:00:36. > :00:39.Hello and welcome to the Daily Politics.
:00:40. > :00:41.Theresa May leaves Downing Street for her first
:00:42. > :00:46.what will be her approach to taking on Jeremy Corbyn?
:00:47. > :00:51.We'll bring that live and uninterrupted.
:00:52. > :00:55.travels to Berlin to meet the world's most powerful woman.
:00:56. > :00:59.Brexit will surely dominate that conversation,
:01:00. > :01:02.will it dominate Theresa May's Premiership too?
:01:03. > :01:12.leaving Owen Smith to go head-to-head with Jeremy Corbyn
:01:13. > :01:16.But is he Citizen Smith or oily Owen?
:01:17. > :01:19.And Boris gets a lesson in diplomacy from the America's top diplomat.
:01:20. > :01:36.We intend to make good things happen. Just stop there. It is
:01:37. > :01:41.called diplomacy. LAUGHTER Yes, it is going well, John.
:01:42. > :01:43.Characteristic start for Boris Johnson there are, in the world of
:01:44. > :01:45.diplomacy. All that in the next hour a a half
:01:46. > :01:49.and with us for the whole of the programme today
:01:50. > :01:52.from Labour's Shadow Cabinet, Cat Smith, who is a close ally
:01:53. > :01:56.of Jeremy Corbyn, and the newly appointed Housing Minister,
:01:57. > :01:59.Gavin Barwell. So, in half an hour Theresa May
:02:00. > :02:02.will come to despatch box for her very first
:02:03. > :02:04.Prime Minister's Questions and we'll find out how she'll
:02:05. > :02:06.handle Jeremy Corbyn. But a week into her premiership
:02:07. > :02:09.what do we already know about the priorities
:02:10. > :02:11.of a Theresa May government? In her first speech outside
:02:12. > :02:17.Downing Street last week, Theresa May put a heavy emphasis
:02:18. > :02:19.on social justice. She highlighted the lack
:02:20. > :02:21.of opportunity for white working the difficulty for young people
:02:22. > :02:25.trying to own their first home, and families that
:02:26. > :02:27."have a job" but "don't Yesterday at her first Cabinet
:02:28. > :02:31.meeting, the new Prime Minister underlined that agenda,
:02:32. > :02:33.saying her government will not be In her speech she stressed her
:02:34. > :02:46.commitment to the Union, so she made it a priority to visit
:02:47. > :02:49.the First Minister of Scotland, Nicola Sturgeon, and the first
:02:50. > :02:51.Minister of Wales, Carwyn Jones She now turns her attention
:02:52. > :02:56.to international leaders. US Secretary of State John Kerry
:02:57. > :02:58.was in London yesterday. And within hours of taking
:02:59. > :03:00.over at Number 10, Theresa May spoke to
:03:01. > :03:03.President Hollande of France and Chancellor Merkel of Germany
:03:04. > :03:08.on the phone, to prepare for the
:03:09. > :03:12.formal negotiations, but after PMQs this afternoon
:03:13. > :03:14.she will be off to Berlin for her first foreign trip to meet
:03:15. > :03:30.Mrs Merkel face to face. Theresa May wants to put social
:03:31. > :03:33.justice at the centre of her premiership, the sort of reform she
:03:34. > :03:37.is talking about, widening university access, improving
:03:38. > :03:42.homeownership, something you will be focusing upon, how will it be
:03:43. > :03:45.funded? On housing front, in my area, the last conference of
:03:46. > :03:48.spending review with double the budget, a couple of things we need
:03:49. > :03:51.to do on the housing front, first build more homes in this country,
:03:52. > :03:55.across parties there is a consensus that under governments of all kinds,
:03:56. > :04:02.we have not been building of homes. Also make sure that as we heard
:04:03. > :04:05.outside of number ten, young people getting onto the housing ladder.
:04:06. > :04:11.More money spent. Big starter project under way, lots of work that
:04:12. > :04:15.we want to progress. It is really important that if we can work hard,
:04:16. > :04:18.ordinary decent jobs, then we get a chance to get them onto the housing
:04:19. > :04:22.ladder. So you want the government to spend more money to create these
:04:23. > :04:31.reforms. The government is in favour of that, spending was doubled. The
:04:32. > :04:34.deficit was higher than forecast, by ?2 billion, and the IMF, among
:04:35. > :04:42.others, are downgrading expectations for UK growth in light of the
:04:43. > :04:49.referendum bud, fewer tax receipts and less money. -- referendum vote.
:04:50. > :04:52.We have not seen data yet, the Chancellor of the Exchequer has
:04:53. > :04:56.said, in terms of fiscal strategy, that we are not going to be aiming
:04:57. > :05:00.to achieve a surplus in 2020 but as I said there is already resource,
:05:01. > :05:04.there is things we can do to make others make a contribution, we have
:05:05. > :05:07.consulted on the idea that when developers build out a development,
:05:08. > :05:13.20% of homes they develop could be starter homes, they could be sold
:05:14. > :05:16.only to first-time buyers, at a 20% reduction, it is not just about what
:05:17. > :05:20.the government spends, we can look at what other people can do to
:05:21. > :05:25.achieve that. You may need that. Interesting new raise the idea of
:05:26. > :05:28.abandoning plans to reach a budget surplus, which George Osborne wanted
:05:29. > :05:34.to do, it has been dumped by Theresa May, despite the downgrading by the
:05:35. > :05:37.IMF, she wants to put growth at the front before deficit reduction, so
:05:38. > :05:41.in your mind, the deficit must go up, and continue to go up, it has
:05:42. > :05:45.gone up already, if more money must be spent, then the deficit will go
:05:46. > :05:49.up, perhaps the short term, to pay for this. The government is still
:05:50. > :05:54.committed to deficit reduction but the issue is about whether you go on
:05:55. > :05:58.to achieve a surplus by 2020. We are in a much stronger position than
:05:59. > :06:04.2010, the deficit has been reduced significantly. It has not been
:06:05. > :06:08.eliminated. It is still ?74 billion. The government cannot spend loads
:06:09. > :06:12.more money without funding it. If you cannot spend more money to fund
:06:13. > :06:16.reforms and you do not want the deficit to come down... I blame, in
:06:17. > :06:20.the spending review we had last year, George Osborne doubled the
:06:21. > :06:23.housing budget, there is funding in the government plans already in that
:06:24. > :06:29.area... Not just housing. Important thing to stress, when we set out the
:06:30. > :06:32.fiscal strategy in the first place, we gave ourselves room to adjust the
:06:33. > :06:36.strategy if there was a shock, the decision we took on the 23rd of June
:06:37. > :06:40.is a big change to the economic policy. Taking advantage of the
:06:41. > :06:44.flexibility. The Chancellor has made it clear, still an objective to
:06:45. > :06:47.bring down the deficit is not what some other areas, keen to talk about
:06:48. > :06:51.housing, that is your brief, teachers have been out on strike,
:06:52. > :06:55.most of that has been on funding, spending per pupil is falling by 8%
:06:56. > :07:01.over the parliament. That is according to the Institute for
:07:02. > :07:05.Fiscal Studies. Should that cut be halted? As a government we will look
:07:06. > :07:07.at the next budget, and all of the spending priorities, what I would
:07:08. > :07:10.say to you, there is lots of things we can do to address those problems,
:07:11. > :07:15.at the moment we are looking for national funding to come in. --
:07:16. > :07:17.waiting for. Some parts of the country have had education funding
:07:18. > :07:22.level that have been... Should London received less money in terms
:07:23. > :07:26.of education because traditionally it has personal had more funding
:07:27. > :07:29.than other parts of the country? It is not necessarily a London against
:07:30. > :07:33.the rest of the country area, many of us in outer London would say that
:07:34. > :07:37.we have been disadvantaged relative to in London, but what is right is
:07:38. > :07:42.to have a fair national funding... You have not answered the question,
:07:43. > :07:44.is it going to fall because the previous Conservative government
:07:45. > :07:49.pledged commitment to education spending increasing, the below that
:07:50. > :07:52.may have increased very slightly, but per-pupil funding is going to
:07:53. > :07:57.fall, because of the increased number of pupils, is that something
:07:58. > :08:01.that should be stopped? Long term, the government is going to have to
:08:02. > :08:06.make decisions about spending priorities. Should education be one
:08:07. > :08:09.of them? That is not the media decide, what is vital is that we
:08:10. > :08:12.look at the overall priorities we have in government and we cannot, we
:08:13. > :08:16.are not in a position where we can afford to increase the deficit, the
:08:17. > :08:20.commitment to continuing to bring down the deficit is there a. That
:08:21. > :08:24.will probably continue, as it stands, more pupils, per-pupil
:08:25. > :08:27.spending will fall? The government will always keep the different
:08:28. > :08:31.spending budgets under review, that is for the new cabinet to decide, I
:08:32. > :08:35.cannot answer that question. You will have some input. We are not in
:08:36. > :08:38.a position where we can begin spending money that is not funded,
:08:39. > :08:44.we must continue to bring down the deficit. Health, the Chief Executive
:08:45. > :08:48.of NHS England, Simon Stevens, yesterday said that some GP
:08:49. > :08:53.practices and hospital facilities are overcrowded and clapped-out
:08:54. > :09:00.buildings, in need of a makeover, capital investment is needed, should
:09:01. > :09:05.he get it? That is not a decision that -- that is not a decision I can
:09:06. > :09:09.take. Education or health? Health has been a major priorities in 2010.
:09:10. > :09:12.There has been a significant increase. There is still overcrowded
:09:13. > :09:17.and clapped-out buildings in need of a makeover, NHS hospitals in England
:09:18. > :09:21.are operating on a 2.45 billion deficit, some might say that you
:09:22. > :09:25.have not been focusing. There is a waste going to be people saying that
:09:26. > :09:31.there is more that can be done. Billion deficit, that is a very big
:09:32. > :09:37.deficit. There has been a very significant real terms injection of
:09:38. > :09:41.money into the NHS. -- two .45 billions pounds deficit. What can be
:09:42. > :09:45.achieved for efficiency, and George Osborne put in more than the figure
:09:46. > :09:48.that he was asking for. That clearly, undeniably, has been a very
:09:49. > :09:52.significant priority for the government. -- 2.45 billion.
:09:53. > :09:54.Obviously there is still a black hole, according to the man who
:09:55. > :10:00.should know, Simon Stephens, he also wants assurances about NHS staff
:10:01. > :10:04.from other EU countries, in the Grexit world we are now living.
:10:05. > :10:07.Should they get those assurances about whether they will be able to
:10:08. > :10:12.stay? The government has made it clear that we fully spec EU citizens
:10:13. > :10:17.in this country to enjoy... You expect but cannot guarantee? I think
:10:18. > :10:22.we have got to think about both situations, people in this country,
:10:23. > :10:26.have been here, making a big contribution to public services and
:10:27. > :10:30.the economy and the communities. -- fully expect. We also have British
:10:31. > :10:32.citizens in other EU countries, one of the key thing is that the Prime
:10:33. > :10:36.Minister and the government as a whole need to achieve as part of the
:10:37. > :10:41.negotiation getting under way is secure both of those people's
:10:42. > :10:47.rights. Do you accept the "Brexit" result, and the world that we are
:10:48. > :10:50.operating in? It is important to accept the result of the referendum
:10:51. > :10:53.and I think as a country, we need to make sure that we negotiate an exit
:10:54. > :10:59.that is the exit that the British people want. And what was that? I
:11:00. > :11:03.don't think the British people voted to stop universities working across
:11:04. > :11:07.Europe, and research project, and I don't think the vote was a rejection
:11:08. > :11:12.of the single market, I think that the referendum was absolutely fought
:11:13. > :11:16.on issues around immigration, that is the conversation we should be
:11:17. > :11:21.having. What do you think should happen to levels of migration? I
:11:22. > :11:25.think the concern that I certainly heard from my constituency voted out
:11:26. > :11:29.was a lot to do with job security, something that Theresa May has said.
:11:30. > :11:34.What about levels of migration, the numbers, that is what a lot of
:11:35. > :11:37.people want to know. The levels of migration itself was not something I
:11:38. > :11:42.had raised with me. What you they should be? We need to make sure that
:11:43. > :11:47.we have a level of migration that means we can run public services, we
:11:48. > :11:51.need to accept that the NHS needs to have EU workers, EU nurses, working
:11:52. > :11:54.in hospitals, doctors, we need the best and brightest from around the
:11:55. > :11:58.world. Hundreds of thousands or tens of thousands? I'm not going to put a
:11:59. > :12:03.number on that, that is something that as a country we need to look at
:12:04. > :12:12.with the facts. We need to speak with Simon Segars, around how
:12:13. > :12:16.many... You accept the Brexit vote was about immigration. Yes, it was
:12:17. > :12:21.about levels of immigration. -- Simon Stephens. Shouldn't the Labour
:12:22. > :12:26.Party have a number in terms of immigration, if that is what people
:12:27. > :12:29.were voting upon? The number itself is not important, people need to
:12:30. > :12:33.know that their jobs are secure and wages will not be undercut but we
:12:34. > :12:37.have levels of migration which means that we can deliver the world-class
:12:38. > :12:41.NHS that we all know and love. Perhaps you do not want to give a
:12:42. > :12:44.figure because it is difficult to keep to the figure, as we have
:12:45. > :12:49.experienced under a Conservative government, tens of thousands, when
:12:50. > :12:53.Theresa May was Home Secretary was not achieved by any margin. While
:12:54. > :12:57.you are within the EU single market with freedom of movement and given
:12:58. > :13:00.that our economy has been performing, latest job figures out,
:13:01. > :13:03.another fall in the people out of work, while you are in the single
:13:04. > :13:08.market and the economy is doing very well and the Eurozone less well,
:13:09. > :13:13.clearly it has not been possible to achieve the commitment. Why are you
:13:14. > :13:16.continuing tens of thousands as a target? As a country we have taken
:13:17. > :13:20.the decision to leave the EU, we will not be able to do it
:13:21. > :13:24.immediately, we will not be leaving... What is the level of
:13:25. > :13:31.non-EU migration as it stand? There is further action... It is 150,000.
:13:32. > :13:34.It is not just that, there are concerns about infrastructure,
:13:35. > :13:38.keeping up with population growth, there are concerns about integration
:13:39. > :13:41.into societies, a range of issues around immigration, not just
:13:42. > :13:45.numbers, you cannot say that numbers are not a part of it. Ayew clear
:13:46. > :13:51.that the government must stick to the number of tens of thousands?
:13:52. > :13:53.Boris Johnson and Amber Rudd are refusing to state or restate that
:13:54. > :13:59.commitment. Yes, we made a promise, we must be honest, while we are
:14:00. > :14:02.still in the EU, we will not be able to achieve that given free movement,
:14:03. > :14:07.but the longer term objective should be to achieve that. Boris Johnson
:14:08. > :14:11.said that we should not have a target at all because it will result
:14:12. > :14:14.in disappointing people. I stood on a manifesto, the policy of the
:14:15. > :14:18.government, we should be looking to achieve that. Should ministers in
:14:19. > :14:21.the government be restating what the policy is? And the ten has made it
:14:22. > :14:26.clear that we are committed to the target. They should make it clear,
:14:27. > :14:31.as Foreign Secretary and Home Secretary. We should be clear, about
:14:32. > :14:32.the government objective. -- as Foreign Secretary and Home
:14:33. > :14:45.Secretary. She wanted to land the top
:14:46. > :14:48.job in Labour politics but in the end the Eagle
:14:49. > :14:53.didn't even take off. Last night Angela Eagle pulled out
:14:54. > :14:56.of the Labour leadership contest, leaving the way clear
:14:57. > :14:58.for her colleague Owen Smith to go head to head with
:14:59. > :15:00.Jeremy Corbyn. This morning Owen Smith's
:15:01. > :15:02.been touring the TV studios I've grown up in the Labour
:15:03. > :15:13.movement, I understand what we're We want a more equal, socially just,
:15:14. > :15:17.economically fair society. We want everybody to have
:15:18. > :15:19.opportunities. But we've got to have
:15:20. > :15:21.concrete ideas to do that. What we need to be great at
:15:22. > :15:28.is solutions. You know, yes, we're anti-austerity,
:15:29. > :15:31.but what does that mean? It means we've got to be
:15:32. > :15:33.pro-prosperity for everybody, It means we need to invest
:15:34. > :15:36.in this country, so I'm saying let's
:15:37. > :15:38.have a British new deal. We're joined now
:15:39. > :15:40.by the Labour MP Chris Bryant, who is an Owen Smith supporter,
:15:41. > :15:52.and Cat Smith is still here. Owen Smith is not going to win, is
:15:53. > :16:03.he? Already we have seen polling that suggest Jeremy Corbyn is 56% to
:16:04. > :16:06.Owen's 36, is it? Only 30% of Labour members said they had even heard of
:16:07. > :16:11.Owen Smith, he has got a mountain to climb. You have already decided who
:16:12. > :16:17.is going to win, and I don't think it's like that. The numbers indicate
:16:18. > :16:20.that. Opinion polls, before it was known who the candidate was going to
:16:21. > :16:25.be, probably not a very good guide to what the eventual result will be.
:16:26. > :16:30.In my constituency party, we had a meeting ten days ago, there were new
:16:31. > :16:33.members of the Labour Party who joined a year ago, I had never met
:16:34. > :16:37.them before, I have spoken to them on a fun, but many of them are
:16:38. > :16:41.saying, I joined the party to support Jeremy Corbyn but it is not
:16:42. > :16:48.working, we are not a credible opposition with Jeremy as leader,
:16:49. > :16:51.and I think he should go. So I think the Labour Party is changing very
:16:52. > :16:56.rapidly, and I think people will want to take a long, hard look at
:16:57. > :17:00.where the party is, and in the end it is either continuity Corbyn, with
:17:01. > :17:03.all the problems of the last ten months, not able to mount a proper
:17:04. > :17:08.opposition, or press the recent button with a new leader. That is an
:17:09. > :17:11.important point, the idea that it is not a credible opposition is
:17:12. > :17:15.something Jeremy Corbyn was passionate about, he criticised the
:17:16. > :17:22.Neil Kinnock for not being credible, John Smith for not being credible
:17:23. > :17:25.opposition, so when the accusation comes from 172 of his own MPs, he is
:17:26. > :17:30.in trouble. There is no denying that the Labour Party is not punching as
:17:31. > :17:34.it should be against the Government right now, we are not doing our job,
:17:35. > :17:39.holding the Government to account. I would agree with you on that, but it
:17:40. > :17:43.really does need the Labour Party in Westminster to come together to make
:17:44. > :17:49.that happen, and what we have seen... The specific allegation is
:17:50. > :17:52.that it is Jeremy Corbyn who was not the effective opposition. Politics
:17:53. > :17:57.is never about one person, it is about policies and ideas and the
:17:58. > :18:00.collective, and that is a very important part of the Labour
:18:01. > :18:07.movement. Me and Chris both have so much that we agree on, and if we
:18:08. > :18:11.work together, we are more powerful. Sorry, I did not want to talk over
:18:12. > :18:15.you, but what is absolutely right is that we need to be a team, but you
:18:16. > :18:19.need to have a leader who is building a team, and I desperately
:18:20. > :18:23.wanted to make it work with Jeremy when you asked me to be in his
:18:24. > :18:27.Shadow Cabinet, but I sat in meeting after meeting and said, in meeting
:18:28. > :18:32.after meeting we have to put a much more convincing case on Europe in
:18:33. > :18:39.the referendum, and a speech after speech that Jeremy Naylor undermined
:18:40. > :18:43.the campaign. He is not able to deliver that opposition, and he
:18:44. > :18:47.never crafts a team. Isn't the fact that he helped not been able to
:18:48. > :18:50.build it yet and will not be able to build it now? I would disagree, I
:18:51. > :18:56.think the strength of the Labour Party is with our members, and over
:18:57. > :18:59.250,000 of them did vote for Jeremy Corbyn, and some of those will have
:19:00. > :19:03.changed their mind, as Chris pointed out earlier, but many more people
:19:04. > :19:08.have come into the party because they feel inspired by the idea is
:19:09. > :19:12.that he has put forward, and we have changed the party and his
:19:13. > :19:15.leadership, and we are now an anti-austerity party, and I believe
:19:16. > :19:20.that we connect much more easily with our electors and on the
:19:21. > :19:25.doorstep those conversations are a whole lot easier. But the idea that
:19:26. > :19:31.he is inspiring, whips in your party nominated Owen Smith, people on the
:19:32. > :19:35.front bench nominated Owen Smith. They clearly do not think, and I
:19:36. > :19:38.have heard this from one of your colleagues, referring to Owen Smith
:19:39. > :19:44.as Blair likes - so anyone who does not agree with Jeremy is a Blairite?
:19:45. > :19:49.I find that term really an helpful, Blairite. He has left front line
:19:50. > :19:55.politics for all the time I have been active. I joined the party
:19:56. > :20:01.under Blair, but he left shortly afterwards. No cause there! But I
:20:02. > :20:06.think we need to move on as a party and drop that term, Blairite. Chris,
:20:07. > :20:11.supporters are trying to move on from something they think does not
:20:12. > :20:17.work. We are all trying to move on from that, and we are in a different
:20:18. > :20:20.space than we were back in 2006, when Blair left. I don't think
:20:21. > :20:24.Jeremy can do it, that is the difference between us. I accept that
:20:25. > :20:29.we have to press the reset button, we cannot be the party we were 15
:20:30. > :20:32.years ago, because the world has moved on. There are massive issues
:20:33. > :20:37.we need to take on now, following the Brexit vote and so on, and we
:20:38. > :20:42.have got to listen hard to what voters said during that campaign, in
:20:43. > :20:46.the forgotten part of this country, what feels like the left side parts
:20:47. > :20:50.of this country, which includes my own constituency in the Rhondda. I
:20:51. > :20:56.think Owen is ideally suited to do that job, but what he can do which
:20:57. > :21:01.Jeremy cannot is unite the party. What unifies both of you is that you
:21:02. > :21:04.are in a real Catch-22. Jeremy Corbyn cannot control the Labour
:21:05. > :21:07.Party as it is at the moment in Parliament, he has a real problem
:21:08. > :21:11.with that, and you cannot necessarily find a candidate who can
:21:12. > :21:16.defeat that overwhelming majority of members who wanted Jeremy Corbyn.
:21:17. > :21:22.You are both stuck in a party that is in crisis. I'm not sure that is
:21:23. > :21:27.right, because I think Owen can and will win this election. Lots of
:21:28. > :21:30.people do not yet know him, lots of Labour members, but what they have
:21:31. > :21:34.seen of him they like. I think they will be convinced, that we need to
:21:35. > :21:41.move on, that we can take the fight to this chap... Who was Bobby
:21:42. > :21:47.sitting here enjoy all of this! It is not good for the country not to
:21:48. > :21:52.have an effective opposition. There are so few people left on the Labour
:21:53. > :21:55.front bench that they cannot form an effective opposition. It is
:21:56. > :21:58.important that we are a Parliamentary democracy, it is not
:21:59. > :22:03.just about the leader, it is about being able to create a whole team.
:22:04. > :22:07.Owen can build a whole team which is an alternative government in
:22:08. > :22:12.waiting. I want to get Cat in on this, he has threatened, if he does
:22:13. > :22:16.not win, I know you don't want to accept that possibility, but the
:22:17. > :22:21.Labour Party could split. He hasn't said that. Would it be his fault if
:22:22. > :22:25.it did? No, I said to Jeremy in the conversations I had with him, you
:22:26. > :22:31.are the only person who can break this logjam. But I think that Owen,
:22:32. > :22:35.by taking the Labour Party and building a team of people that
:22:36. > :22:39.includes people of diverse opinions, and I think Cat is right, there is
:22:40. > :22:46.no point talking about Blairite and Brownite, although Sterns. It is
:22:47. > :22:52.another millennium, frankly. -- all those terms. He said that split was
:22:53. > :22:56.a dangerously real threat. It is not anything that I would want to see,
:22:57. > :23:00.because it is a fact of life in our parliamentary system that if you
:23:01. > :23:06.want to form a government, you have to be a broad coalition. Cat, he was
:23:07. > :23:10.offered the post of president of the Labour Party by Owen Smith, why
:23:11. > :23:14.wouldn't he take that? Jeremy has never wanted a grand title, that is
:23:15. > :23:18.not why he ran to be leader of the Labour Party, he ran because he had
:23:19. > :23:22.ideas to change lives. Some honorary position... Does he want the grand
:23:23. > :23:27.title of Prime Minister, does he think he can get it? I don't think
:23:28. > :23:31.he craves the personal glory of office, if you would - it is more
:23:32. > :23:35.about being able to effect change, which is what the Labour Party is
:23:36. > :23:39.about. I have been knocking on doors for the Labour Party under four
:23:40. > :23:44.leaders, and whoever wins this election, and we do not know what
:23:45. > :23:50.the outcome will be, I will serve the leader of the Labour Party,
:23:51. > :23:55.because I am a Labour MP. You cannot change lives unless you are in
:23:56. > :23:59.government, and I do not think Jeremy is capable of that. You
:24:00. > :24:04.always wanted the last word, and you got it, Chris Bryant! Don't do that
:24:05. > :24:06.base! Why not?! Now, our guest of the day,
:24:07. > :24:08.Gavin Barwell, is the newly appointed
:24:09. > :24:09.Housing Minister, and he takes up his post in the
:24:10. > :24:13.midst of a serious housing crisis. I speak of course of the shortage
:24:14. > :24:15.of grace-and-favour country houses which means that
:24:16. > :24:17.Chevening House in Kent will have be shared by the
:24:18. > :24:20.Foreign Secretary, Boris Johnson, and the International
:24:21. > :24:27.Trade Secretary, Liam Fox. The three will somehow
:24:28. > :24:29.have to squeeze into the 115-room
:24:30. > :24:33.Grade II listed mansion, and, more serious, word has reached
:24:34. > :24:37.us here on the Daily Politics that there may not be enough
:24:38. > :24:41.cups and saucers to go round for all three of Her Majesty's
:24:42. > :24:43.Secretaries of State to enjoy afternoon tea
:24:44. > :24:46.at the same time. But don't panic,
:24:47. > :24:48.Boris, David and Liam. If you keep watching,
:24:49. > :24:51.there will be no need to turn a housing crisis
:24:52. > :24:58.into a crockery crisis. We'll tell you how
:24:59. > :25:00.to enter in a moment, but first, can you tell us
:25:01. > :25:04.when this happened? A new political party will be
:25:05. > :25:06.launched tomorrow, # Baby, you and me got
:25:07. > :25:19.a groovy kind of love... # # I should be so lucky,
:25:20. > :25:23.lucky, lucky, lucky # I should be so lucky,
:25:24. > :25:33.lucky, lucky, lucky... # # We'll be together, nobody ain't
:25:34. > :25:38.never gonna disconnect us # Or ever separate us or
:25:39. > :25:44.say to us you've got to stop # Stand there where you are
:25:45. > :25:46.before you go too far # Before you make
:25:47. > :25:50.a fool of love... # # Don't turn around cos you can
:25:51. > :25:55.see my heart breaking # Don't turn around,
:25:56. > :26:00.I don't want you seeing me crying # Just walk away, it's tearing me
:26:01. > :26:05.apart that you're leaving... # Mr Paisley, I now exclude
:26:06. > :26:35.you from this house! Everyone who comes into this studio
:26:36. > :26:37.says, can we keep it?! No, you can't!
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:26:49. > :26:58.You read that very well, that is normally my peace!
:26:59. > :27:02.It's coming up to midday here - just take a look at Big Ben -
:27:03. > :27:05.and that can mean only one thing, yes, Prime Minister's Questions -
:27:06. > :27:06.Theresa May's first Prime Minister's Questions -
:27:07. > :27:09.and as it is her first, we thought we would remind you
:27:10. > :27:11.of how her predecessors dealt with their first appearances
:27:12. > :27:18.at the despatch box as Prime Minister.
:27:19. > :27:25.When the new Prime Minister arrives to the fervent jeers of a
:27:26. > :27:32.Conservative Party, just relieved to have the whole messy business of the
:27:33. > :27:39.succession over... Sits down, please!
:27:40. > :27:47.Now, wait a while. Will he accept that the populist taxi proposals on
:27:48. > :27:54.fat cats would in fact be a tax that hits most those who have least? I
:27:55. > :27:58.shall resist the temptation to say that was the sound bite since I
:27:59. > :28:04.know... Since I have IP link are used to use a few of those myself at
:28:05. > :28:12.one time! -- I have a feeling. I have been in this job for five
:28:13. > :28:16.days... In our happy coalition, they will have the right to abstain on
:28:17. > :28:21.it, and in terms of the grand, I do not have a specific answer for
:28:22. > :28:22.her... It is a funny old thing, I will give accurate answers, rather
:28:23. > :28:25.than make them up on the spot! And for his first PMQ's appearance
:28:26. > :28:34.on the Daily Politics sofa as deputy political editor,
:28:35. > :28:42.we're joined by John Pienaar. Welcome, what about the style of
:28:43. > :28:45.Theresa May, what are you expecting? It will be very different from
:28:46. > :28:49.anything we have seen and David Cameron's era. When it comes to the
:28:50. > :28:53.joust across the floor, we are used to the rapier as the weapon of
:28:54. > :28:56.choice, the flashing blade, quick one-liners. We will have to get used
:28:57. > :29:03.to something quite different. Their weapon of choice, to torture this
:29:04. > :29:08.analogy, is the mace and chain. Traditional weapon, then! She will
:29:09. > :29:11.be looking to land a blow or two, Jeremy Corbyn has to joust a bit, it
:29:12. > :29:15.is not just her first appearance, it is the last before the recess, and
:29:16. > :29:20.you get that kind of jousting going on on this occasion. I am told she
:29:21. > :29:24.has one two lines in a back pocket, which I am also told that she dreamt
:29:25. > :29:32.up herself. You didn't have speech writers with her overnight? She has
:29:33. > :29:34.her team, the chief of staff, a policy adviser was there, Alex
:29:35. > :29:38.Dawson, and her Parliamentary aide, all around the table, drilling her
:29:39. > :29:41.for questions, not playing roles, as we have seen in the past, but just
:29:42. > :29:46.checking questions that she can bat away in the way that she does. But
:29:47. > :29:55.she is not lightning fast, low like a butterfly, sting like a be dumb
:29:56. > :29:59.act bee. I think she will be a swinging mace, so when Jeremy Corbyn
:30:00. > :30:03.engages, she will swing, he will be lit. Difficult for Jeremy Corbyn
:30:04. > :30:07.across the despatch box, because he always wanted a less combative
:30:08. > :30:14.style, will it be harder to perform that kind of swimming tarmac
:30:15. > :30:18.swinging mace at him when he is less fiery? Yeah, the first point is, it
:30:19. > :30:21.is as interesting to watch the leaders and their relationship with
:30:22. > :30:25.backbenchers as anything across the chamber. He is on the line, his
:30:26. > :30:26.leadership and authority is on the line. Theresa May could not be more
:30:27. > :31:15.secure. We will cover a number of pressing
:31:16. > :31:16.international issues and tomorrow I shall visit Paris for some of the
:31:17. > :31:27.discussions with Francois Hollande. , Warmly welcome the Prime Minister
:31:28. > :31:35.to her place and can I also ask, given her unwavering commitment to
:31:36. > :31:39.deliver economic stability and national security, in our United
:31:40. > :31:42.Kingdom's interest, does she welcome Monday's emphatic vote in this house
:31:43. > :32:06.for the Trident successor programme? Can I thank my honourable friend for
:32:07. > :32:12.his kind remarks, and thank him for enthusiastic the welcoming the
:32:13. > :32:16.debate in this house to renew the nuclear deterrent, showing that we
:32:17. > :32:19.have not only committed to our own national security but also consider
:32:20. > :32:25.the security of our European and Nato allies. We can now get on with
:32:26. > :32:33.the essential job of renewing our nuclear deterrent, and can I thank
:32:34. > :32:40.those on 140 Labour members of Parliament, who put the national
:32:41. > :32:46.interest first. And who voted to renew the nuclear deterrent. Jeremy
:32:47. > :32:49.Corbyn. Thank you, Mr Speaker, can I welcome the right honourable member
:32:50. > :32:53.to her first PMQs, and congratulate her on her appointment and becoming
:32:54. > :32:58.the country's second woman Prime Minister. I hope that she will agree
:32:59. > :33:01.with me that this house and prime ministers Question Time should be an
:33:02. > :33:08.opportunity to debate seriously the issues that face our country and our
:33:09. > :33:11.place in the world. On the steps of Downing Street, she spoke very
:33:12. > :33:17.eloquently about fighting burning injustice... Yet, her last act as
:33:18. > :33:26.Home Secretary was to shut the Orgreave enquiry into the long
:33:27. > :33:31.grass. -- shove. The IPCC told Home Office officials that if it
:33:32. > :33:35.announced any action to set up an enquiry or any other investigation
:33:36. > :33:39.to investigate Orgreave, it would impact the Hillsborough
:33:40. > :33:43.investigation, that has been disputed, was Parliament misled?
:33:44. > :33:50.Will the Prime Minister now proceed with a full public enquiry into the
:33:51. > :33:53.terrible events at Orgreave? Can I thank the right honourable gentleman
:33:54. > :33:58.for the welcome that he has given me, can I say to him, he refers to
:33:59. > :34:02.me as the second woman Prime Minister, in my years here in my
:34:03. > :34:07.house, I have long had the Labour Party asking what the Conservative
:34:08. > :34:18.Party does for women... LAUGHTER SHOUTING
:34:19. > :34:23.I welcome the comments he has made about prime ministers, we do make
:34:24. > :34:26.serious issues, I look forward to the exchanges that he and I will
:34:27. > :34:34.have and I hope that we will be having them over this dispatch box
:34:35. > :34:40.for many years to come! CHEERING As regards the Orgreave enquiry, the
:34:41. > :34:43.Shadow Home Secretary has an urgent question on that this afternoon,
:34:44. > :34:49.which the Home Secretary will be responding to. Jeremy Corbyn. The
:34:50. > :34:52.new Prime Minister also said on the steps of Downing Street,
:34:53. > :35:00." if you are young you will find it harder than ever before to own your
:35:01. > :35:05.own home". In 1998, more than half of working households of people aged
:35:06. > :35:09.16 to 34 were buying their own homes, now it is 25%, the resolution
:35:10. > :35:16.foundation suggests this wilful to 10% in the next nine years. What
:35:17. > :35:22.figure has the Prime Minister set herself for home ownership among
:35:23. > :35:25.young people? I know the timeline that has been referred to, he may
:35:26. > :35:31.have forgotten that during that period we had 13 years of a Labour
:35:32. > :35:35.government. 13 years of a Labour government which had a very bad
:35:36. > :35:39.record in terms of house-building. This is the government that is going
:35:40. > :35:43.to change that, this government is going to put more into building more
:35:44. > :35:44.homes, to ensure that young people do have a better opportunity to get
:35:45. > :35:49.on the housing ladder. That is why we are a government that
:35:50. > :35:55.will be governing for everybody in this country. CHEERING
:35:56. > :35:58.That Labour government put a decent house standard in place in every
:35:59. > :36:05.part of this country. -- home standard. I am not sure... SHOUTING
:36:06. > :36:07.I am not sure, Mr Speaker, that starter homes
:36:08. > :36:13.at ?450,000 for young people earning 7% less than their parents
:36:14. > :36:18.generation is actually a very good prospect for people owning their own
:36:19. > :36:21.homes. The Prime Minister is rightly concerned, Mr Speaker, she said
:36:22. > :36:25.this, if you are black you are treated more harshly than if you are
:36:26. > :36:28.white. Before appointing her new Foreign Secretary, did she discuss
:36:29. > :36:35.with him his description of black people as you can in these and why
:36:36. > :36:46.he questioned the motives of the US president, Barack Obama, on his part
:36:47. > :36:55.Kenyan heritage? -- like people as piccaninnies. I have sat on these
:36:56. > :36:59.benches and heard him raise that with the right honourable friend for
:37:00. > :37:03.Whitney, when he was Prime Minister, on a number of occasions. Let nukes
:37:04. > :37:06.blamed this, if you look at house prices across the country, they
:37:07. > :37:12.vary, in Liverpool, the average house price is ?116,000, in London,
:37:13. > :37:18.the average house price is just over ?676,000. That is why we have a
:37:19. > :37:23.higher limit for the starter home figure in London, if he objects to
:37:24. > :37:26.that, he needs to tell his constituents why he is against them
:37:27. > :37:33.having opportunities to get on the housing market? He refers to the
:37:34. > :37:36.remarks that I made, and it is correct, if you are black you will
:37:37. > :37:39.be treated more harshly in the criminal justice system, it is
:37:40. > :37:47.exactly why, as Home Secretary, I dealt with the issue of stop and
:37:48. > :37:50.search, I was concerned to make sure that nobody should be stopped and
:37:51. > :37:54.searched on the streets of this country because of the colour of
:37:55. > :38:03.their skin. I did that as a conservative, 13 years of Labour did
:38:04. > :38:05.nothing on it. Jeremy Corbyn. My question was about the language used
:38:06. > :38:12.by the Foreign Secretary, earlier this week, the new Chancellor
:38:13. > :38:16.abandoned the budget surplus target. As Labour has long called for. Her
:38:17. > :38:22.government is already missing targets on debt, deficit, welfare
:38:23. > :38:27.count and productivity. Six years of government austerity has failed. The
:38:28. > :38:35.long-term economic plan is clearly dead. Is there a new one? It is the
:38:36. > :38:41.long-term economic plan that has delivered the record level of
:38:42. > :38:44.employment that we see... CHEERING Perhaps I could put the right
:38:45. > :38:47.honourable gentleman straight, we have not abandoned the intention to
:38:48. > :38:51.move to a surplus, what I have said is that we will not be targeting
:38:52. > :38:56.that at the end of this Parliament. He uses the language of austerity...
:38:57. > :39:06.Can I say this to him, he talks about austerity, I call it living
:39:07. > :39:10.within our means. CHEERING He talks about austerity, in fact it
:39:11. > :39:15.is about not saddling children and grandchildren with significant debts
:39:16. > :39:19.to come. It is not about austerity, it is about ensuring we have an
:39:20. > :39:25.economy that works for everyone. Jeremy Corbyn. Jobless claims have
:39:26. > :39:30.risen for the fourth month in a row, welfare claims have risen as well.
:39:31. > :39:34.Austerity actually means people being poorer, services being cut,
:39:35. > :39:39.and local facilities being closed. In her speech on the steps of
:39:40. > :39:42.Downing Street, she also addressed insecure workers, saying, you have a
:39:43. > :39:51.job but you do not always have job security. SHOUTING
:39:52. > :39:57.Does that mean, to those people that are worried about their future in
:39:58. > :40:03.work... SHOUTING I am talking of the people that sent
:40:04. > :40:09.us here to serve them. Does that mean that she is proposing to scrap
:40:10. > :40:14.and lemon tribunal fees, band zero hours contracts, repeal the trade
:40:15. > :40:18.union act, as more than a dozen European nations have already done,
:40:19. > :40:24.that would help to give greater job security to many very worried people
:40:25. > :40:26.in this country. Again I say to the right honourable gentleman, I did
:40:27. > :40:30.say that on the streets of Downing Street, it is very important that
:40:31. > :40:34.here in this house, we consider not only what might be called the more
:40:35. > :40:39.of these injustices but consider the life for those people for whom they
:40:40. > :40:43.are in work but struggling to make ends meet. It is essential, that is
:40:44. > :40:46.one of the things that the government has done, it has raised
:40:47. > :40:52.the threshold at which people start to pay income tax, for example. It
:40:53. > :40:55.is also about making sure that we have more well-paid jobs in this
:40:56. > :41:02.country. That is also what the government is doing. I'm interested
:41:03. > :41:07.that he refers to the situation of some workers, who may have some job
:41:08. > :41:10.insecurity, and potentially, unscrupulous bosses, I suspect that
:41:11. > :41:14.there are many members on the opposition benches who may be
:41:15. > :41:17.familiar with an unscrupulous boss... LAUGHTER
:41:18. > :41:24.A boss who does not listen to his workers? SHOUTING
:41:25. > :41:29.Requires some of his workers to double their workload... SHOUTING
:41:30. > :41:36.LAUGHTER Maybe even a boss who exploits the
:41:37. > :41:49.rules to further his own career. Remind him of anybody? SHOUTING
:41:50. > :41:54.Mr Speaker, we are sent here to
:41:55. > :42:01.represent people. And there are many people in this country struggling
:42:02. > :42:05.with insecure jobs, with low wages, I know this is very funny for all
:42:06. > :42:10.Conservative members, but I don't suppose, I do not suppose there is
:42:11. > :42:14.too many Conservative MPs who have to go to a food bank in order to
:42:15. > :42:18.supplement their family table every week! I think that we should reflect
:42:19. > :42:25.upon those things. The Prime Minister highlighted the failures of
:42:26. > :42:29.her predecessor, on social justice, homeownership, education and the
:42:30. > :42:33.cost of living. Some might say that as a cabinet minister, she too was
:42:34. > :42:37.responsible for that but she empathised with working people when
:42:38. > :42:40.she said, " I know you are working around the clock, I know you are
:42:41. > :42:44.doing your best, I know that sometimes life can be a struggle".
:42:45. > :42:49.Yesterday the IFA has found that two thirds of children living in poverty
:42:50. > :42:54.in Britain have at least one parent in work. -- IFS. What, other than
:42:55. > :42:59.warm words, is she going to offer those families, those children, who
:43:00. > :43:04.are hungry often and very insecure in their living? Isn't it our duty
:43:05. > :43:16.to offer some hope and security to them? We are concerned about those
:43:17. > :43:17.people but the answer is not unlimited uncapped welfare, as the
:43:18. > :43:23.Labour Party say, the answer for people who are
:43:24. > :43:26.in work and struggling in work and the answer for those that want to
:43:27. > :43:31.get into work is to have a strong economy, an economy which delivers
:43:32. > :43:34.jobs and well-paid jobs, and that is why I can assure the right
:43:35. > :43:38.honourable gentleman that on this side of the house, we are focused
:43:39. > :43:42.upon building a country which works for everyone, an economy which
:43:43. > :43:46.ensures that everyone can benefit from the nation's 12, a society
:43:47. > :43:50.where everyone gets the opportunities they deserve, and a
:43:51. > :43:54.democracy that everyone can have faith in. And finally, I say to the
:43:55. > :43:58.right honourable gentleman, the Labour Party may be about to spend
:43:59. > :44:02.several months of fighting and tearing itself apart, the
:44:03. > :44:07.Conservative Party will be spending those months ringing this country
:44:08. > :44:11.back together. -- benefit from the nation's wealth.
:44:12. > :44:18.SHOUTING There will be more.
:44:19. > :44:24.I agree with the Prime Minister... SHOUTING
:44:25. > :44:34.CHEERING LAUGHTER
:44:35. > :44:40.We are leaving the EU and we are going to make a success of it, will
:44:41. > :44:45.the Prime Minister make my Day special by saying that she is
:44:46. > :44:49.prepared to reject staying in the single regulated market, and
:44:50. > :44:55.offering instead to our friends in Europe a free-trade deal, very much
:44:56. > :45:05.in their interests, let's take back control! I'm tempted to say that
:45:06. > :45:09.after that... Aisha Praught be sit down and enjoy that for the rest of
:45:10. > :45:14.the day... My honourable friend has made my day. -- I should probably
:45:15. > :45:18.sit down and enjoy that the rest of the day. Happy birthday to him, I
:45:19. > :45:23.should say that, and as we look at the result of the referendum, I am
:45:24. > :45:27.very clear that Brexit means Brexit, we will make a success of it, what
:45:28. > :45:31.we need to do in negotiating the deal is listen to what people have
:45:32. > :45:35.said about the need for controlled on free movement but also negotiate
:45:36. > :45:45.the right deal and the best deal of trade in goods and services for the
:45:46. > :45:54.British people. Angus Roberts and. -- Angus Robertson.
:45:55. > :46:01.The German vice Chancellor has already confirmed how Scotland is
:46:02. > :46:05.able to remain in the European Union. Did the Prime Minister
:46:06. > :46:08.discussed this when she met with First Minister Nicola Sturgeon
:46:09. > :46:18.Wenzhou was in Edinburgh, and will she do everything to ensure that
:46:19. > :46:22.remain means remain for Scotland? -- when she was in Edinburgh. Can I
:46:23. > :46:26.thank the right honourable gentleman for his comments and the recognition
:46:27. > :46:30.that he showed the support for my husband, and as he said then, we all
:46:31. > :46:39.rely on support from those around cum to do our jobs, and we should
:46:40. > :46:43.never forget that. I did discuss the arrangements for the UK leaving the
:46:44. > :46:47.EU, and I was very pleased that my first trip was to Scotland and that
:46:48. > :46:51.I was able to do it so early in my premiership, as I have been very
:46:52. > :46:56.clear, the Union is very important to me. I was also clear with the
:46:57. > :46:59.First Minister that I think there are some ideas being put forward
:47:00. > :47:02.that are impractical but I am willing to listen to the options
:47:03. > :47:07.that are brought forward, and we will be engaging fully with all the
:47:08. > :47:11.devolved add ministrations. Germany has the highest level of support of
:47:12. > :47:19.any continental European country for Scotland remaining in the European
:47:20. > :47:24.Union, so would the Prime Minister thank Chancellor Merkel for the
:47:25. > :47:30.interest of the members of her government and members of the
:47:31. > :47:33.Bundestag, their interest in having Scotland remaining within the EU,
:47:34. > :47:38.and will she assure the Chancellor and other heads of state and
:47:39. > :47:42.government that we in Scotland will do everything, everything that is
:47:43. > :47:49.necessary for us to remain in the EU? I have to say to the right
:47:50. > :47:54.honourable gentleman, because this is a line that he has been taking
:47:55. > :48:00.for some time. I do find it a little confusing, given that only two years
:48:01. > :48:03.ago in the Scottish referendum the SNP was campaigning for Scotland to
:48:04. > :48:11.leave the United Kingdom, which would have meant leaving the
:48:12. > :48:17.European Union. Daniel Kawczynski. Thank you, Mr Speaker. We all stand
:48:18. > :48:20.with the people of France, and particularly Nice, following the
:48:21. > :48:24.appalling terrorist act there last week. We'll be primers to update the
:48:25. > :48:27.House on how the security collaboration between our countries
:48:28. > :48:31.can help prevent such attacks in the future, and reassure the French
:48:32. > :48:35.people that although we are leaving the European Union, the close links
:48:36. > :48:41.between our two countries will remain steadfast? My honourable
:48:42. > :48:45.friend raises a very important topic, and as has been said in his
:48:46. > :48:48.House before, our thoughts are with all the people of France and the
:48:49. > :48:53.appalling attack that took place in Nice last week. We continue to work
:48:54. > :48:57.with the French authorities, both obviously in the aftermath of that
:48:58. > :49:01.attack, but my honourable friend is right that we need to continue our
:49:02. > :49:05.security co-operation with France and indeed other European countries.
:49:06. > :49:09.We will not be cowed by terrorists, we both faced the same threats, and
:49:10. > :49:14.we need to work together in order to defeat those threats. And I can
:49:15. > :49:17.absolutely confirm that, yes, the United Kingdom will leave the
:49:18. > :49:21.European Union, but the United Kingdom is not leaving Europe, and
:49:22. > :49:28.our co-operation will continue. Jamie Read. Can I welcome the Prime
:49:29. > :49:30.Minister to her place and wish you well in healing the country in the
:49:31. > :49:35.months and years to come? After all, it is she and her colleagues have so
:49:36. > :49:43.bitterly divided it. And can I thank too... Can I thank her too, Mr
:49:44. > :49:49.Speaker, for her wholehearted support and endorsement for official
:49:50. > :49:51.Labour Party policy on Trident? It is such a refreshing change to hear
:49:52. > :50:01.that from the despatch box! LAUGHTER
:50:02. > :50:08.As a type one diabetic and as a father and uncle to children with
:50:09. > :50:12.type 1 diabetes, and we have 500,000 people, 30,000 of them children in
:50:13. > :50:14.this country, can I thank the Prime Minister for the example she has
:50:15. > :50:19.shown to those people in demonstrating that this not hold us
:50:20. > :50:22.in anyway whatsoever? There is no doubt whatsoever, Mr Speaker, that
:50:23. > :50:32.the Prime Minister's predecessor found the NHS, left it in a much
:50:33. > :50:37.worse condition than he. Will the Prime Minister visits... Will the
:50:38. > :50:40.Prime Minister visit my constituency, to honour the promises
:50:41. > :50:45.made by the previous Prime Minister, and to stop the government cutting
:50:46. > :50:50.services there? Thank you, Mr Speaker. Can I say, the honourable
:50:51. > :50:55.gentleman makes a reference to divisions on the Conservative Party
:50:56. > :51:00.benches, no, which is the party that took three weeks to decide which
:51:01. > :51:06.should be that unity candidate? It was the Labour Party! Can I thank
:51:07. > :51:09.him for his remarks and type 1 diabetes as well. There are many
:51:10. > :51:12.youngsters from tiny tots to teenagers leaving with type 1
:51:13. > :51:16.diabetes, and it is important that we give the message to them that
:51:17. > :51:20.their future is not limited, they can do whatever they want. And he
:51:21. > :51:24.invites me, he is the first person in Prime Minister's Questions to
:51:25. > :51:28.invite me to visit his constituency, and I will look very closely at all
:51:29. > :51:32.invitations that I received in Prime Minister's Questions. I think it is
:51:33. > :51:37.important that decisions about local NHS services are taken at a local
:51:38. > :51:41.level, but I would remind him, as he made the point about the agreement
:51:42. > :51:44.between Conservative Party and Labour Party official policy on
:51:45. > :51:48.Trident, that where we did disagree at the election was it was the
:51:49. > :51:52.Conservative Party that agreed that we would put the money that was
:51:53. > :51:59.necessary into the NHS, the Labour Party refused to commit that. Thank
:52:00. > :52:04.you, Mr Speaker. Extremism takes many forms, from the atrocity in
:52:05. > :52:10.Nice to the violent murder by her own brother in Pakistan, justified
:52:11. > :52:14.as an honour killing. -- Qandeel Baloch. There were many examples of
:52:15. > :52:17.this in the UK over the last five years. Does the Prime Minister agree
:52:18. > :52:22.that such crimes are acts of terror, not honour, and which he directed
:52:23. > :52:26.that a new governor shows a lead for ending the use of the word honour to
:52:27. > :52:32.describe this vile act in order to stop any legitimacy to the idea that
:52:33. > :52:36.women are the property of men? -- and would she direct that her new
:52:37. > :52:40.government. This is an issue that resonate across this whole House,
:52:41. > :52:44.and she is absolutely right that extremism takes many forms, and in
:52:45. > :52:51.the counter-ruck stream is policy we are looking very widely across the
:52:52. > :52:56.breadth of extremism. -- counter extremism policy. We are looking at
:52:57. > :53:01.tackling the root causes of so-called honour based violence, and
:53:02. > :53:06.I absolutely agree that there is absolutely no honour in so-called
:53:07. > :53:12.honour based violence, it is a criminal act, pure and simple. Thank
:53:13. > :53:18.you, vista is bigger. I too would like to welcome the Prime Minister
:53:19. > :53:22.to her first Prime Minister's Question Time. -- Mr Speaker. I
:53:23. > :53:26.would like to ask you to listen to the head teachers of primary schools
:53:27. > :53:31.in my constituency. They tell me the weeds and unprecedented changes in
:53:32. > :53:34.primary education, including new sites, have lead to negative impact
:53:35. > :53:38.on the learning outcomes of children. -- the recent
:53:39. > :53:44.unprecedented changes. Will she urged the new Secretary of State to
:53:45. > :53:51.take these concerns forward? I thank the honourable lady for her welcome
:53:52. > :53:54.to me, and I think education right is absolutely crucial if we are
:53:55. > :53:59.going to ensure that people can take up the opportunities they deserve
:54:00. > :54:02.also have the aspiration to take up those opportunities. The new
:54:03. > :54:05.Education Secretary will be looking across the at the education
:54:06. > :54:10.provision that is in place, we have made important changes already over
:54:11. > :54:13.the last six years that are improving the quality of education.
:54:14. > :54:17.More children are getting the quality of education they need, but
:54:18. > :54:24.there is more for us to do, and we will be looking at that. In my
:54:25. > :54:28.constituency, Aerospace is vital importance, Rolls-Royce and boring
:54:29. > :54:34.over 1000 people at their site, but it is just important there what do
:54:35. > :54:36.the whole UK economy. Will the Prime Minister congratulate all the
:54:37. > :54:40.companies that attended the Farnborough airshow, on the deals
:54:41. > :54:44.they signed, and will she agree that with nearly ?100 billion of trade
:54:45. > :54:48.deals done this year, Britain is very much open for business? My
:54:49. > :54:52.honourable friend is absolutely right that Britain is open for
:54:53. > :54:56.business, and I know what an important role the aerospace
:54:57. > :54:59.industry plays in his constituency, but also in other constituencies
:55:00. > :55:05.across the country, and the importance of the Farnborough
:55:06. > :55:09.airshow, and the member for Aldershot was telling me what a
:55:10. > :55:15.great airshow it was. The Government committed there to generate a fund
:55:16. > :55:20.for research to ensure we retain our leading position in this sector, and
:55:21. > :55:24.as he said, there are a significant number of trade deals signed, and I
:55:25. > :55:29.would encourage other companies to go out and get that business. I wish
:55:30. > :55:33.to welcome the right honourable lady to her place. Newcastle Airport was
:55:34. > :55:38.voted best in Britain this week, but the good news that we are waiting
:55:39. > :55:42.for is a decision on Heathrow expansion. The Prime Minister knows
:55:43. > :55:46.that Britain needs to be open for business, so will she do better than
:55:47. > :55:54.dithering gave and give us a decision without delay? -- dithering
:55:55. > :55:58.Dave. I have some fond memories of Newcastle Airport from the time when
:55:59. > :56:02.I stood in the North West Durham constituency some years ago and made
:56:03. > :56:05.quite good use of Newcastle Airport, it has changed and expanded rather
:56:06. > :56:10.ever since. On Heathrow, the position has not changed. Obviously,
:56:11. > :56:13.the review work has been done, further work has been done in
:56:14. > :56:17.relation to the question of air quality around the various proposals
:56:18. > :56:25.that were put forward, and the Cabinet and the Government will be
:56:26. > :56:29.taking a decision in due course. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Based on
:56:30. > :56:36.analysis of a crime survey for England and Wales by the Children's
:56:37. > :56:39.Society, an estimated 113 16 and 17-year-old girls in my constituency
:56:40. > :56:44.have experienced a sexual offence in the last year. Given the progress
:56:45. > :56:48.made in tackling child sexual exploitation in the last few years,
:56:49. > :56:52.could my right honourable friend outline if government has plans to
:56:53. > :56:57.strengthen the protection for this particular vulnerable age group? My
:56:58. > :57:01.honourable friend raises a very important issue, we saw, obviously,
:57:02. > :57:04.in recent times the appalling circumstances in Rotherham in
:57:05. > :57:07.relation to child sexual exploitation, but as my honourable
:57:08. > :57:12.friend Guy Shone, in every constituency in the country there
:57:13. > :57:18.are young people being submitted to sexual offences. -- has shown. The
:57:19. > :57:22.Government has been working with all appropriate agencies to ensure we
:57:23. > :57:25.put greater support in place to provide an extra 7 million in
:57:26. > :57:28.funding to ensure victims of sexual abuse receive the right support,
:57:29. > :57:34.launched the whistle-blowing helpline to help authorities spot
:57:35. > :57:38.patterns of behaviour, and patterns of failure, and made child sexual
:57:39. > :57:41.abuse and expedition a national thread so police forces have a duty
:57:42. > :57:45.to collaborate to tackle this terrible crime. We will be
:57:46. > :57:50.strengthening our ravens in the coming months, we are all appalled
:57:51. > :57:58.by child sexual abuse, and we need to make sure we eradicate it. In her
:57:59. > :58:00.first statement on the steps of Downing Street, the Prime Minister
:58:01. > :58:04.stated that she would lead a government that would work for
:58:05. > :58:07.everyone of us. Since she became Prime Minister, I have tried
:58:08. > :58:13.unsuccessfully to get assurances on the continuation of the Northern
:58:14. > :58:17.schools strategy, along with the 80 million that was set aside for the
:58:18. > :58:23.Northern schools. Will she therefore give me that commitment today so
:58:24. > :58:29.that children in Bradford and the North can have the same chances as
:58:30. > :58:32.those in London and the South? Well, it is important that we ensure that
:58:33. > :58:35.across the country children are getting the opportunities that they
:58:36. > :58:38.deserve, and the quality of the education they receive is an
:58:39. > :58:45.important part of that, and the review that has taken place, which
:58:46. > :58:49.was launched in March, is making recommendations on the issue. What I
:58:50. > :58:51.can assure the honourable gentleman is that my right honourable friend
:58:52. > :58:57.the Education Secretary will be looking very carefully at the result
:58:58. > :59:00.of that review and will make the position in which the Government is
:59:01. > :59:08.going to take in response to those recommendations clear in due course.
:59:09. > :59:13.Stuart Andrew. Mr Speaker, crowing up on a council estate, it was tough
:59:14. > :59:20.coming out as a Conservative. -- growing up.
:59:21. > :59:25.LAUGHTER Difficult as it was, I understood
:59:26. > :59:29.then, as I do now, that only a Conservative government delivers
:59:30. > :59:34.real social mobility. Does my right honourable friend
:59:35. > :59:37.agree with me that if it is the job of this government to fight for such
:59:38. > :59:42.opportunities for the people of Britain, because the party opposite
:59:43. > :59:46.are too busy fighting each other? Well, my honourable friend puts it
:59:47. > :59:49.very well, and if you look at the Conservative benchers, as he says,
:59:50. > :59:54.we have Members of Parliament who were brought up in council houses,
:59:55. > :59:56.Conservative Members of Parliament brought up by single-parent
:59:57. > :00:02.families. The chairman of the Conservative Party is a former
:00:03. > :00:07.miner. It is this party that is looking at opportunity for all, and
:00:08. > :00:10.that certainly, I am very clear that the Government I lead will be driven
:00:11. > :00:15.not by the interests of the privileged few but by the interests
:00:16. > :00:18.of everyone in this country, not entrenching the advantages of a
:00:19. > :00:22.privileged few in terms of opportunity, but extending
:00:23. > :00:27.opportunity to all. Steward led Donaldson. Thank you, Mr Speaker.
:00:28. > :00:33.Whatever your politics, one cannot help but be inspired by the image
:00:34. > :00:36.last week of the female Prime Minister of UK meeting the female
:00:37. > :00:39.First Minister of Scotland, a message to girls everywhere that
:00:40. > :00:42.they can achieve anything they want. Does the Prime Minister agree that
:00:43. > :00:46.to do this girls and women should be able to live free from gender race
:00:47. > :00:51.violence and domestic abuse, and will she commit to supporting the
:00:52. > :00:55.bill of my honourable friend for Banff and Buchan and ratify the
:00:56. > :00:57.Istanbul convention? Can I say to the honourable gentleman that I
:00:58. > :01:05.think it is an important symbol for girls and young women to see women
:01:06. > :01:08.in positions as Prime Minister and First Minister, and I respect the
:01:09. > :01:13.First Minister of Scotland, we had a very constructive first meeting. We
:01:14. > :01:16.will disagree on some issues, but we will work practically and
:01:17. > :01:20.pragmatically together. I think it is important to deal with the issues
:01:21. > :01:27.of gender violence and domestic violence against women and girls.
:01:28. > :01:31.That is why the add has a strategy that is being taken on by my right
:01:32. > :01:36.honourable friend the Home Secretary now. -- why the Government has. We
:01:37. > :01:40.have a good record for putting in place domestic violence protection
:01:41. > :01:46.orders, but there is always more to do, and we will be doing that.
:01:47. > :01:53.Can I welcome one right honourable friend to her place, if it is not
:01:54. > :01:59.too untoward to say, I declare it as game, set and match to her this
:02:00. > :02:04.afternoon. Can I tell my right... Can I tell my right honourable
:02:05. > :02:08.friend that last week, when I met local NFU representatives in North
:02:09. > :02:12.Dorset, they understood what we were doing in delivering Brexit, but they
:02:13. > :02:15.were keen to ensure that the needs of agriculture and British farmers
:02:16. > :02:22.are front and centre in those discussions and that their interests
:02:23. > :02:26.are considered. Can I invite my honourable friend to make that
:02:27. > :02:29.commitment today? I'm very happy to make that commitment, as we look at
:02:30. > :02:33.the position I will be taking in negotiations to leaving for the UK
:02:34. > :02:39.leaving the European Union, we will be consulting widely, agriculture is
:02:40. > :02:42.a sector which is particularly affected by Brexit, and I can assure
:02:43. > :02:46.my honourable friend that we will be consulting with and listening to the
:02:47. > :02:51.views of farmers and others involved in the food industry and
:02:52. > :02:55.agricultural sector. Can I congratulate the right honourable
:02:56. > :02:58.lady on becoming Prime Minister. I gently remind her of the
:02:59. > :03:02.conversation we had a few weeks ago, when I said she would come through
:03:03. > :03:07.the middle and trounce the men standing for that position. So I was
:03:08. > :03:11.right! LAUGHTER I also said I was going to put some
:03:12. > :03:16.money on her, unfortunately I never got around to it, because the odds
:03:17. > :03:19.were very good at the time. Can I ask the Prime Minister is very
:03:20. > :03:23.serious question about the younger generation, millennials, so many of
:03:24. > :03:30.them in this country believe they are citizens of Europe, they had the
:03:31. > :03:35.ability to travel, to work, and to be true Europeans, will she soon
:03:36. > :03:38.give them her vision of how that reality, as European citizens, can
:03:39. > :03:44.be delivered even in the present circumstance? I think the honourable
:03:45. > :03:51.gentleman, I do indeed remember the conversation where he said I would
:03:52. > :03:54.trounce the men, as he said it, the Conservative Party came up with an
:03:55. > :04:00.all woman short list, without being quiet to do so, if I may say...
:04:01. > :04:04.LAUGHTER He raises an important point about
:04:05. > :04:10.the younger generation, what I would say is this, as I said in response
:04:11. > :04:14.to my noble friend, the member for Shrewsbury Town Acton, we are
:04:15. > :04:20.leaving the European Union but not leaving Europe, we will be setting
:04:21. > :04:23.out the negotiating position in terms of our relationship to the
:04:24. > :04:26.European Union, over the coming weeks and months, I would also say
:04:27. > :04:31.this to the young people that he talks about, actually, we should not
:04:32. > :04:36.be limiting their opportunities and their horizons by just looking at
:04:37. > :04:40.Europe. This country will be making a success of Brexit because we will
:04:41. > :04:44.be out there in the world, as an outward looking, expansive country
:04:45. > :04:50.with opportunities around the globe. Philip Davies. I warmly welcome the
:04:51. > :04:53.Prime Minister to her post, unlike dithering Barry, opposite, I did
:04:54. > :05:02.place a bet on her becoming the next leader. I apologise to the Minister
:05:03. > :05:06.for clearly having my phone off when she was calling me to be a part of
:05:07. > :05:10.the front bench of government(!) LAUGHTER
:05:11. > :05:14.Reason why the people of Yorkshire voted overwhelmingly to leave, was
:05:15. > :05:16.due to control in immigration, and the Prime Minister reassure the
:05:17. > :05:21.people of Yorkshire that when we finally do leave the European Union,
:05:22. > :05:25.she will insist upon keeping her original promise to get the
:05:26. > :05:31.immigration figures down into this country into the tens of thousands.
:05:32. > :05:37.I say to my honourable friend, I am very clear that the vote that was
:05:38. > :05:40.taken in this country on the 23rd of June sent a very clear message about
:05:41. > :05:43.immigration, that people want control of free movement from the
:05:44. > :05:48.European Union, and that is precisely what we will be doing and
:05:49. > :05:51.ensuring that we get that in the negotiations that we will be
:05:52. > :05:56.undertaking. I also remain absolutely firm in my belief that we
:05:57. > :05:58.need to bring net migration down to sustainable levels, the government
:05:59. > :06:05.believes that is tens of thousands... It will take some time
:06:06. > :06:10.to get there, but of course, now, we have the added aspect of those
:06:11. > :06:16.controls that we can bring in relation to people moving from the
:06:17. > :06:34.European Union. Finally, Mr Tim Fallon. Thanks. You all very kind. I
:06:35. > :06:37.would like to warmly welcome the promise to her position, she has
:06:38. > :06:41.come a long way since we were on the hustings together in North West
:06:42. > :06:45.Durham, she will reflect that she is possessing greater support in this
:06:46. > :06:51.chamber than either of us got in Consett working men 's club. -- --
:06:52. > :06:55.Tim Farron. Today there are reports that the new Grexit law meat unit
:06:56. > :07:01.will be hiring lawyers at the cost of ?5,000 per head per day, will the
:07:02. > :07:05.Prime Minister be using the mythical ?350 million to pay the legal fees,
:07:06. > :07:11.or is that still pencilled in for the NHS, as promised by cabinet
:07:12. > :07:15.colleagues who campaign for leave? It is absolute right that we create
:07:16. > :07:19.a new department to focus upon the work of negotiating the United
:07:20. > :07:22.Kingdom leaving the European Union and that department will need to
:07:23. > :07:27.have the expertise necessary to undertake those negotiations, I say
:07:28. > :07:30.to the right honourable gentleman, I am very happy to remember the days
:07:31. > :07:34.that he and I spent campaigning in that parliament in the general
:07:35. > :07:37.election, little did the voters of North West Durham know that the two
:07:38. > :07:41.candidates, unsuccessful candidates, in that election, would become
:07:42. > :07:44.leaders of two of this country's political parties, although as I
:07:45. > :07:48.would point out to the right honourable gentleman, my party is a
:07:49. > :07:54.little bit bigger than his is... CHEERING
:07:55. > :08:06.LAUGHTER Order.
:08:07. > :08:12.That marked the end of Theresa May's first prime ministers questions,
:08:13. > :08:15.strong performance, fairly strong performance, we will hear what you
:08:16. > :08:18.thought in a moment, recapping on some of the substance, she started
:08:19. > :08:22.off saying that unemployment has come down, wages have gone up, and
:08:23. > :08:27.welcomed the vote on Trident renewal, while thanking the 140
:08:28. > :08:31.Labour MPs for backing the government on this, making it
:08:32. > :08:35.uncomfortable for Jeremy Corbyn. He actually then sort of forensically
:08:36. > :08:39.dissected Theresa May's speech which she made on the steps of Downing
:08:40. > :08:44.Street, trying to get her to match the rhetoric on issues like social
:08:45. > :08:48.justice with action. Also raised calls for the Orgreave enquiry,
:08:49. > :08:53.which was into policing, handling the miners strike in 1984, we will
:08:54. > :08:57.have a bit on that later on. Talk about homeownership, if you are
:08:58. > :09:00.black you are more likely to be treated more harshly than if you are
:09:01. > :09:03.white, something that she said in the criminal justice system, Jeremy
:09:04. > :09:08.Corbyn wanted her to say exactly what she meant, also raised the
:09:09. > :09:11.language used by Boris Johnson as Foreign Secretary, then the
:09:12. > :09:15.long-term economic plan, about helping people who are less
:09:16. > :09:20.fortunate, said that welfare claims are up, jobless figures in terms of
:09:21. > :09:25.claims are also up, and then social justice in general. She came back
:09:26. > :09:28.and unusually answered quite a few of the questions and there was a few
:09:29. > :09:32.jokes trust in their about the fact she is the second female Prime
:09:33. > :09:37.Minister, roof of the pudding, that the Tory party does do something for
:09:38. > :09:40.women, and also on scribblers leadership, pointing at Jeremy
:09:41. > :09:44.Corbyn. Interestingly, in the whole section by Jeremy Corbyn, nothing
:09:45. > :09:49.about Brexit or Europe, that game in the questions afterwards, the form
:09:50. > :09:53.of Angus Robertson, from the SNP, saying that remain means remain.
:09:54. > :10:00.And. She again said she was listening to the devolved
:10:01. > :10:03.parliaments. She would not say anything more firmly. But at the
:10:04. > :10:08.very end she talked about migration and net migration figures and she
:10:09. > :10:20.very clearly restated her commitment to reducing net migration to tens of
:10:21. > :10:24.thousands. Boris Johnson and Amber Rudd failed to do that, but she said
:10:25. > :10:27.that she was very clear that the vote taken on the 23rd of June was
:10:28. > :10:31.that people want the government is to take control of immigration and
:10:32. > :10:35.she was going to do that, but she admitted that it will take some time
:10:36. > :10:38.to get there. She made a little joke at the spends of Tim Farron, when
:10:39. > :10:42.they stood for a seat that neither of them one, that they are both now
:10:43. > :10:47.leaders of individual parties but that hers was a bit bigger(!) than
:10:48. > :10:53.his. She can be a bit ruthless. Other words to describe her being
:10:54. > :10:57.used by you out there, " commanding, confident, self assured..."
:10:58. > :11:01.Self-assurance, that was the keyword. A big response,
:11:02. > :11:04.interesting, the tone of PMQs changes with the change of
:11:05. > :11:09.characters, a lot of people have been watching, thank you for your
:11:10. > :11:13.response. Victories on form, Jeremy still raising questions from
:11:14. > :11:18.history, minus strike and homeownership in the 1990s. As an
:11:19. > :11:21.change and a very powerful change, says Tim. Bill Claridge,
:11:22. > :11:27.barnstorming first B 's performance from PM. Patterson, with
:11:28. > :11:39.the PM wipe the floor with Jeremy what a response on Twitter to that.
:11:40. > :11:44.A few against. -- Phil Claridge. John Baker, picked up on something
:11:45. > :11:48.that you picked mentioned, she looked nervous and try to be too
:11:49. > :11:51.clever, I'm particularly pleased that Jeremy Corbyn threw back those
:11:52. > :11:56.words at her that she said on the steps of Downing Street, I think
:11:57. > :12:04.that he came out on top. -- PMQs. Thatcher Mark two, she is back. Seen
:12:05. > :12:08.it all before. And one thing, the award unexpected pun, I don't think
:12:09. > :12:13.they're meant to, how refreshing, answers to all questions in calm
:12:14. > :12:25.atmosphere, from Kent Norman, long may it continue. Makes a change from
:12:26. > :12:29.you doing that! -- Ken Norman. It was fluent, confident, it is easy to
:12:30. > :12:33.make comparisons between Theresa May and Margaret Thatcher, but a couple
:12:34. > :12:36.of notes echoed, of Margaret Thatcher, much more fluent than
:12:37. > :12:40.Margaret Thatcher was, at the beginning of her premiership,
:12:41. > :12:44.watching those days from the gallery, I was a six-year-old little
:12:45. > :12:48.girl correspondent, she was very confident. You can see some of the
:12:49. > :12:52.gags coming half a mile away, this is the House of Commons, not have I
:12:53. > :12:59.got news for you, which you know very well! I think I prefer PMQs,
:13:00. > :13:02.myself. Jeremy Corbyn did well under the circumstances, a strong and
:13:03. > :13:06.sustained attack on one or two lines, especially considering the
:13:07. > :13:09.benches behind him sat in that now familiar uncomfortable silence, as
:13:10. > :13:14.if they were watching an embarrassing relative at a party, it
:13:15. > :13:18.feels like that, somebody with every right to be there, they just wish he
:13:19. > :13:21.would go away. Gave a reasonable performance on his own terms,
:13:22. > :13:26.Theresa May more than held her end up. Interestingly on that dynamic,
:13:27. > :13:30.Jeremy Corbyn, more experienced, has been there longer, even as Leader of
:13:31. > :13:33.the Opposition, may feel more comfortable at the dispatch box,
:13:34. > :13:37.what about the comparisons, that will inevitably be made, between
:13:38. > :13:40.Theresa May and Margaret Thatcher? May have been more confident at the
:13:41. > :13:45.beginning, but those comparisons will be made, and she was quite
:13:46. > :13:49.aggressive. One or two stylistics marriages, the mine is bigger than
:13:50. > :13:53.yours gagged at the end of the session, that may have come out of
:13:54. > :13:57.the Margaret Thatcher playbook, one or two lines, the way that they were
:13:58. > :14:05.delivered. -- mine is bigger than yours gag. It is easy to make the
:14:06. > :14:09.comparison but the comparisons were there to be made, she started off
:14:10. > :14:13.hitting the ground running, in this Question Time, she is flying any
:14:14. > :14:17.minute now to see the German leader, then the French leader after that.
:14:18. > :14:25.She has started, in her own way, Margaret Thatcher did as well, with
:14:26. > :14:30.a very big in tray. The first question that Jeremy Corbyn put to
:14:31. > :14:32.Theresa May, Orgreave Inquirer, she gave an indication that something
:14:33. > :14:37.might be happening. Sounded like more than that, watch this space,
:14:38. > :14:41.saying that the new Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, would have something to
:14:42. > :14:43.sale it on, you do not often hear a promise to saying that unless
:14:44. > :14:47.something of substance is going to happen, she was referring to the
:14:48. > :14:50.Battle of Orgreave, literally a battle in many ways between the
:14:51. > :14:53.South Yorkshire Police and striking miners at the Orgreave colliery in
:14:54. > :14:58.1984, accusations of evidence being rigged up, of mine is being framed
:14:59. > :15:02.and all the rest of it, and the call for the enquiry took on new momentum
:15:03. > :15:07.after the Hillsborough enquiry. -- miners. We are now looking at what
:15:08. > :15:10.Amber Rudd has got to say. What about the issue of Europe, there is
:15:11. > :15:15.every sign that her premiership is going to be defined by the Brexit
:15:16. > :15:20.vote, however much she wants to talk about social justice, that is how it
:15:21. > :15:23.will be defined initially. Angus Robertson has made the claim, he is
:15:24. > :15:28.going to continue on this, remain means remain for Scotland, what does
:15:29. > :15:32.it mean in practice? The early stages of the game, it can really
:15:33. > :15:35.only have one outcome, the Scottish national party, after in gauging
:15:36. > :15:38.with the Westminster government and the Prime Minister, we have heard
:15:39. > :15:42.promises to engage constructively with the government in Edinburgh,
:15:43. > :15:45.there will go their separate ways, because of course they will, this
:15:46. > :15:48.means Scotland being able to continue a relationship with the
:15:49. > :15:52.European Union, for Westminster and the rest of the UK, they are a
:15:53. > :15:54.component part and will go the way of the rest of us until the break
:15:55. > :16:03.finally comes. That was her first visit, she fears
:16:04. > :16:09.that is the big threat. One of the first thing she said outside Downing
:16:10. > :16:15.Street, she talked about how precious the Union is, and the union
:16:16. > :16:19.of all our citizens, the social justice agenda. That performance
:16:20. > :16:23.showed me that we have picked the right person. There was a great deal
:16:24. > :16:27.of detailed knowledge, if you take the question on housing, on starter
:16:28. > :16:33.homes, she had all the detail, why the limits were as they were. Direct
:16:34. > :16:36.answers two questions, a very sure that performance, and a clear
:16:37. > :16:39.political contrast that you are trying to draw between the Labour
:16:40. > :16:43.Party, fighting amongst themselves, and getting on with government.
:16:44. > :16:48.There is trouble, obviously, down the road, because he congratulated
:16:49. > :16:51.Herbert said that Brexit means Brexit and already wanted a
:16:52. > :17:00.commitment that it would mean not joining the single market. --
:17:01. > :17:04.congratulated her but said. We are trying to have a strong trading
:17:05. > :17:07.relationship with the EU 27 countries, that is in all of our
:17:08. > :17:11.interests, and cooperate on the problems we face in terms of the
:17:12. > :17:21.migration crisis and terrorism. And what about free -- freedom of
:17:22. > :17:26.movement? Well, what was very clear is that she was keen to stress that
:17:27. > :17:30.although we are leaving the EU, there is still a positive global
:17:31. > :17:33.vision of Britain, and our relationship, she is going to
:17:34. > :17:38.Germany and lacrosse after that, our relationships with these countries
:17:39. > :17:45.are varied important and will be in the future. -- Germany and France.
:17:46. > :17:51.How is she going to achieve it? In terms of migration, the number of
:17:52. > :17:56.people coming from outside the EU stands at 188,000, how long will it
:17:57. > :18:04.take to get there? 20 years? I do not think she is thinking over that
:18:05. > :18:07.time scale at all, there is an opportunity to make changes in terms
:18:08. > :18:11.of European migration at the end of this period, and we can take further
:18:12. > :18:16.measures in relation to non-EU migration. What measures will bring
:18:17. > :18:20.down that figure to tens of thousands? You asking me to take
:18:21. > :18:24.decisions... You believe this is a credible line that has not been
:18:25. > :18:28.achieved by the Government when she was Home Secretary, and she has
:18:29. > :18:32.restated that commitment, despite the fact that her Home Secretary and
:18:33. > :18:42.Foreign Secretary do not believe it is achievable, and you tell me in
:18:43. > :18:44.any way how you would bring the figure down. The Government will
:18:45. > :18:47.have to look at a range of measures on migration, but one of the clear
:18:48. > :18:49.messages from the referendum was a very widespread concern in our
:18:50. > :18:54.country about levels of immigration, and the Government needs to respond
:18:55. > :18:57.to that. One of the comments she made about the Labour Party is that
:18:58. > :19:01.it will spend the next few months in a divisive leadership battle while
:19:02. > :19:04.her body gets on with bringing the country back together. That is what
:19:05. > :19:10.is going to happen, the Labour Party is going to be fighting itself while
:19:11. > :19:14.the Government gets on. Well, the Labour Party is having an internal,
:19:15. > :19:18.democratic election, and that could be quite healing for the Labour
:19:19. > :19:24.Party. It is definitely a difference from the Tory benches, given they
:19:25. > :19:28.have our daily the ship contest there, and certainly Theresa May's
:19:29. > :19:37.style was quite refreshing and moved away from Flashman. -- they have had
:19:38. > :19:41.a leadership contest there. I would question her judgment in appointing
:19:42. > :19:47.Boris Johnson as Foreign Secretary. You agree with what Jeremy Corbyn
:19:48. > :19:50.said? I do, given Britain's role on the European stage being so
:19:51. > :19:55.critical, and how we define our relationship with the rest of the
:19:56. > :20:00.world, having someone who has said the things that he has said, which
:20:01. > :20:04.was referred to in PMQs, that is a real concern. He did a really good
:20:05. > :20:14.job promoting London. Funny you should mention all of this!
:20:15. > :20:17.Boris Johnson and some of his remarks were brought up by Jeremy
:20:18. > :20:21.Corbyn in the chamber. US Secretary of State John Kerry
:20:22. > :20:24.was in town yesterday, and as he went to see Theresa May
:20:25. > :20:26.in Downing Street, he got a traditional
:20:27. > :20:30.British welcome. At the Foreign Office later,
:20:31. > :20:35.the new Foreign Secretary tried to be more welcoming
:20:36. > :20:39.to the visiting dignitary. Both were subjected to some tricky
:20:40. > :20:41.questions about Boris's past, but Mr Kerry spoke of
:20:42. > :20:43.the man he'd heard about. This man is a very smart
:20:44. > :20:46.and capable man. I can live with that,
:20:47. > :20:51.I can live with that! That's the Boris Johnson
:20:52. > :20:55.that I've met, and we intend to make good
:20:56. > :20:59.things happen. Phew!
:21:00. > :21:02.Stop that, that's great... You've accused the current
:21:03. > :21:12.US President, Barack Obama, of harbouring a part-Kenyan's
:21:13. > :21:15."an ancestral dislike for the British Empire,"
:21:16. > :21:17.while claiming, that he didn't want a Churchill
:21:18. > :21:22.bust in the White House. You have described a possible future
:21:23. > :21:25.US President, Hillary Clinton, as someone with, "Dyed blonde hair
:21:26. > :21:28.and pouty lips and a steely blue stare like a sadistic nurse
:21:29. > :21:33.in a mental hospital." You've also likened her
:21:34. > :21:36.to Lady Macbeth. Or do you want to take them
:21:37. > :21:42.with you into your new job as some sort of indicator of the type
:21:43. > :21:46.of diplomacy you will practise? I'm afraid that there is such
:21:47. > :21:50.a rich thesaurus now of things that I have said
:21:51. > :21:53.that have been one way or another, through what alchemy I do not know,
:21:54. > :21:58.somehow misconstrued, that it would really take me
:21:59. > :22:01.too long to engage in a full global itinerary
:22:02. > :22:05.of apology to all concerned. And I think most people,
:22:06. > :22:08.most people who read these things in their proper context,
:22:09. > :22:25.can see exactly what was intended. Let's see, Cat Smith, Boris Johnson,
:22:26. > :22:28.these comments were raised by your leader, he tends to bluff and say,
:22:29. > :22:33.look, they were taken out of context, they were misconstrued, but
:22:34. > :22:38.you think it is more serious than that. I think Boris thinks he is
:22:39. > :22:42.very funny, but the reality is that it is a very serious time in terms
:22:43. > :22:47.of our relationship on the world stage, so he cannot afford to make
:22:48. > :22:51.jokes, and I hope that he really considers the language that he uses
:22:52. > :22:58.when talking about other political leaders, other potential leaders,
:22:59. > :23:03.and other countries. Do you... Who said he made a good job of being
:23:04. > :23:08.mayor, hardly a ringing endorsement of him as Foreign Secretary, is it?
:23:09. > :23:11.In some cases he has used language that I wouldn't, but before he
:23:12. > :23:15.became mayor, lots of people raised concerns and said he would not be
:23:16. > :23:21.serious enough to do the job, but his approval rating from Londoners
:23:22. > :23:26.was very high. Will it hurt him? Everybody knows his form, he has to
:23:27. > :23:29.live down his past, he has conducted himself as a columnist doing
:23:30. > :23:32.politics, rather than a politician doing a newspaper column, and he has
:23:33. > :23:38.to be less interesting in future, not get carried away by his own gift
:23:39. > :23:41.of phrasemaking, which he writes like a runaway horse. He's the
:23:42. > :23:45.Foreign Secretary, that has got to be change. What a memo, be less
:23:46. > :23:47.interesting! Thank you very much.
:23:48. > :23:50.Now, if you remember, at the beginning of the show
:23:51. > :23:53.to satirise Theresa May's first Prime Minister's Questions.
:23:54. > :24:06.Here he is, getting his equipment at there, look, crayons, pencils,
:24:07. > :24:12.different colours, not traditional blue! Here he is hard at work for
:24:13. > :24:16.us. You have to earn your deep when you come on the Daily Politics, even
:24:17. > :24:20.on a Wednesday. We will see the fruits of his labour in just a
:24:21. > :24:27.moment, you can see the beginnings of him sketching out Theresa May.
:24:28. > :24:32.Boris?! Similar hair! Show us what you have got.
:24:33. > :24:39.Well it is Theresa May... Thank God for that! Of course, it
:24:40. > :24:45.refers to the IMF, at about the exit putting a spanner in the works. I
:24:46. > :24:48.wondered whether, as I was listening outside, whether first of all I had
:24:49. > :24:51.used the wrong metaphor and it should have been the elephant in the
:24:52. > :24:56.room, because of the fact that Brexit is going to dominate her
:24:57. > :25:00.premiership, but Corbyn did not mention it at all. It is absolutely
:25:01. > :25:06.true, but what are your impressions of her in terms of satire? It is
:25:07. > :25:11.impossible now, even more so today, with the pearls and a blue suit, the
:25:12. > :25:16.comparison to the Iron Lady is so obvious. Are you going to have to
:25:17. > :25:20.carve out a slightly different role? It is not just going to be the
:25:21. > :25:24.leopard-skin shoes either, it has to be something more than that. But
:25:25. > :25:28.there are great echoes of Thatcher in her presentation, facially as
:25:29. > :25:40.well, and she has even got the Helmut Haller card now, which has
:25:41. > :25:44.echoes of Thatcher. -- the helmet haircut. You have to keep Thatcher
:25:45. > :25:49.out of her mind while you are drawing, she is something of an
:25:50. > :25:53.enigma. I think we can show some of the other sketches that have been
:25:54. > :25:56.done, but while they are going up, what are the qualities and
:25:57. > :26:01.characteristics that you look for? These are some of the others that
:26:02. > :26:08.have been done of Theresa May, the physical features, the nose and the
:26:09. > :26:16.hair. Peter Brooks is a master at this, and he has gone for the nose,
:26:17. > :26:22.well and truly gone for the nose! In a way, that is also similar to
:26:23. > :26:26.Margaret Thatcher. And the handbag as well. These shoes are going to be
:26:27. > :26:32.absolutely crucial, let's have a look at another one which was done
:26:33. > :26:38.fairly recently, what to think of that one? Brilliant, but then David
:26:39. > :26:46.Brown is always brilliant. It is quite dark. Of course it is dark, he
:26:47. > :26:51.is a satirist! It works, it really works. Let's take a look at the last
:26:52. > :27:01.one, the famous kitten heels, that is his signature, if a little bit
:27:02. > :27:08.rude. Steve Bell combining two metaphors there, very clever, as he
:27:09. > :27:13.always is. But that doesn't show her face, of course. Steve has yet to
:27:14. > :27:18.put a defining caricature of her in. Is that why we have not got the
:27:19. > :27:21.face? Do you think the portrayals of Prime Minister change over time?
:27:22. > :27:29.Blair certainly did, but they do, don't they? In his case, badly with
:27:30. > :27:34.Iraq. And that will develop, what type of person becomes a cartoonist?
:27:35. > :27:39.Are you dark? There is a dark side to us all, why would you choose this
:27:40. > :27:43.otherwise? It is quite an aggressive occupation, making fun of people all
:27:44. > :27:49.the time. But to answer your question, a very mixed bunch, all
:27:50. > :27:53.sorts of people, a strange bunch. Let's see how you develop! Just time
:27:54. > :27:58.to put you out of your misery and give you the answer to guess the
:27:59. > :28:04.year, it was 1988. Can you press the button? We will find out who has got
:28:05. > :28:07.it. A very gentle pressing of the bus! The mug is yours, Richard.
:28:08. > :28:10.That's all for today, thanks to all our guests.
:28:11. > :28:16.after more than 11 years on the Daily Politics.
:28:17. > :28:18.We wish him well and leave you with a reminder of some
:28:19. > :28:20.of his more memorable moments on the programme.
:28:21. > :28:29.Giles, over to you, and we will be counting those puns.
:28:30. > :28:31.Well, what do the horse trainers here
:28:32. > :28:35.make of the runners and riders in the election race?
:28:36. > :28:38.Deals that can be done are the meat of politics
:28:39. > :28:41.in this election that is far from a falcon conclusion.
:28:42. > :28:48.And I'm told they're just jumping to tell me their burning issues.
:28:49. > :28:50.I know they're sceptical, but this new male make-up
:28:51. > :28:52.does make you look a bit more rock 'n' roll,
:28:53. > :28:58.has got me in touch with my feminine side.
:28:59. > :29:00.# What a man, what a man, what a man
:29:01. > :29:05.# What a man, what a man, what a mighty good man... #
:29:06. > :29:11.You're coming across as, frankly, ridiculous.