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:00:00. > :00:00.Have a full bulletin at the top of the hour. Now, it is dateline

:00:00. > :00:30.London. Hello and welcome to Dateline

:00:31. > :00:36.London. The Winter Olympics opened in Sochi. What does this great show

:00:37. > :00:39.tell us about Russia now? Negotiating with the Taliban and

:00:40. > :00:49.freak weather in Britain, Australia and United States and elsewhere,

:00:50. > :00:52.what does that tell us about climate change? My guests today are Dmitri

:00:53. > :00:55.Shishkin of BBC Global News, Stephanie Baker of Bloomberg

:00:56. > :00:58.Markets, Ashis Ray of Ray Media and Janet Daley of the Sunday Telegraph.

:00:59. > :01:01.The Olympic Games in Beijing told us a lot about how modern China sees

:01:02. > :01:09.itself on the same could be said about the Olympics in Sochi. It has

:01:10. > :01:13.been dogged by rows about what many see as an increasingly authoritarian

:01:14. > :01:20.Russian state. People all over Russia looking upon the opening with

:01:21. > :01:23.pride or what? Huge pride. It was interesting that irrespective of

:01:24. > :01:27.which political spectrum you belong to in Russia, if you looked at the

:01:28. > :01:31.Twitter feed and Facebook feeds yesterday, they were all very

:01:32. > :01:35.complimentary about the kind of show that has been put on. Before that,

:01:36. > :01:40.to be honest, it was very radicalised in terms of your

:01:41. > :01:42.attitude to Sochi. If you were against Vladimir Putin, then you

:01:43. > :01:50.would see it as his pet project, mired in corruption. You would be

:01:51. > :01:54.talking about gay rights, Pussy Riot, political prisoners and that

:01:55. > :02:00.side of the spectrum. Domestically it would have been very different.

:02:01. > :02:04.The Games were shown almost as the pinnacle, although that is likely to

:02:05. > :02:10.be the 2018 World Cup, which will be staged in Russia in four years time.

:02:11. > :02:17.Still very much the world coming to Russia. The world seeing what modern

:02:18. > :02:23.Russia is like. What China has shown in 2008 and what Britain has shown

:02:24. > :02:28.in 2012, a similar message. The point I want to make is that the

:02:29. > :02:33.show was not about propaganda or Russia. It was about how Russia

:02:34. > :02:42.contributed to the world. Does they do care about the money? -- does

:02:43. > :02:49.nobody care? Of course they do, but possibly not to the same extent as

:02:50. > :02:53.is being portrayed here. People are fixated on the number of $51

:02:54. > :02:56.billion. Russians have come to acknowledge the fact that corruption

:02:57. > :03:02.is something that has been with them for at least 400 years. So nothing

:03:03. > :03:10.new! Apart from that, what they would say, we are seeing the Sochi

:03:11. > :03:15.games as a way of transforming the whole of southern Russia. That would

:03:16. > :03:18.be the main message. We are building new roads and infrastructure,

:03:19. > :03:24.transforming the region. Although people do steal. I am shocked by

:03:25. > :03:29.that and obviously it never happened anywhere else! Lots of parallels

:03:30. > :03:39.there. People in London were whingeing about the games at London

:03:40. > :03:43.until they started. It was a lot of money and people now tends not to

:03:44. > :03:50.think about that. There is a blow that these things have. Yes, there

:03:51. > :03:55.are parallels. If you want to pitch for the Games, you have to picture

:03:56. > :03:58.regeneration project. There was nothing there before, which is part

:03:59. > :04:01.of the reason why it is so expensive, in addition to corruption

:04:02. > :04:06.and waste. They have built a Mountain ski resort from nothing.

:04:07. > :04:09.They have built a whole area on the coast where there was nothing

:04:10. > :04:16.before, just swampland. The day of reckoning will come when the Games

:04:17. > :04:22.are over and people will ask if it is the regeneration plan and if it

:04:23. > :04:26.will work. Was that $50 billion well spent? Given that it is happening

:04:27. > :04:30.against the background of the Russian economy slowing... When

:04:31. > :04:35.Vladimir Putin pitched to win the Games, in 2007, economic growth was

:04:36. > :04:39.strong and Russia was an ascendant power. Now oil prices are above $100

:04:40. > :04:44.on the Russian economy is stagnating. I think a lot of people

:04:45. > :04:49.do blame corruption for that as well as low productivity. I think

:04:50. > :04:54.Vladimir Putin may be facing a lot of questions when the Games Rover.

:04:55. > :05:02.Does it make us question the dynamic with in the country as well? In

:05:03. > :05:05.China, there was a proud country reasserting itself, but also it

:05:06. > :05:10.forced it to acknowledge the way it is seen around the world is

:05:11. > :05:19.important. That could be true of Russia. Yes, I think it is

:05:20. > :05:21.absolutely true to say that it is a resurgent Russia. After the collapse

:05:22. > :05:28.of the Soviet Union, there was a psychological collapse. To rebuild

:05:29. > :05:32.the regime and create a capitalist system is something that is taking

:05:33. > :05:38.time. The work is still in progress. The fact is that whether it is the

:05:39. > :05:41.energy resources of Russia or their manufacturing which is showing up

:05:42. > :05:49.these days, in the hardware of military design or any other field,

:05:50. > :05:56.I think Russia is certainly on the resurgent. What do you make of that?

:05:57. > :06:00.They used to say that the economy does not work and they make very

:06:01. > :06:04.little that people want to buy apart from oil and gas. It still does not

:06:05. > :06:08.work without the oil. That is all there is to the Russian economy. But

:06:09. > :06:12.this is not about Russia. It is about Vladimir Putin and this has

:06:13. > :06:16.been his year, thanks to the withdrawal of United States and the

:06:17. > :06:22.loss of any intervention in Syria. He became the Peacemaker, in

:06:23. > :06:26.inverted commas, in Syria and Iran, and it is very important for him in

:06:27. > :06:31.the most unlikely circumstances. The most unlikely person as well. The

:06:32. > :06:35.former KGB thug becomes Peacemaker for the world. It is very important

:06:36. > :06:41.for him that the prestige of these games should be sustained beyond

:06:42. > :06:44.when they finish. There was a very funny incident when the display of

:06:45. > :06:50.the five Olympic circles was supposed to turn into the Olympic

:06:51. > :06:53.circles at one of them did not work but the Russian television audiences

:06:54. > :06:58.did not know that because as soon as it became apparent that it did not

:06:59. > :07:03.work, they substituted pre-recorded material. That is old Russia and

:07:04. > :07:08.Stalinism. And it does not make any sense because in the age of social

:07:09. > :07:12.media, people know. I want to make a couple of points. Your point about

:07:13. > :07:18.the lack of self-confidence among Russians is very true. I think

:07:19. > :07:22.Russia is a nation domestically, irrespective of how it might project

:07:23. > :07:27.itself internationally, domestically it is a work in progress in terms of

:07:28. > :07:32.the national ideal. They always say exports is the national ideal, then

:07:33. > :07:38.boil, then something else. It is very powerful and people were

:07:39. > :07:42.commenting that when the little girl was getting rid of the red balloon

:07:43. > :07:45.that was flying away, that red balloon was old Russia and she was

:07:46. > :07:51.the new Russia. That was very symbolic. I would agree with what

:07:52. > :07:55.you are saying. It is absolutely true that the Russia within is less

:07:56. > :07:59.confident than the Russia with its foreign policy. There is no doubt

:08:00. > :08:03.that Russia has played a constructive role, whether in Syria

:08:04. > :08:07.or Iran, and that cannot be underestimated. When it comes to the

:08:08. > :08:10.various issues raised in connection with Sochi, starting with terrorist

:08:11. > :08:17.threats and hotel conditions not being up to the mark, starting with

:08:18. > :08:23.anti-gay legislation, and of course construction costs and corruption, I

:08:24. > :08:28.would say that certainly when it comes to the terrorist threat and

:08:29. > :08:31.when it comes to the hotel conditions not being up to the

:08:32. > :08:36.mark, these are matters of international concern. I am not

:08:37. > :08:40.really sure whether corruption or the cost of construction is an

:08:41. > :08:47.international matter. It is more a domestic Russian issue. So is, I

:08:48. > :08:51.guess, the anti-gay aspect. Although I can understand that the gay

:08:52. > :08:53.movement internationally is concerned. Whether it is a

:08:54. > :08:59.Government to Government matter, I am not really sure. I think some of

:09:00. > :09:02.the media coverage in the West has been a bit mean-spirited. It was

:09:03. > :09:07.entertaining at first and then I read the Daily Mail's description of

:09:08. > :09:13.the Opening Ceremony and I thought, you know what? Enough is enough. I

:09:14. > :09:18.totally agree with you. The important thing here is that if you

:09:19. > :09:23.went to cheering, if you went to Athens, probably the organising

:09:24. > :09:29.committee did not think about what important thing. -- if you went to

:09:30. > :09:36.Turin. That is to make sure that the journalists are happy when they

:09:37. > :09:42.arrive! It is important that if you have yellow water coming out of your

:09:43. > :09:47.apartment, of course that is important. But if you can take care

:09:48. > :09:50.of sports people, please take care of international journalists.

:09:51. > :09:55.They're working hard to look like a 21st century country keeping up with

:09:56. > :09:58.25th entry standards, so this is embarrassing. I think the gay rights

:09:59. > :10:03.issue is different. It raises the issue of human rights and civil

:10:04. > :10:07.liberty is, and whether or not it is an autocratic country, a modern

:10:08. > :10:15.democratic country. I think that will be the most serious question

:10:16. > :10:17.inside and outside. Can I switch slightly because this week David

:10:18. > :10:21.Cameron chose to refer to Olympics as something to do with United

:10:22. > :10:25.Kingdom's national image. At the Olympic Park in London, not

:10:26. > :10:29.Scotland, which was picked up by the SNP, he said that we are better

:10:30. > :10:37.together and he told people to phone a friend and tell them to vote no.

:10:38. > :10:41.The Deputy First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said that David Cameron

:10:42. > :10:45.talking like this is the embodiment of every reason why you should vote

:10:46. > :10:48.yes. That is probably why he is not going to Scotland. This is

:10:49. > :10:53.tantamount to saying that this is class war. The old Etonian

:10:54. > :10:57.upper-class image is a death in Scotland. That adds a political

:10:58. > :11:02.dimension that for the most part the SNP is not really admitting, that

:11:03. > :11:05.this is as much about straightforward politics, class

:11:06. > :11:11.politics, as it is about Scottish independence, and that is an

:11:12. > :11:14.imported admission. If I may play devils advocate? When it comes to

:11:15. > :11:18.the Commonwealth Games in Glasgow this year, Alec Salmond will say

:11:19. > :11:24.exactly the same. I agree that it will probably be a no vote. Pakistan

:11:25. > :11:28.opened talks with the Taliban this week. How far is it possible to

:11:29. > :11:32.reach some kind of an agreement with the state with a troubled democratic

:11:33. > :11:35.history and an organisation that wishes to govern according to

:11:36. > :11:40.extreme interpretations of the Koran? Presumably it is better than

:11:41. > :11:48.shooting each other but do you think it places much faith in these

:11:49. > :11:52.negotiations? I would like to compliment the Prime Minister for

:11:53. > :11:56.the initiative. It was an election promise and he has pursued it.

:11:57. > :12:00.Despite the fact the army has been against any soft approach to the

:12:01. > :12:04.Taliban. He had gone ahead with the talks. The important question, as

:12:05. > :12:10.you have raised, is whether the talks have any prospects. First of

:12:11. > :12:14.all, we are at the stage where both sides are negotiating about talks,

:12:15. > :12:21.rather than engaging in talks. We are at the precondition stage, where

:12:22. > :12:25.five conditions have been put by the Pakistan Government to the Taliban.

:12:26. > :12:30.One of them is that there should be a complete cessation of hostilities.

:12:31. > :12:38.Then on the other side, from the Taliban side, there are two demands.

:12:39. > :12:42.This is a difficult one, they want an imposition of Sharia law as

:12:43. > :12:49.opposed to British law in Pakistan. The second one is the withdrawal of

:12:50. > :12:57.all American troops from the region. In Afghanistan? Exactly. Obviously

:12:58. > :13:01.Pakistan has no jurisdiction over the movement of American troops in

:13:02. > :13:07.Afghanistan. It is a sovereign country, separate country, and even

:13:08. > :13:11.within Pakistan, which is a continental nation as opposed to

:13:12. > :13:16.being an Arabic country, for it to switch dramatically from British

:13:17. > :13:23.jurisprudence to Sharia law is not going to be easy. I doubt very much

:13:24. > :13:26.whether it will happen. Just on that point, especially since in Pakistan

:13:27. > :13:30.there has been a rather difficult history of army takeovers and so on,

:13:31. > :13:34.it has quite often been the judiciary and the lawyers who have

:13:35. > :13:39.been the last bastions of democratic civil society. Am I right?

:13:40. > :13:44.Absolutely right. There has also been annexes between the army and

:13:45. > :13:59.the intelligence wing and the extreme right-wing forces. -- a

:14:00. > :14:04.nexus. This is very difficult for the Pakistani Government. Should we

:14:05. > :14:09.congratulate them. In it? It was inevitable I think, because they

:14:10. > :14:13.were up against a wall. It was the irresistible force. The value

:14:14. > :14:17.systems are completely incompatible, totally incompatible.

:14:18. > :14:21.The idea that something productive could come out of this, you can't

:14:22. > :14:23.pretend that this is like the British Government is dealing with

:14:24. > :14:29.Sinn Fein, former terrorists who have decided to go legal. Their

:14:30. > :14:36.whole value systems and their political assumptions are completely

:14:37. > :14:40.incompatible. What can come out of this, the most you can hope is to

:14:41. > :14:44.avert outright civil war. I was reading about this and it struck me

:14:45. > :14:47.that the umbrella group that represents the Taliban surely

:14:48. > :14:51.represents many diverse groups within it, so it would be very hard

:14:52. > :14:57.to control any agreement that they come up with. Another thing is what

:14:58. > :15:06.are you going to do with presumably foreign fighters? I remember when

:15:07. > :15:10.Boris Yeltsin was trying to negotiate with Chechen leaders in

:15:11. > :15:14.the mid 90s, which Vladimir Putin completely opposes and he said we

:15:15. > :15:20.never negotiated with the Chechens. He pacified Chechnya in the way he

:15:21. > :15:23.wanted it done. Some people were always referring to Boris Yeltsin as

:15:24. > :15:27.a traitor as soon as he started talking to people on that side of

:15:28. > :15:34.the border, although church any was part of the country. -- Chechnya was

:15:35. > :15:41.part of the country. They were not imposing Sharia law. It was just

:15:42. > :15:52.about imposing the end of Ireland in the first place. -- the end of

:15:53. > :15:56.violence. The former governor has suggested that tried is more

:15:57. > :16:01.important than some of the constructor come from outside of the

:16:02. > :16:03.country, and perhaps the government recognises effectively what you are

:16:04. > :16:08.saying, you can negotiate with most people involved in conflict, not all

:16:09. > :16:12.of them, but most of them. But I think there is the question of, if

:16:13. > :16:18.they can get a video, can it be implemented if there are Al-Qaeda

:16:19. > :16:21.affiliates in some of those regions? I think the Pakistani ambassador to

:16:22. > :16:26.the US summed it up pretty well when he said recently that you can't

:16:27. > :16:30.negotiate with people who wants to bring the country back to the eighth

:16:31. > :16:39.century. The Gulf is so huge between their positions, and I was reading

:16:40. > :16:42.some speculation that this is... There had been pressure or

:16:43. > :16:47.expectation that the military would respond against terrorist attacks

:16:48. > :16:51.recently, but this may be a tactic by Sherif, going, try negotiations.

:16:52. > :16:58.They are likely to fail, but this would give a clean slate for a

:16:59. > :17:02.military response. Exactly, to justify that. I have done it, I have

:17:03. > :17:07.tried, and now the Army can take over, and that is not unlikely,

:17:08. > :17:10.because there is a lot of scepticism in Pakistan about what Sharif is

:17:11. > :17:15.doing at the moment. The Army has been briefing media about this being

:17:16. > :17:19.a weakness on the part of the Pakistani government. Let's move on

:17:20. > :17:23.to what is clearly the biggest story of the week, the British government

:17:24. > :17:28.having been forced to earmark a lot more money for flood defences after

:17:29. > :17:32.another week of stormy weather. All around the world, we are

:17:33. > :17:35.experiencing what some US commentators called global we

:17:36. > :17:39.thing, very strange weather patterns. Will all this and public

:17:40. > :17:42.concern forced government to think differently? Is it time for the

:17:43. > :17:47.debate with climate change sceptics to be drawn to an end? There are two

:17:48. > :17:50.different parts of that, but on government thinking differently,

:17:51. > :17:55.this government has clearly begun to start differently. Yes, but not

:17:56. > :18:01.about climate change, about dredging rivers. They have excepted climate

:18:02. > :18:06.change, broadly, haven't they? Yes. But with respect, this isn't a

:18:07. > :18:08.climate change story, this is a government agency incompetence

:18:09. > :18:12.story, and to the extent that environmental issues have come into

:18:13. > :18:17.it, if they actually seem to have been detrimental. A great deal of

:18:18. > :18:20.money and energy has been spent on protecting the natural habitat of

:18:21. > :18:24.the wildlife of that area. In fact, there is evidence that the brothers

:18:25. > :18:30.have deliberately not been dredged in order to save the habitat of

:18:31. > :18:34.wildlife in the area. -- the rivers. And the river dredging, which had

:18:35. > :18:40.gone on for 200 years and had prevented floods, even, perhaps, in

:18:41. > :18:43.very extreme weather in the past, have prevented this kind of

:18:44. > :18:52.catastrophic flooding, has not been done since 1990. So I think the

:18:53. > :18:55.viral mental issues cuts both ways. One of the climate change advisors

:18:56. > :18:59.for this government said, not just for the narrow issue, for everyone

:19:00. > :19:05.power and you spend on protecting properties in places like Somerset,

:19:06. > :19:12.you save ?8 and clean up, so it is a good thing to invest in. He was very

:19:13. > :19:14.clear that there has been a shift in weather patterns causing a great

:19:15. > :19:19.deal more damage, and governments must get together. Yes, but even if

:19:20. > :19:25.they do get together on the broad point, you're talking about possible

:19:26. > :19:27.solutions and 50 or 60 years. The extent to which Britain unilaterally

:19:28. > :19:33.could affect the overall climate conditions of the world, within

:19:34. > :19:36.Britain, there are specific, concrete practical policies which

:19:37. > :19:40.have not been followed, which could have been followed, and I'm afraid

:19:41. > :19:42.this has been a shameful incident within government agencies and

:19:43. > :19:46.government responsibility to the people of this region. That is

:19:47. > :19:54.certainly what people in Somerset have been saying. Yes, I think

:19:55. > :19:57.pretty much worldwide, there is increasing evidence that climate

:19:58. > :20:00.change is beginning to affect farming, and therefore, if this

:20:01. > :20:05.continues the decades, there could be a food crisis. A time has come

:20:06. > :20:11.where people need to arrest what is going on. That being the case, I

:20:12. > :20:17.think we are seeing more and more proactive measures. In Britain,

:20:18. > :20:21.geographically a small country, where extreme weather conditions

:20:22. > :20:29.prevail, vast areas of the country are affected, and therefore, I

:20:30. > :20:32.noticed an opinion shift, not only among the conservatives, which is

:20:33. > :20:37.important, because the Conservatives have been slightly divided on this,

:20:38. > :20:44.but also, most importantly, among the people. And if the West Country,

:20:45. > :20:48.which is relatively conservative or liberal country, as opposed to being

:20:49. > :20:52.Labour territory, is going to be swayed by bizarre given, then think

:20:53. > :20:59.Britain is sadly moving in the direction of proactive measures as

:21:00. > :21:03.far as climate change is concerned. I am more interested in the

:21:04. > :21:06.government response. Climate change is here, it is a matter of how we

:21:07. > :21:10.respond. It seems like their response has been too but they

:21:11. > :21:14.plaster on a gaping wound. I was really surprised at the environment

:21:15. > :21:19.Minister's response on the ground. The buyer and agency had. He seems

:21:20. > :21:26.to display a remarkable lack of sympathy for local resident. It took

:21:27. > :21:31.him a while to get down there as well. Yes, his first visit? It is

:21:32. > :21:36.shocking it took him that long. He doesn't want to give an apology, but

:21:37. > :21:40.the lack of sympathy he displayed, I think, was probably the last nail in

:21:41. > :21:46.the Coffin. I don't know how he's going to get beyond that. Well, the

:21:47. > :21:53.government has a problem with getting rid of people who are in

:21:54. > :21:58.non-governmental... Quangos, who happen to have a Labour past. He is

:21:59. > :22:04.going anyway in July, so I think he will effectively go before then,

:22:05. > :22:08.because he will be an absent force. The narrow issue and the white

:22:09. > :22:17.issue. The narrow issue is, are the agencies we have, including the

:22:18. > :22:21.government, been acting competently? It is not only Britain that is

:22:22. > :22:25.affected, huge parts of Russia have been affected by floods, for

:22:26. > :22:32.example. Unprecedented floods, actually, floods on the size of, if

:22:33. > :22:39.you take the territory of Britain, it could be whole counties wide. So

:22:40. > :22:42.Russia's position was always to tackle this particular crisis, and

:22:43. > :22:51.it is very short-term as a policy, so if you take a wider kind of

:22:52. > :22:55.problem on a government level, or a level of several decades, Russia is

:22:56. > :22:58.not really interested in that, it would appear. First, the

:22:59. > :23:02.construction is not up to speed, so they are unable to trade. As long as

:23:03. > :23:06.they can pass the problem onto someone else, they don't care. The

:23:07. > :23:10.people at a new mothers all time. In Russia, it has not been snowing up

:23:11. > :23:20.until early January, which was amazing. I have never had a New

:23:21. > :23:23.Year's Day without snow, and people were thinking, I don't necessarily

:23:24. > :23:26.think this is high and Russian agendas, so when it comes to the UN

:23:27. > :23:34.or any international body, Russia has been problematic. I was

:23:35. > :23:41.interested, on the wider question, when we have debates between climate

:23:42. > :23:44.change sceptics and those who are scientists who study this, the

:23:45. > :23:47.thought is, there should not be a debate any more. Do you think we are

:23:48. > :23:51.at that point now, where the debate is still alive for most people, or

:23:52. > :23:58.frankly, they have made up their minds? I think it has shifted. There

:23:59. > :24:06.will, of course, be intransigent sceptics, but I think it is 's

:24:07. > :24:10.switching. It is hitting our bank balance in terms of higher water

:24:11. > :24:14.bills, high energy prices, higher insurance rates, and so on. But it

:24:15. > :24:19.would hit as the other way, wouldn't it? The alternative argument is that

:24:20. > :24:23.similar things being suggested would limit our to grow the economy and

:24:24. > :24:25.hitters in the long-term as well. I don't think that has been

:24:26. > :24:32.articulated the popular consciousness. A great deal of the

:24:33. > :24:36.developing world, because what you are effectively saying in this

:24:37. > :24:39.proposed climate change legislation is, the developing world must not be

:24:40. > :24:44.allowed to become as rich and as comfortable and as well provided for

:24:45. > :24:54.as the already developed world has been for a generation or two. That

:24:55. > :24:57.is a very serious thing. That is the problem, because I think the

:24:58. > :25:01.developed world needs to make the sacrifice. They are ready at an

:25:02. > :25:03.advanced stage of development, and their economies are in far better

:25:04. > :25:08.shape than the developing world. Yes, countries the size of China and

:25:09. > :25:12.India do have to make it isn't sacrifice, but they are at a

:25:13. > :25:16.developing stage, and therefore they cannot be expected to make the same

:25:17. > :25:19.sacrifice as the developed nations. I think quite a lot of Chinese

:25:20. > :25:28.commentators accent that they would be very badly hit by some of these,

:25:29. > :25:31.disproportionately, perhaps, as Wilson areas of India and

:25:32. > :25:35.Bangladesh. Indeed, and therefore countries like India and China have

:25:36. > :25:39.to take into account that they must slow down certain processes, whether

:25:40. > :25:43.that is emissions, any other control that they can bring about, where

:25:44. > :25:47.deforestation has taken place, you read plants trees there, and there

:25:48. > :25:51.are many things that can be done. The thing is, of course, take time

:25:52. > :25:57.to really Germany, but at the same time, I think the West, and by that

:25:58. > :26:01.I mean the first world, have to make a slightly greater sacrifice. We

:26:02. > :26:04.will have to leave it there. We will be back next week at the same time.

:26:05. > :26:32.You can comment on the programme on Twitter. Goodbye.

:26:33. > :26:38.Hello. The weather continues to make headlines. We have seen the latest

:26:39. > :26:41.in a string of big storms to affect the UK, and today, we have an amber

:26:42. > :26:46.warning in force from The Met Office. That is what stronger Nam

:26:47. > :26:51.June wins for many places. An area of low pressure, and you can see to

:26:52. > :26:54.the south of it, tight as bars, bringing us a southerly or

:26:55. > :26:56.south-westerly gale through the course of the day. They could be

:26:57. > :26:57.quite