:00:37. > :00:40.Hello and welcome to the Daily Politics.
:00:41. > :00:42.It's Theresa May's first day at Number Ten
:00:43. > :00:45.and she's been making some sweeping changes to her government,
:00:46. > :00:48.saying farewell to many of the big names from the Cameron era
:00:49. > :00:52.and welcoming some surprising figures to her team.
:00:53. > :00:55.Mrs May promised to lead a country that works for the many,
:00:56. > :01:00.but it's likely that it will be Britain's exit from the EU
:01:01. > :01:06.The biggest surprise of the reshuffle has been
:01:07. > :01:10.the decision to make Boris Johnson Foreign Secretary,
:01:11. > :01:15.as it's out with the old and in with some of the leading
:01:16. > :01:20.As Theresa May stamps her authority on the Conservatives the internal
:01:21. > :01:25.crisis in Jeremy Corbyn's Labour seems to be getting nastier.
:01:26. > :01:29.We'll look at whether Mr Corbyn or his critics have the advantage.
:01:30. > :01:31.And the political cartoonists are sharpening their pencils
:01:32. > :01:43.we'll talk about their impression of the new PM.
:01:44. > :01:48.and with us for the whole of the programme today
:01:49. > :01:49.is the former Conservative minister Francis Maude.
:01:50. > :01:51.he's now a member of the House of Lords.
:01:52. > :01:53.He's seen plenty of reshuffles in his time,
:01:54. > :01:56.but we're glad he hasn't been recalled
:01:57. > :02:15.to government or he wouldn't be able to join us in the studio today.
:02:16. > :02:25.As we came on air, the bank of England announced its decision on
:02:26. > :02:30.interest rates. It was widely predicted that they would cut
:02:31. > :02:36.interest rates but they have voted 8-1 on the monetary policy committee
:02:37. > :02:47.to keep interest rates on hold and to keep the rate of quantities
:02:48. > :02:51.quantitative easing the same. This is significant because 80% of
:02:52. > :02:56.economists predicted that he would cut the rates. A lot of them were
:02:57. > :03:02.economists who had a lot to Sage in the referendum campaign. We got an
:03:03. > :03:07.inkling that they may be wrong by the currency markets this morning.
:03:08. > :03:15.Both against the euro and the dollar sterling started to strengthen and
:03:16. > :03:24.it would seem unusual to strengthen if they were anticipating a cut in
:03:25. > :03:32.interest rates. The governor has held onto his firepower for the
:03:33. > :03:37.moment. Maybe in all August or September when he has a better idea
:03:38. > :03:44.of the lay of the land. There were dire predictions of cataclysm and
:03:45. > :03:49.the danger was lending credence to that by the actions that they take.
:03:50. > :03:53.This was a perfectly sensible decision to hold rates as they are
:03:54. > :03:59.and say actually there aren't any indications of cataclysm that we
:04:00. > :04:04.need to spend with a cut in interest rates. I think it is a sensible
:04:05. > :04:11.move. When it comes to monetary policy, he hasn't got that much room
:04:12. > :04:18.to manoeuvre given that rates are so low. They have been the same for
:04:19. > :04:25.seven years now. He has 175 billion of QE out there already. Everything
:04:26. > :04:32.he does is subject to the law of diminishing returns. I'm sure that's
:04:33. > :04:36.right. You could go lower and it was predicted and there are negative
:04:37. > :04:42.interest rates in places but that is a counsel of despair. The bank of
:04:43. > :04:48.Japan, the Riggs bank of Sweden, they have all come to two negative
:04:49. > :04:56.rates. The governor has made clear he is not a fan of negative rates.
:04:57. > :05:01.We have a stronger economy. We are not on the floor. The economy is
:05:02. > :05:07.pretty strong. The legacy of the Cameron government has been to take
:05:08. > :05:13.is from a very bad place to having a strong economy with good strong
:05:14. > :05:19.employment rates. I think what this reflects is a recognition that the
:05:20. > :05:24.world, the roof hasn't fallen in and you don't need to take desperate
:05:25. > :05:31.measures to shore things up. All right. It's likely that the economy
:05:32. > :05:36.will be slowing down in this quarter so the government will probably
:05:37. > :05:46.revisit this decision in August or September. Now, for the seven years
:05:47. > :05:51.back to 2009 interests rate stay the same.
:05:52. > :05:54.Let's turn back to the big story of the day, and that's Theresa May's
:05:55. > :05:58.After returning from the palace and arriving in Downing Street,
:05:59. > :06:00.Mrs May used her speech outside Number ten to promise
:06:01. > :06:02.to tackle injustice, and she said she was determined
:06:03. > :06:07.Following the referendum we face a time of great national change.
:06:08. > :06:09.And I know, because we are Great Britain,
:06:10. > :06:16.As we leave the European Union we will forge a bold, new positive role
:06:17. > :06:22.We will make Britain a country that works,
:06:23. > :06:35.not for a privileged few, but for of us.
:06:36. > :06:38.That will be the mission the government I lead.
:06:39. > :06:39.And, together, we will build a better Britain.
:06:40. > :06:55.The reaction to that speech from various quarters was that she had
:06:56. > :07:01.parked her tanks on Labour's lawn. What was there in that speech for
:07:02. > :07:06.true blue Tories? I think the Conservative Party at its best does
:07:07. > :07:13.occupy the centre ground. We have to be a party, if we are going to
:07:14. > :07:18.succeed electorally, to appeal to all parts of the country,
:07:19. > :07:23.geographically, socially, of racial background. She is continuing in the
:07:24. > :07:29.direction that David Cameron set. The direction he took which made the
:07:30. > :07:32.Conservative Party electable again after a long period in opposition
:07:33. > :07:37.where we lost three general elections in a row. That is really
:07:38. > :07:51.important. There wasn't so much in her speech is on the economic front.
:07:52. > :07:55.No one has ever suggested that a vote to leave the European Union
:07:56. > :08:00.will not have some short-term shock and downside effect on the, me. What
:08:01. > :08:05.people will want to hear in the days and weeks ahead is some sense of how
:08:06. > :08:10.we are going to use the opportunity that comes from being not in the
:08:11. > :08:16.European Union to build a different kind of economy that is even more
:08:17. > :08:20.buoyant and strong... Do you think that Philip Hammond who is one of
:08:21. > :08:26.those who warned of economic gloom and doom if the UK voted to leave
:08:27. > :08:32.the EU is the right person combine with Theresa May, who you could
:08:33. > :08:38.argue is not an economic expert, to then steer Britain through this
:08:39. > :08:46.short-term shock, as you put it? I never thought Philip's heart was
:08:47. > :08:52.terribly in the remaining campaign. He said in 2011 that he said he
:08:53. > :08:59.would vote against membership. His task is to set out creatively,
:09:00. > :09:04.imaginatively, what the opportunities are and what
:09:05. > :09:08.government policy will help that. The key things that people will want
:09:09. > :09:14.to hear is that there is a very strong commitment by the government
:09:15. > :09:18.London are being an incredibly competitive international financial
:09:19. > :09:21.centre. That is about a regulatory regime, a tax regime that makes
:09:22. > :09:28.people want to do business from London. That's the economic side of
:09:29. > :09:38.it. Let's look at style. She's quite bold. It's a genetic reshuffle. A
:09:39. > :09:43.lot of ministerial corpses abound. Yes and it looks a bit personal, to
:09:44. > :09:47.be honest. I company elite understand the desire of a new Prime
:09:48. > :09:51.Minister to sweep away some of the characters that formed the essence
:09:52. > :09:56.of the Cameron government. I think she shouldn't forget that those were
:09:57. > :10:00.people who also got the Conservative Party into a place where it could
:10:01. > :10:08.get back into government and I particularly regret the loss of
:10:09. > :10:11.Michael Gove. He is a powerful reformer, a powerful intellect,
:10:12. > :10:23.brave and clever and principled and a really effective reformer. I think
:10:24. > :10:28.to lose him was a mistake. Sterling holding steady against the euro. 1.1
:10:29. > :10:38.nine. Against the dollar it is 1.32 in the wake of no cut in the
:10:39. > :10:43.interest rate. It looks like the currency markets had anticipated it.
:10:44. > :10:45.So Theresa May defied some commentators who thought
:10:46. > :10:47.this could be something of continuity reshuffle.
:10:48. > :10:49.Instead we've seen the sacking of some big figures
:10:50. > :10:51.from David Cameron's government, including George Osborne,
:10:52. > :11:03.Jeremy Hunt has been removed from health but we don't know his new
:11:04. > :11:05.appointment. And Mrs May also made some genuinely
:11:06. > :11:08.surprising new appointments, including several high-profile
:11:09. > :11:10.Brexit-backers and, in the biggest Yesterday we heard
:11:11. > :11:17.Philip Hammond has taken the keys and Boris Johnson was the first
:11:18. > :11:22.big surprise being appointed
:11:23. > :11:24.Foreign Secretary, while Amber Rudd moves
:11:25. > :11:27.into Theresa May's old job Mrs May has kept her promise
:11:28. > :11:32.to appoint a eurosceptic to be in charge of negotiations
:11:33. > :11:35.with Brussels on leaving the EU, David Davis takes that plum role
:11:36. > :11:39.and his eurosceptic comrade Liam Fox has taken on another
:11:40. > :11:44.newly created position; Secretary of State
:11:45. > :11:48.for International Trade, while Michael Fallon keeps his role
:11:49. > :11:50.as Defence Secretary. George Osborne,
:11:51. > :11:55.Michael Gove, Nicky Morgan, have all been
:11:56. > :12:00.kicked out of the gang. Just before we came on air we also
:12:01. > :12:07.learnt that Liz Truss has been and Justine Greening will be
:12:08. > :12:25.the new Education Secretary. We saw that just before we went on
:12:26. > :12:30.air. We did indeed. The fact that Liz Truss has gone to the Justice
:12:31. > :12:37.Department and Amber Rudd to the Home Office means that some were
:12:38. > :12:41.speculating that Mrs may never liked the division between the Home Office
:12:42. > :12:45.and justice. There was talk that she might bring the departments together
:12:46. > :12:51.again. She has kept them separate and put a woman in charge of each.
:12:52. > :12:56.The Department for Education will take on higher education, skills and
:12:57. > :13:03.print inches is. -- and apprenticeships. Given that were
:13:04. > :13:09.having a separate department for trade deals, it will be looking as
:13:10. > :13:12.if the business Department and the Department of Energy and Climate
:13:13. > :13:17.Change are going to be merged together. Because a lot of
:13:18. > :13:19.businesses are worried about energy policy, it may be no bad thing to
:13:20. > :13:24.have them under one roof. We're joined now by Tom Newton-Dunn
:13:25. > :13:27.from the Sun and Isabel Oakeshott from the Mail, they've both seen
:13:28. > :13:46.a fair few reshuffles Mrs may's reshuffle to date. The
:13:47. > :13:50.Notting Hill set has gone. This cabal of people who were at
:13:51. > :13:54.university together and socialise together, they are used to being in
:13:55. > :13:58.the ascendancy and running the country. There is a shocked
:13:59. > :14:03.devastation that they are not in charge any more. A lot have fallen
:14:04. > :14:15.out with each other. It has had an incredibly traumatic impact on their
:14:16. > :14:22.lives. What's your take? It is quite astonishingly brutal. We knew
:14:23. > :14:28.Theresa May was her own woman and was going to be strong but to chop
:14:29. > :14:32.off so many heads is quite amazing. This is her saying, this is my
:14:33. > :14:36.government, step out of line and you will be going back to the
:14:37. > :14:43.backbenches. Something else is going on. Look at the line-up. Someone
:14:44. > :14:51.rudely said it is the grown-ups in charge. And older line-up of the
:14:52. > :14:56.Conservative Party. The older guard. It is quite a defensive reshuffle.
:14:57. > :15:02.Theresa May has carefully put a load of people in position to create a
:15:03. > :15:07.buffer between her and some massive areas of trouble. Philip Hammond at
:15:08. > :15:12.the Treasury, he is used to doom and gloom. The man who has to do the
:15:13. > :15:18.cuts and horrible stuff. Protects her from some of the bad news. David
:15:19. > :15:22.Davis and Liam Fox running Brexit. If it goes wrong, they are the
:15:23. > :15:29.people who wanted it. That is only fair. We are learning that Jeremy
:15:30. > :15:34.Hunt is expected to stay in his post at the Department of Health. Number
:15:35. > :15:39.ten is going to confirm that shortly. Online, everyone is saying
:15:40. > :15:43.that he had been fired from Department of Health. Sacked from
:15:44. > :15:49.the Cabinet. Then it was reined back to moving from health but now we are
:15:50. > :15:57.being told that he's probably still at the Department of Health. Tom
:15:58. > :16:02.says, to encourage the others, a pretty good phrase to use, it is
:16:03. > :16:08.Bastille Day. Is it not the case that if you are a new Prime
:16:09. > :16:14.Minister, you have also won during the parliamentary term, not won a
:16:15. > :16:16.Parliamentary election. You do want to stamp your mark. To tell people
:16:17. > :16:26.it is a new government. done that in spades, the decision to
:16:27. > :16:30.axe Michael Gove completely is a particularly significant one, it
:16:31. > :16:33.sends a moral message, there is no doubting among the colleagues of
:16:34. > :16:38.Michael Gove his competence. He was doing a good job at the Department
:16:39. > :16:45.for justice, he is clearly an extremely able person. In deciding
:16:46. > :16:49.to axe him altogether, she is sending out a message about loyalty
:16:50. > :16:53.and trust, that is very important. In relation to Jeremy Hunt, he does
:16:54. > :16:59.stay, that will be very controversial. Number ten, the old
:17:00. > :17:04.number ten, always regarded Jeremy Hunt is a very competent minister,
:17:05. > :17:11.personable, but he has really come right up against the doctors in this
:17:12. > :17:15.row over contracts and that has not been resolved and if he is still
:17:16. > :17:19.there, how does it play out? Potential headache for Theresa May.
:17:20. > :17:24.That is why we thought he had been sacked, seemed logical. The new
:17:25. > :17:27.Chief Whip, Gavin Williamson... Me neither! That is a great
:17:28. > :17:49.appointment. He is... Give us a word on him. He was David
:17:50. > :17:53.Cameron's PBS, and a very effective one, he was loved by the Tory
:17:54. > :18:00.backbenches. And, new knows where all of the bodies are. -- PPS. -- he
:18:01. > :18:06.knows where all of the bodies are. Williamson, if you are watching
:18:07. > :18:11.television, you cannot come on here, you have two stay anonymous, you are
:18:12. > :18:23.the Chief Whip. Boris is fun and great, isn't he,
:18:24. > :18:29.bouncing around like he is going to be the next Prime Minister, and they
:18:30. > :18:32.never actually... They have just made him Foreign Secretary?... !
:18:33. > :18:49.LAUGHTER Speechless! Perhaps Boris Johnson
:18:50. > :18:54.will do the same if Angela Eagle becomes leader of the Labour Party.
:18:55. > :19:04.Wise decision? And expected evidence of a sense of humour! -- unexpected
:19:05. > :19:09.evidence. We all know that he is very fun. The way that this has been
:19:10. > :19:13.set up, he is not going to be involved in the Brexit, I should
:19:14. > :19:19.imagine, this will be a diminished role. He will be involved in some
:19:20. > :19:23.way, but presumably David Davies's Brexit department will take the
:19:24. > :19:28.lead. Liam Fox's trade department will take the lead, he will help
:19:29. > :19:31.David Davies on trade relationship with Europe, but also take the lead
:19:32. > :19:37.in new trade relationships with other countries. So, what does the
:19:38. > :19:45.Foreign Office do? That is the first question for him to answer. LAUGHTER
:19:46. > :19:50.Are you thinking, not much? There is a huge amount to do, permanent seat
:19:51. > :19:55.on the United Nations Security Council, there is a load of stuff,
:19:56. > :19:59.the Commonwealth... There is an interesting potential to build a
:20:00. > :20:08.Commonwealth trade relationship, and that would be Liam Fox, rather than
:20:09. > :20:13.Boris You may describe this as a rather clever move of defence by
:20:14. > :20:16.Theresa May, Boris is still the most likely person to become Prime
:20:17. > :20:20.Minister afterwards, he has support within the party, where is the one
:20:21. > :20:23.place where it is almost impossible to pull off a coup, challenge
:20:24. > :20:36.leadership, on an aeroplane, halfway to Malay share! You cannot do too
:20:37. > :20:38.much. -- Malaysia. Whether Boris can make the Americans laugh and not
:20:39. > :20:42.offend the Chinese too much, who knows yet. A lot of people do not
:20:43. > :20:46.know too much about Philip Hammond, Chancellor of the Exchequer, but we
:20:47. > :20:52.know him rather on the Daily well, Politics, he would come on a lot, I
:20:53. > :20:56.doubt he as Chancellor, but he has been interviewed with some very
:20:57. > :21:02.famous people, not just Jo Coburn, somebody even more famous.
:21:03. > :21:07.I'm delighted to say that instead of any Labour Minister, we are joined
:21:08. > :21:20.by... Peppa Pig. I don't think any party
:21:21. > :21:21.has identified in detail how they will reduce public
:21:22. > :21:24.spending over the course of the The question to the Labour Party,
:21:25. > :21:28.to Peppa, if I may, you have all servants, you have
:21:29. > :21:31.all the data, you are sitting You know all the
:21:32. > :21:33.forward commitments. Why have you not
:21:34. > :21:39.published a comprehensive My understanding is that she will be
:21:40. > :21:42.May chief secretary to the under Mr Heyman. Here is the thing, safe pair
:21:43. > :21:51.of hands. -- made Chief Secretary to the Treasury under Mr Hammond.
:21:52. > :21:58.Conservative with a small sea but also a lot of talk from Theresa
:21:59. > :22:00.May's camp and other parts of ending fiscal austerities and building up a
:22:01. > :22:07.big infrastructure fund, borrowing and to nearly 0%, more imaginative
:22:08. > :22:10.things. Really creating a Northern powerhouse which joins South
:22:11. > :22:15.Yorkshire with Lancashire, meaning that High Speed two is not so
:22:16. > :22:22.important as state-of-the-art communications east and West. I know
:22:23. > :22:26.you find it difficult to put Philip Hammond and imaginative in the same
:22:27. > :22:29.bracket but the thing to say about big Bill, box office fell, he is
:22:30. > :22:37.quite different from his public persona. Not only somebody who is
:22:38. > :22:45.competent and personable and he will do a good job, undoubtably. The
:22:46. > :22:48.first hints that George Osborne was doomed was when they were talking
:22:49. > :22:52.about changing policy on austerity. At that point it was clear that
:22:53. > :23:02.George Osborne was out. -- Big Phil. -- Box Office Phil. I have high
:23:03. > :23:06.hopes for Big Phil. He went into the MoD and sorted out a deficit, he is
:23:07. > :23:09.highly competent with numbers, he is lacking in emotional intelligence,
:23:10. > :23:17.the problem with him. He just does not show it to you. You are special?
:23:18. > :23:22.She is a lucky girl! LAUGHTER She will be the judge of that. If he
:23:23. > :23:26.is going to deliver this healing society, one nation agenda, then you
:23:27. > :23:32.need a little bit of empathy about it, standing at the dispatch box and
:23:33. > :23:36.deliver a thing austerity budget after austerity budget... --
:23:37. > :23:42.delivering. The idea was not to do that, the former Chancellor wanted
:23:43. > :23:47.to do the punishment budget, it was so unpopular among Tory MPs, that
:23:48. > :23:54.she could not continue with him as Chancellor. It was not on the cards.
:23:55. > :23:58.Kind of economically ridiculous. It was an absurd thing for him to
:23:59. > :24:02.threaten. Then he bounced back at some stage? Careers are never over
:24:03. > :24:10.until they are over, he is in his mid-40s. He is very talented and
:24:11. > :24:14.able. My favourite Philip Hammond story, a senior military person told
:24:15. > :24:19.me, one week into Philip Mack reports ten year as Defence
:24:20. > :24:23.Secretary, they had gone in with the normal slide deck, and PowerPoint
:24:24. > :24:27.presentation and he said, next time, can I have a spreadsheet! -- tenure.
:24:28. > :24:40.LAUGHTER My kind of guy! -- Philip Hammond's
:24:41. > :24:45.tenure. Over to Downing Street now, Norman Smith, there he is, our man
:24:46. > :24:53.outside of number ten and 11, it seems, give us the latest. Patrick
:24:54. > :24:56.McLoughlin has come out, former Transport Secretary, needed not tell
:24:57. > :25:00.us what job he has got, it was the only one who would not tell us what
:25:01. > :25:03.he has got, he has moved somewhere. Jeremy Hunt, we have been talking
:25:04. > :25:08.about him all morning wondering what has happened to him, he has gone in,
:25:09. > :25:14.I presume he must be moving from health. You would not invite
:25:15. > :25:18.somebody in just to tell them that it is as you were, so he must be
:25:19. > :25:23.moving to some new post. On the women front, I have not seen as many
:25:24. > :25:30.as we were being promised. I thought we would see an awful lot more, so
:25:31. > :25:32.far, what we have seen, Justine Greening, Education Secretary,
:25:33. > :25:36.moving over from international do that. Liz truss taking over as
:25:37. > :25:42.Justice Secretary from environment, and overnight, the massive promotion
:25:43. > :25:47.to Home Secretary by Amber arrived, only an MP six years ago and now,
:25:48. > :25:51.she is Home Secretary. -- Liz Truss. We have not seen this promised march
:25:52. > :25:55.of the women, so far, maybe that will come later on. But the one
:25:56. > :25:59.thing that I think everyone here today has kind of been struck by its
:26:00. > :26:05.the scale of this reshuffle. -- Amber Rudd. This is not a nip and
:26:06. > :26:11.tuck, this is wholesale surgery. What I kind of take from it is two
:26:12. > :26:15.things. One, we are seeing the dismantling of the Notting Hill set,
:26:16. > :26:22.the key figures, George Osborne, Michael Gove, Oliver Letwin, they
:26:23. > :26:25.have gone. They are out. And part of the message that Theresa May wants
:26:26. > :26:30.to send is not merely that she is not part of that but that it is
:26:31. > :26:34.change, big change, new government, this is not carry on Cameron, this
:26:35. > :26:42.is an entirely different government and that is why we are seeing such
:26:43. > :26:49.radical reshaping of the cabinet. Maybe they will come maybe they will
:26:50. > :26:59.come with the appointments. I can do that. Equality rains are the men,
:27:00. > :27:02.I'm glad to see that. There is still a question next to Jeremy Hunt, we
:27:03. > :27:07.have seen conflicting indicators about whether he will stay in health
:27:08. > :27:13.or be moved, we will hold fire. As you say, brutal, guest Francis Maude
:27:14. > :27:17.and it is a bit personal, do you think that she will come to regret
:27:18. > :27:25.the fact that she has scattered the corpses all over Downing Street. I
:27:26. > :27:29.am not... There may be a personal element in despatching Michael Gove,
:27:30. > :27:35.but actually, I think it is more canny than personal, and I say that
:27:36. > :27:39.because it is very obvious she has brought in the Brexiteers and said,
:27:40. > :27:45.you guys, Brexit, that is your problem, sort it out. In the key
:27:46. > :27:51.Brexit facing departments, Foreign Office, Boris Johnson, the new exit
:27:52. > :27:56.from the Europeans union Department, what a mouthful, David Davies, and
:27:57. > :27:59.the new International Trade apartment, Liam Fox. All the Brexit
:28:00. > :28:03.facing departments have been handed over to the Brexiteers. On one level
:28:04. > :28:09.you could say, that makes sense, they believe in it and make it --
:28:10. > :28:13.will make it work. I suspect Theresa May is also thinking down the line
:28:14. > :28:16.that this makes her politically bombproof if it goes badly wrong,
:28:17. > :28:19.or, there has to be awkward compromises where we have two tweak
:28:20. > :28:26.back a bit on ending free movement, whether we have to do a deal to stay
:28:27. > :28:32.a part of the single market. -- the new International Trade department.
:28:33. > :28:37.She can say, it is not me, it is the Brexit people... It is a canny move.
:28:38. > :28:42.It'll be interesting to see how that pans out, Patrick McLoughlin, he has
:28:43. > :28:51.been moved from transport to Tory party chairman. Interesting, the
:28:52. > :28:55.great question, what happens to Heathrow? Whoever gets the transport
:28:56. > :29:00.job, people will be going through their CV, to see if they have ever
:29:01. > :29:05.said, suggested, knotted anything at all about Gatwick, Heathrow, that
:29:06. > :29:10.would be the big decision. -- mattered anything at all. It means
:29:11. > :29:16.the chairman of the Conservative Party... Stephen Crabb is just
:29:17. > :29:19.walking in... OK... We will come back to you. We will come back to
:29:20. > :29:24.you if there is any more significant developments. The current new
:29:25. > :29:30.chairman of the Conservative Party is a former coalminer, perhaps that
:29:31. > :29:35.plays to Theresa May's... Justine Greening? Education? Yes, we are
:29:36. > :29:40.up-to-date. And Boris Johnson has already called Secretary of State
:29:41. > :29:42.John Kerry, in the United States. The first call. Theresa May's first
:29:43. > :29:49.call was to Angela Merkel. David Cameron told MPs
:29:50. > :29:51.yesterday that his party had managed resignation,
:29:52. > :29:52.nomination, all before Labour had
:29:53. > :29:55.decided the rules Well, today the party
:29:56. > :29:58.is confirming those rules, but the contest is anything
:29:59. > :30:16.but straightforward It is a very difficult meeting. It
:30:17. > :30:18.was highly emotionally charged. A number of colleagues were very upset
:30:19. > :30:22.during the meeting, including myself.
:30:23. > :30:29.There was a number of threats made and a number of votes that were
:30:30. > :30:33.obviously crucial in determining the future of the Labour Party.
:30:34. > :30:38.VOICEOVER: Jeremy Corbyn emerged from Tuesday's fractious marathon
:30:39. > :30:43.emergency session of Labour's governing body after a torrid two
:30:44. > :30:47.weeks. Having suffered a vote of no-confidence by fellow MPs, and a
:30:48. > :30:52.leadership challenge, a vote on whether he could automatically stand
:30:53. > :30:56.again went his way. I'm delighted to say, the Labour Party national
:30:57. > :31:02.executive has decided that an incumbent is automatically on the
:31:03. > :31:05.ballot paper... CHEERING He may come to rue his decision to
:31:06. > :31:11.leave the crucial meeting at which he had a vote early. Jeremy Corbyn
:31:12. > :31:16.left the room, went to greet supporters outside, to see the
:31:17. > :31:19.media, and the NEC then made some significant decisions about the
:31:20. > :31:25.contest, that gave Jeremy Corbyn's opponents on the NEC, and in labour
:31:26. > :31:32.more widely, some hope that they can beat him.
:31:33. > :31:40.It was so different last September. Jeremy Corbyn beat off rivals for
:31:41. > :31:47.the leadership with an impressive 67% of the vote. Ten months on,
:31:48. > :31:51.despite losing support from 80% of his Parliamentary party, he has
:31:52. > :31:55.refused to resign claiming he is still the overwhelming favourite
:31:56. > :32:00.among members. Now Angela Eagle and Owen Smith have launched leadership
:32:01. > :32:06.campaigns and the battle for the future of the party is underway. So
:32:07. > :32:13.how could rule changes affect the contest? When Jeremy Corbyn was
:32:14. > :32:18.elected by 60% of the electorate it was under one member one vote and
:32:19. > :32:23.49% were from party members. The other half were from registered
:32:24. > :32:32.supporters who paid a one-off fee for a vote. The rest from affiliated
:32:33. > :32:37.members of the Labour Party. For this summer's contest the party
:32:38. > :32:44.membership vote is based on members who joined before January this year.
:32:45. > :32:48.Pretty much the same thing. However, for registered voters it has changed
:32:49. > :32:55.drastically. The amount you have to pay has gone up from ?3 to ?25 and
:32:56. > :33:02.the time to do that has gone down from three months to two days. The
:33:03. > :33:09.strategy was to recruit centrist voters from outside Labour by
:33:10. > :33:14.something like the ?3 scheme. Now the fee is ?25 and supporters only
:33:15. > :33:21.have two days to sign up. There is much less attempt to do that. --
:33:22. > :33:25.opportunity to do that. That reflects fears that they wouldn't be
:33:26. > :33:30.able to attract enough supporters to the party to make a difference. They
:33:31. > :33:36.think the best hope of beating Jeremy Corbyn is to shrink the
:33:37. > :33:43.electorate. There is a third group that can support. Affiliated
:33:44. > :33:54.supporters. Could Corbyn supporters use this route to vote? We now
:33:55. > :33:58.understand that potentially cheaper route has been blocked by Labour's
:33:59. > :34:02.procedural committee who have ruled that only people who join the
:34:03. > :34:07.affiliated groups before January 12 will be able to vote. Discussions
:34:08. > :34:10.are underway to make their deadlines earlier than August the 8th.
:34:11. > :34:16.To discuss this we're joined by Matt Wrack, General Secretary
:34:17. > :34:32.who resigned as Shadow Attorney General in January,
:34:33. > :34:36.and who is backing Owen Smith in the Labour leadership contest.
:34:37. > :34:43.Why does somebody who joined three months ago have less right to vote
:34:44. > :34:56.than a registered supporter who can join next Tuesday? The idea is quite
:34:57. > :35:04.simply to have a period so that there is no late flood of members.
:35:05. > :35:10.It was a mistake from your perspective last time to have ?3
:35:11. > :35:15.membership. The issue last time was the logistics of trying to manage
:35:16. > :35:19.it. We have to ensure that those who sign up share their aims and values
:35:20. > :35:23.of the Labour Party and trying to do that with the numbers and in the
:35:24. > :35:27.time to do that proved extraordinarily difficult. They have
:35:28. > :35:33.done their best to make this a manageable and fair process. To a
:35:34. > :35:41.normal person watching, trying to navigate through it is ridiculous.
:35:42. > :35:48.It's not grown-up politics. Jeremy Corbyn refusing to leave the room
:35:49. > :35:54.during the NEC meeting. Attempts to circumvent the rules on registered
:35:55. > :36:01.supporters joining. None of this is grown-up politics. Jeremy Corbyn is
:36:02. > :36:08.a member of the National executive voting. There is no obligation for
:36:09. > :36:12.him to leave any meeting. Absolutely it is grown-up. I've been in the
:36:13. > :36:16.labour movement all my life and I've never seen a committee where
:36:17. > :36:21.somebody who is entitled to a vote at committee is asked to leave the
:36:22. > :36:27.room. That is pretty scandalous. I think there is a number of things
:36:28. > :36:32.going on. I was at a meeting yesterday and a firefighter of 39
:36:33. > :36:36.years service who joined the Labour Party in January has been excluded
:36:37. > :36:42.from voting. It is exactly the kind of people who should be in the
:36:43. > :36:48.Labour ranks. He has been ruled out but somebody who has joined in a
:36:49. > :36:55.narrow two-day window can vote. That is the contradiction. There is a
:36:56. > :37:00.valid argument that the ?3 membership cost didn't cover costs
:37:01. > :37:12.last year but a ?10 membership would appeal to the people that Labour
:37:13. > :37:15.should appeal to. You are terrified that Jeremy Corbyn will win again so
:37:16. > :37:23.you are trying to price people out of voting for him? That isn't it.
:37:24. > :37:28.You have to be able to ensure that those who sign up to vote share the
:37:29. > :37:32.aims and values of the Labour Party. There was a terrific problem doing
:37:33. > :37:38.that last summer. We have to have a manageable process. These are people
:37:39. > :37:47.who have already joined the Labour Party. About 135,000 existing
:37:48. > :37:52.members will be excluded. In March 2015 there would have been recent
:37:53. > :37:56.joiners of my constituency party who would be excluded as well. This
:37:57. > :38:00.gives management to the process and it ensures that people share the
:38:01. > :38:07.aims and values. Ayew saying that those people who joined don't? I'm
:38:08. > :38:12.not saying that but it is a process of ensuring that those people don't.
:38:13. > :38:17.What about Jeremy Corbyn clinging on to power when his Parliamentary
:38:18. > :38:23.party has deserted him. Let's say he does get re-elected. He still won't
:38:24. > :38:31.have the support of Labour MPs. They still won't serve in his shadow
:38:32. > :38:36.Carrie -- cabinet. He won't be able to get his policies through. He will
:38:37. > :38:39.study failing his voters because there will be no functioning
:38:40. > :38:44.opposition. Take the example of Trident on Monday. There will be no
:38:45. > :38:54.representation of his view on Monday. Clive Lewis has asked for a
:38:55. > :38:59.free vote. I hope it will be a democratic debate about policy. I
:39:00. > :39:03.would expect members to comply and accept the decision of the Labour
:39:04. > :39:10.members at the end of the process. What I'm saying is that they won't.
:39:11. > :39:16.What people are saying now and after a contest might be two different
:39:17. > :39:21.things. Those policies of the Labour Party are not being put forward now.
:39:22. > :39:30.This is regrettable but people have been coordinating this for a long
:39:31. > :39:34.time. Not some, 80%. Some people have been planning this for a long
:39:35. > :39:40.time and others have been caught up in it. There is a mood in the Labour
:39:41. > :39:46.Party that this ends. People have been asking their Parliamentary
:39:47. > :39:52.members not to support the coup against Jeremy Corbyn. Now they are
:39:53. > :39:55.telling them not to meet. Will you fall in behind Jeremy Corbyn and
:39:56. > :40:06.John McDonnell and others to support their domestic policy agenda? We
:40:07. > :40:10.have to accept the decision, yes. I resigned because there was this
:40:11. > :40:14.massive lack of confidence in his leadership but I can support our
:40:15. > :40:27.aims as a member of the Labour Party in a variety of ways. And that is
:40:28. > :40:32.welcome. This is a battle between two camps trying to get as many of
:40:33. > :40:39.their supporters out. It is a leadership contest about who can get
:40:40. > :40:47.supporters out and who can sign up as many as they can in two days. And
:40:48. > :40:51.woman it? There is great in these as to support Jeremy Corbyn's campaign
:40:52. > :40:56.because he has stood by working people. He stands for public
:40:57. > :40:59.services and the things that we want to hear from a Labour Party and
:41:00. > :41:05.unfortunately we haven't always heard them. Is support seeping away
:41:06. > :41:10.in the way that Stephen Kinnock said yesterday? There are people who
:41:11. > :41:14.supported Jeremy last year who are telling me that they wouldn't do so
:41:15. > :41:20.now. There isn't a race to sign people up. Hundreds of thousands of
:41:21. > :41:25.long-standing Labour members are out there to make the decision as well.
:41:26. > :41:31.It is about a considered decision by our party members. The party's
:41:32. > :41:36.future in terms of splitting or not. There was a claim that the Shadow
:41:37. > :41:42.Chancellor was prepared to split the party if that was what it takes.
:41:43. > :41:50.Denied by the Chancellor but Owen Smith insists that's what he said.
:41:51. > :41:55.Nobody wants to see a split. But for Jeremy Corbyn to stay as it were the
:41:56. > :41:59.party splitting? There is a democratic process that Jeremy
:42:00. > :42:02.Corbyn has committed to and as a long-standing loyal member of the
:42:03. > :42:11.Labour Party he has not remotely raised the question of a split. The
:42:12. > :42:20.only people doing that are a Labour MEP.... And John McDonald so claims
:42:21. > :42:34.Owen Smith and five other people and that room. That's not the way to go
:42:35. > :42:40.into it. So you would condemn a -- John McDonnell for saying that? If
:42:41. > :42:44.he says he didn't say that, I believe he didn't say that. He is a
:42:45. > :42:59.very committed and long-standing Labour MP. News coming in thick and
:43:00. > :43:04.fast. Theresa Villers has resigned from her post. She was offered
:43:05. > :43:09.another role away from Northern Ireland but she didn't feel she
:43:10. > :43:13.could take it. She is now away from the government. It took Margaret
:43:14. > :43:20.Thatcher for years to get a Cabinet that she wanted. Theresa May looks
:43:21. > :43:26.like she has done it in 24 hours. She's not just changing the Cabinet.
:43:27. > :43:31.There are major changes, we think, underfoot in the structure of
:43:32. > :43:36.government. It looks like the business Department has gone. The
:43:37. > :43:41.Department of Energy and Climate Change, gone entirely. The
:43:42. > :43:49.Department for Transport are gone. We are being told that there will be
:43:50. > :43:55.a new Department of business, energy and industry. Energy and climate
:43:56. > :43:59.change will move into a business Department. I would suggest that
:44:00. > :44:04.means energy policy would change because it will be even more by
:44:05. > :44:08.industry rather than by climate change as it was. We also understand
:44:09. > :44:15.that there could be a new infrastructure Department to be set
:44:16. > :44:22.up as well. Probably where transport could end up. Very interesting.
:44:23. > :44:31.These are quite major changes. I think more manger changes. Ted Heath
:44:32. > :44:35.brought in the environment Department and trade and industry
:44:36. > :44:42.and this is one of the biggest shake-up in Whitehall departments
:44:43. > :44:46.going way back to them. So how do these departments get organised?
:44:47. > :44:50.Let's listen to two of the men heading to two of the new
:44:51. > :44:57.departments. What are your priorities? We will decide those
:44:58. > :45:03.collectively. Are you going to be prioritising access to the single
:45:04. > :45:09.market? Wait and see. Is Boris Johnson your boss? I think we have
:45:10. > :45:14.tremendous opportunities to increase our global profile and we should be
:45:15. > :45:23.extraordinarily optimistic and confident about the future. The new
:45:24. > :45:30.Minister for trade, if I can call him that. Let's see how significant
:45:31. > :45:33.these Whitehall changes are. We are joined by Julian MacBrayne from the
:45:34. > :45:42.Institute for government. There is a lot more change than we thought when
:45:43. > :45:46.we booked you to come on. It does seem like a very large change to the
:45:47. > :45:51.structure of government and the shape of departments. David Cameron
:45:52. > :45:55.was very conservative about this. The bubbly because he didn't believe
:45:56. > :46:04.that changing things round made people concentrate on their day job.
:46:05. > :46:11.It reflects Theresa May's priorities. Francis you have been at
:46:12. > :46:16.the heart of government and there is a lot of talk on giving
:46:17. > :46:22.infrastructure a new role. A lot of talk that energy policy was a mess.
:46:23. > :46:28.Almost as big a mess as it is in Germany at the moment. A line that
:46:29. > :46:32.with the business Department, these are not changes for the sake of
:46:33. > :46:37.changes. They reflect the direction that this government wants to go.
:46:38. > :46:43.I am always sceptical about Whitehall changes, they cost money,
:46:44. > :46:49.you move deckchairs around... New titles, new plaques! The same people
:46:50. > :46:52.in slightly different desks. The theory is always that it creates
:46:53. > :46:56.joined up government, all that you do is move the boundaries to
:46:57. > :47:01.different places... And you disrupt all of the ways for people to work
:47:02. > :47:07.together across those boundaries. It is very disruptive. There can be
:47:08. > :47:10.benefits from it, the business Department, which I was partly in
:47:11. > :47:16.over the last year, I think that was poorly led, not officially led
:47:17. > :47:22.department, it needs shaking up. Poorly led by the permanent
:47:23. > :47:27.bureaucracy? Yes, I found it not a high functioning. Going back to
:47:28. > :47:33.education, which is where we were eight years ago. Yes, kind of makes
:47:34. > :47:37.sense. Yes, I understand universities are connected to
:47:38. > :47:41.education(!) and we have a couple of new departments, one for trade
:47:42. > :47:45.deals, Liam Fox, one with the specific task of negotiating our
:47:46. > :47:49.withdrawal from the European Union, where do they get the people for
:47:50. > :47:53.that? At the moment, you are right at the heart of this, easy to talk
:47:54. > :47:59.about reorganisation and abstract, Francis Maude is right, it is the
:48:00. > :48:03.same people you are trying to organise into the spaces, they are
:48:04. > :48:07.pulling in people from Whitehall, particularly into the Brexit
:48:08. > :48:12.department. That will go on to the next few weeks, this is literally
:48:13. > :48:16.finding desks, making sure people have the Internet connection, or
:48:17. > :48:21.whatever! When they get down to work they may base that on the
:48:22. > :48:26.infrastructure around the Cabinet Office. Trade is interesting,
:48:27. > :48:29.because there was a thought that maybe the Brexit minister would get
:48:30. > :48:33.trade, and create a proper permanent department that could go on, instead
:48:34. > :48:36.we have this department that is short-term, just doing the
:48:37. > :48:40.negotiation, and a trade Department separate from that. The Trade
:48:41. > :48:45.Minister is under instruction to do as many trade deals as they can. No
:48:46. > :48:53.one person can do that, travelling around the world to do that and do
:48:54. > :48:57.the renegotiation at the same time. That is right. It will be
:48:58. > :49:01.fascinating to see how money negotiations we can get under way.
:49:02. > :49:05.One month ago, Theresa May, two weeks ago, she did not know that she
:49:06. > :49:10.was going to be Prime Minister, when Ted Heath came in, 1970, he had
:49:11. > :49:14.given massive thought to how to reorganise Whitehall, and the
:49:15. > :49:18.departments, first-ever department of the environment in the Western
:49:19. > :49:21.world, big things. Even Tony and Gordon Brown made sure they had
:49:22. > :49:26.thought about them, debated them privately. Here we have major
:49:27. > :49:32.change, we have no evidence that Theresa May was ever thinking of any
:49:33. > :49:34.of this. And around elections, the opposition talks to civil servants
:49:35. > :49:39.very privately and give them warning, we put that in
:49:40. > :49:41.deliberately, this is hugely disruptive, people sitting at desks
:49:42. > :49:47.thinking, where am I working, where am I going to be based next? The
:49:48. > :49:51.wage levels between these departments are different... People
:49:52. > :49:54.spend ages talking about that. It is just... It is dangerous to stick
:49:55. > :49:58.this distraction on top of the huge challenges for government but also
:49:59. > :50:02.remember, we probably have too reorganise UK Government again as it
:50:03. > :50:05.becomes clear exactly what the new relationship is with Europe and what
:50:06. > :50:09.we have to do that we have not done previously. It is a little
:50:10. > :50:12.surprising that she has chosen to do this big change this quickly,
:50:13. > :50:17.presumably with this little planning. Thank you for that, it
:50:18. > :50:20.will keep the Institute of government in a job! LAUGHTER
:50:21. > :50:26.Rat problem and not necessarily that is at the forefront of the nation's
:50:27. > :50:34.mind... We can confirm, Jeremy Hunt will continue as Secretary of State
:50:35. > :50:38.for Health! We have managed to get that wrong about six different ways
:50:39. > :50:42.so far. Good to get the record straight, this is a press release by
:50:43. > :50:47.number ten. And a new leader for the House of Lords. Amanda is very good.
:50:48. > :50:52.She has been there a long time, very young, but extremely capable.
:50:53. > :50:59.Henrietta Barnet School and the adversity of Cambridge. State school
:51:00. > :51:00.educated, had now of the education Department. Again, plaintive Theresa
:51:01. > :51:05.May's rhetoric. we've just had a referendum
:51:06. > :51:09.in Britain's membership of the EU, it was only three weeks ago,
:51:10. > :51:12.although it might seem longer. But there have been calls from some
:51:13. > :51:15.quarters for a second referendum, from Labour leadership challenger
:51:16. > :51:17.Owen Smith. Later in the year MPs
:51:18. > :51:19.will debate a petition on Parliament's website calling
:51:20. > :51:21.for a second referendum after it was signed by more
:51:22. > :51:23.than four million people. The idea has already been debated
:51:24. > :51:26.in the House of Lords, talking about what she
:51:27. > :51:43.thinks should happen. In the interests of democracy, the
:51:44. > :51:47.British people must be given the chance to vote on the deal to leave
:51:48. > :51:54.the EU once we finally know what that deal is and what that deal
:51:55. > :51:57.costs, in terms of economy, pensions, global influence,
:51:58. > :52:03.geographical borders and last but not least our precious identity as a
:52:04. > :52:08.tolerant, open facing nation. I say, let the people decide.
:52:09. > :52:11.And to discuss the possibility of a second referendum or vote,
:52:12. > :52:14.I'm joined by the Labour MPs David Lammy and Frank Field.
:52:15. > :52:19.David voted to remain in the EU and Frank voted to leave.
:52:20. > :52:24.Is to make that clear. The online petition that calls for a second EU
:52:25. > :52:29.referendum will be debated in parliament, after it was signed by
:52:30. > :52:34.4.1 million people. Why, what is the point, there is not going to be a
:52:35. > :52:38.second referendum? We have a petition process, and actually, that
:52:39. > :52:42.is a record number of people for any petition I think that we have had.
:52:43. > :52:45.In the House of Commons. That is the first thing, people want it, the
:52:46. > :52:53.second thing is to say, there is no plan. When we say Brexit means
:52:54. > :52:57.Brexit, it is not clear what is the plan, there is a number of very
:52:58. > :53:01.morsel leavers who say, we will not get 250 million a week, how can you
:53:02. > :53:15.get free trade without free movement. -- very remorseful
:53:16. > :53:19.leavers. All of this is out there and we should be having a debate and
:53:20. > :53:22.vote in the House of Commons. Let's be clear, the petitions committee
:53:23. > :53:26.said that the debate did not mean that it was supporting the call,
:53:27. > :53:30.rerunning the referendum that we have just had, it was to change to
:53:31. > :53:34.-- too late to change the rules, having a debate is fine, what you
:53:35. > :53:39.are suggesting is having a referendum on the deal all the plan
:53:40. > :53:43.that is then put together, by Theresa May's government, you
:53:44. > :53:45.support that? My primary view is that it should come back to
:53:46. > :53:50.Parliament, there should be no Article 50 without Parliament
:53:51. > :53:55.acting, ultimately, the plan has to come back to Parliament or back to
:53:56. > :53:59.the people. What do you say to that, 4.1 million people, then at people
:54:00. > :54:05.who have buyers were most, and the plan that no one knows what it looks
:54:06. > :54:11.like, why shouldn't Parliament be the body that decides whether we
:54:12. > :54:17.actually trigger Brexit? -- buyers remorse. 17 million voting to come
:54:18. > :54:24.out, not surprisingly people might want another view, but the
:54:25. > :54:26.government has moved on, people may have noticed, the government has
:54:27. > :54:33.shaped itself about implementing the bridge that people wanted in that
:54:34. > :54:36.referendum. -- the pledge. We have the key ministries about how we
:54:37. > :54:42.disengage from the current relationship with Europe to forge a
:54:43. > :54:47.new one. The idea that it is going back on this, that is Coquelin. The
:54:48. > :54:53.government will not go back on this. The referendum result was advisory.
:54:54. > :54:57.That is true. You can say that. It is true. Theresa May does not think
:54:58. > :55:00.it is advisory, she is acting on it, the key first appointments were
:55:01. > :55:04.about implementing the referendum pledge, the idea that it was merely
:55:05. > :55:08.advisory, given the state politics is in and the distrust of
:55:09. > :55:13.politicians, is an absurd idea. David, catch up, it was a decisive
:55:14. > :55:17.vote, you may not like it, 4.1 million people may not like it but
:55:18. > :55:21.it has happened, and the government is moving ahead with trying to turn
:55:22. > :55:25.it, as they would argue, into something positive, there is no
:55:26. > :55:31.going back. You cannot describe a vote in which 67% of those eligible
:55:32. > :55:37.to take part did not vote for it as decisive. 16 million people in
:55:38. > :55:41.Britain did not vote to leave the EU, 13 million people stayed at
:55:42. > :55:45.home, I should imagine they like the status quo. If we want to remain a
:55:46. > :55:51.united country, let's listen to the advice, but recognise that a larger
:55:52. > :55:55.chunk of the country did not go for this, the economy is going south, we
:55:56. > :55:59.have no trade deals with any other country in the world, it will take
:56:00. > :56:03.quite a long time to negotiate them, we should pause and reflect, we
:56:04. > :56:07.should think very carefully about the future of this country, yes,
:56:08. > :56:13.access the advice, but access that many millions of people did not vote
:56:14. > :56:16.for Brexit. Many more than did. Last thing we want to do is pause, a
:56:17. > :56:22.decision has been made, the government is carrying it out, it is
:56:23. > :56:24.crucial that we get on implementing the agenda, the agenda is something
:56:25. > :56:28.different, where the tension is going to be, particularly acute for
:56:29. > :56:33.the Labour Party, the country has voted to leave, overwhelmingly
:56:34. > :56:37.Labour members of Parliament are in favour of staying. That is why David
:56:38. > :56:41.quite rightly says, bring it back to Parliament. Owen Smith, Ligue
:56:42. > :56:47.leadership challenger, he says that he would like a second vote. --
:56:48. > :56:51.leadership challenger. I'm speechless about the idea thinking
:56:52. > :56:54.that is relevant to what is happening at the present time. The
:56:55. > :56:58.key thing would be that the people have voted to come out, and there is
:56:59. > :57:03.a majority in parliament that wants to remain, the tension would be, how
:57:04. > :57:07.does the government manage the exit strategy. We have run out of time, I
:57:08. > :57:11.am afraid. Straight back to Norman Smith to get
:57:12. > :57:20.an update on the cabinet reshuffle. Norman, Jeremy to stay after all,
:57:21. > :57:27.Jeremy Hunt, did we get it wrong, has it been in and out? We got signs
:57:28. > :57:32.saying that he was being sacked and then moving on by his own polishing,
:57:33. > :57:40.then he turned up here, and then he comes out and he says he is staying
:57:41. > :57:45.where he is. -- his own violation. Theresa Villiers was offered another
:57:46. > :57:51.job and said, no, I am leaving, and trying to work out what that could
:57:52. > :57:54.be, perhaps it was Justine Greening, International the, perhaps she did
:57:55. > :58:00.not want to be traipsing around the world. -- volition. The other
:58:01. > :58:06.interesting thing about three civilians, from where I am sitting,
:58:07. > :58:12.I'm not seeing a whole load of women coming in here, as we have been
:58:13. > :58:18.promised. By my counting, she has lost Nicky Morgan, education, and
:58:19. > :58:22.she has lost Theresa Villiers, and I'm not seeing new faces, Amber Rudd
:58:23. > :58:28.was in cabinet, Justine Greening was there, and Liz Truss. I can only
:58:29. > :58:31.presume that we are going to see a lot of women this afternoon if
:58:32. > :58:35.Theresa May is going to meet her pledge to have a record number of
:58:36. > :58:39.women in this cabinet. We are going to leave it there and we are going
:58:40. > :58:44.to leave you looking for the women... (!) it is a job that
:58:45. > :58:47.somebody has to do... It is a safe job in your hands! LAUGHTER
:58:48. > :58:50.We look forward to updates throughout the afternoon.
:58:51. > :58:58.We did not have time to bring you our cartoonist, we simply ran out of
:58:59. > :59:02.time. Cartoons are always fun and we wanted to talk about how the
:59:03. > :59:06.cartoonist were going to depict Theresa May, we will have plenty of
:59:07. > :59:09.time to do that in the weeks and months ahead.
:59:10. > :59:12.The One O'Clock News is starting over on BBC One now.
:59:13. > :59:16.but I will be here at 11.45 pm for This Week
:59:17. > :59:17.with Alan Johnson, Michael Portillo, Alan Rosen,
:59:18. > :59:24.And I'll be here at noon tomorrow with all the big political stories