:00:07. > :00:14.Voting is about to close, Wales and the rest of the UK have spoken. Who
:00:15. > :00:18.will form the next Government? Who is heading to Downing Street? Stay
:00:19. > :00:22.with us for the whole picture from Wales and beyond. Welcome to
:00:23. > :01:15.election 2017 Wales. Good evening. Welcome to BBC Wales
:01:16. > :01:22.election headquarters live in Cardiff. You have made a decision
:01:23. > :01:25.after this unprecedented election campaign. In just a few minutes
:01:26. > :01:30.time, we will be revealing the findings of the exit poll which
:01:31. > :01:35.should give us some idea of the winners and the losers tonight. It
:01:36. > :01:39.has been seven weeks since the Prime Minister Theresa May shocked us all
:01:40. > :01:43.and called this snap election. She moved into Downing Street less than
:01:44. > :01:48.a year ago after David Cameron resigned when he lost his fight to
:01:49. > :01:54.keep the UK in the Union. Will Mrs May keep the top job in British
:01:55. > :01:58.politics? Or will Jeremy Corbyn be handed the keys to number ten? Stay
:01:59. > :02:03.with us on BBC Wales on BBC radio Wales and we will bring you the
:02:04. > :02:12.whole story all through the night. In Wales, there are 40 seats up for
:02:13. > :02:17.grabs. The remainder of the fifth hundred and 60 MPs are chosen to
:02:18. > :02:22.represent seeds in England. As those results come in, we will be shown
:02:23. > :02:29.how they shape the big race to number ten. Yes, I am here in our
:02:30. > :02:32.virtual reality graphics studio. As the results come in, I will show you
:02:33. > :02:38.how that changes the political landscape in Wales, how that affects
:02:39. > :02:41.the make-up of the House of Commons and ultimately decides which party
:02:42. > :02:47.leader walks up Downing Street and through that door to number ten.
:02:48. > :02:51.Much more throughout the night. All the main party leaders have been
:02:52. > :02:55.campaigning hard, but will be doorknocking and the debating
:02:56. > :03:01.payoff? Will Plaid Cymru's Leanne Wood be looking for more seats for
:03:02. > :03:03.her party in parliament? Can Tim Farron's liberal Democrats make a
:03:04. > :03:09.comeback? Now that Brexit is happening, what is in store for Ukip
:03:10. > :03:20.and their leader Paul Nuttall? In Scotland, Nicola Sturgeon's SNP are
:03:21. > :03:23.defending a land landslide. What happens here and in other cities
:03:24. > :03:27.like this will give us a strong signal about who might make it to
:03:28. > :03:36.number ten and how big their majority will be. SNP dominance, the
:03:37. > :03:42.big story here two years ago when the party won 56 of Scotland's 59
:03:43. > :03:49.seats with the bar set so high, can they do it again? Of course, we will
:03:50. > :03:53.bring you all the Welsh results, our reporters all across the country
:03:54. > :03:57.will keep us up to date and on this over Felicity Evans will be getting
:03:58. > :04:02.reaction from politicians and pundits. Yes. We will. I am not
:04:03. > :04:05.short of company and I won't be all night. The politicians will be
:04:06. > :04:09.giving me their reaction and analysis of the results as they come
:04:10. > :04:13.in. As you would expect, all the cheers and the tears from my guests
:04:14. > :04:18.on the sofa. You will not miss a thing. Tonight we will talk to the
:04:19. > :04:21.big names and we will have expert analysis from professors and pundits
:04:22. > :04:26.joining us throughout the night. Crunching the numbers will be our
:04:27. > :04:30.political editor. We will be reflecting on all these results as
:04:31. > :04:34.they come in and we will be trying to make sense of them. Most
:04:35. > :04:38.crucially, we will become Carr putting them into the bigger
:04:39. > :04:47.picture, not just across Wales, but right across the UK as the results
:04:48. > :04:54.come in. In a moment, as Big Ben strikes ten o'clock, we will resist
:04:55. > :04:59.Connacht reveal the -- revealed the results of the exit poll. There is
:05:00. > :05:11.of course a margin of error. People across the UK were asked how they
:05:12. > :05:19.voted. Conservatives, the largest party. That is the poll and we have
:05:20. > :05:30.the detail. The Conservatives on 314, Labour on 266, the SNP on 34,
:05:31. > :05:36.Lib Dems on 14, Plaid Cymru on three and the Greens on one. Ukip on zero
:05:37. > :05:43.and the other parties a combination of 18 votes. Seats, I should say.
:05:44. > :05:58.Let's go straight for some more analysis with our win. The BBC asked
:05:59. > :06:03.over -- many people how they voted as they left. We are predicting that
:06:04. > :06:06.the Conservatives will be the largest party, astonishingly short
:06:07. > :06:10.of an overall majority. Let's just run through those numbers again.
:06:11. > :06:16.Theresa May, the leader of the Conservative Party will be leading
:06:17. > :06:19.314 MPs according to our poll. They're in mind, those polls can be
:06:20. > :06:23.run. That would be a drop of 17 from the results of the Conservative
:06:24. > :06:26.Party two years ago in the 2015 General Election for some is usually
:06:27. > :06:33.disappointing night for the Conservatives of that turned out to
:06:34. > :06:39.be the case. Labour on 266. Up 34. On where they were after the 2015
:06:40. > :06:44.General Election. The SNP took almost all the seats in Scotland,
:06:45. > :06:49.56, down to 34 member is a Parliament for Nicola Sturgeon's
:06:50. > :06:54.party. Down 22 from their showing in 2015. The Liberal Democrats,
:06:55. > :06:57.disappointing night for them two years ago, but they are up to 40
:06:58. > :07:03.members of Parliament according to our exit polls. Plaid Cymru
:07:04. > :07:06.remaining on three members of Parliament, that would mean the
:07:07. > :07:10.fourth election in a row when they have remained on three members of
:07:11. > :07:15.Parliament. Ukip, for Paul Nuttall, not his Eagle MP according to the
:07:16. > :07:22.poll. A drop of one. -- not a single. Those are the numbers, let's
:07:23. > :07:30.see how that changes the make-up of the House of Commons. The chamber. I
:07:31. > :07:33.will take you dummy stares into our virtual reality chamber. It still a
:07:34. > :07:38.big block of blue on the side, but a lot smaller than it was two years
:07:39. > :07:45.ago. There is the magic number. 326, you can see the line there. Why is
:07:46. > :07:50.that the magic number? Any party wanting to have a majority
:07:51. > :07:55.Government needs to pass 326 to get that majority. As you can see,
:07:56. > :07:59.according to the opinion poll, the exit poll, they are short of that by
:08:00. > :08:04.12 members of Parliament. They are going to have to rely on somebody
:08:05. > :08:07.else. Let's look at the other side and see where will that support come
:08:08. > :08:11.from? Unlikely to come from the Labour Party. There is a large red
:08:12. > :08:17.block here than there was two years ago for Jeremy Corbyn's party. 266
:08:18. > :08:23.MP, up 34 from where they were. A smaller yellow block for the SNP,
:08:24. > :08:26.down from 56 to 34. There is a slightly larger Liberal Democrats
:08:27. > :08:31.block there, 40 members of Parliament for them. And for Plaid
:08:32. > :08:35.Cymru, according to the exit poll, three MPs. And the Greens, according
:08:36. > :08:40.to this exit poll, retain their one member of Parliament. You will see
:08:41. > :08:43.at the back there, there is a grey block. That is the 18 seats that you
:08:44. > :08:47.get from Northern Ireland. There wasn't pulling in Northern Ireland,
:08:48. > :08:52.so we will have to see what the results are before we can see what
:08:53. > :08:57.the details are on that one. At the moment, according to this exit poll,
:08:58. > :09:00.and we know polls haven't been as accurate as we would like them to be
:09:01. > :09:06.over the last two months, but that would suggest that. Back to you.
:09:07. > :09:15.Thank you. Plenty to talk about there. You can join in with
:09:16. > :09:21.hashtags. You can follow us on Twitter and there will be results,
:09:22. > :09:28.comment and analysis on our live pages all night and tomorrow on BBC
:09:29. > :09:37.Wales .co .uk. Let's take a closer look at the exit poll with our
:09:38. > :09:41.political experts. Good evening. It will be a long night and an
:09:42. > :09:48.interesting night. That exit poll, what did you make of that? If it is
:09:49. > :09:52.going to be the case, it is an extraordinary result. Initial
:09:53. > :09:57.response is that it has not worked for Theresa May. She went into this
:09:58. > :10:00.General Election to increase the size of her majority and that exit
:10:01. > :10:05.poll is indicating that that is not going to be the case. It would
:10:06. > :10:14.appear to have backfired spectacularly and equally, it would
:10:15. > :10:21.show and be a strong indication for the campaign run by Jeremy Corbyn
:10:22. > :10:30.and all the fears that he was just preaching to the converted, would
:10:31. > :10:34.prove not to be the case. A lot of scepticism about exit polls, they
:10:35. > :10:38.have been pretty accurate in the last three elections. Does that feel
:10:39. > :10:45.about right to you? I'm not sure. I think the last exit poll in 2015
:10:46. > :10:51.predicted they were 15 seats out. That was critical in this case, if
:10:52. > :10:58.we're of being 12 seats out, and margin of error like that is about
:10:59. > :11:04.right. And it is right, this has been a disastrous campaign for
:11:05. > :11:09.Theresa May. She started with a healthy lead with a kind of energy
:11:10. > :11:12.around the whole campaign, it is incredible to end up somewhere near
:11:13. > :11:17.this which is almost certainly where we will end up now. Richard, would
:11:18. > :11:27.you agree? I will add a health warning. The way they do this, they
:11:28. > :11:33.go to 144 polling stations throughout the UK. There is every
:11:34. > :11:38.indication this is a very difficult set of results, Brexit seems to have
:11:39. > :11:43.changed things, Ukip seem to have been cobbled up, the Greens, there
:11:44. > :11:47.have been lots of changes this time round. It is a very brave effort,
:11:48. > :11:51.these are the best people in the business. This is as good as you can
:11:52. > :11:56.do it, but there must be a health warning about this. They could be
:11:57. > :12:01.out. It is going to be out. But how much? It is a really big question.
:12:02. > :12:07.If this is correct... Let me just show pictures of Sunderland South
:12:08. > :12:14.where counting has started. They are always first. Always a race. They
:12:15. > :12:18.have got people lined up, in their trainers, young people, it is a
:12:19. > :12:22.Labour stronghold. They have won it in the last six general elections
:12:23. > :12:26.and will probably win again in terms of getting first without result. We
:12:27. > :12:30.are expecting it in 40 minutes or so. The real poll will start coming
:12:31. > :12:37.in. Back to the exit poll, Richard, you are sceptical. I think we are in
:12:38. > :12:49.uncharted two rains here. There has been a lot of changing the electoral
:12:50. > :12:55.system -- terrain. It is awful for Theresa May, a personal triumph for
:12:56. > :12:59.Jeremy Corbyn, awful for Nicola Sturgeon, we have re-mention how bad
:13:00. > :13:06.it is for Nicola Sturgeon. They are the party who lose out most in this
:13:07. > :13:11.poll. Richard is absolutely right. 40,000 odd polling stations across
:13:12. > :13:14.the UK and this is a small sample. But they have got to be pretty
:13:15. > :13:20.dramatically wrong in this case for this to be anything other than a
:13:21. > :13:25.disastrous election for the Tories. Interesting constituencies for the
:13:26. > :13:29.Tories. Not least the ones in Wales which will be interesting. Yes, an
:13:30. > :13:33.interesting night whatever happens. Let's go across to the panel. As
:13:34. > :13:39.always, sharp intakes of breath when we get exit polls doing these
:13:40. > :13:51.election programmes. Let's see what our panellists make of it. What did
:13:52. > :13:56.you make of this exit poll? Given all the caveats we've heard, it is
:13:57. > :14:01.quite right. Historically, we find exit polls of this nature are
:14:02. > :14:06.usually with about 15 or 20 seats. That 15 or 20 seats across the UK is
:14:07. > :14:14.crucial in this particular outcome because it is difficult as you can
:14:15. > :14:18.see now that this has not been anything but a personal disaster the
:14:19. > :14:23.Theresa May. Many of us felt we didn't need a General Election. I
:14:24. > :14:28.got the views from people when canvassing that people didn't want
:14:29. > :14:32.an election, it was very much made as a vehicle for Theresa May herself
:14:33. > :14:38.and it looks like she has failed to get a majority. I suspect, I know
:14:39. > :14:42.the Conservative Party pretty well, the knives will be a pretty quickly
:14:43. > :14:49.to get rid of her. I would agree with all of that. Canvassing myself,
:14:50. > :14:54.I came across people time and time again who were really cheesed off
:14:55. > :14:59.that they had this election forced on them. They resented this, they
:15:00. > :15:05.couldn't see why it was happening. I could never see why it was happening
:15:06. > :15:08.because being in Parliament myself, I could see on a daily basis that
:15:09. > :15:13.Theresa May and the Conservatives had a perfectly workable majority.
:15:14. > :15:19.They were not losing votes in the Commons and they were losing a tiny
:15:20. > :15:24.number of votes in the Lords, which were then returned to the Commons. I
:15:25. > :15:33.fail to understand why she called the election and she has come very
:15:34. > :15:37.badly unstuck, it would seem. It was called for cynical and opportunistic
:15:38. > :15:40.reasons, she thought that Jeremy Corbyn was spectacularly unelectable
:15:41. > :15:44.as a potential Prime Minister. The Labour Party was in meltdown and she
:15:45. > :15:49.quite cynically decided that she would take advantage of that. She
:15:50. > :15:53.thought it was an open goal to kick the ball into. It is done
:15:54. > :15:59.spectacularly wrong because she is a disastrous electoral campaign and I
:16:00. > :16:04.think the public at large are not mugs. They can see politicians for
:16:05. > :16:09.what they are when they have tried to pull a fast one. That is what has
:16:10. > :16:12.happened here. In a way, I am obviously now fearful about what
:16:13. > :16:21.this means for the Brexit process if this poll is accurate, in a sense, I
:16:22. > :16:23.like to see people rising up against politicians who are taking them for
:16:24. > :16:33.full. We don't have a Conservative here to
:16:34. > :16:38.defend the decision to call an election. But there would have been
:16:39. > :16:41.general a election scheduled at the end of the Brexit negotiation
:16:42. > :16:45.process, which Theresa May said would have made it difficult to
:16:46. > :16:49.strike that hard bargain. Do you buy that? Well, we will have a Tory
:16:50. > :16:55.shortly to defend her. Everyone agrees it was a cynical move. If she
:16:56. > :17:00.wanted to validate her position as Prime Minister, she should have done
:17:01. > :17:04.that last year. Shisha have said, I have been appointed and I will now
:17:05. > :17:11.have an election and get myself validated -- she should have said
:17:12. > :17:14.that. But this has been proved to be opportunistic. And she has proved to
:17:15. > :17:19.be an electoral liability. She made the whole thing about herself. It
:17:20. > :17:26.was Theresa May? Battle bus, my manifesto, my, my, my. She has come
:17:27. > :17:29.across as robotic, whereas Jeremy Corbyn comes across as a genuine
:17:30. > :17:35.conviction politician and people like that. Let's see some life
:17:36. > :17:40.pictures of the count in Newcastle. It is always a race in the
:17:41. > :17:43.north-east to see who is first. Normally, Sunderland South wins.
:17:44. > :17:50.Look at that athleticismmacro that is what we need. Then we can put
:17:51. > :17:54.meat on the bones of this exit poll. Courtesy of that lady, I think we
:17:55. > :17:58.are going to get some results soon. That is very good going. We will
:17:59. > :18:01.hear more from our panellists shortly and talk about what this
:18:02. > :18:08.exit poll suggests for their own party. But for now, back to you.
:18:09. > :18:14.Right, we are going to go to Scotland. As we have established,
:18:15. > :18:19.this poll is very interesting for the SNP. The exit poll suggests that
:18:20. > :18:25.they would be down 22 seats, which would be a huge shock for Nicola
:18:26. > :18:34.Sturgeon. Our reporter is there. How is it going down? Welcome to the
:18:35. > :18:39.Emirates Arena here in Glasgow, where the first boxes have just
:18:40. > :18:44.arrived and accounting will be getting under way for the seven
:18:45. > :18:47.Glasgow constituencies across Scotland, 59 seats up for grabs
:18:48. > :18:52.tonight. You will remember that two years ago, the SNP, on that
:18:53. > :18:56.remarkable night, won 56 of those seats. The question tonight is, how
:18:57. > :19:00.many of those seats can the party defend? We have seen the exit poll
:19:01. > :19:07.suggesting that the SNP is on course to lose 22 of those seats, ending up
:19:08. > :19:14.on 34 of the 59 across Scotland. I have had some early reaction from
:19:15. > :19:18.some SNP members to the exit poll. Councillor Alex Wilson, an SNP
:19:19. > :19:22.councillor in Glasgow, told me that they don't expect that many losses.
:19:23. > :19:27.They are expecting some, but they still expect to end the night with
:19:28. > :19:32.more than 40 seats. They think the exit poll is out had harsh and the
:19:33. > :19:39.SNP does not expect to lose any seats in Glasgow, where they took
:19:40. > :19:47.all seven seats last time. The other question will be, how many seats can
:19:48. > :19:51.the Scottish Conservatives win in Scotland? In 1997, the Scottish
:19:52. > :19:55.Conservatives were wiped out, losing every seat in Scotland. Since then,
:19:56. > :20:01.they have never held more than one seat. But opinion polls in the last
:20:02. > :20:06.few weeks have suggested that that is about to change and that they are
:20:07. > :20:09.on course to win seats, perhaps into double figures. They are in a
:20:10. > :20:15.buoyant mood. These are things we will find out over the coming hours.
:20:16. > :20:21.And of course, independence has dominated things, not what Nicola
:20:22. > :20:25.Sturgeon wanted to talk about. That's right, Nicola Sturgeon
:20:26. > :20:29.throughout this campaign has been trying to distance the SNP from the
:20:30. > :20:34.independence debate. I have been looking at the SNP manifesto, and
:20:35. > :20:40.the independence issue is quite far down in it. But the other parties
:20:41. > :20:46.have still be accusing her of being obsessed with independence. She says
:20:47. > :20:50.that in truth, it is the other parties who are trying to focus on
:20:51. > :20:55.independence, trying to scare voters in Scotland about the prospect of
:20:56. > :20:58.another independence referendum. These are all things we will be
:20:59. > :21:04.discussing over the coming hours. Now back to Felicity in Cardiff.
:21:05. > :21:07.Thanks very much and we will be back to Glasgow shortly. We can get
:21:08. > :21:12.Conservative and Labour reaction now to our exit poll. Let's start with
:21:13. > :21:15.the Conservatives and their leader in the Welsh Assembly, Andrew
:21:16. > :21:20.Davies. If this exit poll is true, it's a disaster for your party.
:21:21. > :21:23.Well, I have said throughout the campaign that the numbers need to be
:21:24. > :21:26.crushed and we will see how the seats come in. I have been
:21:27. > :21:32.up-to-date in seven different target seats today. The biggest winner was
:21:33. > :21:40.the rain. It was pouring down. I pay tribute to our activists and
:21:41. > :21:44.candidates who had enthusiasm. You did have a shocker of a campaign,
:21:45. > :21:48.though. You had a Prime Minister who firstly chose to go to the polls
:21:49. > :21:50.after saying she wouldn't, and then deciding to take a very presidential
:21:51. > :21:55.reached during the election campaign, only to come unstuck
:21:56. > :22:00.several times and to look pretty little and find it difficult to
:22:01. > :22:04.connect with voters. I disagree. Theresa May put herself front and
:22:05. > :22:11.centre. She leads, and that is what leadership is about. She would not
:22:12. > :22:15.debate with Jeremy Corbyn. I saw her on numerous programmes with audience
:22:16. > :22:21.participation and one-on-one interviews. This is a democracy.
:22:22. > :22:26.Let's see how the votes come in. We have not had one seat declared yet.
:22:27. > :22:31.All opinion polls need to be treated with caution. But they do give a
:22:32. > :22:40.sense of what may have been going on. Of course. But if this is
:22:41. > :22:43.vindicated, she will have to go, when she? I have had this huge
:22:44. > :22:46.privilege of working with Theresa May over the last eight months and
:22:47. > :22:51.before that when she was Home Secretary, and before that when she
:22:52. > :22:54.was party chair. I have every confidence in Theresa May. But we
:22:55. > :23:03.are at the start of the evening and we need to work through these
:23:04. > :23:09.results. Vaughan for Labour, your reaction? Two things. At the end of
:23:10. > :23:11.any general election campaign, the successful campaign is winning the
:23:12. > :23:15.campaign and having a Labour government. But use if you think
:23:16. > :23:21.where we started, on average 15 point behind in the polls, people
:23:22. > :23:27.expected us to be wiped out. This has been a remarkable turnaround.
:23:28. > :23:31.The campaign is definitely different. We have seen Theresa
:23:32. > :23:34.May's weakness and signs of Jeremy Corbyn having a personality and a
:23:35. > :23:41.manifesto that went down well with lots of people. And in Wales, there
:23:42. > :23:45.a strong Welsh Labour brand. So there is a number of positives, but
:23:46. > :23:49.bear in mind the truth that a successful Labour campaign would be
:23:50. > :23:52.a Labour government. But this is a much better results than anyone
:23:53. > :23:58.expected at the start of the campaign, when Theresa May was 15
:23:59. > :24:03.points ahead in the polls. We have to keep making the caveat that this
:24:04. > :24:06.is only an exit poll, but does the better than expected Labour
:24:07. > :24:12.performance go into the credit column for Jeremy Corbyn, or does he
:24:13. > :24:17.benefit from the poor campaign that was run by the Conservatives? Was he
:24:18. > :24:21.a proactive driver of this relative success, or did he simply benefit
:24:22. > :24:26.from a shocker of a campaign from the Conservatives? Both, surely. You
:24:27. > :24:30.can't say Theresa May's performance had no impact. The U-turn on social
:24:31. > :24:36.care was important both to leadership, but also to trust. Not
:24:37. > :24:40.just a big U-turn in the middle of a campaign, but also than saying
:24:41. > :24:44.nothing had changed. That annoy a lot of people. They said, that is a
:24:45. > :24:48.lie. The second point is that Jeremy Corbyn did draw lots of crowds and
:24:49. > :24:51.if young people in particular have voted in large numbers, there will
:24:52. > :24:54.be credit for him from that, but we need to see all the results across
:24:55. > :25:00.the country. There will be differences. I want to see Labour
:25:01. > :25:04.running the UK with a different ethos and a different direction
:25:05. > :25:09.across the country. This poll suggests you are a long way from
:25:10. > :25:13.that. We are some distance away. That is the honest truth. There is
:25:14. > :25:16.no point coming here and trying to say everything is fine when it
:25:17. > :25:21.isn't. We need to make up for the ground in Scotland. We would also
:25:22. > :25:27.need to make more ground in swing seats in Wales and England. Winning
:25:28. > :25:30.seats like Cardiff North and the Vale of Glamorgan would also suggest
:25:31. > :25:33.we could win similar seats in England. We will need to see the
:25:34. > :25:41.detail of the results. But from where we started, real credit for
:25:42. > :25:44.us. But as a Labour politician who wants a Labour government, success
:25:45. > :25:51.is a Labour government. But this is such an improvement. More from our
:25:52. > :25:55.panel shortly as we continue to digest this exit poll. Beth, over to
:25:56. > :25:58.you. Lots of reaction coming in. George Osborne, the former
:25:59. > :26:04.Chancellor, said it is catastrophic if true. I am sure he might relish
:26:05. > :26:18.seeing the problems for Theresa May. Maybe that is a bit harsh. No! He
:26:19. > :26:24.has enjoyed being an editor of the paper. Three beautiful reporters are
:26:25. > :26:27.ready to talk to us in key battle grounds in Wales. We have Beth Lewis
:26:28. > :26:34.in Bridgend. Let's go there first before we go to Wrexham. Quite a
:26:35. > :26:37.battle between Labour and the Conservatives in the First
:26:38. > :26:45.Minister's backyard. How is it looking? Theresa May came here at
:26:46. > :26:48.the start of the campaign to a community centre, and that was a
:26:49. > :26:52.statement of confidence and ambition for what they could achieve in
:26:53. > :26:58.Wales. They thought they could take seats in Wales that they had not
:26:59. > :27:03.held since the 1980s. At that time, they were talking about taking nine
:27:04. > :27:11.or ten seats from Labour. The polls were suggesting that at the time. It
:27:12. > :27:14.was not just Bridgend, it was Wrexham and Newport and possibly a
:27:15. > :27:19.couple of seats in Cardiff. That was a long time ago. A couple of weeks
:27:20. > :27:23.ago on the campaign trail, I talked to a senior Welsh Conservative who
:27:24. > :27:27.was talking in terms of a rugby team. He said maybe 15 Welsh MPs,
:27:28. > :27:33.with possibly a couple of extra squad members, up from the 11th of a
:27:34. > :27:41.football team they have at the moment. And Bridgend was one of the
:27:42. > :27:43.seats at the forefront because of a majority being in breach of the
:27:44. > :27:47.Conservatives if the opinion polls at that time were to be believed.
:27:48. > :27:52.Today I spoke to somebody in the bus Conservatives who said they were
:27:53. > :27:56.looking at increasing their share of the vote to the biggest share they
:27:57. > :28:02.had had in parliamentary elections. But he was not sure what that would
:28:03. > :28:05.mean in terms of seats. But if they didn't take the seats of Bridgend
:28:06. > :28:08.and Wrexham, at a minimum it would be a huge disappointment for the
:28:09. > :28:16.party in view of their ambitions at the start. And what time are we
:28:17. > :28:21.looking for a result? There are two seats being counted here. But it
:28:22. > :28:27.will be after three o'clock, they are saying. Thank you, Bethan Lewis.
:28:28. > :28:36.Let's go to Wrexham. Quite a fight over there? Absolutely. Welcome to
:28:37. > :28:42.this sports hall, which is a stone's throw from the famous racecourse,
:28:43. > :28:46.Wrexham's football ground. In a few hours, we will get the results of
:28:47. > :28:50.some of the most fascinating and significant electoral race is not
:28:51. > :28:55.only here in north-east Wales, but anywhere in Wales. Two
:28:56. > :29:01.constituencies are being counted, both big Tory targets. Wrexham,
:29:02. > :29:07.where Labour are sending a majority of 1800 votes, and Clwyd South,
:29:08. > :29:14.where Susan Elan Jones for Labour is defending a majority of 2500 votes.
:29:15. > :29:19.Labour are certainly encouraged by that exit poll results. Even before
:29:20. > :29:24.it was published, a senior source told me things would be tight, but
:29:25. > :29:28.he was confident that Labour would hold on to both seats. Saying that,
:29:29. > :29:32.the Conservatives have been quietly confident in recent days and you
:29:33. > :29:36.can't doubt the significance of this neck of the woods to the
:29:37. > :29:40.Conservatives. Theresa May has been in this area twice during the
:29:41. > :29:44.campaign. Carwyn Jones for Welsh Labour has also been here in the
:29:45. > :29:50.final weeks of the campaign. So the question is for Labour are, will
:29:51. > :29:57.that surge at the end of the Corbyn campaign have made a difference
:29:58. > :30:00.here? Will Labour's efforts have made a difference considering that
:30:01. > :30:06.we are close to the border? The other question is where the Ukip
:30:07. > :30:13.votes will go if as predicted, there will be a collapse in the Ukip vote?
:30:14. > :30:16.In Wrexham, there is no Ukip candidate. So there are a lot of
:30:17. > :30:22.questions and a lot of answers will come soon. One good thing about
:30:23. > :30:24.Wrexham is that traditionally, the officials here are very quick at
:30:25. > :30:30.counting, among the first in Wales. We expect Wrexham and Clwyd South to
:30:31. > :30:32.be declared, hopefully, by two o'clock. But now I have said that, I
:30:33. > :30:50.have probably jinxed it. In this real fight. Plaid Cymru look
:30:51. > :30:58.incompetent or are Labour smiling? -- looking confident? This is of
:30:59. > :31:02.course one of Plaid Cymru's top seats and they have recent form here
:31:03. > :31:06.with their party leader, local girl Leanne Wood having won a stunning
:31:07. > :31:13.victory here last year. Strong results here in May's local
:31:14. > :31:19.election. They were hoping to build some momentum and overturn Labour
:31:20. > :31:24.stole what Chris Brian's majority. Even before that exit poll, I was
:31:25. > :31:29.talking to sources in both Plaid Cymru and labour, thinking that
:31:30. > :31:33.Plaid Cymru were going to come up a little short. Some of those
:31:34. > :31:39.traditional Labour voters who at the start of the campaign were wavering
:31:40. > :31:45.were looking at those opinion polls about a Tory landslide and have over
:31:46. > :31:48.the course of the period coming slightly back as the anti-Tory vote
:31:49. > :31:59.has solidified. That is a problem for Plaid Cymru of in other places.
:32:00. > :32:09.Given a bizarre that the campaign, they have been thinking it was a
:32:10. > :32:14.--... It seems that is closer than they expected. One ray of sunshine
:32:15. > :32:21.is the character yon seat. They were hoping to take that back from the
:32:22. > :32:25.Liberal Democrats. -- Canada DM. At since that election, they have
:32:26. > :32:32.helped three seats. Their best ever return is for. They were suggesting
:32:33. > :32:36.they could break those records, five, six or even higher number of
:32:37. > :32:39.seats. It seems from what I have been told that they may well stand
:32:40. > :32:43.still, maybe win the seat back that they won in the past and if that
:32:44. > :32:47.does come to pass, then we may well be asking at the end of the
:32:48. > :32:51.selection a question we have asked of several other recent elections,
:32:52. > :32:53.if Plaid Cymru are not going to be able to take seats from Labour in
:32:54. > :32:59.this election, when are they going to do it? Thank you very much. We
:33:00. > :33:07.will be back to James, it will be a fascinating night. Let's have a look
:33:08. > :33:12.at the counting in Maidenhead, which is Theresa May's constituency. There
:33:13. > :33:15.we go. They are counting there. If indeed she does believe this exit
:33:16. > :33:19.poll, it will not make very comfortable reading at all for her
:33:20. > :33:24.but she has a very healthy majority in Maidenhead. They are still
:33:25. > :33:30.running, got it down to a fine art in Sunderland. All the local tutors
:33:31. > :33:36.are helping out there. -- local youths. They are looking like they
:33:37. > :33:39.will be first, but they have done it seven times before. Lots of
:33:40. > :33:43.intelligence coming in, lots of sources, what are we hearing of
:33:44. > :33:50.interest about Welsh seat? We have had a pretty good summary, the
:33:51. > :33:56.people I spoke to yesterday were feeling pretty happy in Labour than
:33:57. > :34:01.they were months ago. There be Cheshire cat grin is everywhere
:34:02. > :34:05.following that. I still think that the north-east is going to be
:34:06. > :34:15.extremely interesting, the fact that other Plaid Cymru sources talking
:34:16. > :34:22.about a big blow for them. If the exit poll is correct, then the
:34:23. > :34:24.Liberals have not had a great night. 14 is still very low, but it is
:34:25. > :34:41.progress from where they were. I'm quite surprised that Ceredigion
:34:42. > :34:49.is being talked about. Yes, people piling into Ceredigion helping out.
:34:50. > :34:56.Here is the counting. Not quite the athleticism that we saw in
:34:57. > :35:04.Sheffield, but very cautiously counting there. No real urgency.
:35:05. > :35:12.That is a stark contrast, isn't it? Feeling a bit unkind. It will be a
:35:13. > :35:17.long night yet. Another thing worth saying is that if these numbers are
:35:18. > :35:20.correct, with all caveats, we get into very interesting conversations
:35:21. > :35:25.about Government formation. Potentially another conservative
:35:26. > :35:33.Liberal Democrat coalition on the cards. He has ruled out, hasn't he?
:35:34. > :35:36.He's not going there. If you remember, Sinn Fein don't take their
:35:37. > :35:43.seats, that reduces us down immediately. Sinn Fein may well
:35:44. > :35:48.become another seat this evening. DUP conservative arrangement?
:35:49. > :35:53.Potentially. These are very tricky, the majorities will be wafer thin.
:35:54. > :36:00.Heart Brexit negotiations will be extremely difficult. -- hard. What
:36:01. > :36:04.are backfiring election if this is the case, she should never have
:36:05. > :36:08.called it if it is true. Strong and stable going into Brexit, it is
:36:09. > :36:11.anything but. Absolutely. The fact that Richard and I would just doing
:36:12. > :36:17.the calculations about where some additional votes may come from in
:36:18. > :36:22.order to establish a conservative coalition Government or supported
:36:23. > :36:26.Government, it says it all. This was an almighty gamble and it has
:36:27. > :36:31.already completely backfired. We don't know the results, we have
:36:32. > :36:41.gotten exit poll which incidentally leak methodology is becoming
:36:42. > :36:46.stronger and stronger. The 2015 poll it was 15 hour, but before that it
:36:47. > :36:50.was almost perfect. This is very difficult territory for the
:36:51. > :36:54.Conservatives. She had to get the majority for this election to pay
:36:55. > :36:58.off. That was generally the thinking. That was right. People had
:36:59. > :37:03.different views, but broadly a figure of 50 or 60 or above. To an
:37:04. > :37:08.extent, I am reeling from those figures from the exit poll. What
:37:09. > :37:12.I've been thinking about is the rhetoric in the campaign that we all
:37:13. > :37:15.heard. The need to go into Brussels in ten days' time, remember, for
:37:16. > :37:23.those Brexit negotiations which are due to start a thumping majority.
:37:24. > :37:28.The need to have stability going in and an incredibly turbulent time
:37:29. > :37:37.anyway. Now, potentially we have this scenario which is anything but
:37:38. > :37:40.Babel. That would surely bring in a coalition with the Conservatives,
:37:41. > :37:48.which would bring a second referendum. Indeed. I was at in
:37:49. > :37:51.Wrexham the launch of the Welsh Conservative manifesto. That was in
:37:52. > :38:00.a way the low point of the U-turn on social care. The script -- let's go
:38:01. > :38:07.to Downing Street. Is she in? Is the Prime Minister there? No sign of the
:38:08. > :38:14.Prime Minister. The lights are on but there may be no one at home.
:38:15. > :38:17.Extraordinary exit poll, the Conservatives at UK level Rilee
:38:18. > :38:23.Rossouw using to believe it, taking comfort from the fact that their
:38:24. > :38:29.support was underestimated by the exit poll and in 1992, as well. --
:38:30. > :38:35.really refusing to believe it. We have heard from the Chancellor
:38:36. > :38:38.George Osborne, no fan of Theresa May who has described it as a
:38:39. > :38:42.catastrophe for the Prime Minister and the Conservatives. If it is
:38:43. > :38:49.true, what future lies ahead for forming any sort of Government? It
:38:50. > :38:54.is difficult to see how the numbers add up on either side, there are
:38:55. > :38:58.also going to be big questions about Theresa May's leadership, about her
:38:59. > :39:03.own future. This was an election she didn't have to call, she chose to
:39:04. > :39:07.have it. At the start, she had a 20 point opinion poll lead and if the
:39:08. > :39:13.exit poll is right, or anywhere near accurate, she has lost her majority.
:39:14. > :39:17.Which is a pretty extraordinary thing to do. It raises questions
:39:18. > :39:22.about the Brexit negotiations, every vote for her, every increase in her
:39:23. > :39:27.majority would actually strengthen her negotiating hand in Brussels. On
:39:28. > :39:32.her own record, she has failed if this poll is accurate. Thank you
:39:33. > :39:48.very much for now, David. Let's take a look at what is going on. We can
:39:49. > :39:52.see the count here. He is waiting anxiously for the count there, it
:39:53. > :39:58.has been a very tight fight with Labour there. This is the counting
:39:59. > :40:04.in Denbigh. They'll often account going on there. Again, opening the
:40:05. > :40:10.ballot boxes. -- Vale of Clywd. We will see how the counting speeds up
:40:11. > :40:16.there in Denbighshire. Let's go for a look at how the Brexit vote
:40:17. > :40:20.affected this election. It was called the Brexit election, we were
:40:21. > :40:23.all expected to be all about Brexit, but it didn't play the all
:40:24. > :40:29.encompassing role that some of us were expecting. How could it affect
:40:30. > :40:32.the vote. This was the election last time round, let's change that into
:40:33. > :40:36.how these constituencies voted in the Brexit referendum last year. A
:40:37. > :40:41.bit of a caveat here because the results came out along with the 22
:40:42. > :40:46.local authority council areas. There is a bit of guesswork that has gone
:40:47. > :40:49.into this, but we can say that 27 of these 40 constituencies in Wales
:40:50. > :40:55.voted to leave the European Union, ten voted to stay and three, it is
:40:56. > :40:58.kind of too close to call. Let's take you to one very much clearly
:40:59. > :41:03.leave constituency which is this one here, Clywd South. Key marginals
:41:04. > :41:09.between Labour and the Conservatives, how things pay out
:41:10. > :41:15.there? Let's just how clue itself voted in that referendum last year.
:41:16. > :41:27.60% of people wanted to leave the referendum. -- Clywd. Let's look at
:41:28. > :41:33.the 2015 election result, what you can see it as a Labour held seat.
:41:34. > :41:40.About three or four thousand votes ahead of the Conservatives.
:41:41. > :41:46.According to the opinion polls, about half of those people who voted
:41:47. > :41:48.Ukip in 2015 are giving their vote to the Conservatives this time
:41:49. > :41:54.round. They like what Theresa May are doing on Brexit. Five and a half
:41:55. > :42:00.thousand Ukip votes there. Half of that, maybe 3000 votes, given to the
:42:01. > :42:05.Conservatives. It really evens things out. Even before we are
:42:06. > :42:08.looking at what could change in this election. It could have a bearing on
:42:09. > :42:15.how people vote. It doesn't just work in terms of the Leeds side.
:42:16. > :42:21.There is also a remain element. -- leave. Let's take you to Cardiff
:42:22. > :42:24.Central. The Lib Dems battle ground. Cardiff Central was the most
:42:25. > :42:29.pro-remain constituency in the whole of Wales. It works at two thirds
:42:30. > :42:37.wanting to remain in the European Union, one that wanted to leave. How
:42:38. > :42:43.could it affect it? As you see, it is a Labour held seat. About 5000
:42:44. > :42:47.votes ahead of the Liberal Democrats. The Lib Dems are
:42:48. > :42:51.interesting because of all the main big political parties they have
:42:52. > :42:55.given the strongest pro-EU pitch. They have promised that second
:42:56. > :43:00.referendum on the Brexit steel. Surely, some of these Labour
:43:01. > :43:04.Conservatives, Greens, Plaid Cymru supporters will lend their vote to
:43:05. > :43:08.the Lib Dems. How will that affect the difference between the Lib Dems
:43:09. > :43:12.and the Labour Party? May be Brexit didn't have that much of a massive
:43:13. > :43:15.impact on the campaign, but it could have a massive impact on how people
:43:16. > :43:20.will be voting across all these constituencies. There is another
:43:21. > :43:24.element. The Ukip drop-off in elements. Let's change from our
:43:25. > :43:32.Brexit voting map to argue keep supporting that. Ukip didn't win any
:43:33. > :43:37.constituencies, but this sees... See in the South Wales valleys, there is
:43:38. > :43:43.a lot of Ukip support there. This art of north-east Wales Labour held
:43:44. > :43:49.seats, strongly supporting Ukip. We know in a couple of those committed
:43:50. > :43:55.Ukip haven't fielded any candidates. Will any of those go to the
:43:56. > :44:00.Conservatives as predicted? Maybe Brexit wasn't the all-encompassing
:44:01. > :44:05.issue for the selection, but it will certainly have a big impact on how
:44:06. > :44:13.these colours change from 2015 to tonight. We can see pictures of the
:44:14. > :44:17.counting on Islington North because we can see where Jeremy Corbyn's
:44:18. > :44:23.constituency, how they are doing there. No sign of him, but he did
:44:24. > :44:33.win with 60% of the vote last time. He will be hoping to build on that.
:44:34. > :44:38.Indeed frontal, -- in they come. You are hearing interesting things from
:44:39. > :44:42.Scotland. Yes, if the poll is correct, this is a disastrous night
:44:43. > :44:46.for the SMP full stop of the SNP are going to fall that far, there are
:44:47. > :44:51.some very big names that are in the firing line. Angus Robertson, the
:44:52. > :44:57.Commons leader, the Conservatives were targeting their seat. If this
:44:58. > :45:01.poll is correct, then he is almost certainly gone. I am also hearing
:45:02. > :45:11.that Alex Salmond is in deep trouble, that would be a scalp. The
:45:12. > :45:14.SNP is having a big issue in the fishing areas in particular, they
:45:15. > :45:21.will be worried about that area. If this except poll is correct, there
:45:22. > :45:28.will be some really big SNB names in deep
:45:29. > :45:36.Is that due to the way the SNP have played down independence? There are
:45:37. > :45:38.two things going on. In the north-east corner of the Scotland
:45:39. > :45:47.where the SNP have traditionally done well, it was their heartland.
:45:48. > :45:50.That is an area where fishing is important and the whole Brexit
:45:51. > :45:57.situation plays very differently in that part of Scotland compared to
:45:58. > :46:00.the rest. There is a real get out of Europe view. There is also clearly
:46:01. > :46:07.lots of tactical voting going on amongst Unionists in Scotland to
:46:08. > :46:11.take out the SNP sitting MP. So it is a combination of some area
:46:12. > :46:19.specific things and perhaps a Labour surge in Glasgow, a Corbyn surge in
:46:20. > :46:26.Glasgow. But also the tactical voting. There is a mixture of
:46:27. > :46:30.factors. It is hard for the SNP, because they were facing a challenge
:46:31. > :46:36.from Labour and the Conservatives simultaneously. And it looks as if
:46:37. > :46:46.the Lib Dems have moved into some of that territory. Thank you for now.
:46:47. > :46:55.Let's go to Ebbw Vale. Our reporter is there. Counting is under way?
:46:56. > :46:58.Verification is under way. Some announcements are being made about
:46:59. > :47:07.what will happen this evening. Could be an interesting one, because it is
:47:08. > :47:10.a safe Labour seat in theory. But there have been upset here in the
:47:11. > :47:14.past from independent candidates challenging the Labour Party and
:47:15. > :47:19.this time around, it looks like Plaid Cymru could mount that
:47:20. > :47:22.challenge. The same candidates who stood in the Assembly election here
:47:23. > :47:31.last time is standing again in the Westminster elections this time. He
:47:32. > :47:35.came within 650 votes of winning this seat at the Assembly elections.
:47:36. > :47:40.The question is whether he can build on that momentum and win the seat
:47:41. > :47:47.for Westminster. The Labour Party have yet to comment, other than to
:47:48. > :47:54.smile at that exit poll Plaid Cymru say there are a lot of that to
:47:55. > :48:16.Llandudno -- let's go to Llandudno. How is it looking? It is a bit quiet
:48:17. > :48:19.at the moment. I have spoken to the Conservative Party members and they
:48:20. > :48:25.were quite shocked at the exit polls, but they were quite confident
:48:26. > :48:31.locally about the two seats here in Aberconwy and Clwyd West. I have
:48:32. > :48:36.spoken to Plaid Cymru members. They feel they have had a good campaign
:48:37. > :48:43.and have possibly increased in Clwyd West. And I haven't met a Labour
:48:44. > :48:48.candidate yet, so we are not sure how they are feeling, but I believe
:48:49. > :48:53.there are quietly confident about an increase in the Clwyd West area.
:48:54. > :49:01.Let's cross to David Grundy in Swansea. Good evening from Swansea.
:49:02. > :49:06.I feel sorry for my colleagues who are slumming it tonight in leisure
:49:07. > :49:12.centres. I am in grand surroundings. Two years ago, I did say on the
:49:13. > :49:14.election programme that we were not expecting any surprises from the
:49:15. > :49:19.three constituencies they were counting at the leisure centre over
:49:20. > :49:23.the road, Swansea West, Swansea East and Gower. But I did say we might be
:49:24. > :49:27.in for a surprise from Gower and what a surprise was. The
:49:28. > :49:29.Conservative took that seat with just 27 votes, the slimmest majority
:49:30. > :49:40.of any of the constituencies around the UK. Byron Davies has been doing
:49:41. > :49:47.some campaigning in Gower. His taxi as for Swansea East on Swansea West,
:49:48. > :49:57.we are not expecting too many surprises Labour seats for years. --
:49:58. > :50:01.they have been safe Labour seat for years. No crystal ball gazing
:50:02. > :50:05.tonight. We are going to get some surprises. Whether the Labour Party
:50:06. > :50:08.text back Gower, which are lost for two years after having it for 100
:50:09. > :50:11.years, or whether the Conservatives can keep hold of that seat, it will
:50:12. > :50:15.certainly be interesting and we could be here for a long time
:50:16. > :50:19.because the last time, there were two recounts, so three counts in
:50:20. > :50:26.total. And we finished at about 5:15 a.m.. You always deserve a bit of
:50:27. > :50:30.grandeur, David! We can now be joined by the leader of the Labour
:50:31. > :50:38.Party in Wales, First Minister Carwyn Jones. I am sure you are
:50:39. > :50:44.thrilled with this exit poll. Well, we have to see what the final
:50:45. > :50:48.results are. A long way to go yet. And there are many votes to be
:50:49. > :50:55.counted. But things have been volatile. None of us is any the
:50:56. > :50:59.wiser yet. If it turns out to be correct, will you be the first to
:51:00. > :51:03.congratulate Jeremy Corbyn? You have held him at arm 's length throughout
:51:04. > :51:08.the campaign. Not at all. Jeremy Corbyn has run a superb campaign. He
:51:09. > :51:15.has been energetic. He has spoken to members of the public. He didn't
:51:16. > :51:19.speak to meeting is full of people like him. He listened, and that was
:51:20. > :51:24.the difference in this campaign. A lady leadership that listened and
:51:25. > :51:26.they Conservative leadership that took people for granted and thought
:51:27. > :51:34.they didn't have to engage in debate. Are you surprised that he
:51:35. > :51:37.had such a good campaign? Well, he has been in politics for a long
:51:38. > :51:43.time. He is a man of great principle. With these things, it is
:51:44. > :51:49.the energy level you need to sustain and he has done that fantastically.
:51:50. > :51:55.How is it looking in Bridgend? Well, I am not in Bridgend at the moment,
:51:56. > :51:59.so I couldn't tell you. But what did strike me is the number of young
:52:00. > :52:04.people coming out to vote. Usually in the polling station near to me,
:52:05. > :52:10.there is usually a flow of people who are 50 plus at that time of day.
:52:11. > :52:15.But I was struck by the number of young people. If that is true across
:52:16. > :52:17.the whole of Wales, we will see a significant rise in the number of
:52:18. > :52:26.young people voting, which can only be a good thing. It is early days,
:52:27. > :52:31.but would you look at a party to do deals with anybody if the exit poll
:52:32. > :52:36.is correct? You are trying to tempt me into making a comment on the exit
:52:37. > :52:40.poll. In the last few weeks, we have had polls that are all over the
:52:41. > :52:43.place. We have seen them up and down like a yo-yo. This one is not in
:52:44. > :52:47.line with the polls we saw last night. I don't do anybody can
:52:48. > :52:52.understand the results until the votes are counted. Thank you and
:52:53. > :53:00.hopefully, we will speak to you later. We have pictures now of
:53:01. > :53:06.Wrexham. We can see the minister smiling. He is looking pretty
:53:07. > :53:13.chuffed. Will he give us a thumbs up about this vote? He is happy. Maybe
:53:14. > :53:19.he was saying yesterday rather than coffee, but he looked happy. This is
:53:20. > :53:27.Ceredigion and we heard earlier about the tight fight there between
:53:28. > :53:29.the Lib Dems and Plaid Cymru. We are expecting a flurry of results
:53:30. > :53:35.throughout the evening, so please stay with us if you can. Now let's
:53:36. > :53:41.go back to Felicity. Are the bananas at yet? I do have a secret stash of
:53:42. > :53:45.bananas. If you are nice to me later, I will let you have a few
:53:46. > :53:50.keep us going. We are here all night to bring you every declaration.
:53:51. > :53:53.Let's talk more about this exit poll with my guests and particularly
:53:54. > :53:59.about what it suggests about the fortunes of the smaller parties.
:54:00. > :54:02.Jenny round the sun, it looks like there is some progress for the
:54:03. > :54:07.Liberal Democrats, but not the sort of breakthrough your leader will
:54:08. > :54:12.have been hoping for? We all enjoyed the idea that there was a massive
:54:13. > :54:16.surge, but it was obvious to all of us a long time ago that it was going
:54:17. > :54:24.to be a long, hard slog to rebuild the party after the last general
:54:25. > :54:29.election result. If the exit poll is accurate, I will have a quiet,
:54:30. > :54:35.modest satisfaction at that increase. But I would say yet again
:54:36. > :54:45.come it is very early in the evening. Let's see how things go. I
:54:46. > :54:51.think we ran a clear, honourable campaign, making it clear that we
:54:52. > :54:57.were very concerned about Brexit. And I do think that already, it is
:54:58. > :55:02.obvious that the disaster of the campaign for the Tory party will not
:55:03. > :55:07.have given Theresa May, even if she remains Prime Minister, will not
:55:08. > :55:12.have given her the clear hand on Brexit negotiations for a hard
:55:13. > :55:17.Brexit that she was determined on and I am pleased about that.
:55:18. > :55:24.Christine Hamilton for Ukip, if this exit poll is true, it suggests that
:55:25. > :55:27.the country is still split on the sort of Brexit it wants to see and
:55:28. > :55:32.is not convinced by what Theresa May have to say. She went into the
:55:33. > :55:36.election saying this was all about Brexit and apparently, she seems to
:55:37. > :55:40.have got a lot of votes for Ukip. Where would she be if she hadn't? It
:55:41. > :55:46.would have been even more disastrous for her. If the polls are correct
:55:47. > :55:49.and Theresa May end up leading a minority government or some new
:55:50. > :55:53.Conservative Prime Minister, Ukip will be even more important,
:55:54. > :55:56.obviously not in the House of Commons, but as a force in the
:55:57. > :56:01.background. The majority of people in the UK voted to leave the EU and
:56:02. > :56:06.that has to be fulfilled. But if it is the type of Brexit that is the
:56:07. > :56:11.question. If they haven't voted for Theresa May's hard Brexit, that
:56:12. > :56:15.suggests that they don't want Ukip's hard Brexit either. Well, I don't
:56:16. > :56:20.accept the hard or soft Brexit. We are leaving and that means we have
:56:21. > :56:26.to leave the single market as well. They didn't vote for Ukip. Too many
:56:27. > :56:34.people feel that Ukip's job is done. Well, it isn't and this poll proves
:56:35. > :56:38.that. Some people might regret having not voted Ukip when they see
:56:39. > :56:43.what has happened. They might have thought a stronger Ukip vote would
:56:44. > :56:50.have been a good thing. Eurfyl ap Gwilym for Plaid, what do you think
:56:51. > :56:55.the Brexit narrative means in terms of how the vote is split and how the
:56:56. > :57:00.country is feeling heading towards the Brexit negotiations in 11 days'
:57:01. > :57:07.time, says Theresa May? I think a lot of people are not clear about
:57:08. > :57:13.Brexit. I was a Remainer. But when people voted onto, I have been
:57:14. > :57:18.accused in the past by the BBC of being patronising. But I agree with
:57:19. > :57:23.President Mitterand, who said the trouble is, people don't answer the
:57:24. > :57:28.question put on the ballot paper. They saw that referendum is being
:57:29. > :57:30.driven by people like Cameron and Osborne and therefore, if they
:57:31. > :57:38.didn't like that Conservative government, they voted no to get
:57:39. > :57:42.out. Now, as complications and the details of Brexit start emerging, it
:57:43. > :57:46.wasn't properly debated in this election at all. It was terrible in
:57:47. > :57:50.that way. We got very little information from the principal
:57:51. > :57:54.parties about what they were going to do, except for the Conservatives
:57:55. > :57:58.saying they want to get out of the single market, out of the customs
:57:59. > :58:03.union, which would be bad for the UK. Now, everything is in a mix. We
:58:04. > :58:08.will have a weaker government are almost certainly. The Conservatives
:58:09. > :58:14.will be trying to get support from somewhere else, with a discredited
:58:15. > :58:23.leader. And with Labour, Jeremy Corbyn has done extremely well and a
:58:24. > :58:27.lot of their game is due to him, but he is unpopular with the MPs. So
:58:28. > :58:33.there will be tensions for them as well. And what about tensions within
:58:34. > :58:37.Plaid? The poll suggests no progress for them. What about your leader and
:58:38. > :58:42.how she is to be regarded? If Plaid can't make headway in this election,
:58:43. > :58:49.when can it? Well, it is difficult for us in UK-wide elections. The
:58:50. > :58:53.media we get in Wales is overwhelmingly the same as the
:58:54. > :59:10.London-based press. It is different in Scotland. So it is difficult for
:59:11. > :59:14.us. I don't know the statistics. I don't know how sensitive these exit
:59:15. > :59:21.polls are the smaller parties. Let's see. Let's go to one of the key
:59:22. > :59:31.seats for Plaid in this election. Beth is about to talk to the Plaid
:59:32. > :59:35.candidate there. Former Deputy First Minister, good evening. How is it
:59:36. > :59:42.looking for you? It is difficult to say at this early stage, because
:59:43. > :59:49.they only started counting an hour ago. It is too early to predict but
:59:50. > :59:55.it is my suspicion that it has been a good night for Labour generally
:59:56. > :59:59.and it looks as though Plaid has been squeezed in many parts of
:00:00. > :00:06.Wales. Was that the feeling you were getting on the doorstep until today?
:00:07. > :00:13.No, it wasn't. We were getting a good response on the doorstep and I
:00:14. > :00:17.fought a positive campaign, talking about the relationship that Wales
:00:18. > :00:20.has to have with Europe going forward with Brexit happening. We
:00:21. > :00:27.have to defend our rural communities and so on. So it was a positive
:00:28. > :00:31.message I was presenting. But until the result here is announced, we
:00:32. > :00:37.will not know whether it was successful. You sound a bit
:00:38. > :00:39.deflated. Is that what you are getting across Wales, the same sort
:00:40. > :00:51.of response, no breakthrough? I didn't quite hear that question.
:00:52. > :00:55.Just wondering if that is the sort of response you are getting that you
:00:56. > :01:03.haven't made a breakthrough that either. I don't know. We don't know
:01:04. > :01:10.what the result is. I assume you are asking whether we made a
:01:11. > :01:13.breakthrough here, yes? Yes. I'm not hearing you very well,
:01:14. > :01:19.unfortunately, because the sound is rather muffled, but assuming whether
:01:20. > :01:23.you are asking if we made a breakthrough here, it is too early
:01:24. > :01:27.to tell. Looking at the exit poll, some of the feelings that we have
:01:28. > :01:31.had during the day, perhaps Labour are doing better than we expected.
:01:32. > :01:38.Leanne Wood once again has had an awful lot of exposure in the UK wide
:01:39. > :01:42.and Welsh debates, would you have expected to do better? We don't know
:01:43. > :01:49.the result yet, but do you think that has had an impact? Clearly, it
:01:50. > :01:55.was a very difficult General Election because it was held at very
:01:56. > :02:00.short notice and it looks to me as though things have become extremely
:02:01. > :02:04.polarised between on the one hand a fairly right-wing Conservative
:02:05. > :02:07.manifesto and a very left wing Labour manifesto. It looks as though
:02:08. > :02:13.things are polarising between those opposites. Unfortunately, it does
:02:14. > :02:16.look as though, although I don't know because I haven't seen any
:02:17. > :02:23.other evidence, but it does look as though perhaps Plaid Cymru have been
:02:24. > :02:28.fairly squeezed. That may be the result across Wales, I don't know
:02:29. > :02:32.myself. Let's see what happens. Thank you very much. We will be back
:02:33. > :02:39.to you and will find out whether you are heading back to Westminster.
:02:40. > :02:43.That point there about this exit poll and how accurate it can be
:02:44. > :02:53.about smaller parties in specific areas. It is a fair point. As I
:02:54. > :02:59.started in the programme, I will add lots of caveats. The sample around
:03:00. > :03:02.144 polling stations across Britain, rather than the UK, as far as I can
:03:03. > :03:08.see. Then they measure change from the last time round. That has been
:03:09. > :03:13.very accurate in the last few elections any margin of error has
:03:14. > :03:19.been very small. If this is a change election, if is an election where
:03:20. > :03:25.the political tide has shifted, then it is going to be very difficult to
:03:26. > :03:29.pick up changes at a local level. We are going to see parties being
:03:30. > :03:36.squeezed. If you look at the last General Election, Ukip were on 12 or
:03:37. > :03:41.13%. The greens were on three or 4%. Light camera were on three or 4%.
:03:42. > :03:51.There are votes to be squeezed. -- Plaid Cymru were an... I was talking
:03:52. > :03:54.about Scotland earlier, this shock result from Scotland, but if you
:03:55. > :03:57.look at these small detailed the small print of what the BBC are
:03:58. > :04:02.saying it is that lots of these seats are too close to call. They
:04:03. > :04:08.are going for the highest odds. Let's just look at pictures of
:04:09. > :04:13.Sunderland, there we see we think the first result is imminent. Of
:04:14. > :04:18.course, we can see the armed police there, tight security in many
:04:19. > :04:23.polling stations across the UK to date and at the counts. This is
:04:24. > :04:29.Sunderland, we expect Sunderland South to do it again. They deserve
:04:30. > :04:36.to win, don't they? They do. What a professional operation. Just a
:04:37. > :04:43.reflection on Wynn Jones there, pretty downbeat. Maybe it is too
:04:44. > :04:49.close to call clearly also -- a reflection on Ieuan Wyn Jones. Gave
:04:50. > :04:56.a reflection of his party having a tough night. The 2-party squeezed
:04:57. > :05:00.that we have seen. Maybe a bit more of a reflection on that exit poll,
:05:01. > :05:07.what it means in terms of the Brexit process. Again, the health warnings
:05:08. > :05:13.as Richard has talked about. If it is true that the Conservatives have
:05:14. > :05:19.not made any games, on a ticket going a pretty hardline message on
:05:20. > :05:24.Brexit, if I can put it in those terms, Theresa May threatening to
:05:25. > :05:28.walk away with no deal, making immigration the priority, going
:05:29. > :05:32.after that Ukip vote, on one level, the inevitable reading of results
:05:33. > :05:38.like this will be that people want a softer approach to Brexit. Whoever
:05:39. > :05:43.goes into that talk, won't go into a threat of pulling away with no deal.
:05:44. > :05:47.If it is right, what about Theresa May and the exit poll? There will
:05:48. > :05:55.be? Is over her personal future as leader. There will be at the back
:05:56. > :06:02.benches. I don't see how she can emerge from any results that we may
:06:03. > :06:08.see as diminished or damage. We have a result in Newcastle. There they
:06:09. > :06:26.are on the stage. Labour Party 24000 and 71. Peter John Stuart Thomson,
:06:27. > :06:33.Green party candidate 595. And here is the member for the said
:06:34. > :06:44.constituency. There we go, Newcastle Central and Labour winning there.
:06:45. > :06:57.This is the result, Labour on 24,074 -- 20 4071. Ukip on fourth place,
:06:58. > :07:03.the Greens last. A whopping majority of 14,937 for Labour. If you look at
:07:04. > :07:17.the share of the vote, 65% for Labour. 25% for the Conservatives.
:07:18. > :07:27.The all important change, Labour up ten. Up 6% for the Conservatives.
:07:28. > :07:35.Ukip down and crashing down with 11% less and the Greens are on minus
:07:36. > :07:45.three. A swing from Conservative to Labour of 2.1%. It is one result,
:07:46. > :07:48.but extremely interesting. One thing that is interesting there, is where
:07:49. > :07:53.does the Ukip vote go. I think quite a few of us were always sceptical
:07:54. > :07:56.that the Ukip vote would transfer neatly to the Conservative vote in
:07:57. > :08:00.every seat. I think this is important in a couple of seats in
:08:01. > :08:06.Wales because if some of that vote goes to Labour, that would condition
:08:07. > :08:10.some of the votes in the north-east of Wales for Labour. That fits the
:08:11. > :08:16.narrative of the exit poll, doesn't it? We saw a squeeze there. As Laura
:08:17. > :08:21.just rightly pointed out, albeit Ukip vote does not transfer to the
:08:22. > :08:26.Conservatives. Some of it has transferred to Labour. No doubt
:08:27. > :08:30.about it. This will speak to the campaign the Conservatives had. At
:08:31. > :08:32.the start of the campaign, all the polling evidence suggested that the
:08:33. > :08:38.Tories were sucking up most of that vote. They have had a campaign which
:08:39. > :08:41.has reminded some working-class Ukip voters why they didn't like the
:08:42. > :08:48.Tories in the first place, to be blunt. I think it is pretty damning
:08:49. > :08:56.reflection on the campaign that Theresa May and her team has had.
:08:57. > :09:03.Newcastle Central, it is completely dominant as a Labour area. Not
:09:04. > :09:06.dissimilar to some valleys in the Wales where there was a strong Ukip
:09:07. > :09:13.vote. In a sense, it doesn't matter where that vote goes on a lot of the
:09:14. > :09:20.valleys, but it does matter where there is a marginal seat. The Ukip
:09:21. > :09:26.vote on where it goes is far more complex than we would have thought.
:09:27. > :09:31.To throw into that the Ukip vote always having a sense of kicking the
:09:32. > :09:35.system, the rebellious vote, antiestablishment. Maybe Jeremy
:09:36. > :09:40.Corbyn's campaign will have tapped into some of that as well in a way
:09:41. > :09:43.that he has tried to restructure the economy and do things in a different
:09:44. > :09:48.way. That will have been appealing to a lot of people who went to Ukip
:09:49. > :09:53.a number of years ago. We always said that the Ukip vote wasn't just
:09:54. > :09:57.about the EU. All of us accept that. It was about the system, a rejection
:09:58. > :10:00.of the political elite and so on. That is why we are going to see some
:10:01. > :10:14.really interesting dispersal. That is what Theresa May was trying to
:10:15. > :10:18.target with the JAMs. Just about managing. Let's remind ourselves
:10:19. > :10:21.what was being said at the start of this campaign by Conservative
:10:22. > :10:29.activists, they were hoping for a rerun of 1931 and 1935, an election
:10:30. > :10:35.which would absolutely put Labour back for decades, not just that this
:10:36. > :10:39.was going to be a defining election where they could take advantage of
:10:40. > :10:47.the Brexit tied, to push Labour back for decades. Even that result, this
:10:48. > :10:51.is a Labour heartland, Brexit supporting, Labour puts on ten
:10:52. > :10:55.points. An extraordinary result. You have got to say, if it continues,
:10:56. > :11:01.what an extraordinary couple of years for Jeremy Corbyn. Not that
:11:02. > :11:09.long ago that over 170 of his MPs had a vote of no confidence in his.
:11:10. > :11:21.They will be lining up. Sunderland, second result of the night in
:11:22. > :11:23.Sunderland. They had hoped to be first, of course, that they were
:11:24. > :11:35.second. Can we have sound from Sunderland?
:11:36. > :12:15.UK Independence Party, 2379. Labour Party, 24,000... Right, we had big
:12:16. > :12:21.sound problems, but obviously Labour did Winnett. That is Bridget
:12:22. > :12:25.Philipson who did have a big majority anyway. A big majority of
:12:26. > :12:30.the vote last time. It has potentially gone up there, didn't
:12:31. > :12:34.quite hear what has gone up there. Smiles all round. Another thumping
:12:35. > :12:40.result for Labour and I hope very shortly we will have the details for
:12:41. > :12:48.you. Sunderland South, there she is, the new Labour MP, Bridget Philipson
:12:49. > :12:52.I presume there. Very happy in Sunderland South. Let's talk to Paul
:12:53. > :13:03.Davies, who is in Haverfordwest supporting Stephen Crowther with a
:13:04. > :13:06.big rosette. Ashe Stephen Crowther. We have seen the exit polls, it is
:13:07. > :13:15.much too early to tell at the moment, but obviously we will know a
:13:16. > :13:19.little bit later. We saw this in 2015, when the exit poll in that
:13:20. > :13:24.time got it slightly wrong. It did predict a hung parliament then, but
:13:25. > :13:28.we had a majority. You will be hoping that this one is wrong. What
:13:29. > :13:34.are you hearing from your target seats in Bridgend and in the
:13:35. > :13:41.Northeast? I am hearing that we are doing very well in Bridgend, in
:13:42. > :13:46.Wrexham, as well. Time will tell. What is happening is that all the
:13:47. > :13:49.other parties are being squeezed by the Conservatives and by the Labour
:13:50. > :13:54.Party. It seems to me that it will be a two horse race this evening. If
:13:55. > :14:01.the exit poll is correct, she should never have called this election,
:14:02. > :14:06.should she? I think she was right to call this General Election because
:14:07. > :14:10.you made it very clear that there were certain parties going to
:14:11. > :14:14.frustrate the Brexit process and that is why Theresa May called this
:14:15. > :14:21.election. She was right to do so and we will see tomorrow morning who has
:14:22. > :14:24.won the election. As I say, if it is correct, she will be going into
:14:25. > :14:30.those tough negotiations with a weakened hand. We will have to wait
:14:31. > :14:35.and see. As I mentioned earlier, the exit poll two years ago wasn't
:14:36. > :14:40.right. We will have to wait and see how the night progresses. Putting
:14:41. > :14:46.the exit poll aside, do you think you have had a good campaign? I
:14:47. > :14:50.think we have run a good campaign. We have talked about the issues that
:14:51. > :14:56.matter to the people of Wales and to the people of the United Kingdom.
:14:57. > :15:01.Brexit, of course was very important to people on the doorstep and I came
:15:02. > :15:05.across a number of lifelong Labour supporters who said that they would
:15:06. > :15:08.not be voting for Jeremy Corbyn, they couldn't support Jeremy Corbyn
:15:09. > :15:13.to be Prime Minister and that they were voting for Theresa May and the
:15:14. > :15:17.Conservatives. It was shambolic at times, wasn't it? On social care,
:15:18. > :15:23.which is devolved, but on the idea of a cap. It wasn't on the
:15:24. > :15:30.manifesto. It wasn't well thought through, it seems. I don't accept
:15:31. > :15:34.that. I think that the Prime Minister made it absolutely clear
:15:35. > :15:38.that it was right and proper to set out some of the challenges facing
:15:39. > :15:43.Wales and facing the United Kingdom and that is what we did in our
:15:44. > :15:48.manifesto. She was being straight and honest with the British people.
:15:49. > :15:52.Before you go, if you do have to do a deal with somebody, in order to
:15:53. > :15:58.form a Government, would you be happy with that? We will have to
:15:59. > :16:02.wait and see. I am still confident that we can win this election and
:16:03. > :16:03.that the Conservatives will have a majority tomorrow morning. Thank
:16:04. > :16:18.you. Let's go back to the sofas now. We
:16:19. > :16:25.have a couple of result in now. Obviously, both safe Labour seats.
:16:26. > :16:27.But vote share is up. That is obviously encouraging. It is hard to
:16:28. > :16:32.tell what that means for Wales because as we know, we started in
:16:33. > :16:36.such a different position. We would not have expected those results at
:16:37. > :16:40.that point in the campaign. And in Wales, we still have a mountain to
:16:41. > :16:46.climb. The seats in north-east Wales are difficult. So until we start to
:16:47. > :16:51.get the results, it will be hard to tell. From a UK wide perspective, it
:16:52. > :16:57.does show progress for the Labour Party. There is more to do if we
:16:58. > :17:01.want a majority Labour government. In terms of what the Ukip voters
:17:02. > :17:11.have done, you have seen a collapse in both seats. The fox has been shot
:17:12. > :17:14.for Ukip, hasn't it? The question for Ukip since Brexit has been, what
:17:15. > :17:18.are you for, and the voters seem to be answering that question now.
:17:19. > :17:24.Well, the question is whether the Ukip -- where the Ukip vote has
:17:25. > :17:27.gone. There is a common assumption that the Ukip voters and
:17:28. > :17:33.Conservative voters are twins, which is wrong. Ukip has always drawn its
:17:34. > :17:38.support from three places, the Tories, Labour and people who have
:17:39. > :17:42.either never voted before, which kicks in with what our experts were
:17:43. > :17:45.talking about, that was an antiestablishment vote, or people
:17:46. > :17:48.who have not voted for so long that they effectively haven't voted. So
:17:49. > :17:52.Ukip have always drawn support from across the spectrum. It doesn't
:17:53. > :17:59.surprise me that a lot of Ukip votes have gone to Labour. If the Ukip
:18:00. > :18:03.vote was about more than Brexit, what does it say to you about the
:18:04. > :18:08.concerns of the Ukip voters now that they are returning to the two main
:18:09. > :18:14.parties? Well, we are not expecting anything other than a bad results,
:18:15. > :18:18.so there is no big shock for Ukip. But Ukip has to find another role.
:18:19. > :18:22.In Wales, we have the Assembly members and there are plenty of
:18:23. > :18:29.other things. Ukip has to get over this Brexit hurdle. Their main role
:18:30. > :18:32.in the immediate years is to make sure that Brexit happens and that
:18:33. > :18:36.the will of the people is fulfilled. That is looking a little concerning
:18:37. > :18:41.if we have a hung parliament and maybe another election before the
:18:42. > :18:44.end of the year. The people have just made a choice in an election,
:18:45. > :18:49.and that will be the choice of the people. It isn't just a Brexit
:18:50. > :18:51.election. People vote for all sorts of different reasons. The U-turn on
:18:52. > :19:03.social care mattered and had nothing to do with Brexit. Theresa May was
:19:04. > :19:06.dented so severely. Eurfyl ap Gwilym, your thoughts on what
:19:07. > :19:11.appears to be a return to 2-party politics? After all the obituaries
:19:12. > :19:13.that were written for 2-party politics, this election seems to
:19:14. > :19:19.support the idea that at least this time around, it is the two big
:19:20. > :19:24.parties. This time around, that is fair to say. The results reinforce
:19:25. > :19:28.the idea of polarisation between Labour and Conservatives. That might
:19:29. > :19:34.be the pattern today. As McMillan said, events, my dear boy things
:19:35. > :19:37.change. Heaven forbid we have another general election soon. I
:19:38. > :19:42.think we're all tired of this one. The public is certainly sick and
:19:43. > :19:45.tired. But if you think of the likely result that you will have a
:19:46. > :19:48.Conservative Party which can't command an overall majority in the
:19:49. > :19:52.House of Commons, you have a Labour Party which is greatly strengthened
:19:53. > :19:59.and has done well compared with expectation but nevertheless, it is
:20:00. > :20:03.entrenching Jeremy Corbyn at a time when the majority of Labour MPs last
:20:04. > :20:06.time around were against him. There will be great tensions to be worked
:20:07. > :20:12.out and worked through in the Labour Party. It will be a fascinating mix
:20:13. > :20:19.of forces at work over the coming months and years and this is even
:20:20. > :20:24.before you add to this chaotic blend Brexit and the whole discussions
:20:25. > :20:30.with the European Union. We are going to have to calm down for a few
:20:31. > :20:34.days after tonight and try to think our way through this. It is
:20:35. > :20:43.horrendously complicated. We live in interesting times. Now back to Bath.
:20:44. > :20:52.-- back-to-back. Thank you, Fliss. What do you make
:20:53. > :20:58.of it so far? It has been an interesting campaign because of the
:20:59. > :21:01.numbers of layers and the politics and economics. It was a Brexit
:21:02. > :21:06.election, but it wasn't just that. It was many other things. As the
:21:07. > :21:10.hours go on, what will be interesting is how much some of
:21:11. > :21:14.those other debates about household income, about living standards, the
:21:15. > :21:19.kind of things that affect people's pocket, how much that influenced the
:21:20. > :21:23.way people voted as opposed to and as well as Brexit. That is
:21:24. > :21:28.particularly relevant for us in Wales, where our wages are 10% lower
:21:29. > :21:31.than the UK average. Although we have more people working, the
:21:32. > :21:35.quality of those jobs have some question marks over them. That is
:21:36. > :21:39.why I'm interested in what is going on in the north-east of England, but
:21:40. > :21:45.we can talk about that later. Let's go to our correspondent in the brain
:21:46. > :21:51.by Downing Street. David, welcome back. -- in the rain. What is the
:21:52. > :21:57.latest on the UK-wide picture? How is the exit poll going down? My
:21:58. > :22:03.sense is that both major parties are refusing to believe the projection.
:22:04. > :22:08.The Conservatives don't think it is as bad as the projection appears to
:22:09. > :22:13.suggest. And Labour are not sure it is that good, based on their own
:22:14. > :22:16.feedback from doorsteps across the country. The one party that is
:22:17. > :22:20.talking on the record, the Lib Dem press office, said they have had a
:22:21. > :22:26.lot of calls and they are saying that even though they might only get
:22:27. > :22:32.14 seats in this election, no coalition. So you know where you
:22:33. > :22:37.stand with them. And this is only an exit poll, but if it didn't pan out
:22:38. > :22:43.like that, would Theresa May's position be in jeopardy? There would
:22:44. > :22:48.be big questions about her future. This was an election she didn't have
:22:49. > :22:53.to call. She said every vote for her would increase the mandate and
:22:54. > :23:00.enable her to negotiate more strongly with Brussels. She reminded
:23:01. > :23:06.us that those talks start in 11 days' time. The nature of her
:23:07. > :23:09.campaign drew criticism from within Conservative circles and I would
:23:10. > :23:13.expect some Conservative voices to go public with that once the results
:23:14. > :23:17.are in, if they resemble the exit poll. There must be question marks
:23:18. > :23:20.over her future if she went into an election campaign with a 20 point
:23:21. > :23:29.lead and ended up losing her majority. Thank you, David. Let's go
:23:30. > :23:35.to Edinburgh on the BBC's Scotland editor Sarah Smith. Fascinating
:23:36. > :23:43.reading in this exit poll. And it would be very bad news for the SNP?
:23:44. > :23:46.It would be extremely bad news for the SNP, but it is being treated
:23:47. > :23:50.with a great deal of scepticism by them and all the parties across
:23:51. > :23:53.Scotland. The idea that the SNP could lose 22 seats seems very
:23:54. > :23:59.dramatic. They are braced for some losses, because they won 56 out of
:24:00. > :24:03.59 seats in Scotland two years ago. That was a remarkable result and
:24:04. > :24:09.they knew that there were not going to be able to hold all 56. If you
:24:10. > :24:12.had told them two years ago that they were on course to win 34 seats
:24:13. > :24:14.in Scotland, they would have been delighted, funnily enough. They
:24:15. > :24:20.would have thought that was brilliant. They keep pointing out
:24:21. > :24:24.tonight that even if it is that bad and they lose 22 seats, that is more
:24:25. > :24:30.than half of all the seats in Scotland. And that is how you win an
:24:31. > :24:35.election, by winning more than half of the available seats. So they are
:24:36. > :24:40.already saying that 34 would in some ways be a victory. Why Harry that
:24:41. > :24:47.potentially some big names are in jeopardy. -- we are hearing the Alex
:24:48. > :24:53.Salmond and Angus Robertson could be in jeopardy. What do you make of
:24:54. > :24:57.those rumours? Angus Robertson's seat has been a target for the
:24:58. > :25:02.Conservatives. They are hoping to make real gains in this election and
:25:03. > :25:05.I would love to topple him as the SNP's leader in Westminster. Alex
:25:06. > :25:09.Salmond, the former First Minister of Scotland, if they could take
:25:10. > :25:14.that's it, they would be delighted. That is less likely than them being
:25:15. > :25:17.able to topple Angus Robertson. The dynamic of this campaign in Scotland
:25:18. > :25:23.has been different from the rest of the UK because the SNP have been the
:25:24. > :25:28.incumbent party, holding all but three of the seats in the Scotland.
:25:29. > :25:33.And the Tories have been seen as the insurgents, the ones wanting to make
:25:34. > :25:37.gains. They would have been happy if they got into double figures. If
:25:38. > :25:43.they get ten seats, up from the one they have at the moment, they would
:25:44. > :25:47.be cock-a-hoop. It would show that the tide was turning in politics. It
:25:48. > :25:50.would be a shift in the momentum. In this campaign, which has been so
:25:51. > :25:54.based around the question of whether Scotland should have another
:25:55. > :26:02.referendum on Scottish independence, if the SNP for back a bit and the
:26:03. > :26:04.Tories come forward a bit, you momentum shifts and the
:26:05. > :26:07.Conservatives will be able to say that that shows that Scottish voters
:26:08. > :26:17.don't want another referendum. Therefore, you shouldn't have one.
:26:18. > :26:29.Let's go to Ceredigion an account there. -- the count there. How is it
:26:30. > :26:33.looking? It is a bit of a fight. In the past, we may have thought this
:26:34. > :26:37.was a two horse race between Plaid Cymru and the Liberal Democrats, but
:26:38. > :26:42.from speaking to some of the counters, it seems that it is much
:26:43. > :26:46.tighter between the four leading parties, Liberal Democrats, Plaid
:26:47. > :26:52.Cymru, Labour and the Conservatives. This is a target seat for Plaid
:26:53. > :26:56.Cymru and the Liberal Democrats, Mark Williams defending a majority
:26:57. > :27:01.of 3000 following the last general election. Plaid Cymru have chosen a
:27:02. > :27:05.local lad from the Lampeter area. Many say they are pleased with that
:27:06. > :27:15.and that they would like to vote for somebody who is local. He knows the
:27:16. > :27:22.area well and a lot of people have said they may vote for him. But it
:27:23. > :27:28.is hard to dismiss that vote for Labour and the Conservatives. The
:27:29. > :27:32.Liberal Democrats have been condemned this week following some
:27:33. > :27:37.pamphleteering and some adverts that have been on Facebook, Mark Williams
:27:38. > :27:43.saying he knew nothing about it and that he did not allow this to
:27:44. > :27:47.happen. He apologised in a very vocal hustings on Monday evening.
:27:48. > :27:54.Lots of heckling from those in the audience accusing him of lying and
:27:55. > :28:01.cheating on him apologising and saying he was holding an
:28:02. > :28:07.investigation. As for a result, sometime between two and four the
:28:08. > :28:16.morning. Let's go to Sharni Layton in Denbigh -- Sharni Layton in
:28:17. > :28:21.Denbigh. Welcome to the Vale of Clwyd cap. There is a buzz here
:28:22. > :28:25.because two years ago, this constituency changed colour from red
:28:26. > :28:29.to blue after a surprise win for James Davis. Labour are hoping to
:28:30. > :28:39.battle back this evening. They had an MP here for 18 years who lost by
:28:40. > :28:50.a margin of 237 votes so it is a marginal seat. There are other
:28:51. > :28:54.candidates. But Plaid Cymru are not hopeful. So realistically, it is a
:28:55. > :28:59.two horse race this evening. I spoke to James Davies' agent and he was
:29:00. > :29:04.saying they are cautiously optimistic. The Vale of Clwyd AM
:29:05. > :29:12.said they are fairly confident of a better result. The main thing here
:29:13. > :29:20.is the Ukip vote. There is no Ukip candidate this year. In 2015, they
:29:21. > :29:25.won over 4500 votes, so it will be interesting to see where those votes
:29:26. > :29:34.go this year. Every vote will count in Denbigh for the Vale of Clwyd.
:29:35. > :29:41.Let's cross strait to Cardiff. They were last to declare. Are they
:29:42. > :29:47.speeding up? We are prepared for a long night here. Whatever happens,
:29:48. > :29:50.that is generally the case here. There has been a lot of excitement
:29:51. > :29:55.here since the exit poll was announced. It has got people
:29:56. > :30:00.talking. We have the First Minister, Carwyn Jones, who was very popular
:30:01. > :30:06.with the media as soon as he arrived not long after that exit poll.
:30:07. > :30:12.Privately, Labour say they are surprised, but they think they ran a
:30:13. > :30:16.good campaign. The Conservatives are just not believing what the polls
:30:17. > :30:21.say. There are three counted tonight. Cardiff North is held by
:30:22. > :30:26.the Conservatives. That has tended to swing between the Conservatives
:30:27. > :30:30.and Labour. The Conservatives have a 2000 majority, so they would be
:30:31. > :30:36.expecting to keep hold of that. But there has been a very big turnout in
:30:37. > :30:40.the Cardiff North constituency. We don't know what that means yet, but
:30:41. > :30:45.it could mean an interesting result. Cardiff Central is one that the
:30:46. > :30:52.Liberal Democrats had their eyes on. That is held by Labour. The Liberal
:30:53. > :30:56.Democrats don't seem very sure that they are going to get it back. Many
:30:57. > :31:01.of them said they have probably already written it off. So that is
:31:02. > :31:06.not likely to change hands. And Cardiff West, which has won a 6500
:31:07. > :31:11.majority for Labour, should be relatively safe. It is one that the
:31:12. > :31:13.Conservatives were targeting in this election, but it is looking like
:31:14. > :31:18.Labour seem happy at the moment. But it is early days.
:31:19. > :31:25.By the way, the Conservative candidate for Cardiff North has just
:31:26. > :31:29.arrived in the studio, so we will hear from Craig Williams later on.
:31:30. > :31:32.Let's go to Leeds. A crucial battle ground, the North of England.
:31:33. > :31:42.Results beginning to take shape there. Yes. I, welcome to the
:31:43. > :31:45.splendid surroundings of the town hall where we are keeping an eye on
:31:46. > :31:52.the key election battle grounds in the North of England. They usually
:31:53. > :31:57.can't be -- usually count them somewhere else, but Elton John is
:31:58. > :32:06.performing there. Morley and Outwood provided the big shock of 2015 when
:32:07. > :32:08.Labour were ousted by the Conservatives. They are hoping they
:32:09. > :32:15.have done enough to regain that seat they are also talking up here about
:32:16. > :32:22.being very hopeful of Labour gaining in the Conservative safe seat of
:32:23. > :32:28.Roswell. I would be quite a scalp. Considerable focus on the Yorkshire
:32:29. > :32:34.and the east, by the Tories, relentlessly focusing on these safe
:32:35. > :32:40.Labour territories during the campaign. Strong support for duty
:32:41. > :32:47.and Brexit. Big questions in terms of the exit poll, they consider it
:32:48. > :32:52.to be early days to draw big conclusions. A sense of shock. One
:32:53. > :32:56.interesting fact is that a Welshman is hoping to defend his seat,
:32:57. > :33:03.Conservative Stuart Andrews from Anglesey, he is defending a majority
:33:04. > :33:06.of 4500 votes, he hasn't arrived yet, but I ever spoken to some of
:33:07. > :33:11.his team and they are not sure whether he has done enough to regain
:33:12. > :33:16.his seat. Some difficult times perhaps facing the Tories here in
:33:17. > :33:21.Leeds. Thank you. Back to him through the night. We went through
:33:22. > :33:25.the first results of the night for Newcastle Central which showed a
:33:26. > :33:27.swing to Labour, the one in Sunderland those shows of the quite
:33:28. > :33:32.different. That was really interesting. We saw that missed it
:33:33. > :33:35.too came in at the same time. We must be quite important which is
:33:36. > :33:38.that it was showing a different swing to the swing identified in the
:33:39. > :33:49.exit polls. In Sunderland, there was a three and a half percent swing
:33:50. > :33:53.from Conservatives to Labour. -- from Labour to can Conservatives. I
:33:54. > :33:56.will have an impact on the seats that Labour art of any in Wales. The
:33:57. > :34:01.seats that Labour are defending a Bridgend. That is not to say that we
:34:02. > :34:04.will see an exact replica of that, but nevertheless, it does pose some
:34:05. > :34:13.issues for us in considering how they may go. You see the result. 59%
:34:14. > :34:24.for Labour, 34 the Conservatives. -- 30. Look at the change, Ukip
:34:25. > :34:33.collapsing down 16% and as we see there, the Conservatives up 11% and
:34:34. > :34:41.the Labour Party up 4%. Look at the swing, labour to Conservatives,
:34:42. > :34:44.3.5%. Probably, people have been watching us for the past half an
:34:45. > :34:48.hour and a little bit of the narrative has been clearly
:34:49. > :34:52.influenced by the exit poll and it is all talking about Labour progress
:34:53. > :34:59.at the expense of the Conservatives, but, look, look about result there.
:35:00. > :35:06.The tweet from Tom Newton, the political editor and they are
:35:07. > :35:15.convinced the exit poll is wrong. It doesn't add up. The point is there
:35:16. > :35:19.is an awful lot to play for and senior Welsh Conservatives are
:35:20. > :35:25.telling me it is all to play for. Absolutely. The next poll. We can
:35:26. > :35:34.talk about it all night, the real thing will start happening. You will
:35:35. > :35:39.start talking coalitions? Yes. Given what Laura and niqab said, let's add
:35:40. > :35:50.another pinch of salt to the exit poll. -- Nick has said. David
:35:51. > :35:56.Cameron was my Conservatives won much more than the exit polls
:35:57. > :36:01.thought. At the moment, with the current exit poll, it is saying that
:36:02. > :36:06.no party has an overall majority and therefore to get through that door,
:36:07. > :36:11.number ten Downing St, we need to do some number crunching. Rolling out
:36:12. > :36:16.our coalition builder. Let's start with the Conservatives because they
:36:17. > :36:21.are the largest party with 314. Theresa May is 12 seats short of
:36:22. > :36:25.that overall majority. That magic number is 326, you need to pass that
:36:26. > :36:31.for you to get your programme of Government through comfortably. How
:36:32. > :36:35.shall she do that? They could resurrect the Rose Garden coalition,
:36:36. > :36:41.David Cameron and Nick Clegg are best friends. If you combine those,
:36:42. > :36:49.you get 328. It is only just, but it is a majority. But would be little
:36:50. > :36:55.Democrats want to do that? What is the other option? Let's bring in
:36:56. > :36:59.Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour Party. They are 60 short of a majority, so
:37:00. > :37:05.they have got more numbers to add up, let's bring in the SNP. They
:37:06. > :37:09.have got 34 and that brings you a cool 300, they will add the Lib Dems
:37:10. > :37:14.do that, maybe a progressive coalition that we have heard about.
:37:15. > :37:18.The giddy 314. Exactly the same number by the way as we are
:37:19. > :37:23.predicting the Conservatives could win, so that will be neck and neck.
:37:24. > :37:28.If you have got Labour, Lib Dems and SNP, maybe Plaid Cymru would want to
:37:29. > :37:32.get in there. Maybe the Greens would come in saying that that is
:37:33. > :37:37.progressive. You still don't get the majority, you get 318. They would be
:37:38. > :37:42.eight seats short of a majority. It is not easy. We have got the pinch
:37:43. > :37:48.of salt because we do not know what will happen, but this little grey
:37:49. > :37:51.block, it doesn't look all that important or impressive, those 18
:37:52. > :37:54.seats from Northern Ireland. How will those votes go? Want been the
:37:55. > :37:59.MPs are, who will they support according to our exit polls? It
:38:00. > :38:03.could be very interesting finding out who finally makes it the through
:38:04. > :38:10.doors of number ten. It is all to play for. All to play for, yes.
:38:11. > :38:12.Craig Williams has joined us now for the Conservatives. You are seizing
:38:13. > :38:18.on the glimmer of hope that the swing there in our second result has
:38:19. > :38:21.given the Conservatives, Craig. What is your feeling in terms of the exit
:38:22. > :38:26.poll and whether or not it is right, from what you have heard. It is
:38:27. > :38:30.interesting to see that Ukip vote collapse and generate a swing in a
:38:31. > :38:34.seat. It is something we have been looking at throughout this election.
:38:35. > :38:37.The collapse of Ukip translating to the conservative vote and you are
:38:38. > :38:40.already seeing, even though there are only two results and, of course
:38:41. > :38:47.we have got the exit poll we always believe! Two results have already
:38:48. > :38:55.produced two starkly different swings, so with the other 628 to go,
:38:56. > :39:05.for however there are to go. 648. With so many still to come in, it is
:39:06. > :39:09.going to be interesting. What I was reading, there are 9042 are too
:39:10. > :39:18.close to call. Wales looks remarkably good at the moment. Wales
:39:19. > :39:22.looks fascinating. We will see it after midnight, between one and two.
:39:23. > :39:28.Whatever the exit poll, whatever the veracity of the exit poll, you have
:39:29. > :39:32.had a shocker of a campaign. Theresa May is going to be damaged as a
:39:33. > :39:37.result of this. All we are basing this on is the exit poll. It is far
:39:38. > :39:43.too early in the night. Let's see those real results. How you judge a
:39:44. > :39:46.campaign is through the results. You have got the exit poll framing our
:39:47. > :39:52.discussion while we have got my results. We have got to starkly
:39:53. > :39:56.different swings there, let's see how this translates. There are
:39:57. > :40:02.substantial Ukip vote in some of these Labour Conservative marginals
:40:03. > :40:10.and how this interacts and plays out, it isn't be a fascinating
:40:11. > :40:13.night. Calm down, calm down. They were looking at well over a hundred
:40:14. > :40:17.seat majority at the start of this campaign. Anywhere near that exit
:40:18. > :40:21.poll is a disaster for the Tories and Theresa May is fatally damaged
:40:22. > :40:27.as a result. It is interesting that the BBC was like political editor
:40:28. > :40:32.wrote in one senior Conservative start saying that it is anything
:40:33. > :40:39.close to 30 seats means she has to go. Use of scribe to that? -- do you
:40:40. > :40:44.subscribe to that? Are they tired and emotional? You have seen to
:40:45. > :40:48.starkly different swings already. Next poll is not too dissimilar to
:40:49. > :40:54.where we were last time. Last time, we crept into majority Government,
:40:55. > :40:57.but we have got far more seats this time in your uncomfortable zone for
:40:58. > :41:02.predictions, about 94. That is without factoring in what kind of
:41:03. > :41:05.different swings the Ukip swing is going to generate. There are some
:41:06. > :41:09.bizarre seats in the North of England that have huge Ukip votes.
:41:10. > :41:14.If they collapse, you will see some tremendous swings and there will be
:41:15. > :41:18.no universality to it and that will be a starkly different election to
:41:19. > :41:22.what we have seen in recent times. Jenny, we haven't heard from you for
:41:23. > :41:26.a while. We were talking earlier about the squeeze of the smaller
:41:27. > :41:31.parties, whatever the exit poll, whether that turns out to be true.
:41:32. > :41:35.It appears to be the case that smaller parties have been feeding
:41:36. > :41:39.that back to us during the course of the campaign. What is your
:41:40. > :41:44.explanation for that? A return in this election to 2-party politics. I
:41:45. > :41:50.have been talking deeply about white as has been happening. We have had
:41:51. > :41:56.this drift to a multiparty system and we have electors trying to cope
:41:57. > :42:00.with many parties in a system that is designed for just two parties. I
:42:01. > :42:09.can only suggest that it is because the two major parties at this point
:42:10. > :42:14.are offering such stark different pictures. In the past, there has
:42:15. > :42:22.been a mishmash in the middle. There has not been that this time. We have
:42:23. > :42:28.had a extremely strongly socialist manifesto from Jeremy Corbyn and we
:42:29. > :42:36.have had a right-wing, hard Brexit manifesto from the Conservatives. I
:42:37. > :42:39.think it is therefore been the case that people have felt compelled to
:42:40. > :42:46.choose between those two. They have certainly felt that it is a very,
:42:47. > :42:51.very important election. Absolutely fed up with the fact that they had
:42:52. > :42:55.to vote again, didn't understand why, but they did understand that
:42:56. > :43:00.this was a big issue. I want to go back to something that was said a
:43:01. > :43:04.while ago which was the phrase the will of the people. Goodness knows
:43:05. > :43:10.what the will of the people is now on the issue of Brexit. One thing is
:43:11. > :43:14.for sure, they didn't want your recipe which was another referendum.
:43:15. > :43:23.Clearly, they were not impressed with that and we have fought in
:43:24. > :43:27.order to get any airtime, any visibility on television debates and
:43:28. > :43:32.things like that. It has been tougher than it was last time round.
:43:33. > :43:37.Remember, last time we were given relatively generous amounts of time
:43:38. > :43:42.to make our case because we were in Government. We had 50 MPs. When you
:43:43. > :43:48.come down to a small number of MPs, your airtime declines and therefore
:43:49. > :43:54.it becomes more difficult to make your case. We have found it a tough
:43:55. > :43:58.election, but we are not down and out, we are definitely still there
:43:59. > :44:05.fighting. If the exit poll is right, we will have made modest gains and
:44:06. > :44:10.we are on, we believe, the road back. I am told new members are
:44:11. > :44:14.continuing to flood into the party this evening. Our party has doubled
:44:15. > :44:20.in size over the past few months and it appears it is increasing this
:44:21. > :44:24.evening, as well. Thank you. We have got plenty to talk about on the
:44:25. > :44:29.sofa, but now it is back to Beth. Thank you. Lots of reaction to this
:44:30. > :44:35.exit poll on twitter. Let's take a look at some of them. We can see
:44:36. > :44:47.Paul Nuttall, leader of Ukip, saying... For what is Gary Lineker
:44:48. > :44:53.is tweeting... It is early days, who knows. Paul Flynn, a veteran MP
:44:54. > :45:03.hoping to hold on in Newport West, he says... All dependent on the
:45:04. > :45:13.Verity and how it all turns out for the exit poll. Jennifer Jones is in
:45:14. > :45:18.the Vale of club organ. Welcome to Barry leisure Centre where I'm sure
:45:19. > :45:22.you can see behind me that the counting is well underway. We heard
:45:23. > :45:30.an announcement that the final ballot box has now arrived, all the
:45:31. > :45:34.votes for the Vale of Glamorgan are in this room. Really, the Vale of
:45:35. > :45:43.Glamorgan is a two horse race between the Tories and Labour. Alex
:45:44. > :45:47.Kearns has been the candidates here since 2010. He increased his
:45:48. > :46:00.majority last time. It is not considered to be one of Wales' most
:46:01. > :46:04.contested seats. They say could be quite some time before he arrives,
:46:05. > :46:08.but he has treated to thank his team and his supporters during this
:46:09. > :46:14.campaign. -- treated. One quick point just finish. The Vale of
:46:15. > :46:18.Glamorgan is a seat which since it came into being has flip-flopped
:46:19. > :46:21.between Labour and the Conservatives. They like to back a
:46:22. > :46:25.winner here in the Vale of Glamorgan, so they have always
:46:26. > :46:29.elected MPs from the party who has gone on to win election and form a
:46:30. > :46:34.Government in Westminster. We should hear the outcome at around four
:46:35. > :46:46.o'clock this morning. Back to Jennifer then.
:46:47. > :46:53.Here at the Selwyn Samuel centre, which normally is a venue for indoor
:46:54. > :47:03.bowls, but they have covered the green carpets up tonight as the
:47:04. > :47:08.counting continues. Two results. Llanelli have only had four MPs for
:47:09. > :47:12.Labour since 1922 including Nia Griffith, the Shadow Defence
:47:13. > :47:17.Secretary, who has been the MP since 2005. In the Assembly elections,
:47:18. > :47:20.this seat has changed hands at every election since 1999. It's been like
:47:21. > :47:26.a game of tennis between Labour and Plaid Cymru. That shows that there
:47:27. > :47:34.is of course support for Plaid Cymru in this part of Wales. There is also
:47:35. > :47:44.a result for Carmarthen -- Caernarfon. The MP here told me
:47:45. > :47:47.earlier that they were surprised to discover there were 3000 late
:47:48. > :47:52.registrations to vote in this rural constituency. So the question is,
:47:53. > :47:57.where will those votes go? It is a very efficient counting machine
:47:58. > :48:08.here. They expect the first result at 1:15 a.m.. Let's head east and go
:48:09. > :48:17.to the two Newports. How is the time there? We are told to expect the
:48:18. > :48:20.results around 3.30, four o'clock. I am at the Wales national velodrome
:48:21. > :48:24.centre. They have moved the cyclists out of the way for the counters.
:48:25. > :48:28.They are going through the ballot papers at the moment. I have been
:48:29. > :48:34.told these seats are too close to call. Newport East, Labour have held
:48:35. > :48:38.since 2005. Jessica Morden has been the MP there. The Conservative
:48:39. > :48:43.candidate will be hoping to take that seat this evening. In Newport
:48:44. > :48:49.West, Paul Flynn has held that seat since 1987. At the last election,
:48:50. > :48:53.which had a majority of 3500. Angela Jones Evans is keen to take that
:48:54. > :48:57.seat from him. It has also been a Conservative target seat. Theresa
:48:58. > :49:01.May visited the constituency within a week of announcing the election,
:49:02. > :49:07.but it is too close to call at the moment. We will let you know at
:49:08. > :49:13.3.30-4 a.m.. Any news in the meantime, you will be first to know.
:49:14. > :49:24.In Sunderland, they would make use of those bikes! Less talk to Labour
:49:25. > :49:28.candidate Albert Owen. Do you think you are heading back to Westminster?
:49:29. > :49:32.It has been a positive campaign and early indications are that it has
:49:33. > :49:37.been a positive result for Labour, but it is too early to tell. I am
:49:38. > :49:41.hoping I can be returned, because we have engaged with young people. We
:49:42. > :49:48.have talked about the issues and Mrs May has, in the words of Gary
:49:49. > :49:52.Lineker, scored an own goal. Throughout the campaign, lots of MPs
:49:53. > :49:56.were hesitant about Jeremy Corbyn and about backing him. If this exit
:49:57. > :50:02.poll turns out to be right, you will be congratulating him. We have all
:50:03. > :50:10.worked as a team. This has been a team effort. Wales has been
:50:11. > :50:13.different to England in the polls in many ways. Jeremy has won an
:50:14. > :50:22.excellent campaign and Theresa May hasn't. If you do go back to
:50:23. > :50:28.Westminster, how do you think Brexit talks will go and who will be
:50:29. > :50:31.leading them? Let's be honest about this. It was Theresa May who called
:50:32. > :50:35.this election and only talks about Brexit, but it is a general election
:50:36. > :50:38.and people's issues have been raised here and the public have talked
:50:39. > :50:46.about other issues as well. Brexit will be important and there might be
:50:47. > :50:49.a coalition of ideas with Conservatives, Labour, Lib Dems and
:50:50. > :50:53.others coming together for the good of the country. But this general
:50:54. > :50:59.election was not for the good of the country. And on the doorstep, was it
:51:00. > :51:04.all about the exit, or was it about bread-and-butter issues? Bread and
:51:05. > :51:09.butter issues. Brexit was important, but at the end of the day it was
:51:10. > :51:17.about social care, the NHS and all the issues people are concerned
:51:18. > :51:22.about because it impacts on them. Thank you, Albert Owen in on this
:51:23. > :51:28.morn. We are hearing that Plaid Cymru are not confident about
:51:29. > :51:34.wonder. We will come back to that. Let's go to Wrexham now. How is it
:51:35. > :51:39.looking for you in the north-east as the Conservative candidate? It is
:51:40. > :51:44.looking very close. I have only recently arrived after a swift pint
:51:45. > :51:58.down the pub. My team tell me it is looking close. Time will tell. But
:51:59. > :52:04.you were pretty confident and it sounds as if this campaign may have
:52:05. > :52:08.backfired for the Conservatives? I don't know. I have always been
:52:09. > :52:14.confident that I have a chance. That is why I have worked so hard. There
:52:15. > :52:17.are so much I want to do locally. But I have never said it would be
:52:18. > :52:22.easy. At the beginning of this campaign, I said I thought it would
:52:23. > :52:27.get so much closer and it would not be focused on single issues. And
:52:28. > :52:31.that is exactly the campaign that has been fought. It has been an
:52:32. > :52:36.interesting campaign. It has not just been focused on a single issue.
:52:37. > :52:42.It would obviously be extremely disappointing for you as a party if
:52:43. > :52:47.you end up with a smaller... Or fewer MPs. Of course that would be
:52:48. > :52:50.disappointing. I hope that is not what happens. In 2015 when I stood
:52:51. > :52:55.in this seat, I had not speculated on coalitions or anything else. I
:52:56. > :52:58.walked into this building, a camera was shoved in my face and I was
:52:59. > :53:03.asked my views on a coalition and that was the first time I said maybe
:53:04. > :53:05.this or that will happen and I start to speculate. The next thing we
:53:06. > :53:14.knew, there was a Conservative majority. So time will tell. As soon
:53:15. > :53:18.as the results come in, we will know. I was wrong to speculative
:53:19. > :53:25.for. We may end up with a Conservative majority again. -- I
:53:26. > :53:28.was wrong to speculate before. Thank you, Andrew Atkinson. We have
:53:29. > :54:14.another result in, Sunderland Central. Labour holding on.
:54:15. > :54:20.This is a very similar one to the other Sunderland seat. Let's try and
:54:21. > :54:27.extrapolate from that the relevance for us in Wales. I think we are
:54:28. > :54:32.talking about a divide between the big metropolitan cities and
:54:33. > :54:35.elsewhere. We are also talking about issues in the areas which Richard
:54:36. > :54:40.Leave and those which voted Remain, again particularly pertinent in
:54:41. > :54:46.Newport, Bridgend and possibly the Gower seats. We are not seeing any
:54:47. > :54:51.uniformity service. We always said there would be a huge amount of
:54:52. > :54:54.variation. Talking to politicians throughout this campaign, they were
:54:55. > :55:02.all guessing whether you give vote would go, and it seems to have gone
:55:03. > :55:09.in several directions. That's right. People had that feeling of being
:55:10. > :55:13.neglected by other parties. For us in Wales, the north-east of England
:55:14. > :55:16.is interesting because economically, they have had the same kind of
:55:17. > :55:21.industrial transformation and industrial decline. They have been
:55:22. > :55:26.trying to get new industries in. And implement is much higher in the
:55:27. > :55:30.north-east of England and in Wales -- unemployment is much higher. We
:55:31. > :55:35.have managed to create jobs here. But all the same, very similar
:55:36. > :55:40.vulnerabilities and similar turnouts in terms of the Brexit vote. So it
:55:41. > :55:55.is interesting to see where the Ukip vote is going. And it is very
:55:56. > :55:59.relevant for us in Wales. Can we read across to Wales in terms of
:56:00. > :56:06.these votes from the north-east? Well, we are in that sweet spot
:56:07. > :56:12.before midnight where it is nervous. No one wants to spot any particular
:56:13. > :56:20.trends. I think it will be a nervous night for a lot of candidates.
:56:21. > :56:24.Andrew Atkinson is a poster boy for the Conservatives. Many speak of him
:56:25. > :56:33.as the star of Wrexham. He had to go to the pub for a pint. He must have
:56:34. > :56:38.been nervous. As Laura says, it will be constituency by constituency. We
:56:39. > :56:41.will have varying results and it will be difficult to spot the trend
:56:42. > :56:46.is going on, which for the candidates means a nervous night.
:56:47. > :56:53.And turnout will be crucial. We have only got a few so far, but
:56:54. > :56:57.Sunderland Central had 62%. It is going to be up and down. We have
:56:58. > :57:04.only had three results, but turnout in one of the Sunderland seat was
:57:05. > :57:11.five points up. We don't know whether that was due to young people
:57:12. > :57:15.voting. That will be significant. Three quarters of people over 65
:57:16. > :57:18.will almost began to dig out and vote, whereas well under half of
:57:19. > :57:22.younger people the last election bothered to go out. If that changes,
:57:23. > :57:29.that will benefit Labour in certain areas. If it doesn't change, it will
:57:30. > :57:33.benefit the Conservatives. The turnout factor will also probably
:57:34. > :57:44.differ from sick to see it. Nets head back to the sofas and Fliss.
:57:45. > :57:46.Vaughan Gething, in the north-east of England, the Conservative share
:57:47. > :57:55.of the vote has been higher than the exit poll predicted. Does that give
:57:56. > :57:58.you any cause for concern? Even if the exit poll is accurate, we need
:57:59. > :58:05.to recognise that it will be difficult for us. Seven weeks ago,
:58:06. > :58:11.we had an enormous mountain to climb. We will not know until we see
:58:12. > :58:16.more results. But from where we started and what we have done in
:58:17. > :58:22.Wales and the strength or otherwise of the Welsh Labour brand, it is
:58:23. > :58:30.difficult to tell. But I don't think people have voted on just one issue.
:58:31. > :58:36.There are lots of issues, whether it was police or social care or
:58:37. > :58:39.devolved issues. Let's not pretend that in a general election, people
:58:40. > :58:53.put aside their views on those devolved subjects. On that point,
:58:54. > :58:58.all the parties blurred the lines between where power lies in the
:58:59. > :59:02.devolved United Kingdom? I think that is an honest reflection that
:59:03. > :59:09.people choose all sorts of issues when they choose to vote. I remember
:59:10. > :59:18.as a local election candidate, having to deal with issues to do
:59:19. > :59:24.with the Iraq war. Different issues are already in people's mines. Let's
:59:25. > :59:27.not pretend they are not. One thing which changed the campaign was the
:59:28. > :59:32.debate about policing anti-Conservative S' apparent lead
:59:33. > :59:40.on the issue -- the Conservatives' apparent lead on the issue. Lilly
:59:41. > :59:43.20,000 police officers less. That made a real difference to how people
:59:44. > :59:51.felt about the Tories' record on that issue. But when she said that
:59:52. > :59:55.to the police, crime figures were falling. But the police say this
:59:56. > :59:58.will be a problem for the future. There are all those different issues
:59:59. > :00:02.where the Tories started off with apparently huge strength and hasn't
:00:03. > :00:05.ended up that way. At the start the campaign, if you had told the
:00:06. > :00:11.Tories, you will only end up with a majority of 30 or 40, they would
:00:12. > :00:14.said that is a poor result. Whatever happens, Theresa May will certainly
:00:15. > :00:18.be diminished at the end of this campaign. There has been a real
:00:19. > :00:24.element of arrogance and hubris from the Tories which has come crashing
:00:25. > :00:36.down. I am not sure I said much of that. We are friendly at poll at the
:00:37. > :00:48.moment. There is a lot of conjecture -- we are framing it around the exit
:00:49. > :00:52.poll at the moment. But what is clear is that we are having
:00:53. > :00:56.different swings in seats already, and this is early in the night.
:00:57. > :01:00.Let's see what happens to that Ukip vote. I am not giving numbers on it
:01:01. > :01:09.now. What are you hearing on the
:01:10. > :01:14.doorsteps? In your own constituency and your Intel from other seeds,
:01:15. > :01:18.Gower for example. I do hearing anything from Gallup the most
:01:19. > :01:25.marginal seat in the UK? -- I do hearing anything from Gower? We
:01:26. > :01:29.worked really hard. This election has been conflated with loads of
:01:30. > :01:33.different issues. Lots of it devolved, lots of it not devolved.
:01:34. > :01:37.All parties around this table and the media have a little bit of
:01:38. > :01:42.reflection on how to fight these elections and what is honest and
:01:43. > :01:46.what is not. I think we are going to have to look at how we frame these
:01:47. > :01:53.elections in the future, in terms of some of the disingenuous policy
:01:54. > :01:59.discussions about real things that affect a general elections. You saw
:02:00. > :02:03.it in the leaders debates, that was very little to do with who is going
:02:04. > :02:18.to be the next Prime Minister. You put Darren Miller up. We will return
:02:19. > :02:27.to this. Thank you. I think we are going to go to Kyle Roberts, our
:02:28. > :02:33.reporter in Alyn and Deeside. A very crucial part of Wales. Back to the
:02:34. > :02:39.north-east, looks quiet behind you. They are all hiding behind the wall?
:02:40. > :02:44.They are hiding behind the wall. There are two counts being held here
:02:45. > :02:49.today, Alyn and Deeside. One story when this election was called and
:02:50. > :02:59.that is that both of these seeds held by Labour for 25 years in the
:03:00. > :03:05.case of Delyn and Alyn and Deeside, the Conservatives gunning for them.
:03:06. > :03:08.He went to the bookies, you would have do put ?8 on to win ?1 to get
:03:09. > :03:17.the Conservatives to win. Labour this evening, extremely confident.
:03:18. > :03:23.Sources have even come up the stairs to tell us how well we are doing.
:03:24. > :03:27.You have to usually go looking for politicians. On the wall, two big
:03:28. > :03:30.targets for archery practice, I'm not sure if they were the targets
:03:31. > :03:37.put up by the Conservatives for these seeds, but the way the Labour
:03:38. > :03:44.constituents are talking, it is then who are confident. We will be back
:03:45. > :03:50.to you for a result. Let's go back to the Brecon and Radnor sure
:03:51. > :04:00.constituency. They are busy counting behind you. Indeed, welcome to the
:04:01. > :04:07.Royal Welsh Showground here. You can see the Derek of vacation process
:04:08. > :04:13.still ongoing. -- verification. Geographically, it stretches from
:04:14. > :04:18.the upper Swansea Valley all the way up to the border. A little while
:04:19. > :04:23.before those last boxes will arrive. Between half past 12 and one
:04:24. > :04:27.o'clock. Once the verification process is completed, we will start
:04:28. > :04:31.the counting proper. I was listening to Felicity speaking just before you
:04:32. > :04:36.came over to me any interesting topic here at the moment is what has
:04:37. > :04:42.happened to the Ukip vote. Ukip hold around 3000 votes in 2015. It
:04:43. > :04:49.appears in these early days that the vast majority of the Ukip votes that
:04:50. > :04:53.have been cast today have moved towards the Conservatives. That
:04:54. > :04:57.would make you sick figure doesn't -- that would make a significant
:04:58. > :05:11.difference. Chris Davies hoping to hold onto this seat for soppy one in
:05:12. > :05:19.2015 with a 5000 majority, then -- he the local county council wants to
:05:20. > :05:24.grab it back. He has got a tough ask trying to claw back 5000 votes for a
:05:25. > :05:28.start and possibly this Ukip shift, as well. It is going to be a long
:05:29. > :05:31.night here for the Liberal Democrats, if this early prediction
:05:32. > :05:42.is correct. Thank you very much. Let's go to
:05:43. > :05:47.Cardiff and the count there. Were joined by the Assembly Member Julie
:05:48. > :05:51.Morgan. Good evening and thank you for joining us. It is early days but
:05:52. > :05:57.are you expecting a good night for your party? The signs so far are
:05:58. > :06:05.very encouraging. I've been out all day in Cardiff North, travelling
:06:06. > :06:10.round, and there seems to be a real buzz, a real feeling of strong
:06:11. > :06:14.support for Labour. So I am very hopeful. And it has been a very
:06:15. > :06:19.difficult campaign. For you personally with the tragic loss of
:06:20. > :06:27.the former First Minister, Rhodri Morgan. In terms of the campaign,
:06:28. > :06:33.you must both be proud of the Welsh campaign and Jeremy Corbyn's
:06:34. > :06:39.campaign. Well, if the predictions are right, I think Jeremy Corbyn
:06:40. > :06:43.will have succeeded where everybody expected that he might fail. And I
:06:44. > :06:49.think he has done extremely well. Of course, Welsh Labour has continued
:06:50. > :06:56.its strong performance. So I am hopeful that we have got a really
:06:57. > :07:00.good night ahead of us. Jeremy Corbyn does succeed, according to
:07:01. > :07:04.the exit poll in that sort of direction, do you see a coming
:07:05. > :07:10.together of Welsh Labour and Jeremy Corbyn's Labour? Because there has
:07:11. > :07:15.been a divide, hasn't there? Well, I think during the election campaign
:07:16. > :07:18.itself now, we have seen the strength of Jeremy Corbyn, his
:07:19. > :07:23.enthusiasm for campaigning, his ability to draw lots of young people
:07:24. > :07:27.who seem to have voted in large numbers, certainly in Cardiff there
:07:28. > :07:31.were many more young people than I've been used to seeing. So I think
:07:32. > :07:39.we have seen his strengths and his strength along with the strengths of
:07:40. > :07:42.Welsh Labour, we will move together. Thank you for speaking to us
:07:43. > :07:49.tonight, that is the count in Cardiff. Let's go to a real battle
:07:50. > :07:55.ground now. James is picking up information about Plaid Cymru's
:07:56. > :07:59.hopes. I've been talking to Plaid Cymru sources here and even though
:08:00. > :08:03.it is three hours until the declaration, they are conceding the
:08:04. > :08:10.result to Labour and even saying that the incumbent, Chris Bryant,
:08:11. > :08:15.may well increase his 7500 vote majority here. Which would be a
:08:16. > :08:19.remarkable result for him and a bit of a disappointment to say the least
:08:20. > :08:23.for Plaid Cymru, given they were targeting this seat following recent
:08:24. > :08:28.good result in the local elections and also, of course, their leader,
:08:29. > :08:32.Leanne Wood, winning the seat in last year's Assembly elections with
:08:33. > :08:35.a pretty stunning result. What the sources are telling me is at the
:08:36. > :08:41.start of the campaign they were getting good returns from the people
:08:42. > :08:46.of Rhondda, as well as they were four Leanne Wood. After a few
:08:47. > :08:48.opinion polls suggesting a Conservative landslide, those voters
:08:49. > :08:53.started trickling back to Labour over the course of the campaign and,
:08:54. > :08:58.as I said, there may be a situation where Plaid Cymru has fewer votes
:08:59. > :09:01.this time than last time. Which would be very disappointing for them
:09:02. > :09:09.and accentuates that this seems to have been a two horse race, this
:09:10. > :09:13.election. Yeah, absolutely. Basically what is happening here and
:09:14. > :09:20.well could be happening across the rest of the country is that those
:09:21. > :09:22.polls that suggest as a Tory landslide have invigorated
:09:23. > :09:28.traditional Labour supporters who are wavering and thinking of voting
:09:29. > :09:32.for other parties. And it's become a solid anti-Tory plot, coming back to
:09:33. > :09:36.the party and saying to Plaid canvassers, I like your party but I
:09:37. > :09:39.won't vote the because I want to keep the Tories out. This is what is
:09:40. > :09:43.happening here by the looks of it and could well be happening in other
:09:44. > :09:51.seats as well. James suggesting in Rhondda that Plaid Cymru have
:09:52. > :09:58.conceded the seat. I you busy verifying and counting? Yes, they
:09:59. > :10:01.are behind me. We have two constituents here in Haverfordwest.
:10:02. > :10:06.We should have two results for you by the end of the programme. Those
:10:07. > :10:09.two constituencies I was talking about, Preseli Pembrokeshire and
:10:10. > :10:14.Carmarthen where and South Pembrokeshire as well. We are not
:10:15. > :10:20.really expecting any big upset here this evening. Both are safe Tory
:10:21. > :10:28.seats but they were marginals bank in 2010. Thereafter a few nervous
:10:29. > :10:33.faces around the place. Let's start with Pembrokeshire, Preseli
:10:34. > :10:38.Pembrokeshire because it is Stephen Crabb trying to be re-elected,
:10:39. > :10:42.former Work and Pensions Secretary. A Tory leadership candidate as well
:10:43. > :10:50.if you remember this time last year. He has held the seat since 2005 and
:10:51. > :10:55.he had a majority of 5000 votes but a few people telling me that
:10:56. > :10:59.allegations about his personal life, that might still be fresh in the
:11:00. > :11:03.mind of some voters here. I've also been talking to the Labour
:11:04. > :11:08.candidate, Philippa Thompson, who has told me she came into this
:11:09. > :11:12.election hoping, maybe, to hold the Labour vote from last time around
:11:13. > :11:21.but she thinks maybe they will have made some gains. Not enough to win,
:11:22. > :11:24.maybe, but she thinks it might be very, very close. And then we have
:11:25. > :11:31.the Carmarthen West and South Pembrokeshire. It is Simon Hart
:11:32. > :11:35.trying to get elected, he had a 6000 majority last time around, very
:11:36. > :11:40.popular with farmers and the agricultural sector as well. At the
:11:41. > :11:43.moment, we're thinking the Conservatives will hold both of
:11:44. > :11:48.these seats but it might be a bit closer than it has been in recent
:11:49. > :11:53.years. We are expecting an announcement at around 4am, 4:30am.
:11:54. > :11:58.It might be a very long night, Bethan. Before we go to some results
:11:59. > :12:03.which have come from England, let's have a look at the Western Isles. We
:12:04. > :12:09.have pictures of boxes arriving by boat. There they are. They are going
:12:10. > :12:13.back to the mainland. Not quite the speed of Sunderland and Newcastle
:12:14. > :12:21.but quite an effort to gather the boxes there. Here is Islington
:12:22. > :12:26.North, the Monster Raving Loony Party. They are standing in Jeremy
:12:27. > :12:30.Corbyn's constituency. We're not expecting any upset there but they
:12:31. > :12:35.are clearly enjoying themselves in Islington North. Now, we have had a
:12:36. > :12:40.few results in. Let's have a look at Newcastle East. Nick Brown, the
:12:41. > :12:49.former Chief Whip for Labour holding on. A strong colleague of Gordon
:12:50. > :12:50.Brown and he was prominent in the party back then. He spoke on
:12:51. > :12:58.education. Ukip in fourth place. And the Greens
:12:59. > :13:18.last. And the change, up 18% in Newcastle
:13:19. > :13:35.East. The swing in Newcastle East is a big
:13:36. > :13:42.swing from the Conservatives to Labour of 7.2%. Which is not what we
:13:43. > :13:47.have been hearing all night. We never say that swings uniform but if
:13:48. > :13:53.you want to have a look at the swing in the south, there it is, the
:13:54. > :14:24.Conservatives winning in Swindon North.
:14:25. > :14:34.And we look at the swing in Swindon North and it is once again three
:14:35. > :14:42.points % swing to Labour. -- three points 7% swing. There is no uniform
:14:43. > :14:47.swing. We try to caplet how polls will result in seat configurations
:14:48. > :14:52.and we always knew this would be 650 very different campaigns. Having
:14:53. > :14:56.said all of that, of course, there is likely to be some comparative
:14:57. > :15:01.ability in terms of the swings. Bear in mind the seats we've seen so far
:15:02. > :15:05.are seats the parties are defending, broadly safe seats for Conservatives
:15:06. > :15:10.and Labour and straight fights between them, where there isn't a
:15:11. > :15:14.third-party competing, particularly now as Ukip's vote has dissipated.
:15:15. > :15:21.This is in line with what we expected to happen in these areas.
:15:22. > :15:26.You talk about safe seats, we are hearing about Gower, the most
:15:27. > :15:33.marginal seat, Tory sources saying it is too close to call it. Because
:15:34. > :15:40.of the nature of that seat, 27 votes, and incredible ambush two
:15:41. > :15:48.years ago by the Conservatives to take it two years ago, even if it
:15:49. > :15:53.was a night on which the Conservatives were doing better,
:15:54. > :15:59.with that number of potential votes, it is always going to be in play.
:16:00. > :16:04.Particularly in the context of tonight, that really will be
:16:05. > :16:08.incredibly close to call. One reflection, I suppose of the early
:16:09. > :16:12.indications of the strangeness, in a way, and the different dynamics
:16:13. > :16:17.tonight, it is a reflection of a very strange general election
:16:18. > :16:23.campaign, isn't it, with different circumstances and we haven't even
:16:24. > :16:27.talked about the terrorist attacks. It gave it a stop start to feel.
:16:28. > :16:33.Very difficult to get any kind of momentum. In a way, what we've seen
:16:34. > :16:39.already tonight is a reflection of what we've seen over the past seven
:16:40. > :16:42.weeks. More and more, it's coming down to two main parties on how they
:16:43. > :16:47.are behaving, whether they are holding ground and whether the swing
:16:48. > :16:51.is helping them. Once again where the Ukip vote is going to go. I
:16:52. > :16:57.think that is very interesting in terms of that how will show out
:16:58. > :17:01.across Wales and also the different kind of experience over the last
:17:02. > :17:06.year those communities have had. Are they communities that have been more
:17:07. > :17:09.worried about the future or less worried about the future with Brexit
:17:10. > :17:14.on the cards? It will be interesting to see how that plays out as these
:17:15. > :17:19.results come through. We are joined by McCann Tony, good evening. I know
:17:20. > :17:24.there is a long delay on the line so I'll ask you a quick question about
:17:25. > :17:29.Jeremy Corbyn. You are a huge fan and you must be enjoying tonight so
:17:30. > :17:33.far. Sorry, I couldn't hear that last question. You are a huge Jeremy
:17:34. > :17:39.Corbyn fan and you must be enjoying the night so far is. What I am very
:17:40. > :17:42.pleased about is that we are back to politics of passion and something
:17:43. > :17:47.that you actually believe in, that we have had a message of hope, a
:17:48. > :17:51.message of honesty, I think, of talking to people, and that has
:17:52. > :17:55.resounded with people, particularly with the younger generation. I think
:17:56. > :18:03.when the analysis is done, that is what we all want to look at,
:18:04. > :18:05.potentially the hundreds of thousands of young first-time voters
:18:06. > :18:09.who have actually bought into that message and that few of the future.
:18:10. > :18:18.Thank you very much, short and sweet, but thank you for your time.
:18:19. > :18:23.We have pictures from Wrexham. Yes, the Labour candidate arriving, Ian
:18:24. > :18:29.Lucas, and as we are hearing from the north-east, it is difficult to
:18:30. > :18:34.call but it seems the rumours are not so bad for Labour. It is
:18:35. > :18:39.fitting. We have been talking about the north-east of Wales because it
:18:40. > :18:44.has been the battle ground of what we have seen over the last seven
:18:45. > :18:47.weeks. On paper, these are very good target territories... Newcastle
:18:48. > :19:03.North is declaring. Timothy Thomas Marron, UK
:19:04. > :19:18.Independence Party, 1780. Stephen Doughty in all, Labour Party, 26729.
:19:19. > :19:31.Brian David Moore, putting North of England people first, 353. Alison
:19:32. > :19:35.Juliet Wally, 513, Green Party. And Stephen Doughty and all has been
:19:36. > :19:40.duly elected to serve as member for said constituency. -- Stephen
:19:41. > :19:54.Doughty N'daw has been duly elected. Another Labour heartland, let's take
:19:55. > :20:17.a look at that result. The Conservatives in second place.
:20:18. > :20:27.If we go to the change since last time, since 2015 of course. Labour
:20:28. > :20:48.are a small swing from Labour to the
:20:49. > :20:52.Conservatives. Nick. As you say, marginal swing for the
:20:53. > :20:56.Conservatives. But broadly, Labour have done well in Newcastle. It was
:20:57. > :21:01.pretty much the only place in the North East that voted to Remain in
:21:02. > :21:05.their referendum which may have a factor in there. We should see what
:21:06. > :21:13.the other results show in the north-east. Are you confident we can
:21:14. > :21:17.read across to Wales? It is similar, as Sarah was saying, economic Lee?
:21:18. > :21:23.We have to be wary of being confident about anything. It sounds
:21:24. > :21:27.obvious but we have a handful of results in, we have seen an exit
:21:28. > :21:32.poll that might well be close to the truth, but we are in a very fluid
:21:33. > :21:38.political environment. Look at the trends we are seeing, normally a
:21:39. > :21:44.party so inherently divided not be doing so well, but Labour is backing
:21:45. > :21:50.that trend. Young people are going out to vote. Are they backing
:21:51. > :21:56.Corbyn? We can presume that. Much of the polling shows he is most popular
:21:57. > :21:59.among the youngest age groups, so it is so crucial they go to vote if
:22:00. > :22:04.Labour are to be successful. It is too early to say that we can draw
:22:05. > :22:10.any firm conclusions here. One thing Nick mentioned in the north-east,
:22:11. > :22:13.which is critical ground, but wouldn't it be interesting if the
:22:14. > :22:18.Conservatives lost the seat there but one another one. That is what is
:22:19. > :22:22.interesting about this election, they could lose the Vale of Clwyd
:22:23. > :22:27.and cower and pick up seats elsewhere in Wales. We don't know
:22:28. > :22:34.that at the moment. -- and Gower. We have pictures of Clwyd West. Here is
:22:35. > :22:41.the Minister of the Department for exiting the EU, David Jones. There
:22:42. > :22:49.he is. He is represented that area since 2005, and will be hoping to
:22:50. > :22:54.hang on. A tough Brexit supporter. David Jones is one of the real
:22:55. > :22:59.remarkable stories of politics -- Welsh politics at the moment. From
:23:00. > :23:03.the backbenches, plucked in as a senior Brexit negotiator, certainly
:23:04. > :23:08.leading up to this election he was going to be on the top table for the
:23:09. > :23:12.Brexit talks. Presumably, we don't know what will happen after this,
:23:13. > :23:16.but is nothing changes he will be an enormously important and influential
:23:17. > :23:22.figure. For the future of British politics. Not bad for someone who
:23:23. > :23:26.was consigned to the backbenches, and most people thought the days of
:23:27. > :23:34.his major political career were over. Who knows? Did it feel like a
:23:35. > :23:39.Brexit election to use out on the street? It didn't. That is
:23:40. > :23:42.interesting. The politician said at the beginning this is about Brexit.
:23:43. > :23:48.When I spoke to people about the issues behind the decision to vote,
:23:49. > :23:52.it felt much more about how things were affecting the hope for the
:23:53. > :23:55.future, the living standards, the living standards of their families.
:23:56. > :24:01.So actually, when you are talking to people, it was much more about their
:24:02. > :24:04.wages or insecurity or pensions, but as people like you, Lord, have been
:24:05. > :24:05.saying all the way along, the way people voted
:24:06. > :24:20.... What people are telling you when you talk to them about their life
:24:21. > :24:25.wasn't necessarily the kind of rhetoric they were talking. I think
:24:26. > :24:30.the Conservatives made a fatal error in assuming everyone who voted Leave
:24:31. > :24:36.wanted a hard Brexit. You mist the nuances of why and how people voted
:24:37. > :24:42.Leave in the referendum. The fact there was no discussion about the
:24:43. > :24:46.type of Brexit and plan, undermines the main claim by Theresa May that
:24:47. > :24:51.she was the best to negotiate. The main argument was you don't start
:24:52. > :24:56.your hand until you start negotiating. But people want to know
:24:57. > :25:01.about what you are negotiating on full stop the public want more
:25:02. > :25:05.depth. There wasn't in the manifestos about the type of Brexit.
:25:06. > :25:09.My take on this is there was nothing to talk about -- was nothing to talk
:25:10. > :25:15.about. It became clear early on that we weren't going to get much depth
:25:16. > :25:21.in terms of, for example, how were they going to try to get tariff free
:25:22. > :25:32.trade while controlling -- how were the main parties
:25:33. > :25:35.planning to address immigration. Central questions in this, and we
:25:36. > :25:41.knew we weren't going to get very far. Fairly early on. I didn't
:25:42. > :25:45.interview with Alun Cairns, the Welsh Secretary, and asked four
:25:46. > :25:50.times, could the Welsh economy cope with Paris if they were introduced?
:25:51. > :25:56.And a number of times -- cope with tariffs. I could pick on a number of
:25:57. > :26:02.politicians doing the same thing, even on the Labour side. They don't
:26:03. > :26:08.want to go into the details. Is the narrative on Brexit any clearer on
:26:09. > :26:11.the other parties? If you look at the campaign itself, if Labour does
:26:12. > :26:13.as well as it might well do now, this will
:26:14. > :26:23.be a resounding victory for the Labour manifesto, one of the most
:26:24. > :26:26.resounding in modern times. If you dig deeper, I think the contrast
:26:27. > :26:30.between the Labour manifesto and Conservative manifesto is what is
:26:31. > :26:33.persuaded, certainly change the narrative in terms of how people see
:26:34. > :26:39.Labour. At least the Labour Party set out some detail about what
:26:40. > :26:44.economic policy was. What a approach was to an agenda, and austerity.
:26:45. > :26:48.What amazed me for someone who was seeking a mandate for herself, in
:26:49. > :26:53.the case of May, there wasn't any kind of understanding as to what she
:26:54. > :27:01.was standing for, in debt. If the people who felt neglected by the
:27:02. > :27:05.establishment -- in depth. If the people who felt neglected by
:27:06. > :27:09.austerity, which academics and researchers will say, perhaps that
:27:10. > :27:13.narrative from Labour at austerity doesn't work for the future and you
:27:14. > :27:16.need to move away, perhaps touch some of the right buttons for some
:27:17. > :27:25.of them. We talked about David Jones. He joins us now. Good
:27:26. > :27:30.evening. Are you worried about this exit poll or are you unconvinced at
:27:31. > :27:34.this stage? The exit poll could clearly be better, but the results
:27:35. > :27:39.we have seen coming through since then tend to indicate that the poll
:27:40. > :27:45.may well be wrong. I listened to Peter before I came to the account,
:27:46. > :27:49.-- count, he said there could be wild variations and we need to see
:27:50. > :27:55.more results this evening before we can be clear what will happen. Let's
:27:56. > :28:00.talk about Brexit. This was your patch as a minister in the
:28:01. > :28:05.department for leaving the EU, why did we get more manifesto detail
:28:06. > :28:08.about the nature of Brexit under a Theresa May government? I think
:28:09. > :28:14.we've always been clear as to what our negotiating priorities are. I
:28:15. > :28:19.think that to go beyond that, beyond the broad detail, would have been an
:28:20. > :28:23.safe. We need to make sure we keep our cards close to our chest,
:28:24. > :28:31.because negotiations will be starting in two weeks after this
:28:32. > :28:34.election. I think that the details we gave were enough, they prove
:28:35. > :28:38.their general direction of travel without giving away the negotiating
:28:39. > :28:41.card. You want a hard Brexit don't you?
:28:42. > :28:49.No. We have made clear that we want the best possible free-trade
:28:50. > :28:55.agreement with the EU. It has always been our position and that is not a
:28:56. > :28:59.hard Brexit I think, it's the sort of relationship you want to have
:29:00. > :29:02.with other countries around the world. Clearly, we are in an
:29:03. > :29:06.extremely good position to negotiate because at the moment we have
:29:07. > :29:12.perfect alignment with all of the regulations that come from the
:29:13. > :29:16.European Union. Do you see it as a one size fits all Brexit? As the
:29:17. > :29:25.former Secretary of State for Wales, what might be good for London might
:29:26. > :29:32.not be good for Llandudno? I don't think that's right. Well this
:29:33. > :29:36.benefited from structural funding, but we announced a UK Shared
:29:37. > :29:40.Prosperity Fund which would provide funding for areas such as Wales
:29:41. > :29:44.which have benefited to date. We have to remember as well, the
:29:45. > :29:51.financial framework will be coming to an end in the EU soon. There will
:29:52. > :29:59.be no guarantee that the funding will continue, when countries such
:30:00. > :30:02.as Macedonia and Albania seek to be part of the EU. It would be likely
:30:03. > :30:07.that the Wales would not get the level of funding it enjoyed at the
:30:08. > :30:13.moment. Could you guarantee as a minister that Wales would not lose
:30:14. > :30:17.out? Is what I can guarantee is that there will be a UK Shared Prosperity
:30:18. > :30:22.Fund, and Wales, of course, would be entitled to participate in that, the
:30:23. > :30:26.detail is something that will have to be worked out but what I can say
:30:27. > :30:35.is that there would certainly be a UK Shared Prosperity Fund, once we
:30:36. > :30:40.have left the EU. Whereas there with would be no guarantees within the
:30:41. > :30:44.EU. Your former colleague George Osborne has described the exit poll
:30:45. > :30:48.as a catastrophic result if indeed, it is that, for Theresa May. Would
:30:49. > :30:53.he be right if it turns out to be that sort of results? I'm not going
:30:54. > :30:57.to speculate about that at all. As I say, the exit poll has already been
:30:58. > :31:01.shown to be very different from the sort of results that we are seen
:31:02. > :31:05.coming from the North East. At this stage in the evening, to the latter
:31:06. > :31:11.catastrophe for the Prime Minister, is utterly premature and I expect to
:31:12. > :31:18.see the indicative number of seats that we have try saw indicated in
:31:19. > :31:23.the poll to be exceeded. As of course they were in 2015. At this
:31:24. > :31:29.stage, we have to wait and see how things develop. David Jones, thank
:31:30. > :31:38.you for joining us. That's at Ynys Mon and our reporter is Roger. One
:31:39. > :31:43.candidate looked nervous, the other quite smiley. What is your reading?
:31:44. > :31:50.That's certainly the mood music here. The mood music was set by the
:31:51. > :31:54.exit poll, then you start speaking to candidates and party workers and
:31:55. > :32:00.they said that the mood music has been developing over the past few
:32:01. > :32:02.weeks. I was with the Plaid Cymru candidate earlier this week, and he
:32:03. > :32:07.set the tone of this election in Ynys Mon changed the moment the
:32:08. > :32:11.Conservatives released the manifesto. Up until that time, it
:32:12. > :32:16.was about Brexit, suddenly change. Labour have been a keen to talk
:32:17. > :32:21.about just about anything apart from Brexit, and if you look down on the
:32:22. > :32:23.floor behind me, you will see quite comfortable letting Labour faces,
:32:24. > :32:27.one senior Labour source said they think they've hung on here. Plaid
:32:28. > :32:33.Cymru told me that they found it a struggle. The Conservatives said we
:32:34. > :32:38.were welcomed on the doorstep but it may not have paid off. There were
:32:39. > :32:43.3000 new voter registrations here. There has been a suggestion that
:32:44. > :32:47.they made a difference. I was told by one party workers they were in
:32:48. > :32:53.Holyhead to staff in the polling office who told them there were lots
:32:54. > :32:57.of new faces turning up, faces they have not seen at previous election.
:32:58. > :33:06.Eight few things bouncing around. This is Plaid Cymru's they only --
:33:07. > :33:10.top seat, the only messed up by a few hundred votes last time. They
:33:11. > :33:17.drafted in the former MP for Ynys Mon, formerly at AM and Deputy First
:33:18. > :33:21.Minister, in an attempt to shore up support. But they have backfired on
:33:22. > :33:25.them because I've heard from a couple of people saying is Plaid
:33:26. > :33:29.Cymru can't come up with someone young and new, they the worth the
:33:30. > :33:33.vote? The Tory candidate has told me he was up against it, he was drafted
:33:34. > :33:39.in at the last minute to fight the seat. In Anglesey, it is a loyal
:33:40. > :33:46.constituency. You have to go all the way back to 1951, Megan Lloyd
:33:47. > :33:51.George, before Ynys Mon turfed out a sitting member of Parliament. Look
:33:52. > :33:54.at the people behind me on the counting floor, it is more than
:33:55. > :34:08.likely they have held to that tradition. Thank you. Let's cross to
:34:09. > :34:12.Caernarvon, normally a Plaid Cymru stronghold. How's that looking? It's
:34:13. > :34:18.not necessarily going to be that today. This is a very interesting
:34:19. > :34:21.constituency this morning. Both Labour and Plaid Cymru are saying
:34:22. > :34:31.that it is really close here. Plaid Cymru one last time, and are
:34:32. > :34:35.defending a majority of over 3000 votes. That doesn't sound large that
:34:36. > :34:42.it is. It's just over 40,000 eligible voters. We hear 68% of
:34:43. > :34:46.voters have voted, a high turnout. We are hearing from Labour and Plaid
:34:47. > :34:50.Cymru that it is close. Why are saying they think they are ahead on
:34:51. > :35:02.the postal votes that were cast before but today, Labour...
:35:03. > :35:10.We seem to have lost Ellis Roberts in can Arfon. Let's go to our
:35:11. > :35:15.reporter now who will tell us a story about some polls. We know
:35:16. > :35:19.context is all important when looking at election results so we
:35:20. > :35:23.thought we'd give you the ultimate guide to Welsh election polls which
:35:24. > :35:29.is why we've got behind me here the results in Wales over the last 100
:35:30. > :35:34.years. Let's fly through them. Let's start in 1918. This is the last time
:35:35. > :35:39.where a party other than Labour won the most seats in Wales. The Welsh
:35:40. > :35:51.Wizard Lloyd George was in charge. After that, there is a new kid on
:35:52. > :35:53.the political bloc, the Labour Party starts hoovering up constituencies
:35:54. > :35:55.and votes from the other parties until we get to 1945, Clement
:35:56. > :36:04.Attlee. This is the real dominance of Labour, and it grows until we get
:36:05. > :36:10.to numbers -- until we get to 1966. The snap election in 1966, and
:36:11. > :36:15.Labour win 32 out of 36 seats. It doesn't always go their way. There
:36:16. > :36:19.is some ebb and flow with the Conservatives gaining some ground,
:36:20. > :36:27.closing the gap like they did in 1983. A disappointing evening for
:36:28. > :36:33.the Labour Party then. After that election, during the 90s, and
:36:34. > :36:38.Thatcherism, that high point again for Tony Blair winning half the vote
:36:39. > :36:44.in Wales, look what happened to the Conservatives, wiped out in 1997,
:36:45. > :36:47.wiped out in 2001. What happens after that is the Conservatives had
:36:48. > :36:54.to claw their way back into political life until 2015 and they
:36:55. > :36:58.are back on 11 but still a fair bit behind. During the course of this
:36:59. > :37:02.election campaign we have seen an opinion poll right at the beginning
:37:03. > :37:07.suggesting the Conservatives could have overtaken the Labour Party in
:37:08. > :37:12.Wales. That hasn't happened anywhere on my timeline. The last time the
:37:13. > :37:20.Conservatives topped the polls, you'd have to go back to 1859. Only
:37:21. > :37:23.4500 people in the whole of Wales voted in that election. Lord
:37:24. > :37:31.Palmerston won that one for the Whigs. Let's see what could happen
:37:32. > :37:35.tonight. This is the UK after the 2015 general election, a lot of
:37:36. > :37:38.support for the SNP in Scotland, blue in England disguised by the
:37:39. > :37:46.fact those constituencies are very large. What can we see from what the
:37:47. > :37:52.polls have been telling us? Well, we start with the Conservatives on 40%,
:37:53. > :37:57.Labour on 30%. For a year or so after 2015, it is a fairly benign
:37:58. > :38:04.sort of pattern, not much happening. What happens here? This is June 23,
:38:05. > :38:09.the Brexit referendum after which David Cameron resigns, Theresa May
:38:10. > :38:13.takes over. Look what happens to that gap between the Conservatives
:38:14. > :38:18.and Labour for the a few months after the Brexit election, growing
:38:19. > :38:30.and growing until we reach this very high point. Theresa May calls the
:38:31. > :38:33.election. Those opinion polls are too tempting for her to resist. What
:38:34. > :38:35.happens after that is during the campaign the Labour vote is going up
:38:36. > :38:40.and up, the Conservatives going down and down. Pinch of salt but it is
:38:41. > :38:45.interesting. Look how squeezed Ukip are, the Lib Dems on 8% according to
:38:46. > :38:51.the opinion polls. Plaid Cymru doesn't feature here because this is
:38:52. > :38:55.able UK wide poll. Thanks to our colleagues in ITV Wales and Cardiff
:38:56. > :38:59.University, we have a series of polls we have had over the campaign
:39:00. > :39:03.which started with that earthquake of a poll in April saying the
:39:04. > :39:09.Conservatives were 40% which is when we were talking about historic
:39:10. > :39:14.results. As we have moved through this poll it has become a case of
:39:15. > :39:18.May be business as usual coming to the final three polls, the
:39:19. > :39:24.Conservatives about ten points behind Labour. The last poll we have
:39:25. > :39:29.last night puts Labour ahead but look how squeezed those final three
:39:30. > :39:32.parties are. The Lib Dems being squeezed out of things because of
:39:33. > :39:36.the dominance of the two main parties. There were projections
:39:37. > :39:43.after that opinion poll last night which suggested the Vale of Clwyd,
:39:44. > :39:48.the majority 237, and Gower, the tighter seat in the UK, that they
:39:49. > :39:53.would return and could return from the Conservatives back to Labour.
:39:54. > :39:58.There is a note of caution because the exit poll we have seen suggests
:39:59. > :40:03.maybe the Conservatives are doing better than people are thinking in
:40:04. > :40:08.Wales. And, of course, what every candidate will tell you these polls
:40:09. > :40:12.mean nothing, the only polls that count closed at 10pm and we will
:40:13. > :40:24.wait for the results to come in. I thought that would be some food for
:40:25. > :40:32.thought for you. My guests have been refreshed. You've got staying power,
:40:33. > :40:36.Jenny. I have a completely new panel. Adam Price for Plaid Cymru,
:40:37. > :40:43.Anthony pickles, former chief of staff for the Welsh Conservatives.
:40:44. > :40:47.What sense have you had pounding the pavement over the last couple of
:40:48. > :40:51.days in some of these key seats about the way things are going? Can
:40:52. > :40:56.I say how pleased I am Christine Hamilton is no longer on this panel.
:40:57. > :41:02.It shows dreadful editorial judgment by the BBC to invite her on a panel.
:41:03. > :41:07.She doesn't represent anything. If you're going to invite her again,
:41:08. > :41:10.you need to invite all of us to invite our partners as well. She
:41:11. > :41:16.wasn't invited as the partner of Neal Hamilton, she was invited
:41:17. > :41:24.because she works for the party. You had two Ukip people. Anthony isn't
:41:25. > :41:28.elected either. Later in the night we will have no Ukip people at all.
:41:29. > :41:32.It will balance out but we respect your opinion and thank you very much
:41:33. > :41:39.for your comments on that. In terms of how things have been shaping up,
:41:40. > :41:41.what sense you get of pounding the pavements in key constituencies,
:41:42. > :41:47.what I will thought? There has been a shift in the course of the
:41:48. > :41:50.campaign. A lot of people I'm sure about labour at the beginning of the
:41:51. > :41:55.campaign but a definite shift after the manifesto came out. That was a
:41:56. > :42:00.real changing point for the election. The very poor performance
:42:01. > :42:04.by Theresa May. What has been interesting is also the number of
:42:05. > :42:09.people registering to vote very late. I think that has been very
:42:10. > :42:12.interesting. And we have seen something like a 12% increase
:42:13. > :42:17.according to the exit poll in terms of young people voting. That could
:42:18. > :42:25.be interesting in terms of our expectations. Certainly today I have
:42:26. > :42:31.been in Gower and they were feeling fairly bouncy in the Labour Party.
:42:32. > :42:36.Obviously, very difficult to say what is going on but they seemed
:42:37. > :42:40.fairly happy. Cardiff North, interesting earlier on in the week
:42:41. > :42:46.as well so I think it'll be very interesting to see how those two go.
:42:47. > :42:50.When you saw the exit poll tonight, it is just a poll and it is early
:42:51. > :42:55.days but what was your reaction and does Italian anyway with the sense
:42:56. > :42:59.of how you had how things were shaping up? I think these exit polls
:43:00. > :43:04.have been all over the place and none of us knew what to believe the
:43:05. > :43:09.whole way through. That exit poll is probably better than what we
:43:10. > :43:14.expected, certainly, so we have yet to see. Some of the results that
:43:15. > :43:18.have come in actually swing more to the Tories than you'd expect from
:43:19. > :43:23.those exit polls. It is early days but if you consider where we were at
:43:24. > :43:26.at the beginning of this process, people predicting we were going to
:43:27. > :43:31.lose ten seats in Wales, that doesn't look likely now. Anthony
:43:32. > :43:35.pickles, in terms of the way things look to be shaping up for the
:43:36. > :43:41.Conservatives, what is your thinking of that? It is far too early to tell
:43:42. > :43:46.from this exit poll. There is an irony the exit poll is identical bar
:43:47. > :43:51.one seat to what we saw in 2015. What I'd say is different this time
:43:52. > :43:56.is the level the party had to jump up from between 2010 and 2015 is not
:43:57. > :44:01.as great this time. The other thing we can read into it is that about
:44:02. > :44:06.100 of the seats in the exit poll, most of them are far too close to
:44:07. > :44:11.call. I've had text tonight from candidates accounts genuinely not
:44:12. > :44:16.knowing. It is going to be a long night. It will be a fascinating
:44:17. > :44:21.night. The question is to what extent is Theresa May already
:44:22. > :44:27.damaged goods now, after what has been a poor campaign for the
:44:28. > :44:31.Conservatives. The first party leader in living memory to do a
:44:32. > :44:35.U-turn on a manifesto promise while the campaign is still under way, the
:44:36. > :44:40.refusal to join a debate with Jeremy Corbyn. She has looked brittle,
:44:41. > :44:44.hasn't she? I don't accept the premise of the question. You say it
:44:45. > :44:49.is a U-turn, it was a clarification on a policy... You had a cap two
:44:50. > :44:55.years ago, then you didn't, then she turned around and said there is a
:44:56. > :44:59.cap. It was a bump in the road, you talk about the TV debates, the
:45:00. > :45:06.viewing figures were halved on 2015. Did they have the impact and sway
:45:07. > :45:09.votes? I think not. They were of interest to the broadcasters and
:45:10. > :45:14.journalists, probably. The period of the campaign, seven weeks long, the
:45:15. > :45:20.first three weeks were dominated by other elections, the local
:45:21. > :45:24.elections, a few by-elections. And then, obviously, we have had awful
:45:25. > :45:28.terrorist attacks in Manchester and London. It has been a very bumpy
:45:29. > :45:33.campaign and I don't think anyone comes out of it thinking they've had
:45:34. > :45:36.a great campaign or it has been the strategy they set out in the
:45:37. > :45:43.beginning. I don't think any of us would say that is the campaign. It
:45:44. > :45:48.has been a disjointed campaign, even more so in Wales because of the sad
:45:49. > :45:54.loss of Rhodri Morgan and the pause in campaigning for his memory, too.
:45:55. > :45:58.In terms of how things are is shaping up for Plaid, we are hearing
:45:59. > :46:06.some pretty gloomy predictions from a lot of your targets. I think it is
:46:07. > :46:15.clear our vote is being squeezed. And, to some extent, and the real
:46:16. > :46:21.election begins to emerge during the night, we will see what happens. To
:46:22. > :46:26.what extent the various versions of the Progressive Alliance and
:46:27. > :46:33.tactical voting, with five or six online sites, to what extent has
:46:34. > :46:37.that been part of the mix, in terms of generating higher levels of youth
:46:38. > :46:43.participation and tending to help the Labour Party. It is a unique
:46:44. > :46:55.collection, with resuspensions in Wales. And a range of points. You
:46:56. > :47:01.would expect those two atrocities to be the inflection points. If the
:47:02. > :47:05.exit poll is right, it seems to be it was the Conservative manifesto
:47:06. > :47:09.that was the turn. And I certainly noticed at the beginning of the
:47:10. > :47:16.campaign the Labour vote was soft, and I am an eternal optimist, but I
:47:17. > :47:20.think we were generally attracting the Labour votes. They were
:47:21. > :47:24.sceptical about Jeremy Corbyn at the beginning of the campaign but at the
:47:25. > :47:29.end of the campaign, as I think we will begin to see in the Labour
:47:30. > :47:37.seats, that vote went back home to Labour. If the exit poll is correct,
:47:38. > :47:40.I feel conflicted because it may be that Plaid may be stuck on three
:47:41. > :47:49.seats but they will be more influential than since the 1970s
:47:50. > :47:53.when it was a hung parliament last. We will talk about that and pick up
:47:54. > :47:59.on that in due course. We will go back to Bethan.
:48:00. > :48:05.We will go straight back up to Scotland and our reporter who I
:48:06. > :48:13.think has got an SNP MSP with him. How is the exit poll going down with
:48:14. > :48:18.the SNP? Let's find out because, as you say, I'm joined by an SNP member
:48:19. > :48:26.from the Scottish Parliament, Ivan McKee. How has the exit poll gone
:48:27. > :48:32.down with your party? You've got to remember the exit poll is designed
:48:33. > :48:36.to gather the whole of the UK. Even with that if you remember the last
:48:37. > :48:46.one, it gave a good indication but we were out by about 10-15 seats. It
:48:47. > :48:50.doesn't have a sample size in Scotland to accurately give a result
:48:51. > :48:54.in Scotland. We think it is under calling how we will perform tonight.
:48:55. > :48:58.We think we will perform better than that but let's wait and see. To
:48:59. > :49:03.remind viewers, the exit polls suggest you are going to lose 22
:49:04. > :49:09.seats. We don't think that is going to get a case. Give me a figure.
:49:10. > :49:14.Everybody will expect some losses because 56 seats last time was a
:49:15. > :49:17.remarkable success. Let's get a figure from you. What would be an
:49:18. > :49:22.acceptable figure this time round? At the end of the day, as long as
:49:23. > :49:27.we've got more than half, that is a win. And we are confident we will
:49:28. > :49:31.win the elections in Scotland. There is going to be a number of seats
:49:32. > :49:36.quite close to call so we will be well into the small hours before we
:49:37. > :49:41.know. How are things looking for you in Glasgow? I think we should be OK
:49:42. > :49:45.here. Certainly, the majority is we've got last time, I don't think
:49:46. > :49:49.we will repeat those again this time, it will be a bit closer but I
:49:50. > :49:54.think from what we've seen so far, we will be holding the seats. Labour
:49:55. > :49:59.are talking up their chances, two or three of these seats but you think
:50:00. > :50:04.you will hold onto the? Yes, I do. In the event of a hung parliament,
:50:05. > :50:11.people will look at the SNP, looking to see if you will do a deal with
:50:12. > :50:15.Labour. Would you? You've got to remember Scotland is a proportional
:50:16. > :50:19.system in our Parliament and it is the norm for parties to cooperate
:50:20. > :50:26.with each other. Firstly, I think Theresa May has shown herself to be
:50:27. > :50:30.completely unfit to lead the UK by the decision she made to call the
:50:31. > :50:34.election, asking for some kind of mandate which she already had. She
:50:35. > :50:36.misjudged that and she has been shown through the course of this
:50:37. > :50:43.campaign to be anything but strong and stable. We will see how the
:50:44. > :50:48.conservatives do. In terms of us working, we will be happy, as the
:50:49. > :50:53.First Minister has said, to work with other Progressive parties on a
:50:54. > :50:57.progressive agenda. A formal coalition is off the table but on a
:50:58. > :51:03.case-by-case basis, we will work with like-minded parties. Jeremy
:51:04. > :51:06.Corbyn's manifesto is in many ways similar to policies already
:51:07. > :51:09.implemented in Scotland by the Scottish government said there are a
:51:10. > :51:15.lot of areas where we will find common ground.
:51:16. > :51:20.To what extent has independence dominated the Scottish campaign?
:51:21. > :51:23.This election isn't about independence, it's about he will run
:51:24. > :51:28.the Westminster UK Government. That is the basis we have been fighting
:51:29. > :51:34.on, strong voice for Scotland, when it comes to the Brexit negotiations
:51:35. > :51:38.and campaigning against austerity. But it's become an independent
:51:39. > :51:42.election? Some party have tried to talk about it, the Tories in
:51:43. > :51:45.particular, because they don't want to talk about their poor record on
:51:46. > :51:51.the UK economy and the chaos they are dragging us into about
:51:52. > :51:57.boxer-macro. The Tories to mask that, pushing us onto independence.
:51:58. > :52:03.But we have a mandate for a second independence referendum. I was
:52:04. > :52:04.elected last year to the part Natalie McVey
:52:05. > :52:16.but it was Margaret Thatcher that said all stop try Scotland has to do
:52:17. > :52:23.is elect half of SNP the bar is much higher and the high bar should be as
:52:24. > :52:27.a referendum. But we are certainly getting half the seats tonight and,
:52:28. > :52:35.hopefully more than half the seats. Thanks for joining us. We hadn't
:52:36. > :52:39.update. We expect to get the first result here in Glasgow around about
:52:40. > :52:46.2:30am, in an hour and a half's time. We will be back with you then.
:52:47. > :52:51.Let's pop into the North East. Let's see if Stephan is there, yes years.
:52:52. > :53:00.He is envied. Some rumours coming about Nick Clegg? -- he is indeed.
:53:01. > :53:03.Welcome back to Leeds, where we are keeping an eye on election battle
:53:04. > :53:07.grounds in the north. Rumours reaching us from Sheffield Hallam,
:53:08. > :53:13.where Nick Clegg, the former Lib Dem leader, is apparently vulnerable. He
:53:14. > :53:21.has seen a Labour third in his seat. We have a clutch of results in the
:53:22. > :53:24.last hour and a half. Horton and Sunderland South, Sunderland
:53:25. > :53:28.Central, Newcastle eat, Newcastle Central, all Labour holds no
:53:29. > :53:32.surprise there, but when you dig down and look at results in more
:53:33. > :53:36.detail, there are some suggestions that the Ukip vote is falling away.
:53:37. > :53:39.Something strange is happening when you look at the swing to the
:53:40. > :53:46.Conservatives, compare that to the exit poll. It looks to be better
:53:47. > :53:51.message for the Conservatives, that will be of comfort to them. Here in
:53:52. > :53:54.Leeds, we are expecting the results of eight constituencies, they are
:53:55. > :54:01.talking up a surge in Labour support. There has apparently then I
:54:02. > :54:07.high labour. They are confident on getting the Morley seat, which was
:54:08. > :54:11.lost by Ed balls in 2015. They'll talking up their chances in a safe
:54:12. > :54:15.Conservative seat, Elmet and Crosswell. And in Pudsey, which is
:54:16. > :54:27.currently Conservatives -- which is currently conservative.
:54:28. > :54:34.At this moment in time, they say they are not sure the incumbent is
:54:35. > :54:38.done enough to keep his seat. All these rumours coming in from
:54:39. > :54:42.Sheffield Hallam and elsewhere. The picture is still developing in the
:54:43. > :54:48.North of England. Thank you, Stephan. Rumours coming in thick and
:54:49. > :54:52.fast on this desk as well. Let me start with a very senior Welsh
:54:53. > :54:59.Conservative source who has put a downbeat assessment in his words, it
:55:00. > :55:03.looks like Gower is gone. And these saying -- he is saying Cardiff North
:55:04. > :55:07.and the Vale of Glamorgan is very tight. But in the context that the
:55:08. > :55:14.Vale of Glamorgan has become a safe seat. It is held by Alun Cairns, the
:55:15. > :55:17.Conservative Welsh Secretary. Even Cardiff North increased their
:55:18. > :55:19.majority. Craig Williams, the Conservative candidate who has been
:55:20. > :55:29.the -- in in the studio this evening. A
:55:30. > :55:33.sense there that, early on, things not going on well for the
:55:34. > :55:38.Conservatives. And a quick word from a Plaid Cymru source indicating that
:55:39. > :55:43.may be in Ynys Mon, they are looking at third place. To echo what Ellis
:55:44. > :55:50.said earlier which was interesting about the
:55:51. > :55:58.... We have results from Darlington. Let's hear that. With the total
:55:59. > :56:10.number of votes giving to each candidate is followed. Kevin Brack,
:56:11. > :56:14.Ukip, 1180. Jennifer Chapman known as Jenny Chapman, Labour, 20600 and
:56:15. > :56:43.81. CHEERING Anne-Marie Curry, Liberal Democrat,
:56:44. > :56:59.1031. Peter Cuthbertson, conservative, 19,000 401. APPLAUSE
:57:00. > :57:03.Matthew Snedker, Green Party, 524. I hereby give public noticed that
:57:04. > :57:08.Jenny Chapman is duly elected as member of Parliament for the
:57:09. > :57:13.Darlington constituency. Labour hanging on in Darlington. Jenny
:57:14. > :57:31.Chapman there, very pleased to have heard that.
:57:32. > :57:54.Ukip had 13% of the share last time, so where has it gone? Will find out.
:57:55. > :58:06.Both the main parties have benefited.
:58:07. > :58:15.A very small swing from Labour to the Conservatives. That is the
:58:16. > :58:21.victor in Darlington. Welcome back. This is the kind of result, again,
:58:22. > :58:25.which will be cheering Labour HQ immensely. This seat was a strong
:58:26. > :58:31.Ukip presents, all of those Ukip voters transferred en masse to
:58:32. > :58:36.Labour. They are clearly picking up some of the Ukip Vokes, but also
:58:37. > :58:43.squeezing the Greens, who are disappearing. They got around 4% in
:58:44. > :58:47.the last general election, they are now down to about one or two
:58:48. > :58:51.percent. The Lib Dems are being squeezed, losing their deposits
:58:52. > :58:54.everywhere. If they haven't got a presence in the seat, they are
:58:55. > :59:00.losing the deposits. This is the kind of territory where Theresa May,
:59:01. > :59:09.this was a gamble. The kind of place she was hoping that she could
:59:10. > :59:19.actually... Based on Leave area. -- a strong leave area. Jeremy Corbyn's
:59:20. > :59:23.view Brexit should happen, and yet, OK, it's a slight swing against
:59:24. > :59:32.Labour. But in 0.2%, they don't care. It's looks like Labour is
:59:33. > :59:38.outperforming the exit poll in Remain areas. It's early days,
:59:39. > :59:44.though. This looks very hopeful in terms of stopping the rot. They
:59:45. > :59:47.don't look as if they're in victory territory, that thing with talking
:59:48. > :59:53.about a majority Labour government, but we are not so far off, it
:59:54. > :59:57.depends what happens in Scotland, but we are not far off minority
:59:58. > :00:05.Labour government territory. I didn't expect to be saying that at
:00:06. > :00:08.the start of the evening! It's 1am! Let's go to Stephen Kinnock who
:00:09. > :00:18.joins us from Aberavon on. Good evening. Pleased so far? Good
:00:19. > :00:23.evening. Absolutely. I think what we have seen is that Theresa May has
:00:24. > :00:30.messed up big time. That is how I would summarise where we are right
:00:31. > :00:35.now. She seems to have acted in a hubristic and arrogant way, called a
:00:36. > :00:37.snap election in order to consolidate her position and has
:00:38. > :00:44.achieved precisely the opposite result. It is great to see that
:00:45. > :00:51.after all of these years of people writing off social democracy in
:00:52. > :00:57.Europe and saying colon writing obituaries of the Labour Party, are
:00:58. > :01:02.getting quite the opposite still early days but it looks like a
:01:03. > :01:09.positive result from that point. It is early days. But would you be the
:01:10. > :01:13.first essayed Corbyn, you were right and you personally have been wrong
:01:14. > :01:20.on that? -- you would be the first to say? We have had seven years of
:01:21. > :01:26.an incompetent Tory government, with no direction or purpose. They fought
:01:27. > :01:31.the worst Conservative campaign in living memory, inept and dismal. It
:01:32. > :01:36.would be great to see us even further ahead in the polls, from the
:01:37. > :01:40.exit poll basis this evening. Perhaps even walking toward a Labour
:01:41. > :01:48.majority government. That is not where we are. Do you back Jeremy
:01:49. > :01:54.Corbyn receiving? Absolutely. -- this evening? We have managed to get
:01:55. > :02:00.young people to come out to vote for us. We are seeing a strong result in
:02:01. > :02:06.areas, we even seem to be taking votes back off Ukip in some areas.
:02:07. > :02:12.The turnout here in Aberavon looks good as well. But as positive.
:02:13. > :02:17.Fundamentally, we need to see a Labour government. We cannot change
:02:18. > :02:21.the lives of the people in this country until we have Labour in
:02:22. > :02:28.government. We will see in terms of the exit poll, in 2015 it was worse
:02:29. > :02:35.for the red stories than it was in the result. -- for the Tories. But
:02:36. > :02:39.Theresa May has with great hubris and arrogance called an election,
:02:40. > :02:44.and it has backfired for her in a big way. It's not a great line so we
:02:45. > :02:47.will leave it there. Thank you for your time this evening, Stephen
:02:48. > :02:51.Kinnock. Hopefully we will speak to you later on when you have your
:02:52. > :02:57.result. Yankee. Let's have a reaction to Stephen Kinnock?
:02:58. > :03:04.It's fascinating, the response from Stephen Kinnock. We have had a
:03:05. > :03:08.triple layer of Labour campaign. Jeremy Corbyn and then Carwyn Jones,
:03:09. > :03:13.and that these arts critics sitting underneath. Stephen Kinnock, Owen
:03:14. > :03:22.Smith, Stephen Doughty. Some unlike Stephen Kinnock, I have been to a
:03:23. > :03:25.presentation he gave, talking about the language of Corbyn, social
:03:26. > :03:31.justice, people didn't relate to it and how he was in touch. How does
:03:32. > :03:36.someone like that respond now if we see some of this continue? Isn't it
:03:37. > :03:40.fascinating, we don't know the full picture yet but what does it mean?
:03:41. > :03:44.April remains the left has control of the Labour Party for the
:03:45. > :03:50.foreseeable future all. And hardening up around Corbyn, and a
:03:51. > :03:55.team around him. And Momentum? Yes. Let's look at the results, I don't
:03:56. > :04:00.know what it could be put down to a Welsh Labour campaign. What we saw
:04:01. > :04:05.in the last two weeks of the -- after the Tory manifesto shambles
:04:06. > :04:09.was a heartening of Corbyn's reputation and appeal. I think it
:04:10. > :04:13.will play out in Wales as in the UK. Thank you. We are going back to Ynys
:04:14. > :04:22.Mon to speak to the Plaid Cymru -- speak to the local Plaid Cymru
:04:23. > :04:31.AM. How's that looking for your party. This was a Labour held seat
:04:32. > :04:39.and anyone would be surprise if anyone could take the seat of
:04:40. > :04:43.labour. We can safely say that the MP will remain for Ynys Mon. Across
:04:44. > :04:47.Wales, as well as here, it seems they have been something of an
:04:48. > :04:51.impossible election for Plaid Cymru. Suddenly in the last three weeks.
:04:52. > :04:55.Three weeks ago we were winning here I'm sure, but this morning we had
:04:56. > :05:02.the dramatic Conservative collapse. The Labour Party came on through and
:05:03. > :05:06.between those two, you had an incredible focus on the two parties
:05:07. > :05:11.like we haven't had in Wales for maybe 50 years. And Plaid Cymru has
:05:12. > :05:15.suffered, I think as a result of that. Don't think there's anything
:05:16. > :05:21.we could have done differently, but that's the state of play.
:05:22. > :05:29.So, you haven't won Ynys Mon, how is it looking in Ceredigion and in
:05:30. > :05:34.Arfon, because we are hearing it is quite tight. You tell me! I haven't
:05:35. > :05:39.got a television! Maybe you should get one and have a look at our
:05:40. > :05:50.programme. We will speak to you later on.
:05:51. > :05:55.Let's go back to the panel. Felicity, when you are in a count
:05:56. > :05:57.you don't get the big picture. That's right. That is why all my
:05:58. > :06:01.guests on the sofa have their mobile phones at hand and they are getting
:06:02. > :06:04.bits of Intel from their colleagues and there is social media as well.
:06:05. > :06:10.They are staying in touch even if their colleagues at the counts
:06:11. > :06:18.cannot. We were talking about turnout. Anthony, you are saying it
:06:19. > :06:23.looks about 77.5% in Cardiff North. We have had the turnout in Vale of
:06:24. > :06:28.Glamorgan, over 70%, and Anglesey. We are seeing a trend develop which
:06:29. > :06:34.is the turnout is highest it has been in a long time. Which is
:06:35. > :06:38.encouraging and a high turnout, one assumes, would benefit Labour
:06:39. > :06:41.because it suggests that young people Jeremy Corbyn appears to have
:06:42. > :06:47.energised have been sufficiently energised to get out and vote. I
:06:48. > :06:50.think that is true. What is heartening is that if that increase
:06:51. > :06:55.is suggesting a higher than average turnout amongst young people, that
:06:56. > :07:02.could make a difference tonight. I think we've still got to be... It is
:07:03. > :07:07.very patchy and it looks old. There seem to be some patterns emerging,
:07:08. > :07:12.some relationship with areas that were Brexit and how far the swing
:07:13. > :07:19.has gone. That might be something worth looking out for. What is
:07:20. > :07:24.interesting in this election is that really we have had a battle of ideas
:07:25. > :07:29.as well and we haven't had one as fundamental as this in a very long
:07:30. > :07:33.time and I think for the first time Labour has retreated to where it
:07:34. > :07:39.feels comfortable, usually, amongst a lot of people, in the sense that
:07:40. > :07:43.it is saying, yes, we will go for a redistribution of wealth, that is
:07:44. > :07:46.absolutely right. And the public has responded to that. They've put up
:07:47. > :07:52.with austerity for too long, they've seen the cuts in public services and
:07:53. > :07:59.they are now saying, you know what, the difference between the rich and
:08:00. > :08:03.poor, this has got to stop. If you are right and that has been an
:08:04. > :08:07.electrically successful for Labour, pick up on the point what that means
:08:08. > :08:13.for your party that it will mean the left of the party has cemented
:08:14. > :08:17.controls. What was interesting about this election, there were a lot of
:08:18. > :08:22.people in the party that were nervous about Jeremy Corbyn, not
:08:23. > :08:28.just in the party but on the streets. That manifesto, which was
:08:29. > :08:31.quite detailed, was brave. But it was the manifesto that even Ed
:08:32. > :08:35.Miliband said that is the one I wanted to put before the electorate,
:08:36. > :08:41.that is the one Labour feels comfortable with. What's interesting
:08:42. > :08:45.is Labour is comfortable with that manifesto. Jeremy Corbyn is going to
:08:46. > :08:52.be returned to the House of Commons with a team of which 75% of them
:08:53. > :08:57.tried to oust him. He has a programme now that he has gone to
:08:58. > :09:05.the public with and the public have responded to it. That is what is
:09:06. > :09:10.important. This is about ideas. The personalities, I think that is where
:09:11. > :09:15.the switch came. Theresa May, you tried to pursue some kind of
:09:16. > :09:22.election that was all presidential. Actually, we knew about Jeremy
:09:23. > :09:26.Corbyn. People demonised him. The printed press demonised him. That
:09:27. > :09:29.was all factored in. When it came to the election people couldn't
:09:30. > :09:34.demonise him any more than he had been. They knew what he stood, and
:09:35. > :09:40.they looked at what he was saying and they liked it. And what about
:09:41. > :09:45.Anthony's point about the MPs? This time round, if, indeed, this level
:09:46. > :09:49.of electoral success that appears to be coming through happens, is he
:09:50. > :09:56.going to be received warmly and with great cheers? Will we see a swap
:09:57. > :10:01.over with Jeremy Strong and stable and Theresa May looking to the
:10:02. > :10:04.future and whether or not she can remain leader of the Conservative
:10:05. > :10:11.Party, are we likely to see that? I think there will have to be a degree
:10:12. > :10:15.of better behaviour by some people within the Parliamentary Labour
:10:16. > :10:18.Party. I think they will have to fall in behind him. Whatever
:10:19. > :10:23.happened with Jeremy Corbyn previously, if he proves self to be
:10:24. > :10:28.popular with the electorate, that will be bad judgment on the part of
:10:29. > :10:32.Theresa May, by calling the election when she didn't have to do it. Let's
:10:33. > :10:39.be clear why the election was called. Eluned is talking about the
:10:40. > :10:43.fact it was about personalities but the Labour MPs that rejected Jeremy
:10:44. > :10:48.Corbyn, it was one of those things he was saying. That's not true. They
:10:49. > :10:52.gave him the mandate and allowed him to write the manifesto. They said
:10:53. > :10:58.you will write the manifesto and you stand or fall on that. He stood by
:10:59. > :11:02.it and in that meeting where they debated the manifesto, it was
:11:03. > :11:06.unanimous, everybody supported it. That is a programme for government
:11:07. > :11:11.that people will stand behind. Labour MPs haven't been putting him
:11:12. > :11:17.on their leaflets, not talking about his policies. Let me bring in the
:11:18. > :11:22.other side of the sofa. There is an irony here. I was in Westminster for
:11:23. > :11:30.nine years. Jeremy Corbyn was more often in the lobby with me than with
:11:31. > :11:36.his own party. It is going to be interesting to see. One of the
:11:37. > :11:41.biggest rebels ever in the history of the Parliamentary Labour Party
:11:42. > :11:47.will now have to rule his party in order to sustain his government with
:11:48. > :11:51.a kind of level of iron discipline not even Tony Blair can muster.
:11:52. > :11:56.It'll be interesting to watch how that pans out. Maybe we are entering
:11:57. > :12:00.into a different kind of political context where this sort of
:12:01. > :12:03.presidential approach has been rejected and actually parliament
:12:04. > :12:08.will become a real parliament were actually each MP will have real
:12:09. > :12:13.leveraged. Votes will be close and may well be sometimes the government
:12:14. > :12:20.will lose votes and isn't such a bad thing for democracy. I very much
:12:21. > :12:24.hope parliament will exert itself more and that there will be more
:12:25. > :12:28.meaningful debate, particularly in the House of Commons. Dominated by
:12:29. > :12:34.the two main parties by the looks of it. I regret that it is dominated by
:12:35. > :12:38.the two main parties because I prefer the spread of opinion and I
:12:39. > :12:43.would like my party to have done better. It is the opposite. The
:12:44. > :12:48.small parties are able to leveraged and influence political power out of
:12:49. > :13:00.proportion to their size because their hinges -- they are hinges that
:13:01. > :13:07.Tippett one way or the other. We are looking at 9074 again in terms of
:13:08. > :13:11.Plaid Cymru. At that time, there was a very successful... I have to stop
:13:12. > :13:16.you there because we have a declaration.
:13:17. > :13:26.Let's go straight to Wrexham. No, Llanelli.
:13:27. > :13:32.I, the returning officer, era by giving notice the number of votes
:13:33. > :14:04.recorded for each candidate is as follows. Mari Arthur, 7351. Rory
:14:05. > :14:24.Daniels, 548. Stephen Davies, 9544. Nia Griffith 21,000 568. -- 21,568.
:14:25. > :14:53.Ken Rees 1331. And I hero by declare that Nia
:14:54. > :14:57.Griffith is duly elected member of Parliament for the said
:14:58. > :15:03.constituency. A big win for Labour in Llanelli.
:15:04. > :15:08.Let's go to Wrexham. I do hereby give notice the number of votes
:15:09. > :15:13.recorded for each candidate at the said election is as follows. SPEAKS
:15:14. > :15:23.WELSH. Andrew Atkinson, Welsh Conservative
:15:24. > :15:43.Party, 15,351. Carrie Harper, the party of Wales,
:15:44. > :16:04.1,753. Carole O'Toole, Welsh Liberal
:16:05. > :17:04.Democrats, 865. And I do declare that Ian Lucas is
:17:05. > :17:13.duly elected member of Parliament for the Wrexham constituency.
:17:14. > :17:19.There we are. The Wrexham result. The Conservatives, despite their
:17:20. > :17:27.hopes, failing to take Wrexham. Ian Lucas returning to Westminster. He
:17:28. > :17:34.has represented the seat since 2001, he is a solicitor. And second place,
:17:35. > :17:36.the Conservatives, Plaid Cymru in third, Lib Dems in fourth. If we
:17:37. > :18:02.look at the share of the vote... Nobody standing for Ukip here and
:18:03. > :18:15.that is where the gains have come from. The Conservatives had really
:18:16. > :18:19.targeted this, Nick. I've yet to have a conversation with a Welsh
:18:20. > :18:22.Conservative over the last seven weeks who hadn't floated the
:18:23. > :18:28.possibility of taking Wrexham. It really was a top target seat. And a
:18:29. > :18:34.very big result for Labour there. And Claire Lilley a very big result
:18:35. > :18:40.for Labour. Nia Griffith had been on defence as well, represented the
:18:41. > :18:44.area since 2005, she goes back to Parliament. The Conservative,
:18:45. > :19:02.Stephen Davies in second. That is a big increase on the last
:19:03. > :19:28.majority that she had. The Ukip vote spreading between the
:19:29. > :19:34.Conservatives, who are up 9% and Labour 12%. Plaid Cymru down 5%, a
:19:35. > :19:40.seat which they used to represent. It is a seat which is a perennial
:19:41. > :19:44.Plaid Cymru seat in Westminster elections. It wasn't a key target
:19:45. > :19:48.seat this time, they realise they didn't have a chance but it is a
:19:49. > :19:52.stonking win for the Labour Party but the Wrexham result is the
:19:53. > :19:57.standout. This was a key seat in terms of the exit poll. The exit
:19:58. > :20:00.poll did point to the north-east of Wales as an area specifically where
:20:01. > :20:06.the Tories were hoping to make gains. We see Labour's incredible
:20:07. > :20:11.ability in Wales to defend the ground they need to defend which we
:20:12. > :20:16.have seen and spoken about at the last Assembly election. They are
:20:17. > :20:23.very good at this defensive campaign. Ian Lucas will be
:20:24. > :20:24.absolutely delighted and I don't think the Labour five ago expected
:20:25. > :20:40.that. They would have been very happy with
:20:41. > :20:47.any sort of victory and they have maintained the same sort of
:20:48. > :20:58.majority. Played calmly down inside place. Very much squeezed out by the
:20:59. > :21:09.other two parties. -- Plaid Cymru. We can get one result from Scotland.
:21:10. > :21:24.Rutherglen and Hamilton. Labour gained the SNP. Ged Killen Capturing
:21:25. > :21:37.that for the Labour Party. He Valley percentages. An interesting change
:21:38. > :21:46.from last time. The SNP down 16%. The Conservatives up 12%. This is
:21:47. > :21:53.the first indication that the exit polls suggesting a change in
:21:54. > :22:01.Scotland are correct. In a sense, Labour have come through the middle.
:22:02. > :22:07.The SNP have dropped back. The Conservatives are also doing well.
:22:08. > :22:11.That could be something we see around the country. The Labour Party
:22:12. > :22:20.making jeans, but the Conservative Party increasing the shield of the
:22:21. > :22:34.vote. A lot of new faces there. Kezia Dugdale. Kezia Dugdale is not
:22:35. > :22:39.as charismatic as Nicola Sturgeon or Ruth Davidson, but she is gaining a
:22:40. > :22:44.strong foothold know. If they could gain a couple of seats, it would be
:22:45. > :22:51.a good night for both her and the Party. You are very dubious about
:22:52. > :23:00.the exit poll. With a few results, are you beginning to think it may be
:23:01. > :23:10.quite more accurate? I am still not sure. I am/ still struggling. For
:23:11. > :23:22.the SNP to lose 22 seats. I am not sure. This matters a lot in terms of
:23:23. > :23:31.the possible government formation. If Labour Oprah form, which is not
:23:32. > :23:42.impossible, we are in some sort of minority Party situation. In the
:23:43. > :23:45.latter part of the campaign, Nicola Sturgeon did say she would be
:23:46. > :23:51.interested in some sort of progressive coalition against the
:23:52. > :23:59.Conservative Party. I think they were looking at only dealing on
:24:00. > :24:06.individual issues, that sort of alliance. Going in with not even a
:24:07. > :24:11.coalition lorry minority government, that sort of arrangement, would be
:24:12. > :24:16.very difficult to bring off? It would be hard for them it was a
:24:17. > :24:22.Conservative Party led coalition nor the Labour Party led coalition. I
:24:23. > :24:38.think the results thus far suggest we could be in a hung Parliament
:24:39. > :24:41.situation. This could be some sort of rate winkle at which may frighten
:24:42. > :24:48.off more liberal minded conservatives. It is all very
:24:49. > :24:54.interesting about how this affects the exit negotiations. Would that
:24:55. > :25:01.change things? They will have to start talking. We can go to the Home
:25:02. > :25:15.Secretary 's constituency in his things. Amber Rudd, of course, she
:25:16. > :25:24.took part in the debates that the leader of the Party did not. It is
:25:25. > :25:31.the deputy leader of the Labour Party, Tom Watson. He has been
:25:32. > :25:40.rather critical of the Party leader Jeremy Corbyn. He was telling people
:25:41. > :25:46.not to vote for the Prime Minister, but who really would prefer to be
:25:47. > :25:56.the local MP. There may be changes up there in that Party in the light
:25:57. > :26:05.of some of the results. We are hearing could be a recount. We will
:26:06. > :26:13.hear for the politicians are seeing. Look at the two Welsh results.
:26:14. > :26:23.Wrexham was a key target for the Conservatives. Very disappointing?
:26:24. > :26:35.Really dissing pointing result for Andrew actions. Something of a
:26:36. > :26:39.surprise result. It shows the story. It suspects all the sort of
:26:40. > :26:49.campaigns have not really tallied with people on the ground. There
:26:50. > :26:53.have been very good swings for the Conservative Party in some parts of
:26:54. > :27:00.the country and not so in others. It is very hard to predict. The
:27:01. > :27:09.difficulty of predicting trends is almost because it can sometimes come
:27:10. > :27:14.across as a collection of 650 by-elections. It is interesting to
:27:15. > :27:20.hear home-made Party is performing in different parts of the country.
:27:21. > :27:30.Number of issues. The exit is clearly the. It should've been a
:27:31. > :27:35.much bigger issue, the exit. -- the exit.
:27:36. > :27:49.There is also student areas or inner city areas, where you have a lot of
:27:50. > :27:56.young people getting a very different picture. I think we will
:27:57. > :28:02.have to go quite a long way through to need before we get a proper
:28:03. > :28:05.picture of the trains in different parts of the country. I think it is
:28:06. > :28:14.going to look very different from one area to another. We expected to
:28:15. > :28:26.be different in Wales. We can go to the tooting declaration. I hereby
:28:27. > :28:28.give notice that the number of votes given to each candidate are as
:28:29. > :29:10.follows. Labour Party, 34 -- 30 694. Ukip, 330 name.
:29:11. > :29:53.Alexander spook, Liberal Democrats, 3057. Green Party, 845. Conservative
:29:54. > :29:59.Party, 19 -- one 236. . 19236. These mailing will for the Labour Party.
:30:00. > :30:27.She won it in a by-election, after it was vacated by the London mayor.
:30:28. > :30:35.The term note, 75%. The percentages. 60% from the Labour Party, 33% for
:30:36. > :30:45.the Conservatives. The change since the last election, the Labour Party
:30:46. > :30:57.up 12%. Conservatives down 9%. In the 11% swing to the Labour Party
:30:58. > :31:18.from the Conservatives. Professor John Curtis from Strathclyde
:31:19. > :31:27.University seem that Brexit is clearly an important factor. This
:31:28. > :31:34.could be some sort of tactical voting going on. I think there has
:31:35. > :31:42.been suggestions that wondered would be very vulnerable for the Labour
:31:43. > :31:54.Party. Many of the top people within the Labour Party shamble Shadow
:31:55. > :32:03.Cabinet come from London. We can no go to Lord Hain. Happy about how
:32:04. > :32:07.things are going? I think things are looking very good for the Labour
:32:08. > :32:21.Party. I think we could get back this seats that we actually lost in
:32:22. > :32:29.2015. Cardiff North, maybe Gower. It is a big blow to do these are me.
:32:30. > :32:38.She was wanting a big vote and it is clear that she is not going to get
:32:39. > :32:43.that. It is a good mate for the Labour Party here and bad night for
:32:44. > :32:49.the Conservative Party. And a good night for Jeremy Corbyn? He has done
:32:50. > :32:59.very well. He was not regarded as Prime Minister material. He has also
:33:00. > :33:07.been helped by the arrogant and negative campaign conducted by
:33:08. > :33:13.Theresa May. People are worried about the housing opportunities they
:33:14. > :33:21.cannot get, the cups to the health service. Adult services. Jeremy
:33:22. > :33:27.Corbyn offers light, but you and others, cannot quite see that in
:33:28. > :33:33.your own leader? The question for Jeremy Corbyn has always been as he
:33:34. > :33:39.capable of being seen by the electorate has been a possibility
:33:40. > :33:46.for being Prime Minister. To his credit, he has energised the Party.
:33:47. > :33:50.He is a phenomenon in terms of the thousands, tens of thousands of
:33:51. > :33:56.people who have turned up at meetings rate across the United
:33:57. > :34:03.Kingdom. No other politician of any colour in Britain of any Party is
:34:04. > :34:07.able to do that. At that level, he is given expression to a lot of
:34:08. > :34:14.anger about what has been going on in our society. He has spoken
:34:15. > :34:21.clearly and positively about housing and health and elderly provision,
:34:22. > :34:25.getting rid of student debt and creating secure jobs. We are a
:34:26. > :34:32.richer society than ever, so these things should be possible. But
:34:33. > :34:35.people here do see him as Prime Minister material between as people
:34:36. > :34:44.like you did not actually see that. Maybe it is claimed that the Party
:34:45. > :34:48.unites behind him. Do not underestimate the Welsh Labour
:34:49. > :34:55.Party. We have got a strong leader in the shape of Carwyn Jones. There
:34:56. > :35:02.is a real support for the Party here. That is not to be negative
:35:03. > :35:06.about Jeremy Corbyn. I have been very positive about him. But what
:35:07. > :35:11.has to be Provan is that we really are likely to anything up this
:35:12. > :35:21.evening, which is making games when everyone thought we would lose
:35:22. > :35:26.seats. That is to his credit, but we have got a long way to go before we
:35:27. > :35:28.are seen as a Party in power once again and that is what we have to
:35:29. > :35:37.be. Jeremy Corbyn has said whatever the
:35:38. > :35:43.final result we've already changed the face of British politics. We are
:35:44. > :35:47.hearing it is very close in our fun and also in Aberconwy zealots go to
:35:48. > :35:55.come to know and what are you hearing? When I arrived here, I
:35:56. > :35:59.thought it was going to be straightforward, people telling me
:36:00. > :36:05.the Conservative seats boast in -- both in Aberconwy and elsewhere have
:36:06. > :36:12.been quite say. I'll but Labour sources have told us it is very
:36:13. > :36:21.close in Aberconwy. And they could be a possible recount these Labour
:36:22. > :36:26.sources. The Conservatives are walking around looking worried.
:36:27. > :36:33.Included West, it is also closer than anybody had thought. The
:36:34. > :36:42.Conservatives did have a majority of over 6000 last time but it is... We
:36:43. > :36:47.don't know but they think they have done much better in terms of the
:36:48. > :36:54.Labour Party in Clywd West. We thought we'd have some results at
:36:55. > :37:00.3am but now we are not so sure. David Jones, the Conservative
:37:01. > :37:05.candidate is here. Guto Bebb is the Conservative candidate here and he
:37:06. > :37:13.is yet to arrive here. We will be back. Guto Bebb a minister in the
:37:14. > :37:18.Welsh office, potentially in trouble in Aberconwy. What is fascinating so
:37:19. > :37:22.far is some of these seats are not the ones we expected there to a
:37:23. > :37:29.surprise. We don't know if they will be a surprise but they will be very
:37:30. > :37:33.close. Our fun, Aberconwy, Clwyd West, they are not the ones we've
:37:34. > :37:36.been talking about. That is what is coming through already that there
:37:37. > :37:42.are differential swings to Labour in different places. The defence issue
:37:43. > :37:50.will come to play, where Labour has been able to dig deep to hold onto
:37:51. > :37:53.Bridgend and Wrexham. But when it is targeting a seat, there has been a
:37:54. > :37:59.different campaign and that is where I suspect the Welsh factor has come
:38:00. > :38:03.into play more, not the defence one. Always suspect because they are able
:38:04. > :38:08.to squeeze the other parties said they would be applied Cymru vote in
:38:09. > :38:13.Aberconwy, a seat they have held at a devolved level, we haven't seen
:38:14. > :38:20.anything but I bet they get absolutely squeezed. Even if they
:38:21. > :38:25.don't when I've on, coming close is a significant result for Labour.
:38:26. > :38:30.What's been fascinating about the Welsh Labour campaign, not only has
:38:31. > :38:34.the rhetoric been very much standing up for Wales, there has been no
:38:35. > :38:37.space for Plaid Cymru at all in this context where Labour are saying the
:38:38. > :38:43.same things as Plaid Cymru usually says. If you look at Labour's
:38:44. > :38:48.manifesto, this is by far the most devolution friendly manifesto
:38:49. > :38:53.British Labour manifesto ever produce Tom Harrison produced.
:38:54. > :38:58.Creating Welsh legal jurisdiction? We aren't Jeremy Corbyn as Prime
:38:59. > :39:03.Minister territory so we should start taking seriously what is in
:39:04. > :39:09.the Labour manifesto! There are all kinds of things in their around the
:39:10. > :39:14.Welsh government's position, and Brexit negotiations, which are way
:39:15. > :39:19.on the devolutionary spectrum and well into Plaid Cymru territory. So
:39:20. > :39:27.it isn't difficult, when you've got Theresa May playing the union card
:39:28. > :39:32.in a particular way, it is probably quite easy to hoover up Plaid Cymru
:39:33. > :39:36.votes if you are a Labour candidate standing up against Guto Bebb,
:39:37. > :39:39.probably not a tough sell. Tom Watson, deputy leader, has been
:39:40. > :39:47.re-elected. No surprises there. Let's take a look at another result
:39:48. > :39:54.in Scotland. Paisley and then is. Mari black, very member of the SNP
:39:55. > :40:03.and one of the youngest MPs, she has held on. So, no surprises, but the
:40:04. > :40:30.idea of a Labour we surge in her patch not coming to the fore.
:40:31. > :40:38.The Conservatives up by 12%, which fits into the narrative that there
:40:39. > :40:47.isn't a uniform story emerging just yet. These swing is to Labour of
:40:48. > :40:52.3.1%. This is a seat Labour were targeting, where they were hoping to
:40:53. > :40:58.potentially... This is the very young charismatic lady. That is a
:40:59. > :41:03.small swing given what Labour were trying to do in seats like this. She
:41:04. > :41:09.has such a strong personal following, perhaps, Nick? With the
:41:10. > :41:12.small number of Scottish seats we've seen, the Conservatives coming in
:41:13. > :41:18.with big increases every time, double-digit increases, which was
:41:19. > :41:22.very much in line with what the exit poll was. In terms of the
:41:23. > :41:28.speculation. So it looks like that is the direction it is going in
:41:29. > :41:32.Scotland. To pick up on the points, certainly the two results we have
:41:33. > :41:38.had in Wales and all the indications are it is looking very good from a
:41:39. > :41:45.Labour perspective. Professor John Curtice predicting... He is now
:41:46. > :41:57.ruling out a landslide majority. I think we are doing a good job! We
:41:58. > :42:03.had worked that one out, I think. It has not been a predictable election
:42:04. > :42:09.for a while. Stating the obvious, I think. It is looking good for Labour
:42:10. > :42:14.from so many different seats in Wales. Cardiff North, type. Senior
:42:15. > :42:22.Conservative source says it is going to Labour. Aberconwy, going to a
:42:23. > :42:26.recount, Vale of Glamorgan, looking tired. All the intelligence we are
:42:27. > :42:30.getting from a Welsh perspective is heading in one direction. And what I
:42:31. > :42:33.suspect is happening is the Conservatives have been running the
:42:34. > :42:37.wrong campaign so if you look at where Theresa May was visiting,
:42:38. > :42:40.she's been visiting seats to the north of England with stonking big
:42:41. > :42:46.Labour majorities. That has been where they... If it is any
:42:47. > :42:51.indication where they've been putting in effort, it has been big,
:42:52. > :42:55.big ambitious gains. What they haven't been doing is putting
:42:56. > :43:02.resources into places like Cardiff North. It was the key seat in Wales
:43:03. > :43:08.two years ago. Both Labour and the Tories battered each other in that
:43:09. > :43:12.constituency. I think Labour's victory... Sorry, the Conservatives
:43:13. > :43:16.victory was the most impressive result they had two years ago, given
:43:17. > :43:23.how much Labour throughout it. Everybody assumed, Nick and I did,
:43:24. > :43:28.in a very nice cafe in Cardiff North, we don't need to talk about
:43:29. > :43:31.Cardiff North in this election. I was clearly wrong! I think maybe the
:43:32. > :43:39.Conservatives have underestimated what they were facing. So the Vale
:43:40. > :43:42.of Glamorgan... Vale of Clwyd, on cue.
:43:43. > :44:08.SPEAKS WELSH. Being the active returning officer
:44:09. > :44:12.at the election of a member of Parliament for the Vale of Clwyd
:44:13. > :44:24.constituency hereby give notice that the number of votes recorded for
:44:25. > :44:29.each candidate at these to this election was, James Davies, Welsh
:44:30. > :44:37.Conservative Party candidate... SPEAKS WELSH.
:44:38. > :44:56.17,000 44. Chris Ruane, Welsh Labour... SPEAKS
:44:57. > :45:08.WELSH. 19400 and 23.
:45:09. > :45:24.Welsh Liberal Democrats, Gwyn Williams, 666. Plaid Cymru, the
:45:25. > :45:52.party of Wales... 1551. And I hereby declare that the said
:45:53. > :45:56.Chris Ruane is duly elected as member of Parliament for the Vale of
:45:57. > :46:00.Clwyd. Labour take the Vale of Clwyd from
:46:01. > :46:05.the Conservatives, let's go to our reporter.
:46:06. > :46:12.I do hereby give notice the number of votes recorded for each candidate
:46:13. > :46:26.at this said election is as follows. SPEAKS WELSH.
:46:27. > :46:48.The party of Wales, 2203. SPEAKS WELSH.
:46:49. > :47:59.Welsh Liberal Democrats, 731. SPEAKS WELSH.
:48:00. > :48:08.And I do hereby declare that Susan Jones is duly elected as member of
:48:09. > :48:19.Parliament for the Clwyd South constituency.
:48:20. > :48:26.A comfortable victory for Susan Jones, returning for Clwyd South,
:48:27. > :49:00.the MP since 2010. And the party's Welsh spokesperson from 2015-2016.
:49:01. > :49:10.That is a swing of 2.4% from the Conservatives to Labour. Let's go
:49:11. > :49:15.back to that big result, the first seat to change hand in Wales this
:49:16. > :49:32.evening, that of Vale of Clwyd, returning to the hands of Chris
:49:33. > :49:41.Ruane, who represented the seat in the past. The Conservatives, he
:49:42. > :49:46.won't be going back to Parliament, James Davies and the party will be
:49:47. > :49:54.very disappointed if we look at the share of the vote. And it was a real
:49:55. > :50:00.steal for the Conservatives two years ago. He was a GP, coming in on
:50:01. > :50:07.the ticket of criticism of the way Labour had run the NHS but it is a
:50:08. > :50:12.phenomenal result, the comeback kid, Chris Ruane, a man who believes in
:50:13. > :50:16.mindfulness. A big support of that. We have done interviews with him
:50:17. > :50:22.when his days as an MP came to an end. He is back and it is a
:50:23. > :50:27.phenomenal result to come back from a majority of 200 and has got well
:50:28. > :50:54.over 2000. 2500. Have these easily seen of the
:50:55. > :51:00.Conservative challenge. They would far exceed what the Labour Party had
:51:01. > :51:11.hoped to gain. It is setting up to be a very good night. It is a
:51:12. > :51:26.testimony to him. Chris Ruane Did not give up. One big result. Justine
:51:27. > :51:38.Greening has held on to the Putney seat. She may be returning to the
:51:39. > :51:52.Cabinet. Goes back with the majority of just over 1500.
:51:53. > :52:07.Then 10%, despite having a big name. Actually, she has done very well to
:52:08. > :52:20.hold Dornier. A 10% swing away from the Conservative Party. The Vale of
:52:21. > :52:32.Glamorgan. A very wobbly camera. We will leave that at the moment. The
:52:33. > :52:44.List Tim Farron, the leader of the Liberal Democratic Party. No smoking
:52:45. > :52:55.allowed. He has had a bumpy start to his campaign. His personal views and
:52:56. > :53:05.his face. I think in terms of leadership casualties, I think his
:53:06. > :53:19.future may be very much in doubt. I would not underestimate. It was easy
:53:20. > :53:25.to make jokes about his faith. But I think his views have offended a lot
:53:26. > :53:32.of liberal activists. And I think he has phoned leadership difficult. He
:53:33. > :53:39.kept on saying it would be a ratification referendum, a second
:53:40. > :53:46.referendum. I think the view was that they would try and attract
:53:47. > :53:50.Remain voters, but that does not seem to have happened. We have
:53:51. > :54:48.another declaration. Newport East. Nadeem Ahmed, independent, 180.
:54:49. > :55:14.Natasha Asghar, Conservative Party, 12801. Ian Gorman, Ukip, 1180.
:55:15. > :55:39.Jessica Morden, Labour Party, 20,000.
:55:40. > :55:50.20 can I hereby declare that Jessica Morden is the cleared to represent
:55:51. > :56:04.the seat of nuclear -- Newport East. A majority of 8004 Jessica Morden.
:56:05. > :56:15.The NPD for the past 12 years. Originally from sorry.
:56:16. > :56:50.The change since the last election. The Labour Party up 16%. Once again,
:56:51. > :57:07.a collapse in the Ukip fought, down 15%. This was on the outer rages for
:57:08. > :57:22.the Conservatives. If we look at the entire campaign, these seats we are
:57:23. > :57:27.in the mix at the start. Another result. Another Labour Party called
:57:28. > :57:47.for Nick. A quick chat for the benefit of
:57:48. > :57:53.radio listeners who cannot see these beautiful graphics. 58% for the
:57:54. > :58:04.Labour Party. 31% for the Conservatives.
:58:05. > :58:24.To finish off, this has been the most remarkable of campaigns,
:58:25. > :58:34.something of a campaign of two graphs. Up until the point we these
:58:35. > :58:42.terrible mistakes in the manifesto and things seem to shatter around
:58:43. > :58:50.Theresa May, these seats were in the mix, but from that point, things
:58:51. > :58:57.seem to change. The critical factor was the changing credibility from
:58:58. > :59:05.that point was Jeremy Corbyn. Do not underestimate that there was a very
:59:06. > :59:08.strong Welsh Labour Party campaign. But I think these results are a
:59:09. > :59:26.reflection of what is happening in the United Kingdom. This was meant
:59:27. > :59:30.to be Brexit general election. If there is the Conservative led
:59:31. > :59:34.administration, which is still a possibility, one of the things
:59:35. > :59:39.obviously the case was that the Welsh government had the terribly
:59:40. > :59:47.weak negotiating hand. The country had voted for Brexit against the
:59:48. > :59:54.advice of the parliament. If the Conservatives had had a very good
:59:55. > :59:59.night in the country, no one would have listened to one twitch Carwyn
:00:00. > :00:12.Jones would have said. But we live in a position to really credibility
:00:13. > :00:24.Carwyn Jones will be in a much stronger negotiating position.
:00:25. > :00:40.Carmarthen East Dinefwr About to declare.
:00:41. > :00:57.This should be safe territory? I have been hearing that Plaid Cymru
:00:58. > :00:59.may just have wrecked it but the Labour Party are calling for EV Kent
:01:00. > :01:09.in Arfon. Fairy cakes. He is smiling. We will go to Blaneau
:01:10. > :02:08.Gwent. SPEAKS WELSH. Vicki Browning, independent, 666.
:02:09. > :02:16.SPEAKS WELSH. Nigel Copner, played calmly.
:02:17. > :02:44.Dennis May, Ukip,. Nick Smith, Labour Party, 18,000 707. SPEAKS
:02:45. > :03:09.WELSH. 18707. Welsh Liberal Democrats, 295. SPEAKS
:03:10. > :03:12.WELSH. Tracey West, Conservative Party, 4083.
:03:13. > :03:31.The total number of ballot papers rejected was 35. SPEAKS WELSH.
:03:32. > :03:40.The total number of votes represented 63% of the electorate.
:03:41. > :04:00.SPEAKS WELSH. A 2 degrees clear that Nick Smith is
:04:01. > :04:14.represented as the constituency member of Parliament. We can now go
:04:15. > :04:29.to Carmarthen East Dinefwr. SPEAKS WELSH. Every of the returning
:04:30. > :04:43.officer of notice of the following votes for each candidate. David
:04:44. > :05:02.Darkin, 12200 and 98. SPEAKS WELSH. Jonathan headboards, 16127. SPEAKS
:05:03. > :05:15.WELSH. Newell Hambleton, you, 985. SPEAKS WELSH. -- Neil Hamilton.
:05:16. > :05:46.I hereby declare that Jonathan Edwards is duly elected member of
:05:47. > :05:58.Parliament for the said constituency. STUDIO: So Jonathan
:05:59. > :06:10.Edwards returning to Parliament. With 16,127 votes. Labour on 12,219
:06:11. > :06:17.and the Conservatives on 10700 and 78.
:06:18. > :06:46.Turnout was 73%. Let's look at Carmarthen East.
:06:47. > :07:16.To hereby give notice that the number of votes recorded for each
:07:17. > :07:31.candidate at the election is as follows. SPEAKS WELSH.
:07:32. > :08:11.Alun Cairns, Welsh Conservative Party candidate. 25,000 501.
:08:12. > :08:25.Stephen Davis-Barker, when party. 419. -- Green party. David Alston,
:08:26. > :08:56.Pirate Party UK. 127. Jennifer Geroni, Liberal Democrats,
:08:57. > :09:04.1020. Melanie Hunter-Clarke, Ukip Wales, 868. Ian Johnson, Plaid
:09:05. > :09:32.Cymru, party of Wales, 2295. Sharon Lovell, Women's Equality
:09:33. > :09:46.Party, 177. The number of ballot papers rejected is as follows. Did
:09:47. > :09:56.not bear the official Mark: nil. Votes were given for more than one
:09:57. > :10:00.candidate: 14. There was something written or marked on the ballot
:10:01. > :10:23.paper by which the voter could be identified: one. They were unmarked
:10:24. > :10:35.or void for uncertainty: 47. Ballot paper 40 May local government
:10:36. > :10:41.election: one. -- for the May local government election. Total number of
:10:42. > :10:47.ballot papers rejected: 63. I declare that Alun Cairns is duly
:10:48. > :10:51.elected as the member of Parliament for the Vale of Glamorgan
:10:52. > :11:01.constituency. So, the Conservatives keep hold of the Vale of Glamorgan.
:11:02. > :11:05.I hereby give notice that the number of votes recorded the Thames that is
:11:06. > :11:15.as follows... The number of ballot papers rejected
:11:16. > :11:37.was 72. The results of a gander that are
:11:38. > :11:56.Glenda Marie Davis, Ukip, 1235. Chris Elmore, Welsh Labour, 23,000
:11:57. > :12:22.225. Gerald Francis, Welsh Liberal
:12:23. > :12:34.Democrats, 594. Jamie Wallis, Welsh Conservative
:12:35. > :13:13.Party candidate, 9354. I do hereby declare that Chris
:13:14. > :13:20.Elmore is duly elected for the Ogmore constituency. So Labour hold
:13:21. > :13:26.Ogmore. And we can have a look at the share of the vote. There is
:13:27. > :13:31.Chris Elmore, he will be returning to Parliament. He is a former
:13:32. > :13:35.butcher's apprentice and has represented the seat since the
:13:36. > :13:44.by-election in 2016, he had 62% of the vote. That can't be right for
:13:45. > :13:49.Labour. That's not Plaid Cymru running. It's the other way round.
:13:50. > :13:59.That would be a story. -- Plaid Cymru winning. Let's see if this is
:14:00. > :14:03.correct. I know, it's still Plaid Cymru in red. It's the other way
:14:04. > :14:07.round. Maybe we should forget the graphic. They're not quite right.
:14:08. > :14:13.Everything else has been right to night. We had a lot of results in
:14:14. > :14:17.them. Let's look at the Vale of Glamorgan, can can we have a look
:14:18. > :14:21.about? Alun Cairns, Secretary of State for Wales. Great relief for
:14:22. > :14:34.him after a nervous night, perhaps, for him.
:14:35. > :15:14.huge search for Labour. -- surge. It means a swing of conservative to
:15:15. > :15:21.Labour. This is a remain seat, of course. So this is a Remain area.
:15:22. > :15:26.Ukip just disintegrates, as it disintegrated everywhere. But the
:15:27. > :15:30.Conservatives aren't benefiting as the way you would imagine and may
:15:31. > :15:35.would have imagined. I have to say I was more surprised when the Vale of
:15:36. > :15:43.Glamorgan said it could be interesting. It's not cede any of us
:15:44. > :15:50.thought it could close. OK, he's won easily enough, but that is... The
:15:51. > :15:54.odds are slashed. It has applications for the North, doesn't
:15:55. > :16:00.it was not that we've had so many resultant outlet to get through them
:16:01. > :16:40.if we can. Delyn, David Hanson comfortably home.
:16:41. > :16:48.Let's have a quick look at Caerphilly will stop Wayne David,
:16:49. > :17:36.former MEP and MP there. Happy to be going back to Parliament.
:17:37. > :18:34.now, we said it was close in Arfon. And it was. Talk of a recount that
:18:35. > :18:53.they did clinch it. The share is neck and neck. The
:18:54. > :18:59.tightest of the night so far. We are under 100. In that raft of results
:19:00. > :19:03.we've just seen, couple of things to point. First of all, the valley.
:19:04. > :19:16.Back to the old days, the Labour vote. -- the Valleys. This is old
:19:17. > :19:21.school. Delyn is the key in this. A seat which the Conservatives work
:19:22. > :19:25.harder. It was a Ukip target seat back in 2015. They didn't have a
:19:26. > :19:31.candidate this time. If the Conservatives can't take advantage
:19:32. > :19:38.of the Leave vote in Delyn, where can they? Let's go to the Pontypridd
:19:39. > :19:42.town is now. We can speak to the man who wanted the top job, and he
:19:43. > :19:46.challenged Corbyn, Owen Smith. You Outer in Pontypridd, they can occur
:19:47. > :19:58.York Outer how is it going? It's been a good
:19:59. > :20:03.night for Labour, a good night. And a good night for your former rival
:20:04. > :20:08.Jeremy Corbyn, who you did not want to see leading the party? We have to
:20:09. > :20:12.wait and see how it plays out at the end of the evening from the Welsh
:20:13. > :20:16.results, it looks like we're winning seats and that's exactly where we
:20:17. > :20:19.need to be. I think he needs to be congratulating for that and for
:20:20. > :20:24.leading us through an excellent election campaign. What is his
:20:25. > :20:28.magic? That I don't know. If I have that I would bottle it and go a long
:20:29. > :20:34.way. It is not something. He beat me there and grandest and a good job in
:20:35. > :20:40.the election. And in Wales -- beat me fair and square. The Welsh party
:20:41. > :20:45.wanted to distance themselves from Corbyn, is this a victory for Welsh
:20:46. > :20:50.label or has the Corbyn factor played here? Or we didn't Wales is
:20:51. > :20:55.acknowledged that there is Welsh Labour with Carwyn Jones as our
:20:56. > :20:59.leader in Wales, that was a reflection on the doorstep and the
:21:00. > :21:02.way we ran the campaign. But none of that take anything away from the
:21:03. > :21:07.campaign that Corbyn has run. Everybody acknowledges or should
:21:08. > :21:11.acknowledge that he's had a good election campaign, are manifesto was
:21:12. > :21:15.excellent, it was something people responded to incredibly positively
:21:16. > :21:21.in Pontypridd and across the country. It's a great victory for
:21:22. > :21:29.social democratic socialist ideals. And I think he is a congratulate.
:21:30. > :21:43.Do we have any chance of the Labour minority administration? It is too
:21:44. > :21:53.early to say. Healers Jeremy Corbyn. Would you park heaven if you saw him
:21:54. > :22:09.know? I certainly would. He looks very happy. Thank you for joining
:22:10. > :22:19.us. Owen Smith, elected in Pontypridd with a big majority.
:22:20. > :22:27.Will people like this want to be elected into the Shadow Cabinet? It
:22:28. > :22:32.is people who have been distancing themselves from the leadership. Some
:22:33. > :22:39.of them may be reminded of your comments. It was not so long ago
:22:40. > :22:46.some of these MPs were saying they could not imagine a Jeremy Corbyn
:22:47. > :22:50.administration. It may not be on the cards, but it tizzy damped sate
:22:51. > :22:58.closer than it was a couple of months ago. Quite a dramatic change.
:22:59. > :23:05.You cannot gloss over the success. Given the expectations that we
:23:06. > :23:13.started the campaign with, this must be going to Desi huge success when
:23:14. > :23:24.we could even be in a position where we could begin to imagine a minister
:23:25. > :23:31.Jeremy Corbyn. Free Jewish and fees, there was maybe something in it for
:23:32. > :23:38.everyone. People may be just believed. They did not care how it
:23:39. > :23:44.is paid for. That is an argument as to whether you women and election
:23:45. > :23:51.one way or lose it another way. That is a combination. We are just
:23:52. > :24:08.hearing that Angus Robertson, the leader of the SNP in Westminster,
:24:09. > :24:30.has lost his seat. We will go to Rhondda. SPEAKS WELSH.
:24:31. > :25:10.Chris Bryant, Labour Party, SPEAKS WELSH. 12196. Branwen Cennard,
:25:11. > :25:25.played calmly, ring 084. For Junior Crosby,. For Junior Crosby. Liberal
:25:26. > :25:41.Democratic Party, 277. 60 ballot papers were rejected. A declare that
:25:42. > :25:49.Chris Bryant is duly elected to serve the Rhondda constituency. A
:25:50. > :26:06.comfortable win for the Labour Party. Over 20 1000. -- 21000.
:26:07. > :26:17.Branwen Cennard We'll be very disappointed. The leadership will be
:26:18. > :26:54.very disappointed. I wonder if this is a vindication of
:26:55. > :27:03.the decision by Leanne Wood not to stand. I do not think it would've
:27:04. > :27:09.made the blind bit of difference. I suspect it was a sensible decision
:27:10. > :27:19.on her part. I believe the candidates are no onstage in
:27:20. > :27:34.Bridgend. As we were hearing earlier, the
:27:35. > :27:44.Prime Minister came here during the campaign. She came to the country
:27:45. > :27:53.quite a few teams during the campaign. I hereby give notice of
:27:54. > :27:55.the number of votes recorded for each candidate was as follows SPEAKS
:27:56. > :28:27.WELSH. The number of papers rejected was
:28:28. > :28:39.55. The result is Madeleine Moon where, Labour Party, 2111 the sea.
:28:40. > :29:08.-- 2111 three. SPEAKS WELSH. Jonathan Pratt, Liberal Democratic
:29:09. > :29:18.Party. Name 97. Is Bill Robson, independent, 646. Karen Robson,
:29:19. > :29:29.Conservative Party, 17213. SPEAKS WELSH.
:29:30. > :29:58.Alun Williams, Ukip, 721. AT the clear that Madeleine Moon is duly
:29:59. > :30:12.elected for the Bridgend constituency. She has represented
:30:13. > :30:54.the constituency since 2005. Originally from Sunderland.
:30:55. > :31:08.Another result. Please refrain from shouting until we have finished.
:31:09. > :31:16.SPEAKS WELSH. You are welcome to take photographs
:31:17. > :31:57.if you like. I the acting returning officer give
:31:58. > :32:06.notice that the number of forts given was as follows. Gareth Davies,
:32:07. > :32:30.Welsh Conservatives, S Jackson, Liberal Democratic
:32:31. > :32:51.Party,, 479. Party, 15643. James Turner, Ukip,
:32:52. > :34:12.624. SPEAKS WELSH. The number of ballot papers rejected
:34:13. > :34:27.were as follows. SPEAKS WELSH. Voting for more candidates than
:34:28. > :34:31.entitled to, 18. SPEAKS WELSH. Rating a mark by which the voter
:34:32. > :34:42.could be identified, SPEAKS WELSH. Zero. Being unmarked or void. SPEAKS
:34:43. > :35:12.WELSH. Therefore, I give public notice that
:35:13. > :35:21.leuan Wyn Jones has been duly elected for member of Parliament to
:35:22. > :35:35.represent the constituency of Ynys Mon.
:35:36. > :35:56.Election is member of Parliament for the Aberconwy constituency.
:35:57. > :36:03.I, being the acting returning officer do hereby give notice that
:36:04. > :36:18.the number of votes recorded for each candidate is as follows. Guto
:36:19. > :36:42.Bebb, Welsh Conservative Party, 14300 and 37. Wyn Jones, Plaid
:36:43. > :36:58.Cymru, 3170. Sarah Burgess, 941. Emily Owen, Labour, 13,000 702.
:36:59. > :37:06.Therefore, the following candidate is elected, Guto Bebb. So Guto Bebb
:37:07. > :37:14.and the Conservatives stay on in Aberconwy. Let's go to Cardiff
:37:15. > :37:28.Central for the result there. SPEAKS WELSH.
:37:29. > :37:35.By, the undersigned being the acting returning officer, the election of a
:37:36. > :37:41.member of Parliament for the Cardiff Central
:37:42. > :37:59.hereby give notice that the number of votes for each candidate are as
:38:00. > :38:09.follows. Mark Hooper, Plaid Cymru, 999.
:38:10. > :38:34.Eluned Parrott, Liberal Democrats, 5415.
:38:35. > :39:13.Samuel Islam Muhammad, Ukip Wales, 343. -- Sarul-Islam Mohammed.
:39:14. > :39:26.Benjamin Smith, Green Party, 420. Gregory Stafford, Conservative
:39:27. > :40:26.I hereby declare said Jo Stevens is duly elected as member of Parliament
:40:27. > :40:33.for Cardiff Central constituency. Cardiff Central remains Labour.
:40:34. > :40:48.Let's go over to Swansea. SPEAKS WELSH.
:40:49. > :41:15.Geraint Davies, Welsh Labour, 22,000 278.
:41:16. > :41:36.Rhydian Fitter, Plaid Cymru 1529. Brian Johnson, the Socialist party
:41:37. > :41:47.of Great Britain, 92. Craig Lawton, Welsh Conservative Party candidate:
:41:48. > :42:15.11,000 680. Michael O'Carroll, Welsh Liberal
:42:16. > :42:29.Democrats, 1269. Mike Whittle, Wales Green Party, 434.
:42:30. > :42:48.I hereby declare that Geraint Davies has been duly elected. So Geraint
:42:49. > :42:56.Davies re-elected as the MP for Swansea West. He has represented the
:42:57. > :43:00.seat since 2010. He was the MP for another constituency but just
:43:01. > :43:05.confirming once again, it's been a good night for Labour. Pro Remain
:43:06. > :43:18.candidates. We are going somewhere else now. Brecon. The election of
:43:19. > :43:22.the member of Parliament for the Brecon and Radnorshire constituency,
:43:23. > :43:25.do here day try hereby give notice that the number of votes recorded
:43:26. > :43:36.for each candidate is as follows. Chris Davies, Welsh Conservative
:43:37. > :44:06.Party candidate: 20000 and 81. James Gibson-Watt, Welsh Liberal
:44:07. > :45:25.Democrats: 12000 and 43. The total number of ballot papers
:45:26. > :45:34.rejected was 63. SPEAKS WELSH. And I do hereby declare that Chris Davies
:45:35. > :45:42.is duly elected member of Parliament for the said constituency. So, Chris
:45:43. > :45:48.Davies keeping Brecon and Radnorshire for the Conservatives.
:45:49. > :45:52.Let's go to Alyn and Deeside. Election of the member of Parliament
:45:53. > :46:00.for the Alyn and Deeside constituency. I, being the acting
:46:01. > :46:03.returning officer, do hereby give notice that the number of votes
:46:04. > :46:32.recorded for each candidate at the said election is as follows.
:46:33. > :46:48.Jaclyn Amherst, Plaid Cymru, 1171. Welsh Conservative
:46:49. > :47:44.Liberal Democrats, one thousand and 77 votes. The number of ballot
:47:45. > :47:45.papers rejected was as follows. Once Mark throw-in
:47:46. > :47:58.voting for more than one thousand at, 17. -- white candle.
:47:59. > :48:14.BM are marked or void, 63. Total 84. Mark Stanley winning that and
:48:15. > :48:26.clipping it for Labour. -- Mark Tami. He has represented the seat
:48:27. > :48:52.since 2001. Conservatives in second place was
:48:53. > :49:06.Ukip down 15%, our pattern we have really seen this morning.
:49:07. > :49:23.Let's take a look at Gower, a crucial seat. SPEAKS WELSH..
:49:24. > :49:33.I, being the returning officer at the election held on Thursday 8th of
:49:34. > :49:38.June 20 17th do hereby give notice that the number of votes cast for
:49:39. > :49:50.each candidate at the election is as follows. Tonia Antoniazzi, Welsh
:49:51. > :50:52.Labour: 22,000... CHEERING Welsh Conservative Party, 19 four
:50:53. > :51:06.42. -- 19442. Liberal Democratic Party, 951.
:51:07. > :51:31.Ukip, 642. Plaid Cymru, the Party of Wales, 1669.
:51:32. > :52:00.declare that the Labour Party candidate has been duly elected.
:52:01. > :52:15.Taking the seat back for the Party. Taking a break from the
:52:16. > :52:28.Conservatives, who held the seat for two years.
:52:29. > :52:39.This was the most marginal seat in the United Kingdom, with the
:52:40. > :52:53.Conservatives holding up by just 27 votes in 2015.
:52:54. > :53:09.The change in percentages. Labour benefiting from that Ukip drop of
:53:10. > :53:14.10%. We have just have that Nick Clegg has lost his seat, Sheffield
:53:15. > :53:23.Hallam. Losing it to the Labour Party. Former Deputy Prime Minister,
:53:24. > :53:32.part of the coalition with the Conservatives. Exiting the political
:53:33. > :53:40.scene. I wonder what he will be doing next? A big casualty. The
:53:41. > :53:56.pattern, with that flurry of results? A lot to see. A quick
:53:57. > :54:00.victory, the forecast is no reason from the overall number of
:54:01. > :54:11.conservatives from three for four down to three to two. Just crossing
:54:12. > :54:20.the line for a majority. 261 for Labour. Obviously, possibly enough
:54:21. > :54:25.for the Conservative Party to get back into Downing Street, but
:54:26. > :54:34.nothing like the sort of majority they have enjoyed of late. Many
:54:35. > :54:46.people wondering if Theresa May can survive. The Conservative Party are
:54:47. > :54:54.not going to win seats in Wales, contrary to what we expected. They
:54:55. > :55:00.are not going to win the seat certainly needed to turn things
:55:01. > :55:16.round. The popularity of Jeremy Corbyn has been remarkable. This
:55:17. > :55:22.idea to go to the country, it's not looking so good. No one to blame but
:55:23. > :55:36.themselves. Not a good decision. Congratulations for winning in. I
:55:37. > :55:47.gave the team a target of 15,000 and we just get short of that. 14333.
:55:48. > :55:59.Obviously, very relieved, with the majority of just a few hundred. But
:56:00. > :56:07.they never expected such a tight result, so a tizzy disappointing
:56:08. > :56:12.night for the Conservative Party. I am sure you have thoughts about
:56:13. > :56:17.mistakes in the campaign. Maybe a mistake calling the election in the
:56:18. > :56:23.first place? I think it is premature to talk about mistakes. As I said in
:56:24. > :56:32.my acceptance speech, the lessons of the election, lessons need to be
:56:33. > :56:38.went. I do not believe there was a last-minute swing. I think this has
:56:39. > :56:40.been building over the last four or five weeks. The Conservative Party
:56:41. > :56:50.did make mistakes, but there is something more fundamental going on.
:56:51. > :57:01.We can have a look at your leader, TV May arriving at Kent in
:57:02. > :57:08.Maidenhead. -- Theresa May. Looking relaxed. A former adviser to David
:57:09. > :57:16.Cameron and seeing that she may not survive this. Surely there could be
:57:17. > :57:21.questions about her leadership? Those are questions we would need to
:57:22. > :57:28.insert tomorrow once we know what the result is. I think Craig Oliver
:57:29. > :57:34.is trying to sell a book. He has not been much of a success story. It is
:57:35. > :57:43.rather cheeky of him to talk about political feel you're given the way
:57:44. > :57:53.he ran the referendum campaign. Letters look at the negotiations for
:57:54. > :58:06.Brexit. Actually, I am sorry, we are going to have to go to Clwyd West.
:58:07. > :58:33.The number of candidates was as follows. Victor Babu, Labour Party,
:58:34. > :59:00.1971. Conservative Party, 1954 seven Plaid Cymru, 3918. Gareth Thomas,
:59:01. > :59:09.Labour Party, 16 104. The following candidate is elected, David Jones.
:59:10. > :59:32.David Jones, a minister for the exit campaign. He
:59:33. > :59:49.holds onto his seat. Quick look at the percentages.
:59:50. > :00:03.An increase for Labour or 14%. The Conservative Party also up.
:00:04. > :00:16.Vince Cable, just as Nick Clegg leaves the stage, Vince Cable has
:00:17. > :00:24.returned. One leaves and another one comes back. Good morning and
:00:25. > :00:31.congratulations. You must be enjoying this evening. I am indeed,
:00:32. > :00:37.very much thank you. Why is Labour doing so well? Is it down to the
:00:38. > :00:41.Welsh Labour Party or down to Jeremy Corbyn? I think it is down to a
:00:42. > :00:48.number of things. Very good candidates in the country. Also, two
:00:49. > :00:55.fantastic campaigns have been run by the Welsh Labour Party he earned by
:00:56. > :00:58.Jeremy Corbyn and the National Party. We have run a very positive
:00:59. > :01:06.campaign and people have responded to that. Would you be looking at
:01:07. > :01:11.territory where you could of done an alliance with others to prevent a
:01:12. > :01:16.Conservative administration? I do not know what will happen. It is
:01:17. > :01:22.very even early in the evening. We will see what the numbers look like
:01:23. > :01:31.later on but that will be for Jeremy Corbyn to disable of the Shadow
:01:32. > :01:36.Cabinet. Is he no E hero? He has a fantastic man. He is an honest
:01:37. > :01:42.politician. You have seen the term notes from young people that he has
:01:43. > :01:47.connected with. He has them all his political career. But leadership is
:01:48. > :01:51.about individuals and teams and building a strong team is what
:01:52. > :01:55.Jeremy Corbyn has done and will continue to do. He should be
:01:56. > :02:05.congratulated for running a very good campaign. You quit his team. I
:02:06. > :02:10.wonder if perhaps the parliamentary Party rather out of touch. Maybe he
:02:11. > :02:16.is the one who has been in touch. I did not quit the team to do with
:02:17. > :02:23.anything to do with Jeremy Corbyn. I quit on alert in matter of
:02:24. > :02:30.principle, to do with Article 50. It was nothing to do with Jeremy
:02:31. > :02:38.Corbyn. We wanted to get as many Labour MPs elected as possible and I
:02:39. > :02:43.hope as many are coming in and many new candidates will be coming in, as
:02:44. > :02:52.well. Thank you very much. Any more gossip? The point to see is that the
:02:53. > :03:07.Conservative government ministers have largely survived. Majority
:03:08. > :03:16.whittled down. David Jones actually got home reasonably comfortably in
:03:17. > :03:22.the end. His majority did come down. There was a flurry of results. Chris
:03:23. > :03:33.Reid -- Chris Davies. Returning there.
:03:34. > :03:51.I think the machine is getting rather tired, but we are getting
:03:52. > :04:06.there. Where will we go next? Swansea West.
:04:07. > :04:56.Davies Retirement. -- returned. Talking of Swansea West, Swansea
:04:57. > :05:02.East is about to declare. Let's go there.