:00:37. > :00:43.Jeremy Corbyn unveils Labour's election manifesto -
:00:44. > :00:46.with the promise of big increases in public spending, tax rises
:00:47. > :00:48.for the better off - and a wave of re-nationalisation
:00:49. > :00:54.taking various utilities back into public ownership.
:00:55. > :00:58.Jeremy Corbyn says his "programme of hope" is fully costed.
:00:59. > :01:00.The Conservatives say Labour's sums "don't add up".
:01:01. > :01:07.We'll hear from one of Mr Corbyn's key lieutenants.
:01:08. > :01:09.Also on today's programme - former Deputy Prime Minister
:01:10. > :01:11.Nick Clegg joins us to discuss secret intelligence,
:01:12. > :01:14.the future of the Lib Dems - and political promises.
:01:15. > :01:40.And why do politicians try so hard to be cool with the kids?
:01:41. > :01:46.After weeks of interviews where politicians have had to say you will
:01:47. > :01:51.have to wait for the manifesto, we get to see the policies in detail.
:01:52. > :01:54.First out of the traps this morning was Labour, with Jeremy Corbyn
:01:55. > :01:56.unveiling his manifesto at an event in Bradford.
:01:57. > :01:58.So what are the headlines from what he calls his
:01:59. > :02:03.A future Labour government would spend a lot more on a wide
:02:04. > :02:10.Here are the headlines: An extra ?7.4 billion a year
:02:11. > :02:22.?6.3 billion more every year for schools across the UK
:02:23. > :02:24.and scrapping university tuition fees at an estimated annual
:02:25. > :02:27.And Labour would also reverse some welfare cuts,
:02:28. > :02:29.for example, they would scrap the so-called "bedroom tax".
:02:30. > :02:32.They would also recruit an extra 10,000 police officers
:02:33. > :02:35.in England and Wales at a cost of ?300 million a year.
:02:36. > :02:39.And they would end the current pay cap for public sector workers.
:02:40. > :02:42.So, to pay for all that, Labour are also proposing
:02:43. > :02:47.Corporation tax will go up to 26% by 2021 -
:02:48. > :02:59.There will also be a tax of up to 0.5% on financial transactions,
:03:00. > :03:01.that's a so-called "Robin Hood tax" on financial products
:03:02. > :03:07.And there will also a high pay levy, that's a surcharge of up to 5%
:03:08. > :03:23.on companies paying individuals more than ?500,000 a year.
:03:24. > :03:26.And income tax will also go up for the top earners -
:03:27. > :03:29.Another key feature of Labour's manifesto is a radical programme
:03:30. > :03:35.Labour wants national utilities and services to come back
:03:36. > :03:44.The recent privatisation of the Royal Mail would be reversed.
:03:45. > :03:46.Rail companies would come back into public ownership gradually
:03:47. > :03:50.Labour would also seek to nationalise the UK's
:03:51. > :03:55.And in the energy sector - Labour would seek to bring
:03:56. > :03:58.the National Grid under public control and also create regional,
:03:59. > :04:15.Let's have a look at some of what Jeremy Corbyn had to say.
:04:16. > :04:19.Today, we are setting out a manifesto to transform the 21st
:04:20. > :04:23.century in the same way that Harold Wilson in the 1960s sought to
:04:24. > :04:29.transform the 20th century. It is an absolute pleasure to be here today.
:04:30. > :04:36.This manifesto is a graft for a better future for our country. It is
:04:37. > :04:43.a blueprint of what Britain could be and a pledge of the difference a
:04:44. > :04:46.Labour government can and will make. Jeremy Corbyn speaking earlier. He
:04:47. > :04:55.is still speaking at the moment, launching this manifesto at a press
:04:56. > :04:58.conference in Bradford. We hope to speak to the Shadow Cabinet member
:04:59. > :05:03.about it but he cannot leave until the Labour leader has finished so we
:05:04. > :05:07.will have to be patient about that. The BBC's Chris Mason is with us. He
:05:08. > :05:14.has been watching the manifesto launch. He joins us now. Are there
:05:15. > :05:20.any surprises or is it much what we expected because of the league last
:05:21. > :05:23.week? We have been comparing it dry by draft and thankfully there are
:05:24. > :05:28.more people to flick through the pages that there were the other
:05:29. > :05:32.night when I went through a! Minor tweaks in language. They are
:05:33. > :05:37.promising and expansion onshore start centres were in the draft they
:05:38. > :05:46.were talking about maintaining the existing network -- and expansion of
:05:47. > :05:51.Sure Start centres. Broadly speaking it is the same. I guess the obvious
:05:52. > :05:56.conclusion, and it is obvious but it is worth three stating, is for soap,
:05:57. > :06:01.so long there was a shtick in politics where people would say what
:06:02. > :06:04.is the point, all the big parties are just the same? That is
:06:05. > :06:09.completely unsustainable now with this position with a vast
:06:10. > :06:12.nationalisation programme and a very different perspective that forward
:06:13. > :06:17.by Labour than the Conservatives. The other bit is where the scrutiny
:06:18. > :06:21.will come which is on the numbers. Labour have promised this document
:06:22. > :06:31.alongside the manifesto on their costings. The tax would be almost 50
:06:32. > :06:34.billion. By the end of the parliament, it builds up. But when
:06:35. > :06:38.you look at the small print and some of the references about how they
:06:39. > :06:43.will make numbers add up there is still plenty of scope for scrutiny.
:06:44. > :06:47.People are looking quite cleanly at some of their childcare plans and
:06:48. > :06:54.how they have costed that and it looks like it has been referenced to
:06:55. > :06:59.a Fabian Society review. Whether that would be regarded as standing
:07:00. > :07:07.up to as much scrutiny as we would look to after a budget, and whether
:07:08. > :07:16.there are spreadsheets and office the budget responsibility numbers,
:07:17. > :07:21.we don't know. They plan to spend about 50 billion more in current
:07:22. > :07:27.spending in various ways, getting rid of tuition fees, the NHS and so
:07:28. > :07:33.on, and they plan to raise taxes by 50 billion almost to pay for it,
:07:34. > :07:37.that is the broad thrust. Yes, around 50 billion in extra taxes and
:07:38. > :07:41.then on top of that the idea for significant borrowing. They make the
:07:42. > :07:45.point that the borrowing would be for investment, long-term staff as
:07:46. > :07:52.opposed to day-to-day spending that a government does, but they make the
:07:53. > :07:57.argument that it is something very much worth doing. It is worth
:07:58. > :08:05.looking at how they divide what would be current spending paid for
:08:06. > :08:08.by tax rises versus what they say would be justified for borrowing.
:08:09. > :08:13.For instance, on the whole business of the NHS, and they were making
:08:14. > :08:16.this argument over the weekend, they say that ?10 billion worth of
:08:17. > :08:21.additional spending on the NHS which they say would be ring-fenced for
:08:22. > :08:25.infrastructure and IT, obviously topical in the context of the cyber
:08:26. > :08:28.attack, they say that would be justified in coming from borrowing
:08:29. > :08:33.because it would be long-term capital investment. That would go to
:08:34. > :08:37.the borrowing side as well? But they would also put additional capital
:08:38. > :08:42.spending on the borrowing side as well which by 2020 or 2021 would be
:08:43. > :08:46.50 billion. They are going to add 25 billion to that and then perhaps
:08:47. > :08:51.other parts will be added? They look like they will still, by the
:08:52. > :08:56.beginning of the next decade, be borrowing a lot, even if it is just
:08:57. > :09:01.for capital spending? So it would seem and they are pretty proud that
:09:02. > :09:05.it is worth doing. It emphasises that the massive ideological
:09:06. > :09:10.difference and outlook in terms of how Labour and the Conservatives
:09:11. > :09:14.prepared to run the country. I am not saying you have read every word,
:09:15. > :09:19.but is there quite a lot of detail beyond the broad figures in terms of
:09:20. > :09:25.costs, spending and taxes? Is there the detail that Labour were being
:09:26. > :09:29.asked for in terms of costing these spending pledges? There is this
:09:30. > :09:32.separate document they put out. I suspect, and we are still in the
:09:33. > :09:36.opening minutes of that being scrutinised, there will be some
:09:37. > :09:40.holes pulled into that. First, there is a distinct lack of information
:09:41. > :09:44.about the costings of the nationalisations. Even the stuff
:09:45. > :09:49.they offer are costing four, some of the references on the face of it
:09:50. > :09:53.look like they will be plenty of unpicking that will go on there. On
:09:54. > :09:58.the broader picture in terms of the promises, what is quite striking as
:09:59. > :10:03.there is a huge array of retail political offices the offers, in
:10:04. > :10:08.small detail. The idea of having free Wi-Fi on all trains under a
:10:09. > :10:13.nationalised rail network. Some of the polling suggests some of their
:10:14. > :10:16.headline offers are quite popular. I saw this analogy yesterday which is
:10:17. > :10:20.quite a good one, you can see things that are enticing on the restaurant
:10:21. > :10:24.menu but if you don't like the look of the menu, would you walk through
:10:25. > :10:30.the door? That is the big challenge for Labour. Some of these questions
:10:31. > :10:35.we hope to put to Andy McDonald from the Labour Party who will join us
:10:36. > :10:40.when the manifesto launch is over. Listening to that was Nick Clegg who
:10:41. > :10:48.joins us. What to make of what you have heard so far? I have just run
:10:49. > :10:51.from an underground station! Even from politicians stand is asking me
:10:52. > :10:59.to pronounce with precious little detail! The good thing about this is
:11:00. > :11:01.this is a manifesto squarely capped in a completely different
:11:02. > :11:05.ideological space. It is taking a massive gamble that you could
:11:06. > :11:11.squeeze that amount of money from many people who are the Tories leak
:11:12. > :11:15.mobile and can afford taxes. It sounds great to say you're going to
:11:16. > :11:19.squeeze the top 5%, it is incredibly difficult in practice and it can be
:11:20. > :11:23.huge inhibition to economic growth and so on. They are taking a huge
:11:24. > :11:29.gamble, they're not going to kill the economy as they squeeze out
:11:30. > :11:32.money from this fantastic list of wonderful sounding free everything
:11:33. > :11:37.for everybody, and at the same time remaining, which is the most
:11:38. > :11:40.striking omission, stunningly silent on the biggest economic risk to the
:11:41. > :11:44.British economy of all, which is we are going to extricate ourselves
:11:45. > :11:48.from the world was at most integrated borderless marketplace,
:11:49. > :11:52.and by the sounds that from the customs union as well. During this
:11:53. > :11:55.election campaign Labour have sided fully with the Conservative Party to
:11:56. > :12:01.pull us out of the single market. Every authorities economic analysis
:12:02. > :12:06.says it will have a fact on the British economy. I do think there is
:12:07. > :12:11.any dispute the free Wi-Fi, free disk of a free that, sounds great.
:12:12. > :12:15.As ever with the Labour Party, is it credible? From little of what I have
:12:16. > :12:19.heard a lot on what was leaked last week, I don't find it credible at
:12:20. > :12:23.all. A lot of it was leaked last week, I do think you missed too
:12:24. > :12:29.much. We got the figures. We will return
:12:30. > :12:33.to that. Chris Mason, thank you for joining us and Nick Clegg, good to
:12:34. > :12:37.see you. Yes, welcome. While we wait for Andy
:12:38. > :12:45.McDonald, let's look at events across the antics. -- Atlantic.
:12:46. > :12:47.The White House has denied allegations that President Trump
:12:48. > :12:49.shared highly classified intelligence about Islamic State
:12:50. > :12:51.during a meeting with the Russian Foreign Minister last week.
:12:52. > :12:53.President Trump held talks with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei
:12:54. > :12:55.Lavrov at the White House last Wednesday.
:12:56. > :12:57.But according to a report in the Washington Post today,
:12:58. > :13:00.the President apparently went off script during the meeting
:13:01. > :13:02.and began describing details of an Islamic State terrorist threat
:13:03. > :13:04.related to the use of laptop computers on aircraft.
:13:05. > :13:08.The story claims that the information had been
:13:09. > :13:09.provided by a US partner through
:13:10. > :13:12.Well, President Trump's National Security Advisor,
:13:13. > :13:18.HR McMaster, told reporters that the story was untrue.
:13:19. > :13:22.At no time, at no time, were intelligence sources or methods
:13:23. > :13:27.discussed and the president did not disclose any military operations
:13:28. > :13:30.that were not already publicly known.
:13:31. > :13:32.Two other senior officials who were present, including
:13:33. > :13:35.the Secretary of State, remember the meeting the same
:13:36. > :13:40.Their on-the-record accounts should outweigh those of anonymous sources.
:13:41. > :14:00.Nick Clegg, Washington is reeling from the firing of James Coney, what
:14:01. > :14:07.do you think they are doing now as a result of this report in the
:14:08. > :14:12.Washington Post? What I find striking is it would not have found
:14:13. > :14:18.its way into the Washington Post if someone very much close to the
:14:19. > :14:22.operational, either security establishment either the White House
:14:23. > :14:27.itself, was not so outraged that they chose to leak it. You have an
:14:28. > :14:34.administration by the sounds of it to all intents and purposes at war
:14:35. > :14:37.with itself. Whatever your views about Donald Trump and his ideology,
:14:38. > :14:43.to have an administration which appears so dysfunctional, very
:14:44. > :14:47.worrying. It is clear now there are parts of the Washington
:14:48. > :14:51.establishment who do not trust their own president with confidential
:14:52. > :14:58.security briefings, as someone who received them for years, day in, day
:14:59. > :15:01.out, it is astonishing. You were privy in your former life as Deputy
:15:02. > :15:06.Prime Minister to all sorts of intelligence and the implication is
:15:07. > :15:12.this intelligence came from a third-party, it could have Britain,
:15:13. > :15:18.of course. I have no idea who it came from. We would be up there with
:15:19. > :15:22.information... We have a very intimate intelligence relationship
:15:23. > :15:28.with the US and Australia, New Zealand and others. Of course, yes,
:15:29. > :15:31.you are right, it has a ripple effect on the intelligence community
:15:32. > :15:35.beyond America if you feel the commander-in-chief, and this is the
:15:36. > :15:39.way it comes across, it may be unfair, as if he is bragging about
:15:40. > :15:45.the information at his disposal to Sergei Lavrov. That is very worrying
:15:46. > :15:50.for Western intelligence generally. You say it is worrying for the
:15:51. > :15:55.Washington establishment if parts of people there do not trust the
:15:56. > :15:58.President, worrying for the wider intelligence community, what can
:15:59. > :16:03.Donald Trump do now to extricate himself from the growing clamour,
:16:04. > :16:08.the piling up of claims of his links with Russia? He has got to come
:16:09. > :16:14.clean. He has got to get beyond this. Has it gone too far? He wanted
:16:15. > :16:23.to end the controversy surrounding it. It was inevitable the moment he
:16:24. > :16:29.fired Comey, but one thing seasoned Washington observers thought, it
:16:30. > :16:33.would only then spiral in precisely the direction he was seeking to
:16:34. > :16:39.avoid. Everyone asks, what is the motive? To all intents and purposes,
:16:40. > :16:42.if you charge around saying, everything is fake news, you fire
:16:43. > :16:49.people, you have got something to hide. I have not got the faintest
:16:50. > :16:53.idea, I am not privy to this stuff, but he is giving every appearance of
:16:54. > :16:58.being a political leader who is acting out stress and in a very
:16:59. > :17:02.impetuous Wade and reacting very defensively and of course that is
:17:03. > :17:09.worrisome. If there is a Russian connection that is yet to come out,
:17:10. > :17:14.it is the most amazing game of double bluff. He has fired missiles
:17:15. > :17:18.into Syria, blamed the Russians for a lot of what is going on, and
:17:19. > :17:22.yesterday, the US wanted out the Syrians had built a crematorium
:17:23. > :17:29.where they are burning the bodies of the thousands of people they have
:17:30. > :17:34.tortured and killed. And then said, the Russians have been complicit in
:17:35. > :17:37.this. It is amazing. Yes, though what I find interesting is the
:17:38. > :17:44.pattern of condemnation of Russia did emerge somewhat belatedly.
:17:45. > :17:49.Again, you cannot help but feel, why have they come so late in the day to
:17:50. > :17:54.condemning Russia's belligerent behaviour in Syria and Ukraine?
:17:55. > :17:59.Again, I'm afraid, when these narratives get going, everything
:18:00. > :18:01.reinforces itself. They are somehow seeking to cover their tracks. That
:18:02. > :18:03.is how it looks. The question for today is,
:18:04. > :18:12.which of these election photo B) Tim Farron covered
:18:13. > :18:17.in orange powder? Or d) Nick Clegg
:18:18. > :18:20.high-fiving in Kent? At the end of the show,
:18:21. > :18:28.Nick will hopefully give us I think there is a Liberal Democrat
:18:29. > :18:33.theme! I hope it does because I do not know what it is! Someone in my
:18:34. > :18:35.ear will tell me. We've been joined from Bradford
:18:36. > :18:43.by the Shadow Transport Welcome to the programme. For the
:18:44. > :18:48.past month, we have been told you have to wait, when we ask, where is
:18:49. > :18:53.the money coming from? Wait for the manifesto, we were told. The
:18:54. > :18:57.manifesto is published today, lots of detailed costings in it, you want
:18:58. > :19:02.to nationalise the National Grid. Its market cap is about 40 billion
:19:03. > :19:09.at the moment. How would you pay for nationalising it? John McDonnell is
:19:10. > :19:13.going to roll all of the figures out over the next few days in great
:19:14. > :19:19.detail. I will not trespass into his territory. It does make some
:19:20. > :19:26.sense... Hold on. We have had to listen... Hold on. You told us all
:19:27. > :19:30.would be revealed when the manifesto was published. You are now saying we
:19:31. > :19:35.have to wait again? Does the manifesto not tell us how you will
:19:36. > :19:42.pay for the nationalising of the National Grid? Well, it sets up very
:19:43. > :19:48.clearly that there needs to be a rebalance of where the emphasis lies
:19:49. > :19:53.in terms of raising taxes. This is about a fundamental change so we can
:19:54. > :19:55.uplift everybody and not just concentrate on those who are
:19:56. > :20:01.fortunate enough to be extremely rich. We want to uplift everybody.
:20:02. > :20:09.That is the thrust of our excellent manifesto. It is 128 pages, so I am
:20:10. > :20:15.not across at all, but I have looked at the funding pages, you want to
:20:16. > :20:21.raise almost 50 billion to spend on various things. Nationalising the
:20:22. > :20:27.National Grid is not included in that 50 billion yuan trading. Where
:20:28. > :20:33.will the money come from for that? -- the 50 billion yuan raising. It
:20:34. > :20:37.is part of the taxation and spend programme and the money will come
:20:38. > :20:41.for that in the fullness of time. If you have the wording in front of you
:20:42. > :20:44.and I have not, I think you will find it says it is something we want
:20:45. > :20:52.to achieve over time. That is not going to be... That is the ambition
:20:53. > :20:57.of the manifesto commitment. What about the water companies which you
:20:58. > :21:00.also want to nationalise? Thames water, one of the biggest, that
:21:01. > :21:10.alone is worth about ?12 billion. How would you finance that? Well,
:21:11. > :21:14.again, Andrew, we have set out how we look to the very richest in our
:21:15. > :21:24.society to make a better contribution. But that is not
:21:25. > :21:28.nationalisation... Well, those are the funds we will be drawing on to
:21:29. > :21:34.fund the entire programme and it is about making sure that those
:21:35. > :21:39.corporate entities who are enjoying and will continue to enjoy the
:21:40. > :21:43.lowest corporation tax in the G7 will flourish and continue to
:21:44. > :21:49.flourish but that they make the proper contribution. We have also
:21:50. > :21:52.got a ?36 billion tax gap to fill which quite frankly has been given
:21:53. > :21:57.little regard by the Tory government. They have been content
:21:58. > :22:02.for people to offshore their earnings, because they are part of
:22:03. > :22:07.the same elite vested interests that we are so determined to tackle head
:22:08. > :22:12.on. That is where funding comes from to achieve this very ambitious
:22:13. > :22:16.programme. You hope to raise about ?6 billion more from raising taxes
:22:17. > :22:23.of the top 5%, but you have already told us that money will go to
:22:24. > :22:27.finance more money for the NHS. Not for the water company purchased or
:22:28. > :22:33.the National Grid or the Royal Mail. Where does the money come from for
:22:34. > :22:38.that? You are quite right. What we are saying is, we will protect 95%
:22:39. > :22:43.of the working population, they will not see tax rises and National
:22:44. > :22:48.Insurance contribution rises. We ask the very richest make a small
:22:49. > :22:52.contribution, we are asking corporations who benefit so much
:22:53. > :22:58.from trading in our country to again make the small contribution and
:22:59. > :23:02.still be the lowest rate in the G7. Both the money you hope to raise
:23:03. > :23:08.from increasing corporation tax and the money you hope to raise from
:23:09. > :23:13.raising taxes on the top 5%, that is already spent in your manifesto on
:23:14. > :23:19.things like the NHS, abolishing tuition fees, on social care, and so
:23:20. > :23:26.on. It is not being spent on what I am asking you about which is the
:23:27. > :23:30.cost of nationalisation. Andrew, it is hot off the press, published at
:23:31. > :23:34.11 o'clock, John McDonnell... You are in the Shadow Cabinet. John
:23:35. > :23:38.McDonnell will go into further detail. I will not trespass into his
:23:39. > :23:48.territory when he will give you the clarity you will have in abundance.
:23:49. > :23:56.I have been at the meeting when we looked at the draft we agreed on and
:23:57. > :24:00.this is the published format that I looked at this morning. If you have
:24:01. > :24:07.read it which I have not yet have the privilege of doing, not all of
:24:08. > :24:10.it, but if you have read it, what does the manifesto say about
:24:11. > :24:17.financing the nationalisation of the National Grid, the water companies
:24:18. > :24:22.and the Royal Mail? As I have said, Andrew, we have set out that
:24:23. > :24:26.programme, we told you very clearly where money is coming from. Where is
:24:27. > :24:34.it coming from? Tell me again. Assume I am a slow learner. Andrew,
:24:35. > :24:38.I have said to you, let John McDonnell role that out in very
:24:39. > :24:44.great detail. Is it in the manifesto? It is hot off the
:24:45. > :24:48.presses. My understanding it is there... You have read it. We are
:24:49. > :24:55.trying to keep this under wraps until quarter to 11! It is quite a
:24:56. > :25:00.weighty tome. Give me a chance, I will have a good look at it. You are
:25:01. > :25:06.going to increase the bank levy, increase corporation tax by a third,
:25:07. > :25:11.increase capital gains tax, introduced a financial transactions
:25:12. > :25:16.tax, put a cap on top pay, have higher taxes for those earning over
:25:17. > :25:20.80,000 a year, you will have a levy on companies paying high salaries.
:25:21. > :25:27.What allowances have you made by doing all of that that the behaviour
:25:28. > :25:33.in companies and people will change and you will not get the money you
:25:34. > :25:39.think? Well, I think those are modest and reasonable proposals and
:25:40. > :25:46.it makes all the sense in the world to me that when people are trading
:25:47. > :25:48.with shares, the .5%, if they then get into trading on derivatives,
:25:49. > :25:55.there should be some transaction from that when they are gambling on
:25:56. > :26:02.the increase or decrease in those shares -- not .5%. It is financially
:26:03. > :26:10.profitable. Contributions should be made. It is a tiny... What if they
:26:11. > :26:17.go abroad? Individuals or corporations? Both. People who...
:26:18. > :26:22.Some people may go off to buy an island in the Caribbean but some
:26:23. > :26:28.have already done that. They might just go to Switzerland. I am
:26:29. > :26:31.absolutely convinced there is the patriotic commitment to our country
:26:32. > :26:37.and these are modest contributions that we are asking for. You have to
:26:38. > :26:44.remember, the corporation tax was at 28%. We are talking now of getting
:26:45. > :26:49.it down to 17%. Lord alone knows what will happen if ultimately a
:26:50. > :26:54.Conservative government that is re-elected takes us down to 12%.
:26:55. > :26:58.What will happen then to the NHS and schools and social care? These are
:26:59. > :27:02.the things that are crucially important to everyday people, these
:27:03. > :27:05.are the priorities and you have to have a tax base, a reasonably
:27:06. > :27:12.structured tax base to make sure those provisions are made. You also
:27:13. > :27:16.have a lot of money you want to borrow to spend on what is generally
:27:17. > :27:20.called infrastructure investment. But you will not be allowed to bid
:27:21. > :27:25.for the infrastructure investment if the senior management is paid 20
:27:26. > :27:32.times more than the lowest worker. Lowest paid worker. Are you aware of
:27:33. > :27:43.any infrastructure companies, British or foreign, where the ratio
:27:44. > :27:47.is 20 to one or below? Any? I cannot give you a direct response to that.
:27:48. > :27:52.But what I can tell you is that it is eminently reasonable that there
:27:53. > :27:56.be some relationship between those people who are working hard every
:27:57. > :28:00.day, creating that wealth, and the individuals at the top of the
:28:01. > :28:04.organisation. Pay scales have got out of hand and they are
:28:05. > :28:11.ridiculously at comparative rates between all agree -- between
:28:12. > :28:14.ordinary people and the wealth of the company. They should be a
:28:15. > :28:22.relationship between the two. I do not anticipate it will impinge...
:28:23. > :28:29.Really? People will want to invest in our country, they need to abide
:28:30. > :28:35.by our systems and make proper contributions. What happens if the
:28:36. > :28:40.companies say, we will not do that? We will not bid for the British
:28:41. > :28:44.infrastructure contracts. The world is full of infrastructure contracts,
:28:45. > :28:51.we will not cut the salaries of senior management to suit a Labour
:28:52. > :28:56.government. What do you do then? How do you build the railways and the
:28:57. > :29:00.roads? How do you do it? The problem we have had in this country for many
:29:01. > :29:04.years is people coming to invest have found the infrastructure
:29:05. > :29:11.woefully inadequate and we have laid out our commitment to invest in
:29:12. > :29:15.infrastructure to make sure we have got transport infrastructure for the
:29:16. > :29:17.21st-century. The condition you are making could lead to an
:29:18. > :29:25.infrastructure strike, companies just will not bid. I am not
:29:26. > :29:29.convinced that is the case at all. I think these companies will want to
:29:30. > :29:33.invest in our country. They know they have got a government who wants
:29:34. > :29:37.to work with them but there has to be some sense prevailing in terms of
:29:38. > :29:41.the excesses drawn out of the system and I certainly do not think a
:29:42. > :29:47.government in the UK should be party to simply pouring money into the
:29:48. > :29:51.coffers of a tiny minority. These investment strategies have to be for
:29:52. > :29:56.the benefit of the entire country, not for a handful of individuals.
:29:57. > :30:02.That is obscene. We have to make sure the entire nation benefits, not
:30:03. > :30:05.just a few. Lots more to talk about. We will do that more before the 8th
:30:06. > :30:09.of June. Thank you for joining us. Let's get a round-up of all
:30:10. > :30:25.the other election campaign news. Thanks, Jo. It has been an action
:30:26. > :30:29.packed 24 hours of campaigning. If I had one piece of advice for
:30:30. > :30:34.politicians today, it would be do your advice on figures, especially
:30:35. > :30:39.before going on the radio. When will they learn? That is a clue about
:30:40. > :30:41.what is coming up and we have also had some very friends making an
:30:42. > :30:47.appearance on the campaign Trail and I do not just mean the candidates.
:30:48. > :30:50.Sit back and enjoy today's campaign round-up.
:30:51. > :30:52.That awkward moment when an unwanted guest gate-crashes your party.
:30:53. > :30:55.During Theresa May's ITV's Facebook live, look who pops up...
:30:56. > :30:57.I have a question in from Jeremy Corbyn of Islington.
:30:58. > :31:03.House-building is at its lowest, do you not think the British
:31:04. > :31:11.I and he take questions directly from voters.
:31:12. > :31:14.And if the government can do sweetheart deals for Surrey, well,
:31:15. > :31:19.Meanwhile, Jeremy Corbyn was reminding Labour voters
:31:20. > :31:24.in West Yorkshire of that alleged Tory deal for Surrey County Council.
:31:25. > :31:26.Although I do realise for Tory ministers,
:31:27. > :31:35.Diane Abbott isn't the only one struggling with her sums.
:31:36. > :31:37.What is Britain's deficit at the moment?
:31:38. > :31:42.Labour's John McDonnell was accused of googling the deficit figure
:31:43. > :31:46.Did somebody pass you a piece of paper?
:31:47. > :31:51.It sounded like a bit of paper was being handed.
:31:52. > :31:59.The Shadow Chancellor appeared to get it wrong by 18 billion,
:32:00. > :32:02.quoting the figure given on Wikipedia, rather than
:32:03. > :32:11.Tim Farron addressed a business breakfast in Bath.
:32:12. > :32:14.Lib Dems want to create a start-up allowance to help
:32:15. > :32:19.I want to do an uncharacteristic thing and shut up and listen,
:32:20. > :32:26.And who needs a battle bus for getting about?
:32:27. > :32:29.Nicholas Soames isn't the only one with a four-legged friend.
:32:30. > :32:48.So there you go, what will our colourful cast get up to next? I can
:32:49. > :32:53.assure you, Andrew, whatever it is, we will be watching and we will
:32:54. > :33:02.bring you the best bits. More tomorrow. I have no doubt about
:33:03. > :33:06.that. Throughout the campaign we have been taking the mood box
:33:07. > :33:11.around. Today, Ellie is in Edinburgh. At least, I hope she is!
:33:12. > :33:23.She is being very quiet. Lines to Edinburgh are down so let's
:33:24. > :33:28.go straight into it cutting Ellie out.
:33:29. > :33:31.# I need a little time to think it over...
:33:32. > :33:38.They all make promises they don't keep eventually.
:33:39. > :33:41.Do you trust the political parties to stick to their manifestos?
:33:42. > :33:44.Well, if it's a straight yes or no, I think the answer
:33:45. > :33:51.It's partly an individual loss of integrity for people and partly
:33:52. > :33:57.the whole system is set up that people have to compromise and lie
:33:58. > :34:03.in order to get votes and they don't carry it through.
:34:04. > :34:05.I think I would only trust the SNP, honestly.
:34:06. > :34:12.I think Sturgeon comes through as truthful.
:34:13. > :34:15.Manifestos, they don't ever really seem to come to fruition in the way
:34:16. > :34:18.I feel a bit strange answering this question!
:34:19. > :34:27.They have proven they don't stick to the manifesto.
:34:28. > :34:32.Lib Dems I think would but they are not going to get in.
:34:33. > :34:46.# Promises, promises turn to dust # Trust into mistrust...
:34:47. > :34:48.Do you think you can trust the political parties to keep
:34:49. > :34:55.Looks like a trolley load of empty promises.
:34:56. > :34:58.Well, yes, I suppose it would be, really.
:34:59. > :35:01.No, I think even the sincerest parties that might actually
:35:02. > :35:04.want to stick to the policies find that once they get
:35:05. > :35:11.I think if people can actually stick with the idea of the promises
:35:12. > :35:15.and maybe some of the detail might have to change, that is fair enough.
:35:16. > :35:17.That is being practical about things because things change.
:35:18. > :35:22.Usually, when they say things like, I am going to fix the problems
:35:23. > :35:28.in the health service or money or something like this, usually,
:35:29. > :35:32.well, it doesn't always get worse, but it doesn't usually get better.
:35:33. > :35:35.Any lasting relationship needs trust and when the political parties come
:35:36. > :35:39.wooing voters in this marginal seat, they will have their work cut out
:35:40. > :35:42.because no, the majority don't think that the parties stick
:35:43. > :36:07.That was one that Ellie recorded earlier! We could not get to her
:36:08. > :36:12.life in Edinburgh. I do not want to get into tuition fees but are people
:36:13. > :36:21.now less trusting in politicians do you think? I don't know. I think
:36:22. > :36:27.they have always been distrusting? Look, it is eyed dilemma I have
:36:28. > :36:30.grappled with myself. I do not have a perfect answer. There is always a
:36:31. > :36:35.collision between what you ideally want to do in life and what reality
:36:36. > :36:40.allows you to do, not just in politics but in life generally. The
:36:41. > :36:44.idea that every time a politician needs to make a compromise with
:36:45. > :36:48.reality, that they are shouted down as somehow being morally callow and
:36:49. > :36:55.betrayed, that is a problem. With each turn of the wheel, even where
:36:56. > :37:03.innocent collisions happen, cynicism just increases. What is out of order
:37:04. > :37:10.is if people knowingly say something which they have deliberately planned
:37:11. > :37:15.to not do. I find myself in the invidious position, I am not in
:37:16. > :37:20.charge and so on and so forth, but I wonder if politicians need to do
:37:21. > :37:26.more to be upfront with people to say that manifestos are not tablets
:37:27. > :37:31.of stone. My changes, banking crisis happens, wars happen. Maybe at this
:37:32. > :37:36.breathless phase of the election campaign be more grown-up but talk
:37:37. > :37:40.about what we can and cannot do. You have said the Leave side of the
:37:41. > :37:44.referendum campaign never made it clear that we have to leave the
:37:45. > :37:47.membership of the single market, you said that and when we were on the
:37:48. > :37:52.Sunday Politics we ran a bit of tape. I want to run it again to seek
:37:53. > :37:56.your actions are still the same. We looked at what people had said on
:37:57. > :38:01.the Leave and Remain side about the single market. Let's just refresh
:38:02. > :38:05.our memories. The British public would be voting to leave the EU and
:38:06. > :38:10.to leave the single market. Should we come out of the single market?
:38:11. > :38:15.That almost certainly would be the case, yes. Do you want to stay
:38:16. > :38:18.inside the single market? No, we should be outside the single market.
:38:19. > :38:22.I had Michael Gove in the chair and I said after Brexit would we be in
:38:23. > :38:28.the single market yes or no and he said no. And he was right.
:38:29. > :38:32.Absolutely. We would be outside of the single market, that is the
:38:33. > :38:37.reality. Britain would be quitting the single market. When I showed
:38:38. > :38:44.that two last time you said it was just sound bites. I tell you why I
:38:45. > :38:51.still disagree with you... People will think actually we did make it
:38:52. > :38:55.fit it clear. No one watching that received a manifesto from the Brexit
:38:56. > :39:02.campaign saying this is the kind of Brexit we propose to. We did not
:39:03. > :39:04.have one with Kate Hoey, Michael Farage, Boris Johnson, Michael Gove
:39:05. > :39:09.on cross-party basis saying we want to leave and this is why. That is
:39:10. > :39:12.why you were quite rightly asking them in interviews in television
:39:13. > :39:16.studios. Writer that the blood Owen Paterson said it would be mad to
:39:17. > :39:20.leave the single market, Nigel Farage and Dan Hannan had advocated
:39:21. > :39:25.the Norwegian approach which retains our membership of the single market.
:39:26. > :39:31.In other words, it was debatable. It was never put to the British people
:39:32. > :39:36.in clear way. I am afraid, I still cannot accept that a number of
:39:37. > :39:40.individual statements under pressure in question and answer session in a
:39:41. > :39:45.television studio constitutes an open proposition to the British
:39:46. > :39:48.people about what Brexit means in practice. But you did not seem to be
:39:49. > :39:56.in much doubt either that we would be leaving the single market if we
:39:57. > :39:58.voted to leave. This is what you said in a debate. To be further
:39:59. > :40:03.Brexit campaign have come clean now and said we dislike it so much we
:40:04. > :40:09.actually want to tear up Margaret Thatcher's single European act. I
:40:10. > :40:15.think that is a devastatingly self harming thing to do economically. I
:40:16. > :40:19.would not want it on my conscience. Even you were clear. You said they
:40:20. > :40:25.made it clear they wanted to tear up the single market arrangement. The
:40:26. > :40:30.problem is you were taking a number of statements and I think
:40:31. > :40:32.translating or describing that as an open proposition to the British
:40:33. > :40:37.people in the most important referendum in our lifetime, what I
:40:38. > :40:40.was reacting to is under pressure in interviews, some Brexiteers, not all
:40:41. > :40:45.of them, were saying that they felt this meant we would leave the single
:40:46. > :40:50.market. The British people never had a clear proposition put to them as
:40:51. > :40:55.one on a cross-party basis, by the Brexit campaign and invoking what
:40:56. > :41:00.George Osborne and David Cameron said is the oddest thing of all. You
:41:01. > :41:06.are having the winning side of a referendum quoting the words of the
:41:07. > :41:10.losing side of the referendum. If the British people watch, and David
:41:11. > :41:14.Cameron says we would have to leave the single market, George Osborne
:41:15. > :41:19.says we would have to leave, Michael Gove said we had to leave, Andrew
:41:20. > :41:25.Ledson said we would have to leave, Boris Johnson said, Nick Clegg said
:41:26. > :41:31.we would have to leave, what is your argument? Guess what, people don't
:41:32. > :41:35.watch. They don't watch the interviews between you and me and
:41:36. > :41:39.Andrew Marr on Sunday. They don't read manifestos either. We have
:41:40. > :41:43.today an important moment. The principal party of opposition are
:41:44. > :41:48.publishing a manifesto and you quite rightly are scrutinising the
:41:49. > :41:51.manifesto, because you accept it is a convention in aid can see that the
:41:52. > :41:54.two sides, multiple sides in a debate, that forward a coherent plan
:41:55. > :41:58.for what they want to do. That did not happen in the run-up to the
:41:59. > :42:04.referendum. The one thing we knew that people did take notice of which
:42:05. > :42:08.was not snatched conversations in TV studios, was a big lie on the side
:42:09. > :42:13.of a bus. And we went through them with that. My point is that even you
:42:14. > :42:19.were clear that if we voted to leave we left men should of the single
:42:20. > :42:28.market. Let's not Miss translating is, some Brexiteers had admitted
:42:29. > :42:33.that. There was no manifesto from the Brexit campaign. I still don't
:42:34. > :42:36.know, it is quite remarkable, almost a year since the referendum, I still
:42:37. > :42:41.don't know because I cannot get a clear answer from the government or
:42:42. > :42:47.Brexiteers, what they want to do in the customs union, what they mean by
:42:48. > :42:51.a agreement which apparently now will deliver us miraculously the
:42:52. > :42:55.exact same benefits in the words of David Davis as being inside the
:42:56. > :43:00.single market. I think all of this is specious nonsense. If I get
:43:01. > :43:04.worked up about it, I tell you why, I don't think they ever came clean
:43:05. > :43:10.with the British public. Used just said they had come clean but never
:43:11. > :43:17.mind. In a form in which the of people who voted you could describe
:43:18. > :43:21.as being fairly informed by a cross-party campaign group. But you
:43:22. > :43:29.are losing the argued. The latest YouGov poll says 68% support Brexit.
:43:30. > :43:34.Even people who voted to Remain but now think you should get on with it.
:43:35. > :43:38.You are in a minority now. I predict that even people who voted Remain,
:43:39. > :43:43.it is a pragmatic British added to, or they say come on, move along. I
:43:44. > :43:47.totally understand that. By the way, those are exactly the same people
:43:48. > :43:50.who may well in the next year change their minds when they feel the
:43:51. > :43:57.reality of Brexit is not all it is cracked up to be. But of course, I
:43:58. > :44:01.would fully expect that many Remain voters, who do not feel strongly
:44:02. > :44:07.about it as others, say come on, we should move on. I will play another
:44:08. > :44:08.clip. It does not involve you! I think he's your Treasury spokesman
:44:09. > :44:22.Vince Cable. How many people would give pay rise
:44:23. > :44:27.to? Roux across the public sector... How many is that? Millions. The core
:44:28. > :44:35.public sector, teachers, nurses, public sector workers. About 1
:44:36. > :44:46.million people? 5 million people? A couple. 2 million? Roughly. How much
:44:47. > :44:51.would it cost? 1.4 billion in the first year, subsequently will depend
:44:52. > :44:54.on the rate of inflation. The total number of public sector workers as
:44:55. > :45:05.of December last year was 5.4 million people. Right. Trained
:45:06. > :45:11.economist, graduated from Cambridge, PhD from the University of Glasgow,
:45:12. > :45:18.Diane Abbott moment? I could easily have a Diane Abbott moment. We all
:45:19. > :45:28.could! He should just have said, I have not got the figures. Funnily
:45:29. > :45:34.enough, I was doing it quickly myself, I think it is actually 5.4
:45:35. > :45:39.in the whole of the UK... 4.5 in England which is what the policy
:45:40. > :45:48.applies to. It is 5.5 if you include devolved administrations. Vince is a
:45:49. > :45:51.great guy, even people with an encyclopaedic brain like Vince, they
:45:52. > :45:53.do not have all the statistics... We are all vulnerable. By the grace of
:45:54. > :46:01.God go I. It's not just Labour who are
:46:02. > :46:03.publishing their manifesto today. Plaid Cymru have also been busy
:46:04. > :46:05.setting out their pitch to the public, with a promise
:46:06. > :46:08.to provide a strong voice Here's the party
:46:09. > :46:10.leader, Leanne Wood. The choice is not between
:46:11. > :46:13.the Conservatives and Labour. The choice is whether we want to put
:46:14. > :46:18.Wales on the political landscape. The choice is whether we keep voting
:46:19. > :46:20.for London-based parties for our own party, for a party
:46:21. > :46:28.which is based in Wales and whose only loyalty is to the people
:46:29. > :46:34.who live here. The party's finance
:46:35. > :46:48.spokesman, Adam Price, Welcome back to the Daily Politics.
:46:49. > :46:54.Your party opposed back set-macro and 52% of Wales voted to leave. --
:46:55. > :47:00.your party opposed Brexit. Is it a case of a little too little and a
:47:01. > :47:07.little too late? The arguments of the past should be left there. We
:47:08. > :47:11.have to look to the future. We are coming out of the EU and we have to
:47:12. > :47:15.ensure it is the best Brexit possible for the Welsh economy.
:47:16. > :47:20.There specific risks because of the structure of our economy,
:47:21. > :47:23.manufacturing and farming are much bigger, but there are also
:47:24. > :47:28.opportunities which are not often talked about. Coming out of the EU,
:47:29. > :47:32.we now have the ability to set regional or subnational rates for
:47:33. > :47:37.different taxes like the 80. We could have a lower VAT rate to help
:47:38. > :47:46.our tourism sector -- different taxes like VAT. Also we could have
:47:47. > :47:49.variable corporation tax rates reflecting lower levels of economic
:47:50. > :47:54.prosperity in places like Wales. It would give us a competitive
:47:55. > :47:58.advantage to draw businesses to Wales and help those here to grow.
:47:59. > :48:04.You want the Government to match every penny of EU funding Wales
:48:05. > :48:08.received, what happens if they do not? It goes back to the earlier
:48:09. > :48:16.conversation. I am old-fashioned when it comes to promises made by
:48:17. > :48:20.politicians. You think they should keep them? It started with the Iraq
:48:21. > :48:26.war, the lies that happened then, it left a shadow and it remains
:48:27. > :48:31.reflected there in the low levels of trust we have in our democratic
:48:32. > :48:35.system. Let us institute a new rule, if you make a promise, you keep to
:48:36. > :48:40.it. We remember the bus, totting up the figure, proportionally, it
:48:41. > :48:45.should mean 17 million a week for Wales. We were promised we would not
:48:46. > :48:50.lose a penny of EU money we get for farmers and regional development.
:48:51. > :48:54.The two together, it is 30 million a week, by my calculation, District
:48:55. > :49:01.General Hospital built in Wales with the money we were promised every
:49:02. > :49:04.month. Why are more people not listening to that message? If you
:49:05. > :49:08.are putting forward a comprehensive argument for Wales, why are you not
:49:09. > :49:14.gaining more votes from Labour for example? In the by-election last
:49:15. > :49:19.year, you came third behind Ukip. The message is falling on the dears.
:49:20. > :49:26.The local elections, the biggest opinion poll we could have, we
:49:27. > :49:34.almost had our best ever result -- falling on deaf ears. It is clear,
:49:35. > :49:38.the conversations I am having, people are listening, particularly
:49:39. > :49:42.disaffected Labour voters, but also people from other parties, they are
:49:43. > :49:46.looking for new leadership, a new voice. Wales is not on the political
:49:47. > :49:53.radar at the moment, a tiny blip in terms of the priorities for those
:49:54. > :49:58.people in Westminster... Isn't that down to you? We have got to reverse
:49:59. > :50:06.that. People sit up and listen in the corridors of power when Scotland
:50:07. > :50:09.is met -- when Scotland is mentioned because people vote SNP. Gibraltar
:50:10. > :50:14.is more talked about than Wales at the moment. The only way we can turn
:50:15. > :50:21.it around is if we vote collectively as a nation for the party of Wales.
:50:22. > :50:27.How strong a part does Welsh independence play in your manifesto?
:50:28. > :50:36.It is a long-term dream for a nation, it is in the foreword... It
:50:37. > :50:42.is a minor part? Let us be realistic. We are 30% poorer than
:50:43. > :50:45.the rest of the UK and it has been a story of decline under Labour and
:50:46. > :50:49.Conservative governments. You cannot go from that position being
:50:50. > :50:55.self-reliant economically by the flick of a switch. We are being tee
:50:56. > :51:03.asking for the new tools that we can have as a result of Brexit. -- we
:51:04. > :51:07.are asking for the neutrals. Give us the tools. We are not asking for
:51:08. > :51:10.charity, we are asking for help to help ourselves. Thank you very much,
:51:11. > :51:15.and price. -- Adam Price. Let's take a look now
:51:16. > :51:18.at the platform of another party standing in the general election -
:51:19. > :51:20.the Liberal Party. Not to be confused with
:51:21. > :51:22.the Liberal Democrats! The Liberal Party traces its roots
:51:23. > :51:25.back to 1859, but it was founded in its current form in 1989 by those
:51:26. > :51:28.opposed to the creation It has around 2,500 Twitter
:51:29. > :51:35.followers and campaigns for every citizen to possess liberty,
:51:36. > :51:40.property and security. The party seeks withdrawal
:51:41. > :51:42.from the European Union and campaigned for a leave vote
:51:43. > :51:47.in last year's referendum. It supports spending 0.7%
:51:48. > :51:49.of national income on overseas aid and would negotiate the cancellation
:51:50. > :51:55.of Third World debt. It also calls for the wider use
:51:56. > :51:58.of Esperanto as a language for all governments and people
:51:59. > :52:11.who wish to use it. Let us now go and speak to the man
:52:12. > :52:17.who represents the Liberal Party. Thank you for joining us. When we
:52:18. > :52:25.think of the Liberal Party, we think of the 19th century, Gladstone, what
:52:26. > :52:32.are the historic and intellectual antecedents for your party? It is a
:52:33. > :52:35.lot of the Gladstone principles of free trade, simplify taxation,
:52:36. > :52:41.encouraging business, they are as true and valid and useful for the UK
:52:42. > :52:46.looking ahead today as it was so many years ago. You call yourselves
:52:47. > :52:55.the real liberals and not the Lib Dems. Why are the Liberal Democrats,
:52:56. > :52:59.you can draw a line back from them to Gladstone as well, why are they
:53:00. > :53:05.not withdraw Democrats? There are a mixed bag. There are some colleagues
:53:06. > :53:08.who I would feel comfortable you liberals and others are openly
:53:09. > :53:12.campaigning on the basis they want a new centre party which is not
:53:13. > :53:16.particularly liberal and would have Tony Blair as its leader and they
:53:17. > :53:23.want centre politics and pro-European centralisation. To be
:53:24. > :53:27.blunt about it, the main difference between the Liberal Party and the
:53:28. > :53:31.Liberal Democrats is the Liberal Party is looking to Britain being a
:53:32. > :53:34.global player, a sovereign country looking out to the world, rather
:53:35. > :53:43.than the Liberal Democrats hankering back to sabotage Brexit and they
:53:44. > :53:49.want to sign up to the euro. There is a clear water shed. We have got
:53:50. > :53:55.Nick Clegg, former leader of the Lib Dems here, what do you say to that?
:53:56. > :54:00.I think Steve should join the Conservatives. I am not saying that
:54:01. > :54:05.facetiously, everything he said is mainstream conservative thinking,
:54:06. > :54:07.out of the EU, low tax, pro-enterprise, anti-state,
:54:08. > :54:13.perfectly venerable tradition in but it's politics, it is not one I fully
:54:14. > :54:18.share, but it represents the Conservative Party. -- in British
:54:19. > :54:26.politics. He should give way to his inner conservative. What is the
:54:27. > :54:30.answer? On social policy, the Liberal Party is in favour of
:54:31. > :54:33.redistribution of wealth. There are some things where we will agree and
:54:34. > :54:42.some things we will disagree on. I think the good things the Lib Dems
:54:43. > :54:46.did in the last coalition was sympathising taxation and raising
:54:47. > :54:51.the tax threshold. I would like more help for the low-paid and unlike the
:54:52. > :54:57.Lib Dems, we have a policy on taxing inheritances which are a source of
:54:58. > :55:00.great inequality in British society and using that to pay for choosing
:55:01. > :55:05.fees that he said he would abolish. There are differences where I agree
:55:06. > :55:08.with the Lib Dems and differences and similarities were I agree with
:55:09. > :55:13.the Conservatives but it does not stop me being a liberal and does not
:55:14. > :55:17.join I will join Tony Blair 's party. How would you tax
:55:18. > :55:25.inheritance? Get rid of the exemptions. Most people pay no tax
:55:26. > :55:30.at all. We could apply a modest rate of inheritance tax and we could fund
:55:31. > :55:35.start-up business grants and we could fund tuition fees and we could
:55:36. > :55:40.use... You could not fund tuition fees over changes to inheritance
:55:41. > :55:45.tax, it does not bring in that much. You look at the substantial amount
:55:46. > :55:50.of people who do not pay any inheritance at all, it would make a
:55:51. > :55:54.great step towards funding Trish and fees or at least modifying them --
:55:55. > :55:58.funding tuition fees. Thank you. Now, one of our favourite campaign
:55:59. > :56:01.pastimes is watching our politicians Chuka Ummuna was down with the dab
:56:02. > :56:17.at a school in Streatham Tom Watson recently performed this
:56:18. > :56:22.wants move in the Commons. And Jeremy Corbyn had a laid back
:56:23. > :56:26.chill out with rapper JME. What do you mean, you have never
:56:27. > :56:30.heard of him? But as ever, the French had
:56:31. > :56:33.to get one up on us. Have a look at France's new
:56:34. > :56:49.president I am just handing nick the prop. Do
:56:50. > :56:58.you know what these are? My aid-year-old loves this. -- my HQ
:56:59. > :57:08.roles. I am going to give you this one. -- my eight-year-old loves
:57:09. > :57:17.this. Have you started using it? Well, I mean, it is quite addictive.
:57:18. > :57:22.It is. What are they called? Fidget spinners. They are being sold like
:57:23. > :57:27.hot cakes and the man who invented it is not getting a penny. He did
:57:28. > :57:35.not secure the Copyright! Can you do tricks? You have got to try. Balance
:57:36. > :57:40.it on the finger like this and pop it on to the next one. I can't do it
:57:41. > :57:48.either. I would do it but mine doesn't work! Is it ever worth a
:57:49. > :57:52.politician trying to be cool? Yes because otherwise it wouldn't give
:57:53. > :58:01.you hours of amusement watching us fail! Live entertainment! We are
:58:02. > :58:06.very grateful. Do you think Emmanuel Macron is succeeding? The person who
:58:07. > :58:17.was the coolest of the cool is Justin Trudeau. And Obama. Justin
:58:18. > :58:22.Trudeau is... Just time before we go to find out the answer to the quiz.
:58:23. > :58:24.The question was, which of these election-related photos
:58:25. > :58:39.It is me. We never released the video which that was fought for very
:58:40. > :58:43.good reasons. We wanted to know what the reason was? It was so
:58:44. > :58:45.embarrassing. That is a good reason! Thanks to Nick Clegg
:58:46. > :58:49.and all our guests. Andrew and I will be back
:58:50. > :58:51.here at noon tomorrow with all the big political
:58:52. > :58:53.stories of the day. When it came to my TV habits,
:58:54. > :59:16.I'd watch anything.