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:00:25. > :00:25.Hello and welcome to Dateline London.

:00:26. > :00:31.This week, we discuss the latest UK proposals

:00:32. > :00:40.We look at India, 70 years after independence.

:00:41. > :00:43.And we ask, is there really a crisis in Donald Trump's White House?

:00:44. > :00:46.The writer and political commentator Adam Raphael.

:00:47. > :00:52.Stephanie Baker, senior writer and chief global business

:00:53. > :00:55.London correspondent for Le Point and Le Soir, Marc Roche.

:00:56. > :00:57.And columnist for The National, and The Arab Weekly,

:00:58. > :01:17.We will talk shortly have bottles of Brexit proposals. Firstly however...

:01:18. > :01:20.Let's start though this week with a word about the terrorist

:01:21. > :01:22.attacks in Spain, which killed 14 people in two cities

:01:23. > :01:26.The police there are still looking for members of a jihadist gang.

:01:27. > :01:32.Adam and Marc, your response to yet another attack in Europe.

:01:33. > :01:41.A similar modus operandi from the past. Yes, what can I say? It is a

:01:42. > :01:46.second-generation, young men committing these things, obviously

:01:47. > :01:50.radicalised, alienated, not surprisingly it happened in

:01:51. > :01:56.Barcelona. It was obviously going to be a key target. There are rumours

:01:57. > :02:01.of a CIA warning to Spain, we do not know if we were true or not but in a

:02:02. > :02:09.place like Las Ramblas, there is clearly a potential target beer and

:02:10. > :02:11.there is a bit of a surprise that they were able to drive for 500

:02:12. > :02:17.metres down Las Ramblas. Another soft target, we see it time and

:02:18. > :02:22.again. Yes, and after Nice I said that that sort of thing should not

:02:23. > :02:27.have cars allowed because it was a similar situation. The promenade.

:02:28. > :02:31.Basically there is very little to tell you other than that we have to

:02:32. > :02:37.count on the Muslim community to pick up these guys in the mosques

:02:38. > :02:42.and tell the police and also, I think we have to do better work at

:02:43. > :02:50.integrating the young Muslim men who seem to be forgotten about in a

:02:51. > :02:54.multicultural society. Well, the hunt is continuing the belief or at

:02:55. > :03:01.least one more member, we will see what develops in the days ahead.

:03:02. > :03:03.Before that, there was much focus as we have reflected here many times on

:03:04. > :03:07.Brexit. So, the next round of formal Brexit

:03:08. > :03:10.talks begin later this month. To that end, the British Government

:03:11. > :03:13.released its position paper this week about its ambitions for Ireland

:03:14. > :03:15.and particularly the border. The Prime Minister Theresa May

:03:16. > :03:18.was adamant about the need to maintain an open border

:03:19. > :03:20.between Northern Ireland and the Republic when the UK

:03:21. > :03:22.leaves the customs union, allowing easy movement

:03:23. > :03:24.for both people and goods, But the European Commission swiftly

:03:25. > :03:33.retorted that frictionless trade wasn't possible outside

:03:34. > :03:35.the single market. In a moment we'll discuss

:03:36. > :03:37.whether the position paper has thrown up more questions

:03:38. > :03:49.than answers... What do you think, Adam? I am afraid

:03:50. > :03:55.we are still in the delusional state in this country, this two papers are

:03:56. > :03:57.at least some advanced towards reality, but, for instance, the

:03:58. > :04:02.Brexit Secretary David Davis said that the talks with Europe were

:04:03. > :04:10.going incredibly well. They are not. They are going incredibly badly.

:04:11. > :04:13.politicians in this country exists, politicians in this country exists,

:04:14. > :04:16.the Cabinet is split three ways, we are any bad hole. It is only going

:04:17. > :04:18.to be a question of time before this is revealed in the British public

:04:19. > :04:24.realise they have been sold a total pub. What happens then, goodness

:04:25. > :04:28.only knows but I think this two papers, at least, there is a

:04:29. > :04:32.traditional deal acceptance, that is important, because the idea of

:04:33. > :04:36.marching off the cliff face would be a disaster for everyone in this

:04:37. > :04:37.country, not just for business but for ordinary working people as well.

:04:38. > :04:57.We are slowly moving towards reality but my goodness, the

:04:58. > :04:59.Europeans are correct when they see we are still in Neverland. Many

:05:00. > :05:01.business leaders have said that this paper gives us clarity and we know

:05:02. > :05:02.that business-like certainty, but it that business-like certainty, but

:05:03. > :05:04.does not get to the heart about what does not get to the heart about what

:05:05. > :05:07.we do with the customs union. There will be an agreement on the EU

:05:08. > :05:10.citizens, there will be an agreement on Ireland. The two diminishes as

:05:11. > :05:14.the devolved bill, that will be the big issue, especially trade, because

:05:15. > :05:21.the British want to have everything, they want to negotiate trade deals

:05:22. > :05:25.before they have left of the European Union, that is impossible.

:05:26. > :05:31.The situation is that the European Union is very strong and united, 27

:05:32. > :05:41.strong and the British are divided. So the clock is ticking. Absolutely!

:05:42. > :05:44.At the clock is ticking and we have lost one year because of the

:05:45. > :05:50.political situation in Britain and the British government is any weak

:05:51. > :05:57.position because it is divided, and Adam said, and political Divin --

:05:58. > :06:03.political opinion and business opinion is also divided. Stephanie.

:06:04. > :06:06.I think business is united comparatively speaking, certainly

:06:07. > :06:10.compared to the Cabinet and I think this week finally Number Ten has

:06:11. > :06:13.come up with policy proposals but they picked the two most difficult

:06:14. > :06:19.issues, customs and Northern Ireland. It is definitely a victory

:06:20. > :06:23.for the businesses saying we need a transition period, but it seems what

:06:24. > :06:27.they are proposing is not just short on details but very unrealistic that

:06:28. > :06:36.the UK would be out of the single market and out of the customs union

:06:37. > :06:38.similar relationship that is close similar relationship that is close

:06:39. > :06:41.to resembling what we have at the moment. All the while not having any

:06:42. > :06:44.of the obligations of freedom of movement are paying into the EU

:06:45. > :06:49.budget. It sounds great, but why would the EU agree to any of that?

:06:50. > :06:53.The hint and this is that they will have some great new IT system that

:06:54. > :06:58.will be a magical solution to solving these problems. I have

:06:59. > :07:03.spoken to consultants that have said that actually that is far off, it is

:07:04. > :07:08.very costly, many years to go before it becomes a reality. So what they

:07:09. > :07:13.are proposing I think it's unrealistic and on top of that, I

:07:14. > :07:15.would tell you that actually, the customs union is only part of the

:07:16. > :07:22.problem. People forget that the British economy, 80% of it is

:07:23. > :07:26.involved in services, that is not affected by this. The big prize at

:07:27. > :07:32.the end of the day is if they can get a deal on services to protect

:07:33. > :07:35.the British economy. I woke up the other day listening to the Brexit

:07:36. > :07:43.about how ambiguity is deliberate, about how ambiguity is deliberate,

:07:44. > :07:53.the lack of clarity is a good thing, and I felt, I was not around in 1947

:07:54. > :07:57.when Britain was leaving India, but my grandparents, my payments'

:07:58. > :08:02.generation, would probably have recognised the Brexit chaos. At that

:08:03. > :08:07.time there was a much shorter turnaround of time, there was a

:08:08. > :08:14.great lack of information provided, in fact, Lord Mountbatten, the last

:08:15. > :08:17.Viceroy to India, he did not allow the new borders of India and

:08:18. > :08:23.Pakistan to be announced until after Independent States were declared. At

:08:24. > :08:27.that time you could see that perhaps that is OK because at least the

:08:28. > :08:30.British had to worry or not worry about all of those natives, millions

:08:31. > :08:36.of Indians and the new country of Pakistan. But the confusion that has

:08:37. > :08:40.been created here and the polarisation that is allowed because

:08:41. > :08:45.of the lack of information, you wonder why Britain would want to do

:08:46. > :08:49.that to themselves, it is their own future we are playing with. Because

:08:50. > :08:52.52% of the population voted for it and plenty watching this programme

:08:53. > :08:57.will believe that things are not going terribly, things are going as

:08:58. > :09:01.they should, this is what they voted for, this is what they want. The

:09:02. > :09:06.lack of information, so when did you read that 759 international trade

:09:07. > :09:10.agreements and deals have to be negotiated by Britain right after

:09:11. > :09:17.Brexit. The other day you have read that there is no reason to have any

:09:18. > :09:21.import tariffs at all, let us go off and buy oranges cheaper from South

:09:22. > :09:25.Africa and buy from Tunisia because the EU levy will be very heavy

:09:26. > :09:31.import tariffs on this. It will be fine. Perhaps there is a bit of this

:09:32. > :09:33.and that but it could lower the temperature if the government use

:09:34. > :09:38.some of the information it is getting and provided it to people to

:09:39. > :09:43.allow them to test the limits of politics as decent and responsive

:09:44. > :09:47.citizens. The government has fundamentally disagreed, you

:09:48. > :09:51.mentioned 52% voted, we don't do that, but the latest Ipsos MORI poll

:09:52. > :09:54.published by the economists suggest that three quarters of the people

:09:55. > :09:58.believe that Britain is the incorrect path. That does not mean

:09:59. > :10:01.that they want to get out, there is no means that that is the clear

:10:02. > :10:04.situation and they are not suggesting that if there was a

:10:05. > :10:10.referendum tomorrow that people would change their minds. Public

:10:11. > :10:14.opinion is extremely fluid and very, very uncertain and the divisions in

:10:15. > :10:21.the Cabinet, to some extent, reflect that. No one really knows where they

:10:22. > :10:25.are, the politicians, frankly, I do not meet a great case for journalist

:10:26. > :10:28.but we can rightly or wrongly speak honestly. Many of the politicians

:10:29. > :10:32.cannot speak honestly because they do not want to do that because they

:10:33. > :10:38.are too frightened because they do not know which way it is all going.

:10:39. > :10:45.We are left in the hands of these characters, Liam Fox, David Davis...

:10:46. > :10:50.Boris Johnson as well. I personally have very little confidence in them

:10:51. > :10:54.at each wheel to negotiate our way in this difficult task. Partly at a

:10:55. > :11:00.time when the European Union is doing extremely well, the euro is

:11:01. > :11:03.high, Germany and France are relaunching their politics. It looks

:11:04. > :11:07.like on the one hand you have Britain which cannot get a position

:11:08. > :11:12.and the European Union which goes forward with or without Britain.

:11:13. > :11:17.Adam, you said earlier, it is not going well, it is going badly.

:11:18. > :11:23.Actually, to what extent does any of us know that? Does anyone go into a

:11:24. > :11:29.negotiation, you do not put all of your cards on the table, did you?

:11:30. > :11:32.That is a process. It looked like they were behind schedule, now it

:11:33. > :11:37.knows that the trade talks in October could be delayed until

:11:38. > :11:43.December. They are behind schedule. Yes, in terms of the timetable

:11:44. > :11:48.perhaps. On social media and the bad tempers and Develin telling us that

:11:49. > :11:52.they won't Brexit reversed or not diverse, I think a lot of this has

:11:53. > :11:56.been created because people do not know. There will be trade-offs, for

:11:57. > :12:00.some people who want to leave the European Union it is fine, there

:12:01. > :12:05.will be trade-offs. Some people will be worse off in some ways but better

:12:06. > :12:08.the people know. UK Government is the people know. UK Government

:12:09. > :12:12.going to be trusted enough to be not going to be trusted enough to be not

:12:13. > :12:22.thought of as giving alternative facts. Brexit will take place at the

:12:23. > :12:30.end of the day. I love the idea that Marc says that all 27 are wonderful.

:12:31. > :12:36.It is for the birds, you wait, the divisions are not good. That is the

:12:37. > :12:44.typical British idea. We are united to resist the British proposal. You

:12:45. > :12:47.might be right on that. To return to the specific point of Ireland which

:12:48. > :12:51.is what the position paper was about. Stephanie is correct to say

:12:52. > :12:55.that this is one of the greatest areas in the negotiations, isn't it?

:12:56. > :12:59.And it ties of the problem of Britain wanting to bring down

:13:00. > :13:04.emigration but if you do not have a hard border it could be risky in

:13:05. > :13:05.terms of people smuggling, all important issues. Yes,

:13:06. > :13:11.be the problem that we will have a be the problem that we will have a

:13:12. > :13:14.frontier that is fluid and not well policed because you will have

:13:15. > :13:21.smugglers, terrorists, traffickers of humans who will be able to go

:13:22. > :13:25.into the... The Irish effectively have a veto. Frankly, as the

:13:26. > :13:28.proposals put forward by the British government or whatever, unless they

:13:29. > :13:32.are acceptable to the Irish government, it will be difficult for

:13:33. > :13:36.the EU to agree to them. So, I suspect that is one of the most

:13:37. > :13:41.difficult issues to resolve. I personally believe the money is not

:13:42. > :13:46.a huge thing, we will be paying billions anyway. And the divorce

:13:47. > :13:52.bill. But the trade and Ireland, those are the key issues and

:13:53. > :13:56.frankly, we remain in the divisional series in this country. Especially

:13:57. > :14:02.having a government with the defence of the union is for survival and the

:14:03. > :14:06.union has an agenda and Ireland which is different from Dublin. It

:14:07. > :14:10.seems like everyone wants the same thing which is no hard border, but

:14:11. > :14:14.how did you get there? It seems like an external border to the EU, there

:14:15. > :14:20.will have to be checks on goods going to and from, whether that is a

:14:21. > :14:24.virtual border or not. People might be the easiest part of it but you

:14:25. > :14:29.already have French farmers talking about concerns about that being a

:14:30. > :14:33.back door route into the EU for agricultural produce. Chicken from

:14:34. > :14:38.the United States! There is something to look forward to! We can

:14:39. > :14:42.agree that the island issue is very difficult regarding Brexit and we

:14:43. > :14:45.know more and more about this. Well, the British Government talks

:14:46. > :14:47.confidently about doing trade with nations outside the EU -

:14:48. > :14:50.India being one of the key markets - and this week, of course,

:14:51. > :14:53.saw India mark its 70th Rashmee, how are relations between

:14:54. > :15:12.London and Delhi at the moment? Polite. I know that sounds drizzly

:15:13. > :15:17.bloodless and without passion, but perhaps that is not a bad thing.

:15:18. > :15:23.Because, you know, there has been over the passage of time for both

:15:24. > :15:27.countries the relationship has the equation to evolve into a steady

:15:28. > :15:31.relationship, of mutual respect and all of that. That sounds quite

:15:32. > :15:37.diplomatic. Bear in mind we're talking about the 70th anniversary,

:15:38. > :15:46.70 as a birthday is not particularly momentous, it is not life-changing,

:15:47. > :15:50.it is not likely 21st or a 50th or A75, or 100, so you have to look at

:15:51. > :15:52.the passage of time or closely and see where we are. I think it would

:15:53. > :15:59.describe the relationship as currently made up of the skull cars

:16:00. > :16:05.and the scoffers. The day after the Brexit referendum occurred in June

:16:06. > :16:09.2016, their birdies Mark Hughes who said watching Britain partition

:16:10. > :16:16.itself, let them feel the same pain of division that had brought itself

:16:17. > :16:19.to the subcontinent, let us see what happens to that. So there was a bit

:16:20. > :16:26.of the delight that was being taken at the predicament of Britain. The

:16:27. > :16:30.scoffers will say that Britain is this distant connection, because in

:16:31. > :16:34.seven times removed or whatever. It's only cultural relevance now is

:16:35. > :16:39.cricket and tea and the fact that there is a feeding fondness for PG

:16:40. > :16:44.Woodhouse, his writing and all of that. I do not think that is where

:16:45. > :16:48.we are, I think we should let the events of the past be in the history

:16:49. > :16:52.books but let them be any history books. In other words, let Britain

:16:53. > :16:56.teach that history, contextualise it. As for trade, I do not think

:16:57. > :17:01.that is happening any time soon and the reason is that Indians, just

:17:02. > :17:05.like other members of the Commonwealth, New Zealand,

:17:06. > :17:09.Australia, Canada and so on, they want to have mobility of people just

:17:10. > :17:16.as much as the mobility of cash and goods and investment and Britain has

:17:17. > :17:21.shown itself to be rather unwilling. On that front. Unwelcoming, is that

:17:22. > :17:27.what you think? Yes, for example, for an Indian to buy it to match

:17:28. > :17:31.your visa to come to Britain that caused four times what it cost

:17:32. > :17:35.someone from China. Indian students cannot study here or work here after

:17:36. > :17:42.the finish studying. They are not allowed to come and. Workers are not

:17:43. > :17:48.allowed. 30,000 Indians were told that their work permits would not be

:17:49. > :17:52.renewed. There are issues and Indian officials feel that quite strongly.

:17:53. > :17:59.If we're going to do well after Brexit, do we need to be more

:18:00. > :18:03.welcoming as a nation, is this a key stumbling block in terms of trade? I

:18:04. > :18:05.think that India is a key test case as to whether Britain can negotiate

:18:06. > :18:12.trade deals with other countries. India is not a major trading partner

:18:13. > :18:18.of the UK. It has a huge trade deficit with India, so doing a

:18:19. > :18:20.free-trade agreement with India is Laura advantage to Britain than it

:18:21. > :18:26.is to India. The biggest trading partner of India includes the US,

:18:27. > :18:33.China and Germany is in the top ten. Use Angela Merkel this week saying

:18:34. > :18:39.that she wants to restart the EU's talks with India on its own trade

:18:40. > :18:43.and investment agreement. And so, from the Indian perspective, what is

:18:44. > :18:46.more important, a trade deal with the UK or the EU? I think that is

:18:47. > :18:53.self-explanatory. Let us turn our attentions to the

:18:54. > :18:56.United States now. White House chief strategist

:18:57. > :18:58.Steve Bannon is the latest member of the Trump administration to be

:18:59. > :19:01.fired at the end of a week in which the President's new chief

:19:02. > :19:04.of staff, John Kelly, was photographed shaking his head

:19:05. > :19:06.and staring at the floor during a particularly chaotic news

:19:07. > :19:08.conference which centred on the violence in

:19:09. > :19:11.Charlottesville, Virginia. Several commentators have described

:19:12. > :19:28.this week as a turning point. No, I think it is a sort of reality

:19:29. > :19:31.TV show. I do not know what the ending is but it is extraordinary,

:19:32. > :19:35.there has never been a presidency like it, I would rather doubt

:19:36. > :19:40.whether we will ever be a presidency like it again. It is an

:19:41. > :19:43.House is in chaos, but you can fire House is in chaos, but you can fire

:19:44. > :19:48.any number of people like Steve Bannon and what have you and they

:19:49. > :19:52.have fired five people now, the lights of Flynn and Sara Michie and

:19:53. > :19:56.whoever, but in the end, it is the president who is the problem and he

:19:57. > :20:01.is tweeting at four o'clock in the morning. He is a very odd character

:20:02. > :20:05.and you could say that he is a reality show TV man, which is what I

:20:06. > :20:14.normally see, or you could say that he is a property spec later that got

:20:15. > :20:16.lucky or not lucky. He is also a demigod of a politician but he has

:20:17. > :20:20.shown himself to be particularly inept politically but some of the

:20:21. > :20:25.statements that he has been making, he obviously has no idea of how to

:20:26. > :20:29.manage men and women at all. So I have no idea what the outcome will

:20:30. > :20:33.be but I think the congressional elections which come mid term will

:20:34. > :20:39.be pretty horrific and the real issue to me is, will Republicans, at

:20:40. > :20:48.what stage will senior Republicans say enough is enough? But that is

:20:49. > :20:53.the key point, isn't it? Stephanie, what is your estimation? Not just

:20:54. > :20:54.the Steve Bannon thing, it is Charlottesville, the

:20:55. > :20:57.murder of a young women and that was murder of a young women and that was

:20:58. > :21:00.the point at which quite a few strategist I spoke to over the

:21:01. > :21:04.course of Reid said Charlottesville is something different and in terms

:21:05. > :21:09.of the reaction of Donald Trump to this, this is a turning point, to

:21:10. > :21:13.reduce yet like that? Many people have said that based on the things

:21:14. > :21:18.he has said previously and it has not turned up like that. I do think

:21:19. > :21:22.this is different. It took some time but you finally had two dozen

:21:23. > :21:25.Republicans come out and criticise Donald Trump by name for his

:21:26. > :21:28.equivocal response to Charlottesville. So I think that is

:21:29. > :21:34.significant. Including business leaders. He has presided over an

:21:35. > :21:38.unprecedented rift between corporate America and the White House after

:21:39. > :21:41.having built himself up as the business president and welcoming

:21:42. > :21:47.them into the White House. They have now all abandoned him and you even

:21:48. > :21:51.had last night the billionaire Carl icon who had been supportive of him

:21:52. > :21:57.stepping down as his advisor on regulatory affairs. So I think this

:21:58. > :22:04.is a turning point and the Caroline Shearer is the legislative agenda is

:22:05. > :22:08.packed for the autumn and it is not just on, you know, ambitious

:22:09. > :22:13.proposals that are Donald Trump put forward for tax reform or

:22:14. > :22:16.those are very unrealistic now, those are very unrealistic now,

:22:17. > :22:20.given the political climate and how he has squandered his political

:22:21. > :22:23.capital. But things like getting a budget passed, raising the

:22:24. > :22:26.debt-ceiling, these are making sure there is not the government

:22:27. > :22:34.shutdown, these are big issues and the question is, will Congress be

:22:35. > :22:37.able to get its act together to pass those things to avert a shutdown of

:22:38. > :22:39.government, given the lack of leadership in the White House? And

:22:40. > :22:41.the divisions that exist? Some people are worried that the

:22:42. > :22:46.departure of Steve Bannon means that there is no longer any points person

:22:47. > :22:52.for relations with Congress and now with Steve Bannon out it is unclear

:22:53. > :22:57.how that will play out. He has made a big story out of the fact that he

:22:58. > :23:01.will wage war on anyone who gets in the way of the Trump administration

:23:02. > :23:05.and that means House Speaker Paul Ryan is on the line of fire and

:23:06. > :23:10.certainly the more moderate forces and the White House the lights of

:23:11. > :23:18.the economic adviser and the Treasury Secretary. Steve Bannon in

:23:19. > :23:26.some ways was also fighting, he said, the intense lobbying of

:23:27. > :23:30.government and himself being a former government banker.

:23:31. > :23:33.Goldman Sachs lobby in the White Goldman Sachs lobby in the White

:23:34. > :23:38.House has now come to power and what is good for them is not necessarily

:23:39. > :23:43.good for the US as we know from the financial crisis. I think that every

:23:44. > :23:46.bite is supposed to be the very worst week for the Donald Trump

:23:47. > :23:50.presidency, every week he is opposed done something that is so

:23:51. > :23:54.outrageous, this is the moment where everything will fall. I am not sure

:23:55. > :24:00.that that is actually true because he has still got an amazing amount

:24:01. > :24:05.of support in his base and that based, as Adam will know from having

:24:06. > :24:08.covered the Nixon presidency, even at the time that Richard Nixon was

:24:09. > :24:15.being investigated and things were really bad for him, he had equal

:24:16. > :24:22.level of about 25 or 27% support. So I think if there is that, I do not

:24:23. > :24:28.know what covered the congressmen are going to really be willing to do

:24:29. > :24:32.very much to the President, unless people discernibly split from him.

:24:33. > :24:39.And while that point even come? Had a new centre are being created by

:24:40. > :24:46.getting rid of a right-wing agenda? I do not know, we are seeing that in

:24:47. > :24:49.India, it is happening in Hungary... Do we reach a point where some

:24:50. > :24:52.the brand and the Republican Party, the brand and the Republican Party,

:24:53. > :25:04.does it have to come down to that practical point? We are afraid of...

:25:05. > :25:12.The popular feeling has been... How do you fight the populist like

:25:13. > :25:17.Donald Trump or...? It is not just enough to be appalled by Donald

:25:18. > :25:21.Trump, you must have a positive agenda, another option. Some good

:25:22. > :25:27.points have been made that the war base remains and would probably vote

:25:28. > :25:32.for him. The question is, does that road, frankly he will not be able to

:25:33. > :25:37.deliver on jobs in the rust belt, he cannot deliver on jobs and tax

:25:38. > :25:44.reform, at what stage is that we start to erode? I do not have a clue

:25:45. > :25:48.but personally, I am not as concerned by his averages statements

:25:49. > :25:52.of Charlottesville, it is typically inept from him, but any sense, for

:25:53. > :25:57.the politically correct, it has really matter and that has really

:25:58. > :26:01.divided America and it has focused attention on his lack of political

:26:02. > :26:07.skills. In the end, so long as that core base remains, he probably will

:26:08. > :26:14.survive. You have of course the recession which with Barack Obama

:26:15. > :26:19.was turned around. We were told that was no longer present but it has

:26:20. > :26:25.come back to the fore again with Charlottesville and black people

:26:26. > :26:34.having to face criticism. You almost feel like America is going back to a

:26:35. > :26:36.dark past. Let us see what the coming days and

:26:37. > :26:37.weeks bring on those stories. Do watch next week,

:26:38. > :26:41.same time, same place. Thanks for being

:26:42. > :26:52.with us, and goodbye.