:00:25. > :00:31.Hello and welcome to Dateline, I'm Jane Hill.
:00:32. > :00:37.A warm welcome at a difficult week for many.
:00:38. > :00:40.This week - the aftermath of the Manchester suicide
:00:41. > :00:43.President Trump's first overseas trip, and we look at the state
:00:44. > :00:46.of the general election camapaign here in the UK with less than two
:00:47. > :00:51.Joining me to discuss all this are Iain Martin, a Times columnist,
:00:52. > :00:52.the American broadcaster, Jeffrey Kofman, Thomas Kielinger
:00:53. > :00:59.of Die Welt, and Nisreen Malik, the Sudanese writer.
:01:00. > :01:05.A one welcome to all of you. In Manchester...
:01:06. > :01:07.In Manchester on Monday night a pop concert by an American singer
:01:08. > :01:11.popular with young girls ended in carnage when a 22-year-old man
:01:12. > :01:15.born in the city blew himself up, in the foyer of the concert arena.
:01:16. > :01:17.Children as young as eight were killed, and scores
:01:18. > :01:24.The hunt is continuing for the people who supported Salman Abedi -
:01:25. > :01:27.many people have been arrested in the UK and, in Libya, Abedi's
:01:28. > :01:36.father and one of his brothers have been arrested.
:01:37. > :01:39.Let's talk about the Libyan connection.
:01:40. > :01:42.Nisreen, may I start with you, how was this Abedi radicalised?
:01:43. > :01:49.How a young man can become radicalised. Talk to us about the
:01:50. > :01:54.Libyan connection. Details of which are becoming clearer. The most
:01:55. > :01:58.important thing to point out is it's not one thing or the other. It is
:01:59. > :02:04.tempting for people to try and figure out what is the one hell of
:02:05. > :02:09.an -- element that radicalised him. The Libyan angle is informative. It
:02:10. > :02:14.tells you and exposes a family in flux, a family that has not found a
:02:15. > :02:20.stable footing either in Libya or in Manchester. His father was an exile,
:02:21. > :02:27.a political exile, in opposition to Colonel Gadaffi. As everyone knows,
:02:28. > :02:30.he has maltreated and resulted in hundreds of thousands if not
:02:31. > :02:33.millions of Libyans leaving the country during his tenure. The fact
:02:34. > :02:37.they were here in the first place is a reflection of the fact that there
:02:38. > :02:44.was a dictator presiding over the population in Libya. Number one. The
:02:45. > :02:47.angle that concerns and oppressive dictatorial environment in the Arab
:02:48. > :02:52.world and larger parts of the Middle East is a very important one and
:02:53. > :02:55.understanding the roots of Islamic disaffection or fundamentalism. Here
:02:56. > :03:02.in the first place because of Libya. He returned, who his father and they
:03:03. > :03:05.themselves returns to fight with the militias that fought against Colonel
:03:06. > :03:08.Gadaffi after the spring and then they made it back. They were back
:03:09. > :03:16.and forth between Manchester and Libya. It shows this was a family
:03:17. > :03:21.little bit torn, Salman Abedi spent a couple of years there and came
:03:22. > :03:24.back and there was a stigma around him and his siblings and that Libyan
:03:25. > :03:28.community in Manchester in the sense they were considered cultural
:03:29. > :03:34.half-breed, not really Libyan and not really British. That is the
:03:35. > :03:41.context he thrived in, if that makes sense. In terms of his ideological
:03:42. > :03:45.radicalisation. A final point, very interesting that no one has picked
:03:46. > :03:48.out, when they were arrested in Libya, his father and brother, they
:03:49. > :03:55.were not picked up by an official police force, Libya is an state in
:03:56. > :03:59.anarchy, they were picked up by a local militia. They do not have an
:04:00. > :04:02.official intelligence system that can quite knit with the British and
:04:03. > :04:12.Americans in order to pick up these people. That is the firmament within
:04:13. > :04:18.which the Abedi family grew. That is the context as we understand it.
:04:19. > :04:23.Surprising that you said Libya is a failed state. Yes, it is. There was
:04:24. > :04:28.a militia force that could apprehend him. They have contacts with foreign
:04:29. > :04:33.intelligence, what have you. It is astonishing to me that in this
:04:34. > :04:38.country which falls apart before I write every day, that there is some
:04:39. > :04:43.order, police and militia, that can say on foreign instigation get hold
:04:44. > :04:47.of these to my people. We need them in our investigation of the
:04:48. > :04:52.Manchester bombing. There is a development that you have two more
:04:53. > :04:56.witnesses. It is being said that, you spoke of the disenfranchisement,
:04:57. > :05:01.we hear the story of the father helping to radicalise his son, even
:05:02. > :05:05.though he publicly denied it having happened. They must have been some
:05:06. > :05:12.family connection from the days when he fought Colonel Gadaffi. Implanted
:05:13. > :05:17.the simple idea in his son's mind. This is a father who took his son on
:05:18. > :05:22.during a school holiday to take part in the Libyan civil war. Understand
:05:23. > :05:26.that it is complex. A lot of people will see it in really quite simple
:05:27. > :05:34.terms. This is a family that was given shelter by Britain, refugee
:05:35. > :05:39.status, welcomed, his education was obviously paid for by the British
:05:40. > :05:41.taxpayer. A family that then decides to shuttle backwards and forwards
:05:42. > :05:49.between the Libyan Civil War and Manchester. If other that then
:05:50. > :05:53.leaves two boys who are clearly a risk and no by the family to be a
:05:54. > :06:04.risk, and leaves them at home alone. At home alone. I think people's at
:06:05. > :06:08.reaction to it will be to accept that there is complexity but that
:06:09. > :06:13.something has happened here which will shock a lot of British people
:06:14. > :06:19.and people will feel that hospitality has been abused. I think
:06:20. > :06:24.it is fair to come to that conclusion. I covered the Arab
:06:25. > :06:27.Spring in Libya in 2011 and it would be wrong to assume the people who
:06:28. > :06:31.went back to fight with the rebels were extremists. A lot of them were
:06:32. > :06:35.in fact liberals from Europe and elsewhere who wanted to liberate the
:06:36. > :06:40.country from an oppressive dictator. I do not think that adds up. I do
:06:41. > :06:44.think that this notion of a failed state is coming back to bite us
:06:45. > :06:50.terribly. The consequence of the Arab Spring, with but optimism, has
:06:51. > :06:55.been abject failure and the country as you know, there is no central
:06:56. > :07:00.Government. You look at this place, it has a map, it has the late Mike
:07:01. > :07:04.is a country on the map, it has an ambassador at the United Nations,
:07:05. > :07:08.but beyond that... Where is the responsibility for that? It is
:07:09. > :07:12.interesting. It is tempting to blame Nato and David Cameron for that
:07:13. > :07:15.campaign. I was in Libya during that period. We really believed we were
:07:16. > :07:24.on the cusp of a massacre by Colonel Gadaffi. I have to say, in the naval
:07:25. > :07:28.campaign that allowed the rebels to ultimately triumph, it seemed at the
:07:29. > :07:33.time, in fairness, to have been a sensible one. We were going to seem
:07:34. > :07:37.another Rwanda. If something had happened. I think it was a fair
:07:38. > :07:42.assumption to think that. The problem was that there was no after
:07:43. > :07:46.plan that was effective. Yes, the rebels took hold in the country
:07:47. > :07:52.literally had no infrastructure, that was run by mafias. Regional
:07:53. > :07:57.militias. Here's we are. The problem is vacuumed. There are several
:07:58. > :08:01.publicans. What he is trying to say is there, when there is a vacuum of
:08:02. > :08:07.authority, whether it is Iraq after the war or in Libya after Colonel
:08:08. > :08:11.Gadaffi collapses, or in Yemen now with the conflict with the Saudis,
:08:12. > :08:14.was there is a vacuum of authority, you have the potential to get all
:08:15. > :08:18.these fragments would align themselves with Al-Qaeda or Isis,
:08:19. > :08:25.and that is the soil in which all of it grows. And Isis has moved on. In
:08:26. > :08:29.terms of criticising the West, it cannot always be the West's fault.
:08:30. > :08:33.We are accused of some circumstances of intervening too much and in
:08:34. > :08:37.others not intervening at all. We could be discussing this for a long
:08:38. > :08:38.time. Let's turn our attention is to President Trump.
:08:39. > :08:40.President Trump carried out his first major
:08:41. > :08:44.overseas trip this week - visiting the Middle East,
:08:45. > :08:47.the Vatican, the Nato summit in Brussels and as we go to air,
:08:48. > :08:51.Contrary to expectations, it appears to be a case,
:08:52. > :09:06.A little smile on your face as I said all of that. I would take issue
:09:07. > :09:09.with that. If you are a fox watching a little smile on your face as I
:09:10. > :09:12.said all of that. I would take issue with that. If you are a fox watching
:09:13. > :09:15.person, you are a fox watching person, you might think that. In
:09:16. > :09:22.this reality TV episode of Donald Trump goes to Europe and the Middle
:09:23. > :09:28.East, we have watched two Trumps. There was the Trump who was banquet
:09:29. > :09:32.it and lavished on Saudi Arabia. He seemed at home and indeed himself
:09:33. > :09:36.and avoided the issue of Human Rights in a country whose values are
:09:37. > :09:40.contrary to America, never touched those issues, not even a nod. Ghost
:09:41. > :09:47.is real, welcomed with literally a bear hug. -- goes to Israel. Then he
:09:48. > :09:54.comes to Europe, the closest friends America has, the G7, and scold them.
:09:55. > :09:59.You see this contradiction. He is the friendly guy in those countries
:10:00. > :10:02.and he ugly American here. I do not think... It is true that has not
:10:03. > :10:11.been a massive blunder, there are lots of great memes pen pushing the
:10:12. > :10:17.president of Macedonia... And his own wife at one stage. Think it was
:10:18. > :10:23.Montenegro. Great to watch his wife slapping. It is just another
:10:24. > :10:27.instalment in the Trump reality show. He has yet again demonstrated,
:10:28. > :10:32.telling the Israelis that he is back from the middle East, that he has no
:10:33. > :10:36.depth whatsoever. He is who we think he is. Who had depth about the
:10:37. > :10:41.Middle East, I ask you? Nobody had any recipe on how to solve it. He
:10:42. > :10:44.comes and makes easy statements which have no consequence. Unlike
:10:45. > :10:49.you, I would be prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt. We have
:10:50. > :10:55.all critique ten in a fashion. He is a work in progress. I think he is a
:10:56. > :10:58.work in progress. He is learning. He made a good speech after the
:10:59. > :11:02.Manchester bombing when he referred to these jihadists as losers. That
:11:03. > :11:09.was a felicitous phrase to make. That is part and parcel... Lots of
:11:10. > :11:12.people said the word loser, that is not presidential, you cannot use the
:11:13. > :11:16.word when you are at the US president. It shows he is an
:11:17. > :11:23.effective community. I am not a fan of Trump, I and distressed by his
:11:24. > :11:27.existence, however I would same that the trip went really quite well. You
:11:28. > :11:31.notice that he didn't have data roaming on his phone, so there were
:11:32. > :11:38.almost no tweets. There were no tweets. Is is the key to it? It was
:11:39. > :11:45.almost like a work in progress. As though someone around him is
:11:46. > :11:48.concerned about what is going on in Washington, Jared Kushner and all
:11:49. > :11:51.the rest of it, trying to normalise it and manage this trip in a
:11:52. > :11:57.conventional way and it kind of worked. He tried to behave himself,
:11:58. > :12:02.because that was the Jared Kushner elephant in the room. He didn't want
:12:03. > :12:09.to add to his problems by making gaffes. I think we are suffering
:12:10. > :12:12.from a collective lowering of standards were Donald Trump. With
:12:13. > :12:16.the fact that he didn't smear himself on a daily basis doesn't
:12:17. > :12:20.mean that the Trump went well. He had enough antlers and was out of
:12:21. > :12:23.place that he couldn't behave in a disgraceful way. These trips are
:12:24. > :12:28.hugely well coordinated, hundreds of handlers on the Saudi state, if you
:12:29. > :12:35.watch the footage. This was closely managed. He made blunders on body
:12:36. > :12:40.language, he strayed off script couple of times on a couple of
:12:41. > :12:45.speeches. He calls it dictators and scold the democratically elected
:12:46. > :12:51.leaders. -- cosied up to dictators. I think there is a dangerous trend.
:12:52. > :12:55.People expect him to behave scandalously and terrifically the
:12:56. > :12:58.whole time. When there is a day when he is micromanaged so well that he
:12:59. > :13:01.cannot put a foot out of place, people draw these conclusions and
:13:02. > :13:07.say they think he has a work in progress. He has learned lessons.
:13:08. > :13:11.This is a man who tells us he is a good deal maker. We know that deals
:13:12. > :13:15.are about relationships and the ability to say, hello, Angela
:13:16. > :13:18.Merkel, let's do something here. When you see the European leaders
:13:19. > :13:22.and the Canadian leaders avoiding him, they are holding their noses,
:13:23. > :13:27.grinding their teeth, you can see it. Are we offended sitting here in
:13:28. > :13:30.London because he is more interested in speaking to the Saudis and
:13:31. > :13:35.European people? He is following the American agenda, he was to create
:13:36. > :13:39.more jobs. He doesn't talk about human race in Saudi Arabia, we can
:13:40. > :13:42.critique that, but in the eyes of some he did and said the right
:13:43. > :13:47.thing. Talking of lowering of standards, we must be grateful for
:13:48. > :13:55.small mercies. If there are some things where we hope he can welcome
:13:56. > :13:58.fix McLaren, that is good. That was an interesting pivot on foreign
:13:59. > :14:04.policy towards Saudi and the Gulf states. It is a piece of positioning
:14:05. > :14:07.the Gulf states have looked for for the past ten years. They hated the
:14:08. > :14:13.Obama years and he was essentially siding with them against Iran. You
:14:14. > :14:17.can argue whether that is right or wrong but it is due politically a
:14:18. > :14:25.very significant moment. A really serious move. As was the criticism
:14:26. > :14:30.of Nato allies who are not doing their job. Justified. One of the
:14:31. > :14:34.things you talk about when you'd save learning on the job, he pulled
:14:35. > :14:37.back a little on his opposition to the climate accord and that is, I
:14:38. > :14:41.suppose, when you talk about lowering the standard, he finally
:14:42. > :14:46.understand that maybe climate change is real. We also have short-term
:14:47. > :14:51.memory loss. Over the past three months, family Thames has Trump done
:14:52. > :14:55.something and people say, oh, I think he has got on. Now he is
:14:56. > :15:02.presidential. Every time after that he disappoints. It is early days.
:15:03. > :15:07.With him it is this immaculate sense of an easier. It is always early
:15:08. > :15:10.days. What you said earlier is important, let's see what happens
:15:11. > :15:15.when he returns to Washington. He has serious problems when he returns
:15:16. > :15:16.to Washington. Let's return to that another week.
:15:17. > :15:20.There was a pause in the general election campaign here in the UK,
:15:21. > :15:21.in the wake of the Manchester attack.
:15:22. > :15:32.is resuming, with less than two weeks to polling day.
:15:33. > :15:35.Iain, opinion polls, there's always a caveat
:15:36. > :15:44.but it's striking that the polls narrowed significantly.
:15:45. > :15:49.Every time this happens the British say they will not trust opinion
:15:50. > :15:52.polls and everyone gets massively overexcited. Opinion polls are very
:15:53. > :15:58.good at what is happening with broad trends
:15:59. > :16:02.and the trend is really clear. That is that the Conservatives went into
:16:03. > :16:07.this campaign with a league of somewhere around 20 points -- lead.
:16:08. > :16:10.And they were heading for a massive landslide. Labour has run a better
:16:11. > :16:16.campaign than anticipated, it has been fleet of food. Theresa May has
:16:17. > :16:22.won a very bad campaign, including a declaration called the dementia
:16:23. > :16:25.attacks which has worried a lot of core Conservative voters. Our
:16:26. > :16:30.manifesto backfired and that lead has narrowed according to the poll
:16:31. > :16:38.on this week's Times by you got, to only five points. -- YouGov. That
:16:39. > :16:43.narrowing is being fuelled by a lot of young voters, this is what the
:16:44. > :16:46.Conservatives are relying on. Young voters are flocking to Corbin on the
:16:47. > :16:50.basis you want to make university education free and renationalise the
:16:51. > :16:55.railways and produce a magic money tree and get money away. And
:16:56. > :16:58.domestic pointers that people have welcomed. That it does resonate
:16:59. > :17:02.with. What we know from collections is that young voters very often get
:17:03. > :17:07.very excited and indulged turnout in the same way. Make not even be
:17:08. > :17:16.registered. The Tory lead among older voters is much higher. It
:17:17. > :17:21.remains strong. But not as strong as it was because Theresa May chose
:17:22. > :17:25.this audacious strategy of declaring war on her own voters, pushing into
:17:26. > :17:31.labour territory, showing they could punish wealthier footers, take on
:17:32. > :17:36.their own based on a attempt to get that majority. Thinking the majority
:17:37. > :17:41.is going to be fantastic. We will find out in two weeks' time. You get
:17:42. > :17:44.the sense that it almost anybody but Jeremy Corbyn could win this
:17:45. > :17:49.election for the Labour Party. Precisely. If Labour had a leader
:17:50. > :17:54.who was not a supporter or sympathiser with the IRA and had
:17:55. > :17:58.such strange views on foreign policy, then I think Labour would
:17:59. > :18:02.really be in with a shout. Just to be wind you, we had almost 4 million
:18:03. > :18:10.UK voters in today's and 15. That is a strong card for her. -- Ukip. They
:18:11. > :18:13.will do not become into her camp which would dampen the hope for
:18:14. > :18:19.Labour to come out on top. I agree with you. My problem as I report on
:18:20. > :18:25.this to my home audience is there is a question after another standing
:18:26. > :18:31.behind the brand GB. Brexit is one. This onslaught and terrorist attack
:18:32. > :18:34.in Manchester is another. How will the leader of this country, Theresa
:18:35. > :18:39.May, cope with the uncertainty of the future? Will she stand tall in
:18:40. > :18:42.this moment of crisis, that she is the one to trust in the leadership
:18:43. > :18:48.when there is an emergency like this. Like Manchester. Will she be
:18:49. > :18:51.the one with all the troubles and recent experience to stand tall
:18:52. > :18:56.vis-a-vis the Europeans? The uncertainty of the British future in
:18:57. > :19:00.the long term makes it very difficult to predict how this all
:19:01. > :19:03.will pan out. Something very strange has happened in the campaign. She
:19:04. > :19:10.went into the campaign branding herself as strong and stable and
:19:11. > :19:15.voters loved that and she was hugely popular but it was a mile wide and
:19:16. > :19:19.an inch deep. Because of the Smith steps, that strength has turned into
:19:20. > :19:26.a lot of voters wondering if she is mean and brittle. I think that is
:19:27. > :19:34.actually the most important point, that this shift has been more about
:19:35. > :19:38.the dementia attacks but the public perception of Theresa May and Jeremy
:19:39. > :19:42.Cobham, actually, if that she has come across as very strong and and
:19:43. > :19:47.capable and has conducted a very closely managed campaign. She is
:19:48. > :19:54.never a court of the cup or doing something spontaneous -- off the
:19:55. > :20:02.cuff. She is not good in those situations, great at PMQ 's then she
:20:03. > :20:06.is rehearsed. But she has come across as brittle and hollow when
:20:07. > :20:12.unrehearsed. There is a complaint that she is not meeting real voters,
:20:13. > :20:15.however you define that. Not talking to journalists and not getting
:20:16. > :20:20.spontaneous interviews. I think in the interviews she has given, even
:20:21. > :20:24.closely managed once in BBC studios, she has come across as brittle,
:20:25. > :20:28.hollow and incompetent, I think. Did not give across this strong and
:20:29. > :20:35.stable vibe. Jeremy Corbyn, last-minute rally over the past
:20:36. > :20:38.couple of weeks, and with those BBC interviews with the heads of
:20:39. > :20:41.parties, he came across as authentic and comfortable in his own skin.
:20:42. > :20:46.These things make a huge difference in the last ten days before an
:20:47. > :20:50.election. Despite Jeremy Corbyn being himself, he is speaking to the
:20:51. > :20:55.hardship people are enduring. People are looking for someone to use that
:20:56. > :21:00.hardship, whether it is access to universities for students. The
:21:01. > :21:07.changes the Tories made have closed off options for a lot of people and
:21:08. > :21:09.Jeremy Corbyn is resonating. It is incredible to watch these three
:21:10. > :21:18.leaders also flawed in different ways as people agonise over how to
:21:19. > :21:22.choose. There are also these public swings of mood that happen. We had a
:21:23. > :21:26.swing towards right-wing surprising elections, for Brexit and Donald
:21:27. > :21:31.Trump, but there might be a swing back towards the harsher more
:21:32. > :21:38.isolationist view of the world. They want to be careful not to run too
:21:39. > :21:44.far ahead of myself. When the chips are down, despite the domestic
:21:45. > :21:48.problems she has clearly, the country will still need strong and
:21:49. > :21:52.stable leadership vis-a-vis the Europeans and strong and stable
:21:53. > :21:56.leadership to cope with the terrorism threat in your midst.
:21:57. > :22:01.Despite her domestic warblings, and I think on the 8th of June, the
:22:02. > :22:05.debate we are having will be immaterial to the question that
:22:06. > :22:08.people in the election booth will ask themselves. Who is going to be
:22:09. > :22:20.the leader in those troubling times we are heading into? It is a binary
:22:21. > :22:24.choice. The question is if she comes off more strong and stable than
:22:25. > :22:28.Jeremy Corbyn. There are only two Mac options and a lot of voters do
:22:29. > :22:35.not engage into the last 48 or 72 hours. At the start of the campaign,
:22:36. > :22:39.it was all about Brexit. A few of us sat here a few weeks ago saying this
:22:40. > :22:45.was a boring election campaign. It was all about Brexit. Does the death
:22:46. > :22:48.of 22 change that? Not wishing to politicise that horror but does that
:22:49. > :22:52.change it question what does that not traditionally played to ever is
:22:53. > :22:58.in number ten at the time? That is Theresa May's leadership, to
:22:59. > :23:03.confront the ills we are dealing with. I'm not sure she has
:23:04. > :23:09.demonstrated raising the terror level that she has a solution. Not
:23:10. > :23:13.sure anybody has a solution. I am not sure how a response has made
:23:14. > :23:17.people feel more confident. Difficult to judge that because it
:23:18. > :23:22.is early. Come the 8th of June, she will have tried to make herself
:23:23. > :23:25.appear to be in charge, as it were, and bring the country forward and
:23:26. > :23:29.contain the threat. Whether she succeeds or not but she would use
:23:30. > :23:34.that argument that she is the one in the leadership position. And trust
:23:35. > :23:41.me. I will not make reductions around this table. Not again! Not
:23:42. > :23:47.after Hillary Clinton. But it is hard to imagine. It just me we're
:23:48. > :23:50.talking about how big plurality or majority is, not a question of if
:23:51. > :23:57.she is quick to win but by how much. That is a prediction! OK, what is
:23:58. > :24:00.the impact of that? She went into this expecting very big things in
:24:01. > :24:06.that regard, what if it is diminished? A huge amount of an ease
:24:07. > :24:09.in the Tory trade and among Tory MPs and ministers about what is
:24:10. > :24:14.happening. If after all of this the majority end up being not much more
:24:15. > :24:21.than she had at the moment, what was the point? What was it all for? It
:24:22. > :24:27.gives her a mandate to move forward. It is quite convenient. It does, but
:24:28. > :24:31.a month ago the Conservative Party was convinced it was good to have a
:24:32. > :24:35.majority of maybe even 150, if it comes back something like 20 or 25
:24:36. > :24:39.and labour are seen to have won the election campaign, there will be the
:24:40. > :24:44.most extraordinary Tory punch-up. There is concern in Brussels about a
:24:45. > :24:47.Prime Minister not being as strong as she made herself out to be. What
:24:48. > :24:52.kind of leader is she going to be? Is she going to be as strong as
:24:53. > :24:54.Brussels is hoping to have? Strong and stable leadership they are
:24:55. > :24:58.hoping to have to negotiate these issues coming up. There are not
:24:59. > :25:04.interested in seeing her diminished like she appears to be at the
:25:05. > :25:07.moment. No, but I think everybody has a lot to be nervous about
:25:08. > :25:11.because we have seen things shift very dramatically over the past six
:25:12. > :25:17.days, not even one week. 12 days long time in politics. It is a long
:25:18. > :25:21.time these days in particular. With the unfortunate bombings in
:25:22. > :25:26.Manchester, with her falling apart, with increasing media scrutiny, 12
:25:27. > :25:28.days is a long time. We will be discussing that two weeks from now.
:25:29. > :25:31.Thank you so much to all of you. Please do join me again next week,
:25:32. > :25:36.same time same place. Thanks very much for watching,
:25:37. > :26:06.goodbye for now. Hello there. There is going to be
:26:07. > :26:10.some very warm sunshine this weekend with a heat and humidity has already
:26:11. > :26:15.given rise to a number of thunderstorms. This was first thing
:26:16. > :26:16.this morning in Southampton. Those storms have moved away and