19/10/2016

:00:37. > :00:51.Morning folks, welcome to the Daily Politics.

:00:52. > :00:53.Britain has committed to taking in unaccompanied minors,

:00:54. > :00:56.around 300 of them, from the jungle camp in Calais -

:00:57. > :00:58.but how many of those applying are actually under 18?

:00:59. > :01:00.We've waited almost 50 years for a new runway

:01:01. > :01:03.in the South East of England - next week the government

:01:04. > :01:06.will finally tell us where THEY want it to be built -

:01:07. > :01:09.but how many more years could it be until the bulldozers move in?

:01:10. > :01:12.Theresa May will face Jeremy Corbyn in their weekly clash at PMQs today.

:01:13. > :01:15.We'll bring it live and uninterrupted at midday.

:01:16. > :01:18.And why you'll have to consider Brexit if you're playing the hit

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:01:29. > :01:34.All that in the next 90 minutes and with us for the duration today

:01:35. > :01:37.two of the most sought after players in SW1 - brought to

:01:38. > :01:40.you at great expense on the Westminster transfer market -

:01:41. > :01:42.Shadow Environment Secretary Rachael Maskell and Foreign Office

:01:43. > :01:54.The jungle camp and Calais is due to be demolished over the next few

:01:55. > :01:57.weeks by the French government and Britain has agreed to take some

:01:58. > :01:59.unaccompanied child migrants in the camp.

:02:00. > :02:02.But as photographs appeared of some of those who have already arrived

:02:03. > :02:04.in Britain, questions are being asked about

:02:05. > :02:08.18 and what checks are being made to verify their ages.

:02:09. > :02:17.The charity Safe Passage UK has identified 387 unaccompanied

:02:18. > :02:22.children in Calais with a legal right to come to Britain.

:02:23. > :02:24.French authorities agreed to verify the list

:02:25. > :02:30.and Home Secretary Amber Rudd said all of those with a legitimate claim

:02:31. > :02:39.result" if the UK ended up taking 300 children from the camps.

:02:40. > :02:42.On Monday Fourteen refugees arrived in the UK under a fast-track

:02:43. > :02:48.system launched to transfer vulnerable youngsters

:02:49. > :02:54.about the age of those arriving, with Conservative MP David Davies

:02:55. > :02:56.saying 'these don't look like children to me'

:02:57. > :02:58.If a refugee doesn't have a birth certificate,

:02:59. > :03:01.the Home Office has no way of independently verifying their age

:03:02. > :03:06.- judgements are based on their "physical appearance"

:03:07. > :03:18.in the year to September 2015, 65% of child refugees

:03:19. > :03:21.who had their age disputed were found to be over 18.

:03:22. > :03:23.David Davies has called for tougher tests -

:03:24. > :03:26.such as x-rays or dental investigations - to be used

:03:27. > :03:31.to establish the age of refugees coming here.

:03:32. > :03:42.And we are hoping to speak to David Davies later in the programme.

:03:43. > :03:46.Andrew. Thank you, JoCo. Tobias Ellwood, the government thought we

:03:47. > :03:51.were bringing in vulnerable child refugees, what happened? We are, we

:03:52. > :03:54.have not only programmes in place to support those who are orphaned or

:03:55. > :04:00.needing medical attention in Syria, bringing them to the UK... I'm

:04:01. > :04:04.talking about the ones in the Jungle camp in Calais. What evidence do we

:04:05. > :04:14.have that the once we have seen this week are unaccompanied minors? As

:04:15. > :04:18.you report suggests, this is difficult to check and we must make

:04:19. > :04:24.sure we get it right. When you think of the problems of people fleeing

:04:25. > :04:29.Syria it is a target that is difficult to get to. I must say that

:04:30. > :04:33.I'm not in support of this idea of dental processing. Dental

:04:34. > :04:37.organisations say this is not ethical. So how do you establish

:04:38. > :04:41.their age because many people think that the pictures we have seen of

:04:42. > :04:47.the people coming in, it's quite hard to categorise them child

:04:48. > :04:50.refugees. It is, it is a challenge we are facing. Our efforts are

:04:51. > :04:55.linking up those people caught in the camps who have a genuine reason

:04:56. > :05:00.to come to the UK because they have families and so forth... But you're

:05:01. > :05:04.getting it wrong, in the year to September 2015 there were 574

:05:05. > :05:09.refugees checked for age and 371 were adults! Not an isolated

:05:10. > :05:16.problem. The British people think that we are doing a bit, maybe not

:05:17. > :05:20.enough but we are doing something to help unaccompanied minors and it

:05:21. > :05:27.turns out that we are letting in a number of adults. Muggy it will be

:05:28. > :05:33.very difficult. Why have you made a mess of it? I don't agree that it is

:05:34. > :05:39.a mess. There is an humanitarian requirement to support the French

:05:40. > :05:44.when dealing with people who need help but they are keen to get out of

:05:45. > :05:47.the camp and into the UK and we need checks and balances in place and

:05:48. > :05:52.clearly they are not working as they should. It is irrelevant now, isn't

:05:53. > :05:57.it, because if they are in this country and they have got in on the

:05:58. > :06:01.basis of being unaccompanied minors and they are aged 32, there is

:06:02. > :06:08.nothing we can do, they will claim asylum and you can't send them back.

:06:09. > :06:12.That is not true... They originally come from Syria and this is why we

:06:13. > :06:18.are leaning into the problem in Syria itself. To prevent those

:06:19. > :06:23.people making that very tough decision either to stay in places

:06:24. > :06:27.like Alaba and be bombed or make the treacherous journey across Europe...

:06:28. > :06:34.If it turns out that somebody has come in on the pretence of being an

:06:35. > :06:40.unaccompanied minor and you find that they are anything but, I put it

:06:41. > :06:45.to you that you cannot return them to Syria. We cannot at the moment

:06:46. > :06:49.because of the humanitarian requirement to look after them. But

:06:50. > :06:52.the long-term objective is to turn Syria into a place where you can

:06:53. > :06:56.make sure that these people can safely returned. Let's not forget

:06:57. > :07:00.that those who have made it to Calais and the able and the

:07:01. > :07:06.committed. It's important to stress this. If they are coming here for a

:07:07. > :07:11.safe haven we should expect at some point in the feature that they were

:07:12. > :07:16.returned. These are talking points which do not address the issue this

:07:17. > :07:21.morning. It is this. Your government told the British people, we will

:07:22. > :07:24.bring in unaccompanied minors because these are the most

:07:25. > :07:28.vulnerable people, the most at risk if we don't do this, ending up in

:07:29. > :07:34.the sex trafficking trade, child abuse and all the rest of it. And it

:07:35. > :07:38.turns out that there is now? Over what you are doing. Just another

:07:39. > :07:44.example of why the British people do not have confidence in the British

:07:45. > :07:48.elite, isn't it? You are using extreme language to cover your

:07:49. > :07:53.argument. I am saying that we are doing the right thing but it is

:07:54. > :07:56.indeed difficult, as you report suggested, there will be some

:07:57. > :08:02.people, perhaps teenagers who came into the camp aged 17, they are now

:08:03. > :08:07.19, with a connection in the UK. It's it extremely difficult to get

:08:08. > :08:11.checks in place. But we must open our doors to those with a connection

:08:12. > :08:15.to the UK. It's an agreement we have with France and it's the right thing

:08:16. > :08:20.to do. Whether they are unaccompanied minors or not? There

:08:21. > :08:25.are those that are challenging the system but at the end of the date

:08:26. > :08:28.nobody gaining asylum for very long we'll be here forever because

:08:29. > :08:33.eventually we hope Syria will be in a place where they can return when

:08:34. > :08:39.they want to. If they get asylum they can stay here. They can't stay

:08:40. > :08:47.here in perpetuity. After a certain time they can. They can apply for

:08:48. > :08:53.it, absolutely. Lets talk to David Davies, the Tory MP who has called

:08:54. > :08:57.for tougher tests for unaccompanied minors. What firm evidence do you

:08:58. > :09:03.have that the refugees are not minors? Obviously at the moment we

:09:04. > :09:07.going mainly on their appearance. The government advice is that they

:09:08. > :09:12.must be given the benefit of the doubt, if they claim to be under the

:09:13. > :09:17.age of 18. I would suggest that we need to update that. There's one in

:09:18. > :09:21.my constituency where an Afghan national claimed to be younger than

:09:22. > :09:26.he was and carried out an assault. The worrying thing is that if

:09:27. > :09:29.someone is claiming to be a child in their 20s, they will be in a foster

:09:30. > :09:33.home with other children and possibly in a school with the

:09:34. > :09:37.children and there are child protection issues. We are on the

:09:38. > :09:41.same page. We all believe that there are children who need our help. I'm

:09:42. > :09:46.very proud of what the government is doing to try to help children... You

:09:47. > :09:51.are not on the same page, Tobias Ellwood is not in favour of having

:09:52. > :10:00.dental tests taken, dental records examined, and when you say you are

:10:01. > :10:02.worried about child health or child safety issues you don't have any

:10:03. > :10:04.evidence. You are just going on appearance. Appearance is not

:10:05. > :10:09.scientific, is it? You would admit that. So you think that these child

:10:10. > :10:13.refugees are not minors and are older than they seem. They may be.

:10:14. > :10:18.Some are questioning whether the pictures featured in the papers

:10:19. > :10:22.today are those we have accepted as unaccompanied minors. Do you accept

:10:23. > :10:26.that? We are all going on appearances at the moment and no one

:10:27. > :10:30.can be certain when it comes to appearance. If someone is clearly

:10:31. > :10:34.under 18 they should be given the benefit of the doubt. If there is

:10:35. > :10:38.uncertainty they should still be given the benefit of the doubt. A

:10:39. > :10:40.piece of advice needs to be changed. If we are to help genuine children

:10:41. > :11:00.we need to be certain that the rules are not being

:11:01. > :11:03.abused. I am sure Tobias would agree. It is not unreasonable to ask

:11:04. > :11:06.someone to take simple medical test, especially if by failing to do that

:11:07. > :11:09.we may put at risk children in the UK by placing them in a home with

:11:10. > :11:11.someone who might be much older than they appear. Leak could be in danger

:11:12. > :11:14.from an 18-year-old, the difference between 18 and 22 is not that fast.

:11:15. > :11:17.There are some people who think this is very unreasonable. The leader of

:11:18. > :11:19.the Green party says we should apologise and retract your comments

:11:20. > :11:23.because for many of these unaccompanied minors, as we are

:11:24. > :11:26.describing them, they have had months of gruelling journey to

:11:27. > :11:30.Calais, they are fleeing persecution, they have been waiting

:11:31. > :11:35.in grim conditions in the camp and many of them have perhaps gone over

:11:36. > :11:38.the age of 18 by the time the bureaucratic process has been

:11:39. > :11:43.exhausted and know you want them to have dental checks and x-rays.

:11:44. > :11:48.Nobody in Calais has to be there, they could have claimed asylum in

:11:49. > :11:52.France or any other country they have gone through, they are there

:11:53. > :11:56.because they want to be in the UK and they have decided they would

:11:57. > :12:00.rather be there and anywhere else. I'm not suggesting blanket dental

:12:01. > :12:04.checks, we already do them. I tabled written questions about it in

:12:05. > :12:09.February after the incident in Monmouthshire and found that between

:12:10. > :12:14.half and two thirds of people who have undergone those tests were

:12:15. > :12:19.found to have given incorrect information about their age. It is,

:12:20. > :12:24.and policy and was suggested by Liam Byrne ten years ago. A test that is

:12:25. > :12:27.used all over the world, America, Australia, what I am suggesting is

:12:28. > :12:33.not that controversial, merely an extension of something we already

:12:34. > :12:39.do. Will you please stay with us, David Davies, for this discussion.

:12:40. > :12:45.Diane Abbott the Shadow Home Secretary says that any age tests

:12:46. > :12:52.violation of human rights. A line in the sand, that is what we're talking

:12:53. > :12:56.about, you could be a 19 year woman, vulnerable, possibly trafficked...

:12:57. > :12:59.We know that young men can also be trafficked and exploited. And so

:13:00. > :13:06.many children have already gone missing. Why is an age test a

:13:07. > :13:10.violation of human rights? What I would say is, especially x-rays and

:13:11. > :13:14.invasive violations of young adults who have been through so much

:13:15. > :13:19.torment to be put through another humiliating process... Why is it

:13:20. > :13:25.humiliating to have an x-ray? We are looking at things like dental tests.

:13:26. > :13:28.These people want to be reunited with their family members after the

:13:29. > :13:33.trauma they have gone through and if we are talking about somebody who is

:13:34. > :13:37.17 or 18, we have to bring these vulnerable adults and young people

:13:38. > :13:42.into a place of safety... Do you agree to do and age test would be a

:13:43. > :13:48.violation of human rights? Standards are already in place. We have heard

:13:49. > :13:54.from Tobias what those tests are. Do you agree it would be a violation of

:13:55. > :13:59.human rights? The individual's human rights is to live in a safe place

:14:00. > :14:06.seat - Place of safety, it has not only been violated in their home

:14:07. > :14:09.where they live... The French government survey suggests that only

:14:10. > :14:14.5% of people in the Jungle camp come from Syria. It is more complicated

:14:15. > :14:18.than that. The reason why I am asking, if you think an age test is

:14:19. > :14:23.a violation of human rights and it isn't clear that you do, the Shadow

:14:24. > :14:27.Home Secretary says it is, if the British government announces to the

:14:28. > :14:33.British people, we are going to bring in people on the basis that

:14:34. > :14:39.they are unaccompanied minors, how do you establish that without an age

:14:40. > :14:43.test? Even the processes which David Davies lucked out not 100% accurate.

:14:44. > :14:47.These people have no documents to prove their date of birth. They've

:14:48. > :14:52.been through incredible trauma. What we should be looking at is

:14:53. > :14:57.vulnerability... Does that mean you don't try? I am not indicating that

:14:58. > :15:00.we don't try. We should though be looking at the vulnerability of

:15:01. > :15:04.these individuals and whether they can be reunited family members at

:15:05. > :15:10.what has been a chaotic time for these young people. As a country we

:15:11. > :15:14.have said we will bring in 20,000 people, and the government are far

:15:15. > :15:19.off Matt Targett at the moment. Ringing in five or six people over

:15:20. > :15:22.age, we don't know how many, it doesn't even compare with the 20,000

:15:23. > :15:28.people that the government has promised.

:15:29. > :15:34.Isn't it a matter of trust with the British people, that the political

:15:35. > :15:38.elite says to the British people, we are going to bring in some

:15:39. > :15:42.unaccompanied minors, the British people have in their mind a

:15:43. > :15:47.traumatised little boy of the Syrian bombing, with blood coming down his

:15:48. > :15:52.face, what a baby washed ashore on a Greek island, dead. That is what the

:15:53. > :15:55.British people think of with child refugees. Then they see the pictures

:15:56. > :16:02.of the ones who are coming and they feel cheated. They feel that you,

:16:03. > :16:07.the elite, haven't told the true story. Those individuals feel judged

:16:08. > :16:12.because they have come from a place which has torn their life, perhaps

:16:13. > :16:16.their family apart, their existence, and they feel judged by individuals

:16:17. > :16:19.because they are vulnerable, and what's important is that we provide

:16:20. > :16:24.the safeguarding necessary to protect those young people. I need

:16:25. > :16:30.to go to David Davies. You get the final word. Surely the issue is

:16:31. > :16:34.whether, as Rachael Maskell is saying, is whether they are

:16:35. > :16:38.vulnerable are not and, if they are, we are bringing people in, they are

:16:39. > :16:43.entitled to asylum, whatever their age. If they are vulnerable and

:16:44. > :16:48.under 18, is government policy to bring them in, and I support that.

:16:49. > :16:52.What I think is important is that the rules aren't abused. The rule is

:16:53. > :16:57.clear that they have to be under 18. If that is abused, it is wrong. It's

:16:58. > :17:03.no good arguing that, if they are 20 25, is OK. The rules are the rules.

:17:04. > :17:07.I want more of those young children to be brought in. There is a lack of

:17:08. > :17:11.women and children, the most vulnerable people coming in, and we

:17:12. > :17:16.all agree we need to help those people. We will see what more

:17:17. > :17:19.information we get as this story develops and whether these pictures

:17:20. > :17:21.in the paper are accurate. We haven't had them verified.

:17:22. > :17:24.It was in 1968 that the then Prime Minister Harold Wilson set up

:17:25. > :17:26.a commission to examine extra airport capacity in

:17:27. > :17:34.I laughed because it is 50 years ago.

:17:35. > :17:37.Now, nearly 50 years later, we're being told the Government

:17:38. > :17:40.will inform us where they would like a new runway to be

:17:41. > :17:44.Although don't expect to see a bulldozer in action any time soon.

:17:45. > :17:47.There will then be what's been called a "full and fair" public

:17:48. > :17:50.consultation before MPs vote in the winter of 2017/18 -

:17:51. > :17:53.and we know how good they are at making decisions.

:17:54. > :17:56.Yesterday, we learnt that Theresa May will pilot a special

:17:57. > :17:59.Cabinet sub-committee on the question of airport

:18:00. > :18:03.On board are eight members of her Cabinet, including the Chancellor,

:18:04. > :18:10.Initially other Cabinet Ministers would not be forced to support

:18:11. > :18:13.the Government's position, so Education Secretary Justine

:18:14. > :18:16.Greening and Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson,

:18:17. > :18:20.who have long been opposed to another runway at Heathrow,

:18:21. > :18:24.would be "able to express their views for a limited time"

:18:25. > :18:36.though they won't be able to speak out in parliament or openly protest.

:18:37. > :18:43.50 years on, and government are still bottling it. I don't think

:18:44. > :18:49.that's correct. You are right to put it in context. We do need extra

:18:50. > :18:55.airport capacity. Where is it going to be? People have to circle before

:18:56. > :18:57.landing at Heathrow and Gatwick. I think Patrick McLoughlin made it

:18:58. > :19:02.clear as Transport Secretary what the timetable was. What we see in

:19:03. > :19:06.the media today saying that things have been delayed further is

:19:07. > :19:10.incorrect. An announcement will be made next week but then there is the

:19:11. > :19:14.national planning framework, a legal concentration that has to last a

:19:15. > :19:20.year. Proposal is put forward and people get an opportunity to respond

:19:21. > :19:25.to it. That was laid out by Patrick McLoughlin. That is what process

:19:26. > :19:29.starts next week. In response to the Davies commission. We are on the

:19:30. > :19:33.timetable. If there has been any delay, turning to labour twice under

:19:34. > :19:39.Labour it was kicked down the road when there was an opportunity. David

:19:40. > :19:43.Cameron took six years to make a decision. I really think that the

:19:44. > :19:48.viewers, throwing mud at each other on this issue when you are both

:19:49. > :19:51.culpable... Who set in 2008, the government is clearly give the ring

:19:52. > :19:57.on Heathrow expansion. You said that. The plan we have put into

:19:58. > :20:01.place now, with this announcement next week in Parliament, is

:20:02. > :20:07.according to the plan. It was Theresa May who said it and she is

:20:08. > :20:13.dithering again. We are on track. It must be taken into consideration

:20:14. > :20:18.with the nation's needs. That was the Davies commission. Which has

:20:19. > :20:23.just reported. Former Tory party chairman Grant Shapps says Theresa

:20:24. > :20:28.May, she is failing to show guts with a quick decision. We have a

:20:29. > :20:31.decision next week and spent a year's consultation. We have to do

:20:32. > :20:36.it. We can't just send the bulldozers in next week. It would be

:20:37. > :20:41.illegal. The plan we are following is the timetable that was announced

:20:42. > :20:43.in the past. You can't send the bulldozers in until you get planning

:20:44. > :20:50.permission, which could take more than a year. There has to be a legal

:20:51. > :20:57.response. That process takes a year and that is the timetable we are

:20:58. > :21:00.following. What is Labour's policy? We set out four play-test and we

:21:01. > :21:07.stuck to them and we will be applying them through the process.

:21:08. > :21:13.-- Ball clear tests. The issue around capacity is to be at the

:21:14. > :21:18.forefront. What is your policy? That is what I am explaining. We are

:21:19. > :21:21.running through the four tests to insure that we address climate

:21:22. > :21:28.change and the admissions process, and that will depend on the option

:21:29. > :21:36.chosen, the impact on noise and also collectivity. Where do you want the

:21:37. > :21:42.runway? -- collectivity. That is what we are waiting to see. But

:21:43. > :21:47.since 1968 and you don't have a policy? With respect, the world has

:21:48. > :21:51.changed. If we look at aerospace capacity, things can move on

:21:52. > :21:55.considerably in terms of how we stack planes, how they are waiting

:21:56. > :21:59.at 7000 beat when they should be at 30,000 feet and not polluting the

:22:00. > :22:06.atmosphere. A whole infrastructure has been built around this. Are you

:22:07. > :22:11.going to stack up claims to 30,000 feet? That is more fuel efficient.

:22:12. > :22:19.They have to come all the way back down again. They are coming from

:22:20. > :22:24.that height anyway. They could stay over BC and be at a more fuel

:22:25. > :22:29.efficient height. -- over the sea. That would make London really

:22:30. > :22:33.attractive, all of those people wanting to invest, stack at 30,000

:22:34. > :22:37.feet, going round in circles when they could lead right away at

:22:38. > :22:46.Frankfurt, Paris. They are stacked at 7000 feet. The argument is that

:22:47. > :22:50.we need another runway. That is the Davies commission argument. We need

:22:51. > :22:57.to use airspace more efficiently than we do. You are shadow -- your

:22:58. > :23:03.Shadow Transport Secretary supports Heathrow. Sadiq Khan supports

:23:04. > :23:07.Gatwick. I ask again, what is Labour policy? We have got people with

:23:08. > :23:15.constituency issues. They are building it in John McDonnell's

:23:16. > :23:21.constituency. He is against it. It is right that MPs scrutinise

:23:22. > :23:27.government proposals. I've presumed that Heathrow was the policy. It is

:23:28. > :23:31.right that we look at capacity issues and scrutinise what the

:23:32. > :23:33.government comes forward with. The government had promised us the

:23:34. > :23:39.environmental impact assessment it is carrying out. We haven't seen

:23:40. > :23:45.that. It is vital that we do. 50,000 people are dying prematurely in our

:23:46. > :23:50.as a result of poor air quality. That is a national scandal. So maybe

:23:51. > :23:54.you should oppose a new runway. We are going to see a different

:23:55. > :24:01.transport system by the time the first bulldozer goes in. So why not

:24:02. > :24:06.oppose a new runway? You have to look at it strategically. So you

:24:07. > :24:10.could oppose a new runway. You have to look at the tests. If the

:24:11. > :24:15.government fails a new test and brings more pollutant Crewe to the

:24:16. > :24:21.environment, we will send them back to do their work. So when Andy

:24:22. > :24:24.McDonnell says the need for more capacity is imperative and

:24:25. > :24:28.overwhelming, but you could still oppose a new runway. How can it be

:24:29. > :24:33.imperative and overwhelming to have more capacity but you say we might

:24:34. > :24:38.oppose it? We don't want to pollute the lungs of the people of London.

:24:39. > :24:43.Clearly the plans would not be affected. So it isn't imperative and

:24:44. > :24:49.overwhelming. Labour need to come to terms with the fact that we need a

:24:50. > :24:55.new runway. We have agreed we need more capacity. Not having a runway

:24:56. > :24:59.wouldn't satisfy the needs. We will leave it there. It only been going

:25:00. > :25:00.on for 50 years still as clear as mud.

:25:01. > :25:03.Now, do you know Boris Johnson speaks five foreign languages?

:25:04. > :25:05.Yes, he's not too rusty in Latin, French, Spanish, Italian

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:25:09. > :25:10.Anyway, languages are a useful skill in a Foreign

:25:11. > :25:26.It will certainly help him on trips abroad.

:25:27. > :25:29.Rather than just shouting slowly at foreigners in England and thinking

:25:30. > :25:32.they will understand. -- in English. But, yesterday, Boris Johnson,

:25:33. > :25:33.the Foreign Secretary in Her Majesty's Government, spoke

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:27:58. > :28:00.Yes, Prime Minister's And that's not all -

:28:01. > :28:12.Laura Kuenssberg is here. Welcome, Laura. On the Heathrow

:28:13. > :28:17.issue, we are proceeding on the assumption there is going to be a

:28:18. > :28:20.third runway at Heathrow at the minimum, but we also thought there

:28:21. > :28:26.would be a vote on that, and the whole business of this year means

:28:27. > :28:29.there won't be. This is what has got people in a tangle. Technically, it

:28:30. > :28:33.isn't a delay because there was always going to be a legalistic

:28:34. > :28:37.planning process, a piece of paper to the House of Commons, it was

:28:38. > :28:41.always going to take a year. However, there was a very clear

:28:42. > :28:46.expectation across Westminster, even among some people who know this area

:28:47. > :28:50.very well, that there would be a vote very swiftly after the Cabinet

:28:51. > :28:55.committee's crunch decision. That will now not take place, so

:28:56. > :29:00.therefore, crucially, the political sign of as absolutely been delayed,

:29:01. > :29:04.and that is what has got some people upset and feeling that Theresa May

:29:05. > :29:09.is fudged it. That it could change. There is also conspiracy theories,

:29:10. > :29:13.that this could be more evidence that Theresa May would like the

:29:14. > :29:17.option of going for a spring election, because you wouldn't want

:29:18. > :29:22.to have Heathrow and issue that could be awkward for the Tory party

:29:23. > :29:27.lingering at a time where you want... That is always denied by

:29:28. > :29:32.anybody close to Theresa May, but it has the air of something that is a

:29:33. > :29:37.bit shaky. What about these stories last week that the government may,

:29:38. > :29:40.in its Britain open for business guys, say that Gatwick should have a

:29:41. > :29:48.second runway as well, largely a private sector investment forced why

:29:49. > :29:51.not expand the big regional airports like Birmingham? And there were

:29:52. > :29:54.suggestions around the fringes of the Tory conference that that would

:29:55. > :29:58.have been something that would have been a green flag to investors, come

:29:59. > :30:04.here, we need to be flying around the. Those suggestions, I think, are

:30:05. > :30:10.still in the play in the longer term but they won't be attached to this

:30:11. > :30:14.particular decision. I'm not sure that they ever were. Perhaps some

:30:15. > :30:17.over exuberance around the fringes where people want to see that kind

:30:18. > :30:24.of strong statement from the government. But not necessarily

:30:25. > :30:33.going to happen. What is Mr Corbyn going to go on? Who knows? There is

:30:34. > :30:36.so much around. Not easy to see a direct hit subject. Indeed. We saw

:30:37. > :30:41.Jeremy Corbyn do something last week, taking the August issue of the

:30:42. > :30:47.day and asking all six questions on Brexit. -- the biggest issue. This

:30:48. > :30:52.week it is hard to see a direct it. It's looking -- were looking for

:30:53. > :30:59.questions from the backbenches, Lisa Nandy, asking Theresa May about the

:31:00. > :31:03.God of enquiry. This is a potential big political enquiry in terms of

:31:04. > :31:08.what is happening with the child abuse enquiry, not just because it

:31:09. > :31:11.has been so messy but because it was Theresa May who instituted this

:31:12. > :31:18.enquiry when she was Home Secretary. Lisa Nandy's question might be worth

:31:19. > :31:21.looking out for, and some other Labour as well, Lucy Powell poor

:31:22. > :31:27.example. With Jeremy Corbyn, it isn't clear what he will go on.

:31:28. > :31:31.Possibly health spending. There was a story yesterday, the cost of the

:31:32. > :31:36.health service. Despite increases in funding, which the government likes

:31:37. > :31:42.to trumpet, for the first time in recent history, the amount spent per

:31:43. > :31:50.patient will be going down. And that is politically charged. That was

:31:51. > :31:56.interesting, that statistic. An interesting situation. Labour has a

:31:57. > :32:00.new Shadow Health Secretary, John Ashworth. Jeremy Corbyn might want

:32:01. > :32:05.to pick it up. It is clear when you take Heathrow, the health service,

:32:06. > :32:11.the Lowell Goddard enquiry farce, if that isn't too strong a word, that

:32:12. > :32:18.Mrs May's honeymoon is over. In the last few days, lots of politicians

:32:19. > :32:21.have said you can pick up a general shakiness about the place, not a

:32:22. > :32:28.time of doom and disaster, not the government having a terrible mess

:32:29. > :32:31.all over the place, but Theresa May's brand of competence,

:32:32. > :32:36.diligence, getting on with the job, the phrase she likes to use, it

:32:37. > :32:45.seems a bit shaky. We will see how shaky it is.

:32:46. > :32:58.Thank you, Mr Speaker, I know everyone will want to join me in

:32:59. > :33:02.remembering those affected by Aberfan in which 116 children lost

:33:03. > :33:06.their lives. It caused devastation to the community, it is like that

:33:07. > :33:10.would reflect on this important anniversary and recognise the

:33:11. > :33:14.solidarity and resilience of the people of Aberfan to overcome this

:33:15. > :33:17.tragedy. Mr Speaker this morning I had meetings with ministerial

:33:18. > :33:24.colleagues and others and I will have further such meetings today in

:33:25. > :33:29.addition to my duties in this House. Mr Speaker, may I associate myself

:33:30. > :33:33.with the sentiments of the Prime Minister, I am of an age to remember

:33:34. > :33:38.those black and white photographs, it affected everyone and we in this

:33:39. > :33:43.House Basson our thoughts today. Mr Speaker, as you might know it is my

:33:44. > :33:47.birthday today! The Prime Minister has already given me a huge birthday

:33:48. > :33:54.present by letting everyone know that we will be at the European

:33:55. > :34:01.union no later than March 31 2019. So could I press her for another

:34:02. > :34:06.present? Her excellent policy of closing Victorian prisons and

:34:07. > :34:14.opening modern ones is a spot on policy. Would she support the

:34:15. > :34:22.reopening of Wellingborough prison, as part of this excellent programme,

:34:23. > :34:27.or would she rather just think Happy Birthday? I'm very happy to wish my

:34:28. > :34:38.honourable friend happy birthday, I hope that Mrs Bone is going to treat

:34:39. > :34:46.the occasion in an appropriate manner!

:34:47. > :34:54.LAUGHTER Can I... Come out...

:34:55. > :35:02.LAUGHTER Order! I want to hear what is coming

:35:03. > :35:08.next! Prime Minister. Calm down, Mr Speaker! On the issue that he

:35:09. > :35:15.raises, the very serious issue he raises about prisons, I welcome the

:35:16. > :35:19.fact that he applauds the policy that we are following of closing out

:35:20. > :35:23.of date prisons and building new prisons. I hear the lobbying he's

:35:24. > :35:28.made in relation to Wellingborough, I assure him that it is one of those

:35:29. > :35:31.sites being considered but the Secretary of State will look at this

:35:32. > :35:38.very carefully and make an announcement in due course. Jeremy

:35:39. > :35:42.Corbyn. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I join with the Prime Minister in

:35:43. > :35:47.commemorating the disaster of Aberfan all those years ago when 118

:35:48. > :35:51.children died, along with many adults at that time. Many in that

:35:52. > :35:55.community are still living with that tragedy and they will live with that

:35:56. > :36:00.tragedy for the rest of their days. I remember it well as a young person

:36:01. > :36:04.growing up at that time and watching collections for the disaster fund. I

:36:05. > :36:09.think the BBC documentary presented by Hugh Edwards last night was

:36:10. > :36:15.brilliant and poignant and serves to remind us all of what the disaster

:36:16. > :36:19.was about. Mr Speaker, one in four of us will suffer mental health

:36:20. > :36:23.problem, analysis by the Kings fund suggests that 40% of mental health

:36:24. > :36:29.trusts had their budgets cut last year and six have seen their budgets

:36:30. > :36:35.cut for three years in a row. As the Prime Minister really confident that

:36:36. > :36:39.we are delivering parity for mental health? May I first say to the right

:36:40. > :36:43.honourable gentleman that I am also of an age where I remember those

:36:44. > :36:50.terrible scenes on television of what happened in Aberfan. I did not

:36:51. > :36:53.see the whole of the documentary by Huw Edwards but the bits I saw I

:36:54. > :36:57.thought were very poignant as the right honourable gentleman said. And

:36:58. > :37:01.it is interesting that it showed again the issue of those in power

:37:02. > :37:07.not being willing to step up to the plate initially, and accept what had

:37:08. > :37:12.happened. Obviously the result of the enquiry was very clear about

:37:13. > :37:16.where responsibility lay. In relation to the mental health

:37:17. > :37:19.services it is right that we are introducing parity of esteem for

:37:20. > :37:23.mental health in the National Health Service. We have been waiting to

:37:24. > :37:29.come at long for this. It is important that it is being done. But

:37:30. > :37:33.we are investing more in mental health services, an estimated record

:37:34. > :37:37.?11.7 billion. Particularly increasing the number of children's

:37:38. > :37:41.beds overall to the highest number in relation to mental health

:37:42. > :37:46.problems. I think this is important. There is of course more for us to do

:37:47. > :37:49.in looking at mental health but we have made an important start and

:37:50. > :37:56.that funding will be there, as I say. Jeremy Corbyn. Mr Speaker, I

:37:57. > :37:59.have a letter from Colin, a family member office has a chronic mental

:38:00. > :38:04.health condition and he like many others with relatives going through

:38:05. > :38:09.this kind of crisis says this, the NHS is so dramatically underfunded

:38:10. > :38:12.that so often it is left to the underfunded police forces to deal

:38:13. > :38:16.with the consequence of this crisis. Indeed achieve Constable of Devon

:38:17. > :38:21.and Cornwall as this month threatened legal action against the

:38:22. > :38:25.NHS because he is forced to hold people with mental conditions in

:38:26. > :38:30.police cells because there are not enough and beds. I simply ask the

:38:31. > :38:34.Prime Minister this. If the government is committed to parity of

:38:35. > :38:40.esteem why is this trust and so many others facing an acute financial

:38:41. > :38:44.crisis at present? Prime Minister. Can I say to Colin and that we all

:38:45. > :38:49.in this House recognise the difficulty that people have when

:38:50. > :38:53.they are coping with mental health problems and, I commend those in

:38:54. > :38:57.this house who have been prepared to stand up and referred to their own

:38:58. > :39:01.mental health problems. That has been an important signal to people

:39:02. > :39:05.with mental health issues across the country. He raises the question of

:39:06. > :39:09.the interaction between the NHS and police forces. I'm very proud of the

:39:10. > :39:12.fact that when I was secretary I worked with the Department of Health

:39:13. > :39:22.to bring a change to the way in which police forces were dealing

:39:23. > :39:25.with people in mental health prices so that we see those triage pilots

:39:26. > :39:28.out on the street, we see better NHS support being given to police forces

:39:29. > :39:32.so the number of people who are having to be taken to a police cell

:39:33. > :39:36.is a place of safety in some areas, overall it has more than halved, in

:39:37. > :39:40.some areas it has come down by even more than that. This is a result of

:39:41. > :39:47.the action that this government has taken. Jeremy Corbyn. Mr Speaker the

:39:48. > :39:50.reality is that no one with a mental health condition should ever be

:39:51. > :39:55.taken to a police cell. They should be supported in the proper way. I do

:39:56. > :39:59.commend those Police and Crime Commissioner 's that have ended that

:40:00. > :40:03.practice in the areas but the reality is that it isn't just Devon

:40:04. > :40:07.and Cornwall suffering cuts, Norfolk and Suffolk mental health trust has

:40:08. > :40:13.had a cut for every one of its last three years and I agree with the

:40:14. > :40:15.Prime Minister that members of this House openly discussing mental

:40:16. > :40:21.health issues they have had is a great thing because we do need to

:40:22. > :40:26.end the stigma surrounding these conditions across the whole country.

:40:27. > :40:32.But NHS trusts are in a financial crisis. According to NHS providers

:40:33. > :40:36.it seems to be the worst financial crisis in NHS history, 80% of

:40:37. > :40:46.hospitals no endeavours that. There was a time in 2010 when the NHS was

:40:47. > :40:49.in surplus. What has happened? The Prime Minister. I would like to

:40:50. > :40:56.remind him that what has happened with NHS funding is this. We asked

:40:57. > :41:00.the NHS themselves to come up with a five-year plan and say what extra

:41:01. > :41:04.funding was needed to deliver on it. They came up with a five-year plan

:41:05. > :41:08.led by Simon Stevens as chief executive of the NHS. He said it was

:41:09. > :41:14.?8 billion that was needed and we are giving ?10 billion of extra

:41:15. > :41:20.funding to the and adjust. And I might remind the right honourable

:41:21. > :41:23.gentleman that, at the last election, it wasn't the Conservative

:41:24. > :41:32.Party that was refusing to guarantee funding for the NHS, it was the

:41:33. > :41:39.Labour Party! Mr Speaker come in six years, the NHS has gone from surplus

:41:40. > :41:46.to its worst crisis. ?3 billion was wasted on top-down reorganisation

:41:47. > :41:49.and no one wanted and yesterday at the select committee Simon Stevens

:41:50. > :41:52.made it clear that he does not believe that NHS England has enough

:41:53. > :41:59.money to get through the crisis it is facing. Can I offer an analysis

:42:00. > :42:02.from the Care Quality Commission which seemed to have quite a good

:42:03. > :42:10.grasp of what's happening. They save at cuts to adult social care, and I

:42:11. > :42:13.quote, translating to increased A E attendances, emergency missions

:42:14. > :42:17.and delays to people leaving hospital which in turn is affecting

:42:18. > :42:21.the ability of a growing number of trusts to meet their performances

:42:22. > :42:29.and their natural targets, will the Prime Minister also addressed the

:42:30. > :42:38.reckless, counter-productive cuts made. You could Simon Stevens. The

:42:39. > :42:42.time of the Autumn Statement last November he said that their case for

:42:43. > :42:45.the NHS had been hurt actively supported. The right honourable

:42:46. > :42:51.gentleman raises the question of social care and the interaction

:42:52. > :42:55.between health and social care. Over ?5 billion extra was put into the

:42:56. > :43:00.better care of and precisely to deal with these issues. Local authorities

:43:01. > :43:06.are able to raise about 2% of council tax to deal with social care

:43:07. > :43:10.costs that they face. But what is important is the health service and

:43:11. > :43:14.local authorities working together to ensure that they are delivering

:43:15. > :43:19.the best possible service for people who require that social care. I saw

:43:20. > :43:25.a good example of that at Salford Royal on Monday. I want to see more

:43:26. > :43:28.such examples across the NHS, delivering for patients. We have put

:43:29. > :43:37.the funding in. His party would not have done that. We have seen better

:43:38. > :43:41.care for patient Mikes. We all want the government and the local NHS to

:43:42. > :43:46.work well together but the problem is that local government funding has

:43:47. > :43:50.been cut, 400,000 fewer people are receiving publicly funded social

:43:51. > :43:55.care as a consequence, the NHS is having trouble coping with the

:43:56. > :43:59.crisis, therefore, unfortunately there is bed blocking, where acute

:44:00. > :44:02.patients cannot leave because there is no social care available for them

:44:03. > :44:08.down the line. The issue is the funding crisis in the NHS and in

:44:09. > :44:13.local government. The published figures by the NHS Trust show that

:44:14. > :44:20.the total deficit is 2.45 billion but the chief executive says this

:44:21. > :44:22.figure may even be bigger. The government disguises the extent of

:44:23. > :44:37.the crisis through temporary bailouts. They are bailing out, and

:44:38. > :44:43.trust in a crisis, that is not a bad thing but why are they in a crisis

:44:44. > :44:48.in the first place? -- bailing out of trust in a crisis. Next month, Mr

:44:49. > :44:54.Speaker, sustainability and transformation plans are going be

:44:55. > :44:58.published. Many, all over the country, are alarmed by this,

:44:59. > :45:03.because of the threat to accident and emergency departments. Can the

:45:04. > :45:11.Prime Minister deal with this issue now by simply saying there will be

:45:12. > :45:12.no downgrades and no closures of A E departments in the statement next

:45:13. > :45:22.month? Over the course of this Parliament,

:45:23. > :45:28.the government will be spending over half ?1 trillion on the NHS. That is

:45:29. > :45:32.a record level of investment in our National Health Service. But there

:45:33. > :45:36.is a key difference between the way he approaches this and the way that

:45:37. > :45:40.I do. We believe on this side of the house that, at local level, people

:45:41. > :45:45.should be able to make decisions about the NHS, that decisions should

:45:46. > :45:49.be led by clinicians, that it shouldn't be top-down, which is a

:45:50. > :46:02.prep -- which is typical of the Labour Party. Well, Mr Speaker,

:46:03. > :46:07.top-down is what we got. And it cost ?3 billion for a reorganisation that

:46:08. > :46:11.nobody wanted at all. Mr Speaker, I started by asking the Prime Minister

:46:12. > :46:18.about parity of esteem. All this government has produced is parity of

:46:19. > :46:22.failure. Failing mental health patients, failing elderly people who

:46:23. > :46:26.need social care, failing the 4 million on the NHS waiting list,

:46:27. > :46:32.wailing five times as many people waiting more than four hours at A

:46:33. > :46:37.departments, and another winter crisis is looming. The society of

:46:38. > :46:41.acute medicines is it right, I think, when it says, this funding

:46:42. > :46:49.crisis and the local government funding crisis is leaving the NHS on

:46:50. > :46:55.its knees. What has happened in the NHS over the last six years? More

:46:56. > :46:58.patients being treated, more calls to the Ambulance Service, more

:46:59. > :47:04.operations, more doctors, more nurses. That is what has been

:47:05. > :47:08.happening in the NHS. But let's just look at what his party's approach to

:47:09. > :47:13.the NHS is. A former Shadow Health Secretary said, it would be

:47:14. > :47:19.irresponsible to put more money into the NHS. A former leader of the

:47:20. > :47:32.Labour Party wanted to recognise the NHS. -- weapon ise. At every

:47:33. > :47:36.election, the Labour Party claims that the Tories will cut NHS

:47:37. > :47:41.spending. After every election, we increase NHS spending. At every

:47:42. > :47:47.election, Labour claim that the Tories will privatise the NHS. At

:47:48. > :47:53.every election, indictment, we have protected the NHS. -- in government.

:47:54. > :47:55.There is only one party that has cut funding for the NHS, the Labour

:47:56. > :48:11.Party in Wales. Thank you, Mr Speaker. If the Prime

:48:12. > :48:13.Minister aware that research shows that infrastructure investment most

:48:14. > :48:19.benefits area is prepared to capitalise on it, with new

:48:20. > :48:23.associated possibilities in housing, skills and jobs? Will she ensure

:48:24. > :48:28.that current opportunities are taken for inward investment to preserve

:48:29. > :48:31.and we energise essential national industries, like one in the Yeovil

:48:32. > :48:41.area, as we seek to capitalise on the dualling of the A303? My

:48:42. > :48:45.honourable friend is right. We are investing in infrastructure like the

:48:46. > :48:50.A303. It is important that local communities embrace those

:48:51. > :48:52.opportunities. I know that my honourable friend has been putting

:48:53. > :48:56.together ideas for Yeovil and I'm sure he will share those with Mike

:48:57. > :49:01.right honourable friend, the Communities Secretary. I joined the

:49:02. > :49:05.Prime Minister and the leader of the Labour Party in remembering the

:49:06. > :49:09.Aberfan disaster at my thoughts are with everybody affected. Thousands

:49:10. > :49:13.of innocent civilians have now been killed by Saudi air strikes in

:49:14. > :49:19.Yemen. Can the Prime Minister give the house assurance that those

:49:20. > :49:24.civilians have not been killed by pave way missiles, partially

:49:25. > :49:29.manufactured in Scotland, under licence from her government in Saudi

:49:30. > :49:35.Arabia? I congratulate the right honourable gentleman on his election

:49:36. > :49:40.as deputy leader of the SNP. I say to him, as he knows, we have one of

:49:41. > :49:46.the toughest regimes in the world in relation to arms exports. When these

:49:47. > :49:50.allegations arise, we have been pressing, I have pressed in the past

:49:51. > :49:56.and my right honourable friend the Foreign Secretary has pressed the

:49:57. > :50:01.Foreign Secretary, and the Saudi government investigate and learn

:50:02. > :50:07.lessons. It is beyond doubt that the Saudi air force is bombing Yemen,

:50:08. > :50:12.flying planes made in Britain, by pilots trained by Britain and

:50:13. > :50:16.dropping missiles made in Britain. I asked her a direct question and she

:50:17. > :50:20.couldn't answer it. Can she give this house and the assurance that

:50:21. > :50:26.civilians have not been killed by Paveway 4 bombs being dropped on

:50:27. > :50:31.Yemen which are partially manufactured in Scotland under

:50:32. > :50:36.licence by the government? If she doesn't know the answer to that

:50:37. > :50:41.question, how can she possibly in good conscience continue selling

:50:42. > :50:46.them to Saudi Arabia? In response to the right honourable gentleman, the

:50:47. > :50:49.point I made was simple. We press for proper investigations into what

:50:50. > :50:53.has happened on those incidents before we reach a decision or

:50:54. > :50:57.conclusion on what has happened in relation to those incidents. We have

:50:58. > :51:02.a very strong elation chip with Saudi Arabia. It is for this country

:51:03. > :51:05.in terms of dealing with counterterrorism and a number of

:51:06. > :51:08.other issues. What matters when incidents happen which caused

:51:09. > :51:17.concern is that they are properly investigated. A few weeks ago, I

:51:18. > :51:22.thought I'd successfully bought four tickets online for one of my

:51:23. > :51:27.favourite bands, Green Day, only to be told the tickets were unavailable

:51:28. > :51:31.and the gig sold out. Within minutes, I could buy the tickets on

:51:32. > :51:36.another site for twice the price. It turned out the ticket site had been

:51:37. > :51:41.the victim of an attack by organised cats who resold the ticket inflated

:51:42. > :51:45.prices. We'll the Prime Minister asked her ministers to give close

:51:46. > :51:50.consideration to my amendment to be Digital economy act which would make

:51:51. > :51:54.the computerised harvesting of tickets for resale in offence?

:51:55. > :51:57.Similar legislation exists elsewhere and it would go a long way to

:51:58. > :52:03.protecting consumers and genuine music fans. I think my honourable

:52:04. > :52:06.friends for raising this issue. I'm sure he isn't the only member of the

:52:07. > :52:12.spouse who has had that experience and certainly not the only person,

:52:13. > :52:17.as people will know from their constituency mailbags, to have had

:52:18. > :52:22.this experience. As part of the consumer rights act, a review of

:52:23. > :52:25.online ticket sales was introduced. Professor Michael Waterson

:52:26. > :52:28.introduced a report on that. It has produced a number of

:52:29. > :52:32.recommendations, some for the industry to be able to better

:52:33. > :52:34.protect itself, but the government will be looking at the

:52:35. > :52:43.recommendations of that very carefully to see what can be done to

:52:44. > :52:48.address the issue he talks about. The child abuse enquiry needs to

:52:49. > :52:51.regain the trust of survivors. In September, the Home Secretary said

:52:52. > :52:54.she had no information about Syria's leadership failings but on Monday

:52:55. > :52:58.she told the house she had known about serious problems since July.

:52:59. > :53:04.Yesterday it emerged that senior home of this -- Home Office

:53:05. > :53:10.officials were briefed in April this year. She set up the enquiry and

:53:11. > :53:13.pointed the chair. She was the individual responsible for the

:53:14. > :53:18.enquiry's success. She was the Home Secretary in April and she was the

:53:19. > :53:23.only person who had the power to act. Can she now finally tell us

:53:24. > :53:29.when she personally learned of the serious problems developing in this

:53:30. > :53:35.enquiry and why it was that she took no action at all? Can I say, I

:53:36. > :53:39.recognise that the honourable lady has taken a particular interest in

:53:40. > :53:44.this issue and I'm sure she will recognise, as I hope other members

:53:45. > :53:51.of this house do, why it is I set up the enquiry. For too long, people

:53:52. > :53:56.who had been to child... For too long, people who had been subjected

:53:57. > :54:01.to child sexual abuse had their voices going unheard and they felt

:54:02. > :54:05.they were not getting justice. That is why it is very important that the

:54:06. > :54:11.enquiry is able to continue and find that justice for them. I have to say

:54:12. > :54:15.to the honourable lady that one of the important aspects of this is

:54:16. > :54:19.that, over the years, too many people have had concerns that people

:54:20. > :54:26.in positions of power have intervened to stop them from getting

:54:27. > :54:29.justice. There were stories around about the enquiry and about

:54:30. > :54:34.individuals related to the enquiry, but the Home Secretary cannot

:54:35. > :54:42.intervene on the basis of suspicion, rumour or hearsay. She refers to the

:54:43. > :54:45.statement made yesterday in this house. She refers to the statement

:54:46. > :54:50.made yesterday in this house about information being discussed with the

:54:51. > :54:55.director-general in the Home Office. She will also have noted that that

:54:56. > :54:59.conversation was asked to be confidential, and as far as I'm

:55:00. > :55:02.aware it was treated as such. I think it is important for us to

:55:03. > :55:08.recognise that, when the Home Office was officially informed of issues,

:55:09. > :55:15.the Home Office acted. It's now for the enquiry to get on and deliver

:55:16. > :55:22.for victims and survivors. Having been born and growing up in south

:55:23. > :55:25.Wales and as a former Secretary of State for Wales, can I associate

:55:26. > :55:30.myself with the heartfelt tributes that have been paid by the front

:55:31. > :55:35.bench to the community of Aberfan and throughout this house. It was a

:55:36. > :55:37.tragedy that was unparalleled and it stunned the world. Can the Prime

:55:38. > :55:43.Minister in her own words step up to the plate and reconfirm her

:55:44. > :55:48.commitment to Wales and to ensuring that her government works with the

:55:49. > :55:52.Welsh government, particularly after leaving the EU, to maintain the

:55:53. > :55:55.levels of investment that so vital to the long-term social and economic

:55:56. > :56:01.development of the valleys communities and rest of Wales? I say

:56:02. > :56:05.to my right honourable friend that, as a former Secretary of State for

:56:06. > :56:10.Wales, she is well aware of the impact the Aberfan disaster at an

:56:11. > :56:14.south Wales and those local communities and, as I said in my

:56:15. > :56:17.opening remarks, these events were tragic and the thoughts of the whole

:56:18. > :56:22.house with those who were affected by them. I can give that commitment

:56:23. > :56:26.she is asking for, of this government to Wales and working with

:56:27. > :56:30.the Welsh government. I am clear this government is going to deliver

:56:31. > :56:37.a country that works for every part of the UK. The Wales Bill will

:56:38. > :56:41.transfer a historic transfer of powers to be Welsh Assembly. It will

:56:42. > :56:45.allow the Welsh government to focus on the job of transforming the Welsh

:56:46. > :56:49.economy, and we are talking to them about how we are going to go forward

:56:50. > :56:53.in relation to negotiations for leaving the EU. Progress today has

:56:54. > :57:02.been very slow. Can I appeal to colleagues to speed up. Much

:57:03. > :57:05.obliged. Can there be a single member of this house who does not

:57:06. > :57:11.have reason to be grateful to those heroes of our high street, the

:57:12. > :57:15.community pharmacist. And can there be any member of the public who is

:57:16. > :57:21.not as bemused as I am by the fact that the government is proposing a

:57:22. > :57:26.12% cut in the community pharmacy budgets, potentially leading to 3000

:57:27. > :57:29.closures? Will be Prime Minister today express her support for

:57:30. > :57:35.community pharmacy and have another look at this divisive, corrosive and

:57:36. > :57:43.destructive proposal? I think everybody in this house recognises

:57:44. > :57:47.the role and contribution of community pharmacies up and down the

:57:48. > :57:53.country, but it's also right that we look at how we are spending NHS

:57:54. > :57:57.money. That is why the government is looking at this issue. If the

:57:58. > :58:00.honourable gentleman supports community pharmacies, perhaps he

:58:01. > :58:04.ought to have a word with his right honourable friend, the Leader of the

:58:05. > :58:10.Opposition, because his policy is to completely nationalised the health

:58:11. > :58:15.system, lock, stock and barrel, GP surgeries, Macmillan nurses and GP

:58:16. > :58:18.pharmacies. Next week, this government will finally make a

:58:19. > :58:22.decision on airport capacity in the south-east, something that eluded

:58:23. > :58:26.three of her predecessors and will help boost trade. Does the Prime

:58:27. > :58:29.Minister agree that on this issue substance matters more? Will she

:58:30. > :58:38.outlined her timetable for indentation? He is right, this month

:58:39. > :58:41.this government will take a decision on the appropriate site for expanded

:58:42. > :58:46.airport capacity in the south-east. This is a subject that's been

:58:47. > :58:50.debated, discussed, speculated on for 40 years. This government will

:58:51. > :58:54.take a decision. But there is a formal process that has to be

:58:55. > :59:00.undertaken, so the government will identify its proposed option

:59:01. > :59:03.off-site -- of sight. That will go to a statutory consultation. The

:59:04. > :59:07.government will consider the results of that and bring forward an

:59:08. > :59:16.airports national planning statement on which this house will vote. Does

:59:17. > :59:19.the Prime Minister agree that any move to close the historic barracks

:59:20. > :59:25.at Fort George would not only be a poor military decision after 250

:59:26. > :59:30.years of service but a betrayal of the Black Watch and a slap in the

:59:31. > :59:34.face to the Highlands? I say to the honourable gentleman that I

:59:35. > :59:38.recognised the strength of the view he has put forward. No decisions on

:59:39. > :59:41.Fort George or other locations have been taken and the Ministry of

:59:42. > :59:45.Defence will engage with all parties impacted by any decisions that it

:59:46. > :59:53.takes of this sort, including in Scotland. My right honourable friend

:59:54. > :59:57.has been expressing some reluctance to submit even the broad plans for

:59:58. > :00:01.future negotiations with the EU to this house because of worries it

:00:02. > :00:06.might weaken her government's negotiating position. As she noticed

:00:07. > :00:12.that this week one or more Brexiteer members of her Cabinet have been

:00:13. > :00:17.briefing the newspapers copiously on every proposal being put forward in

:00:18. > :00:20.papers to be relevant Cabinet committee by their colleagues, and

:00:21. > :00:25.launching political attacks on their Cabinet colleagues, who seemed to

:00:26. > :00:29.disagree with them? Will she take firm action to stop this process,

:00:30. > :00:35.and will she also agree that the proper approach is Parliamentary

:00:36. > :00:40.scrutiny of the broad strategy once the government has reached agreement

:00:41. > :00:43.on what it should be? I say to my right honourable friend that the

:00:44. > :00:48.government is very clear that the vote on June the 23rd was a vote to

:00:49. > :00:52.ensure that we had control of movement of people from the EU into

:00:53. > :00:57.the UK, but also we want to see the best possible access for businesses

:00:58. > :01:00.for trading in goods and services with an operating within that

:01:01. > :01:04.European market. That is what the government will be aiming for and we

:01:05. > :01:08.will be ambitious in that. Parliament will have its say. These

:01:09. > :01:11.are going to be lengthy negotiations over the course of two years or

:01:12. > :01:17.more. Parliament will have its say in a variety of ways, not least in

:01:18. > :01:21.relation to the great repeal bill. Some of my constituents have had

:01:22. > :01:26.their tax credits suddenly stopped by concentric and have been accused

:01:27. > :01:30.of being in a relationship with previous tenants of their homes, who

:01:31. > :01:34.they have never even met. In some cases, they have been accused of

:01:35. > :01:40.being in a relationship with members of their own families and told to

:01:41. > :01:43.prove they are not. This Kafka-esque situation is causing deep distress

:01:44. > :01:49.and hardship among working mothers in my constituency. This is what the

:01:50. > :01:52.Prime Minister means by being on the side of working people? What is she

:01:53. > :01:57.going to do to put it right? The right honourable lady raises an

:01:58. > :02:03.issue which is of concern to members across this house. Making sure that

:02:04. > :02:06.those who are being assessed are being assessed properly and the

:02:07. > :02:10.decisions and right decisions are taken. The Department for Work and

:02:11. > :02:18.Pensions is looking at the process of what should be done and how both

:02:19. > :02:21.assessment should be taken. I say to her that I hoped she would welcome

:02:22. > :02:25.the fact that this government has said that, for those with long-term

:02:26. > :02:29.conditions that are not going to improve, we will not be putting them

:02:30. > :02:41.through the regular assessments they had under her government

:02:42. > :02:43.apprenticeships from EDF has just been launched at the Bridgewater and

:02:44. > :03:22.Taunton college. And we do want to see every

:03:23. > :03:30.generation of nuclear expertise in the industry. The Prime Minister is

:03:31. > :03:35.celebrated her 65th birthday but will not retire. It is her choice.

:03:36. > :03:42.Yet she is denying that same choice to many of my constituents, women

:03:43. > :03:46.like Christina, who has worked every bit as hard as the Prime Minister

:03:47. > :03:52.but will have to now work an extra six years. When will she do the

:03:53. > :03:57.right thing and give these women there transitional... So that they

:03:58. > :04:01.can also make the choices that she has enjoys? The honourable lady

:04:02. > :04:04.knows that we have transition arrangements in place, that action

:04:05. > :04:08.was taken by the government to ensure that the period of time that

:04:09. > :04:14.the pension aged changed would be no more than 18 months compared to the

:04:15. > :04:20.previous timetable and for 81% of women affected by the 2011 change it

:04:21. > :04:25.will be no more than 12 months. Heidi Allen. Thank you, Mr Speaker,

:04:26. > :04:29.the unemployment figures results today are fantastic news yet I worry

:04:30. > :04:33.about the economic volatility that could come as a consequence of

:04:34. > :04:37.Brexit potentially inflation rising and the cost of living going up for

:04:38. > :04:40.people on modest wages, does the Prime Minister agree we need to keep

:04:41. > :04:44.as many people in a plummet as possible and need to make the right

:04:45. > :04:47.decision of tax credits, could I urge you to look at those cuts

:04:48. > :04:55.embedded in universal credit and make sure we know what it will do to

:04:56. > :05:01.people trying to get work in this Autumn Statement. My right

:05:02. > :05:05.honourable friend is right say this, I'm very proud of the record that

:05:06. > :05:08.the government has over the last six years of getting more people into

:05:09. > :05:13.work so that there are now hundreds of thousands fewer households with

:05:14. > :05:17.no work income coming into the household. That is extremely

:05:18. > :05:22.important and the point of universal credit is to be able to ensure that

:05:23. > :05:28.the transition from benefits into work as a transition that means that

:05:29. > :05:32.people do have benefit if they are out of work rows this system means

:05:33. > :05:36.that for some people there were better off on benefits, we want to

:05:37. > :05:44.see people in work and that is a system is there to encourage. Mr

:05:45. > :05:49.Speaker been asking questions for 15 months and this government is

:05:50. > :05:53.appalling to child policy and rape close, from one feminist to another

:05:54. > :05:57.how can the Prime Minister justify putting vulnerable women to the

:05:58. > :06:02.trauma of proving that the third child has been born as a result of

:06:03. > :06:06.rape? We have been very clear that women with a third child as a result

:06:07. > :06:11.of rape would not be subject to the limit being considered in relation

:06:12. > :06:19.to benefits. I absolutely recognise that the honourable lady is making a

:06:20. > :06:23.point on how this would affect individuals who have been through

:06:24. > :06:27.the trauma of rape. That is why the government is taking its time, is

:06:28. > :06:30.considering this, consulting on this at the moment and looking at how we

:06:31. > :06:38.can make sure we do this in the right way. Sir who goes quiet. Thank

:06:39. > :06:41.you, Mr Speaker, given the increasing relevance of the

:06:42. > :06:44.Commonwealth in terms of trade were the Prime Minister give her support

:06:45. > :06:47.to the first ever meeting of Commonwealth trade ministers in the

:06:48. > :06:52.UK next year and will she commit when she goes to India next month to

:06:53. > :07:00.persuade the Indian Prime Minister to attend in the UK in 2018? I am

:07:01. > :07:06.happy to encourage all leaders to attend the event when it takes place

:07:07. > :07:08.in the UK. I can assure my right honourable friend that we are

:07:09. > :07:12.looking at the possibility of trade deals in relation to the

:07:13. > :07:16.Commonwealth and I to applaud that first ever meeting of Commonwealth

:07:17. > :07:20.trade metres which is an important step as we look to forging a new

:07:21. > :07:30.global role in the world, ensuring we are making a success of trading

:07:31. > :07:34.around the world. Local authorities are clear that the removal of 24

:07:35. > :07:37.hour maternity services in my area will cost lives and this is a

:07:38. > :07:41.decision the government will have to make. Will the Prime Minister please

:07:42. > :07:45.commit to visiting my constituency to see the effect of the decision

:07:46. > :07:52.upon West Cumbrian families and children. I say to the honourable

:07:53. > :07:55.gentleman, this is not the first time he's raised his concerns in

:07:56. > :07:59.relation to this hospital. Can I say that the point of the way in which

:08:00. > :08:03.we are approaching this is that decisions are taken and generated

:08:04. > :08:06.from the local level. It is at the local level that they will look for

:08:07. > :08:11.services necessary to people to ensure they can provide the services

:08:12. > :08:17.needed and safe services for people of his constituency and other parts

:08:18. > :08:22.of Cumbria. Sir Robert Neill. The tragic murder of one prisoner and

:08:23. > :08:25.the critical winding of two others in Pentonville prison last might

:08:26. > :08:29.bring some start to the declining safety and presence. Will the Prime

:08:30. > :08:32.Minister give the Secretary of State for Justice full support in

:08:33. > :08:39.commissioning a thorough and complete review of the operational,

:08:40. > :08:43.managerial capacity of leadership of the service which has signally

:08:44. > :08:48.failed to arrest this declining situation? This is a matter which is

:08:49. > :08:52.one of the very first issue is that my right honourable friend the

:08:53. > :08:55.Justice Secretary raised with me which was the question of violence

:08:56. > :08:59.in prisons and safety in prisons. That is why my right honourable

:09:00. > :09:05.friend is looking across-the-board and the action needed to be taken

:09:06. > :09:08.and has announced extra money to the staff in prisons because she

:09:09. > :09:14.recognises the importance of this issue. Lucy Powell. Thank you Mr

:09:15. > :09:17.Speaker, one in every 1000 pupils has three meals in grammar schools.

:09:18. > :09:24.Does the Prime Minister agree with me that this tiny number is flimsy

:09:25. > :09:26.evidence base on which to create a new national schools policy.

:09:27. > :09:31.Watching the better looking at the real evidence of how we reduce

:09:32. > :09:36.inequality in education? -- would she not be better looking about? I

:09:37. > :09:40.want to see every child getting the education right for them, every

:09:41. > :09:45.child able to get on as far as their talents and hard work will them.

:09:46. > :09:55.That is why we need to increase the number of good schools in this

:09:56. > :09:58.country. If you look at the gap in attainment between those who are

:09:59. > :10:02.from disadvantaged backgrounds and those not in grammar schools it is

:10:03. > :10:08.virtually zero. That's not the same in other schools. I say to the

:10:09. > :10:14.honourable lady that I think it is wrong that we have a system in this

:10:15. > :10:18.country where we have a law that prevents the opening or expansion of

:10:19. > :10:26.good schools, that is what we will get rid of. Pauline Latham. Will the

:10:27. > :10:32.premise to work with her secretaries of state to try to reduce the amount

:10:33. > :10:36.of ivory trade and trade of endangered species throughout the

:10:37. > :10:41.world, to try to lead by example from this country? My honourable

:10:42. > :10:45.friend raises an important issue, this is something the government has

:10:46. > :10:51.been taken up and I can assure her not only has my right honourable

:10:52. > :10:53.friend the Foreign Secretary heard them that has promoted that this is

:10:54. > :11:01.an issue the government will take up. The pottery industry is

:11:02. > :11:05.witnessing a modest Renaissance partly through EU exports and action

:11:06. > :11:08.on Chinese ceramic dumping. The previous prime ministers said he

:11:09. > :11:12.would make sure that the ceramic industry's voice is heard and we

:11:13. > :11:17.would get a good negotiation. What is this Prime Minister doing to make

:11:18. > :11:21.sure that Stoke-on-Trent ceramic manufacturers maintain tariff free

:11:22. > :11:27.access to the EU and a level playing field in the face of protectionist

:11:28. > :11:30.dumping? I say to the honourable gentleman that I am pleased to

:11:31. > :11:37.welcome the Renaissance in the ceramics industry that he refers to.

:11:38. > :11:40.His constituency has a long-standing history and tradition in ceramics.

:11:41. > :11:43.What are we doing as we go through the negotiations were leaving the

:11:44. > :11:47.European Union we will ensure that this country has the best possible

:11:48. > :11:55.access to trade with and operate within that European market. That is

:11:56. > :11:59.what people want. Many constituents have expressed concern to me of

:12:00. > :12:04.anti-Semitism. I'm sure that every member of this House will agree that

:12:05. > :12:12.we should show its zero tolerance. Does the Prime Minister also agree

:12:13. > :12:17.that all parties should not allow a situation to arise where it appears

:12:18. > :12:21.that an environment is created when anti-Semitism is tolerated?

:12:22. > :12:26.Liverpool Prime Minister? I absolutely agree with my honourable

:12:27. > :12:30.friend that this House should send a clear message that we won't tolerate

:12:31. > :12:33.anti-Semitism. I have been concerned about the rise we have seen in the

:12:34. > :12:39.number of anti-Semitic incidents in this country. We should ensure that

:12:40. > :12:41.those incidents are properly investigated and dealt with and give

:12:42. > :12:48.that clear message that we want tolerated. But that has to be every

:12:49. > :12:52.political party in this chamber. And I ask the right honourable

:12:53. > :12:56.gentleman, the Leader of the Opposition, given the report of the

:12:57. > :12:59.select committee of this House about anti-Semitism and the approach to

:13:00. > :13:02.anti-Semitism in the Labour Party, he needs to think very carefully

:13:03. > :13:08.about the environment being created in the Labour Party in relation to

:13:09. > :13:16.anti-Semitism. Andy Burnham. We are one such man and -- we one month

:13:17. > :13:20.from the inquest into the Birmingham pub bombings, the west midlands fund

:13:21. > :13:25.has a fund of ?1 million yet the bereaved families have no legal

:13:26. > :13:29.funding. This is a shameful state of affairs. Please intervene and show

:13:30. > :13:32.the Birmingham families the same compassion that was shown to the

:13:33. > :13:36.Hillsborough families. The right honourable gentleman may be aware

:13:37. > :13:40.that the Birmingham families have been encouraged to apply and I

:13:41. > :13:44.believe they have applied to the legal aid fund for the exceptional

:13:45. > :13:49.funds. That was as I understand what happened after the 7/7 bombings. The

:13:50. > :13:53.Home Secretary has made clear her expectation that funding will be

:13:54. > :14:00.provided. We await the decision from the legal aid fund. We hope that

:14:01. > :14:05.decision be for certificate. -- will be positive. Why build a new runway

:14:06. > :14:11.at Heathrow when we could deliver one at Gatwick for a fraction of the

:14:12. > :14:14.time and the cost. May I assure my right honourable friend that no

:14:15. > :14:18.decision has been taken on the site of airport expansion on the

:14:19. > :14:22.south-east. As she will know from her previous background that Davis

:14:23. > :14:30.commission said that airport capacity should be expected, the

:14:31. > :14:35.Davis commission identified three sites all of which they said would

:14:36. > :14:40.be credible and deliverable. I feel it is fitting that we finish with a

:14:41. > :14:43.question from Mr Gerard Jones. Could I first thank the Prime Minister and

:14:44. > :14:48.the Leader of the Opposition and other members for their comments on

:14:49. > :14:53.the Aberfan disaster and the resilience and quiet dignity shown

:14:54. > :14:56.by the people of Aberfan. On Friday morning at 915, on the anniversary

:14:57. > :15:00.of the disaster the people of that community along with communities of

:15:01. > :15:04.Wales will mark that disaster with one minute's silence. Could I ask

:15:05. > :15:08.the Prime Minister if she would support that moment of silence being

:15:09. > :15:12.marked as the disaster affected communities across the country, if

:15:13. > :15:18.not the world, that that moment of silence be marked across the UK. I

:15:19. > :15:22.say to the honourable gentleman, I know the Secretary of State for

:15:23. > :15:26.Wales will attend the memorial in his constituency on Friday. I think

:15:27. > :15:29.it is appropriate that we all mark and show our respect for those who

:15:30. > :15:35.lost their lives and the families who suffered as a result of the

:15:36. > :15:41.tragedy that took place 50 years ago in Aberfan. It was, as we said

:15:42. > :15:43.earlier, terrible tragedy not just for families but for community and I

:15:44. > :15:55.think it is right that we recognise Prime Minister's Questions comes to

:15:56. > :16:01.an end. I think that maybe a record for us. It started a bit late, but

:16:02. > :16:05.it is only quarter to one now. Jeremy Corbyn began with a specific

:16:06. > :16:09.question about spending on mental health, about budgets being cut, but

:16:10. > :16:13.he then moved on and, as a consequence, he gave an example of

:16:14. > :16:17.people being held in police cells because there was no room in

:16:18. > :16:20.hospitals, but he then moved onto the more general issue of health

:16:21. > :16:24.funding and whether, despite the rise is the government says its

:16:25. > :16:27.making, it was enough to cope with the demand. There were a number of

:16:28. > :16:33.exchanges between the Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition on

:16:34. > :16:37.that. There were also two other developments. Angus Robertson for

:16:38. > :16:40.the SNP asked the Prime Minister if she could be sure that the civilians

:16:41. > :16:45.who'd been killed in bombing in Yemen why Saudi Arabian air force

:16:46. > :16:52.had not been done so by British missiles. It isn't clear what the

:16:53. > :16:55.Prime Minister's answer was. It was clear she didn't really know. Quite

:16:56. > :17:00.a hard question but she couldn't answer it. Lisa Nandy, a backbench

:17:01. > :17:05.Labour MP, asked about the Goddard enquiry into child abuse, which has

:17:06. > :17:11.been surrounded by controversy, with the New Zealand judge resigning, yet

:17:12. > :17:15.another, and we are on to the fourth judge now. The Prime Minister said

:17:16. > :17:21.she had heard rumours that all was not well but that it was not her job

:17:22. > :17:27.to act on rumours when she was Home Secretary. I think that will not be

:17:28. > :17:34.the end of it. We may see where that goes from here. We will hear from

:17:35. > :17:37.our panel in a minute. For that, let's get some e-mails. Viewers

:17:38. > :17:41.picked up on the debate at the dispatch box about health spending.

:17:42. > :17:46.Jeffery says, while both the Prime Minister and Mr Corbyn are right to

:17:47. > :17:51.be concerned in regard to the issue of mental health, I wish they'd stop

:17:52. > :17:54.using the best health system in the world as a political football. Alan

:17:55. > :17:59.said, isn't it time there was a review into what services the NHS

:18:00. > :18:03.should and shouldn't provide instead of continuously throwing money at

:18:04. > :18:08.it. John from Leeds said, surprised to hear the Prime Minister during

:18:09. > :18:11.the word top-down justifying her own government's action, but whatever is

:18:12. > :18:16.spent on the NHS will never be enough and the sooner the government

:18:17. > :18:22.-- the sooner Labour start admitting this the better. Mrs May on rocky

:18:23. > :18:26.ground, says Ian from Altrincham. They have funded the NHS but they

:18:27. > :18:32.have cut social care meaning the NHS is having to deal with things that

:18:33. > :18:36.social -- local authorities should Peter says, Corbyn had a good PMQs.

:18:37. > :18:42.The gloss is falling of the Prime Minister at a rate of knots. We've

:18:43. > :18:47.only got about five minutes. Lots of tricky issues, Theresa May with lots

:18:48. > :18:54.of things saying, a decision will be taken later or I can't give you

:18:55. > :19:00.those details. Two Pandora's box -- boxes. Theresa May implied that she

:19:01. > :19:04.had been told something of the problems with the Goddard enquiry

:19:05. > :19:09.into historical child abuse. She said she couldn't act on hearsay,

:19:10. > :19:12.rumour or suspicion, but that was a tacit admission and it will be

:19:13. > :19:14.interesting to see how that is clarified during the day that she

:19:15. > :19:21.knew something of what was going wrong. It was her enquiry. Second,

:19:22. > :19:26.this may have been a Mr big, as it is sometimes known but, when was

:19:27. > :19:29.asked about Brexit, she said there would be lengthy negotiations over

:19:30. > :19:35.the course of two years, talking about Article 50, and more. That has

:19:36. > :19:39.set a hare running. Did the prime ministers sit -- give away her view

:19:40. > :19:43.that it will take more than two years, or was it just said in the

:19:44. > :19:48.heat of the moment? I think that is something that we will be trying to

:19:49. > :19:51.get the bottom of whether she was implying that the whole process,

:19:52. > :19:57.congregated, tricky, tortuous, is going to take longer than two years.

:19:58. > :20:04.It can take longer unless all other 27 members agree. Yes, it's up to

:20:05. > :20:09.the other member states to vote. It's a complicated issue. Comment on

:20:10. > :20:15.PMQs as a whole, is often theatre, but this was a good PMQs with lots

:20:16. > :20:18.of important questions. On the Brexit aspect, the Prime Minister

:20:19. > :20:22.made it very clear that we will work hard for the best possible access

:20:23. > :20:27.for our businesses, but also the vote was clear to say that Britain

:20:28. > :20:31.wants to control its borders and that's what we want to work towards.

:20:32. > :20:38.You have just come back from Saudi Arabia. RB Saudis using British

:20:39. > :20:44.defence equipment to bomb civilians in Yemen? -- are the Saudis. That an

:20:45. > :20:49.operational question. We do sell arms to Saudi Arabia. This is a

:20:50. > :20:54.legitimate war taking place, endorsed by the United Nations

:20:55. > :20:57.resolution supporting the president. It's important to recognise that

:20:58. > :21:01.Saudi Arabians have made mistakes but they have also put their hand up

:21:02. > :21:06.to it. We had the Foreign Minister in Parliament, the best place to

:21:07. > :21:10.answer questions, to be held to account, and he made it very clear

:21:11. > :21:14.that we are having difficulties in getting it wrong and we need to get

:21:15. > :21:18.it right but we need British help to make sure that we can correct the

:21:19. > :21:24.errors that have been happening. It an operational matter if it's an

:21:25. > :21:31.error and the Allies in Syria and Iraq made mistakes as well. It's not

:21:32. > :21:36.an operational matter if it's part of the Saudi strategy in the Yemen

:21:37. > :21:40.to bomb civilians. You are right, which is why I went to Riyadh last

:21:41. > :21:44.week to tell them that they need to come out with a report immediately.

:21:45. > :21:47.They did that, it was released at the weekend, and they put their hand

:21:48. > :21:52.up saying it was a breach of standard operating procedures and

:21:53. > :21:54.somebody will fall on their sword. There are now disciplinary actions,

:21:55. > :21:59.support and compensation is coming in to the victims. So they did

:22:00. > :22:06.intentionally bombed... We have made errors as well. Was it an error, was

:22:07. > :22:14.it a mistake? Was it collateral damage? Was it a deliberate attack

:22:15. > :22:21.on civilians? It was a deliberate error made by an individual who

:22:22. > :22:24.needs to be disciplined. So this individual deliberately attacked

:22:25. > :22:27.civilians. There was a choice to breach decisions. Riyadh said the

:22:28. > :22:31.attack shouldn't take place but it did. That is why this report will

:22:32. > :22:37.clarify exactly what's going to happen. It's important that Saudi

:22:38. > :22:41.Arabia, which hasn't been good at communicating these things, is able

:22:42. > :22:44.to come forward not just on this but their outstanding investigations we

:22:45. > :22:51.are all waiting to hear more details on. What was your take on PMQs? I

:22:52. > :22:55.thought it was a good day for Jeremy Corbyn, picking up the NHS, which is

:22:56. > :23:00.clearly in meltdown at the moment. Not only the financial loss, but I

:23:01. > :23:07.was a commissioner for 20 years in the NHS and I know that waiting

:23:08. > :23:12.times have escalated, 44 ambulances, any services, really in crisis. We

:23:13. > :23:16.are about further rationing, further planned cuts to services under these

:23:17. > :23:20.sustainable transformation plans. The reality is that it is the system

:23:21. > :23:24.that broken. The health and social care act put the wrong financial

:23:25. > :23:29.drivers in the system and it drove everybody into A rather than

:23:30. > :23:32.commitment to the community to stop the machine will keep gobbling

:23:33. > :23:37.money. It's about making sure the money goes to the right place. Under

:23:38. > :23:41.this reorganisation, it's going to the most expensive part of the

:23:42. > :23:45.health service, so that is why we have got the crisis. Which is the

:23:46. > :23:51.hospitals. Absolutely, the acute care. I had a mental health hospital

:23:52. > :23:54.shut in my constituency in three working days, so people were spread

:23:55. > :24:00.throughout the region in a mental health crisis. The system has been

:24:01. > :24:03.broken for far too long and we don't see parity. It is there enough

:24:04. > :24:09.standing at the dispatch box saying parity of esteem. We need to see

:24:10. > :24:14.resourcing and care put in an investment into mental health. Sorry

:24:15. > :24:15.to rush in. We need to move on. We are short of time. Laura, to see

:24:16. > :24:18.you. Now, of all the big Brexit issues

:24:19. > :24:21.none has more gravity than its possible impact

:24:22. > :24:23.on Premiership football. Players and managers

:24:24. > :24:25.could not avoid being asked for their thoughts in the wake

:24:26. > :24:27.of the referendum result. Of course, it's hard not to know

:24:28. > :24:30.that it's gone on but it's something that I've not really thought too

:24:31. > :24:33.much about yet. Obviously I'm focusing

:24:34. > :24:35.on the Euros and what's ahead. Nobody I don't think knows

:24:36. > :24:41.what's going to happen. From my point of view,

:24:42. > :24:45.I'm just going to wait and see And then it was around again,

:24:46. > :24:56.around the Brexit decision, things, OK, England,

:24:57. > :24:58.what will happen, and I really, I like giving a sign

:24:59. > :25:04.we are still Europe. Whatever happens, we are still

:25:05. > :25:06.Europe. We are quite different in a lot

:25:07. > :25:10.of things, especially what we eat and so on,

:25:11. > :25:14.but we are really similar. And Brexit is not an issue that has

:25:15. > :25:19.escaped the interest of the creators of the hit computer

:25:20. > :25:22.game Football Manager. Players of the 2017 edition

:25:23. > :25:25.will have to grapple with different Brexit scenarios as part

:25:26. > :25:28.of the game. And its director, Miles

:25:29. > :25:40.Jacobson, joins me now. Why? Because it's important. It's

:25:41. > :25:44.something that will be happening. There's nothing we can do to stop

:25:45. > :25:48.it. The vote has happened, people have spoken, and it will affect

:25:49. > :25:51.football. I don't think people thought about these kind of things

:25:52. > :25:56.before the vote. They didn't have this information. If we can't bring

:25:57. > :26:02.in players from the EU any more and we stick to the current work permit

:26:03. > :26:05.system that we have, it would mean players like N'Golo Kante and

:26:06. > :26:10.Dimitri Payet, two of the best players in the Premier League last

:26:11. > :26:14.season... And most of the high-profile managers. They would

:26:15. > :26:19.not be able to get work permits. We sat and looked at every possible

:26:20. > :26:21.scenario, including soft Brexit scenarios where you can still bring

:26:22. > :26:26.in players through freedom of movement for workers, through too

:26:27. > :26:31.hard Brexit options, where you will be limited to a quota of the number

:26:32. > :26:36.of foreign players you could have in the squad. Is that true? Is that a

:26:37. > :26:41.possible scenario, that we won't be able to get amazing football

:26:42. > :26:45.managers and players on work our midst? It's not my department, but I

:26:46. > :26:51.would be astonished. We can be proud of one of the best leagues in the

:26:52. > :26:55.world. People want to come to the UK because of what happens here. Play

:26:56. > :26:59.this game, but don't use it as a guidance to what EU legislation is

:27:00. > :27:03.all about. We need good players to be able to come here and make sure

:27:04. > :27:07.we retain that position of having the best Premier League in the

:27:08. > :27:14.world. Do you think your players will be interested? By the reaction

:27:15. > :27:20.we have had since we announced it, I think so. Sometimes people don't

:27:21. > :27:25.realise how engage the public are. I think we got an indication from the

:27:26. > :27:30.referendum result. Absolutely. The scenario is in the game. The

:27:31. > :27:39.scenario is in the game of being able to get them. Thank you. Maybe

:27:40. > :27:44.if we had to have more home-grown talent we might have a national team

:27:45. > :27:47.worth its salt. I don't care about football, but I thought I'd throw

:27:48. > :27:48.that out. I thought you were an expert.

:27:49. > :27:51.There's just time to put you out of your misery and give

:27:52. > :28:11.I forget what the giveaway was. It was Maggie Thatcher at the window.

:28:12. > :28:15.With Norman Tebbit. Got you. Rachel, press that red button. You've no

:28:16. > :28:24.idea what will happen. It's not true. You do know. Well done,

:28:25. > :28:31.George. You have won that. I didn't realise it was 1987. Thank you,

:28:32. > :28:35.Miles, for coming in. We will see how your game goes down and which

:28:36. > :28:42.scenario is the most popular. Very educational. Manager of AFC

:28:43. > :28:43.Bournemouth. Some have been doing scenario planning for years.

:28:44. > :28:48.The One O'Clock News is starting over on BBC One now.

:28:49. > :28:52.Jo and I will be here at noon tomorrow with all the big political