12/10/2016

:00:36. > :00:38.Morning folks - welcome to the Daily Politics.

:00:39. > :00:41.The people have spoken but what kind of parliamentary scrutiny should

:00:42. > :00:51.Should the right of EU citizens to continue to live in the UK

:00:52. > :00:55.after we leave be a bargaining chip in Brexit negotiations or should

:00:56. > :00:57.the British Government say that they are welcome

:00:58. > :01:01.And they're back - after a three-week break -

:01:02. > :01:03.Theresa May will face Jeremy Corbyn at PMQs.

:01:04. > :01:14.And they are great at soaking up countless pints of lager

:01:15. > :01:18.but could the trusty kebab also be a health food?

:01:19. > :01:25.I wouldn't know! Certainly doesn't look it!

:01:26. > :01:28.CHUCKLES All that in the next 90 minutes

:01:29. > :01:31.of the very finest public And with me for the duration today

:01:32. > :01:35.two pictures of health who I'm sure have never touched a kebab -

:01:36. > :01:38.nor downed countless pints of lager - the Agriculture Minister,

:01:39. > :01:41.George Eustice and - recently returned to

:01:42. > :01:47.Jeremy Corbyn's front bench - the Shadow Work and Pensions

:01:48. > :01:50.Minister, Jack Dromey. Welcome to you both. Morning.

:01:51. > :01:56.Morning. Now - Labour has posed

:01:57. > :01:59.170 Brexit questions - one for every day until Theresa

:02:00. > :02:01.May's deadline for triggering Article 50 - that cover everything

:02:02. > :02:04.from the economy to immigration, They've also tabled a Commons motion

:02:05. > :02:11.- which will be the first set piece Commons debate on Brexit -

:02:12. > :02:13.calling for proper Parliamentary Labour's motion calls for a "full

:02:14. > :02:21.and transparent debate on the Government's plan for leaving

:02:22. > :02:23.the EU" and "proper scrutiny" in Parliament before

:02:24. > :02:31.Article 50 is triggered. The Government usually vote down

:02:32. > :02:33.opposition motions like this. But instead they have tabled

:02:34. > :02:36.an amendment adding that parliamentary scrutiny must "respect

:02:37. > :02:38.the decision of the people" and not undermine the Government's

:02:39. > :02:44.negotiating position. Was this designed to see off

:02:45. > :02:48.a rebellion by Conservative MPs? One Labour source said last night

:02:49. > :02:51.that the Government "didn't have the votes" to defeat

:02:52. > :02:55.the opposition motion. The Government only has a slender

:02:56. > :02:59.majority in the House of Commons, winning a majority of 12 at the last

:03:00. > :03:02.General Election. In practice Theresa May has

:03:03. > :03:08.a working majority of 16 - that's because the four Sinn Fein

:03:09. > :03:11.MPs don't take up their seats. But 184 of her Conservative MPs

:03:12. > :03:13.campaigned for Remain. And roughly three quarters

:03:14. > :03:16.of all MPs were in favour of staying 475 declared for Remain

:03:17. > :03:28.and 158 for Leave. Could some seek to defy

:03:29. > :03:31.the will of the Government - and arguably the electorate -

:03:32. > :03:44.by voting down legislation designed Thanks, Joker. George Eustice and

:03:45. > :03:48.Jack Dromey are in the studio and we are joined by Conservative MP

:03:49. > :03:51.Stephen Phillips in the Central Lobby, who campaigned for Brexit but

:03:52. > :03:58.now calls for more Parliamentary scrutiny of the government's plans.

:03:59. > :04:04.Ucog for a debate before Article 50 is triggered. What do you want MPs

:04:05. > :04:07.to agree before the negotiations? -- you called. The government has a

:04:08. > :04:11.clear mandate from the British people to take the United Kingdom

:04:12. > :04:15.out of the European Union. What the government doesn't have is a mandate

:04:16. > :04:19.to the particular form Brexit will take so it needs to come to this

:04:20. > :04:22.place, which is actually where the sovereignty of this nation is

:04:23. > :04:27.invested and discuss and debate with those who are here on behalf of

:04:28. > :04:30.their constituents precisely what form they think Brexit should take.

:04:31. > :04:33.There is no doubt Brexit will happen, that's what the Prime

:04:34. > :04:37.Minister has said and what the majority of British people voted for

:04:38. > :04:43.Gore albeit by a slim majority. But the question is, what form will

:04:44. > :04:46.Brexit take? The government must come here and ask Parliament. So you

:04:47. > :04:51.want Parliament to decide what form Brexit should take?

:04:52. > :04:54.The government needs to lay a substantive motion before the House

:04:55. > :04:59.of Commons saying these are the broad thrusts of what we are seeking

:05:00. > :05:02.to achieve in the negotiations. We want, for example, to retain

:05:03. > :05:05.membership of the single European market, we want to regain control

:05:06. > :05:09.over our own borders which was something that was so important to

:05:10. > :05:13.so many people. This is what we want to achieve. Do you as Parliament

:05:14. > :05:17.agree that is the former Brexit which the country once and are we

:05:18. > :05:20.moving in the right direction? How do you retain membership of the

:05:21. > :05:25.Single Market and gain control over your own borders? Those two things

:05:26. > :05:29.are completely contrary. I don't agree, we are the fifth largest

:05:30. > :05:35.economy in the world, we speak English, we are in the middle of the

:05:36. > :05:39.world in terms of time zones, we are one of the permanent members of the

:05:40. > :05:42.Security Council. We know all of that. Can you name me one country

:05:43. > :05:48.that is a member of the Single Market that has control over its

:05:49. > :05:52.borders? I cannot, Andrew but we are saying we are in a position where we

:05:53. > :05:55.are in a position where we can negotiate a bespoke deal for the

:05:56. > :05:58.British people and that's the Government's position and what

:05:59. > :06:01.Parliament needs to do is have some say in what that bespoke deal should

:06:02. > :06:05.be about and that is all this is about at the moment, the sovereignty

:06:06. > :06:09.of this institution. What would happen if Parliament voted against

:06:10. > :06:13.triggering Article 50? I don't see how Parliament can vote against

:06:14. > :06:34.triggering Article 50. Parliament is here to serve the will of the people

:06:35. > :06:38.and the will of the British people is clear, majority of them wanted to

:06:39. > :06:40.leave the European Union. What is not clear is what the British people

:06:41. > :06:43.wanted in terms of the Brexit that the Government will negotiate and

:06:44. > :06:45.that's why the government has to come here to the sovereign body and

:06:46. > :06:47.ask parliamentarians on behalf of their constituents what form our

:06:48. > :06:49.future relationship with the European Union should take.

:06:50. > :06:51.Explained to me, the Government comes forward with the broad

:06:52. > :06:53.outlines of its negotiating position and the Commons doesn't like them

:06:54. > :06:55.and votes against them. What happens next? May be the Government must

:06:56. > :06:58.think again and seek a mandate direct from the British people to

:06:59. > :07:02.approve its position. They have a mandate called the referendum. The

:07:03. > :07:05.referendum gives the Government mandate to take the United Kingdom

:07:06. > :07:12.out of the European Union but does not give any mandate to decide what

:07:13. > :07:15.those terms are without coming to Parliament. The campaign to leave

:07:16. > :07:18.was clear on a number of things. You can agree or disagree on them but

:07:19. > :07:21.the campaign was clear they wanted to leave because they didn't want

:07:22. > :07:29.the European Court of Justice to apply anymore to us. They wanted

:07:30. > :07:33.full control of our borders. They wanted freedom to make free trade

:07:34. > :07:39.deals as an individual nation, not part of the EU Customs union. That

:07:40. > :07:42.in itself sets the parameters for what the negotiating position will

:07:43. > :07:48.be if the government is to live up to what the people voted for on June

:07:49. > :07:51.the 23rd. You started that sentence with the campaign to leave wanted

:07:52. > :07:55.these things. Not everybody was a campaign am a member of the campaign

:07:56. > :07:58.to leave, I wasn't I didn't agree with a lot of what they said and I

:07:59. > :08:02.thought the campaign itself was divisive, xenophobic and full of

:08:03. > :08:06.untruths but there are many people in this country who voted for a

:08:07. > :08:09.variety of reasons. They didn't necessarily vote for the reasons

:08:10. > :08:14.that the official Leave campaign was advancing. What bit of the three

:08:15. > :08:18.things I've just given you did the people vote Democratic to leave not

:08:19. > :08:24.vote for? I will tell you what I voted for. I'm asking about the

:08:25. > :08:28.people. They did not vote to get out of the European Court of Justice,

:08:29. > :08:34.for our own free-trade deals and vote for the end of free movement of

:08:35. > :08:37.people? I don't know. Unless you've been and asked the 17.2 million

:08:38. > :08:43.people what their views were and why they voted as they did you don't

:08:44. > :08:47.know the answer to that question. I do, the exit polling is quite clear

:08:48. > :08:50.on this. A large number of people voted for the same reason I do, you

:08:51. > :08:53.should be about to throw out of office the people who make the rules

:08:54. > :08:57.by which you live your life, in other words about sovereignty.

:08:58. > :09:00.That's why I voted as I did and I didn't vote to remove the tyranny of

:09:01. > :09:03.the European Commission and restore the sovereignty of this place for

:09:04. > :09:16.the government then to ignore that sovereignty and not come and ask

:09:17. > :09:18.members of Parliament what they think about this. Stephen Phillips,

:09:19. > :09:21.thank you for joining us. George Eustice, how many of your colleagues

:09:22. > :09:23.feel the same way? Not many and I think Stephen is overreacting

:09:24. > :09:26.because the truth is Parliament will debate this issue ad infinitum for

:09:27. > :09:28.the next six months. We have two debates today, one on the European

:09:29. > :09:31.medical agency, we have one on the effect of tourism, I'm facing Defra

:09:32. > :09:34.questions tomorrow. But will it get a vote on the shape of our

:09:35. > :09:40.negotiating position? Will it get to vote on the broad parameters of our

:09:41. > :09:44.negotiating position? The point is there will be a role for Parliament

:09:45. > :09:48.to have lots of debates. You have said that but my question was

:09:49. > :09:53.specific. Will Parliament have a role in voting for the broad

:09:54. > :09:56.parameters of the Government's negotiating position. We were when

:09:57. > :09:59.we have the great repeal bill, a huge bill that will go through

:10:00. > :10:04.Parliament and they will be endless debate on every single line of that

:10:05. > :10:09.bill. That's not about our negotiating position, that is to get

:10:10. > :10:13.us ready in British law for when we leave. It doesn't tell us anything

:10:14. > :10:17.about our negotiating position. This is a huge negotiation and the truth

:10:18. > :10:21.is you have to be clear about where the role for the executive lies and

:10:22. > :10:26.I believe the executive needs to be free. We have a cabinet system of

:10:27. > :10:33.government. So they will not get a vote? It is an executive privilege?

:10:34. > :10:37.Trigger Article 50 and the negotiations that come there after

:10:38. > :10:39.are an issue for the executive but there will be Parliamentary

:10:40. > :10:43.scrutiny. I understand that but you've said they will not get a

:10:44. > :10:47.vote. Will they get a vote to approve what the Brexit deal is?

:10:48. > :10:50.They will because we have the great repeal Bill that brings these things

:10:51. > :10:54.through. The great repeal Bill does not cover the terms of our

:10:55. > :10:57.departure. It will not tell us what our relationship is with the Single

:10:58. > :11:01.Market all with the European Court of Justice and it won't tell us what

:11:02. > :11:06.the control of our borders is or isn't. That's not what the repeal

:11:07. > :11:10.bill is about, that is what Brexit is about. Will they get a vote on

:11:11. > :11:13.the deal if and when it is done? Parliament will decide what it wants

:11:14. > :11:17.to debate and the terms of the motion to bring forward. Is it

:11:18. > :11:22.government policy to give them a vote on that or not? We have a

:11:23. > :11:29.debate taking place this afternoon. Debate, debate. They will be a vote

:11:30. > :11:32.on that. Willie Bain executive to carry out this negotiation. What

:11:33. > :11:37.people are missing is once we have left the union and re-established

:11:38. > :11:42.control here people will be able to change things in future. They will

:11:43. > :11:46.not be able to change the terms of our Brexit. They will because this

:11:47. > :11:50.will not be set in stone. They will do a deal and then rip it up? If the

:11:51. > :11:53.Labour Party decided they wanted a different approach to immigration in

:11:54. > :11:56.future and have a more liberal approach and more freedom of

:11:57. > :12:01.movement it would be for them to put that in the manifesto and put it to

:12:02. > :12:07.the British people. That is control of your laws, that is the crucial

:12:08. > :12:14.thing. Jack Dromey, these 170 questions, good luck, I've asked

:12:15. > :12:17.about ten. And had no answers. 170. If the Government were to answer

:12:18. > :12:21.them in any kind of detail we would be telling the European Union are

:12:22. > :12:25.complete negotiating position. Why would you do that? There are some

:12:26. > :12:29.key questions that require an answer. The people of Britain have

:12:30. > :12:33.spoken and we have to respect their decision. I may regret that

:12:34. > :12:37.personally, I may agree with Stephen that it was a disreputable and

:12:38. > :12:40.dishonest Leave campaign but they have spoken. What we need is a

:12:41. > :12:47.Brexit for working people and not a Brexit at breakneck speed driven by

:12:48. > :12:53.the internal divisions within the Conservative Party that betrays the

:12:54. > :12:58.British economy, British workers. My question was about your 170

:12:59. > :13:03.questions. You expect the Government to answer 170 so why don't you

:13:04. > :13:07.answer might one, which is if they answered all 170 they might as well

:13:08. > :13:12.just pass all of the negotiating papers to the European Union? Let's

:13:13. > :13:17.take two practical examples. First of all, it has to be an objective

:13:18. > :13:21.that we must secure access to the Single Market. I've got the Jaguar

:13:22. > :13:24.plant in my constituency, doubled in size in the last six years,

:13:25. > :13:28.transform the lives of thousands of workers. There is deep concern in

:13:29. > :13:32.the automotive sector about what happens next, and therefore in

:13:33. > :13:36.global companies that make long-term decisions about investment they need

:13:37. > :13:42.to be confident that we will be in the Single Market. I understand that

:13:43. > :13:45.but the whole world has access to the Single Market. Even North Korea

:13:46. > :13:51.has access. The question is on what terms. Do you think it is

:13:52. > :13:54.Parliament's job to determine for government what these terms should

:13:55. > :13:58.be? I think it's absolutely right that the people of Britain having

:13:59. > :14:01.spoken that we hold the Government to account so that the British

:14:02. > :14:04.national interest is then safeguarded in what will be

:14:05. > :14:09.difficult negotiations. Of course. On the issue of access to the Single

:14:10. > :14:11.Market it is key that we don't have tariffs erected in circumstances

:14:12. > :14:16.where in excess of half of the cars that we produce in this country are

:14:17. > :14:20.exported into the European Union. Let me give you another example.

:14:21. > :14:27.Workers' rights. I do not believe the warm words from Conservative

:14:28. > :14:32.ministers who say workers' rights are safe for the future and that too

:14:33. > :14:35.we want clear beyond any doubt and it's right that Parliament calls the

:14:36. > :14:40.government to account. Keir Starmer has done a great job on that. When

:14:41. > :14:43.you have control of your own legislation on workers' rights you

:14:44. > :14:48.can do what you like in future, you have not got to go cap in hand to

:14:49. > :14:52.the EU, you can just put it in your manifesto. On that point, if I draw

:14:53. > :14:55.upon my own history, I was the one who took the case of the Eastbourne

:14:56. > :15:01.this meant to be European Court of Justice to get TUPE extended to

:15:02. > :15:04.cover the public sector because your government, Mrs Thatcher's

:15:05. > :15:09.government, denied coverage for ten years. In future you just need to

:15:10. > :15:15.form a majority government and do it. Let me ask you this, Jack

:15:16. > :15:19.Dromey. Izzard Labour's policy, or do we know what Labour's policy is,

:15:20. > :15:26.to remain a member of the Single Market? -- is it Labour's policy. We

:15:27. > :15:31.need the negotiation about the exact mechanisms. Is it a policy that we

:15:32. > :15:34.should remain a member of the Single Market? We must remain a member of

:15:35. > :15:38.the Single Market so that we have access to the Single Market because

:15:39. > :15:42.that's in the best interests of British employers and workers. If we

:15:43. > :15:46.are a member of the Single Market we are subject to the jurisdiction of

:15:47. > :15:49.the European court command as the Tory MP who couldn't answer either,

:15:50. > :15:54.every member of the Single Market is subject to freedom of movement and

:15:55. > :15:56.the three movements. So essentially we are still a member of the

:15:57. > :16:06.European Union. We'll leave the European Union, the

:16:07. > :16:11.question is upon what terms. It has free movement. It has free movement.

:16:12. > :16:15.It is a member of the single market and has free movement, and although

:16:16. > :16:19.it has a separate court, the court it is subject, to its case study is

:16:20. > :16:24.entirely determined by the ECJ. Let's take that very difficult issue

:16:25. > :16:29.and it is a difficult issue. Two things collide. On the one hand the

:16:30. > :16:33.need of the British economy, the automotive, care sector, National

:16:34. > :16:36.Health Service. The revelations yesterday that the NHS in London

:16:37. > :16:40.would be in crisis without migrant workers but we cannot ignore the

:16:41. > :16:43.discontent being expressed by millions, let me finish, and

:16:44. > :16:49.therefore, we have to ensure that no-one is left behind in future and

:16:50. > :16:53.Kier was right when he said last Sunday - if you ensured in post

:16:54. > :16:58.industrial communities no-one was left behind, you would reduce demand

:16:59. > :17:02.for migrant Labour. Let me check S it the policy of Jeremy Corbyn and

:17:03. > :17:05.John McDonnell, that Britain remains a member of the Single Market The

:17:06. > :17:10.precise terms are to be negotiated. You are either a member or you are

:17:11. > :17:15.not. The precise terms and the title you use are to be negotiated but we

:17:16. > :17:19.must have tariff-free access to the Single Market or that will damage

:17:20. > :17:22.the British economy. You could have that with a free trade agreement.

:17:23. > :17:25.But you wouldn't be a member. Government have to come before

:17:26. > :17:32.Parliament and ultimately a decision made that we can hold the Government

:17:33. > :17:35.to account over, whereby our companies, like Jaguar Land Rover,

:17:36. > :17:38.plan for the future, confident we will have access to the Single

:17:39. > :17:42.Market, tariff-free. I'm still not sure if either the Government or the

:17:43. > :17:46.opposition thinks we should remain a member of the Single Market. We will

:17:47. > :17:52.try to find out. We are running out of time. It is the key distinctions,

:17:53. > :17:58.if the Single Market is the beating heart, it would seem to some people

:17:59. > :18:01.that we haven't left the EU Ultimately, I know Jaguar workers

:18:02. > :18:03.what they will want to know - can they continue secure in their jobs

:18:04. > :18:08.because their employer can export into the continent of Europe.

:18:09. > :18:10.Now, what should happen to EU citizens currently living

:18:11. > :18:14.Should they be able to stay or should that depend

:18:15. > :18:17.on whether the rights of British citizens living in

:18:18. > :18:21.It's a question that Theresa May was asked earlier this week.

:18:22. > :18:23.The relationship will be different in future

:18:24. > :18:24.because we won't be members of the Union

:18:25. > :18:30.but I want the agreement that we come to, to reflect the kind of

:18:31. > :18:33.mature, co-operative relationship that close friends and allies have.

:18:34. > :18:38.As part of that, I expect to be able to guarantee the legal rights of EU

:18:39. > :18:44.nationals already in the UK, so long as the British nationals

:18:45. > :18:48.living in Europe in the countries who are Member States of the EU,

:18:49. > :18:54.We're joined now by Tim Martin who runs the Wetherspoons pub chain

:18:55. > :18:56.and campaigned to leave the EU but is now calling

:18:57. > :18:58.for an unequivocal statement from Government guaranteeing

:18:59. > :19:12.Welcome to the programme. Thank you. Why are you so keen to give up the

:19:13. > :19:15.one key bargaining chip the UK has in these negotiations? Well, I don't

:19:16. > :19:20.think that's the key bargaining chip. The key bargaining chip is

:19:21. > :19:24.that we are a very big economy. We are the number one buyer of

:19:25. > :19:29.champagne in the world. We are a huge buyer of German cars. So the

:19:30. > :19:34.trading relationships are our major chip. But it is also a bargaining

:19:35. > :19:39.chip. Even the UK's most senior UK diplomat and he is a man who knows,

:19:40. > :19:44.he says "Withholding right for EU citizens to stay in the UK, it is

:19:45. > :19:48.one of the few cards we have in the negotiations." Surely he is right on

:19:49. > :19:51.that I do a lot of negotiating every week for 35 years, negotiating with

:19:52. > :19:54.suppliers and other people. I wouldn't like to adopt that

:19:55. > :20:00.approach. I think a better approach for us to adopt is to say the EU

:20:01. > :20:04.citizens here now work very hard, they have done well, they have come

:20:05. > :20:08.here for the best motives and they are good citizens as well as being

:20:09. > :20:14.good workers. So they should be allowed to stay on that basis. We

:20:15. > :20:17.think, as well, that British people abroad should also be allowed to

:20:18. > :20:22.stay but if they are not, we are still going to allow the other ones

:20:23. > :20:25.to stay because it is the right and moral thing to do George would

:20:26. > :20:31.probably disagree. Let's hear what he has to say. Everything Tim Martin

:20:32. > :20:35.has said, do you sign up to? Everything except the last bit as he

:20:36. > :20:39.predicted. Theresa May, as far as she can be clear on what she

:20:40. > :20:43.intends, she wants to guarantee rights here and fully expects to be

:20:44. > :20:47.able to. It is important it is re-Ciproicated. It is a common sense

:20:48. > :20:51.thinking, you have British citizens in other European countries, we want

:20:52. > :21:00.to do the right things, but it should be returned. We have to

:21:01. > :21:04.respect that the European Union gets in a hawkish position, careful about

:21:05. > :21:08.this, and do these things method Klein carefully. Should she be

:21:09. > :21:12.clearer and guarantee 1 #4u7d %, which David Davis was quoted as

:21:13. > :21:17.saying, to EU nationals, that their right to remain will not be put at

:21:18. > :21:22.threat at all? Well, I think she's got, if you look at what she said,

:21:23. > :21:27.she fully expects to be able to, it is what she wants to. I think she's

:21:28. > :21:30.keeping open the option to go through this negotiation. The

:21:31. > :21:35.problem with that, a secondary school, very diverse in my

:21:36. > :21:41.constituency on the Friday after the Thursday, there were several young

:21:42. > :21:45.people, sixth formers, with European Union national backgrounds, who were

:21:46. > :21:48.in tears. Will I, they were saying to the headmaster, be sent home? I

:21:49. > :21:52.have had these questions time and time again that's y Tim, I think you

:21:53. > :21:55.are right, the position - that's why, Tim, the position we should

:21:56. > :21:59.take, it is almost a multicultural stance, let's be clear about this,

:22:00. > :22:04.they will able it stay and we expect the rest of the European Union to

:22:05. > :22:08.follow that example. That's pretty much what she said. I

:22:09. > :22:13.wouldn't assume the UK would be a pushover. If they said we are going

:22:14. > :22:18.to round up - and this is what it boils up to - we are going to round

:22:19. > :22:23.up all the Brits living in the Dordogne. But it has been applied,

:22:24. > :22:26.from Spain, that all the British retirees could be at threat. But

:22:27. > :22:31.again, playing with people's lives as you say. Can we afford as a

:22:32. > :22:34.country to say - well, whatever they do in the European Union, we won't

:22:35. > :22:38.play that game? You are negotiating, I am negotiating this point. We all

:22:39. > :22:44.know that there is no circumstances, under the sun, in which we are going

:22:45. > :22:48.to get a truck and go around and pick up the fantastic Polish workers

:22:49. > :22:53.and take them back, nor are the Spanish. That's the reality. I take

:22:54. > :22:59.your point Theresa May is right to say this should happen but at the

:23:00. > :23:03.end of the day, people are going to stay in both. In a way, why are you

:23:04. > :23:07.surprised by this happening, why would you be surprised that EU

:23:08. > :23:11.citizens could be used as a bore gaining chip. You campaigned for

:23:12. > :23:17.leave, if you were so worried about the fate of some of your workers or

:23:18. > :23:20.EU nationals in general, why did you campaign to leave when they talked

:23:21. > :23:26.about doing this. Well, we are a dome crasscy. I campaigned - a

:23:27. > :23:31.democracy, I campaigned saying I think we should make all our own

:23:32. > :23:33.laws in this country but successful economies need immigration.

:23:34. > :23:38.Singapore, Australia, New Zealand, America, and Britain. I don't like

:23:39. > :23:41.the fact that unelected people in Europe are making decisions on our

:23:42. > :23:47.approximate behalf. In the future we have to decide our own future. -- on

:23:48. > :23:53.our behalf The people who are here now, I haven't got an issue with,

:23:54. > :23:58.barring a couple. Well expectations have been raised, apart from your

:23:59. > :24:03.personal opposition expectations have been raised which includes the

:24:04. > :24:07.state of EU nationals, particularly those who have been here a year or

:24:08. > :24:12.two. I have spoken a lot around the country. I have not met anyone who

:24:13. > :24:15.said - they have got to go home. Who is campaigning. But there might be

:24:16. > :24:21.some nutter somewhere. You acted in good faith. By the way I'm a proud

:24:22. > :24:28.son of immigrants, my dad came from county cork to dig roads and my

:24:29. > :24:33.mother trained as a nurse. Me too. What was disreputable about the

:24:34. > :24:36.campaign, people like Boris Johnson, talking about unless we leave,

:24:37. > :24:44.Turkey will come. We have had a rise in race crime. That's wrong, they

:24:45. > :24:50.acted disreputably. In terms of being divisive. Amber Rudd's speech,

:24:51. > :24:55.which was picked up and reported on and then the Home Office backtracked

:24:56. > :25:00.on the idea of a register of foreign workers, wanting to see lists of the

:25:01. > :25:04.number of their employees, who were EU nationals or from abroad. Was

:25:05. > :25:08.that wrong to even raise that issue of a register? I think it was

:25:09. > :25:13.overinterpreted and exaggerated. All that Amber Rudd was saying s if we

:25:14. > :25:17.want to do, what we do want to do, which is to try to fill the skills

:25:18. > :25:20.gaps more with people who live in the country, our own domestic

:25:21. > :25:23.workforce, we need a better understanding of the particular

:25:24. > :25:28.sectors and companies where they are heavily reliant on it. Why was there

:25:29. > :25:34.a backtrack on it? Why is it not going to be published? She was just

:25:35. > :25:39.saying, it was floated a as an idea, maybe in a consultation, that they

:25:40. > :25:41.may ask companies to provide this information to help inform

:25:42. > :25:45.Government thinking, nothing more of that. George raises the point of

:25:46. > :25:50.British skills and British works gaps what steps are you making to

:25:51. > :25:56.employ more British workers? We don't have to take any steps. I

:25:57. > :26:00.surveyed 100 most recently opened pushing they were 95% born in the UK

:26:01. > :26:06.it would be less in Rondon. British workers are great. They work very

:26:07. > :26:12.hard. They are completely one-to-one with foreign workers. So we have

:26:13. > :26:17.award-winning training schemes, etc. If we don't do, that we won't have a

:26:18. > :26:20.good business. Are you worried about what might happen to immigrant

:26:21. > :26:25.labour in your business if it is curtailed? I'm worried about the

:26:26. > :26:30.future of the UK. I think we need a gradually rising population, as time

:26:31. > :26:33.goes by, controlling our own borders but aproving numbers of immigrants

:26:34. > :26:35.for jobs we need and they've been mentioned here. Tim Martin, thank

:26:36. > :26:39.you. Now, word reaches us

:26:40. > :26:41.here at The Daily Politics There's apparently been a rise

:26:42. > :26:44.in sightings of creepy Yes, some people obviously think

:26:45. > :26:48.it's funny to dress up in scary clown costumes in order to jump out

:26:49. > :27:00.and terrify unsuspecting Don't worry, I'll speak to Michael

:27:01. > :27:04.Portillo tomorrow night. It is shocking, however. And obviously an

:27:05. > :27:11.unwelcome development for most people outside of SW 1.

:27:12. > :27:14.But for those of us unfortunate enough to spend a lot

:27:15. > :27:16.of time here in Westminster, clown sightings are nothing new.

:27:17. > :27:19.In fact, I'm told that the area in and around the Palace

:27:20. > :27:22.of Westminster apparently has the highest concentration of clowns

:27:23. > :27:25.Who has done this research? Who would have thung it? I did on the

:27:26. > :27:26.way in. Anyway, if you're a little creeped

:27:27. > :27:30.out by all this clowning around, you probably need to fix yourself

:27:31. > :27:33.a comforting beverage, ideally Yes, but we don't just give these

:27:34. > :27:43.away to any old clown. You need to tell us

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:29:18. > :29:28.just take a look at Big Ben - and that can mean only one thing,

:29:29. > :29:44.Yes, Prime Minister's Yes. Tell us what is happening about

:29:45. > :29:47.Brexit votes, Article 50, Single Market, in, out, shake it all about?

:29:48. > :29:53.Here is an interesting thing. Without mentioning any clowns. I

:29:54. > :29:58.think it is a month since the last Prime Minister's Questions, more or

:29:59. > :30:01.less. Actually in that time, I think that we have seen MPs as they return

:30:02. > :30:05.thinking - you know what, actually we need to really start having a

:30:06. > :30:12.role. We need to start taking a proper look at what is going on. All

:30:13. > :30:15.the signals outside - inside Government are a bit like juggling

:30:16. > :30:18.with knives in the dark. Nobody knows what is going to happen.

:30:19. > :30:22.Nobody knows how this process is going to work. Inside Government

:30:23. > :30:27.there is not agreement oot all on the deal they can seek. There is not

:30:28. > :30:32.a secret plan for Brexit locked up. There never was. If If only we could

:30:33. > :30:35.find the combination. There is disagreement about the plan. You

:30:36. > :30:41.have seen this week, Parliament get the bit between its teeth. I Let's

:30:42. > :30:58.go to PMQs. Coalition government gifted to the

:30:59. > :31:02.urgent care. Bergin imposed a system of double appointments forcing

:31:03. > :31:05.patients to have unnecessary extra consultations before surgery

:31:06. > :31:09.boosting their profits at the expense of the taxpayer and patient

:31:10. > :31:15.safety. Is this acceptable and what is the Prime Minister prepared to do

:31:16. > :31:19.about it? We want to see in the provision of local services the best

:31:20. > :31:23.services possible for local people. The Honourable Lady talks about

:31:24. > :31:29.outsourcing services in the NHS, and I have to say to her the party that

:31:30. > :31:36.I put greater privatisation into the NHS was not this party but her

:31:37. > :31:46.party. Question two, closed question, Mr Michael Fabricant. 12

:31:47. > :31:54.months ago I went to see... LAUGHTER

:31:55. > :31:57.Thank you Mr Speaker. The West Midlands economy is in a positive

:31:58. > :32:03.position at the moment, I'm pleased to say that since 2010 nearly 2000

:32:04. > :32:06.more people are at work and 42,000 new businesses and saw the strength

:32:07. > :32:09.of the economy when I was in Birmingham last week. We are giving

:32:10. > :32:14.the West Midlands new powers with the devolution deal and the election

:32:15. > :32:21.of a mayor and with his business and local experience he would be a good

:32:22. > :32:26.mayor for the West Midlands. On the subject of the NHS 18 months ago my

:32:27. > :32:32.wonderful doctor go Helen Stokes Lampard suggested I have a general

:32:33. > :32:36.well man checkup and it's just as well that I did because the blood

:32:37. > :32:42.test revealed that there could have been and was a problem with my

:32:43. > :32:44.prostate, despite the fact that I was symptom-free. I was immediately

:32:45. > :32:49.referred to the Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Birmingham who were

:32:50. > :32:56.simply wonderful, and after a period of surveillance I had a

:32:57. > :33:01.prostatectomy in June, but hey, I'm now fine.

:33:02. > :33:06.CHEERING But I want to thank the whole team

:33:07. > :33:13.at the Queen Elizabeth including my surgeon Alan Doherty and my

:33:14. > :33:17.excellent prostate nurse who gave me practical advice. In the next ten

:33:18. > :33:22.years there will be a real shortage of specialist prostate and urology

:33:23. > :33:27.nurse is, as many are due for retirement. So, may I ask the Prime

:33:28. > :33:31.Minister, what can the Government do to avert a shortage of these

:33:32. > :33:35.much-needed nurses? Can I say to my honourable friend

:33:36. > :33:43.that the whole house is pleased to see him back in his position as his

:33:44. > :33:48.normal exuberant self in this House. He raises a very serious issue. Can

:33:49. > :33:53.I join him in commending not only those doctors and nurses and other

:33:54. > :33:56.health service staff who treated him for his prostate cancer, but those

:33:57. > :34:02.doctors and nurses who are at bay in and day out ensuring that as we see

:34:03. > :34:06.actually we are having cancer survival rates at a record high. The

:34:07. > :34:10.Government is putting more money into awareness of cancer problems

:34:11. > :34:15.and we will look at the training of nurses. There are 50,000 nurses in

:34:16. > :34:18.training and we will continue to make sure that the special incidents

:34:19. > :34:22.are available to do the work necessary in the health service. --

:34:23. > :34:36.specialisms. Jeremy Corbyn. I I hope the Right Honourable member

:34:37. > :34:40.got the same treatment as everybody gets because we want the same

:34:41. > :34:47.treatment for everybody in our society. Is not controversial, I'm

:34:48. > :34:52.just wishing you well. Is that OK? Sorry to start on such a

:34:53. > :34:56.controversial note, Mr Speaker. I do apologise. At the Conservative Party

:34:57. > :34:59.conference the Prime Minister said she wants Britain to be a country

:35:00. > :35:05.where it doesn't matter where you were born. But the Home Secretary

:35:06. > :35:10.Flagship announcement was to name and shame companies that employ

:35:11. > :35:13.foreign workers. Could the Prime Minister explain why where someone

:35:14. > :35:19.was born clearly does matter to members of her Cabinet?

:35:20. > :35:20.First of all, can I say to the Right Honourable gentleman,

:35:21. > :35:34.congratulations on winning the Labour leadership election.

:35:35. > :35:44.And can I welcome him back to his place in this house as his normal

:35:45. > :35:48.self. Can I say to him that the policy he has just described was

:35:49. > :35:52.never the policy that the Home Secretary announced. There was no

:35:53. > :35:56.naming and shaming, no published list of foreign workers, no

:35:57. > :36:01.published data. What we are going to consult on is whether we should

:36:02. > :36:04.bring ourselves in line with countries like the United States of

:36:05. > :36:08.America, which collect data in order to be able to ensure they are

:36:09. > :36:15.getting the right skills training for workers in their economy. Mr

:36:16. > :36:21.Corbyn. Mr Speaker, I most grateful to the over 3000 people -- 300,000

:36:22. > :36:28.people who voted for me to become the leader of my party.

:36:29. > :36:38.Which, Mr Speaker, is rather more than voted for her to become the

:36:39. > :36:43.leader of her party. She seems to be... She seems to be slightly

:36:44. > :36:49.unaware of what's going on. First, the Home Secretary. First, Mr

:36:50. > :36:53.Speaker, the Home Secretary briefed that companies will be named and

:36:54. > :36:57.shamed, the Education Secretary clarified that they too would only

:36:58. > :37:01.be kept by government, and yesterday No 10 said it was in consultation

:37:02. > :37:05.and the Home Secretary clarified the whole matter by saying it's one of

:37:06. > :37:09.the tools we are going to use forced of this government has no answers,

:37:10. > :37:12.Mr Speaker, just gimmicks and scapegoats. Yesterday we learned

:37:13. > :37:18.that pregnant women will be forced to hand over their passports at NHS

:37:19. > :37:23.hospitals, no ultrasound without photographic ID, heavily pregnant

:37:24. > :37:27.women sent home on icy roads to get a passport. Are these really the

:37:28. > :37:35.actions of a country where it doesn't matter where you were born?

:37:36. > :37:39.Well, I've made absolutely clear about the policy the Home Secretary

:37:40. > :37:43.set out. I would say to the Right Honourable gentleman, he raises

:37:44. > :37:47.issues around the health service. I think it is right that we should say

:37:48. > :37:51.that we ensure that when providing health services to people that they

:37:52. > :37:56.are free at the point of delivery, that they are eligible to have those

:37:57. > :37:59.services. But where there are people in this country who come to this

:38:00. > :38:03.country to use our health service and who should be paying for it,

:38:04. > :38:07.that the health service identifies those people and makes sure that it

:38:08. > :38:12.gets the money from them. I would have thought that would be an

:38:13. > :38:16.uncontroversial view. Of course, emergency care will be provided when

:38:17. > :38:20.necessary absolutely without those questions. But what is important is

:38:21. > :38:23.that we ensure that where people should be paying because they don't

:38:24. > :38:29.have the right to access to free care in the health service, they do.

:38:30. > :38:33.Jeremy Corbyn. Some of her colleagues on the smack leave aside

:38:34. > :38:40.promised us ?350 million extra a week for the NHS. -- the leave

:38:41. > :38:43.aside. She doesn't seem to have answers to the big questions facing

:38:44. > :38:47.Great Britain. On Monday the secretary for Brexit when questioned

:38:48. > :38:50.about the approach to the Single Market access replied, we need hard

:38:51. > :38:55.data about the size of the problem in terms of both money and jobs.

:38:56. > :38:58.They would have been much easier if he had simply asked his colleague,

:38:59. > :39:04.the Chancellor of the Exchequer, because he would have been able to

:39:05. > :39:10.tell him that the Treasury forecast is a 66 billion loss to the economy,

:39:11. > :39:14.7.5% of the GDP. Can the Prime Minister now confirmed that access

:39:15. > :39:19.to the Single Market is a red line for the government, or is it not?

:39:20. > :39:26.Well, the Right Honourable gentleman has asked me this question before.

:39:27. > :39:29.Yes! He says it is a simple question and I will give him the simple

:39:30. > :39:32.answer. What we are going to do is deliver on the vote of the British

:39:33. > :39:36.people to leave the European Union. What we are going to do is be

:39:37. > :39:39.ambitious in our negotiations to negotiate the best deal for the

:39:40. > :39:43.British people and that will include the maximum possible access to the

:39:44. > :39:47.European market for firms to trade with and operate within the European

:39:48. > :39:51.market. But I'm also clear that the vote of the British people said that

:39:52. > :39:55.we should control the movement of people from the EU into the UK and

:39:56. > :39:57.unlike the Right Honourable gentleman we believe we should

:39:58. > :40:03.deliver on what the British people want. Jeremy Corbyn. Someone once

:40:04. > :40:08.said that leaving the Single Market would risk a loss of investors in

:40:09. > :40:12.business and risk going backwards when it comes to international

:40:13. > :40:18.trade. That person is now the Prime Minister and that was before the

:40:19. > :40:23.referendum. The Japanese government, Mr Speaker, the Japanese government,

:40:24. > :40:29.Mr Speaker, wrote to her in September worried about a shambolic

:40:30. > :40:33.Brexit. Many Japanese countries are major investors in Britain such as

:40:34. > :40:38.Nissan in Sunderland, which has already halted its investment.

:40:39. > :40:43.140,000 people in Britain work for Japanese owned companies. They've

:40:44. > :40:48.made it clear that those jobs and investment depend on Single Market

:40:49. > :40:51.access. What reassurance can she give to workers today desperately

:40:52. > :40:56.worried about their future, their company, and their jobs?

:40:57. > :41:01.For store I would say to the Right Honourable gentleman, that the

:41:02. > :41:05.biggest vote of confidence that we had in Britain after referendum

:41:06. > :41:12.campaign was ?24 billion investment from the Japanese company taking

:41:13. > :41:16.over ARM but secondly in our negotiations what we are doing is he

:41:17. > :41:21.doesn't seem to get what the future is going to be about. The UK will be

:41:22. > :41:25.leaving the European Union. We're not asking ourselves what bits of

:41:26. > :41:28.membership we want to retain. We are saying, what is the right

:41:29. > :41:34.relationship for the UK to have for the maximum benefit of our economy

:41:35. > :41:37.and citizens this country. The member for Broxtowe said there is a

:41:38. > :41:41.danger that this government appeared to be turning their back on the

:41:42. > :41:44.Single Market, which was indeed a commitment in a Conservative Party

:41:45. > :41:50.manifesto. The reality is that since the Brexit vote the trade deficit is

:41:51. > :41:55.widening, growth forecasts being downgraded, the value of the pound

:41:56. > :41:59.down 16%, an alliance of the Chamber of Commerce, Confederation of

:42:00. > :42:04.British industry, British Retail Consortium and Trades Union Congress

:42:05. > :42:07.have all made representations to the Prime Minister demanding clarity. Is

:42:08. > :42:14.the Prime Minister really willing to risk a shambolic Tory Brexit just to

:42:15. > :42:17.appease the people behind her? What the Conservative Party

:42:18. > :42:21.committed to in its manifesto was to give the British people a referendum

:42:22. > :42:25.on whether to stay in the European Union. We gave the British people

:42:26. > :42:28.that vote. They have given their decision. We will be leaving the

:42:29. > :42:32.European Union and in doing that we will negotiate the right deal for

:42:33. > :42:38.the UK, which means the right deal in terms of operating within and

:42:39. > :42:41.trading with the European market. That's what matters to companies in

:42:42. > :42:45.the UK and that's what we are going to be a vicious about delivering.

:42:46. > :42:55.Jeremy Corbyn. The Right Honourable member for Rushcliffe almost always

:42:56. > :43:00.has a mot juste to help us in these cases and he said... I want to hear

:43:01. > :43:05.about the Right Honourable member for Rushcliffe. What he said was, in

:43:06. > :43:08.his own inimitable way, the reason the pound keeps zooming south is

:43:09. > :43:13.that absolutely nobody has the faintest idea what exactly we are

:43:14. > :43:17.going to put in place. We on these benches do respect the decision of

:43:18. > :43:19.the British people to leave the European Union.

:43:20. > :43:24.LAUGHTER But this is a government that drew

:43:25. > :43:28.up no plans for Brexit, that now has no strategy for negotiating Brexit

:43:29. > :43:33.and offers no clarity, no transparency, and no chance of

:43:34. > :43:37.scrutiny of the process for developing a strategy. The jobs and

:43:38. > :43:41.incomes of millions of our people at stake, the pound is plummeting,

:43:42. > :43:44.business is worrying and the Government has no answers. The Prime

:43:45. > :43:48.Minister says she won't give a running commentary, but isn't it

:43:49. > :43:52.time the Government stopped running away from the looming threat to jobs

:43:53. > :43:56.and businesses in this country and the living standards of millions of

:43:57. > :43:59.people? Unlike the Right Honourable

:44:00. > :44:02.gentleman I'm optimistic about the prospects of this country once we

:44:03. > :44:05.leave the European Union. I'm optimistic about the trade deals

:44:06. > :44:10.that other countries now actively are coming to us to say they want to

:44:11. > :44:13.do with the United Kingdom. And I'm optimistic about what power we will

:44:14. > :44:17.be able to ensure that our economy grows outside of the European Union.

:44:18. > :44:20.But I have to say to the Right Honourable gentleman on this issue,

:44:21. > :44:24.Labour didn't want a referendum on this issue, the Conservatives gave

:44:25. > :44:32.them a referendum, Labour didn't like the result. We are listening to

:44:33. > :44:35.the British people and delivering on that result. Now the Shadow Foreign

:44:36. > :44:37.Secretary is shouting from a sedentary position... The Shadow

:44:38. > :44:42.Foreign Secretary wants a second vote. I have to say to her, I would

:44:43. > :44:46.have thought that Labour MPs would have learned this lesson. You can

:44:47. > :44:48.ask the same question again, you still get the answer you don't want.

:44:49. > :45:05.CHEERING Thank you, Mr Speaker.

:45:06. > :45:09.Despite several rounds of European regional development funding the

:45:10. > :45:13.Cornish economy continues to lag around 30% below the UK average.

:45:14. > :45:17.Does the Prime Minister agree with me that Brexit provides us with the

:45:18. > :45:20.opportunity to develop our own economic programme that will be less

:45:21. > :45:26.bureaucratic, more effectively targeted and offered better value

:45:27. > :45:29.for money for the taxpayer? And will she confirmed that her government

:45:30. > :45:31.will continue to invest in the poorer regions of our country such

:45:32. > :45:38.as Cornwall once we leave? I thank my honourable friend and I

:45:39. > :45:42.can give them that assurance. What I was saying at our party conference

:45:43. > :45:45.and what I have been saying since I became Prime Minister, is we want an

:45:46. > :45:47.economy that works for everyone, that means every part of our

:45:48. > :45:52.country, including areas like Cornwall and the Isles of Scilly.

:45:53. > :45:55.We've already negotiated a devolution deal with Cornwall,

:45:56. > :45:59.signed in 2015, that will demonstrate that we recognise the

:46:00. > :46:02.challenges Cornwall faces but we're open for further discussions for

:46:03. > :46:06.Cornwall in the way we can improve their economy for the future. THE

:46:07. > :46:10.SPEAKER: Angus Robertson. The European Commission against

:46:11. > :46:15.racism and intolerance has found that a number of areas of concern

:46:16. > :46:20.over political discourse and hate speech in the UK, as well as

:46:21. > :46:27.violent, racial and religious attacks. Police statistics have

:46:28. > :46:31.shown a sharp rise in Islam phobic, anti-Semitic and zenophobic assaults

:46:32. > :46:35.over the past year. So, does the Prime Minister agree that all

:46:36. > :46:38.mainstream governments and all mainstream political parties should

:46:39. > :46:45.do everything that they can to oppose xenophobia and racism?

:46:46. > :46:49.Hear, hearment. - Hear, hear. I have been clear from the despatch box on

:46:50. > :46:55.a number of occasions, there is no place in our society for racism or

:46:56. > :46:58.hate crime. It is right that the police are investigating allegations

:46:59. > :47:03.of hate crime where they occur. I'm pleased to say as Home Secretary, I

:47:04. > :47:05.was able to improve the recording of hate crime, bringing the

:47:06. > :47:11.arrangements to improve that recording. We made also improving

:47:12. > :47:19.the requirement on police to specifically record hate crime in

:47:20. > :47:22.relation to faith, so that we see the anti-Islamphobia that has been

:47:23. > :47:26.taking place as well as anti-Semitism and other types of

:47:27. > :47:30.hate crime. There is no place for that in our society. We should, with

:47:31. > :47:33.one voice, from across this chamber, make that absolutely clear and give

:47:34. > :47:39.our police every support in dealing with.

:47:40. > :47:42.THE SPEAKER: Angus Robertson Can I remind the Prime Minister when she

:47:43. > :47:46.was Home Secretary, she put advertising vans on the streets

:47:47. > :47:49.telling foreigners to go home and at her party conference, we heard her

:47:50. > :47:53.party is wishing to register foreigners working in the UK. The

:47:54. > :47:58.crackdown and the rhetoric against foreigners by this Government has

:47:59. > :48:01.even led to Ukip, Ukip, saying that things have got too far.

:48:02. > :48:07.Can I tell the Prime Minister that across the length and breadth of

:48:08. > :48:11.this land, people are totally disgusted by the zenophobic language

:48:12. > :48:15.on display from her Government. So, will she now confirm to this House,

:48:16. > :48:20.will she confirm that the intention of her Government is still to go

:48:21. > :48:24.ahead with the registration of foreign workers, but apparently we

:48:25. > :48:29.shouldn't worry because it'll be kept secret by her Government?

:48:30. > :48:32.Can I say very gently to the right honourable gentleman, that I

:48:33. > :48:35.answered two questions on that earlier. And I suggest he should

:48:36. > :48:49.have listened to the answer I gave there.

:48:50. > :48:56.THE SPEAKER: Your moment has arrived. We have empowered local

:48:57. > :48:59.doctors to take leadership over important reconfiguration proposals

:49:00. > :49:04.N Shropshire, 300 doctors, surgeons and clinicians have been working on

:49:05. > :49:07.a vatal reconfiguration of vital A services in Shropshire and waechls

:49:08. > :49:10.when they make their decision later this month, it is very important for

:49:11. > :49:15.Government to back them and provide the capital funding required for

:49:16. > :49:19.this vital change to enhance patient safety.

:49:20. > :49:22.I thank the honourable gentleman. He is raising an important point. The

:49:23. > :49:25.configuration of services in his condition constituencicy and for

:49:26. > :49:29.others across this House is a significant issue. A provision I'm

:49:30. > :49:32.pleased to say we are actually seeing more people being treated in

:49:33. > :49:35.A today. We will, of course, look at the proposals that could. The

:49:36. > :49:39.point about the way this is being done, it is for local people to be

:49:40. > :49:42.able to have their voice heard and for decisions to be taken that

:49:43. > :49:46.preflect the needs in a particular local area. We all want to see A

:49:47. > :49:51.services, they are a vital service and I would like to pay tribute to

:49:52. > :49:56.all those who work in A hospitals across the country. THE SPEAKER: Meg

:49:57. > :49:59.Hillier. Mr Speaker, the Public Accounts Committee and controller

:50:00. > :50:04.and auditor general have both warned the NHS budget is not sustainable.

:50:05. > :50:09.When is her Government going to wake up to the reality of growing demand

:50:10. > :50:15.and avoid the political rhetoric and set a stonable NHS budget for this

:50:16. > :50:21.year and for the future? The Government took a very simple

:50:22. > :50:25.approach to this. We asked the NHS themselves to propose their

:50:26. > :50:30.five-year plan for the NHS. We asked them how much money they required.

:50:31. > :50:35.They said ?8 billion. We are giving them ?10 billion. More than the NHS

:50:36. > :50:40.said. Funding in the NHS is at record levels.

:50:41. > :50:50.The only place where fund money for the NHS is being cut is under a

:50:51. > :50:54.Labour administration in Wales. A young man with Asperger's syndrome

:50:55. > :50:58.awaits extradition to the United States facing charges of computer

:50:59. > :51:02.hacking and is then likely to kill himself. It sounds FA he is not of

:51:03. > :51:06.course, Gary McKinnon, who was saved by the Prime Minister but Larry Love

:51:07. > :51:21.who faces in effect a death sentence. So when the Prime Minister

:51:22. > :51:26.introduced a law to protect individuals, surely it would be for

:51:27. > :51:29.all. The honourable gentleman campaigned long and hard for Gary

:51:30. > :51:33.McKinnon. I took that decision, it was for the Home Secretary to decide

:51:34. > :51:36.whether there was a human rights' case for an individual not to be

:51:37. > :51:40.extradited. We subsequently changed the legal position on that. This is

:51:41. > :51:43.now a matter for the courts. There are accept parameters that the

:51:44. > :51:46.courts look at in terms of the extradition decision which is then

:51:47. > :51:50.passed to the Home Secretary but it is for the courts to derment human

:51:51. > :51:58.rights aspect of any case that comes forward much it was right, I think,

:51:59. > :52:03.to introduce the forum to make sure there was that challenge for cases

:52:04. > :52:06.here in the United Kingdom as to whether they should be held here.

:52:07. > :52:09.But the legal process is very clear and the Home Secretary is part of

:52:10. > :52:12.that legal process. THE SPEAKER: Vernon Coaker. What does the Prime

:52:13. > :52:18.Minister say to British Steel workers who have lost their jobs, or

:52:19. > :52:22.whose jobs are threatened, given the news that French steel is to be used

:52:23. > :52:30.for the new replacement Trident submarines? Is that what she means

:52:31. > :52:35.by being a party of the workers? Well, I have to say that the right

:52:36. > :52:39.honourable gentleman that we recognise the concerns of British

:52:40. > :52:42.Steel workers. That is why the Government has been, under my

:52:43. > :52:48.predecessor and is continuing, to work to ensure we can do what we can

:52:49. > :52:52.to promote and encourage and retain a steel industry here in the United

:52:53. > :52:57.Kingdom. A number of measures have been taken. If he was in the chamber

:52:58. > :53:02.earlier he will have heard my honourable friend setting those out

:53:03. > :53:06.in Scottish Questions. THE SPEAKER: Mr Philip Hollobone

:53:07. > :53:10.Doctors and nurses in Kettering hospital are treating a number of

:53:11. > :53:15.patients with increasingly world class treatments. But despite being

:53:16. > :53:22.located in an area of rising population and housing growth, due

:53:23. > :53:26.to an historic anomaly, the local commissioning groups are among those

:53:27. > :53:29.underfunded in the entire country. What can my right honourable friend

:53:30. > :53:34.the Prime Minister do to address the situation. As my right honourable

:53:35. > :53:37.friend says, we want it make sure that patients are experiencings the

:53:38. > :53:43.same levels of high-quality care regardless of where they live and

:53:44. > :53:45.work. That's why the funding for my honourable friend's local

:53:46. > :53:51.commissioning group is being corrected this year to more

:53:52. > :53:55.accurately reflect the level of need in local health need and it is an

:53:56. > :53:57.investment of over ?157 million going into his area. I think that

:53:58. > :54:00.shows the intention the Government has to ensure that we see that

:54:01. > :54:04.health service that is working for everyone across the country but of

:54:05. > :54:14.course we can only do that with the economy to back up that NHS.

:54:15. > :54:19.THE Speak Dr Alasdair McConnell. The Prime Minister will be aware that a

:54:20. > :54:21.soft border between the republic and Northern Ireland is vital in

:54:22. > :54:26.boosting the economy of Northern Ireland. Does the Prime Minister

:54:27. > :54:33.understand the confusion set in that many of us feel, that going forward,

:54:34. > :54:36.on the one hand the Government has defined the intention to tightly

:54:37. > :54:40.control free movement and labour but on the other hand, ensuring us the

:54:41. > :54:44.border between the Northern Ireland and Republic will be hope. Does the

:54:45. > :54:47.Prime Minister see the contradiction for many of those who are directly

:54:48. > :54:51.affected and whose jobs are affected in that? Well, I have been clear,

:54:52. > :54:55.the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland has been clear, the

:54:56. > :55:00.Taoiseach has also said that on both sides of the border we don't want to

:55:01. > :55:03.see a return to the borders of the past. I think it is worth reminding

:55:04. > :55:07.the House that actually the common travel area has been in place since

:55:08. > :55:11.the 1920s, so it was there well before we were both members of the

:55:12. > :55:15.European Union. We are working together with the Government of the

:55:16. > :55:18.Republic and, obviously I have had discussions on this with the First

:55:19. > :55:22.Minister and Deputy First Minister in Northern Ireland. We want to

:55:23. > :55:28.ensure, as I say, that we don't see a return to the borders of the past.

:55:29. > :55:31.Thank you, Mr Speaker, thanks to the Government' growth field a 32

:55:32. > :55:37.million transformation of a mill in my constituency getsnd way this

:55:38. > :55:40.week, giving a new lease of life to the largest redundant mill complex

:55:41. > :55:45.in loan ka shimplt can I thank the Prime Minister and commend the other

:55:46. > :55:49.bids in the late e round of the growth deal, as a great way to Mr A

:55:50. > :55:53.country that works for everyone. Can I commend my honourable friend on

:55:54. > :55:57.taking his opportunity in supporting the bids put from Pendle. He is

:55:58. > :56:02.right, the money that has been put in, has enabled this growth, like

:56:03. > :56:08.the mill, to be unlocked, as a local project. We've seen ?250 million

:56:09. > :56:11.committed to the Lancashire local enterprise partnership and ?2.8

:56:12. > :56:17.billion from the northern powerhouse through the growth fund and the

:56:18. > :56:20.latest round of funding is up to ?1.8 billion with good bids coming N

:56:21. > :56:24.we are assessing the bids, including those with Pendle and we'll be

:56:25. > :56:31.looked at with the seriousness that my honourable friend would expect.

:56:32. > :56:34.THE SPEAKER: This is the first Christmas that a lady will not see

:56:35. > :56:37.her husband, they have been together for ten years and married for four

:56:38. > :56:44.with two young children. It is evidence they are in a long term

:56:45. > :56:51.relationship but Hayley's Turkish hospital was refused a spouse visa

:56:52. > :56:55.because she o earns less than the Home Office target. This, I might

:56:56. > :57:00.say, compares with the Prime Minister's own constituency, where

:57:01. > :57:11.the medium salary was ?571. Almost ?30,000 a year.

:57:12. > :57:15.Can I Prime Minister explain why living in my constituency means they

:57:16. > :57:18.have a less chance of a proper family life and will she please

:57:19. > :57:22.help? I will not comment on the individual case. I know she has sent

:57:23. > :57:26.details in writing to me. I will make sure she gets a full rely from

:57:27. > :57:29.the Immigration Minister in relation to the specific case. The broader

:57:30. > :57:35.issue she raises about the income threshold for those wishing to join

:57:36. > :57:37.a partner in the UK. What the Government did, we asked an

:57:38. > :57:41.independent committee, the migration advisory committee to advise on the

:57:42. > :57:45.level that that income throws hold should be at. The migration advisory

:57:46. > :57:50.committee suggested a range of figures. We actually took the lowest

:57:51. > :57:57.figure in that range in taking ?18,600. They recommended that

:57:58. > :58:03.because it is the level at which a British family generally seeses to

:58:04. > :58:06.to be able to get benefits and we believe that people coming here are

:58:07. > :58:15.able to support themselves. ! My constituents were delighted to

:58:16. > :58:20.learn this week Gainsborough House a unique museum and art gallery based

:58:21. > :58:27.in the building where Gainsborough was born is to received money to

:58:28. > :58:31.become an attraction. Will my right honourable friend join me in

:58:32. > :58:36.congratulating the team in their success and does she agree with me n

:58:37. > :58:40.Suffolk, if we are bold and go for devolution, we can look forward to

:58:41. > :58:44.more of this investment in the years to come. Can I join my honourable

:58:45. > :58:48.friend in commending all those involved in the bid at gains are you

:58:49. > :58:52.House and the future that many people will enjoy fising it in the

:58:53. > :58:58.future as a result of the work that is going to be able to be done. I

:58:59. > :59:02.know the importance of the her stooge lottery fund. It supported a

:59:03. > :59:04.gallery in my own constituency. He is right, the point about the

:59:05. > :59:08.devolution deals is people coming together with that ambition for

:59:09. > :59:11.their local area, they can generate that transformative investment that

:59:12. > :59:15.he is now talking about and, of course, Suffolk is looking at the

:59:16. > :59:20.sort of deal that they might wish to have locally.

:59:21. > :59:24.THE SPEAKER: Ben Bradshaw. With Russian and Assad regime war planes

:59:25. > :59:27.bombing civilians in Aleppo at an unpress departmented rate, will she

:59:28. > :59:30.join France in calling for those responsible for these war crimes to

:59:31. > :59:33.be referred to the International Criminal Court? And will she

:59:34. > :59:37.reexamine, with Allies, the feasibility of a no-fly zone to

:59:38. > :59:42.protect the Syrian people, before it is too late?

:59:43. > :59:47.Hear, hear. Well, we are very clear that it is for the courts to decide

:59:48. > :59:53.where a war crime has been committed. It was May 2015 when we

:59:54. > :59:58.cosponsored a UN security resolution to refer those responsibility for

:59:59. > :00:03.war crimes and crimes of humanity in Syria regardless of affiliation to

:00:04. > :00:06.the national human tear court it was investigate yoked by Russia and

:00:07. > :00:09.China. On the issue of a no-fly zone, this has been addressed and

:00:10. > :00:14.people have looked at it for a number of years. The scenes we see

:00:15. > :00:17.of the indiscriminate slaughter of innocent civilians are appalling. We

:00:18. > :00:21.want to see an end to that. But there are many questions about a

:00:22. > :00:24.no-fly zone. Actually who is it there to protect? Would it lead to

:00:25. > :00:28.Assad bombing people in the expectation they would then move to

:00:29. > :00:31.that zone? How would you actually enforce a safe area there? Who would

:00:32. > :00:36.do that enforcement? There are many questions that need to be looked at

:00:37. > :00:40.in those sorts of issues. What we all know is that the only real

:00:41. > :00:44.solution for peace and stability in Syria, is a political transition,

:00:45. > :00:47.and it's time Russia accepted that, that the future of Syria is a

:00:48. > :00:54.political transition, to a stable Syria, free of Assad.

:00:55. > :00:59.THE SPEAKER: Fiona Bruce At a high school in my constituency, the most

:01:00. > :01:01.vulnerable pupils and their families are impressively supportive,

:01:02. > :01:04.pursuant to the school's moat yo of - achievement for all. Will the

:01:05. > :01:08.Prime Minister confirm that under her plans for education and in a

:01:09. > :01:12.country which works for everyone, that parents can be assured that

:01:13. > :01:16.there will be the right school place for their child, whatever their

:01:17. > :01:20.ability? Well, I thank my honourable friend

:01:21. > :01:25.and for the example that she has shown of the work taking place in

:01:26. > :01:28.her constituency. The whole aim of the Government's education policy is

:01:29. > :01:31.to increase the number of good school place so, parents can have

:01:32. > :01:35.the confidence that their child will have a good school place, and they

:01:36. > :01:38.will have the school place that is right for them.

:01:39. > :01:41.That's why we want to see universities more involved in

:01:42. > :01:47.schools, we want to see more faith schools being opened up, we want it

:01:48. > :01:51.seat independent sector helping the state sector where that is sensible

:01:52. > :01:55.and their expertise can help and yes, we do want to lift the ban,

:01:56. > :01:59.which currently say that is one type of good new school cannot be opened,

:02:00. > :02:03.it is I will Lille to open a new good school is that a selective

:02:04. > :02:08.school, we want to remove that ban so people of all opportunities get

:02:09. > :02:12.that opportunity. - it is illegal to open a new good school.

:02:13. > :02:16.The Prime Minister appears to have made a choice, and that choice is to

:02:17. > :02:23.side with the protectionist and nationalists who have taken over her

:02:24. > :02:32.party, as surely - as surely as momentum has taken over the Labour

:02:33. > :02:38.Party. She has chosen a hard Brexit that was never on anybody's ballot

:02:39. > :02:44.paper and she has chosen to turn her back on British business in the

:02:45. > :02:50.process. As a result - as a result, petrol prices and food retailers

:02:51. > :02:53.have warned of huge price rises. Shouting and jeering

:02:54. > :02:59.On supermarket shelves in the coming days. So when will she put the

:03:00. > :03:02.interests of hard-working British people ahead of extremist

:03:03. > :03:06.protectionism that absolutely nobody voted for.

:03:07. > :03:10.Hear, hear. The right honourable gentleman asks about who we are

:03:11. > :03:15.siding with. I will tell him who? We are siding with the British people

:03:16. > :03:22.who voted to leave the European Union. And it's high time the right

:03:23. > :03:25.honourable gentleman listened to the votes of the British people and

:03:26. > :03:29.accepted that that is what we are going to do.

:03:30. > :03:33.THE SPEAKER: Victoria Prentis Does the Prime Minister share my sadness

:03:34. > :03:37.that the majority of Banbury's babies cannot currently be

:03:38. > :03:42.delivered, as I was, in the Horton General Hospital and will she join

:03:43. > :03:47.with me in putting any influence and any pressure we can on the Trust to

:03:48. > :03:53.encourage them to recruit obstetricians we need to re-open our

:03:54. > :03:59.much-valued unit? Yes, I can say that I believe every

:04:00. > :04:03.effort is being made to fill the vacant obstetrics post test Horton

:04:04. > :04:08.General Hospital. I understand those mothers who are having a midwife-led

:04:09. > :04:11.delivery are still able it go to the Horton General Hospital but for

:04:12. > :04:15.others they have to go to the John Radcliffe Hospital in Oxford.

:04:16. > :04:20.Maternity services are important to people and I believe the trust is

:04:21. > :04:24.looking to ensure it is can fill the posts. What matters is a safe

:04:25. > :04:33.maternity service for mother and baby. THE SPEAKER: Angle eagle.

:04:34. > :04:38.I think many people across the House will be reassured that the

:04:39. > :04:41.Government accepted the amendment to the Opposition motion being debated

:04:42. > :04:47.later this afternoon, which guarantees that this House is able,

:04:48. > :04:52.properly, to scrutinise the plans for leaving the European Union

:04:53. > :04:55.before Article 50 is invoked. Can she tell us, will that scrutiny

:04:56. > :05:00.involve a vote? I have to say to the Right

:05:01. > :05:07.Honourable lady, that the idea that Parliament somehow wasn't going to

:05:08. > :05:12.be able to discuss, debate, question issues around...

:05:13. > :05:19.LAUGHTER ... Was, frankly, completely wrong.

:05:20. > :05:23.Let me give her some examples. First of all the Secretary of State for

:05:24. > :05:26.Existing the European Union has already made two statements in this

:05:27. > :05:30.House and four hours of questions followed from those. A new Select

:05:31. > :05:33.Committee has been set up, which crucially includes representatives

:05:34. > :05:38.from all parts of the United Kingdom, which will be looking at

:05:39. > :05:42.the issues and only, just over a week ago, I announced thereby a

:05:43. > :05:46.Great Repeal Bill in the next session of Parliament to repeal the

:05:47. > :05:51.act. So the Parliament will have every opportunity to debate this

:05:52. > :05:57.issue. THE SPEAKER: Will Quince. Thank you

:05:58. > :06:00.Mr Speaker, every year in the UK, 3,500 babies are still born, I

:06:01. > :06:05.commend the Government for setting the target for a 20% reduction by

:06:06. > :06:11.the end of this Parliament and a 50% reduction by 2030 but in in this

:06:12. > :06:15.babely loss awareness week, will the Prime Minister agree with me, we

:06:16. > :06:19.must provide the best-quality bereavement care for those parents

:06:20. > :06:22.who sadly lose a baby. I said to my honourable friend, he is right in

:06:23. > :06:28.this. I'm pleased to say the Health Secretary will be attending the Boo

:06:29. > :06:30.I why I Loss Awareness Week reception which will be held in

:06:31. > :06:33.Parliament today and I would encourage other members to attend as

:06:34. > :06:37.well. My honourable friend is right, the loss of a baby must be

:06:38. > :06:40.absolutely devastating and I am aware that there are people sitting

:06:41. > :06:45.in this chamber who have been through that tragedy in their lives.

:06:46. > :06:51.What what is absolutely essential is the best-possible bereavement care

:06:52. > :06:54.can be given to parents at that very, very, vulnerable and tragic

:06:55. > :06:58.moment in their lives, which is why we have been putting money - we

:06:59. > :07:02.introduced dedicated bereavement rooms at 40 hospitals and we are

:07:03. > :07:06.investing more in improving birthing facilities as well, because it is an

:07:07. > :07:10.important part but that care and counsel for people who have lost a

:07:11. > :07:16.baby is essential and I think we all accept that.

:07:17. > :07:20.Thank you, Mr Speaker. On the 2nd July, the Home Office were giving

:07:21. > :07:24.details of 178 children who are still stuck in the Calais refugee

:07:25. > :07:28.camps but had a legal right to be here in the UK with their families

:07:29. > :07:33.who could keep them safe and protected. Given the delays in

:07:34. > :07:37.acting, what responsibility does the Prime Minister think this Government

:07:38. > :07:42.has to the 18 of those children who have now gone missing?

:07:43. > :07:45.I would say to the honourable lady, far from not acting, actually the

:07:46. > :07:48.Government has been working with the French Government in relation to

:07:49. > :07:55.those who are in the camps. We have put extra resource into speeding up

:07:56. > :07:57.the process of dealing with the claims that are there, for

:07:58. > :08:00.unaccompanied children in the camps, and we have seen that process

:08:01. > :08:05.faster, it is quirk and more children coming as a result of that.

:08:06. > :08:08.This is alongside all the other work we are doing, in relation to

:08:09. > :08:13.refugees and to unaccompanied minors. Of course, crucially as

:08:14. > :08:17.well, working to ensure that we deal with the traffickers and the

:08:18. > :08:22.smugglers, who are often in those camps and who we need to make sure

:08:23. > :08:25.don't have access to children for the future. But we've speeded up the

:08:26. > :08:31.process and more children are coming here as a result of that.

:08:32. > :08:35.Thank you, Mr Speaker, tomorrow is Sendingry Breast Cancer day. I would

:08:36. > :08:39.like to ask the Prime Minister to join with me in wishing these men

:08:40. > :08:43.and women well but only one-third of NHS Trusts currently select the data

:08:44. > :08:47.in this Y would she agree with me that better data collection can

:08:48. > :08:50.inform diagnosis, treatment and the use of NHS resources across the

:08:51. > :08:56.piece and give better outcomes for all patients? Hear, hear. I entirely

:08:57. > :08:58.accept the point my honourable friend makes, that better

:08:59. > :09:03.information actually gives you a greater opportunity to be able to

:09:04. > :09:06.across these issues but can I also join with her in commending and

:09:07. > :09:12.wishing well all those, as she says, both men and women, who have

:09:13. > :09:16.suffered from breast cancer and who are - who have come through that, as

:09:17. > :09:19.I know she has herself. There are others in this House in that

:09:20. > :09:22.position but so many people across the country, and it is important

:09:23. > :09:26.that they do get the right care to ensure that they can come through

:09:27. > :09:33.that and see a bright future. Thank you, Mr speaker, last night n

:09:34. > :09:36.this House, a huge number of MPs presented petitions from towns right

:09:37. > :09:45.up and down this country. So will the Prime Minister now commit to

:09:46. > :09:50.overturning those mistaken 2011 arrangements and provide justice and

:09:51. > :10:00.transitional arrangements for Waspie women. The honourable lady should

:10:01. > :10:04.know. We made changes. We committed ?11 million for those affected. 81%

:10:05. > :10:08.of women will see increases. There will be no more than 12 months

:10:09. > :10:13.compared to the previous timetable. The DWP after the changes in 201 #1,

:10:14. > :10:16.informed people to the change in the state pension age and as we look

:10:17. > :10:20.forward, women will gain from the new pension arrangements being put

:10:21. > :10:25.in place. It has been a long-standing issue about women's

:10:26. > :10:27.pensions and women will see better pension arrangement in the future

:10:28. > :10:31.because of the changes that the Government has brought in.

:10:32. > :10:37.Mr Speaker, I gather the Prime Minister gave Chancellor Merkel a

:10:38. > :10:39.gift of wane write's coast-to-coast book outlining a fabulous walk

:10:40. > :10:45.throughout my constituency. Is the Prime Minister awhich are that it is

:10:46. > :10:52.not in fact an official national you trail and would she meet me with me

:10:53. > :10:55.to for my campaign to give this national treasure, national status.

:10:56. > :10:59.As my honourable friend knows, I enjoy walking and there are

:11:00. > :11:03.fantastic walks across the UK I have not done the coast-to-coast yet

:11:04. > :11:08.myself. Maybe - there isn't much time at the moment, but I have to

:11:09. > :11:12.say to him that I think he probably knows that the decision about the

:11:13. > :11:16.designation of the coast-to-coast is one more appropriately put to

:11:17. > :11:18.Natural England I'm sure he will be doing all he can to lobby natural

:11:19. > :11:37.England on this point. Mr Corbyn returned. There was a

:11:38. > :11:41.spring in his step, not as convincing as when he last crossed

:11:42. > :11:45.swords with Mrs May when he chose Grammar schools as the issue. The

:11:46. > :11:49.consensus was that he clearly won that exchange but he didn't let

:11:50. > :11:57.himself down today at all. Sometimes Mrs May was struggling to get her

:11:58. > :12:03.answers in. It was inevitably about Brexit, about how the negotiating

:12:04. > :12:07.position of this country, about the role of MPs, whether they should be

:12:08. > :12:11.a vote, if they shouldn't be a vote, I'm not sure we learned anything in

:12:12. > :12:14.the end but it was about that. We learned one thing that had nothing

:12:15. > :12:20.to do with Brexit, when asked about a no-fly zones in Syria, to try to

:12:21. > :12:24.protect the people currently being massacred, if it is not too strong a

:12:25. > :12:29.word, in the latter area at the moment, it was clear Mrs May wasn't

:12:30. > :12:32.a big supporter of a no-fly zone. She thought there were too many

:12:33. > :12:38.difficulties and I think that's the consensus of many people, largely

:12:39. > :12:43.because the Russians are so active in the skies as well there is a

:12:44. > :12:48.reluctance to do that. We may talk about that and the exchange between

:12:49. > :12:54.the two frontbenchers. John in Leeds said after watching

:12:55. > :12:57.PMQs I feel we have a Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition who

:12:58. > :13:01.have very few answers. Confusing policies and I can only surmise it's

:13:02. > :13:03.the blind being challenged by the blind.

:13:04. > :13:08.Tamina Roger says, at last, Jeremy Corbyn shows his true colours

:13:09. > :13:12.regarding Brexit. A great pity he didn't raise his voice before the

:13:13. > :13:14.referendum or was he keeping his powder dry?

:13:15. > :13:18.Marjorie says I'm even more convinced we need a General

:13:19. > :13:22.Election. Not sure that will happen. Although I'm not a supporter of

:13:23. > :13:25.Jeremy Corbyn he is doing a stellar job of being an effective opposition

:13:26. > :13:29.leader today. If he keeps this up he will have my vote.

:13:30. > :13:31.Denis Evans says when will the Remainers stop whingeing and allow

:13:32. > :13:36.the government of the day to to get on with the process of exiting the

:13:37. > :13:40.European Union and carrying out the wishes of the Brexit masses?

:13:41. > :13:47.There is lots of shadow boxing going on, I would suggest, at the moment.

:13:48. > :13:51.The Government is being asked a lot of questions by Labour politicians,

:13:52. > :13:55.by people like us in the media, that it's either not prepared to answer

:13:56. > :14:01.or doesn't know the answer to yet, and that this is going to go on for

:14:02. > :14:05.a while. When you turn these questions on Labour, we are in the

:14:06. > :14:11.same position. Indeed, they don't necessarily have the answers either.

:14:12. > :14:14.Although it is more important that the Government has the answers, the

:14:15. > :14:18.clue is in the name. Indeed but there are all sorts of reasons for

:14:19. > :14:20.that. First of all there isn't a common position in the Cabinet and

:14:21. > :14:24.Theresa May is the kind of politician who genuinely wants to

:14:25. > :14:28.look at, perhaps some people might suggest, too much of the fine detail

:14:29. > :14:33.before making her own conclusions. There are other reasons for that

:14:34. > :14:36.too, not least because with a two-year period of negotiation so

:14:37. > :14:41.much of that will change over that period of time, not least the cast

:14:42. > :14:45.of characters. Don't forget it might seem a tangent but it's critically

:14:46. > :14:48.important the French and German elections during that time period

:14:49. > :14:51.will mean the most powerful people on the other side of the table may

:14:52. > :15:00.not be the people who are currently in post. Matteo Renzi in Italy could

:15:01. > :15:03.no longer be in post. If you have been to European summits or followed

:15:04. > :15:08.these things for some time, the crunch comes almost at the last

:15:09. > :15:11.minute. Of course everybody in Westminster now is desperately

:15:12. > :15:14.trying to get to the detail and desperately trying to understand

:15:15. > :15:18.what the Government is hoping to achieve and that is why we see

:15:19. > :15:23.Parliament trying to get there or in. The MPs are determined cross

:15:24. > :15:30.parties with this interesting coalition between Labour, Lib Dems

:15:31. > :15:35.and SNP coming together to put the Government on big... To get more out

:15:36. > :15:40.of Theresa May on this. But what we hear now is a phoney war. Whatever

:15:41. > :15:44.we hear from the Government about what they are trying to achieve, so

:15:45. > :15:48.much may change between now and the crunch last few months of the

:15:49. > :15:51.renegotiation. It doesn't make it pointless, far from that, it is of

:15:52. > :15:55.course relevant to try and figure out what they are trying to do but

:15:56. > :16:00.it is such a shifting picture. Isn't the danger for the Government that

:16:01. > :16:05.if you leave a vacuum somebody else fills it and it's being filled by

:16:06. > :16:34.Labour, it's being filled by some rebellious backbenchers, it will be

:16:35. > :16:39.filled by the media, it will be filled in the end by the Commons and

:16:40. > :16:41.maybe even by the Lords. That's the risk the Government faces. I was

:16:42. > :16:43.press secretary for four years and I know everybody wants immediate

:16:44. > :16:46.answers but the Government is right to say we can give a running

:16:47. > :16:49.commentary on this. I know that you as journalists don't like that term.

:16:50. > :16:52.This is a huge decision, the biggest decision this country has taken for

:16:53. > :16:55.half a century and we have got to get it right. I am a minister in

:16:56. > :16:57.Defra and we are doing a huge amount of a trade patterns, opportunities,

:16:58. > :16:59.risks, massive amounts of analysis are being done by the civil service

:17:00. > :17:01.but we're not ready to take final trade patterns, opportunities,

:17:02. > :17:04.risks, massive amounts of analysis are being done by the civil service

:17:05. > :17:07.but we're not ready to take final decisions yes. We are doing lots of

:17:08. > :17:09.work and closer to it we will have green papers and white paper

:17:10. > :17:12.discussions of this sort. There will obviously be the Great Repeal Bill,

:17:13. > :17:14.there will have to be a lead up to that anyway that's an opportunity.

:17:15. > :17:16.Negotiating position. Will the Government published a white paper

:17:17. > :17:19.giving the broad outline of its negotiating strategy? That is quite

:17:20. > :17:21.possible, yes. We are doing lots of work and closer to it we will have

:17:22. > :17:23.green papers and white paper discussions of this sort. There will

:17:24. > :17:26.obviously be the Great Repeal Bill, there will have to be a lead up to

:17:27. > :17:29.that anyway that's an the Great Repeal Bill has a problem, it looks

:17:30. > :17:31.neither to be Grix nor a repeal. That's EU law will cease into

:17:32. > :17:34.British law. Interestingly George said there will be a green paper and

:17:35. > :17:37.a white paper. This week we reported on. It writes it into British law.

:17:38. > :17:40.Interestingly George said there will be a green paper and a white paper.

:17:41. > :17:42.This week we reported on that in told in various parts of had been

:17:43. > :17:45.told in various parts of, several sources have told me would be a

:17:46. > :17:48.green had been told there would be a that has now been junked. No 10,

:17:49. > :17:51.number as something planned early in the summer that has now been junked.

:17:52. > :18:02.No 10, number, to use the terrible new name of we should, we to David

:18:03. > :18:04.Davis said there is no plan for a Green Tambe. David Davis said there

:18:05. > :18:14.is no plan for a green paper there is no there is no plan for that

:18:15. > :18:17.clearly there are areas clearly there what would you like the

:18:18. > :18:21.government to do? We're not asking what bits we want... What would you

:18:22. > :18:29.like the government to do? We're not asking what bits to remain. That

:18:30. > :18:32.cannot the debate we had, the crucial issue about the Single

:18:33. > :18:35.Market, tariff free trade, we have to be clear that, the crucial issue

:18:36. > :18:38.about the Single Market, tariff free trade, we have to be clear that

:18:39. > :18:41.something we achieve. 30 countries have tariff free trade with the EU

:18:42. > :18:46.that are not members to achieve. 30 countries have tariff free trade

:18:47. > :18:50.with the EU that are Prime Minister from Monday of this week. Monday of

:18:51. > :18:53.this week there will not be a vote, now there is going to the vote.

:18:54. > :18:57.You've moved it is yet further that there might be a green Lemmy finish.

:18:58. > :18:59.What we just heard today was a handbrake turn by the Prime Minister

:19:00. > :19:02.from Monday of this week. Monday of this week there will not be a vote,

:19:03. > :19:05.now there is going to be a vote. You've moved it is yet further that

:19:06. > :19:08.there might be a or a white paper. Precisely what we need to do. The

:19:09. > :19:10.Government, not on every single aspect negotiation, but on

:19:11. > :19:12.objectives needs to be clear about what objectives needs to be clear

:19:13. > :19:16.about what national interest so there can be a process of debate,

:19:17. > :19:20.consultation, and that Parliament can't of the referendum. We have to

:19:21. > :19:22.respect the verdict of the referendum so the Parliament on

:19:23. > :19:25.behalf of the people can be sure that we don't have hard Brexit that

:19:26. > :19:28.damages Britain determined to achieve in the British national

:19:29. > :19:30.interest so there can be a process of debate, consultation, and that

:19:31. > :19:32.Parliament can't overturn the verdict of the referendum. We have

:19:33. > :19:34.to respect the verdict of the referendum so the Parliament on

:19:35. > :19:37.behalf of the people can be sure that we don't have hard Brexit that

:19:38. > :19:40.I think there is that you end the primacy of which is that you end the

:19:41. > :19:43.country and then put in place a partnership with the EU which might

:19:44. > :19:45.have all sorts of corporations and joint working European law and

:19:46. > :19:53.become a sovereign country and then put in place a partnership with the

:19:54. > :19:59.EU which might have all sorts of corporations and you will not be

:20:00. > :20:02.subject Swiss make a payment? They are wrong to say it is a

:20:03. > :20:05.contribution to the EU budget because it is a contribution to the

:20:06. > :20:08.areas where you worked European law. Do the Swiss make a payment? They

:20:09. > :20:11.are wrong to say it is a contribution to the EU budget

:20:12. > :20:14.because it is a contribution to the areas where you worked jointly. We

:20:15. > :20:17.do not need to take a position we do not need to take still if there were

:20:18. > :20:22.areas where you were still working participate in schemes like that, it

:20:23. > :20:27.is wider than the EU, it is a wider Europe issue. What is the

:20:28. > :20:29.Government's position now on assessing the, something like

:20:30. > :20:32.Erasmus, if you are going to participate in schemes like that, it

:20:33. > :20:34.is wider than the EU, it is a wider Europe issue. What is the

:20:35. > :20:36.Government's position now on assessing the percentage in a

:20:37. > :20:39.company that position? The Prime Minister made it clear, she is

:20:40. > :20:42.looking to consult on this area, the objective is to make sure the

:20:43. > :20:47.government has the information it needs to be able to consider. What

:20:48. > :20:50.is the Government's position? The Prime Minister made it clear, she is

:20:51. > :20:52.looking to consult on this area, the objective is to make sure the

:20:53. > :20:55.government has the information it needs to be able to consider. What

:20:56. > :20:59.information make sure it has the information on companies heavily

:21:00. > :21:02.reliant on immigrant it should make sure it has the information on

:21:03. > :21:06.companies heavily reliant on and to make clear if there are areas where

:21:07. > :21:10.you need training. It's about understanding your the time the

:21:11. > :21:15.Downing Street briefing at the time impact on the local labour force of

:21:16. > :21:20.the hiring pulses of particular companies. And be clear about the

:21:21. > :21:25.proportion of the workforce that is international -- hiring policies.

:21:26. > :21:30.They mean migrants. Clear about the proportion of the workforce that was

:21:31. > :21:36.international. Is that the policy still? Yes, that is it, but this

:21:37. > :21:40.isn't a name and shame... I'm not asking for... It never was that, it

:21:41. > :21:44.was simply about the Government being able to understand about the

:21:45. > :21:47.workforce, understand sectors particularly reliant on

:21:48. > :21:50.international workers and to understand how we can deal with

:21:51. > :21:56.that, whether we can fill those skills gaps with our own people. Not

:21:57. > :22:01.that different from the policy Ed Miliband proposed in the last

:22:02. > :22:04.Parliament. That we have at the next stage is a major emphasis on

:22:05. > :22:10.listening to the people whose discontents led them to vote Brexit,

:22:11. > :22:14.those left behind post-industrial areas, a major programme, ladders of

:22:15. > :22:18.opportunity for them, without hesitation. That we go back down the

:22:19. > :22:24.path, however, of fingering people on the basis of colour of their

:22:25. > :22:29.skin. Nobody is saying that, Ed Miliband proposed this. Why is it

:22:30. > :22:33.wrong for the government to propose this and not wrong for Ed Miliband

:22:34. > :22:38.to propose it? What the government is proposing would not disgrace

:22:39. > :22:42.Ukip. This kind of proposal is dog whistle politics. Do you know what,

:22:43. > :22:47.it stinks and it is reminiscent of what happened during the referendum

:22:48. > :22:54.debate when the immigration card was played. It is just rhetoric, let's

:22:55. > :22:58.get down to the principal. This has nothing to do with that which is

:22:59. > :23:03.obviously reprehensible. The issue is that if you find companies that

:23:04. > :23:08.are hiring a large proportion of migrant labour, it sends you a

:23:09. > :23:12.signal that when there is still an unemployed pool of labour in this

:23:13. > :23:17.country that we not training people with right skills. So it would give

:23:18. > :23:22.you an indication of where you should emphasise your efforts on

:23:23. > :23:25.skills so that over time these jobs would be done by the unemployed

:23:26. > :23:30.people in this country. What could be wrong with that? It goes back to

:23:31. > :23:34.what Kier Starmer said on Sunday and I think he was absolutely right.

:23:35. > :23:38.Just answer my question, what's wrong with that? That information is

:23:39. > :23:42.already available, if you look at the sectoral analyses that have been

:23:43. > :23:45.done of the care sector, National Health Service sector on the one

:23:46. > :23:49.hand and areas of high unemployment where there are lots of people

:23:50. > :23:53.unemployed, that information is readily available. What we do not

:23:54. > :23:57.need, on the back of what has been a deeply divisive referendum campaign

:23:58. > :24:01.which has seen a rise in race hate in our country, we don't want our

:24:02. > :24:04.government to fuel that at the next stage. We have to leave it there.

:24:05. > :24:05.Laura, thanks. Now, yesterday on the Daily Politics

:24:06. > :24:08.we discussed the question of whether Jeremy Corbyn should have

:24:09. > :24:11.attended a rally held by the Stand Up To Racism

:24:12. > :24:13.organisation last weekend. Mr Corbyn had faced criticism

:24:14. > :24:15.from some Labour Party members who argued he shouldn't attend

:24:16. > :24:18.the rally because of what they saw as the organisation's links

:24:19. > :24:21.to the Socialist Workers Party. During the discussion,

:24:22. > :24:23.the Labour-supporting journalist James Bloodworth suggested that one

:24:24. > :24:25.of the reasons for concern was that the SWP leadership had

:24:26. > :24:28.persuaded an SWP member not to take a case of sexual

:24:29. > :24:36.harassment to the police. The Secretary of the SWP

:24:37. > :24:38.has since been in touch with the programme -

:24:39. > :24:41.we are happy to clarify that the SWP They are traditionally

:24:42. > :24:54.consumed to mitigate the ill-effects of the excessive

:24:55. > :24:56.consumption of alcohol. Everyone does it to mitigate the

:24:57. > :25:05.effects of alcohol. But are we missing out on the health

:25:06. > :25:08.benefits of this Turkish delicacy. Well - Jeremy Corbyn has appointed

:25:09. > :25:10.a new Shadow Minister for Public Health who is

:25:11. > :25:13.a big fan of Kebabs - her name is Sharon Hodgson -

:25:14. > :25:16.and here she is at the I, like a lot of the UK

:25:17. > :25:19.population, love kebabs. You know, kebabs can

:25:20. > :25:21.be quite healthy. People often think it is something

:25:22. > :25:25.that people have after a night out but, actually, you know,

:25:26. > :25:27.Turkish food is really, really lovely and it's far more

:25:28. > :25:30.than just a kebab as well. They are not something

:25:31. > :25:44.I make at home. So I would hope that I would be able

:25:45. > :25:47.to get some recipes. I'm hoping somebody I meet tonight

:25:48. > :25:49.might give me a recipe I'm joined now by Ibrahim Dogus,

:25:50. > :25:53.who runs the very same British Kebab Awards -

:25:54. > :26:06.and has brought some Let's call it that for the moment.

:26:07. > :26:10.Aren't you lucky, lunch has been provided, feeling hungry? How is it

:26:11. > :26:16.healthy food, because most people associate it with a treat or

:26:17. > :26:23.something you have late at night? Is that a euphemism? For what? Nothing!

:26:24. > :26:28.That is a perception built around late-night food, it is a stereotype.

:26:29. > :26:33.Kebabs are a healthy food, kidnap means cooked over an open flame,

:26:34. > :26:44.burgers, steaks, barbecue fish, they are all part of the kidnap industry.

:26:45. > :26:49.We have chicken, lamb, vegetarian. The perception that it is unhealthy

:26:50. > :26:51.is wrong. It's only a small part of the industry, we beyond that, much

:26:52. > :26:57.bigger than what has been talked about. Do you think the British

:26:58. > :27:03.kidnap awards have changed people's perceptions about this food? For the

:27:04. > :27:06.last four years we have changed peoples perceptions and raised

:27:07. > :27:10.standards. There are small takeaway is across the country not doing a

:27:11. > :27:13.good job for the industry so we are tackling those issues alongside

:27:14. > :27:16.making sure the public is aware of what is available for them as part

:27:17. > :27:21.of a healthy diet. How did you persuade Jeremy Corbyn to present,

:27:22. > :27:28.he is a vegetarian, to present the prize at the British Kebab Awards. I

:27:29. > :27:32.noticed that you have brought a plate of vegetarian food. We have

:27:33. > :27:34.been supported by the former Prime Minister David Cameron, current

:27:35. > :27:40.Prime Minister Theresa May and many other candidate and Shadow Cabinet

:27:41. > :27:43.members. This is about diversity, a celebration of diversity and British

:27:44. > :27:49.enterprise and supporting small businesses across the country.

:27:50. > :27:55.How much and how often do you eat kebabs, George? If I'm honest, the

:27:56. > :28:03.Turn 2 Tabarrak, after being nightclubbing as a student -- the

:28:04. > :28:09.doner kebab. You have to change the perception. I am the Minister for

:28:10. > :28:15.food. Just to clear that up! I couldn't make the dinner they have

:28:16. > :28:19.every March. Are you a fan? I am, during the referendum campaign in

:28:20. > :28:23.Birmingham on a BBC programme I did what do you take away from a

:28:24. > :28:31.takeaway kebab shop. Ask me everything you want to know. We

:28:32. > :28:36.haven't got time for this! That is a long story. Neil Kinnock was the one

:28:37. > :28:46.who got properly kebabbed. Let's put you out of your misery. It

:28:47. > :28:55.was 1981. That was the answer to Guess The Year. Brian Wishart from

:28:56. > :28:57.Glasgow. There's just time to put you out

:28:58. > :29:04.of your misery and give The News at One is starting

:29:05. > :29:06.over on BBC One now.