:00:22. > :00:23.Hello and welcome to Dateline London.
:00:24. > :00:28.European neighbour, Ireland.
:00:29. > :00:32.And the prospects for a ceasefire in Syria.
:00:33. > :00:41.who is an Irish writer and broadcaster,
:00:42. > :00:45.Nazenin Ansari of Iran's Kayhan London.
:00:46. > :00:51.Abdel Bari Atwan who is an Arab writer
:00:52. > :00:54.Britain has one land border with a European Union country -
:00:55. > :00:57.Ireland - which has had its own election this week,
:00:58. > :00:59.as Britain prepares for a referendum on EU membership.
:01:00. > :01:01.What differences would an out vote make to relations with Britain's
:01:02. > :01:10.Are people interested in this in Ireland or do they not care? Yes.
:01:11. > :01:14.Counting the votes today in Ireland in the General Election. It is very
:01:15. > :01:18.unclear how they are going to form a coalition. A lot of people suggest
:01:19. > :01:24.between free Miguel, the outgoing party and Fianna fail, the party
:01:25. > :01:26.booted out in 2011 after the economic collapse. Best Fine Gael.
:01:27. > :01:32.The one thing for sure is that whichever government is in power in
:01:33. > :01:35.a week or so's time, one of the things that will be keeping them
:01:36. > :01:38.awake at night is the result of the vote on the 23rd June here and
:01:39. > :01:45.whether Britain stays in the European Union or not. Ireland wants
:01:46. > :01:50.Britain to remain in the European Union for economic reasons. Written
:01:51. > :01:56.is Ireland's biggest single export market, and if you look at the
:01:57. > :02:00.figures between both Britain and Ireland it's something like 1
:02:01. > :02:06.billion euros, almost 1 billion sterling a week moving between the
:02:07. > :02:10.two Rylance, 400,000 jobs on the two Islands dependent on that trade.
:02:11. > :02:15.Nobody is suggesting it's all going to stop. But there is a lot of
:02:16. > :02:21.uncertainty. Uncertainty is bad for investment. Do you think the broad
:02:22. > :02:25.view in Ireland is the same as from the G20, which is "Shock" to the
:02:26. > :02:29.world economy and the chancellor George Osborne is saying it would be
:02:30. > :02:34.an even bigger shock to Great Britain and presumably to Ireland?
:02:35. > :02:40.Absolutely. Ahmmed is a small, open economy. Ireland is very open to any
:02:41. > :02:45.of the global shocks that they have been talking about in the G20 for
:02:46. > :02:49.the last couple of days, no doubt about that. But Britain leaving the
:02:50. > :02:56.EU would definitely be an economic shock to Ireland. Isn't the problem
:02:57. > :02:59.with the stay in side, Polly, that it is riven with uncertainty?
:03:00. > :03:03.The Chancellor said also it would be a leap in the dark to leave but
:03:04. > :03:10.isn't it a leap in the dark to stay because the European Union is
:03:11. > :03:12.changing so rapidly to Schengen may be completely finished. Are
:03:13. > :03:17.discharging so rapidly we don't know what we'd be staying in, never mind
:03:18. > :03:20.what we'd be getting out of. We're not in Schengen anyway so that
:03:21. > :03:26.doesn't affect us. We're not in the euro and not in a lot of things. I
:03:27. > :03:30.think that the future is always uncertain. You are always going to
:03:31. > :03:35.have to take a punt. Do we think the risk is being here and there? It is
:03:36. > :03:40.true that Europe is at the moment is not an easy sell. It's in a state of
:03:41. > :03:43.chaos and in a state of fury with the self, that used against the
:03:44. > :03:48.West, North against the South, austerity, migration, one of this is
:03:49. > :03:51.a really difficult time for the on campaign to be saying, isn't it
:03:52. > :03:57.wonderful? But on the whole the balance of probabilities, it won't
:03:58. > :04:00.be about the details, endless figures will be slung across
:04:01. > :04:04.television studios like this and people will have to say, in the end,
:04:05. > :04:10.as they do at general elections, do I basically think this lot or that
:04:11. > :04:13.lot are safer for me, my family, my job, my mortgage, my children's
:04:14. > :04:20.future and my country's future? In the end they just have to plump for
:04:21. > :04:23.one or the other. Iran has its own problems and is not the trading
:04:24. > :04:27.partner it was in the past to Britain. What are your views about
:04:28. > :04:31.this and the choice that will dominate our politics for the next
:04:32. > :04:38.three months? Obviously when you look at Ireland and Britain they
:04:39. > :04:41.have so much in common, it is part sentimentality, it is history,
:04:42. > :04:50.culture as you said, geography, and as you said trade between the two is
:04:51. > :04:57.1 billion euros a week, which is immense. Obviously I think one thing
:04:58. > :05:04.that I think we haven't heard about which is why Britain should stay in
:05:05. > :05:10.Europe, how Europe has been good for modern. It has always been appealing
:05:11. > :05:14.to our fears. They should come a time when we appeal to what is good
:05:15. > :05:20.and positive happening. -- good for Britain. If Britain leaves Europe,
:05:21. > :05:27.one has to say, perhaps actually Ireland will benefit from that
:05:28. > :05:35.Brexit. The Institute for economic and social research Institute said
:05:36. > :05:42.inward foreign direct investment into Ireland might increase to $6.6
:05:43. > :05:45.billion. Because if you are looking for an English speaking country in
:05:46. > :05:49.the European Union Ireland would be a good place to start? Obviously the
:05:50. > :05:55.language is there and they share a common border. There are a lot of
:05:56. > :06:01.positives. These are all uncertainties and estimates, very
:06:02. > :06:05.broad estimates. Investors want certainty, as much certainty as
:06:06. > :06:09.possible. But at the same time, if I may, there is something else that
:06:10. > :06:13.Britain and Ireland, a few other things that Britain and Ireland
:06:14. > :06:15.share in common, that's their financial services, the
:06:16. > :06:24.international market will stop they have a lot of economic approach that
:06:25. > :06:27.is very much the same. Please, go on. I'm really surprised I couldn't
:06:28. > :06:32.understand the oddments of the Eurosceptics to be honest. Even if
:06:33. > :06:37.the Eurozone is facing difficulties, the European Union facing a lot of
:06:38. > :06:41.problems, immigration... This is not an excuse for written to say you are
:06:42. > :06:50.sinking and I'm jumping off the boat. -- Britain to say. This is
:06:51. > :06:53.really shocking. And what shocked me more was somebody like Boris Johnson
:06:54. > :07:01.who is the mayor of a cosmopolitan city of London where everybody is
:07:02. > :07:04.coexisting cannot coexist with other Europeans and says, we should leave
:07:05. > :07:11.the European Union. What kind of mentality is this? The argument is
:07:12. > :07:14.we would have more control over our laws and destiny and the European
:07:15. > :07:17.Union isn't working and hasn't worked for us, that is effectively
:07:18. > :07:21.the argument, and it's about sovereignty for Britain. The counter
:07:22. > :07:27.are you sovereign when you join Nato? And when you have this special
:07:28. > :07:31.relationship with the United States fighting its war all over the world?
:07:32. > :07:35.This is the problem. Are you sovereign if you quit the European
:07:36. > :07:40.Union? What will happen after that? It is a very strong club and you are
:07:41. > :07:44.leaving it command the problem is this country could be disintegrated,
:07:45. > :07:49.to be honest, if you wanted the Scots to stay in the United Kingdom
:07:50. > :07:54.and now you want to quit the European Union, why should the Irish
:07:55. > :07:58.and the Scots and Welsh stay with you? Even worse, the Good Friday
:07:59. > :08:02.Agreement come and that is predicated on a guarantee from
:08:03. > :08:06.Dublin for peace in Northern Ireland. If we have to go through a
:08:07. > :08:11.whole huge treaty negotiation across the border, may be risking a lot of
:08:12. > :08:14.that billion dollar a week trade what happens to the Good Friday
:08:15. > :08:20.Agreement and how much at risk is it? I really wanted to annoy you by
:08:21. > :08:25.asking why is it that if Fianna fail and Fina girl have set their face
:08:26. > :08:29.against sharing power with Sinn Fein but happy to let them share power in
:08:30. > :08:32.Northern Ireland with the Democratic Unionist Party can what is it about
:08:33. > :08:34.Fianna fail and Fina girl that doesn't recognise there have been
:08:35. > :08:41.changes within Sinn Fein? LAUGHTER
:08:42. > :08:47.How long have we got? -- Fina Gail and Fianna Fail. On the exit polls
:08:48. > :08:55.it looks like the only workable coalition would be between Fianna
:08:56. > :08:59.Fail and Fina Gail at the moment. They have this historical divide
:09:00. > :09:04.since the Civil War. There is nothing between them politically, or
:09:05. > :09:08.socially. They were both on the same side during the marriage equality
:09:09. > :09:14.referendum last year, for example. There is no reason why they couldn't
:09:15. > :09:20.govern together. What Fianna Fail is worried about is it will cast Sinn
:09:21. > :09:23.Fein is the main opposition party, a left-wing opposition party against a
:09:24. > :09:30.coalition of two centre-right parties. But it will also mean that
:09:31. > :09:37.one will eat the other in that coalition. Which is what we have
:09:38. > :09:42.seen here. Look at the Tories and Liberal Democrats. Somebody will
:09:43. > :09:45.come out worse and Fianna Fail are recovering after taking a big drop
:09:46. > :09:53.in the polls in 2011 and they don't want to be left with Fine Gael on
:09:54. > :09:59.one side in the coalition and the other Republican party, Sinn Fein,
:10:00. > :10:07.in opposition. Sorry to interrupt you. The question about the border.
:10:08. > :10:12.How dangerous would vote no be in Northern Ireland? Enda Kenny, the
:10:13. > :10:15.Taoiseach came to the Confederation of British Industry last November
:10:16. > :10:21.and he said, I can't remember his exact words, but he intimated that
:10:22. > :10:25.it would put things at risk in Northern Ireland, the political
:10:26. > :10:31.settlement. He got criticised for that. But in reality, what the Good
:10:32. > :10:34.Friday Agreement and the whole political infrastructure that has
:10:35. > :10:38.been very carefully put together relies on, is the integrity of the
:10:39. > :10:46.United Kingdom and the integrity of the Republic of Ireland. If we are
:10:47. > :10:49.talking about a second Scottish referendum and then Scotland decides
:10:50. > :10:53.to leave, the United Kingdom starts to fracture before you even get to
:10:54. > :10:57.the stage of whether Northern Ireland would want to stay, you are
:10:58. > :11:00.taking away the scaffolding that is holding up this delicate
:11:01. > :11:09.power-sharing arrangement. Nobody is suggesting it's perfect, but it
:11:10. > :11:12.stopped the war and it is working. Let's move on because we are going
:11:13. > :11:13.to be talking about this for the next decade, probably!
:11:14. > :11:16.Please welcome the next president of the United States -
:11:17. > :11:21.Well, that is at least how he is introduced at Republican Party
:11:22. > :11:23.rallies - but could the boast become a reality?
:11:24. > :11:30.He has cheered up journalists all over the world, they have plenty to
:11:31. > :11:35.write about now! Plenty to write about but do we wish to live in
:11:36. > :11:38.exciting times? Not that exciting! What is extraordinary for
:11:39. > :11:43.journalists is when you transcribe his speeches, they are not speeches,
:11:44. > :11:45.just strings of we are going to win again and strings of vague
:11:46. > :11:53.aspirations. Make America great again. Make America great again,
:11:54. > :11:56.build a wall, all of it non sequiturs and nothing you can get a
:11:57. > :12:00.grip on, you cannot say he would do this or that. There are people who
:12:01. > :12:03.say that Ted Cruz would be a more alarming proposition for anybody in
:12:04. > :12:07.the centre or the centre-left, that he has a much more rigorous
:12:08. > :12:11.right-wing agenda and that Trump is so all over the place but possibly a
:12:12. > :12:15.certain kind of pragmatism with civil servants takes hold and he
:12:16. > :12:18.might not be quite as terrifying as his hair looks!
:12:19. > :12:23.LAUGHTER I wonder if one of the problems of
:12:24. > :12:26.seeing British and European coverage of American politics, having
:12:27. > :12:31.witnessed it for years is the tendency to seize like Donald Trump
:12:32. > :12:35.as if his stupid and he's absolutely not stupid. He's very shrewd, in my
:12:36. > :12:40.opinion, whether you agree with his policies or not. He's not stupid,
:12:41. > :12:45.definitely. To win three out of four and be ahead of everybody in the
:12:46. > :12:49.polls means he managed to communicate with the people. He
:12:50. > :12:54.managed to pass the message that people would like, or some people,
:12:55. > :13:01.would like to hear. It is true he's inciting violence, he's inciting
:13:02. > :13:05.hatred, he's inciting wars. But the problem is he realises that the
:13:06. > :13:12.United States is facing a lot of problems, losing a lot of its image,
:13:13. > :13:18.strength for the last eight years or so during Obama. He has deployed
:13:19. > :13:23.this to his advantage. The problem is this man has no experience.
:13:24. > :13:30.That's his 7-point. A lot of people say that is his selling point. --
:13:31. > :13:37.selling point. If somebody made a lot of money here from the property
:13:38. > :13:41.boom is he entitled to be the Prime Minister? What is his experience?
:13:42. > :13:45.It's not going to affect the United States, it's going to affect us.
:13:46. > :13:50.That's the problem, it's going to affect the whole world. What is his
:13:51. > :13:54.economic experience? What is his agenda for the Far East and the
:13:55. > :13:58.Middle East, and economic meltdown, economic crisis, Europe? We have
:13:59. > :14:06.never heard anything about this. How can a presidential candidate not
:14:07. > :14:11.tell us his relation, or how he will deal with these international
:14:12. > :14:17.problems? We know he has said a lot of things. One of the things about
:14:18. > :14:26.Obama is like in New Hampshire NPR did a National Public Radio study on
:14:27. > :14:33.how much was spent per vote and Mr Obama had spent $31, whereas Mr Bush
:14:34. > :14:43.had spent over $500 and he had lost. I think Mr Obama and Mr Trump. Not
:14:44. > :14:48.easy to confuse! They are both using social media and that's one of the
:14:49. > :14:52.aspects you have to look at with the Trump candidacy. What Polly was
:14:53. > :14:59.saying is it's ideal for the Twitter generation, 140 character policies.
:15:00. > :15:04.He has policies that stick to aspirations. The press don't like
:15:05. > :15:08.Trump, the institutions don't like Trump, but Trump appeals to the
:15:09. > :15:12.voter. That's because the people don't like the press and don't like
:15:13. > :15:18.the institutions, many of them. That is why they vote for Trump. He is
:15:19. > :15:22.antiestablishment. The reason antiestablishment works at the
:15:23. > :15:25.moment is because deep down people's living standards that they've been
:15:26. > :15:29.used to all of their lives, increasing year by year, have
:15:30. > :15:36.absolutely stagnated. The middle and below right across Europe and
:15:37. > :15:41.America have found their standard of living effectively deteriorating.
:15:42. > :15:44.Elizabeth Warren, Senator for Massachusetts, interesting
:15:45. > :15:48.commentator on this, said the trouble is that the middle-class is
:15:49. > :15:51.either or dying as far as many people are concerned they feel the
:15:52. > :15:55.great American middle class which has been responsible for the
:15:56. > :15:59.post-war boom has gone. It has gone, the baby boomers. It is the
:16:00. > :16:03.polarisation of politics. We see it in lots of other countries, in
:16:04. > :16:08.Britain to a certain extent. It is not unusual. The thing that
:16:09. > :16:12.surprised me was I was trying to think if Donald Trump work to become
:16:13. > :16:15.President, has there ever been a President who came from business in
:16:16. > :16:22.America? Isn't it surprisingly hasn't? I can't think of any. From
:16:23. > :16:26.the military. From the military and political establishment but not
:16:27. > :16:30.somebody from real estate. He is from property. There are those who
:16:31. > :16:33.say that given the enormous inheritance he has, if he'd simply
:16:34. > :16:39.invested it in the stock market he'd be roughly as rich as he is now. Or
:16:40. > :16:44.he would be richer. He hasn't made much of the vast inheritance he has.
:16:45. > :16:48.And he doesn't have a connection with manufacturing or real business.
:16:49. > :16:53.Talking about social media, I will tell you about it in the middle
:16:54. > :16:57.east. The most popular people on Twitter are those preachers of
:16:58. > :17:02.hatred in our part of the world who are supporting Islamic State, Isis.
:17:03. > :17:06.This is the problem. Al Baghdadi is like Donald Trump, for example. Both
:17:07. > :17:10.of them are using social media in order to communicate with people.
:17:11. > :17:17.You cannot go that far! Al Baghdadi and Donald Trump. We can go that far
:17:18. > :17:22.because Donald Trump is advocating... Donald Trump has not
:17:23. > :17:31.promoted violence. Yet! He has said don't allow Muslims in. This is
:17:32. > :17:36.hatred, racism. That is true. But once the primaries are over he will
:17:37. > :17:41.start eating up his words. If he becomes President, can he travel to
:17:42. > :17:46.Saudi Arabia, for example? No. Prince Walid, who is one of the
:17:47. > :17:51.richest man in Saudi Arabia has said has saved Mr Trump twice from
:17:52. > :17:57.bankruptcy. He will start to eat his own words. But he is not inciting
:17:58. > :18:00.violence. We don't have any guarantees, this is your wishful
:18:01. > :18:06.thinking. That he will eat his words. It is interesting that all of
:18:07. > :18:09.the people planning to ban Mr Trump from coming to the United Kingdom
:18:10. > :18:13.have gone remarkably silent now he is possibly going to be the next
:18:14. > :18:17.President. That was always a fringe movement and a spasm of terror. It
:18:18. > :18:21.is true that if he has said he will allow no more Muslims in, how are
:18:22. > :18:25.Muslims within America going to feel them and how will Muslims in the
:18:26. > :18:29.world feel, even if he doesn't want to go to war as George Bush did with
:18:30. > :18:35.Muslims, he needs to be in a position to make peace and have
:18:36. > :18:42.influence and relationships. Banning Trump got debated in the House of
:18:43. > :18:46.Commons. You only get a little debate in Westminster, which nobody
:18:47. > :18:48.reports on, or pays any attention. It was debated by MPs. Let's move on
:18:49. > :18:52.to what might be good news. A cessation of hostilities has
:18:53. > :18:54.been announced in Syria And if possible - where would that
:18:55. > :19:03.leave the fight against so-called It has been quite quiet. It is just
:19:04. > :19:10.a few hours. Everybody is happy that it is to holding and there has not
:19:11. > :19:14.been any bombardment. But this is extremely misleading. The
:19:15. > :19:21.bombardment is continuing. Because the al-Nusra Front, Isis, they are
:19:22. > :19:26.not included in this kind of ceasefire. The Russians will
:19:27. > :19:30.continue bombing their position and we don't know what will happen. OK,
:19:31. > :19:36.the Russians can strike a deal with Bashar Al-Assad, say to him stay
:19:37. > :19:42.quiet, listen to us, we are your boss. But whether the Americans can
:19:43. > :19:45.actually silence or impose this ceasefire on 250 factions, armed
:19:46. > :19:50.factions in Syria, is the biggest challenge. What will happen after
:19:51. > :19:56.the ceasefire? The Turks themselves who are a major player will save we
:19:57. > :20:02.will continue shelling the Kurds and we will not commit ourselves to this
:20:03. > :20:06.ceasefire. So it is not going to work, honestly. And what will happen
:20:07. > :20:10.after that, OK, if it collapses, what will happen? The division of
:20:11. > :20:15.Syria as John Kerry warned us. If it does succeed there will be a
:20:16. > :20:18.political solution. It is very ambiguous. How can you monitor the
:20:19. > :20:23.ceasefire? You don't have troops on the ground. You don't have the UN on
:20:24. > :20:29.the ground to tell who is violating it and who has committed to it. This
:20:30. > :20:32.is the problem. How is it seen from Terad, there is the political
:20:33. > :20:37.context with the election is going on, how do people view this --
:20:38. > :20:45.Tehran. The people of Iran who went and voted yesterday don't want a
:20:46. > :20:50.rainier involvement in the Syria. Iran has paid a heavy price for its
:20:51. > :20:55.involvement in Syria. -- Iranians and. Over 100 commanders have died
:20:56. > :21:02.and more than $10 billion has been spent. Up to $15 billion, 2014-15.
:21:03. > :21:08.It has been a costly exercise for the Islamic regime in Iran. For the
:21:09. > :21:12.deep state that is ruling Iran today. But on the positive side in
:21:13. > :21:17.the past year there has apparently been a reduction of Iranians
:21:18. > :21:24.involvement in Syria as the Russians have taken over. But at the end of
:21:25. > :21:27.the day one thing which is positive and which might guarantee at least
:21:28. > :21:35.that there will be some sort of ceasefire going on is the agreement
:21:36. > :21:40.between Russia and America. I think what you see happening in Syria is
:21:41. > :21:44.something in between, two states coming and the United States on one
:21:45. > :21:50.side and Russia on the other side, trying to settle scores between each
:21:51. > :21:53.other. And Ukraine is part of that. Let's be optimistic, doesn't 24
:21:54. > :21:57.hours yet and according to the last bullet and it is kind of holding.
:21:58. > :22:00.There are bound to be, because there always are and lots of people who
:22:01. > :22:04.won't agree with the ceasefire, there are bound to be car bombs,
:22:05. > :22:07.explosions and attacks, to which either side can be provoked into
:22:08. > :22:11.getting back into the bombing. What is important, and the way Obama has
:22:12. > :22:16.put this has been sensible, saying that will happen and this always
:22:17. > :22:21.happens and we just have to Hope that the goodwill of the Americans,
:22:22. > :22:27.Russians and Bashar Al-Assad holds. Because, five years of this has
:22:28. > :22:32.disrupted the whole world to such a degree and brought us to the brink
:22:33. > :22:35.of the new Cold War, hot war, between superpowers, and look what
:22:36. > :22:39.it has done to Europe in terms of the migration crisis which is
:22:40. > :22:46.destroying the European Union. Everything possible has to be pulled
:22:47. > :22:50.together to try and make this hold. And there will be disruptions and
:22:51. > :22:54.there will be breaking of it. The most dangerous point is the
:22:55. > :23:04.situation, the tension between Turkey and Russia. Nato power
:23:05. > :23:12.against Russia, very scary. Both of them saying, OK, if you provoke us
:23:13. > :23:22.we will bomb you. This is the problem. The Turks are very
:23:23. > :23:27.sensitive here. The convocation is, Erdogan is a close ally of the
:23:28. > :23:32.United States -- complication. At the same time America are backing
:23:33. > :23:37.and supporting the Kurds who are his archenemies there. How is it going
:23:38. > :23:40.to work? This is the problem. This is a five or six way international
:23:41. > :23:45.war where everybody is fighting their own personal part. Ekiza that
:23:46. > :23:49.fragmentation it is almost a certainty that it is going to break
:23:50. > :23:53.down. The cessation of hostilities or the ceasefire will break down,
:23:54. > :23:56.whatever you call it. Let's hope it doesn't break down to the extent
:23:57. > :24:01.that the aid they are trying to deliver gets delivered first.
:24:02. > :24:06.Do you think, in terms of Syria and Iraq, it's a bit difficult to see
:24:07. > :24:10.Humpty Dumpty being put back together again. In other words, you
:24:11. > :24:14.raise the prospect of countries shattering apart, which is what
:24:15. > :24:18.Turkey feels because where does that leave the Kurds? They would be an
:24:19. > :24:22.important player in that. Do you think we will ever go back to the
:24:23. > :24:26.100-year-old Borders? This is the problem. Lots of talks in the middle
:24:27. > :24:30.east that these borders will be rectified and it will be a division
:24:31. > :24:37.according to sectarian affiliation, or according to ethnic groups.
:24:38. > :24:41.People, especially in Turkey, have a feeling that America would like to
:24:42. > :24:45.rectify the Western mistake 100 years ago and create some sort of
:24:46. > :24:53.Federation for the Kurds, because they are the only people who were
:24:54. > :24:58.left out of the agreement. The Turks are very sensitive and it seems that
:24:59. > :25:02.this kind of Kurdish entity is emerging now in the north of Syria
:25:03. > :25:06.at the border with Turkey. I don't agree with that because the Kurds
:25:07. > :25:09.are divided between themselves and the Iranians Kurds, for example,
:25:10. > :25:14.don't agree with the other Kurds. They do. They do not. They see
:25:15. > :25:21.themselves as Iranians first. They do not. Their language is different.
:25:22. > :25:22.We will leave it there. Thank you all very much.
:25:23. > :25:24.That's it for Dateline London for this week.
:25:25. > :25:26.You can comment on the programme on Twitter @gavinesler.
:25:27. > :25:56.Hello. Most of us will have a dry weekend, some of us will stay fairly
:25:57. > :26:01.cloudy and there will be a brisk wind blowing across the South but
:26:02. > :26:02.there should be some sunshine and I fancy the Highlands of Scotland