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0:00:03 > 0:00:06- You get a fantastic buzz - from living a double life.
0:00:07 > 0:00:09- A very, very dangerous man.
0:00:11 > 0:00:13- Nothing to say?
0:00:15 > 0:00:16- It's so sad.
0:00:19 > 0:00:20- A real eye-opener.
0:00:27 > 0:00:30- My name is Sion Jenkins.
0:00:30 > 0:00:34- In this series, I examine - some of the hot topics of our age.
0:00:35 > 0:00:38- I'll shed light - on the darker corners of society...
0:00:38 > 0:00:43- ..and experience for myself - the stories that shape our world.
0:00:47 > 0:00:50- Las Vegas, one of the USA's - most famous cities...
0:00:51 > 0:00:54- ..where millions of tourists - flock every year...
0:00:54 > 0:00:59- ..to the sumptuous hotels, the grand - casinos and the unique atmosphere.
0:01:04 > 0:01:07- But after the biggest massacre - in US history...
0:01:07 > 0:01:12- ..I'm here to learn more about - a subject that splits this country.
0:01:12 > 0:01:13- The gun laws.
0:01:23 > 0:01:28- On 1 October last year, - 22,000 people had gathered...
0:01:28 > 0:01:32- ..to enjoy a music festival - on Las Vegas' famous Strip.
0:01:32 > 0:01:36- As the festival drew to a close, - a man called Stephen Paddock...
0:01:36 > 0:01:41- ..opened fire on the crowd from - his room at the Mandalay Bay Hotel.
0:01:42 > 0:01:44- AUTOMATIC GUNFIRE
0:02:01 > 0:02:05- He killed 58 people, - and 546 were injured.
0:02:06 > 0:02:09- One of those present - was Anthony Robone.
0:02:09 > 0:02:13- He was there with his girlfriend - and his brother, Nick...
0:02:13 > 0:02:17- ..who had been given festival - tickets as a birthday present.
0:02:17 > 0:02:20- So, this is it, - this is where it happened.
0:02:20 > 0:02:22- This is where it happened.
0:02:24 > 0:02:27- It's Anthony's first time back here.
0:02:27 > 0:02:29- Was that the stage?
0:02:31 > 0:02:35- What was your initial reaction - when you first heard the gunshots?
0:02:35 > 0:02:38- Originally, - we thought it was firecrackers.
0:02:38 > 0:02:40- We didn't think much of it.
0:02:40 > 0:02:43- It's fine, it's not gunshots, - it isn't real.
0:02:43 > 0:02:47- As I'm saying that, - the third round goes off.
0:02:47 > 0:02:49- Someone behind me said, "I got hit."
0:02:49 > 0:02:53- I turned around and saw - that my brother had been wounded.
0:02:53 > 0:02:56- He was spitting up blood - and bleeding from his shirt.
0:02:57 > 0:02:59- OK, this is real, - we've got to get out of here.
0:03:00 > 0:03:04- When he had been shot, - what went through your head?
0:03:06 > 0:03:08- I was scared to death, you know.
0:03:08 > 0:03:12- Not in the sense of, - is anyone else going to get hit...
0:03:12 > 0:03:14- ..just the sense that he's injured.
0:03:14 > 0:03:18- That's the biggest worry, - making sure he's OK.
0:03:18 > 0:03:23- But he's tough as nails, - one of the toughest guys I know.
0:03:23 > 0:03:28- If anyone will get through a gunshot - to the chest, it's my brother.
0:03:28 > 0:03:33- Nick did survive, but the scars - remain, both physical and mental.
0:03:38 > 0:03:43- Since the shooting, - many memorials have been set up.
0:03:43 > 0:03:46- They put faces - to the horrors of 1 October.
0:03:49 > 0:03:53- As you can see, - there are 58 crosses here...
0:03:53 > 0:03:58- ..to commemorate - those who died on 1 October.
0:04:00 > 0:04:03- It includes - over 30,000 individual items...
0:04:04 > 0:04:08- ..and was moved from its original - location on the Las Vegas Strip.
0:04:10 > 0:04:12- This is a book of condolence...
0:04:13 > 0:04:16- ..for people to pay tribute - to those who died.
0:04:17 > 0:04:20- This is quite powerful too.
0:04:21 > 0:04:22- A child, maybe.
0:04:22 > 0:04:26- "Dear Quinton, I miss you so much. - I can't wait to see you again.
0:04:26 > 0:04:30- "You were such a bright soul - and I loved you with all my heart.
0:04:30 > 0:04:34- "I can't wait to see you again - and give you a super big hug...
0:04:34 > 0:04:38- "..and I will be able to finally - tell you I love you again."
0:04:39 > 0:04:45- There are also contributions - from survivors of that night.
0:04:45 > 0:04:47- This is from Crystal.
0:04:47 > 0:04:51- "That night will forever be - one of my worst nightmares...
0:04:51 > 0:04:54- "..but also one of the most amazing - nights of humanity I've ever seen."
0:04:54 > 0:04:57- Among the messages on the crosses...
0:04:57 > 0:05:01- ..are many from the loved ones - of those who died.
0:05:01 > 0:05:04- There's one very powerful one there.
0:05:05 > 0:05:07- "Dad, my heart is forever broken.
0:05:07 > 0:05:09- "I loved everything about you.
0:05:09 > 0:05:13- "No words can explain - how much I love you and adore you.
0:05:14 > 0:05:16- "I love you - with every ounce of strength.
0:05:16 > 0:05:21- "Thank you for being my dad. Your - son and best friend, Christian."
0:05:26 > 0:05:30- Reading something like that, - from a son to his father...
0:05:30 > 0:05:33- ..makes you think - about losing your own father.
0:05:54 > 0:05:58- Today, I'm meeting a family - from Las Vegas...
0:05:59 > 0:06:02- ..to ask their opinion - of America's gun laws.
0:06:03 > 0:06:06- Regulations vary - from state to state...
0:06:06 > 0:06:09- ..but Nevada's - are among the most lax.
0:06:10 > 0:06:12- You don't need a permit - to own a gun...
0:06:12 > 0:06:15- ..you don't need - to register weapons...
0:06:16 > 0:06:19- ..and there's no limit - on how many guns one person can buy.
0:06:22 > 0:06:23- Hiya.
0:06:23 > 0:06:24- Hello, how are you?
0:06:24 > 0:06:25- Hello, how are you?- - Catrin, is it?
0:06:25 > 0:06:27- It's nice to meet you. Are you OK?
0:06:27 > 0:06:28- It's nice to meet you. Are you OK?- - Fine, thanks.
0:06:29 > 0:06:34- Only one of the Turners - was born in Wales...
0:06:34 > 0:06:37- ..but Welsh is still - the language of the home.
0:06:37 > 0:06:39- Here we all are. This is my father.
0:06:39 > 0:06:41- Here we all are. This is my father.- - Hello. Nice to meet you.
0:06:41 > 0:06:44- My brother, Micah, - and my sister Anya.
0:06:45 > 0:06:48- My other brother, Joshua, - and my mother, Gwennan.
0:06:49 > 0:06:52- How long have you lived - in Las Vegas?
0:06:52 > 0:06:55- We've lived here three times.
0:06:55 > 0:06:58- A total of ten years.
0:06:58 > 0:06:59- We've moved a lot.
0:07:00 > 0:07:05- Keith's in the US Air Force, - which means that we move often.
0:07:05 > 0:07:07- You clearly enjoy being out here.
0:07:07 > 0:07:08- You clearly enjoy being out here.- - Yes, I love it.
0:07:09 > 0:07:14- Catrin is 19 years old, - and was born in England.
0:07:14 > 0:07:17- Her family moved to America - when she was two.
0:07:17 > 0:07:21- She has spent most of her life - here in Vegas.
0:07:21 > 0:07:26- How did you react - to the events of 1 October?
0:07:26 > 0:07:28- The shooting at the Mandalay Bay.
0:07:28 > 0:07:30- How did you react?
0:07:31 > 0:07:33- It was really shocking, I mean.
0:07:34 > 0:07:38- It happened 35 minutes away.
0:07:38 > 0:07:42- It was at night, - and the whole family got up.
0:07:42 > 0:07:44- The phones were engaged.
0:07:44 > 0:07:46- We went through social media.
0:07:46 > 0:07:48- Oh my days, this happened here.
0:07:48 > 0:07:52- Hundreds of people texted us, - messaged us, to check we were OK.
0:07:54 > 0:07:59- Since the shooting, some have called - for gun laws to be tightened...
0:07:59 > 0:08:03- ..and limiting how many guns - one person can buy.
0:08:04 > 0:08:09- Do you think - that stricter gun laws in America...
0:08:09 > 0:08:13- ..could have prevented - what happened at the Mandalay Bay?
0:08:14 > 0:08:17- Um, to be honest, no.
0:08:17 > 0:08:20- People might find that shocking.
0:08:20 > 0:08:23- Of course it would stop everything.
0:08:23 > 0:08:24- But really, no.
0:08:24 > 0:08:29- It's not the fact - that guns killed all those people.
0:08:30 > 0:08:31- That's not why it happened.
0:08:32 > 0:08:34- It was the man behind it.
0:08:34 > 0:08:37- It was his evil idea.
0:08:38 > 0:08:42- But Catrin's mother, - who grew up in Wales...
0:08:42 > 0:08:45- ..finds it harder - to accept America's gun culture.
0:08:48 > 0:08:51- Things like that - don't happen often, obviously.
0:08:52 > 0:08:55- It was very close to our home.
0:08:56 > 0:08:58- Very close to people we know.
0:08:58 > 0:09:03- It was just a shock, - the biggest shock being the number.
0:09:04 > 0:09:07- Just how many people - were killed and injured...
0:09:08 > 0:09:12- ..and that nothing - could have been done to prevent it.
0:09:13 > 0:09:14- It was terrible.
0:09:14 > 0:09:17- Are you in favour - of stricter gun laws?
0:09:18 > 0:09:19- Certainly.
0:09:19 > 0:09:23- A lot of people argue - that it wouldn't work anyway.
0:09:23 > 0:09:28- That perpetrators of mass shootings - have something wrong with them.
0:09:28 > 0:09:32- But generally, I think - stricter laws would be beneficial.
0:09:32 > 0:09:37- Maybe then, over time, - within a century even...
0:09:37 > 0:09:41- ..it might be more applicable - to get rid of guns completely.
0:09:47 > 0:09:51- Almost 300 people were working - at the music festival...
0:09:51 > 0:09:53- ..at the time of the shooting.
0:09:54 > 0:09:59- I met one of them, Heather Gooze, - at a community memorial garden.
0:10:00 > 0:10:01- Hi, Heather. How are you?
0:10:01 > 0:10:03- Good. How are you?
0:10:03 > 0:10:04- Good to see you.
0:10:05 > 0:10:08- That night, she was working - behind one of the bars.
0:10:09 > 0:10:11- But as the bullets hit...
0:10:11 > 0:10:15- ..she found herself - trying to save lives.
0:10:16 > 0:10:20- This was Jordan's Facebook picture, - him and his girlfriend, Amber.
0:10:20 > 0:10:21- He's the one...
0:10:23 > 0:10:26- I was with him, - and he didn't make it...
0:10:26 > 0:10:28- ..and I stayed with him.
0:10:28 > 0:10:29- So, he's...
0:10:30 > 0:10:32- ..even more than anything else.
0:10:33 > 0:10:35- ..I'm not a husband or wife...
0:10:35 > 0:10:38- ..I'm not a best friend, - I'm not a girlfriend.
0:10:38 > 0:10:42- I'm a perfect stranger who has - a connection to this person...
0:10:42 > 0:10:44- ..that I'll never ever not have.
0:10:46 > 0:10:50- This is Chris Hazencomb, - out of California.
0:10:50 > 0:10:55- He got brought out - on a barrier gate...
0:10:55 > 0:10:58- ..that they were using as gurneys.
0:10:58 > 0:11:00- We were holding - the back of his head.
0:11:00 > 0:11:04- At one point, I had my finger - in the bullet hole...
0:11:04 > 0:11:06- ..trying to stop the bleeding.
0:11:06 > 0:11:10- He got taken to the hospital, - he didn't make it.
0:11:11 > 0:11:15- Does what happened - make you change our mind...
0:11:15 > 0:11:18- ..or reconsider your opinion - on guns at all?
0:11:19 > 0:11:22- In my opinion, - and in a lot of people's opinion...
0:11:22 > 0:11:25- ..guns don't kill people, - it's people that kill people.
0:11:26 > 0:11:29- There are circumstances where guns - have to be there, be allowed.
0:11:29 > 0:11:32- But they should be regulated - way more carefully.
0:11:32 > 0:11:36- But you still believe in the right - to bear arms, despite what you saw?
0:11:36 > 0:11:40- I believe in it as long as - there are stricter policies...
0:11:40 > 0:11:44- ..and much stricter background - checks and reasons for it.
0:11:44 > 0:11:49- I don't think that anybody should be - able to just walk in and get a gun.
0:11:49 > 0:11:52- I don't even think - that just any person...
0:11:52 > 0:11:56- ..should be allowed to walk - into a shooting range and rent one.
0:11:59 > 0:12:02- But, after the break, - that's just what I'll be doing.
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0:12:17 > 0:12:19- I'm in Las Vegas to find out more...
0:12:20 > 0:12:24- ..about one of the hot topics - of US culture - guns.
0:12:26 > 0:12:30- I've heard about a Welshman - who was in the US armed forces...
0:12:30 > 0:12:33- ..who has adopted - the American way of life.
0:12:35 > 0:12:38- This afternoon, - I'm meeting Gwyn Davies.
0:12:38 > 0:12:40- Originally from Bethesda...
0:12:40 > 0:12:44- ..he has lived here in Las Vegas - since 1992.
0:12:44 > 0:12:48- He keeps guns, - and I want to ask him why.
0:12:51 > 0:12:52- Hello?
0:12:52 > 0:12:54- Gwyn, how are you?
0:12:54 > 0:12:56- It's nice to meet you.
0:12:56 > 0:12:57- It's nice to meet you.- - Sion, come in.
0:13:01 > 0:13:04- Your guns are out here today.
0:13:04 > 0:13:05- Today, yes.
0:13:05 > 0:13:06- It's lovely.
0:13:06 > 0:13:08- It's lovely.- - Yes, why not?
0:13:12 > 0:13:15- What have we got here?
0:13:16 > 0:13:19- That's a Heckler & Koch handgun.
0:13:19 > 0:13:22- You certainly couldn't - have one of these in Wales.
0:13:22 > 0:13:25- No, not at all. Not any of them.
0:13:26 > 0:13:28- Is it just the three that you have?
0:13:29 > 0:13:33- I used to have more, but I've kept - the three that are useful to me.
0:13:34 > 0:13:36- Why are they useful?
0:13:36 > 0:13:38- A bit of sport, a bit of fun.
0:13:39 > 0:13:41- What are these two?
0:13:41 > 0:13:44- Another two that I've kept - over the years.
0:13:44 > 0:13:47- None of them are loaded, as I said.
0:13:49 > 0:13:50- Squirrels.
0:13:50 > 0:13:51- Right, yes.
0:13:51 > 0:13:53- So, you hunt with this gun?
0:13:53 > 0:13:56- It's a very small bullet, - .22 calibre.
0:13:57 > 0:14:00- Long round, doesn't go far.
0:14:01 > 0:14:03- Just a little over 100 yards.
0:14:03 > 0:14:06- This one looks quite something.
0:14:06 > 0:14:10- This is the rifle - that I used in the army.
0:14:10 > 0:14:11- This actual rifle?
0:14:12 > 0:14:14- Yes, an M4 carbine.
0:14:14 > 0:14:15- The difference...
0:14:16 > 0:14:20- The difference between - an army rifle and this one...
0:14:21 > 0:14:27- It's safe now, it won't fire - while we're handling it...
0:14:28 > 0:14:30- Two options, safety and single shot.
0:14:30 > 0:14:35- In the army, there's a third option - which is a little bit more fun!
0:14:36 > 0:14:37- More dangerous.
0:14:37 > 0:14:40- You can watch the money - being spent faster.
0:14:42 > 0:14:46- Gwyn lives about 15 minutes away - from the Mandalay Bay Hotel.
0:14:46 > 0:14:49- This is where he heard - about the shooting.
0:14:49 > 0:14:53- What was your reaction - to the events in Las Vegas?
0:14:53 > 0:14:55- He hadn't broken the law.
0:14:55 > 0:14:58- There was no reason - to keep watch on him.
0:14:58 > 0:15:02- He went berserk, - he wasn't in his right mind.
0:15:02 > 0:15:06- No-one can harm others without - something being wrong up here.
0:15:09 > 0:15:12- During the year - before the shooting...
0:15:12 > 0:15:16- ..Stephen Paddock bought 33 guns, - entirely legally.
0:15:16 > 0:15:20- 23 were found in Paddock's room - at the Mandalay Bay.
0:15:21 > 0:15:26- Even so, Gwyn doesn't think stricter - laws would have made a difference.
0:15:28 > 0:15:31- I don't know how they would have - caught him, to be honest.
0:15:32 > 0:15:33- That's the thing.
0:15:33 > 0:15:34- If he was going to...
0:15:36 > 0:15:38- If he was evil enough - to want to hurt people...
0:15:39 > 0:15:40- ..he'd find a way.
0:15:40 > 0:15:45- The guns weren't the problem, - the man was the problem, I think.
0:15:47 > 0:15:52- But for thousands of Americans, - like Gwyn, shooting is fun.
0:15:53 > 0:15:55- A gun is a plaything, not a weapon.
0:15:56 > 0:15:58- I tell people - it's like playing golf.
0:15:58 > 0:15:59- Really?
0:15:59 > 0:16:01- Really?- - I've played golf.
0:16:01 > 0:16:06- All the day's events...
0:16:06 > 0:16:08- ..have to be cleared - from your mind.
0:16:08 > 0:16:13- With golf, it's just you, - the ball and the club.
0:16:13 > 0:16:17- With this, it's just me, - my gun and the target.
0:16:18 > 0:16:21- Some people in Wales - join a choir, but you...
0:16:21 > 0:16:23- Have you heard my voice?!
0:16:24 > 0:16:25- I break windows!
0:16:28 > 0:16:31- Do you keep them - to shoot an intruder, for example?
0:16:32 > 0:16:35- No, if someone broke in - at two in the morning...
0:16:35 > 0:16:38- ..they'd have to wrestle me - in my pants, God help them.
0:16:40 > 0:16:45- Meeting a Welshman in Las Vegas - who keeps such guns is surreal.
0:16:45 > 0:16:49- But I want to meet Americans - who grew up with this culture...
0:16:50 > 0:16:54- ..and who believe passionately - in their right to bear arms.
0:16:55 > 0:16:58- The Clark County Shooting Complex...
0:16:59 > 0:17:02- ..is the USA's largest - public shooting facility...
0:17:03 > 0:17:06- ..set on 2,500 acres - on the outskirts of Las Vegas.
0:17:06 > 0:17:11- Don Turner, president - of the Nevada Firearms Coalition...
0:17:11 > 0:17:13- ..designed and developed the site.
0:17:14 > 0:17:19- Don is a prime defender of Nevadans' - rights to own and fire guns.
0:17:20 > 0:17:21- Hi, Don.
0:17:21 > 0:17:22- Hi, Don.- - Good morning.
0:17:22 > 0:17:26- Welcome to the Clark County - Shooting Complex.
0:17:26 > 0:17:29- Don promises to show me - the buzz of firing a gun.
0:17:30 > 0:17:33- I'd like to introduce you to Sion.
0:17:34 > 0:17:38- We've got two new folks here - that want to sign in and get a card.
0:17:39 > 0:17:42- Go in the dining room, if you like. - Highlighted portions only.
0:17:42 > 0:17:46- These safety cards are required - any time you're on the complex.
0:17:47 > 0:17:50- They do not expire. If you - don't have them, you won't shoot.
0:17:51 > 0:17:52- There we are.
0:17:53 > 0:17:56- I've been given a form to fill in...
0:17:56 > 0:18:00- ..before I'm allowed to fire a gun.
0:18:03 > 0:18:07- The only other thing I must do - before going outside...
0:18:07 > 0:18:10- ..is watch a safety video.
0:18:12 > 0:18:17- Don and Doug agree to show me - what the complex has to offer.
0:18:17 > 0:18:22- To warm up, they give me a shotgun - to sample clay pigeon shooting.
0:18:22 > 0:18:25- You're right-handed? - Take this like so.
0:18:25 > 0:18:28- On your shoulder, - that's where I want the gun.
0:18:28 > 0:18:29- Right there.
0:18:29 > 0:18:32- Bring this elbow up a bit more.
0:18:32 > 0:18:35- Take this hand and put it there...
0:18:35 > 0:18:39- ..and bring your cheek down - and put it on the comb.
0:18:39 > 0:18:40- That's what you want.
0:18:40 > 0:18:42- That's what you want.- - Will there be much recoil?
0:18:42 > 0:18:43- Not much at all.
0:18:43 > 0:18:46- Shoot one to get the feel for it.
0:18:46 > 0:18:47- Pull!
0:18:49 > 0:18:50- Just behind them.
0:18:53 > 0:18:54- Pull!
0:18:56 > 0:18:58- There are over 300 - shooting ranges in Nevada.
0:18:59 > 0:19:01- Shotguns may be legal in the UK...
0:19:01 > 0:19:05- ..but this is the first time - that I've fired a gun.
0:19:05 > 0:19:08- Soon, my competitive side - comes to the fore.
0:19:10 > 0:19:12- Pull!
0:19:14 > 0:19:15- There we go.
0:19:15 > 0:19:19- I want to prove - that wasn't a one-off.
0:19:20 > 0:19:21- Pull!
0:19:24 > 0:19:26- I think I'm doing OK.
0:19:26 > 0:19:28- I've hit four so far, I think.
0:19:29 > 0:19:31- Better than I expected.
0:19:31 > 0:19:32- Pull!
0:19:35 > 0:19:36- Yes!
0:19:45 > 0:19:49- The US Constitution - gives every individual...
0:19:49 > 0:19:51- ..the right to keep and bear arms.
0:19:52 > 0:19:56- But the Second Amendment - is very controversial...
0:19:56 > 0:19:59- ..and has been hotly debated - over the centuries.
0:20:03 > 0:20:04- It's a piece of legislation...
0:20:05 > 0:20:10- ..that Don Turner has spent his life - keenly supporting and defending.
0:20:17 > 0:20:20- Why are you pro the Second Amendment - here in the USA?
0:20:20 > 0:20:24- The answer is kind of complicated. - I'll try to simplify it.
0:20:24 > 0:20:27- When our founders - put the Constitution together...
0:20:28 > 0:20:31- ..they realized that the only thing - that keeps a government...
0:20:31 > 0:20:35- ..from exceeding its authority - is the citizens being armed.
0:20:35 > 0:20:39- Historically, whenever the - government has had all the power...
0:20:40 > 0:20:43- ..they've been very unfriendly - to their citizens.
0:20:43 > 0:20:46- So, the primary purpose - for the Second Amendment...
0:20:46 > 0:20:48- ..is to make sure that we the people - run the government...
0:20:48 > 0:20:50- ..and not the government - dictates to us.
0:20:50 > 0:20:54- Why does it still - remain pertinent to this day?
0:20:54 > 0:20:57- It was obviously created - in the 18th century.
0:20:57 > 0:20:59- How can it still be relevant?
0:20:59 > 0:21:02- We are, as a country, - not trustful of our government.
0:21:02 > 0:21:06- I know we elect them, but they get - in positions of power and stuff.
0:21:06 > 0:21:08- It is a security thing for us...
0:21:08 > 0:21:10- ..to make sure - that we have the ultimate authority.
0:21:11 > 0:21:14- But isn't that true for many - countries around the world?
0:21:14 > 0:21:16- That their people - do not trust their governments?
0:21:16 > 0:21:19- If they don't have the Second - Amendment, that's their fault.
0:21:20 > 0:21:26- Has what happened at the Mandalay - Bay had any effect on his opinion?
0:21:26 > 0:21:28- Controlling evil is very difficult.
0:21:28 > 0:21:31- Whatever motivated that person, - it was evil.
0:21:31 > 0:21:33- We could give up - all of our freedoms.
0:21:34 > 0:21:37- Benjamin Franklin said - that those who are willing...
0:21:37 > 0:21:41- ..to give up security for safety - deserve neither security nor safety.
0:21:41 > 0:21:43- The Mandalay Bay - was a gun-free zone.
0:21:43 > 0:21:46- They disarmed - all their security guards.
0:21:46 > 0:21:47- There was no way to oppose him.
0:21:48 > 0:21:52- So, such a shooting is not enough - of a reason to give up your freedom?
0:21:52 > 0:21:53- Not at all.
0:21:53 > 0:21:55- Our homes are sacrosanct.
0:21:55 > 0:21:57- Our Constitution - forbids the government...
0:21:57 > 0:21:59- ..from entering our houses - without warrants.
0:22:00 > 0:22:03- But aren't people's lives - sacrosanct as well?
0:22:03 > 0:22:06- Had that man who shot on 1 October - not had those guns...
0:22:06 > 0:22:10- ..would we be here - talking about such an atrocity?
0:22:10 > 0:22:12- We wouldn't, - but why did he get them?
0:22:12 > 0:22:13- Why did he do what he did?
0:22:14 > 0:22:18- If we could answer that question, - we'd solve all the world's evils.
0:22:18 > 0:22:20- If you were at home - and someone broke in...
0:22:20 > 0:22:23- ..you wouldn't think twice - about pulling that trigger?
0:22:24 > 0:22:27- Oh, I would think twice, - but I'd still pull the trigger.
0:22:34 > 0:22:38- Clearly, nothing - will change Don's mind.
0:22:38 > 0:22:44- Hearing someone say such a thing - so directly is rather shocking.
0:22:44 > 0:22:48- He's now going to show me another - gun that's illegal in the UK.
0:22:49 > 0:22:52- I've already fired a shotgun, - but now I'll fire a handgun.
0:22:52 > 0:22:56- I can't do this in Wales - because handguns have been banned.
0:22:57 > 0:23:00- Don will show me how to do it, - and we'll see how it goes.
0:23:03 > 0:23:07- Handguns have been banned in Britain - since the 1996 Dunblane massacre...
0:23:07 > 0:23:11- ..the worst mass shooting - in British history...
0:23:11 > 0:23:15- ..when 16 children - and their teacher were killed...
0:23:15 > 0:23:18- ..at a Scottish primary school.
0:23:19 > 0:23:23- But in Nevada, it's legal - to carry handguns openly...
0:23:23 > 0:23:27- ..and to come to a shooting range - like this one to fire them.
0:23:32 > 0:23:36- Hold it in your hand like this, - with these three fingers here.
0:23:36 > 0:23:40- This finger stays off the trigger - until you go on the target.
0:23:41 > 0:23:44- Hold it as steady as you can - then squeeze the trigger.
0:23:51 > 0:23:56- There's no vetting process - or checks before people shoot here.
0:23:57 > 0:24:00- When you fill the form, - you must confirm...
0:24:00 > 0:24:04- ..you're not a prohibited purchaser - who's barred from possessing a gun.
0:24:07 > 0:24:11- Technically, there's nothing to stop - anyone here from shooting us.
0:24:11 > 0:24:13- The other guys will shoot him.
0:24:15 > 0:24:17- It works out that way.
0:24:18 > 0:24:19- You've got the hang of it.
0:24:19 > 0:24:20- You've got the hang of it.- - Am I a natural, Don?
0:24:20 > 0:24:23- That's what you get for bragging.
0:24:30 > 0:24:34- Many Americans come to places - like this to shoot for fun...
0:24:35 > 0:24:39- ..but also to practise - how to defend themselves.
0:24:42 > 0:24:46- I've had the opportunity - to live the American life today...
0:24:46 > 0:24:49- ..firing guns and wearing this cap.
0:24:49 > 0:24:52- I must admit, - I did get a buzz from firing guns.
0:24:52 > 0:24:57- But the act of holding a gun - is a very strange feeling.
0:24:57 > 0:24:58- It feels surreal.
0:24:58 > 0:25:00- I'm shooting at a target.
0:25:00 > 0:25:03- But there are people behind me...
0:25:03 > 0:25:08- ..preparing for the possibility - of shooting a person.
0:25:08 > 0:25:11- For me, that's hard to contemplate.
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0:25:33 > 0:25:38- Today, I'm visiting a show where - guns and shooting gear are sold.
0:25:40 > 0:25:44- After the shooting in Las Vegas - on 1 October 2017...
0:25:44 > 0:25:46- ..some local gun shows - were cancelled.
0:25:48 > 0:25:52- This will be one of the first shows - since the shooting.
0:25:55 > 0:25:59- Americans own some 265 million guns.
0:25:59 > 0:26:01- That's more than one gun per adult.
0:26:02 > 0:26:04- Today, I'm meeting Gary and Melissa.
0:26:04 > 0:26:08- Gary's an American, - but Melissa hails from Port Talbot.
0:26:08 > 0:26:11- They've come here, - to the Las Vegas Gun Show.
0:26:18 > 0:26:19- You keep guns in the house, do you?
0:26:19 > 0:26:20- You keep guns in the house, do you?- - I do.
0:26:21 > 0:26:23- And that's for defence purposes?
0:26:23 > 0:26:26- Yes, I have a pistol - that I use for home defence...
0:26:27 > 0:26:30- ..and I have a rifle - that I use for fun, sport.
0:26:30 > 0:26:33- Do you have any objection - to Gary keeping guns?
0:26:34 > 0:26:35- Initially, I did.
0:26:35 > 0:26:37- I was nervous of them, - not used to them.
0:26:38 > 0:26:41- Being from Port Talbot, - we don't really have a gun problem.
0:26:42 > 0:26:45- But he made me feel safe - because I trusted him with a gun.
0:26:45 > 0:26:48- I've seen him shoot it - and he was actually...
0:26:48 > 0:26:49- Responsible.
0:26:49 > 0:26:50- Responsible.- - Very responsible.
0:26:51 > 0:26:54- So, you both feel - that there's a palpable threat?
0:26:54 > 0:26:55- Absolutely.
0:26:55 > 0:26:57- Absolutely.- - In big cities, especially.
0:26:57 > 0:27:01- Where we live, every day on the - news, there's been a gun crime.
0:27:01 > 0:27:02- Some sort of violent crime.
0:27:02 > 0:27:04- Some sort of violent crime.- - At least one, two or three.
0:27:04 > 0:27:05- It is concerning.
0:27:06 > 0:27:08- If they have a gun - and they come into my house...
0:27:09 > 0:27:12- ..we'd better have a gun - to face them.
0:27:12 > 0:27:13- If we don't...
0:27:16 > 0:27:21- So, in I go, with Gary, Melissa - and their baby, Cerys.
0:27:22 > 0:27:25- All kinds of things are for sale.
0:27:26 > 0:27:31- It's like a market here, but with - firearms instead of fruit and veg.
0:27:31 > 0:27:35- Lately, I've been thinking - about getting a shotgun.
0:27:35 > 0:27:39- I have a pistol and a rifle, - but a shotgun is real fun to shoot.
0:27:39 > 0:27:43- Someday, I don't right now, - but I'd like to take up hunting.
0:27:46 > 0:27:51- But as I walk around, not everyone - welcomes the camera's presence.
0:27:57 > 0:28:01- But one woman is more than happy - for us to film at her stall...
0:28:02 > 0:28:03- ..and to share her opinion.
0:28:04 > 0:28:05- If you take my rights away...
0:28:05 > 0:28:09- ..then the criminals are the ones - that are going on the street...
0:28:09 > 0:28:12- ..finding guns and knocking on your - door in the middle of the night.
0:28:12 > 0:28:17- Of course, we've got key chains, - bullet-crafted earrings...
0:28:17 > 0:28:20- That's quite telling - - we don't call 911.
0:28:21 > 0:28:25- You don't have any trust - in the police, perhaps?
0:28:25 > 0:28:28- I will still call 911.
0:28:28 > 0:28:33- I will call 911 - after I have my weapon in my hand.
0:28:35 > 0:28:39- But after the interview, - the atmosphere seems unfriendly.
0:28:40 > 0:28:43- Some people start to get - fairly aggressive towards us.
0:28:57 > 0:29:02- We spent about 20 minutes in there - before we were asked to leave...
0:29:02 > 0:29:05- ..despite having permission to film.
0:29:05 > 0:29:08- According to the man - who runs the show...
0:29:08 > 0:29:13- ..a lot of the sellers feel unhappy - about seeing a camera at the show.
0:29:13 > 0:29:16- Clearly, sensitivities - are still running high...
0:29:17 > 0:29:19- ..after the Mandalay Bay shooting.
0:29:31 > 0:29:34- Groups that lobby - to strengthen gun laws...
0:29:34 > 0:29:37- ..have been even more vocal - since 1 October.
0:29:37 > 0:29:40- One of them, Moms Demand Action...
0:29:41 > 0:29:44- ..has invited me - to its monthly meeting.
0:29:47 > 0:29:48- Hi!
0:29:48 > 0:29:50- Hi!- - Hi, Elizabeth, how are you?
0:29:50 > 0:29:51- Nice to meet you.
0:29:55 > 0:29:56- So, here you all are.
0:29:56 > 0:29:57- So, here you all are.- - Yes.
0:29:57 > 0:29:58- Ladies, this is Sion.
0:29:58 > 0:30:00- Ladies, this is Sion.- - Hi, ladies, nice to meet you.
0:30:04 > 0:30:05- What exactly are you doing?
0:30:05 > 0:30:08- Moms as an organization - does care card-writing events.
0:30:09 > 0:30:11- We write cards - to gun violence survivors.
0:30:12 > 0:30:14- I've combined that with an event...
0:30:14 > 0:30:18- ..where we write to our senators - and representatives.
0:30:18 > 0:30:21- The group wants to see - two measures passed.
0:30:22 > 0:30:25- One involves domestic violence.
0:30:26 > 0:30:29- The other seeks improved - background checks on gun buyers.
0:30:30 > 0:30:32- If you've been accused - of domestic violence...
0:30:32 > 0:30:35- ..and you're not a spouse - or a live-in boyfriend...
0:30:35 > 0:30:36- ..you fall through a crack.
0:30:37 > 0:30:39- Later, you could be - in another relationship...
0:30:39 > 0:30:42- ..and you would not be prohibited - from owning weapons.
0:30:42 > 0:30:44- We'd like to close that loophole.
0:30:44 > 0:30:46- Anyone convicted - of domestic violence or stalking...
0:30:47 > 0:30:49- ..would automatically - have their right to own weapons...
0:30:50 > 0:30:52- ..taken away if convicted.
0:30:52 > 0:30:56- Right now, our background check - system is lacking information.
0:30:57 > 0:31:00- We would like there to be - more information in the system.
0:31:00 > 0:31:02- Would a bill such as that one...
0:31:02 > 0:31:06- ..have stopped Stephen Paddock - from doing what he did in Las Vegas?
0:31:07 > 0:31:10- I am not aware that any legislation - that we could have passed...
0:31:10 > 0:31:12- ..would necessarily - have affected him...
0:31:13 > 0:31:16- ..and I wish there were some - legislation that we could pass...
0:31:16 > 0:31:17- ..retroactively...
0:31:18 > 0:31:21- ..but these bills in the future will - prevent people from doing harm...
0:31:22 > 0:31:24- ..especially domestic abusers.
0:31:26 > 0:31:29- I had expected the group - to be completely anti-gun...
0:31:29 > 0:31:32- ..but to my surprise, - that's not true.
0:31:34 > 0:31:37- You're not actively opposed - to the Second Amendment.
0:31:37 > 0:31:40- A lot of our members are gun owners.
0:31:40 > 0:31:44- I just think that it's - not practical in this country.
0:31:44 > 0:31:46- I think the solution...
0:31:46 > 0:31:50- ..has more to do - with things that we can control...
0:31:51 > 0:31:54- ..as opposed to taking things - away from people.
0:31:55 > 0:31:58- But after spending time - with the women...
0:31:58 > 0:32:04- ..it's clear to me that they are - determined to bring about change.
0:32:04 > 0:32:06- There are things that we can do.
0:32:06 > 0:32:09- We use the horrible sadness - of these events...
0:32:10 > 0:32:13- ..to power us through - and support people in the future.
0:32:19 > 0:32:21- The Turner family home...
0:32:22 > 0:32:26- ..is behind security gates - in an affluent part of Las Vegas.
0:32:26 > 0:32:30- Unlike many of their neighbours, - they have no guns in the house.
0:32:31 > 0:32:32- I want to know why.
0:32:32 > 0:32:37- What's your opinion - of American gun laws?
0:32:37 > 0:32:42- The Second Amendment - and the right to own a gun?
0:32:43 > 0:32:47- Twenty years ago, - I'd have been definitely against it.
0:32:48 > 0:32:51- After living in America - for so long...
0:32:51 > 0:32:55- ..I realize that it's part - of the American psyche.
0:32:56 > 0:32:59- It's hard to separate Americans - from their guns.
0:33:00 > 0:33:02- Myself, I don't like guns at all.
0:33:02 > 0:33:06- I've never touched a gun - or fired a gun...
0:33:06 > 0:33:08- ..and we don't have a gun here.
0:33:08 > 0:33:13- I don't want a gun in my own home, - with the children and so on.
0:33:14 > 0:33:19- I don't feel the need for a gun - with which to defend myself.
0:33:19 > 0:33:23- But I do respect the right - that Americans have to own a gun.
0:33:25 > 0:33:30- Some of Gwennan's experiences - with guns in America shock me.
0:33:30 > 0:33:32- I once took the boys to soccer.
0:33:33 > 0:33:35- It was late and we hadn't eaten.
0:33:35 > 0:33:39- I said we'd go for tacos - after training.
0:33:39 > 0:33:42- We got out of the car - and into the shop.
0:33:42 > 0:33:45- Someone said we probably - didn't want to eat there.
0:33:46 > 0:33:49- It turned out that someone - had just shot through the window.
0:33:50 > 0:33:52- There was a bullet hole in it.
0:33:52 > 0:33:53- It must have been a new experience.
0:33:53 > 0:33:54- It must have been a new experience.- - It was really scary.
0:33:57 > 0:34:02- But as someone who grew up there, - is Catrin's opinion different?
0:34:03 > 0:34:06- What do you think - about the right to own guns?
0:34:07 > 0:34:10- For me, guns are just - a really normal part of my life.
0:34:11 > 0:34:12- All my friends have guns.
0:34:12 > 0:34:14- It's just normal for me.
0:34:14 > 0:34:17- It's abnormal - that we don't have any.
0:34:17 > 0:34:20- Have you ever fired a gun?
0:34:20 > 0:34:25- Yes, we have a lot of relatives - in Arizona, where Dad's from.
0:34:25 > 0:34:30- Loads of people there - go out hunting.
0:34:30 > 0:34:34- They're really good with guns, - it's almost a sport for them.
0:34:35 > 0:34:38- I went out there - when we lived in Missouri.
0:34:38 > 0:34:40- A bit more back country.
0:34:40 > 0:34:44- A school field trip went to a gun - range and everyone shot guns.
0:34:46 > 0:34:50- What if one of your children, - when they're older...
0:34:50 > 0:34:53- ..decide to buy a gun - and keep a gun in the house?
0:34:54 > 0:34:56- Would you have a problem with that?
0:34:57 > 0:34:59- I'd be surprised, first of all.
0:34:59 > 0:35:02- No, it wouldn't be a big problem.
0:35:02 > 0:35:05- But I'd insist - that they get training.
0:35:05 > 0:35:11- A lot of people here have held guns - and fired guns as children.
0:35:11 > 0:35:15- They know how to handle a gun, - but our children don't.
0:35:21 > 0:35:24- Training courses do exist.
0:35:24 > 0:35:27- Some are even aimed solely at women.
0:35:32 > 0:35:34- Any time - there is a shooting of any kind...
0:35:35 > 0:35:38- ..they start this gun control crap, - and that's my opinion.
0:35:40 > 0:35:44- Of course, as it's Nevada, - the man in charge is Don Turner.
0:35:46 > 0:35:49- They learn basic firearm safety - and storage.
0:35:49 > 0:35:53- We teach them about - our suicide prevention programme.
0:35:53 > 0:35:55- They get issued with gun locks...
0:35:55 > 0:35:58- ..so they can keep them locked, - if they want.
0:35:58 > 0:36:01- Then we have coaches - that help them shoot.
0:36:01 > 0:36:04- The course started last April.
0:36:05 > 0:36:09- On launch day, - they had prepared to train 60 women.
0:36:09 > 0:36:15- They ended up training almost 300, - and turned over 600 away.
0:36:19 > 0:36:21- What brings you here?
0:36:21 > 0:36:25- A website in our neighbourhood - mentioned the Annie Oakley Program.
0:36:26 > 0:36:27- I do have a gun at home.
0:36:27 > 0:36:31- I wanted to learn how to do it - properly from the experts.
0:36:32 > 0:36:36- Why do you want to make sure - that you know how to do it properly?
0:36:37 > 0:36:40- Eventually, I'm going to be - carrying it on me just for safety.
0:36:41 > 0:36:44- I don't want to shoot somebody - I'm not supposed to be shooting.
0:36:45 > 0:36:47- For example, 1 October...
0:36:47 > 0:36:51- ..when we had - that terrible thing happen here.
0:36:51 > 0:36:53- It's happening - all over the country.
0:36:53 > 0:36:57- Northern Nevada schools got shot up.
0:36:59 > 0:37:03- I think it's my responsibility - to take care of myself.
0:37:04 > 0:37:07- With everything - that's going on in society now...
0:37:07 > 0:37:11- ..and being a single parent - of a small daughter...
0:37:11 > 0:37:15- ..I feel it'll be beneficial for me - to have these skills as a female...
0:37:15 > 0:37:18- ..to protect myself and my family.
0:37:23 > 0:37:27- Describe for me how you feel, - personally, when you shoot a gun.
0:37:27 > 0:37:30- I feel confident...
0:37:30 > 0:37:34- ..and I do not feel - like I'll ever be a victim.
0:37:34 > 0:37:36- And that's important to me.
0:37:37 > 0:37:38- It feels great.
0:37:38 > 0:37:41- It feels very comfortable, - I don't feel uneasy about it.
0:37:42 > 0:37:45- I've gotten over that - and I'm ready for some more.
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0:38:00 > 0:38:02- I've come to Las Vegas...
0:38:02 > 0:38:06- ..to discuss America's - obsession with guns...
0:38:06 > 0:38:10- ..and to see if what Stephen Paddock - did here last year...
0:38:10 > 0:38:14- ..has had any effect on the debate - that divides the country.
0:38:20 > 0:38:24- But how easy is it - to buy a gun here?
0:38:25 > 0:38:29- Today, I join a Nevada resident - to witness the exact process.
0:38:33 > 0:38:34- Here we are then.
0:38:34 > 0:38:35- Here we are then.- - Here we are.
0:38:44 > 0:38:50- Before coming over, I contacted - 28 gun shops in Las Vegas...
0:38:50 > 0:38:52- ..to ask permission to film.
0:38:52 > 0:38:56- This is the only shop - that agreed to open its doors to us.
0:38:59 > 0:39:00- Hey, Jackie, I'm Sion.
0:39:00 > 0:39:02- Nice to meet you.
0:39:05 > 0:39:08- So, what exactly is your affiliation - with this store?
0:39:08 > 0:39:11- What do you do - with regards to firearms in Vegas?
0:39:11 > 0:39:14- We support each other. - I'm a local instructor.
0:39:14 > 0:39:17- This store sell guns and ammunition.
0:39:17 > 0:39:22- I send people here because - they have good customer service...
0:39:22 > 0:39:25- ..and they're patient with newbies.
0:39:25 > 0:39:30- Jackie introduces us to Mike, who'll - explain the process of buying a gun.
0:39:30 > 0:39:32- This is going to be your first gun?
0:39:32 > 0:39:33- This is going to be your first gun?- - Yes.
0:39:33 > 0:39:36- The biggest question, - are you a resident of Nevada?
0:39:37 > 0:39:38- Yes, I am.
0:39:38 > 0:39:42- That's pretty much all you need - to be in order to buy a gun here.
0:39:42 > 0:39:45- There's a bunch of other things - that will preclude you.
0:39:46 > 0:39:47- Do you know what you want?
0:39:47 > 0:39:49- Do you know what you want?- - I'm just looking to shop.
0:39:56 > 0:39:57- Can I have that one then?
0:39:57 > 0:39:59- Can I have that one then?- - Sure. How old are you?
0:39:59 > 0:40:00- I'm 19.
0:40:00 > 0:40:02- I'm 19.- - You can't have any from this case.
0:40:02 > 0:40:03- No handguns.
0:40:03 > 0:40:04- No handguns.- - What can I have?
0:40:05 > 0:40:06- Any long gun, at 19.
0:40:07 > 0:40:09- Pretty much everything behind me.
0:40:09 > 0:40:10- OK.
0:40:11 > 0:40:15- To buy a handgun in Nevada, - you need to be 21.
0:40:15 > 0:40:19- You can buy a shotgun - or rifle aged 18.
0:40:20 > 0:40:22- Alright, let's take that one then.
0:40:23 > 0:40:27- If I was to buy one today, - which one would you recommend?
0:40:27 > 0:40:28- A shotgun or a rifle?
0:40:28 > 0:40:29- A shotgun or a rifle?- - A rifle.
0:40:30 > 0:40:33- Pretty much any of the AR platform.
0:40:33 > 0:40:36- They're lightweight and low recoil.
0:40:36 > 0:40:38- Really multipurpose.
0:40:38 > 0:40:40- Show me a couple of these ones.
0:40:41 > 0:40:43- No way could I buy this. What?!
0:40:45 > 0:40:46- Yes, this is the one.
0:40:46 > 0:40:48- It's calling my name!
0:40:48 > 0:40:52- Now that I know I can get that one, - what's the next step?
0:40:52 > 0:40:53- This is a 4473.
0:40:54 > 0:40:57- That is the form - you need to fill out...
0:40:57 > 0:41:02- ..to purchase a handgun, - a long gun, any gun in America.
0:41:02 > 0:41:07- These are the main questions that - you need to go through and answer.
0:41:10 > 0:41:14- There are questions about criminal - and mental health history...
0:41:14 > 0:41:18- ..drug addiction - and domestic violence convictions.
0:41:23 > 0:41:25- If I was to do this today...
0:41:25 > 0:41:28- ..how soon could I - actually possess the firearm?
0:41:29 > 0:41:33- As long as they don't need to look - into you any further, same day.
0:41:33 > 0:41:38- How many guns could she buy - after being given the OK?
0:41:39 > 0:41:41- Anywhere from one to...
0:41:41 > 0:41:43- There is no real limit.
0:41:43 > 0:41:44- It's our judgement.
0:41:45 > 0:41:48- If she's buying - a bunch of different guns...
0:41:48 > 0:41:51- You can tell really easily - why they're buying guns.
0:41:51 > 0:41:55- Technically, Catrin - could buy one gun here...
0:41:55 > 0:41:59- ..and another from another shop - and so on, all in the same day?
0:41:59 > 0:42:00- Yup.
0:42:01 > 0:42:04- There's no law against that anyway. - You can do that normally.
0:42:05 > 0:42:09- But if you didn't want it to be sent - in to the national tracing centre...
0:42:09 > 0:42:11- ..no other gun store would know.
0:42:12 > 0:42:14- But I wouldn't be able...
0:42:14 > 0:42:15- But I wouldn't be able...- - You would not be.
0:42:15 > 0:42:17- You can look, you can't touch.
0:42:17 > 0:42:18- Because I'm not a US resident.
0:42:18 > 0:42:19- Because I'm not a US resident.- - Correct.
0:42:23 > 0:42:28- So, Catrin completes a form to see - if she would pass the relevant test.
0:42:29 > 0:42:35- What do you think about the fact - that it's as easy as filling a form?
0:42:35 > 0:42:37- It's much easier than I thought.
0:42:38 > 0:42:42- People in Wales ask - if I can just go in and buy one.
0:42:42 > 0:42:43- No, you can't do that.
0:42:44 > 0:42:46- But actually, you can.
0:42:47 > 0:42:52- Mike calls the National Instant - Criminal Background Check System.
0:42:52 > 0:42:55- Ten minutes later, - Catrin gets the green light.
0:42:57 > 0:42:59- So, you're good to go.
0:42:59 > 0:43:00- Let's do it!
0:43:01 > 0:43:04- Obviously, Catrin's mother - wouldn't be happy...
0:43:04 > 0:43:08- ..if I let her bring a gun home, - but going through the process...
0:43:08 > 0:43:12- ..has been an eye-opener - for Catrin and for me.
0:43:12 > 0:43:17- What have you learnt about the whole - process since we entered the shop?
0:43:17 > 0:43:19- It was cool, actually.
0:43:19 > 0:43:23- I've never been into a gun shop - and asked what I'd be able to buy.
0:43:26 > 0:43:29- I could actually do this now.
0:43:29 > 0:43:31- That's mind-blowing.
0:43:43 > 0:43:49- Today is Thanksgiving, the biggest - day of the year for many Americans.
0:43:50 > 0:43:54- I'm spending the evening - with Heather Gooze...
0:43:54 > 0:43:59- ..and other music festival staff - who survived on 1 October.
0:44:00 > 0:44:02- They've all come together - on Thanksgiving.
0:44:03 > 0:44:04- This is Sion, everybody.
0:44:07 > 0:44:11- Before 1 October, most of the group - didn't know each other.
0:44:12 > 0:44:13- They now meet regularly...
0:44:14 > 0:44:17- ..to support each other - through the difficult times.
0:44:18 > 0:44:21- We're so lucky - that not one of our group died.
0:44:22 > 0:44:25- I feel very lucky - and loved more than ever.
0:44:25 > 0:44:27- You got a view of the entire thing.
0:44:27 > 0:44:30- You got a view of the entire thing.- - Unfortunately, we saw everything.
0:44:30 > 0:44:34- It was so scary - seeing people just running out...
0:44:35 > 0:44:39- Running out, seeing people stop, - laying behind.
0:44:40 > 0:44:43- We were running past strollers - and chairs, trampled.
0:44:43 > 0:44:49- These people were happy, wonderful - people, just enjoying a concert.
0:44:49 > 0:44:52- What's your story of that night?
0:44:52 > 0:44:55- I ran through the VIP tent.
0:44:56 > 0:45:01- I ran outside, and the third - or fourth barrage of gunfire came.
0:45:02 > 0:45:04- I jumped to the side, of course.
0:45:05 > 0:45:07- I saw the ricochet - come off the ground...
0:45:08 > 0:45:10- ..and somebody get shot in the head.
0:45:10 > 0:45:11- Really?
0:45:12 > 0:45:15- Something like that must be quite - hard to erase from your memory.
0:45:16 > 0:45:17- It's not erasable, for sure.
0:45:18 > 0:45:21- I'm still having - terrible night terrors.
0:45:21 > 0:45:22- I'm still trying...
0:45:23 > 0:45:24- I'm getting a lot of help.
0:45:24 > 0:45:27- The most help - is when I'm around these people.
0:45:48 > 0:45:52- After a week experiencing - US gun culture for myself...
0:45:52 > 0:45:55- ..I've seen how entrenched - in the American psyche...
0:45:56 > 0:45:58- ..the right to bear arms is.
0:46:00 > 0:46:04- Ridding the USA of guns - seems to me to be highly unlikely...
0:46:04 > 0:46:09- ..whether it's Trump or whoever - in the White House...
0:46:09 > 0:46:11- ..and however many lives are lost.
0:46:13 > 0:46:17- As someone from Wales - who has moved to America...
0:46:18 > 0:46:20- ..and embraced - the way of life here...
0:46:21 > 0:46:23- ..do you believe, - if it was possible...
0:46:24 > 0:46:27- ..that it would be a better place - if it got rid of guns?
0:46:28 > 0:46:31- That's so idealistic.
0:46:31 > 0:46:34- I can't foresee - that happening at all.
0:46:34 > 0:46:39- I can foresee more controls, - but not getting rid of guns.
0:46:39 > 0:46:42- They're a part of the Constitution.
0:46:45 > 0:46:49- A lot of people think, - why not get rid of all the guns?
0:46:50 > 0:46:52- But honestly, you can't do that.
0:46:53 > 0:46:54- I'd want to.
0:46:54 > 0:47:00- If everyone had to make a decision, - guns or no guns, they'd say no guns.
0:47:01 > 0:47:04- But that couldn't happen.
0:47:04 > 0:47:08- If you want guns to go away, - the good guys will take notice.
0:47:09 > 0:47:12- People who know the laws - will obey them.
0:47:13 > 0:47:16- But do you think the bad guys - would give up their guns?
0:47:19 > 0:47:22- Could you live without these guns?
0:47:22 > 0:47:27- If someone took them, - could you live a happy life?
0:47:27 > 0:47:30- They're not as important - as air and food, no.
0:47:31 > 0:47:32- I could live without them.
0:47:33 > 0:47:37- But I enjoy them, and why should I - give up something I enjoy?
0:47:43 > 0:47:46- Would you like to see - an America that is gun-free?
0:47:46 > 0:47:49- No, because it takes away my right - to defend my family.
0:47:50 > 0:47:52- Even if no-one could have a gun?
0:47:52 > 0:47:55- Even if no-one could have a gun?- - That's theoretically impossible.
0:47:55 > 0:47:57- Evil will always flourish.
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