0:00:00 > 0:00:10Crime in Wales is going down. Burglaries are on the up, this is
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0:00:12 > 0:00:15Good evening. If you look at the statistics, crime levels across the
0:00:15 > 0:00:18country appear to be falling. If you look at opinion polls after the
0:00:18 > 0:00:23economy and unemployment crime and law and order is the third most
0:00:24 > 0:00:27important issue affecting all of us. What's the true picture you may
0:00:27 > 0:00:30ask? Well the answers may lie in the figures on burglary - Dragon's
0:00:30 > 0:00:36Eye has learnt that burglary rates have gone up by 20% across Wales
0:00:36 > 0:00:39despite a fall in overall crime. The figures come from a new
0:00:39 > 0:00:47compilation of recorded crime by UK Crime Stats as I've been finding
0:00:47 > 0:00:52out. It is something we all worry about,
0:00:52 > 0:01:02how much crime is there in society, how safe are our houses and
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0:01:02 > 0:01:06belongings. Overall, crime fell last year by 70%. When we look a
0:01:06 > 0:01:12burglary it is a different story. On average, the numbers go up by
0:01:12 > 0:01:1920%. That goes against the trend according to one Criminology
0:01:19 > 0:01:23experts. It is a concern because it's an area that has traditionally
0:01:23 > 0:01:31over the last decade or so, the number of burglaries has been
0:01:31 > 0:01:34dropping steadily. Increased security, targeted policing, a
0:01:34 > 0:01:39number of reasons why. The police will be disappointed there is a
0:01:39 > 0:01:46rise in burglary and they would take the appropriate action and
0:01:46 > 0:01:51analyse the data. Of course we want -- will not know if it's a long-
0:01:51 > 0:01:56term trend for a number of years. It could be a statistical Spike,
0:01:56 > 0:02:03the numbers are not tremendous in terms of overall crime and
0:02:03 > 0:02:09occasionally you do get this spike for a number of reasons, even down
0:02:09 > 0:02:16to burglars being released back into society. They will look at it
0:02:16 > 0:02:26I imagine in a long-term period to see if there's a trend. Different
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0:02:39 > 0:02:49parts of the country fare South Wales Police saw the number
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0:02:49 > 0:02:59go up from 563 in 20th December 10 to 834. In North Wales, the figure
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0:03:01 > 0:03:06What has caused this apparent increase? In the press, headlines
0:03:06 > 0:03:11about an austerity crime wave but the man who compiled the figures is
0:03:11 > 0:03:17not convinced. The recent data suggesting specifically robbery and
0:03:17 > 0:03:20burglary goes up a little bit in recession. However, we should be
0:03:20 > 0:03:25cautious to because it depends on the area. The national picture does
0:03:25 > 0:03:29not give you that much of the field. What affects people is crime in
0:03:29 > 0:03:35their area and concerns about the relative risk compared to other
0:03:35 > 0:03:39local areas. The Home Office said they are improving the transparency
0:03:39 > 0:03:44of information to the public through crime maps so they can hold
0:03:44 > 0:03:53their forces to account. Police and Crown Commissioners will act as the
0:03:53 > 0:03:58people's champion by setting local In some areas, there will always be
0:03:58 > 0:04:03certain problems, the centre of Cardiff is a shopping buzzing
0:04:03 > 0:04:09destination at day and a party venue by night. In dozens of pubs
0:04:09 > 0:04:12and clubs hundreds of shops and visitors every year, it might be
0:04:12 > 0:04:17surprising Cardiff city centre has the highest number of crimes in
0:04:17 > 0:04:23Wales. The area also has the 7th highest number of crimes in the
0:04:23 > 0:04:30whole of England and Wales. Last year, there were over 11,500 crimes
0:04:30 > 0:04:34committed last year and of those over 3,500 or anti-social behaviour.
0:04:35 > 0:04:40That is 10 every day. Anyone who spends a night out in Cardiff may
0:04:40 > 0:04:44have seen the antics of some revellers. According to our expert,
0:04:44 > 0:04:49high numbers of crime recorded could be because of more bobbies on
0:04:49 > 0:04:54the beat. The problem with recorded crime figures is that it is just
0:04:54 > 0:04:58the crime we know about. And it is the fact that more police you put
0:04:58 > 0:05:03on the streets, invariably what happens is more crime is recalled -
0:05:03 > 0:05:08- reported. It's a case of we know what we know, we don't know about
0:05:08 > 0:05:12what we don't know about. It sounds strange. There is a lot of crying
0:05:12 > 0:05:19in society we do not know about because it's not report it. --
0:05:19 > 0:05:25crime. There are many reasons why. The falling crime overall will be
0:05:25 > 0:05:28welcome news to many but the burglaries will be cause for
0:05:28 > 0:05:31concern. The UK Government is pushing through some far reaching
0:05:31 > 0:05:33changes to Welsh and English police forces - budgets are being cut but
0:05:34 > 0:05:38Home Office Ministers insist less bureaucracy will free up more
0:05:38 > 0:05:42officers to patrol our streets. We're also just a few months away
0:05:42 > 0:05:45from the first elections of elected police commissioners. Plenty to
0:05:45 > 0:05:48discuss, then, when Dragon's Eye's, Tomos Livingstone met up with the
0:05:48 > 0:05:51shadow policing minister, the Delyn MP, David Hanson and began by
0:05:51 > 0:05:59asking him what he made of the twenty per cent rise in the
0:05:59 > 0:06:04burglary rate. I am very concerned because
0:06:04 > 0:06:09burglary is a crime that affects people in their homes. With
0:06:09 > 0:06:13personal crime going up 11% over the last year, the worrying trend
0:06:13 > 0:06:19emerging in police forces. What explains this rise, is it the
0:06:19 > 0:06:23recession? The Labour government was the first year of the recession
0:06:23 > 0:06:29and I remember as police minister being surprised we contained the
0:06:29 > 0:06:33levels of crime during the recession. This is the beginning of
0:06:33 > 0:06:41a new trend to show crime is rising as the recession starts. But part
0:06:41 > 0:06:45eg because of growing unemployment -- parlay that is due. There are
0:06:45 > 0:06:52reductions in expenditure and reductions in spending on crime and
0:06:52 > 0:06:58justice. What can people do about it? I know the police have been
0:06:59 > 0:07:06trying hard to ensure the rise is stopped. That is often undertaken
0:07:06 > 0:07:12by prolific offenders, we need to tackle in the longer term drugs and
0:07:12 > 0:07:18alcohol and performance in prison to make sure they do not reoffend.
0:07:18 > 0:07:23I know the police are keen to focus on those prolific regular offenders.
0:07:23 > 0:07:30Burglary rates were falling and has holders might be less alert to this
0:07:30 > 0:07:35crime. Crime overall fell by 43% over 13 years. We're now seeing,
0:07:35 > 0:07:39despite the best efforts of the police, a rise in burglary and
0:07:39 > 0:07:43personal crime. People need to be vigilant, take steps in their home
0:07:44 > 0:07:47to mark their equipment and locked windows and doors. The police need
0:07:47 > 0:07:52to look at regular offenders to make sure they are not committing a
0:07:52 > 0:07:57repeat offences. All of us need to ensure we improve the levels of
0:07:57 > 0:08:01funding for police. You mention the funding and cuts. The government
0:08:01 > 0:08:07argue they are cutting back office functions not officers, is there a
0:08:07 > 0:08:11connection between spending on police and crime? I will let the
0:08:11 > 0:08:16viewers make up their own mind. Police officers have been lost in
0:08:16 > 0:08:25Wales, there are 4,000 fewer police officers on the street than a year
0:08:25 > 0:08:28ago. I think people in Wales will recognise fewer police means more
0:08:28 > 0:08:34difficult challenges insuring with police effectively. The police are
0:08:34 > 0:08:38doing a great job but with few of them, it is difficult.
0:08:38 > 0:08:41government argued there is not enough money to keep funding the
0:08:41 > 0:08:46police to the levels previously, what would a Labour government do
0:08:46 > 0:08:51differently? We had plans to make savings and efficiencies in back
0:08:51 > 0:08:56office staff. The government are cutting a 20% of the police budget
0:08:56 > 0:09:00this year, last year and next year. It is not sustainable. We need to
0:09:00 > 0:09:05invest more in the police and give strength to local people to take
0:09:05 > 0:09:11action. The Government's strategy will not help reduce the burglary
0:09:11 > 0:09:14despite the great efforts of police. David Hanson, thank you very much.
0:09:14 > 0:09:19The Conservative AM, Byron Davies spent many years in the police and
0:09:19 > 0:09:26used to be part of the UK National Crime Squad. He's with me now.
0:09:26 > 0:09:30Thank you for joining us. Reading back what David Hanson raised,
0:09:30 > 0:09:34because of the UK Government's cuts, there are fewer police officers on
0:09:34 > 0:09:39the street, less spending on community safety and a reduction in
0:09:39 > 0:09:47the overall spending on crime. He says it is on your watch and puts
0:09:47 > 0:09:51the blame on the UK government cuts to budgets. It comes as no surprise.
0:09:51 > 0:09:57Let me say burglary is a very unpleasant, especially residential
0:09:57 > 0:10:02burglary. We have had to deal with a situation where we have two
0:10:02 > 0:10:07thirds of the police force on the streets patrolling, the rest are in
0:10:07 > 0:10:11back-office jobs. We have had to release those people. It is a case
0:10:11 > 0:10:17of getting people back on the streets patrolling which is where
0:10:17 > 0:10:22police officers should be. Is that going to happen? 283 fewer police
0:10:22 > 0:10:27officers in Wales in the last year alone. It will be difficult,
0:10:27 > 0:10:33getting to grips is not easy. course it will be difficult but the
0:10:33 > 0:10:38fact is the public expect value for money. We are in or austere times.
0:10:38 > 0:10:44It is about getting police sitting in offices out on the street
0:10:44 > 0:10:47patrolling. The object of any force is on the streets patrolling.
0:10:47 > 0:10:52paperwork has to be done by somebody, if you have few officers,
0:10:52 > 0:10:59somebody has to do those back office functions. Indeed but I have
0:10:59 > 0:11:07to say this government has ensured the paperwork is reduced. Something
0:11:07 > 0:11:15like 70 forms had to be completed a for a burglary, that is going out
0:11:15 > 0:11:19of the window. These targets are finished. Looking at the 20%
0:11:20 > 0:11:23increase in burglary over the last year in Wales, to what extent can
0:11:23 > 0:11:29that be attributed to the recession, we are living in difficult times
0:11:29 > 0:11:35and you're likely to see the theft and burglary go up? You do get
0:11:35 > 0:11:40these spikes as was pointed out in the interview. The point is
0:11:40 > 0:11:47burglary, I would be silly to say it is related to the current
0:11:47 > 0:11:51financial crisis but there is no excuse for it. As I say, it is
0:11:51 > 0:11:56about being out there, good intelligence and arresting these
0:11:56 > 0:12:01people. One of the big ideas of the UK government is elected police
0:12:01 > 0:12:06commissioners, how will that help? Enormously. They would take the
0:12:06 > 0:12:13bureaucracy at the bottom have at the moment, we have people directly
0:12:13 > 0:12:19elected by the people and police pals will be representing the local
0:12:19 > 0:12:24authorities and people and they will feed their views up to chief
0:12:24 > 0:12:27Constable's directly. Thank you for joining us this evening. Today we
0:12:27 > 0:12:30learnt that Cardiff has been unsuccessful in its bid to bring
0:12:30 > 0:12:33the UK Government's three billion pound Green Investment Bank to the
0:12:33 > 0:12:35city. It was announced this morning that the headquarters will be in
0:12:35 > 0:12:38Edinburgh. The Enterprise Minister, Edwina Hart, had lobbied UK
0:12:38 > 0:12:40ministers to bring the bank to Cardiff which the Welsh Government
0:12:40 > 0:12:50has designated its Financial and Professional Services Enterprise
0:12:50 > 0:12:58
0:12:58 > 0:13:03The aim is to create a central business district attracting top
0:13:03 > 0:13:12financial institutions to Cardiff. The City employs 50,000 people in
0:13:12 > 0:13:18the sector making up 124,000 across Wales providing financial services.
0:13:18 > 0:13:23The government wants an increase of 200,000. It will pay a -- play a
0:13:24 > 0:13:29key part. It is the closest capital city to London but that is the
0:13:29 > 0:13:36headline. The reality is our ability to bring the organisations
0:13:36 > 0:13:40into Cardiff is dependent on the people. The government is
0:13:40 > 0:13:45establishing a Green Investment Bank to have �3 billion of public
0:13:45 > 0:13:50money to spend on energy schemes. Cardiff was one of 32 areas bidding
0:13:50 > 0:13:53to host the headquarters of the new body which will invest in recycling
0:13:54 > 0:14:00facilities. The UK government announced it would be based in
0:14:00 > 0:14:03Edinburgh. The minister says she is disappointed the bid to bring the
0:14:03 > 0:14:07bank to Cardiff has been unsuccessful. She says she pressed
0:14:07 > 0:14:12the case with the business Secretary Vince Cable but says
0:14:12 > 0:14:16there will be other opportunities for Welsh companies. There is so
0:14:16 > 0:14:20much more you could do to have secured the investment bank. I was
0:14:20 > 0:14:25in Westminster before Christmas and one of the rival bids was hosting a
0:14:25 > 0:14:31parliamentary reception with a glossy brochure and people going to
0:14:31 > 0:14:36put the case for that city. The Welsh government hasn't done any of
0:14:36 > 0:14:46that for Cardiff. Sources say it Cardiff did not make it into the
0:14:46 > 0:14:46
0:14:46 > 0:14:53Scotland to have more financial services and a historic base of
0:14:53 > 0:14:56them. We are not alone in that. Other regions are also trying to
0:14:56 > 0:14:59latch onto this high-value industry, so it is about improving our
0:14:59 > 0:15:04offering said that competition really does not faze us, because at
0:15:04 > 0:15:08the moment I think we are being competed out of the market.
0:15:08 > 0:15:13An adviser to the Welsh government says the public and private sectors
0:15:13 > 0:15:16are now working together to make Cardiff a successful centre.
0:15:16 > 0:15:20The government has put it at the top of its agenda to support
0:15:20 > 0:15:24organisations which bring jobs into Wales. In the last three weeks,
0:15:24 > 0:15:29there have been at three large investments, all of which have been
0:15:29 > 0:15:32supported by the government, and which have been recommended by the
0:15:32 > 0:15:36panel of Ministers. Edwina Hart would not be
0:15:36 > 0:15:40interviewed by this programme. Critics say the Welsh government is
0:15:41 > 0:15:45sending out the wrong message to financial institutions.
0:15:45 > 0:15:48The errors something hypocritical to try and get those who engage in
0:15:48 > 0:15:53financial activity to come to Cardiff and generate income locally
0:15:53 > 0:15:57and to spend their money, to then actually say that we support a
0:15:57 > 0:16:00financial transaction tax. Even more worrying is that when the
0:16:00 > 0:16:05Welsh Labour government said they supported a financial transaction
0:16:05 > 0:16:09tax, something which the UK Labour Party doesn't, it is a quite
0:16:10 > 0:16:14bizarre step -- step to take, it is not be positive message you want to
0:16:14 > 0:16:19put out their. This Plaid Cymru adviser says more
0:16:19 > 0:16:24needs to be done. One of the things I have pledged
0:16:24 > 0:16:30the Welsh government to do is to establish stronger relationships
0:16:30 > 0:16:34with the venture capital community in London. We have not done that.
0:16:34 > 0:16:38Missing out on the Green Investment Bank may be a blow, but it is also
0:16:38 > 0:16:43being reported that another big employer, Legal and General, may be
0:16:43 > 0:16:47backing out of an agreement to create a business district around
0:16:47 > 0:16:50the station. Those working in the financial
0:16:50 > 0:16:55services sector in Cardiff say the city will have to keep building for
0:16:55 > 0:17:03the future in order to attract companies in.
0:17:03 > 0:17:07Less discusses with the leader of Cardiff council. First of all,
0:17:08 > 0:17:12Rodney, the fact that the Green Investment Bank will be located in
0:17:12 > 0:17:17Edinburgh rather than Cardiff, how much of the losses that?
0:17:17 > 0:17:23Clearly it is disappointing, but we still have a very clear plans for
0:17:23 > 0:17:26our central business district. It took us some time to persuade the
0:17:26 > 0:17:32Welsh government to back that up by giving us enterprise zone status,
0:17:33 > 0:17:38but we will very much continue with these plans. As was highlighted in
0:17:38 > 0:17:44the report, the financial sector is very important to Cardiff's economy.
0:17:44 > 0:17:48It employs about a quarter of our workforce, it produces 30% of our
0:17:48 > 0:17:52economic output. We have been growing our financial services
0:17:52 > 0:17:59sector in recent times, despite the economic downturn, so we can have
0:17:59 > 0:18:03confidence that we can move ahead. Looking at what was said there that
0:18:03 > 0:18:07it took some time for Cardiff to get enterprise zone status, to what
0:18:07 > 0:18:11extent do you think the Welsh government was dragging its heels?
0:18:11 > 0:18:16The UK government announced these months before the Welsh government
0:18:16 > 0:18:19said we will follow suit? I do not think there is anything in
0:18:20 > 0:18:23that at all. We have the only business enterprise zone anywhere
0:18:23 > 0:18:28in the country, in the centre of Cardiff. That is a unique selling
0:18:28 > 0:18:30point. I agree with probably about the fat that we are very
0:18:30 > 0:18:39disappointed that the Green Investment Bank will not come to
0:18:39 > 0:18:46Cardiff. -- I agree with properly. What about the fact that enterprise
0:18:46 > 0:18:51zones are targeted at specific industries? Anglesey is an energy
0:18:51 > 0:18:57area. In England, an enterprise zone is an enterprise zone, and you
0:18:57 > 0:19:01cannot attract what you want. We know that has failed in the past.
0:19:01 > 0:19:05It failed in the 1980s in Swansea. If you have a general enterprise
0:19:05 > 0:19:09zone, all you end up doing is sucking into that part of the city
0:19:09 > 0:19:14businesses that otherwise would be located outside it. We are very
0:19:14 > 0:19:18clear that we want specialist zones to avoid that problem, and to be
0:19:18 > 0:19:21able to concentrate and build on the strength of an area. The
0:19:21 > 0:19:25strength in the centre of Cardiff are very different to Anglesey, and
0:19:25 > 0:19:30we want to play to the strength of an area.
0:19:30 > 0:19:33Would you prefer to see a broader approach to attracting a group of
0:19:33 > 0:19:38companies rather than targeting financial companies?
0:19:38 > 0:19:41It would have given us more scope. Having said that, I do not think it
0:19:41 > 0:19:45is the be-all and end-all of everything. We are clear that we
0:19:45 > 0:19:48are not looking to sucking jobs from elsewhere in Wales. We are
0:19:48 > 0:19:52looking to get the kind of firms that will come to Cardiff that
0:19:52 > 0:19:56would not go to any other part of Wales. We are looking at competing
0:19:56 > 0:19:59with other cities in England to get these jobs, so I am not that
0:19:59 > 0:20:05bothered about the argument about displacing jobs from elsewhere in
0:20:05 > 0:20:12Wales. As we heard about Legal and General.
0:20:12 > 0:20:17How confident are you about their future will -- future in the City?
0:20:17 > 0:20:21We are looking at plans for various parts of our district. We are
0:20:21 > 0:20:26discussing plans with employers, and this is still ongoing. We are
0:20:27 > 0:20:30confident they will remain. There seems to be a lack of detail
0:20:30 > 0:20:37in terms of what can be offered by these enterprise zones. We do not
0:20:37 > 0:20:45know what a company will be getting. That is not the case in England.
0:20:45 > 0:20:49We are no different. But you get answers sooner England.
0:20:49 > 0:20:53We will deliver in the same way, and such uncertainties apply
0:20:53 > 0:20:55equally in England as they do in Wales.
0:20:55 > 0:20:59Is there a problem in the relationship with the UK government
0:20:59 > 0:21:03and the Welsh government, which has been fraught over the last few
0:21:03 > 0:21:09months? I do not think that is true. Edwina
0:21:09 > 0:21:14Hart was in London speaking to Vince Cable about this decision.
0:21:14 > 0:21:18She was meeting chief executives and chairs of companies. I think
0:21:18 > 0:21:23when it comes to making decisions, and Real Business, the relationship
0:21:23 > 0:21:28between Wales at Westminster is still strong. -- Wales and
0:21:28 > 0:21:32Westminster. Almost 300 workers at Remploy
0:21:32 > 0:21:36factories in Wales are at risk of losing their jobs. It is because
0:21:36 > 0:21:40the UK government has decided to stop funding seven of the nine
0:21:41 > 0:21:44factories working here. They are unlikely to achieve financial
0:21:44 > 0:21:47viability without government support. The move has angered many
0:21:47 > 0:21:54politicians, who claim it is going to be tough for Remploy workers to
0:21:54 > 0:21:58get jobs elsewhere. My question is, yes, I want to see
0:21:58 > 0:22:02disabled people being mainstream and having jobs that they want, but
0:22:02 > 0:22:06where are they? It is a sad state of affairs.
0:22:06 > 0:22:09An independent review which recommended that government funding
0:22:09 > 0:22:14should support individuals rather than subsidising factory businesses
0:22:14 > 0:22:18formed the basis of this decision. The Minister for Disabled People,
0:22:18 > 0:22:20Maria Miller, says the thundering - - funding going to have Remploy
0:22:20 > 0:22:25factories will be reinvested into other schemes to help disabled
0:22:25 > 0:22:30people find work. It is a decision that has been welcomed by some
0:22:30 > 0:22:35campaigners, including Rhian Davies, chief executive of Disability Wales,
0:22:35 > 0:22:38who was owed to me earlier. Looking at some of the workers and
0:22:38 > 0:22:42the headlines today, and what was said about the announcement, they
0:22:42 > 0:22:46said they felt shafted and disgusted, they really do not want
0:22:46 > 0:22:51this to go ahead. But I get the sense you do. Why are you welcoming
0:22:51 > 0:22:56this move? Disability Wales has long
0:22:56 > 0:22:59campaigned for a fully inclusive society, and the rights for -- of
0:22:59 > 0:23:03disabled people. At the opportunities for disabled people
0:23:03 > 0:23:07to work in mainstream jobs. However, are we do recognise that we are not
0:23:07 > 0:23:12living in an ideal world, and that for many disabled people, it is
0:23:13 > 0:23:18hard to get work. This is a very difficult jobs climate for all
0:23:18 > 0:23:24people, let alone disabled people. If I fully appreciate the concerns
0:23:24 > 0:23:28that many of the workers feel about the future, and this has been a
0:23:28 > 0:23:33very sudden decision in many ways. The future must be looking very
0:23:33 > 0:23:38bleak for many of those workers. One of the things I have heard is
0:23:38 > 0:23:41that it would be better for Remploy employees to work in more
0:23:41 > 0:23:47mainstream work forces. How difficult will that be, considering
0:23:47 > 0:23:51it is tight economic times? There are many obstacles and
0:23:51 > 0:23:56barriers to disabled people attaining work, things like skills
0:23:56 > 0:24:01and qualifications, workplace barriers like access, transport
0:24:01 > 0:24:05barriers, and also employer attitudes. Disability Wales and
0:24:05 > 0:24:09other organisations have worked hard for many years to campaign for
0:24:09 > 0:24:13those to be tackled, but we are still a long way from achieving
0:24:13 > 0:24:18that, so again, for workers and other disabled people seeking work
0:24:19 > 0:24:22in the mainstream, it is a tough one to get into.
0:24:22 > 0:24:25This is not the worst possible time to make an announcement about
0:24:25 > 0:24:30pulling the funding for Remploy factories?
0:24:30 > 0:24:35It is an extremely tough time. There has been a question over
0:24:35 > 0:24:38Remploy as a business, as a brand for 20 years. Successive
0:24:39 > 0:24:44governments have talked about closing down. This one has taken
0:24:44 > 0:24:49that step, but obviously it is that the worst possible time for all
0:24:49 > 0:24:53people, and especially disabled people.
0:24:53 > 0:24:58The government say they may keep them as a going concern. How viable
0:24:58 > 0:25:03do think these seven factories are? I do not have detailed knowledge,
0:25:03 > 0:25:07but I think what is important is that there is a consultation with
0:25:07 > 0:25:12the employees themselves, who were no better than anyone the business,
0:25:12 > 0:25:15the opportunities, local contacts. At what Disability Wales would be
0:25:15 > 0:25:19interested in seeing is whether there is opportunities for disabled
0:25:19 > 0:25:22people, those workers, to take over those factories themselves, to be
0:25:22 > 0:25:25in control of them and make those decisions with the support to
0:25:25 > 0:25:29enable that to happen. For those workers who are facing
0:25:29 > 0:25:33losing their jobs, what would be your message? What can the UK
0:25:33 > 0:25:38government do for the now? I think every effort has to be made
0:25:38 > 0:25:44to support the workers. This is no fault of their row. We need to look
0:25:44 > 0:25:54at retraining, skills, jobs are bored, poaching, contact with local
0:25:54 > 0:25:54
0:25:54 > 0:25:59businesses. For those who do not feel that is the right option.
0:25:59 > 0:26:02Thank you for joining us tonight. You have probably noticed it has
0:26:02 > 0:26:08been international Women's Day today, and we have honoured that by
0:26:08 > 0:26:13having a man presenting, but Felicity will be back! It is women
0:26:13 > 0:26:18in politics will be talking about now with Betsan Powys. We are going
0:26:18 > 0:26:28to discuss a possible fall in the number of women's politician --
0:26:28 > 0:26:28
0:26:28 > 0:26:32women politicians. It is an issue which is concerning.
0:26:32 > 0:26:36People are concerned with Welsh politics and the representation of
0:26:36 > 0:26:40women in it. It is a bit of a water if game, but I think it is worth
0:26:40 > 0:26:47getting. The assembly, what do people know about the number of
0:26:47 > 0:26:54women in the assembly? There was a point where it was 5050, the first
0:26:54 > 0:26:59legislature in the world where it was done in that way, but the
0:26:59 > 0:27:04number has come down a bit. There is a hope it might rise again in
0:27:04 > 0:27:112016. But look at boundary changes and Westminster, and start playing
0:27:11 > 0:27:20that game. It is a real game of questions, because we do not know
0:27:20 > 0:27:30what will happen. There is a possibility that Susan Ellen Jones
0:27:30 > 0:27:31
0:27:31 > 0:27:34will lose. What if that were to cut across the Jessica Mordon? Other
0:27:34 > 0:27:39politicians may be standing down, and suddenly you start to find that
0:27:39 > 0:27:42the number of women represented from Wales would start to fall. And
0:27:42 > 0:27:51there is a concern that parties they to spot that early and try and
0:27:51 > 0:27:57consider what they might do about He is the rare thing they can do?
0:27:57 > 0:28:02-- is there anything they can do? They can, and the Labour and Plaid
0:28:02 > 0:28:07Cymru have done a lot of good in that regard. But what if Alan
0:28:07 > 0:28:17Michael becomes a police commissioner? Then there will be a
0:28:17 > 0:28:17
0:28:17 > 0:28:23contest for his seat in a you cannot have an all-women shortlist.
0:28:23 > 0:28:29-- in Penarth. The parties might want to do something about it, but