. > :15:10.pay the price, but if they left it a bit late but then couldn't at the
:15:11. > :15:11.last minute get on because of a technical glitch, that would be a
:15:12. > :15:22.reason for extending it. There is an urgent question at 12.30
:15:23. > :15:28.on this. Mr Cameron will want this, won't he? We all want it and I hope
:15:29. > :15:34.John wants, this to reflect the view of the British public of all ages,
:15:35. > :15:39.and we are all making a big effort to point out it was June seven. In a
:15:40. > :15:43.sense we were urging them, if you haven't registered now, get
:15:44. > :15:48.registered. They tried to and there was a glitch, now we need to put
:15:49. > :15:53.that back by 24-hour. It is a bit different to general election, if
:15:54. > :15:59.you don't vote in this one you can wait for the next one, this is once
:16:00. > :16:03.for all decision. You pass a law about a Bill and set deadlines, if
:16:04. > :16:08.there is a technical problem we have to look at its. We are agreed on
:16:09. > :16:13.this, so let's leave it. Tim Farron, we have to move on, but thank you.
:16:14. > :16:15.We will see one happens in the urgent question in PMQs.
:16:16. > :16:17.Anyone who follows politics knows no party's more prone to bouts
:16:18. > :16:24.Unless, of course, it's the Conservative Party.
:16:25. > :16:28.And now, with just 16 days to go to the EU referendum on 23rd June,
:16:29. > :16:30.the Tories are most definitely in the mood.
:16:31. > :16:35.It seems a long time ago that Conservatives were optimistically
:16:36. > :16:37.planning an "orderly, well-mannered debate" which avoided
:16:38. > :16:47.In March, Iain Duncan Smith delivered a powerful upper-cut,
:16:48. > :16:51.quitting the Cabinet over welfare cuts but also going rouge over
:16:52. > :16:59.the EU, saying David Cameron was presiding over "Project Fear".
:17:00. > :17:01.On Sunday, John Major tried to deliver a knock-out blow
:17:02. > :17:04.for Remain, claiming that trusting Michael Gove, Boris Johnson and IDS
:17:05. > :17:11.on the NHS was like "leaving a pet hamster with a hungry python".
:17:12. > :17:14.But Jacob Rees-Mogg counter-punched for the Leave campaign,
:17:15. > :17:16.claiming Sir John's remarks were the "bitter ramblings
:17:17. > :17:23.But it's not just the Conservatives rolling with the punches.
:17:24. > :17:26.In the red-on-red corner, Labour MP Graham Stringer
:17:27. > :17:28.sucker-punched Jeremy Corbyn, saying his pro-EU stance
:17:29. > :17:33.was "not his natural or historic position".
:17:34. > :17:37.And the Labour leader was hit below the belt by the party's Europhiles,
:17:38. > :17:41.with Simply Red singer Mick Hucknall calling for him
:17:42. > :17:43.to stop being a "shabby, spineless coward" and commit
:17:44. > :17:50.Only another 15 days of this before we're saved by the bell and can
:17:51. > :18:01.Now, John Hayes, what happened to this well mannered, orderly debate
:18:02. > :18:06.David Cameron said was going to take place? Let me to you very plainly. I
:18:07. > :18:12.have a lot of friends on both sides of this debate. Still? Yes, no
:18:13. > :18:17.disagreement with any of them, this is about much more than that, this
:18:18. > :18:22.is not about settling old scores. It is about much more than that. The
:18:23. > :18:26.Prime Minister is clear my views on this, and I hope I remain a friend
:18:27. > :18:29.and admirer of gum and the Chancellor, who I was with last
:18:30. > :18:37.night, know are principled opponents on this issue. And they do so at a
:18:38. > :18:43.higher level than that tittle tattle. You agree it is tittle
:18:44. > :18:47.tattle? There is a Tory civil war breaking out every weekend in the
:18:48. > :18:51.television studios. We have a responsibility to elevate above
:18:52. > :18:57.that. There are two weeks to go and hasn't been elevated... Let's try
:18:58. > :19:06.and do that today, elevate it, Alan and I will do that. We'll have to
:19:07. > :19:10.elevate it. It is not just blue on blue, the whole debate needs to be
:19:11. > :19:14.conducted in a way that is serious and mindful of its significant. You
:19:15. > :19:18.may want to point and look at Labour. But blue on blue, that is
:19:19. > :19:23.where most of the animosity has been directed. John Major took aim at
:19:24. > :19:28.your side saying the campaign was squalid and deceitful, brandishing
:19:29. > :19:32.Boris Johnson court jester. The Prime Minister has been branded by
:19:33. > :19:36.your side as unworthy and dishonest. Is that the level of debate... The
:19:37. > :19:41.Prime Minister stands head and shoulders above the other
:19:42. > :19:45.politicians, that is why he is Prime Minister and whatever the result, he
:19:46. > :19:51.should stay Prime Minister. What you make of like Madinda
:19:52. > :19:59.-- MPs who have written a letter saying he should resign if he loses?
:20:00. > :20:03.I told you what I think about it. We have a programme of government that
:20:04. > :20:09.will continue after the 23rd of June. We have to settle this matter.
:20:10. > :20:14.I hope we leave the European Union. And thereafter David Cameron leads
:20:15. > :20:21.Britain. What should people do when they say David Cameron has lied
:20:22. > :20:27.profoundly to the British public and is toast after the referendum? All
:20:28. > :20:30.party leaders at all times have their critics. There is not a single
:20:31. > :20:38.political party of any political party that has always enjoyed
:20:39. > :20:45.universal support. But that is not what this debate is about. Do you
:20:46. > :20:49.think calling a referendum on the issue has become a proxy for those
:20:50. > :20:55.critics to talk about leadership? I think there was an inevitability
:20:56. > :20:59.about a disagreement, but it is up to individual is how to conduct
:21:00. > :21:05.that. I went to see David Cameron, I work with him very closely, he
:21:06. > :21:09.wasn't surprised by my views in Europe. Since that time I have had
:21:10. > :21:15.no row with him or any of my other colleagues. Have you been surprised
:21:16. > :21:22.by the level of vitriol? Yeah... I'm surprised, certainly displeased. And
:21:23. > :21:27.you're right, it is very easy to this for all kinds of other reasons.
:21:28. > :21:32.I'm now, from this moment, making a call to all on both sides to elevate
:21:33. > :21:36.the debate. You are not the first and probably won't be the last to do
:21:37. > :21:41.that and it has fallen on deaf ears. How on earth do you stitch this back
:21:42. > :21:46.together again? Whatever you say, the majority of politicians that
:21:47. > :21:50.have come here have criticised, in pretty unpleasant terms, the other
:21:51. > :21:54.side. How do you put a party together again after that? In
:21:55. > :21:59.political parties, in our British system of government, there are
:22:00. > :22:04.premiere or disagreements and there are temporary disagreements. That
:22:05. > :22:08.doesn't mean parties can't hang together. We were elected a year ago
:22:09. > :22:14.under David Cameron's leadership by the British people to govern this
:22:15. > :22:22.country. That's what he needs to: doing, I hope outside of the EU.
:22:23. > :22:26.Jeremy Corbyn is not a historic supporter or fan of the EU. Neither
:22:27. > :22:30.is Hilary Benn or David Blunkett, if you look at the way people voted in
:22:31. > :22:36.1975. I'm talking about more recently. Graham is one of a handful
:22:37. > :22:39.of Labour MPs. If you look at where the Labour Party was last time we
:22:40. > :22:43.had a referendum, they were split top to bottom, like Tories today.
:22:44. > :22:47.Harold Wilson went after to try and get a deal and all of that. I take
:22:48. > :22:53.the criticism we are disunited on many things but on this we are very
:22:54. > :22:57.united, not just in the Labour Party and Parliamentary Labour Party but
:22:58. > :23:02.in the trade unions, every major union has come out... I'm not
:23:03. > :23:07.talking about disunity so much as lack of enthusiasm. If it comes down
:23:08. > :23:13.to Labour Party members and MPs unable to get their turnout on the
:23:14. > :23:19.day, that could really adversely affect... Yes, that is why we are
:23:20. > :23:22.crucial to this. Mick Hucknall is a lifelong supporter. And saying
:23:23. > :23:28.people like Jeremy Corbyn have not been out there, he has been
:23:29. > :23:33.spineless, to quote him, not an enthusiastic cheerleader for Remain.
:23:34. > :23:36.I think Mick has other issues with Jeremy Corbyn and this is just stick
:23:37. > :23:42.to beat him with. You say he has been out there? Yes. The issue
:23:43. > :23:47.Jeremy Corbyn is he has done all these town hall meetings across the
:23:48. > :23:52.country, under the national media radar. The way to do these things is
:23:53. > :23:56.to do today programme in the morning, do a big speech, dominate
:23:57. > :24:01.the news all day. Jeremy has done that one we've asked him to do it,
:24:02. > :24:04.aside from that he has doubled these meetings in Liverpool, Glasgow,
:24:05. > :24:08.Suffolk. He does these meetings all the time. We want him to do some
:24:09. > :24:12.more of those high-profile meetings and someone who has been converted,
:24:13. > :24:20.was in the other camp but now sees the benefits of the EU, and would-be
:24:21. > :24:27.Prime Minister... If John had come Prime Minister I would back him.
:24:28. > :24:30.This is where you heard it first. No Prime Minister in their right mind
:24:31. > :24:33.would suggest taking this country out of the European Union would be
:24:34. > :24:38.the right thing to do for the people. What has it been like on the
:24:39. > :24:42.doorstep? I have spoken to a number of Labour MPs who have been shocked
:24:43. > :24:46.by the level of malaise from Labour voters who are not interested in
:24:47. > :24:52.voting... And also they are not going to bother to turn out or vote
:24:53. > :24:56.for Remain. There is that. It hasn't surprised me, because in a sense we
:24:57. > :25:00.have not taken on this issue, the Labour Party. We have been quiet
:25:01. > :25:04.about Europe for a long time. Every time the elections for the European
:25:05. > :25:07.Parliament... We have to go and deliver leaflets... We have not made
:25:08. > :25:11.the arguments for Europe ever since the time of the single currency and
:25:12. > :25:16.we should have been, and now we are doing that job and I believe that
:25:17. > :25:21.the end of the day Labour will be fundamentally a decision to Remain.
:25:22. > :25:26.Could you put a word it with Jeremy Corbyn to do a one-on-one interview?
:25:27. > :25:31.Andrew, nobody would do one-on-one interviews with use! How long has he
:25:32. > :25:36.been Chancellor and Shadow Chancellor? Give Jeremy the same
:25:37. > :25:40.level of years. I have to wait six years! I don't know if I will be
:25:41. > :25:51.here. We have had a statement from the leaves campaign. On exchanging
:25:52. > :25:55.extending the registration period. They say it is doing little to stop
:25:56. > :25:58.EU nationals from voting on the referendum which needs to be
:25:59. > :26:05.urgently investigated. Hillary Clinton has won the Californian
:26:06. > :26:12.primary with 94% of the vote. That is quite a big margin, bigger than
:26:13. > :26:17.many of the poll suggested. The 475 delegates in California are split
:26:18. > :26:21.proportionally. A big win in the biggest state for Hillary Clinton.
:26:22. > :26:22.Mr Bernie Sanders says he will fight on.
:26:23. > :26:25.Now, it's time for the competition that will have the British public
:26:26. > :26:27.leaving their desks in droves to crowd around TV screens
:26:28. > :26:29.at lunchtime with high hopes of excitement and glory.
:26:30. > :26:32.No, not the football competition that is starting this weekend.
:26:33. > :26:34.I am, of course, talking about your chance to win
:26:35. > :26:38.one of our exclusive Daily Politics mugs.
:26:39. > :26:41.And all you have to do to add one of these to your trophy cabinet
:26:42. > :26:59.# I want to break free from your lies
:27:00. > :27:07.# You're so self-satisfied I don't need you #.
:27:08. > :27:12.# One thing is certain we'll never give in
:27:13. > :27:31.# But when I try to speak he says that I don't care
:27:32. > :27:35.# He says I'm aware, and now he says I'm weak #.
:27:36. > :27:36.No way... Listen...
:27:37. > :27:41.# Don't leave me hanging on like a yo-yo #.
:27:42. > :27:43.You've arrested me for no reason whatsoever.
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:27:49. > :28:15.Lots of discussion in the studio about the date there.
:28:16. > :28:18.To be in with a chance of winning a Daily Politics mug,
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:28:28. > :28:35.I have learned it for this week! You have.
:28:36. > :28:40.It's coming up to midday here - just take a look at Big Ben -
:28:41. > :28:46.The penultimate PMQs before the referendum.
:28:47. > :28:48.Prime Minister's Questions is on its way.
:28:49. > :28:52.And that's not all - Laura Kuenssberg is here.
:28:53. > :28:59.Have you had the questions leaked to you? LAUGHTER
:29:00. > :29:03.I think there are two things we can fairly confidently predict without
:29:04. > :29:06.any leaks that will come up today. I expect the Prime Minister might try
:29:07. > :29:11.to mention what has been going on with sterling in advance of the
:29:12. > :29:15.referendum, which helps them about their warnings on the economy.
:29:16. > :29:18.Whether that is down to the referendum is an entirely different
:29:19. > :29:22.discussion, but I think he might crow bar that in there somewhere. I
:29:23. > :29:26.think it would be very surprising if Jeremy Corbyn doesn't raise this
:29:27. > :29:32.complete Horlicks with the voting registration website. A theme of
:29:33. > :29:36.his. Yes, I think it was his first campaign as party leader he began a
:29:37. > :29:42.campaign to get particularly young people to register. And given what
:29:43. > :29:45.has happened in the last 24 hours, in a country like ours when all the
:29:46. > :29:49.politicians have been urging people to vote, saying this is the biggest
:29:50. > :29:54.decision in decades in Britain today, it feels pretty extraordinary
:29:55. > :29:59.we cannot get a website work. As completely predictably happened at
:30:00. > :30:04.the general election when there was a surge of people trying to sign up.
:30:05. > :30:07.I remember the Obama administration when it began its health-care
:30:08. > :30:12.reform, you had to go to the website to sign on and it crashed within
:30:13. > :30:17.about an hour. Governments and websites don't go well together as.
:30:18. > :30:23.They don't mix well at all. It will never catch on. This is not just a
:30:24. > :30:27.story about Horlicks in government IT contracts, it's important not
:30:28. > :30:31.just because of people's right to vote, but also important politically
:30:32. > :30:35.here already this morning you have Vote Leave saying this is a mess,
:30:36. > :30:38.but we're worried about the Electoral Commission not doing
:30:39. > :30:41.enough to check EU citizens haven't somehow managed to register when
:30:42. > :30:47.they are not entitled to do so in this poll. But also... I'm going to
:30:48. > :31:06.wait for that, because it is time to Prime Minister's Questions.
:31:07. > :31:10.Yesterday we commemorated women's suffrage and the importance of votes
:31:11. > :31:16.for women. And women voting for women. Thousands wanted to vote
:31:17. > :31:21.yesterday but due to massive demand were unable to. We'll be p.m. Update
:31:22. > :31:25.the house on what he is doing to ensure everyone has a chance to
:31:26. > :31:33.register their vote and can do so in this bottle vote for a generation?
:31:34. > :31:38.Festival, let me join my honourable friend in remembering what the
:31:39. > :31:40.suffragettes stood for -- Festival. The fact that we're cheap universal
:31:41. > :31:45.suffrage in this country. On the issue she raises, I'm sure the whole
:31:46. > :31:49.house will want to know the situation, it's extremely welcome
:31:50. > :31:54.that so many people want to take part in this massive democratic
:31:55. > :31:57.exercise, in this vital decision for our country, last night there was
:31:58. > :32:01.record demand on the website from people concerned they might not be
:32:02. > :32:05.registered to vote in the referendum and this caused an overload of the
:32:06. > :32:09.system. I am clear that people should continue to register today.
:32:10. > :32:12.The electoral commission have made a statement, they urge the
:32:13. > :32:25.government... They will effectively extend the deadline. To make sure
:32:26. > :32:34.those who registered today, and who registered last night, will be able
:32:35. > :32:38.to vote in the EU referendum. I think it would be appropriate of the
:32:39. > :32:41.house recognise and remembered the life of Mohammed Khalid today, not
:32:42. > :32:45.only the greatest in his chosen field but someone who's coach and
:32:46. > :32:53.which inspired so many -- Muhammad Ali. I had the honour of meeting his
:32:54. > :33:00.wife in the nuts and 80s. I think we should commend his bravery in facing
:33:01. > :33:03.Parkinson's disease. On campaigning on civil rights, antiracism and
:33:04. > :33:12.peace, we have all lost one of the greatest. Yesterday, I met some
:33:13. > :33:14.workers from sports direct to come to Parliament to give evidence about
:33:15. > :33:18.the shocking behaviour of that company, nonpayment of the minimum
:33:19. > :33:22.wage, a culture of intimidation and fear, on top of the insecurity and
:33:23. > :33:27.exploitation of zero hours contracts. Philip wrote to me this
:33:28. > :33:32.week on this issue and concerned about it, said, the scandalous
:33:33. > :33:37.scourge of zero hours contracts, which is blighting the lives of many
:33:38. > :33:41.already low-paid people. Will the Prime Minister do what some other
:33:42. > :33:47.European countries have done and ban exploitative zero hours contracts
:33:48. > :33:50.here? First let me join the Leader of the Opposition in pain should be
:33:51. > :33:56.the life of Muhammad Lee, he was a hero in the ring, an enormous role
:33:57. > :34:00.model outside the ring, what did it in terms of breaking down barriers
:34:01. > :34:05.and encouraging integration is something should all celebrate. And
:34:06. > :34:08.I'm sure we all try to plug a butterfly and sting like a bee at
:34:09. > :34:13.this dispatch box though it's not always possible in the circumstances
:34:14. > :34:18.we face. On the issue of sports direct and the appalling practice of
:34:19. > :34:21.not paying the minimum wage, I have heard it and this government has
:34:22. > :34:26.done more than any previous government to crack down on the
:34:27. > :34:30.nonpayment. We have levelled almost 5000 penalties since 2010, we
:34:31. > :34:38.continue to name and shame eligible employees when they investigation
:34:39. > :34:42.has been closed -- eligible employers. And it is the nonpayment
:34:43. > :34:47.are at a record high and the total value of penalties last year was 15
:34:48. > :34:51.times bigger than in 2010, so on top of our national living wage, we are
:34:52. > :34:58.going after unscrupulous employers and making sure people get the deal
:34:59. > :35:04.they deserve. On the issue of zero hours contracts, religious leaders
:35:05. > :35:07.in the last Parliament to stop exclusive zero hours Parliament but
:35:08. > :35:13.people at the conclusion of our consultation, which is shouldn't go
:35:14. > :35:20.further than that and for some people, they want to have the of
:35:21. > :35:28.those contracts. The case of sports direct shows that he would Mike
:35:29. > :35:33.Ashley would make Scrooge like a good employer, but we should commend
:35:34. > :35:37.the unions were exposing what went on and shows we must strengthen, not
:35:38. > :35:41.weaken, workers' rights, particularly when there is criminal
:35:42. > :35:45.activity involved. But his government... Employment Minister
:35:46. > :35:51.said that if we leave Europe, we could just half the burdens of the
:35:52. > :35:57.European Union, social and implement legislation. Perhaps the Prime
:35:58. > :36:00.Minister could help us. There she speak on behalf of the government
:36:01. > :36:05.when she promises to reduce the burden is, as she describes them, of
:36:06. > :36:11.employment legislation, or on behalf of whom does she speak? The
:36:12. > :36:16.government is in favour of staying in a reformed European Union because
:36:17. > :36:19.we are stronger, safer and better off. For many people, one of the
:36:20. > :36:23.reasons they will want to stay in the European Union is that they do
:36:24. > :36:27.believe it provides an underpinning in terms of rights for workers and
:36:28. > :36:35.implement rights. I would make the point in addition that we in this
:36:36. > :36:39.house have repeatedly gone over and above those rights, we have the
:36:40. > :36:43.right to request flexible working for all workers since 2014, we went
:36:44. > :36:49.well beyond the maternity leave EU directive, giving 52 weeks maternity
:36:50. > :36:52.leave, given shared parental leave, eight days more annual leave for
:36:53. > :36:57.full-time workers than the EU working time directive. I believe
:36:58. > :37:00.this modern, compassionate Conservative government has an
:37:01. > :37:06.excellent record on these things, underpinned by our membership of the
:37:07. > :37:12.European Union. If it is a modern, compassionate Conservative
:37:13. > :37:18.government, as he describes it, why does it have an implement minister
:37:19. > :37:20.who wants to reduce the burdens, she describes it, of employment
:37:21. > :37:25.legislation and make work less secure? Could I quote one other
:37:26. > :37:31.person who has given some opinions on these matters, he says, "I can't
:37:32. > :37:37.guarantee every person currently in their current job will keep their
:37:38. > :37:41.job. " That was the member for Surrey Heath who is the justice
:37:42. > :37:47.minister, who seems equally relaxed about unemployment rights. So here's
:37:48. > :37:50.the point Mr and a Justice minister who want to reduce what they
:37:51. > :37:59.describe as workers protection as a burden. Can he do something about
:38:00. > :38:02.that? As he knows, we are holding a referendum, that is what is
:38:03. > :38:06.happening. The government has a clear position, which is we are
:38:07. > :38:09.stronger, safer and better off inside a European Union, that is the
:38:10. > :38:14.advice we are giving the boat is in our country, but there are ministers
:38:15. > :38:17.in the government who in a personal capacity campaigning on another side
:38:18. > :38:23.of the argument. I don't agree with them. So I don't agree with what the
:38:24. > :38:27.honourable member for Surrey Heath says, although the honourable member
:38:28. > :38:31.for which says, and I couldn't be clearer about that, the government
:38:32. > :38:36.has a clear position. And on this issue, not only do he and I agree,
:38:37. > :38:39.but only does the Conservative government and the Labour Party
:38:40. > :38:44.agree, but we also have the support of the Liberal Democrats, the
:38:45. > :38:50.support of the Ulster Unionist party, the support of the Green
:38:51. > :38:53.party, this is one occasion when business is large and small and
:38:54. > :38:57.trade unions are on the same site and I think we should celebrate that
:38:58. > :39:02.and get out and campaign as hard as we can. But I do celebrate is the
:39:03. > :39:08.work done by trade unions all across Europe. Persuading the European
:39:09. > :39:11.Union to bring in four weeks paid holiday, laws against sex
:39:12. > :39:19.discrimination, writes for part-time workers, writes for agency workers.
:39:20. > :39:23.But two weeks ago, I raised with the Prime Minister the proposed
:39:24. > :39:28.amendment to the posting of workers directive to close a loophole that
:39:29. > :39:34.allows unscrupulous employers to exploit migrant workers and undercut
:39:35. > :39:38.wages here. Will he now reply to my question and confirm that he will
:39:39. > :39:44.argue in Europe for the amendment to close this loophole that allows this
:39:45. > :39:47.exploitation to go on? I think I said last, we support the current
:39:48. > :39:51.draft, we went to see this sorted out, we have been working with the
:39:52. > :39:54.Dutch Prime Minister who is reading this work and we think an amendment
:39:55. > :39:59.to this will be worthwhile. The current draft is good and we back
:40:00. > :40:04.it. I'm pleased he is backing it but I hope he ensures it goes through.
:40:05. > :40:10.There is another issue I raised with him a couple of weeks ago full stop
:40:11. > :40:13.and that is the anger that exists all over this country, indeed all
:40:14. > :40:18.over the western world, about tax avoidance. I agree that we are more
:40:19. > :40:23.likely to make progress inside the European Union than outside on tax
:40:24. > :40:29.avoidance, but his members of the European Parliament have not been
:40:30. > :40:32.supporting country by country tax transparency, that would force
:40:33. > :40:36.companies to publish their tax payments in each country in which
:40:37. > :40:40.they operate. Will he now tell us when this is going to be supported
:40:41. > :40:45.by his MEPs, when it will go through, to close down just one of
:40:46. > :40:50.the many tax loopholes that exist at the present time? Festival, I would
:40:51. > :40:56.do that no government has done more nationally the crackdown on tax
:40:57. > :40:59.evasion -- first of all. And I would also argue that no government has
:41:00. > :41:06.done more internationally to bring this up the international agenda,
:41:07. > :41:12.made it my centrepiece of the G8, we are now driving change in the
:41:13. > :41:14.European union. Let me confirm, my MEPs to support country by country
:41:15. > :41:20.reporting and they have said that over and over again and I'm happy to
:41:21. > :41:24.repeat that again. I'm really pleased that his MEPs support it, we
:41:25. > :41:27.are all delighted about that, I'd hope they get round to voting for it
:41:28. > :41:32.when the opportunity comes up because that would certainly help.
:41:33. > :41:35.He will be aware that the Labour position is that we want to stay in
:41:36. > :41:40.the European Union to improve workers's writes, tackle
:41:41. > :41:46.exportation, drive down tax evasion and tax avoidance. But we are
:41:47. > :41:52.concerned that these issues are not the priorities of members of his
:41:53. > :41:56.government and his party, such as the member for Uxbridge, the member
:41:57. > :42:02.for Surrey Heath and the member for that. They are speaking to try and
:42:03. > :42:06.destroy any of the social advances made within the European Union. Does
:42:07. > :42:09.he talk to them about this at any time and do they speak for
:42:10. > :42:12.themselves or him and his government, and if they speak for
:42:13. > :42:19.themselves, how are they ministers at the same time? And here I am
:42:20. > :42:21.trying to be so consensual. I am doing my best. I could of course
:42:22. > :42:26.mention that the honourable member for Edgbaston was out there
:42:27. > :42:32.yesterday spelling for Nigel Farage? But I don't want to play that game.
:42:33. > :42:35.I'd want to stress the unity of purpose, particularly over tax
:42:36. > :42:39.evasion, because there is a serious point here. What we have in prospect
:42:40. > :42:45.in the European Union, in part because of British action is the
:42:46. > :42:49.idea of saying that if large foreign multinationals want to invest in the
:42:50. > :43:03.European Union, they will have two report... All over the world.
:43:04. > :43:08.They can unite and saves will be a good thing and shows that when
:43:09. > :43:15.Britain pushes an agenda in Europe, it wins for our citizens. The Prime
:43:16. > :43:20.Minister has repeatedly stated that he secured changes to reform in the
:43:21. > :43:26.EU, will he now confirmed that on the 3rd of June, the voters are not
:43:27. > :43:32.guaranteed any treaty change to EU nor, as no treaty change was
:43:33. > :43:36.achieved despite a promise to deliver international agreement
:43:37. > :43:44.cannot change EU nor? Finally released up-to-date grating our
:43:45. > :43:49.great country, it is a sign he's losing the argument. -- can he stop
:43:50. > :43:54.denigrating our great country. I know he has strong views about this
:43:55. > :43:59.issue and so do I, but on the specific point you wrote is, I'm
:44:00. > :44:02.afraid he's not correct. In the renegotiation we secured the vital
:44:03. > :44:07.treaty changes, one on getting Britain out of ever closer union,
:44:08. > :44:12.and on the protection for our currency. I don't except for one
:44:13. > :44:17.minute that in any way supporting Britain being a member of reform
:44:18. > :44:20.European Union is turning our country down. I think if you love
:44:21. > :44:23.your country can really wanted to be strong in the world, if you love
:44:24. > :44:28.your country, you want opportunities for young people, you don't want to
:44:29. > :44:32.act in a row that could lead to its break-up and that is why what I want
:44:33. > :44:47.to see is not Nigel Farage's little England, I want to see a strong
:44:48. > :44:50.Britain in Europe. Last week, thousands of dead from both sides in
:44:51. > :44:56.the battle of Jutland well remembered in conversions. -- the
:44:57. > :44:59.rhythm that. The Prime Minister joined the Princess Royal, President
:45:00. > :45:08.of Germany and the First Minister, with thousands of people on Orkney
:45:09. > :45:11.to remember the tragedy. European cooperation emerged from both world
:45:12. > :45:15.wars as the best way to secure peace. Does the Prime Minister agree
:45:16. > :45:19.that we should never take peace and security for granted and that it is
:45:20. > :45:26.a strong reason to remain in the European union?
:45:27. > :45:32.I think the right honourable gentleman is right about this, there
:45:33. > :45:35.were very memorable scenes as we stood on that cemetery ground and in
:45:36. > :45:40.the background the British and German frigates together was a sight
:45:41. > :45:44.I am not going to forget, as we commemorated and remembered how many
:45:45. > :45:48.people lost their lives. I want to be clear about this. The words world
:45:49. > :45:53.War three have never passed my lips, let me reassure everyone about that,
:45:54. > :45:58.but can we really take for granted... Of course, they have now
:45:59. > :46:03.well spotted a! LAUGHTER Can we really take for granted the
:46:04. > :46:07.security and stability we enjoy today, when we know our continent
:46:08. > :46:11.has been wracked by so many conflicts in the past. Like all
:46:12. > :46:14.Conservatives, I would always give the greatest credit to Nato for
:46:15. > :46:17.keeping the peace but I think it has always been a Conservative view the
:46:18. > :46:23.European Union has played its role as well.
:46:24. > :46:27.This is not about world War Three but the reality on facts that there
:46:28. > :46:30.have been at war is on the European continent, but outside the European
:46:31. > :46:37.Union Bay have happened in the Balkans, Ukraine, the Caucasus, it
:46:38. > :46:41.is also a fact there have never, ever been any examples, not one
:46:42. > :46:45.single example of armed conflict between member states of the
:46:46. > :46:50.European Union. Will the Prime Minister take the time, the little
:46:51. > :46:54.time that is left ahead of the European referendum, to stress the
:46:55. > :46:58.positive advantages of cooperation, of peace and of stability to us all,
:46:59. > :47:06.not just the single market all the rights we have as citizens, peace
:47:07. > :47:10.and prosperity is an advantage to us all and that is why we should remain
:47:11. > :47:14.in the European Union. I think the strongest argument for
:47:15. > :47:19.the Government's position of wanting us to stay is we will be better off,
:47:20. > :47:22.that that market a 500 million people is absolutely essential for
:47:23. > :47:25.our businesses. I think the argument I was just making that we would be
:47:26. > :47:29.stronger in the world, in terms of getting things done for Britain and
:47:30. > :47:33.our citizens is important, but the argument that we are safer and more
:47:34. > :47:37.secure because of the European Union is a means for dialogue between
:47:38. > :47:41.countries that were previously adversaries and something I will
:47:42. > :47:45.never forget. However frustrating it can get around that table with 27
:47:46. > :47:47.other prime ministers and presidents, you never forget these
:47:48. > :47:52.were countries previously in conflict. Now we talk, discussed,
:47:53. > :47:59.argued and decide that is a far better way of doing things.
:48:00. > :48:02.If my constituents in the coalfields of Nottinghamshire are to share in
:48:03. > :48:06.the economic success driven by this government, they have to have access
:48:07. > :48:10.to employment via good quality public services. Can the Prime
:48:11. > :48:15.Minister give me any assistance in my campaign to open the Robin Hood
:48:16. > :48:22.to Linux, to extend it to various vintages so we can get them on a
:48:23. > :48:26.train into a job? -- extend the line? Quality infrastructure is
:48:27. > :48:29.vital for our economy and I am pleased to say following
:48:30. > :48:35.representations from my honourable friend and others, the Department
:48:36. > :48:39.for Transport have revised the project so lines like the Robin Hood
:48:40. > :48:44.line can benefit from government money to kick-start the man get them
:48:45. > :48:53.going. In 2003, the current Prime Minister
:48:54. > :48:59.and most of today's cabinet joined Tony Blair and his Cabinet at the
:49:00. > :49:02.time in joining the war in Iraq. This is historically factual and
:49:03. > :49:09.cannot be denied. We'll not the judgment of Chilcott be discredited
:49:10. > :49:14.if the report fails to recognise that the then Prime Minister
:49:15. > :49:18.honestly and genuinely believed that his actions, given the information
:49:19. > :49:24.available, was the right thing to do at the time? What I would say to the
:49:25. > :49:27.right honourable lady, and I remember very powerful speeches she
:49:28. > :49:34.made at the time with all the concerns she had for the people in
:49:35. > :49:37.Iraq, and particularly the Kurds, we should wait for the Chilcot Report
:49:38. > :49:41.and what it has to say. I have no idea what is in it, all I do know is
:49:42. > :49:47.its publication is coming quite soon.
:49:48. > :49:54.The European Union recently admitted it has a black hole in its finances
:49:55. > :50:00.of around ?19 billion. 18 months ago my right honourable friend said he
:50:01. > :50:03.won't not pay the EU the surcharge, effectively a final British
:50:04. > :50:07.taxpayers, yet he later was forced to pay up. What reassurance with my
:50:08. > :50:11.right honourable friend give the House that hard-working British
:50:12. > :50:14.taxpayers will not be forced to pay money in this black hole of our
:50:15. > :50:19.nation votes to stay in the European Union and would he accept our only
:50:20. > :50:25.option is for our constituents to vote to Leave the EU?
:50:26. > :50:31.The reassurance I can give my right honourable friend is we fixed the
:50:32. > :50:36.European budget for a seven-year period between 2014-2020 and we
:50:37. > :50:40.fixed the total for that budget that was lower than the previous seven
:50:41. > :50:45.year period and means European budgets are going to go down and not
:50:46. > :50:51.up. That cannot be changed. This is a very important point, the overall
:50:52. > :50:55.ceiling of spending is determined by all 28 Prime Minister 's and
:50:56. > :50:59.presidents. There is a veto over changing it, just as there is a veto
:51:00. > :51:03.over the British rebate. The only person who can give up British
:51:04. > :51:07.rebate is the British Prime Minister and as I long as I'm standing here
:51:08. > :51:13.and Prime Minister there is absolutely no prospect of that
:51:14. > :51:18.happening. Now, I will, as he ended his question with a remark, I will
:51:19. > :51:23.end mine with a remark there is no expert that is saying we would make
:51:24. > :51:27.a saving from leaving the EU. The only black hole there would be would
:51:28. > :51:31.be in our public finances because we would have a smaller economy, lower
:51:32. > :51:43.tax receipts, so we would have to cut spending or put up taxes to make
:51:44. > :51:51.up for the fact. Provided audio and visual
:51:52. > :51:54.information... I have asked the transport minister on this subject.
:51:55. > :51:58.Could the Prime Minister commit his government to sign up to an
:51:59. > :52:02.amendment to the buses Bill which would provide better access ability
:52:03. > :52:07.for all? I will look very closely at what he
:52:08. > :52:11.says. I think I am right in saying the buses Bill is a devolved matter,
:52:12. > :52:15.so it affects issues in England rather than issues in Scotland. But
:52:16. > :52:19.let me look carefully at what it says because we want to make sure
:52:20. > :52:24.disabled people can properly use the bus services we have.
:52:25. > :52:29.My right honourable friend will be aware it is five years since the
:52:30. > :52:34.announcement by Pfizer to scale down operations. Since then with
:52:35. > :52:37.enterprise zone status there has been an enterprise of high-tech
:52:38. > :52:42.businesses on site within climate levels now up to nearly the previous
:52:43. > :52:48.position. He has previously promised a trip to South Thanet, can I ask
:52:49. > :52:54.once more to come see the success in my constituency?
:52:55. > :52:58.I am delighted to make that... To answer that offer and say I would
:52:59. > :53:05.like to go. Ira member very well it was early in 2010 when Pfizer made
:53:06. > :53:10.that decision. I think there were real concerns this would lead to an
:53:11. > :53:14.exit of jobs and investment in my right honourable friend's
:53:15. > :53:18.constituency. Want to take pay tribute to David Willetts, who did a
:53:19. > :53:21.great job working with others, including a local MP, to get
:53:22. > :53:26.businesses to locate in the constituency and to show there is a
:53:27. > :53:31.very strong pharmaceutical and life sciences industry in our country,
:53:32. > :53:40.providing the jobs we need. With industrialists like Braque so
:53:41. > :53:44.and had touchy saying if we left the jobs would be lost, the Brexit
:53:45. > :53:50.economist has revealed their strategy means manufacturing would
:53:51. > :53:59.be mostly eliminated. Would the Prime Minister join me... In calling
:54:00. > :54:04.on the Brexit leaders to say how many other people's jobs they would
:54:05. > :54:09.sacrifice on the altar of their own bid...
:54:10. > :54:13.I think the honourable lady makes an important point, which is one of the
:54:14. > :54:25.reasons why it international companies like Hitachi invest here
:54:26. > :54:28.is because we are members of the single market. I did what the head
:54:29. > :54:32.of Hitachi said this week about wanting us to be the European
:54:33. > :54:35.headquarters, to manufacture those trained in the north-east and solve
:54:36. > :54:39.all over Europe and how that might not be possible if we were to leave
:54:40. > :54:44.was an incredibly powerful statement. So in my clear view, jobs
:54:45. > :54:51.come first, and if people want to vote for jobs, they should vote for
:54:52. > :54:53.Remain on the 23rd of June. Speaking at many universities,
:54:54. > :55:01.colleges and schools across England, and also through organisations
:55:02. > :55:04.organised by the universities UK, University UK and Allianz group I
:55:05. > :55:09.have been struck by the strong interest young people have in
:55:10. > :55:13.remaining in the EU. Does the Prime Minister agree with me that Britain
:55:14. > :55:16.should take a firm lead in the European Union to promote the
:55:17. > :55:18.interests of young people and for their careers, research and
:55:19. > :55:22.opportunities in the future generally?
:55:23. > :55:28.I think our universities have been pretty much unanimous in recommended
:55:29. > :55:32.we vote to stay in the EU, I think that is partly because of the
:55:33. > :55:36.opportunities young people will have of being in the single market of 500
:55:37. > :55:38.million people. Also our universities do well from research
:55:39. > :55:44.funding which is helping to create the businesses and jobs of the
:55:45. > :55:48.future, where we contribute 11 seven of the budget, we received 16% of
:55:49. > :55:52.the allocated funding. Staying in Europe is good for students opted to
:55:53. > :55:56.use, good for young people's opportunities and good for science
:55:57. > :56:02.base. Yesterday the defence committee,
:56:03. > :56:05.Admiral Lord West, commented the Ministry of Defence had effectively
:56:06. > :56:11.run out of money for shipbuilding. Given reports another vessel had to
:56:12. > :56:16.be a squatted over British waters overnight, does the Prime Minister
:56:17. > :56:21.agree that the delay in building new frigates is causing problems and it
:56:22. > :56:26.is essential the money is allocated to deliver this programme in full
:56:27. > :56:31.and on schedule? It is certainly not the case that
:56:32. > :56:36.this country in anyway has run out of money, or run out of ambition
:56:37. > :56:40.when it comes to shipbuilding. We are currently building the two
:56:41. > :56:45.largest ships the Royal Navy has ever had and we are shortly going to
:56:46. > :56:48.be commissioning the type 26 programme, as well as the offshore
:56:49. > :56:52.patrol vessels. The point I would make to the honourable member is
:56:53. > :56:56.there is only one way we could threaten shipbuilding on the Clyde
:56:57. > :57:03.and that would be to pull out of the United Kingdom and see the jobs be
:57:04. > :57:08.decimated as a result. Mr Speaker, the beauty of a
:57:09. > :57:13.referendum is that every voter has an equal voice, every vote carries
:57:14. > :57:16.equal weight and members of Parliament have no more political
:57:17. > :57:20.superiority over anyone else. Does my right honourable friend accept
:57:21. > :57:24.the referendum is not a consultation but an instruction to Parliament
:57:25. > :57:29.from the British people? Is it not incumbent on all of us to accept in
:57:30. > :57:33.advance that Remain would mean remain and Leave would mean leaves,
:57:34. > :57:36.and any attempt to short-change or distort the verdict of the British
:57:37. > :57:40.people would be a democratic outrage?
:57:41. > :57:44.I think my right honourable friend is absolutely right. Every vote
:57:45. > :57:48.counts the same. We have asked the British people for their opinion and
:57:49. > :57:53.we should treat their decision as an instruction to deliver. I know many
:57:54. > :57:58.people would like me to be a bit more nuanced in what I think, to say
:57:59. > :58:01.there are two options, they both have some merit, it is a balanced
:58:02. > :58:05.decision. That might have made my life easier but the problem is, I
:58:06. > :58:09.don't believe it. I very strongly believe we are better off if we stay
:58:10. > :58:13.in and that is why the Government is saying so clearly to the British
:58:14. > :58:17.people and I am saying clearly, better off stronger and safer, but
:58:18. > :58:22.in the end it is the British people's decision.
:58:23. > :58:26.Only last week the Prime Minister was rightly extolling the virtues of
:58:27. > :58:30.the EU as a means to tackle pollution. Yet over recent months
:58:31. > :58:34.the UK Government has led efforts to water down a key you directive aimed
:58:35. > :58:39.at reducing the number of people who die every year from breathing in
:58:40. > :58:43.toxic air. Can you tell us why? What we're doing in our own country
:58:44. > :58:47.is making sure we improve our air quality, go for these cleaner air
:58:48. > :58:51.zones and we have seen a major reduction in particular is in the
:58:52. > :58:58.air over the last two years and we continue doing just that.
:58:59. > :59:04.What the Prime Minister said today I think is right, we have to go and
:59:05. > :59:08.campaign. But I remember what you said yesterday about notifying
:59:09. > :59:14.members if they are going to be in the constituency. Can I say to the
:59:15. > :59:19.Prime Minister, a group of leave campaigners will be descending on
:59:20. > :59:23.Whitney at lunchtime on the Sunday. I will be there. And will the Prime
:59:24. > :59:29.Minister be able to join as and given what he has just said, would
:59:30. > :59:36.he confirm that if the country votes to Leave, he would be able to stay
:59:37. > :59:40.on as Prime Minister and negotiate the exit?
:59:41. > :59:46.I am very sorry I won't be able to meet my honourable friend. I am
:59:47. > :59:51.making an appearance on the Andrew Marr programme on Sunday, but I
:59:52. > :59:53.would recommend he goes to the fleece pub in Whitney and spends as
:59:54. > :00:01.much time and money there rather than anything else.
:00:02. > :00:07.Will we have a decision into the Davis report on airport expansion by
:00:08. > :00:12.The Times the House rises this summer and does he stand by his
:00:13. > :00:16.word, personally, no ifs, no buts, no third runway at Heathrow question
:00:17. > :00:20.mark I absolutely stand by what I said, that we will have a decision
:00:21. > :00:30.by this in the summer and we do need to decide.
:00:31. > :00:35.Next week the breakfast will take place in Westminster Hall when 600
:00:36. > :00:40.people will gather, yet also this week we hear of a Christian union
:00:41. > :00:46.being banned from holding prayer and Bible study meetings. Reportedly on
:00:47. > :00:49.the grounds that government's anti-terrorism prevent strategy.
:00:50. > :00:57.Does the Prime Minister agrees such action moves never intended?
:00:58. > :01:02.Of course, what my honourable friend says is right. I will not be able to
:01:03. > :01:05.attend the prayer breakfast. I know is a very good event and brings a
:01:06. > :01:09.lot of people together and means a lot to Christians around our
:01:10. > :01:15.country. The point she makes about the present duty being misused, I
:01:16. > :01:19.haven't heard of that exact example, but it is clearly ludicrous. People
:01:20. > :01:22.do need to exercise some common sense in making these judgments
:01:23. > :01:27.because it is quite clear that was not what was intended.
:01:28. > :01:31.Every day around 6000 people, many children, take on new caring
:01:32. > :01:35.responsible at his providing on paid care for a family member or friend.
:01:36. > :01:40.Yet many carers say they feel abandoned by everyone, including the
:01:41. > :01:45.Government. Will the pride as the pledges government to do much better
:01:46. > :01:51.for the 9500 carers in my constituency and the many across the
:01:52. > :01:55.country customer I pay tribute to the carers across our country for
:01:56. > :01:58.the selfless work they do, for the immense amount of money they save
:01:59. > :02:02.taxpayers every year. But above all, for the love and
:02:03. > :02:06.commitment they give to the people they are caring for. What we have
:02:07. > :02:10.done is try to help by increasing the number of carers breaks, because
:02:11. > :02:14.many carers will say the one thing they need to go on caring is an
:02:15. > :02:17.occasional break and this time away from their caring responsible at
:02:18. > :02:23.ease. We should continue to work on all those things to help our carers.
:02:24. > :02:27.The largest single source of employment and wealth in my
:02:28. > :02:30.constituency is the London based financial services market. Does the
:02:31. > :02:35.Prime Minister agree with me that the opportunity to continue trading
:02:36. > :02:42.freely in a 500 million single market in financial services, with
:02:43. > :02:46.completed capital markets union is an unparalleled and optimistic
:02:47. > :02:52.opportunity for my constituents and one though no sensible businessman
:02:53. > :02:55.would turn his back on. My honourable friend makes an important
:02:56. > :03:00.point and here it is worth understanding what the single market
:03:01. > :03:05.means. It means a financial services company based in the UK effectively
:03:06. > :03:10.has a passport to trade in 27 other EU countries. If we are to leave and
:03:11. > :03:15.if we leave the single market, we lose that passport right. So by
:03:16. > :03:20.definition, many of the firms would have to relocate at least some of
:03:21. > :03:24.their staff into another European Union country. HSBC have said they
:03:25. > :03:35.would have to scrap 1000 jobs. JP Morgan said they
:03:36. > :03:39.would have to scrap 4000 jobs. Lloyd's came out and said many jobs
:03:40. > :03:42.in insurance would be under threat. This is a concrete example of why
:03:43. > :03:44.the single market matters. I would make the point, because this doesn't
:03:45. > :03:47.just affect his constituency but two thirds of jobs at our outside London
:03:48. > :03:48.and this accounts for 7% of Arab, me. So when experts warn of effects
:03:49. > :04:01.on jobs and To with me that about to leave on
:04:02. > :04:06.the 23rd of June would be a hammer blow for the British steel industry?
:04:07. > :04:12.Would he agree to meet with me in order to discuss a number of
:04:13. > :04:14.decisions being made in the context of the sale process, imminent
:04:15. > :04:24.decisions that will have a huge impact on thousands of jobs in
:04:25. > :04:27.marketed to unseat? I am looking? My honourable gentleman as is the
:04:28. > :04:34.Business Secretary to help in what we can to secure a future for Tata,
:04:35. > :04:39.and that sales process is progressing. We are better off
:04:40. > :04:43.inside the European Union for steel because together, as one of 28
:04:44. > :04:46.countries, we are better able to stand up, whether it is to the
:04:47. > :04:54.Chinese or Americans, over dump steel. Where we put in place those
:04:55. > :04:57.dumping tariffs you can see 99% reductions in the quantity of
:04:58. > :05:04.Chinese deal in this category is being imported into the EU. We still
:05:05. > :05:07.face a difficult situation, there is massive overcapacity but we are
:05:08. > :05:11.definitely better off as part of this organisation, fighting for
:05:12. > :05:18.British steel workers jobs. Will the address an issue that the Remain
:05:19. > :05:20.campaign has pledged and that is our present immigration policy, in all
:05:21. > :05:26.truthfulness, cannot control the numbers coming in from the EU for
:05:27. > :05:29.the benefit of our public services but actually discriminates against
:05:30. > :05:40.the rest of the world, outside the EU? Having spent my evening
:05:41. > :05:46.yesterday with Mr Farage, I'm confused about what it was that the
:05:47. > :05:50.Leave can actually want, thought they would less immigration but
:05:51. > :05:59.never seem to want more immigration from the EU into our country. -- now
:06:00. > :06:02.they seem to want. You should come and work ever for years before you
:06:03. > :06:06.get full access to our welfare system, no more something for
:06:07. > :06:10.nothing, people pay in before they get out and then we should focus on
:06:11. > :06:15.proper controls on migration from outside the EU on which we have made
:06:16. > :06:19.some progress and we can do more. That's the right answer, but the
:06:20. > :06:23.alternative, of an Australian point system, they have twice as much
:06:24. > :06:30.immigration per head as we have here in the UK. That's not the right
:06:31. > :06:39.answer for Britain. As he reaches the end of his time in office...
:06:40. > :06:44.President Obama reflected... His worst mistake was the catastrophe in
:06:45. > :06:48.Libya. What was the Prime Minister's worst mistake in his time in office?
:06:49. > :06:52.The time to reflect on your mistakes is clearly close to the end of your
:06:53. > :07:00.time in office so that doesn't apply!
:07:01. > :07:08.I'm sure the honourable lady is delighted to receive...
:07:09. > :07:21.PMQ 's coming to an end there. Mr Corbyn brought up the issue of
:07:22. > :07:27.sports direct. -- Sports Direct. On the number of problems they were
:07:28. > :07:33.having in that company, working practices there. And a couple of
:07:34. > :07:43.questions on that, he moved on to the need for the EU to provide
:07:44. > :07:49.workers's writes, he decided to attack Priti Patel, who is
:07:50. > :08:00.campaigning to leave the EU. She is an employment minister who says she
:08:01. > :08:06.wants fewer rights for workers. And he talked about the originating the
:08:07. > :08:09.labour market and he brought up the posted workers directive again. And
:08:10. > :08:16.country by country reporting of profits. We will look at all of this
:08:17. > :08:26.in a minute. I think it is still going on, at the moment. I'm not
:08:27. > :08:28.sure if we are going back to it. We have come out a bit early, let's go
:08:29. > :08:38.back in. The Prime Minister ensure that given
:08:39. > :08:41.the number of visitors and the security threats and all the rest of
:08:42. > :08:45.it that the British Embassy and consular staff are fully geared up
:08:46. > :08:50.and resourced to deal with the problems that will arise
:08:51. > :08:54.undoubtedly? I'm grateful for the Right Honourable member for rating
:08:55. > :08:57.this issue and I'm sure this is one occasion when the whole house will
:08:58. > :09:06.want all the Home Nations to stay in Europe for as long as possible. Come
:09:07. > :09:11.on now. I'm going to be watching. Our first game is England against
:09:12. > :09:16.Russia, and I'm going to be watching carefully to check we get strong
:09:17. > :09:20.support! But he makes an important point, which is that this is a very
:09:21. > :09:26.big security undertaking, half a million people are planning to leave
:09:27. > :09:29.the UK to go to this tournament, we have set out clear travel advice
:09:30. > :09:35.because people do need to know that there is a significant terrorist
:09:36. > :09:41.threat in France today and there is a potential threat to this
:09:42. > :09:44.tournament. We set out clearly, the threat level in front is critical,
:09:45. > :09:49.the threat level for the tournament is severe and people need to know
:09:50. > :09:55.that. The French security operation is enormous, 77,000 police, 10,000
:09:56. > :09:59.military personnel, 13,000 security guards, we're providing additional
:10:00. > :10:03.public order support to the French, including deployment of additional
:10:04. > :10:08.police on trains into France, outbound checks and we are helping
:10:09. > :10:13.with sniffer dogs and other areas the French ask us for. We all want
:10:14. > :10:17.to see a great celebration of European football. I wish all the
:10:18. > :10:19.Home Nations well, it's brilliant that Northern Ireland have made it
:10:20. > :10:26.to this tournament and of course Wales and of course England. I look
:10:27. > :10:26.forward to, in the breaks in this campaign, watching sympathetic
:10:27. > :10:41.football. I think that is the end of PMQ 's! I
:10:42. > :10:49.gave a summary of what Mr Corbyn had said so no need to repeat it. You
:10:50. > :10:53.said it was the penultimate PMQ 's today, I think you are right, there
:10:54. > :10:57.could be one next week, the house is rising on Wednesday so there should
:10:58. > :11:04.be won but there is a possibility it might be cancelled before the
:11:05. > :11:08.referendum. I certainly hope not! E-mails. He said, tactically strong
:11:09. > :11:13.punches from Jeremy Corbyn who cleverly argued for a social Europe.
:11:14. > :11:17.No knockout but Mr Cameron was on the ropes. Helen said Jeremy Corbyn
:11:18. > :11:23.is boring us all with the minutiae of the EU. Someone tell him no one
:11:24. > :11:27.can guarantee anyone's job. John said perhaps it's time for him to
:11:28. > :11:30.realise there are times even for the Leader of the Opposition, to back
:11:31. > :11:36.the Prime Minister, especially when they hold the same view is that UK
:11:37. > :11:40.should remain within the EU, or is this a lie? Jeffery says the Messi
:11:41. > :11:45.was upbeat considering the pressure he is under, his comments about
:11:46. > :11:52.other parties supporting him was pretty desperate stuff -- says the
:11:53. > :11:58.Prime Minister was upbeat. Did we learn from the Prime Minister about
:11:59. > :12:01.this vote of the station business, the website crashing last night,
:12:02. > :12:08.people who want to register not able to do, calls for an extension?
:12:09. > :12:11.Always happy to be wrong, Jeremy Corbyn did actually raise it above
:12:12. > :12:15.the Prime Minister Inc that into his answers. There are talks going on
:12:16. > :12:17.between the government and the electoral commission, looking for a
:12:18. > :12:24.way to legally and practically extending the deadline somehow. It's
:12:25. > :12:28.not clear how that will be, were in uncharted territory here because the
:12:29. > :12:31.deadline is normally hard and fast deadline, because there has to be
:12:32. > :12:34.some kind of deadline, if we extended the 24 hours and suddenly
:12:35. > :12:39.there was a rush tonight on the website crashed again, do you do it
:12:40. > :12:43.all again next day? Local authorities have two Eric Abidal
:12:44. > :12:47.after they go to this website so a lot of people will have thought, we
:12:48. > :12:51.have fixed the website, there is an important verification process to
:12:52. > :12:57.combat electoral fraud after you have signed up. But watch this
:12:58. > :13:01.space, we're not quite sure what it's going to be but I think the
:13:02. > :13:07.government is clearly keen to come up with some kind of deal that has
:13:08. > :13:10.the effect of an extension. We see big numbers for registration but is
:13:11. > :13:15.it not true that among those who have been rushing to register, they
:13:16. > :13:21.had not been entitled to register, some of them, and some of them are
:13:22. > :13:24.actually already registered? Important to caveat this, so we know
:13:25. > :13:27.that half a million people have registered on the website in recent
:13:28. > :13:34.days, a huge number, many of them may already be on the register. Just
:13:35. > :13:38.in case you go on, you sign up again to make sure you get your polling
:13:39. > :13:44.card, so we don't know how many of them are new voters who want to vote
:13:45. > :13:50.for the first time, or not. What we know is huge numbers of people have
:13:51. > :13:53.been under 35, hypothetically plays well for the Remain side. As you
:13:54. > :13:59.say, there is concern about people who might not be entitled to vote,
:14:00. > :14:05.this is something that vote Leave are talking about. EU nationals who
:14:06. > :14:10.live in this country, even who have been here for a while and work and
:14:11. > :14:14.pay tax and National Insurance, they are not allowed the boat? Not
:14:15. > :14:21.automatically, you then get into a question about links of residency.
:14:22. > :14:29.The Schalke links. You have to apply for it, that takes time. Same
:14:30. > :14:33.process as a general election. He will have to tell his wife she is
:14:34. > :14:39.not entitled to vote. The recent white it is considerably younger
:14:40. > :14:43.people is used to register on the part of household, that changed to
:14:44. > :14:46.individual registration and the people who missed out the most were
:14:47. > :14:56.the kids who had gone off to live elsewhere. That started under
:14:57. > :15:00.Michael Wales, great friend of mine. The point that was it was to deal
:15:01. > :15:05.with fraud. Individual registration was designed to make sure people
:15:06. > :15:09.didn't register a whole group of people, some of whom were entitled
:15:10. > :15:16.and sunburnt. At the moment, the website is close, there is no point
:15:17. > :15:20.in them going to register? We don't know that, we don't know the
:15:21. > :15:23.situation has changed, a source said to me that people should keep going
:15:24. > :15:29.and basically keep trying to see what happens. Because the website is
:15:30. > :15:34.a website that is there all the time. So if you register... I don't
:15:35. > :15:40.think it has crashed at the moment but what we don't know is if you
:15:41. > :15:42.register now, whether you will get onto the enrolling for the
:15:43. > :15:47.referendum or just for future elections.
:15:48. > :15:53.If they don't sort this out there could be some argy-bargy at the
:15:54. > :15:57.polling booths. Most people think this referendum is going to be
:15:58. > :16:01.tight, and therefore what the Government wants to do is squashed
:16:02. > :16:07.down any reason that might give people hesitation after the vote to
:16:08. > :16:11.say somehow this wasn't fair, there was foul play here, anything in a
:16:12. > :16:17.close vote which might shift it one way or the other. The tickly for the
:16:18. > :16:21.Leave side who feel so strongly about this and making calls about
:16:22. > :16:25.there not being a level playing field because of the Government
:16:26. > :16:30.taking a position. Two other brief things worth pointing out, the Prime
:16:31. > :16:34.Minister pretty much killed off the idea that MPs might be able to vote
:16:35. > :16:39.to stop us leaving the single market, if we choose to leave the
:16:40. > :16:43.EU. That was floated this week by Mike Conley, James Landale. And he
:16:44. > :16:52.confirmed there will be a decision on runways this summer. -- by my
:16:53. > :16:56.colleague. In the south-east. Precisely. One member of parliament
:16:57. > :17:03.said to me a couple of weeks ago, this is only going one way. The very
:17:04. > :17:09.widespread expectation that if David Cameron winds the runway will go
:17:10. > :17:14.ahead. Hugely contentious, it might not go that way, but that is the
:17:15. > :17:18.direction of travel. On voter registration, if you haven't got
:17:19. > :17:23.registered and you think you are entitled to and want to, you should
:17:24. > :17:28.keep going to the website? Yes, from the conversations I've had they
:17:29. > :17:33.should keep going but keep up... The BBC, as soon as we have clarity, we
:17:34. > :17:39.will let everyone know. We have only had the universal franchise for a
:17:40. > :17:48.100 years...! LAUGHTER Should just have a quill pen. What
:17:49. > :17:55.was Jeremy Corbyn trying to achieve today? Two things I think. The first
:17:56. > :17:59.was to point out if we stay within the European Union re-form is a
:18:00. > :18:02.process, not an event that you can do more within the European Union.
:18:03. > :18:07.On things like workers' rights, that's very important to us. A
:18:08. > :18:11.social dimension of Europe that we are really concerned about. Issues
:18:12. > :18:17.like the agency workers directive can be improved upon, and that is an
:18:18. > :18:22.important message to be made. I think the second thing he was doing
:18:23. > :18:25.was this extraordinary, what I call collective irresponsibility. Cameron
:18:26. > :18:30.has allowed his cabinet and ministers to take whatever side they
:18:31. > :18:34.want, but for some of them to be in government and responsible for the
:18:35. > :18:39.issues they are complaining about, but not dealing with them
:18:40. > :18:42.themselves, such as pretty Patel and Michael Gove... What happens ran
:18:43. > :18:49.that Cabinet table? Are issues they have raised about migration outside
:18:50. > :18:54.Europe, of which they have total control? I think with some subtlety
:18:55. > :18:58.he raised those two issues in his string of questions. Would it not
:18:59. > :19:07.have made more impact to develop these Sports Direct story? You must
:19:08. > :19:11.regard that as a rich seam for improving workers conditions
:19:12. > :19:16.question out and the BHS situation where 11,000 workers are going to
:19:17. > :19:22.lose their jobs, through no. Their own. They have never been on strike
:19:23. > :19:27.or asked for huge wage increase. They have all been hard-working. If
:19:28. > :19:32.you take Sports Direct and BHS, you could make a case, especially if you
:19:33. > :19:36.are Labour leader, for the unacceptable face of capitalism? But
:19:37. > :19:43.you only get so many questions. I am pleased he went on Europe, both of
:19:44. > :19:47.those issues can be resolved with domestic legislation. The people
:19:48. > :19:53.from HMRC, who police the minimum wage. I think if there is a link
:19:54. > :19:56.between the two, Jeremy would know the Mike Ashley situation, these
:19:57. > :20:01.Sports Direct situation, if anyone thought those kind of things were
:20:02. > :20:06.confined to the 19th or late 20th-century, they are still going
:20:07. > :20:10.on now. Juxtaposing that with the need for greater worker protection I
:20:11. > :20:16.think with a sensible move, and the European dimension of that. I know
:20:17. > :20:23.you all want to know, Michael Hancock has made a statement on
:20:24. > :20:28.voter registration. We're looking at all options, looking to see we can
:20:29. > :20:33.extend the deadline for applying to vote in the EU referendum. The
:20:34. > :20:37.website is now open and working. We strongly encourage people to
:20:38. > :20:42.register to vote online. Anyone who has already registered does not need
:20:43. > :20:46.to submit a fresh application. We are also offering additional
:20:47. > :20:52.resources to electoral registration officers to cover any additional
:20:53. > :20:53.admin costs. There we are. We have used the latest. Laura, thank you
:20:54. > :20:56.for being with us. Pleasure. Throughout the next week,
:20:57. > :20:59.we are going to be running a number of short films looking at how
:21:00. > :21:02.the BBC handles its coverage of the EU referendum,
:21:03. > :21:04.with the aim of achieving We will look at how the BBC selects
:21:05. > :21:13.audiences, how presenters do fair interviews and how to pick
:21:14. > :21:15.perfect political panels. Today, Adam starts by looking
:21:16. > :21:18.at the editorial guidelines the BBC Covering the EU referendum, we have
:21:19. > :21:31.to stick to a set of guidelines produced by BBC editorial
:21:32. > :21:35.adviser Rick Bailey, who I treat as a sort
:21:36. > :21:41.of 24/7 impartiality hotline. So what's the main thing
:21:42. > :21:50.I've got to think about? The key thing in guidelines
:21:51. > :21:54.for a referendum is that we must achieve broad
:21:55. > :21:56.balance, in other words, it's not about maths,
:21:57. > :21:59.it's about really good judgment and being fair to both
:22:00. > :22:03.sides in a consistent way. And the balance we're
:22:04. > :22:07.trying to achieve is between the arguments,
:22:08. > :22:08.the argument for Remain It's not necessarily
:22:09. > :22:12.between the campaigns, So the key thing is the broad
:22:13. > :22:17.balance the arguments in a Meanwhile the Prime Minister
:22:18. > :22:24.is giving a big speech Is it all right for David
:22:25. > :22:30.Cameron's speech to be the The Prime Minister's view is really
:22:31. > :22:38.important, and the strategy of the Prime Minister
:22:39. > :22:39.and Downing Street and the Remain side,
:22:40. > :22:42.it's important we cover that Don't forget that it's
:22:43. > :22:44.a very long campaign. So you don't have to measure each
:22:45. > :22:47.and every day and every bulletin to get
:22:48. > :22:50.perfect balance. What you have to do is think
:22:51. > :22:52.about being really consistent in the way you cover both sides,
:22:53. > :22:56.across the whole campaign. So of course that will mean David
:22:57. > :23:01.Cameron will get a lot of coverage on a day when he is making a big
:23:02. > :23:06.speech, but we need to approach the other side and their arguments
:23:07. > :23:09.in a similar way, to make sure the audience are hearing those, that
:23:10. > :23:12.range of argument in a balanced way. Campaigners for Britain
:23:13. > :23:21.to leave the EU have been attacking Barack Obama
:23:22. > :23:22.following his comments What do we do when someone
:23:23. > :23:33.like President Obama gets involved? Part of our job is to analyse that
:23:34. > :23:36.and scrutinise it and make sure You don't get balance by saying,
:23:37. > :23:43.we've had one president saying he is on the Remain side,
:23:44. > :23:45.we'd better find another American president who takes
:23:46. > :23:47.the opposite view. Our job is to do good journalism,
:23:48. > :23:49.and find out It's important the audiences hears
:23:50. > :23:55.all the arguments about that. Hi, Rick, it's Adam,
:23:56. > :24:04.what I do about the opinion In a referendum, where it's
:24:05. > :24:11.a one-off, where we haven't had a vote like this for a long time,
:24:12. > :24:16.the amount of data available is very limited, so opinion polls
:24:17. > :24:23.in referendums are very problematic. We will cover them,
:24:24. > :24:25.of course, because what happens in them will affect
:24:26. > :24:27.the politics and will affect how each side approaches it,
:24:28. > :24:30.but we will approach opinion polls Great, thanks, I promise
:24:31. > :24:35.you won't hassle you anymore. And Rick also writes
:24:36. > :24:45.guidance to help BBC journalists stay impartial
:24:46. > :24:57.during We have been scrupulously balanced
:24:58. > :25:01.on this programme, as demonstrated by our two guests. Let's talk about
:25:02. > :25:05.the truthfulness and honesty of the campaigns. Do you think questioning
:25:06. > :25:10.the honesty of the other side, which has been a key way politicians have
:25:11. > :25:14.tried to discredit the other side, has been a responsible way of
:25:15. > :25:19.conducting the campaign? I said it should be measured campaign and
:25:20. > :25:24.about the big issues. You don't think... The key thing about this is
:25:25. > :25:29.however many facts you want, you want more. Voters say we don't have
:25:30. > :25:32.enough facts, but you have to go with your common sense, York
:25:33. > :25:40.experience, your heart. Art matters. We getting into the minute I have
:25:41. > :25:46.facts? Hang on a minute, is this the truth or a lie. The Prime Minister
:25:47. > :25:51.says Turkey won't join the EU. True or not? Turkey have applied to join
:25:52. > :25:58.the EU and are on the waiting list. We passed a motion a short time ago.
:25:59. > :26:01.But of course, he is right it is not going to happen imminently. If we
:26:02. > :26:07.said they will come in tomorrow that would be untrue. But Turkey
:26:08. > :26:10.certainly want to be in the EU. Vote leaves have put out in response to
:26:11. > :26:17.David Cameron's appearance on the show last night on ITV, what they
:26:18. > :26:21.point out as five outright lies. The campaign is looking through the
:26:22. > :26:27.prism of truth and lies. At the end of the day there are always debates
:26:28. > :26:31.in all campaigns, all political exchange about who is right and who
:26:32. > :26:36.is wrong, of course that is true. But I don't think slurs are helpful
:26:37. > :26:40.and either side and it has happened on both sides. 80 million Turks will
:26:41. > :26:49.be able to have access to the UK if we stay in the EU? 85 million. It
:26:50. > :26:53.has gone up. I think the Leave side have been absolutely disgraceful
:26:54. > :26:57.about this. The posters don't say Turkey might join the EU but Turkey
:26:58. > :27:03.are joining the EU. It will take longer than my lifetime, given that
:27:04. > :27:07.they closed one chapter... Given the situation with Cyprus and their
:27:08. > :27:14.record with human rights. As it been an edifying way to conduct the
:27:15. > :27:18.campaign? No. On your side as well, lies, truth... When someone says 75
:27:19. > :27:25.million Turks, the whole population of Turkey going to wait at Calais to
:27:26. > :27:33.come to Britain... Come on! 350 million, they state we sent ?350
:27:34. > :27:39.million every week to the EU. We have to stop you there. In interest
:27:40. > :27:44.on balance we have to stop you there because we have run out of time.
:27:45. > :27:48.Now, just to let you know that I'll be on BBC One tonight for the second
:27:49. > :27:50.in my series of four extensive interviews with leading campaigners
:27:51. > :27:54.I've already spoken to the Shadow Foreign Secretary Hilary Benn,
:27:55. > :27:57.and tonight, I'll be joined live by the Chancellor,
:27:58. > :28:03.On Friday, I'll be interviewing Ukip leader Nigel Farage.
:28:04. > :28:05.And then the following Friday - that's June 17th -
:28:06. > :28:07.I'll be speaking to Leave campaigner and former
:28:08. > :28:10.Tory Cabinet Minister, Iain Duncan Smith, at the later time
:28:11. > :28:21.There's just time to put you out of your misery and give
:28:22. > :28:47.Robert got 1984, well done. I should have said, press the red button. Too
:28:48. > :28:53.late. You have both done it. Unity. They are both doing it! Thanks to
:28:54. > :29:02.all of our guests, I hope you can join me tonight. Goodbye.
:29:03. > :29:06.It's home to a million people at any one time...
:29:07. > :29:08...consumes tens of millions of meals,
:29:09. > :29:12.burns around ?150 billion worth of jet fuel...