29/06/2016

:00:37. > :00:38.Good morning, and welcome to the Daily Politics.

:00:39. > :00:40.Things continue to move at a breakneck speed

:00:41. > :00:42.here at Westminster, with the future direction of both

:00:43. > :00:46.the Conservatives and Labour in doubt.

:00:47. > :00:48.And there's still the little matter of Britain's exit from

:00:49. > :00:55.David Cameron has said farewell to his last ever EU summit,

:00:56. > :00:58.and he warned his former fellow leaders they can't shy away

:00:59. > :01:06.Jeremy Corbyn has lost the confidence of eight

:01:07. > :01:08.out of ten Labour Mps, and has been hit by as many

:01:09. > :01:10.as 60 resignations from his frontbench team.

:01:11. > :01:12.He looks set to face a leadership challenge,

:01:13. > :01:15.but Mr Corbyn says he won't "betray" his supporters by resigning.

:01:16. > :01:19.You might not have heard of him, but Stephen Crabb becomes the first

:01:20. > :01:21.Conservative MP to announce he's standing to lead the party

:01:22. > :01:23.and become Prime Minister, he's promising to champion

:01:24. > :01:34.With one leader definitely on the way out, and the other

:01:35. > :01:36.increasingly isolated in Parliament, Prime Minister's Questions

:01:37. > :01:39.could be a dramatic moment - or just a very strange one.

:01:40. > :01:54.Either way you won't want to miss it, live from midday.

:01:55. > :01:57.All that in the next hour and a half, and with us

:01:58. > :02:00.for the whole of the programme today we're joined by Labour's

:02:01. > :02:02.Emily Thornberry, and the Conservative David Davis.

:02:03. > :02:04.At the time of writing this script, Emily was

:02:05. > :02:06.the Shadow Foreign Secretary, and David hadn't announced he wants

:02:07. > :02:19.Has anything changed in the last five minutes we should know about?

:02:20. > :02:28.No, still in the job? No that I'm aware of. It could all change. It is

:02:29. > :02:32.First today, let's talk about David Cameron,

:02:33. > :02:35.who said au revoir to his last ever EU summit in Brussels last night.

:02:36. > :02:37.The remaining 27 countries will continue meeting today,

:02:38. > :02:39.but without the British Prime Minister for the first

:02:40. > :02:43.Mr Cameron looked rather emotional in his parting press conference,

:02:44. > :02:46.and he made it clear that he laid much of the blame for his failure

:02:47. > :03:08.to win the referendum on the Eu's refusal to do much about migration.

:03:09. > :03:15.I think people recognise the strength of the economic case for

:03:16. > :03:20.staying, but there was a very great concern about the movement of

:03:21. > :03:26.people, and immigration, and I think that is coupled with a concern about

:03:27. > :03:30.the issues of sovereignty and ability to control these things, and

:03:31. > :03:33.I think you know, we need to, we need to think about that, Europe

:03:34. > :03:37.needs to think about that, and I think that is going to be one of the

:03:38. > :03:43.major tasks for the next Prime Minister.

:03:44. > :03:49.So Dave if it is about immigration, do you agree with that? It is not

:03:50. > :03:52.all about immigration. But it was the single biggest issue. What was

:03:53. > :03:56.the biggest? The big South West to control the country, if you look at

:03:57. > :04:00.the poll analysis, that is what came first, but the second biggest issue

:04:01. > :04:05.was immigration an certainly I think, in the northern working class

:04:06. > :04:11.seat, the surprise of the night, it absolutely the issue, in my own part

:04:12. > :04:17.of the world my local builder not had a pay increase for ten year. So

:04:18. > :04:24.it follows therefore, that as we leave the EU, your side of the

:04:25. > :04:28.argument will have to do something quite concrete and substantial about

:04:29. > :04:31.immigration, all those who voted for your side will be deeply

:04:32. > :04:35.disappointed. No doubt about that, we have to bring it under national

:04:36. > :04:38.control and control it properly down to a viable level, really. One that

:04:39. > :04:43.suits the overall economic and social interest of the country Is it

:04:44. > :04:48.possible to give us an idea of what a viable level would be? It is

:04:49. > :04:56.currently net total migrant last year was running about 330,000. A

:04:57. > :05:01.lot less, probably 100,000 net. So you would have to splash slash

:05:02. > :05:05.non-EU migration Both would have to come down. The point I am going to

:05:06. > :05:11.make, is we talk about points system, the point about the points

:05:12. > :05:16.system is that you decide each year what your Labour shortages are, what

:05:17. > :05:20.your housing circumstances are, and make a decision each year-by-year.

:05:21. > :05:25.So as a Conservative who believes in the free market you are advocating

:05:26. > :05:30.manpower planning It is not manpower planning. It is. You will have to

:05:31. > :05:33.guess at what the economy needs That is what the Australians do, that I

:05:34. > :05:36.have a Conservative Government for long time and instituted just such a

:05:37. > :05:39.system. You are slashing by over a third. They haven't had a

:05:40. > :05:44.Conservative Government for a long time They did when they put the

:05:45. > :05:51.points system in. When I was Shadow Home Secretary, it was 46, 60,000 a

:05:52. > :05:56.year, we weren't suffer, we had great growth numbers, it happened to

:05:57. > :06:01.be 3% GDP per capita so everybody was gaining from it. That went from

:06:02. > :06:09.those numbers to ten times that, and stayed there for a decade. OK. All

:06:10. > :06:14.unplanned. Labour will have to device a policy on ill integration,

:06:15. > :06:18.now we are in a position to control non-EU migration and EU migration

:06:19. > :06:23.when Brexit happens, you need a policy on immigration. Well, we

:06:24. > :06:26.always had a policy on immigration but we immediate to listen carefully

:06:27. > :06:32.to what the voters were saying about that. What was that policy? I think,

:06:33. > :06:38.what was the policy? Well, the policy was that the, as to non-EU

:06:39. > :06:43.migration people could come here if they were claiming asylum, if they

:06:44. > :06:49.wanted to have family reunion. That is a legal obligation. Going through

:06:50. > :06:53.them, family reunion and certain people could come here from round

:06:54. > :06:58.the world if they had the skills necessary, and in relation to...

:06:59. > :07:02.Show You didn't need one with the EU because it was free movement. So

:07:03. > :07:07.what would is it possible at the moment to give us an idea of the

:07:08. > :07:13.outline of the Labour immigration policy? No, not at the moment. It is

:07:14. > :07:16.too early? Too early. I can tell people that know, we have been

:07:17. > :07:20.listening to what the public have been saying. Labour politicians have

:07:21. > :07:25.been telling me that for years you have been listen, people want to

:07:26. > :07:28.know. I understand that, I think the plates have moved and I think we

:07:29. > :07:33.need to as a matter of urgency address this. I was Shadow Home

:07:34. > :07:36.Secretary when this big changed happened and it was plain it wasn't

:07:37. > :07:40.deliberate. That was the year, those were the years in which David

:07:41. > :07:44.Blunkett was saying we will get 13,000 people in from eastern

:07:45. > :07:50.Europe, when the AA came in. I kept pressing him on it. He said the Home

:07:51. > :07:55.Office view, not his, it was a mistake, and that, unfortunately

:07:56. > :08:00.that mistake ran on, Can I clarify an issue with both of you. You have

:08:01. > :08:07.been a minute stir, you have a legal background. Mr Juncker saying if the

:08:08. > :08:12.Tories choose a Remain Prime Minister they will have two weeks to

:08:13. > :08:17.invoke Article 50. Can we clarify it is not up to Jean-Claude Juncker.

:08:18. > :08:21.None of his business. It's the call of the country involved. There is an

:08:22. > :08:26.expulsion clause, it is not Article 50. I think it is article 7. That is

:08:27. > :08:31.if we become a fascist state or something like that. It is not

:08:32. > :08:34.relevant. Once the clock run there's is a two-year timetable but do you

:08:35. > :08:38.agree with that, it is not up to Jean-Claude Juncker to decide. I

:08:39. > :08:41.think more importantly it speaks of the anger that is felt in Europe.

:08:42. > :08:47.You have to remember, what did Gove Gove say during the election? He

:08:48. > :08:51.said he hoped that we would vote for Brexit and there could be a

:08:52. > :08:54.contagion across Europe and the European countries would liberate

:08:55. > :08:58.themselveses from Europe. You can imagine if a Brexiteer remain leader

:08:59. > :09:02.of the country, there is not going to be... He can't tell us to... What

:09:03. > :09:07.is Labour's position, when do you think Article 50 should be

:09:08. > :09:12.triggered? I think that we should not personally, and again, we, this

:09:13. > :09:18.is, this is very very early day, but I personally think that we should

:09:19. > :09:21.consider, I don't think we should have Article 50 implemented until we

:09:22. > :09:24.have a new Prime Minister, and I think that we should have a general

:09:25. > :09:28.election. You think there should be a general election. I think there

:09:29. > :09:32.should. All right. You wouldn't trigger Article 50 until after that.

:09:33. > :09:35.The public need to have an opportunity to consider this. I

:09:36. > :09:40.think it will play out and people will realise they were... I think

:09:41. > :09:44.that people will realise they were lied to during this campaign, and it

:09:45. > :09:50.will give them a chance to see the truth of what it really means to be

:09:51. > :09:53.in Europe. People are angry at the Commission, the bureaucracy, not the

:09:54. > :09:57.countries, the behaviour of Merkel and other countries and the Swedes,

:09:58. > :10:03.it is very different. They are starting to be conciliatory. There

:10:04. > :10:07.is an east European head of steam getting up to get rid of Jean-Claude

:10:08. > :10:10.Juncker. We need to move on, do you think there should be an election

:10:11. > :10:15.after the Conservatives have chosen a new leader? I don't because this

:10:16. > :10:16.is a direct outcome of one of our manifesto proposals which was to

:10:17. > :10:20.have the referendum. All right. So, on the one hand things look

:10:21. > :10:23.pretty bleak for Labour He's lost the confidence

:10:24. > :10:26.of the majority of his parliamentary party, and been hit by so many

:10:27. > :10:29.resignations it's not clear that he can even come close

:10:30. > :10:46.to filling all the vacancies Some may have to multi task. Do job

:10:47. > :10:50.share. Pat Glass who was made Shadow Education Secretary on Monday, today

:10:51. > :10:52.is Wednesday, she has said she is resigning after less than three

:10:53. > :10:54.days. That is probably a record. But on the other hand,

:10:55. > :10:58.the barriers for his opponents to challenge him are high,

:10:59. > :11:01.and as best we can tell he retains the support of a large part

:11:02. > :11:04.of the party in the country. These are difficult times

:11:05. > :11:09.for the Labour leader, yesterday only 40 MPs supported him

:11:10. > :11:12.in a vote of no confidence compared The vote has no constitutional

:11:13. > :11:16.legitimacy, so what happens now? If an MP wants to initiate

:11:17. > :11:23.a leadership challenge they need The vote has no constitutional

:11:24. > :11:25.legitimacy, so what happens now? If an MP wants to initiate

:11:26. > :11:28.a leadership challenge they need to get the backing of 20%

:11:29. > :11:30.of MPs and MEPs. If this happens a leadership contest

:11:31. > :11:41.is triggered with Labour Party members, affiliated trade union

:11:42. > :11:42.supporters and registered The big question remains over

:11:43. > :11:46.whether Jeremy Corbyn would automatically get

:11:47. > :11:48.onto the ballot or whether he'd need If he did make it any contender

:11:49. > :12:01.would have a difficult job. Over a quarter of one million people

:12:02. > :12:04.voted for Mr Corbyn in the last Labour leadership election which

:12:05. > :12:07.amounts to nearly 60% of the vote. Our political correspondent,

:12:08. > :12:19.Iain Watson, can update Yet again, there is another

:12:20. > :12:24.resignation, perhaps two, where do we stand at this point in terms of a

:12:25. > :12:29.leadership contest? Think there is going to be one, the question is who

:12:30. > :12:34.sit going to be. You mentioned it briefly but this is what Pat glass

:12:35. > :12:37.is saying, with a heavy heart I am resigning at Shadow Secretary of

:12:38. > :12:40.State for Education, it was my dream job but the situation is untenable.

:12:41. > :12:45.Because that situation is untenable, that is why we are likely to see a

:12:46. > :12:48.leadership contest. It is probably worth asking Emily Thornberry

:12:49. > :12:52.whether she is still in place at the moment. The question is who is going

:12:53. > :12:58.to challenge him? To trigger the leadership challenge you need the

:12:59. > :13:04.support of 51 MPs. It is very very likely that Angela Eagle has got 51

:13:05. > :13:08.fellow MPs ready to back her. The question is what does the Deputy

:13:09. > :13:12.Leader Tom Watson do? Last night the view was it was best not to rush

:13:13. > :13:19.into the immediate challenge to Jeremy Corbyn, to try as one person

:13:20. > :13:22.said let him stew in his own juice, go to Prime Minister's Questions,

:13:23. > :13:27.underline the scale of opposition from behind him on his benches. Make

:13:28. > :13:32.him feel uncomfortable. If he throws in the towel Tom Watson takes over

:13:33. > :13:36.as interim leader and he can have an open leadership contest, as it were

:13:37. > :13:39.in his own time. If Jeremy Corbyn digs in his heels, then it needs a

:13:40. > :13:44.challenge and the question then is whether Angela Eagle is that

:13:45. > :13:48.challenger or whether Tom Watson who is reluctant do this, then becomes

:13:49. > :13:52.willing to take Jeremy Corbyn on head on, which might mean of course

:13:53. > :14:00.giving up his position as Deputy Leader. One other thing to think

:14:01. > :14:03.about, is if there is a vacancy, normally you only need 38 to back

:14:04. > :14:07.them. If Jeremy Corbyn slung in the towel as it were an restood he would

:14:08. > :14:13.have to overcome a smaller threshold in the 51 votes you were talking

:14:14. > :14:21.about. It will be very strange in PMQs on that side of the House.

:14:22. > :14:24.Emily Thornberry isn't Mr Corbyn a captain without a crew? I don't

:14:25. > :14:28.think, so if the Labour Party is a third of a million people strong,

:14:29. > :14:32.you know, we are our Members of Parliament, members of the European

:14:33. > :14:36.Parliament, we are councillor, activists. He doesn't have a crew in

:14:37. > :14:39.the common, he can't fill the Shadow Cabinet position, it is not the

:14:40. > :14:44.party in the country that is the opposition it is the political party

:14:45. > :14:49.and he can't fill the positions. Think our democracy works, on lots

:14:50. > :14:54.of different levels. We have to remember he was elected less than a

:14:55. > :14:59.year ago on a 60% of the mandate. We are a democracy. I understand that,

:15:00. > :15:03.but even so, how can he function now, and if he cannot fill a Shadow

:15:04. > :15:07.Cabinet, or the posts that go with it? Well, he has made it clear he is

:15:08. > :15:12.is not going anywhere, that if anybody wants to challenge them,

:15:13. > :15:16.they should... I didn't ask about that, he still has six vacancies and

:15:17. > :15:21.another 40 posts that follow, how does he do that? We will have to see

:15:22. > :15:27.how it works out, but I think people need to be clear his view is, is

:15:28. > :15:30.that he is going to stay. As say, we will maybe come on to that, who is

:15:31. > :15:41.your shadow Foreign Office team. ? I have Fabian Hamilton, who is doing

:15:42. > :15:46.Europe, and Catherine West on another junior minister. And has

:15:47. > :15:51.everyone else had their teams appointed yet? I don't know. It has

:15:52. > :16:00.been a chaotic couple of days. I couldn't be naming everybody's teams

:16:01. > :16:03.today. Does this amount to a coup? I think this is something people have

:16:04. > :16:16.been thinking about for some time. Who? I don't know. So it is a coup?

:16:17. > :16:20.Well, it's certainly a challenge. The question is, what is Jeremy

:16:21. > :16:25.going to do about it? Know, the question is, is this a coup, and if

:16:26. > :16:31.so, who is behind it? The symptoms of a coup are evidence of prior

:16:32. > :16:36.organisation. It was clearly organised to come about after the

:16:37. > :16:37.referendum. There is going to be a challenge now from your

:16:38. > :16:42.Parliamentary colleagues for the leadership. If there is, is it your

:16:43. > :16:47.view that Mr Corbyn will automatically be on the alert paper

:16:48. > :16:55.as the incumbent? In the end, I am a lawyer. I have obviously looked at

:16:56. > :16:58.the rules! That is why I am asking. Your free legal advice is that of

:16:59. > :17:03.course he will be on the ballot. The rules talk about challenge owners

:17:04. > :17:07.and vacancies, and Jeremy is an incumbent and neither of those two

:17:08. > :17:18.things will apply to him, so he will be on the ballot. I haven't seen the

:17:19. > :17:22.other legal advice. I have seen the legal advice that was talked about

:17:23. > :17:29.on some of the other news channels. And I have seen the rules myself. I

:17:30. > :17:39.would be interested to see how it is put together. Did you think you

:17:40. > :17:43.would ever see a time when 80% of the Parliamentary Labour Party would

:17:44. > :17:46.have no confidence in its leader, and that the Scottish nationalism

:17:47. > :17:50.would be vying to become the official opposition? Is this not a

:17:51. > :17:55.measure of the depths to which your party has now sunk? I think we are

:17:56. > :18:00.going through a very tough time, no doubt about it. And it is a huge

:18:01. > :18:04.shame. My view is that the Labour Party should be focusing on the

:18:05. > :18:09.country and the crisis we are having as a result of the Brexit vote. Why

:18:10. > :18:13.have you not resigned? Because I think there needs to be a voice of

:18:14. > :18:17.calm. We need cool head at this time and frankly, there needs to be

:18:18. > :18:21.somebody within the opposition taking the role of pulling together

:18:22. > :18:25.what Labour's position will be on the Brexit vote. If it is a battle

:18:26. > :18:29.between Jeremy Corbyn and Angela Eagle for the Labour leadership, who

:18:30. > :18:34.will you support? Firstly, I would support Jeremy, and secondly, I

:18:35. > :18:38.don't think it will be just those two standing. You would continue to

:18:39. > :18:42.support Jeremy Corbyn even in a leadership challenge? Jeremy has

:18:43. > :18:47.been elected by 60% of the membership, and he still has that

:18:48. > :18:53.democratic mandate. Why do so many of his parliamentary colleagues

:18:54. > :18:59.think he is just not up to the job? What is interesting is that this is

:19:00. > :19:11.all about personal criticism. It is verging on personal abuse. 80% of

:19:12. > :19:16.the PLP, they say he is a nice guy, but they don't think he is up to the

:19:17. > :19:20.job and they don't think with him as leader, you can win in 2020. What

:19:21. > :19:25.was interesting at the Parliamentary Labour Party meeting on Monday was

:19:26. > :19:31.that all the criticism was about personality. There was not one

:19:32. > :19:40.criticism of him in relation to policy. In terms of where the party

:19:41. > :19:46.is going. None of it was criticisms of what he stands for politically.

:19:47. > :19:51.That is a hell of an achievement, to move the party in the last year to

:19:52. > :19:56.where it is, putting the importance of fighting austerity on the map. We

:19:57. > :20:03.don't know what that means, fighting austerity. There is no policy for

:20:04. > :20:06.that. We don't know what the size of the Budget deficit would be, we

:20:07. > :20:12.don't know the tax and spend policies, it is just rhetoric. It is

:20:13. > :20:17.not rhetoric, it is about investing in our country to grow the economy.

:20:18. > :20:20.I think it is completely opposite to what the Tories stand for. The idea

:20:21. > :20:27.that we might be heading for a session, and the only -- we might be

:20:28. > :20:30.heading for a recession and the only economist in the world who thinks

:20:31. > :20:36.the way you get out of a recession is to cut back on the money supply

:20:37. > :20:42.even more is George Osborne. He is not saying he would cut back on the

:20:43. > :20:56.money supply. The austerity Budget is fiscal positioning. If we do know

:20:57. > :21:00.Labour's position, the current budget deficit is 80 billion. How

:21:01. > :21:04.big a deficit would you be prepared to run? We would need to look at the

:21:05. > :21:09.books when we came into power, and we would need to make sure we were

:21:10. > :21:12.investing. Investing means borrowing. It is also about the

:21:13. > :21:18.extent of need. Who knows how big the recession may be when we do get

:21:19. > :21:22.into power? We will have to make a judgment at that point. But the

:21:23. > :21:25.responsible thing to do is for a government to spend money at a time

:21:26. > :21:37.of recession. Is 80 billion too bigger deficit, eight years after

:21:38. > :21:42.the crash? The economy is going. At the moment. The pound is crashing.

:21:43. > :21:48.The pound was rising this morning. Then I am glad to hear it. How

:21:49. > :21:54.loaded we get before it starts to rise again? Why are you glad to hear

:21:55. > :22:03.it? Of course I am glad. It could be good for exports. Not to have the

:22:04. > :22:07.pound this low. But it has risen from a very low point, and the worry

:22:08. > :22:09.is, where are we going? Where are we going? I will tell you

:22:10. > :22:12.where we are going! Follow me. So we don't know if this summer will

:22:13. > :22:15.see a Labour leadership contest, but we know for certain

:22:16. > :22:17.the Conservatives will be choosing The pundits' favourites are either

:22:18. > :22:22.Boris Johnson or Theresa May, but at least in the opening stages

:22:23. > :22:25.the party should have a wider field This morning, Work and Pensions

:22:26. > :22:31.Secretary Stephen Crabb announced I was brought up to understand

:22:32. > :22:34.that nothing gets handed On the rainy rugby fields

:22:35. > :22:42.of West Wales, I learned that it's not a question of waiting

:22:43. > :22:45.for the ball to pop out If you want it, you do what's

:22:46. > :23:00.required So, Stephen Crabb, the worst kept

:23:01. > :23:06.secret in Westminster for the last 24 hours, has announced he is going

:23:07. > :23:10.to run. But Boris Johnson is the favourite. Is he the best man for

:23:11. > :23:15.the job? I think he is. I am going to be supporting him. The biggest

:23:16. > :23:19.issue in front of us for the next several years will be managing

:23:20. > :23:23.Brexit, bringing about the improvement in our trade position,

:23:24. > :23:30.the control of our borders. But needs vision, optimism, energy,

:23:31. > :23:37.drive. Boris has those. Is he a man of integrity that people will trust?

:23:38. > :23:44.On those issues, yes. It has to go before MPs first. Oh, yes. I don't

:23:45. > :23:49.do the numbers. I am not on Boris' team. Wood July to be? Not

:23:50. > :23:54.particularly, I am just supporting him. I don't know the numbers, but I

:23:55. > :23:59.would be amazed if he is not already passing 100. Theresa May, and

:24:00. > :24:07.admittedly this is just anecdotal, but she is looking popular. On some

:24:08. > :24:11.of the betting sheets, she is pulling ahead of Iris Johnson now

:24:12. > :24:15.that the role is coming up. It is a bit early to make those judgments --

:24:16. > :24:19.she's pulling ahead of Boris Johnson. But the favourite never

:24:20. > :24:26.win. That is the old argument. These rules of thumb are always good until

:24:27. > :24:29.they are not. There is no doubt that Theresa May will get a lot of

:24:30. > :24:34.Parliamentary support. She is the primary Remain candidates. I think

:24:35. > :24:37.it will be Theresa versus Boris, and we will have a serious argument

:24:38. > :24:41.about what the country should look like in a few years. I think Boris

:24:42. > :24:47.has the energy, drive, vision, optimism. If optimism is a force

:24:48. > :24:53.multiplier, Boris is a force multiplier. You came out very

:24:54. > :24:56.strongly about the importance of immigration and the importance of

:24:57. > :25:00.being able to control our borders and cut back immigration to tens of

:25:01. > :25:04.thousands, and yet the statement Boris has come out with is that we

:25:05. > :25:08.should be in the free market and that the referendum was never about

:25:09. > :25:16.immigration. That is not quite what he said. He clarified this morning.

:25:17. > :25:25.With respect, this is going to be a two and a half year process. All the

:25:26. > :25:32.things the Leave and Remain sides said before going to be proved

:25:33. > :25:37.wrong. I am not sure, but I am pretty confident that we are going

:25:38. > :25:41.to see a significant sea change in the attitude of Europe to migration

:25:42. > :25:44.in the next couple of years. That was presaged by David Cameron. Are

:25:45. > :25:49.you sure Boris Johnson is committed to some of the things he said about

:25:50. > :25:56.immigration before? The only question I asked him was that. He

:25:57. > :26:05.said, I am absolutely committed to proper control of immigration by us.

:26:06. > :26:09.You said is no snap election, and sources close to Boris Johnson are

:26:10. > :26:14.saying they would not favour a snap election. Why not? Because this is

:26:15. > :26:21.the direct outcome of a manifesto proposal, namely the referendum. I

:26:22. > :26:26.don't think that frankly, a year in... A year in, David Cameron won

:26:27. > :26:29.with a majority. If I was making a tactical judgment given the state of

:26:30. > :26:32.the Labour Party at the moment, I would say to have a snap election,

:26:33. > :26:38.but there was no constitutional need for it. What will we do if there is

:26:39. > :26:50.no election? Producing more history than we can consume at the moment. I

:26:51. > :26:54.agree with that. I suspect in the weeks ahead, there will be ups and

:26:55. > :26:59.downs with the currency. There have been some glum faces about this

:27:00. > :27:05.week, George Osborne, Roy Hodgson, Jean-Claude Juncker. We thought we

:27:06. > :27:10.probably would not see anyone any more glum, until we saw the pictures

:27:11. > :27:16.of the first meeting of Jeremy Corbyn's new look, slimmed down

:27:17. > :27:20.Shadow Cabinet. Technically known as having a face like a wet weekend.

:27:21. > :27:25.This was just before the Labour leader turned to his spin doctor and

:27:26. > :27:30.was overheard saying "I'm not sure this is a great idea". People often

:27:31. > :27:31.say that when they tune in to the Daily Politics. So what could cheer

:27:32. > :27:41.Mr Corbyn and his team up? What else but a Daily Politics mode

:27:42. > :27:45.and a plate of biscuits? It is sure to improve even the most awkward of

:27:46. > :27:52.meetings and chase away those no-confidence blues. But if you want

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:27:55. > :27:57.get one. All you have to do is tell us when

:27:58. > :28:01.this happened. # Together we stand,

:28:02. > :28:04.divided we fall # Let's get on the ball

:28:05. > :28:13.and work together... I'm not quite sure as to my legal

:28:14. > :28:17.position as a member of Parliament and how much of my

:28:18. > :28:28.work I can carry on. # Heaven help the boy

:28:29. > :28:39.who won't reach 21 # Heaven help

:28:40. > :28:45.the man who gave that boy a gun... # And you're always there to lend

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:29:28. > :29:40.Because I said so. It's coming up to midday here -

:29:41. > :29:43.there's Big Ben - Yes, Prime Minister's Questions

:29:44. > :29:54.is on its way. It is going to be, well, different

:29:55. > :29:56.from any others we have covered the past 30 years.

:29:57. > :30:01.Laura Kuenssberg is here to tell us more.

:30:02. > :30:07.Since this is a moving story, tell us the latest. In the last 15

:30:08. > :30:12.minutes, I have spoken to Harriet Harman, the former deputy leader and

:30:13. > :30:15.former acting leader. And after decades of not really speaking about

:30:16. > :30:19.about leadership because she has always taken a leadership is

:30:20. > :30:25.assumed, she has just told me that Jeremy Corbyn has to go. She urges

:30:26. > :30:29.him to go. Chirac said that he was elected with a large majority -- she

:30:30. > :30:33.accepts that he was elected with a majority of the leadership, but he

:30:34. > :30:38.has failed in her view to lead, and therefore that mandate does not

:30:39. > :30:42.apply. She is obviously very upset by the situation, and she warns that

:30:43. > :30:46.if he stays on, he risks the party completely collapsing around him.

:30:47. > :30:50.That was in the last few minutes. There is also a letter from 77

:30:51. > :30:53.Labour councillors that has just been published, saying it is time

:30:54. > :31:01.for him to go. Huge pressure piling on him, but his supporters still say

:31:02. > :31:04.the mandate he got from last year allows him to stay. Are you

:31:05. > :31:10.surprised Harriet Harman has said this, Emily Thornberry? No. I have

:31:11. > :31:11.had conversations with Harriet. It has been simmering for a while.

:31:12. > :31:24.Yeah. Let's goes Thank you. I know the House will

:31:25. > :31:28.enjoy me in condemning the terrorist attacks in Turkey last night. Our

:31:29. > :31:33.thoughts and prayers are with those who were killed and those who were

:31:34. > :31:36.injured. There are no reports of any UK casualties but the Foreign Office

:31:37. > :31:42.are working with the authorities to establish the full facts. I spoke to

:31:43. > :31:45.the President this morning to express the UK's condolence,

:31:46. > :31:50.detailseses are still emerging but we stand as one in our defiance

:31:51. > :31:53.against these barbaric act, this week marks the sensory of the battle

:31:54. > :31:59.of the Somme there will be a two minute silence on Friday morning. I

:32:00. > :32:04.will attend a service at the memorial near the battlefield and it

:32:05. > :32:09.is right the country pauses to remember the sacrifices of those who

:32:10. > :32:12.lost their lives. This morning I had meetings with ministerial colleagues

:32:13. > :32:17.and I shall have further such meetings later today.

:32:18. > :32:20.Can I associate myself with the Prime Minister's remarks of

:32:21. > :32:25.condolence to those who have been affected by this dreadful attack in

:32:26. > :32:27.Istanbul. Can I offer him my personal best wishes to himself and

:32:28. > :32:32.his family for life after Downing Street. He has served his country

:32:33. > :32:36.but he has not done it alone, it is right we should acknowledge the

:32:37. > :32:41.support he has had as we all have, from our families and public

:32:42. > :32:47.service, before he goes, though, will he... Will he attend to one

:32:48. > :32:52.matter, that when he was in opposition he described as doing

:32:53. > :32:56.enormous moral damage to the moral authority of our country and that is

:32:57. > :33:01.the involvement of our security services in rendition. Now that the

:33:02. > :33:09.CPS have decided they are not going to prosecute Sir Mark Allen for what

:33:10. > :33:12.he did, will he reinstitute, reconstitute the Gibson inquiry to,

:33:13. > :33:17.so we can know what was done in our name and on whose authority. Can I

:33:18. > :33:22.thank the right honourable gentleman for his generous remarks, and and I

:33:23. > :33:27.am proud to have served this country and for the first Prime Minister to

:33:28. > :33:32.get to Shetland and Orkney to look into his constituency. He raises an

:33:33. > :33:35.important point about the Libya rendition issue, the Government

:33:36. > :33:40.co-operated fully with the police investigation into these case, the

:33:41. > :33:43.CPS set out their position concludes there was insufficient evidence to

:33:44. > :33:47.prosecute. I would say and I can say it now, I think there are few

:33:48. > :33:50.countries in the world that would have an such and independent an

:33:51. > :33:56.thorough investigation into an issue like this, I think the right

:33:57. > :34:00.approach, as Sir Peter Gibson finished the report is the ISC has

:34:01. > :34:04.agreed to look at the issues raised in the report and I think they

:34:05. > :34:11.should continue to do so. Thank you Mr Speaker.

:34:12. > :34:14.As my right honourable friend has said and put current events in

:34:15. > :34:18.perspective, at 7.30 this Friday we will start the process of

:34:19. > :34:24.commemorating the 100th anniversary of the Battle of the Somme. Will he

:34:25. > :34:27.join me in thanking those involved in organising the forget never

:34:28. > :34:31.project who have done so much to ensure young people will learn the

:34:32. > :34:36.lessons of the past and forgetting our current challenges will he join

:34:37. > :34:40.me in encouraging everyone to remember, Sam Lieutenant and

:34:41. > :34:46.commemorate those who made the ultimate sacrifice. I join him in

:34:47. > :34:49.commending all those organise nighing these events particularly

:34:50. > :34:53.that in his constituency. I think it is important not only because this

:34:54. > :34:57.appalling slaughter, 57,000 people killed or wounded on the first day

:34:58. > :35:00.of this battle, but also because so many people are learning so much

:35:01. > :35:04.about their own families involvement, and I would say in many

:35:05. > :35:08.ways there is a link between the current events with are discussing

:35:09. > :35:12.and what happened 100 years ago, is the importance of keeping peace and

:35:13. > :35:16.stability on our continent. It was noticeable at last night's European

:35:17. > :35:18.Union dinner that the French President mentioned the Somme

:35:19. > :35:22.commemorations and how proud he was we would be standing together and

:35:23. > :35:31.remembering the sacrifices all those years ago. . Thank you Mr Speaker. I

:35:32. > :35:36.would like to echo the words of the Prime Minister concerning the 36 who

:35:37. > :35:39.died and the 100 injured in the vile terrorist attack in Turkey, I am

:35:40. > :35:42.sure our consular services will be doing everything they can to assist

:35:43. > :35:46.those that have been affected. I would like to thank him for

:35:47. > :35:52.referring to the memorial for the some on Friday and I look forward to

:35:53. > :35:55.being with him there at the memorial service of those who died in that

:35:56. > :35:59.battle. I think it would be appropriate if we paid tribute to

:36:00. > :36:03.Lord Patrick Mayhew who died last weekend. As Northern Ireland

:36:04. > :36:06.Secretary, he was the driving force behind the Downing Street

:36:07. > :36:11.declaration in 19th 3, that dead lead to the first ceasefire, and I

:36:12. > :36:17.think the relative peace we have now is in part thanks to him and of

:36:18. > :36:22.course his successor Mo Mowlam lamb for all she achieved. What people

:36:23. > :36:26.are worried about is the extra insecurity to their living

:36:27. > :36:29.standards, jobs, wages and pensions following the referendum. In recent

:36:30. > :36:33.days we have heard words about the future of some of the major

:36:34. > :36:41.companies in Britain like see mans which has been here for a long time.

:36:42. > :36:45.What meetings has the Chancellor had with major companies to stabilise

:36:46. > :36:50.the situation? First of all, he is right to mention Patrick Mayhew, he

:36:51. > :36:57.did play a huge role in the delivery of the peace process, he was also a

:36:58. > :37:00.brilliant touring and someone who exuded a belief in public service

:37:01. > :37:06.and the national interest and was a kind and goodly man, and I was very

:37:07. > :37:09.sad to hear of his pass, I sent a message to him via his wife shortly

:37:10. > :37:12.before he died, and I know there are many people this this House who want

:37:13. > :37:17.to send their good wishes to his family. The Leader of the Opposition

:37:18. > :37:20.asks what conversations we are having with business and what

:37:21. > :37:23.preparations with are making to deal with the economic challenges we

:37:24. > :37:27.make, we are in a strong position to meet his challenges, because we have

:37:28. > :37:31.paid down so much of our deficit. We have had strong growth and job

:37:32. > :37:35.creation but I don't belittle the consequences will be difficult.

:37:36. > :37:39.There are going to be some very choppy waters ahead, I don't resile

:37:40. > :37:42.from any of the warnings I made during the campaign, but we have to

:37:43. > :37:45.pined the best way through this, one of the things we must do is talk

:37:46. > :37:49.with businesses and reassure them about the stability there is today

:37:50. > :37:52.and the strength of the British economy, the Business Secretary has

:37:53. > :37:56.met with a range of businesses already. Tomorrow I have the meeting

:37:57. > :38:01.of my business advisory group and I am inviting other companies to that,

:38:02. > :38:04.including see mans who play a huge role in the British economy, what we

:38:05. > :38:07.need to talk about the the reassurances about stability we can

:38:08. > :38:11.give now, the fact our circumstances don't change until we leave the

:38:12. > :38:18.European Union, and then, I want to hear from them, as we draw up the

:38:19. > :38:23.possible blueprinters for Britain's future about what they think would

:38:24. > :38:27.be the right answer. Thank you Mr Speaker, the credit rating agencies

:38:28. > :38:31.have cut the UK credit rating to AA from AA plus, the Chancellor pledged

:38:32. > :38:35.to keep a triple-A rating. What estimate has the Government made of

:38:36. > :38:42.the cost to the Exchequer of this downgrade, in terms of borrowing

:38:43. > :38:45.costs, and, of the risks to pension fund Well, the Leader of the

:38:46. > :38:50.Opposition is right that the credit ratings by one agency has been taken

:38:51. > :38:55.down by several points and another has put it on watch, the answer to

:38:56. > :38:58.his question is the cost to the Exchequer and the taxpayer will

:38:59. > :39:02.depend on what happened to the interest rates in the market at

:39:03. > :39:11.which Britain can borrow, and he is right to draw attention to that,

:39:12. > :39:15.look, as I said, head of the ECB confirmed this, all of the warnings

:39:16. > :39:21.was if we voted to leave the EU, there would be difficulties in terms

:39:22. > :39:25.of our own economy, and growth rates, and instability in markets,

:39:26. > :39:28.we are seeing those thing, we are well prepared in term of the

:39:29. > :39:33.reaction the Bank of England and the Treasury but there is no doubt in my

:39:34. > :39:36.mind, these are going to be difficult economic times we must

:39:37. > :39:40.make sure we maintain our strong economy so we can cope this them. We

:39:41. > :39:43.shouldn't belittle the channels, they will be difficult and we will

:39:44. > :39:47.have to meet them. Thank you Mr Speaker. Everyone across the House

:39:48. > :39:51.should be concerned that the indications from business and

:39:52. > :39:55.investors are the UK is less attractive, thus putting current and

:39:56. > :39:59.future jobs at risk, in the circumstances will the Prime

:40:00. > :40:03.Minister consider suspending the Chancellor's fiscal rule which is in

:40:04. > :40:09.effect preventing investment from taking place? I don't believe that

:40:10. > :40:14.would be the right approach. I think, look, what business needs to

:40:15. > :40:16.hear, what consumers and investors and people concerned about our

:40:17. > :40:21.economy want to hear, is that we have taken huge steps over the last

:40:22. > :40:25.six years to get the deficit down, to make the British economy more

:40:26. > :40:29.attractive, to make it an attractive destination for investment. They

:40:30. > :40:33.want it to continue. Of course if we see economic difficulty, one of the

:40:34. > :40:37.ways we have to react to that is to make sure that our public finances,

:40:38. > :40:40.and our economy remain strong. We shouldn't have taken all the steps

:40:41. > :40:44.of the last six years to get the deficit down, in order to see us get

:40:45. > :40:48.on to a more difficult path. I don't think it would be right to suspend

:40:49. > :40:52.fiscal rule, as I say, there are three phases to this, the first is

:40:53. > :40:56.the volatility we see, which the Bank of England and the Treasury

:40:57. > :40:59.must cope with, the second is the uncertainty about Britain's future

:41:00. > :41:04.status, which we need to bring to an end as fast as possible but

:41:05. > :41:07.examining the alternative models and my successors choosing which one we

:41:08. > :41:11.should go for, then we need to bear in mind the long-term damage to the

:41:12. > :41:14.British economy, is based on how good our trading relationship will

:41:15. > :41:18.be with the European Union. Now for my part I think we want the closest

:41:19. > :41:21.possibly relationship in terms of trading with the European Union, and

:41:22. > :41:26.that is something that can be discussed and debated in this House,

:41:27. > :41:31.as well as by the next Government. Thank you Mr Speaker, this week

:41:32. > :41:33.sadly there has been more evidence that racist incidents are

:41:34. > :41:39.increasing, evidence collated by monitoring groups shows in the last

:41:40. > :41:43.threeer four days attacks an abuse from Stoke to Stockton, Dorset to

:41:44. > :41:46.the Clyde. Can I ask the Prime Minister what monitoring systems he

:41:47. > :41:51.and the Home Secretary have put in place, what reports he has received

:41:52. > :41:55.from the police, and what extra resources are going to communities

:41:56. > :42:00.that have been targeted in these vile racist attacks that are taking

:42:01. > :42:03.place? Let me agree with him. These attacks are appallling and they need

:42:04. > :42:07.to stop. It is right that everyone in this house and everyone on all

:42:08. > :42:12.sides of the referendum debate utterly condemns this them, that is

:42:13. > :42:15.not what we do in Britain, let me say I reassured Prime Minister's

:42:16. > :42:17.countries such of Romania and the Czech Republic who are concerned

:42:18. > :42:22.about this at the meeting we had last night. So we do monitor these

:42:23. > :42:25.attacks and the Home Secretary gets regular report, we will be

:42:26. > :42:29.publishing a new action plan on tackling hate crime shortly to step

:42:30. > :42:35.up our response, we want new steps to boost reporting of hate crime and

:42:36. > :42:39.supporting victims, new CPS guidance to prosecutors on racially

:42:40. > :42:42.aggravated crime, a new fund for protective security measures at

:42:43. > :42:45.potentially vulnerable institution and additional funding to community

:42:46. > :42:50.organisation so they can tackle hate crime. Whatever we can do we will do

:42:51. > :42:55.to drive these appalling hate crimes out of our country. I thank the

:42:56. > :42:59.Prime Minister for that answer. Last Thursday, was a rejection of the

:43:00. > :43:04.status quo, that clearly isn't delivering. There are now 13 point 5

:43:05. > :43:11.million people living in poverty in Britain. Up 300,000 in the last

:43:12. > :43:14.year, 4.5 million people in England and Wales are in insecure work and

:43:15. > :43:19.two thirds of children in poverty are living in households, where at

:43:20. > :43:24.least one adult is in work. The Prime Minister has two months left.

:43:25. > :43:30.Will he leave a one nation legacy, and will that one nation legacy and

:43:31. > :43:35.will that one nation legacy be the scrapping of the bedroom tax, the

:43:36. > :43:40.banning of zero hours contracts and cancelling of the cuts to Universal

:43:41. > :43:44.Credit? Where I would are-with the right honourable gentleman is of

:43:45. > :43:48.course we need to do more to tackle poverty, we need to do more to

:43:49. > :43:54.spread wealth and opportunity, but to pretend that last Thursday's vote

:43:55. > :43:57.was a result of the state of the British economy is complete

:43:58. > :44:04.nonsense, the British economy stronger than it was six years ago,

:44:05. > :44:06.we all have to reflect on our role in the referendum campaign, I know

:44:07. > :44:10.the honourable gentleman says he put his back in to it. It. All I would

:44:11. > :44:20.say I would hate to see him when he is not trying.

:44:21. > :44:25.Mr Speaker, Government figures released yesterday show the number

:44:26. > :44:31.of children living in poverty has jumped by 200,000 in a year. To a

:44:32. > :44:34.total now, a disgraceful total of 3.9 million children in this

:44:35. > :44:39.country, living in poverty. Does he not think he should at the very

:44:40. > :44:43.least apologise to them, and the parents that have been failed by his

:44:44. > :44:48.Government, and do something about it, so that we do reduce the levels

:44:49. > :44:55.of child poverty, in this country? If he wants to deal with the figures

:44:56. > :44:58.let me give them to him. Income and inequality has gone down, average

:44:59. > :45:04.incomes have grown at the fastest rate since 2001. He asks about

:45:05. > :45:09.poverty, there are 300,000 fewer people in relative poverty since

:45:10. > :45:13.2010. 500,000 fewer people in absolute poverty since 2010. If he

:45:14. > :45:17.is looking for excuses about why the side he and I were on about the

:45:18. > :45:21.referendum frankly he should look somewhere else. I have to say to the

:45:22. > :45:25.honourable gentleman, he talks about job insecurity and my two months to

:45:26. > :45:28.go, it might be in my party ice interest for him to sit there, it is

:45:29. > :45:42.not in the national interest and I would say for heavens sake, man, go.

:45:43. > :46:09.Quinn. My constituents have been struggling over who gets to press a

:46:10. > :46:14.button. Will my right honourable friends condemn this in the strong

:46:15. > :46:17.possible terms? My honourable friend is right. Outcome sport

:46:18. > :46:23.infrastructure is a crucial part of our economy. I condemn any

:46:24. > :46:27.industrial action that disrupts the travelling public, and they will not

:46:28. > :46:30.thank the RMT for their recent disruption. The performance of

:46:31. > :46:38.Southern has been unacceptable and passengers deserve better. The

:46:39. > :46:45.Transport Secretary will be announcing further details of

:46:46. > :46:49.compensation soon. Angus Robertson. On the terrorist tragedy in Turkey,

:46:50. > :46:54.we in these benches join with the Prime Minister and the leader of the

:46:55. > :46:57.official opposition in our condemnation and condolences to the

:46:58. > :47:02.people of Turkey. Mr Speaker, a strong majority voted for Scotland

:47:03. > :47:05.to remain in the European Union. First Minister Nicola Sturgeon is in

:47:06. > :47:11.Brussels today, where she is meeting with the President of the European

:47:12. > :47:14.Commission, the president of the European Parliament. Yesterday,

:47:15. > :47:19.there was a standing ovation in the European Parliament when the case

:47:20. > :47:23.was made to protect Scotland's place in Europe. What will the UK

:47:24. > :47:29.Government do to protect Scotland's place in Europe? Firstly, let me

:47:30. > :47:31.thank the right honourable gentleman for what he says about the terrorist

:47:32. > :47:37.attacks and how we should stand against them. On the issue of the

:47:38. > :47:42.UK's future and our relationship with the European Union, we need to

:47:43. > :47:45.negotiate the best possible deal for the United Kingdom and the closest

:47:46. > :47:50.possible relationship. That will also be the best possible deal for

:47:51. > :47:57.Scotland. That is what needs to be done. On the contrary, the Prime

:47:58. > :48:02.Minister is wrong on that issue. Yesterday, the Scottish Parliament

:48:03. > :48:06.passed a motion across the Parliament including the Labour

:48:07. > :48:09.Party, the Scottish Liberal Democrats and the Greens, were all

:48:10. > :48:15.mandated the Scottish Government to have discussions with the UK

:48:16. > :48:18.Government, other devolved administrations, the EU institutions

:48:19. > :48:22.and member states to explore options for protecting Scotland's

:48:23. > :48:25.relationship with the EU, Scotland's place in the single market and the

:48:26. > :48:30.social implement and economic benefits that come from that. Every

:48:31. > :48:36.party in the Scottish parliament voted for that, except the

:48:37. > :48:40.Conservative Party, who abstained. When will the Conservatives finally

:48:41. > :48:47.join all other parties in Scotland in protecting Scotland's place in

:48:48. > :48:51.Europe? The best way to secure Scotland's place in the single

:48:52. > :48:55.market is for the United Kingdom to negotiate the closest possible

:48:56. > :48:58.relationship with the European Union, including in my view, the

:48:59. > :49:02.closest relationship with the single market. Our membership with the

:49:03. > :49:09.European Union is a UK membership and that is where we should take our

:49:10. > :49:15.negotiating stance. Market traders in Rossendale make a huge

:49:16. > :49:20.contribution to our local economy. With that in mind, would my right

:49:21. > :49:26.honourable friend call with me and literally thousands of others to

:49:27. > :49:32.stop Blackburn Council going ahead with its plan to bulldoze Darwin's

:49:33. > :49:35.three-day market? I join him in paying tribute to all the

:49:36. > :49:38.hard-working market traders across the country, who provide us with

:49:39. > :49:43.excellent goods, often locally produced and sourced. I know how

:49:44. > :49:47.important these markets are. I hope the local council will listen to my

:49:48. > :49:54.honourable friend's campaign and make sure this historic market is

:49:55. > :49:58.not lost. The Prime Minister will recall visiting the Vauxhall car

:49:59. > :50:01.plant in my constituency as part of the referendum campaign. Now we have

:50:02. > :50:06.voted to leave the EU, we face a fight to keep those jobs in this

:50:07. > :50:08.country, so I will be urging General Motors to recognise their

:50:09. > :50:12.responsibility to build vehicles where many are bought. Can the Prime

:50:13. > :50:17.Minister ensure there are early talks with the voter industry and

:50:18. > :50:21.that they are given the reassurance needed that motor vehicles will

:50:22. > :50:25.still be able to export it to the EU at a competitive price? The

:50:26. > :50:28.honourable gentleman is right. The story of the automotive industry in

:50:29. > :50:33.Britain over the last decade has been a positive one. There are

:50:34. > :50:37.150,000 people directly employed. There are another 300,000 people in

:50:38. > :50:42.the supply and components industry, more of which has been coming

:50:43. > :50:46.onshore in recent years. We need to secure the best possible deal for

:50:47. > :50:51.Britain to make sure we have full access to the single market, because

:50:52. > :50:54.many companies, General Motors, Toyota and Nissan included, one of

:50:55. > :50:59.the reasons they invested in Britain was because of access to that

:51:00. > :51:04.market. I would urge General Motors and others to make their voices

:51:05. > :51:07.heard, and we will listen. Yesterday, a former member of my

:51:08. > :51:10.staff was verbally abused and attacked while out shopping in

:51:11. > :51:14.London because of the colour of his skin. He is of Pakistani origin. He

:51:15. > :51:20.was chased down the road by a lady shouting that they have voted out

:51:21. > :51:25.and that people like him should others and blow up people. Can I ask

:51:26. > :51:28.the Prime Minister to reiterate the commitment he has given this morning

:51:29. > :51:31.to do everything in his power to eradicate this evil hatred and

:51:32. > :51:38.reiterate that leaving the EU should not be used to breed racism but the

:51:39. > :51:40.opposite, and provide us with an opportunity to be much more

:51:41. > :51:47.international rather than just European? In this country we have

:51:48. > :51:53.many imperfections, but we are one of the most successful multi-faith,

:51:54. > :51:56.multiethnic democracy is on Earth, and we should do everything to

:51:57. > :51:59.safeguard that. That means the clearest possible statements from

:52:00. > :52:04.all our political leaders, which you have heard today. More to the point,

:52:05. > :52:07.we want action by the police and prosecuting authorities. The laws

:52:08. > :52:12.are therefore these people to be prosecuted. They should be used. We

:52:13. > :52:16.are going to strengthen the guidance and we should not put up with this

:52:17. > :52:21.in our country. Alex Salmond. Turning now to the Chilcot report,

:52:22. > :52:27.is the Prime Minister satisfied with the arrangements announced for prior

:52:28. > :52:30.access for service families of soldiers who died in Iraq? Given

:52:31. > :52:36.that Mr Blair has had months to prepare his PR defences, given that

:52:37. > :52:40.he has seen the relevant passages? And what are the parliamentary

:52:41. > :52:44.arrangements for secure prior access so that this House can properly

:52:45. > :52:54.examine the findings and express any relevant views concerning the future

:52:55. > :53:02.suitable accommodation for Mr Blair? First of all, in terms of members

:53:03. > :53:05.with service personnel families, we have made sure they will not face

:53:06. > :53:09.the cost that they originally were in terms of accessing the report. I

:53:10. > :53:14.will check the details for the time they get to access the report and

:53:15. > :53:17.perhaps write to him. The parliamentary process, I can again

:53:18. > :53:21.put in a letter to him so that we are clear about what time the

:53:22. > :53:27.statement will be, how much time people will have to study the report

:53:28. > :53:30.in advance, and other right honourable gentleman. I remember how

:53:31. > :53:35.important this was when I was Leader of the Opposition, having access. As

:53:36. > :53:41.for those who could be criticised in the report, he will know that there

:53:42. > :53:45.is a process where matters have to go out so that people have a chance

:53:46. > :53:50.to respond to what is in the report. That is entirely independent of the

:53:51. > :53:55.government. That has been dealt with by the Chilcot report under

:53:56. > :53:59.long-standing conventions, but I shall put that in my letter to the

:54:00. > :54:04.the ayes to the right. Sir Alan Duncan. Moving to watch for matters,

:54:05. > :54:08.would my right honourable friend educate the house from his

:54:09. > :54:17.experience as Prime Minister on how, in terms of the country's reputation

:54:18. > :54:19.and success, he would compare the undemonstrative competence and

:54:20. > :54:34.dignity of Angela Merkel with the theatrical and, colliding ticks off

:54:35. > :54:36.Silvio Borisconi? -- the theatrical antics of Silvio Borisconi?

:54:37. > :54:40.Neureuther of the people he is talking about our candidates in this

:54:41. > :54:43.election, and election I will stay out of -- neither of those he is

:54:44. > :54:49.talking about our candidates in this election. One piece of advice I was

:54:50. > :54:54.given was not to go to a party with Silvio Berlusconi, and that is

:54:55. > :55:02.advice I have taken. I thank the Prime Minister for giving us last

:55:03. > :55:07.week's exercise in democracy. BOOING.

:55:08. > :55:15.Order. The honourable gentleman will be heard. It is about us and this

:55:16. > :55:22.place that he will be heard. Mr Douglas Carswell. I thank the Prime

:55:23. > :55:24.Minister for giving us last week's exercise in democracy. We on the

:55:25. > :55:30.Leave side recognise that although we won, it was a narrow mandate with

:55:31. > :55:33.decent, patriotic people voting for Remain. Does the Prime Minister

:55:34. > :55:40.agree with me that both sides now need to come together to achieve a

:55:41. > :55:43.new, post-EU national consensus, whereby we have close links with our

:55:44. > :55:50.friends and allies in Europe and beyond, while reclaiming our

:55:51. > :55:54.sovereignty? First of all, I thank the honourable gentleman for making

:55:55. > :55:57.the point that there were people with a deep sense of Patrick is on

:55:58. > :56:02.both sides of the argument. I also agree that it is time for people in

:56:03. > :56:07.our country to come together -- a deep sense of patriotism. He is also

:56:08. > :56:11.right that we now have to work on what the alternatives are. These

:56:12. > :56:15.were debated in the referendum campaign, but they were hypothetical

:56:16. > :56:20.alternatives. They are now real alternatives. One of the roles the

:56:21. > :56:23.government can play in the next few months is to set out these different

:56:24. > :56:25.blueprints, the Canada blueprint, the Swiss blueprint and the Norway

:56:26. > :56:30.blueprint and any other blueprints, and looked at the costs and benefits

:56:31. > :56:33.so people can make a reasoned assessment now that this is a real

:56:34. > :56:44.choice rather than a hypothetical one. I know all of them to's members

:56:45. > :56:47.of Parliament would wish to be associated with the tribute paid by

:56:48. > :56:51.my right honourable friend to Paddy Mayhew. He was a scholar and

:56:52. > :56:58.gentleman and he was a great friend to his younger colleagues. Mr

:56:59. > :57:02.Speaker, there are thousands of expat United Kingdom citizens living

:57:03. > :57:07.around Europe who did not vote in the referendum. Many of them are

:57:08. > :57:10.elderly and frail. They live on UK pensions and UK benefits. Will my

:57:11. > :57:17.right honourable friend seek to insure that his successor defends

:57:18. > :57:22.their interests? Thirsty, let me add to what he said on Sir Patrick

:57:23. > :57:25.Mayhew, who was a wonderful man and a great public servant. I know he

:57:26. > :57:32.meant a lot to me honourable friend and many others. On this issue of

:57:33. > :57:36.British citizens living overseas, we should reassure people that until

:57:37. > :57:39.Britain leaves the EU, there is absolutely no change in their

:57:40. > :57:43.status. One of the things that this unit at the heart of Whitehall can

:57:44. > :57:47.do in the coming weeks is to go through these issues methodically

:57:48. > :57:50.and work out what might need to change in all the different

:57:51. > :57:59.scenarios to give these people certainty about their futures. Mr

:58:00. > :58:16.Speaker, London is the greatest city in Europe and in the world. Order! I

:58:17. > :58:23.have enjoyed listening to the honourable gentleman for 25 years

:58:24. > :58:30.and I want to continue to hear him. Its prosperity and tax revenue are

:58:31. > :58:38.vital for the whole United Kingdom. London voted Remain. Does the Prime

:58:39. > :58:47.Minister agree with the Mayor of London that a Labour winner, Sadiq

:58:48. > :58:52.Khan, that London now need to remain in the European single market and

:58:53. > :59:00.needs devolved additional powers to deal with the problems caused by the

:59:01. > :59:04.vote last week? I certainly agree with the Merit London not only that

:59:05. > :59:06.London is the greatest city on earth, but London needs to make its

:59:07. > :59:14.voice heard in these Butel negotiations. Obviously, there are

:59:15. > :59:19.many vital industries for London, but financial services, it is the

:59:20. > :59:23.capital not only of the UK's financial services, but Europe's

:59:24. > :59:26.financial services, and securing the best possible access to the single

:59:27. > :59:30.market is going to be an important challenge in these negotiations. So

:59:31. > :59:35.London should have its voice heard. This is a UK negotiation, and we

:59:36. > :59:42.should listen to the nations of the Benatia kingdom, but the cities and

:59:43. > :59:46.regions as well. -- of the United Kingdom. I pay tribute to my right

:59:47. > :59:51.honourable friend, his premiership and the many achievements of his

:59:52. > :59:59.government. Of which we can be proud. May I also commend his

:00:00. > :00:04.condemnation of the racist attacks that have been reported from all

:00:05. > :00:07.over the country, and would he take this opportunity also to condemn the

:00:08. > :00:14.ridiculous and revolting behaviour of a certain MEP in the European

:00:15. > :00:23.Parliament yesterday, and make clear that he does not represent this

:00:24. > :00:27.country and he does not represent... Order. I will not have people adding

:00:28. > :00:33.their own take on these matters. The honourable gentleman has the floor

:00:34. > :00:38.and does not need help from the Scottish National Party benches. The

:00:39. > :00:44.honourable gentleman will be heard, and that's all there is to it. He

:00:45. > :00:49.does not represent this country, and he does not even represent the vast

:00:50. > :00:54.majority of patriotic and law-abiding people who voted Leave

:00:55. > :00:58.in the referendum. I thank my honourable friend for his kind

:00:59. > :01:03.remarks and congratulate him for the role he played in the campaign. As

:01:04. > :01:07.for what MEPs and others have said, people should judge them by the

:01:08. > :01:12.remarks they make. I have made clear what I have felt about Nigel Farage

:01:13. > :01:16.and that appalling poster in the campaign. I think the motive was

:01:17. > :01:23.absolutely clear and everyone can see what he was trying to do. My

:01:24. > :01:27.constituency has received substantial amounts of EU funding.

:01:28. > :01:32.The Leave campaign in the referendum promised that funding would continue

:01:33. > :01:36.even if we left the European Union. Does the Prime Minister agree that

:01:37. > :01:39.if my constituency loses a penny piece of its funding under his

:01:40. > :01:46.successor, that will be a gross betrayal? It is the case that Wales

:01:47. > :01:53.as a whole is a net beneficiary of EU funds. And as I said throughout

:01:54. > :01:57.the campaign, if the vote was a Novo to, I would want to do everything I

:01:58. > :02:02.could to make sure we continued to help disadvantaged regions and our

:02:03. > :02:05.farmers. Obviously, it is difficult for anyone to give guarantees,

:02:06. > :02:11.because you don't know what will happen to our economy in the event

:02:12. > :02:15.of a Leave vote, and our economy does face challenges. But it will be

:02:16. > :02:24.a matter for my successor as we leave the EU to make good on what

:02:25. > :02:29.they said at the time. I am pleased to announce that residents across

:02:30. > :02:33.error wash have chosen the rocking horse nursery entry as the winning

:02:34. > :02:38.card for my design a birthday card for the Queen competition. Will the

:02:39. > :02:39.Prime Minister congratulate the 207 children who entered the

:02:40. > :02:46.competition? Order! I want to hear about these

:02:47. > :02:53.pupils, who should be congratulated. Let's hear the honourable lady. Will

:02:54. > :02:56.the Prime Minister congratulate the 207 children who entered the

:02:57. > :03:00.competition with their amazing designs, and would he agree to

:03:01. > :03:07.present the card to Her Majesty at his next audience? There are many

:03:08. > :03:11.ways in which members of Parliament or able to interact on a more human

:03:12. > :03:16.level with our constituents, and getting them to do birthday cards is

:03:17. > :03:19.an excellent idea. Having Brize Norton in my constituency, someone

:03:20. > :03:23.once did a Christmas card with Santa letting presents out of the back of

:03:24. > :03:29.a sea 17, which I thought was excellent but some felt it was

:03:30. > :03:32.carpet bombing rather than handing out la Jess! I think it is a good

:03:33. > :03:37.idea with a proviso and I am sure Her Majesty will be delighted to

:03:38. > :03:42.receive them. Sheffield city region was set to receive ?180 million in

:03:43. > :03:53.European structural funds through to 2020. That money is now at risk.

:03:54. > :04:01.Those leading the Leave campaign did give guarantees that no area would

:04:02. > :04:05.lose out as a result of Brexit. Now, we know those promises were

:04:06. > :04:11.worthless, but will the Prime Minister join with me in urging his

:04:12. > :04:15.access to ensure that Sheffield city region is compensated by the UK

:04:16. > :04:21.Government for every pound of funding lost as a result of last

:04:22. > :04:28.Thursday's decision? As we negotiate our way out of the EU, a range of

:04:29. > :04:32.decisions will have to be made. Future governments must make sure we

:04:33. > :04:35.help our universities and sciences and disadvantaged parts of the

:04:36. > :04:39.country and we continue to support farmers. There will be a challenge,

:04:40. > :04:42.but we will be able to judge for ourselves about whether we have more

:04:43. > :04:46.money to do this because we have left the EU, or less because of the

:04:47. > :04:53.impact on the economy. That is something we will judge for

:04:54. > :04:56.ourselves in the years ahead. Unfortunately earlier this morning,

:04:57. > :05:01.the Supreme Court ruled against a right to return of the Chagos

:05:02. > :05:06.Islands to their homeland. I know that my right honourable friend will

:05:07. > :05:11.be pleased that I will not pester him much more on this issue, but I

:05:12. > :05:14.suggest that a fine legacy of his premiership might be to allow these

:05:15. > :05:22.British citizens to return to their homeland. The national Security

:05:23. > :05:26.Council has been considering this issue. We have looked at the

:05:27. > :05:30.alternative options, the costs and benefits of the various things we

:05:31. > :05:36.could do. And we will make an announcement in the coming months.

:05:37. > :05:40.Grade one listed Rochdale town hall has been described as a rare,

:05:41. > :05:43.picturesque beauty. A bid to renovate this iconic building was

:05:44. > :05:49.rejected by the Heritage Lottery Fund in April. Of the five projects

:05:50. > :05:54.awarded grants, all five are based in the south of England. Would the

:05:55. > :06:00.Prime Minister consider supporting the renovation of this fantastic

:06:01. > :06:05.municipal building? It is a beautiful building and it is a

:06:06. > :06:08.historic town that he represents. In terms of the Heritage Lottery Fund,

:06:09. > :06:13.here's a little unfair in focusing on those last five projects. More

:06:14. > :06:17.broadly, he would find at the Blackpool museum received a grant of

:06:18. > :06:21.over 13 million. So I believe it is fairly balanced across the country,

:06:22. > :06:31.but I will look further and perhaps write to him about the general point

:06:32. > :06:35.and issue of his town hall. As well as Brits living abroad in the EU,

:06:36. > :06:39.there are a number of EU nationals living in this country and my

:06:40. > :06:43.constituency were working hard and paying taxes entirely legitimately.

:06:44. > :06:47.What reassurance can the Prime Minister give them that their

:06:48. > :06:52.position is secure? A number are very concerned. First of all, we

:06:53. > :06:58.must praise the contribution they make to our country. There are

:06:59. > :07:02.50,000 EU nationals working in our NHS, 60,000 working in our care

:07:03. > :07:10.sector, looking after our overly. Many work in education -- looking

:07:11. > :07:15.after our elderly. As I said on Monday, we can obviously say that

:07:16. > :07:19.all rights are guaranteed of members of the European Union. In the

:07:20. > :07:25.future, I have heard members of the Leave campaign make this point that

:07:26. > :07:28.people who are already here, already studying and working, must have

:07:29. > :07:33.their rights and their access guaranteed. But we can't say that

:07:34. > :07:39.now, we have to say it is part of the negotiations that will shortly

:07:40. > :07:44.take place. Can I join with the tributes to you, Prime Minister, for

:07:45. > :07:47.all you have done in your time of office? Does the Prime Minister

:07:48. > :07:52.agree that whatever the disagreements about the European

:07:53. > :07:55.Union, you were in the Remain come, I and my party were in the Leave

:07:56. > :08:00.campaign, but the union that matters is that of the United Kingdom and

:08:01. > :08:04.Northern Ireland, and that should be of the utmost importance. What is

:08:05. > :08:11.being done to make sure we stay together in your remaining time in

:08:12. > :08:16.office? I agree with the honourable gentleman that keeping the UK

:08:17. > :08:20.together is the paramount interest for our country because of the

:08:21. > :08:25.decision that has been made about Europe. We need to have exhaustive

:08:26. > :08:28.conversations between officials in Whitehall and Northern Ireland, and

:08:29. > :08:32.strong relations with the Republic of violence that we keep the

:08:33. > :08:35.benefits of the Common travel area. The honourable gentleman has always

:08:36. > :08:43.supported one blue team, Leicester City, and one day I hope he supports

:08:44. > :08:48.another blue team. As members of the single market for over four decades,

:08:49. > :08:54.many businesses have deeply embedded supply chains and customer

:08:55. > :08:57.relationships across the EU. Does the Prime Minister agree that any

:08:58. > :09:05.future deal with the EU but include access to the single market? My

:09:06. > :09:08.honourable friend is right. Obviously, the term access to the

:09:09. > :09:13.single market has many potential different meanings. Many countries

:09:14. > :09:18.outside the EU have access to the single market, from Sue -- some

:09:19. > :09:22.through a trade deal, some through World Trade Organisation rules. The

:09:23. > :09:26.best access is to be a member of the single market, and the next Prime

:09:27. > :09:30.Minister will have to decide what sort of access we want, what the

:09:31. > :09:34.costs and benefits are of having that sort of access, and I am sure

:09:35. > :09:38.we will talk about that in a moment when I give my statement on the

:09:39. > :09:44.European Council. The Prime Minister will be aware that staff in my

:09:45. > :09:52.unions are being consulted this week. The company has approached the

:09:53. > :09:56.government for support, but has only received a guarantee to the value of

:09:57. > :10:01.one of its trucks. Will he commit to meet with me to discuss this

:10:02. > :10:05.perilous decision for the company and its workforce and what support

:10:06. > :10:09.his government can provide? I am aware of the recent announcement

:10:10. > :10:13.about these further job losses. This will be a difficult time for the

:10:14. > :10:16.workers and their families. I understand that the Scottish and UK

:10:17. > :10:20.Government have been working with the company over the past couple of

:10:21. > :10:22.years as part of the partnership action for continuing employment

:10:23. > :10:26.scheme. The Secretary of State for Scotland is also keeping an eye on

:10:27. > :10:28.the situation and I am happy to arrange a meeting between him and

:10:29. > :10:34.the honourable gentleman to talk about what more can be done.

:10:35. > :10:37.Sit there, it is not in the national interest and I would say for heavens

:10:38. > :10:42.sake, man, go. I said it was going to be unique. It

:10:43. > :10:50.was uniquely quiet to be begin with. People said they don't like the

:10:51. > :10:58.Punch and Judy. At the end things bucked up a bit.

:10:59. > :11:03.MCorbyn went on the threat to living standards, as, he moved on the cred

:11:04. > :11:09.it rating agency, not a subject you often here Mr Corbyn talk about, he

:11:10. > :11:15.then moved on to ask if the fiscal rules should be suspended. Would he

:11:16. > :11:20.suspend it? Mr Corbyn wanted it to suspend it. He went on the racist

:11:21. > :11:26.incident and went on to an increase in poverty in the country in recent

:11:27. > :11:31.months. It came alive at that bit, and culminated in the Prime Minister

:11:32. > :11:34.saying to M Corbyn, it is not in the Conservative interest that he goes

:11:35. > :11:38.but it is in the country's interest and he e Prime Minister saying to Mr

:11:39. > :11:40.Corbyn, it is not in the Conservative interest that he goes

:11:41. > :11:43.but it is in the country's interest and he shouted at Mr Corbyn "For

:11:44. > :11:45.everyone's sake man, go." That no doubt is what will lead the news

:11:46. > :11:48.tonight. We also had the Tory party

:11:49. > :11:53.leadership campaign beginning to take off, with Alan Duncan, clearly

:11:54. > :12:00.not supporting Boris Johnson, since he described him as M Borusconi. I

:12:01. > :12:05.don't know who that could be referring to? I thought I would make

:12:06. > :12:11.a bad joke. I'm not sure what we make of that at all, for the most

:12:12. > :12:20.part the Labour benches heard MCorbyn in absolute silence.

:12:21. > :12:28.What that means ion. What the view sear? They noticed the sombre

:12:29. > :12:31.atmosphere, you could not. Mark said pretty tame Prime Minister's

:12:32. > :12:35.Questions with a lame duck Prime Minister and opposition that has no

:12:36. > :12:38.support from his party. I am looking forward to new leadership on both

:12:39. > :12:41.sides who can provide a compelling vision for the future of the

:12:42. > :12:45.country. Robert said over the past few days I have seen the vigour and

:12:46. > :12:49.passion with which MrCorbyn is fighting to keep his job. What a

:12:50. > :12:54.pity he didn't show this degree of commitment during the EU referendum.

:12:55. > :12:59.How typical of politicians. And this from Martin, watching today was

:13:00. > :13:03.pitiful. Jeremy Corbyn has no support behind him. It was unwise of

:13:04. > :13:08.him to point out how long the Prime Minister has left. Hoped up the

:13:09. > :13:11.charge against his lack of effort in the campaign and this culminated in

:13:12. > :13:18.the Prime Minister charging Corbyn to go in the national interest with

:13:19. > :13:22.his own benches nodding approval. The Labour benches nodded approval:

:13:23. > :13:28.I didn't catch that, that is what Martin said. You didn't see it. It

:13:29. > :13:33.was hard from the. A cram to see that much. Anything been happening.

:13:34. > :13:38.In terms of other people saying they are off or calling for Corbyn to go,

:13:39. > :13:43.not at that moment. What with didn't mention is that Pavt Glass appointed

:13:44. > :13:48.two days ago to be the Shadow Education Secretary has already

:13:49. > :13:52.quit. A record. Yes. A record for being in Shadow Cabinet was held bay

:13:53. > :13:57.Tory for six day, she has beat than by 50%, she was in for three days.

:13:58. > :14:02.It is a Parliamentary record. A Parliamentary record and a properly

:14:03. > :14:05.political nerd top pub quiz fact for future Westminster quizzes. Don't

:14:06. > :14:13.you speak about our viewers like that. I think in a funny way, you

:14:14. > :14:16.know, PMQs was an illustration of actually how there is given the

:14:17. > :14:20.scale of the events that are happening in the country and on the

:14:21. > :14:24.questions an our future in the world, that was an illustration of

:14:25. > :14:30.how the current, politics right now is not giving the country those

:14:31. > :14:35.answers. You know. Both party, the Prime Minister said he is off His

:14:36. > :14:39.decision, he explained why he felt he had to go. Somebody else has to

:14:40. > :14:42.continue the negotiations. But the Labour Party's authority in

:14:43. > :14:46.Westminster certainly is shot. Just at the moment, when many people

:14:47. > :14:50.round the country are looking to Westminster for some kind of

:14:51. > :14:52.leadership. That strange muted scrappy Prime Minister's Questions

:14:53. > :14:57.really was an illustration of how right now, today, maybe not in the

:14:58. > :15:03.coming weeks and month, today, politics is not providing the

:15:04. > :15:10.answers to the public, after they made an enormous decision. Or MPs in

:15:11. > :15:15.fact. Or MPs. I agree, there were lots of questions asked of the Prime

:15:16. > :15:19.Minister as to what buzz does the Brexit vote mean, there was

:15:20. > :15:23.questioning about regionally, all different things, all he could say

:15:24. > :15:26.well, it will up to the next Prime Minister and so he can't answer any

:15:27. > :15:32.of that. It is as if we are holding our breath. He couldn't say anything

:15:33. > :15:36.frankly about the 3.9 million children in poverty though he was

:15:37. > :15:39.able to tell us he could congratulate 120 children for doing

:15:40. > :15:43.good cards, that seems to be the level at which we have descended

:15:44. > :15:48.when it comes to Prime Minister's Questions because he can't answer

:15:49. > :15:56.the crucial points. One of your readers referred to him as a lame

:15:57. > :16:02.duck Prime Minister. It is a lame duck Parliament. We are going to do

:16:03. > :16:07.it in the course of the next two months and we know we are. We don't

:16:08. > :16:12.know the status of the Labour leadership. On that questioning of

:16:13. > :16:16.MP, no decisions can be made between now and the new leader. Some of the

:16:17. > :16:20.questions being put to. Cam Ron, he was the other side of this argument.

:16:21. > :16:25.It is not easy for him to turn round and say now we are here, all the

:16:26. > :16:28.scare stories I said are not true. The Prime Minister will have to

:16:29. > :16:32.answer them. He will have to answer think, in terms, and I would expect

:16:33. > :16:41.the new Prime Minister to have a very clear idea of where we are

:16:42. > :16:45.going, that is part... He is irony, after everything that has happened,

:16:46. > :16:51.in the sense Mr Cameron said this would settle the question, the Tory

:16:52. > :16:56.leadership is going to be defined by the answers the tentative leaders

:16:57. > :17:00.can give about what our relationship with the European Union should be

:17:01. > :17:04.like. In terms of winning or losing the campaign, in terms of putting

:17:05. > :17:08.this issue to bed for the Tory party, that is the question Stephen

:17:09. > :17:12.Crabb, Theresa May, Boris Johnson whoever else might go for it. Andrea

:17:13. > :17:17.Leadsom, still a bit of chat about that, possibly still Nicky Morgan

:17:18. > :17:21.possibly. After that it is seems to be the divisive issue it has been.

:17:22. > :17:26.That depends how long it will take. It depends whether or not, Article

:17:27. > :17:30.50 itself is triggered. This is a bit of conspiracy theory but there

:17:31. > :17:33.is chatter about some kind of alternative process to Article 50

:17:34. > :17:40.being put forward. Is That is Big cash is pushing that And various

:17:41. > :17:43.other people. The lawyers say... It is an argument of lawyer, not people

:17:44. > :17:48.who have looked at the whole process, what would happen if for

:17:49. > :17:52.example, you dropped one piece of the 72 bill, you broke the treaty,

:17:53. > :17:57.you triggered, you put uncertainty, I think the Article 50 is what we

:17:58. > :18:01.will take, but to come back to Andrew's point, the two things that

:18:02. > :18:06.will happen. First we have to resolve the issues, that we have

:18:07. > :18:09.been talking about for 20 years, and in that process, Parliament and

:18:10. > :18:13.particularly Conservative Party in Parliament will have to come behind

:18:14. > :18:19.what the policies are, it will put it to bed but it will take two

:18:20. > :18:25.years. I think this illustrates in spades what Brexiteers have done to

:18:26. > :18:31.the country. Let me... What do you mean Brexiteers? Let me tell you,

:18:32. > :18:35.they charged this country in, they told a myriad of different stories

:18:36. > :18:38.but they united unwill dethe line of let us take back control of the

:18:39. > :18:41.country. They have got, they are about to take back control of the

:18:42. > :18:45.country yet they have no idea what they are going to do. They have

:18:46. > :18:49.taken us into this dark place and we are now lost, and on the one hand we

:18:50. > :18:54.have the Tory party in Government with no Plan B if there was, if the

:18:55. > :18:57.referendum went the wrong way we have Brexiteers with a load of

:18:58. > :19:01.different ideas as to where it is we are going to go. We have no

:19:02. > :19:07.leadership and we are in a sorry state. None so blind as though who

:19:08. > :19:11.will not see. Lots of debates will go on, this will define the future

:19:12. > :19:16.of country for year, decades so it is proper, we are in a dedemocracy

:19:17. > :19:20.remember, it may be difficult for the Labour Party, we are in a

:19:21. > :19:26.democracy, we will make decision, a lot of journalists haven't been

:19:27. > :19:32.wanting to cover it... You have no been agreed. There are so many

:19:33. > :19:35.different lines. But also the Brexiteers said different thing,

:19:36. > :19:40.simply on the issue of immigration, now yeah you are saying different

:19:41. > :19:45.things, during the campaign you were saying different things. David

:19:46. > :19:51.Cameron's reasons for remaining were different to Jeremy Corbyns. Is

:19:52. > :19:58.there a chance that Labour could fight the 2020 election on rejoining

:19:59. > :20:02.the EU? First is there going to be 2020? Let us take these things, we

:20:03. > :20:07.are in such a state of flux at the moment. Such a state of flux. If you

:20:08. > :20:11.feel the way you do about this, let me ask again, is there a chance

:20:12. > :20:15.Labour would fight the next election on rejoining the EU? You ask

:20:16. > :20:20.hypotheticals to politicians all the time. I don't know how many times

:20:21. > :20:27.they answer them. Why don't you break my run and answer it? Let

:20:28. > :20:31.us... It is a real issue, a legitimate question. It is a very

:20:32. > :20:34.serious question and it needs a serious answer. There is a long way

:20:35. > :20:42.to go before we are in that. We have to lose through, what is going to

:20:43. > :20:46.happen... You don't rule it out. You are right to ask that question,

:20:47. > :20:51.because there is chatter among some Labour MPs about a huge opportunity

:20:52. > :20:55.for somebody to come forward as a stop Boris, stop Brexit candidate.

:20:56. > :21:01.The Labour Party has much bigger questions to sort out, but there is

:21:02. > :21:05.a potential political opportunity there, that is being discussed

:21:06. > :21:10.because a small point, this petition calling for a second referendum has

:21:11. > :21:14.given potential Labour leadership candidates a whole massive huge big

:21:15. > :21:19.list of data of voters who they might be able to get on side if they

:21:20. > :21:22.are brave enough to put a stop Brexit campaign together. Very

:21:23. > :21:26.interesting. We will see. We haven't had time to ask the real big

:21:27. > :21:31.question which is do you think it was worthwhile getting up at 5am

:21:32. > :21:34.this morning and getting a train back from Brussels to watch Prime

:21:35. > :21:42.Minister's Questions. To sit and talk to you.... That is good.

:21:43. > :21:47.Another busy day for you, Laura. Thanks for being with us.

:21:48. > :21:49.Let's talk more about the attempts by MPs to remove

:21:50. > :21:52.The former acting leader of the Labour Party,

:21:53. > :21:56.Margaret Beckett, is in Central Lobby.

:21:57. > :22:07.What is happening to your party? My party is in disarray, no doubt about

:22:08. > :22:12.it. Over 80% of our members of Parliament have decided it is no

:22:13. > :22:18.longer possible to work with our elected leader. But he insists he is

:22:19. > :22:24.staying. And if he insists he is staying in his post, what are you

:22:25. > :22:28.going to do about it? I suppose there will come a point when people

:22:29. > :22:31.have to make a decision as to whether or not there is a challenge.

:22:32. > :22:37.For myself, this has been very rushed. At the outset, I thought it

:22:38. > :22:45.was a mistake to start this process when it was started. But that has

:22:46. > :22:52.been overtaken by events. Over the next 24 hours, I hope Jeremy will

:22:53. > :22:57.think again. We will see a reaction from a lot of people who are saying,

:22:58. > :23:01.this is not a sustainable situation. You said on the Today programme in

:23:02. > :23:04.that vein today that there are people around Jeremy Corbyn who

:23:05. > :23:10.would rather see the Labour Party split than for him to go. Who are

:23:11. > :23:15.you referring to? Part of the problem is that nobody really knows

:23:16. > :23:19.who the people of influence are around Jeremy, because they are on

:23:20. > :23:27.the whole a separate group from the Labour Party. But it is clear that

:23:28. > :23:31.some of those who were hoping to express their concerns, without

:23:32. > :23:34.necessarily intending to resign, had it made clear to them that if it

:23:35. > :23:38.came to a choice between Jeremy and the Labour Party, the Labour Party

:23:39. > :23:45.is the one with the problems. Emily Thornberry has said that some people

:23:46. > :23:48.in the Shadow Cabinet and the Labour Party have been thinking about

:23:49. > :23:54.trying to bring Jeremy down for some time. Do you agree? There wasn't any

:23:55. > :23:57.doubt that there are people who were so unhappy at Jeremy's election that

:23:58. > :24:04.they have been resentful from the beginning. That is a relatively

:24:05. > :24:09.small group. My perception is that that was a diminishing group, that

:24:10. > :24:16.most the party were willing to support him. But they have found it

:24:17. > :24:18.not possible to do so. There is still strong evidence that Jeremy

:24:19. > :24:24.Corbyn enjoys mass support amongst the membership. If he is on the

:24:25. > :24:30.ballot paper after a leadership challenge and winds, would you

:24:31. > :24:35.advise your colleagues to form a different Labour Party -- if he

:24:36. > :24:41.wins? We are a long way from that. Jeremy was elected overwhelmingly to

:24:42. > :24:47.be leader of the Labour Party. That is a grave responsibility and it is

:24:48. > :24:52.in his hands. In my view, it is his duty as leader of the Labour Party

:24:53. > :24:59.not to put us into an abyss whereby he has no PLP behind him. It is his

:25:00. > :25:02.duty. I'm sorry to say this, but it is his duty to stand aside to save

:25:03. > :25:10.the party that has given him everything. Otherwise it will split,

:25:11. > :25:14.in your mind? Well, there seem to be people who would rather that it

:25:15. > :25:17.split. Angela Eagle is expected to launch a formal leadership challenge

:25:18. > :25:27.against Jeremy Corbyn. Would you support her? I don't know what will

:25:28. > :25:32.happen. My view is that no one should launch a leadership challenge

:25:33. > :25:36.at this moment in time, because the challenge of leadership is in Jeremy

:25:37. > :25:38.Corbyn's lap, and he should exercise that leadership, and I'm afraid he

:25:39. > :25:51.should go. If he steps down, then there could

:25:52. > :25:54.be an open contest. Where is the danger Margaret Beckett is worried

:25:55. > :26:02.about is that if there is a leadership challenge, Mr Corbyn

:26:03. > :26:08.could be re-elected by the members. Would that not mean that Labour

:26:09. > :26:12.could face a historic split? I certainly hope not. As I said at the

:26:13. > :26:16.outset, the Labour Party is more than the parliamentary party. We are

:26:17. > :26:21.a mass movement one third of a million strong. People throughout

:26:22. > :26:30.the party have responsibilities to the nation. I think the Labour Party

:26:31. > :26:34.is so important in terms of our nation's history and what we have

:26:35. > :26:44.achieved for our people, and it's vital that we stay together. Is it

:26:45. > :26:49.sustainable that the party in the country and the parliamentary party

:26:50. > :26:54.could be so far apart? Isn't that going to lead to a realignment of

:26:55. > :26:58.forces on the left? I certainly hope not. At a time like this, we need to

:26:59. > :27:02.be thinking about the interests of the nation first and foremost. I

:27:03. > :27:05.don't think people should be thinking about their individual

:27:06. > :27:10.careers. They should be thinking what is best for our nation, which

:27:11. > :27:15.is a united Labour Party and a proper opposition, particularly at a

:27:16. > :27:19.time of Brexit, when things are as frightening as they are. This is the

:27:20. > :27:26.worst time in Labour's history since at least the 30s, isn't it? I don't

:27:27. > :27:31.know. It is as hard a time as I have had. But you stay in and fight. I

:27:32. > :27:35.was born into the Labour Party, I will always stay in the Labour

:27:36. > :27:39.Party. For me, the Labour Party is what brings about positive change in

:27:40. > :27:43.our country and we have to stick together. If it continues like this,

:27:44. > :27:49.would you not want to go to Mr Corbyn and save the game is up? No.

:27:50. > :27:55.Jeremy is his own man. He is strong willed and he has made it clear that

:27:56. > :27:59.he is going to stay. Even if it rips Labour apart? He listens to members

:28:00. > :28:01.around the country and party members and his constituents, and I am sure

:28:02. > :28:03.he will take his cue from them. There's just time to put you out

:28:04. > :28:21.of your misery and give It was a long while ago, 1970. So,

:28:22. > :28:36.Emily, just to cheer you up, press the red buzzer and see what happens.

:28:37. > :28:41.OK! Mark Craven from Cheshire has won. On the subject of support for

:28:42. > :28:45.Jeremy Corbyn, Momentum, the grassroots movement that came about

:28:46. > :28:49.after his leadership, they have postponed an event scheduled for

:28:50. > :28:53.tonight because there was too much demand. They are looking for a

:28:54. > :28:58.bigger venue. Is there going to be a lot of Tory campaigning over the

:28:59. > :29:02.summer? Over August, yes. I thought the Tories were on holiday over

:29:03. > :29:08.August. Perhaps they will cancel them. Do you think they will develop

:29:09. > :29:11.a mass movement of enthusiastic support for the Tory party?

:29:12. > :29:16.The One o'clock news is starting over on BBC One now.

:29:17. > :29:18.Jo will be here at 11 o'clock tomorrow morning.

:29:19. > :29:23.Just when you think you've got it all sorted...

:29:24. > :29:36...things don't turn out quite as you'd expected.

:29:37. > :29:43.But then, no-one said it was going to be easy.

:29:44. > :29:46.So, how long have you been living as a woman?