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0:00:03 > 0:00:06- You get a fantastic buzz - from living a double life.
0:00:07 > 0:00:09- A very, very dangerous man.
0:00:11 > 0:00:13- Nothing to say?
0:00:15 > 0:00:16- It's so sad.
0:00:19 > 0:00:20- A real eye-opener.
0:00:28 > 0:00:30- It's a Friday night.
0:00:30 > 0:00:35- I'm meeting paedophile hunters, - the Welsh Children Protectors...
0:00:36 > 0:00:39- ..who try to catch the people - who target children online.
0:00:40 > 0:00:44- They're out to challenge a man - who has engaged in lewd chat...
0:00:44 > 0:00:47- ..with a group member - posing as a 13-year-old girl.
0:00:48 > 0:00:50- We need to get him off the street...
0:00:50 > 0:00:54- ..because he's in contact - with children five days a week.
0:00:55 > 0:00:59- Some accuse the paedophile hunters - of operating as vigilantes.
0:00:59 > 0:01:02- I'm here to see what they do - for myself.
0:01:03 > 0:01:07- In this instance, they have - a file packed with evidence.
0:01:08 > 0:01:10- He knows the decoy is 13.
0:01:12 > 0:01:14- Obviously, this guy is persistent.
0:01:15 > 0:01:16- Yeah, yeah.
0:01:16 > 0:01:20- He wants to take her tenpin bowling.
0:01:20 > 0:01:23- "Would you fancy - doing that with me sometime?
0:01:23 > 0:01:25- "Hoping to let me - kiss and cuddle you?
0:01:25 > 0:01:27- And then it starts getting sexual.
0:01:28 > 0:01:30- She says, - "Won't I get into trouble?"
0:01:30 > 0:01:32- He says, "Be our secret, - whatever we get up to."
0:01:35 > 0:01:39- After three weeks chatting, - the man offered to meet.
0:01:40 > 0:01:42- That's why the group - is here tonight.
0:01:42 > 0:01:45- To meet him face-to-face.
0:01:45 > 0:01:49- The man arranged to meet the "child" - by a corner shop.
0:01:49 > 0:01:54- But when Bozza and the rest arrive, - it doesn't seem as if he's coming.
0:01:58 > 0:02:03- We've just been told - that the man isn't going to meet...
0:02:03 > 0:02:05- ..but that he is at home...
0:02:06 > 0:02:10- ..so the decision has been made - to confront him there.
0:02:12 > 0:02:14- They've just knocked.
0:02:15 > 0:02:16- Could you chat with me please?
0:02:17 > 0:02:20- You can do this - the easy way or the hard way.
0:02:21 > 0:02:25- I believe you've been talking - to an underage girl online.
0:02:26 > 0:02:29- We're from - the Welsh Children Protectors.
0:02:29 > 0:02:32- We want to know why. - Have you got reasons why you did it?
0:02:35 > 0:02:37- No, I feel ashamed.
0:02:38 > 0:02:39- I apologize.
0:02:39 > 0:02:41- We're not looking for an apology.
0:02:45 > 0:02:48- The man is apologizing.
0:02:50 > 0:02:53- To some extent, - he's admitting what he has done.
0:02:54 > 0:02:57- You offered oral sex.
0:02:58 > 0:03:00- This is the reason - we came down here.
0:03:01 > 0:03:04- Boris and Nick are questioning him.
0:03:04 > 0:03:08- What strikes me - is how quiet it all is.
0:03:08 > 0:03:10- The excitement has gone.
0:03:11 > 0:03:15- The seriousness of the situation - has become apparent.
0:03:15 > 0:03:19- We're placing you - under Section 24a citizen's arrest.
0:03:19 > 0:03:21- You can't go back - into your property.
0:03:23 > 0:03:26- The team has called the police...
0:03:27 > 0:03:29- ..and hold the man - until they arrive.
0:03:32 > 0:03:34- He's been talking to a decoy.
0:03:34 > 0:03:38- While police - interrogate the man indoors...
0:03:38 > 0:03:42- ..his partner and other relatives - learn what is happening.
0:03:53 > 0:03:57- The man's family - has just come out...
0:03:57 > 0:04:00- ..his partner in tears...
0:04:00 > 0:04:06- ..to say they knew nothing - about what he was doing.
0:04:06 > 0:04:08- This is difficult.
0:04:08 > 0:04:12- How this affects the close family.
0:04:16 > 0:04:20- The man who staged the sting - with Bozza is Nick Young.
0:04:20 > 0:04:22- They work together often...
0:04:23 > 0:04:27- ..but he also runs his own group - of paedophile hunters, PH Balance.
0:04:34 > 0:04:38- Tonight, I'm meeting Sarah, - who's one of the decoys.
0:04:38 > 0:04:42- She spends - almost every night on chat rooms...
0:04:42 > 0:04:47- ..seeking individuals - who target children online.
0:04:50 > 0:04:52- You set yourself up on a chat room.
0:04:52 > 0:04:55- You create this person, this child.
0:04:55 > 0:04:58- A name and age, - and obviously your own location.
0:04:58 > 0:05:01- They're in straight away, - very descriptive.
0:05:02 > 0:05:03- Are you horny? - How old are you?
0:05:04 > 0:05:05- What's your tit size?
0:05:05 > 0:05:08- Sarah is a single mother of three.
0:05:08 > 0:05:13- She spends her spare time doing this - in order to protect them.
0:05:15 > 0:05:21- On average, how many of the chats - end up being of a sexual nature?
0:05:22 > 0:05:23- Nine out of ten.
0:05:23 > 0:05:24- Nine out of ten.- - That many?
0:05:28 > 0:05:29- Nick shows me an example...
0:05:30 > 0:05:34- ..of the chats Sarah faces - when she's on these chat rooms.
0:05:35 > 0:05:38- This individual - has been chatting for around a week.
0:05:39 > 0:05:42- A very, very dangerous man, - without any shadow of a doubt.
0:05:43 > 0:05:46- I'm surprised - by how vile the chats are.
0:05:47 > 0:05:49- The child says, - "Oh, you like younger girls?"
0:05:50 > 0:05:53- "Yes, because they are inexperienced - and willing to try new things.
0:05:54 > 0:05:56- "I love to help them - with their sexual training."
0:05:57 > 0:05:59- As you can see, - it's relentless.
0:05:59 > 0:06:01- "Would you play with...
0:06:01 > 0:06:02- "Would you sit on...
0:06:03 > 0:06:05- That is very explicit, actually.
0:06:05 > 0:06:06- That is very explicit, actually.- - It's grotesque.
0:06:10 > 0:06:11- Well...
0:06:11 > 0:06:14- ..that was shocking.
0:06:14 > 0:06:16- Absolutely shocking.
0:06:16 > 0:06:20- Nick showed me a transcript - of a real-life conversation.
0:06:20 > 0:06:24- The content was just terrible.
0:06:24 > 0:06:29- A man sending vile photos...
0:06:29 > 0:06:33- ..to what he thought - was a 14-year-old girl.
0:06:37 > 0:06:40- Someone who has had - a similar experience...
0:06:40 > 0:06:44- ..is Mared Emlyn Parry, - who's a student in Cardiff.
0:06:45 > 0:06:49- She was targeted by men online - when she was 14 years old.
0:06:53 > 0:06:58- What was your experience - of being targeted online?
0:06:58 > 0:07:00- When I was younger, 14 or 15...
0:07:01 > 0:07:05- ..a couple of lads in their twenties - began to talk to me and my friends.
0:07:05 > 0:07:10- They asked inappropriate things - and asked us to send photos.
0:07:10 > 0:07:12- It still makes me feel sick.
0:07:12 > 0:07:16- What exactly did those men say - in the messages?
0:07:16 > 0:07:21- They complimented me a lot, - and I wasn't used to that at all.
0:07:21 > 0:07:27- Complimenting what I wore, - my body, my hair.
0:07:27 > 0:07:30- I fell for it, obviously - because I was so young.
0:07:31 > 0:07:34- Two to three weeks in, - things started to change.
0:07:34 > 0:07:37- I'd love to do this to you, - that to you.
0:07:37 > 0:07:40- I was taken aback - because I wasn't used to that.
0:07:40 > 0:07:43- But I rolled with it, - as someone mature would.
0:07:43 > 0:07:47- I should act like a grown-up - because they're grown-ups.
0:07:48 > 0:07:53- After getting the messages, she - was persuaded to go a step further.
0:07:54 > 0:07:56- I ended up sending him some photos.
0:07:56 > 0:07:57- A bit sexual.
0:07:57 > 0:08:00- Horrible really, - because I was so young.
0:08:01 > 0:08:05- Looking back now, - it makes me sick.
0:08:05 > 0:08:08- That someone could have - fooled me into doing it.
0:08:08 > 0:08:10- I never fall for anything now.
0:08:11 > 0:08:14- After reading - about paedophile hunters...
0:08:15 > 0:08:17- ..and the people they target...
0:08:17 > 0:08:22- ..she wrote an article - about her personal experiences.
0:08:23 > 0:08:25- What do you think - of paedophile hunters?
0:08:26 > 0:08:27- Do you think they do good work?
0:08:28 > 0:08:31- Or do they impact on work - that the police should be doing?
0:08:32 > 0:08:34- I think they do great work.
0:08:34 > 0:08:37- What they do is brilliant.
0:08:37 > 0:08:40- They have caught - lots of paedophiles.
0:08:40 > 0:08:43- They've been convicted and jailed.
0:08:43 > 0:08:46- I think, "Crack on, carry on."
0:08:53 > 0:08:56- Since setting up - PH Balance last April...
0:08:56 > 0:09:00- ..Nick and his team have gathered - evidence on 18 individuals.
0:09:01 > 0:09:05- Tonight, I'm in Newport - to follow the group's latest sting.
0:09:06 > 0:09:10- So, gents, what's the situation? - Who are you hoping to find?
0:09:10 > 0:09:11- We've got a gentleman...
0:09:12 > 0:09:16- ..who's been chatting to two - 14-year-old decoy children online.
0:09:18 > 0:09:22- You don't feel as if you're stepping - on the toes of the police?
0:09:23 > 0:09:24- I'm helping the police.
0:09:25 > 0:09:27- Both teams are working together...
0:09:28 > 0:09:32- ..to show the police - that we're willing to help them.
0:09:32 > 0:09:35- Why do you do the whole thing?
0:09:35 > 0:09:39- Sum up why you do this - as often as you do.
0:09:39 > 0:09:41- OK, I'll be honest with you.
0:09:42 > 0:09:44- My own personal thing is...
0:09:44 > 0:09:47- ..I was heavily abused - from the age of four to 14.
0:09:48 > 0:09:53- I will not allow another child - to go through what I went through.
0:09:53 > 0:09:55- That's the reality of it.
0:09:56 > 0:10:00- Even though I've met Nick - several times while filming...
0:10:00 > 0:10:05- ..it's the first time he reveals - his reason for doing this work.
0:10:11 > 0:10:16- Tonight, they have managed to lure - their target to a Newport hotel.
0:10:16 > 0:10:21- I make my way there - with Nick, Bozza and the team.
0:10:21 > 0:10:25- Two decoys have been chatting - to the man for over a month.
0:10:26 > 0:10:29- You're talking - hundreds and hundreds of man hours.
0:10:30 > 0:10:34- And it's important to remember, - he was talking to two decoys.
0:10:35 > 0:10:37- The team is in place - and ready for him.
0:10:39 > 0:10:42- Neil Cooper, we need a word - with you, my friend.
0:10:43 > 0:10:46- It's in your best interests - to have a quiet word.
0:10:46 > 0:10:48- We don't want to make a big scene.
0:10:52 > 0:10:55- We'll discuss that now. - We want to talk to you.
0:10:58 > 0:11:01- After the break, - Neil Cooper views the evidence...
0:11:02 > 0:11:05- ..and I see - how he tries to explain himself.
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0:11:17 > 0:11:21- I've been following a group - of South Wales paedophile hunters.
0:11:21 > 0:11:24- They pose as children online...
0:11:24 > 0:11:28- ..and trawl chat rooms - searching for paedophiles.
0:11:31 > 0:11:35- For over a month, - PH Balance has been chatting...
0:11:36 > 0:11:38- ..to a man called Neil Cooper.
0:11:38 > 0:11:42- They have lured the 44-year-old - to this hotel near Newport.
0:11:43 > 0:11:46- Who have you been talking to online?
0:11:49 > 0:11:51- Olivia.
0:11:51 > 0:11:54- Yes, that little girl there.
0:11:54 > 0:11:55- Yes.
0:11:55 > 0:11:59- And you've been talking - to another little girl, haven't you?
0:11:59 > 0:12:00- Sarah.
0:12:00 > 0:12:02- Sarah.- - Sarah Jane, yes.
0:12:02 > 0:12:04- Two 14-year-old children.
0:12:04 > 0:12:09- Is that appropriate, a man your age - talking to two 14-year-olds?
0:12:09 > 0:12:10- I'm just talking.
0:12:10 > 0:12:12- I'm just talking.- - You're not, you're grooming.
0:12:13 > 0:12:15- They're about to remind him...
0:12:15 > 0:12:18- ..of the vile things - he has suggested to the girls.
0:12:19 > 0:12:23- 370 pages of chat logs there, - all on disc ready for the police.
0:12:23 > 0:12:27- You shouldn't be talking to children - about masturbating...
0:12:28 > 0:12:32- ..and putting hairbrushes in their - vaginas to see what it feels like.
0:12:32 > 0:12:36- They weren't asking you, - you brought up the subject.
0:12:36 > 0:12:38- I catch people like you continually.
0:12:38 > 0:12:40- I catch people like you continually.- - I'm not doing anything.
0:12:40 > 0:12:43- He's denying everything.
0:12:43 > 0:12:45- "I'm not doing anything."
0:12:46 > 0:12:47- I'm not a paedophile.
0:12:47 > 0:12:48- I'm not a paedophile.- - Yes, you are.
0:12:49 > 0:12:53- You said, "How would you like - to go out with an older guy?"
0:12:53 > 0:12:57- Should a 14-year-old child - go out with a man of your age?
0:12:57 > 0:12:58- You don't know?
0:12:58 > 0:13:00- You're not stupid, Neil.
0:13:00 > 0:13:01- You're not stupid, Neil.- - Some of them do.
0:13:01 > 0:13:05- "I do care about you. You're - beautiful and sweet, Olivia."
0:13:05 > 0:13:06- She is.
0:13:07 > 0:13:09- "Then keep it your secret."
0:13:11 > 0:13:15- Even though Nick - is showing him the evidence...
0:13:15 > 0:13:17- ..he's still denying it.
0:13:17 > 0:13:19- "A bit of fun," according to him.
0:13:25 > 0:13:27- Calm down now, boys. Calm down.
0:13:29 > 0:13:32- How can you call it a bit of fun?
0:13:32 > 0:13:35- A couple of weeks ago, - I went down to Portsmouth...
0:13:36 > 0:13:39- ..to sting a chap that spoke - to my two daughters online.
0:13:40 > 0:13:43- My two daughters, 13 and 15.
0:13:43 > 0:13:46- They were real children!
0:13:47 > 0:13:51- The man has clearly riled Bozza.
0:13:52 > 0:13:53- Bozza isn't happy.
0:13:54 > 0:13:56- You admit what you've done is wrong.
0:13:56 > 0:13:59- I've talked to kids, yes, fine.
0:13:59 > 0:14:01- That's it - he's admitted it.
0:14:01 > 0:14:03- "I've talked to kids."
0:14:08 > 0:14:12- I think that I can hear - the police coming.
0:14:19 > 0:14:23- When the police arrive, the team - hands over a catalogue of evidence.
0:14:24 > 0:14:27- Cooper is taken into custody.
0:14:28 > 0:14:29- Will you ever stop?
0:14:30 > 0:14:34- You guys can't clear the whole - country of sexual predators.
0:14:34 > 0:14:35- Will you ever stop?
0:14:35 > 0:14:36- Will you ever stop?- - We'll help.
0:14:36 > 0:14:38- There's two of us, two teams...
0:14:38 > 0:14:42- ..determined that we'll rid - as many of these creatures...
0:14:42 > 0:14:44- ..off Welsh streets as possible.
0:14:51 > 0:14:55- Today, I'm in Bradford - to meet someone else...
0:14:55 > 0:14:59- ..who has ventured into - the dark world of online chat rooms.
0:15:08 > 0:15:10- Hannah hails from Cricieth.
0:15:10 > 0:15:14- She began to investigate - children's chat rooms...
0:15:14 > 0:15:19- ..when a young relative was targeted - on a site called Chat Avenue.
0:15:20 > 0:15:24- What was the exact content - of these chats with older men?
0:15:25 > 0:15:30- I saw things like, - "Do you have hair down there?"
0:15:30 > 0:15:32- "What size are your tits?"
0:15:33 > 0:15:37- "Are you wet?" - "Do you know what sex is?"
0:15:37 > 0:15:39- "Have you ever had sex?"
0:15:39 > 0:15:41- It was really shocking.
0:15:42 > 0:15:45- How did those chats make her feel?
0:15:45 > 0:15:48- It's had a really bad effect on her.
0:15:48 > 0:15:53- It affected her mental health - and she became depressed.
0:15:53 > 0:15:55- She was self-harming.
0:15:55 > 0:15:59- She really struggled - to talk to people about it.
0:15:59 > 0:16:01- She felt ashamed.
0:16:03 > 0:16:06- After seeing the effect - this had on the family...
0:16:07 > 0:16:09- ..Hannah went on Chat Avenue.
0:16:09 > 0:16:14- She posed as a child to see - what messages she would receive.
0:16:15 > 0:16:18- I pretended to be twelve.
0:16:18 > 0:16:21- I typed something - into the main chat...
0:16:22 > 0:16:26- ..and got about 50 requests - for a private chat...
0:16:26 > 0:16:29- ..after typing in, "Hi! I'm twelve."
0:16:29 > 0:16:32- What kind of things - did they tell you?
0:16:32 > 0:16:37- At first, they asked about my day, - if school had been OK.
0:16:37 > 0:16:42- It went on to what I was wearing - and whether I was home alone.
0:16:42 > 0:16:46- Since last April, - a new law has come into force...
0:16:47 > 0:16:50- ..outlawing sexual conversations - with children under 16.
0:16:51 > 0:16:57- Over 1,000 cases have already - been reported in England and Wales.
0:16:57 > 0:17:01- While I'm with Hannah, - she poses as a 13-year-old...
0:17:02 > 0:17:06- ..to show how easy it is for people - to target children on chat rooms.
0:17:07 > 0:17:09- Someone has sent a message to you.
0:17:10 > 0:17:12- Yes, there are three, no, four.
0:17:12 > 0:17:15- One's made a private video request - straight away.
0:17:16 > 0:17:17- Wow!
0:17:17 > 0:17:21- This man's just sent you a message - saying, "I'm so hard"...
0:17:22 > 0:17:25- ..then asked - to go on camera with you.
0:17:26 > 0:17:28- It's incredible, isn't it?
0:17:28 > 0:17:30- Shocking. Totally shocking.
0:17:32 > 0:17:37- According to Chat Avenue, - chat rooms are constantly monitored.
0:17:37 > 0:17:42- They also said that the Teen Chat - site has thousands of users daily...
0:17:42 > 0:17:46- ..and that it's impossible - to verify the ages of every user.
0:17:52 > 0:17:53- After the sting in Newport...
0:17:54 > 0:17:58- ..Neil Cooper spent two months - on remand at Swansea Prison.
0:17:58 > 0:18:01- Today, he's appearing in court.
0:18:05 > 0:18:07- I'm at Cardiff Crown Court...
0:18:07 > 0:18:12- ..where Neil Cooper, the man caught - by PH Balance, is being sentenced...
0:18:13 > 0:18:14- ..after a guilty plea.
0:18:17 > 0:18:20- Mr Cooper, have you got - any words you'd like to say today?
0:18:21 > 0:18:23- Do you regret doing what you did?
0:18:24 > 0:18:25- Any final words?
0:18:25 > 0:18:27- Any final words?- - No, nothing.
0:18:27 > 0:18:31- The judge saw evidence - of chats Cooper had...
0:18:31 > 0:18:34- ..with two girls - he thought were 14 years old.
0:18:52 > 0:18:55- Neil Cooper has been sentenced.
0:18:55 > 0:18:59- Eight months' imprisonment, - suspended for two years...
0:18:59 > 0:19:03- ..for inciting a child - to engage in sexual activity.
0:19:03 > 0:19:08- The judge - told Mr Cooper directly...
0:19:08 > 0:19:14- ..that people who do these things - are eventually caught.
0:19:16 > 0:19:21- The judge ordered Cooper - to attend a 30-day rehab course...
0:19:21 > 0:19:24- ..as part of his - Sexual Harm Prevention Order.
0:19:24 > 0:19:29- He was also placed on the Sex - Offenders' Register for ten years.
0:19:36 > 0:19:40- But today, he's free to return home.
0:19:43 > 0:19:46- Do you have anything to say - about your sentencing today?
0:19:46 > 0:19:49- Anything to say - about the way you were caught?
0:19:49 > 0:19:50- Nothing at all?
0:19:50 > 0:19:51- Nothing at all?- - No.
0:20:05 > 0:20:10- After Neil Cooper was sentenced, - I went to Cwmbran to talk to Nick.
0:20:11 > 0:20:14- Hi, Nick. Can I get you a drink?
0:20:15 > 0:20:20- Since I last saw you, - Neil Cooper has been sentenced.
0:20:20 > 0:20:24- I wanted to get your reaction - to the sentence he received.
0:20:25 > 0:20:29- It's fair to say that I've got - variant feelings and emotions...
0:20:29 > 0:20:31- ..over the sentence he received.
0:20:31 > 0:20:35- He spent a couple of months - on remand before he went to court.
0:20:35 > 0:20:38- They would have had - a dramatic effect on his life.
0:20:38 > 0:20:40- As far as I'm concerned...
0:20:40 > 0:20:44- ..and I can speak for PH Balance - and Welsh Children Protectors...
0:20:44 > 0:20:46- ..I know that means - it's objective achieved.
0:20:47 > 0:20:50- He won't go back online, - he won't talk to children again.
0:20:50 > 0:20:52- And if he does, - I'll go and get him again.
0:20:54 > 0:20:59- Since I last saw Nick, - Gwent Police had written to him...
0:21:00 > 0:21:04- ..informing him that they could not - support the work of PH Balance.
0:21:05 > 0:21:06- "We understand your concerns...
0:21:06 > 0:21:09- "..regarding the internet activity - of paedophiles...
0:21:09 > 0:21:11- "..but stress - that the activity you propose...
0:21:11 > 0:21:13- "..could lead to you - committing offences...
0:21:13 > 0:21:15- "..and should be left - to law enforcement.
0:21:15 > 0:21:20- "If any offences have been committed - by you or any member of the group...
0:21:20 > 0:21:22- "..you will be dealt with."
0:21:23 > 0:21:26- It is a threat, and it's wrong.
0:21:26 > 0:21:30- It's disgusting that a decent, - law-abiding member of the public...
0:21:30 > 0:21:33- ..should receive a letter saying - that I'll be dealt with by police...
0:21:33 > 0:21:35- ..for doing - absolutely nothing wrong.
0:21:37 > 0:21:40- When I raised the matter - with Gwent Police, they said...
0:21:40 > 0:21:43- .."We understand the wish - to protect children...
0:21:44 > 0:21:48- "..but any member of the public with - information about child abuse...
0:21:48 > 0:21:52- ".. should contact the police - so that we can investigate...
0:21:52 > 0:21:54- "..and bring them to justice.
0:21:54 > 0:21:57- "Vigilante groups are in danger - of committing offences...
0:21:57 > 0:22:00- "..when dealing - with possible paedophiles."
0:22:00 > 0:22:03- Paedophile hunters - engender mixed feelings.
0:22:03 > 0:22:07- I want to know what Jeff Cuthbert, - the Gwent Police Commissioner...
0:22:08 > 0:22:10- ..has to say about the letter.
0:22:10 > 0:22:12- One group we have been following...
0:22:12 > 0:22:17- ..have, they say, always had - a good relationship with the police.
0:22:17 > 0:22:21- Yet they received this letter - from a detective at Gwent Police...
0:22:21 > 0:22:24- ..saying that they need to stop - doing what they're doing.
0:22:25 > 0:22:26- How do you react to that?
0:22:27 > 0:22:28- That can't be fair, surely?
0:22:28 > 0:22:29- That can't be fair, surely?- - I am familiar with this case.
0:22:30 > 0:22:32- Whether or not - they should have had it...
0:22:32 > 0:22:36- ..is a matter for the Gwent Police - and the officers at that time.
0:22:36 > 0:22:38- I'm not the author of the letter.
0:22:39 > 0:22:41- I want to make that - absolutely clear.
0:22:41 > 0:22:43- It's not for me to question...
0:22:43 > 0:22:46- ..what the police thought - was right at the time.
0:22:46 > 0:22:50- Where there are good relationships, - despite a letter of this nature...
0:22:50 > 0:22:52- ..we hope that that will continue.
0:22:52 > 0:22:54- I would say to Nick - and his colleagues...
0:22:54 > 0:22:56- ..not to get too worried about that.
0:23:01 > 0:23:04- Nick, Bozza and their groups - firmly believe...
0:23:04 > 0:23:08- ..that they can catch people - who are under the police's radar...
0:23:09 > 0:23:11- ..and that if not for them...
0:23:12 > 0:23:16- ..some offenders would still be free - to target children online.
0:23:18 > 0:23:22- Despite the police's warning, - Nick won't be giving up the work.
0:23:23 > 0:23:24- No.
0:23:25 > 0:23:26- Not at all?
0:23:26 > 0:23:27- Not at all?- - No, not at all.
0:23:27 > 0:23:29- I will prove to them - that PH Balance...
0:23:29 > 0:23:31- ..and my colleagues - at Welsh Children Protectors...
0:23:32 > 0:23:33- ..will continue - to do what we're doing...
0:23:33 > 0:23:35- ..and bring these individuals - to justice.
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