28/09/2016: Labour Leader's Speech

:00:00. > :00:07.At the start of the week he was returned triumphant

:00:08. > :00:10.as Labour Party Leader - for a second time.

:00:11. > :00:14.Now - with that renewed mandate - he prepares to address

:00:15. > :00:18.his party conference - how will he unite

:00:19. > :00:58.And tell us how to take Labour intergovernment.

:00:59. > :01:01.Afternoon, folks - welcome to this Daily Politics

:01:02. > :01:06.special live from Liverpool on the sunny banks of the Mersey.

:01:07. > :01:08.So, Jeremy Corbyn left the Conference hotel a few

:01:09. > :01:12.minutes ago accompanied by six young people.

:01:13. > :01:23.Labour activists. The party has an been inundated by new member since

:01:24. > :01:24.Mr Corbyn became leader and many of them young.

:01:25. > :01:27.He will get to his feet in about 20 minutes and we're

:01:28. > :01:30.expecting him to speak for less than half an hour -

:01:31. > :01:40.And if that's the case it will be bit shortest Labour leader speech

:01:41. > :01:44.since Disraeli. He'll put the party on an election

:01:45. > :01:47.footing and outline ten policy pledges that Labour

:01:48. > :01:49.would deliver in government. But Mr Corbyn's bigger task

:01:50. > :01:51.is to try to bring the party together after another

:01:52. > :01:53.divisive leadership contest. What - if anything -

:01:54. > :01:58.will be his olive branch to MPs? And if the snap election that

:01:59. > :02:02.Jeremy Corbyn will warn of does materialise,

:02:03. > :02:04.what kind of position will the party We'll have Jeremy Corbyn's speech

:02:05. > :02:22.live and uninterrupted. That will be in about 20 minutes

:02:23. > :02:25.time. is the journalist and commentator,

:02:26. > :02:35.Rachel Shabi. Welcome back to the programme.

:02:36. > :02:38.What should Mr Corbyn do to reach out to those in the party,

:02:39. > :02:44.particularly the MPs that didn't want him as leader? Well, there is a

:02:45. > :02:48.couple of things he can do. One, of course, is to focus on the policy

:02:49. > :02:52.areas over which they are united. As it turns out there are plenty of

:02:53. > :02:56.those. They all agree about having an anti-austerity programme, about

:02:57. > :03:01.going big on infrastructure investment, investment in housing,

:03:02. > :03:04.support for the welfare state, support for comprehensive schools.

:03:05. > :03:09.There are lots of areas over which they can agree. But you are right,

:03:10. > :03:13.people who walked away over the summer are going to need a path

:03:14. > :03:17.back. They are going to need something to allow them to be able

:03:18. > :03:22.to reverse that decision made over the summer. And I would imagine

:03:23. > :03:27.Corbyn and his team are now in conversation with various people

:03:28. > :03:33.love exactly what can be made, what offers can be made to allow people

:03:34. > :03:38.to find a way back into the Shadow Cabinet. Does he need to bring what

:03:39. > :03:41.we might call the rebels, does he need to bring some of these

:03:42. > :03:46.prominent rebels back into the Shadow Cabinet? I think it depends.

:03:47. > :03:51.When he formed his first Shadow Cabinet when first elected as leader

:03:52. > :03:56.it was very much a unity cabinet, spanning across all of the diverse

:03:57. > :04:00.and varied factions of the Labour Party that have been one family for

:04:01. > :04:05.so long. That didn't really work out, and I think one of the reasons

:04:06. > :04:09.it didn't work out was some members of the Cabinet were not that unified

:04:10. > :04:14.in their approach. There was sniping, briefing to the press that

:04:15. > :04:21.was seen as undermining of both the cohesion of the Cabinet, of the

:04:22. > :04:25.Shadow Cabinet, and of the leadership itself. Were he to reach

:04:26. > :04:29.out across the party in the same way again there would need to be

:04:30. > :04:34.guarantees that that would stop, I think. Mr Corbyn's people have

:04:35. > :04:39.blamed the bad polling, particularly this summer because label-macro's

:04:40. > :04:46.been diverted by a never leadership contest within the space of one

:04:47. > :04:54.year. -- Labour's. When this is all behind him does he need to

:04:55. > :04:57.demonstrate he can prove the party's opinion poll ratings? Definitely. I

:04:58. > :05:00.think the divisions in the party and the fact people have been looking

:05:01. > :05:05.for months at a party in disarray are only part of the story in terms

:05:06. > :05:10.of the bad polling. Some of it is actually to do with his leadership,

:05:11. > :05:15.and I do think he does need to address that. A lot of people that

:05:16. > :05:18.I've spoken to in the last few days, people have been previously very

:05:19. > :05:23.cynical about his capacity as leader, have said they have seen a

:05:24. > :05:26.change. They have said that in the last few months specially he has

:05:27. > :05:31.raised his game. It's not perfect yet, it is a long way from that, but

:05:32. > :05:35.they are definitely saying they see signs of improvement. I think were

:05:36. > :05:39.he to continue along that same path, and at the same time draw on all of

:05:40. > :05:42.the wealth and experience that all of the factions of the Labour Party

:05:43. > :05:49.have to bring to the table, if they were behind him and enabling him

:05:50. > :05:54.with their talents, I think that would also make a big difference. On

:05:55. > :05:56.the eve of the conference Andy Burnham, now the outgoing Shadow

:05:57. > :06:01.Home Secretary because he's going to run for Mayor of London and

:06:02. > :06:06.favourite to win it, sorry, the Mayor of Manchester... As a Labour

:06:07. > :06:14.mayor. Sadiq Khan just spilt his Coffey, I think! Andy Burnham

:06:15. > :06:18.implied that there was a test -- coffee. That they had to see an

:06:19. > :06:23.improvement, because no one, these were his words, at the right to take

:06:24. > :06:27.Labour to a overstating defeat, he was referring to 2020. It is that

:06:28. > :06:30.realistic now? Is it realistic to think that if things don't get

:06:31. > :06:37.better Labour would change its leader again? I don't know. But I

:06:38. > :06:40.also think it's a long game. The problem is the Labour Party has had

:06:41. > :06:46.in terms of its own electability go beyond Jeremy Corbyn. They have been

:06:47. > :06:53.haemorrhaging support among the wider population for some time. They

:06:54. > :06:59.have lost two elections. Quite a low share of the vote too. Quite a low

:07:00. > :07:03.share of the vote, so the problems they need to address go beyond the

:07:04. > :07:07.leadership. They come down to finding a way to re-engage with the

:07:08. > :07:11.population, find a way to be engage with people, who for whatever

:07:12. > :07:14.reason, have become disillusioned with the Labour Party and whose

:07:15. > :07:18.votes they lost, and also the section of the population that just

:07:19. > :07:22.has not been interested in politics at all and doesn't vote. One of the

:07:23. > :07:28.encouraging thing is about Jeremy Corbyn's leadership is he has

:07:29. > :07:30.managed to start to speak to that section of the population. Perhaps

:07:31. > :07:37.reinvigorate an interest in politics? Yes. OK, we will talk

:07:38. > :07:46.about this and more. This time last year,

:07:47. > :07:48.the Labour conference kicked off with the announcement

:07:49. > :07:50.of Jeremy Corbyn's This year's conference started

:07:51. > :07:52.in similar fashion. But what about the

:07:53. > :07:54.intervening 12 months? Here's a reminder of how

:07:55. > :07:56.the year unfolded for And so I sent out an e-mail

:07:57. > :08:17.to thousands of people and asked them what questions

:08:18. > :08:19.they would like to put Public opinion is moving

:08:20. > :08:39.increasingly against what I believe to be an ill-thought-out

:08:40. > :08:41.rush to war. It is now time for us

:08:42. > :08:49.to do our bit in Syria. a politician resigning

:08:50. > :09:05.live on television. I've just written to Jeremy Corbyn

:09:06. > :09:08.to resign from the frontbench. I think that things

:09:09. > :09:10.are being said that have been briefed at and that I have seen

:09:11. > :09:14.being briefed at this morning REPORTER: Do you accept this has

:09:15. > :09:24.become something of a crisis? We were getting predictions that

:09:25. > :09:39.Labour was going to lose councils. Tonight at Ten, tributes

:09:40. > :09:52.to the Labour MP Jo Cox who has died after being stabbed and shot

:09:53. > :09:56.on a street in West Yorkshire. A real servant of democracy in every

:09:57. > :10:12.way one could want or imagine. The British people have spoken

:10:13. > :10:40.and the answer is - we're out. For all of this I express more

:10:41. > :10:45.sorrow, regret, and apology than I've been joined by the Shadow

:10:46. > :11:49.Education Secretary, Angela Rayner. Welcome back on the programme. You

:11:50. > :11:55.had two leadership elections in 12 months. Can we take it for granted

:11:56. > :11:59.now that if the election is in 2020 Mr Corbyn leads the Labour Party

:12:00. > :12:03.into that election? Well, I'm election fatigue in our party at the

:12:04. > :12:08.moment like most of our members are and we just want a bit of stability.

:12:09. > :12:13.We are all a bit tired now. So is its job done? I hope so, I hope we

:12:14. > :12:16.pulled together and lead an opposition to what the Conservative

:12:17. > :12:19.government are doing at the moment. I hope we pulled together because I

:12:20. > :12:22.think that's what the nation are willing us to do because they want

:12:23. > :12:33.to see in a position to be Conservative government and we must

:12:34. > :12:36.step up to the mark to be the opposition. At the moment you are

:12:37. > :12:39.ten or 12 points behind in the polls. Some of that Mr Corbyn's

:12:40. > :12:41.people blame on the fact you've been having your own leadership contest

:12:42. > :12:44.inwards. But there is also boundary changes coming up which will not be

:12:45. > :12:46.helpful for the Labour Party either. Although you want him to lead into

:12:47. > :12:50.the next election, does there come a time if there is no improvement in

:12:51. > :12:54.Labour's position, or it even gets worse, that the leadership issue is

:12:55. > :12:58.opened again? Jeremy Corbyn must prove himself to the public, no

:12:59. > :13:02.question about that. As I've always said respect is earned, not given.

:13:03. > :13:07.We got to do that, we have a task ahead of us but I think the general

:13:08. > :13:10.public are willing us on, they want Labour to be the opposition party

:13:11. > :13:15.then we could be and the government in waiting and we have a long way to

:13:16. > :13:17.go to prove that. I'm hoping and now we've had this summer of discontent

:13:18. > :13:21.we can unite together and move forward on that basis and give

:13:22. > :13:25.Jeremy the chance to lead our party with a big, strong team around him.

:13:26. > :13:29.Given the task ahead of you, it is quite a formidable task and the

:13:30. > :13:35.boundary changes do make it worse if they go through, and given the

:13:36. > :13:39.importance of immigration in the Brexit debate, particularly among

:13:40. > :13:44.Northern Labour voters, many of whom voted for Brexit, is it wise for

:13:45. > :13:48.your party and Mr Corbyn to take a leadership position on this that

:13:49. > :13:53.says he's not concerned about numbers and he doesn't care about

:13:54. > :13:57.bringing down immigration numbers? Is that wise? Well, many of my

:13:58. > :14:00.constituents talk to me about immigration and their concerns

:14:01. > :14:04.around it. I think what has happened is people especially in the north,

:14:05. > :14:07.and cities like my area, for example, felt they have taken a

:14:08. > :14:11.disproportionate effect from immigration and have not seen the

:14:12. > :14:14.investment in the public services, the undercutting of wages and we

:14:15. > :14:18.need to deal with those issues first serve the general public can have

:14:19. > :14:22.some confidence that actually immigration as a positive effect on

:14:23. > :14:26.all of our communities and we all do well from it. Is it wise, was my

:14:27. > :14:30.question, to say numbers are not the EC? Andrew, not talking about it is

:14:31. > :14:37.not wise either, that's what people are talking about on the doorstep --

:14:38. > :14:40.not the issue. Immigration can be good for business and good for the

:14:41. > :14:44.UK but it disproportionately affects some areas of the UK and we cannot

:14:45. > :14:48.deny that, we have to deal with the SU. Let me try one more time. Is it

:14:49. > :14:54.wise, given as you say, numbers are not the EC? What Jeremy said about

:14:55. > :14:59.numbers is its like pinning blancmange to the wall, you say one

:15:00. > :15:04.number... It disproportionately affects some areas. You may not need

:15:05. > :15:07.the same number in my area as you need in another area. The

:15:08. > :15:11.fundamental thing governments have failed to do and failed to respond

:15:12. > :15:18.to and prepare for immigration and prepare for what the Labour

:15:19. > :15:22.workforce needs and housing and services, and when you cut in those

:15:23. > :15:25.areas as well, this is the crucial bit, in areas like my area the

:15:26. > :15:29.public sector is a large employer and you've cut it back so much as

:15:30. > :15:32.well, is it has had this pinching effect on our communities and that

:15:33. > :15:38.is where tensions have come. Should there be controls on the numbers?

:15:39. > :15:43.Where there is a need for labour and you're making sure that it is not

:15:44. > :15:48.under cutting British workers in terms of their wage bill that we've

:15:49. > :15:55.got good housing in place, including council housing, it is not a dirty

:15:56. > :16:00.word. That's creating an environment for immigrants coming here and those

:16:01. > :16:05.that are living here. Should there be controls on the numbers coming?

:16:06. > :16:07.We already have controls because we're an island, but what

:16:08. > :16:12.happened... Well, we have free movement from the EU at the moment.

:16:13. > :16:16.Once we leave the EU should there be controls? There is no infrastructure

:16:17. > :16:20.and people can't move into a particular area, but what we have

:16:21. > :16:24.seen is a disproportionate effect on some areas and that's why people

:16:25. > :16:28.felt it significantly. What we need to be looking at is where we've got

:16:29. > :16:32.skills gaps and where we need people to come into work, we should be

:16:33. > :16:35.welcoming that, but we have to make sure that the infrastructure is in

:16:36. > :16:39.place. Angela Rayner, thank you very much.

:16:40. > :16:44.Let's look inside the hall. We welcome viewers from

:16:45. > :17:03.the BBC News Channel. Jeremy Corbyn will be giving his

:17:04. > :17:08.second keynote address to the party faithful gathered in the hall and to

:17:09. > :17:12.the wider public through channels like this as he begins to attempt to

:17:13. > :17:16.gel with the wider electorate because at the end, that's what

:17:17. > :17:19.matters if you want power, not to win leadership elections, but

:17:20. > :17:24.winning the elections in the country and that will be a two-pronged job

:17:25. > :17:27.he has to do today. One will be to attempt to try and bring the Labour

:17:28. > :17:32.Party together after the divisions over the summer, but begin to build

:17:33. > :17:37.a case for why Labour should form the next Government in 2020, should

:17:38. > :17:41.that be the time of the election. Not long to go now. We know a little

:17:42. > :17:46.bit of what he may say. Let's go over some of that. I'm joined by the

:17:47. > :17:50.BBC's assistant political editor, Norman Smith. Norman, it is good to

:17:51. > :17:54.see you. Immigration is going to be the big issue in this speech, is it

:17:55. > :17:57.not because of what he is not saying? It is not going to be a big

:17:58. > :18:00.issue because of what he does say, it is what he doesn't say and the

:18:01. > :18:04.build-up to this whole speech. He wanted to, he did want to raise the

:18:05. > :18:08.issue of immigration. He wanted to flag up his ideas of bringing back

:18:09. > :18:12.the migration impact fund which Gordon Brown introduced. The Tories

:18:13. > :18:16.have also committed to having a similar sort of thing, but they have

:18:17. > :18:22.not implemented it. They abolished the first one in 2011, but it was

:18:23. > :18:33.peanuts? It was 50 million. They only spent, they spent ?23

:18:34. > :18:37.billion... ?23 million in 2009 and another ?23 million in 2010 which I

:18:38. > :18:42.think you can see is nothing. He is now talking about spending more than

:18:43. > :18:47.?50 million is what he's saying, but the issue is, his overnight briefing

:18:48. > :18:50.from the spokesman which was so, I mean, it was just there in plaque

:18:51. > :18:54.and white, Labour is not about reducing immigration. There is very

:18:55. > :18:58.little wriggle room or ambiguity about that, it is straightforward.

:18:59. > :19:02.Understandably, it caused considerable alarm amongst many

:19:03. > :19:08.Labour MPs because they think it sounds like he is not listening to

:19:09. > :19:16.the electorate, it sounds like like two fingers to people who voted for

:19:17. > :19:19.Brexit. I mean, I think, it kind of has made what has been Jeremy

:19:20. > :19:23.Corbyn's implicit view for a long, long time. He is pretty relaxed

:19:24. > :19:29.about levels of immigration. And John McDonnell is too, isn't he? I

:19:30. > :19:31.think it kind of reflects a divide in Labour thinking between

:19:32. > :19:37.metropolitan Labour and northern Labour. You know, in the big cities,

:19:38. > :19:40.there is genuinely a more relaxed view, they take the view that

:19:41. > :19:43.immigration leads to a more diverse society and leads to innovation and

:19:44. > :19:48.energy, it is a good thing. Very different story in some of the old

:19:49. > :19:51.industrial mill towns where there aren't jobs, where there aren't

:19:52. > :19:58.businesses ad they are under real pressure. So that sort of issue on

:19:59. > :20:01.immigration has exposed the real tensions over Jeremy Corbyn's

:20:02. > :20:06.leadership and whether it is too London based. Rachel Shabi is with

:20:07. > :20:12.us helping us get through the speech today. Is this a tactical mistake by

:20:13. > :20:16.Mr Corbyn? Does it just follow what he has always believed? No, I really

:20:17. > :20:19.don't think it is a tactical mistake. I think it is long past

:20:20. > :20:23.time that the Labour Party started to talk about this. Look, the

:20:24. > :20:29.environment in which we discuss migration now has become so loaded

:20:30. > :20:32.and so difficult and that was exacerbated by the way we discussed

:20:33. > :20:38.Brexit that it is now very difficult for him to raise the issue that he

:20:39. > :20:41.is raising. That doesn't make it wrong, it makes it difficult. The

:20:42. > :20:45.truth of the matter, even Theresa May and her Conservative Government

:20:46. > :20:48.they though that a cut on migration would be bad for the economy. We all

:20:49. > :20:53.know that. Every economist knows that. They cannot say it out loud

:20:54. > :20:57.because they know it would not be popular to say it. Any cut? So what

:20:58. > :21:02.Jeremy Corbyn is trying to do is shift the focus. He's saying, "Look,

:21:03. > :21:08.we understand there are concerns about wage under cutting, about job

:21:09. > :21:16.insecurity, access to welfare, and access to house, not being able to

:21:17. > :21:21.see your doctor, sending your kid to a packed school." The cause is

:21:22. > :21:24.economics and austerity cuts and cutting public services so local

:21:25. > :21:28.authorities don't have the a capacity to cope and let's not,

:21:29. > :21:33.let's not blame migrants for that. Let's remove the economic causes for

:21:34. > :21:37.those concerns. But to do all of that, to build the housing, to

:21:38. > :21:42.improve the schools, to create the public services for a rising

:21:43. > :21:46.population, which is rising indigenously as well as rising for

:21:47. > :21:50.people coming in, don't you need a break until you get these things in

:21:51. > :21:53.place? But that's the thing about is that we actually, we don't need a

:21:54. > :21:57.break, we need to maintain the levels of migration that we have.

:21:58. > :22:02.330,000 net. And most importantly of all in all of this is that even

:22:03. > :22:06.people, people who voted for Brexit and people who think there is a

:22:07. > :22:12.problem with migration, the majority of those people polled would not be

:22:13. > :22:14.prepared to suffer financially as a trade off for a reduction in

:22:15. > :22:18.migration, that's what will happen. We need to be honest about saying

:22:19. > :22:20.that. I think Jeremy Corbyn is starting to initiate that

:22:21. > :22:25.conversation. It is really difficult, it is going against the

:22:26. > :22:28.grain. But it is a conversation. Norman Smith, it would seem from the

:22:29. > :22:35.briefing that we got that there is almost no talk of any kind of

:22:36. > :22:40.controls on EU migration after we leave, but when I interviewed Barry

:22:41. > :22:43.Gardener on the Daily Politics at lunch time today, he said there

:22:44. > :22:48.would be all manner of quality controls on immigration. To be

:22:49. > :22:54.honest, I didn't understand what he was saying. Did you? ? Is he talking

:22:55. > :22:57.about some kind of points-based system, is that what he means by

:22:58. > :23:01.quality controls that people will be assessed in terms of whether they

:23:02. > :23:05.had the right work qualifications, whether they had the educational

:23:06. > :23:09.qualifications. I don't know... But that's not the policy, is it? No,

:23:10. > :23:15.Jeremy Corbyn has been honest about this that he doesn't really believe

:23:16. > :23:18.in controls on EU migration. He does actually believe in freedom of

:23:19. > :23:24.movement, his argument there are plenty of Brits living abroad, if we

:23:25. > :23:28.start imposing curbs and there will be curbs imposed on them and he

:23:29. > :23:32.thinks that we do need large numbers of migrants because of the NHS and

:23:33. > :23:35.because of certain industries which rely on foreign labour and because

:23:36. > :23:38.of the benefits they bring to the economy. He is not suggesting there

:23:39. > :23:42.should be any controls. I'm not sure he would support any controls at

:23:43. > :23:47.all. He never articulated when he was asked about it. I mean, more

:23:48. > :23:50.broadly, it just seems to me this is an issue which has dogged Labour,

:23:51. > :23:54.almost for a decade now. It seems to be such a difficult conversation for

:23:55. > :24:01.Labour to have. I mean, you kind of go all the way back to Gordon Brown

:24:02. > :24:04.and Gillian Duffy and Ed Miliband and his last conference speech not

:24:05. > :24:09.mentioning immigration and now this and it seems to me Labour find it

:24:10. > :24:13.very hard to have this conversation about immigration. It is a really

:24:14. > :24:19.fraught issue for them and I think the reason for that, if I'm honest,

:24:20. > :24:23.is there is a Labour view that bluntly talking about numbers is

:24:24. > :24:26.border line racist and I think that's the view of some Labour

:24:27. > :24:31.people and that makes it very hard to have this discussion and they are

:24:32. > :24:35.still struggling to try and frame a debate which doesn't descend into a

:24:36. > :24:39.very, very politically charged one. The Labour Party particularly Mr

:24:40. > :24:44.Corbyn, has said that they need to be geared up for a quick election.

:24:45. > :24:49.There could be one happening early next year and that's a good thing if

:24:50. > :24:52.you want to promote unity. An election concentrates the mind, but

:24:53. > :24:56.it creates a problem for them too, because if they think that they will

:24:57. > :25:02.need to firm up on their policies and not just speak in slogans and

:25:03. > :25:08.that hasn't happened? No, Labour is travelling slogan heavy and policy

:25:09. > :25:12.light. We have had plenty of as ppiration and peace and justice. In

:25:13. > :25:16.terms of nitty-gritty, well, how is this going to be achieved? Well, we

:25:17. > :25:21.don't have much insight. I mean, I think, the general election plea

:25:22. > :25:27.warning is by and large a unity gambit. Just to say to Labour MPs,

:25:28. > :25:31."For God's sake not have all this wrangling because we could be on the

:25:32. > :25:35.cusp of a general election." I'm not sure he actually believes in a few

:25:36. > :25:38.months we could be plunged into a general election. Theresa May has

:25:39. > :25:43.signalled she does not want to go down that road. It is harder than in

:25:44. > :25:48.previous years because of the fixed term Parliament Act. MPs would have

:25:49. > :25:52.to vote for an election? Indeed. It is part of Jeremy Corbyn's attempt

:25:53. > :25:56.to try and hold this party together at least in the short to medium-term

:25:57. > :26:01.because as you say if we were to go into a general election now, you've

:26:02. > :26:04.got a party which has been through the most acrimonious and difficult

:26:05. > :26:08.leadership contest with precious little detail in terms of policy

:26:09. > :26:14.with a leader who is still reviled by a significant part of his

:26:15. > :26:18.Parliamentary party. Reviled, is that an accurate enough word? It

:26:19. > :26:23.maybe overstating it, but there are members of his Parliamentary party

:26:24. > :26:25.who are never going to be reconciled to his leadership because they

:26:26. > :26:28.believe he has taken the Labour Party over a cliff. The John

:26:29. > :26:33.McDonnell speech, the Shadow Chancellor on Monday, a little bit

:26:34. > :26:37.of it was overshadowed when there was the argument about Clive Lewis

:26:38. > :26:43.and the changing of his speech on Trident, but at the centre of

:26:44. > :26:46.Labour's new chick policy is a massive increase in public

:26:47. > :26:52.investment to be financed largely by borrowing on the public purse. For a

:26:53. > :26:58.party that lost two elections in a row because it was seen to be profly

:26:59. > :27:02.gate with the public finances, how do you square that? As with

:27:03. > :27:06.everything else when it come to the Labour Party there is a lot of work

:27:07. > :27:10.to do. There is a lot of narrative shift that needs to take place in

:27:11. > :27:13.terms of public perception. As you rightly point out, there is a

:27:14. > :27:18.perception that the Labour Party is not that good with money basically.

:27:19. > :27:23.It can't be trusted with the economy. For some reason that

:27:24. > :27:25.narrative has become true or been perceived as true even though there

:27:26. > :27:29.is nothing to suggest that's the case. On the other hand, what we're

:27:30. > :27:34.looking at, we're looking at the Labour Party now trying to combat

:27:35. > :27:39.with an economic policy. That's a direct challenge to economics that

:27:40. > :27:43.have blatantly been seen to fail, not just with the economic crash,

:27:44. > :27:48.but with the fact that people are struggling. Wages are stagnating.

:27:49. > :27:52.People who are working very, very hard end up just standing still,

:27:53. > :27:58.going slowly backwards. Their kids aren't able to get houses or jobs.

:27:59. > :28:02.They can't afford university tuition fees. Everything is stagnant and

:28:03. > :28:05.people are waking up to the fact that an economic system is failing

:28:06. > :28:10.too many people. So what the Labour Party is trying to do and what this

:28:11. > :28:19.economic programme is about, is to try and reverse that. It is to try

:28:20. > :28:24.and address it. It is actually in line with a leading economist who

:28:25. > :28:27.are saying the same thing. You had too much austerity and liberalism is

:28:28. > :28:32.failing, we need to invest. We need to invest in public infrastructure.

:28:33. > :28:34.We need to invest in housing. The Government needs to borrow and

:28:35. > :28:38.invest in order to boost the economy. That's isn't a radical

:28:39. > :28:48.idea. That's become a centrist economic approach.

:28:49. > :28:56.We expect to hear from Mr Corbyn in at 2. .20pm. That's the Corbyn case

:28:57. > :29:01.for what is being done. Britain moved up to become the seventh most

:29:02. > :29:07.competitive economy in the world. All the countries that are still

:29:08. > :29:12.ahead of it, Singapore, Switzerland, the United States, Germany, none of

:29:13. > :29:18.them do what you've just said. Yes. But Britain is doing great as an

:29:19. > :29:22.economic power as you say, but it is doing really, really badly as

:29:23. > :29:26.sharing that economy around. Record unemployment? There is no need for

:29:27. > :29:29.foodbanks in a country that's one of the wealthiest in the world. There

:29:30. > :29:34.is no need for one in three children to be living below the poverty line.

:29:35. > :29:39.So it's not about the fact that Britain isn't a good economy, it is.

:29:40. > :29:43.But it is about finding a way to redistribute that and stop the

:29:44. > :29:47.rampant inequality that's caused so much hardship and so much pain for

:29:48. > :29:51.so many people. Norman Smith, we hear Rachel said it earlier in the

:29:52. > :29:54.programme that on so many policies Labour is united, Trident is an

:29:55. > :30:03.obvious one, that it is not, but on many other issues Labour is united.

:30:04. > :30:09.Is that true though in general of the debt financed public investment

:30:10. > :30:13.programme on the scale that Mr McDon't aland Mr Corbyn have been

:30:14. > :30:16.talking about, it is ?250 billion and sometimes ?500 billion depending

:30:17. > :30:21.on the article or the speech you read. Is there really unity on that?

:30:22. > :30:26.The deficit, which was like one of the defining issues in the run-up to

:30:27. > :30:30.the last election seems to have gone awol. I have not heard anyone really

:30:31. > :30:34.talking about the deficit here and if you think, you know, Ed Miliband,

:30:35. > :30:37.got slaughtered at his last conference speech, when he forgot to

:30:38. > :30:41.mention the deficit. I don't know whether John McDonnell mentioned it,

:30:42. > :30:45.maybe he did, it really has dropped off the political... George Osborne

:30:46. > :30:49.has stopped talking about it since Brexit. Isn't that why nobody is

:30:50. > :30:52.talking about? Not Conservatives, not the Labour Party. It is no

:30:53. > :31:01.longer an issue, is it? What has changed is the way the

:31:02. > :31:04.Labour Party is racking up a lot of bills and we have no clear idea how

:31:05. > :31:10.they will be paid for. If you go to the policies we have had, say in an

:31:11. > :31:15.area like education, with tuition fees being scrapped, maintenance

:31:16. > :31:18.grants coming back, CMAs coming back and there is a whole load of

:31:19. > :31:25.spending and we have no idea how it will be paid for. -- DMA. Whereas we

:31:26. > :31:28.previously had an environment where everyone had to think about the

:31:29. > :31:34.constraints of how much of the deficit we have, that is out of the

:31:35. > :31:37.window and does not form part of the economic argument. I was struck

:31:38. > :31:41.yesterday when Jeremy Corbyn was asked about the 500 billion figure

:31:42. > :31:47.and someone said to him, where did you get that figure? Is it just a

:31:48. > :31:51.nice round figure? And you wonder if the 500 billion figure has been

:31:52. > :31:54.plucked from anywhere without any solid analysis of where the cash

:31:55. > :32:02.will come from. I think there has been a total mind shift within

:32:03. > :32:05.Labour of balancing the deficit and now coming out with lots of

:32:06. > :32:09.extensive spending pledges which we don't know how they will be paid

:32:10. > :32:13.for. We will be drilling down on them when the Tories come out with

:32:14. > :32:17.the Autumn Statement. Although the deficit may not be up there as the

:32:18. > :32:21.most important economic indicator, which it was under Mr Osborne, Mr

:32:22. > :32:24.Hammond is not the kind of Chancellor who will forget about the

:32:25. > :32:34.deficit altogether. We were told the speech would start at 2020, it is

:32:35. > :32:38.now 2032, we were told it would be 20 minutes and now it's going to be

:32:39. > :32:42.50 minutes. He's probably listen to this discussion, and thought I would

:32:43. > :32:47.add in that point, Rachel made a very good point them let me add that

:32:48. > :32:52.income and even that too and if it carries on like this we could be

:32:53. > :32:56.here until midnight on this. With got the Tories next week. The next

:32:57. > :33:03.big economic event for us will be the Autumn Statement on November 23.

:33:04. > :33:07.We will see then, will we not, as Rachel said the deficit not at the

:33:08. > :33:12.centre, just what position it is now in under the May - Hammond

:33:13. > :33:15.government. That's absolutely true, everything changed with Brexit and

:33:16. > :33:19.Theresa May has said we don't have to worry about having a surplus by

:33:20. > :33:22.2020, Phillip Hammond has said they will have to make fiscal

:33:23. > :33:26.adjustments. The whole centre of gravity politically has changed from

:33:27. > :33:32.deficit reduction to post Brexit. That has changed everything and the

:33:33. > :33:39.focus now is on, what on earth will life be like outside the EU from

:33:40. > :33:43.previous sort of objective which was clawing our way back to balancing

:33:44. > :33:48.the books. That is not what we are about. That is a total game change.

:33:49. > :33:52.I mean, at the end of the day, I'm sure someone will have to start

:33:53. > :33:56.saying, OK, the deficit is going up, what will be done? You cannot put it

:33:57. > :33:59.off for ever and a day. Somewhere along the line we must address it,

:34:00. > :34:04.even in a post Brexit climate, it can't be put off for ever. The whole

:34:05. > :34:10.discussion which takes place, even with the Conservative saying we will

:34:11. > :34:15.not shoot for a surplus anymore and relaxed the fiscal conservatism. Mr

:34:16. > :34:21.McDonnell saying we will borrow 250, maybe 300, maybe 500, all of that is

:34:22. > :34:26.predicated on interest rates being low. Interest rates are low at the

:34:27. > :34:32.moment, historic lows. You can buy, governments can get debt ten years

:34:33. > :34:36.forward at .8%, the yield is very low, but this borrowing will be done

:34:37. > :34:40.in 2021 and we have no idea what interest rates will be by then. If

:34:41. > :34:44.they were hyped it would scupper all of this thinking. To a certain

:34:45. > :34:48.extent. A lot of this is premised, it is interest rates, as you say,

:34:49. > :34:51.but also the idea that you need to invest in order to generate income,

:34:52. > :34:56.it's not just that it's going to create jobs and therefore taxes and

:34:57. > :35:00.therefore an increased budget, it's that there is going to be more money

:35:01. > :35:05.circulating in the economy. This is nothing new. These are fairly sort

:35:06. > :35:10.of Keynesian -based mixed economy... This is nothing new, fairly centrist

:35:11. > :35:12.stuff we are talking about, just at the economic conversation has

:35:13. > :35:16.shifted so far to the right that maybe it sounds a bit odd but it's

:35:17. > :35:20.actually fairly ordinary, regular stuff. What you were talking about

:35:21. > :35:27.in terms of a post Brexit economy, I think this is one of the key areas.

:35:28. > :35:31.Sorry to interrupt, the Hillsborough campaigner Sheila Coleman is

:35:32. > :35:36.introducing the pre-video. We don't carry videos of any of the party

:35:37. > :35:41.conferences so we will leave the delegates to watch that and then we

:35:42. > :35:46.expect Mr Corbyn to start his speech and we will go straight into the

:35:47. > :35:50.hall for that. Sorry to interrupt. The Brexit issued you rightly raised

:35:51. > :35:55.was one of the best ways you could focus the Labour government, wishful

:35:56. > :36:02.thinking, the Labour Party! Right now, especially if they do think

:36:03. > :36:05.there will be a snap election. But the Conservatives are in disarray

:36:06. > :36:09.over Brexit, is it going to be hard, is it going to be soft? Single

:36:10. > :36:14.Market, not Single Market, they seemed to be clueless. I'm not sure

:36:15. > :36:23.what Labour's policy will be, you could file them both under C4

:36:24. > :36:27.clueless. That could be a unifying matter for Labour, they are much

:36:28. > :36:31.more unified than the Conservatives. Brexit is a gift for Labour, to me,

:36:32. > :36:34.because if you look at the Conservative Party, how many times

:36:35. > :36:39.have we been here again and again? Premierships have been undone by the

:36:40. > :36:48.iceberg of Europe and it seems to me that Theresa May must come up with a

:36:49. > :36:50.deal and although she doesn't give a running commentary somewhere down

:36:51. > :36:56.the line she has got to put down - this is what I'm suggesting. At that

:36:57. > :37:00.moment she must turn to her party and say- look at the deal I've got.

:37:01. > :37:06.There will be hard Brexit is who say "Is that it?" There is a moment when

:37:07. > :37:11.she has got to meet her party and sell it to her party. If team Corbyn

:37:12. > :37:15.can get their act together, if they can bring the Labour Party together

:37:16. > :37:19.that is an opportunity for them when they can pile in. But you have to

:37:20. > :37:24.say, given the week that they've just had, the tensions,

:37:25. > :37:27.difficulties, divisions and doubts over Mr Corbyn, it's an awfully big

:37:28. > :37:33.ask to think they are going to be in that position to see is that moment.

:37:34. > :37:37.We heard a policy from Mr McDonnell, still to be fleshed out, we will

:37:38. > :37:43.hear some policy from Mr Corbyn too, although from what I've seen still

:37:44. > :37:47.quite in headline terms. But is there not a danger that for Labour

:37:48. > :37:52.still there is a battle going on in the NEC, there could be a battle for

:37:53. > :37:58.the bureaucracy, including the regional leaders, boundary changes

:37:59. > :38:04.and creating an automatic selection process for MPs. On Saturday Jeremy

:38:05. > :38:09.Corbyn won a thumping great majority but the battle for the soul of the

:38:10. > :38:13.Labour Party is still raging. It is very far from over and moderates and

:38:14. > :38:17.centrists, call them what you will, they have not vanished over the

:38:18. > :38:22.horizon. They are gradually getting their act together. You do not think

:38:23. > :38:25.they are in retreat? They took a step back, of course. They lost the

:38:26. > :38:29.leadership election, they tried everything to stop Jeremy Corbyn,

:38:30. > :38:32.rule changes, keeping him off the ballot paper, stampeding him into

:38:33. > :38:36.resigning with the resignations but in a way they have grasped the

:38:37. > :38:40.gravity of their plight and they are beginning to organise. Tom Watson's

:38:41. > :38:43.speech yesterday was interesting with the pretty direct criticism of

:38:44. > :38:58.Jeremy Corbyn, likewise with Sadiq Khan. They have won the

:38:59. > :39:02.tussle over the NEC. I think they go away from this, not with their tail

:39:03. > :39:05.between their legs, yes, they have been batted, but the feeling they

:39:06. > :39:08.take away from this is we've got to do what team Corbyn does, we've got

:39:09. > :39:10.to organise. They are now talking a bit Momentum light with groups

:39:11. > :39:13.around the country to support MPs under pressure. So, again on, it's

:39:14. > :39:18.not all going Jeremy Corbyn's way. There are significant forces trying

:39:19. > :39:22.to claw back ground. The battle for the future of the Labour Party is

:39:23. > :39:29.far from over. Rachel Shabi, do you think we will see some bloody

:39:30. > :39:35.battles on the reselection - deselection front in certain

:39:36. > :39:39.constituencies? No I think there has been exaggerated. I don't think

:39:40. > :39:43.Jeremy Corbyn... He has specifically said we're not talking about

:39:44. > :39:47.deselection. I understand some local MPs might feel nervous about that

:39:48. > :39:50.but I do think there is a bigger picture here. It's a bit like

:39:51. > :39:55.running an organisation where there has been a culture change. Some

:39:56. > :39:59.people don't like the change and they will moan about it. Some at the

:40:00. > :40:04.top don't represent that change. The idea is to bring people with you,

:40:05. > :40:08.that is the idea, to bring people with you in the change but if they

:40:09. > :40:12.continue to resist it what do you do? Maybe we will find out in a

:40:13. > :40:18.minute. Let's go straight to the hall where the video has finished

:40:19. > :40:24.and Mr Corbyn is about to be introduced, the delegates are

:40:25. > :40:36.welcoming Mr Gobern, he's won to leadership elections in 12 months.

:40:37. > :40:41.-- Mr Corbyn. He will speak for 50 minutes which will take us to 3:30pm

:40:42. > :40:46.and then we will analyse what he has had to say afterwards. But we are

:40:47. > :40:51.going to bring you, as we always do, the leader's speech from all of the

:40:52. > :40:55.major party conferences live and uninterrupted. Let's dip into the

:40:56. > :41:01.hall as Mr Corbyn takes the applause and begins his address to the party

:41:02. > :41:03.faithful and to the wider electorate beyond.

:41:04. > :41:10.Jeremy Corbyn, the leader of the Labour Party.

:41:11. > :41:36.CHANTING : yes you can.

:41:37. > :41:45.JEREMY CORBYN: thank you. Thank you so much for that welcome and that

:41:46. > :41:48.introduction. This hole is absolutely packed here today in

:41:49. > :41:52.Liverpool and we've even got an overspill down the road. I want to

:41:53. > :41:55.say thank you to everyone that is here today.

:41:56. > :42:06.I want, also, before I go into my speech, to say a huge thank you to

:42:07. > :42:08.all the staff of this conference Centre who have made us so welcome

:42:09. > :42:21.and worked so hard here today. I want to say thank you to all of

:42:22. > :42:24.our Labour Party staff for all of the work they've put in for this

:42:25. > :42:26.conference today and all the other days.

:42:27. > :42:36.And I want to say a big thank you to my own staff in my office in my

:42:37. > :42:38.constituency and in Parliament for the huge support they give me and

:42:39. > :42:49.give our party all the year round. But I've got to slightly correct

:42:50. > :42:53.myself because I did say the whole is completely packed. Well, I got a

:42:54. > :42:54.message on the way in from Virgin Trains.

:42:55. > :42:59.LAUGHTER They have assured me there are 800

:43:00. > :43:08.empty seats in the hall. APPLAUSE

:43:09. > :43:15.Either way, conference, it's a huge pleasure to be holding our party's

:43:16. > :43:19.annual conference at this fantastic city. The city of Liverpool that

:43:20. > :43:25.shaped our country, economy, culture and music. Liverpool has always been

:43:26. > :43:32.central to the Labour Party and our movement. And I know some people say

:43:33. > :43:36.campaigns and protests don't change things. But the Hillsborough

:43:37. > :43:39.families have shown just how wrong that is.

:43:40. > :43:56.It's taken 27 years, but those families have shown with great

:43:57. > :44:01.courage and dignity, finally, that you can get truth and justice for

:44:02. > :44:05.the 96 who died. I want to pay tribute to all the families and

:44:06. > :44:07.campaigners for their solidarity, their commitment and their love.

:44:08. > :44:21.Thank you. And, as Andy Burnham put it to

:44:22. > :44:26.conference this morning, we must learn from them, and we promised

:44:27. > :44:31.those campaigning for justice, for all grieve, for Shrewsbury Town for

:44:32. > :44:34.thousands of workers blacklisted for being trade unionists, we will

:44:35. > :44:37.support your battles for truth and justice and when we return to

:44:38. > :44:41.government we will make sure you have both.

:44:42. > :44:57.Because winning justice for all and changing society for the benefit of

:44:58. > :45:03.all is the heart of what Labour is about. So, yes, our party is about

:45:04. > :45:09.campaigning, and it's about protest too. But most of all it's about

:45:10. > :45:11.winning power in local and national government, to deliver the real

:45:12. > :45:13.change our country so desperately needs.

:45:14. > :45:28.That's why the central task of the whole Labour Party, the whole Labour

:45:29. > :45:31.Party, must be to rebuild trust and support to win the next general

:45:32. > :45:42.election. APPLAUSE And form the next

:45:43. > :45:46.Government. That is the Government I'm determined to lead to win power

:45:47. > :45:52.for change, for Britain for the benefit of working people.

:45:53. > :45:56.APPLAUSE Everyone of us in this hall today

:45:57. > :46:00.knows that we will only get there if we work together and I think it is

:46:01. > :46:05.fair to say after what we've been through these past few months it

:46:06. > :46:12.hasn't always been exactly the case. Those months have been a testing

:46:13. > :46:16.time for the whole party. First, the horrific murder of Jo Cox, followed

:46:17. > :46:21.by the shock of the referendum result and then the tipping over of

:46:22. > :46:28.divisions in Parliament into the leadership contest that ended last

:46:29. > :46:33.Saturday. Jo's killing was a hate-filled attack on democracy that

:46:34. > :46:38.shocked the whole country. Jo Cox didn't just believe in loving her

:46:39. > :46:42.neighbour. She believed in loving her neighbour's neighbour and that

:46:43. > :46:51.every life counted and as Jo said in her maiden speech as an MP, we have

:46:52. > :46:56.far more in common with each other than things that divide us. Let that

:46:57. > :47:00.essential truth guide us as we come together again to challenge this

:47:01. > :47:12.Tory Government, and its shaky grip on power.

:47:13. > :47:16.APPLAUSE In Jo's memory, thanks for everything she did and thanks to her

:47:17. > :47:19.family and all her close friends por all they've been through and the

:47:20. > :47:29.solidarity they've shown together. So we may all learn from her life.

:47:30. > :47:35.APPLAUSE We've also lost good MPs like Michael Meacher and Harry

:47:36. > :47:39.Harpen, they were Labour through and through, passionate campaigners for

:47:40. > :47:43.a better world. Let me also pay a particular tribute

:47:44. > :47:52.to those Parliamentary colleagues who stepped forward in the summer to

:47:53. > :48:04.fill the gaps in the Shadow Cabinet. APPLAUSE And ensure that Labour

:48:05. > :48:07.could function as an effective opposition in Parliament. They

:48:08. > :48:11.actually didn't seek office, but they stepped up when their party and

:48:12. > :48:15.in fact the country needed them to serve. They all deserve the respect

:48:16. > :48:19.and gratitude of our party and movement and this conference should

:48:20. > :48:26.thank them today. They are our future.

:48:27. > :48:50.APPLAUSE We've just had our second leadership

:48:51. > :48:54.election within a year. It had its fraught moments, of course, not only

:48:55. > :48:58.for Owen Smith and me, and I hope we don't make a habit of it!

:48:59. > :49:03.LAUGHTER But there have been some up sides to

:49:04. > :49:10.it, over 150,000 new members have joined our party.

:49:11. > :49:13.APPLAUSE Young rising stars have shone on the

:49:14. > :49:20.frontbench and we found that the party is more united on policy than

:49:21. > :49:24.we would ever have guessed. I'm honoured, deeply honoured to have

:49:25. > :49:33.been re-elected by our party a second time with an even bigger

:49:34. > :49:38.mandate. APPLAUSE But we all have lessons to

:49:39. > :49:43.learn and a responsibility to do things better and to work together

:49:44. > :49:49.more effectively. I will lead in learning those lessons and I'd like

:49:50. > :49:56.to thank Owen too for the campaign and for his work as Shadow Work and

:49:57. > :50:00.Pensions secretary. APPLAUSE

:50:01. > :50:04.And also, of course, to the Labour Party staff, our own teams and the

:50:05. > :50:07.brilliant teams that support all of our members of Parliament and our

:50:08. > :50:13.party around the country. One lesson is that there is a responsibility on

:50:14. > :50:18.all of us to take care with our rhetoric. Respect democratic

:50:19. > :50:24.decisions, respect our differences and respect each other. We know that

:50:25. > :50:29.robust debate has at times spilled over into abuse and hate around our

:50:30. > :52:04.country. Including miss son-in-lawing knee

:52:05. > :52:10.country. Including miss APPLAUSE We have more of our fellow

:52:11. > :52:17.citizens in our party than all the other political parties in Britain

:52:18. > :52:21.put together. APPLAUSE

:52:22. > :52:26.Some may see this as a threat, but I see it as a vast democratic

:52:27. > :52:31.resource. Our hugely increased membership is part of a movement

:52:32. > :52:38.that can take Labour's message into every community and win support for

:52:39. > :52:49.the election of a Labour Government. APPLAUSE Each and every one of these

:52:50. > :52:54.new members is welcome in our party. And after a ten year absence, we

:52:55. > :53:04.welcome back the Fire Brigades' Union into our party and to our

:53:05. > :53:13.conference. APPLAUSE We are reuniting the Labour

:53:14. > :53:17.family, but I want to also if I may to say thank you to the firefighters

:53:18. > :53:20.and indeed all of the public sector workers who worked so hard to save

:53:21. > :53:26.people during the floods last winter. Thank you for everything you

:53:27. > :53:29.do. APPLAUSE

:53:30. > :53:34.And over the past year, we've shown what Labour can do when the party

:53:35. > :53:39.stands together. At conference a year ago, I launched our campaign

:53:40. > :53:44.against cuts to tax credits and we succeeded in knocking this

:53:45. > :53:50.Government back. APPLAUSE

:53:51. > :53:56.This year, this year, three million families are over ?1,000 better off

:53:57. > :53:58.because Labour stood together. APPLAUSE

:53:59. > :54:02.In the Budget, the Government tried to take away billions from disabled

:54:03. > :54:11.people, but we defeated them on that.

:54:12. > :54:14.APPLAUSE And we won all four Parliamentary by-elections and I

:54:15. > :54:19.welcome our new colleagues into Parliament and the great victories

:54:20. > :54:21.they achieved. APPLAUSE

:54:22. > :54:26.In the May elections, we overtook the Tories to become the largest

:54:27. > :54:31.party nationally. We won back London with a massive win for Sadiq Khan,

:54:32. > :54:39.the first Muslim Mayor of A western capital city. My congratulations

:54:40. > :54:42.Sidique for that incredible win. APPLAUSE

:54:43. > :54:47.And we won the Bristol mayor for the first time.

:54:48. > :54:53.APPLAUSE The first black Mayor of Any

:54:54. > :55:02.European city. My congratulations to Marvin. And we also won the mayor in

:55:03. > :55:08.Salford and right here in Liverpool. Congratulations.

:55:09. > :55:12.That's the road of advance we have to return to if we're going to

:55:13. > :55:17.challenge the Tories for power and turn the huge growth in the Labour

:55:18. > :55:22.Party into electoral support we need right across Britain.

:55:23. > :55:27.There is no doubt that my election as Labour leader a year ago and

:55:28. > :55:31.re-election this month grew out of a thirst for a new kind of politics

:55:32. > :55:35.and a conviction that the old way of running the economy in the country

:55:36. > :55:41.isn't delivering for more and more people. It's not, I promise you

:55:42. > :55:46.about me, of course, or unique to Britain, but across Europe, and

:55:47. > :55:53.North America and elsewhere, people are fed-up with the so-called

:55:54. > :55:57.free-market system that has produced grotesque inequality, stagnating

:55:58. > :56:01.living standards, and many calamitous foreign wars out end and

:56:02. > :56:07.a political stitch-up which leaves the vast majority of people shut out

:56:08. > :56:12.of power. Since the crash of 2008, the demand for an alternative and an

:56:13. > :56:16.end to counter productive austerity has led to the rise of new movements

:56:17. > :56:22.and parties in one country after another. But in Britain, it has

:56:23. > :56:26.happened in a different way. In the heart of traditional politics, in

:56:27. > :56:31.the Labour Party. Which is something we should be extremely proud of. It

:56:32. > :56:36.is exactly what Labour was founded for, to be the voice of the many of

:56:37. > :56:39.social justice and progressive change from the bottom up.

:56:40. > :56:56.APPLAUSE But it also means it is no good

:56:57. > :56:59.harking back to the tired old economic and political fixes of 20

:57:00. > :57:06.and 30 years ago because they won't work anymore. The old model is

:57:07. > :57:09.broken. We're in a new era. That demands a politics and economics

:57:10. > :57:14.that meets the needs of our own time.

:57:15. > :57:17.Actually, even Theresa May gets it, sort of!

:57:18. > :57:20.LAUGHTER That people want change, that's why

:57:21. > :57:24.she stood on the steps of Downing Street and talked about the

:57:25. > :57:28.inequalities and burning injustice in today's Britain.

:57:29. > :57:32.LAUGHTER Well, she said it!

:57:33. > :57:35.LAUGHTER In fact, she promise add country

:57:36. > :57:41.that works not for a privileged few, but for every one of us.

:57:42. > :57:44.But even if she manages to talk the talk, there are problems about

:57:45. > :57:51.walking the walk! This isn't a new Government. It's

:57:52. > :57:55.David Cameron's Government repackaged with progressive slogans,

:57:56. > :58:00.but with a new harsh right-wing edge. Taking the country backwards

:58:01. > :58:10.and dithering before the historic challenges of Brexit.

:58:11. > :58:14.APPLAUSE Who seriously believes that the Tories could ever stand up to

:58:15. > :58:23.the privileged few? They are the party of the privileged

:58:24. > :58:26.few. APPLAUSE

:58:27. > :58:37.Funded by the privileged few, for the benefit of the privileged few.

:58:38. > :58:43.APPLAUSE Theirs is a party after all that now

:58:44. > :58:48.wants to force through an undemocratic boundary review based

:58:49. > :58:52.on an out of date version of the electoral register with nearly two

:58:53. > :59:00.million voters missing. They've dressed it up as a bid to cut the

:59:01. > :59:06.cost of politics. By abolishing 50 constituencies, but the ?12 million

:59:07. > :59:11.savings are dwarfed by the expense of the 260 peers David Cameron

:59:12. > :59:22.appointed at a cost of ?34 million a year.

:59:23. > :59:31.APPLAUSE It's nothing more than a sin deal attempt to gerrymander the

:59:32. > :59:33.next election. APPLAUSE

:59:34. > :59:40.And this is from a Prime Minister who was elevated to a job without a

:59:41. > :59:44.single vote being cast after a pantomime fuss which saw one leading

:59:45. > :59:48.Tory after another falling on their swords. When I meet Theresa May

:59:49. > :59:53.across the dispatch box I know that only one of us has been elected to

:59:54. > :00:02.the office they hold by the votes of a third of a million people.

:00:03. > :00:06.APPLAUSE In any case, the Tories are simply

:00:07. > :00:12.incapable of responding to the breakdown of the old economic model

:00:13. > :00:16.because that failed model is absolutely in their political DNA.

:00:17. > :00:22.It is what they deliver every time they're in Government. Tory

:00:23. > :00:26.Governments deregulate, they outsource and privatise and stand by

:00:27. > :00:30.as inequality grows. They have cut taxes for the privileged few and

:00:31. > :00:35.sold off our national assets, calls on the cheap and turned a blind eye

:00:36. > :00:40.to their chronic tax avoidance. They're so committed to the

:00:41. > :00:48.interests of the very richest, they've recruited Sir Philip Green

:00:49. > :00:53.into Government as an efficiency tsar, I'm not sure what a an

:00:54. > :00:57.efficiency tsar does, Government might be more efficient if the super

:00:58. > :01:01.rich like Sir Philip actually paid their taxes.

:01:02. > :01:21.APPLAUSE when government steps back there are

:01:22. > :01:25.consequences for every one of us. What's happened to housing under the

:01:26. > :01:29.Tories. House-building has fallen to the lowest level since the 1920s,

:01:30. > :01:37.nearly a century ago. Homeownership is falling as more people are priced

:01:38. > :01:41.out of the market. Evictions, and disgracefully homelessness and a

:01:42. > :01:46.rough sleeping go up month after month, year after year. Council

:01:47. > :01:50.homes are being sold off without being replaced. And another

:01:51. > :01:54.consequence of that is that we, all of us, are paying over ?9 billion a

:01:55. > :02:01.year to private landlords in housing benefit to pay the rent. Instead of

:02:02. > :02:05.spending public money on building council housing we are subsidising

:02:06. > :02:08.private landlords. That's wasteful, inefficient, and frankly poor

:02:09. > :02:22.government. So, Labour will, as Teresa Pearce

:02:23. > :02:26.said, build over 1 million new homes, at least half of them council

:02:27. > :02:29.homes and we will control private rents so we can give every British

:02:30. > :02:32.family that basic human rights, decent home.

:02:33. > :02:43.It's the same in the jobs market. Without proper employment regulation

:02:44. > :02:49.there has been an explosion of temporary, insecure jobs. Nearly 1

:02:50. > :02:54.million people on zero-hours contracts not knowing what their

:02:55. > :02:58.earnings are going to be. There are now 6 million working people earning

:02:59. > :03:04.less than the Living Wage and the poverty amongst those in work is at

:03:05. > :03:09.record levels. That didn't happen by accident. The Tories have torn up

:03:10. > :03:14.employment rights, and deliberately tried to weaken the organisations

:03:15. > :03:16.that get people justice in work, the trade unions.

:03:17. > :03:29.Of course, trade unions are not taking this lying down. Look at the

:03:30. > :03:30.great campaign Unite has waged at Sports Direct to get justice for

:03:31. > :03:41.exploited workers. And hold Mike Ashley to account.

:03:42. > :03:45.That is why Labour will repeal the trade union act and set unions free

:03:46. > :03:46.to do their jobs defending and supporting their members and rights

:03:47. > :04:18.at work. And we will raise the minimum wage

:04:19. > :04:24.to a real Living Wage that brings working people out of poverty and we

:04:25. > :04:25.will ban zero-hours contracts, as John McDonnell...

:04:26. > :04:29.APPLAUSE ... John McDonnell, our Shadow

:04:30. > :04:33.Chancellor and Ian Lavery set this out very clearly at conference this

:04:34. > :04:38.week. And then there is the scandal of the privatised railways.

:04:39. > :04:45.More public subsidy than under the days of British rail, all going to

:04:46. > :04:50.private firms, and more delays, more cancellations, and on top of that

:04:51. > :04:54.the highest fares in Europe. That's why the great majority of British

:04:55. > :04:59.people back Labour's plan set out so well by Andrew McDonald this week to

:05:00. > :05:03.take the railways back into public ownership.

:05:04. > :05:26.But if you want the most spectacular example of what happens when

:05:27. > :05:31.government steps back, the global banking crash is an object lesson of

:05:32. > :05:35.greed and speculation and deregulation that crashed economies

:05:36. > :05:39.across the globe and required the biggest ever government intervention

:05:40. > :05:46.and public bailout in history. Millions of ordinary families paid

:05:47. > :05:49.the price of that failure. I pledge that Labour will never let a few

:05:50. > :05:53.reckless bankers wreck our economy again.

:05:54. > :06:08.So, Labour is offering solutions during this summer's leadership

:06:09. > :06:12.campaign I set out ten pledges which I believe can be the platform of our

:06:13. > :06:16.party's programme for the next election. They were put a conference

:06:17. > :06:22.yesterday in an NEC statement. They lay out the scope of the change we

:06:23. > :06:26.need to see. For full employment, a homes Guaranty, security at work, a

:06:27. > :06:33.strong, public National Health Service and social care, a national

:06:34. > :06:38.education service for all, action on climate change, public ownership and

:06:39. > :06:42.control of our services, the cut in inequality of income and wealth,

:06:43. > :06:44.action to secure an equal society and peace and justice at the heart

:06:45. > :07:00.of our foreign policy. Don't worry, Conference, they are

:07:01. > :07:06.not the Ten Commandments. I haven't come down from the mountain with

:07:07. > :07:09.them. They are here already and they will now, of course, go to the

:07:10. > :07:14.national policy Forum and the whole party needs to build on them, all

:07:15. > :07:20.our brilliant members have ideas, imagination and inspiration. We want

:07:21. > :07:24.to hear to have your help on refining those policies, and above

:07:25. > :07:28.all, take them out of the people of this country, take them out so that

:07:29. > :07:31.we get support on them. But those ten pledges, the core of the

:07:32. > :07:36.platform on which I was re-elected will now form the framework of what

:07:37. > :07:41.the Labour Party will campaign for and what the Labour government will

:07:42. > :07:45.do. Together, they show the direction of change we are

:07:46. > :07:51.determined to take command outline a programme to rebuild and transform

:07:52. > :07:55.Britain. They are rooted in traditional Labour values and

:07:56. > :08:02.objectives. But they are shaped to meet the challenges of the

:08:03. > :08:06.21st-century. They are values Labour is united on. They reflect the views

:08:07. > :08:11.and aspirations of the majority of our people, and they are values our

:08:12. > :08:12.country can and will support as soon as they are given the chance to do

:08:13. > :08:24.it. These pledges are not just words.

:08:25. > :08:28.Already across the country Labour councils are putting Labour values

:08:29. > :08:31.into action in a way that makes a real difference to the millions of

:08:32. > :08:36.people, despite cynical government funding cuts that have hit Labour

:08:37. > :08:39.councils, often representing the poorest parts of the country five

:08:40. > :08:53.times as hard as Tory run areas. Good examples like Nottingham City

:08:54. > :08:55.Council setting up the not for profit Robin Hood energy company to

:08:56. > :09:05.provide affordable energy. Or Cardiff bus company taking

:09:06. > :09:10.100,000 customers every day publicly owned with a passenger panel to hold

:09:11. > :09:14.its directors to account. APPLAUSE

:09:15. > :09:18.Or Preston council working to favour local procurement and keep money in

:09:19. > :09:23.the town. Or Newcastle council providing free

:09:24. > :09:25.Wi-Fi in 69 public buildings across the city.

:09:26. > :09:29.Or Croydon council which has set up the company to build 1000 new homes,

:09:30. > :09:34.and as Councillor Alison Butler said we can no longer afford to sit back

:09:35. > :09:39.and let the market take its course. Or Glasgow, that has established a

:09:40. > :09:43.high quality and flexible working places for start-up, high-growth

:09:44. > :09:47.companies in dynamic new sectors. For, right here in Liverpool, set to

:09:48. > :09:56.be at the global forefront of a new wave of technology - the ?50 million

:09:57. > :10:00.business hub that aims to create 300 start-up businesses and 1000 jobs

:10:01. > :10:05.over the next decade. There are many other examples. It's a proud Labour

:10:06. > :10:09.record, each and every Labour councillor deserves our heartfelt

:10:10. > :10:10.thanks for the work they do and the difficulties they endure in doing

:10:11. > :10:24.it. But I want to go further because we

:10:25. > :10:27.want local government to go further and put public enterprise back into

:10:28. > :10:33.the heart of our economy and services to meet the needs of local

:10:34. > :10:37.communities. Municipal socialism for the 21st-century as an engine of

:10:38. > :10:41.local growth and development. That's why I'm announcing that Labour will

:10:42. > :10:47.remove the artificial borrowing cap and allow councils to borrow against

:10:48. > :10:53.their housing stock. That single measure alone...

:10:54. > :10:59.APPLAUSE ... That single measure alone would

:11:00. > :11:07.allow them to build an extra 12,000 council homes a year. Labour

:11:08. > :11:11.councils increasingly have a policy of in-house as the preferred

:11:12. > :11:16.provider and many councils have brought bin collections, cleaners

:11:17. > :11:21.and IT services back in-house in sourcing privatised contracts to

:11:22. > :11:23.save money for council taxpayers and ensure good terms and conditions for

:11:24. > :11:37.their staff. I have said that Labour will put

:11:38. > :11:41.security at work and employment and union rights from day one, centre

:11:42. > :11:47.stage. But one in six workers in Britain are now self-employed. Their

:11:48. > :11:51.right to value their independence but for too many it comes with

:11:52. > :11:54.insecurity and a woeful lack of rights. So we will review

:11:55. > :11:59.arrangements for self-employed people, including Social Security

:12:00. > :12:04.that self-employed people pay for in their taxes yet aren't fully covered

:12:05. > :12:09.by it. We will ensure that successful innovators have access to

:12:10. > :12:14.the finance necessary to take their ideas to the next level, grow their

:12:15. > :12:19.businesses and generate employment. So as part of our workplace 2020

:12:20. > :12:23.review we will make sure that our tax and social security arrangements

:12:24. > :12:26.are fit for the 21st-century, consulting with self-employed

:12:27. > :12:29.workers and the Federation of Small Business is.

:12:30. > :12:41.If the Tories are the party of cuts and short-term as an, Labour is the

:12:42. > :12:53.party of investing for the future. With the same level of investment as

:12:54. > :13:00.other major economies we could be so much more, unlock so much skill,

:13:01. > :13:05.ingenuity and wealth. That's why we will establish a national investment

:13:06. > :13:10.bank at the heart of our plan to rebuild and transform this country.

:13:11. > :13:14.And we will borrow to invest at historically low interest rates to

:13:15. > :13:19.generate far greater returns. It would be foolish not to because that

:13:20. > :13:24.investment is expanding the economy and the income it generates for us

:13:25. > :13:27.all in the process. Even this government, after years of austerity

:13:28. > :13:34.and savage cuts is starting to change its tune. I'm not content

:13:35. > :13:40.with accepting second class broadband. Not content with creaking

:13:41. > :13:44.railways. Not content with seeing the United States and Germany

:13:45. > :13:48.investing in cutting-edge and green technologies, while we lag behind.

:13:49. > :13:54.Last year, for example, the Prime Minister promised a universal

:13:55. > :13:59.service obligation of 10 megabytes broadband. But since then the

:14:00. > :14:02.government has done nothing, letting down entrepreneurs, businesses and

:14:03. > :14:07.families, especially those in rural areas that want to grow the economy.

:14:08. > :14:13.That's why we have set out proposals for in national investment bank with

:14:14. > :14:17.500 billion of investment to bring our broadband, railways, our housing

:14:18. > :14:19.and our energy infrastructure up to scratch.

:14:20. > :14:34.A country that doesn't invest is a country that has given up, that has

:14:35. > :14:35.taken the path of managed decline. A Labour government will never accept

:14:36. > :14:50.second best for this country. Our country's history is based on

:14:51. > :14:56.individual ingenuity and collective endeavour. We other country of Ada

:14:57. > :15:01.Lovelace, Alan Turing, Tim Berners-Lee, is about Kingdom Brunel

:15:02. > :15:08.and the George Stephenson, Eric Laithwaite, brilliant people that

:15:09. > :15:12.created and develop so much. But the Tories have turned their back on

:15:13. > :15:18.this proud British tradition. They have put privatisation and cutting

:15:19. > :15:22.spending first. Britain now spends less on research as a share of

:15:23. > :15:27.national income than France, Germany and the US and China. A Labour

:15:28. > :15:31.government will bring research and development up to 3% of GDP.

:15:32. > :15:48.Yesterday Rebecca Long-Bailey set out the terms of our industrial

:15:49. > :15:53.strategy review. We need an economy that works for every part of this

:15:54. > :15:59.country so that no community is left behind. And today I'm asking

:16:00. > :16:02.everyone, businesses, academics, workers, trade unions, and anyone

:16:03. > :16:06.who cares about our future prosperity to have a say in that

:16:07. > :16:11.review. We are a wealthy country, not just in terms of money. We are

:16:12. > :16:15.rich in talent, Rich in potential, that's why we have proposed a

:16:16. > :16:19.comprehensive national education service at the heart of our

:16:20. > :16:20.programme for government to deliver high quality education for all

:16:21. > :16:45.throughout our lives. Education has always been a core

:16:46. > :16:49.Labour value. From the time of the MP for Jarrow and a national

:16:50. > :16:57.education system will be an essential part of a 21st estate.

:16:58. > :17:02.People need to upgrade their skills without falling into debt. Britain

:17:03. > :17:05.falls behind others in productivity, partly that's about investing in

:17:06. > :17:10.technology and infrastructure and partly it is about investing in

:17:11. > :17:15.people and their skills. How can we build and expand the sectors of the

:17:16. > :17:20.future without a skilled workforce? But this Conservative Government has

:17:21. > :17:24.slashed adult education budgets. Taking away opportunities for people

:17:25. > :17:27.to develop their skills and leaving businesses struggling to find the

:17:28. > :17:32.skilled workforce they need to succeed. So today, I'm offering

:17:33. > :17:38.business a new settlement. A new deal to rebuild Britain. Under

:17:39. > :17:41.Labour, we will provide the investment to rebuild Britain's

:17:42. > :17:45.infrastructure. We will fund that investment because it will lead to a

:17:46. > :17:50.more productive economy. Providing the basis on which our economy and

:17:51. > :17:53.our businesses can thrive. Helping to provide over one million good

:17:54. > :17:58.jobs and opportunities for businesses. But investment in

:17:59. > :18:02.capital must include investment in human capital. The skilled workers

:18:03. > :18:07.needed to make our economy a success. So this is the deal Labour

:18:08. > :18:11.will offer to Beus -- to help pay for a national education service,

:18:12. > :18:16.we'll ask you to pay a little more in tax. We've already started to set

:18:17. > :18:22.out some of this, pledging to raise corporation tax by less than 1.5% to

:18:23. > :18:25.give an Education Maintenance Allowance to college students,

:18:26. > :18:30.grants to university students, so that every young learner can afford

:18:31. > :18:34.to support themselves as they develop skills and get

:18:35. > :18:48.qualifications. APPLAUSE

:18:49. > :18:54.Business shares in economic success and it must contribute to it too.

:18:55. > :18:59.And I recognise that good businesses deserve a level playing field. So I

:19:00. > :19:04.also pledge to good businesses that we will clamp down on those that

:19:05. > :19:10.dodge their taxes, you should not be under cut by those that don't play

:19:11. > :19:18.by the rules. APPLAUSE There is nothing more

:19:19. > :19:23.unpatriotic than not paying your taxes. Frankly, it is an act of

:19:24. > :19:27.vandalism, damaging our National Health Service, damaging older

:19:28. > :19:32.people's social care, damaging younger people's education, so a

:19:33. > :19:37.Labour Government will make the shabby tax avoidance a thing of the

:19:38. > :19:47.past. APPLAUSE Our national education

:19:48. > :19:52.service is going to be every bit as vital as our National Health Service

:19:53. > :19:57.has become. And we recognise that education isn't simply about

:19:58. > :20:01.preparing for the workplace. It is also about exploration of knowledge

:20:02. > :20:06.and unlocking the creativity that's there in every human being. So all

:20:07. > :20:11.scul pupils should have the chance to learn an instrument, take part in

:20:12. > :20:16.drama and dance, have regular access to a theatre, gallery, museum in

:20:17. > :20:23.their local area. So that's why we will introduce an arts pupil premium

:20:24. > :20:29.to every primary school in England and Wales and consult on the

:20:30. > :20:34.national design and roll-out to extend this pupil premium to all

:20:35. > :20:39.secondary schools. This will be a ?160 million boost to schools to

:20:40. > :20:42.invest in projects that support cultural activities to school over

:20:43. > :20:46.the longer term. It could hardly be more different from the Tory

:20:47. > :20:52.approach to education. Their only plan is the return of grammar school

:20:53. > :20:58.segregation and second class schooling for the majority.

:20:59. > :21:04.APPLAUSE And what a great job, Angela Rayner

:21:05. > :21:18.is doing in opposing them in this! APPLAUSE

:21:19. > :21:23.So this Saturday, 1st October, I want you to take this message into

:21:24. > :21:36.your community, that Labour is standing up for education for all.

:21:37. > :21:41.APPLAUSE Grammar schools are not the only way the Tories are bringing

:21:42. > :21:46.division back into our society. They're also using the tried and

:21:47. > :21:51.tested tricks of demonising and scapegoating to distract from their

:21:52. > :21:56.failures. Whether it is single mothers, unemployed people, disabled

:21:57. > :22:07.people or migrants, Tory failure is always someone else's fault.

:22:08. > :22:11.APPLAUSE And those smears have consequences from children being

:22:12. > :22:16.bullied in school, to attacks on the street such as the rise in

:22:17. > :22:20.disability hate crime. I'm so proud of this party. In the last year we

:22:21. > :22:25.stood up to the Government on cuts to disabled people's benefits and

:22:26. > :22:30.cuts to working families tax credits and on Monday our shadow work Work

:22:31. > :22:34.and Pensions Secretary announced we would be scrapping the sanctions

:22:35. > :22:55.regime and the degrading work capability assessment.

:22:56. > :23:01.Plus plus as politicians, as political activists, as citizens we

:23:02. > :23:10.have zero tolerance towards those who whip up hate and division. Stand

:23:11. > :23:17.together against racism, Islamophobia and anti-semitism and

:23:18. > :23:26.defend those being demonised. APPLAUSE It has been shaming to our

:23:27. > :23:30.multi-cultural society that assaults on migrants have increased sharply

:23:31. > :23:35.since the referendum campaign. A campaign that pedalled myths and

:23:36. > :23:40.whipped up division. It isn't migrants that drive down wages. It

:23:41. > :23:43.is exploitive employers and the politicians who deregulate the

:23:44. > :23:48.labour market and rip up trade union rights.

:23:49. > :23:54.APPLAUSE It isn't migrants who put a strain

:23:55. > :23:58.on our National Health Service. It only keeps going because of the

:23:59. > :24:02.migrant nurses and doctors who come here filling the gaps left by

:24:03. > :24:07.politicians who failed to invest in training.

:24:08. > :24:11.APPLAUSE It isn't migrants that have caused a

:24:12. > :24:15.housing crisis, it is a Tory Government that has failed to build

:24:16. > :24:24.homes. APPLAUSE Immigration can certainly

:24:25. > :24:30.put extra pressure on services that's why under Gordon Brown Labour

:24:31. > :24:34.set up the migrant impact fund to provide extra funding to communities

:24:35. > :24:39.that have the largest rises in populations. Good plan. Very

:24:40. > :24:43.effective. What did the Tories do? They abolished it. Then they

:24:44. > :24:47.demonise the migrants for putting pressure on services. A Labour

:24:48. > :24:55.Government will not offer false promises on immigration as the

:24:56. > :24:58.Tories have done, we will not sow division by fanning the flames of

:24:59. > :25:03.fear, whatever the outcome of Brexit negotiations and make the changes

:25:04. > :25:08.that are needed. We will act decisively to end the under cutting

:25:09. > :25:10.of workers pay and conditions through the exploitation of migrant

:25:11. > :25:17.labour and agency working which would reduce the number of migrant

:25:18. > :25:21.workers in the process. APPLAUSE

:25:22. > :25:25.And we will ease the pressure on hard-pressed public services that

:25:26. > :25:29.are struggling to absorb Tory austerity cuts in communities

:25:30. > :25:34.absorbing new populations. Labour will reinstate the migrant impact

:25:35. > :25:39.fund and give extra support to areas of high migration, using the visa

:25:40. > :25:41.levy for its intended purpose. APPLAUSE

:25:42. > :25:46.And we'll add a citizenship application fee levy to boost the

:25:47. > :25:52.fund. That is the Labour way to tackle social tension. Investment

:25:53. > :26:03.and assistance, not racism and division.

:26:04. > :26:09.APPLAUSE This party campaigned hard to remain in the European Union and

:26:10. > :26:16.I spoke at rallies from Cornwall to Aberdeen for our Labour campaign to

:26:17. > :26:20.remain and reform, but although most Labour voters backeds, we did not

:26:21. > :26:24.convince millions of Labour voters especially in those parts of the

:26:25. > :26:26.country left behind, left behind by years of neglect and under

:26:27. > :26:31.investment and de-industrialisation, now we have to face the future

:26:32. > :26:34.together. We're not helped by patronising or lecturing those in

:26:35. > :26:39.our communities who voted to leave, they have to hear their concerns

:26:40. > :26:42.about jobs, public services, wages, immigration, and a future for their

:26:43. > :26:46.children and we have to respect their votes and the decision of the

:26:47. > :26:55.British people. Of course, that does not mean giving a blank cheque to

:26:56. > :26:59.Theresa May and her three legged team of fractious Brexiteers as they

:27:00. > :27:03.work up a negotiating plan, but it is unfortunately they have a

:27:04. > :27:09.distraction from that because they have to squabble about whose turn it

:27:10. > :27:16.is to go to a country retreat each weekend! We've made it clear that we

:27:17. > :27:23.will resist a Brexit at the expense of workers' rights and social

:27:24. > :27:27.justice. APPLAUSE

:27:28. > :27:30.We've set out our red lines on employment, environmental and social

:27:31. > :27:36.protection, and on access to the European market. But we will also be

:27:37. > :27:41.pressing our own Brexit agenda including the freedom to intervene

:27:42. > :27:47.in our own industries like steel. Without the obligation to liberalise

:27:48. > :27:52.or privatise public services. APPLAUSE

:27:53. > :27:57.And building a new relationship with Europe based on co-operation and

:27:58. > :28:02.internationalism. And as Europe faces the impact of a refugee

:28:03. > :28:07.crisis, fuelled by wars across the Middle East, we have to face the

:28:08. > :28:10.role that repeated military interventions by British and other

:28:11. > :28:15.governments have played in that crisis.

:28:16. > :28:20.APPLAUSE The Chilcot Report made absolutely

:28:21. > :28:24.clear the lessons to be learnt from the disastrous invasion and

:28:25. > :28:27.occupation of Iraq, just as this month the Foreign Affairs Select

:28:28. > :28:31.Committee report into the war in Libya demonstrated. Those lessons

:28:32. > :28:35.have still to be learned a decade on.

:28:36. > :28:43.APPLAUSE The consequence of those wars have

:28:44. > :28:46.been a spread of terrorism, and violence across and that displaced

:28:47. > :28:50.millions of people, forcing them from their countries. That's why I

:28:51. > :28:53.believe it was right to apologise on behalf of the party for the Iraq

:28:54. > :29:01.war. Right to say that we learned the lessons.

:29:02. > :29:24.APPLAUSE And right to say... And right to say

:29:25. > :29:29.that such a ka tros it is a trofy must never be allowed to happen

:29:30. > :29:32.again. We need a foreign policy based on peace, justice and Human

:29:33. > :29:36.Rights. I tell you this today what great news it is to hear the peace

:29:37. > :29:44.treaty that's been agreed in Columbia after 50 years of

:29:45. > :29:47.devastating war. APPLAUSE

:29:48. > :29:51.And we need to honour our international treaty obligations on

:29:52. > :29:55.nuclear disarmament as much as we do on Human Rights and other things and

:29:56. > :29:59.encourage others to do the same. But we're a long way from that

:30:00. > :30:05.humanitarian vision. Britain continues to sell arms to Saudi

:30:06. > :30:10.Arabia, a country the United Nations says is committing repeated

:30:11. > :30:15.violations of international hult war, war yims in Yemen and on

:30:16. > :30:20.Sunday, it was good to stand alongside the Yemeni community here

:30:21. > :30:25.in Liverpool who endorsed our call to end those arms sales to Saudi

:30:26. > :30:28.Arabia. APPLAUSE

:30:29. > :30:33.Just as the war crimes that are going on in other places such as

:30:34. > :30:35.Syria. There has to be a political solution to the conflicts.

:30:36. > :30:51.APPLAUSE Today I make it clear that under a

:30:52. > :30:55.Labour government when there are credible reports of human rights

:30:56. > :30:55.abuses British arms sales will be suspended, starting with Saudi

:30:56. > :31:26.Arabia. Last year the votes we needed to win

:31:27. > :31:31.power went many different ways in all parts of our country, while

:31:32. > :31:36.millions of our potential voters stayed home. Many didn't believe

:31:37. > :31:42.that we offered an alternative, it is true there is an electoral

:31:43. > :31:45.mountain to climb. But if we focus everything on the needs and

:31:46. > :31:51.aspirations of middle and lower-income voters, of ordinary

:31:52. > :31:56.families, if we demonstrate we have a viable alternative to the

:31:57. > :32:00.Government's failed policies I'm convinced, absolutely convinced, we

:32:01. > :32:03.can build the electoral support that can beat the Tories.

:32:04. > :32:17.This means being the voice of women, of young people, pensioners, middle

:32:18. > :32:19.and lower-income workers, the unemployed, the self-employed,

:32:20. > :32:23.minority communities and those struggling with the impact of

:32:24. > :32:28.migration and work and everyone struggling to get on and trying to

:32:29. > :32:36.secure a better life for themselves, their families and their

:32:37. > :32:39.communities. Running throughout history is the struggle for equality

:32:40. > :32:46.by rampant inequality has become the great scandal of our time, sapping

:32:47. > :32:50.the potential of our Society, tearing at its fabric. Labour's goal

:32:51. > :32:55.isn't just greater inequality of wealth and income. It's also about

:32:56. > :33:00.powerful stop our aim could not be more ambitious. We want a new

:33:01. > :33:04.settlement for the 21st-century in politics, in business, our

:33:05. > :33:08.communities, with the environment, and in our relations with the rest

:33:09. > :33:12.of the world. Every one of us in the Labour Party is motivated by the cap

:33:13. > :33:20.of what our country is and what it could be. -- by the gap.

:33:21. > :33:27.APPLAUSE We know that in the sixth largest

:33:28. > :33:31.economy in the world the food banks, stunted life chances and growing

:33:32. > :33:35.poverty alongside wealth on an undreamt of scale are a mark of a

:33:36. > :33:38.shameful and totally unnecessary failure.

:33:39. > :33:52.We know how great this country could be for all its people with a new

:33:53. > :33:56.political and economic settlement with new forms of democratic

:33:57. > :34:01.ownership driven by investment in the technology and industries of the

:34:02. > :34:07.future, with decent jobs, education and housing for all, with local

:34:08. > :34:11.services run by and for people, not outsourced to faceless corporations.

:34:12. > :34:13.This is not backward looking. This is very much the opposite. It's the

:34:14. > :34:30.socialism of the 21st-century. Our job is now to win over the

:34:31. > :34:35.unconvinced of our vision. Only that way can we secure the Labour

:34:36. > :34:39.government we need. And let's be frank, no one would be convinced of

:34:40. > :34:44.the vision promoted by a divided party. We all agree on that.

:34:45. > :34:49.APPLAUSE So I ask each and every one of you

:34:50. > :34:51.to accept the decision of the members, and the trench warfare, and

:34:52. > :35:32.work together to take on the Tories! Conference, anything else is a

:35:33. > :35:38.luxury that the millions of people who depend on Labour cannot afford.

:35:39. > :35:43.We know there will be local elections next May. In Scotland

:35:44. > :35:50.where we won three by-elections this summer in Wales, thank you Labour

:35:51. > :35:55.Scotland, Wales and across the counties in England, and Metro

:35:56. > :35:59.mayoral elections, including right here on Merseyside, where my good

:36:00. > :36:06.friend Steve Rotheram will be standing as Labour's candidate.

:36:07. > :36:20.Steve, best of luck. I will miss your comradeship, your humour, your

:36:21. > :36:26.criticism. LAUGHTER

:36:27. > :36:33.And your wonderful support. APPLAUSE

:36:34. > :36:40.And, on the same day we are going to be electing Andy Burnham in

:36:41. > :36:45.Manchester and Sian Simon in Birmingham.

:36:46. > :36:59.Big Labour victories on the same day. Are we agreed on that?

:37:00. > :37:00.CHEERING But...

:37:01. > :37:05.LAUGHTER There is always a but, isn't the? We

:37:06. > :37:11.could also face a General Election next year. Whatever the Prime

:37:12. > :37:14.Minister says about snap elections there is every chance Theresa May

:37:15. > :37:21.will cut and run for an early election. So today we put ourselves

:37:22. > :37:24.on notice. Labour is preparing for a General Election in 2017.

:37:25. > :37:43.And we hope and expect all our members to support our campaign. We

:37:44. > :37:51.will be ready for the challenge whenever it comes.

:37:52. > :37:55.APPLAUSE Let's do it and be ready for that

:37:56. > :38:05.challenge. Let's do it in the spirit of the great Scots born Liverpool

:38:06. > :38:09.football manager Bill Shankly. APPLAUSE

:38:10. > :38:15.Sorry, Andy, I know Andy is an Everton supporter. Don't go! Stay!

:38:16. > :38:18.You're going to like it, Andy, don't worry.

:38:19. > :38:22.The socialism I believe in is everybody working for the same goal

:38:23. > :38:24.and everybody having a share in the rewards. That's how I see football

:38:25. > :38:43.and that's how I see life. We are not all Bill Shanklys, each

:38:44. > :38:52.of us comes to our socialism from our own experiences. Mine was shaped

:38:53. > :38:57.by my mum and dad, a teacher and an engineer. Both very committed

:38:58. > :39:00.socialists and peace campaigners. My mum's inspiration was to encourage

:39:01. > :39:04.girls to believe they could achieve anything in their lives.

:39:05. > :39:10.APPLAUSE And I've met some of the people she

:39:11. > :39:15.taught. She inspired so many girls to take up science and engineering

:39:16. > :39:19.because of her example. And in my experience working as a volunteer

:39:20. > :39:23.teacher in Jamaica when I was a young man taught me so much about

:39:24. > :39:28.the strength of communities living in adversity and showing the most

:39:29. > :39:32.amazing solidarity to each other in poverty and in remote communities,

:39:33. > :39:34.and determined to achieve something collectively good for their entire

:39:35. > :39:51.community. And later I spent years as a union

:39:52. > :39:53.organiser in the National union of Public employees, representing low

:39:54. > :39:56.paid workers, fighting for the national minimum wage, fighting for

:39:57. > :40:01.decent wages and conditions, unions make us strong but also it's the

:40:02. > :40:05.determination of people to be strong for themselves, and above all strong

:40:06. > :40:18.for each other that shakes my politics, shakes my ideas and shapes

:40:19. > :40:24.my values. -- shapes my ideas. As the great American poet Langston

:40:25. > :40:27.Hughes put it, I see that my own hands can make the world that's in

:40:28. > :40:41.my mind. Everyone here and every one of our

:40:42. > :40:47.hundreds and thousands of members has some thing to contribute to our

:40:48. > :40:51.cause. That's why we will unite, build on our policies, take our

:40:52. > :40:59.vision out to a country crying out for change. We are 500,000 of us and

:41:00. > :41:04.there will be many more, working together to make our country the

:41:05. > :41:10.place it could be. Conference, united we can shape the future and

:41:11. > :41:18.build a fairer Britain in a peaceful world. Thank you.

:41:19. > :41:40.STUDIO: And Jeremy Corbyn getting applauded as they all rise to their

:41:41. > :41:44.feet, as it comes to an end, he didn't speak for 40 minutes as we

:41:45. > :41:48.were told, or 40 minutes as we were then told, he spoke for an hour and

:41:49. > :41:55.he is getting a standing ovation as he waves back to the crowd promising

:41:56. > :41:58.what he called a socialism for the 21st-century. He began by saying the

:41:59. > :42:02.new Shadow Cabinet members that come in when so many of the older ones

:42:03. > :42:05.have resigned, they are the future, he said. He wanted progressive

:42:06. > :42:08.change from the bottom-up. He said the Tories were merely the party of

:42:09. > :42:14.the privileged few. He saw his leadership of the Labour

:42:15. > :42:20.Party and those like-minded around him as part of the trend of the

:42:21. > :42:28.radical left in Europe like Syriza in Greece and put a must in Spain.

:42:29. > :42:34.On policy details which were high in aspiration if low on detail. He

:42:35. > :42:39.wanted 500,000 more council houses. The renationalising of the railways.

:42:40. > :42:42.He said his ten point programme that he had for the party leadership

:42:43. > :42:48.battle on would become the basis of party policy for the next election.

:42:49. > :42:51.And that included the repeal of the Trade Union Act, which of course was

:42:52. > :42:57.the Conservative reform which the last Labour government made very few

:42:58. > :43:01.changes to. He offered a new deal for business that would be

:43:02. > :43:04.multi-billion pound public investment in infrastructure, but he

:43:05. > :43:08.was going to raise their corporation tax, the tax on their profits, to

:43:09. > :43:13.pay for various educational measures. He promised that

:43:14. > :43:18.educational and national education as well. He concentrated on

:43:19. > :43:23.migration, tackling the consequences of immigration and extra support for

:43:24. > :43:27.areas of high immigration. There was nothing, as had been briefed before,

:43:28. > :43:32.about numbers and what controls there would be in place. He did say

:43:33. > :43:36.there was an electoral mountain to climb but if they could capture the

:43:37. > :43:44.support of middle and lower income voters then they would climb that

:43:45. > :43:49.mountain. Norman Smith, the BBC's political editor, is with me.

:43:50. > :43:53.Norman, what did you make of that Kozak if I'm glad I thought it was a

:43:54. > :43:57.missed opportunity in a funny way because at the end of the speeches.

:43:58. > :44:01.We're just hearing the red flag in the background, they are singing it,

:44:02. > :44:08.just so our viewers understand. As a journalist you want to have a

:44:09. > :44:14.story to tell. I'm struggling to say what it was Mr Corbyn wanted to say.

:44:15. > :44:23.There was a message to the broader country. If there was a top line

:44:24. > :44:27.from it there was the appeal to unity, the biggest cheer he got was

:44:28. > :44:31.the line appealing for an end to trench warfare, divided parties

:44:32. > :44:35.don't win elections. But a lot of it felt to me a bit of a comfort

:44:36. > :44:39.blanket for his party, going through policies that yes, his party

:44:40. > :44:42.absolutely loves, getting rid of zero-hours contracts, nationalising

:44:43. > :44:46.railways, in national investment bank. All of that sort of stuff goes

:44:47. > :44:58.down very well with his party. But if unity was to be a central message

:44:59. > :45:01.I think he needed to do more. I think there was a slight element at

:45:02. > :45:03.the beginning of his speech, and you picked it out when he lauded those

:45:04. > :45:05.who had gone into the Shadow Cabinet, and he said very

:45:06. > :45:08.deliberately, they are the future. In other words, all of you big

:45:09. > :45:11.Labour beasts from the past who have been given so much grief, forget it,

:45:12. > :45:14.you are not the future. That's not a message to bring people together. So

:45:15. > :45:18.it will go down terrifically well. Performance wise, actually, he has

:45:19. > :45:23.improved because sometimes he can be a bit of a mumble, a bit in

:45:24. > :45:34.different. He looked more confident. It was a much improved performance

:45:35. > :45:36.on last year, more confident, more vocal, more relaxed as lead and

:45:37. > :45:39.comfortable in his skin as leader. But if you are a voter sitting at

:45:40. > :45:43.home I don't think you take much from some of the very Corbyn -esque

:45:44. > :45:50.lines about stopping arms sales to Saudi Arabia, or peace in Colombia.

:45:51. > :45:55.I just don't think that really grabs people out there. I'm not sure what

:45:56. > :45:59.his offer was to the electorate. So, you know, it will make people feel

:46:00. > :46:06.good. Whether it actually gets any traction out with this conference

:46:07. > :46:09.chamber I'm not sure. As we move from country-macro to Jerusalem you

:46:10. > :46:19.might hear in the background, Rachel Shabi, what is your take? I agree it

:46:20. > :46:22.was a much more confident, capable performance we have seen a step

:46:23. > :46:31.change in the way Corbyn comes across. In terms of narrative arc

:46:32. > :46:37.there definitely was one. What Corbyn was doing over an hour, was

:46:38. > :46:43.it? It was an hour, maybe a few seconds short. It was very carefully

:46:44. > :46:47.and slowly, steadily building an ark whereby the Conservative government

:46:48. > :46:52.is old, it's out of touch, it's privileged, its elite, it doesn't

:46:53. > :46:57.have the capability to tackle the very urgent needs of the country. So

:46:58. > :47:01.he set up the Tory party as being out of date, out of touch,

:47:02. > :47:04.ill-equipped and constantly letting the country down. Meanwhile, all the

:47:05. > :47:10.while building up a narrative of the Labour Party as being modern,

:47:11. > :47:16.forward-looking, progressive, wants to invest, wants to innovate. He

:47:17. > :47:20.spoke about a patriotism that comes from a Britain that innovates, that

:47:21. > :47:23.builds things, that designs things, that makes thinks. He spoke about

:47:24. > :47:31.investing in that. He drew people together, I think, within a sort of

:47:32. > :47:34.shared narrative that is, we can find solutions, we are struggling at

:47:35. > :47:38.the moment but we can find solutions and we do it by investing and

:47:39. > :47:41.innovating and looking forward. These are all things the

:47:42. > :47:46.Conservative government cannot and does not know how to do.

:47:47. > :47:52.That maybe the game or the aim because Neil Kinnock tried to do

:47:53. > :47:56.that with the Tories in 1990 and when they changed leaders from

:47:57. > :47:59.Thatcher to Major, the public kind of thought, it is like a new

:48:00. > :48:03.Government and in some ways the polls suggest the public also think

:48:04. > :48:07.that with the demise of Mr Cameron and his set, this is a new

:48:08. > :48:10.Government too. Yes, I thought there was a narrative he could have

:48:11. > :48:15.grasped there, but I don't think he did and he kind of touched on it

:48:16. > :48:22.lightly which was this idea we are in a new era, a different politics,

:48:23. > :48:25.the old model is broken, which he genuinely believes and it was done

:48:26. > :48:29.in a paragraph and I think you could build a story around this. This is a

:48:30. > :48:35.new era, I represent a different way of doing things. I felt it got lost

:48:36. > :48:39.in what almost became a list of policy statements which we already

:48:40. > :48:43.knew. The new policy, I counted two, slash three, one was the idea of

:48:44. > :48:47.allowing councils to borrow to build council house, fine, very worthy,

:48:48. > :48:51.but probably technocratic and dull for most viewers. There was an

:48:52. > :48:55.announcement I think on a pupil premium, an arts pupil premium which

:48:56. > :48:59.again sounded sort of slightly under powered. It didn't seem to me there

:49:00. > :49:03.was an offer to the British people in policy and then if you are not

:49:04. > :49:07.going to do that, you have to impart a vision and I don't think he gave

:49:08. > :49:12.that vision. I think if he had managed to grip this idea we're in a

:49:13. > :49:14.different world, things are different and I represent that,

:49:15. > :49:21.there was a potential to develop that story, but I don't think he got

:49:22. > :49:27.there. Halfs in it for the disillusioned PLP? I think again, it

:49:28. > :49:31.was actually quite deliberate and quite clever of Corbyn, he didn't

:49:32. > :49:37.really attack, he didn't do any attacking. He didn't talk about

:49:38. > :49:42.unity much either. But he did try and unify the party along the lines

:49:43. > :49:46.of this common message, this common narrative, this new era, new

:49:47. > :49:50.solutions for a crisis. It is interesting that you mention

:49:51. > :49:53.housing. Housing is of course one of the biggest issues, most people will

:49:54. > :49:57.be feeling the effects of a housing crisis. Most people in the country

:49:58. > :50:01.were feeling that and for him to signal that is a really big deal,

:50:02. > :50:05.but he did signal other policies like investment in innovation, he

:50:06. > :50:12.talked about raising corporation tax specifically to pay for education.

:50:13. > :50:15.So he signalled the beginning of or the return of Education Maintenance

:50:16. > :50:20.Allowance which is a really big deal. We're going to move on. We

:50:21. > :50:24.have got to let Norman go, because he has 53 other outlets to service

:50:25. > :50:30.between now and later this evening. Norman, thank you for being with us.

:50:31. > :50:38.We want to find out, you heard how two of the journalists felt about

:50:39. > :50:46.the speech, how how did it go down with a few of the party members.

:50:47. > :50:50.Andrew Fleming is outside the conference hall. Hello, we're live

:50:51. > :50:53.on the BBC, what did you think of the speech? Absolutely brilliant.

:50:54. > :50:58.Inspiring. We're going to win the next election. Butterflies in the

:50:59. > :51:02.stomach? Absolutely, didn't it you? No comment scham What did you think

:51:03. > :51:06.of the speech? Very good speech. It was amazing. What do you think the

:51:07. > :51:10.theme was? Was there a message or a storyline that he was talking about?

:51:11. > :51:14.I think it was a fairer society. Somebody who works in the NHS, we

:51:15. > :51:17.see the inequality, we see the need for reinvestment and he says the

:51:18. > :51:21.right things and the people responded to that very positively.

:51:22. > :51:26.So keep the fingers crossed, yes. Thank you very much. Hello there,

:51:27. > :51:30.you're live on the BBC, what did you think of the speech? It was very

:51:31. > :51:35.good. It covered loads of things that everybody is really feeling

:51:36. > :51:41.passionate and I'm one of the many thousands that came back to the

:51:42. > :51:49.Labour Party. What did you think of the speech? He has given us a clear

:51:50. > :51:54.platform to go out and fight for this country. I I think Jeremy st

:51:55. > :51:58.going forward and we're addressing the concerns and the party and I

:51:59. > :52:04.think we can rebuild and build a Britain that we want to see. Who was

:52:05. > :52:10.inspired by the speech? No. Not at all. Very disappointed. What was the

:52:11. > :52:14.problem? There was a lot of talking about what is problematic and there

:52:15. > :52:18.was a lot of saying great, why we should change that and I'm waiting

:52:19. > :52:25.to hear how we're going to change that. We're going to change it. He

:52:26. > :52:31.talked about the changes in, to the companies that are going to make a

:52:32. > :52:35.contribution to improve education. He talked about we're going to be

:52:36. > :52:38.more welcoming of people coming into this country. He talked about

:52:39. > :52:45.building more houses. He talked about a bank that is going to invest

:52:46. > :52:49.in this country. He is talking all the practical things. We're going to

:52:50. > :52:52.get out there, I hope, you as well, and we're going to persuade people

:52:53. > :52:58.that what he said is absolutely right. It is about the needs of the

:52:59. > :53:03.many, not the few, it is not the Tories who are who are just

:53:04. > :53:08.interested in a few. We will let you carry on that discussion later on.

:53:09. > :53:12.Who thought Jeremy Corbyn's speaking style has improved?

:53:13. > :53:15.Do you think Jeremy Corbyn's speaking style has improved? Yes,

:53:16. > :53:19.very good. That's all from the delegates here

:53:20. > :53:26.on the conference floor where you can buy a copy of Jeremy Corbyn's

:53:27. > :53:31.speech if you really want a keepsake. Back to you.

:53:32. > :53:38.STUDIO: That was our Adam there, not quite in the spirit of unity. They

:53:39. > :53:42.are only walking out and after 30 seconds they are arguing amongst

:53:43. > :53:46.themselves, but it was interesting. Rachel, housing, you mentioned

:53:47. > :53:51.rightly, it is one of, I think, the undercovered, but huge policy issues

:53:52. > :53:57.that faces, but I have covered manifestos going on from the Labour

:53:58. > :54:02.one in 1997 through to the Tory one in 2010 and the Tory one again in

:54:03. > :54:06.2015 all promising much more housing and it hardly ever happens. They

:54:07. > :54:09.seem to run up against planning constraints, local council

:54:10. > :54:14.constraints and so on, I'm not quite sure if anybody yet knows how to

:54:15. > :54:17.break the log jam on this? I moon, I do think that this is something that

:54:18. > :54:21.Jeremy Corbyn really believes in. I remember interviewing him a few

:54:22. > :54:24.months ago and asked him what the most important thing in terms of

:54:25. > :54:31.domestic policy was and howst housing was number one. And rightly

:54:32. > :54:35.because it does affect, we all know how big an impact it has had on our

:54:36. > :54:40.society. How short we are of housing? How short we are of housing

:54:41. > :54:44.stock. I think there is a reason why this has become at the fore front of

:54:45. > :54:49.Labour Party policy. I guess the issue is how do you deliver? You

:54:50. > :54:53.build. That's true, but he has got two problems, one is getting

:54:54. > :54:57.planning per Marks because councils are reluctant to release land, is he

:54:58. > :55:00.going to overrule them from Whitehall which would fly in the

:55:01. > :55:03.face of a lot of the rhetoric we heard this week and secondly, the

:55:04. > :55:07.biggest demand for houses tends to be in areas where there are Tory

:55:08. > :55:11.councils and that's another thing he has got toe overcome? Yeah, but I

:55:12. > :55:15.think the most important thing to overcome is the lack of willing to

:55:16. > :55:18.do it and that's what the Tory Government and the coalition

:55:19. > :55:22.Government before it demonstrated. There was no interest in

:55:23. > :55:27.replenishing the social housing stock and there was no interest in

:55:28. > :55:31.providing more housing. There was a complete lack of capacity to

:55:32. > :55:35.understand how much of a problem it was causing for people both renting

:55:36. > :55:40.and not able to buy. So I think actually the biggest obstacle is the

:55:41. > :55:43.desire to do so. Would you agree with him, would you

:55:44. > :55:52.place what he has done to the Labour Party and the forces he represents

:55:53. > :55:56.in the Labour Party there with the party in Spain and Greece which has

:55:57. > :56:02.challenged the traditional Socialist Party? Was I right in thinking he

:56:03. > :56:05.was saying we've channelled their radicalism and reinvented the Labour

:56:06. > :56:09.Party rather than done it from outside? Yes, he did talk about

:56:10. > :56:14.that. He spoke about a sort of 21st century socialism. So he made it

:56:15. > :56:18.very clear that this isn't an old-style, this isn't going

:56:19. > :56:22.backwards, this is very much a modern socialism for a modern

:56:23. > :56:28.society facing modern crisis and those parties that you spoke about,

:56:29. > :56:32.across Europe, came about because of the same sort of economic and social

:56:33. > :56:41.crisises that we're seeing across Europe. In the UK that has happened

:56:42. > :56:45.within an existing party. Primarily, I think, because the party system

:56:46. > :56:49.cannot accommodate any other manifestation. We have only got a

:56:50. > :56:53.couple of minutes to go. Len McCluskey joined us. Good to see

:56:54. > :56:58.you. Which speech did you prefer, Tom Watson's or Jeremy Corbyn's?

:56:59. > :57:01.Jeremy Corbyn's. Tom's speech was about yesteryear's politics. I think

:57:02. > :57:05.what we have seen today was a leader. Somebody who spelt out a

:57:06. > :57:09.vision and a vision that is desperately needed in our country

:57:10. > :57:13.and that call for unity and what Labour can achieve when we are

:57:14. > :57:19.together I think was very powerful and very inspiring. Where did your

:57:20. > :57:27.attack on Tom Watson's speech fit into the call for unity What attack.

:57:28. > :57:32.A critique, an opinion which I said that I thought Tom was going back to

:57:33. > :57:37.the third way of playerism. That was for a different era and I said that

:57:38. > :57:43.really is not a vision anymore. So, of course, it is about Jeremy asked

:57:44. > :57:46.us to wipe the slate clean and perhaps unite, perhaps I need to be

:57:47. > :57:51.careful about my rhetoric as well, Andrew. Well, don't we all at times?

:57:52. > :57:55.Do you think the Parliamentary Labour Party needs to change to

:57:56. > :58:02.reflect more the kind of Labour Party that Mr Corbyn was outlining

:58:03. > :58:05.in his speech today? I think that's a great question and when you are a

:58:06. > :58:10.representative of a party, you have to understand if the party is

:58:11. > :58:14.changing and I'm sure that the vast majority of the PLP will recognise

:58:15. > :58:18.that the party as changed and there is a vision and a commitment there

:58:19. > :58:21.and I think they'll come back to support the leader and effectively

:58:22. > :58:26.support the membership that put them there. We almost have to go, but

:58:27. > :58:30.you're up for re-election soonment are you running again Oh, a long

:58:31. > :58:35.time yet. A long time. Are you going to run again? I will let you know

:58:36. > :58:39.when I decide. Go on, we need a story. My executive and members will

:58:40. > :58:45.know first. Should he run again? I think that's between him and his

:58:46. > :58:50.conscience. It is between him and his members! His members as well.

:58:51. > :58:54.Len McCluskey, I'm sorry it was so rushed. He should have cut down his

:58:55. > :58:59.speech and we would have had more time to talk! Come back and see us.

:59:00. > :59:04.It is always a pleasure. That's from the Labour Party conference in

:59:05. > :59:08.Liverpool. It finished with Mr Corbyn's speech calling for a

:59:09. > :59:12.socialism suited to the 21st century. Jo will be back with more

:59:13. > :59:17.Daily Politics at midday on BBC Two and I'll be back on BBC One tomorrow

:59:18. > :59:28.night after Question Time when I have no idea who our guests will be!

:59:29. > :59:29.But maybe Mr Portillo will have got off his train if not his trolley.

:59:30. > :59:45.Bye-bye. There were two areas of fingerprints

:59:46. > :59:47.on the carrier bag.