:00:00. > :00:00.it does pose challenges for the union between Northern Ireland and
:00:00. > :00:00.the rest of the United Kingdom. Northern Ireland politics is
:00:00. > :00:10.increasingly polarised which is amplified by the general election
:00:11. > :00:16.result tonight. Let us bring in a new member of our political panel,
:00:17. > :00:20.Jo Swinson, we spoke to you earlier live from your account where you
:00:21. > :00:23.were re-elected as MP for Dunbartonshire East. Thank you for
:00:24. > :00:28.coming into the studio. We are waiting for one result from
:00:29. > :00:36.Scotland, in Fife North East. Have you heard any updates? We heard
:00:37. > :00:40.there might be one vote in it. I think we're on a third recount. It
:00:41. > :00:45.shows you how close it is. It is a reminder to all of us knocking on
:00:46. > :00:51.doors until the last moments, in the pouring rain as was yesterday, that
:00:52. > :00:55.elections do come down to one or two votes. And they can be that close. I
:00:56. > :00:56.am hopeful for Elizabeth riches, but we will not know until we get the
:00:57. > :01:11.result. In terms of the picture across the
:01:12. > :01:15.UK, we expect the party to finish in the teens. It is not the sort of
:01:16. > :01:19.advance you were looking for giving the distinctive message you had on
:01:20. > :01:23.Brexit and the possibility of revisiting that question once the
:01:24. > :01:26.final deal was done. We are two years on from what was a
:01:27. > :01:31.catastrophic result for the Lib Dems. Rebuilding from that there's
:01:32. > :01:35.not going to be an overnight job. We have our highest of the membership
:01:36. > :01:40.of over 100000 and we're now seeing some solid steady progress and cease
:01:41. > :01:45.in this election, which was a snap election from a standing start in
:01:46. > :01:51.many cases. So I think we can be pleased with the results tonight,
:01:52. > :01:54.particularly when you MPs, people like Vince Cable and Ed Davey,
:01:55. > :02:00.having that level of experience, and some new places like Christine
:02:01. > :02:02.Jardine. We're going to have a strong Parliamentary party.
:02:03. > :02:08.Obviously you always want to win more seats. We have seen other
:02:09. > :02:13.parties losing seats, then you would rather be in the position of gaining
:02:14. > :02:27.seats. Where do you think this election leaves a Brexit process,
:02:28. > :02:31.Mohamed Sarwar? I think she needs to go tomorrow and is a question about
:02:32. > :02:35.who will lead the talks about trying to put together a new government,
:02:36. > :02:40.and there is a reason for that because the Brexit negotiations will
:02:41. > :02:46.be even more difficult, I think. I would go further, not only do we
:02:47. > :02:50.need a new Prime Minister and Theresa May needs to go but given
:02:51. > :02:55.the make-up of the Parliament, that negotiation team has to be a
:02:56. > :02:58.cross-party negotiation team, rather than purely a conservative
:02:59. > :03:01.negotiation team if were going to bring the country together and if
:03:02. > :03:05.Adam is right to say that we are going to try and protect the union,
:03:06. > :03:09.if we're serious about it we need to bring the parties together make up a
:03:10. > :03:13.cross-party negotiating team to get the right result for Britain. You
:03:14. > :03:17.said a cross-party negotiating team. Are you suggesting some kind of
:03:18. > :03:23.national government well? It is safe to say that there was no chance that
:03:24. > :03:27.the Labour Party 's have anything to do with the Conservative government
:03:28. > :03:33.that is what we end up with, we will have to go within the Parliament to
:03:34. > :03:38.get about past, to agree a deal, and how that deal was negotiated and put
:03:39. > :03:42.together is very serious now. Should there be labour and Lib Dem people
:03:43. > :03:45.involved in that well? There's a serious case for it to be a
:03:46. > :03:52.cross-party negotiation is that we can get agreement across the UK. All
:03:53. > :03:58.parties? Yes, get that deal passed in the Parliament. What about that
:03:59. > :04:02.idea, Adam Tomkins? Were getting a long way ahead of ourselves here. It
:04:03. > :04:05.is clear that those going to be a hung Parliament were no party has an
:04:06. > :04:09.overall majority. We have some days ahead of us of negotiations between
:04:10. > :04:18.the parties to try and form an administration. I don't agree that
:04:19. > :04:22.Theresa May should go tomorrow. There is no vacancy at the top of
:04:23. > :04:25.the Conservative Party or in Downing Street. Theresa May will try to form
:04:26. > :04:31.a minority or coalition government or some kind of combination of the
:04:32. > :04:37.two. And we have rules in the Constitution in place to allow
:04:38. > :04:42.governments to try and do that in the rare cases where we elect a hung
:04:43. > :04:47.Parliament. If Theresa May goes, which I think is likely, she cannot
:04:48. > :04:53.be replaced by a buffoon like Boris Johnson. If you allow him to lead
:04:54. > :05:07.the government and negotiation on Brexit, it is going to fail. I don't
:05:08. > :05:10.think Anas Sarwar should be saying who we should have as Prime
:05:11. > :05:22.Minister. They can see at the moment. From an SNP point of view,
:05:23. > :05:26.do you lot back the suggestion from Anas Sarwar that all parties become
:05:27. > :05:30.involved in the Brexit negotiation and that no one party leads us
:05:31. > :05:37.through that? The SNP has said all along that Scotland should have a
:05:38. > :05:41.voice within the Brexit negotiations and the Scottish Government would
:05:42. > :05:47.like the SNP to be involved in that. Adam is right in some ways... Wait,
:05:48. > :05:53.you just said that Adam Tomkins of the Conservative Party is right!
:05:54. > :05:58.There are rules of the game that the players set themselves. Theresa May
:05:59. > :06:02.said she lost 60 said this election she would have lost the election.
:06:03. > :06:10.She has done that. She cannot carry on with a record like that leaving
:06:11. > :06:14.the country into something as serious as Brexit negotiations. We
:06:15. > :06:17.have seen a performance during this election campaign. I don't think
:06:18. > :06:25.anyone seriously expects Theresa May to be able to go in and do battle
:06:26. > :06:28.for Britain amongst 27 EU members. It is a ludicrous suggestion that
:06:29. > :06:34.she has got strong and stable leadership that she promised right
:06:35. > :06:37.at the start of this campaign. She has been speaking out Conservative
:06:38. > :06:44.Party headquarters. She hasn't given an indication that she either will
:06:45. > :06:49.or will not move from the position of leadership she is currently in.
:06:50. > :06:57.Jo Swinson, in any event, does this election and its outcome change the
:06:58. > :07:02.nature of the Brexit deal that we will be seeking and ultimately end
:07:03. > :07:07.up with? It should. Theresa May went into the election saying she wanted
:07:08. > :07:11.a mandate for her extreme vision of Brexit, choices that she had made
:07:12. > :07:15.about what our opening position would be about being outside the
:07:16. > :07:21.single market and Customs union. And she hasn't had a mandate for that
:07:22. > :07:25.position. She hasn't been heard to stand up and debate it against other
:07:26. > :07:30.leaders. I do think that this result, in the same way that the SNP
:07:31. > :07:33.need to reflect on the second independence referendum having seen
:07:34. > :07:38.the results in Scotland, Theresa May needs to reflect on the way that she
:07:39. > :07:42.has been pursuing Brexit, because the people have spoken and they have
:07:43. > :07:47.not given her the majority that she sought. I want to bring in Brian
:07:48. > :07:51.Taylor. It will probably not be a popular thing for me to say but one
:07:52. > :07:59.way of resolving the hung Parliament is to have another election. Isn't
:08:00. > :08:12.that right? Take that badge away! I think it would be a courageous
:08:13. > :08:16.individual who went to the country to try and hold another election
:08:17. > :08:23.having called one unnecessary election when they were in
:08:24. > :08:29.government and then to say... Week that to a year, it has been seven
:08:30. > :08:34.including the referendums in the past two years. That discussion
:08:35. > :08:40.about Brexit, does Theresa May look to anybody here, like somebody who
:08:41. > :08:44.is up for a fight with 27 nations all of whom are defending their own
:08:45. > :08:47.interests staunchly against the United Kingdom? Does she look like
:08:48. > :08:55.someone ready to pursue that battle in 11 days' time, having made a
:08:56. > :08:59.cautious, timid, half-hearted speech and then departed from the scene of
:09:00. > :09:03.her own victory in Maidenhead? She doesn't look to me like somebody
:09:04. > :09:07.ready for that fight. She may recall, she may gather and change
:09:08. > :09:14.your mind but it didn't look like it tonight. I've had quite like to ask
:09:15. > :09:21.about potential successors, should there be a contest and that is
:09:22. > :09:26.something that we will pick up on. We are waiting in Scotland from the
:09:27. > :09:31.declaration from Fife north-east, no indication as to how soon you might
:09:32. > :09:38.get that. We are hoping to catch up with Professor John Curtice, who has
:09:39. > :09:42.been crunching numbers all night and we are hoping to hear from him, his
:09:43. > :09:54.perspective on this remarkable election outcome. I will bring in
:09:55. > :10:00.his colleague in political punditry. It's far too inaccurate word,
:10:01. > :10:05.because of course as a professor of politics what you do is much grander
:10:06. > :10:12.than that! Your perspective on this remarkable result. And where we
:10:13. > :10:21.might go on the two constitutional issues, both independence and
:10:22. > :10:24.Brexit. The Conservatives will be humbled by this result. This is not
:10:25. > :10:28.the result the UK Conservatives expected. But they will be
:10:29. > :10:31.emboldened by the performance within Scotland. There has been lots of
:10:32. > :10:37.discussion about whether or not the Scottish Government should take the
:10:38. > :10:41.independence referendum of the table. For me, it doesn't really
:10:42. > :10:47.matter whether it is formerly of the table or not because the threat or
:10:48. > :10:50.the promise as you perceive it of a second independence referendum is
:10:51. > :10:56.much less terrible now as a result of the election than it was before.
:10:57. > :11:00.But that does raise some issues. It can be used as leverage between the
:11:01. > :11:06.relations between the Scottish and UK governments to help increase the
:11:07. > :11:11.influence that Scotland has, over say, Wales and Northern Ireland, and
:11:12. > :11:13.if you remove that, it presents challenges for the Scottish
:11:14. > :11:18.Government in how it can have its voice heard in the Brexit
:11:19. > :11:24.negotiations and in some of the challenges for devolution in the
:11:25. > :11:30.past ahead. We can cross now to London and speak to Professor John
:11:31. > :11:36.Curtice of Strathclyde University. How did the exit polls do, first of
:11:37. > :11:39.all? I think in the end we got it almost right. We said at the
:11:40. > :11:45.beginning of the night the Conservatives would get 214 seats,
:11:46. > :11:48.and we would probably although by no means definitely end up with a hung
:11:49. > :11:52.Parliament. At the moment we expect the Conservatives to get 319 or so,
:11:53. > :12:01.so a slight underestimate but the essential story correct. The SNP,
:12:02. > :12:05.34, maybe ending up at 35. That is as accurate as you are going to get,
:12:06. > :12:08.it will never be spot-on, but we did tell the nation at ten o'clock
:12:09. > :12:17.roughly what the story was, and above all, that the Prime Minister's
:12:18. > :12:20.decision to call the election has basically backfired spectacularly.
:12:21. > :12:25.Backfired to the extent that we're going to need a new Prime Minister,
:12:26. > :12:28.do you think? That is a decision for the Conservative Party. It is
:12:29. > :12:32.perfectly clear that the only administration that can be formed is
:12:33. > :12:39.a conservative led administration and, indeed, so long as they can get
:12:40. > :12:43.the DUP onside that will take them past the 325 mark I given that Sinn
:12:44. > :12:50.Fein are winning as many as seven seats in Northern Ireland, there
:12:51. > :12:53.will only be 643 MPs in the next Parliament, so the Conservative
:12:54. > :12:56.Party can for all practical purposes as long as they have the DUP onside
:12:57. > :13:02.will have a small majority, but politically, the reaction in the
:13:03. > :13:06.Conservative Party is going to be, we went into this election with a 16
:13:07. > :13:10.point lead, at some point a 20 point lead and we ended up with just a
:13:11. > :13:16.3-point lead which ended up being insufficient to return an overall
:13:17. > :13:19.majority. Given that clearly, behind-the-scenes there were quite
:13:20. > :13:22.substantial criticisms of the Prime Minister's campaign and the mistakes
:13:23. > :13:29.that were made on the so-called dementia tax, and then we came to
:13:30. > :13:34.understand that she was not somebody you found it easy to deal with the
:13:35. > :13:39.unexpected, with the interchange with journalists and in casual
:13:40. > :13:44.conversation, in the way that is pretty essential. She was constantly
:13:45. > :13:49.wanting to rehearse preferred answers. She didn't look like
:13:50. > :13:53.someone who did think on her feet. In contrast, Jeremy Corbyn, who at
:13:54. > :13:58.the beginning of the election, most voters had just written off as a
:13:59. > :14:03.party leader, because he campaigned at least as well as Theresa May,
:14:04. > :14:09.because he came up with a popular manifesto, more popular than hers,
:14:10. > :14:14.many voters re-evaluated their view of the leaders. In truth, what
:14:15. > :14:17.Jeremy Corbyn has achieved in terms of his personal popularity is
:14:18. > :14:23.unprecedented in polling history. Usually in polling history if the
:14:24. > :14:26.public have decided you're not a good leader you can not turn it
:14:27. > :14:31.around. Jeremy Corbyn managed to turn around his position in just
:14:32. > :14:37.four short weeks. Given that the Conservatives put together a
:14:38. > :14:40.programme based on a landslide, in these circumstances, what bits of
:14:41. > :14:48.that programme, that manifesto, might have to be traded away, do you
:14:49. > :14:56.think? That is a very good question. The problem, of course, the big task
:14:57. > :15:01.that faces this next government is indeed negotiating Brexit. And,
:15:02. > :15:04.given that the Conservative Party, shall we say, are not entirely
:15:05. > :15:09.united on the subject, given what Theresa May was trying to do was to
:15:10. > :15:13.make it possible for her to reach an accommodation with the EU that would
:15:14. > :15:17.involve compromises for those at the hard Brexit end of her party, than
:15:18. > :15:22.they would like, she will now not have that freedom of movement. In
:15:23. > :15:28.truth, one might want to say to her in that situation that, actually, a
:15:29. > :15:31.central position, that the government would try to reach an
:15:32. > :15:36.accommodation with the opposition as to what the UK negotiating position
:15:37. > :15:40.should be, so that she therefore the wood no what the House of Commons
:15:41. > :15:43.might and might not accommodate. I've heard some people suggest that
:15:44. > :15:48.that should be the case this morning. That would require Theresa
:15:49. > :15:53.May not just add insult her party in a way that so far she has shown
:15:54. > :15:56.little appetite for doing, but actually, to be willing to reach
:15:57. > :15:58.across the floor of the House of Commons. That would require a very,
:15:59. > :16:10.very different style of government. Otherwise, I suspect that
:16:11. > :16:14.Conservative proposals for the financing of social care for older
:16:15. > :16:19.people in England, those will probably bite the dust very rapidly.
:16:20. > :16:25.And in Scotland, Nicola Sturgeon appears to have, or has won the
:16:26. > :16:31.election north of the border, with the largest number of seats, I think
:16:32. > :16:36.it's 34 at the moment. But she said she will reflect on that result, so
:16:37. > :16:43.what kind of reflection do you think she might have? I think clearly the
:16:44. > :16:47.concern for the SNP must be that some of the momentum that has been
:16:48. > :16:52.behind the independence movement, which survived the defeat in the
:16:53. > :16:57.referendum three years ago, some of that has gone. One of the
:16:58. > :17:00.interesting things, apart from the opinion polls in Scotland, which
:17:01. > :17:04.were beginning to pick up the rise in Labour support north of the
:17:05. > :17:08.border towards the end of the campaign, was that again, much of it
:17:09. > :17:14.was happening among younger people, and that the SNP was losing the
:17:15. > :17:18.enthusiasm of younger people in Scotland, who hitherto had been keen
:17:19. > :17:24.on independence and keen on footing for the SNP. What the opinion polls
:17:25. > :17:26.also told us was that we should be careful of leading directly the
:17:27. > :17:32.level of support for independence from the level of support for the
:17:33. > :17:38.SNP, because only around three quarters of those who voted US in
:17:39. > :17:48.2014 said they were going to vote for the SNP. It may well be that the
:17:49. > :17:52.SNP will have to reflect, as well as rushing a second independence
:17:53. > :17:56.referendum, may want to reflect on the domestic record, not least on
:17:57. > :18:02.schools, it's beginning to undermine their support among those, who on
:18:03. > :18:06.the constitutional question, are still willing to support the
:18:07. > :18:14.nationalist position. Thanks very much for your perspective. Professor
:18:15. > :18:19.John Curtice live from London. We will be live in Glenrothes fairly
:18:20. > :18:25.shortly, we think, for the declaration. I'm hoping so, I have
:18:26. > :18:29.my fingers crossed. There have been three recounts in the Fife
:18:30. > :18:34.north-east constituency. A very close contest, perhaps just one vote
:18:35. > :18:39.in it. The last time we checked, it seemed the count was leaning towards
:18:40. > :18:44.the Liberal Democrats, but could it be that the SNP hold on? We will
:18:45. > :18:48.find out, we hope, in the next few minutes. In the meantime, let's pick
:18:49. > :18:53.up with Jackie and this morning's headlines.
:18:54. > :18:57.If you are just waking up, you're waking up to a new political dawn.
:18:58. > :19:02.The BBC is predicting a hung parliament. The Conservatives are
:19:03. > :19:05.unlikely to have an overall majority. Pressure is already
:19:06. > :19:12.growing on Theresa May to stand aside. She has not uttered the words
:19:13. > :19:17.as we saw her account. In Scotland, the party registered their best
:19:18. > :19:24.result since the early 1980s. The Scottish Secretary David Mundell is
:19:25. > :19:30.now one of 13 Conservative MPs. The SNP is still the largest party. It's
:19:31. > :19:35.easy to forget that, after the seismic victory two years ago. But
:19:36. > :19:39.they have lost 21. Conservatives with the Lucky 13 for them so far,
:19:40. > :19:44.Labour on Southern, gained six overnight and the Lib Dems on four.
:19:45. > :19:50.One of the night's most dramatic moments came when the former SNP
:19:51. > :19:56.leader Alex Sam lost his Gordon seat. I'm disappointed, I've lost so
:19:57. > :20:01.many fine parliamentary colleagues. I think one thing the polls did not
:20:02. > :20:04.detect at all was a late recovery in Labour Party fortunes, based on the
:20:05. > :20:07.admiration of a lot of people for the performance of Jeremy Corbyn
:20:08. > :20:13.during this general election campaign. The newspapers are owed.
:20:14. > :20:19.The National has some top the night like this. Being tribute to the MPs
:20:20. > :20:23.who lost their seats. As the nation wakes up to news of that hung
:20:24. > :20:29.parliament, let's see what the reaction is to some of the gains and
:20:30. > :20:37.losses on Twitter. In a speech to Conservative HQ, Theresa May did not
:20:38. > :20:40.mention her future, but obviously a lot of speculation. Angus MacNeil of
:20:41. > :20:45.the SNP, who held the Western Isles has asked the question, is this the
:20:46. > :20:49.election were everyone lost? As Glenn was just saying, we're waiting
:20:50. > :20:54.for one more declaration in Scotland. It could come down to a
:20:55. > :21:00.coin toss in North East Fife, where in the here's press in it.
:21:01. > :21:05.We will cross strait that declaration when it comes in. We are
:21:06. > :21:13.just reflecting on the extent of the conservative comeback in Scotland at
:21:14. > :21:19.this election. They have 13 seats, and among those who are returning to
:21:20. > :21:21.parliament, were taking seats in parliament, the Scottish secretary
:21:22. > :21:28.David Mundell. And in the neighbouring constituency of
:21:29. > :21:31.Dumfries and Galloway, the new MP is Alister Jack. They are both with us
:21:32. > :21:38.live from Dumfries. Congratulations to both of you on your re-election,
:21:39. > :21:46.David Mundell, and on your election, Alister Jack. Alistair Jack, how
:21:47. > :21:53.does it feel to be new to the House of Commons? It feels very good. It
:21:54. > :21:58.feels particularly good to do it when the Conservatives are returning
:21:59. > :22:02.and other 12 seats. Another 12 seats, and actually this is the best
:22:03. > :22:07.result in terms of seats that the Conservatives have had since 1983,
:22:08. > :22:13.when you won 21. This year of the board might be slightly up on that
:22:14. > :22:20.time. What do you think the key ingredients have been of this
:22:21. > :22:28.recovery? The key ingredient has been first of all Ruth Davidson's
:22:29. > :22:32.success as a leader, David Mundell's success as Scottish Secretary. I'm
:22:33. > :22:37.getting revamp in the year, but I'll learn how to do this better as time
:22:38. > :22:43.goes on. And obviously, the big thing was Nicola Sturgeon calling
:22:44. > :22:47.that vote on a second independence referendum. Had she known Theresa
:22:48. > :22:50.May was going to go to the country, I don't believe she would have done
:22:51. > :22:55.that. It was a mistake, and the country have turned their back on
:22:56. > :23:01.Nicola Sturgeon. It was a high water mark for the SNP in 2015, and the
:23:02. > :23:05.tide is now going out. But they bring in David Mundell as MP for
:23:06. > :23:11.Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale and detail. If I could concentrate with
:23:12. > :23:15.you on the UK picture, what you think is good to happen now? What is
:23:16. > :23:25.the way forward, given the hung parliament? You know much more about
:23:26. > :23:33.the UK position than we do, we've been stuck in a count with not
:23:34. > :23:36.particularly good Wi-Fi or mobile reception. There are still a few
:23:37. > :23:42.results to come. You will see how the results settles down in the
:23:43. > :23:46.morning. The shape of that parliament will determine the nature
:23:47. > :23:51.of the government going forward, but there is still important business to
:23:52. > :23:57.be done, particularly taking forward the Brexit negotiations, which are
:23:58. > :24:01.due to begin in about 11 days. Theresa May, having failed to
:24:02. > :24:05.achieve the goal she set herself, to increase her majority and strengthen
:24:06. > :24:12.her hand, is she now vulnerable? Will she have to go? I certainly
:24:13. > :24:17.don't think so. She is still the best person to lead us into those
:24:18. > :24:26.Brexit negotiations. We will see the shape of the new parliament when all
:24:27. > :24:30.the results are in. I think that will determine the nature of things
:24:31. > :24:35.going forward, particularly the approach that people take, what I
:24:36. > :24:40.hope as a result of the result in Scotland, is that Nicola Sturgeon
:24:41. > :24:44.takes her plans for a device of the second independence referendum of
:24:45. > :24:48.the table. We will see the SNP actually come forward in a
:24:49. > :24:54.constructive way in relation to the Brexit negotiations. I hope Labour,
:24:55. > :24:57.even with an increased size of party in parliament, will also adopt a
:24:58. > :25:04.constructive approach. We've got to work together on what our
:25:05. > :25:08.unprecedented post-war negotiations. Labour's Anas Sarwar suggested that
:25:09. > :25:13.the Conservative - led government, if that what we're going to have,
:25:14. > :25:18.will have to reach out to all the parties in the House of Commons to
:25:19. > :25:22.try and negotiate a Brexit deal. Is that a good idea? And how might that
:25:23. > :25:29.change the sort of deal we would be seeking? I think we've got to get
:25:30. > :25:35.the best possible deal, and I don't think we should be looking for a
:25:36. > :25:39.deal that meets the requirements of individual political parties. I
:25:40. > :25:43.think this is actually a time where those sort of party political
:25:44. > :25:47.considerations are put aside in the national interest, and the national
:25:48. > :25:52.interest is put first, and that the parties come together to actually
:25:53. > :25:55.look and work for a good deal for Britain. But of course, if the
:25:56. > :25:59.government doesn't have a majority, it does have to work with others,
:26:00. > :26:03.whether that is in Holyrood or Westminster. When we see the final
:26:04. > :26:11.numbers, those will determine the shape and nature of the government
:26:12. > :26:13.going forward. That is a suggestion of a deal with the Democratic
:26:14. > :26:20.Unionist Party, we will see where we end up. Thank you both for talking
:26:21. > :26:26.to us. Live from Dumfries. Now, it has been another extraordinary
:26:27. > :26:32.election. An extraordinary night. Some extraordinary results. Let's
:26:33. > :26:39.catch up on all the action with our correspondent Andrew care. Colin
:26:40. > :26:45.James Clark, Scottish Conservative and Unionist, 20 1000, the SNP may
:26:46. > :26:50.be the overall winners, but that the biggest losers. The people of Gordon
:26:51. > :26:53.hosted the former First Minister. Alex Salmond said the SNP had
:26:54. > :27:00.suffered a grievous blow, but he did think they could still play a big
:27:01. > :27:05.part at Westminster. The SNP might well find itself in reduced numbers
:27:06. > :27:09.in the House of Commons, but in a position of very substantial
:27:10. > :27:14.influence indeed. And I know that my colleagues will seek to use that
:27:15. > :27:17.influence to keep the Conservative Party from power and to build a
:27:18. > :27:26.progressive alliance to take this country forward. And to avoid the
:27:27. > :27:31.calamity of hard Brexit. And then a little warning to his opponents.
:27:32. > :27:38.Just a phrase from an old Jacobite song, in the midst of your glee,
:27:39. > :27:46.you've not seen the last of my bonnets and me. Until then, the
:27:47. > :27:53.SNP's biggest loss had been there at Westminster leader Angus Robertson.
:27:54. > :27:58.The Conservatives overturned his majority in Moray of 10,000. For the
:27:59. > :28:02.Scottish Conservatives, an unbelievable night, the best result
:28:03. > :28:07.since 1983, as they picked up the fruits of the anti-independence
:28:08. > :28:13.message. I think we've seen the country's reaction in the number of
:28:14. > :28:20.SNP seats that have fallen. Indirect to is dead, Glenn, that's what's
:28:21. > :28:27.happened tonight. The SNP also lost seats to the Conservatives and
:28:28. > :28:32.acknowledge they should reflect on the result. I'm not going to rush to
:28:33. > :28:35.hasty judgments or decisions, but clearly there's thinking... Let's
:28:36. > :28:43.cross to Glenrothes for the declaration in Fife north-east.
:28:44. > :28:51.41,000 ballot papers were verified, giving a turnout of 71.3%. I give
:28:52. > :28:59.notice that the total number of votes cast for each candidate in the
:29:00. > :29:08.election was as follows. Rosalind Garton, Scottish Labour Party, 4026.
:29:09. > :29:19.Stephen Gethins, Scottish National Party, 13700 and 43. Tony Miklinski,
:29:20. > :29:28.Scottish Conservative and Unionist party, 10000 and 88. Janet Richards,
:29:29. > :29:41.Scottish Liberal Democrats, 13700 and 41. Mike Scott-Hayward,
:29:42. > :29:48.independent sovereign democratic Britain, 224. The total number of
:29:49. > :29:53.ballot papers allocated were 41,000 822. I declare Stephen Gethins to be
:29:54. > :30:01.elected to serve in parliament as a member for the Fife north-east
:30:02. > :30:06.constituency. The majority was two. A majority of just two in Fife
:30:07. > :30:12.north-east. Stephen Gethins a relieved man. Thank you for your
:30:13. > :30:17.extraordinary efforts tonight in what has been an extraordinary
:30:18. > :30:22.evening. Thank you to you. Can I thank Elizabeth, Tony and Rosalind
:30:23. > :30:27.for I think a well fought campaign, and thank you for the campaign we
:30:28. > :30:39.have fought. It has been a close one, I think it's fair to say.
:30:40. > :30:47.Second, volunteers from all political parties who make democracy
:30:48. > :30:52.work, who have been trudging round in the pouring rain today, you have
:30:53. > :30:56.my thanks, as well. And finally, on a personal note, my wife had a baby
:30:57. > :31:00.halfway through the selection and she has been an absolute hero, so
:31:01. > :31:08.thank you, and thanks very much, everybody. Thank you. He returns to
:31:09. > :31:11.the House of Commons defeating the Liberal Democrat challenge in five
:31:12. > :31:20.north-east by two votes. You can barely get much closer than that.
:31:21. > :31:25.Stephen Gethins winning with 13,743, the Liberal Democrats Elizabeth Rich
:31:26. > :31:31.is second with 13700 and 41. The Conservatives third in the seat.
:31:32. > :31:44.Several thousand votes behind, 10,088 for him. The turnout in five
:31:45. > :31:49.north-east, 71%. The SNP and the Lib Dems almost neck and neck in terms
:31:50. > :31:57.of share of the boat with 33% each, the Conservatives on 24, Labour on
:31:58. > :32:06.10%. -- of the vote. He was a change from two years ago, the SNP down 8%,
:32:07. > :32:14.the Conservatives up 8%, Labour up two and the SNP holding on despite a
:32:15. > :32:19.swing of 4.8% from the SNP to the Lib Dems. That was the last seat in
:32:20. > :32:25.Scotland to declare. The final total for the 59 constituencies in
:32:26. > :32:33.Scotland. The SNP finishing 35, down 21 one 2015, the Conservatives
:32:34. > :32:43.second with 13, up 12, Labour on seven, up six, the Lib Dems on four
:32:44. > :32:50.up three. Let's take a look at those aerial shots, they are from London,
:32:51. > :32:59.of the Labour Party. He has clearly of the Labour Party. He has clearly
:33:00. > :33:05.-- it is clearly anticipated that he will emerge from his House at some
:33:06. > :33:12.point. His position is clear on what is now a fairly firm outcome to this
:33:13. > :33:15.election, a hung Parliament, with the Conservatives as the biggest
:33:16. > :33:20.single party but short of that overall majority and in need of
:33:21. > :33:24.support from, perhaps, the Democratic Unionists all others in
:33:25. > :33:31.the House of Commons. Jeffrey Donaldson of the DUP has said, we
:33:32. > :33:34.have suddenly become very important. We will obviously talk to the
:33:35. > :33:39.Conservatives in the best interests of the UK. That was so Jeffrey
:33:40. > :33:49.Donaldson of the DUP. Let's cross once again to the Election Cafe to
:33:50. > :33:53.catch up with the owner. There has been no problem staying awake
:33:54. > :33:57.tonight. It has been shot after shot after shock after-shock. Kirsty
:33:58. > :34:01.Strickland is with us having made it through the night. It has been
:34:02. > :34:09.fascinating, hasn't it? Where do we go from here? What is des two going
:34:10. > :34:15.to hold for us? It will be all about manoeuvring. Before the campaign it
:34:16. > :34:19.was going to be about the chess match between Nicola Sturgeon and
:34:20. > :34:24.Theresa May and at the end of this campaign, this night, they are the
:34:25. > :34:29.two characters who have suffered the most. It will be interesting to see
:34:30. > :34:33.how they regroup and come back after this. It'll be down to the deals
:34:34. > :34:37.that will be done and whether or not Labour are willing to take the
:34:38. > :34:41.poisoned chalice if the arithmetic allows and Labour can form a
:34:42. > :34:45.minority government, then whether or not that will work out well for them
:34:46. > :34:50.in the long run is a different thing because with Brexit, if you break
:34:51. > :34:54.it, you buy it, and whoever forms the next government will have one
:34:55. > :34:57.hell of a task over the Brexit negotiations and in the long run
:34:58. > :35:00.strategically, it might work out better for Labour to hold fire and
:35:01. > :35:06.put pressure on when they can, which they will be able to do, now the
:35:07. > :35:11.Conservatives have suffered so many losses and, in the next five years,
:35:12. > :35:17.come back stronger. Interesting what Tom Harris has to say, former Labour
:35:18. > :35:24.MP, support or Brexit. You have got some interesting themes. What on
:35:25. > :35:30.earth is the second day going to hold? It will be 90% speculation
:35:31. > :35:38.about who is going to resign next and who's going to do a deal. The
:35:39. > :35:43.Constitution, unwritten though it is, suggests that the sitting Prime
:35:44. > :35:47.Minister, one that has a majority of a large number of seats will have a
:35:48. > :35:53.first chance to form a government. If the DUP come on board, which they
:35:54. > :35:59.probably will, I expect, Jeffrey Donaldson has said as much already,
:36:00. > :36:02.whether it is a formal deal or not, I expect this government will be
:36:03. > :36:08.able to limp on without any major defeats in the Commons, up to and
:36:09. > :36:15.beyond the Brexit talks but there is no doubt that this is a government
:36:16. > :36:24.that has been holed below the water line. Theresa May, her position is
:36:25. > :36:27.untenable. Even if she is replaced by someone, I would suggest David
:36:28. > :36:34.Davis if I was putting money on it, but it is not a government that can
:36:35. > :36:43.be asked -- in last five or ten minutes beyond the end of the Brexit
:36:44. > :36:48.negotiations. Is this a omnishambles? For the Conservatives
:36:49. > :36:55.that would be an improvement on what we have at the moment! What are your
:36:56. > :37:00.theories about what is going to unfold now? It hinges on what
:37:01. > :37:04.Theresa May decides to do now and what pressure she is put under
:37:05. > :37:09.inside the party. You have to talk about the fact that the exit
:37:10. > :37:14.negotiations start in 11 days' time but the other question is, if you go
:37:15. > :37:19.into this Brexit talks with all of those EU leaders thinking, actually,
:37:20. > :37:23.you are a lame duck, you went into this election with a 20% advantage
:37:24. > :37:27.in the opinion polls, you thought you would come out stronger and you
:37:28. > :37:30.have come out weaker, so she might have to consider future, there is
:37:31. > :37:34.the doubt about that whatsoever. Until that happens we won't do what
:37:35. > :37:39.the other parties can do. Jeremy Corbyn is going to do a speech this
:37:40. > :37:44.morning making all sorts of challenges that she should stand
:37:45. > :37:47.down. He will start setting out his stall, with scenarios about what the
:37:48. > :37:53.left can do with some kind of anti-Brexit alliance, but her
:37:54. > :37:56.decision is absolutely pivotal. A quick prediction, in a word, what
:37:57. > :38:06.happens next? I genuinely don't know. She can quite easily say, the
:38:07. > :38:11.nation requires stable leadership. If I was putting money on it I would
:38:12. > :38:15.say that we will continue with an already Conservative government led
:38:16. > :38:18.by someone other than Theresa May. I think we will see a swift
:38:19. > :38:23.resignation from Theresa May and a minority Conservative government. If
:38:24. > :38:26.you want to letters know your thoughts and views on what could
:38:27. > :38:38.possibly happen over the next few hours, weeks and months, remember it
:38:39. > :38:45.is #bbcelection. We are heading towards a minority of chaos, not a
:38:46. > :38:54.coalition of chaos, that was copyright Lord Purves of the Lib
:38:55. > :39:04.Dems. We will hear from the panel and a little while. We can cross the
:39:05. > :39:15.Glenrothes, there are still around going on were the SNP held on with
:39:16. > :39:21.two, Laura McIver. Stephen Gethins of the SNP winning with just two
:39:22. > :39:27.votes in it at the end after four counts in Glenrothes for the North
:39:28. > :39:32.Fife seat. It seems it went twice to the Lib Dems, two ties to the SNP.
:39:33. > :39:34.In the end there were deep discussions going on with the
:39:35. > :39:39.returning officer, their candidates and their agents who went on to make
:39:40. > :39:45.the declaration of Stephen Gethins as the winner. But the Lib Dem
:39:46. > :39:49.candidate in her speech on the state said that there could be further
:39:50. > :39:53.action after this vote because it was obviously such a close one.
:39:54. > :39:57.Things are winding down and victory has been declared but it sounds like
:39:58. > :40:00.it is possible that this could be something that ends up being
:40:01. > :40:06.challenged in a couple of days' time. Just to be clear, when the
:40:07. > :40:11.declaration was made, was that not, does it, in itself, mean that the
:40:12. > :40:16.Lib Dems, the two main contenders have accepted that result? You are
:40:17. > :40:20.saying that the Lib Dems have not accepted that result? It would
:40:21. > :40:25.appear that they had because that would be the end of it for them,
:40:26. > :40:29.being on the stage together, but she talked about the possibility of
:40:30. > :40:33.further action. Whether this is something that she could end up
:40:34. > :40:38.appealing for it, asking for it to be looked into further, I am not
:40:39. > :40:42.sure. Stephen Gethins has been declared the SNP MP for North East
:40:43. > :40:47.Fife after a very long night and lots and lots of counting. Thank you
:40:48. > :40:53.for keeping as a cross that story throughout the night. We will let
:40:54. > :41:02.you get away and have some rest. The majority last time was 5344 and that
:41:03. > :41:05.is down to two. It seems that after a recount and a further recount, the
:41:06. > :41:11.victim we switched sides on more than one occasion. Let me bring in
:41:12. > :41:15.Lord Purves for the Lib Dems. Is there anything your party or
:41:16. > :41:18.candidate could do, given that that declaration has now been made? Can I
:41:19. > :41:25.congratulate Elizabeth for the campaign that she thought? She did a
:41:26. > :41:29.brilliant job in the circumstances. As someone who was first elected
:41:30. > :41:34.after two recounts I can understand the nerves that would have been
:41:35. > :41:37.there. From my recollection in my count the returning officer can make
:41:38. > :41:42.a decision and that is the decision that will stand on the night and it
:41:43. > :41:49.would be up for our agent and party to consider their options going
:41:50. > :41:53.forward. Just because of a candidate was on the stage it doesn't mean we
:41:54. > :41:56.are fully accepted the result. The returning officer can make a
:41:57. > :42:01.decision in that situation. The principle is that we will Act
:42:02. > :42:06.honourably and Stephen Gethins' speech was gracious but I would
:42:07. > :42:10.commend Elizabeth for the campaign that she fought and we will make
:42:11. > :42:20.sure that all options are considered. In 1997, Gerry Malone,
:42:21. > :42:26.the MP for Aberdeen South and then the MP for Winchester, he lost that
:42:27. > :42:30.seat by two votes, to the Lib Dems who contested the result in the High
:42:31. > :42:36.Court, the result was declared void, the election was called again and
:42:37. > :42:41.Gerry Malone lost the subsequent by-election by 21,000 votes. Voters
:42:42. > :42:47.tend not to like it if their verdict is challenged. The circumstances
:42:48. > :42:54.that were very different and also the dynamic of the campaign was very
:42:55. > :42:57.different. Quite interesting, that constituency. You are right to say
:42:58. > :43:02.that, at some point the returning officer is the returning officer, at
:43:03. > :43:09.some point he can say, that is it, I am calling it. You saying that there
:43:10. > :43:12.was a possibility that the Liberal Democrats will challenge this result
:43:13. > :43:17.in court? I don't want to read anything into this at this stage
:43:18. > :43:22.because after those number of recounts, everyone needs to just
:43:23. > :43:26.pause slightly and consider the options, including the agents
:43:27. > :43:31.involved. I've been in that situation and that six, seven
:43:32. > :43:34.o'clock in the morning, ultimately, what is important is that
:43:35. > :43:40.everybody's vote has to be properly counted. Innovations we operate a
:43:41. > :43:49.first past the post system and every vote has to be counted. It did not
:43:50. > :43:53.help that in that constituency the Conservatives were campaigning so
:43:54. > :44:01.that they had a chance to win it... A political postmortem, Shirley-Anne
:44:02. > :44:05.Somerville. I can appreciate that pensions would be running high at
:44:06. > :44:11.that count. His nerves must be absolutely frayed. I am delighted to
:44:12. > :44:17.see him re-elected. I spent quite a bit of time in that seat myself and
:44:18. > :44:22.I know what a tremendous amount of hard work he and his team have done.
:44:23. > :44:28.A period of reflection now, this is not the time for hasty decision iss
:44:29. > :44:33.and talking about the courts, but Stephen Gethins has been a fantastic
:44:34. > :44:37.MP during his time and it has been a good into the night for the SNP.
:44:38. > :44:41.Would it be sour grapes if the Liberal Democrats decided to
:44:42. > :44:46.challenge, which is a perfectly legitimate course of action given
:44:47. > :44:50.how close it was? We have to look at the different circumstances and
:44:51. > :44:55.opportunities for them. He has been declared winner in that
:44:56. > :44:59.constituency, he's a worthy winner and I would be very disappointed if
:45:00. > :45:07.the Lib Dems, with a period of reflection, didn't accept the
:45:08. > :45:08.result. Let's cross once again to Jackie Bird for more news on this
:45:09. > :45:19.extraordinary election. You might have gone to bed last
:45:20. > :45:24.night believing the UK had a self build strong and stable Prime
:45:25. > :45:27.Minister, but look at these figures. No overall majority. The
:45:28. > :45:33.Conservatives have lost 12 seats and Labour have gained 29, with about 12
:45:34. > :45:37.seats still to be declared. Theresa May is being asked to consider her
:45:38. > :45:43.future after her election gamble backfired, leaving the UK with a
:45:44. > :45:47.hung parliament. Scottish Secretary David Mundell dismissed suggestions
:45:48. > :45:51.she should stand down. She is still the best person to lead us into
:45:52. > :46:00.those Brexit negotiations. We will see the shape of the new parliament
:46:01. > :46:04.when all the results are in. I think that will determine the nature of
:46:05. > :46:10.things going forward, particularly the approach people take. What I
:46:11. > :46:14.hope, as a result of the result in Scotland is that Nicola Sturgeon
:46:15. > :46:19.Baltic plan for it divides of second independence referendum of the
:46:20. > :46:24.table. And we will see the SNP forward actually coming forward in a
:46:25. > :46:26.constructive way. With all the seats declared in Scotland,
:46:27. > :46:33.notwithstanding any legal challenges, Unite of surprises and a
:46:34. > :46:38.historic wrist versions -- a historic resurgence for the
:46:39. > :46:42.Conservatives. The SNP remains the biggest party. Labour also had a
:46:43. > :46:47.good night and an increase for the Lib Dems. The last result was the
:46:48. > :46:54.closest, after those recounts, North East Fife was retained by the SNP by
:46:55. > :46:59.just two votes. This eviction will be characterised by the loss of some
:47:00. > :47:03.of the SNP's biggest beasts, among them Alex Salmond and Angus
:47:04. > :47:11.Robertson. A quick look at the newspaper coverage. The headlines
:47:12. > :47:17.illustrating both the losses of the Tories across the UK and the SNP.
:47:18. > :47:23.Just seven constituencies still to declare in the UK, six being
:47:24. > :47:27.defended by the Conservatives. Richmond Park, Kensington, Cornwall
:47:28. > :47:32.Southeast and Cornwall North, and one being defended by the Labour
:47:33. > :47:36.Party in Dudley North. While we wait for those results, let's cross to
:47:37. > :47:41.David Henderson. What are you looking at now?
:47:42. > :47:46.Let me bring you up-to-date with the situation in Scotland. It's been an
:47:47. > :47:50.exciting night. We're close to the finish line. Let's remind you how
:47:51. > :47:54.the election has turned out in Scotland. Remember where we started.
:47:55. > :48:00.This was the electoral map for the last two years, all those SNP seats
:48:01. > :48:05.in yellow. Let's bring you up to date. This is the way the election
:48:06. > :48:09.has turned out, this is the new political map of Scotland. Labour
:48:10. > :48:15.gained six seats from the SNP. The Lib Dems have gained three and the
:48:16. > :48:22.Tories have gained 12 seats. You can see in the Borders and the
:48:23. > :48:28.north-east and in Perthshire. Some high-profile losses for the SNP.
:48:29. > :48:35.Alex Salmond losing his Gordon seat to the Tories, and the party's
:48:36. > :48:41.deputy leader Angus Robertson also losing out in Moray. That was also
:48:42. > :48:47.thanks to a strong surge from the Tories. Let's see how the parties
:48:48. > :48:53.are faring after all that. The Lib Dems led by Willie Rennie have four
:48:54. > :48:57.MPs in Scotland. Labour led by Kezia Dugdale now hold seven seats in
:48:58. > :49:03.Scotland. It's been a great night for Ruth Davidson of the Tories.
:49:04. > :49:10.They now have 13 seats. And the SNP, they have lost 21 seats, but there
:49:11. > :49:14.still a long way in front of 35. So a disappointing night for Nicola
:49:15. > :49:17.Sturgeon, but they are still far away the biggest Scottish party at
:49:18. > :49:23.Westminster. Thanks, David. Let's cross live to
:49:24. > :49:26.Glenrothes once again and speak to the last and be elected in Scotland
:49:27. > :49:32.in this general election, by a margin of just two votes, he is
:49:33. > :49:37.Stephen Gethins of the SNP. Re-elected in Fife north-east. As
:49:38. > :49:43.your colleague Shirley-Anne Somerville said a short time ago,
:49:44. > :49:50.your nerves must be short. Yes, it was quite a long night, but it was
:49:51. > :49:57.ultimately a good night. And have pay full credit to the counters who
:49:58. > :50:01.have been up all night, as well as the presiding officer here, and I'm
:50:02. > :50:06.frankly grateful to everybody who re-elected me. Yes, it was a
:50:07. > :50:13.nerve-racking night. You majority reduced dramatically, from more than
:50:14. > :50:17.4000 to just two, as I mentioned. Is your victory secure, or do you
:50:18. > :50:24.expect it will now be challenged by the Lib Dems? The people in North
:50:25. > :50:29.East Fife made a decision. It's my job to represent them all,
:50:30. > :50:33.regardless of how they voted. The presiding officer made a very clear
:50:34. > :50:37.decision tonight, and I respect that decision. You respect the decision,
:50:38. > :50:40.but there has been some suggestion that the Lib Dems may consider
:50:41. > :50:47.challenging it, perhaps in the courts or by some other means. Would
:50:48. > :50:53.you be happy to go through that process and defend the win that has
:50:54. > :50:58.been declared? The people of North East Fife have made a decision. Yes,
:50:59. > :51:03.it was tight that often happens in a first past the post system. The Lib
:51:04. > :51:07.Dems and the SNP agree we want a more proportional system, but the
:51:08. > :51:10.decision has been made. I've got a job to get on with, and in this
:51:11. > :51:15.Parliament, that will be a lot of big decisions to be made, that will
:51:16. > :51:18.affect everybody in North East Fife, not just on Europe, but on public
:51:19. > :51:24.spending and pensions and I look forward to getting on with that job.
:51:25. > :51:30.Congratulations on your win. Thanks very much taking the time to speak
:51:31. > :51:34.to us. Stephen Gethins live from the count in Glenrothes. Let's go live
:51:35. > :51:40.to Downing Street for the first this morning and speak to the BBC's
:51:41. > :51:43.political editor. What do you make of it?
:51:44. > :51:48.We're waiting to hear from the Prime Minister, who is now in number ten
:51:49. > :51:51.Downing St behind me. She came from Conservative Party headquarters,
:51:52. > :51:57.where Doctor party workers and closest advisers. The questions of
:51:58. > :52:02.many people are asking is will Theresa May choose to soldier on as
:52:03. > :52:06.Prime Minister after that most poetic of election victories, a
:52:07. > :52:12.painful election victory, which has weakened her authority are acutely
:52:13. > :52:18.mortally. It has shaken politics up in a dramatic way as we head towards
:52:19. > :52:22.Brexit. Those negotiations due to begin in about 11 days' time. Will
:52:23. > :52:31.she choose to take this woman to call for the removal van? We don't
:52:32. > :52:43.know. I asked a contact in the party earlier and they said they had no
:52:44. > :52:47.idea. It did sound a few hours ago that she was talking about
:52:48. > :52:51.continuing stability, but we will see. This has been a mortal blow,
:52:52. > :52:54.it's very difficult to see her recovering. Uncertainty lies ahead
:52:55. > :53:01.and most uncertain time for the country.
:53:02. > :53:05.The former cabinet secretary Lord Turnbull has gone on record to say
:53:06. > :53:09.that she should resign, but what are people saying within the
:53:10. > :53:12.Conservative Party? Because ultimately, they are really the only
:53:13. > :53:19.people who could push her out, aren't they? It wouldn't take much
:53:20. > :53:29.pressure, frankly from within the Conservative Party to make her go?
:53:30. > :53:35.But if she is minded to stay. So far, we have heard from Anna simply
:53:36. > :53:44.saying that is Theresa May should consider her future. That is called
:53:45. > :53:47.for she thinks she should go. Anna Soubry is not isolated on this and
:53:48. > :53:52.there will be other Tories of this in mind. Theresa May called this
:53:53. > :53:56.snap election with the sole idea of taking the Conservative Party to an
:53:57. > :54:00.unassailable position with the vastly increased majority. She may
:54:01. > :54:04.have done it reluctantly after reflection, but she didn't. Some may
:54:05. > :54:12.say she must answer for that. But it's not just that, the conduct of
:54:13. > :54:15.the campaign did not go terribly well, did it? The manifesto launch,
:54:16. > :54:20.the announcement of that big policy on social care for the elderly. An
:54:21. > :54:26.announcement, then every street and then an attempt to pretend that
:54:27. > :54:34.nothing had really changed and there had not been a U-turn. It looked
:54:35. > :54:37.like MS, it was, frankly, a mess, and Theresa May will bear the burden
:54:38. > :54:43.of that. The consequence of that will be a couple of things, one, if
:54:44. > :54:47.the Prime Minister carries on, will be under pressure in her party to
:54:48. > :54:51.change the way of leading things. To listen to more people when taking
:54:52. > :55:02.decisions, to rely less on that tiny circle of advisers. Senior
:55:03. > :55:05.officials, the so-called mandolins, they will want to see their
:55:06. > :55:08.departments and their advice not just heard, but he did. Theresa May
:55:09. > :55:15.will be under pressure from all sorts of different directions. Good
:55:16. > :55:19.to hear from you, thanks very much. Let's speak to our political editor
:55:20. > :55:23.here in Scotland, Brian Taylor. I said when I next get back to you, I
:55:24. > :55:26.would ask you for names in the frame if there's a leadership contest in
:55:27. > :55:31.the Conservative Party. Given that she has won her seat in difficult
:55:32. > :55:36.circumstances and is regarded as relatively stable, Boris Johnson
:55:37. > :55:43.would be a manoeuvre is once again. I think David Davis would be the
:55:44. > :55:48.most likely of the contenders. He was tipped, if you remember, to win
:55:49. > :55:51.the leadership when David Cameron took it perhaps with a single
:55:52. > :55:56.speech, perhaps more with his flamboyant approach and open
:55:57. > :56:00.approach and new approach to the Conservative leadership. I think he
:56:01. > :56:03.will be seen as experienced individual, but above all, he is the
:56:04. > :56:11.one who has emerged of the triumvirate of ministers gifted with
:56:12. > :56:17.the joy of dealing with Brexit, it is David Davis who has emerged as
:56:18. > :56:21.incontestably the prime figure in that triumvirate, because Boris
:56:22. > :56:27.Johnson has been sidelined and so has Liam Fox. I think he would be
:56:28. > :56:29.the one, but you have to look at the Chancellor Philip Hammond, given the
:56:30. > :56:38.difficulties caused as a result of his budget overtaxation. I can't see
:56:39. > :56:50.him winning. Michael Gove, not a chance. Let's go back to our
:56:51. > :56:59.political panel and say hello to a new member, Fiona Hyslop, Cabinet
:57:00. > :57:04.Secretary, SNP. We haven't heard yet from Morris called and James Kelly.
:57:05. > :57:09.Morris, from a conservative point of view, who would you want to take
:57:10. > :57:15.over from Theresa May, where the vacancy? I think you need to step
:57:16. > :57:18.back from that for a minute. If you look at the options on the table, we
:57:19. > :57:24.have Theresa May Jeremy Corbyn. Faced with that choice, the only
:57:25. > :57:29.choice was strength and stability is ultimately Theresa May. And I don't
:57:30. > :57:32.see any... She doesn't look very strong or stable, given that she
:57:33. > :57:36.called an election we didn't need to have, in order to strengthen her
:57:37. > :57:40.mandate, to get her own mandate to increase the Conservative grip on
:57:41. > :57:46.power, and has completely failed to do so. If you look at where we are
:57:47. > :57:52.now, from a Scottish perspective, it is bittersweet. I'm topping about
:57:53. > :57:55.the UK perspective, where we have a hung parliament. Can Theresa May
:57:56. > :58:01.really expect to carry on as Prime Minister in the circumstances? She
:58:02. > :58:03.certainly can, and I'd encourage all of the UK parliamentarians to work
:58:04. > :58:10.in the interests of the United Kingdom. We have to get the best
:58:11. > :58:13.possible deal out of Brexit, and I believe that Theresa May is
:58:14. > :58:17.certainly well positioned to do that, to negotiate the best possible
:58:18. > :58:23.deal and reach out across Westminster to help deliver that for
:58:24. > :58:28.the benefit of the United Kingdom. Let me bring in James Kelly. Labour
:58:29. > :58:33.went into this election, there were no great expectations of your party
:58:34. > :58:38.coming close, in the end, you have done better than perhaps many
:58:39. > :58:41.expected, but you haven't won. You are well off the numbers the
:58:42. > :58:48.Conservatives have achieved. Will there be questions over Jeremy
:58:49. > :58:51.Corbyn's future as party leader? At the start of this election, there
:58:52. > :58:55.were commentators who wrote of the Labour Party and said it was the end
:58:56. > :59:03.of the party. From what we've seen, both in Scotland and in the UK, the
:59:04. > :59:08.Labour Party have rejuvenated, the public have responded to Kezia
:59:09. > :59:14.Dugdale and Jeremy Corbyn and the strong policies are putting across,
:59:15. > :59:23.the investment in public services. Opposing the Tory and SNP cuts and a
:59:24. > :59:26.second in defence. -- a second independence referendum. Jeremy
:59:27. > :59:33.Corbyn was more equivocal about his opposition to the referendum, not
:59:34. > :59:36.ruling out the Hollywood power to do so. Both Kezia Dugdale and Jeremy
:59:37. > :59:40.Corbyn were very clear that the country didn't need a referendum and
:59:41. > :59:44.didn't need independence, which would lead to double charged
:59:45. > :59:50.austerity. The Labour Party comes out of this election with more
:59:51. > :59:54.seats, mournful as and a much stronger position. You say that, but
:59:55. > :59:58.in Scotland, you are the third-place party behind the Conservatives. They
:59:59. > :00:02.have completed their overhaul of Labour, having done it in local
:00:03. > :00:04.government and in Holyrood, and they have now done it in Westminster from
:00:05. > :00:21.a Scottish point of view as well. It has been a remarkable performance
:00:22. > :00:25.from Labour in Scotland who have been rejuvenated as a result. The
:00:26. > :00:31.real questions in Scotland are for the SNP... That is where we're going
:00:32. > :00:38.next. Fiona Hyslop has been sitting patiently waiting her turn. If you
:00:39. > :00:42.haven't done so extraordinarily well in the 2015 election, because,
:00:43. > :00:46.having won the selection, it doesn't feel like that. That was a
:00:47. > :00:51.phenomenal, once a century election. Looking at the last two whistler
:00:52. > :00:55.selections they have been the best results for the SNP in the history
:00:56. > :01:03.of our party at Westminster. We have won the election and we are sorry to
:01:04. > :01:07.see some standing colleagues at Pressman still lose seats, but the
:01:08. > :01:13.people of Scotland have rejected Labour and Conservatives. Have more
:01:14. > :01:22.seats than Conservatives, labour and the Lib Dems added together. That
:01:23. > :01:27.puts is in a strong position with the above has to be put forward and
:01:28. > :02:23.the mandate that Niklas vision has won to be part of the
:02:24. > :02:29.Will mandate was secured barely a year ago. That is what we are taking
:02:30. > :02:33.forward. The timing of this is for a whole variety of things. Most of it
:02:34. > :02:41.is not in our control and the Brexit Jose certainly isn't. I'm about to
:02:42. > :02:44.go to Austria to put forward the Scottish position in Europe. These
:02:45. > :02:48.things happen very quickly indeed. We don't want to be paralysed by a
:02:49. > :02:56.Westminster government that cannot get its act together. We are ready
:02:57. > :02:59.to negotiate and discuss that. That Progressive alliance that has been
:03:00. > :03:02.put forward. We are clearer on what we want from the European
:03:03. > :03:07.discussions. That is something that we want to take forward very
:03:08. > :03:13.quickly. We will move across once again to Glenrothes and speak to
:03:14. > :03:18.Elizabeth Richards, the Lib Dem candidate in the Fife north-east
:03:19. > :03:25.constituency. Good morning, Elizabeth, commiserations on the
:03:26. > :03:36.result. Is it a result that you accept? We are incredibly proud of
:03:37. > :03:41.this result because it shows how many people in North East Fife
:03:42. > :03:46.accept our message that we do not see the necessity for a second
:03:47. > :03:51.independence referendum, they accept our concern is that we need to be
:03:52. > :03:54.working to minimise the effects of a hard Brexit and they also accept the
:03:55. > :04:03.many positive aspects of our manifesto. You're saying that the
:04:04. > :04:11.voters of Fife north-east accept all of that but actually they have
:04:12. > :04:15.accepted, elected an SNP MP who are proposing a referendum on
:04:16. > :04:21.independence. No, what I said was, we are delighted at the number of
:04:22. > :04:26.people who have accepted our message, and the result had two
:04:27. > :04:31.votes in it, and that is all. They have very narrowly accepted it. Do
:04:32. > :04:36.you accept the outcome in Fife north-east, because there was a
:04:37. > :04:44.suggestion that you and your party might seek to challenge it, because
:04:45. > :04:48.it was so close? We, as a party made a logical request to the returning
:04:49. > :04:53.officer for a further recount and this is a matter that will be
:04:54. > :05:02.considered. What do you mean by that, considered, to what end?
:05:03. > :05:09.Tonight, a la concentration is on the success of the campaign that he
:05:10. > :05:15.ran. We are delighted in getting our message across to so many people. It
:05:16. > :05:19.has been a very, very hard fought campaign. And it is fair to say it
:05:20. > :05:24.has been a very amicable one with all the other contestants. I know
:05:25. > :05:29.that you will say that there will be further considerations and we'll
:05:30. > :05:31.watch this with interest. Elizabeth Richards, the Lib Dem candidate
:05:32. > :05:41.finishing second in Fife north-east. finishing second in Fife north-east.
:05:42. > :05:44.-- Elizabeth Riches. It is the morning after the election night
:05:45. > :05:49.before, and what a dramatic night it has been. The election has resulted
:05:50. > :05:53.in a hung Parliament with the Conservatives the largest party
:05:54. > :05:57.across the UK, but short of the overall majority, the increased
:05:58. > :06:02.majority, that Theresa May so desperately sought, when she called
:06:03. > :06:06.this election. Big questions about her future. Jeremy Corbyn finishing
:06:07. > :06:10.well behind the Conservatives but seems to be in a much more secure
:06:11. > :06:15.position. In Scotland the SNP has won the election but with a much
:06:16. > :06:20.reduced number of seats in this contest, and the Conservatives,
:06:21. > :06:25.making big gains, along with gains also for Labour and the Lib Dems.
:06:26. > :06:28.The Conservative Leader, with Davidson, suggesting that talk of a
:06:29. > :06:33.second independence referendum is dead, although in the discussions we
:06:34. > :06:37.have just had with SNP Cabinet Secretary Fiona Hyslop, it doesn't
:06:38. > :06:41.sound like that is the case. The First Minister and SNP leader Nicola
:06:42. > :06:46.Sturgeon has said she intends to reflect on this result before making
:06:47. > :06:51.any decisions about the future of her wishes to have that second
:06:52. > :06:54.independence vote. Lots of seats changing hands, not least in
:06:55. > :06:57.Scotland, let's get all the big developments from overnight with our
:06:58. > :07:07.political correspondent, Andrew care. James Clark, Scottish
:07:08. > :07:10.Conservative and Unionist, 21,000 861. SNP might be the overall
:07:11. > :07:14.winners but they have had the biggest losers, with the people of
:07:15. > :07:19.Gordon ousting the former First Minister. Alex Salmond said that the
:07:20. > :07:23.SNP had suffered a grievous blow but said they could still play a big
:07:24. > :07:29.part at Westminster. The SNP might well find itself in reduced numbers
:07:30. > :07:34.in the House of Commons but in a position of very substantial
:07:35. > :07:37.influence indeed. I know that my colleagues will seek to use that
:07:38. > :07:41.influence to keep the Conservative Party from power, and to build a
:07:42. > :07:50.progressive alliance to take this country forward. And then a little
:07:51. > :08:05.warning to his opponents. A phrase from an old Jacobite song, you have
:08:06. > :08:11.not seen the last of my bonnet and mead. The biggest SNP loss was there
:08:12. > :08:18.was Mr leader Angus Robertson. The Conservatives overturned his
:08:19. > :08:20.majority in Moray 10,000. For the Scottish Conservatives an
:08:21. > :08:25.unbelievable night, the best result since 1983, as they picked up the
:08:26. > :08:31.fruits of their anti-independence message. We have seen the country's
:08:32. > :08:35.reaction in a number of SNP seats that have fallen. Indyref2 is dead.
:08:36. > :08:45.That is what has happened tonight. As the North East turned blue, the
:08:46. > :08:49.SNP lost seats to the Tories in Ayr and in South Perthshire. We will not
:08:50. > :08:54.rush to hasty judgments or decisions. There was thinking for me
:08:55. > :08:58.to do about the SNP result. I'm not going to lose sight of the fact that
:08:59. > :09:01.the SNP has won this election in Scotland, but clearly, equally, I am
:09:02. > :09:09.not going to gloss over the fact that we have suffered some losses
:09:10. > :09:11.this evening. Labour have been criticised for campaigning against
:09:12. > :09:16.indyref2 but they have seen the benefit of that strategy and have
:09:17. > :09:19.been buoyed up by Jeremy Corbyn bounce with the Labour Leader now
:09:20. > :09:22.secure in his own position. They welcomed their return to Glasgow
:09:23. > :09:29.North East, they won in East Lothian and made other surprising gains. It
:09:30. > :09:31.has been an encouraging night for Labour with the prounion,
:09:32. > :09:36.anti-austerity message cutting through, and I am delighted. The SNP
:09:37. > :09:48.retain North East Fife by just two votes over the Lib Dems. The former
:09:49. > :09:52.government minister Jo Swinson also took out the SNP's John Nicolson in
:09:53. > :09:59.East Dunbartonshire. It is a resounding vote of confidence in me
:10:00. > :10:02.and also to send a clear message on the views of East Dunbartonshire
:10:03. > :10:07.residents about the idea of a second independence referendum. People here
:10:08. > :10:12.do not want it and the SNP really need to think again on that. Back to
:10:13. > :10:17.the Conservatives, and it was a tale of two Tory parties, joy in Scotland
:10:18. > :10:21.but this pair down south with Theresa May's election gamble
:10:22. > :10:26.proving disastrous with a hung Parliament. As we look ahead and we
:10:27. > :10:31.wait to see what the results will be, I know that, as I say, the
:10:32. > :10:36.country needs a period of stability. The people of the UK and the people
:10:37. > :10:42.of Scotland have spoken. Loud voices have told the politicians exactly
:10:43. > :10:47.what they think. Let's cross live to David Henderson now for an election
:10:48. > :10:54.overview, David. It is tough at the top. It is hard to gain the keys to
:10:55. > :10:59.Number Ten, and hard to hang onto them. Theresa May might have to move
:11:00. > :11:04.house sooner than she expected, because that has to others in the
:11:05. > :11:10.past. There is Margaret Thatcher, a towering figure during 11 years in
:11:11. > :11:15.office, very controversial, but the poll tax riots and a report by
:11:16. > :11:20.heroin party forced from office. She was replaced mid term by a gentler
:11:21. > :11:23.figure, John Major, who got on his soapbox during the 1992 election
:11:24. > :11:30.campaign and beat Labour against the odds. His later years in office saw
:11:31. > :11:35.the Tories mired in infighting over Europe, and he was swept from power
:11:36. > :11:40.by Tony Blair. A thumping majority allow them to deliver a Scottish
:11:41. > :11:45.Parliament, but his second term was dominated by the Iraq war, and a
:11:46. > :11:48.growing rift with his Chancellor, Gordon Brown. Mr Brown barely had
:11:49. > :11:53.his feet under the desk at Number Ten win the world banking crisis
:11:54. > :11:58.struck. He would lose his early election as Prime Minister. That
:11:59. > :12:01.brought David Cameron of the Tories to power in partnership with the Lib
:12:02. > :12:08.Dems, the first coalition government since the war. There are critics
:12:09. > :12:11.oppose them -- criticise them for imposing austerity. Then David
:12:12. > :12:14.Cameron won his second election outright so it was goodbye to the
:12:15. > :12:20.Lib Dems and hello, EU referendum. Mr Cameron led the campaign to
:12:21. > :12:24.remain in Europe, he lost and promptly resigned, which brings us
:12:25. > :12:29.to Theresa May. She called this election early, in a bid to win a
:12:30. > :12:33.strong mandate ahead of Brexit negotiations. That seems to have got
:12:34. > :12:37.her into some trouble this morning, returning with the largest party at
:12:38. > :12:42.Westminster, but with fewer seats than before. As we have seen in
:12:43. > :12:47.politics, you don't always get what you want. It is a tough business.
:12:48. > :12:55.The people decide and the power that is given to a Prime Minister can be
:12:56. > :13:00.taken away. With the Conservatives the largest party, the expectation
:13:01. > :13:03.is that they would form the lead in the next administration, perhaps
:13:04. > :13:08.leading a minority government with support from the Democratic Unionist
:13:09. > :13:10.Party in Northern Ireland, certainly, DUP figures have said
:13:11. > :13:16.they would be willing to talk with the Conservatives. Let me bring in
:13:17. > :13:22.Brian Taylor, our political editor, at this stage. From a later point of
:13:23. > :13:26.view, the Shadow Chancellor Joe McDonnell saying that he wants
:13:27. > :13:29.Labour to form a minority government and he is challenging parties
:13:30. > :13:35.including the SNP, the Lib Dems and the Greens, to back that. Is that
:13:36. > :13:40.even a possibility? It is not all that feasible. The way that these
:13:41. > :13:44.things work, it is not a presidential election but a
:13:45. > :13:50.parliamentary election. The palace, the Queen and her advisers will
:13:51. > :13:54.invite an individual to be Prime Minister and that individual has to
:13:55. > :13:57.be able to demonstrate that he or she can command a majority in the
:13:58. > :14:02.House of Commons and form a stable government. The first indication
:14:03. > :14:07.will go to Theresa May. It will be, Theresa May, how's it going, tough
:14:08. > :14:10.luck and all that, but can you form a government, and you have two show
:14:11. > :14:15.evidence that you can. Failing that perhaps someone else from the
:14:16. > :14:18.Conservative Party will form a government and if Labour cannot form
:14:19. > :14:24.a majority, guess what? Another election. That is quite a prospect.
:14:25. > :14:29.The think that the Queen says tough luck? I doubt it very much, perhaps
:14:30. > :14:37.it is what some of her advisers might say. Theresa May, one
:14:38. > :14:42.suggestion coming out of Westminster at the moment is that she definitely
:14:43. > :14:47.will not go in the short term, got somebody needs to answer the call
:14:48. > :14:51.from the palace, and if it is not her, then the Palace might well
:14:52. > :14:57.offer the opportunity to Jeremy Corbyn and allow Labour to seize the
:14:58. > :15:00.initiative. A week on Monday, somebody needs to go and start
:15:01. > :15:06.negotiations with the other 27 members of the European Union. I
:15:07. > :15:09.would doubt if those members are enemy to postpone something that was
:15:10. > :15:14.brought about by the UK Government and not brought about at the will of
:15:15. > :15:19.those other 27. They will say, tough luck, you didn't need to call a
:15:20. > :15:23.Brexit referendum. And you certainly didn't need to call an election in
:15:24. > :15:30.the meantime. Be there, a week on Monday.
:15:31. > :15:37.Fiona, what do you think a group of 35 SNP MPs, what kind of influence
:15:38. > :15:43.might they have in this situation? And what will they be arguing for?
:15:44. > :15:47.We have said we would want to see a progressive Alliance to make sure
:15:48. > :15:54.that the Conservative programme, not least their austerity programme, can
:15:55. > :15:58.be shelved. We want to see the cliff edge hard Brexit prevented. There
:15:59. > :16:05.might not even be a deal, and they were talking about no deal is better
:16:06. > :16:12.than a bad deal. Is that feasible? I remember the outcome of the 2007
:16:13. > :16:15.election at Holyrood, when the SNP finished with one more seat than
:16:16. > :16:19.Labour, and the assertion was made at that point that if you get the
:16:20. > :16:24.most seats, you get a shot at forming a government. Do you accept
:16:25. > :16:31.that the Conservatives get the first shot at forming a government? So
:16:32. > :16:34.there is unlikely to be a Progressive Alliance. That is
:16:35. > :16:39.dependent on Theresa May being able to form a government and weather she
:16:40. > :16:47.has other parties, the DUP or others, to work with. And also her
:16:48. > :16:51.own party. There may be people in her own party, because of this farce
:16:52. > :16:57.than election that didn't have to happen, she had a court case and an
:16:58. > :17:02.election shouldn't have to have, she has made a mess of that, so within
:17:03. > :17:06.her party, there must be people asking if they will stay with
:17:07. > :17:10.Theresa May when she has made such a mess. The pressure for her would
:17:11. > :17:14.just be from other parties perhaps having a Progressive Alliance, it
:17:15. > :17:21.may well be from her own party. We are not in a stable position at all.
:17:22. > :17:26.As we heard from David Henderson, the Conservatives can be ruthless
:17:27. > :17:33.when it comes to changing leaders. How much pressure do you think she
:17:34. > :17:37.will come under in the coming days? I think but got to look at this
:17:38. > :17:42.pragmatically. Theresa May is still the best person to lead the United
:17:43. > :17:46.Kingdom into the negotiations. Talk from the owner of a Progressive
:17:47. > :17:52.Alliance, with John McDonnell, it will be more like a Marxist
:17:53. > :17:56.Alliance. There is Jeremy Corbyn, leader of the Labour Party, leading,
:17:57. > :18:02.leaving his home in London. But supporters and lots of media
:18:03. > :18:08.surrounding his car as he heads off, perhaps to the House of Commons,
:18:09. > :18:12.perhaps to Labour headquarters. Not certainly at this stage to
:18:13. > :18:17.Buckingham Palace. I don't think anybody has had that particular call
:18:18. > :18:21.just yet. Morris, you would expect to Theresa May to get that call
:18:22. > :18:27.unless she decides herself, having set herself the target of increasing
:18:28. > :18:33.the Tory majority, and completely blowing that, she might think the
:18:34. > :18:38.game is up, I need to go. The rationale for holding the general
:18:39. > :18:43.election was to provide that strong and stable Westminster parliament. I
:18:44. > :18:50.do you keep putting her mantra, but things don't look very stable now. I
:18:51. > :18:54.fully accept that. In Scotland, it's a completely different scenario, but
:18:55. > :19:00.across the UK, we are now in a position where we do not have that
:19:01. > :19:05.strength. We have a hung parliament scenario, and we have got to, all of
:19:06. > :19:09.us, work together to make sure we deliver the best deal for the UK. I
:19:10. > :19:15.believe that is with Theresa May leading the government. Might we
:19:16. > :19:19.need some kind of national government at this time, James
:19:20. > :19:23.Kelly, where parties that disagree on so many things, come together and
:19:24. > :19:28.try to hammer out some kind of compromise agreement on Brexit,
:19:29. > :19:33.given that that is arguably the single biggest issue facing the
:19:34. > :19:37.country as a whole? I think the first thing to say is that Theresa
:19:38. > :19:40.May's reputation is in tatters because of this. Don't forget, she
:19:41. > :19:46.went to the country with the political objective of achieving a
:19:47. > :19:50.bigger majority in order to strengthen her hands in the Brexit
:19:51. > :19:55.negotiations. She returns to Westminster with less seats and
:19:56. > :20:00.diminished authority and therefore, the real question is as to weather
:20:01. > :20:04.she is able to carry on or not. In terms of how you then move that
:20:05. > :20:08.forward, I think that's going to leave a gap and therefore, it is
:20:09. > :20:15.quite legitimate for the Labour Party to put forward the view that
:20:16. > :20:20.we could fill that gap as a minority administration. That is what the
:20:21. > :20:25.Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell is proposing. Do you think that is
:20:26. > :20:30.realistic? I think there's a gap in the political spectrum, because
:20:31. > :20:34.Theresa May's reputation is in tatters. At this point she says
:20:35. > :20:39.she's going to carry on, but I don't think that's credible. I do that we
:20:40. > :20:44.actually know. I have suggested different scenarios. You didn't seem
:20:45. > :20:48.to imply that. I'm explaining to you that I have heard different
:20:49. > :20:52.scenarios from Westminster and elsewhere. We simply do not know
:20:53. > :20:57.what Theresa May's one view is that at the moment. Jeremy Purvis for the
:20:58. > :21:02.Lib Dems, your party has picked up some seats. You just lost the seat
:21:03. > :21:06.you want in the by-election in Richmond Park, going back to the
:21:07. > :21:09.Conservatives. And overall, you have not made the sort of progress in
:21:10. > :21:14.this election that Tim Farren set out to come up with a distinctive
:21:15. > :21:20.position you set out on Brexit. Will there be questions over his
:21:21. > :21:24.leadership? I don't think so. We have seen some spectacular gains,
:21:25. > :21:29.especially in Scotland, with the three additional seats and the
:21:30. > :21:33.incredibly close result in North East Fife. Our gains in Scotland
:21:34. > :21:38.means there are people with Lib Dem MPs and we will expect them not only
:21:39. > :21:41.to fight for their constituents in the House of Commons, but to try and
:21:42. > :21:46.add some form of sense to what is going to be a very uncertain period.
:21:47. > :21:53.Across the UK, there are many many people, who voted Liberal Democrat,
:21:54. > :21:58.who have new MPs, and our duty will be to act responsibly going forward.
:21:59. > :22:02.But certainly, I am very pleased this evening that we are be gaining
:22:03. > :22:07.seats, we are beginning around in Scotland and that shows we had a
:22:08. > :22:10.good campaign, and Willie Rennie's leadership is beating fruit. Let's
:22:11. > :22:18.just confirm the result from Richmond Park, which I suppose will
:22:19. > :22:23.be considered as a conservative hold. They're describing it as a
:22:24. > :22:29.Conservative win, because the Liberal Democrats took it at a
:22:30. > :22:32.by-election. And now the Conservative Zac Goldsmith has taken
:22:33. > :22:50.it back at this election. But it was very close, Zac Goldsmith had only
:22:51. > :22:56.45 majority. Bleeper in third and Ukip in fourth. Here's how the vote
:22:57. > :23:01.shares out. The top two parties are both on 45%. Labour on 9% and Ukip
:23:02. > :23:07.on less than one. He'd is the difference between this election and
:23:08. > :23:13.the last, by which I mean the 2015 general election. The Conservatives
:23:14. > :23:21.down 13 and the Lib Dems up 26. That increase is not enough for them to
:23:22. > :23:27.have this seat. The swing from the Conservatives to the Liberal
:23:28. > :23:34.Democrats in Richmond Park, 19.4%. I think I'm right in saying that this
:23:35. > :23:40.was the most Pro-remain constituency in the whole of the United Kingdom
:23:41. > :23:46.and Zac Goldsmith was also a former candidate for the London Mayor ship
:23:47. > :23:49.and he campaigned very hard. That is a phenomenal swing. In the last
:23:50. > :23:54.column, you saw the Ukip vote going down, I suspect that would have been
:23:55. > :24:01.watched just tipped it over for the Conservatives in that seat. I've
:24:02. > :24:07.just been adding up, and that seat and North East Fife, less than 50
:24:08. > :24:16.votes, a few extra hundred, and we would have a lot more MPs. But it's
:24:17. > :24:20.first is post system. I know you are a strong supporter of proportional
:24:21. > :24:28.representation. If you cannot persuade people in the most pro-EU
:24:29. > :24:31.constituencies, to back the Liberal Democrats, when you're offering the
:24:32. > :24:36.opportunity to cancel Brexit and have a second referendum on the
:24:37. > :24:42.final deal, then that argument is gone. Part of the campaign was about
:24:43. > :24:50.Brexit, other parts were not about Brexit. It wasn't an entirely
:24:51. > :24:57.dominated campaign. It was the number one issue in your campaign.
:24:58. > :25:00.In the by-election, it probably was, and in the general election, it
:25:01. > :25:05.probably isn't. We've seen many times over the years that
:25:06. > :25:09.by-election results are not always reflected in a general election, but
:25:10. > :25:19.it's a phenomenal swing to us. You have to comfort yourselves with that
:25:20. > :25:23.phenomenal swing, because you no longer in Richmond Park.
:25:24. > :25:27.It has been a long and eventful election night, which has resulted
:25:28. > :25:32.in not more political certainty, but in a hung parliament. Theresa May's
:25:33. > :25:37.snap election has spectacularly backfired on her. Her party now has
:25:38. > :25:42.no overall majority. I think her demeanour says it all there. To
:25:43. > :25:48.achieve anything, she'll have to do some nifty negotiating in the
:25:49. > :25:51.Commons. There was no shortage of drama in Scotland, as the SNP
:25:52. > :26:00.remains the largest party, although its former leader lost his seat. But
:26:01. > :26:06.the Conservatives made big gains. Here is how the parties stand. The
:26:07. > :26:10.SNP still dominating and the Tories in double figures for the first time
:26:11. > :26:16.in decades. Here is how that translates into a share. You can see
:26:17. > :26:24.not much movement for Labour there. It stayed pretty much as it was in
:26:25. > :26:28.2015, but the difference in seats results in a shift in support for
:26:29. > :26:32.the SNP and Conservatives. Here is what their leaders have had to say.
:26:33. > :26:36.I'm not going to take any rash decisions. Clearly, I have to
:26:37. > :26:41.reflect on the results and I will take time to do that. But it would
:26:42. > :26:44.be the wrong thing for me to do this hour, to take decisions before
:26:45. > :26:50.having had the opportunity to properly think about it. We are
:26:51. > :26:58.building on success last year, will be more than doubled our number of
:26:59. > :27:02.MSP 's and night, the SNP majority. In the council elections, we more
:27:03. > :27:06.than doubled our number of wards and we have carried that lament on into
:27:07. > :27:10.tonight. But there was one big issue in this campaign and that was Nicola
:27:11. > :27:14.Sturgeon tried to ram through a second independence referendum in
:27:15. > :27:20.March, and the country's reaction to that. We've seen that in the number
:27:21. > :27:26.of SNP seats at a fallen. I two is dead. The other issue is Brexit.
:27:27. > :27:50.Let's look at what Twitter is saying.
:27:51. > :27:56.George Osborne told my colleague that this means hard Brexit is in
:27:57. > :28:02.the rubbish bin. Glenn, that's all from me. I'm off to Westminster.
:28:03. > :28:05.Join us for reporting Scotland tonight for a special analysis of
:28:06. > :28:09.what this means for Scottish politics.
:28:10. > :28:12.Safe trip to London, we'll hear from you later. We'll keep the analysis
:28:13. > :28:18.going here in the election studio in Glasgow. We'll pick up in a moment
:28:19. > :28:23.with the suggestion there from George Osborne that the idea of a
:28:24. > :28:27.hard Brexit is now in the bin. But right now, let's cross once again to
:28:28. > :28:33.the election cafe, where Fiona as new guests.
:28:34. > :28:37.What a night it has been and what a day we might have in store for us.
:28:38. > :28:44.What happens is anyone's guess, but were going to have a go at that. We
:28:45. > :28:50.have Jenny Davidson from Holyrood magazine, Paul Sinclair, and Angela
:28:51. > :28:54.Hagerty. I'm going to ask you to look into your crystal balls. First
:28:55. > :29:01.of all, Jenny, what do you see in the next ready for errors? Absolute
:29:02. > :29:04.chaos. If you look into a crystal ball, you're going to see a green
:29:05. > :29:08.mass of cloud or something. I wouldn't like to be a fortune-teller
:29:09. > :29:12.and I wouldn't like to be Nicola Sturgeon or Theresa May at the
:29:13. > :29:14.moment, because both had a tough night, they've both got really
:29:15. > :29:21.difficult decisions ahead of them. Theresa May, what does she do? Does
:29:22. > :29:24.she resign? Does she leave the country without a leader or her
:29:25. > :29:28.party without a leader? It could take a long time to appoint a
:29:29. > :29:35.replacement and is now one obvious standing by. Brexit negotiations are
:29:36. > :29:40.coming up in ten days' time and then in Scotland, Nicola Sturgeon, what
:29:41. > :29:44.does she do about indyref2? Does she backed down? Does she do a U-turn
:29:45. > :29:49.like Theresa May? I would like to be in either of their shoes this
:29:50. > :29:54.morning. All, a prediction on your birthday? I can see how Theresa May
:29:55. > :30:01.could last weekend, to be perfectly honest. You could understand why she
:30:02. > :30:04.wanted an increased majority with Brexit coming up, and although the
:30:05. > :30:11.maths suggest you could just about, with the DUP, have a kind of
:30:12. > :30:15.majority, that might work in the short term, if it wasn't something
:30:16. > :30:21.like Brexit. The negotiations are supposed to start in ten days. She
:30:22. > :30:27.cannot go into those negotiations with any credibility at all. And I
:30:28. > :30:31.don't see how she survives. And I think the question is, who does the
:30:32. > :30:33.Tory party choose to be the interim Prime Minister before we are back at
:30:34. > :30:47.the polls in six months' time? Who's going to be running the UK?
:30:48. > :30:52.Your guess is as good as mine. I don't see how Theresa May can stay
:30:53. > :30:57.in her position. She has to go. She called this election on the basis
:30:58. > :31:03.that she would get her personal mandate to deliver her Brexit
:31:04. > :31:08.vision. She has not done that. She has sent the Conservative Party
:31:09. > :31:13.backwards. She has no tenable position, in my mind, so she
:31:14. > :31:16.absolutely has to go. I agree, as well, that Nicola Sturgeon has also
:31:17. > :31:20.had a tough night. In Scotland there is going to have to be some serious
:31:21. > :31:23.thinking going on within the SNP as to what went wrong with this
:31:24. > :31:29.campaign. Something clearly went wrong. It is not just about Unionist
:31:30. > :31:34.voters making their play for it. Something went wrong within that SNP
:31:35. > :31:38.campaign and the SNP needs to find out exactly what it is. They haven't
:31:39. > :31:43.lost the election, that is the thing, we are talking as if the SNP
:31:44. > :31:46.have lost the election, it almost feels that way because of the loss
:31:47. > :31:52.of Angus Robertson, but why have they lost so many seats? The SNP
:31:53. > :31:56.need to figure that out fast and what it means for the second
:31:57. > :32:03.independence referendum. Do you think that we will be back for
:32:04. > :32:07.another Election Cafe within the next few months? I don't think that
:32:08. > :32:13.the voters can handle another election. Yes, I don't see how the
:32:14. > :32:19.voters will have another election. I'm going to say no, but I think it
:32:20. > :32:25.might be wishful thinking. Let's put your name is on your marks, and pop
:32:26. > :32:33.them in case. If you want to give us your views, the hash tag
:32:34. > :32:38.#ElectionCafe is still going strong. We are now just waiting for five
:32:39. > :32:44.constituency results, some knives, is in Oslo, Kendal, Cornwall
:32:45. > :32:46.Southeast and Cornwall North, sees that the Conservatives are
:32:47. > :32:52.defending, but there is one more declaration to bring you from
:32:53. > :32:56.Scotland, the Borders by-election caused by John Lamont's decision to
:32:57. > :32:59.stand down from the Scottish Parliament, in order to fight,
:33:00. > :33:04.successfully as it turned out, a Westminster constituency. Let's
:33:05. > :33:11.bring you that declaration which was made in Kelso, a short time ago. I,
:33:12. > :33:18.been the returning officer for the Roxburgh and Berwickshire
:33:19. > :33:24.constituency say that the numbers of each candidate was as follows.
:33:25. > :33:29.Rachel Hamilton, Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party,
:33:30. > :33:35.20,658. APPLAUSE
:33:36. > :33:47.Gail Hennelly, Scottish National Party, 11,000 320. -- Gail Henry.
:33:48. > :33:50.Sally Prentis, Scottish Labour Party, 3406. I hereby declare that
:33:51. > :33:53.Rachel Hamilton has been duly elected to serve in a Scottish
:33:54. > :34:02.Parliament as a member for the said constituency. Rachel Hamilton holds
:34:03. > :34:09.Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire for the Conservatives, replacing
:34:10. > :34:14.John Lamont. She was an MSP for the region but now has a Rimkus agency,
:34:15. > :34:21.winning, but 20,658 votes over Gail Hendry of the SNP, sister of a
:34:22. > :34:29.certain Alex Salmond. She finished second. Sally Prentice and third for
:34:30. > :34:36.Labour and just ahead of the Liberal Democrats, the daughter of the
:34:37. > :34:42.Liberal leader of all, David steel, Catriona Bhatia. That was an
:34:43. > :34:45.all-female contest. And earlier, we were saying that there was just one
:34:46. > :34:50.of those in the whole of the UK for the general election, this
:34:51. > :34:55.by-election is a rare example of a contest at Holyrood with only female
:34:56. > :34:59.candidates. Rachel Hamilton the winner for the Conservatives, the
:35:00. > :35:04.turnout in that constituency, 70%. Lots to talk about following the
:35:05. > :35:12.general election result. Let's pick up on the Holyrood position because
:35:13. > :35:16.there was a knock-on effect, given against the Conservatives have made
:35:17. > :35:21.in Scotland and given that some of those gains have been made by list
:35:22. > :35:23.MSP is in a Scottish Parliament, what happens at Holyrood,
:35:24. > :35:29.particularly in the North East region? If a list seat was vacated
:35:30. > :35:32.you would normally go to the next person on the list, but such are the
:35:33. > :35:38.successors of the Conservatives in the North East of Scotland, were
:35:39. > :35:42.sitting list members of the Scottish Parliament have successfully stood
:35:43. > :35:51.in the Westminster general election, that they are running out of space.
:35:52. > :35:55.There is the option to maintain a dual mandate. You mean sitting in
:35:56. > :36:00.both partners? Being a part-time member of both parliaments. But it
:36:01. > :36:05.is a problem. I am sure that it is one that the Conservatives will
:36:06. > :36:09.welcome because it is as a result of their success in the North East.
:36:10. > :36:13.What will happen with those MSP 's who have been elected to
:36:14. > :36:17.Westminster, if they stood down from Holyrood, how would their positions
:36:18. > :36:25.be filled? If you run out of space on the list, you just go with the
:36:26. > :36:29.next one, so the list will be 129, for the duration of this term. We
:36:30. > :36:37.have a political panel changing all the time. We still have your nails
:36:38. > :36:41.lop, the Cabinet Secretary for the SNP, and Jamie Dean has joined us
:36:42. > :36:45.from the Scottish Conservatives. Do you know the answer to this question
:36:46. > :36:51.given that it seems that you do not have enough spare candidates on the
:36:52. > :36:55.North East list, or those elected carried on at Holyrood and try to
:36:56. > :36:59.establish themselves at Westminster? I was hoping that was a question you
:37:00. > :37:04.were not going to ask, because it is a conundrum, I guess. It is an
:37:05. > :37:09.enviable position for any party to be in, so many people elected that
:37:10. > :37:12.you almost run out of people, but there was a protocol in place at the
:37:13. > :37:16.Scottish Parliament that will deal with this and internal party
:37:17. > :37:20.processes, we will be looking at this as we speak. The party will be
:37:21. > :37:26.working at the machinations of replacing people who move from one
:37:27. > :37:33.Parliament to another. I'm not sure that we have had this particular set
:37:34. > :37:38.of circumstances. What do you think happens, Fiona Hyslop? So many
:37:39. > :37:42.Conservatives don't have much faith or belief in the Scottish
:37:43. > :37:46.Parliament, they just see it as a stepping stone to the Westminster
:37:47. > :37:51.Parliament. That is symptomatic of some things that I have got real
:37:52. > :37:55.concerns about, it is important that the status and reputation of the
:37:56. > :37:59.Scottish Parliament, not just in government, as the SNP, but many
:38:00. > :38:02.people fought hard to have a strong Scottish Parliament and the
:38:03. > :38:07.disregard that some Conservatives have, barely months into the role,
:38:08. > :38:09.they want to go somewhere else. It says a lot about how the
:38:10. > :38:15.Conservatives view the Scottish Parliament. Is that their comment?
:38:16. > :38:17.We are not the only party where people are progressed from the
:38:18. > :38:23.Scottish Parliament to the Westminster Parliament.
:38:24. > :38:27."Progressed". Moved from one Parliament to another, it has been
:38:28. > :38:32.done before. There are still 29 of us who are Conservative MSP 's who
:38:33. > :38:36.are in Holyrood and you stay there. And the notion that we have no
:38:37. > :38:40.respect for the Scottish Parliament is nonsense. We are the second
:38:41. > :38:48.largest party in Holyrood and we are doing an effective job of being a
:38:49. > :38:53.strong opposition. I was going to say about Alex Salmond, he has moved
:38:54. > :39:01.from one Parliament to the other and get both roles. He was an MSP
:39:02. > :39:03.elected on a per Scottish Parliament then he chose to move back to
:39:04. > :39:13.Westminster, so that is what he chose to do. And since 2001, the
:39:14. > :39:18.principle has been that there are dual mandates, so this seat should
:39:19. > :39:21.remain vacant, and actually, John Lamont, user constituency member,
:39:22. > :39:28.but a conservative, stood down causing a by-election, in order to
:39:29. > :39:31.present -- prevent a dual mandate. If the Conservatives are being
:39:32. > :39:36.straightforward they should say that the dual mandate is not appropriate.
:39:37. > :39:39.Downing Street, we were there talking to our Deputy political
:39:40. > :39:49.editor. We can see Larry, the Downing Street cat. Larry has his
:39:50. > :39:55.own account on social media and it has tweeted this morning to say,
:39:56. > :40:01.what?! As it stands there was a fair chance that the Queen might have to
:40:02. > :40:05.ask me, not me, but Larry the cat, to form a government. Let's hope it
:40:06. > :40:10.does not come to that. We don't know who will be forming the next
:40:11. > :40:15.government would Conservatives finishing as the largest party in
:40:16. > :40:18.this hung Parliament, it looks most likely to be the Conservatives.
:40:19. > :40:21.Whether it will be a government led by Theresa May or not is something
:40:22. > :40:25.that we have been discussing and we will come back to in just a moment.
:40:26. > :40:31.Coming back to the Holyrood picture, following the by-election and those
:40:32. > :40:34.wins for Conservative MPs at Westminster, what would your advice
:40:35. > :40:37.to then be, because the Conservatives have been quite firm
:40:38. > :40:43.in the past on making their candidates pick one Parliament or
:40:44. > :40:48.the other? The practical thing about it, if you go back to the situation
:40:49. > :40:54.when Margo MacDonald passed away and she stood on heroin as an
:40:55. > :40:59.independent and there was no alternative to replace, -- she stood
:41:00. > :41:03.on her own. The implication with this situation is that we could up
:41:04. > :41:08.with a situation where the Parliament is one MSP short over the
:41:09. > :41:11.next four years and clearly, the Conservatives have not thought this
:41:12. > :41:16.through before setting candidates up for election. We will hear later
:41:17. > :41:22.today what the position of the Conservative Party is on that. Let
:41:23. > :41:27.me bring in Brian Taylor on that. In terms of the general election,
:41:28. > :41:32.Brian, 2015 not happen, the SNP would have had its best ever result.
:41:33. > :41:37.It is its second best ever result, but the extent of their losses make
:41:38. > :41:40.it look quite difficult. In terms of history this is a good result for
:41:41. > :41:46.the Conservative Party. They previously gained a maximum of 11
:41:47. > :41:54.seats and struggled to go beyond that in Westminster because it was
:41:55. > :41:56.seen that they could not form the UK Government, so 2015 hadn't happened,
:41:57. > :42:05.this would be an excellent result for the SNP. 2015 took them to a new
:42:06. > :42:09.plateau, and they have descended from it. Politics is about winning
:42:10. > :42:12.and losing but also about momentum and the momentum is probably not
:42:13. > :42:18.with the SNP as a consequence of these results. We have heard it said
:42:19. > :42:23.that indyref2 is now dead. I'm not sure whether I entirely endorse
:42:24. > :42:28.that, but it appears to be ailing and struggling a little bit to the
:42:29. > :42:31.extent that Nicola Sturgeon is now saying that she's going to have to
:42:32. > :42:39.consider her position with regard to that. But she postponed indyref2,
:42:40. > :42:43.maybe not, because she would say that it is already postponed until
:42:44. > :42:50.beyond the period of Brexit. Is it, in practice, deferred for a
:42:51. > :42:54.substantial period? I think, in practice, it is, because it is not
:42:55. > :42:59.just for the Scottish Government or the SNP but for the UK Government,
:43:00. > :43:03.whoever might be Prime Minister, to say that they are not particularly
:43:04. > :43:08.keen on that going forward, at this time within the timetable of Brexit.
:43:09. > :43:12.Another thing about the results in Scotland, Nicola McKeown, just how
:43:13. > :43:21.many of them were really pretty close. Quite a lot of them. We saw
:43:22. > :43:26.that dramatic result in North East Fife with just two votes in it.
:43:27. > :43:32.There are 12 seats with majorities of less than 500. Some with less
:43:33. > :43:40.than 100. Most of those are seats that the SNP have held onto, but not
:43:41. > :43:46.all of them. There are one or two for the Conservatives and Labour as
:43:47. > :43:53.well. Let's pick up with our political panel once again, Fiona
:43:54. > :43:57.Hyslop, Brian Taylor has suggested that if indyref2 was not dead as
:43:58. > :44:01.Conservative Leader Rick Dennison has suggested, then the idea of like
:44:02. > :44:10.having that vote in next couple of years is fading. We will not be
:44:11. > :44:13.having that, we agreed with Theresa May that now is not the time and we
:44:14. > :44:20.will consider it at the appropriate time. We have to deal with the
:44:21. > :44:23.Brexit situation. If you compare and contrast, the Conservatives went and
:44:24. > :44:28.try to increase their mandate and they have got less than 50% of votes
:44:29. > :44:33.across the UK. In Scotland the SNP has had its second best result ever
:44:34. > :44:39.at Westminster. And we have received over 50% of the vote. In the
:44:40. > :44:43.campaign it is quite interesting. You said that if that was the
:44:44. > :44:46.outcome that would put a triple lock on your proposals for independence.
:44:47. > :44:53.I have not heard you say that during the course of discussions this
:44:54. > :44:55.morning. We have a mandate. The mandate for the independence
:44:56. > :45:01.referendum was secured a year ago in the Scottish Parliament elections.
:45:02. > :45:06.We said victory for the SNP, and it is a victory, we have received over
:45:07. > :45:12.50% of the vote... It is a triple lock, then, you're going ahead with
:45:13. > :45:15.the independence referendum? We have secured the mandate, over 50% of the
:45:16. > :45:21.vote, which strengthens our position, and in terms of being part
:45:22. > :45:24.of the Brexit negotiations, which is the immediate issue, we are the
:45:25. > :45:30.third biggest party in Westminster, that gives us a very powerful
:45:31. > :45:33.position any hung Parliament. We will have to identify with the UK
:45:34. > :45:37.Government how we can take that forward, but, of course, we are the
:45:38. > :45:42.party of independence, and we believe in that, and the
:45:43. > :45:47.Conservative -- the Scottish people have rejected the single issue that
:45:48. > :45:51.Labour and the Conservatives made that and they have been rejected by
:45:52. > :45:56.the voters. Collectively those parties got the lion's share of the
:45:57. > :45:59.boats. They stood individually. There are different ways of
:46:00. > :46:00.interpreting the result and what the people of Scotland were trying to
:46:01. > :46:09.communicate. We have traditionally been squeezed
:46:10. > :46:17.at Westminster elections, because people know we don't have enough MPs
:46:18. > :46:21.to form a government. People identified that the Conservatives
:46:22. > :46:26.were struggling, Theresa May was struggling, Jeremy Corbyn was
:46:27. > :46:31.appealing and had a social democratic programme very similar to
:46:32. > :46:35.the SNP's, appealing to people in England. People had a choice as to
:46:36. > :46:39.weather they wanted a clear result in the Westminster election and I
:46:40. > :46:45.think it's quite remarkable in those circumstances, that we still managed
:46:46. > :46:51.to get 35 MPs out of a total of 59. Quite remarkable. The party down
:46:52. > :46:55.more than 20 seats at this election. James Kelly, some of those picked up
:46:56. > :46:59.by the Labour Party, but you come out of this election in third place
:47:00. > :47:03.in Scotland, behind the Conservatives at Holyrood and in
:47:04. > :47:09.local government. In that sense, you have actually gone further back?
:47:10. > :47:14.Even if you go back just a few weeks ago in the council elections, we
:47:15. > :47:20.took 20% of the vote, and last night, we took up to 20% of the
:47:21. > :47:25.vote, so we have moved on just in the space of the few short weeks. I
:47:26. > :47:30.think the big story in the election, there are two strands. People on the
:47:31. > :47:33.doorstep are really fed up with the SNP obsessing about the referendum.
:47:34. > :47:39.Nicola Sturgeon completely misjudged the mood of the public. Remember
:47:40. > :47:42.that press conference at Bute house, announcing, we're going to have
:47:43. > :47:47.another referendum. They thought the public would going behind them. The
:47:48. > :47:58.story of this election is that the public have rejected that. And that
:47:59. > :48:00.also fed up, after ten years, they want to see action on the ailing
:48:01. > :48:02.health service and the declining standards in schools. That's the
:48:03. > :48:10.real lesson Nicola Sturgeon need to reflect on. Nicola Sturgeon launched
:48:11. > :48:13.that back in March with a press conference at Bute house. That hung
:48:14. > :48:20.over the local elections and it dominated this campaign. I've got an
:48:21. > :48:23.important developed to bring new. The BBC now understands that Theresa
:48:24. > :48:28.May has no intention of standing down as Prime Minister and party
:48:29. > :48:32.leader. Weather that is a position that she will maintain, weather it's
:48:33. > :48:38.a position that she will articulate at some point this morning, we will
:48:39. > :48:46.wait and see, but certainly, the BBC's understanding is that she does
:48:47. > :48:51.not intend to stand down. After this incredible election, let's pick up
:48:52. > :48:55.with Brian Taylor on some of the key moments in Scotland. The key moments
:48:56. > :48:59.in Scotland, the memory has got to be Alex Salmond losing his seat. He
:49:00. > :49:05.did so with dignity and humour, which is to his credit, but
:49:06. > :49:09.nonetheless, he lost. I've known Alex Salmond for ever and I think
:49:10. > :49:14.it's the first election he is ever lost since he stood for office in
:49:15. > :49:21.the student Representative Council at St Andrews University. It's
:49:22. > :49:27.almost an icon of the evening for the SNP. Yes, they've won 35 seats,
:49:28. > :49:32.but they have lost big names. They have lost ground. They have won the
:49:33. > :49:36.election but lost ground. And the future of politics will depend upon
:49:37. > :49:40.which of those narratives is more compelling, the victory in the
:49:41. > :49:44.election or losing ground. I think in the short term, it's likely to be
:49:45. > :49:48.losing ground that is compelling in terms of the impact on the
:49:49. > :49:55.independence referendum. If I may talk about the UK briefly, this is
:49:56. > :50:02.an appalling result for the Conservatives, given the nature of
:50:03. > :50:06.the campaign. They created a completely unnecessary election and
:50:07. > :50:12.they have had a swing away from them to the Labour Party. Away from them
:50:13. > :50:17.to a leader whom the treated with contempt, and yet, he has managed to
:50:18. > :50:25.gain faults at their expense. Yes, they are the largest party, but in
:50:26. > :50:30.terms of momentum, who has got the smile early this morning? Is it
:50:31. > :50:34.Jeremy Corbyn or Theresa May? It's Jeremy Corbyn. What do you make of
:50:35. > :50:40.the suggestion that Theresa May has no intention to stand down as Prime
:50:41. > :50:43.Minister and Conservative leader? I think it fits with her declaration
:50:44. > :50:48.that the codes that there has to be form -- some form of stability. It
:50:49. > :50:52.fits with the fact that the Brexit negotiations begin a week on Monday.
:50:53. > :50:55.If she could have a leisurely handover and somebody could deputise
:50:56. > :50:59.for a spell and then you have a leisurely period in which the
:51:00. > :51:04.Conservatives choose another contender to be Prime Minister, then
:51:05. > :51:09.that would be one thing, but that's just not available. Why? Because of
:51:10. > :51:16.Brexit. This election was cold evidently because of Brexit. I think
:51:17. > :51:23.it's an incredible irony. George Osborne says that hard Brexit, what
:51:24. > :51:30.did he see? Hard Brexit is now in the bin. It is Philip, rather than
:51:31. > :51:36.to Jesus who takes out the bins, so maybe will have something of a move
:51:37. > :51:40.in that direction. But they mist interview on Though One Show and
:51:41. > :51:47.talk of boy jobs and girl jobs in the household of Theresa May. Let's
:51:48. > :51:51.just pick up on that suggestion from George Osborne that somehow this
:51:52. > :51:55.result will change the course, the nature of the Brexit deal that we
:51:56. > :52:01.get or perhaps the nature of the Brexit deal that we seek. What you
:52:02. > :52:07.make of that? Is that a likely change from your point of view? It's
:52:08. > :52:09.important to remember we haven't even started the Brexit
:52:10. > :52:13.negotiations, so pre-empting the type of Brexit we're now going to
:52:14. > :52:19.have versus the type we would've yesterday is impossible. You have to
:52:20. > :52:22.know what you want to get in the first place. People talk about hard
:52:23. > :52:26.and soft Brexit, the key difference between one and the other is
:52:27. > :52:31.membership of the single market. If we are in, people say it might be a
:52:32. > :52:36.softer Brexit. If we allowed, it might be defined as a hard Brexit.
:52:37. > :52:43.Do you think the position of the government will shift on that? That
:52:44. > :52:47.they seek to stay in. I think it will be to get the best deal
:52:48. > :52:53.possible with Europe once we start the negotiations. I can't see any
:52:54. > :52:57.particular thing that has jumped out of me. The people of the UK voted
:52:58. > :53:00.for Brexit, so that is what the government of the day, the largest
:53:01. > :53:09.party who will form the next government, they will get on with
:53:10. > :53:13.that job. So I don't see any shift. One condition politicians in
:53:14. > :53:18.Northern Ireland might be pushing really hard for, is to make sure
:53:19. > :53:24.that the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland
:53:25. > :53:32.stays very much open for trade and for free movement. Might that change
:53:33. > :53:38.the nature of the deal that the UK negotiates? I think the election
:53:39. > :53:42.changes everything. Clearly, Theresa May thought she could win the
:53:43. > :53:46.election with an overall majority and then embark on a hard Brexit and
:53:47. > :53:50.then come back and use her majorities pushed through
:53:51. > :53:55.Parliament. She no longer has an overall majority and is well, with
:53:56. > :53:57.the Irish situation, if the Conservatives do continuing
:53:58. > :54:02.government, which is not certain, they will have to deal with the
:54:03. > :54:06.other parties and open up discussions, which will mean looking
:54:07. > :54:14.more seriously at the deal on the table. I have taken part in many
:54:15. > :54:16.debates in the UK Parliament since the referendum, and the
:54:17. > :54:20.Conservatives have been very clear on the choices they've been making
:54:21. > :54:23.on leaving the single market, leaving the customs union, not
:54:24. > :54:28.having a unilateral decision on EU citizens' rights. The Lib Dems in
:54:29. > :54:32.the Lords and Commons pushed very hard on those points. I think the
:54:33. > :54:37.government now has to move. The government does not have a majority
:54:38. > :54:40.mandate to force through a hard, extreme Brexit. Part of the
:54:41. > :54:44.difficulties the Conservatives had in this campaign as it was unclear
:54:45. > :54:49.what the best deal for Britain is, and the people were confused. Now is
:54:50. > :54:53.the opportunity for a degree of clarity. The Conservatives will
:54:54. > :54:59.speak to other parties across the spectrum, because the Queen's
:55:00. > :55:06.speech, delivered as Prime Minister, they need to know the legislative
:55:07. > :55:11.agenda. Reassessing after this election is essential. There can be
:55:12. > :55:16.compromised, and the plans we have put forward, membership of the
:55:17. > :55:21.European single market, I think we can get a consensus but position,
:55:22. > :55:25.not just with the Lib Dems and Labour and the SNP, but also with a
:55:26. > :55:30.good number of conservatives. And I think that is one of the things, in
:55:31. > :55:34.what has been a mixed night, what can happen as a result of this, is
:55:35. > :55:38.that corporation, but those discussions have to start. Do you
:55:39. > :55:42.think there's a majority in the House of Commons that position? I
:55:43. > :55:45.think there's a large number of people in all the parties who think
:55:46. > :55:50.that membership of the single market is right way forward if that is to
:55:51. > :55:54.be Brexit. Thank you very much indeed for the moment. We have just
:55:55. > :55:59.over an hour left of this live television coverage of the election.
:56:00. > :56:04.Jeremy Corbyn getting a big hug as he arrives at Labour Party
:56:05. > :56:07.headquarters in London. He seems to have had a much more successful
:56:08. > :56:13.election campaign than even many in his own party thought possible at
:56:14. > :56:21.the start of this general election campaign. The result is a hung
:56:22. > :56:26.parliament, and uncertainty about the future governance of the United
:56:27. > :56:30.Kingdom and the knock-on effect for Brexit negotiations. You can share
:56:31. > :56:34.your thoughts on the election outcome and we next with Stephen
:56:35. > :56:42.Jordan on radio Scotland from nine o'clock. He is an election cafe with
:56:43. > :56:46.Fiona. It's kind of after hours in the cafe, because our guests have
:56:47. > :56:52.either gone home to bed or they have gone on to daytime programmes. You
:56:53. > :56:57.can tell what a long night it has been. I managed to get Steven
:56:58. > :57:00.Gerrard on, whose on-air at nine o'clock. What on earth are you going
:57:01. > :57:06.to be speaking about? What a remarkable night. Those just waking
:57:07. > :57:10.up this morning, huge uncertainty in the country, where do we go from
:57:11. > :57:14.here? The remarkable thing, Theresa May only hanging on where she is now
:57:15. > :57:20.thanks to the rise of the Conservatives in Scotland. So much
:57:21. > :57:24.uncertainty for her, does the result means in Scotland? I got a running
:57:25. > :57:29.order did last night, that was in the bed right now. We'll start with
:57:30. > :57:36.this, you had your vote yesterday and will have you received this
:57:37. > :57:40.morning on radio Scotland. Let us know your reaction to the result
:57:41. > :57:44.last night. As a journalist, it's an incredible thing to cover, because
:57:45. > :57:48.when the exit poll results were released, there was a huge intake of
:57:49. > :57:52.breath, it took the air out of the room. I don't think anyone could
:57:53. > :57:58.foresee this. For a journalist like yourself. No one predicted this, no
:57:59. > :58:03.one predicted the demise of Alex Salmond. So many uncertainties.
:58:04. > :58:06.These great shock waves with stealing democracy in recent years
:58:07. > :58:10.repeated in this general election. And it's all down to the people, who
:58:11. > :58:16.have their see from nine o'clock this morning on radio Scotland.
:58:17. > :58:19.Shock after shop after shop. It was almost difficult for some of the
:58:20. > :58:23.journalists here to pull out the bigger story, because it kept
:58:24. > :58:26.rolling. Every seat is different, the Conservatives rising again in
:58:27. > :58:31.the north-east of Scotland, no doubt that is Brexit related. Different
:58:32. > :58:34.parts of the country had completely different voting patterns. We'll
:58:35. > :58:39.pull that apart from nine o'clock this morning. We'll get you some
:58:40. > :58:45.coffee. You can so let us know what you think, because the election cafe
:58:46. > :58:56.is still just about open for business. The hash tag is BBC
:58:57. > :59:06.election cafe. You coming back for your bacon roll, GB, that was she
:59:07. > :59:11.was an it is almost eight o'clock. A very good morning to you. It is
:59:12. > :59:15.Friday the 9th of June and it is a morning after the election night
:59:16. > :59:20.before. The dramatic light across the UK, with a hung parliament, the
:59:21. > :59:25.final outcome of this election, with just a handful of seats to still to
:59:26. > :59:29.declare in England. Theresa May has failed to increase majority, she has
:59:30. > :59:34.failed to hang onto her majority and we now have this hung parliament.
:59:35. > :59:37.The BBC understands she does not intend to stand down at this stage.
:59:38. > :59:43.Labour having a better election than expected, whipping up -- picking up
:59:44. > :59:48.seats, including some in Scotland. But the big winners here are the
:59:49. > :59:55.Conservatives, and the SNP, in that they have won the election overall,
:59:56. > :00:00.finishing with 35 seats, and the Conservatives on a total of 13. The
:00:01. > :00:04.Labour Party on seven and the Liberal Democrats making gains as
:00:05. > :00:08.well, finishing with four. Let's pick up on some of the most dramatic
:00:09. > :00:20.developments overnight, with our political correspondent Andrew care.
:00:21. > :00:24.The SNP may be the overall winners, but they've had the biggest losers.
:00:25. > :00:29.The people of Gordon posted the former First Minister. Alex Salmond
:00:30. > :00:33.said the SNP had suffered a grievous blow, but he did think they could
:00:34. > :00:41.still play a big party at Westminster.
:00:42. > :00:49.The SNP might find itself in a position of reduced numbers in the
:00:50. > :00:53.House of Commons but the position of considerable influence and we will
:00:54. > :00:57.use it to keep the Conservative Party from power to build a
:00:58. > :01:02.progressive alliance, to take this country forward. Or. And then a
:01:03. > :01:14.little warning to his opponents. A phrase from an old Jack abate song,
:01:15. > :01:24.false whigs, in the midst of your glee, you have not seen the last of
:01:25. > :01:29.my bonnets and me. The Conservatives overturned the majority of 10,000
:01:30. > :01:31.for Angus Robertson in Moray. For the Scottish Conservatives, an
:01:32. > :01:36.unbelievable night, the best result since 1983, as they picked up the
:01:37. > :01:41.fruits of their anti-independence message. We have seen the country's
:01:42. > :01:45.reaction in a number of SNP seats that have fallen. Indyref2 is dead.
:01:46. > :01:54.That is what has happened tonight. As the north-east turned blue, the
:01:55. > :02:01.SNP lost seats to the Tories in Ayr, Ochil and South Perthshire. The SNP
:02:02. > :02:03.leader said that she would reflect on result. Clearly, there is
:02:04. > :02:09.thinking for diddly about the SNP result. I will not lose sight of the
:02:10. > :02:12.fact the SNP has won this election in Scotland, but clearly, equally, I
:02:13. > :02:19.will not try to gloss over the fact that we have suffered some losses
:02:20. > :02:22.this evening. Labour had been criticised for campaigning against
:02:23. > :02:27.indyref2, but they have seen the benefit of that strategy. They have
:02:28. > :02:31.also been buoyed up by Jeremy Corbyn bounce with the Labour Leader now
:02:32. > :02:34.secure in his own position. They welcomed their return to Glasgow
:02:35. > :02:37.North East, they won in East Lothian and made other surprising gains.
:02:38. > :02:43.This is an encouraging night for Labour with a prounion,
:02:44. > :02:46.anti-austerity message that cut through, and I am delighted. It was
:02:47. > :02:50.the tightest of contests for the Lib Dems in North East Fife with the SNP
:02:51. > :02:54.retaining the seat by just two votes. They kept Orkney and Shetland
:02:55. > :03:03.and gained Edinburgh West, Caithness and Sutherland and Easter Ross. Jo
:03:04. > :03:07.Swinson took out the SNP's John Nicolson in East Dunbartonshire.
:03:08. > :03:12.There is a resounding vote of confidence in me to be the MP for
:03:13. > :03:17.the area but to send a clear message on the views of East Dunbartonshire
:03:18. > :03:20.residents about the idea of a second independence referendum, it is not
:03:21. > :03:24.popular, people don't want it and the SNP need to think again on that.
:03:25. > :03:28.Back to the Conservatives and it was a daylong two story parties, jolly
:03:29. > :03:33.in Scotland but despair, down south, with Theresa May's election gamble
:03:34. > :03:38.proving disastrous with a hung Parliament. As we look ahead and
:03:39. > :03:43.wait to see what the final results will be, I know that, as I say, the
:03:44. > :03:49.country needs a period of stability. The people of the UK and the people
:03:50. > :03:53.of Scotland have spoken. Loud voices have told the politicians exactly
:03:54. > :03:58.what they think. They certainly have. The outcome across the UK, a
:03:59. > :04:03.hung Parliament, with the Conservatives as as the largest
:04:04. > :04:09.party and the indications are that Theresa May has no intention of
:04:10. > :04:14.standing down as Prime Minister. She is due to give a Queen's speech, or
:04:15. > :04:19.to have her programme read out in Parliament by the Queen on the 19th
:04:20. > :04:23.of June, and of course, before then, a week on Monday, the UK are
:04:24. > :04:27.supposed to start Brexit negotiations with the EU. Let's
:04:28. > :04:38.cross like to Brussels and speak with the BBC Europe editor. What are
:04:39. > :04:42.they making of it there, Katja? People in Brussels, Berlin and Paris
:04:43. > :04:48.are stunned as they are across the United Kingdom. One thing that they
:04:49. > :04:51.are clear on is that whether there are questions about whether the
:04:52. > :04:55.Brexit negotiations now have to be delayed, the start of them, more
:04:56. > :05:02.than a year, it could be, after the EU referendum, can the negotiations
:05:03. > :05:06.be stalled, can they be stopped? All of these are questions for the
:05:07. > :05:10.United Kingdom and not for Brussels. Brussels sees this as a domestic
:05:11. > :05:15.political situation. If the UK wants to extend the negotiating process or
:05:16. > :05:20.even if it wanted to hold a second referendum and stop or reverse it,
:05:21. > :05:25.that would then be requested on the United Kingdom that would be voted
:05:26. > :05:30.on unanimously by the 27 members of the EU, plus the European Parliament
:05:31. > :05:34.as well. Various possibilities but Brussels is saying that the ball is
:05:35. > :05:39.in the UK's court right now. What is your assessment of how a hung
:05:40. > :05:47.Parliament might impact the Brexit deal that is being sought by the UK
:05:48. > :05:51.'s do you anticipate changes? Perhaps the UK Government is seeking
:05:52. > :05:56.a more moderate offer, if I can put it in those terms. Everyone is
:05:57. > :06:01.asking those questions this morning. In Brussels, those questions are
:06:02. > :06:05.being asked, as well. The chief of the European Commission, for
:06:06. > :06:09.example, is in Prague, today. They will not want to make any
:06:10. > :06:14.definitive, formal statement until they have heard Theresa May
:06:15. > :06:17.speaking. Essentially, again, all I can say is that from the EU point of
:06:18. > :06:22.view, they say that we are ready, we have been working on this were 12
:06:23. > :06:26.months, we have clear and unified negotiating positions amongst the 27
:06:27. > :06:30.member states plus the European Parliament, they want to start as
:06:31. > :06:35.soon as possible. Should there be a hard race of Brexit? From the EU
:06:36. > :06:41.point of view this is for the UK to push for. They are not making any
:06:42. > :06:46.interpretations this morning. One thing for definite, is that that
:06:47. > :06:50.clock is ticking. Article 50, that global Brexit process, was triggered
:06:51. > :06:58.back in March. It ends in March 2000 and 19. So the UK only has until the
:06:59. > :07:03.20th of March 2019 to get an exit deal, never mind any talk about a
:07:04. > :07:07.future trade relationship or anything like that. The EU,
:07:08. > :07:11.reminding the UK that that clock is ticking and it does not feel under
:07:12. > :07:18.the time pressure that the UK certainly is under. Thank you for
:07:19. > :07:24.updating us, BBC Europe editor Katya Adler. I don't want to alarm you,
:07:25. > :07:29.but one possible way of resolving the situation that we are in, the
:07:30. > :07:34.hung Parliament, I know that we have had seven votes of one kind or
:07:35. > :07:36.another but could there be another general election? Let's check out
:07:37. > :07:43.that possibility now with David Henderson. Good question, Glenn. It
:07:44. > :07:48.was the comedian Billy Connolly who said, don't vote, it only encourages
:07:49. > :07:52.them. And just maybe he had a point, because we have seen a flurry of
:07:53. > :07:57.elections, would you believe, seven in just three years? No wonder some
:07:58. > :08:04.Scottish voters are feeling a little bit weary, and this may not be the
:08:05. > :08:08.last of them. Let's recap. May 2014 saw the voters choosing members of
:08:09. > :08:11.the European Parliament. The headline was that Ukip got enough
:08:12. > :08:16.votes to take one of the seats in Scotland. And it underlined the
:08:17. > :08:20.growing strength of their campaign to take the UK out of Europe. Now,
:08:21. > :08:25.the dust had barely settled before the political event of the year,
:08:26. > :08:29.perhaps the decade, the Scottish independence referendum, with most
:08:30. > :08:33.voters choosing to remain in the UK, marking the end of Alex Salmond's
:08:34. > :08:39.reign as First Minister. Less than one year later another huge
:08:40. > :08:43.political set piece, 2015 general election. Important because it gave
:08:44. > :08:48.David Cameron's Conservatives are clear Westminster majority, at the
:08:49. > :08:53.same time all but wiping out their coalition partners, the Lib Dems.
:08:54. > :08:57.That led to huge shift in the Labour Party with Ed Miliband leaving the
:08:58. > :09:03.floor, making way for Jeremy Corbyn. In Scotland we saw a landslide
:09:04. > :09:08.victory for Nicola Sturgeon's SNP. Last year, 2016, and voters went to
:09:09. > :09:11.the polls for election to the Scottish Parliament. The result
:09:12. > :09:14.underlined the SNP dominance at Holyrood. This time they didn't
:09:15. > :09:20.quite win a majority but they were still in power, setting the stage
:09:21. > :09:26.for a with Westminster over indyref2, a second independence
:09:27. > :09:30.referendum. And then of course the EU referendum, 52% of voters across
:09:31. > :09:34.the UK choosing Brexit, voting to leave the EU. It was a political
:09:35. > :09:37.earthquake, and we don't yet know the full impact, but it marks a
:09:38. > :09:45.change of direction for this country. This year, the local
:09:46. > :09:49.council elections. Less fanfare but still surprises with gains for the
:09:50. > :09:54.Conservatives in Scotland and, after decades in power, Labour lost
:09:55. > :09:59.control of Glasgow City Council. So, we are right up to date. This snap
:10:00. > :10:03.general election. Theresa May called it three years early because she
:10:04. > :10:08.wanted a strong mandate, head of Brexit talks with Europe. At this
:10:09. > :10:14.point it looks like the plan has backfired. One thing is clear.
:10:15. > :10:19.Elections are like buses. You wait and wait and then seven, a long, one
:10:20. > :10:25.after another. And with no clear winner in this election, there might
:10:26. > :10:30.be another just around the corner. Back to you, Glenn. How do you
:10:31. > :10:39.assess that possibility, Professor Nicola McEwan? I think it is
:10:40. > :10:43.unlikely. I don't think the public would look on it particularly
:10:44. > :10:49.favourably, either. One thing about the discussion we were having about
:10:50. > :10:53.Brexit and how this may impact upon Brexit. There was a risk that we
:10:54. > :11:00.misinterpret the significance of the result. It is true to say that there
:11:01. > :11:04.was a swing towards Labour in remain supporting areas and a marginal
:11:05. > :11:09.swing towards the Conservatives in leave supporting areas. But that
:11:10. > :11:13.doesn't necessarily have to do, anything with views about Brexit, it
:11:14. > :11:19.could simply be because these areas are linked to urban- rural divides
:11:20. > :11:28.that normally align with the parties and the Labour Party campaign in the
:11:29. > :11:32.UK, Jeremy Gordon has been ambiguous on a UK membership of the EU single
:11:33. > :11:36.market, so there is nothing to suggest that would be the dividing
:11:37. > :11:40.issue and there would be pressure from Labour to soften their stance.
:11:41. > :11:47.To soften what Brexit turns out to be. The membership of the single
:11:48. > :11:52.market, it is not the trade aspects that there was a problem for the
:11:53. > :11:56.Conservatives, and the problem for the other 27 EU members, it is free
:11:57. > :12:00.movement of people. It is a core element of the single market. The
:12:01. > :12:04.European Union has made clear that you cannot be a member unless you
:12:05. > :12:09.accept that and the Conservatives have made clear, until tonight, that
:12:10. > :12:13.they cannot put up with that because it would allow further immigration
:12:14. > :12:19.which was one of the key reasons for Brexit and one of the key reasons
:12:20. > :12:22.that they call the contest in the first place. Theresa May, I think
:12:23. > :12:26.that the business of whether she stays in office and whether there is
:12:27. > :12:32.a further election, presumably the fixed term parliaments act is still
:12:33. > :12:35.in place, even though it was set aside by the device of Theresa May
:12:36. > :12:44.challenging the Labour Party not to vote against it and it is still
:12:45. > :12:48.there, so some party would have to go against that act, in order for
:12:49. > :12:51.there to be an early election and my guess is, whichever party did that
:12:52. > :12:58.created yet another election on top of this unnecessary election, would
:12:59. > :13:04.be punished. It reminds me, not that I've covered the 1924 general
:13:05. > :13:08.election, it reminds me of Stanley Baldwin, who called an election in
:13:09. > :13:11.that year and achieve the glorious outcome of reuniting the ruling
:13:12. > :13:17.Liberals and letting Labour into power for the first time, so that
:13:18. > :13:23.when Twell! If the parties at Westminster are going to have to
:13:24. > :13:31.make this work, how will they make it work? -- that went well. It is
:13:32. > :13:35.eight o'clock in the morning after the night before. We haven't yet got
:13:36. > :13:40.to the stage where a government has been formed. It is fair to say that
:13:41. > :13:44.the Conservatives as the largest party with the mandate, to continue
:13:45. > :13:49.with the government, will have to continue and make this work. Brexit
:13:50. > :13:54.will proceed as the people decided it would and I do not see what has
:13:55. > :14:00.changed in that respect. Any chance of a Jeremy Corbyn led government
:14:01. > :14:04.getting a shot instead? It is going to be for the Conservatives have
:14:05. > :14:09.their first shot, but Jamie's answer highlights the chaos that we are in,
:14:10. > :14:16.now. We went into this election the Theresa May saying that it was about
:14:17. > :14:19.strength and stability and now the chaos looks like it is going to be
:14:20. > :14:23.coming from a Conservative government who went in trying to get
:14:24. > :14:27.a large majority and has come out without that, with the country in a
:14:28. > :14:33.far weaker position than it was six weeks ago. We have a Prime Minister
:14:34. > :14:35.going into negotiations, difficult negotiations in Brussels, who
:14:36. > :14:40.doesn't seem to have a clear mandate from the British people through the
:14:41. > :14:44.selection and who, also, you can seriously question her judgment of
:14:45. > :14:48.triggering Article 50 and subsequently going for an election,
:14:49. > :14:53.so we are already in this two year period with the clock running down
:14:54. > :14:56.the and there was no certainty for the government about how we're going
:14:57. > :15:03.to get to a settlement in that time period. We voted to trigger Article
:15:04. > :15:07.50 but at that point the Prime Minister was saying there will be no
:15:08. > :15:10.election. That wasn't on the table. She triggers Article 50, says the
:15:11. > :15:14.clock running and then immediately runs into an election after
:15:15. > :15:17.dithering about whether to have an election at all. She should have
:15:18. > :15:21.been aware of the fact that this could have led to the chaos we are
:15:22. > :15:25.seeing this morning, and who knows what she's going to do? We haven't
:15:26. > :15:29.heard what she's going to say yet. We were warned through this election
:15:30. > :15:32.that it would be that would bring chaos to the country but it looks
:15:33. > :15:37.like it is the Conservatives who are doing just that.
:15:38. > :15:43.There's no chance Labour can be peace negotiations. The people had
:15:44. > :15:48.their vote and they decided they did not want Jeremy Corbyn delete us
:15:49. > :15:52.into the Brexit negotiations. They also decided they didn't want the
:15:53. > :15:57.Conservatives to have a free hand in all of this. Are you, as a party and
:15:58. > :16:05.government, going to have to bring in the other parties somehow, into
:16:06. > :16:09.the Brexit tend to try and find a common way forward? That's an
:16:10. > :16:13.interesting question. We are in a hung parliament situation, that is
:16:14. > :16:17.no majority. I think that is a duty and onus on all members of
:16:18. > :16:21.Parliament to make sure that Brexit happens and make sure that the whole
:16:22. > :16:28.country does get a good deal. That's why I'm pleased we have 13 Scottish
:16:29. > :16:34.MPs going down to have that conversation. What difference will
:16:35. > :16:37.they make? We now have 12 MPs at the top table, who are part of the
:16:38. > :16:42.government of the day, which we didn't have yesterday. Ruth Davidson
:16:43. > :16:47.quite strongly supported single market membership and did so even
:16:48. > :16:51.after the Brexit thought. As Brian pointed out, it's not just about
:16:52. > :16:55.access to the single market, it's the consequences, and the people
:16:56. > :17:02.voted against the free movement of people, which was a huge part of it.
:17:03. > :17:08.Despite the previous position that church leaders in Scotland has. Ruth
:17:09. > :17:11.Davidson accepts the result of the referendum, unlike other parties.
:17:12. > :17:15.Does that mean no single market membership? I think it's about
:17:16. > :17:22.getting the best deal for the whole of the UK. That's not an answer.
:17:23. > :17:29.Hopping in Keith Brown, Cabinet Secretary in the Scottish Government
:17:30. > :17:35.for the SNP. Welcome. What is your perspective on the result, from a
:17:36. > :17:39.Scottish and SNP perspective? This is an absolute shambles. It really
:17:40. > :17:44.is. People don't perhaps realise the extent of what it means for the
:17:45. > :17:49.Brexit negotiations. We've already had an estimate that it will cost
:17:50. > :17:53.80,000 jobs in Scotland. This magnifies the problem substantially.
:17:54. > :18:02.We have this chaotic situation in the UK at the point with a 27 are
:18:03. > :18:06.outlined in the UK is in a mess. To go into a second election, many
:18:07. > :18:09.people would blame that on the person who caused the first
:18:10. > :18:12.unnecessary election, which is Theresa May, and I think there would
:18:13. > :18:18.be a backlash on the Conservative Party because of that. You
:18:19. > :18:26.suggesting that Brexit poses a threat to the economy of the UK and
:18:27. > :18:32.in particular, to Scotland, but in what we would to this election
:18:33. > :18:37.magnify that? Talking about the scenario of a second election,
:18:38. > :18:39.that's another hiatus at a vital point in the negotiations, which
:18:40. > :18:44.were meant to have started very shortly. That is very damaging, but
:18:45. > :18:48.also the very impression for the rest of Europe that that is this
:18:49. > :18:52.chaotic mess caused by Theresa May, when she was going to get this
:18:53. > :18:57.strong and stable government. But we have the reverse. Nobody knows what
:18:58. > :19:02.government we will have. HOWZAT! Businesses and investors react to
:19:03. > :19:08.this outcome? All the businesses I talked to in Scotland, number one is
:19:09. > :19:13.definitely freedom of movement, so they are fairly exorcised by that,
:19:14. > :19:19.but also by the potential for tariffs and the barriers to trade,
:19:20. > :19:21.even more than that. They are very concerned already and businesses
:19:22. > :19:32.will always tell you, they don't like uncertainty. Jamie Green said
:19:33. > :19:35.that if you want to help end uncertainty, you should take the
:19:36. > :19:44.independence referendum of the table. That is the other issue hotly
:19:45. > :19:49.debated. Where do you think the outcome in Scotland leaves the
:19:50. > :19:54.independence question? I think the question is getting close to
:19:55. > :19:58.answered. The people don't want it. We had a major debate that was up to
:19:59. > :20:04.two years, up until 2014, and there was a convincing result. We have now
:20:05. > :20:09.had Cabinet ministers, Scottish government ministers at this table
:20:10. > :20:12.this morning, seeing this election was not about independence. They
:20:13. > :20:16.said the same in the last elections. They've been saying it now
:20:17. > :20:22.repeatedly. This election is not about independence, when clearly, it
:20:23. > :20:25.is. Because they make the case every single week, certainly the group of
:20:26. > :20:30.MPs in Westminster made the case every week but independence. I think
:20:31. > :20:34.it is now close to being completely off the table, and what the Scottish
:20:35. > :20:38.Government should do is retreat from the position, and the Scottish
:20:39. > :20:43.parliament should be reconsidering. You're saying it's close to being
:20:44. > :20:45.off the table, Ruth Davidson said it was dead, Nicola Sturgeon said she
:20:46. > :20:49.would reflect on the result before deciding what to do next. What
:20:50. > :20:56.message do you think she should take from this election? First of all to
:20:57. > :20:59.respond to the question Jeremy races, then he would take the second
:21:00. > :21:06.European referendum off the table as well. A party that got less than 7%
:21:07. > :21:08.of the vote in Scotland. In relation to the independence referendum, you
:21:09. > :21:16.have to look at the context in which it was cold by the First Minister.
:21:17. > :21:20.We have to see if the situation is going to be changed. What is your
:21:21. > :21:25.gut feeling? It depends on the outcome of the discussions at
:21:26. > :21:28.Westminster and weather the Conservatives continue, I just can't
:21:29. > :21:32.see that Theresa May can stay on in office, so it depends what happens
:21:33. > :21:38.in Westminster. You except that weather or not there is a referendum
:21:39. > :21:43.depends on permission being given from the UK Government? Of course,
:21:44. > :21:47.that is that element, it requires engaging with the UK Government, but
:21:48. > :21:52.there was a fixed position before, to completely ignore Scotland. Do
:21:53. > :22:00.you think it should be taken off the table? I think the First Minister
:22:01. > :22:05.says we should reflect. You are defending. Yes. Lord Faulkner is in
:22:06. > :22:13.our Westminster studio, the former Lord Chancellor and Labour minister.
:22:14. > :22:20.Good morning. Thanks for joining us. What do you make of this
:22:21. > :22:24.extraordinary election outcome? I think Mrs May has been unreservedly
:22:25. > :22:29.repudiated by the country. She said to the country, I cannot go on
:22:30. > :22:33.without getting the mandate from the people, because Parliament is making
:22:34. > :22:38.my life too difficult in the context of Brexit. And the public have
:22:39. > :22:41.refused to give her that mandate. Quite separately from the public
:22:42. > :22:45.refusing to give her the mandate is this colossal sense she has made a
:22:46. > :22:52.massive misjudgement. Nobody would think it was sensible to spend six
:22:53. > :22:56.weeks in a vital PDW preparing for negotiations, to enter with less
:22:57. > :23:01.seats they had before and indeed, losing your majority. She is a lame
:23:02. > :23:06.duck now. She has to go as Prime Minister, not just because that is
:23:07. > :23:10.the right thing, having been repudiated by the country, but what
:23:11. > :23:13.will our European allies think, when they seek to negotiate with somebody
:23:14. > :23:19.who they see has been repudiated by the country? But given the time
:23:20. > :23:24.fumes were talking about, with Brexit negotiations due to start in
:23:25. > :23:29.just over a week's time and the Queen's speech a week after that,
:23:30. > :23:33.does she have to go quickly or signal her intention to go and lead
:23:34. > :23:37.us through this tense period? I think she's got a signal she's going
:23:38. > :23:44.very quickly. Who forms the next government depends upon the
:23:45. > :23:48.arithmetic in the House of Commons. What everybody is speculating about
:23:49. > :23:53.is can the Tories to deal with the DUP, and if they do a deal with the
:23:54. > :23:57.DUP, that gives them an overall majority. It's extremely
:23:58. > :24:02.unsatisfactory, and it can't last very long, because it is unclear in
:24:03. > :24:07.terms of determining what our economy and Brexit is, but if the
:24:08. > :24:11.Tories have the numbers, they can stay in power. But there is no point
:24:12. > :24:14.in the UK sending to Brussels as our negotiator, somebody from the
:24:15. > :24:19.government which is run by somebody who is a lame duck. So the quicker
:24:20. > :24:24.she goes, the better. I see from the news media this morning that her
:24:25. > :24:27.aides are briefing she's not going. I know she's making a statement at
:24:28. > :24:33.ten o'clock. The right statement to make as she is going. She will stay
:24:34. > :24:37.for as long as it takes for a new Prime Minister to be selected. What
:24:38. > :24:40.is your thinking on the suggestion from the Shadow Chancellor that
:24:41. > :24:46.Labour should attempt to form a minority government and challenge
:24:47. > :24:53.other minority parties in the House of Commons to back them? If we can
:24:54. > :24:58.form a minority government well and good, but the position is that the
:24:59. > :25:03.Tories and the DUP have entered into an arrangement, whereby the DUP will
:25:04. > :25:07.support the Tories and that gives them 328 seats, then that gives them
:25:08. > :25:11.a majority and it means any attempts to form a government outside that
:25:12. > :25:17.grouping won't work, because the majority is there, but it all
:25:18. > :25:21.depends upon the numbers. If, as Theresa May suggested, somehow a
:25:22. > :25:25.bigger majority for the UK Government would strengthen that
:25:26. > :25:30.government's hand in the Brexit negotiations, does it therefore
:25:31. > :25:34.follows that a hung parliament, a government with no single party
:25:35. > :25:39.majority, will be weaker in this negotiations and get a worse deal
:25:40. > :25:42.than they might otherwise? It will be weaker if there is a sense that
:25:43. > :25:48.there is real division about what those terms should be. In the light
:25:49. > :25:54.of what has happened, whoever negotiates on behalf of the UK has
:25:55. > :25:58.now got to get as much agreement and consensus within the Commons,
:25:59. > :26:01.because if it cannot be obtained by winning a massive majority in the
:26:02. > :26:07.country, because the country will not have that, which is what has
:26:08. > :26:10.happened overnight, then whoever it is a Prime Minister has to build the
:26:11. > :26:14.broadest consensus he or she can within the House of Commons. And
:26:15. > :26:19.that is the way you will get strength. It means, in effect, going
:26:20. > :26:23.through with the Commons what the terms to be sought are and then
:26:24. > :26:29.negotiating those terms on the basis that the negotiator, whoever the
:26:30. > :26:33.Prime Minister is, this is what the House of Commons supports. Thanks
:26:34. > :26:36.very much indeed for your time this morning and forge your analysis of
:26:37. > :26:41.the situation we find ourselves in this morning, with a hung
:26:42. > :26:44.parliament. The Conservative 's largest party. There are different
:26:45. > :26:50.ways governments can operate in these circumstances. They can get
:26:51. > :26:58.support from other parties on an issue by issue basis. Or going for a
:26:59. > :27:02.more formal deal, as we had in the Parliament between 2010 and 2015, a
:27:03. > :27:08.coalition between two or more parties. I would that work?
:27:09. > :27:12.Use Jeremy Vine. One of the things this result will do, because it is
:27:13. > :27:16.so tight, is put a lot of focus on the House of Commons. We are sitting
:27:17. > :27:22.on a virtual one here. Let's look at the numbers. Here we have the
:27:23. > :27:31.parties arranged as we think the final result will be. There are
:27:32. > :27:36.three or four more results coming. We know that you have to get 326 MPs
:27:37. > :27:40.for an overall majority, so what I'm going to do is try and build the
:27:41. > :27:44.overall majority now, bidding in mind that no one party can do it. So
:27:45. > :27:50.the Conservatives, having fallen into a minority, set there now with
:27:51. > :27:56.their seats and they need to add to that total and somehow get it up to
:27:57. > :28:00.326. The obvious place to go is the Democratic Unionists in Northern
:28:01. > :28:07.Ireland. They have ten MPs. Let's put them on. This is pretty simple
:28:08. > :28:16.maths. The politics is not simple, because the DUP will want something
:28:17. > :28:20.for being in there and helping the Conservatives, so they can get the
:28:21. > :28:25.Queen's speech through. The problem for Theresa May as she hasn't done
:28:26. > :28:31.it on a road. But they get to 326 and pass them by simply enlisting
:28:32. > :28:35.the DUP in Northern Ireland. Let me show you the benches as this would
:28:36. > :28:43.look. Not what anyone expected from this election. The Conservatives are
:28:44. > :28:47.here with 319 MPs and the line is just there. The DUP help them
:28:48. > :28:50.through the line with the extra ten. If we have a look at the opposition
:28:51. > :28:58.benches, that's where they are at the moment, with the single biggest
:28:59. > :29:03.opposition party the Labour Party. The Liberal Democrats have done a
:29:04. > :29:07.bit better than they did last time. That is how it would work. These are
:29:08. > :29:12.the benches to focus on. There is a way of the Conservatives getting
:29:13. > :29:16.through, but it is pretty humiliating for the Prime Minister
:29:17. > :29:21.to have to even think about this. For seats still to declare, foresees
:29:22. > :29:25.the Conservatives are defending in England, to complete general
:29:26. > :29:30.election picture. All the constituencies in Scotland, all 59
:29:31. > :29:37.already declared. The SNP on 35, that's down 21 on the 2015 result.
:29:38. > :29:44.So a lot of seats changing hands in Scotland. Let's take a look at those
:29:45. > :29:49.that have switched. Changed seats include Aberdeen South, taken from
:29:50. > :29:51.the SNP by the Conservatives. Another Conservative gain in
:29:52. > :29:58.Aberdeenshire West and in Angus and in air and Carrick and in Banff and
:29:59. > :30:04.Buchan, which had a 60% vote share for the SNP last time around. It has
:30:05. > :30:09.gone conservative and so has what was the most marginal constituency
:30:10. > :30:13.in Scotland, Berwickshire, Roxboro and Selkirk. But there have been
:30:14. > :30:16.gains were other parties as well. The Lib Dems picking up Caithness
:30:17. > :30:23.and Sutherland, retuning that seat from the SNP. And gains for the
:30:24. > :30:27.Labour Party. Taking Coatbridge and Christ and, all these gains from the
:30:28. > :30:32.SNP. Dumfries and Galloway going to the Conservatives. East Lothian
:30:33. > :30:37.falling to the Labour Party. Edinburgh West of the Lib Dems.
:30:38. > :30:42.Glasgow North East Labour and remember, that is where the biggest
:30:43. > :30:47.single swing against Labour took place in in the 20 15th election,
:30:48. > :30:53.yet two years later, they've managed to win it back on another big swing.
:30:54. > :30:58.And at the bottom of the page, perhaps the most breathtaking result
:30:59. > :31:03.of the night, the Conservatives taking Gordon, the seat that Alex
:31:04. > :31:09.Salmond has occupied in the House of Commons. He is out now and is
:31:10. > :31:13.defeated, in what was his tenth parliamentary contest, having won
:31:14. > :31:29.the last nine in a room. Big changes taking place all over Scotland.
:31:30. > :31:37.Gains for the Conservatives, in Moray, Renfrewshire East, and in the
:31:38. > :31:42.case of Moray, the Conservatives toppling the SNP deputy, and lead at
:31:43. > :31:47.Westminster, Angus Robertson, who is out of Parliament. Rutherglen picked
:31:48. > :31:56.up by Labour and the Conservatives are back in the seat that was
:31:57. > :32:01.occupied by then Lord Forsyth, Michael Desai, one of the big
:32:02. > :32:06.casualties on that night in 1997, Stirling. The Conservatives are back
:32:07. > :32:11.in a big way in Scotland, with 13 seats, their best result in Scotland
:32:12. > :32:13.since 1983, when Margaret Thatcher was Prime Minister. Remarkable
:32:14. > :32:19.results from across the country, Brian. Yes, they are, remarkable
:32:20. > :32:24.results in Scotland. You have to come back to that Alex Salmond
:32:25. > :32:30.defeat in Gordon. He quoted from what he said was a Jacobite ballad,
:32:31. > :32:43.but it was the great Sir Walter Scott who wrote the words, but one,
:32:44. > :32:50.you have not seen the last of my bonnets and me. That is quite a
:32:51. > :32:54.remarkable defeat for the SNP. John Swinney, the deputy leader in the
:32:55. > :32:59.SNP administration at Holyrood, says the party must acknowledge that a
:33:00. > :33:04.significant motivator of the vote against the SNP was the question of
:33:05. > :33:09.independence. He says that he and his colleagues must be attentive to
:33:10. > :33:13.that. That is underlining what the First Minister has already said.
:33:14. > :33:17.There was a phrase used in the 1992 election when the Tories were
:33:18. > :33:25.returned and the Tories said that they would take stock about devolved
:33:26. > :33:30.government, it was an interview with Kenny MacIntyre, and it was a phrase
:33:31. > :33:34.that defined that election. The SNP will be taking stock on this
:33:35. > :33:38.occasion and they will not defer, formerly, on an independence
:33:39. > :33:44.referendum but accept that it is not going to happen on the timescale
:33:45. > :33:49.that they set out. I feel in a poetic mode, I have done so Walter
:33:50. > :33:55.Scott, so here is some browning for you, a poem called the lost leader.
:33:56. > :34:02.It could apply to Angus Robertson or Alex Salmond and the Palm concluded
:34:03. > :34:09.by saying never glad, confident morning again. It is not quite that
:34:10. > :34:13.for the SNP, but it is a slightly duller dawn than they had hoped for
:34:14. > :34:19.this morning. On that literary note I will return to the politics. Just
:34:20. > :34:24.bringing in Keith Brown on this business of reflecting, that was the
:34:25. > :34:27.word that the First Minister use, the Deputy First Minister is talking
:34:28. > :34:33.about being attentive to the extent to which people left the SNP over
:34:34. > :34:38.the question of independence. Brian used the phrase, take stock. Isn't
:34:39. > :34:50.indyref2 going to be on the back burner or on the altogether? I am
:34:51. > :34:57.reminded of the words of Shelley, rising like lions after slumber, in
:34:58. > :35:01.unvanquishable number. It is the right thing to do as both the First
:35:02. > :35:04.Minister and Deputy First Minister have said, when you've had an
:35:05. > :35:10.election where you have lost 21 seats, you have got to take stock,
:35:11. > :35:13.that was the phrase used by Ian Lang back in the 90s. You have to
:35:14. > :35:17.acknowledge that the SNP won the majority of seats in Scotland on the
:35:18. > :35:23.system that they have to fight these seats on. It is wrong to try to jump
:35:24. > :35:26.to the conclusion on the morning after an election that has just
:35:27. > :35:30.taken place but you have got to take that into account and that is what
:35:31. > :35:37.the First Minister is going to do. There is the result in Scotland, 35
:35:38. > :35:42.seats for the SNP, down from 56, the Conservatives on 13, up from one,
:35:43. > :35:49.Labour on seven, up from one, and the Lib Dems on four, again, up from
:35:50. > :35:57.one. Gains for the three parties advocating continued union,
:35:58. > :35:59.advocating an end to talk of a second independence referendum. Just
:36:00. > :36:05.give us a sense from the interview, if you would, how big a motivator
:36:06. > :36:13.was that, for those who supported your parties in this election? In
:36:14. > :36:22.the areas where we regained we understood the biggest challenges to
:36:23. > :36:25.the SNP to stopping and second independence referendum. It was a
:36:26. > :36:31.major factor in support that persuaded Conservatives and Lib Dem
:36:32. > :36:36.'s to support us, but that was in addition to is highlighting what
:36:37. > :36:40.many people in Scotland across the board is that the ten year
:36:41. > :36:44.decade-long record on domestic services from the SNP is April one,
:36:45. > :36:51.and they are not having the policies that are brought forward to end. But
:36:52. > :36:55.two combined has been what has made the SNP fallback quite dramatically.
:36:56. > :36:59.To what extent in the case of labour was it independence and to what
:37:00. > :37:04.extent other factors? In many of the seats that we won, and where we came
:37:05. > :37:07.close, I'm thinking about seats in the west of Scotland, where we are
:37:08. > :37:12.in some cases just hundreds of votes behind the SNP now, in large part it
:37:13. > :37:17.was due to the record on public services than about the independence
:37:18. > :37:22.referendum. The issue of health services in the seat I stood in,
:37:23. > :37:26.Inverclyde, closure to maternity services at Inverclyde Royal
:37:27. > :37:31.Hospital, explains much about why the SNP vote fell. And in Paisley
:37:32. > :37:34.where we were 2000 behind the SNP, hospital services and schools were
:37:35. > :37:38.high up the agenda. In some parts of the country it was public services
:37:39. > :37:43.the issue, in places where the Tories did quite well it was the
:37:44. > :37:47.referendum. Is the independence question down as the number one
:37:48. > :37:52.factor from a Tory point of view? One of a number of factors. The SNP
:37:53. > :37:56.need to do much more than just reflect on what happened. They need
:37:57. > :38:00.to listen to the people. The people made a very decisive decision
:38:01. > :38:06.yesterday to say no thanks across Scotland, in every part of Scotland,
:38:07. > :38:10.to say no thanks to independence. There is points being made about the
:38:11. > :38:14.track record on public services of the SNP, the people have said no
:38:15. > :38:17.thanks to their track record on education and the NHS. And that was
:38:18. > :38:24.at the back of their minds when they were putting crosses inboxes. You
:38:25. > :38:31.lost 21 seats. Down in terms of those, the SNP are just a few...
:38:32. > :38:38.They lost some overseas, as well. You cannot pretend that this
:38:39. > :38:42.election has not been a setback. To hear the Conservatives who said they
:38:43. > :38:45.were going to get a huge majority to carry through Brexit and to lose the
:38:46. > :38:49.majority they had so that it was catastrophic, it sounds a bit odd.
:38:50. > :38:53.Of course we have been in government for ten years. We have won the last
:38:54. > :38:58.seven or Scotland elections, including this one, we have more
:38:59. > :39:02.votes than anyone else at each of those elections. That is an
:39:03. > :39:05.incredible record. Given that this was a UK general election, was it
:39:06. > :39:10.reasonable for people to look at your record in Hollywood, and to
:39:11. > :39:15.punish you? I don't think you can tell the electorate the basis upon
:39:16. > :39:20.which the vote, they decide. It is legitimate to consider devolved
:39:21. > :39:24.issues as well as reserve issues. There was an unfortunate focus which
:39:25. > :39:28.sometimes allowed some of the absence of any policy content on the
:39:29. > :39:32.Conservatives in Scotland, other than an anti-independence message,
:39:33. > :39:36.there was no discussion of the rape laws, austerity or plans were
:39:37. > :39:40.Brexit, it was just simply about anti-independence. It was not the
:39:41. > :39:44.best election from that point of view, but the electric decide the
:39:45. > :39:48.basis upon which they cast their vote. You did not listen to your
:39:49. > :39:52.Brexit voters. That is why there were swings across Scotland from the
:39:53. > :39:59.SNP to the Conservatives. Those are Brexit voters. And across the UK you
:40:00. > :40:03.have lost your majority, what did you not listen to in terms of the UK
:40:04. > :40:08.that set you back so far? We gave the choice to people in a general
:40:09. > :40:16.election. We did listen. We are the only party that respected the result
:40:17. > :40:24.of the EU referendum. Let me bring in professor of politics at
:40:25. > :40:27.Edinburgh University, Nicola McEwen. On the business of leave and remain
:40:28. > :40:31.voters, any patterns that you have been able to detect in Scotland on
:40:32. > :40:39.how they have responded in this party contest for a UK general
:40:40. > :40:44.election? It is very difficult, given how little it was played as an
:40:45. > :40:51.issue in the Scottish campaign, to draw anything from that. You can
:40:52. > :41:00.look to the North East, for example, whirl was a majority for Remain
:41:01. > :41:07.across Scotland, not in every constituency but we have estimates
:41:08. > :41:10.to suggest that Banff and Buchan as a constituency voted for leaving the
:41:11. > :41:15.referendum, but we don't know if this is reason for a change in the
:41:16. > :41:20.voting preferences in that particular constituency. We don't
:41:21. > :41:25.know any of the issues. Listening to that debate with great interest,
:41:26. > :41:29.though, because it is purely speculative in terms of why people
:41:30. > :41:32.voted the way that they did. With a hung Parliament in which the
:41:33. > :41:37.Conservatives are the largest party, the expectation is that they would
:41:38. > :41:42.have the first opportunity to form the next administration, the next UK
:41:43. > :41:45.Government, but might it just be possible that Jeremy Corbyn forms
:41:46. > :41:52.the next government? Here is what he had to say. That is what we fought
:41:53. > :42:00.the selection for, and this is the programme we put forward in our
:42:01. > :42:03.election. And no deals, no packs, is that the case? We are offering to
:42:04. > :42:08.put forward the programme upon which we fought the election. We have done
:42:09. > :42:12.no deals with anybody. We are there as the Labour Party with our points
:42:13. > :42:15.of view. Everyone knows what they are, and everyone can see the huge
:42:16. > :42:19.increase in our support, because of the way we conduct of the election
:42:20. > :42:26.and the comprehensive nature of the programme we put forward. Do you
:42:27. > :42:30.envisage, then, that you would be able to form a minority government
:42:31. > :42:34.or are we heading, as many predicted, for another general
:42:35. > :42:38.election? Parliament must meet, and then Parliament will have to take a
:42:39. > :42:42.decision on what happens, when the government puts forward the Queen's
:42:43. > :42:48.speech. We will put forward our point of view. We are, of course,
:42:49. > :42:52.ready to serve. In all this uncertainty, should the Brexit
:42:53. > :42:55.negotiations be delayed? They are supposed to be happening in 11 days'
:42:56. > :43:01.time. They are going to have to go ahead. The government in office in
:43:02. > :43:08.11 days' time will have to conduct those Brexit negotiations. Our
:43:09. > :43:13.position is very clear. The most important thing is the trade deal
:43:14. > :43:17.with Europe and I would of thought that a good gesture and Parliament
:43:18. > :43:20.would be to agree that all EU nationals can remain in Britain. To
:43:21. > :43:25.think there should be any delay whatsoever in the negotiations? That
:43:26. > :43:29.is not completely in Britain's hands. That decision has to be taken
:43:30. > :43:32.by the other party to the negotiations. We are ready to
:43:33. > :43:37.undertake negotiations on behalf of this country to protect jobs and
:43:38. > :43:42.have a sensible tariff free trade arrangement with Europe. Do you
:43:43. > :43:46.think Theresa May should resign? I said last night that she fought the
:43:47. > :43:51.election on the basis that it was her campaign, her decision to call
:43:52. > :43:54.the election, it was her name out there and she was saying she was
:43:55. > :43:57.doing it to bring about strong and stable government. This morning it
:43:58. > :44:01.doesn't look like a strong government, a stable government, a
:44:02. > :44:08.government that has any programme whatsoever. You can't put forward a
:44:09. > :44:12.stable government, you have no position. We have just been elected
:44:13. > :44:18.to Parliament a few hours ago, and my party has had a huge increase in
:44:19. > :44:24.its vote, gained seats Oliver Lee country, every region of this
:44:25. > :44:30.country and in Scotland and Wales. -- in all over the country. Young
:44:31. > :44:34.people, all people, everyone in between supported Labour yesterday
:44:35. > :44:38.and they should be very proud of what we achieved. Are you saying
:44:39. > :44:39.that you are the victors and that you should be forming the next
:44:40. > :44:48.government? We put forward our policies, strong
:44:49. > :44:53.and hopeful policies, and they gained a lot of traction. I think
:44:54. > :44:56.it's very clear who won the election. We're ready to serve the
:44:57. > :45:02.people who have given their trust to ours. Jeremy Corbyn speaking from
:45:03. > :45:07.Labour headquarters in London. And if it's not his opportunity to form
:45:08. > :45:09.the next government, a minority administration, he would likely
:45:10. > :45:14.scenario is some kind of deal between the Conservatives and the
:45:15. > :45:22.DUP in Northern Ireland, but what price might the DUP demand in that
:45:23. > :45:30.situation? It's a party formed by Ian Paisley, in distinction to the
:45:31. > :45:35.Ulster Unionist party, which is mortally inclined. In 1994, John
:45:36. > :45:41.Major was Prime Minister and a good phrase used by his government when
:45:42. > :45:44.he said, Britain had snow selfish strategic or economic interest in
:45:45. > :45:49.sustaining Northern Ireland as part of the United Kingdom. I think the
:45:50. > :45:56.DUP will want to things. The want a deal that insures cross-border
:45:57. > :46:00.trade, without the requirement for a pull. They may want to overturn
:46:01. > :46:06.those words that are still formal British policy, no strategic
:46:07. > :46:11.interest. Their manifesto said they wanted the Brexit talks to proceed
:46:12. > :46:16.without there being any hint of any threat whatsoever to Northern
:46:17. > :46:22.Ireland's position within the UK, so I think people want a statement from
:46:23. > :46:27.the Prime Minister, whoever that is, that such an undertaking will be
:46:28. > :46:31.given. Thank you very much, Brian Taylor, our political editor in
:46:32. > :46:36.Scotland. We're going to hear from Downing Street in just a moment, I
:46:37. > :46:41.understand. A quick word with you, Professor Nicola McEwen. I'll come
:46:42. > :46:46.to you in just a moment, because I want to cross live to Westminster
:46:47. > :46:50.and our political editor Laura Kuenssberg, who is outside number
:46:51. > :46:56.ten. What a roller-coaster night. You'd assessment of where we are
:46:57. > :47:02.this morning? It's very fluid. It's clear Theresa May is going to try to
:47:03. > :47:05.stay. I've spoken to senior Tories who spoken to her directly. I've
:47:06. > :47:10.spoken to a senior Cabinet minister who says it's the right thing she
:47:11. > :47:13.tries to do her constitutional duty to put forward a government. There's
:47:14. > :47:19.a sense inside the Tory party that the thing anybody wants is another
:47:20. > :47:22.general election. And if they were plunged immediately into another
:47:23. > :47:27.leadership contest, which would happen if she quits today,
:47:28. > :47:31.inevitably one of the candidates might believe they needed their own
:47:32. > :47:35.mandate in another general election. And given how unpredictable the last
:47:36. > :47:39.one was, given how they got their expectations completely wrong, the
:47:40. > :47:43.one thing the Tories can probably agree on is that they do not want to
:47:44. > :47:50.be going into another general election campaign. However, there
:47:51. > :47:54.are several spanners in the works. Theresa May's political authority is
:47:55. > :48:00.badly, badly damaged. She took a huge risk and she got it wrong.
:48:01. > :48:05.Secondly, in order to stay on, she has to be confident she will be able
:48:06. > :48:10.to do gales, not a formal coalition deal, but that she'll be able to do
:48:11. > :48:16.gales with other parties and most likely the DUP. The problem with
:48:17. > :48:20.that is that Arlene Foster, the leader of the DUP, has told BBC
:48:21. > :48:23.Radio Ulster this morning that she believes Theresa May may not
:48:24. > :48:27.survive. That doesn't mean they're going to try and figure out today,
:48:28. > :48:31.but I just wonder, I get a sense that if there's going to be some
:48:32. > :48:37.kind of understanding that Theresa May can stay for now, get the Brexit
:48:38. > :48:44.negotiations under way in ten or 11 days' time, but over time, both
:48:45. > :48:49.inside her own party and inside the DUP, there's an expectation, if not
:48:50. > :48:55.understanding, that she will have to go. But it's very fluid. 50-50 is
:48:56. > :48:58.being told to me. She is holed up in there and nobody is saying anything
:48:59. > :49:04.officially on the record at all. Thank you very much indeed for
:49:05. > :49:09.joining us this morning with your assessment. That's the UK wide
:49:10. > :49:14.picture, lots of uncertainty there. Let's take a look in more detail at
:49:15. > :49:18.the picture in Scotland, with a summery of the result.
:49:19. > :49:22.Here is David Henderson. What an election this has been. Full of
:49:23. > :49:28.drama and surprises and the end result, a big change in Scotland's
:49:29. > :49:33.political landscape. Remember, this is where we started, this was the
:49:34. > :49:38.electoral map or the last two years, a sea of yellow shows where voters
:49:39. > :49:44.had chosen the SNP. Let's bring you up to date. This is the new
:49:45. > :49:49.political map of Scotland. The SNP has lost ground, it's lost 21 MPs.
:49:50. > :49:54.It is read from Labour, they gained six seats from Labour, most of them
:49:55. > :49:59.through the central belt. Orphanage for the Lib Dems, who have gained
:50:00. > :50:04.three seats. They lost out to the SNP in North East Fife by just two
:50:05. > :50:09.votes, incredibly close there. In the biggest surprise of the night,
:50:10. > :50:14.the Tories have gained 12 new seats in Scotland, that is their best
:50:15. > :50:19.performance 1983. The end results, some big-name casualties for the
:50:20. > :50:24.SNP. Alex Salmond lost as Gordon seat to the Tories. And deputy
:50:25. > :50:30.leader Angus Robertson also lost out in Moray again to the Tories. Let's
:50:31. > :50:34.see where it has left the parties. The Scottish Lib Dems, led by Willie
:50:35. > :50:40.Rennie, now have four members of Parliament. Scottish Labour, led by
:50:41. > :50:44.Kezia Dugdale, now have a seven seat in Scotland. And it's been a great
:50:45. > :50:49.night for the Scottish Tory leader, Ruth Davidson, her party now has 13
:50:50. > :50:54.MPs. For Nicola Sturgeon, you look -- you can look at this two ways.
:50:55. > :50:58.They still dominate Scottish politics with 35 MPs. There are
:50:59. > :51:03.still the biggest Scottish party at Westminster, but they've lost some
:51:04. > :51:10.of their biggest names. And just look at that swing from the SNP to
:51:11. > :51:16.the Scottish Conservatives. It's the story of the night, a swing of more
:51:17. > :51:21.than 13%. That's bound to have far reaching consequences.
:51:22. > :51:25.It is indeed. I wonder what the consequences of this election for
:51:26. > :51:33.the economy and for a business might be. Let's cross to our business
:51:34. > :51:37.editor. What is the market reaction? The biggest market reaction happened
:51:38. > :51:42.pretty much immediately the first exit polls were published last
:51:43. > :51:46.night. Then we saw the pound falling by about 2% against the dollar and
:51:47. > :51:49.the usual. It's pretty easy to see why. We now have a hung parliament,
:51:50. > :51:54.so we don't know who's good to make up the government, we don't know
:51:55. > :51:59.what the economic policies might be, so that creates an uncertain outlook
:52:00. > :52:03.for businesses. Perhaps more importantly, in 11 days' time,
:52:04. > :52:10.negotiations on leaving the EU are due to begin. The prospectors, we
:52:11. > :52:14.may not even have a government at that time, but if we do, it will be
:52:15. > :52:20.in a weaker position. Investors had been bargaining on the fact that the
:52:21. > :52:22.Conservatives would have a relatively comfortable working
:52:23. > :52:27.majority. That's not going to happen. The pound has fallen as much
:52:28. > :52:30.as it did in the wake of the EU referendum last year, because that
:52:31. > :52:35.is the prospect that investors have to take into account, maybe we are
:52:36. > :52:38.less likely to have a hard Brexit family were a few days ago. All of
:52:39. > :52:44.these factors have to be taken into account. The reaction has been a
:52:45. > :52:49.sharp fall on the pound sterling, have about 2% against both major
:52:50. > :52:52.currencies, but we can expect trading to be relatively volatile
:52:53. > :52:57.over the days and weeks to come. Thank you very much for your
:52:58. > :53:03.analysis live from the BBC business studio. Let's just pick up with our
:53:04. > :53:13.political panel. As we move towards the end of our live coverage of
:53:14. > :53:18.Election 2017. Jeremy Purvis, further observations, in particular,
:53:19. > :53:24.on the prospect of some kind of power-sharing arrangement. I think
:53:25. > :53:29.fundamentally, the White Paper on Brexit is dead, so the government,
:53:30. > :53:35.most likely a minority Conservative administration, will have to either
:53:36. > :53:42.rely on supply and demand, or it will try and get support for Brexit
:53:43. > :53:45.proposals. If that's the case, it needs to retreat on some of the hard
:53:46. > :53:50.positions on Brexit it took. So we will need a new White Paper. In
:53:51. > :53:55.Scotland, the letter Nicola Sturgeon wrote on triggering Article 50 is
:53:56. > :53:58.now no longer relevant on Scottish independence and that has to be
:53:59. > :54:02.looked at again. It is encouraged at the SNP are going to take stock, but
:54:03. > :54:08.it would be interesting to see what happens. It's probably a better
:54:09. > :54:11.scenario for the country, that we may have a more sensible way
:54:12. > :54:14.forward, and if we can get that, that would be a good countermeasure
:54:15. > :54:20.to the uncertainty in the Tory party. Briefly, if the SNP have to
:54:21. > :54:25.take independence of the table, do you have to take a second vote on
:54:26. > :54:30.Brexit off the table as well? Keith referred to that as well, but in a
:54:31. > :54:36.funny kind of way, it probably makes it more relevant. If there
:54:37. > :54:39.negotiations commence, with whoever is in government, the case further
:54:40. > :54:44.public to ratify that deal probably stronger. But this will be part of
:54:45. > :54:48.discussions one ) Parliament. Martin McCluskey, all from a later point of
:54:49. > :54:51.view, would you rather the Conservatives form the next
:54:52. > :54:55.government would you rather that Jimmy Corrigan, a Labour leader you
:54:56. > :55:01.certainly did not support, got a chance to have a go? I would always
:55:02. > :55:05.rather have a Labour government. You heard clearly from Jeddah Mayfair
:55:06. > :55:12.that if we are given every opportunity, we will put our
:55:13. > :55:17.proposals forward for the Queens speech. That would potentially be
:55:18. > :55:24.less stable than some kind of agreement between the Conservatives
:55:25. > :55:28.and the DUP? It's for the other parties, and they know what we would
:55:29. > :55:34.put into a Queens speech, because a manifesto was very clear. It would
:55:35. > :55:38.be for them to decide how to vote on it. It's obvious they gamble that
:55:39. > :55:46.hasn't paid off for Theresa May. Just how big a mistake as she made,
:55:47. > :55:51.Jamie? As a Scottish Conservative, I am very pleased. I think we've made
:55:52. > :55:53.tremendous steps under Ruth Davidson's leadership. We've gone
:55:54. > :55:59.from strength to strength in Scotland. But absolutely, we are
:56:00. > :56:02.disappointed to have lost our majority in that respect. The onus
:56:03. > :56:08.is on Parliament to come together and find a way forward. That has to
:56:09. > :56:13.involve the largest party, with the most votes in the big issues of the
:56:14. > :56:18.vote. But not necessarily with Theresa May at the helm, at least
:56:19. > :56:23.she may carry on for a short period, but would you expect she will have
:56:24. > :56:27.to go in the coming weeks? The Prime Minister is due to make a statement
:56:28. > :56:32.any moment now. We'll find out more about her thoughts then. But at the
:56:33. > :56:38.moment, she is the Prime Minister and a leader and she will carry on
:56:39. > :56:42.with negotiations on Monday. The First Minister says she is thinking
:56:43. > :56:45.about her response. What would your advice to Herbie? The point that was
:56:46. > :56:49.made about the White Paper, submission made by the Scottish
:56:50. > :56:54.Government was not about independence, it was about how the
:56:55. > :56:57.UK can approach Brexit. If Jeremy Corbyn thinks a minority government
:56:58. > :57:04.is unstable then he must think the same about a Labour one. There is an
:57:05. > :57:08.opportunity to end austerity at this election and we should take that
:57:09. > :57:12.opportunity. Thank you to all of you on the panel. Most of you have
:57:13. > :57:19.stayed up all M. Your PCH contributions to the programme. A
:57:20. > :57:23.quick word from due, Brian. The SNP won the election but lost ground and
:57:24. > :57:27.lost momentum with regard to the referendum. Theresa May said she
:57:28. > :57:32.wanted a personal mandate and to strengthen Britain's hand in
:57:33. > :57:38.negotiations. She lost all of these. A triple failure and at the result
:57:39. > :57:44.from a calamitous decision. Here we have it, a hung parliament is the
:57:45. > :57:48.outcome of the 2017 general election. The Conservatives the
:57:49. > :57:53.largest party across the UK, the SNP the largest party in Scotland, but
:57:54. > :57:55.big setbacks were both Nicola Sturgeon and for Theresa May and a
:57:56. > :58:08.great deal of uncertainty ahead. This has been Election 2017.
:58:09. > :58:12.We are the length and breadth of the country to cover all the big
:58:13. > :58:14.moments. If these results are correct, Theresa May will not have
:58:15. > :58:43.the mandate that she hoped for. So that's your new MP in Rutherglen
:58:44. > :58:47.and Hamilton. Mhairi Black is back. She was the youngest MP in the last
:58:48. > :58:48.parliament. We are prepared to work with anyone in terms of the
:58:49. > :59:07.Progressive Alliance. The SNP's Westminster leader is out,
:59:08. > :59:18.there is the new MP for Moray. Two winds, back-to-back for the
:59:19. > :59:28.Tories. He is out! The former Deputy Prime Minister, Nick Clegg, has lost
:59:29. > :59:34.in Sheffield Hallam. Voting for hope for the future and turning their
:59:35. > :59:42.backs on austerity. UK wide, this is a disaster for Theresa May. The
:59:43. > :59:47.Conservative Party would ensure we fulfil our duty in ensuring
:59:48. > :59:50.stability, so that we can all, as one country, go forward together.
:59:51. > :59:56.It's good night from one of the biggest names in Scottish politics.
:59:57. > :00:00.Overall, the results in Scotland show the SNP will have won a
:00:01. > :00:03.majority of seats in this country. The election has resulted in a hung
:00:04. > :00:04.parliament, with the conservatives are