:00:00. > :00:07.Good morning from Westminster on an historic day.
:00:08. > :00:11.For 44 years, Britain has been a member of the European Union.
:00:12. > :00:17.Today, the process of withdrawal begins and in two years'
:00:18. > :00:19.time that membership will come to an end.
:00:20. > :00:22.The Prime Minister says it will be a "momentous journey" and promises
:00:23. > :00:31.But with complex negotiations, how will the government navigate its way
:00:32. > :00:32.through? And on the domestic front
:00:33. > :00:34.can Theresa May keep Stay tuned for this
:00:35. > :01:08.Daily Politics special. Welcome to this specially extended
:01:09. > :01:14.Daily Politics on the day Theresa May invokes Article 50
:01:15. > :01:17.of the Lisbon Treaty and begins the formal process of taking
:01:18. > :01:22.the UK out of the EU. Underneath a portrait
:01:23. > :01:26.of our first Prime Minister, our current Prime Minister signs
:01:27. > :01:30.the letter that starts that journey. One small stroke of the pen,
:01:31. > :01:35.one giant leap for the country. Our man in Brussels will deliver
:01:36. > :01:38.the letter by hand to the President It will fire the starting gun
:01:39. > :01:44.on a two-year negotiation period. So will we end up with a deal
:01:45. > :01:48.at the end of it all? Later this morning, the Prime
:01:49. > :01:51.Minister will head to the Commons Immediately afterwards,
:01:52. > :01:55.she will make a statement to MPs and say this is the moment
:01:56. > :01:57.for the country Yes, we'll be here till half past
:01:58. > :02:13.one with all the reaction And with us for the duration
:02:14. > :02:17.are the former Northern Ireland And the former Labour
:02:18. > :02:20.minister, Chris Leslie. Now, it's going to be a busy day -
:02:21. > :02:26.highly choreographed - so JoCo what exactly
:02:27. > :02:31.is the timetable for today? At midday, as usual on Wednesday,
:02:32. > :02:36.it's Prime Minister's Questions. During PMQs, at 12.20,
:02:37. > :02:40.the UK's ambassador to the EU, Sir Tim Barrow, will hand deliver
:02:41. > :02:43.Theresa May's letter to the President of
:02:44. > :02:45.the European Council, Straight after Prime Minister's
:02:46. > :02:51.Questions from about 12:30, Theresa May will make a statement
:02:52. > :02:55.to MPs confirming that the UK's Once Theresa May sits
:02:56. > :03:03.down, from about 12:45, the European Council President,
:03:04. > :03:06.Donald Tusk will make a formal statement acknowledging that Article
:03:07. > :03:09.50 has been triggered. At three o'clock, the group leaders
:03:10. > :03:15.in the European Parliament will meet to discuss the letter
:03:16. > :03:20.and afterwards, Parliament President Antonio Tajani and Parliament Brexit
:03:21. > :03:23.negotiator Guy Verhofstadt will hold At around 4:30, it's expected that
:03:24. > :03:28.European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker will respond
:03:29. > :03:53.formally to the triggering It seems a long time ago. Are you
:03:54. > :03:58.excited? I feel anticipation, I recognise there will be bumps along
:03:59. > :04:01.the way but I feel we will be better off when we leave the European
:04:02. > :04:06.Union, we face a bright future when we leave. The public make their
:04:07. > :04:12.judgment in the referendum and we are seeing the letter, clearly
:04:13. > :04:16.symbolic, and the phoney war, as it were, is finished and we are moving
:04:17. > :04:21.to negotiations. I want to hold those in the Leave campaign to
:04:22. > :04:26.account for the promises they made you are in that campaign. Is it
:04:27. > :04:31.irreversible? I do not think so. By the sounds of it the Justice
:04:32. > :04:34.Secretary Liz Truss said she thought it was not reversible but David
:04:35. > :04:38.Davis said he did not know and there are many others who say there is
:04:39. > :04:44.nothing in the provision of Article 50 that says it cannot be withdrawn.
:04:45. > :04:49.Two years in politics is a very long time but it is important we do not
:04:50. > :04:53.box ourselves into circumstances that could be catastrophic, we
:04:54. > :04:59.should keep options open. Are you sure on this day of days, that it
:05:00. > :05:06.will happen? I am, yes. You hesitated for a minute. Quite often,
:05:07. > :05:11.since it became apparent in the early hours of the 24th of June last
:05:12. > :05:16.year, I felt this sense it was hard to believe it would happen but I am
:05:17. > :05:18.now starting to believe it will happen, we are leaving. We have a
:05:19. > :05:34.lot to talk about. It seems like a lifetime ago since
:05:35. > :05:38.David Cameron announced a date for a referendum on membership of the
:05:39. > :05:44.European Union. A lot has happened since then. Let's take a look. On
:05:45. > :05:49.Monday, I will commence the process set out under our referendum act and
:05:50. > :05:50.go to Parliament and propose the British people decide our future in
:05:51. > :06:12.Europe. The British people have spoken and
:06:13. > :06:31.the answer is we are out. The British people have made a clear
:06:32. > :06:35.decision to take a different path and, as such, I think the country
:06:36. > :06:43.requires fresh leadership to take it in this direction.
:06:44. > :06:50.Brexit means Brexit. Brexit means Brexit. The reason I
:06:51. > :06:54.have been saying Brexit means Brexit is precisely because it does. We
:06:55. > :07:02.want a red, white and blue Brexit. We will make breakfast... Brexit a
:07:03. > :07:03.success! I think it will be Brexit plus, plus, plus, does that make
:07:04. > :07:26.sense? What I am proposing cannot mean
:07:27. > :07:30.membership of the single market. The Supreme Court rules that the
:07:31. > :07:37.government cannot trigger Article 50 without an act of Parliament
:07:38. > :07:41.authorising it to do so. The ayes to the right, 494, the noes
:07:42. > :08:03.to the left, 122. Joining me now former Liberal
:08:04. > :08:08.Democrat leader Paddy Ashdown. Have you come to terms with this yet? Am
:08:09. > :08:12.I disappointed? Of course, have I come to terms with the fact British
:08:13. > :08:18.people have voted to leave, yes I have. Have I come to terms with the
:08:19. > :08:21.fact the government has hijacked the vote for the anti-European
:08:22. > :08:28.prejudices of the Conservative Party and given us a brutal Brexit as far
:08:29. > :08:31.away from the EU as possible, despite a manifesto promise from the
:08:32. > :08:35.Conservatives to stay in the single market, they have removed is. That
:08:36. > :08:42.was a promise within the context of staying in the EU. I don't think it
:08:43. > :08:48.was. If you stay in the EU you have to stay in the single market. It is
:08:49. > :08:52.important you get facts right. They were talking about improving and
:08:53. > :08:56.building on the single market to cover services more, which is why
:08:57. > :09:01.they backed it and within the context of staying. Let's not get
:09:02. > :09:06.into the context. It said bluntly we will stay in the single market. If
:09:07. > :09:11.we stayed in the EU. If we stayed in the EU, you had to stay in the
:09:12. > :09:16.single market. It was not qualified in the way you suggest. Let's put it
:09:17. > :09:22.this way, Mrs May has a mandate to take the country out of the European
:09:23. > :09:26.Union. She has no mandate to take them out of the single market. Many
:09:27. > :09:31.of the Brexiteer is argued we should stay in, such as Daniel Hannan who
:09:32. > :09:35.made a promise along those lines. She had no mandate to take this
:09:36. > :09:39.country to the most extreme form of Brexit as far away from the EU as
:09:40. > :09:43.possible and no mandate to do what she has done which is widened the
:09:44. > :09:48.divisions of a divided country further. Am I coming to terms with
:09:49. > :09:54.the proposition that she has used the vote for exit to put forward
:09:55. > :09:59.which is a proposition as extreme as you can get? No, I haven't and we
:10:00. > :10:02.have to continue to fight that proposition. David Cameron made it
:10:03. > :10:07.clear we would have to lead the single market if we voted to leave
:10:08. > :10:11.and George Osborne made it clear, Michael Gove was explicit, Boris
:10:12. > :10:16.Johnson was explicit we would have to leave. What bit do you not
:10:17. > :10:21.understand? Daniel Hannan and others... Daniel Hannan said it is
:10:22. > :10:28.not what he said and he was talking in the context of a Norwegian
:10:29. > :10:37.arrangement, which you're then leader Nick Clegg, previous leader,
:10:38. > :10:40.described as a fax democracy. If you stay, you are subject to the
:10:41. > :10:43.jurisdiction of the European Court and if you stay in the market you
:10:44. > :10:49.must follow the rules of free movement. If you stay in the customs
:10:50. > :10:54.union, you cannot make your own free trade. What is the difference
:10:55. > :10:58.between that and being in the EU? Ask in Norway, which was an
:10:59. > :11:04.alternative model. It is not part of the customs union. It stays with
:11:05. > :11:10.access to the single market. This is the point. The British people voted.
:11:11. > :11:14.Doubtless some to leave the single market, doubtless some to stop
:11:15. > :11:18.immigration completely and some for many reasons, to send a message to
:11:19. > :11:22.Westminster, some because they got out of bed the wrong way that
:11:23. > :11:28.morning. The government to convert that vote, which I think was about
:11:29. > :11:33.leaving the European Union, but in terms that are beneficial to
:11:34. > :11:38.Britain, into a position where we have to have a brutal Brexit that
:11:39. > :11:41.takes is out of the EU and, by the way, if the government does not get
:11:42. > :11:47.its way, we jumped over the cliff together. That is not what people
:11:48. > :11:51.voted full. When it comes to honouring the sovereign judgment of
:11:52. > :11:55.the British people, it is the government that have hijacked it for
:11:56. > :12:00.the Conservative Party purpose largely to keep their own
:12:01. > :12:05.anti-European people on their backbenchers in line. That is not
:12:06. > :12:09.what the country voted for. Do you want a referendum on the deal? I
:12:10. > :12:15.want a referendum on the deal at the end of the process. What would
:12:16. > :12:19.happen if the country voted against? You would have an election. What
:12:20. > :12:22.would it do to membership of the EU? The new government would have to
:12:23. > :12:28.decide what step is taken next. There is no way this government
:12:29. > :12:33.could have a referendum on the final deal so the British people get to
:12:34. > :12:36.say whether or not that is a deal they find beneficial to them and in
:12:37. > :12:40.the interests of the country. The government loses you get an
:12:41. > :12:45.election. And if the British people voted for the deal, which you give
:12:46. > :12:49.up? You have to go ahead. Mrs May has not chosen a form of Brexit
:12:50. > :12:54.advantageous to Britain or in deed for which she has a mandate. She has
:12:55. > :12:59.chosen the most extreme form and put us in a position where if she does
:13:00. > :13:04.not get her way we jump over the cliff together. Without any voice.
:13:05. > :13:09.You talk about extreme Brexit. I would like to know how you can leave
:13:10. > :13:13.the European Union, which is not the people voted for, and stay in the
:13:14. > :13:17.single market and Customs union. You can stay with access to the single
:13:18. > :13:24.market. You will not have it in the way Norway has it or Sweden has it.
:13:25. > :13:30.We do not know... It is Switzerland. We don't know the nature of the free
:13:31. > :13:35.trade deal. That will give us access. What we will no longer have
:13:36. > :13:39.is membership, because the people voted against the sorts of things
:13:40. > :13:45.that go with membership. Why is that extreme? Because it means we will
:13:46. > :13:50.not have the same kind of access to the single market as enjoyed by
:13:51. > :13:56.Norway or Switzerland or could have been negotiated by the British
:13:57. > :14:01.Government. The trick is this is a deal which I don't believe the
:14:02. > :14:06.British people voted for, for which Mrs May does not have a mandate,
:14:07. > :14:10.which puts us at the edge of the cliff with the most extreme form of
:14:11. > :14:15.Brexit and threatens asked to jump over the cliff, without the British
:14:16. > :14:21.people having a vote at any time. You have made that point, you have
:14:22. > :14:29.made it well and several times. Here is the issue. You criticise the
:14:30. > :14:33.government position for being extreme. In this historically you
:14:34. > :14:37.were extremists and wanted us to join the euro. We can argue as to
:14:38. > :14:43.why I believe that was the right thing at the time. You don't now?
:14:44. > :14:47.That would have been the right thing at the time. That sounds quite
:14:48. > :14:53.extreme to many. I don't think it is extreme. If you want to get into the
:14:54. > :14:57.detail, at that time, Germany had doubled the debt of Britain and was
:14:58. > :15:02.lower in productivity and competitiveness than Britain. At the
:15:03. > :15:07.end of the process because we have the option to devalue, we ended up
:15:08. > :15:08.with doubled the debt of Germany and half the productivity level. Which
:15:09. > :15:22.has That financial crisis was worse for
:15:23. > :15:27.Britain because we were not able to sustain the competitiveness. We are
:15:28. > :15:31.talking about the future, and whether I was right or wrong about
:15:32. > :15:36.monetary union, and I maintain I was right, the question is, what should
:15:37. > :15:39.happen now? I heard Chris say earlier on that the phoney war has
:15:40. > :15:43.ended and we will get down to the details. What we have had up until
:15:44. > :15:48.now is in salt fuelled invective against those who would question the
:15:49. > :15:53.Government in any way, and political statements from ministers with no
:15:54. > :16:00.fact. Can I ask you this, because for about four times, you have
:16:01. > :16:04.criticised the government for saying that we can no longer be members of
:16:05. > :16:09.the single market. Access to the single market. We will always have
:16:10. > :16:16.that, even North Korea has got access. The Prime Minister announced
:16:17. > :16:20.in her Lancaster house speech many weeks ago. Can you name a single
:16:21. > :16:25.European leader who thinks that Britain should stay in the single
:16:26. > :16:28.market? I can name you lots of European leaders, probably all of
:16:29. > :16:34.the without exception, who would wish Britain to retain membership
:16:35. > :16:37.with the single market similar to that of Switzerland and Norway, and
:16:38. > :16:43.it will be beneficial... Can you name in the commission, the Council
:16:44. > :16:47.of the nesters, a leading Prime Minister or president who says
:16:48. > :16:51.Britain should negotiate to stay members of the single market, can
:16:52. > :16:55.you name one? I think every single one of them wants Britain to
:16:56. > :16:59.continue to have substantial access to the single market in the same
:17:00. > :17:02.form as Norway and Switzerland has, but no doubt negotiated on a basis
:17:03. > :17:08.which is useful to Britain. So not one, in other words? Not a single
:17:09. > :17:12.one of them wants us to have a situation in relation to the single
:17:13. > :17:15.market which this Government is now proposing as part of the brutal
:17:16. > :17:21.Brexit deal that will damage the country. That is not true, Michelle
:17:22. > :17:25.Barney says he looks forward to negotiating an extensive
:17:26. > :17:28.arrangement. Let's wait to see whether that can be done. I
:17:29. > :17:33.understand that, but you said nobody wants it, I have just quoted the
:17:34. > :17:37.leader of the EU negotiations saying he wants it. One thing that cannot
:17:38. > :17:40.be done, and every body knows that except some of those managing this
:17:41. > :17:45.for the Government, we cannot have a deal which is better than the one
:17:46. > :17:49.that we had in the European Union. That cannot be done. So it will be a
:17:50. > :17:54.worse deal, and insofar as this is me has deliberately put us on the
:17:55. > :17:59.outer ring, beyond Switzerland, beyond Norway, on the edge of the
:18:00. > :18:03.cliff, it seems to me, that is a position which I think it is
:18:04. > :18:07.impossible for her to negotiate a deal which is to the benefit of our
:18:08. > :18:10.country. Are you one of these rabid Tory backbenchers forcing the Prime
:18:11. > :18:18.Minister into an extreme position? According to Paddy, I think I must
:18:19. > :18:22.be, and I think there are probably a lot of Leave supporters watching
:18:23. > :18:26.this programme who will be quite offended at being described in that
:18:27. > :18:29.way, and I think it is ironic that Paddy in accuses the Government of
:18:30. > :18:34.invective when that is what we have heard from him. It is not an
:18:35. > :18:39.unreasonable, extreme position to want to be a country that governs
:18:40. > :18:44.ourselves, and it is not unreasonable or extreme to say that
:18:45. > :18:49.leaving the EU means just that. We can't remain subject to all the laws
:18:50. > :18:51.of the single market and the European court of justice and
:18:52. > :18:54.implement the result of the referendum. Is there any bit of what
:18:55. > :18:58.Paddy Ashdown was saying that you disagree with? I think I would
:18:59. > :19:05.disagree with the single currency point. As he said, that is in the
:19:06. > :19:08.past. What about now? I think I would go further than Paddy, and I
:19:09. > :19:13.would have said that the real fault of the Prime Minister was ruling out
:19:14. > :19:16.that single market in the Lancaster house speech, because we should have
:19:17. > :19:22.been entering into the negotiations with a view to try and adapt and
:19:23. > :19:28.reform the single market. You can't adapt and reform the single market
:19:29. > :19:34.from the outside. There are lots of other countries who want and have
:19:35. > :19:37.issues with the free movement, for example, and can we retain the
:19:38. > :19:47.single market and adapt that pillar... Mrs Merkel says no. She
:19:48. > :19:53.hasn't been asked. No, she said no. Free movement is not negotiable,
:19:54. > :19:58.said Mrs Merkel. They put down their lines, we put down our lines, we
:19:59. > :20:09.have a negotiation. Very briefly, we are running out of time. What
:20:10. > :20:14.Theresa has done... Which Theresa? This one? Yes, if we dare to
:20:15. > :20:17.criticise the position taken by the Government supported by in the large
:20:18. > :20:21.measure it anti-European backbenchers, probably to keep them
:20:22. > :20:24.on board, then we are somehow insulting the wider collection of
:20:25. > :20:28.people who voted for that. They voted for something completely
:20:29. > :20:33.different. Mrs me has done what Mr Cameron did, it is not about the
:20:34. > :20:37.national interest. We have to stop, you have had a fair innings, I think
:20:38. > :20:42.you will agree. And we didn't mention hats once!
:20:43. > :20:43.So once Article 50 is triggered, what next?
:20:44. > :20:46.According to the Lisbon Treaty, the whole process should be
:20:47. > :20:48.completed within two years - although some are sceptical
:20:49. > :20:55.JoCo, what can we can expect in the coming
:20:56. > :21:00.Donald Tusk, president of the EU Council which represents the leaders
:21:01. > :21:03.of the remaining 27 member states, has said the Council will publish
:21:04. > :21:08.draft negotiation guidelines within 48 hours.
:21:09. > :21:11.Then at an EU summit next month the Council will agree
:21:12. > :21:17.the European Commission's mandate for negotiating with the UK.
:21:18. > :21:19.By mid-May, the Commission will publish a plan for the negotiations
:21:20. > :21:28.This is also when we may hear more about the possibility of a parallel
:21:29. > :21:33.negotiation on a future EU-UK trade deal.
:21:34. > :21:36.But with elections in both France and Germany in the next six months,
:21:37. > :21:37.it will probably be autumn before negotiations
:21:38. > :21:46.Meanwhile Parliament will be busy discussing
:21:47. > :21:49.the Great Repeal Bill, which - as the name suggests -
:21:50. > :21:53.will repeal the 1972 European Communities Act
:21:54. > :21:57.and incorporate areas of EU law into domestic legislation.
:21:58. > :21:59.Michel Barnier, the Commission's chief negotiator, says he thinks
:22:00. > :22:03.the negotiations could be concluded by next October.
:22:04. > :22:06.However, the negotiations could be extended, if all 27 member states
:22:07. > :22:14.If everything goes to plan, both Houses of Parliament will then
:22:15. > :22:17.The European Council and European Parliament
:22:18. > :22:25.If the deal is formally voted through, the UK would then formally
:22:26. > :22:27.withdraw from the EU by the end of March 2019.
:22:28. > :22:31.And we can talk now to the SNP MP Stephen Gethins, who is the party's
:22:32. > :22:41.Welcome back to the daily politics. For you and the SNP, there is a date
:22:42. > :22:46.and an event missing, namely a second independence referendum. Have
:22:47. > :22:50.you accepted that is not going to happen in the next two years? Lets
:22:51. > :22:53.see what happens. The Scottish Parliament voted last night to have
:22:54. > :23:01.another independence referendum, so it used its mandate to ask for
:23:02. > :23:03.another independence referendum, and I think critically, Andrew was
:23:04. > :23:07.talking earlier on when he was speaking to Paddy about Michel
:23:08. > :23:11.Barnier, but Michel Barnier set out the schedule by which we will know
:23:12. > :23:14.what the deal looks like, and that fits in with the referendum
:23:15. > :23:20.timetable that the First Minister set out. In a sense, if that
:23:21. > :23:23.question of when you may hold a second independence referendum is
:23:24. > :23:26.settled, you can get on with the business of government in Scotland.
:23:27. > :23:32.The Scottish Government is already getting on with the business of
:23:33. > :23:36.government in Scotland. When you talk about Theresa May who is being
:23:37. > :23:39.told we have crisis in the NHS where the Red Cross are talking about a
:23:40. > :23:44.humanitarian disaster, I think she has plenty to be getting on with.
:23:45. > :23:47.And on that basis, she has a lot to get on with, as you have said, no
:23:48. > :23:50.one is denying that, and you could argue that there has been posturing
:23:51. > :23:55.on both sides on the referendum question. But is it now in your
:23:56. > :23:58.interests, in Scotland's interest and the interests of the UK
:23:59. > :24:03.Government, for everyone to try to get at their steel for the UK, to
:24:04. > :24:09.park the issue of the timing of the independence referendum? That is why
:24:10. > :24:13.we don't want to have a referendum right now. We want to know what will
:24:14. > :24:17.happen with the deal. This is not a situation that we wanted to find
:24:18. > :24:23.ourselves in. But will you call operate now in terms of getting the
:24:24. > :24:26.best deal? This is a two-way process, and Theresa May has to be
:24:27. > :24:30.seen to want to work with the Scottish Government. She said she
:24:31. > :24:36.wanted to see a UK wide approach to this, and she hasn't taken that.
:24:37. > :24:40.Repatriating powers on things like agriculture and fishing, you could
:24:41. > :24:46.see that as in some ways making an overture on two big issues for the
:24:47. > :24:48.Scottish Government. You could, but when we asked the Secretary of State
:24:49. > :24:55.what new powers Scotland will be getting, we didn't get any answers.
:24:56. > :24:59.We have had nothing on immigration policy. These were among the
:25:00. > :25:02.promises made before the EU referendum, a week before the polls
:25:03. > :25:05.by Michael Gove, and they are not coming through on that. But if you
:25:06. > :25:10.are going to hold Theresa May's feet to the fire on including Scotland
:25:11. > :25:13.and the Scottish Government in those negotiations, and I have been hints
:25:14. > :25:17.that those would be areas where you could get some sort of agreement,
:25:18. > :25:23.would that be where you will concentrate your efforts,
:25:24. > :25:27.repatriating powers on agriculture and fishing, and working towards a
:25:28. > :25:30.separate deal for certain sectors? That is something that the Home
:25:31. > :25:33.Secretary ruled out. The UK Government don't have a great track
:25:34. > :25:41.record. The Scottish Government have a responsibility to those whose jobs
:25:42. > :25:44.will be impacted by this. 80,000 Scottish jobs, in Scotland alone,
:25:45. > :25:49.could go as a direct consequence of a hard Brexit, which is the one we
:25:50. > :25:54.are looking at the moment. What we are trying to do is give people a
:25:55. > :25:57.choice once they know what the deal looks like before it is too late. So
:25:58. > :26:00.you will still fight for the referendum date within the timescale
:26:01. > :26:03.of spring 2019? I think that is imported, but the First Minister has
:26:04. > :26:07.been clear that she is willing to compromise. So it could go beyond
:26:08. > :26:13.that. Theresa Villiers, is that kind of thing that the Government should
:26:14. > :26:16.be offering the Scottish Parliament, executive control on things like
:26:17. > :26:20.agriculture and fishing? The Government has been clear that no
:26:21. > :26:23.powers on those areas would be removed from Scottish Parliament or
:26:24. > :26:28.the Scottish Government, but there is a debate to be have about the
:26:29. > :26:31.powers which are returned to Westminster, as to which stay in
:26:32. > :26:35.Westminster and which go to the devolved authorities. I'm sure there
:26:36. > :26:37.will be extensive powers over fisheries and agriculture that will
:26:38. > :26:43.end up with the Scottish Government, but at this stage we can't be
:26:44. > :26:48.definite about which they will be. If you got fishing back, would you
:26:49. > :26:52.hand it back to Brussels? As you well know, the Treaty of union and
:26:53. > :26:56.the act of union are two very different things. But if you joined
:26:57. > :27:01.Brussels, you would just hand the powers right back, it is ludicrous!
:27:02. > :27:06.It is difficult to see Brussels blocking any referendum in the same
:27:07. > :27:13.way that the UK Government is trying to block the Scottish Government. We
:27:14. > :27:14.will leave it there. It is a historic day for both Britain and
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:29:28. > :29:30.The Year on our website - Just take a look at Big Ben -
:29:31. > :29:39.and that can mean only one thing. Yes, Prime Minister's
:29:40. > :29:41.Questions is on its way. And that's not all -
:29:42. > :29:52.Laura Kuenssberg is here. A difficult one on PMQs, because it
:29:53. > :29:57.is just the start, this time. It is absolutely, and Jeremy Corbyn and
:29:58. > :30:01.Theresa May will be upstaged today by a six or seven page piece of
:30:02. > :30:05.paper arriving in Brussels. That is how long we expect the letter to be,
:30:06. > :30:10.and broadly we are not expecting there to be much new substance. One
:30:11. > :30:12.member of the Cabinet at the meeting this morning where they were briefed
:30:13. > :30:16.by the Prime Minister on the contents of the letter told me there
:30:17. > :30:18.was nothing unexpected in it. Today is all going to be about time. Lets
:30:19. > :30:38.see what the tone is the PMQs. They were Aysha Frade, Kurt Cochran,
:30:39. > :30:44.Leslie Rhodes and, of course, PC Keith Palmer. I am sure the house
:30:45. > :30:49.will join me in extending condolences to the families. The
:30:50. > :30:53.investigation continues and two people have been arrested and are in
:30:54. > :30:56.custody. This morning I had meetings with ministerial colleagues and I
:30:57. > :31:03.will have further such meetings later today. May I echo her
:31:04. > :31:09.sentiments and congratulate her also on all the good work done since last
:31:10. > :31:13.week. May I also congratulate the Prime Minister and government on
:31:14. > :31:19.triggering Article 50 today. I know this is a momentous action to the
:31:20. > :31:24.whole of the United Kingdom and while I like herself campaigned to
:31:25. > :31:30.stay in, we recognise the people have spoken and we offered the
:31:31. > :31:34.Ulster Unionist Party. Port in ensuring negotiations deliver the
:31:35. > :31:39.best for the whole of the UK and particularly for Northern Ireland.
:31:40. > :31:45.But could I ask the Prime Minister to confirm that in the extremely
:31:46. > :31:49.improbable event that a border poll should take place regarding the
:31:50. > :31:52.future of Northern Ireland within the United Kingdom during her
:31:53. > :31:59.premiership, that a government will fully support any official Remain
:32:00. > :32:11.campaign? Just as the government have done both in regard of the EU
:32:12. > :32:16.and indeed Scotland. The honourable gentleman is right. Today we do give
:32:17. > :32:20.effect to the democratic decision of the people of the United Kingdom who
:32:21. > :32:26.voted for us to leave the European Union. It was a call to make the
:32:27. > :32:32.United Kingdom a country that works for everyone not just the privileged
:32:33. > :32:36.few. We are within that fully committed to ensuring the unique
:32:37. > :32:40.interests of Northern Ireland are attracted and advanced as we
:32:41. > :32:45.establish our negotiating position. Our position is we strongly support
:32:46. > :32:49.the Belfast agreement including the principle of consent that Northern
:32:50. > :32:54.Ireland constitutional position is that the people of Northern Ireland
:32:55. > :32:58.to determine. We have a preference that Northern Ireland should remain
:32:59. > :33:03.part of the United Kingdom and we will never be neutral in expressing
:33:04. > :33:10.our support for that. That is because I believe fundamentally in
:33:11. > :33:15.the strength of our union. Pupils and parents deserve good schools and
:33:16. > :33:20.real choice in education including schools focused unashamedly on
:33:21. > :33:22.academic rigour. Can my right honourable friend tell us when the
:33:23. > :33:27.government will open applications for the new wave of free schools and
:33:28. > :33:31.can she confirmed they will be genuinely free to be run as they
:33:32. > :33:36.wish, serving the community and creating scores for everyone? My
:33:37. > :33:41.honourable friend is right. Schools should be free to be run as best
:33:42. > :33:45.suit them. We put autonomy and freedom in the hands of strong
:33:46. > :33:51.leaders and outstanding teachers so they can deliver an excellent
:33:52. > :33:54.education. We want to get out of the way of outstanding education
:33:55. > :33:59.providers to set up the types of schools parents want which is why we
:34:00. > :34:02.have set out plans to remove the ban on new grammar schools and
:34:03. > :34:08.restrictions on new faith schools. We do expect to announce the details
:34:09. > :34:13.of the next wave of free school applications following the
:34:14. > :34:17.publication of the White Paper. I want to begin by paying tribute to
:34:18. > :34:22.the emergency services as the Prime Minister did, across the country,
:34:23. > :34:26.especially those who responded to the Westminster attack and to those
:34:27. > :34:30.who turned out to help the victims of the new ferry explosion on
:34:31. > :34:35.Saturday. Our thoughts remain with the injured and those who have lost
:34:36. > :34:39.loved ones and we thank the police for their investigations. Could the
:34:40. > :34:43.Prime Minister assure Ross police will be given all support and
:34:44. > :34:49.resources to take them through this difficult period -- assure us? I
:34:50. > :34:54.joined the right honourable gentleman in praising the work of
:34:55. > :35:00.the emergency services, who have to deal with a wide range of incidents
:35:01. > :35:06.that take place. Our focus has been most recently on the attack last
:35:07. > :35:09.Wednesday. We should not forget that day in day out emergency services
:35:10. > :35:16.work on our behalf and often put themselves in danger as a result. I
:35:17. > :35:21.have kept in touch as has my right honourable friend the Home Secretary
:35:22. > :35:23.with the security services and Metropolitan Police on the
:35:24. > :35:28.investigation taking place into the attack last week and I am looking
:35:29. > :35:31.forward to security arrangements and I can assure him they have the
:35:32. > :35:37.resources they need to carry out vital work. Of course we all pay
:35:38. > :35:43.tribute to the police for the work they do but there are some problems
:35:44. > :35:49.that between 2015 and 2018 there will be a real terms cut in central
:35:50. > :35:53.government funding to police forces of 330 million. Can the Prime
:35:54. > :35:57.Minister assure the house the police all over the country have the
:35:58. > :36:06.necessary resources to do the job? I would remind him that what we have
:36:07. > :36:11.done is protected that police budget and of course the former Shadow Home
:36:12. > :36:16.Secretary, his colleague, the right honourable member, prior to the...
:36:17. > :36:23.At the Labour Party conference said savings can be found. The police say
:36:24. > :36:29.5-10% is just about doable. We have protected the police budget. I have
:36:30. > :36:36.been speaking to police forces and they are cleared the work they are
:36:37. > :36:41.doing has the resources they need. The Police Federation survey
:36:42. > :36:47.recently undertaken reveals that 55% of serving police officers say
:36:48. > :36:52.morale is low due to the way in which funding has been treated.
:36:53. > :36:58.Front line policing is vital in tackling crime and terrorism. Since
:36:59. > :37:03.2010, there are 20,000 fewer police officers, 12,000 fewer on the front
:37:04. > :37:09.line. I asked the Prime Minister again, will she think again about
:37:10. > :37:13.the cuts and guaranteed policing on the front line will be protected so
:37:14. > :37:21.every community can be assured it has the officers it needs in their
:37:22. > :37:24.community? I said we have protected those police budgets including of
:37:25. > :37:30.course the precepts they raise locally. Let's think about what has
:37:31. > :37:37.happened since 2010. Since 2010 we have seen crime is traditionally
:37:38. > :37:42.measured by the independent crime survey falling by a third to a
:37:43. > :37:47.record low, and that is the work of hard-working officers up and down
:37:48. > :37:52.this country. They have been backed by this government. We have made
:37:53. > :37:55.them more accountable through directly elected Police and Crime
:37:56. > :37:59.Commissioners and there has been reform, including reform of the
:38:00. > :38:03.Police Federation that was necessary, but we have ensured
:38:04. > :38:11.police have resources to do their job and we see crime at a record
:38:12. > :38:18.low. The Royal air forces preparing to fly typhoons from my constituency
:38:19. > :38:25.to Romania, to support Nato allies on the border with Russia. This is
:38:26. > :38:30.as President Putin is locking up political opponents and crushing
:38:31. > :38:35.calls for democracy. Will my right honourable friend confirm that as we
:38:36. > :38:40.leave the EU, the United Kingdom will continue to lead Nato in
:38:41. > :38:45.defending this vital border, and will she paid tribute to the Armed
:38:46. > :38:53.Forces who safeguard our democracy at home and abroad? I am very happy
:38:54. > :38:58.to join my honourable friend in paying tribute to the men and women
:38:59. > :39:06.of our Armed Forces, they are the best in the world and they worked
:39:07. > :39:11.tirelessly to keep us safe and we open every gratitude. Our commitment
:39:12. > :39:17.to collective defence and security through Nato is as strong as ever.
:39:18. > :39:23.We will meet our pledge to spend 2% of GDP wand expense every year of
:39:24. > :39:27.the decade and we plan to spend 178 billion on equipment. She referred
:39:28. > :39:32.to work done by the Royal Air Force in relation to Romania. With Nato we
:39:33. > :39:36.deploy a battalion to Estonia and squadron to Poland and I think that
:39:37. > :39:44.shows our commitment to our collective security and defence. We
:39:45. > :39:47.associate ourselves with the condolences of the Prime Minister
:39:48. > :39:54.and leader of the Labour Party and praise for the emergency and
:39:55. > :39:59.security services. After the appalling terrorist atrocity. Last
:40:00. > :40:04.year, the Prime Minister promised before she would trigger Article 50
:40:05. > :40:17.on leaving the EU, she would secure a UK wide approach and agreement...
:40:18. > :40:21.Last year the Prime Minister did make that promise and promised there
:40:22. > :40:26.would be agreement with the governments of Scotland, Wales and
:40:27. > :40:30.Northern Ireland before triggering Article 50. The Prime Minister has
:40:31. > :40:36.now triggered Article 50 and she has done so without an agreement. There
:40:37. > :40:43.is no agreement. Why has she broken her promise and her word? I have
:40:44. > :40:53.been clear throughout and since the first visit that I made as Prime
:40:54. > :40:57.Minister to Edinburgh last July, which was we would work with the
:40:58. > :41:02.devolved administrations and develop a UK wide approach but in
:41:03. > :41:06.negotiations it would be a UK approach taken into the negotiations
:41:07. > :41:11.and it would be the United Kingdom government that took forward that
:41:12. > :41:24.position and I would remind him that Scotland is part of the United
:41:25. > :41:29.Kingdom. People will note the Prime Minister did not deny she would seek
:41:30. > :41:32.a UK wide approach and agreement with the governments of Scotland,
:41:33. > :41:38.Wales and Northern Ireland and there is no agreement. The Scottish
:41:39. > :41:43.Government was elected with a higher percentage of the vote with a bigger
:41:44. > :41:49.electoral mandate than the UK Government. Yesterday the Scottish
:41:50. > :41:56.Parliament voted by 69 to 59 that people in Scotland should have a
:41:57. > :41:59.choice about their future. After the negotiations with the EU are
:42:00. > :42:04.concluded, there will be a period for democratic approval of the
:42:05. > :42:08.outcome. That choice will be exercised in this Parliament, in the
:42:09. > :42:15.European Parliament, and in 27 member states of the EU. Given that
:42:16. > :42:24.everybody else will have a choice... Will the people of Scotland have a
:42:25. > :42:31.choice... ? I say to the right honourable gentleman that we are
:42:32. > :42:39.taking forward the views of the United Kingdom into the negotiations
:42:40. > :42:42.with the European Union on the United Kingdom exiting the European
:42:43. > :42:56.Union. The Scottish Nationalist party consistently talks... Order!
:42:57. > :43:00.This is unseemly heckling. You are a distinguished QC. You would not
:43:01. > :43:07.behave like that in the Scottish courts. You would be chucked out.
:43:08. > :43:12.Prime Minister. The SNP consistently talks about independence as the only
:43:13. > :43:19.subject they wish to talk about. I said to him and his colleagues that
:43:20. > :43:26.now is not the time to be talking about a second independence
:43:27. > :43:31.referendum. On today of all days, we should be coming together as a
:43:32. > :43:42.United Kingdom to get the best deal for Britain.
:43:43. > :43:47.Improving vocational and technical education is vital to closing our
:43:48. > :43:50.productivity gap so can the Prime Minister assure me vocational
:43:51. > :43:55.education will enjoy equal status with academic education so that as
:43:56. > :44:00.we leave the EU, our young people can be equipped to build the high
:44:01. > :44:05.skilled economy of the future? My honourable friend has raised an
:44:06. > :44:10.important issue. It is essential for young people we give vocational and
:44:11. > :44:15.technical education the right esteem and focus because it is essential in
:44:16. > :44:20.addressing the productivity gap. We want to deliver a world leading
:44:21. > :44:25.technical education system to create genuine options that are equal in
:44:26. > :44:30.esteem, two options for young people in esteem. In the budget, the
:44:31. > :44:36.Chancellor announced a significant package of investment to represent
:44:37. > :44:41.the most ambitious post-16 reform since the introduction of A-levels.
:44:42. > :44:45.We will invest an extra half ?1 billion in Ingham's technical
:44:46. > :44:49.education and introduce maintenance loans or those studying high-level
:44:50. > :44:56.technical qualifications at institutes of technology. The
:44:57. > :45:02.Treasury Select Committee says that having to fill in a tax return every
:45:03. > :45:06.three months means that many smaller companies face disaster. The
:45:07. > :45:13.Federation of small business says the extra cost is likely to be
:45:14. > :45:19.annually ?2700 a year. This is another burden on business from this
:45:20. > :45:23.government. She got it wrong on national Insurance, is she going to
:45:24. > :45:28.backtrack now on tax returns, as well?
:45:29. > :45:32.Perhaps the honourable gentleman should have listened to the
:45:33. > :45:35.announcement the Chancellor made in the budget where he indicated he
:45:36. > :45:40.would be delaying the introduction of this for the smallest businesses
:45:41. > :45:45.below the VAT threshold for a year. But I think it is right that HMRC
:45:46. > :45:49.does try to move to a greater digitisation of the way in which it
:45:50. > :45:53.operates. I think that will enable it to give a better service to those
:45:54. > :45:59.people who are completing their forms, and we should always remember
:46:00. > :46:03.that aspect of what is being proposed. I welcome the additional
:46:04. > :46:06.money the Government has given for adult social care, but it is
:46:07. > :46:14.important we also look at long-term solutions for the. Will the Prime
:46:15. > :46:16.Minister look at issues with how the system works with Northampton county
:46:17. > :46:21.council and Northampton General Hospital? I say to my honourable
:46:22. > :46:28.friend but I'm grateful that he is welcome for the extra money, the ?2
:46:29. > :46:32.billion going to social care and out by the Chancellor. This shows we
:46:33. > :46:37.have recognised the pressures and demands on social care, but it is
:46:38. > :46:40.also important that we ensure best practice is delivered across the
:46:41. > :46:44.whole of the country, it isn't just about money, so we are trying to
:46:45. > :46:46.find a long-term sustainable solution which will help local
:46:47. > :46:50.authorities to learn from each other and raise standards across the
:46:51. > :46:54.system, and we will bring forward proposals in a green paper later
:46:55. > :46:58.this year to put the state funded system on a more sustainable and
:46:59. > :47:03.long-term footing. As Home Secretary, the Prime Minister
:47:04. > :47:08.clearly didn't protect police budgets. Last week she told me four
:47:09. > :47:16.times, we have protected the schools budget. Does she still stand by that
:47:17. > :47:23.statement? We have protected schools budgets, and we are putting record
:47:24. > :47:27.funding into schools. Today, Mr Speaker, the Public Accounts
:47:28. > :47:31.Committee says the Department of Education that it does not seem to
:47:32. > :47:36.understand the pressures that schools are already under. And they
:47:37. > :47:41.went on to say that funding per pupil is reducing in real terms, and
:47:42. > :47:50.goes on to say schools budgets will be cut by ?3 billion, equivalent to
:47:51. > :48:00.8%, by 2020. Is the Public Accounts Committee wrong on this? What we see
:48:01. > :48:03.over the course of this Parliament is ?230 billion going into our
:48:04. > :48:06.schools. But what matters is the quality of education that we see in
:48:07. > :48:12.our schools. 1.8 million more children in good or outstanding
:48:13. > :48:17.schools, and a policy from this Government to ensure that every
:48:18. > :48:23.child gets a good school plays. Mr Speaker, the daily experience of
:48:24. > :48:27.many parents who have children in schools is that they get letters
:48:28. > :48:31.from the schools asking for money. One parent, Elizabeth, wrote to me
:48:32. > :48:35.to say she has received a letter from her daughter's school asking
:48:36. > :48:42.for a monthly donation to top up the reduced funds that her school is
:48:43. > :48:45.receiving. This Government's cuts to schools are betraying a generation
:48:46. > :48:50.of our children. If the Prime Minister is right, then the parents
:48:51. > :48:54.are wrong, the teachers are wrong, the IFF is wrong, the National Audit
:48:55. > :49:00.Office is wrong, the education policy Institute is wrong and now
:49:01. > :49:03.the Public Accounts Committee, which includes eight Conservative members
:49:04. > :49:06.in it, is also wrong. So which organisation does back the Prime
:49:07. > :49:11.Minister's view on education spending in our schools? I would say
:49:12. > :49:15.to the right honourable gentleman that as I have just said to him, we
:49:16. > :49:19.said we would protect school funding, and we have. A real terms
:49:20. > :49:23.protection for the schools budget. We said we would protect the money
:49:24. > :49:31.following children into schools, and we have, it reaches ?42 billion as
:49:32. > :49:36.pupil numbers rise in 19/ 20. But it is also about the quality of
:49:37. > :49:40.education children are receiving. 1.8 million more children in good or
:49:41. > :49:44.outstanding schools than under the Labour government. But I also say
:49:45. > :49:48.this, because time and time again, the gentleman stands up in PMQs and
:49:49. > :49:53.asks questions which would lead to more spending. Let's look at what he
:49:54. > :49:57.has done recently. On the 11th of January, more spending. On the 8th
:49:58. > :50:02.of February, more spending. On the 22nd of February, more spending. On
:50:03. > :50:09.the first and the 8th of March, more spending. On the 15th and 22nd of
:50:10. > :50:14.March, more spending. Barely a PMQs goes by that he doesn't call for
:50:15. > :50:17.more public spending. When it comes to spending money that they haven't
:50:18. > :50:21.got, Labour simply can't help themselves. It's the same old
:50:22. > :50:25.Labour, spend today and give somebody else the Bill tomorrow.
:50:26. > :50:37.Well, we won't do that to the next generation.
:50:38. > :50:43.Thank you, Mr Speaker. I'm sure everyone in the House will want to
:50:44. > :50:48.join me in paying tribute to the thousands who worked in munitions
:50:49. > :50:50.factories in both world wars. Often in very dangerous conditions. And
:50:51. > :50:55.they produced a vital equipment for the Armed Forces that helped us to
:50:56. > :50:59.victory. I'm sure my honourable friend will recognise that for
:51:00. > :51:02.practical reasons it is not possible to pursue individual awards, but I
:51:03. > :51:05.know that the Department for Business would be happy to work with
:51:06. > :51:10.him to look at further ways to recognise the collective effort of
:51:11. > :51:13.former munitions workers. I thank my right honourable friend for that
:51:14. > :51:19.answer. These ladies found that the chemicals in the shells turned their
:51:20. > :51:22.skins yellow, and they were nicknamed canary girls. I know my
:51:23. > :51:24.right honourable friend is exceptionally busy at the moment,
:51:25. > :51:27.but could she find just a few moments in her diary to meet me and
:51:28. > :51:33.some of these canary girls to recognise their service? I would be
:51:34. > :51:37.very happy to do that. I would be very happy to meet some canary
:51:38. > :51:41.girls. As I said, they did work which was vital to the war effort.
:51:42. > :51:46.They did work which in one sense was absolutely routine, but in another
:51:47. > :51:51.sense was extremely dangerous, and I think we should recognise the
:51:52. > :51:54.efforts that they put in. Thank you, Mr Speaker. The Prime Minister will
:51:55. > :52:04.be aware that the Welsh Labour government has established a
:52:05. > :52:06.children's funeral fund. Many leading funeral providers have also
:52:07. > :52:11.indicated that there will be no charges for children and young
:52:12. > :52:14.people's funerals. I know the Prime Minister is a compassionate woman,
:52:15. > :52:18.and I know she understands the importance of a children's funeral
:52:19. > :52:23.fund. Will she agree to work with me to establish this fund to bring some
:52:24. > :52:28.comfort to bereaved parents in their darkest hour? I pay tribute to the
:52:29. > :52:34.honourable lady who has been campaigning tirelessly on this
:52:35. > :52:37.issue, and obviously it is not just a passionate campaign, but she has
:52:38. > :52:42.spoken on many occasions moving in this House about her personal
:52:43. > :52:46.experience which she has brought to bear on this issue. I welcome the
:52:47. > :52:50.decision taken by the co-operative funeral company to waive the fees on
:52:51. > :52:54.this. There is some financial support available, we are looking at
:52:55. > :52:56.this issue on the problems faced by parents, and at what more can be
:52:57. > :53:00.done through a cross government piece of work, and I ask the
:53:01. > :53:03.Minister for the Cabinet office who is meeting on that piece of work to
:53:04. > :53:09.meet with us and talk about the idea. As the Prime Minister will
:53:10. > :53:13.know, the budget gave an extra ?200 million to the Welsh Labour
:53:14. > :53:17.government in order to provide business rate relief. Will the Prime
:53:18. > :53:20.Minister agree with myself and the leader of Monmouthshire council that
:53:21. > :53:24.Welsh Labour must now commit to spending that money on supporting
:53:25. > :53:27.Welsh businesses and giving the same level of support that has been
:53:28. > :53:34.provided in England by this conservative Government? I say to my
:53:35. > :53:37.honourable friend he is absolutely right. As he said at the budget, my
:53:38. > :53:42.right honourable friend the Chancellor announced a ?200 million
:53:43. > :53:45.boost to the Welsh budget. They will be able to use that money to support
:53:46. > :53:49.their own priorities, but the people of Wales can send a clear signal
:53:50. > :53:53.about these priorities by voting for Conservative councillors like Peter
:53:54. > :53:59.Fox on the 4th of May. And I have to say it is the UK Government actions
:54:00. > :54:04.to support working families throughout the country that will
:54:05. > :54:07.make sure Wales benefits. The Foreign Secretary jury be EU
:54:08. > :54:15.referendum campaign urged people to, and I quote, take back control of
:54:16. > :54:20.huge sums of money, ?350 million per week, and spend it on our priorities
:54:21. > :54:24.such as the NHS. The Prime Minister will trigger article 50 today. Can
:54:25. > :54:29.the Prime Minister confirm precisely when she wants to fulfil the promise
:54:30. > :54:30.made by her Cabinet colleagues who is sitting on the front page
:54:31. > :54:55.smirking at the British public? Order, order, Boris is sitting
:54:56. > :55:00.perfectly comfortably, there is an air of repose about the fellow!
:55:01. > :55:08.Prime Minister. I am very happy to tell the
:55:09. > :55:11.honourable lady that when this country leaves the European Union,
:55:12. > :55:16.we will have control of our budget and we will decide how that money is
:55:17. > :55:22.spent. With modification, schools in my constituency welcome the National
:55:23. > :55:26.funding formula, and given the Leader of the Opposition's
:55:27. > :55:28.intervention, I hope my next question doesn't land me on the
:55:29. > :55:33.naughty step, but given that Stockport schools and other schools
:55:34. > :55:39.have been at the bottom of the funding pile for years, and have
:55:40. > :55:45.less scope for efficiencies, would my right honourable friend consider
:55:46. > :55:48.giving immediate support to them? As my honourable friend is saying, what
:55:49. > :55:52.we are doing is aiming to end the postcode lottery of schools funding,
:55:53. > :55:58.and schools funding is at a record high. In relation to the minimum
:55:59. > :56:03.funding level, as I have said before, the DFE have heard
:56:04. > :56:06.representations on the issue on this national funding formula and will be
:56:07. > :56:11.considering those. There have been a lot of responses to that, but it is
:56:12. > :56:16.a historic and complex reform but there has been general agreement for
:56:17. > :56:21.many years that reform is needed, we want to get this right which is why
:56:22. > :56:26.we are carefully considering it. After nine months of this Prime
:56:27. > :56:30.Minister's approach to Brexit, Northern Ireland is deadlocked, the
:56:31. > :56:37.Welsh are alienated, Scotland is going for a referendum, the English
:56:38. > :56:40.are split down the middle and Brexit MPs are walking out of Commons
:56:41. > :56:47.committees because they don't like home truths. Has the Prime Minister
:56:48. > :56:54.considered in terms of invoking Article 50 that now is not the time?
:56:55. > :57:07.What the UK Government is doing in invoking article 50 is putting into
:57:08. > :57:12.practice the Democratic vote of the British people on the 23rd of June
:57:13. > :57:15.last year in a referendum. There was a referendum in 2014 in Scotland
:57:16. > :57:20.when the Scottish people voted to remain part of the United Kingdom. I
:57:21. > :57:26.suggest The right honourable gentleman and his colleagues put
:57:27. > :57:30.that into practice! Mr Speaker, three quarters of my constituent
:57:31. > :57:35.Umag voted to leave the European Union. Does the Prime Minister agree
:57:36. > :57:40.with me that as she triggers article 50, it marks a watershed moment, not
:57:41. > :57:45.only for this country's control of immigration and our sovereignty, but
:57:46. > :57:51.also for listening to the views of people who were forgotten for far
:57:52. > :58:00.too long? I absolutely agree with my honourable friend. Not only are we
:58:01. > :58:04.putting into place the views of the British people as set out in that
:58:05. > :58:09.referendum on the 23rd of June last year, but crucially that was not
:58:10. > :58:12.just a vote about leaving the EU. It was a vote about changing this
:58:13. > :58:16.country for the future, and this Government has a clear plan for
:58:17. > :58:20.Britain that will change this country, that will see us with a
:58:21. > :58:29.more global outlook, a stronger economy, a fairer society and a more
:58:30. > :58:34.united nation. The people expect the Prime Minister to follow her party's
:58:35. > :58:39.manifesto and abide by a majority vote of this Parliament. So why does
:58:40. > :58:48.she say that the First Minister of Scotland should do the opposite?
:58:49. > :58:57.What I say is that at this point in time Dodge at this point in time as
:58:58. > :59:06.we face this historic moment of facing Article 50 and this country's
:59:07. > :59:11.relationship with the European Union, now is the time for us to
:59:12. > :59:15.pull together and not, part. On Friday, thousands of people will be
:59:16. > :59:26.up and down this country raising funds and awareness of brain tumour
:59:27. > :59:30.research. Many of these people will know people someone who have
:59:31. > :59:36.suffered from a brain tumour. It is a bigger cancer killer of children
:59:37. > :59:39.and adults under 40. Will the Prime Minister join me in commending all
:59:40. > :59:42.these people raising awareness and funds and see what more we can do to
:59:43. > :59:48.raise funding for brain tumour research? This is an important area,
:59:49. > :59:53.and I believe in this area the UK does have a good record of research
:59:54. > :59:57.on brain tumours, and that is important, but he is absolutely
:59:58. > :00:00.right. The people who are raising funds for this important cause
:00:01. > :00:04.should be commended, as he says many of them will have had personal
:00:05. > :00:08.experience in one way or another of brain tumours, and I think it is
:00:09. > :00:11.important that we recognise that there are many killers out there
:00:12. > :00:15.which don't often receive the publicity and support of others, and
:00:16. > :00:16.we should recognise their importance, and commend those who
:00:17. > :00:28.are raising funds. Can the Prime Minister said what she
:00:29. > :00:30.is doing to ensure national and local government prioritise the
:00:31. > :00:38.purchasing and buying of British goods and services, although the
:00:39. > :00:46.Home Secretary on police vehicles, does not give us cause for optimism.
:00:47. > :00:50.We have been encouraging the procurement of British goods and
:00:51. > :00:54.services. He asked what we can do for local authorities, if people
:00:55. > :01:02.want local authorities to take their best interests to heart, they should
:01:03. > :01:09.vote Conservative. Can I ask... I congratulate the Prime Minister and
:01:10. > :01:14.invoking Article 50. Does she agree this needs to be the end of the
:01:15. > :01:19.phoney war and posturing and focus now on the detail for every
:01:20. > :01:25.industry, centre and community to get a bespoke deal we can all get
:01:26. > :01:30.behind? I agree with my honourable friend. Now is the time to come
:01:31. > :01:34.together and be united across this House and country to ensure we work
:01:35. > :01:42.for the best deal for the United Kingdom and best future for us all.
:01:43. > :01:46.The Prime Minister has rightly emphasised her determination to
:01:47. > :01:50.deliver for all constituent parts of the United Kingdom on this historic
:01:51. > :01:55.day and while others are content to moan, we want to see that delivery
:01:56. > :02:00.happen and we are confident she will make that happen. In Northern
:02:01. > :02:04.Ireland, where some have walked away from responsibilities in terms of
:02:05. > :02:09.devolution, we want devolution up and running to have a functioning
:02:10. > :02:14.government and we have set no preconditions. If others continue to
:02:15. > :02:18.stay away from devolution and walk away, will she pledged to work more
:02:19. > :02:23.closely with those of us in this House to defend and protect the
:02:24. > :02:27.interests of Northern Ireland? We say that we all want to work
:02:28. > :02:31.together to ensure we can protect the best interests of Northern
:02:32. > :02:36.Ireland. I think that ensuring we have strong devolved government in
:02:37. > :02:41.Northern Ireland is important for the future and so we can build on
:02:42. > :02:44.the significant progress made in recent years for the people of
:02:45. > :02:49.Northern Ireland and I urge all parties to come to the talks with a
:02:50. > :02:55.view to finding a way through so that Northern Ireland once again can
:02:56. > :02:59.be restored to devolved government. With the Prime Minister agree social
:03:00. > :03:03.media companies need to take action to remove extremist and hate
:03:04. > :03:08.material from platforms and to foot the Bill for the police who are
:03:09. > :03:14.currently doing their dirty work at the taxpayers' expense? This
:03:15. > :03:17.question of working with the companies to ensure extremist
:03:18. > :03:23.material is removed as quickly as possible is one that is not new.
:03:24. > :03:28.Through the counterterrorism internet referral unit we have the
:03:29. > :03:34.process to enable the police to take material down. 250,000 pieces of
:03:35. > :03:38.material have been taken down since 2010 and there has been increase in
:03:39. > :03:42.that activity in the last couple of years. I know the Home Secretary
:03:43. > :03:49.will be meeting companies this week to talk to them about this important
:03:50. > :03:54.issue. We do not want extremist material on the internet, what we
:03:55. > :03:59.want to see is companies taking action to remove material
:04:00. > :04:05.encouraging hate and division. Late on Saturday night, a massive
:04:06. > :04:09.explosion devastated new ferry in my constituency. We are thinking of
:04:10. > :04:15.those who were hurt. It is a miracle more people were not injured. The
:04:16. > :04:19.community faces dereliction. All the Prime Minister join with me in
:04:20. > :04:24.thanking all of those who looked after my community over the weekend
:04:25. > :04:28.and recent days, and will she arrange a meeting with the Secretary
:04:29. > :04:35.of State who can discuss how the government can help us to rebuild
:04:36. > :04:40.New Ferry. I am happy to do those things. I commend and thank all of
:04:41. > :04:45.those who worked hard in the emergency services and others to
:04:46. > :04:49.support her community when this devastating explosion took place.
:04:50. > :04:54.That work will continue. There will be support I am sure being given to
:04:55. > :05:00.the community in the future and I am happy to ask the Secretary of State
:05:01. > :05:03.to meet her and discuss how that community can be rebuilt and
:05:04. > :05:16.overcome the impact of this explosion. Order.
:05:17. > :05:25.Statement, the Prime Minister. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Today, the
:05:26. > :05:31.government acts on the democratic will of the British people. It acts
:05:32. > :05:38.on the clear and convincing position of this House. A few minutes ago in
:05:39. > :05:42.Brussels, the United Kingdom's permanent representative to the EU
:05:43. > :05:47.handed a letter to the president of the European Council on my behalf,
:05:48. > :05:53.confirming the government decision to invoke Article 50. The Article 50
:05:54. > :05:57.process is now under way and in accordance with the wishes of the
:05:58. > :06:04.British people the United Kingdom is leaving the European Union. This is
:06:05. > :06:11.an historic moment from which there can be no turning back. Britain is
:06:12. > :06:15.leaving the European Union. We are going to make our own decisions and
:06:16. > :06:20.laws. We are going to take control of things that matter most to us and
:06:21. > :06:24.we are going to take this opportunity to build a stronger,
:06:25. > :06:29.fairer Britain, a country our children and grandchildren are proud
:06:30. > :06:33.to call home. That is our ambition and our opportunity. That is what
:06:34. > :06:41.this government is determined to do. Mr Speaker, at moments like these,
:06:42. > :06:47.great turning points in our national story, the choices we make to find
:06:48. > :06:51.the character of our nation. We can choose to save the task ahead is too
:06:52. > :06:56.great, we can choose to turn our face to the past and believe it
:06:57. > :06:59.cannot be done, or we can look forward with optimism and hope and
:07:00. > :07:06.to believe in the power of the British spirit. I choose to believe
:07:07. > :07:14.in Britain and that our best days lie ahead. I do so because I am
:07:15. > :07:21.confident we have vision and plan to use this moment to build a better
:07:22. > :07:27.Britain. For leaving the EU presents us with a unique opportunity. It is
:07:28. > :07:31.this generation's chance to shape a brighter future, a chance to step
:07:32. > :07:38.back and ask ourselves what kind of country we want to be. My answer is
:07:39. > :07:43.clear. I want the United Kingdom to emerge from this period of change
:07:44. > :07:49.stronger, fairer, more united and more outward looking than ever
:07:50. > :07:53.before. I want us to be a secure, prosperous, tolerant country, a
:07:54. > :07:56.magnet for international talent and are home to the pioneers and
:07:57. > :08:03.innovators who will shape the world ahead. I want us to be a truly
:08:04. > :08:08.global Britain. The best friend and neighbour to our European partners,
:08:09. > :08:16.a country that reaches beyond the borders of Europe. Can I apologise
:08:17. > :08:27.for interrupting. Mr Boswell, calm yourself, you have to learn to
:08:28. > :08:32.behave in a statement -- statesman-like fashion. I want all
:08:33. > :08:36.colleagues the chance to question the Prime Minister. This is an
:08:37. > :08:44.important statement and it is reasonable to expect the Prime
:08:45. > :08:51.Minister gets a courteous hearing. Mr Speaker, I want us to be a truly
:08:52. > :08:54.global Britain, the best friend and neighbour to our European partners
:08:55. > :08:59.that a country that reaches beyond the borders of Europe, a country
:09:00. > :09:03.that goes into the world to build relationships with new friends and
:09:04. > :09:09.allies alike. That is why I have set out a clear and ambitious plan for
:09:10. > :09:13.the negotiations ahead, a plan for a deep and special partnership between
:09:14. > :09:17.Britain and the European Union, of values, a partnership of interests,
:09:18. > :09:22.a partnership based on cooperation in areas such as security and
:09:23. > :09:27.economic affairs, and a partnership that works in the best interests of
:09:28. > :09:32.the United Kingdom, European Union and wider world. Perhaps now more
:09:33. > :09:38.than ever the world needs the liberal democratic values of Europe.
:09:39. > :10:08.Values... Perhaps... Perhaps now more than ever the world
:10:09. > :10:13.needs the liberal democratic values of Europe, values the United Kingdom
:10:14. > :10:17.shares and that is why while we are leaving the institutions of the
:10:18. > :10:21.European Union, we are not leaving Europe, we will remain a close
:10:22. > :10:27.friend and ally, we would be a committed partner and play our part
:10:28. > :10:31.to ensure Europe is able to protect its values and defend itself from
:10:32. > :10:35.security threats and we will do all we can to help the European Union
:10:36. > :10:39.prosper and succeed. In a letter delivered to resident Donald Tusk
:10:40. > :10:43.today, copies of which I have placed in the library, I have been cleared
:10:44. > :10:48.the deep and special partnership we seek is in the best interests of the
:10:49. > :10:52.United Kingdom and European Union. I have been clear we will work
:10:53. > :10:56.constructively in a spirit of sincere cooperation to bring this
:10:57. > :11:01.partnership into being. I have been clear we should seek to agree the
:11:02. > :11:06.terms of this future partnership alongside those of our withdrawal
:11:07. > :11:09.within the next two years. I am ambitious for Britain and the
:11:10. > :11:15.objectives set out for these negotiations remain. We will deliver
:11:16. > :11:22.certainty wherever possible so that business, the public sector and
:11:23. > :11:25.everybody has as much clarity as we can provide. Tomorrow we will
:11:26. > :11:31.publish a White Paper confirming our plans to convert it into British law
:11:32. > :11:35.so that everyone knows where they stand. It is why I have been clear
:11:36. > :11:40.the government will put the final deal agreed to a vote in both houses
:11:41. > :11:44.of parliament before it comes into force. We will take control of our
:11:45. > :11:49.laws and bring an end to the jurisdiction of the European Court
:11:50. > :11:54.of Justice in Britain. Leaving the European Union will mean our laws
:11:55. > :11:58.will be made in Westminster, Edinburgh, Cardiff and Belfast, and
:11:59. > :12:04.those laws will be interpreted by judges not in Luxembourg, but in
:12:05. > :12:07.courts across this country. We will strengthen the union of the four
:12:08. > :12:16.nations that comprise our United Kingdom. We will negotiate as one
:12:17. > :12:20.United Kingdom, taking account of the specific interests of every
:12:21. > :12:25.nation and region of the UK and when it comes to the powers we take back
:12:26. > :12:29.from Europe, we will consult on which powers should reside in
:12:30. > :12:33.Westminster and which should be passed on to the devolved
:12:34. > :12:37.administrations. No decision currently taken by the devolved
:12:38. > :12:42.administrations will be removed from them and it is the expectation of
:12:43. > :12:45.the government the devolved administrations in Scotland, Wales
:12:46. > :12:48.and Northern Ireland will see a sick that could increase in
:12:49. > :12:54.decision-making power as a result of this process. We want to maintain
:12:55. > :12:57.the common travel area with the Republic of Ireland, there shall be
:12:58. > :13:01.no return to the borders of the past. We will control immigration so
:13:02. > :13:07.we continue to attract the brightest and best to work and study in
:13:08. > :13:12.Britain, but manage the process so that our immigration system serves
:13:13. > :13:16.the national interest. We seek to guarantee the rights of EU citizens
:13:17. > :13:21.living in Britain and the rights of British nationals in member states
:13:22. > :13:26.as early as we can. That is set out clearly in the letter as an early
:13:27. > :13:31.priority for the talks ahead. We will ensure workers' rights are
:13:32. > :13:34.protected and maintained and under my leadership not only with the
:13:35. > :13:40.government protect the rights of workers, but we will build on them.
:13:41. > :13:43.We will pursue an ambitious free trade agreement with the European
:13:44. > :13:48.Union that allows for the freest trading goods and services between
:13:49. > :13:52.Britain and the EU member states. That gives British companies the
:13:53. > :13:57.maximum freedom to trade with and operate within European markets and
:13:58. > :14:01.let European businesses do the same in Britain, because European leaders
:14:02. > :14:06.have said many times we cannot cherry pick and remain members of
:14:07. > :14:10.the single market without accepting the four freedoms that are
:14:11. > :14:15.indivisible. We respect that position and as accepting those
:14:16. > :14:18.freedoms is incompatible with the expressed will of the British
:14:19. > :14:24.people, we will no longer be members of the single market. We will make
:14:25. > :14:28.sure that we can strike trade agreements with countries from
:14:29. > :14:34.outside the European Union. Because important though trade with the EU
:14:35. > :14:37.is and will remain, it is clear the UK needs to increase significantly
:14:38. > :14:43.its trade with the fastest-growing export markets in the world. We hope
:14:44. > :14:47.to continue to collaborate with European partners in science,
:14:48. > :14:52.education, research and technology, said the UK is one of the best
:14:53. > :14:57.places for science and innovation and we seek cooperation with our
:14:58. > :15:05.European partners in important areas such as crime, terrorism and foreign
:15:06. > :15:07.affairs and it is our aim to deliver a smoother quarterly Brexit,
:15:08. > :15:11.reaching agreement about future partnership by the time the Article
:15:12. > :15:16.50 process has concluded and moving into a process of implementation in
:15:17. > :15:20.which Britain, EU institutions and member states prepare for the new
:15:21. > :15:26.arrangements that will exist between us. We understand that there will be
:15:27. > :15:27.consequences for the UK of leaving the EU. We know we will lose
:15:28. > :15:35.influence... We know that we will lose influence
:15:36. > :15:39.over the rules that affect the European economy. We know that UK
:15:40. > :15:44.companies that trade with the EU will have to align with rules agreed
:15:45. > :15:47.by institutions of which we are no longer part. Just as we do in other
:15:48. > :15:54.overseas markets. And we accept that. However, we approach these
:15:55. > :15:57.talks constructively, respectfully and in a spirit of Cisse
:15:58. > :16:01.Corporation, for it is in the interest of both the UK and the
:16:02. > :16:06.European Union that we use this process to deliver our objectives in
:16:07. > :16:09.a fair and orderly manner. Is it is in the interests of both the United
:16:10. > :16:14.Kingdom and the European Union that there should be as little disruption
:16:15. > :16:17.as possible, and it is in the interests of both the United Kingdom
:16:18. > :16:20.and the European Union that Europe should remain strong, prosperous and
:16:21. > :16:26.capable of projecting its values in the world. At a time when the growth
:16:27. > :16:29.of global trade is slowing and there are signs the protectionist
:16:30. > :16:36.instincts are on the rise in many parts of the world, Europe has a
:16:37. > :16:39.responsibility to stand up for free trade in interest of all our
:16:40. > :16:45.citizens. With Europe's security more fragile today than at any time
:16:46. > :16:48.since the end of the Cold War, weakening our Corporation and
:16:49. > :16:54.failing to stand up for European values would be a costly mistake.
:16:55. > :16:58.Our vote to leave the EU was no rejection of the values we share as
:16:59. > :17:02.fellow Europeans. As a fellow European country, we will continue
:17:03. > :17:07.to play our part in promoting and supporting those values during the
:17:08. > :17:11.negotiations and once they are done. We will continue to be reliable
:17:12. > :17:15.partners, willing allies and close friends. We want to continue to buy
:17:16. > :17:20.goods and services from the EU and sell them hours. We want to trade
:17:21. > :17:24.with them as freely as possible, and work together to make sure we are
:17:25. > :17:28.all safer, more secure and more prosperous through continued
:17:29. > :17:32.friendship. Indeed in an increasingly unstable world, we must
:17:33. > :17:35.continue to forge the closest possible security cooperation to
:17:36. > :17:40.keep our people safe. We face the same global threats from terrorism
:17:41. > :17:43.and extremism. That message was only reinforced by the Borren to tack on
:17:44. > :17:48.Westminster Bridge and this place last week. -- the abhorrent attack.
:17:49. > :17:53.So there is no reason why they should not be a special partnership
:17:54. > :17:58.between the UK and the EU that works for us all. Mr Speaker, I know that
:17:59. > :18:03.this is a day of celebration for some disappointment for others. The
:18:04. > :18:07.referendum last June was divisive at times. Not everyone shared the same
:18:08. > :18:11.point of view or voted the same way. The arguments on both sides were
:18:12. > :18:14.passionate. But Mr Speaker, when I sit around the negotiating table in
:18:15. > :18:21.the months ahead, I will represent every person in the United Kingdom,
:18:22. > :18:25.young and old, rich and poor, city, town, country and all the villages
:18:26. > :18:29.and hamlets in between. And yes, those EU nationals who have made
:18:30. > :18:32.this country their home. And it is my fierce determination to get the
:18:33. > :18:37.right deal for every single person in this country. For as we face the
:18:38. > :18:42.opportunities ahead of us on this momentum journey, our shared values,
:18:43. > :18:46.interests and ambitions can and must bring us together. We all want to
:18:47. > :18:51.see a Britain that is stronger than it is today. We all want a country
:18:52. > :18:55.that is fairer so that everyone has the chance to succeed. We all want a
:18:56. > :19:00.nation that is safe and secure for our children and grandchildren. We
:19:01. > :19:03.all want to live in a truly global Britain that gets out and build
:19:04. > :19:07.relationships with old friends and new allies around the world. These
:19:08. > :19:12.are the ambitions of this Government was my plan for Britain, ambitions
:19:13. > :19:16.that unite us so we are no longer defined by the vote we cast but by
:19:17. > :19:21.our determination to make a success of the result. We are one great
:19:22. > :19:27.union of people and nations with a proud history and a bright future.
:19:28. > :19:30.And now that the decision to leave has been made and the process is
:19:31. > :19:34.under way, it is time to come together. For this great national
:19:35. > :19:41.moment needs a great national effort. An effort to shape a
:19:42. > :19:46.stronger future for Britain. So let us do so together. Let us come
:19:47. > :19:51.together and work together. Let us together choose to believe in
:19:52. > :19:56.Britain with optimism and hope. For if we do, we can make the most of
:19:57. > :20:00.the opportunities ahead. We can together make a success of this
:20:01. > :20:05.moment. And we can together will they stronger, fairer, better
:20:06. > :20:08.Britain, a Britain our children and grandchildren are proud to call
:20:09. > :20:15.home. I commend this statement to the House.
:20:16. > :20:22.Thank you, Mr Speaker. I would like to thank the Prime Minister for an
:20:23. > :20:28.advance copy of her statement. Today we embark on the country's most
:20:29. > :20:33.important negotiations in modern times. The British people made the
:20:34. > :20:37.decision to leave the European Union, and Labour respect that
:20:38. > :20:42.decision. The next steps along this journey are the most crucial. If the
:20:43. > :20:47.Prime Minister is to unite the country as she says she aims to do,
:20:48. > :20:55.the Government needs to listen, consult and represent the whole
:20:56. > :21:01.country, not just the hardline Tory ideologues on our own benches.
:21:02. > :21:06.Britain is going to change as a result of leaving the European
:21:07. > :21:11.Union. The question is, how? There are Conservatives who want to use
:21:12. > :21:17.Brexit to turn this country into a low-wage tax havens.
:21:18. > :21:27.Labour is determined to invest in a high skill, high-tech, high wage
:21:28. > :21:35.future, to rebuild and transform Britain, so that no one and no
:21:36. > :21:38.community is left behind. Mr Speaker, the direction the Prime
:21:39. > :21:41.Minister is threatening to take this country in is both a reckless and
:21:42. > :21:47.damaging. And Labour will not give this Government a free hand to use
:21:48. > :21:55.Brexit to attack rights, protections and cut services, or create a tax
:21:56. > :22:02.dodgers' paradise. So let me be clear, Mr Speaker. The Prime
:22:03. > :22:10.Minister says that no deal is better than a bad deal. But the reality is,
:22:11. > :22:16.no deal is a bad deal. Less than a year ago, the Treasury estimated
:22:17. > :22:25.that leaving the European Union on World Trade Organisation terms would
:22:26. > :22:31.lead to a 7.5% fall in our GDP. And ?45 billion lost in tax receipts.
:22:32. > :22:37.Has the Treasury updated those figures, or do they still stand? If
:22:38. > :22:46.updated, can they be published? If not, what deal could be worse than
:22:47. > :22:49.those consequences of no deal? It would be a national failure of
:22:50. > :22:54.historic proportions if the Prime Minister comes back from Brussels
:22:55. > :23:00.without having secured protection for jobs and living standards. So we
:23:01. > :23:04.will use every Parliamentary opportunity to ensure this
:23:05. > :23:12.Government is held to account at every stage of the negotiations. Mr
:23:13. > :23:14.Speaker, we all have an interest in ensuring the Prime Minister gets the
:23:15. > :23:19.best deal for this country. To safeguard jobs, living standards, we
:23:20. > :23:24.do need full access to the single market. The Secretary of State for
:23:25. > :23:31.exiting the EU seems to agree on this. He stated in this House on the
:23:32. > :23:35.24th of January the Government plan is, and I quote, a comprehensive
:23:36. > :23:40.free trade agreement and a comprehensive customs agreement that
:23:41. > :23:48.will deliver the exact same benefits as we have. So that is what they
:23:49. > :23:51.pledged. So will the Prime Minister confirmed today that she intends to
:23:52. > :23:56.deliver a trade and customs agreement with the exact same
:23:57. > :24:01.benefits? The same goes for protecting workers' right and
:24:02. > :24:06.environmental standards, protecting Britain's nations and regions,
:24:07. > :24:11.protecting Britain's financial sector and services and making sure
:24:12. > :24:17.there is no return to a hard border in Northern Ireland. And when, Mr
:24:18. > :24:24.Speaker, does she expect to be able to guarantee the rights of all those
:24:25. > :24:28.EU nationals who live, work and make such a massive and welcome
:24:29. > :24:35.contribution to this country? And for those British and is who live in
:24:36. > :24:39.all parts of the European Union, including guaranteeing that they
:24:40. > :24:51.were a pensions will not be frozen post-Brexit. Brexit would be a huge
:24:52. > :24:55.task for any Government. But so far they seem utterly complacent about
:24:56. > :24:57.the scale of the task ahead. The Government Ministers cannot make up
:24:58. > :25:03.their minds about the real objective. The Foreign Secretary, he
:25:04. > :25:08.is here today, said in October, our policy is having our cake and eating
:25:09. > :25:15.it. How apposite from the Foreign Secretary. Today, the Chancellor on
:25:16. > :25:22.BBC Radio 4 said, we can't have our cake and eat it. Maybe they should
:25:23. > :25:25.get together and talk about it. These at one level Mr Speaker might
:25:26. > :25:30.seem like a flippant exchanges from Ministers, but they do reflect
:25:31. > :25:34.serious differences about Britain's negotiating aims. The Government
:25:35. > :25:39.must speak with a united voice. However, the Foreign Secretary is
:25:40. > :25:47.the same man who promised our National Health Service ?350 million
:25:48. > :25:54.a week once we left the EU. Now he believes that leaving the EU without
:25:55. > :25:58.a deal would be perfectly OK. It would not be perfectly OK, it would
:25:59. > :26:03.damage our economy and people's living standards. Will the Prime
:26:04. > :26:10.Minister confirmed that she rejects such complacency? Labour set out our
:26:11. > :26:13.tests for this Government 's Brexit negotiations, and we will use all
:26:14. > :26:18.means possible to make sure we hold the Government to this word. An full
:26:19. > :26:22.access to the single market, on protecting Britain from being
:26:23. > :26:25.dragged into a race for the bottom, and ensuring our future relationship
:26:26. > :26:30.with the European Union is strong and cooperative. A relationship
:26:31. > :26:35.where we can work together to bring prosperity and peace to our
:26:36. > :26:40.continent. If the Prime Minister can deliver aid Eildon meets our tests,
:26:41. > :26:43.that will be fine, we will backfire. More than ever, Britain needs a
:26:44. > :26:48.Government that will deliver for the whole country, not just a few, and
:26:49. > :26:55.that is the ultimate test of the Brexit deal, that the Prime Minister
:26:56. > :27:09.must now secure. I'm grateful to the right honourable gentleman.
:27:10. > :27:16.Live coverage is continual BBC Parliament. At this point, we also
:27:17. > :27:21.welcome viewers on the BBC News Channel.
:27:22. > :27:28.We can show you a picture of the actual letter being handed over.
:27:29. > :27:36.There is our man in Brussels. Handing over the letter, five or six
:27:37. > :27:41.pages. Donald Tusk is the chairman of the Council Of Ministers. That Is
:27:42. > :27:45.The Body In The Eu In Which Every Member, Or 28 Members, Including
:27:46. > :27:52.Britain, So Far Set. They Determine The Broad Negotiating Position that
:27:53. > :27:55.the EU 27 will have in these talks. They then asked the commission, the
:27:56. > :28:03.European Commission, to carry out the talks. Michel Barnier is the
:28:04. > :28:08.representative that will be the lead negotiator. The European Parliament
:28:09. > :28:15.then has a say if and when the deal is done. An historic moment, as
:28:16. > :28:18.Britain's triggering of the departure of the European Union is
:28:19. > :28:22.handed over to Donald Tusk in Brussels. The Prime Minister said
:28:23. > :28:26.that there can now be no turning back. She thought it was a great
:28:27. > :28:32.turning point, she thought our best days lie ahead. She wanted to see
:28:33. > :28:37.outside of the EU a stronger, fairer, more united country, a
:28:38. > :28:41.magnet for talent, a global Britain that continued to trade with the
:28:42. > :28:47.European Union, but also traded far beyond the European Union as well.
:28:48. > :28:55.She said, a significant point of process, that she wants to agree the
:28:56. > :29:00.terms of our departure, as well as any sort of divorce bill. She did
:29:01. > :29:03.not use that phrase, divorce bill, but in negotiating any costs that
:29:04. > :29:07.Britain may incur to leave the EU, she wants to negotiate the terms of
:29:08. > :29:12.our relationship with the EU once we leave. That is going to be a nearly
:29:13. > :29:17.stumbling block, because the Europeans want to agree any kind of
:29:18. > :29:23.divorce Bill first, before they talk about new relationships. In the end,
:29:24. > :29:28.she did point out that, in or out, we face the same global threats as
:29:29. > :29:32.the European Union. She wanted a new, deep and special partnership
:29:33. > :29:36.with the European Union, even after we left. I suppose, although there
:29:37. > :29:40.is nothing greatly new in the content of the Prime Minister's
:29:41. > :29:46.statement, nor is there anything greatly new in the letter that we
:29:47. > :29:49.have just had a chance to skim, that you saw Donald Tusk getting, the
:29:50. > :29:55.tone was interesting. It was a highly conciliatory tone. It was an
:29:56. > :30:02.attempt to position Britain as even outside the EU, a big supporter of
:30:03. > :30:07.the EU. There were no threats in the Prime Minister's statement, no
:30:08. > :30:10.statement like no deal is better than a bad deal. I think the Prime
:30:11. > :30:17.Minister is trying to set the tone for the talks as they get under way,
:30:18. > :30:21.tried to create an amicable environment in which they get under
:30:22. > :30:25.way. Whether or not that succeeds or not is another matter. Let's get
:30:26. > :30:30.reaction from Laura Kuenssberg, our political editor, who was listening
:30:31. > :30:35.to that. The key thing about this is exactly as you say, the tone here is
:30:36. > :30:39.a world away from Theresa May Mark 1, as you might say, in her
:30:40. > :30:48.conference speech in October, where she was much more strident. Then the
:30:49. > :30:52.Lancaster House speech, which she made to a room of diplomats. But she
:30:53. > :30:56.have that threat in her speech to walk away if it didn't happen. Then
:30:57. > :31:02.here, some people might say she is being pragmatic because it is time
:31:03. > :31:05.to talk, a very different tone. A lot of warm language about European
:31:06. > :31:14.values. Indeed, that Britain would stay part of those. Donald Tusk, a
:31:15. > :31:17.pivotal figure in the upcoming negotiations, he is now speaking in
:31:18. > :31:24.Brussels. Let's hear what he has to say.
:31:25. > :31:41.well, we would like to hear what he had to say. We could lip-read.
:31:42. > :31:48.Interrupting Laura Kuenssberg, in full flight, to listen to a man that
:31:49. > :31:52.we cannot here is unforgivable! You are talking about the importance of
:31:53. > :31:58.the tone? The bold threat that no deal is better than a bad deal, that
:31:59. > :32:01.is nowhere to be seen in here. What one senior MP was saying late last
:32:02. > :32:06.night, the challenge for Theresa May was to seem resolute, but also
:32:07. > :32:14.constructive, to be the iron fist in a velvet glove. I think this is very
:32:15. > :32:25.much a velvet glove, not iron fist. We might be able to hear Donald
:32:26. > :32:36.Tusk. In essence, this is about damage control. Our goal is clear.
:32:37. > :32:46.To minimise the cost for the EU citizens, businesses and members. We
:32:47. > :32:54.will do everything in our power, to achieve this goal. What we should
:32:55. > :33:02.stress today is that, as for now, nothing has changed. Until the
:33:03. > :33:10.United Kingdom leaves the European Union, EU law will continue to apply
:33:11. > :33:14.to and within the UK. Finally, I would like to say that you have just
:33:15. > :33:22.released an official statement by the European Council, in which the
:33:23. > :33:26.leaders stressed that we will act as one and start negotiations by
:33:27. > :33:32.focusing on key arrangements for an orderly withdrawal. On Friday, I
:33:33. > :33:40.will share a proposal on the negotiating guidelines with the
:33:41. > :33:51.member states, to be adopted by the European Council on the 29th of
:33:52. > :33:55.April. I will refer to this, and I will present our proposals on
:33:56. > :34:11.Friday, during the press conference in Malta. What can I add to this?
:34:12. > :34:18.Thank you and goodbye. Donald Tusk, the President of the Council Of
:34:19. > :34:21.Europe, which contains all 28 members of the EU. They meet as
:34:22. > :34:28.heads of state, heads of government, a sombre, almost sad mood on
:34:29. > :34:32.receiving Britain's Article 50 application to begin the process of
:34:33. > :34:39.withdrawal from the European Union. There was no talk of punishment
:34:40. > :34:43.beatings or being angry because Britain is leaving. Sad, clearly, as
:34:44. > :34:49.you could see, but not anger. He talked of damage control, that he
:34:50. > :34:53.wanted to say that the job of the EU 27 is to control the damage that
:34:54. > :34:58.Britain's withdrawal from the European Union could do to the
:34:59. > :35:03.remaining 27 members. He said the council of Europe will act as one in
:35:04. > :35:07.negotiations. What happens now is that Donald Tusk has drawn up some
:35:08. > :35:10.guidelines for the EU 27's negotiating position. They are
:35:11. > :35:14.becoming public, they will be debated within the 27, and then
:35:15. > :35:19.heads of state and heads of government of the EU 27 will meet
:35:20. > :35:24.towards the end of April, I think it is the 28th 29th of April, and they
:35:25. > :35:31.will endorse the bargaining position of the EU 27 as they begin
:35:32. > :35:34.negotiations, probably sometime, I doubt before the end of may or early
:35:35. > :35:40.June. The negotiations are with Michel Barnier, tasked with carrying
:35:41. > :35:47.out the negotiating positions, and he will meet with David Davis, the
:35:48. > :35:51.Secretary of State for Brexit. Just as the Prime Minister's tone was
:35:52. > :35:54.interesting, so Donald Tusk's tone was interesting in the press
:35:55. > :35:59.conference he just gave in Brussels. Many people in London suggest that
:36:00. > :36:03.he would be something of an ally in these negotiations. He wants to get
:36:04. > :36:08.a deal done. He is Polish, and Eastern Europe, he said all 27 will
:36:09. > :36:12.have to have the same position, but we know that there are differences
:36:13. > :36:18.between the original members of the Treaty of Rome and the Eastern
:36:19. > :36:23.European members that came late to the game. They come in particular,
:36:24. > :36:25.want a deal done for EU nationals living in the United Kingdom.
:36:26. > :36:33.Theresa Villiers, what has been your reaction to the Prime Minister's
:36:34. > :36:36.statement and Donald Tusk? I think both are trying to be very positive
:36:37. > :36:39.and set a constructive tone. I hope that reflects a recognition that,
:36:40. > :36:44.actually, these negotiations could leave both sides better off. It
:36:45. > :36:47.doesn't have to be a 0-sum game. It is in the interests of the
:36:48. > :36:55.continuing EU and UK that we come out of this with a flourishing
:36:56. > :37:01.trading relationship between us. The Prime Minister, a symbolic moment,
:37:02. > :37:05.the pulling of the trigger. In some ways, an anti-climax, because she
:37:06. > :37:08.was repeating the points we knew from the white Paper. This is the
:37:09. > :37:13.irony about taking back control. You get the sense that attention is very
:37:14. > :37:19.much an Donald Tusk as to what the negotiating stance will be. Until
:37:20. > :37:25.now, this has all been about what the UK Government's reaction to the
:37:26. > :37:28.referendum will be. I am very worried, because I think the tone
:37:29. > :37:31.that we heard from Donald Tusk was certainly one of regret. He is
:37:32. > :37:34.obviously very sad. He said he was sorry to lose you. When they say
:37:35. > :37:39.damage control, from my conversations with those in the rest
:37:40. > :37:43.of the European Union, they also recognise, politically, that to glue
:37:44. > :37:50.the rest of the EU together they have to make sure that Britain does
:37:51. > :37:54.not Prospero is well outside the EU as it did within it. Apart from
:37:55. > :38:00.saying they are going to approach the talks constructively, he says
:38:01. > :38:03.that the union will act as one and preserve its interests. That is the
:38:04. > :38:08.self-interest point, as you would expect. What kind of union is it, if
:38:09. > :38:14.somebody wants to leave you have to give them a bad time so nobody else
:38:15. > :38:21.leaves? Oh, no, certainly I want Britain to do the best possible
:38:22. > :38:26.thing. We have negotiations. But if the EU is under strain is as it was
:38:27. > :38:32.recently, they want to glue it together. Let's just stand back. The
:38:33. > :38:35.geopolitics of this does not get coverage. Let's look at Europe's
:38:36. > :38:43.position at the moment. To the east it faces a group of autocrats, come
:38:44. > :38:48.dictators, who are threatening its borders from hard and soft power. To
:38:49. > :38:53.the west, a hostile American administration. For the first time
:38:54. > :38:57.ever, an administration that doesn't seem to care about the EU, whether
:38:58. > :39:03.it lives or dies. To the south, the continued outflow and carnage of the
:39:04. > :39:07.Arab Spring, and the huge refugee problem that has brought. When you
:39:08. > :39:12.look at Europe come on three sides, with real problems on its hands, why
:39:13. > :39:15.would you pick a fight with Britain? You picked the right way of
:39:16. > :39:19.characterising it. I was in Germany last week, talking to politicians.
:39:20. > :39:22.They put Brexit in the same basket, with all of these threats and
:39:23. > :39:28.challenges. For them, it is just one of many. The mood that I picked up
:39:29. > :39:32.is that they are trying to glue each other together. In doing so, that
:39:33. > :39:36.might mean proving that you are better off staying within the
:39:37. > :39:41.European Union. That, I worry about. I think they will have to illustrate
:39:42. > :39:46.that we are losing out. But the European Union may well come to the
:39:47. > :39:53.view that for at least two Matt Rodda three problems it faces it
:39:54. > :39:58.really needs Britain's help. -- the two or three problems. It needs to's
:39:59. > :40:01.help on its eastern border, and it needs their help to get some sense
:40:02. > :40:07.out of the trap administration, as they would see it. Again, why would
:40:08. > :40:12.you want to pick a fight? That is one of the things that Number 10 is
:40:13. > :40:17.banking on. That is why, privately, it is clear that part of the
:40:18. > :40:21.strategy is to divide and rule, for Britain to appeal to countries on an
:40:22. > :40:25.individual basis, particularly confusing Eastern Europe, they need
:40:26. > :40:29.is for security for the reasons you have outlined. They will be looking
:40:30. > :40:32.at the 27 different countries around the table, looking at individual
:40:33. > :40:36.agendas and interests, all of the individual ways where they can be
:40:37. > :40:40.persuaded that they need Britain. That is why we have heard so much
:40:41. > :40:45.out of Brussels about the importance of sticking together. What Britain
:40:46. > :40:49.wants to do is go around. One minister put it like this, I said
:40:50. > :40:55.the further you go from Brussels, the more optimistic I feel about
:40:56. > :40:58.getting a deal that actually works for us. That is one of the tactics
:40:59. > :41:02.they are going to employ. Security get a prominent mention in this
:41:03. > :41:06.letter. I remember the first summit that Theresa May went to as Prime
:41:07. > :41:10.Minister, in the very, very short window she was given to speak at the
:41:11. > :41:14.end of the dinner. She tried, even at that early stage, to nudge the
:41:15. > :41:18.leaders gathered there, to start thinking about security. Most of the
:41:19. > :41:21.focus has been on trade. But Number 10 has been trying to edge them into
:41:22. > :41:26.thinking about security as well, partly because it is so important.
:41:27. > :41:30.Also, just to reflect on, that is the area where Theresa May, as a
:41:31. > :41:36.politician, feels more comfortable, because of her background as Home
:41:37. > :41:38.Secretary. There is also increasing resentment in the Eastern European
:41:39. > :41:42.countries that too much is determined by the original Treaty of
:41:43. > :41:47.Rome countries. They have a different perspective on this. We do
:41:48. > :41:54.know something is already about the European position, the EU position,
:41:55. > :41:59.Michel Barnier will be a seminal article in The Financial Times this
:42:00. > :42:05.week. He also wanted a deal and reciprocal rights for EU citizens in
:42:06. > :42:11.the UK and UK citizens in the EU. He wanted it done quickly. Is that
:42:12. > :42:15.looking likely? I think there is a hope on both sides that it can be
:42:16. > :42:20.done. One of the interesting things that was suggested to me is, had
:42:21. > :42:23.Theresa May broached this early on with the European Council, rather
:42:24. > :42:27.than going straight to Angela Merkel, she might have been able to
:42:28. > :42:30.get a deal and get it off the table. But there was offset in European
:42:31. > :42:34.capitals, rather than going through what they have been determined to
:42:35. > :42:39.see as the proper processes, that it was not possible for Angela Merkel
:42:40. > :42:42.to say yes or no to anything as an individual item. It seems on both
:42:43. > :42:47.sides, genuinely, that there is a desire to get this done and get it
:42:48. > :42:51.off the table. Every politician has come in their own countries, people
:42:52. > :42:55.that are anxious about this. And they need reassured? Exactly, it is
:42:56. > :42:59.hard to see the advantage to anybody in playing this long. That is one of
:43:00. > :43:02.the advantages for the British Government. The other priority that
:43:03. > :43:10.reads through almost every line is there hope to be able to get both
:43:11. > :43:14.aspects done at the same time. To be able to talk about withdrawal, the
:43:15. > :43:21.divorce, if you like, as well as the future trade deals. So, the British
:43:22. > :43:27.Government, reciprocal rights, that might come good. You have just moved
:43:28. > :43:30.on to something that could combat? That could come back, and this is
:43:31. > :43:43.likely to be the first really big fight. It is known as parallelism
:43:44. > :43:50.versus sequential -ism. I mentioned it on other programmes, so I thought
:43:51. > :43:54.it was right to mention that on the daily politics as well. The
:43:55. > :43:58.government is determined that we talk about this stuff, how we leave,
:43:59. > :44:05.and what happens afterwards at the same time. In Brussels, not
:44:06. > :44:08.necessarily every European capital, but in Brussels they wanted tie of
:44:09. > :44:13.the divorce, get it done, settled the cash before talking about the
:44:14. > :44:17.next bit. The two documents that have come out, the 6-page letter
:44:18. > :44:21.from the Prime Minister and the short response from the European
:44:22. > :44:25.Council, they display how much they are at odds. The British hope is to
:44:26. > :44:36.be able to agree the principles of the divorce deal, if not every
:44:37. > :44:39.dotted I and crossed T, they can at least get on with it. That will be
:44:40. > :44:45.the first fight, not least because the Brexit bill is part of that.
:44:46. > :44:52.What about the draft resolution. We do not want to overstate because
:44:53. > :44:55.they will not be critical to the negotiations but it has been leaked
:44:56. > :45:00.and it has a tougher tone that we have heard from Theresa May or
:45:01. > :45:04.Donald Tusk about the timescale, the trade deal and a transitional
:45:05. > :45:08.arrangement. The European Parliament has magically managed to put into
:45:09. > :45:13.the public domain there early response. Not as if they are trying
:45:14. > :45:17.to get into this process and have a more prominent role, they are not in
:45:18. > :45:22.the driving seat, they do have a role. They say we could only have a
:45:23. > :45:27.transitional deal of three years maximum and essentially saying you
:45:28. > :45:32.cannot do this on your timetable, it is not realistic. To overstate it
:45:33. > :45:37.would be a mistake that it is important. There is scepticism about
:45:38. > :45:46.our timetable. There are plenty of people who do want to make it hard,
:45:47. > :45:50.make it tough. They said they have Michel Barnier's mark all over it. A
:45:51. > :45:55.couple of things briefly. Worth picking out from the letter, the
:45:56. > :46:01.difference about tone. A couple of things are significant, it says
:46:02. > :46:05.plainly the government wants early agreement on phased implementation
:46:06. > :46:10.some ministers have been careful not to advocate full transitional
:46:11. > :46:14.agreements, a separate deal, leaving the EU with stabilisers. It is plain
:46:15. > :46:21.from this letter they think there will have to be a soft departure in
:46:22. > :46:24.some parts of the deal. The other thing, in black-and-white, the Prime
:46:25. > :46:29.Minister was at pains to mention, significant powers coming back from
:46:30. > :46:33.Brussels will go to the devolved administrations, she was clear to
:46:34. > :46:36.point that out. There will be suspicion in SNP circles about how
:46:37. > :46:50.much would end up going to Hollywood. -- Holyrood. Chris
:46:51. > :46:54.Leslie, do you think that Britain over a large exit bill, a
:46:55. > :46:59.multi-billion pound exit bill? This will be the big early debate and I
:47:00. > :47:06.doubt very much the European Union side of the negotiation will cede
:47:07. > :47:09.the parallelism. While they want to sort out that bill. There might be
:47:10. > :47:16.liabilities in terms of commitments we have made historically. We might
:47:17. > :47:23.have had the UK say spending on European projects to 2020, but there
:47:24. > :47:30.are also assets. In any divorce... You have to split them up. Do you
:47:31. > :47:35.think it will be 50 billion? It sounds like an opening gambit. The
:47:36. > :47:43.worry I have is that, and we should have been on top of parallelism
:47:44. > :47:46.months ago. I have been banging on about it for months because it
:47:47. > :47:50.should have been a condition of the trigger, to sort out the process
:47:51. > :47:55.before we handed them what they wanted, but I worry about the hard
:47:56. > :47:59.Brexiteers view because any compromise they might say, no deal,
:48:00. > :48:06.let's go to WTO. We are going to Ben Brown in Brussels. Before that,
:48:07. > :48:10.Theresa Villiers, it would be politically difficult if not
:48:11. > :48:14.impossible for the Theresa May government to agree any kind of
:48:15. > :48:19.Brexit bill, any divorce bill, without having a good idea what our
:48:20. > :48:25.future relationship with the EU would be after we leave? You make a
:48:26. > :48:29.good point. It was a question. In most negotiations there is a
:48:30. > :48:33.principle nothing is agreed until everything is agreed and I think if
:48:34. > :48:38.the government is going to compromise on money, they will not
:48:39. > :48:45.want to make the decision at an early stage, divorce from the debate
:48:46. > :48:49.on our future relationship. I think we can expect the initial skirmishes
:48:50. > :48:55.of the negotiations. Whether they are parallel or not. That might be
:48:56. > :48:59.one of the first things David Davis and Michel Barnier have to resolve.
:49:00. > :49:07.We can go to Ben Brown in Brussels. Give us a feeling, what is the mood
:49:08. > :49:13.now that this historic event has taken place?
:49:14. > :49:20.Probably a mood of sadness in Brussels as you might expect. Which
:49:21. > :49:25.was reflected in Donald Tusk's tone, sadness, a bit of sarcasm perhaps in
:49:26. > :49:29.his tweets that after nine months the United Kingdom has triggered
:49:30. > :49:34.Brexit, almost saying, why has it taken so long after the referendum?
:49:35. > :49:39.You have to remember the EU throughout its history has only
:49:40. > :49:46.grown and had countries knocking out its door, saying please let us into
:49:47. > :49:48.your club and suddenly you have got the British permanent representative
:49:49. > :49:54.handing a letter to Donald Tusk saying we want out of your club, so
:49:55. > :50:00.it is a new experience for the EU and their identity, I think.
:50:01. > :50:07.One thing we have not quite cottoned onto enough is the importance of
:50:08. > :50:17.money for the EU 27, that Britain is one of only a handful of net donors
:50:18. > :50:23.to the EU. And that with Britain going it leaves a hole in finances.
:50:24. > :50:27.Net donors do not want to pay more and net recipients are worried they
:50:28. > :50:33.could lose out. I would suggest it is a factor in the EU position.
:50:34. > :50:38.I think it absolutely is, it is a lot of money. The EU will be poor
:50:39. > :50:42.all-round with Britain leaving and that is an issue in the coming
:50:43. > :50:49.negotiations and what you have to remember is there are 27 countries
:50:50. > :50:55.left. The EU has rules and likes to stick by rules because if you have
:50:56. > :51:00.27 members, you have to have rules because all the countries are so
:51:01. > :51:05.different. I think that will be... Their emphasis during negotiations,
:51:06. > :51:10.they have to stick by their rules. They can make compromises here and
:51:11. > :51:14.there but too many and it will be difficult because it will undermine
:51:15. > :51:17.their system of rules and as you suggest, the money they earn from a
:51:18. > :51:24.country like the United Kingdom. What should we make of this leaked a
:51:25. > :51:29.resolution, draft resolution from the European Parliament? It could
:51:30. > :51:35.change before it goes before Parliament. Is this the party at
:51:36. > :51:38.trying to muscle in, get it say in the negotiations? Is it
:51:39. > :51:44.representative of a strong strand of opinion? It certainly represents a
:51:45. > :51:47.strand of opinion but I think we will hear more clearly later what
:51:48. > :51:53.the European Parliament think because we will hear from their
:51:54. > :51:56.negotiator Guy Verhofstadt and their president, Antonio Tajani, this
:51:57. > :52:00.afternoon, from the European Parliament and that might give us
:52:01. > :52:05.more clarity and also, we have only heard a little from Donald Tusk, the
:52:06. > :52:10.president of the European Council. We will hear more from him on Friday
:52:11. > :52:15.when he outlines his response to Theresa May's letter and his broad
:52:16. > :52:20.negotiating position, and possibly the EU red lines. Perhaps we have to
:52:21. > :52:30.wait for Friday for more clarity. Thanks. Theresa Villiers, is the
:52:31. > :52:37.British timetable realistic? We need to negotiate the terms of the
:52:38. > :52:43.divorce and that will involve money. The mat could be debatable. We need
:52:44. > :52:47.to agree a complicated new trade deal to replace the membership of
:52:48. > :52:52.the single market involving 27 countries and put in place new
:52:53. > :52:57.security arrangements, like the Europol arrangement, whether we have
:52:58. > :53:01.a health card as we go around and then it has to be ratified by the
:53:02. > :53:08.European Parliament and 27 members as well as our own government. Given
:53:09. > :53:12.the negotiations are not likely to be under way until October and after
:53:13. > :53:21.the German election, is it realistic it could be done by 2018? I think it
:53:22. > :53:26.can be done but it is going to be a difficult process. Are we looking
:53:27. > :53:30.more that there will have to be some kind of transition period, that it
:53:31. > :53:34.cannot all be resolved in that period of time? The government has
:53:35. > :53:39.talked about phased implementation. That is different. You are right. It
:53:40. > :53:44.depends on what transitional arrangements. Some might be
:53:45. > :53:48.acceptable but anything that leaves us locked into EU rules three years
:53:49. > :53:53.in the future would not be acceptable. Donald Tusk we heard
:53:54. > :53:57.earlier saying how sad he is that Britain has triggered Article 50 and
:53:58. > :54:03.he referred when he was talking to the press about a statement from the
:54:04. > :54:08.EU 27, the other member states. I will read an excerpt. We regret the
:54:09. > :54:13.UK will leave the European Union but we are ready for the process we have
:54:14. > :54:18.to follow and for the European Union the first step will be the adoption
:54:19. > :54:21.of guidelines the negotiations by the European Council. These
:54:22. > :54:26.guidelines will set out the overall positions and principles in light of
:54:27. > :54:32.which the union represented by the European Commission will negotiate
:54:33. > :54:36.with the United Kingdom. Their key negotiator Michel Barnier. In these
:54:37. > :54:40.negotiations the union will act as one and preserve its interests and
:54:41. > :54:44.the first priority will be to minimise the uncertainty caused by
:54:45. > :54:47.the decision by the UK for our citizens and member states and we
:54:48. > :54:53.will focus on key arrangements for an orderly withdrawal. Let's get
:54:54. > :54:53.some reaction to that and the day's events.
:54:54. > :54:56.We're joined now by the former Green Party leader, Natalie Bennett,
:54:57. > :54:58.from Sheffield and the Ukip Deputy leader, Peter Whittle,
:54:59. > :55:07.Welcome. Peter Whittle, what is your reaction on this momentous day and
:55:08. > :55:15.the facts Theresa May has triggered Article 50? This is something we
:55:16. > :55:20.have waited for a long time. It is a hugely historic day and I am very
:55:21. > :55:24.pleased. It is a long time coming. David Cameron said that he would
:55:25. > :55:30.trigger it the day after the referendum, we could have done that,
:55:31. > :55:35.we could have spared ourselves. The ten months of this toing and froing
:55:36. > :55:39.and drip of negativity and indeed billions of taxpayers' money paid
:55:40. > :55:44.into the EU, but it is done now and we are on our way. We have to make
:55:45. > :55:48.sure people get exactly what they voted for at the end of the
:55:49. > :55:55.negotiations. How will you be the guard dogs of Brexit, a term used by
:55:56. > :56:02.someone in Ukip? How will you hold Theresa May's feet to the fire? My
:56:03. > :56:06.party has a unique reputation for managing to put pressure on the
:56:07. > :56:10.political world without even having representation. We got the
:56:11. > :56:15.referendum in the first place. Nobody believes it would have
:56:16. > :56:19.happened without us. By putting pressure on the government to ensure
:56:20. > :56:26.we have complete control of our borders, complete control over
:56:27. > :56:31.legislature in this House, behind me, and that all of these vital
:56:32. > :56:38.parts of Brexit are upheld and there is no backsliding. We have managed
:56:39. > :56:42.to do that already. We will hear from Natalie Bennett. What is your
:56:43. > :56:48.reaction, are used satellite Donald Tusk about what is happened? Very
:56:49. > :56:51.much so and I think we need to reflect on the sadness of millions
:56:52. > :56:58.of Britons, particularly young people whose lives now look a bit
:56:59. > :57:03.smaller. People like a student I met in Sheffield Hallam University who
:57:04. > :57:07.is about to go off on the Rasmus scholarship, an exciting time, but
:57:08. > :57:11.he was thinking of younger people coming behind him who might not have
:57:12. > :57:15.the same opportunity and the risk of the loss of free movement means his
:57:16. > :57:20.life does not have the same freedoms his parents and grandparents enjoy.
:57:21. > :57:23.We need to think of young people and the parents and grandparents and
:57:24. > :57:30.acknowledging we have lost something today. We have lost the risk of
:57:31. > :57:35.losing free movement. We have risks presented now, we had environmental
:57:36. > :57:40.and workers' rights protections and for consumers that came from the EU
:57:41. > :57:44.and they are now at risk. People feel sad and worried. They will be
:57:45. > :57:50.disappointment, the word used by the Prime Minister, what is a party will
:57:51. > :57:54.you do to shake the negotiations? We will present a different vision.
:57:55. > :57:59.Theresa May seem to be in and only and mood. We see different Theresa
:58:00. > :58:07.Mays and get different messages from the government but many are about a
:58:08. > :58:12.hard bordered Britain, that is a tax haven, where workers' rights are not
:58:13. > :58:14.protected and we do not see environmental, consumer protections.
:58:15. > :58:18.Members of the government talk about getting rid of red tape. Those are
:58:19. > :58:24.the protections that keep us safe and help clean-up Britain's beaches,
:58:25. > :58:28.pushing to clean up our air, those things we will fight for as the
:58:29. > :58:33.Green Party and fighting against the idea we can be a tax haven. Having
:58:34. > :58:39.multinational companies being parasites and not paying workers
:58:40. > :58:43.properly. What do you say to what Natalie Bennett and the party will
:58:44. > :58:48.argue against? It is rubbish. The last thing we will be as small, we
:58:49. > :58:52.will be bigger, breaking out of something that is smaller and going
:58:53. > :59:00.into the world, a world developing economically far-away from Europe.
:59:01. > :59:06.Also when she talks about free movement, the fact is people voted
:59:07. > :59:13.in their millions last year to have control of our borders. It is a pure
:59:14. > :59:18.denial, denial on the part of people like Natalie who will not accept the
:59:19. > :59:24.result that that was one of the main concerns of the majority of people
:59:25. > :59:31.and the fact is uncontrolled mass migration as a result of membership
:59:32. > :59:36.of the EU. I would say we have to get the best for Britain but we also
:59:37. > :59:41.have to have complete confidence in what is the most extraordinary
:59:42. > :59:44.opportunity now. Chris Leslie, what do you say to that, that Britain
:59:45. > :59:50.will be bigger and breaking out of something smaller and the government
:59:51. > :59:55.will be able to respond to concerns about immigration as a significant
:59:56. > :59:59.part of that vote in the referendum? The realities of geography actually
:00:00. > :00:03.go against that because we are a European country. Even the Prime
:00:04. > :00:08.Minister said we are a European country. When you look at the trade
:00:09. > :00:12.and economic soffit, we would love to do deals with Australia and the
:00:13. > :00:19.States but half of our trade is with the EU. The other 27 countries. What
:00:20. > :00:24.is worse it is not just tariffs, the slowing down of the customs
:00:25. > :00:30.transactions, with 80% of the economy in the service sector, the
:00:31. > :00:33.risks of being allowed to trade in some sectors, financial services,
:00:34. > :00:40.insurance, there are big questions and if you work in those sectors,
:00:41. > :00:43.you should ask employers what certainties we have got that we will
:00:44. > :00:48.be able to do business in the way we could before today? Do you have
:00:49. > :00:53.concerns about workers' rights? About the claim made by Labour that
:00:54. > :00:58.we will become a tax haven, that to use the phrase of Jeremy Corbyn, it
:00:59. > :01:02.will be bargain basement where regulation is stripped away?
:01:03. > :01:07.Workers' rights will stay as they are or arguably be strengthened
:01:08. > :01:10.after Theresa May the's review and in terms of the environment, I
:01:11. > :01:16.believe the government has a commitment to retain almost all EU
:01:17. > :01:21.law, and we will need to look at how we regulate on environmental
:01:22. > :01:26.matters. We will continue to share the same goals as the EU but in a
:01:27. > :01:30.number of instances we can find a way to achieve these goals in a
:01:31. > :01:37.manner not so costly and over burdensome to the economy. Before we
:01:38. > :01:42.say goodbye, Peter Whittle, can you say what you thought about the tone
:01:43. > :01:46.of Theresa May's statement, the fact she talks in her letter of this
:01:47. > :01:51.special and deep partnership that she wants to retain with the EU? She
:01:52. > :02:01.talks of cooperation and talks in ebullient terms, is that what you
:02:02. > :02:07.would have done -- emollient. We cooperated with Europe before the
:02:08. > :02:13.EU. We have been at it 44 years. Just that amount of time. The fact
:02:14. > :02:17.is in all sorts of areas we would co-operate, security being one of
:02:18. > :02:23.them. The problem is for Theresa May, she has a good way of talking
:02:24. > :02:30.the talk, she talks tough and has done it on migration, Islam, and the
:02:31. > :02:34.EU. We have to make sure she walks the walk. That there is no
:02:35. > :02:40.backsliding between now and two years' time and that is vital. Peter
:02:41. > :02:47.Whittle, thanks. Natalie Bennett, a final thought, looking ahead to the
:02:48. > :02:53.negotiations. It needn't be two sides fighting each other, it could
:02:54. > :03:04.be cordial? Possibly it could be, but when we look at the British
:03:05. > :03:07.Government, the obvious fissures. A Tory party torn apart by different
:03:08. > :03:12.views on what the future looks like, it will be a difficult position for
:03:13. > :03:17.Theresa May. Peter Whittle said in Westminster we have a democratic
:03:18. > :03:25.government, but the Tory party only won the support of 24% of eligible
:03:26. > :03:29.voters in the 2015 election. Take back control, the hashtag, I agree
:03:30. > :03:34.with. We need political reform within Britain, which is where some
:03:35. > :03:40.of the crucial issues lie. All right. Thank you both.
:03:41. > :03:46.Just looking at the figures and money, Germany is the biggest net
:03:47. > :03:52.contributor. 14 billion euros a year and Britain's second with 12, France
:03:53. > :03:55.way down in six because of the Common Agricultural Policy and net
:03:56. > :03:57.contributors, a few others, but everybody else is a net recipient
:03:58. > :03:59.which shows money will be important. There's just time to put you out
:04:00. > :04:12.of your misery and give Chris Leslie, press that in front of
:04:13. > :04:23.you and we will see who won. You triggered Article 50! Trevor
:04:24. > :04:31.Arce, congratulations. You have won these special mug. That is it today
:04:32. > :04:36.and we thank our guests. At 7pm on BBC One I will interview the Prime
:04:37. > :04:41.Minister about plans for Brexit negotiations and at 7:30pm I will be
:04:42. > :04:49.joined by Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn and Lib Dem leader Tim
:04:50. > :04:53.Farron. I hope you can join me 7pm tonight on BBC One. And we will be
:04:54. > :04:54.back tomorrow with the reaction to these historic events today.
:04:55. > :04:59.Goodbye.