:00:25. > :00:29.Thursday was supposed to be May's Day in the British Prime Minister's
:00:30. > :00:31.plan to strengthen her hand by holding and winning
:00:32. > :00:34.Instead, she was left calling out "mayday" to a party
:00:35. > :00:36.in Northern Ireland, asking it to keep her
:00:37. > :00:38.Conservative Party in power, after her parliamentary majority
:00:39. > :00:42.As for Jeremy Corbyn, the previously beleaguered leader
:00:43. > :00:44.of the Labour Party, he lost the election but won
:00:45. > :00:47.plaudits for his campaign and inspired a new generation
:00:48. > :00:51.With me to discuss where this leaves British politics,
:00:52. > :00:54.and the imminent negotiations to get out of Europe, are the biographer
:00:55. > :00:56.and long-standing contributor to Germany's Die Welt newspaper,
:00:57. > :00:59.Thomas Kielinger, from Ireland, the writer and broadcaster
:01:00. > :01:03.Brian O'Connell, Janet Daley, columnist with Britain's Sunday
:01:04. > :01:06.Telegraph newspaper, and Owen Jones, columnist with The Guardian
:01:07. > :01:17.Welcome to you all. Janet Daley, where did it go wrong? It was the
:01:18. > :01:23.worst campaign that I have ever seen, having lived in this country
:01:24. > :01:27.for 50 years. Absolutely appalling. The more interesting phenomenon,
:01:28. > :01:32.because that one has been discussed endlessly, is the consequences for
:01:33. > :01:36.the Labour Party, which at least three quarters of its MPs detest
:01:37. > :01:40.Jeremy Corbyn or his policies at any rate and are stuck with him for the
:01:41. > :01:43.indefinite future as leader. The second most devastated woman in the
:01:44. > :01:52.country must be a vet Cooper, who really thought that her part of the
:01:53. > :01:56.party was going to reclaim its birth right -- Yvette Cooper. What happens
:01:57. > :02:01.now with the Tories is almost impossible to call. There are a lot
:02:02. > :02:05.of rumours that Theresa May is going to be removed over the summer. I
:02:06. > :02:11.think that is actually quite likely, even though most of my conservative
:02:12. > :02:15.contacts, senior Tories that I have spoken to, do not think that would
:02:16. > :02:19.be a good deal idea. They think they need to get through with a pretence
:02:20. > :02:24.of stability and it would just cause more uncertainty and doubt if she
:02:25. > :02:29.was to be replaced. The trouble is, it is stability without strength.
:02:30. > :02:34.Stability without credibility. Going into the Brexit negotiations with a
:02:35. > :02:39.leader who has been so register and has lost all credibility is very
:02:40. > :02:44.serious. What the Remain faction, who have turned this into a second
:02:45. > :02:47.referendum on the EU and voted tactically to destabilise her, have
:02:48. > :02:52.succeeded in doing is creating the conditions for the worst possible
:02:53. > :02:57.deal that Britain can get in the EU negotiations, and as a result, they
:02:58. > :03:00.have devastated the future of all those young people who are now
:03:01. > :03:05.voting so enthusiastically for Corbyn because the economic future
:03:06. > :03:09.looks bleak. Owen Jones, I want to pick up on this question of young
:03:10. > :03:11.people. I was in Leeds and in one constituency alone they had
:03:12. > :03:15.registered 13,000 new voters. There is a real sense that this idea that
:03:16. > :03:19.the Young do not vote and are not motivated was blown apart by this
:03:20. > :03:23.election. I suppose the question is what happens to that now and how
:03:24. > :03:27.sustainable is it that it can still be inspired. I think the enthusiasm
:03:28. > :03:32.of those young people cannot be understated. What we have had for
:03:33. > :03:36.the last few years is when politics intrudes in their lives it is not
:03:37. > :03:40.good. The scrapping of the education maintenance allowance, the small
:03:41. > :03:43.amount of money for those working class and aspirational children who
:03:44. > :03:46.stayed on at school. The scrapping of youth services across the
:03:47. > :03:50.country. A housing service that disproportionately affect them. The
:03:51. > :03:54.lack of secure jobs. I could go on. Young people over the last few years
:03:55. > :03:57.have had a hammering. And the cartilage and politicians over and
:03:58. > :04:01.over again is that we can do what we want when it comes to people because
:04:02. > :04:06.they are never going to vote. They will never bite back. What we saw
:04:07. > :04:10.this week was the young people fighting back and voting for a party
:04:11. > :04:14.which had an inspiring vision for them and for millions of people
:04:15. > :04:17.across the country, with policies that have been produced and vilified
:04:18. > :04:21.and ignored by most of the media in this country, that by asking those
:04:22. > :04:24.at the top of society to pay a bit more money to invest in our
:04:25. > :04:30.services, in education, to get rid of student debt. And yet we still
:04:31. > :04:33.have a Conservative Government. Let's be clear about what happened.
:04:34. > :04:37.Labour had the biggest increase in its share of the vote, not since
:04:38. > :04:46.Tony Blair in 1997, since Clement Attlee. There was the small issue of
:04:47. > :04:51.World War II at the time. This time round, Labour started from a very
:04:52. > :05:01.low base. Its achievement, where Kensington in London is now a hotbed
:05:02. > :05:05.of socialism. Canterbury, which has been a Conservative seat since the
:05:06. > :05:12.19th century. But why dismiss people based on their age? It is not just
:05:13. > :05:18.young voters. Obviously, there are 40 million people under 25. The
:05:19. > :05:24.problem is that a win is right. 40% of the vote is a huge chunk. The
:05:25. > :05:30.problem is under the first past the post system, that does not
:05:31. > :05:35.necessarily transfer into seats. That is why there is no Ukip around
:05:36. > :05:39.any more. The Conservatives got a higher proportion than that. They
:05:40. > :05:43.got a higher proportion than Margaret Thatcher, which won her
:05:44. > :05:46.famous landslide. So the smaller parties collapsed, this is why this
:05:47. > :05:53.has happened. I really want to make a point about the vision. I think
:05:54. > :05:58.this is a repudiation clearly of anything it is of the politics of
:05:59. > :06:02.focus group and message control and public relations and advertising
:06:03. > :06:07.slogans. This is finally a return to ideological politics, which is
:06:08. > :06:12.probably a healthy thing. But the cynicism of that period, when every
:06:13. > :06:17.political message had to be manipulated and controlled and it
:06:18. > :06:20.was all about the manipulation of public opinion, that was sickening.
:06:21. > :06:25.And I think now we really have seen a repudiation of that. And was that
:06:26. > :06:29.what the Conservatives were guilty of? Yes, I am afraid so. Thomas, you
:06:30. > :06:33.have been watching elections in this country for a very long time. What
:06:34. > :06:39.did you make of it? Well, I think I agree with the Janet that this was
:06:40. > :06:41.the worst I have seen and it is more at the astonishing because when
:06:42. > :06:45.Theresa May became Prime Minister, when she was put in that position,
:06:46. > :06:52.she went outside and give her famous speech which sounded like a great
:06:53. > :06:58.empathy for the working people and so forth. I said, hey, this is
:06:59. > :07:02.exactly what we need to hear. She needs to address yourself to the
:07:03. > :07:06.woefully inadequate situation domestically, and then afterwards
:07:07. > :07:10.she ran away and it was nothing but Brexit. I think she totally left the
:07:11. > :07:14.agenda of what is wrong with Britain to the hands of Jeremy Corbyn and
:07:15. > :07:21.that gave him an absolute Leeds in people's mind. His vision is to
:07:22. > :07:27.raise more money and spend more money. But it destroys the jobs of
:07:28. > :07:31.just the people you are in sympathy with. The increasing corporation
:07:32. > :07:35.tax. It is just the huge corporations that everybody hates,
:07:36. > :07:39.but the little companies that make jobs. What Labour is arguing for is
:07:40. > :07:44.to go back to the level of corporation tax that we had in 2011.
:07:45. > :07:48.And to go to the level of the US, which is not known as a hotbed of
:07:49. > :07:51.socialism, I can tell you that. The Tories started with everything
:07:52. > :07:56.stacked in their favour. No Prime Minister has had that much political
:07:57. > :08:00.traction. She had twice the support according to the polls of Labour, a
:08:01. > :08:04.much higher opinion rating. She had the backing Tory press, whose role
:08:05. > :08:07.in this election was despicable, to smear Labour, and the people
:08:08. > :08:11.rejected it, which I think is worth noting. But not just that. It is
:08:12. > :08:15.that point and it makes about the popular vote. The Ukip vote was
:08:16. > :08:19.always going to inflate the Tory vote, because it collapsed. But what
:08:20. > :08:23.we saw in this election, this is what I think is so interesting, the
:08:24. > :08:28.most radical Labour leader in history got 40% of the vote in 2017,
:08:29. > :08:32.even though all the odds were stacked against him, and what I
:08:33. > :08:34.think that shows, and I think we are now at a turning point which we have
:08:35. > :08:40.seen in other countries. We have seen Bernie Sanders in the US and
:08:41. > :08:45.new parties in Spain. In the 1970s, the post-war consensus of social
:08:46. > :08:50.democracy crumbled and collapsed. I think we are seeing that consensus,
:08:51. > :08:54.that Margaret Thatcher established in 1979, is beginning to crumble and
:08:55. > :08:57.I think there is every chance next few years of a Labour Government
:08:58. > :09:02.coming to power which will transform this country in just the way
:09:03. > :09:05.Margaret Thatcher and Clement Attlee before it transformed Britain. What
:09:06. > :09:08.this election contest reminded me of was the spirit of Michael foot, and
:09:09. > :09:13.he was the most radical leader, not Jeremy Corbyn, was revived, and
:09:14. > :09:16.without the countervailing voice of Margaret Thatcher. Nobody was doing
:09:17. > :09:24.the critique. Nobody was saying what is wrong with this position. So
:09:25. > :09:27.apart from attacking him personally. His history was too extreme in their
:09:28. > :09:36.view. They did not take on the argument at all. Let's talk about
:09:37. > :09:42.the question of where this takes us. The next question is a deal, some
:09:43. > :09:45.sort of arrangement with the Democratic Unionist Party in
:09:46. > :09:48.Northern Ireland. A lot of people watching in this country and around
:09:49. > :09:52.the world won't really know very much about the DUP. The only thing
:09:53. > :09:56.they might remember is Ian Paisley Junior. As the founder of the DUP.
:09:57. > :10:00.But it is not just the party of protest any more. It is the party
:10:01. > :10:07.that will be in Government. Yes, it started off as a protest movement in
:10:08. > :10:11.the early 70s. And it was based around the free Presbyterian Church,
:10:12. > :10:18.which Ian Paisley founded and also the party. It is deeply
:10:19. > :10:25.conservative. And as we have seen with what Ruth Davidson is saying in
:10:26. > :10:29.Scotland's is they are socially conservative, there will be issues
:10:30. > :10:33.around marriage equality, abortion as well. But if you put those to one
:10:34. > :10:37.side for a moment, because they are the ones making the headlines, the
:10:38. > :10:42.single most important thing for the DUP is the maintenance of the union
:10:43. > :10:49.with Britain. They are Brexiteer 's, but they want a soft border because
:10:50. > :10:53.a lot of their trade, particularly in food and agriculture, that kind
:10:54. > :11:00.of thing, goes north and south across the border. So they are in
:11:01. > :11:07.this strange position where they are strong Brexiteer is, but they want
:11:08. > :11:13.the open border. There is one thing to remember about them as well.
:11:14. > :11:17.There was a suggestion of having a special status for Northern Ireland,
:11:18. > :11:23.which Sinn Fein actually pushed quite strongly. The British
:11:24. > :11:26.Government have ruled that out. The Irish Government certainly haven't
:11:27. > :11:35.argued for it either. It is unlikely to happen. But the reason the DUP
:11:36. > :11:38.will put this on their list of asks, the special status being one foot in
:11:39. > :11:43.the single market, one foot out, is because most of their trade is
:11:44. > :11:46.actually with the rest of the UK. We do need to be clear. The British
:11:47. > :11:52.people need to understand what the situation they're about two faces. A
:11:53. > :11:54.Prime Minister with no authority whatsoever, a Conservative Party
:11:55. > :11:58.humiliated and now facing huge division, is now going to be held
:11:59. > :12:02.over the barrel by the most extreme party in the House of Commons. The
:12:03. > :12:09.Democratic Unionist Party, which lets just be very clear, we talk
:12:10. > :12:13.about social conservatives, it is anti-LGB T Wright, anti-woman's
:12:14. > :12:17.rights, they oppose the right of women to choose, and equally they
:12:18. > :12:25.are backed by loyalist terrorists. They are now going to be... Have a
:12:26. > :12:31.huge influence. Just to clarify that, they say they are backed by
:12:32. > :12:34.them, but they have no formal link. They are enthusiastically supported
:12:35. > :12:38.by loyalist paramilitaries. That is just an objective fact. You can see
:12:39. > :12:44.the loyalist murals all over Belfast. What this does is threaten
:12:45. > :12:48.the Northern Ireland peace process, would you have one sector of a party
:12:49. > :12:52.which now has disproportionate influence over the Westminster
:12:53. > :12:58.Government. We have just had Ruth Davidson assuring us from Theresa
:12:59. > :13:02.May that this will not imperil LGB T writes, but the one thing we know
:13:03. > :13:05.about Theresa May is that you cannot trust a single thing she says
:13:06. > :13:10.because the one thing she has done is consistently U-turn. It is very
:13:11. > :13:17.worrying when you have a political party which is sore extreme on
:13:18. > :13:22.birdie-mac and climate change and in terms of the Northern Ireland
:13:23. > :13:26.political process. From your point of view as a Corbyn supporter, I
:13:27. > :13:29.would not want too much about terrorists and I would also not go
:13:30. > :13:39.on too much about social prejudices. The people who refer to me as the
:13:40. > :13:42.Zionist due Janet Daley every time I attack Jeremy Corbyn is not a pretty
:13:43. > :13:50.picture. There is left wing bigotry and there is right-wing bigotry. Do
:13:51. > :13:55.you want to pick up on this question about whether it will be extremist
:13:56. > :14:00.in its approach. A lot of the things we are talking about our deferred
:14:01. > :14:08.issues. They have a veto on the issue of marriage equality and so
:14:09. > :14:14.on. There are 18 Westminster seats in Northern Ireland. The DUP won ten
:14:15. > :14:20.of them this time around. I mean, you talk about democracy. That is
:14:21. > :14:26.democracy. They got elected. I don't see what the issue is there. They
:14:27. > :14:29.are as entitled as any other party sitting in the House of Commons to
:14:30. > :14:36.form any kind of alliance they choose. And I'd say? I am entitled
:14:37. > :14:41.obviously and those of us who are horrified by the prospect of an
:14:42. > :14:44.electoral alliance, a parliamentary Government being formed with the
:14:45. > :14:47.support of that party, had every right to speak out. That party
:14:48. > :14:55.opposes the basic civil rights of me as a gay man. It would be absurd if
:14:56. > :15:01.I did not express that. I am not suggesting you shouldn't. Of course,
:15:02. > :15:05.the DUP can do what they want but British citizens have every right to
:15:06. > :15:13.speak out. They are the largest single party in Northern Ireland.
:15:14. > :15:16.Let's hear from Thomas. I know their position and they are not very
:15:17. > :15:21.attractive at all. But they are not going to be influential in informing
:15:22. > :15:29.of social policy in Great Britain as a whole. There is not equal marriage
:15:30. > :15:34.in Northern Ireland. But that will not impinge on the legislation. One
:15:35. > :15:37.of the assurances Ruth Davidson was trying to get from the Prime
:15:38. > :15:40.Minister was that this would not impede her supporting for example
:15:41. > :15:51.the extension of birdie-mac in Northern Ireland. But in any case,
:15:52. > :15:55.as I have said. -- LGBT rights. The DUP or not going into this alliance
:15:56. > :16:03.to start rolling back equal marriage in Scotland or England. The DUP are
:16:04. > :16:07.going into this alliance to ensure that, for example, farmers in
:16:08. > :16:12.Northern Ireland, who will be very damaged by Brexit, suddenly get more
:16:13. > :16:17.money from the UK Treasury to make up for that. This is about money,
:16:18. > :16:25.jobs, livelihoods. When you talk about the DUP social agenda, one of
:16:26. > :16:28.the dangers... You are talking about their social agenda. This is not
:16:29. > :16:34.about the social agenda. It is about the economic agenda. If we had a
:16:35. > :16:43.vote on abortion in the House of Commons, then obviously there are
:16:44. > :16:48.implications. That is a free vote. We know they are a party which
:16:49. > :16:56.opposes birdie-mac and that will have a huge influence over
:16:57. > :16:59.Government. -- LGBT rights. People watching will wonder why Brexit is
:17:00. > :17:02.such an important issue in the coming months that Sinn Fein has
:17:03. > :17:07.done so well in elections that it is happy to sit in the Northern Ireland
:17:08. > :17:10.power-sharing agreement, why its MPs will not take their seats, even in
:17:11. > :17:13.this election were actually they could have quite a lot of influence
:17:14. > :17:18.at Westminster at a time when that could affect things. It is simply
:17:19. > :17:21.because Sinn Fein as a Republican party have a long-standing
:17:22. > :17:24.abstention is policy. It is not something I understand or
:17:25. > :17:30.necessarily agree with. Gerry Adams was asked several times in the last
:17:31. > :17:36.couple of days, now you have increased your representation, why,
:17:37. > :17:42.and he has ruled it out. On Sinn Fein, I think one thing is
:17:43. > :17:45.significant. There is no power-sharing executive and there
:17:46. > :17:47.has not been for some time in Northern Ireland. It broke down for
:17:48. > :17:51.reasons we do not need to go into right now. The British Government in
:17:52. > :17:57.whatever talk school or now after the election. They were suspended
:17:58. > :18:01.during the election. It is supposed to be an almost broke. This alliance
:18:02. > :18:06.with the DUP will make that a little more difficult in any future talks
:18:07. > :18:09.with the British Government sort of refereeing whoever the Secretary of
:18:10. > :18:18.State for Northern Ireland maybe. In the middle. While the DUP are in an
:18:19. > :18:26.alliance, even at a loose electoral alliance. That is the biggest
:18:27. > :18:30.paradox in my eyes. People who are imported there will now be part of
:18:31. > :18:33.the Government. And it will make it more difficult to re-establish
:18:34. > :18:36.power-sharing in Northern Ireland, which is important or Northern
:18:37. > :18:39.Ireland right now. That is an interesting point you made about the
:18:40. > :18:42.economic agenda and the concerns about jobs and employment and so on
:18:43. > :18:45.because that is something that was almost completely missing from this
:18:46. > :18:50.discussion and one of the reasons why I really despise Corbyn and
:18:51. > :18:56.Labour as an next lefty myself is that it is now a completely
:18:57. > :18:59.bourgeois phenomenon. This is now a monopoly, monopolised by urban
:19:00. > :19:04.professionals and middle-class university students, and there has
:19:05. > :19:06.been scarcely a word said about the tragedy, the post-industrial
:19:07. > :19:11.tragedy, of working class communities in this country. It is
:19:12. > :19:16.now dead, that kind of life, a community built around a local
:19:17. > :19:19.industry, steelworks or manufacturing or coal mining. That
:19:20. > :19:22.is gone. We have lost a generation. And those are the truly forgotten
:19:23. > :19:25.people and nobody on either side of the fence and it is particularly
:19:26. > :19:29.culpable on Labour's part has had a word to say about this. There is no
:19:30. > :19:34.easy solution, but they might have had something to say to the old
:19:35. > :19:38.industrial proletariat. I think that is a very interesting point.
:19:39. > :19:41.Obviously, 40% of the publishing voted for Labour over that and are
:19:42. > :19:48.not middle-class professionals and university students. This will not
:19:49. > :19:53.work unless I can say... Because when you speak I do not interrupted.
:19:54. > :19:56.I will try to speak and then you can come back and then we will have a
:19:57. > :20:01.discussion. What we saw in many ex-industrial areas of Britain is
:20:02. > :20:03.those who previously voted for Ukip did not just vote for the
:20:04. > :20:07.Conservatives as predicted but also voted for the Labour Party as well
:20:08. > :20:10.and that includes many of those ex-industrial workers. What Labour
:20:11. > :20:16.have argued in this election is for a genuine Living Wage to be
:20:17. > :20:23.introduced. If you haven't got a job! There we go again. On the basis
:20:24. > :20:26.that most people in property are in work. And the second thing is an
:20:27. > :20:32.active industrial strategy, learning from countries such as Germany,
:20:33. > :20:34.which haven't had the approach of letting the market decide and
:20:35. > :20:38.industries will disappear and then something else will rise, but
:20:39. > :20:42.instead have intervened, for example supporting local jobs. Equally, a
:20:43. > :20:45.house-building programme, which Labour have committed to, will also
:20:46. > :20:48.create huge numbers of jobs in construction. Your right to raise
:20:49. > :20:54.that. The Tories have nothing to say on that. How is it that Jeremy
:20:55. > :20:59.Corbyn can ask Theresa May to stand aside so he can form a Government?
:21:00. > :21:06.He lost the election. The figures simply don't add up. Unless you want
:21:07. > :21:12.your DUP, who you like so much, to join him. I don't like the DUP. How
:21:13. > :21:17.is Jeremy Corbyn going to form a Government without the DUP? I think
:21:18. > :21:25.the odds are that the Labour Government... Who do I speak to you?
:21:26. > :21:31.There are two people here. I can only respond to one point at a time.
:21:32. > :21:36.I think what Labour are doing is a very clever and canny political ploy
:21:37. > :21:43.to expose the fact that Theresa May humiliatingly lost this election and
:21:44. > :21:50.now has a coalition of chaos. Jeremy Corbyn lost this election. What I
:21:51. > :21:56.think will happen... I want to bring in Thomas to talk about the other
:21:57. > :22:02.issue, which is the Brexit negotiations. Does this result in
:22:03. > :22:06.any way change the landscape models those in positions? Well, I wonder
:22:07. > :22:12.what the will of the people really is? Theresa May keeps quoting the
:22:13. > :22:22.will of the people and someone to write a novel about 50 shades of
:22:23. > :22:25.Brexit. 50 is enough. And so in a sense, we have to wait and see. We
:22:26. > :22:31.cannot legislate about what is going to happen. We cannot speculate. We
:22:32. > :22:34.have to wait for the negotiations. Will they be pleased are
:22:35. > :22:38.disappointed with the outcome, do you think? I think they will be
:22:39. > :22:45.pretty neutral, on balance. This is too serious a matter to be sort of
:22:46. > :22:48.hoisted on what you prefer or what you do not prefer. You have to be
:22:49. > :22:52.professional. You have to get down and work out a deal which is also
:22:53. > :22:59.accommodating for Europeans and so forth. And I think this result will
:23:00. > :23:03.influence the direction of the nature of the negotiations. Ask you,
:23:04. > :23:06.Janet, about something interesting which came up this morning. I had a
:23:07. > :23:11.Tory MP on the channel only a couple of hours ago saying what this proves
:23:12. > :23:16.is that hard Brexit is dead. This is interesting because Conservative MPs
:23:17. > :23:20.will now start to argue in terms of Brexit, then the dental factionalism
:23:21. > :23:25.in the Government side is quite serious. I think the Tories are
:23:26. > :23:28.pretty ruthlessly disciplined and I think that will be brought under
:23:29. > :23:32.control, that kind of talk. But that is neither here nor there. The real
:23:33. > :23:35.issue remains that there is serious disagreement within the party and
:23:36. > :23:39.serious disagreement even among Conservative voters. When I said
:23:40. > :23:45.that they use it as a way of having a second referendum, there were an
:23:46. > :23:47.awful lot of dedicated voters who voted tactically deliberately to
:23:48. > :23:50.sabotage the Government's attempts because they were convinced that it
:23:51. > :23:53.would go for hard Brexit and partly because they hoped to destabilise
:23:54. > :23:58.the situation so much that they hope they would have to go away and that
:23:59. > :24:01.is just not political possible. It is with the situation of Theresa May
:24:02. > :24:12.being not very credible as a Brexiteer. Unfolding the flag. The
:24:13. > :24:22.biggest U-turn is interning from a quiet remain to a Brexiteer. She was
:24:23. > :24:26.always able to remain, but that makes it even more suspicious. If
:24:27. > :24:30.she is not frank about these things. I don't see why EU leaders in any
:24:31. > :24:35.sense can take Theresa May seriously after this. Clearly, she got this
:24:36. > :24:40.election on a false premise meaning that the more seats she got would
:24:41. > :24:46.strengthen her hands. EU governments have no interest whatsoever in the
:24:47. > :24:49.scale of her majority. They are interested in just doing the deal
:24:50. > :24:56.with Britain. They want to revellers sitting in the seat across the table
:24:57. > :24:59.from them. Can I just finished that point? EU governments are
:25:00. > :25:04.accountable to their own electorates. Their own voters. That
:25:05. > :25:09.is what they are interested in. What Britain does is to Britain. In terms
:25:10. > :25:12.of that, we have seen that she has had a shambolic campaign. She is now
:25:13. > :25:18.drastically weakened her own authority and she now has two sets
:25:19. > :25:23.of people, well, three sets. She has the DUP on the one hand, she has
:25:24. > :25:27.hard-core right-wing Brexit supporters, and she also has a
:25:28. > :25:31.liberal remain faction like Nicky Morgan. And the problem is, before
:25:32. > :25:35.she struggled to get legislation through, do you remember national
:25:36. > :25:39.insurance when she tried to do a U-turn on that but she did not have
:25:40. > :25:42.a majority. How is she going to get anything through when she has three
:25:43. > :25:48.completely different factions? I will give you all one last word. How
:25:49. > :25:55.long has Theresa May got? At least until the finalisation of the first
:25:56. > :25:59.negotiations on Brexit. A year. Maybe a year. She has no authority.
:26:00. > :26:04.She will not last until the end of this year. Thank you all very much.
:26:05. > :26:07.A real pleasure to have you here. What a fascinating week in politics.
:26:08. > :26:08.We will be back with more next week. From all others on programme,
:26:09. > :26:41.goodbye. Hello. Once again, the weekend has
:26:42. > :26:42.started with quite a variety of weather