:00:27. > :00:32.Hello, I'm Sean Lage, welcome to date line. This week, Hillary
:00:33. > :00:37.Clinton gets the nod from President Obama but still has to feel the
:00:38. > :00:40.burn. On an important anniversary for the women's movement, what
:00:41. > :00:44.difference would it make to have a woman president in the US. And here,
:00:45. > :00:49.less than two weeks before the vote that could take the UK out of the
:00:50. > :00:55.EU, the fruit of the UK has been placed on the centrestage. Here are
:00:56. > :01:04.or writers who said their careers trying to explain the British to the
:01:05. > :01:13.outside world. Stryker McGuire is an editor at Blomberg. Both he and Ned
:01:14. > :01:18.were born in the US. Welcome. Ned, first of all, let's begin with the
:01:19. > :01:22.US. This week, the people known in the US primaries as superdelegates
:01:23. > :01:28.have effectively handed Hillary Clinton victory in the contest to
:01:29. > :01:32.choose a Democrat candidate for November's presidential election.
:01:33. > :01:35.Not so super if you are Bernie Sanders. His supporters point out
:01:36. > :01:40.that super delegates could still change their mind at next month's
:01:41. > :01:44.convention. Even the intervention of the Obama has not persuaded Mr
:01:45. > :01:51.Sanders to concede. Meanwhile, Clinton's likely opponent Donald
:01:52. > :01:56.Trump has asked to meet the most influential of American
:01:57. > :02:03.Conservatives. Let's start with the Democrats, what is Bernie Sanders up
:02:04. > :02:07.to? I would be astonished if he doesn't concede after my hometown
:02:08. > :02:11.Washington, DC has its relevant presidential primary. Both the
:02:12. > :02:17.voters have voiced their opinion in Washington. I think on the
:02:18. > :02:25.Democratic side things are becoming clearer. Hillary is very fortunate
:02:26. > :02:31.in Hatra Serry, because even though there is natural reluctance -- in
:02:32. > :02:36.her adversarial. Reluctance among even young supporters of Bernie
:02:37. > :02:40.Sanders because it has been a bitter campaign, if the choice is Hillary
:02:41. > :02:47.or Trump, I don't think it is a difficult choice, and for that
:02:48. > :02:53.reason alone, we will see very soon people falling in. And indeed,
:02:54. > :02:57.Elizabeth Warren, who is a distinguished American senator also
:02:58. > :03:02.on the left side of the party has already endorsed Hillary. And even
:03:03. > :03:07.though puzzlingly she is not at all liked among many American voters,
:03:08. > :03:14.she is experienced, competent, and I think has strength that basically as
:03:15. > :03:21.the campaign goes on while showing. They brought she is also a fighter.
:03:22. > :03:26.-- will show. She can be really tough. That is what some people do
:03:27. > :03:31.not like about her. Not bizarrely, it is because she is a woman. You
:03:32. > :03:41.know, in some ways she can't win. In some ways, her sex is a problem.
:03:42. > :03:46.Obviously it shouldn't be, but it is a problem in the way that Obama's
:03:47. > :03:50.skin was a problem. There are people who will never vote for her for that
:03:51. > :03:55.reason. It also operates at a different level for young voters.
:03:56. > :03:59.She is a reminder of how little women have progressed in the US, in
:04:00. > :04:04.2016 we are still talking about having the first woman president. On
:04:05. > :04:06.the other hand, why is she saying to young women to convince them that
:04:07. > :04:20.gender equality is something that is going to happen in the US, she's not
:04:21. > :04:23.talking about paid paternity leave, something that surprisingly the US
:04:24. > :04:26.does not have. She is not talking about what she is going to do to
:04:27. > :04:28.help women get into politics. The US is behind Afghanistan in terms of
:04:29. > :04:33.gender representation in the United States. Our campaign is all about
:04:34. > :04:36.her, her claim to public office is to say, I am competent and
:04:37. > :04:41.experienced. It turns out that you need to have more of a vision, you
:04:42. > :04:45.need to be in tune also with what the country, and she represents an
:04:46. > :04:51.elite, she represents a political dynasty in American politics. And
:04:52. > :04:56.this is what, it has been a turn-off for those young voters who like
:04:57. > :05:00.Bernie Sanders. Striker, do you think she has managed to nail this
:05:01. > :05:03.negative, that she is perceived by a lot of voters as being part of the
:05:04. > :05:08.establishment that they blame for things being the way that they are?
:05:09. > :05:14.You know, she can't really... She can't nail it. The thing that she
:05:15. > :05:18.has most, will have most going for her, is that she is not Donald
:05:19. > :05:24.Trump. You know, people are going to... The choice for many people in
:05:25. > :05:29.the United States, it is just... I mean, I think it could be a huge
:05:30. > :05:34.loss for the Republicans. I think the Republican party could be in
:05:35. > :05:39.very serious trouble. I bet the Republicans wish they had
:05:40. > :05:43.superdelegates! She can't nail it, because it is true. Hillary Clinton
:05:44. > :05:48.needs Bernie's people, and I'm not sure that all of them will switch to
:05:49. > :05:53.her. You should see what goes on and social media, incredible. Paul on
:05:54. > :05:56.the Guardian pointing out, suggesting, that a great majority
:05:57. > :06:02.because of the Trump factor may hold the nose. In the end they will vote
:06:03. > :06:06.for her, I'm sure they will. I watched Elizabeth Warren's
:06:07. > :06:15.interview, bringing her onto the team would be a brilliant thing. As
:06:16. > :06:19.a vice president? Yes. That would infuse Bernie Sanders' supporters.
:06:20. > :06:28.If you can have one woman, why not to? -- why not two. She is in a
:06:29. > :06:31.strong position to do that kind of thing, not the conventional thing,
:06:32. > :06:38.it has got to be a man from Ohio, and he has to be from northern Ohio,
:06:39. > :06:42.that of thing. Let's talker but about Donald Trump. It has been a
:06:43. > :06:46.difficult week for him. -- let's talk a bit about Donald Trump. I was
:06:47. > :06:50.thinking more about the judge and the controversy over that. Ben
:06:51. > :06:56.Carson on Saturday morning, former Republican candidate who is now an
:06:57. > :06:59.adviser to Donald Trump is saying privately he fully recognises that
:07:00. > :07:03.this is not the right thing to say, to attack this judge who is dealing
:07:04. > :07:09.with a case that is to do with the former Trump University and why it
:07:10. > :07:17.failed. If you are a Democratic strategist, it isn't any more about
:07:18. > :07:22.what Donald Trump says. It is who he is. I'd Elizabeth Warren, perhaps a
:07:23. > :07:33.little cutie, said that he is a bully and a racist -- and Elizabeth
:07:34. > :07:41.Warren, perhaps a little OTT. A lot of Americans say he is calling it as
:07:42. > :07:45.it is. That is a worrying sign, so many Americans and Republicans got
:07:46. > :07:49.behind him, it was a line-up of right-wing candidates at this
:07:50. > :07:53.election, that tells you something about where it has gone, the central
:07:54. > :08:00.ground and American politics. There are huge divisions. It is not an
:08:01. > :08:04.American phenomenon, you have got Corbyn and Brexit here. We are in an
:08:05. > :08:08.age when political discourse among people who used to read the nation
:08:09. > :08:15.or the Christian science monitor is RIP, it doesn't exist. Look at
:08:16. > :08:21.weeks, we have got Ted Cruz who came closest. He was antiestablishment.
:08:22. > :08:25.He was hated by the Republican establishment in the United States.
:08:26. > :08:32.What is happening here is just totally fascinating, and may be
:08:33. > :08:37.worrisome. But you mentioned the coat brothers. Things move very fast
:08:38. > :08:41.those days. That looks like it is over with. Just remind people who
:08:42. > :08:48.they are? They own probably the second largest arrive at Lee held
:08:49. > :08:53.company in the United States. And it is huge, -- the second largest
:08:54. > :08:56.privately held company. It is into agricultural products and trading at
:08:57. > :09:03.oil and so on. They are small government people, aren't they?
:09:04. > :09:07.There was a quote, somebody quite close to them, saying that he would
:09:08. > :09:11.like a Federal government so small that you can drown it in a bath tub.
:09:12. > :09:15.They would like a government small with less interventions. They are
:09:16. > :09:21.very Conservative, that is interesting. Trump is actually not
:09:22. > :09:25.very Conservative. Those brothers and the Republican establishment is
:09:26. > :09:30.all about free trade. Trump is not about free trade. You have this real
:09:31. > :09:34.interest, that is why the Republican party is in despair. Because this
:09:35. > :09:38.candidate, Trump, if you were ever to get close to power, would be
:09:39. > :09:42.doing all kinds of things that they have never advocated. And just as
:09:43. > :09:46.you were suggesting that may be Democrat voters will hold the nose
:09:47. > :09:50.and vote for Hillary, Republican candidates will hold the nose and
:09:51. > :09:57.support Trump. I don't know, I'm not sure. Some will, but the party is
:09:58. > :10:01.completely torn apart by this. But that is also why Hillary needs
:10:02. > :10:04.Bernie's supporters. It is that layer of people who feel deeply
:10:05. > :10:09.disenfranchised, who, I mean, obviously there is a very small
:10:10. > :10:12.crossover between Bernie and Trump, but there are people who will stay
:10:13. > :10:19.home and don't vote if they don't fill represented. I think what
:10:20. > :10:23.Hillary has going for her is that the default position among many
:10:24. > :10:31.American voters will be not just opposition to Trump, but a mum. I
:10:32. > :10:35.mean, real or arm. -- alarm. And also women voters, which is
:10:36. > :10:42.interesting because he is not only a bully, he is a misogynist. No matter
:10:43. > :10:48.how women voters relate or not to a woman candidate. And it is a big
:10:49. > :10:52.thing. In other words, you know, it is a little less startling because
:10:53. > :10:59.it comes eight years after Obama being president. But the first
:11:00. > :11:05.woman... I mean, in her acceptance speech. I have been asking myself,
:11:06. > :11:11.why don't I feel this? Why don't I... This week we have seen 150th
:11:12. > :11:14.anniversary being marked of the founding of the suffragette
:11:15. > :11:18.movement, a big driving force in the British context for eventually vote
:11:19. > :11:24.for women and eventually women politicians. Ironically, an American
:11:25. > :11:29.woman, Nancy Aston was the first woman to take a seat in the House of
:11:30. > :11:33.Commons. That was more than 100 years ago now. Here we are in the
:11:34. > :11:39.American context, only in the mid-80s did we have a woman actually
:11:40. > :11:49.on the ticket at all. We had surely chisel. -- surely. But it feels, it
:11:50. > :11:54.feels very, very late. It feels, Wake up America, why has it taken so
:11:55. > :11:59.long? There is also the question, what are they planning to do to
:12:00. > :12:03.bring more women into politics? What are you planning to do to articulate
:12:04. > :12:10.the grievances of so many young women who want to go into politics?
:12:11. > :12:17.They prefer the grumpy old white man, the traditional candidate, to
:12:18. > :12:22.the woman, who has achieved so much. Gender in the end is just gender,
:12:23. > :12:26.I'm sorry to say it, I have good friends who were in the feminist
:12:27. > :12:30.struggles in America who feel this is really, really important. And of
:12:31. > :12:33.course, given the state of argument about reproductive rights in
:12:34. > :12:40.America, it is important. But actually I think it is because, as
:12:41. > :12:44.my daughter said, who is 20 and a strong feminist, I care about what
:12:45. > :12:49.is in her ears, -- what is between her ears. Is she a strong candidate?
:12:50. > :12:53.Look at what she has backed in the previous administration, the welfare
:12:54. > :12:56.cuts, the crime bill, those things are not good for women or anybody,
:12:57. > :13:04.and she represents that establishment, the corporate world.
:13:05. > :13:09.It has done very little for women. You said that America is behind the
:13:10. > :13:15.curve globally on this. We have justices on the Supreme Court, two
:13:16. > :13:17.women secretaries of State, Hillary Clinton and Madeline Albright. And a
:13:18. > :13:26.raft of women in senior positions in Congress. Condoleezza Rice, don't
:13:27. > :13:32.forget. On that basis, the presidency may have not until now
:13:33. > :13:37.been on within striking distance for women, but women's record in
:13:38. > :13:43.politics is pretty good. The few who have managed to get to the top have
:13:44. > :13:48.a good record. Why haven't they done their bit in promoting more women?
:13:49. > :13:52.The whole discussion about positive discrimination, mentoring women and
:13:53. > :13:54.so on, nobody is having these debates in American politics and
:13:55. > :13:59.they need to have it because that is how you're going to recruit more
:14:00. > :14:02.women for top political jobs. Only 20% of senators and members of
:14:03. > :14:07.Congress are women, this extremely low in comparison with most
:14:08. > :14:12.countries, Afghanistan has more women in Parliament. It sounds like
:14:13. > :14:17.you want to move to Afghanistan! Afghanistan, which is not a beacon
:14:18. > :14:21.of gender equality, has more women in political positions than the
:14:22. > :14:24.United States. There is something... In a parliamentary democracy, it is
:14:25. > :14:29.easier to get people to where you want them to get. Most women
:14:30. > :14:35.leaders, I suspect, have come through parliamentary systems as
:14:36. > :14:38.opposed to popular vote. There is so much bias and discrimination against
:14:39. > :14:44.women, normally you elect more women and have proportional representation
:14:45. > :14:48.-- on proportional representation than first past the post. That is
:14:49. > :14:53.why Hillary has been so careful, she suffered a lot of discrimination and
:14:54. > :14:56.flak while she was just the wife of a politician. She is extremely
:14:57. > :15:00.careful. There is this idea that an order for a woman to be seen as a
:15:01. > :15:05.credible politician, she also needs to be demure and feminine and bake
:15:06. > :15:11.cookies and be a good mother and where the heels at the end of the
:15:12. > :15:13.day. This is not possible. And it is absolutely horrendous expectations
:15:14. > :15:22.that people have about women in politics. Again, I'm not... I'm not
:15:23. > :15:26.trying to blow the trumpet for Hillary, but I think she will grow
:15:27. > :15:31.into this role now that she has got the nomination, and I think her
:15:32. > :15:34.acceptance speech was a kind of change of tone, change of
:15:35. > :15:39.confidence, and I think the mere fact that if she wins, of having a
:15:40. > :15:42.woman president, will be seen five or ten years from now as
:15:43. > :15:48.significant. Will it mean anything else in the rest of the world? Does
:15:49. > :15:52.breaking that glass ceiling in American politics... We will save a
:15:53. > :15:56.lot of money on building walls on the Mexican border! Is there any
:15:57. > :16:00.sense in which it will serve a valuable purpose internationally?
:16:01. > :16:05.Not on the scale of Obama, I don't think. But I guess I am the only one
:16:06. > :16:09.who is not deeply sceptical. But having followed her career, she will
:16:10. > :16:16.be a competent, if she is elected, she will be a competent and I think
:16:17. > :16:19.good president. It has been the UK's female politicians this week who
:16:20. > :16:23.have made the biggest impact on the referendum campaign. Five of them,
:16:24. > :16:26.including the Scottish First Minister, lined up along with Forest
:16:27. > :16:33.Johnson for the big televised debate between those who follow Mr Johnson
:16:34. > :16:37.and those who follow the Prime Minister's read. The debate was
:16:38. > :16:42.lively, with a fellow Tory accusing the ex-mayor of being motivated by
:16:43. > :16:47.his ambition to become PM, and much talk of Boris's big whopper. What
:16:48. > :16:50.did you make of this debate, was there a sense that finally the
:16:51. > :16:56.campaign is coming alive? I don't know. I found it really depressing,
:16:57. > :16:59.actually. Well, just on the question of women and Boris, I don't know if
:17:00. > :17:03.you noticed, but when there was a question about the effect on women's
:17:04. > :17:07.rights of leaving the EU, Boris was unable to address the question of
:17:08. > :17:11.women and women's rights at all, he talked about several other things.
:17:12. > :17:16.The white to be fair, there were two other women from the league
:17:17. > :17:21.campaign. But that was the question, come on, Boris! -- the league
:17:22. > :17:24.campaign. There are all these facts and pseudo- facts and plain lies
:17:25. > :17:27.being banded around, and I think none of this is very much touching
:17:28. > :17:32.what is actually going to make people vote one way or the other,
:17:33. > :17:36.and I think the strength of that leave slogan, take back control,
:17:37. > :17:40.really tells you what is going on here. This is about people feeling
:17:41. > :17:50.disenfranchised, out of control in their lives, for reasons which
:17:51. > :17:52.actually have nothing to do with the EU. And this referendum, which I'm
:17:53. > :17:55.sure David Cameron is bitterly regretting ever having let out of,
:17:56. > :17:57.opened Pandora's box. It is becoming the place where people are
:17:58. > :18:01.expressing that. It is not about that. I'm beginning to really worry
:18:02. > :18:05.that we are going to leave. We sitting around here, members of the
:18:06. > :18:10.chattering classes in London, we are here to chat, and we all want to
:18:11. > :18:15.remain. But for a lot of people out there... I don't have a view! Let me
:18:16. > :18:22.pick you up on that point. You said, it is nothing to do with the EU, but
:18:23. > :18:25.the question on immigration is. As the leave campaign said, if you
:18:26. > :18:33.can't close the door on immigration to the EU, you can't control... They
:18:34. > :18:37.keep saying, we will be Switzerland, assuming, and there is a very
:18:38. > :18:42.powerful argument in the German newspaper this morning from the
:18:43. > :18:47.German government that if the Brexiteers win and Britain comes
:18:48. > :18:53.back and says, OK, April fool, we want the same rules, can you give us
:18:54. > :18:59.the deal that we want, that will not happen. The fact is, if they want
:19:00. > :19:05.any access of note... You are saying the condition is that you have to
:19:06. > :19:11.have free movement. Well, of course. The world we live in, you just can
:19:12. > :19:16.no longer be isolated. If you are, you are isolated at your peril.
:19:17. > :19:20.There is also the other problem. Immigration is an extremely
:19:21. > :19:24.difficult issue. No government in the world has been able to control
:19:25. > :19:30.immigration. This is the big Lie that is going out there, half of
:19:31. > :19:35.migrants... Half of the migrants coming to Britain in last year have
:19:36. > :19:39.been non-EU migrants. Our British people worried about those as well?
:19:40. > :19:43.I think essentially the point has been that leaving the European
:19:44. > :19:47.Union, and if what you want in the end is access to the single market,
:19:48. > :19:52.I'm afraid you are going to have those EU migrants, pesky EU
:19:53. > :19:57.migrants, coming to live in Britain, there is no other way around it. Had
:19:58. > :20:01.you been at all inspired by the argument of the remain campaign? You
:20:02. > :20:07.are saying that you are Remainers. Have they risen to the challenge?
:20:08. > :20:14.There is an argument that I suspect many of us are partial to, which
:20:15. > :20:18.they can never make. Which is that, there is something good about
:20:19. > :20:21.unification, there is something good about countries working together in
:20:22. > :20:28.concert to do things together. And one of the things that people like
:20:29. > :20:32.about the UK now, in particular London perhaps, is that you actually
:20:33. > :20:39.do feel like a part of Europe. You know, but that, they cannot, they
:20:40. > :20:43.literally cannot make that argument. I feel very, very disappointed with
:20:44. > :20:46.the Labour Party here. But I also understand, I really understand, it
:20:47. > :20:50.is very difficult to argue for the EU at the moment. I'm not a fan of
:20:51. > :20:55.the EU in so many ways, look at what it has done to Greece and Portugal,
:20:56. > :20:58.Howard has failed to deal with the refugee crisis, it is not working
:20:59. > :21:08.well at all -- how it has failed to deal. It is hard to say, I really
:21:09. > :21:11.want to be part of this thing. I feel like it would be worse to
:21:12. > :21:13.leave, we needed as a defence against rollbacks of workers'
:21:14. > :21:15.rights, we need that social chapter. And you don't know why the Labour
:21:16. > :21:19.Party has not been making that argument? They are understandably
:21:20. > :21:25.torn about the EU. Because the voters are torn about it, and two
:21:26. > :21:30.the MPs. The leadership is in a real dilemma. Labour is divided on two
:21:31. > :21:33.grounds. There is the economic argument, the EU innocence, if you
:21:34. > :21:39.look at what has happened in Greece and Portugal and so on, -- in a
:21:40. > :21:47.sense. Austerity has not worked, millions of people are unemployed.
:21:48. > :21:49.It is not the kind of Europe that the European left once. Labour
:21:50. > :21:52.cannot make that case. On the other hand, the question of immigration.
:21:53. > :21:56.The other thing that you can sell the European Union is because of the
:21:57. > :22:01.project. But Labour voters do not want more immigration. And so they
:22:02. > :22:06.cannot defend Europe on the basis of the cosmopolitan project. They are
:22:07. > :22:10.saying, we are going to control immigration. But this is not what
:22:11. > :22:20.the voters want, but many Labour MPs are with them. The two about this.
:22:21. > :22:23.This is not just an election -- two tragedies. It has not been all of
:22:24. > :22:30.these things that we have been talked about our true. I don't know
:22:31. > :22:36.whether you remember in 1970s movie called Network in which this guy has
:22:37. > :22:40.been fired, he calls on viewers all over America to open the window and
:22:41. > :22:44.say, I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to stand for it any more. That
:22:45. > :22:50.both for people whose bought from in the US and for a lot of wrecks it
:22:51. > :22:58.hears, this is a way to punch the establishment in the nose, which is
:22:59. > :23:04.fine. -- Brexiteers. 40, 50, 60 years of economic growth and lots of
:23:05. > :23:06.other things that Britain... I mentioned in the introduction to
:23:07. > :23:11.this section that the future of the UK itself would be put on the table.
:23:12. > :23:15.We have this remarkable joint appearance by a Conservative former
:23:16. > :23:19.Prime Minister, Sir John Major, and a Labour former Prime Minister, Tony
:23:20. > :23:22.Blair, the two men who were the British architects of the peace
:23:23. > :23:26.agreement in Northern Ireland, saying that this could be endangered
:23:27. > :23:30.by Brexit. We had this discussion about whether the UK voted to leave
:23:31. > :23:33.the EU in 12 days' time, then Scotland would hold a second
:23:34. > :23:40.referendum because it doesn't want as they are in the UK if it is not
:23:41. > :23:43.an EU. -- doesn't want to stay. The stakes are being raised quite
:23:44. > :23:48.dramatically by those who you would think would not want to risk raising
:23:49. > :23:53.those prospects. If you think of Northern Ireland, the border now, it
:23:54. > :23:58.is a release valve for nationalist sentiment in the north. Because you
:23:59. > :24:03.can go back and forth. So you can imagine you are in a single country.
:24:04. > :24:09.You can literally go back and forth with these. If that becomes an
:24:10. > :24:12.actual border... The Irish president has been campaigning here in the
:24:13. > :24:16.United Kingdom, the Irish politicians have been campaigning
:24:17. > :24:20.for Remain because of that problem. The bigger fear is that a Brexit
:24:21. > :24:23.vote could hasten the disintegration of Europe itself. What we are
:24:24. > :24:28.looking out at the moment is a lot of nationalism and xenophobia in
:24:29. > :24:34.Europe. It is not going to be a break-up that will be nice. The
:24:35. > :24:39.other countries that would follow suit's I am thinking about states
:24:40. > :24:44.that are happy to take funds are not happy to take part in projects like
:24:45. > :24:50.the refugee crisis, Hungary and Poland. They are not very keen on
:24:51. > :24:57.hosting other citizens in their own countries. Also the whole atmosphere
:24:58. > :25:03.of this campaign will encourage people like Marine Le Pen and the
:25:04. > :25:06.far right parties all over Europe. There is talk of Marine Le Pen
:25:07. > :25:12.coming to Britain to campaign at some point at the end of this
:25:13. > :25:17.campaign. Another thing worth saying is that, let's say that the vote is
:25:18. > :25:24.to remain, all the problems still remain. All the problems that we
:25:25. > :25:31.have everywhere don't go away. This won't clear the air? No, certainly
:25:32. > :25:36.not inside the Tory Party. It is not the most able option. Immigration
:25:37. > :25:41.will remain a problem -- stable option. Even if they leave it will
:25:42. > :25:44.be a problem. Even Boris has said they are not going to deport all
:25:45. > :25:49.these people. You're not going to wake up the next morning and find it
:25:50. > :26:00.is 1950s England again! This is another thing that I don't get. Take
:26:01. > :26:06.back control! Is this the glorious 70s when 90% of the country went to
:26:07. > :26:13.University or where 10% of the country had passports? Or is it the
:26:14. > :26:17.1960s... Are you saying that is the consequence of being in the EU? That
:26:18. > :26:21.more people are going to university now than before? No, what I am
:26:22. > :26:27.saying is, what do you want to go back to, where is the Disneyland
:26:28. > :26:31.where it ends. There is a right wing and a left-wing fantasy. I was
:26:32. > :26:35.speaking to an elderly lady who was saying, we used to have jobs here,
:26:36. > :26:40.and she thought, she was 90, she thought that we were going to go
:26:41. > :26:45.back to that. We have to get out as well, I am sorry to say. Thank you
:26:46. > :26:49.all for being with us for another addition of Dateline London. That is
:26:50. > :26:55.it for this week. We are back at the same time next week. You can of
:26:56. > :26:56.course comment on the programme on Twitter on hashtag BBC dateline.
:26:57. > :27:24.Goodbye. Hello there. We got away with it in
:27:25. > :27:28.London earlier on for Trooping the Colour and the big fly past. In the
:27:29. > :27:30.last we had a thunderstorm south of