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:00:36. > :00:39.Hello and welcome to the Daily Politics.

:00:40. > :00:41.Theresa May leaves Downing Street for her first

:00:42. > :00:46.what will be her approach to taking on Jeremy Corbyn?

:00:47. > :00:51.We'll bring that live and uninterrupted.

:00:52. > :00:55.travels to Berlin to meet the world's most powerful woman.

:00:56. > :00:59.Brexit will surely dominate that conversation,

:01:00. > :01:02.will it dominate Theresa May's Premiership too?

:01:03. > :01:12.leaving Owen Smith to go head-to-head with Jeremy Corbyn

:01:13. > :01:16.But is he Citizen Smith or oily Owen?

:01:17. > :01:19.And Boris gets a lesson in diplomacy from the America's top diplomat.

:01:20. > :01:36.We intend to make good things happen. Just stop there. It is

:01:37. > :01:41.called diplomacy. LAUGHTER Yes, it is going well, John.

:01:42. > :01:43.Characteristic start for Boris Johnson there are, in the world of

:01:44. > :01:45.diplomacy. All that in the next hour a a half

:01:46. > :01:49.and with us for the whole of the programme today

:01:50. > :01:52.from Labour's Shadow Cabinet, Cat Smith, who is a close ally

:01:53. > :01:56.of Jeremy Corbyn, and the newly appointed Housing Minister,

:01:57. > :01:59.Gavin Barwell. So, in half an hour Theresa May

:02:00. > :02:02.will come to despatch box for her very first

:02:03. > :02:04.Prime Minister's Questions and we'll find out how she'll

:02:05. > :02:06.handle Jeremy Corbyn. But a week into her premiership

:02:07. > :02:09.what do we already know about the priorities

:02:10. > :02:11.of a Theresa May government? In her first speech outside

:02:12. > :02:17.Downing Street last week, Theresa May put a heavy emphasis

:02:18. > :02:19.on social justice. She highlighted the lack

:02:20. > :02:21.of opportunity for white working the difficulty for young people

:02:22. > :02:25.trying to own their first home, and families that

:02:26. > :02:27."have a job" but "don't Yesterday at her first Cabinet

:02:28. > :02:31.meeting, the new Prime Minister underlined that agenda,

:02:32. > :02:33.saying her government will not be In her speech she stressed her

:02:34. > :02:46.commitment to the Union, so she made it a priority to visit

:02:47. > :02:49.the First Minister of Scotland, Nicola Sturgeon, and the first

:02:50. > :02:51.Minister of Wales, Carwyn Jones She now turns her attention

:02:52. > :02:56.to international leaders. US Secretary of State John Kerry

:02:57. > :02:58.was in London yesterday. And within hours of taking

:02:59. > :03:00.over at Number 10, Theresa May spoke to

:03:01. > :03:03.President Hollande of France and Chancellor Merkel of Germany

:03:04. > :03:08.on the phone, to prepare for the

:03:09. > :03:12.formal negotiations, but after PMQs this afternoon

:03:13. > :03:14.she will be off to Berlin for her first foreign trip to meet

:03:15. > :03:30.Mrs Merkel face to face. Theresa May wants to put social

:03:31. > :03:33.justice at the centre of her premiership, the sort of reform she

:03:34. > :03:37.is talking about, widening university access, improving

:03:38. > :03:42.homeownership, something you will be focusing upon, how will it be

:03:43. > :03:45.funded? On housing front, in my area, the last conference of

:03:46. > :03:48.spending review with double the budget, a couple of things we need

:03:49. > :03:51.to do on the housing front, first build more homes in this country,

:03:52. > :03:55.across parties there is a consensus that under governments of all kinds,

:03:56. > :04:02.we have not been building of homes. Also make sure that as we heard

:04:03. > :04:05.outside of number ten, young people getting onto the housing ladder.

:04:06. > :04:11.More money spent. Big starter project under way, lots of work that

:04:12. > :04:15.we want to progress. It is really important that if we can work hard,

:04:16. > :04:18.ordinary decent jobs, then we get a chance to get them onto the housing

:04:19. > :04:22.ladder. So you want the government to spend more money to create these

:04:23. > :04:31.reforms. The government is in favour of that, spending was doubled. The

:04:32. > :04:34.deficit was higher than forecast, by ?2 billion, and the IMF, among

:04:35. > :04:42.others, are downgrading expectations for UK growth in light of the

:04:43. > :04:49.referendum bud, fewer tax receipts and less money. -- referendum vote.

:04:50. > :04:52.We have not seen data yet, the Chancellor of the Exchequer has

:04:53. > :04:56.said, in terms of fiscal strategy, that we are not going to be aiming

:04:57. > :05:00.to achieve a surplus in 2020 but as I said there is already resource,

:05:01. > :05:04.there is things we can do to make others make a contribution, we have

:05:05. > :05:07.consulted on the idea that when developers build out a development,

:05:08. > :05:13.20% of homes they develop could be starter homes, they could be sold

:05:14. > :05:16.only to first-time buyers, at a 20% reduction, it is not just about what

:05:17. > :05:20.the government spends, we can look at what other people can do to

:05:21. > :05:25.achieve that. You may need that. Interesting new raise the idea of

:05:26. > :05:28.abandoning plans to reach a budget surplus, which George Osborne wanted

:05:29. > :05:34.to do, it has been dumped by Theresa May, despite the downgrading by the

:05:35. > :05:37.IMF, she wants to put growth at the front before deficit reduction, so

:05:38. > :05:41.in your mind, the deficit must go up, and continue to go up, it has

:05:42. > :05:45.gone up already, if more money must be spent, then the deficit will go

:05:46. > :05:49.up, perhaps the short term, to pay for this. The government is still

:05:50. > :05:54.committed to deficit reduction but the issue is about whether you go on

:05:55. > :05:58.to achieve a surplus by 2020. We are in a much stronger position than

:05:59. > :06:04.2010, the deficit has been reduced significantly. It has not been

:06:05. > :06:08.eliminated. It is still ?74 billion. The government cannot spend loads

:06:09. > :06:12.more money without funding it. If you cannot spend more money to fund

:06:13. > :06:16.reforms and you do not want the deficit to come down... I blame, in

:06:17. > :06:20.the spending review we had last year, George Osborne doubled the

:06:21. > :06:23.housing budget, there is funding in the government plans already in that

:06:24. > :06:29.area... Not just housing. Important thing to stress, when we set out the

:06:30. > :06:32.fiscal strategy in the first place, we gave ourselves room to adjust the

:06:33. > :06:36.strategy if there was a shock, the decision we took on the 23rd of June

:06:37. > :06:40.is a big change to the economic policy. Taking advantage of the

:06:41. > :06:44.flexibility. The Chancellor has made it clear, still an objective to

:06:45. > :06:47.bring down the deficit is not what some other areas, keen to talk about

:06:48. > :06:51.housing, that is your brief, teachers have been out on strike,

:06:52. > :06:55.most of that has been on funding, spending per pupil is falling by 8%

:06:56. > :07:01.over the parliament. That is according to the Institute for

:07:02. > :07:05.Fiscal Studies. Should that cut be halted? As a government we will look

:07:06. > :07:07.at the next budget, and all of the spending priorities, what I would

:07:08. > :07:10.say to you, there is lots of things we can do to address those problems,

:07:11. > :07:15.at the moment we are looking for national funding to come in. --

:07:16. > :07:17.waiting for. Some parts of the country have had education funding

:07:18. > :07:22.level that have been... Should London received less money in terms

:07:23. > :07:26.of education because traditionally it has personal had more funding

:07:27. > :07:29.than other parts of the country? It is not necessarily a London against

:07:30. > :07:33.the rest of the country area, many of us in outer London would say that

:07:34. > :07:37.we have been disadvantaged relative to in London, but what is right is

:07:38. > :07:42.to have a fair national funding... You have not answered the question,

:07:43. > :07:44.is it going to fall because the previous Conservative government

:07:45. > :07:49.pledged commitment to education spending increasing, the below that

:07:50. > :07:52.may have increased very slightly, but per-pupil funding is going to

:07:53. > :07:57.fall, because of the increased number of pupils, is that something

:07:58. > :08:01.that should be stopped? Long term, the government is going to have to

:08:02. > :08:06.make decisions about spending priorities. Should education be one

:08:07. > :08:09.of them? That is not the media decide, what is vital is that we

:08:10. > :08:12.look at the overall priorities we have in government and we cannot, we

:08:13. > :08:16.are not in a position where we can afford to increase the deficit, the

:08:17. > :08:20.commitment to continuing to bring down the deficit is there a. That

:08:21. > :08:24.will probably continue, as it stands, more pupils, per-pupil

:08:25. > :08:27.spending will fall? The government will always keep the different

:08:28. > :08:31.spending budgets under review, that is for the new cabinet to decide, I

:08:32. > :08:35.cannot answer that question. You will have some input. We are not in

:08:36. > :08:38.a position where we can begin spending money that is not funded,

:08:39. > :08:44.we must continue to bring down the deficit. Health, the Chief Executive

:08:45. > :08:48.of NHS England, Simon Stevens, yesterday said that some GP

:08:49. > :08:53.practices and hospital facilities are overcrowded and clapped-out

:08:54. > :09:00.buildings, in need of a makeover, capital investment is needed, should

:09:01. > :09:05.he get it? That is not a decision that -- that is not a decision I can

:09:06. > :09:09.take. Education or health? Health has been a major priorities in 2010.

:09:10. > :09:12.There has been a significant increase. There is still overcrowded

:09:13. > :09:17.and clapped-out buildings in need of a makeover, NHS hospitals in England

:09:18. > :09:21.are operating on a 2.45 billion deficit, some might say that you

:09:22. > :09:25.have not been focusing. There is a waste going to be people saying that

:09:26. > :09:31.there is more that can be done. Billion deficit, that is a very big

:09:32. > :09:37.deficit. There has been a very significant real terms injection of

:09:38. > :09:41.money into the NHS. -- two .45 billions pounds deficit. What can be

:09:42. > :09:45.achieved for efficiency, and George Osborne put in more than the figure

:09:46. > :09:48.that he was asking for. That clearly, undeniably, has been a very

:09:49. > :09:52.significant priority for the government. -- 2.45 billion.

:09:53. > :09:54.Obviously there is still a black hole, according to the man who

:09:55. > :10:00.should know, Simon Stephens, he also wants assurances about NHS staff

:10:01. > :10:04.from other EU countries, in the Grexit world we are now living.

:10:05. > :10:07.Should they get those assurances about whether they will be able to

:10:08. > :10:12.stay? The government has made it clear that we fully spec EU citizens

:10:13. > :10:17.in this country to enjoy... You expect but cannot guarantee? I think

:10:18. > :10:22.we have got to think about both situations, people in this country,

:10:23. > :10:26.have been here, making a big contribution to public services and

:10:27. > :10:30.the economy and the communities. -- fully expect. We also have British

:10:31. > :10:32.citizens in other EU countries, one of the key thing is that the Prime

:10:33. > :10:36.Minister and the government as a whole need to achieve as part of the

:10:37. > :10:41.negotiation getting under way is secure both of those people's

:10:42. > :10:47.rights. Do you accept the "Brexit" result, and the world that we are

:10:48. > :10:50.operating in? It is important to accept the result of the referendum

:10:51. > :10:53.and I think as a country, we need to make sure that we negotiate an exit

:10:54. > :10:59.that is the exit that the British people want. And what was that? I

:11:00. > :11:03.don't think the British people voted to stop universities working across

:11:04. > :11:07.Europe, and research project, and I don't think the vote was a rejection

:11:08. > :11:12.of the single market, I think that the referendum was absolutely fought

:11:13. > :11:16.on issues around immigration, that is the conversation we should be

:11:17. > :11:21.having. What do you think should happen to levels of migration? I

:11:22. > :11:25.think the concern that I certainly heard from my constituency voted out

:11:26. > :11:29.was a lot to do with job security, something that Theresa May has said.

:11:30. > :11:34.What about levels of migration, the numbers, that is what a lot of

:11:35. > :11:37.people want to know. The levels of migration itself was not something I

:11:38. > :11:42.had raised with me. What you they should be? We need to make sure that

:11:43. > :11:47.we have a level of migration that means we can run public services, we

:11:48. > :11:51.need to accept that the NHS needs to have EU workers, EU nurses, working

:11:52. > :11:54.in hospitals, doctors, we need the best and brightest from around the

:11:55. > :11:58.world. Hundreds of thousands or tens of thousands? I'm not going to put a

:11:59. > :12:03.number on that, that is something that as a country we need to look at

:12:04. > :12:12.with the facts. We need to speak with Simon Segars, around how

:12:13. > :12:16.many... You accept the Brexit vote was about immigration. Yes, it was

:12:17. > :12:21.about levels of immigration. -- Simon Stephens. Shouldn't the Labour

:12:22. > :12:26.Party have a number in terms of immigration, if that is what people

:12:27. > :12:29.were voting upon? The number itself is not important, people need to

:12:30. > :12:33.know that their jobs are secure and wages will not be undercut but we

:12:34. > :12:37.have levels of migration which means that we can deliver the world-class

:12:38. > :12:41.NHS that we all know and love. Perhaps you do not want to give a

:12:42. > :12:44.figure because it is difficult to keep to the figure, as we have

:12:45. > :12:49.experienced under a Conservative government, tens of thousands, when

:12:50. > :12:53.Theresa May was Home Secretary was not achieved by any margin. While

:12:54. > :12:57.you are within the EU single market with freedom of movement and given

:12:58. > :13:00.that our economy has been performing, latest job figures out,

:13:01. > :13:03.another fall in the people out of work, while you are in the single

:13:04. > :13:08.market and the economy is doing very well and the Eurozone less well,

:13:09. > :13:13.clearly it has not been possible to achieve the commitment. Why are you

:13:14. > :13:16.continuing tens of thousands as a target? As a country we have taken

:13:17. > :13:20.the decision to leave the EU, we will not be able to do it

:13:21. > :13:24.immediately, we will not be leaving... What is the level of

:13:25. > :13:31.non-EU migration as it stand? There is further action... It is 150,000.

:13:32. > :13:34.It is not just that, there are concerns about infrastructure,

:13:35. > :13:38.keeping up with population growth, there are concerns about integration

:13:39. > :13:41.into societies, a range of issues around immigration, not just

:13:42. > :13:45.numbers, you cannot say that numbers are not a part of it. Ayew clear

:13:46. > :13:51.that the government must stick to the number of tens of thousands?

:13:52. > :13:53.Boris Johnson and Amber Rudd are refusing to state or restate that

:13:54. > :13:59.commitment. Yes, we made a promise, we must be honest, while we are

:14:00. > :14:02.still in the EU, we will not be able to achieve that given free movement,

:14:03. > :14:07.but the longer term objective should be to achieve that. Boris Johnson

:14:08. > :14:11.said that we should not have a target at all because it will result

:14:12. > :14:14.in disappointing people. I stood on a manifesto, the policy of the

:14:15. > :14:18.government, we should be looking to achieve that. Should ministers in

:14:19. > :14:21.the government be restating what the policy is? And the ten has made it

:14:22. > :14:26.clear that we are committed to the target. They should make it clear,

:14:27. > :14:31.as Foreign Secretary and Home Secretary. We should be clear, about

:14:32. > :14:32.the government objective. -- as Foreign Secretary and Home

:14:33. > :14:45.Secretary. She wanted to land the top

:14:46. > :14:48.job in Labour politics but in the end the Eagle

:14:49. > :14:53.didn't even take off. Last night Angela Eagle pulled out

:14:54. > :14:56.of the Labour leadership contest, leaving the way clear

:14:57. > :14:58.for her colleague Owen Smith to go head to head with

:14:59. > :15:00.Jeremy Corbyn. This morning Owen Smith's

:15:01. > :15:02.been touring the TV studios I've grown up in the Labour

:15:03. > :15:13.movement, I understand what we're We want a more equal, socially just,

:15:14. > :15:17.economically fair society. We want everybody to have

:15:18. > :15:19.opportunities. But we've got to have

:15:20. > :15:21.concrete ideas to do that. What we need to be great at

:15:22. > :15:28.is solutions. You know, yes, we're anti-austerity,

:15:29. > :15:31.but what does that mean? It means we've got to be

:15:32. > :15:33.pro-prosperity for everybody, It means we need to invest

:15:34. > :15:36.in this country, so I'm saying let's

:15:37. > :15:38.have a British new deal. We're joined now

:15:39. > :15:40.by the Labour MP Chris Bryant, who is an Owen Smith supporter,

:15:41. > :15:52.and Cat Smith is still here. Owen Smith is not going to win, is

:15:53. > :16:03.he? Already we have seen polling that suggest Jeremy Corbyn is 56% to

:16:04. > :16:06.Owen's 36, is it? Only 30% of Labour members said they had even heard of

:16:07. > :16:11.Owen Smith, he has got a mountain to climb. You have already decided who

:16:12. > :16:17.is going to win, and I don't think it's like that. The numbers indicate

:16:18. > :16:20.that. Opinion polls, before it was known who the candidate was going to

:16:21. > :16:25.be, probably not a very good guide to what the eventual result will be.

:16:26. > :16:30.In my constituency party, we had a meeting ten days ago, there were new

:16:31. > :16:33.members of the Labour Party who joined a year ago, I had never met

:16:34. > :16:37.them before, I have spoken to them on a fun, but many of them are

:16:38. > :16:41.saying, I joined the party to support Jeremy Corbyn but it is not

:16:42. > :16:48.working, we are not a credible opposition with Jeremy as leader,

:16:49. > :16:51.and I think he should go. So I think the Labour Party is changing very

:16:52. > :16:56.rapidly, and I think people will want to take a long, hard look at

:16:57. > :17:00.where the party is, and in the end it is either continuity Corbyn, with

:17:01. > :17:03.all the problems of the last ten months, not able to mount a proper

:17:04. > :17:08.opposition, or press the recent button with a new leader. That is an

:17:09. > :17:11.important point, the idea that it is not a credible opposition is

:17:12. > :17:15.something Jeremy Corbyn was passionate about, he criticised the

:17:16. > :17:22.Neil Kinnock for not being credible, John Smith for not being credible

:17:23. > :17:25.opposition, so when the accusation comes from 172 of his own MPs, he is

:17:26. > :17:30.in trouble. There is no denying that the Labour Party is not punching as

:17:31. > :17:34.it should be against the Government right now, we are not doing our job,

:17:35. > :17:39.holding the Government to account. I would agree with you on that, but it

:17:40. > :17:43.really does need the Labour Party in Westminster to come together to make

:17:44. > :17:49.that happen, and what we have seen... The specific allegation is

:17:50. > :17:52.that it is Jeremy Corbyn who was not the effective opposition. Politics

:17:53. > :17:57.is never about one person, it is about policies and ideas and the

:17:58. > :18:00.collective, and that is a very important part of the Labour

:18:01. > :18:07.movement. Me and Chris both have so much that we agree on, and if we

:18:08. > :18:11.work together, we are more powerful. Sorry, I did not want to talk over

:18:12. > :18:15.you, but what is absolutely right is that we need to be a team, but you

:18:16. > :18:19.need to have a leader who is building a team, and I desperately

:18:20. > :18:23.wanted to make it work with Jeremy when you asked me to be in his

:18:24. > :18:27.Shadow Cabinet, but I sat in meeting after meeting and said, in meeting

:18:28. > :18:32.after meeting we have to put a much more convincing case on Europe in

:18:33. > :18:39.the referendum, and a speech after speech that Jeremy Naylor undermined

:18:40. > :18:43.the campaign. He is not able to deliver that opposition, and he

:18:44. > :18:47.never crafts a team. Isn't the fact that he helped not been able to

:18:48. > :18:50.build it yet and will not be able to build it now? I would disagree, I

:18:51. > :18:56.think the strength of the Labour Party is with our members, and over

:18:57. > :18:59.250,000 of them did vote for Jeremy Corbyn, and some of those will have

:19:00. > :19:03.changed their mind, as Chris pointed out earlier, but many more people

:19:04. > :19:08.have come into the party because they feel inspired by the idea is

:19:09. > :19:12.that he has put forward, and we have changed the party and his

:19:13. > :19:15.leadership, and we are now an anti-austerity party, and I believe

:19:16. > :19:20.that we connect much more easily with our electors and on the

:19:21. > :19:25.doorstep those conversations are a whole lot easier. But the idea that

:19:26. > :19:31.he is inspiring, whips in your party nominated Owen Smith, people on the

:19:32. > :19:35.front bench nominated Owen Smith. They clearly do not think, and I

:19:36. > :19:38.have heard this from one of your colleagues, referring to Owen Smith

:19:39. > :19:44.as Blair likes - so anyone who does not agree with Jeremy is a Blairite?

:19:45. > :19:49.I find that term really an helpful, Blairite. He has left front line

:19:50. > :19:55.politics for all the time I have been active. I joined the party

:19:56. > :20:01.under Blair, but he left shortly afterwards. No cause there! But I

:20:02. > :20:06.think we need to move on as a party and drop that term, Blairite. Chris,

:20:07. > :20:11.supporters are trying to move on from something they think does not

:20:12. > :20:17.work. We are all trying to move on from that, and we are in a different

:20:18. > :20:20.space than we were back in 2006, when Blair left. I don't think

:20:21. > :20:24.Jeremy can do it, that is the difference between us. I accept that

:20:25. > :20:29.we have to press the reset button, we cannot be the party we were 15

:20:30. > :20:32.years ago, because the world has moved on. There are massive issues

:20:33. > :20:37.we need to take on now, following the Brexit vote and so on, and we

:20:38. > :20:42.have got to listen hard to what voters said during that campaign, in

:20:43. > :20:46.the forgotten part of this country, what feels like the left side parts

:20:47. > :20:50.of this country, which includes my own constituency in the Rhondda. I

:20:51. > :20:56.think Owen is ideally suited to do that job, but what he can do which

:20:57. > :21:01.Jeremy cannot is unite the party. What unifies both of you is that you

:21:02. > :21:04.are in a real Catch-22. Jeremy Corbyn cannot control the Labour

:21:05. > :21:07.Party as it is at the moment in Parliament, he has a real problem

:21:08. > :21:11.with that, and you cannot necessarily find a candidate who can

:21:12. > :21:16.defeat that overwhelming majority of members who wanted Jeremy Corbyn.

:21:17. > :21:22.You are both stuck in a party that is in crisis. I'm not sure that is

:21:23. > :21:27.right, because I think Owen can and will win this election. Lots of

:21:28. > :21:30.people do not yet know him, lots of Labour members, but what they have

:21:31. > :21:34.seen of him they like. I think they will be convinced, that we need to

:21:35. > :21:41.move on, that we can take the fight to this chap... Who was Bobby

:21:42. > :21:47.sitting here enjoy all of this! It is not good for the country not to

:21:48. > :21:52.have an effective opposition. There are so few people left on the Labour

:21:53. > :21:55.front bench that they cannot form an effective opposition. It is

:21:56. > :21:58.important that we are a Parliamentary democracy, it is not

:21:59. > :22:03.just about the leader, it is about being able to create a whole team.

:22:04. > :22:07.Owen can build a whole team which is an alternative government in

:22:08. > :22:12.waiting. I want to get Cat in on this, he has threatened, if he does

:22:13. > :22:16.not win, I know you don't want to accept that possibility, but the

:22:17. > :22:21.Labour Party could split. He hasn't said that. Would it be his fault if

:22:22. > :22:25.it did? No, I said to Jeremy in the conversations I had with him, you

:22:26. > :22:31.are the only person who can break this logjam. But I think that Owen,

:22:32. > :22:35.by taking the Labour Party and building a team of people that

:22:36. > :22:39.includes people of diverse opinions, and I think Cat is right, there is

:22:40. > :22:46.no point talking about Blairite and Brownite, although Sterns. It is

:22:47. > :22:52.another millennium, frankly. -- all those terms. He said that split was

:22:53. > :22:56.a dangerously real threat. It is not anything that I would want to see,

:22:57. > :23:00.because it is a fact of life in our parliamentary system that if you

:23:01. > :23:06.want to form a government, you have to be a broad coalition. Cat, he was

:23:07. > :23:10.offered the post of president of the Labour Party by Owen Smith, why

:23:11. > :23:14.wouldn't he take that? Jeremy has never wanted a grand title, that is

:23:15. > :23:18.not why he ran to be leader of the Labour Party, he ran because he had

:23:19. > :23:22.ideas to change lives. Some honorary position... Does he want the grand

:23:23. > :23:27.title of Prime Minister, does he think he can get it? I don't think

:23:28. > :23:31.he craves the personal glory of office, if you would - it is more

:23:32. > :23:35.about being able to effect change, which is what the Labour Party is

:23:36. > :23:39.about. I have been knocking on doors for the Labour Party under four

:23:40. > :23:44.leaders, and whoever wins this election, and we do not know what

:23:45. > :23:50.the outcome will be, I will serve the leader of the Labour Party,

:23:51. > :23:55.because I am a Labour MP. You cannot change lives unless you are in

:23:56. > :23:59.government, and I do not think Jeremy is capable of that. You

:24:00. > :24:04.always wanted the last word, and you got it, Chris Bryant! Don't do that

:24:05. > :24:06.base! Why not?! Now, our guest of the day,

:24:07. > :24:08.Gavin Barwell, is the newly appointed

:24:09. > :24:09.Housing Minister, and he takes up his post in the

:24:10. > :24:13.midst of a serious housing crisis. I speak of course of the shortage

:24:14. > :24:15.of grace-and-favour country houses which means that

:24:16. > :24:17.Chevening House in Kent will have be shared by the

:24:18. > :24:20.Foreign Secretary, Boris Johnson, and the International

:24:21. > :24:27.Trade Secretary, Liam Fox. The three will somehow

:24:28. > :24:29.have to squeeze into the 115-room

:24:30. > :24:33.Grade II listed mansion, and, more serious, word has reached

:24:34. > :24:37.us here on the Daily Politics that there may not be enough

:24:38. > :24:41.cups and saucers to go round for all three of Her Majesty's

:24:42. > :24:43.Secretaries of State to enjoy afternoon tea

:24:44. > :24:46.at the same time. But don't panic,

:24:47. > :24:48.Boris, David and Liam. If you keep watching,

:24:49. > :24:51.there will be no need to turn a housing crisis

:24:52. > :24:58.into a crockery crisis. We'll tell you how

:24:59. > :25:00.to enter in a moment, but first, can you tell us

:25:01. > :25:04.when this happened? A new political party will be

:25:05. > :25:06.launched tomorrow, # Baby, you and me got

:25:07. > :25:19.a groovy kind of love... # # I should be so lucky,

:25:20. > :25:23.lucky, lucky, lucky # I should be so lucky,

:25:24. > :25:33.lucky, lucky, lucky... # # We'll be together, nobody ain't

:25:34. > :25:38.never gonna disconnect us # Or ever separate us or

:25:39. > :25:44.say to us you've got to stop # Stand there where you are

:25:45. > :25:46.before you go too far # Before you make

:25:47. > :25:50.a fool of love... # # Don't turn around cos you can

:25:51. > :25:55.see my heart breaking # Don't turn around,

:25:56. > :26:00.I don't want you seeing me crying # Just walk away, it's tearing me

:26:01. > :26:05.apart that you're leaving... # Mr Paisley, I now exclude

:26:06. > :26:35.you from this house! Everyone who comes into this studio

:26:36. > :26:37.says, can we keep it?! No, you can't!

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:26:49. > :26:58.You read that very well, that is normally my peace!

:26:59. > :27:02.It's coming up to midday here - just take a look at Big Ben -

:27:03. > :27:05.and that can mean only one thing, yes, Prime Minister's Questions -

:27:06. > :27:06.Theresa May's first Prime Minister's Questions -

:27:07. > :27:09.and as it is her first, we thought we would remind you

:27:10. > :27:11.of how her predecessors dealt with their first appearances

:27:12. > :27:18.at the despatch box as Prime Minister.

:27:19. > :27:25.When the new Prime Minister arrives to the fervent jeers of a

:27:26. > :27:32.Conservative Party, just relieved to have the whole messy business of the

:27:33. > :27:39.succession over... Sits down, please!

:27:40. > :27:47.Now, wait a while. Will he accept that the populist taxi proposals on

:27:48. > :27:54.fat cats would in fact be a tax that hits most those who have least? I

:27:55. > :27:58.shall resist the temptation to say that was the sound bite since I

:27:59. > :28:04.know... Since I have IP link are used to use a few of those myself at

:28:05. > :28:12.one time! -- I have a feeling. I have been in this job for five

:28:13. > :28:16.days... In our happy coalition, they will have the right to abstain on

:28:17. > :28:21.it, and in terms of the grand, I do not have a specific answer for

:28:22. > :28:22.her... It is a funny old thing, I will give accurate answers, rather

:28:23. > :28:25.than make them up on the spot! And for his first PMQ's appearance

:28:26. > :28:34.on the Daily Politics sofa as deputy political editor,

:28:35. > :28:42.we're joined by John Pienaar. Welcome, what about the style of

:28:43. > :28:45.Theresa May, what are you expecting? It will be very different from

:28:46. > :28:49.anything we have seen and David Cameron's era. When it comes to the

:28:50. > :28:53.joust across the floor, we are used to the rapier as the weapon of

:28:54. > :28:56.choice, the flashing blade, quick one-liners. We will have to get used

:28:57. > :29:03.to something quite different. Their weapon of choice, to torture this

:29:04. > :29:08.analogy, is the mace and chain. Traditional weapon, then! She will

:29:09. > :29:11.be looking to land a blow or two, Jeremy Corbyn has to joust a bit, it

:29:12. > :29:15.is not just her first appearance, it is the last before the recess, and

:29:16. > :29:20.you get that kind of jousting going on on this occasion. I am told she

:29:21. > :29:24.has one two lines in a back pocket, which I am also told that she dreamt

:29:25. > :29:32.up herself. You didn't have speech writers with her overnight? She has

:29:33. > :29:34.her team, the chief of staff, a policy adviser was there, Alex

:29:35. > :29:38.Dawson, and her Parliamentary aide, all around the table, drilling her

:29:39. > :29:41.for questions, not playing roles, as we have seen in the past, but just

:29:42. > :29:46.checking questions that she can bat away in the way that she does. But

:29:47. > :29:55.she is not lightning fast, low like a butterfly, sting like a be dumb

:29:56. > :29:59.act bee. I think she will be a swinging mace, so when Jeremy Corbyn

:30:00. > :30:03.engages, she will swing, he will be lit. Difficult for Jeremy Corbyn

:30:04. > :30:07.across the despatch box, because he always wanted a less combative

:30:08. > :30:14.style, will it be harder to perform that kind of swimming tarmac

:30:15. > :30:18.swinging mace at him when he is less fiery? Yeah, the first point is, it

:30:19. > :30:21.is as interesting to watch the leaders and their relationship with

:30:22. > :30:25.backbenchers as anything across the chamber. He is on the line, his

:30:26. > :30:26.leadership and authority is on the line. Theresa May could not be more

:30:27. > :31:15.secure. We will cover a number of pressing

:31:16. > :31:16.international issues and tomorrow I shall visit Paris for some of the

:31:17. > :31:27.discussions with Francois Hollande. , Warmly welcome the Prime Minister

:31:28. > :31:35.to her place and can I also ask, given her unwavering commitment to

:31:36. > :31:39.deliver economic stability and national security, in our United

:31:40. > :31:42.Kingdom's interest, does she welcome Monday's emphatic vote in this house

:31:43. > :32:06.for the Trident successor programme? Can I thank my honourable friend for

:32:07. > :32:12.his kind remarks, and thank him for enthusiastic the welcoming the

:32:13. > :32:16.debate in this house to renew the nuclear deterrent, showing that we

:32:17. > :32:19.have not only committed to our own national security but also consider

:32:20. > :32:25.the security of our European and Nato allies. We can now get on with

:32:26. > :32:33.the essential job of renewing our nuclear deterrent, and can I thank

:32:34. > :32:40.those on 140 Labour members of Parliament, who put the national

:32:41. > :32:46.interest first. And who voted to renew the nuclear deterrent. Jeremy

:32:47. > :32:49.Corbyn. Thank you, Mr Speaker, can I welcome the right honourable member

:32:50. > :32:53.to her first PMQs, and congratulate her on her appointment and becoming

:32:54. > :32:58.the country's second woman Prime Minister. I hope that she will agree

:32:59. > :33:01.with me that this house and prime ministers Question Time should be an

:33:02. > :33:08.opportunity to debate seriously the issues that face our country and our

:33:09. > :33:11.place in the world. On the steps of Downing Street, she spoke very

:33:12. > :33:17.eloquently about fighting burning injustice... Yet, her last act as

:33:18. > :33:26.Home Secretary was to shut the Orgreave enquiry into the long

:33:27. > :33:31.grass. -- shove. The IPCC told Home Office officials that if it

:33:32. > :33:35.announced any action to set up an enquiry or any other investigation

:33:36. > :33:39.to investigate Orgreave, it would impact the Hillsborough

:33:40. > :33:43.investigation, that has been disputed, was Parliament misled?

:33:44. > :33:50.Will the Prime Minister now proceed with a full public enquiry into the

:33:51. > :33:53.terrible events at Orgreave? Can I thank the right honourable gentleman

:33:54. > :33:58.for the welcome that he has given me, can I say to him, he refers to

:33:59. > :34:02.me as the second woman Prime Minister, in my years here in my

:34:03. > :34:07.house, I have long had the Labour Party asking what the Conservative

:34:08. > :34:18.Party does for women... LAUGHTER SHOUTING

:34:19. > :34:23.I welcome the comments he has made about prime ministers, we do make

:34:24. > :34:26.serious issues, I look forward to the exchanges that he and I will

:34:27. > :34:34.have and I hope that we will be having them over this dispatch box

:34:35. > :34:40.for many years to come! CHEERING As regards the Orgreave enquiry, the

:34:41. > :34:43.Shadow Home Secretary has an urgent question on that this afternoon,

:34:44. > :34:49.which the Home Secretary will be responding to. Jeremy Corbyn. The

:34:50. > :34:52.new Prime Minister also said on the steps of Downing Street,

:34:53. > :35:00." if you are young you will find it harder than ever before to own your

:35:01. > :35:05.own home". In 1998, more than half of working households of people aged

:35:06. > :35:09.16 to 34 were buying their own homes, now it is 25%, the resolution

:35:10. > :35:16.foundation suggests this wilful to 10% in the next nine years. What

:35:17. > :35:22.figure has the Prime Minister set herself for home ownership among

:35:23. > :35:25.young people? I know the timeline that has been referred to, he may

:35:26. > :35:31.have forgotten that during that period we had 13 years of a Labour

:35:32. > :35:35.government. 13 years of a Labour government which had a very bad

:35:36. > :35:39.record in terms of house-building. This is the government that is going

:35:40. > :35:43.to change that, this government is going to put more into building more

:35:44. > :35:44.homes, to ensure that young people do have a better opportunity to get

:35:45. > :35:49.on the housing ladder. That is why we are a government that

:35:50. > :35:55.will be governing for everybody in this country. CHEERING

:35:56. > :35:58.That Labour government put a decent house standard in place in every

:35:59. > :36:05.part of this country. -- home standard. I am not sure... SHOUTING

:36:06. > :36:07.I am not sure, Mr Speaker, that starter homes

:36:08. > :36:13.at ?450,000 for young people earning 7% less than their parents

:36:14. > :36:18.generation is actually a very good prospect for people owning their own

:36:19. > :36:21.homes. The Prime Minister is rightly concerned, Mr Speaker, she said

:36:22. > :36:25.this, if you are black you are treated more harshly than if you are

:36:26. > :36:28.white. Before appointing her new Foreign Secretary, did she discuss

:36:29. > :36:35.with him his description of black people as you can in these and why

:36:36. > :36:46.he questioned the motives of the US president, Barack Obama, on his part

:36:47. > :36:55.Kenyan heritage? -- like people as piccaninnies. I have sat on these

:36:56. > :36:59.benches and heard him raise that with the right honourable friend for

:37:00. > :37:03.Whitney, when he was Prime Minister, on a number of occasions. Let nukes

:37:04. > :37:06.blamed this, if you look at house prices across the country, they

:37:07. > :37:12.vary, in Liverpool, the average house price is ?116,000, in London,

:37:13. > :37:18.the average house price is just over ?676,000. That is why we have a

:37:19. > :37:23.higher limit for the starter home figure in London, if he objects to

:37:24. > :37:26.that, he needs to tell his constituents why he is against them

:37:27. > :37:33.having opportunities to get on the housing market? He refers to the

:37:34. > :37:36.remarks that I made, and it is correct, if you are black you will

:37:37. > :37:39.be treated more harshly in the criminal justice system, it is

:37:40. > :37:47.exactly why, as Home Secretary, I dealt with the issue of stop and

:37:48. > :37:50.search, I was concerned to make sure that nobody should be stopped and

:37:51. > :37:54.searched on the streets of this country because of the colour of

:37:55. > :38:03.their skin. I did that as a conservative, 13 years of Labour did

:38:04. > :38:05.nothing on it. Jeremy Corbyn. My question was about the language used

:38:06. > :38:12.by the Foreign Secretary, earlier this week, the new Chancellor

:38:13. > :38:16.abandoned the budget surplus target. As Labour has long called for. Her

:38:17. > :38:22.government is already missing targets on debt, deficit, welfare

:38:23. > :38:27.count and productivity. Six years of government austerity has failed. The

:38:28. > :38:35.long-term economic plan is clearly dead. Is there a new one? It is the

:38:36. > :38:41.long-term economic plan that has delivered the record level of

:38:42. > :38:44.employment that we see... CHEERING Perhaps I could put the right

:38:45. > :38:47.honourable gentleman straight, we have not abandoned the intention to

:38:48. > :38:51.move to a surplus, what I have said is that we will not be targeting

:38:52. > :38:56.that at the end of this Parliament. He uses the language of austerity...

:38:57. > :39:06.Can I say this to him, he talks about austerity, I call it living

:39:07. > :39:10.within our means. CHEERING He talks about austerity, in fact it

:39:11. > :39:15.is about not saddling children and grandchildren with significant debts

:39:16. > :39:19.to come. It is not about austerity, it is about ensuring we have an

:39:20. > :39:25.economy that works for everyone. Jeremy Corbyn. Jobless claims have

:39:26. > :39:30.risen for the fourth month in a row, welfare claims have risen as well.

:39:31. > :39:34.Austerity actually means people being poorer, services being cut,

:39:35. > :39:39.and local facilities being closed. In her speech on the steps of

:39:40. > :39:42.Downing Street, she also addressed insecure workers, saying, you have a

:39:43. > :39:51.job but you do not always have job security. SHOUTING

:39:52. > :39:57.Does that mean, to those people that are worried about their future in

:39:58. > :40:03.work... SHOUTING I am talking of the people that sent

:40:04. > :40:09.us here to serve them. Does that mean that she is proposing to scrap

:40:10. > :40:14.and lemon tribunal fees, band zero hours contracts, repeal the trade

:40:15. > :40:18.union act, as more than a dozen European nations have already done,

:40:19. > :40:24.that would help to give greater job security to many very worried people

:40:25. > :40:26.in this country. Again I say to the right honourable gentleman, I did

:40:27. > :40:30.say that on the streets of Downing Street, it is very important that

:40:31. > :40:34.here in this house, we consider not only what might be called the more

:40:35. > :40:39.of these injustices but consider the life for those people for whom they

:40:40. > :40:43.are in work but struggling to make ends meet. It is essential, that is

:40:44. > :40:46.one of the things that the government has done, it has raised

:40:47. > :40:52.the threshold at which people start to pay income tax, for example. It

:40:53. > :40:55.is also about making sure that we have more well-paid jobs in this

:40:56. > :41:02.country. That is also what the government is doing. I'm interested

:41:03. > :41:07.that he refers to the situation of some workers, who may have some job

:41:08. > :41:10.insecurity, and potentially, unscrupulous bosses, I suspect that

:41:11. > :41:14.there are many members on the opposition benches who may be

:41:15. > :41:17.familiar with an unscrupulous boss... LAUGHTER

:41:18. > :41:24.A boss who does not listen to his workers? SHOUTING

:41:25. > :41:29.Requires some of his workers to double their workload... SHOUTING

:41:30. > :41:36.LAUGHTER Maybe even a boss who exploits the

:41:37. > :41:49.rules to further his own career. Remind him of anybody? SHOUTING

:41:50. > :41:54.Mr Speaker, we are sent here to

:41:55. > :42:01.represent people. And there are many people in this country struggling

:42:02. > :42:05.with insecure jobs, with low wages, I know this is very funny for all

:42:06. > :42:10.Conservative members, but I don't suppose, I do not suppose there is

:42:11. > :42:14.too many Conservative MPs who have to go to a food bank in order to

:42:15. > :42:18.supplement their family table every week! I think that we should reflect

:42:19. > :42:25.upon those things. The Prime Minister highlighted the failures of

:42:26. > :42:29.her predecessor, on social justice, homeownership, education and the

:42:30. > :42:33.cost of living. Some might say that as a cabinet minister, she too was

:42:34. > :42:37.responsible for that but she empathised with working people when

:42:38. > :42:40.she said, " I know you are working around the clock, I know you are

:42:41. > :42:44.doing your best, I know that sometimes life can be a struggle".

:42:45. > :42:49.Yesterday the IFA has found that two thirds of children living in poverty

:42:50. > :42:54.in Britain have at least one parent in work. -- IFS. What, other than

:42:55. > :42:59.warm words, is she going to offer those families, those children, who

:43:00. > :43:04.are hungry often and very insecure in their living? Isn't it our duty

:43:05. > :43:16.to offer some hope and security to them? We are concerned about those

:43:17. > :43:17.people but the answer is not unlimited uncapped welfare, as the

:43:18. > :43:23.Labour Party say, the answer for people who are

:43:24. > :43:26.in work and struggling in work and the answer for those that want to

:43:27. > :43:31.get into work is to have a strong economy, an economy which delivers

:43:32. > :43:34.jobs and well-paid jobs, and that is why I can assure the right

:43:35. > :43:38.honourable gentleman that on this side of the house, we are focused

:43:39. > :43:42.upon building a country which works for everyone, an economy which

:43:43. > :43:46.ensures that everyone can benefit from the nation's 12, a society

:43:47. > :43:50.where everyone gets the opportunities they deserve, and a

:43:51. > :43:54.democracy that everyone can have faith in. And finally, I say to the

:43:55. > :43:58.right honourable gentleman, the Labour Party may be about to spend

:43:59. > :44:02.several months of fighting and tearing itself apart, the

:44:03. > :44:07.Conservative Party will be spending those months ringing this country

:44:08. > :44:11.back together. -- benefit from the nation's wealth.

:44:12. > :44:18.SHOUTING There will be more.

:44:19. > :44:24.I agree with the Prime Minister... SHOUTING

:44:25. > :44:34.CHEERING LAUGHTER

:44:35. > :44:40.We are leaving the EU and we are going to make a success of it, will

:44:41. > :44:45.the Prime Minister make my Day special by saying that she is

:44:46. > :44:49.prepared to reject staying in the single regulated market, and

:44:50. > :44:55.offering instead to our friends in Europe a free-trade deal, very much

:44:56. > :45:05.in their interests, let's take back control! I'm tempted to say that

:45:06. > :45:09.after that... Aisha Praught be sit down and enjoy that for the rest of

:45:10. > :45:14.the day... My honourable friend has made my day. -- I should probably

:45:15. > :45:18.sit down and enjoy that the rest of the day. Happy birthday to him, I

:45:19. > :45:23.should say that, and as we look at the result of the referendum, I am

:45:24. > :45:27.very clear that Brexit means Brexit, we will make a success of it, what

:45:28. > :45:31.we need to do in negotiating the deal is listen to what people have

:45:32. > :45:35.said about the need for controlled on free movement but also negotiate

:45:36. > :45:45.the right deal and the best deal of trade in goods and services for the

:45:46. > :45:54.British people. Angus Roberts and. -- Angus Robertson.

:45:55. > :46:01.The German vice Chancellor has already confirmed how Scotland is

:46:02. > :46:05.able to remain in the European Union. Did the Prime Minister

:46:06. > :46:08.discussed this when she met with First Minister Nicola Sturgeon

:46:09. > :46:18.Wenzhou was in Edinburgh, and will she do everything to ensure that

:46:19. > :46:22.remain means remain for Scotland? -- when she was in Edinburgh. Can I

:46:23. > :46:26.thank the right honourable gentleman for his comments and the recognition

:46:27. > :46:30.that he showed the support for my husband, and as he said then, we all

:46:31. > :46:39.rely on support from those around cum to do our jobs, and we should

:46:40. > :46:43.never forget that. I did discuss the arrangements for the UK leaving the

:46:44. > :46:47.EU, and I was very pleased that my first trip was to Scotland and that

:46:48. > :46:51.I was able to do it so early in my premiership, as I have been very

:46:52. > :46:56.clear, the Union is very important to me. I was also clear with the

:46:57. > :46:59.First Minister that I think there are some ideas being put forward

:47:00. > :47:02.that are impractical but I am willing to listen to the options

:47:03. > :47:07.that are brought forward, and we will be engaging fully with all the

:47:08. > :47:11.devolved add ministrations. Germany has the highest level of support of

:47:12. > :47:19.any continental European country for Scotland remaining in the European

:47:20. > :47:24.Union, so would the Prime Minister thank Chancellor Merkel for the

:47:25. > :47:30.interest of the members of her government and members of the

:47:31. > :47:33.Bundestag, their interest in having Scotland remaining within the EU,

:47:34. > :47:38.and will she assure the Chancellor and other heads of state and

:47:39. > :47:42.government that we in Scotland will do everything, everything that is

:47:43. > :47:49.necessary for us to remain in the EU? I have to say to the right

:47:50. > :47:54.honourable gentleman, because this is a line that he has been taking

:47:55. > :48:00.for some time. I do find it a little confusing, given that only two years

:48:01. > :48:03.ago in the Scottish referendum the SNP was campaigning for Scotland to

:48:04. > :48:11.leave the United Kingdom, which would have meant leaving the

:48:12. > :48:17.European Union. Daniel Kawczynski. Thank you, Mr Speaker. We all stand

:48:18. > :48:20.with the people of France, and particularly Nice, following the

:48:21. > :48:24.appalling terrorist act there last week. We'll be primers to update the

:48:25. > :48:27.House on how the security collaboration between our countries

:48:28. > :48:31.can help prevent such attacks in the future, and reassure the French

:48:32. > :48:35.people that although we are leaving the European Union, the close links

:48:36. > :48:41.between our two countries will remain steadfast? My honourable

:48:42. > :48:45.friend raises a very important topic, and as has been said in his

:48:46. > :48:48.House before, our thoughts are with all the people of France and the

:48:49. > :48:53.appalling attack that took place in Nice last week. We continue to work

:48:54. > :48:57.with the French authorities, both obviously in the aftermath of that

:48:58. > :49:01.attack, but my honourable friend is right that we need to continue our

:49:02. > :49:05.security co-operation with France and indeed other European countries.

:49:06. > :49:09.We will not be cowed by terrorists, we both faced the same threats, and

:49:10. > :49:14.we need to work together in order to defeat those threats. And I can

:49:15. > :49:17.absolutely confirm that, yes, the United Kingdom will leave the

:49:18. > :49:21.European Union, but the United Kingdom is not leaving Europe, and

:49:22. > :49:28.our co-operation will continue. Jamie Read. Can I welcome the Prime

:49:29. > :49:30.Minister to her place and wish you well in healing the country in the

:49:31. > :49:35.months and years to come? After all, it is she and her colleagues have so

:49:36. > :49:43.bitterly divided it. And can I thank too... Can I thank her too, Mr

:49:44. > :49:49.Speaker, for her wholehearted support and endorsement for official

:49:50. > :49:51.Labour Party policy on Trident? It is such a refreshing change to hear

:49:52. > :50:01.that from the despatch box! LAUGHTER

:50:02. > :50:08.As a type one diabetic and as a father and uncle to children with

:50:09. > :50:12.type 1 diabetes, and we have 500,000 people, 30,000 of them children in

:50:13. > :50:14.this country, can I thank the Prime Minister for the example she has

:50:15. > :50:19.shown to those people in demonstrating that this not hold us

:50:20. > :50:22.in anyway whatsoever? There is no doubt whatsoever, Mr Speaker, that

:50:23. > :50:32.the Prime Minister's predecessor found the NHS, left it in a much

:50:33. > :50:37.worse condition than he. Will the Prime Minister visits... Will the

:50:38. > :50:40.Prime Minister visit my constituency, to honour the promises

:50:41. > :50:45.made by the previous Prime Minister, and to stop the government cutting

:50:46. > :50:50.services there? Thank you, Mr Speaker. Can I say, the honourable

:50:51. > :50:55.gentleman makes a reference to divisions on the Conservative Party

:50:56. > :51:00.benches, no, which is the party that took three weeks to decide which

:51:01. > :51:06.should be that unity candidate? It was the Labour Party! Can I thank

:51:07. > :51:09.him for his remarks and type 1 diabetes as well. There are many

:51:10. > :51:12.youngsters from tiny tots to teenagers leaving with type 1

:51:13. > :51:16.diabetes, and it is important that we give the message to them that

:51:17. > :51:20.their future is not limited, they can do whatever they want. And he

:51:21. > :51:24.invites me, he is the first person in Prime Minister's Questions to

:51:25. > :51:28.invite me to visit his constituency, and I will look very closely at all

:51:29. > :51:32.invitations that I received in Prime Minister's Questions. I think it is

:51:33. > :51:37.important that decisions about local NHS services are taken at a local

:51:38. > :51:41.level, but I would remind him, as he made the point about the agreement

:51:42. > :51:44.between Conservative Party and Labour Party official policy on

:51:45. > :51:48.Trident, that where we did disagree at the election was it was the

:51:49. > :51:52.Conservative Party that agreed that we would put the money that was

:51:53. > :51:59.necessary into the NHS, the Labour Party refused to commit that. Thank

:52:00. > :52:04.you, Mr Speaker. Extremism takes many forms, from the atrocity in

:52:05. > :52:10.Nice to the violent murder by her own brother in Pakistan, justified

:52:11. > :52:14.as an honour killing. -- Qandeel Baloch. There were many examples of

:52:15. > :52:17.this in the UK over the last five years. Does the Prime Minister agree

:52:18. > :52:22.that such crimes are acts of terror, not honour, and which he directed

:52:23. > :52:26.that a new governor shows a lead for ending the use of the word honour to

:52:27. > :52:32.describe this vile act in order to stop any legitimacy to the idea that

:52:33. > :52:36.women are the property of men? -- and would she direct that her new

:52:37. > :52:40.government. This is an issue that resonate across this whole House,

:52:41. > :52:44.and she is absolutely right that extremism takes many forms, and in

:52:45. > :52:51.the counter-ruck stream is policy we are looking very widely across the

:52:52. > :52:56.breadth of extremism. -- counter extremism policy. We are looking at

:52:57. > :53:01.tackling the root causes of so-called honour based violence, and

:53:02. > :53:06.I absolutely agree that there is absolutely no honour in so-called

:53:07. > :53:12.honour based violence, it is a criminal act, pure and simple. Thank

:53:13. > :53:18.you, vista is bigger. I too would like to welcome the Prime Minister

:53:19. > :53:22.to her first Prime Minister's Question Time. -- Mr Speaker. I

:53:23. > :53:26.would like to ask you to listen to the head teachers of primary schools

:53:27. > :53:31.in my constituency. They tell me the weeds and unprecedented changes in

:53:32. > :53:34.primary education, including new sites, have lead to negative impact

:53:35. > :53:38.on the learning outcomes of children. -- the recent

:53:39. > :53:44.unprecedented changes. Will she urged the new Secretary of State to

:53:45. > :53:51.take these concerns forward? I thank the honourable lady for her welcome

:53:52. > :53:54.to me, and I think education right is absolutely crucial if we are

:53:55. > :53:59.going to ensure that people can take up the opportunities they deserve

:54:00. > :54:02.also have the aspiration to take up those opportunities. The new

:54:03. > :54:05.Education Secretary will be looking across the at the education

:54:06. > :54:10.provision that is in place, we have made important changes already over

:54:11. > :54:13.the last six years that are improving the quality of education.

:54:14. > :54:17.More children are getting the quality of education they need, but

:54:18. > :54:24.there is more for us to do, and we will be looking at that. In my

:54:25. > :54:28.constituency, Aerospace is vital importance, Rolls-Royce and boring

:54:29. > :54:34.over 1000 people at their site, but it is just important there what do

:54:35. > :54:36.the whole UK economy. Will the Prime Minister congratulate all the

:54:37. > :54:40.companies that attended the Farnborough airshow, on the deals

:54:41. > :54:44.they signed, and will she agree that with nearly ?100 billion of trade

:54:45. > :54:48.deals done this year, Britain is very much open for business? My

:54:49. > :54:52.honourable friend is absolutely right that Britain is open for

:54:53. > :54:56.business, and I know what an important role the aerospace

:54:57. > :54:59.industry plays in his constituency, but also in other constituencies

:55:00. > :55:05.across the country, and the importance of the Farnborough

:55:06. > :55:09.airshow, and the member for Aldershot was telling me what a

:55:10. > :55:15.great airshow it was. The Government committed there to generate a fund

:55:16. > :55:20.for research to ensure we retain our leading position in this sector, and

:55:21. > :55:24.as he said, there are a significant number of trade deals signed, and I

:55:25. > :55:29.would encourage other companies to go out and get that business. I wish

:55:30. > :55:33.to welcome the right honourable lady to her place. Newcastle Airport was

:55:34. > :55:38.voted best in Britain this week, but the good news that we are waiting

:55:39. > :55:42.for is a decision on Heathrow expansion. The Prime Minister knows

:55:43. > :55:46.that Britain needs to be open for business, so will she do better than

:55:47. > :55:54.dithering gave and give us a decision without delay? -- dithering

:55:55. > :55:58.Dave. I have some fond memories of Newcastle Airport from the time when

:55:59. > :56:02.I stood in the North West Durham constituency some years ago and made

:56:03. > :56:05.quite good use of Newcastle Airport, it has changed and expanded rather

:56:06. > :56:10.ever since. On Heathrow, the position has not changed. Obviously,

:56:11. > :56:13.the review work has been done, further work has been done in

:56:14. > :56:17.relation to the question of air quality around the various proposals

:56:18. > :56:25.that were put forward, and the Cabinet and the Government will be

:56:26. > :56:29.taking a decision in due course. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Based on

:56:30. > :56:36.analysis of a crime survey for England and Wales by the Children's

:56:37. > :56:39.Society, an estimated 113 16 and 17-year-old girls in my constituency

:56:40. > :56:44.have experienced a sexual offence in the last year. Given the progress

:56:45. > :56:48.made in tackling child sexual exploitation in the last few years,

:56:49. > :56:52.could my right honourable friend outline if government has plans to

:56:53. > :56:57.strengthen the protection for this particular vulnerable age group? My

:56:58. > :57:01.honourable friend raises a very important issue, we saw, obviously,

:57:02. > :57:04.in recent times the appalling circumstances in Rotherham in

:57:05. > :57:07.relation to child sexual exploitation, but as my honourable

:57:08. > :57:12.friend Guy Shone, in every constituency in the country there

:57:13. > :57:18.are young people being submitted to sexual offences. -- has shown. The

:57:19. > :57:22.Government has been working with all appropriate agencies to ensure we

:57:23. > :57:25.put greater support in place to provide an extra 7 million in

:57:26. > :57:28.funding to ensure victims of sexual abuse receive the right support,

:57:29. > :57:34.launched the whistle-blowing helpline to help authorities spot

:57:35. > :57:38.patterns of behaviour, and patterns of failure, and made child sexual

:57:39. > :57:41.abuse and expedition a national thread so police forces have a duty

:57:42. > :57:45.to collaborate to tackle this terrible crime. We will be

:57:46. > :57:50.strengthening our ravens in the coming months, we are all appalled

:57:51. > :57:58.by child sexual abuse, and we need to make sure we eradicate it. In her

:57:59. > :58:00.first statement on the steps of Downing Street, the Prime Minister

:58:01. > :58:04.stated that she would lead a government that would work for

:58:05. > :58:07.everyone of us. Since she became Prime Minister, I have tried

:58:08. > :58:13.unsuccessfully to get assurances on the continuation of the Northern

:58:14. > :58:17.schools strategy, along with the 80 million that was set aside for the

:58:18. > :58:23.Northern schools. Will she therefore give me that commitment today so

:58:24. > :58:29.that children in Bradford and the North can have the same chances as

:58:30. > :58:32.those in London and the South? Well, it is important that we ensure that

:58:33. > :58:35.across the country children are getting the opportunities that they

:58:36. > :58:38.deserve, and the quality of the education they receive is an

:58:39. > :58:45.important part of that, and the review that has taken place, which

:58:46. > :58:49.was launched in March, is making recommendations on the issue. What I

:58:50. > :58:51.can assure the honourable gentleman is that my right honourable friend

:58:52. > :58:57.the Education Secretary will be looking very carefully at the result

:58:58. > :59:00.of that review and will make the position in which the Government is

:59:01. > :59:08.going to take in response to those recommendations clear in due course.

:59:09. > :59:13.Stuart Andrew. Mr Speaker, crowing up on a council estate, it was tough

:59:14. > :59:20.coming out as a Conservative. -- growing up.

:59:21. > :59:25.LAUGHTER Difficult as it was, I understood

:59:26. > :59:29.then, as I do now, that only a Conservative government delivers

:59:30. > :59:34.real social mobility. Does my right honourable friend

:59:35. > :59:37.agree with me that if it is the job of this government to fight for such

:59:38. > :59:42.opportunities for the people of Britain, because the party opposite

:59:43. > :59:46.are too busy fighting each other? Well, my honourable friend puts it

:59:47. > :59:49.very well, and if you look at the Conservative benchers, as he says,

:59:50. > :59:54.we have Members of Parliament who were brought up in council houses,

:59:55. > :59:56.Conservative Members of Parliament brought up by single-parent

:59:57. > :00:02.families. The chairman of the Conservative Party is a former

:00:03. > :00:07.miner. It is this party that is looking at opportunity for all, and

:00:08. > :00:10.that certainly, I am very clear that the Government I lead will be driven

:00:11. > :00:15.not by the interests of the privileged few but by the interests

:00:16. > :00:18.of everyone in this country, not entrenching the advantages of a

:00:19. > :00:22.privileged few in terms of opportunity, but extending

:00:23. > :00:27.opportunity to all. Steward led Donaldson. Thank you, Mr Speaker.

:00:28. > :00:33.Whatever your politics, one cannot help but be inspired by the image

:00:34. > :00:36.last week of the female Prime Minister of UK meeting the female

:00:37. > :00:39.First Minister of Scotland, a message to girls everywhere that

:00:40. > :00:42.they can achieve anything they want. Does the Prime Minister agree that

:00:43. > :00:46.to do this girls and women should be able to live free from gender race

:00:47. > :00:51.violence and domestic abuse, and will she commit to supporting the

:00:52. > :00:55.bill of my honourable friend for Banff and Buchan and ratify the

:00:56. > :00:57.Istanbul convention? Can I say to the honourable gentleman that I

:00:58. > :01:05.think it is an important symbol for girls and young women to see women

:01:06. > :01:08.in positions as Prime Minister and First Minister, and I respect the

:01:09. > :01:13.First Minister of Scotland, we had a very constructive first meeting. We

:01:14. > :01:16.will disagree on some issues, but we will work practically and

:01:17. > :01:20.pragmatically together. I think it is important to deal with the issues

:01:21. > :01:27.of gender violence and domestic violence against women and girls.

:01:28. > :01:31.That is why the add has a strategy that is being taken on by my right

:01:32. > :01:36.honourable friend the Home Secretary now. -- why the Government has. We

:01:37. > :01:40.have a good record for putting in place domestic violence protection

:01:41. > :01:46.orders, but there is always more to do, and we will be doing that.

:01:47. > :01:53.Can I welcome one right honourable friend to her place, if it is not

:01:54. > :01:59.too untoward to say, I declare it as game, set and match to her this

:02:00. > :02:04.afternoon. Can I tell my right... Can I tell my right honourable

:02:05. > :02:08.friend that last week, when I met local NFU representatives in North

:02:09. > :02:12.Dorset, they understood what we were doing in delivering Brexit, but they

:02:13. > :02:15.were keen to ensure that the needs of agriculture and British farmers

:02:16. > :02:22.are front and centre in those discussions and that their interests

:02:23. > :02:26.are considered. Can I invite my honourable friend to make that

:02:27. > :02:29.commitment today? I'm very happy to make that commitment, as we look at

:02:30. > :02:33.the position I will be taking in negotiations to leaving for the UK

:02:34. > :02:39.leaving the European Union, we will be consulting widely, agriculture is

:02:40. > :02:42.a sector which is particularly affected by Brexit, and I can assure

:02:43. > :02:46.my honourable friend that we will be consulting with and listening to the

:02:47. > :02:51.views of farmers and others involved in the food industry and

:02:52. > :02:55.agricultural sector. Can I congratulate the right honourable

:02:56. > :02:58.lady on becoming Prime Minister. I gently remind her of the

:02:59. > :03:02.conversation we had a few weeks ago, when I said she would come through

:03:03. > :03:07.the middle and trounce the men standing for that position. So I was

:03:08. > :03:11.right! LAUGHTER I also said I was going to put some

:03:12. > :03:16.money on her, unfortunately I never got around to it, because the odds

:03:17. > :03:19.were very good at the time. Can I ask the Prime Minister is very

:03:20. > :03:23.serious question about the younger generation, millennials, so many of

:03:24. > :03:30.them in this country believe they are citizens of Europe, they had the

:03:31. > :03:35.ability to travel, to work, and to be true Europeans, will she soon

:03:36. > :03:38.give them her vision of how that reality, as European citizens, can

:03:39. > :03:44.be delivered even in the present circumstance? I think the honourable

:03:45. > :03:51.gentleman, I do indeed remember the conversation where he said I would

:03:52. > :03:54.trounce the men, as he said it, the Conservative Party came up with an

:03:55. > :04:00.all woman short list, without being quiet to do so, if I may say...

:04:01. > :04:04.LAUGHTER He raises an important point about

:04:05. > :04:10.the younger generation, what I would say is this, as I said in response

:04:11. > :04:14.to my noble friend, the member for Shrewsbury Town Acton, we are

:04:15. > :04:20.leaving the European Union but not leaving Europe, we will be setting

:04:21. > :04:23.out the negotiating position in terms of our relationship to the

:04:24. > :04:26.European Union, over the coming weeks and months, I would also say

:04:27. > :04:31.this to the young people that he talks about, actually, we should not

:04:32. > :04:36.be limiting their opportunities and their horizons by just looking at

:04:37. > :04:40.Europe. This country will be making a success of Brexit because we will

:04:41. > :04:44.be out there in the world, as an outward looking, expansive country

:04:45. > :04:50.with opportunities around the globe. Philip Davies. I warmly welcome the

:04:51. > :04:53.Prime Minister to her post, unlike dithering Barry, opposite, I did

:04:54. > :05:02.place a bet on her becoming the next leader. I apologise to the Minister

:05:03. > :05:06.for clearly having my phone off when she was calling me to be a part of

:05:07. > :05:10.the front bench of government(!) LAUGHTER

:05:11. > :05:14.Reason why the people of Yorkshire voted overwhelmingly to leave, was

:05:15. > :05:16.due to control in immigration, and the Prime Minister reassure the

:05:17. > :05:21.people of Yorkshire that when we finally do leave the European Union,

:05:22. > :05:25.she will insist upon keeping her original promise to get the

:05:26. > :05:31.immigration figures down into this country into the tens of thousands.

:05:32. > :05:37.I say to my honourable friend, I am very clear that the vote that was

:05:38. > :05:40.taken in this country on the 23rd of June sent a very clear message about

:05:41. > :05:43.immigration, that people want control of free movement from the

:05:44. > :05:48.European Union, and that is precisely what we will be doing and

:05:49. > :05:51.ensuring that we get that in the negotiations that we will be

:05:52. > :05:56.undertaking. I also remain absolutely firm in my belief that we

:05:57. > :05:58.need to bring net migration down to sustainable levels, the government

:05:59. > :06:05.believes that is tens of thousands... It will take some time

:06:06. > :06:10.to get there, but of course, now, we have the added aspect of those

:06:11. > :06:16.controls that we can bring in relation to people moving from the

:06:17. > :06:34.European Union. Finally, Mr Tim Fallon. Thanks. You all very kind. I

:06:35. > :06:37.would like to warmly welcome the promise to her position, she has

:06:38. > :06:41.come a long way since we were on the hustings together in North West

:06:42. > :06:45.Durham, she will reflect that she is possessing greater support in this

:06:46. > :06:51.chamber than either of us got in Consett working men 's club. -- --

:06:52. > :06:55.Tim Farron. Today there are reports that the new Grexit law meat unit

:06:56. > :07:01.will be hiring lawyers at the cost of ?5,000 per head per day, will the

:07:02. > :07:05.Prime Minister be using the mythical ?350 million to pay the legal fees,

:07:06. > :07:11.or is that still pencilled in for the NHS, as promised by cabinet

:07:12. > :07:15.colleagues who campaign for leave? It is absolute right that we create

:07:16. > :07:19.a new department to focus upon the work of negotiating the United

:07:20. > :07:22.Kingdom leaving the European Union and that department will need to

:07:23. > :07:27.have the expertise necessary to undertake those negotiations, I say

:07:28. > :07:30.to the right honourable gentleman, I am very happy to remember the days

:07:31. > :07:34.that he and I spent campaigning in that parliament in the general

:07:35. > :07:37.election, little did the voters of North West Durham know that the two

:07:38. > :07:41.candidates, unsuccessful candidates, in that election, would become

:07:42. > :07:44.leaders of two of this country's political parties, although as I

:07:45. > :07:48.would point out to the right honourable gentleman, my party is a

:07:49. > :07:54.little bit bigger than his is... CHEERING

:07:55. > :08:06.LAUGHTER Order.

:08:07. > :08:12.That marked the end of Theresa May's first prime ministers questions,

:08:13. > :08:15.strong performance, fairly strong performance, we will hear what you

:08:16. > :08:18.thought in a moment, recapping on some of the substance, she started

:08:19. > :08:22.off saying that unemployment has come down, wages have gone up, and

:08:23. > :08:27.welcomed the vote on Trident renewal, while thanking the 140

:08:28. > :08:31.Labour MPs for backing the government on this, making it

:08:32. > :08:35.uncomfortable for Jeremy Corbyn. He actually then sort of forensically

:08:36. > :08:39.dissected Theresa May's speech which she made on the steps of Downing

:08:40. > :08:44.Street, trying to get her to match the rhetoric on issues like social

:08:45. > :08:48.justice with action. Also raised calls for the Orgreave enquiry,

:08:49. > :08:53.which was into policing, handling the miners strike in 1984, we will

:08:54. > :08:57.have a bit on that later on. Talk about homeownership, if you are

:08:58. > :09:00.black you are more likely to be treated more harshly than if you are

:09:01. > :09:03.white, something that she said in the criminal justice system, Jeremy

:09:04. > :09:08.Corbyn wanted her to say exactly what she meant, also raised the

:09:09. > :09:11.language used by Boris Johnson as Foreign Secretary, then the

:09:12. > :09:15.long-term economic plan, about helping people who are less

:09:16. > :09:20.fortunate, said that welfare claims are up, jobless figures in terms of

:09:21. > :09:25.claims are also up, and then social justice in general. She came back

:09:26. > :09:28.and unusually answered quite a few of the questions and there was a few

:09:29. > :09:32.jokes trust in their about the fact she is the second female Prime

:09:33. > :09:37.Minister, roof of the pudding, that the Tory party does do something for

:09:38. > :09:40.women, and also on scribblers leadership, pointing at Jeremy

:09:41. > :09:44.Corbyn. Interestingly, in the whole section by Jeremy Corbyn, nothing

:09:45. > :09:49.about Brexit or Europe, that game in the questions afterwards, the form

:09:50. > :09:53.of Angus Robertson, from the SNP, saying that remain means remain.

:09:54. > :10:00.And. She again said she was listening to the devolved

:10:01. > :10:03.parliaments. She would not say anything more firmly. But at the

:10:04. > :10:08.very end she talked about migration and net migration figures and she

:10:09. > :10:20.very clearly restated her commitment to reducing net migration to tens of

:10:21. > :10:24.thousands. Boris Johnson and Amber Rudd failed to do that, but she said

:10:25. > :10:27.that she was very clear that the vote taken on the 23rd of June was

:10:28. > :10:31.that people want the government is to take control of immigration and

:10:32. > :10:35.she was going to do that, but she admitted that it will take some time

:10:36. > :10:38.to get there. She made a little joke at the spends of Tim Farron, when

:10:39. > :10:42.they stood for a seat that neither of them one, that they are both now

:10:43. > :10:47.leaders of individual parties but that hers was a bit bigger(!) than

:10:48. > :10:53.his. She can be a bit ruthless. Other words to describe her being

:10:54. > :10:57.used by you out there, " commanding, confident, self assured..."

:10:58. > :11:01.Self-assurance, that was the keyword. A big response,

:11:02. > :11:04.interesting, the tone of PMQs changes with the change of

:11:05. > :11:09.characters, a lot of people have been watching, thank you for your

:11:10. > :11:13.response. Victories on form, Jeremy still raising questions from

:11:14. > :11:18.history, minus strike and homeownership in the 1990s. As an

:11:19. > :11:21.change and a very powerful change, says Tim. Bill Claridge,

:11:22. > :11:27.barnstorming first B 's performance from PM. Patterson, with

:11:28. > :11:39.the PM wipe the floor with Jeremy what a response on Twitter to that.

:11:40. > :11:44.A few against. -- Phil Claridge. John Baker, picked up on something

:11:45. > :11:48.that you picked mentioned, she looked nervous and try to be too

:11:49. > :11:51.clever, I'm particularly pleased that Jeremy Corbyn threw back those

:11:52. > :11:56.words at her that she said on the steps of Downing Street, I think

:11:57. > :12:04.that he came out on top. -- PMQs. Thatcher Mark two, she is back. Seen

:12:05. > :12:08.it all before. And one thing, the award unexpected pun, I don't think

:12:09. > :12:13.they're meant to, how refreshing, answers to all questions in calm

:12:14. > :12:25.atmosphere, from Kent Norman, long may it continue. Makes a change from

:12:26. > :12:29.you doing that! -- Ken Norman. It was fluent, confident, it is easy to

:12:30. > :12:33.make comparisons between Theresa May and Margaret Thatcher, but a couple

:12:34. > :12:36.of notes echoed, of Margaret Thatcher, much more fluent than

:12:37. > :12:40.Margaret Thatcher was, at the beginning of her premiership,

:12:41. > :12:44.watching those days from the gallery, I was a six-year-old little

:12:45. > :12:48.girl correspondent, she was very confident. You can see some of the

:12:49. > :12:52.gags coming half a mile away, this is the House of Commons, not have I

:12:53. > :12:59.got news for you, which you know very well! I think I prefer PMQs,

:13:00. > :13:02.myself. Jeremy Corbyn did well under the circumstances, a strong and

:13:03. > :13:06.sustained attack on one or two lines, especially considering the

:13:07. > :13:09.benches behind him sat in that now familiar uncomfortable silence, as

:13:10. > :13:14.if they were watching an embarrassing relative at a party, it

:13:15. > :13:18.feels like that, somebody with every right to be there, they just wish he

:13:19. > :13:21.would go away. Gave a reasonable performance on his own terms,

:13:22. > :13:26.Theresa May more than held her end up. Interestingly on that dynamic,

:13:27. > :13:30.Jeremy Corbyn, more experienced, has been there longer, even as Leader of

:13:31. > :13:33.the Opposition, may feel more comfortable at the dispatch box,

:13:34. > :13:37.what about the comparisons, that will inevitably be made, between

:13:38. > :13:40.Theresa May and Margaret Thatcher? May have been more confident at the

:13:41. > :13:45.beginning, but those comparisons will be made, and she was quite

:13:46. > :13:49.aggressive. One or two stylistics marriages, the mine is bigger than

:13:50. > :13:53.yours gagged at the end of the session, that may have come out of

:13:54. > :13:57.the Margaret Thatcher playbook, one or two lines, the way that they were

:13:58. > :14:05.delivered. -- mine is bigger than yours gag. It is easy to make the

:14:06. > :14:09.comparison but the comparisons were there to be made, she started off

:14:10. > :14:13.hitting the ground running, in this Question Time, she is flying any

:14:14. > :14:17.minute now to see the German leader, then the French leader after that.

:14:18. > :14:25.She has started, in her own way, Margaret Thatcher did as well, with

:14:26. > :14:30.a very big in tray. The first question that Jeremy Corbyn put to

:14:31. > :14:32.Theresa May, Orgreave Inquirer, she gave an indication that something

:14:33. > :14:37.might be happening. Sounded like more than that, watch this space,

:14:38. > :14:41.saying that the new Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, would have something to

:14:42. > :14:43.sale it on, you do not often hear a promise to saying that unless

:14:44. > :14:47.something of substance is going to happen, she was referring to the

:14:48. > :14:50.Battle of Orgreave, literally a battle in many ways between the

:14:51. > :14:53.South Yorkshire Police and striking miners at the Orgreave colliery in

:14:54. > :14:58.1984, accusations of evidence being rigged up, of mine is being framed

:14:59. > :15:02.and all the rest of it, and the call for the enquiry took on new momentum

:15:03. > :15:07.after the Hillsborough enquiry. -- miners. We are now looking at what

:15:08. > :15:10.Amber Rudd has got to say. What about the issue of Europe, there is

:15:11. > :15:15.every sign that her premiership is going to be defined by the Brexit

:15:16. > :15:20.vote, however much she wants to talk about social justice, that is how it

:15:21. > :15:23.will be defined initially. Angus Robertson has made the claim, he is

:15:24. > :15:28.going to continue on this, remain means remain for Scotland, what does

:15:29. > :15:32.it mean in practice? The early stages of the game, it can really

:15:33. > :15:35.only have one outcome, the Scottish national party, after in gauging

:15:36. > :15:38.with the Westminster government and the Prime Minister, we have heard

:15:39. > :15:42.promises to engage constructively with the government in Edinburgh,

:15:43. > :15:45.there will go their separate ways, because of course they will, this

:15:46. > :15:48.means Scotland being able to continue a relationship with the

:15:49. > :15:52.European Union, for Westminster and the rest of the UK, they are a

:15:53. > :15:54.component part and will go the way of the rest of us until the break

:15:55. > :16:03.finally comes. That was her first visit, she fears

:16:04. > :16:09.that is the big threat. One of the first thing she said outside Downing

:16:10. > :16:15.Street, she talked about how precious the Union is, and the union

:16:16. > :16:19.of all our citizens, the social justice agenda. That performance

:16:20. > :16:23.showed me that we have picked the right person. There was a great deal

:16:24. > :16:27.of detailed knowledge, if you take the question on housing, on starter

:16:28. > :16:33.homes, she had all the detail, why the limits were as they were. Direct

:16:34. > :16:36.answers two questions, a very sure that performance, and a clear

:16:37. > :16:39.political contrast that you are trying to draw between the Labour

:16:40. > :16:43.Party, fighting amongst themselves, and getting on with government.

:16:44. > :16:48.There is trouble, obviously, down the road, because he congratulated

:16:49. > :16:51.Herbert said that Brexit means Brexit and already wanted a

:16:52. > :17:00.commitment that it would mean not joining the single market. --

:17:01. > :17:04.congratulated her but said. We are trying to have a strong trading

:17:05. > :17:07.relationship with the EU 27 countries, that is in all of our

:17:08. > :17:11.interests, and cooperate on the problems we face in terms of the

:17:12. > :17:21.migration crisis and terrorism. And what about free -- freedom of

:17:22. > :17:26.movement? Well, what was very clear is that she was keen to stress that

:17:27. > :17:30.although we are leaving the EU, there is still a positive global

:17:31. > :17:33.vision of Britain, and our relationship, she is going to

:17:34. > :17:38.Germany and lacrosse after that, our relationships with these countries

:17:39. > :17:45.are varied important and will be in the future. -- Germany and France.

:17:46. > :17:51.How is she going to achieve it? In terms of migration, the number of

:17:52. > :17:56.people coming from outside the EU stands at 188,000, how long will it

:17:57. > :18:04.take to get there? 20 years? I do not think she is thinking over that

:18:05. > :18:07.time scale at all, there is an opportunity to make changes in terms

:18:08. > :18:11.of European migration at the end of this period, and we can take further

:18:12. > :18:16.measures in relation to non-EU migration. What measures will bring

:18:17. > :18:20.down that figure to tens of thousands? You asking me to take

:18:21. > :18:24.decisions... You believe this is a credible line that has not been

:18:25. > :18:28.achieved by the Government when she was Home Secretary, and she has

:18:29. > :18:32.restated that commitment, despite the fact that her Home Secretary and

:18:33. > :18:42.Foreign Secretary do not believe it is achievable, and you tell me in

:18:43. > :18:44.any way how you would bring the figure down. The Government will

:18:45. > :18:47.have to look at a range of measures on migration, but one of the clear

:18:48. > :18:49.messages from the referendum was a very widespread concern in our

:18:50. > :18:54.country about levels of immigration, and the Government needs to respond

:18:55. > :18:57.to that. One of the comments she made about the Labour Party is that

:18:58. > :19:01.it will spend the next few months in a divisive leadership battle while

:19:02. > :19:04.her body gets on with bringing the country back together. That is what

:19:05. > :19:10.is going to happen, the Labour Party is going to be fighting itself while

:19:11. > :19:14.the Government gets on. Well, the Labour Party is having an internal,

:19:15. > :19:18.democratic election, and that could be quite healing for the Labour

:19:19. > :19:24.Party. It is definitely a difference from the Tory benches, given they

:19:25. > :19:28.have our daily the ship contest there, and certainly Theresa May's

:19:29. > :19:37.style was quite refreshing and moved away from Flashman. -- they have had

:19:38. > :19:41.a leadership contest there. I would question her judgment in appointing

:19:42. > :19:47.Boris Johnson as Foreign Secretary. You agree with what Jeremy Corbyn

:19:48. > :19:50.said? I do, given Britain's role on the European stage being so

:19:51. > :19:55.critical, and how we define our relationship with the rest of the

:19:56. > :20:00.world, having someone who has said the things that he has said, which

:20:01. > :20:04.was referred to in PMQs, that is a real concern. He did a really good

:20:05. > :20:14.job promoting London. Funny you should mention all of this!

:20:15. > :20:17.Boris Johnson and some of his remarks were brought up by Jeremy

:20:18. > :20:21.Corbyn in the chamber. US Secretary of State John Kerry

:20:22. > :20:24.was in town yesterday, and as he went to see Theresa May

:20:25. > :20:26.in Downing Street, he got a traditional

:20:27. > :20:30.British welcome. At the Foreign Office later,

:20:31. > :20:35.the new Foreign Secretary tried to be more welcoming

:20:36. > :20:39.to the visiting dignitary. Both were subjected to some tricky

:20:40. > :20:41.questions about Boris's past, but Mr Kerry spoke of

:20:42. > :20:43.the man he'd heard about. This man is a very smart

:20:44. > :20:46.and capable man. I can live with that,

:20:47. > :20:51.I can live with that! That's the Boris Johnson

:20:52. > :20:55.that I've met, and we intend to make good

:20:56. > :20:59.things happen. Phew!

:21:00. > :21:02.Stop that, that's great... You've accused the current

:21:03. > :21:12.US President, Barack Obama, of harbouring a part-Kenyan's

:21:13. > :21:15."an ancestral dislike for the British Empire,"

:21:16. > :21:17.while claiming, that he didn't want a Churchill

:21:18. > :21:22.bust in the White House. You have described a possible future

:21:23. > :21:25.US President, Hillary Clinton, as someone with, "Dyed blonde hair

:21:26. > :21:28.and pouty lips and a steely blue stare like a sadistic nurse

:21:29. > :21:33.in a mental hospital." You've also likened her

:21:34. > :21:36.to Lady Macbeth. Or do you want to take them

:21:37. > :21:42.with you into your new job as some sort of indicator of the type

:21:43. > :21:46.of diplomacy you will practise? I'm afraid that there is such

:21:47. > :21:50.a rich thesaurus now of things that I have said

:21:51. > :21:53.that have been one way or another, through what alchemy I do not know,

:21:54. > :21:58.somehow misconstrued, that it would really take me

:21:59. > :22:01.too long to engage in a full global itinerary

:22:02. > :22:05.of apology to all concerned. And I think most people,

:22:06. > :22:08.most people who read these things in their proper context,

:22:09. > :22:25.can see exactly what was intended. Let's see, Cat Smith, Boris Johnson,

:22:26. > :22:28.these comments were raised by your leader, he tends to bluff and say,

:22:29. > :22:33.look, they were taken out of context, they were misconstrued, but

:22:34. > :22:38.you think it is more serious than that. I think Boris thinks he is

:22:39. > :22:42.very funny, but the reality is that it is a very serious time in terms

:22:43. > :22:47.of our relationship on the world stage, so he cannot afford to make

:22:48. > :22:51.jokes, and I hope that he really considers the language that he uses

:22:52. > :22:58.when talking about other political leaders, other potential leaders,

:22:59. > :23:03.and other countries. Do you... Who said he made a good job of being

:23:04. > :23:08.mayor, hardly a ringing endorsement of him as Foreign Secretary, is it?

:23:09. > :23:11.In some cases he has used language that I wouldn't, but before he

:23:12. > :23:15.became mayor, lots of people raised concerns and said he would not be

:23:16. > :23:21.serious enough to do the job, but his approval rating from Londoners

:23:22. > :23:26.was very high. Will it hurt him? Everybody knows his form, he has to

:23:27. > :23:29.live down his past, he has conducted himself as a columnist doing

:23:30. > :23:32.politics, rather than a politician doing a newspaper column, and he has

:23:33. > :23:38.to be less interesting in future, not get carried away by his own gift

:23:39. > :23:41.of phrasemaking, which he writes like a runaway horse. He's the

:23:42. > :23:45.Foreign Secretary, that has got to be change. What a memo, be less

:23:46. > :23:47.interesting! Thank you very much.

:23:48. > :23:50.Now, if you remember, at the beginning of the show

:23:51. > :23:53.to satirise Theresa May's first Prime Minister's Questions.

:23:54. > :24:06.Here he is, getting his equipment at there, look, crayons, pencils,

:24:07. > :24:12.different colours, not traditional blue! Here he is hard at work for

:24:13. > :24:16.us. You have to earn your deep when you come on the Daily Politics, even

:24:17. > :24:20.on a Wednesday. We will see the fruits of his labour in just a

:24:21. > :24:27.moment, you can see the beginnings of him sketching out Theresa May.

:24:28. > :24:32.Boris?! Similar hair! Show us what you have got.

:24:33. > :24:39.Well it is Theresa May... Thank God for that! Of course, it

:24:40. > :24:45.refers to the IMF, at about the exit putting a spanner in the works. I

:24:46. > :24:48.wondered whether, as I was listening outside, whether first of all I had

:24:49. > :24:51.used the wrong metaphor and it should have been the elephant in the

:24:52. > :24:56.room, because of the fact that Brexit is going to dominate her

:24:57. > :25:00.premiership, but Corbyn did not mention it at all. It is absolutely

:25:01. > :25:06.true, but what are your impressions of her in terms of satire? It is

:25:07. > :25:11.impossible now, even more so today, with the pearls and a blue suit, the

:25:12. > :25:16.comparison to the Iron Lady is so obvious. Are you going to have to

:25:17. > :25:20.carve out a slightly different role? It is not just going to be the

:25:21. > :25:24.leopard-skin shoes either, it has to be something more than that. But

:25:25. > :25:28.there are great echoes of Thatcher in her presentation, facially as

:25:29. > :25:40.well, and she has even got the Helmut Haller card now, which has

:25:41. > :25:44.echoes of Thatcher. -- the helmet haircut. You have to keep Thatcher

:25:45. > :25:49.out of her mind while you are drawing, she is something of an

:25:50. > :25:53.enigma. I think we can show some of the other sketches that have been

:25:54. > :25:56.done, but while they are going up, what are the qualities and

:25:57. > :26:01.characteristics that you look for? These are some of the others that

:26:02. > :26:08.have been done of Theresa May, the physical features, the nose and the

:26:09. > :26:16.hair. Peter Brooks is a master at this, and he has gone for the nose,

:26:17. > :26:22.well and truly gone for the nose! In a way, that is also similar to

:26:23. > :26:26.Margaret Thatcher. And the handbag as well. These shoes are going to be

:26:27. > :26:32.absolutely crucial, let's have a look at another one which was done

:26:33. > :26:38.fairly recently, what to think of that one? Brilliant, but then David

:26:39. > :26:46.Brown is always brilliant. It is quite dark. Of course it is dark, he

:26:47. > :26:51.is a satirist! It works, it really works. Let's take a look at the last

:26:52. > :27:01.one, the famous kitten heels, that is his signature, if a little bit

:27:02. > :27:08.rude. Steve Bell combining two metaphors there, very clever, as he

:27:09. > :27:13.always is. But that doesn't show her face, of course. Steve has yet to

:27:14. > :27:18.put a defining caricature of her in. Is that why we have not got the

:27:19. > :27:21.face? Do you think the portrayals of Prime Minister change over time?

:27:22. > :27:29.Blair certainly did, but they do, don't they? In his case, badly with

:27:30. > :27:34.Iraq. And that will develop, what type of person becomes a cartoonist?

:27:35. > :27:39.Are you dark? There is a dark side to us all, why would you choose this

:27:40. > :27:43.otherwise? It is quite an aggressive occupation, making fun of people all

:27:44. > :27:49.the time. But to answer your question, a very mixed bunch, all

:27:50. > :27:53.sorts of people, a strange bunch. Let's see how you develop! Just time

:27:54. > :27:58.to put you out of your misery and give you the answer to guess the

:27:59. > :28:04.year, it was 1988. Can you press the button? We will find out who has got

:28:05. > :28:07.it. A very gentle pressing of the bus! The mug is yours, Richard.

:28:08. > :28:10.That's all for today, thanks to all our guests.

:28:11. > :28:16.after more than 11 years on the Daily Politics.

:28:17. > :28:18.We wish him well and leave you with a reminder of some

:28:19. > :28:20.of his more memorable moments on the programme.

:28:21. > :28:29.Giles, over to you, and we will be counting those puns.

:28:30. > :28:31.Well, what do the horse trainers here

:28:32. > :28:35.make of the runners and riders in the election race?

:28:36. > :28:38.Deals that can be done are the meat of politics

:28:39. > :28:41.in this election that is far from a falcon conclusion.

:28:42. > :28:48.And I'm told they're just jumping to tell me their burning issues.

:28:49. > :28:50.I know they're sceptical, but this new male make-up

:28:51. > :28:52.does make you look a bit more rock 'n' roll,

:28:53. > :28:58.has got me in touch with my feminine side.

:28:59. > :29:00.# What a man, what a man, what a man

:29:01. > :29:05.# What a man, what a man, what a mighty good man... #

:29:06. > :29:11.You're coming across as, frankly, ridiculous.