Part 2

:00:00. > :00:00.Talking of Swansea West, Swansea East is about to declare. Let's go

:00:00. > :00:33.there. I, being the acting returning

:00:34. > :00:39.officer at the election held on Thursday 8th of June 2017, do hereby

:00:40. > :00:53.give notice that the numbers of votes cast for each candidate is as

:00:54. > :01:13.follows. Dan Bouchier, Conservatives, 9139. Chris Evans,

:01:14. > :01:23.Welsh Green Party: 359. Carolyn Harris, Welsh Labour: 22,000...

:01:24. > :01:38.CHEERING Charlie Hastert, Welsh Liberal

:01:39. > :02:02.Democrats. 625. Clifford Johnson, UK

:02:03. > :02:20.Independence Party, Ukip: 1040. Steffan Phillips, Plaid Cymru :

:02:21. > :02:37.1689. I hereby declare that Carolyn Harris has been duly elected.

:02:38. > :02:46.Swansea East, then, is held by Carolyn Harris with 22,000 307. The

:02:47. > :02:51.Conservatives in second place. She has been a Shadow Minister for home

:02:52. > :03:19.affairs in Corbyn's Cabinet since October 2000 16. -- 2016.

:03:20. > :03:32.Let's go back to Ynys Mon. The count is over and you are the AEM but your

:03:33. > :03:39.attempts as a party to have an MPs slipped to third place, you must be

:03:40. > :03:42.disappointed? It's clearly a big disappointment, where a few weeks

:03:43. > :03:47.ago we were realistically looking at taking the seat. But I think in the

:03:48. > :03:51.context of what we have seen being revealed across Wales and the UK

:03:52. > :03:56.this evening, I don't think it should be altogether a huge surprise

:03:57. > :04:01.that we were not able to take a seat of Labour. Our photos stayed similar

:04:02. > :04:08.to last time, but as we were talking -- our voters select try stayed

:04:09. > :04:18.But with Corbyn and may and the Conservatives, it's cost us dearly.

:04:19. > :04:25.Clearly disappointing. A certain sense of inevitability, somehow.

:04:26. > :04:31.What about your message? We are squeezed, it's a boundary try

:04:32. > :04:34.binary... I'm sorry, we have to go to Jeremy Corbyn's declaration in

:04:35. > :04:46.Islington North. We seem to be having sound problems

:04:47. > :04:53.but they hear is, Jeremy Corbyn in the background looking very happy.

:04:54. > :04:59.We don't know if the sound problems in the hall perhaps with in our

:05:00. > :05:04.systems here at the BBC. But Jeremy Corbyn looks extremely jolly. Let's

:05:05. > :05:07.try and get back for his speech, let's go to Cardiff North where

:05:08. > :05:14.there are rumours that has gone to Labour. Seeing as we has no sound in

:05:15. > :05:29.Islington. There's the count in Cardiff North a crucial seat.

:05:30. > :05:36.Anna McMorrin for Labour. A former special adviser. The number of

:05:37. > :05:43.Conservative seats that have survived as we have seen, Craig

:05:44. > :05:48.Williams will be a big scalp and this will be a big seat for Labour

:05:49. > :05:54.to take. Many years, it was the bellwether. I have to say, in the

:05:55. > :05:59.build-up to this campaign, and certainly before the polls squeezed,

:06:00. > :06:02.I think a lot of people thought that this was almost safe Conservative

:06:03. > :06:08.territory. It doesn't seem like that now. We can see them huddled round

:06:09. > :06:13.Anna McMorrin there. And the Minister in the Welsh Government

:06:14. > :06:21.there. Clearly, a lot of huddling going on around Labour. I don't know

:06:22. > :06:26.what you should read up on that. -- into that. A full recount in

:06:27. > :06:29.Ceredigion. Boris Johnson has regained his seat, not a big

:06:30. > :06:35.surprise. We expect Cardiff North soon. All we would expect Cardiff

:06:36. > :06:41.North to go to Labour based on the kind of swings and the kind of

:06:42. > :06:46.pattern we have seen in well so far. Ceredigion, Plaid is not doing well.

:06:47. > :06:53.They could get one of the lowest shares of the national vote yet.

:06:54. > :06:56.That is what happened in 1997, four seats with one of the lowest shares

:06:57. > :07:00.of the national vote. We could do the same here. So that they are in

:07:01. > :07:29.the count, ready in Cardiff North. By, the undersigned, being the

:07:30. > :07:32.acting returning officer at the election of a member of Parliament

:07:33. > :07:38.for those Cardiff North constituency, held on Thursday

:07:39. > :07:42.eighth June 2017, hereby give notice that the number of votes recorded

:07:43. > :08:04.for each candidate in said election are as follows. Matthew Hemsley,

:08:05. > :08:17.Liberal Democrats: 1714. Anna McMorran, Welsh Labour:

:08:18. > :09:37.Craig Williams, Welsh Conservative Party: 21907.

:09:38. > :09:56.SPEAKS WELSH. I hereby declare that the said Anna McMorrin is duly

:09:57. > :09:59.elected as member of Parliament for the Cardiff North constituency. A

:10:00. > :10:12.very happy and -- a very happy Anna McMorran at try

:10:13. > :10:15.elected. Former adviser to the Welsh Government, beating Craig Williams

:10:16. > :10:20.into second place he had represented the seat since 2015. Plaid Cymru

:10:21. > :11:01.slip in third place. Liberal Democrats

:11:02. > :11:08.Let's have a look at Jeremy Corbyn who has been re-elected in Islington

:11:09. > :11:12.North. This is what he had to say. This election was called in order

:11:13. > :11:18.for the Prime Minister to gain a larger majority in order to assert

:11:19. > :11:24.her authority. The election campaign has gone on for the past six weeks,

:11:25. > :11:29.I've travelled the whole country, I spoke at events and rallies all over

:11:30. > :11:32.the country. And do you know what? Politics has changed. Politics is

:11:33. > :11:37.not going back into the box where it was before. What has happened is,

:11:38. > :11:44.people have said they have had quite enough of austerity politics. I have

:11:45. > :11:47.had quite enough of cuts in public expenditure, underfunding health

:11:48. > :11:51.service and schools and education service, and not giving our young

:11:52. > :11:57.people the chance they deserve in our society. And I'm very proud of

:11:58. > :12:01.the campaign that my party has run, our manifesto for the many not the

:12:02. > :12:07.view. And I'm very proud of the results that are coming in all over

:12:08. > :12:16.the country, of people voting for hope for the future and turning

:12:17. > :12:22.their backs on austerity. And so, if there is a message from tonight's

:12:23. > :12:28.result, it's this: the Prime Minister called the election because

:12:29. > :12:32.she wanted a mandate. Well, the mandate she has got is lost

:12:33. > :12:36.Conservative seats, lost votes, lost support and lost confidence. I would

:12:37. > :12:40.have thought that enough to go, actually. And make way for a

:12:41. > :12:48.government that will be truly representative of all of the people

:12:49. > :12:54.of this country. And so, we await the rest of the results, but I can

:12:55. > :12:57.assure you of this. In the new parliament, we will do everything we

:12:58. > :13:01.can to ensure everything we have said in this campaign and everything

:13:02. > :13:08.that is included in our manifesto is put before Parliament, so that this

:13:09. > :13:12.country can be a different, and I believe, fundamentally, better

:13:13. > :13:15.place. The participation in this election by many who have not

:13:16. > :13:21.participated in elections before, shows the determination to do

:13:22. > :13:25.something very differently in this country. And take a different stance

:13:26. > :13:31.towards the rest of the world. I am very proud of what we have achieved

:13:32. > :13:35.here in Islington. I'm proud of the campaign our party has waged in this

:13:36. > :13:39.election campaign. And I'm very confident of the future, very

:13:40. > :13:46.confident of the future we will grow even faster and further. And that we

:13:47. > :13:50.will be able to carry out those pledges in our manifesto. To

:13:51. > :13:54.properly fund health, properly fund education, properly funded social

:13:55. > :13:59.care, and give all of our young people a real chance for a future,

:14:00. > :14:02.free from debt and full of opportunity. To the people of

:14:03. > :14:06.Islington, thank you very much indeed. To the people of this

:14:07. > :14:09.country, I say thank you to all those who have given such support

:14:10. > :14:13.and confidence in the Labour Party. And thank you to all those all over

:14:14. > :14:18.the country who have worked so hard for this day. We will carry on

:14:19. > :14:23.because we believe in a better future for all. Thank you all very

:14:24. > :14:29.much indeed. A very passionate and please Jeremy Corbyn. Politics has

:14:30. > :14:39.changed forever, he said. Let's go to our politicians here on the sofa.

:14:40. > :14:44.Thank you. I have an entirely fresh panel and three Darrens. Let's hope

:14:45. > :14:51.I can tell them apart. As these riggers. Darren Millar for

:14:52. > :14:57.Conservatives, Darren Williams for Labour, Valerie Williams, thanks for

:14:58. > :15:01.not being called Darren. Darren Hill is a political commentator, so is

:15:02. > :15:04.Valerie I should have said. And for the Liberal Democrats, Mike German.

:15:05. > :15:15.Thanks all of you for joining us. Darren, you are a long-term Jeremy

:15:16. > :15:19.Corbyn supporter and a time when many in your party and in Welsh

:15:20. > :15:23.Labour were expressing concerns about him. Is this vindication for

:15:24. > :15:28.Jeremy Corbyn tonight? I think it is. It is a tremendous night for

:15:29. > :15:34.Labour and Jeremy and puts like to the idea there is any necessary

:15:35. > :15:37.conflict between principle and electability. What is it do you

:15:38. > :15:42.think that turned the tide in this campaign? I think it is the fact

:15:43. > :15:45.that people had the opportunity to hear what Labour stands for without

:15:46. > :15:50.the kind of filter without the media and the misrepresentation Pramac we

:15:51. > :15:54.have seen and what Jeremy stands for. We have seen in Labour's

:15:55. > :16:00.manifesto the policies it offers, the chance for a more equal society,

:16:01. > :16:05.a break from austerity and that appeals to people. As Jeremy said,

:16:06. > :16:11.it is a choice between hope and fear and many people have chosen hope.

:16:12. > :16:16.The Conservatives ran a poor campaign. Theresa May as many people

:16:17. > :16:20.have said took a gamble in seeking a bigger mandate and it has backfired

:16:21. > :16:25.on her. Since then, they've been a number of gass on social care and

:16:26. > :16:30.the manifesto and in so many other ways. And I think that has

:16:31. > :16:34.contributed but it is more positive than that because people have

:16:35. > :16:38.responded in a positive way to what Labour is offering. UK wide, we

:16:39. > :16:44.heard fighting talk from Jeremy Corbyn. He wants to be in government

:16:45. > :16:48.wanting to implement his manifesto. The BBC for costing 322 seats for

:16:49. > :16:53.the Conservatives, which, when you talk about Sinn Fein not talking

:16:54. > :16:57.about their seats, it gives them one seat to play with. Would you want to

:16:58. > :17:02.see Jeremy Corbyn seeking out support from other parties on the

:17:03. > :17:06.left to try to form a government if, indeed, that prediction is vaguely

:17:07. > :17:11.correct? It is very early and is difficult to know how things will

:17:12. > :17:14.pan out. I'd like to see Jeremy heading a government that would take

:17:15. > :17:17.this country in a different direction but there are so many

:17:18. > :17:21.unknowns at the moment. If he is going to be in that position, he

:17:22. > :17:26.will have to depend on the cooperation of other parties. One of

:17:27. > :17:29.the things Labour have done is galvanised opinion. We have seen a

:17:30. > :17:34.polarisation around Labour and the Tories and Jeremy is in a strong

:17:35. > :17:38.position to seek that supports. Is this the end of Labour division

:17:39. > :17:42.within Parliament? Will be MPs rally round after this sort of

:17:43. > :17:48.performance? I hope they will because the argument many of them

:17:49. > :17:53.put to the vote was that journey was not a credible leader and this

:17:54. > :17:57.evening's results have demonstrated that isn't correct. So I think he

:17:58. > :18:02.deserves their support now. He has run a fantastic campaign and they

:18:03. > :18:07.need to rally round. A bad night for the Conservatives. It looks as

:18:08. > :18:11.though your leader has blown the election which couldn't be blown.

:18:12. > :18:16.Let's put it into perspective. This result is off the back of a result a

:18:17. > :18:21.few weeks ago in the council elections where we got a record

:18:22. > :18:24.number of local authority representatives in Wales. Tonight's

:18:25. > :18:30.result represents the biggest share of the vote the party has had in 100

:18:31. > :18:36.years so the fact we have got the sort of votes from the left

:18:37. > :18:41.consolidating behind the Labour Party is what has made that a red

:18:42. > :18:45.tide higher than a lot of people were expecting. Let's not forget

:18:46. > :18:49.either Jeremy Corbyn was speaking as though he has won the election. It

:18:50. > :18:54.hasn't, the Conservatives are by far the biggest party going into the

:18:55. > :18:59.next Parliament. It remains to be seen, that. Does Theresa May need to

:19:00. > :19:06.go whatever happens given the failure to perform? What we have to

:19:07. > :19:09.do is reflect on what has happened, let the dust settle on the result

:19:10. > :19:14.because we don't know the final result. And then reflect on our

:19:15. > :19:18.campaign. Whether things we could have done better? Absolutely. One of

:19:19. > :19:24.the things in Wales in particular was we needed to have a more Welsh

:19:25. > :19:30.campaign. That has been of benefit to the Labour Party in Wales... On

:19:31. > :19:34.that point... I need to... Thank you. I'm rushing you because I want

:19:35. > :19:39.to speak to your former colleague, Craig Williams, who has lost his

:19:40. > :19:45.seat in Cardiff North. Commiserations and thank you very

:19:46. > :19:51.much for joining us. What has gone wrong for you in Cardiff North, do

:19:52. > :19:54.you think? It is a good question and we will have to look at it but let's

:19:55. > :19:59.not rush to judgment is. Nobody has been more affected by this result

:20:00. > :20:04.than me and we shouldn't rush to judgment is on the damage or who to

:20:05. > :20:08.blame and let's see if we can get a mandate to govern the UK tonight. I

:20:09. > :20:13.couldn't deliver and I am sorry about that. Given it looks like

:20:14. > :20:19.Theresa May... Actually, we are going to go to Theresa May's count.

:20:20. > :20:25.Thank you for joining us. We will go to Maidenhead now and Theresa May's

:20:26. > :20:32.count. I, the returning officer at the

:20:33. > :20:37.election held on Thursday June the 8th 2017 do hereby give notice that

:20:38. > :20:58.the number of votes cast for each candidate at the election is as

:20:59. > :21:09.follows. UK Independence Party, 871. Independent, 16.

:21:10. > :21:35.Lord Bucket Head, 249. Liberal Democrats, 6540.

:21:36. > :21:46.The Official Monster Raving Loony Party, 119.

:21:47. > :22:15.Theresa May, the Conservative Party candidate 37,718.

:22:16. > :23:18.Green Party, 907. The number of ballot papers rejected was as

:23:19. > :23:31.follows. Want of an official mark, zero. Voting for more than one

:23:32. > :23:38.candidate, 19. Writing or mark by which the voter could be identified,

:23:39. > :23:49.three. Unmarked or wholly void for uncertainty, 86. Rejected in part,

:23:50. > :24:00.zero. Total rejected votes, 108. I hear by declare that... Theresa May,

:24:01. > :24:08.the Conservative Party candidate has been duly elected. I'd like to ask

:24:09. > :24:19.the successful candidate to come up and say a few words.

:24:20. > :24:27.Thank you very much. First of all, may I on behalf of myself and all of

:24:28. > :24:30.the candidates thank the returning officer and all her staff for the

:24:31. > :24:35.hard work they've put in today in running this election here in the

:24:36. > :24:40.Maidenhead constituency. Can I also thank the police who have had an

:24:41. > :24:46.extra job here tonight in ensuring the security of this event. And

:24:47. > :24:50.thank you to all those who have, once again, supported me as the

:24:51. > :24:56.member of Parliament for Maidenhead. It is a huge honour and privilege to

:24:57. > :25:00.be elected as the member of Parliament for this constituency.

:25:01. > :25:03.And I pledge that I will continue to work for all my constituents as I

:25:04. > :25:08.have done over the period of time that I have been your member of

:25:09. > :25:12.Parliament. It is a huge honour, this is a wonderful constituency,

:25:13. > :25:20.and I look forward to continuing to work with you, to see improvements,

:25:21. > :25:23.further improvements, for the life of those living here in the

:25:24. > :25:26.Maidenhead constituency. As we look more widely across the country,

:25:27. > :25:29.returns are still coming in, we have yet to see the full picture

:25:30. > :25:35.emerging, votes are still being counted. But at this time more than

:25:36. > :25:43.anything else this country needs a period of stability. And if as the

:25:44. > :25:48.indications have shown, that the Conservative Party has won the most

:25:49. > :25:52.seats and probably the most votes, then it will be incumbent on us to

:25:53. > :25:56.ensure we have that period of stability and that is exactly what

:25:57. > :25:59.we will do. I'd like to thank all those across the country who have

:26:00. > :26:07.voted for the Conservative Party today. As we round this campaign, we

:26:08. > :26:13.set out to consider the issues that are the key priorities for the

:26:14. > :26:18.British people. Getting the Brexit deal right, making sure we identify

:26:19. > :26:22.and show how we can address the big challenges facing our country, doing

:26:23. > :26:26.what is in the national interest. That is always what I have tried to

:26:27. > :26:33.do in my time as member of Parliament. And my resolve to do

:26:34. > :26:38.that is the same this morning as it always has been. As we look ahead

:26:39. > :26:46.and we wait to see what the final was also will be, I know that, as I

:26:47. > :26:51.say, the country needs a period of stability, and whatever the results

:26:52. > :26:55.are, the Conservative Party will ensure that we fulfil our duty in

:26:56. > :27:02.ensuring that stability so that we can all, as one country, go forward

:27:03. > :27:07.together. Thank you. Theresa May making clear that she

:27:08. > :27:16.won't be going anywhere if the country needs a period of stability.

:27:17. > :27:19.And if they have the most seats in votes, it will be incumbent on them

:27:20. > :27:26.to provide that stability, she says. Let's talk to the new member of

:27:27. > :27:31.Parliament for Cardiff North, Anna McMorrin. Congratulations, you must

:27:32. > :27:35.be very happy. And is this all down to Welsh Labour, Jeremy Corbyn, what

:27:36. > :27:42.is the recipe of success here? You know, we fought a very positive,

:27:43. > :27:47.energetic campaign in Cardiff North. So we had a great team, everybody

:27:48. > :27:52.was out, we were speaking to people, knocking on doors, having a very

:27:53. > :27:58.positive reaction. So I think it is a combination of Welsh Labour, who

:27:59. > :28:02.were fantastic, but we work as one party across the UK. We just heard

:28:03. > :28:06.the Prime Minister there. I'm sure you didn't hear her but she was

:28:07. > :28:13.talking about the need for a period of stability now and the need for

:28:14. > :28:18.the Conservatives to provide that. Within the Labour movement, is there

:28:19. > :28:23.a sense of going towards territory of a Jeremy Corbyn administration or

:28:24. > :28:29.is it too early to say? As I say, I have been here at the Cardiff count,

:28:30. > :28:32.we've been focused on the result in Cardiff North and the positive

:28:33. > :28:38.campaign result that we have seen here. For me, it is far too early to

:28:39. > :28:45.say. When you were knocking on doors, what were the big issues? Was

:28:46. > :28:49.at a Brexit collection for you? I think the Conservatives tried to

:28:50. > :28:54.make it into that Brexit collection and it is important now we get the

:28:55. > :29:00.best, most sensible deal on Brexit. What we absolutely must do is ensure

:29:01. > :29:04.good, high quality public services, and money coming from Westminster to

:29:05. > :29:08.Wales so we can fund those excellent public services. Who knows, it could

:29:09. > :29:14.be Jeremy Corbyn leading those Brexit talk in 11 days and I'm sure

:29:15. > :29:27.you'd welcome that. If it is Jeremy Corbyn leading it, it would be Kier

:29:28. > :29:35.Starmer leading those talks. You are going to Parliament imminently, any

:29:36. > :29:39.idea how that will work? I'm thrilled by the result, and thanks

:29:40. > :29:41.to my great team... I am sorry to cut too short but we will go to

:29:42. > :29:54.Cardiff West for the result. We can see Kevin Brennan there. They

:29:55. > :29:59.are just coming to get the result there, getting the microphones

:30:00. > :30:20.ready. SPEAKS WELSH.

:30:21. > :30:27.I, the undersigned, being the acting returning officer at the election of

:30:28. > :30:33.a member of Parliament for Cardiff West constituency, held on Thursday

:30:34. > :30:35.eighth June 2017, hereby give notice that the number of votes recorded

:30:36. > :30:47.for each candidate at the said election are as follows.

:30:48. > :31:06.Kevin Brennan, Welsh Labour, 26,425 votes.

:31:07. > :32:07.Alex Meredith, Liberal Democrats: 1214.

:32:08. > :32:39.Matthew Smith, Welsh Conservative Party: 13 874.

:32:40. > :32:53.I hereby declare... He has been the MPs and 2001. He keeps hold of that

:32:54. > :32:58.seat in Cardiff West. He resigned from Jeremy Corbyn's front bench and

:32:59. > :33:03.is a member of the Parliamentary rock group MP for, I don't know if

:33:04. > :33:43.you've heard them but they're not bad.

:33:44. > :33:59.Lots going on Ceredigion. And they are counting behind you, Serie A? --

:34:00. > :34:07.Sarah? It's a full recount called by the Liberal Democrats. There have

:34:08. > :34:12.been lots of votes for Labour and the Conservatives. A full recount

:34:13. > :34:14.here at Ceredigion. The agents and candidates are pretty relaxed, they

:34:15. > :34:22.are waiting for this process to go ahead. What is quite telling is the

:34:23. > :34:27.crowd of people that have started to gather outside here in Ceredigion

:34:28. > :34:31.including a former MP and AM and also Ben Lake's parents. Whether or

:34:32. > :34:36.not that is an indication of confidence, that they will gain this

:34:37. > :34:41.seat, we will have to wait and see. A full recount. Let's go to

:34:42. > :34:45.Carmarthen West where they are about to declare. I think they are on the

:34:46. > :34:54.stage. Just getting it already. Tracking the mics.

:34:55. > :35:03.Election of member of Parliament for the Carmarthen West and South

:35:04. > :35:49.Pembrokeshire. SPEAKS WELSH. I covered the acting returning

:35:50. > :36:00.officer, declare the Carmarthen West and South Pembrokeshire constituency

:36:01. > :36:06.on the eighth June 2017, the number of votes recorded for each candidate

:36:07. > :36:24.is as follows. Alistair Cameron, Welsh Liberal Democrats: 956.

:36:25. > :36:33.Phil Edwards, UK Independence Party: 905.

:36:34. > :37:04.Simon Hart, Conservatives: 197 someone. Fixing the

:37:05. > :37:32.. Marc Tierney, Labour, 16600 and 61.

:37:33. > :38:12.Lack of official Mark: zero. Voting for more candidates are entitled to:

:38:13. > :38:38.14. SPEAKS WELSH. Void for uncertainty: 44. Total: 65.

:38:39. > :38:59.SPEAKS WELSH. I hereby declare that Simon Hart is elected the member of

:39:00. > :39:03.Parliament for Carmarthenshire West and South Pembrokeshire. Not great

:39:04. > :39:10.sound there I'm afraid but we did hear that Simon Hart held the seat.

:39:11. > :39:11.He has represented since 2010. Born in Wolverhampton, very pro-hunting.

:39:12. > :39:57.He is back to Parliament. We are hearing that Tim Farron has

:39:58. > :40:00.held his seat, the leader of the Liberal Democrats. But I thought

:40:01. > :40:06.recount in Hastings and Rye, the constituency of Amber Rudd. Plenty

:40:07. > :40:11.to talk about with our politicians. First on the sofa, you're not

:40:12. > :40:19.dosing, are you? How could we be, with all this going on -- you are

:40:20. > :40:26.not dozing are you? The BBC has adjusted its forecast, so

:40:27. > :40:33.Conservatives will be short of eight other majority at the moment. In

:40:34. > :40:38.terms of the Welsh numbers, that we have seen over the last hour and

:40:39. > :40:42.hour and a half, you are looking at the statistics, what trends are you

:40:43. > :40:45.seen? I'm looking at number of votes rather than vote share, and I'm

:40:46. > :40:58.seeing a pattern where the Labour Party has gone up five to seven

:40:59. > :41:07.votes, -- five to 7000 votes. And Conservatives going up slightly

:41:08. > :41:11.shorter, both were connecting with people prepared to vote for them.

:41:12. > :41:16.They were confident. Now it looks like Conservatives were knocked out

:41:17. > :41:21.because it wasn't the message they were getting. They didn't see it. It

:41:22. > :41:24.has been done by squeezing absolutely everybody else. We might

:41:25. > :41:31.be heading back to a situation of the 70s or 60s where the vote share

:41:32. > :41:36.is split between two parties. Two party politics back in fashion?

:41:37. > :41:41.Could well be. Interesting about the total tally. In Cardiff North, it

:41:42. > :41:47.wasn't quite like that. A staggering 77% turnout. The Tory votes didn't

:41:48. > :41:51.go up in Cardiff North. But it's an interesting seat. Because it

:41:52. > :41:56.normally, or has always until now, in recent history, always gone the

:41:57. > :42:01.way of the government. I do wonder, is this the night that Cardiff North

:42:02. > :42:05.box that trend or do we have some more surprises in store? As the

:42:06. > :42:11.final results come through in other parts of the UK. We will talk more

:42:12. > :42:14.about that. In terms of smaller parties getting squeezed out, for

:42:15. > :42:18.Plaid Cymru, whether this is a disappointing night for a successful

:42:19. > :42:22.one depends on the result of the recount in Ceredigion which is

:42:23. > :42:26.obviously very close. With your other target seats and this one in

:42:27. > :42:31.particular, a disappointing results? If the Ceredigion recount comes our

:42:32. > :42:36.way, we are heading that it is 150 that we should be able to win. It

:42:37. > :42:39.would be a good night because I wouldn't vote count where Simon

:42:40. > :42:43.Thomas last. I would have been mightily glad if we want that. I

:42:44. > :42:48.think we potentially over predicted some of our seats. That is a lesson

:42:49. > :42:52.we have to go back in. Having the intelligence on the ground, should

:42:53. > :42:57.we focus on one or two instead of spreading ourselves too thinly where

:42:58. > :43:01.we thought we were squat Doi Matt Brunt and Blaenau Gwent but we could

:43:02. > :43:08.have -- stronger in Blaenau Gwent but we could have put our resources

:43:09. > :43:12.in other places. If it is an Parliament, as someone said earlier

:43:13. > :43:16.on, smaller parties have a part to play about how we can share feature

:43:17. > :43:21.policies. I would be more excited to work with someone like Jeremy Corbyn

:43:22. > :43:26.Van Theresa May, but that is all to play for now here for the rest of

:43:27. > :43:31.the morning. From a Lib Dem perspective, what are your thoughts

:43:32. > :43:35.so far of your party? I think that this election was too early for us.

:43:36. > :43:40.We positioned ourselves clearly on the matter of the issue of Brexit.

:43:41. > :43:46.The fact that we were wanting to give people another chance to have a

:43:47. > :43:49.vote at the end of it. That meant that if you haven't started the

:43:50. > :43:54.negotiations and talking about the issues, if you don't have the

:43:55. > :43:58.results, it is difficult to say that it feels all right, it feels just

:43:59. > :44:02.like it was yesterday. Therefore nothing has changed, this is not an

:44:03. > :44:05.election that we want to give our support too. It doesn't seem to be

:44:06. > :44:15.affecting our lives. It will change in the future, of course. The other

:44:16. > :44:18.thing about the Back To The Future election, which has been very

:44:19. > :44:24.presidential, one pillow fighting another pillar. And you have to put

:44:25. > :44:29.telling a good build up the votes on one side or other. It means our

:44:30. > :44:33.country has become more divided. People move more towards the left

:44:34. > :44:39.and right, meaning that there is a big gap in our political system. It

:44:40. > :44:43.is apparent here in Wales, as well. I think over time, as Brexit becomes

:44:44. > :44:47.more apparent, as we see the results and the feature, we will see a

:44:48. > :44:57.different sort of outburst. Is Tim Farron the right man to lead

:44:58. > :45:01.that resurgence, do you think? Tim has rebuilt the party. We have more

:45:02. > :45:07.than doubled our membership in the last 12 months, we have... Fought

:45:08. > :45:13.hard in the election, rebuilt local parties which were devastated by the

:45:14. > :45:19.2015 result, and by the kit we got by being in coalition. It was an

:45:20. > :45:24.election that was too early for us and that process is to go on and

:45:25. > :45:28.there is more rebuilding to be done. It was the wrong gamble

:45:29. > :45:32.strategically to promise a second referendum and all those Remainers

:45:33. > :45:38.will flock to the Lib Dem tent. That was a message we were going to carry

:45:39. > :45:43.through until the end of the negotiations. But we haven't started

:45:44. > :45:48.them. And this surprise election, of course, which for the Conservatives

:45:49. > :45:54.has turned out to be a wrong decision, quite clearly, one which I

:45:55. > :45:57.wonder what will be the Parliamentary situation when we

:45:58. > :46:02.start to discuss Brexit? We will have in front of us this massive

:46:03. > :46:05.amount of legislation and Parliament will be... Hold on for a second

:46:06. > :46:11.because if we look at the screen, we can see the Prime Minister's

:46:12. > :46:16.cavalcade returning from her account in Maidenhead, the Prime Minister as

:46:17. > :46:21.expected holding her seat in Maidenhead, more than 30,000 votes

:46:22. > :46:25.for her. As she heads back to Downing Street giving a statement

:46:26. > :46:29.that stability would be important and the Conservatives, one assumes

:46:30. > :46:35.under her leadership, she didn't specify, would be in a position to

:46:36. > :46:38.provide that stability and that is what she intended to do. So, the

:46:39. > :46:44.Prime Minister returning from the count. I think it is back to you,

:46:45. > :46:48.Bethan. Interesting to see her speeding back

:46:49. > :46:52.to Downing Street. If she were to resign, by the way, she'd be a very

:46:53. > :46:59.short lived Prime Minister, even shorter, I think, than Andrew Bonar

:47:00. > :47:06.Law, back in 1922. George Canning, I looked it up earlier. You can see

:47:07. > :47:17.Nicola Sturgeon now, another leader not having a great evening. There we

:47:18. > :47:24.go. The leader of the SNP. As you can see, Nicola Sturgeon has

:47:25. > :47:28.now arrived at the count, followed by reporters, cameramen as well, as

:47:29. > :47:33.you'd expect, and she will now be giving her reaction to what has been

:47:34. > :47:38.a mixed night for the SNP, it is fair to say. A disappointing night.

:47:39. > :47:44.They have suffered losses in Scotland, losing their leader in

:47:45. > :47:48.Westminster, Angus Robertson, in the constituency of Moray where the

:47:49. > :47:52.Conservatives were successful. Here in Glasgow we have had the results

:47:53. > :47:57.of all seven Glasgow constituencies. The SNP had been confident of

:47:58. > :48:02.winning all seven. In the event, they held onto six, losing one of

:48:03. > :48:07.those to Labour. They've also had some reduced majority is another's

:48:08. > :48:14.of the seats here, in one case, Glasgow South West, the SNP held on

:48:15. > :48:19.but then edge oratory was cut from 9950 to just 60. That is a sign of

:48:20. > :48:27.the way things have been going for the SNP here this evening. One

:48:28. > :48:32.successful candidate here, one UNP, SNP MP, has said it has been a mixed

:48:33. > :48:39.bag and a difficult night for the SNP. Labour have been celebrating

:48:40. > :48:44.here. They have had gains, including in Glasgow. The Conservatives are

:48:45. > :48:50.also buoyant, having ousted Angus Robertson. So, there will be

:48:51. > :48:55.difficult questions for Nicola Sturgeon to answer. She goes to do

:48:56. > :48:58.her interviews, she is in position with one of the broadcasters on the

:48:59. > :49:04.balcony and she will be facing questions about where the party goes

:49:05. > :49:07.from here and also about the independence referendum and how that

:49:08. > :49:13.has overshadowed the campaign here in Scotland and also was she right

:49:14. > :49:18.to make those calls for a second independence referendum.

:49:19. > :49:22.And the fact that SNP supporters felt now is not the time, they

:49:23. > :49:30.agreed with Theresa May, perhaps, that now is not the time to push for

:49:31. > :49:36.leaving another union. I didn't quite catch that. I think what we

:49:37. > :49:41.have seen in Scotland is that a lot of people have taken to Jeremy

:49:42. > :49:45.Corbyn. They like his style of leadership, they like his

:49:46. > :49:52.principles, his values, and they do see an alternative, and they've left

:49:53. > :50:03.the SNP to vote for Labour, as one SNP member here told me earlier,

:50:04. > :50:09.these Corbynites believe all these MPs are just like Jeremy Corbyn and

:50:10. > :50:13.they are not, she says. They have been wooed by Jeremy Corbyn. The SNP

:50:14. > :50:21.does share a lot of valleys with Jeremy Corbyn and we heard from the

:50:22. > :50:26.SNP MSP earlier, and he said there are a lot of shared values and that

:50:27. > :50:29.could in itself lead to the SMB coming to some sort of arrangement

:50:30. > :50:34.with Labour if need be in the future. Thank you very much and we

:50:35. > :50:38.will be back to you later in the morning. Let's have a look at the

:50:39. > :50:55.tally in Scotland at the moment. If we look at that,...

:50:56. > :51:04.Let us look at that one seat where Angus Robertson has lost his seat.

:51:05. > :51:05.That is a big scalp and the Conservatives taking it, Douglas

:51:06. > :51:28.Ross the new MP for Moray. The change since last time, the SNP

:51:29. > :51:38.right down there. The Conservatives benefiting.

:51:39. > :51:52.It is a swing from the SNP to the Conservatives of 14%. Interesting,

:51:53. > :51:55.Laura. Yes. This is a difficult one because, don't forget what an

:51:56. > :52:00.impregnable the SNP were coming from. Swept the board in the

:52:01. > :52:04.election two years ago, with just three seats in the hands of their

:52:05. > :52:08.opponents. I think everyone knew they were going to fall back in this

:52:09. > :52:12.election but I think what they were hoping for is the twin challenge of

:52:13. > :52:16.the Conservatives and Labour would allow the SNP to hang on to some of

:52:17. > :52:21.these seats but they are losing some very significant players here. Angus

:52:22. > :52:31.Robertson in particular has been the voice of anti-brexit-mac campaigning

:52:32. > :52:36.for the SNP and has been Nicola Sturgeon's... Nicola Sturgeon has

:52:37. > :52:44.said she needs to reflect on the idea of a referendum. Nick, I mean,

:52:45. > :52:49.in terms of the SNP, will they now think, right, now is not the time,

:52:50. > :52:57.let's park that one? Lets not talk about it, let's forget it or will

:52:58. > :53:01.there be a revaluation of it? You quoted Nicola Sturgeon on that

:53:02. > :53:09.reflection nine, people will read into that. The inevitable conclusion

:53:10. > :53:13.to that is that there will be some kind of parking of this in whatever

:53:14. > :53:19.way she does it. I know she has been doing more interviews, and in the

:53:20. > :53:24.fullness of time... That is all we have to go on at the moment. The

:53:25. > :53:28.Conservative gains we were expecting. It is the Labour gains

:53:29. > :53:33.seem to have taken everyone by surprise. I tweeted earlier that

:53:34. > :53:36.even from a Welsh perspective I felt hoodwinked by Welsh Labour because

:53:37. > :53:42.they've been telling us they aren't so much trouble! Jeremy Corbyn is

:53:43. > :53:47.innate confident mood, he has called for Theresa May to go. It's her

:53:48. > :53:51.position tenable? If she doesn't have a majority, there will be

:53:52. > :53:56.questions. It is difficult to see how Theresa May can cling on, it is

:53:57. > :54:01.a matter of time for me. The point of the referendum was to add greater

:54:02. > :54:06.weight to her mandate, personally and for the party, to negotiate what

:54:07. > :54:09.is bound to be a stormy period of two years, and to be in this

:54:10. > :54:15.position against someone who is regarded as a weak Labour leader,

:54:16. > :54:18.not a strong one but a weak one. Quite a lot of the debate as well as

:54:19. > :54:23.Brexit has been a vote about austerity. A year ago we were one of

:54:24. > :54:28.the strongest growing in the G7 and we are now at the bottom of the G7

:54:29. > :54:32.in terms of economic growth which doesn't match the strong and stable

:54:33. > :54:37.message. When so many people particularly in Wales have had their

:54:38. > :54:40.incomes frozen because they are public sector workers this could

:54:41. > :54:45.partly be the reflecting and voting on austerity as much as they are

:54:46. > :54:48.voting on Brexit. It'll be interesting to see the analysis. We

:54:49. > :54:53.could have been talking about a different narrative. The idea was

:54:54. > :54:58.Tory targets, so what happened? What went wrong for the Conservatives in

:54:59. > :55:02.Wales? Let's ask our man with all the toys tonight.

:55:03. > :55:07.The toys have been struggling to catch up as the results have been

:55:08. > :55:12.coming in. We have been looking for patterns, what has been happening of

:55:13. > :55:17.the 38 seats. The Conservative targets, we were talking about plays

:55:18. > :55:21.is like Wrexham and Bridgend. Let's bring up the Tory targets that we've

:55:22. > :55:26.been talking about over the last few weeks and during the night. These

:55:27. > :55:30.were the targets, we were looking at Bridgend, Clwyd South, Wrexham. Now

:55:31. > :55:35.I'll show you what has happened so far during the course of the night.

:55:36. > :55:39.Labour has kept hold of all the target seats the Conservatives were

:55:40. > :55:44.aiming to take from them and, look overhear, in fact when you're

:55:45. > :55:49.talking about Cardiff North and others, laboured totally differently

:55:50. > :55:52.than expected, they've been taking seats away from the Conservatives.

:55:53. > :55:57.There has been an interesting pattern developing across the board

:55:58. > :56:02.in Wales, especially in those Labour Conservative battles is when you're

:56:03. > :56:07.looking at the share of the vote, it is very high for the Conservatives

:56:08. > :56:11.and for the Labour Party. 50% so far across Wales, Labour has managed to

:56:12. > :56:17.get. That is the highest level we have seen since 1997 for the Labour

:56:18. > :56:21.Party. 34% of the vote for the Conservatives is very far from being

:56:22. > :56:26.a bad night. That's their highest share of the vote in Wales since the

:56:27. > :56:29.1930s. Across the board, the Conservatives have been increasing

:56:30. > :56:33.their boat but Labour has been increasing their boat by a faster

:56:34. > :56:39.rate than the Conservatives. Another interesting statistic, 50% for

:56:40. > :56:45.Labour, 34% for the Conservatives, a combined total of 84% of voters

:56:46. > :56:52.going for the two main parties. That is the highest total for the two

:56:53. > :56:56.main parties since 1966. Back then, we didn't have Ukip or the greens.

:56:57. > :57:01.What's been happening is the two main parties have been sucking up

:57:02. > :57:04.all the votes from the other parties, really squeezing those

:57:05. > :57:12.smaller parties out of contention in so many areas, even in the Plaid

:57:13. > :57:17.Cymru strongholds. The boats going from Plaid Cymru, the smaller party,

:57:18. > :57:23.up to the two larger parties. Here you have the difference between 2015

:57:24. > :57:28.and 2017. The Conservatives, up 6%. On any other night, you'd be saying

:57:29. > :57:34.well done, Conservatives. But Labour has done so much better, a 12%

:57:35. > :57:40.increase so far for the Labour Party. 38 seats have declared.

:57:41. > :57:44.It could have been so different. That is the pattern of elections

:57:45. > :57:53.these days, we can't predict anything! It is an extraordinary

:57:54. > :57:58.statistic, 84% domination. Vale of Clwyd, 94% the domination of the two

:57:59. > :58:04.parties. We haven't seen that since the 60s. That 50% vote share in

:58:05. > :58:08.Wales the highest it has been since 1997. The stats keep on coming here

:58:09. > :58:12.with regard to the Labour performance. Let's just have a look

:58:13. > :58:21.at some of them, the results. We haven't been able to get to all of

:58:22. > :58:27.them so far. Cardiff South and Penarth, Stephen Doughty returns to

:58:28. > :58:46.Parliament. If we look at the share of the vote.

:58:47. > :58:55.The collapse in the Ukip boat once again. And the swing from

:58:56. > :58:59.Conservative to Labour, a big one, six points 7%. Merthyr Tydfil, a

:59:00. > :59:02.real Labour fortress here, Labour hold, of course, Gerald Jones

:59:03. > :59:42.returns. Ukip once again crashing down. It is

:59:43. > :00:18.a swing of 2.4% from the Conservatives to Labour.

:00:19. > :00:38.A small swing to the Conservatives. Stephen Kinnock, we talked to him

:00:39. > :00:39.earlier. He was returned safely. He is returning to Parliament. Big

:00:40. > :01:05.majority. 68% of the fort. -- fort. A 19% increase. Not a big Jeremy

:01:06. > :01:15.Corbyn supporter. He did not exactly endorse him. It will be interesting

:01:16. > :01:25.to see how all these who were not keen on Jeremy Corbyn will be acting

:01:26. > :01:37.in Parliament no. We should go back to the politicians. They are with

:01:38. > :01:48.us. They are reading to go. Plenty of stamina. They have been

:01:49. > :01:56.campaigning for weeks and also had a very busy day today, getting people

:01:57. > :02:04.out. I will start with Scotland. What do you make of what is

:02:05. > :02:09.happening with the SNP? I think it will be a disappointment to the SNP.

:02:10. > :02:16.Losses were inevitable after winning virtually every seat last time. But

:02:17. > :02:22.I still think they will be disappointed to lose the likes of

:02:23. > :02:28.Alex Salmond and Angus Robertson. These are the experienced members of

:02:29. > :02:39.the parliament. The knowledge would be very useful as we go into 2017.

:02:40. > :02:45.Nicola Sturgeon saying she would reflect on the issue of the

:02:46. > :02:53.independence referendum, which some people think of some SNP supporters

:02:54. > :03:00.away. Her dishy reflect on that? In terms of this campaign, the late

:03:01. > :03:04.intervention remained in people that independence was still a massive

:03:05. > :03:10.issue just a couple of days before the election, that was seen as a

:03:11. > :03:16.mistake. Whether or not there would be a leadership challenge, I cannot

:03:17. > :03:26.see that happening, but there will be some salt searching. The

:03:27. > :03:32.Conservative Party, how will they did in Scotland, as well as the rest

:03:33. > :03:40.of the contrast with the United Kingdom. We have seen a real shift.

:03:41. > :03:46.If the Conservatives picked up double figures in Scotland, that is

:03:47. > :03:52.going to help them a great deal. We were talking about the national and

:03:53. > :03:58.regional differences within the United Kingdom. What we sell in

:03:59. > :04:03.Scotland was a very different and distinct Scottish campaign from the

:04:04. > :04:07.Conservatives. In Wales, it was much more in England and Wales campaign.

:04:08. > :04:12.I think that is a disadvantage in some respects here. I would like to

:04:13. > :04:23.have seen much more of a Welsh campaign. It would've helped fill

:04:24. > :04:29.leader had not on holiday? Teddy 's ears the leader. But any Welsh

:04:30. > :04:35.contact, you said we should be campaigning more anywhere else

:04:36. > :04:39.bases. I think there needs to be soul-searching from the Conservative

:04:40. > :04:44.campaign on the nature of our campaigning and there we reorganise

:04:45. > :04:50.ourselves. We need to make sure we optimise our impact on the ground. I

:04:51. > :04:57.am gutted that we have lost three outstanding MPs in Wales. They were

:04:58. > :05:04.terrific for the constituencies. The ad didn't want to see us going

:05:05. > :05:06.backwards. I think we needed a more Wales focused campaign. If we had

:05:07. > :05:12.done that, I do not think we would've seen great the results we

:05:13. > :05:19.have seen. But our sheer of the voters still pretty remarkable.

:05:20. > :05:27.Record-breaking for the last 100 years. You had to go in and that in

:05:28. > :05:37.that debate because the leader was not there. A sticky wicket. Always

:05:38. > :05:45.the experience like? That was the weight I had to take on that night.

:05:46. > :05:54.Did you enjoy it? I am always happy to step into the breach when needed.

:05:55. > :05:59.Maybe you can reflect a little on what is going on in different parts

:06:00. > :06:05.of the United Kingdom. What do you see happening there? One thing that

:06:06. > :06:14.looks consistent as the youth turnout. Absolutely. There has been

:06:15. > :06:17.an unprecedented increase in the number of young people registering

:06:18. > :06:24.to vote and getting actively involved. A seen a lot of young

:06:25. > :06:30.activists in Cardiff. That has made an important difference. That has

:06:31. > :06:36.been repeated across much of the United Kingdom. It shows how much

:06:37. > :06:45.Jeremy Corbyn 's message is galvanising people. Talk a little

:06:46. > :06:47.bit about the feel your of the Welsh Labour campaign as opposed to the

:06:48. > :06:58.Labour campaign throughout the United Kingdom. Carwyn Jones very

:06:59. > :07:06.much the focus of the campaign. To what extent does that feeding IIe

:07:07. > :07:12.wader partum and the idea of labour upping the vote and taking seats

:07:13. > :07:16.from other parties. I think that is a positive message to tell the

:07:17. > :07:24.people about devil you should in the face of austerity. But I do not

:07:25. > :07:29.think there needs to conflict with positive messages at the Party at

:07:30. > :07:35.Westminster level has been putting forward. What we have seen as a

:07:36. > :07:46.vindication of Jeremy Corbyn 's personal approach to politics. There

:07:47. > :07:50.was an attempt to destabilise the Party and that was a big

:07:51. > :08:00.miscalculation. The manifesto has been very popular. It is great to be

:08:01. > :08:02.able to talk about Welsh achievements alongside that that

:08:03. > :08:09.they should not be in conflict with each other. I think we need to focus

:08:10. > :08:16.on the personality that is Jeremy Corbyn. I do not like that type of

:08:17. > :08:20.campaigning. I think you need to take a much more positive vision. I

:08:21. > :08:29.think it was too personal a campaign. It is not the sale of

:08:30. > :08:35.campaign I am used to. It did not just focus on Jeremy Corbyn. It

:08:36. > :08:43.began by focusing on Theresa May. She came across as very

:08:44. > :08:49.presidential. Yes, I want to focus on local campaigns. That is why we

:08:50. > :08:53.have seen success over the last 15 years, people battling with local

:08:54. > :09:00.issues over health centres and schools. That is where we are

:09:01. > :09:09.effective. On the presidential thing, in fact, the Conservatives,

:09:10. > :09:14.probably to experience in Downing Street who may well be getting their

:09:15. > :09:21.marching orders, who sat down and orchestrated that campaign. The

:09:22. > :09:30.focus is on the people concerned. When you have a leader of which did

:09:31. > :09:35.not want to engage with the public. It is the first time in living

:09:36. > :09:48.memory that the Prime Minister has not appeared on our programme said

:09:49. > :09:58.the today programme on Radio 4. If it was more about the issues rather

:09:59. > :10:07.than the presidential part, then it was never going to work. I agree, if

:10:08. > :10:11.you're going to run that sort of content, you have to pick yourself

:10:12. > :10:19.out there and pick yourself up against Jeremy Corbyn. If you duck

:10:20. > :10:25.that, it is going to be a disaster. Also, a judgment call. Going back to

:10:26. > :10:30.Scotland. Three months ago, Theresa May made a statement about a second

:10:31. > :10:37.referendum in Scotland. Teenage results seem to indicate she was

:10:38. > :10:42.rates on Scotland, but that was probably not the team for the

:10:43. > :10:50.general election. People are fed up of going to the ballot box. Did she

:10:51. > :10:56.make a mistake of believing the hype? We have maybe trusted opinion

:10:57. > :11:01.polls over the last few years, and did she look at the 20% lead think

:11:02. > :11:08.she could make things more comfortable for herself with the

:11:09. > :11:13.negotiations over Brexit coming up. I think it was going to be a very

:11:14. > :11:19.frustrating process regardless of which side is in charge. Whatever

:11:20. > :11:24.deal is going to be at the end of these negotiations through the UK

:11:25. > :11:33.Parliament at the end of it. Some people within the Conservative Party

:11:34. > :11:39.will be unhappy Brexit with, so it was understandable that she wanted

:11:40. > :11:52.to hold the election. Lots of things are taken into account when these

:11:53. > :11:56.decisions are made. We had earlier from the Liberal Democrats that she

:11:57. > :12:00.had the feeling when she was talking to people on the doorstep that they

:12:01. > :12:07.resented the selection, did not want that. Did you get a sense of that?

:12:08. > :12:17.There was a sense of that. I think it was announced just coming up

:12:18. > :12:23.after the local elections. Instead of people getting energised about

:12:24. > :12:29.local issues, we were talking about Brexit and Jeremy Corbyn and Theresa

:12:30. > :12:40.May. He need to make a judgment call as to when is an appropriate time.

:12:41. > :12:46.We all work hard, regardless of which Party we represent and we need

:12:47. > :12:54.time to campaign. We have Kevin, the MP for Cardiff West.

:12:55. > :12:58.Congratulations. You must be extremely happy and very proud of

:12:59. > :13:11.Jeremy Corbyn. Thank you very much. I am happy. It is quite emotional.

:13:12. > :13:17.My campaign was launched by Rhodri Morgan, who passed away during the

:13:18. > :13:24.course of the campaign. So I dedicate this to him. I am sure he

:13:25. > :13:31.would be extremely proud of events. By do you think you are having the

:13:32. > :13:39.success or did you predict it? At the start of the campaign, Cardiff

:13:40. > :13:44.West was down as being a possible gain for the Conservatives. We took

:13:45. > :13:49.them very seriously and campaigned extremely hard. One of the reasons

:13:50. > :13:56.we have done so will has been the positive manifesto we had, the

:13:57. > :14:04.positive ideas. I'd also, this vision of the heart Brexit under the

:14:05. > :14:09.Conservatives and further austerity. People are looking for an

:14:10. > :14:15.alternative. One alternative could be, according to the Shadow

:14:16. > :14:19.Chancellor, he is seeing that potentially Labour could form a

:14:20. > :14:29.minority administration. Is that feasible going for two Brexit

:14:30. > :14:36.negotiations? Jeremy Corbyn at the helm. We do not know the final

:14:37. > :14:40.results. If a majority government is not available, it should be up to

:14:41. > :14:49.the Labour Party to try and form a government. The Conservatives are

:14:50. > :14:57.incapable of forming a minority government. Whatever happens, going

:14:58. > :15:01.forward with Brexit, we cannot go forward as business with usual. All

:15:02. > :15:07.the talents of Parliament must be brought in to approach these terms.

:15:08. > :15:15.The approach of Theresa May has been rejected. We appreciate you staying

:15:16. > :15:17.till the bitter end to speak to others. Enjoy your victory.

:15:18. > :15:36.Congratulations. What is going on there? One word you

:15:37. > :15:41.don't want to hear at 4:15am is recount. We haven't heard that word

:15:42. > :15:46.yet but what we have heard is a bundle flick. What does it mean?

:15:47. > :15:51.They are flicking through the bundles to make sure the numbers the

:15:52. > :15:55.agents have correspond to the numbers on the ballot papers. So,

:15:56. > :16:00.not a recount as yet, we'll wait to see if that will happen but what

:16:01. > :16:04.we've got at the moment is quite a few people going through those

:16:05. > :16:10.bundles behind me. It should take another few minutes. What we can

:16:11. > :16:18.read into that is that it is very close between the Conservative,

:16:19. > :16:24.Stephen Crabb, and the Labour candidate, Philippa Thompson. It's

:16:25. > :16:29.come a bit of a surprise we have come to this situation. Stephen

:16:30. > :16:34.Crabb the majority of 5002 years ago. It is a late one in Priscilla

:16:35. > :16:39.Pembrokeshire. A bundle flick is new for me as well, and we will see

:16:40. > :16:45.whether it develops into a recount or if we have a result in the next

:16:46. > :16:49.15 minutes or so. It is a new one for me, as they flick the bundles

:16:50. > :16:58.they are definitely be counting in character gun. There has been a full

:16:59. > :17:06.recount. If I look over my shoulder, that count has now finished. It is

:17:07. > :17:10.difficult to say when to expect the result because the officers to my

:17:11. > :17:15.right, you're left, are doing the sums right now. It was the Lib Dems

:17:16. > :17:20.who called for the recount, apparently there was less than 150

:17:21. > :17:26.votes between Mark Williams for the Liberal Democrats and Ben Lake for

:17:27. > :17:30.Plaid Cymru. It appears the votes have been found in the Labour and

:17:31. > :17:35.Conservative bundles as the recount was happening. How that will affect

:17:36. > :17:40.the vote now we are not sure how whether it is apparent there is a

:17:41. > :17:46.growing number of Ben Lake supporters outside this hall here,

:17:47. > :17:51.including his parents, that number has swelled from a few to about

:17:52. > :17:57.20-30. They are anticipating a result. What nobody wants to hear,

:17:58. > :18:01.that word recount, whether that will happen all know, we will never know

:18:02. > :18:08.and we'll have to wait. No flicking of bundles there but they are

:18:09. > :18:12.flicking bundles elsewhere. We will keep across all of that. Let's take

:18:13. > :18:22.a look at the picture in Wales. Just a reminder of the seats so far.

:18:23. > :18:28.Plaid Cymru on three. Potentially getting Ceredigion as well, maybe.

:18:29. > :18:35.The Lib Dems on zero at the moment, Ukip on zero and Greens on zero. The

:18:36. > :18:56.big picture, then, across the UK, the Conservatives on 233, down ten.

:18:57. > :19:02.Some Labour targets in Wales. There we go, Gower, they got that, Vale of

:19:03. > :19:05.Clwyd as well, Cardiff North as well. Preseli Pembrokeshire, we are

:19:06. > :19:19.waiting to hear. A quick look at the Conservative

:19:20. > :19:25.targets, they are all red. The narrative of the evening and the

:19:26. > :19:30.exit poll was pretty... I think old hold it has been a stunning night

:19:31. > :19:34.from Welsh Labour's perspective. The two results we still have to come

:19:35. > :19:40.are potentially significant. Stephen Crabb in Preseli Pembrokeshire, if

:19:41. > :19:46.he loses then there is talk he could be just ahead... Would that be

:19:47. > :19:53.personal issues, his personal troubles? What was in Playfair?

:19:54. > :19:56.You'd have to say it is that tide that has swept through. All the

:19:57. > :20:06.postmortems will be about the Welsh campaign. Alex Salmond has lost his

:20:07. > :20:11.seat! That is confirmed. Two of the biggest hitters of the SNP out of

:20:12. > :20:17.the picture, it is a bad night for them. Going back to Nick's point,

:20:18. > :20:22.the Conservative vote has gone up in Wales. It is just the Labour vote

:20:23. > :20:27.has also gone up. By almost double the Conservatives have got. That is

:20:28. > :20:30.what is happening in seats like % Pembrokeshire. If you think about

:20:31. > :20:36.the state of the parties, we have five party politics in the Assembly.

:20:37. > :20:42.If the Lib Dems can't hang on Ceredigion, we go down to a 2-party

:20:43. > :20:51.politics in Wales. That is significant. Ukip, 7ams in the

:20:52. > :20:55.Assembly, not a sniff anywhere near Westminster. The Lib Dems could be

:20:56. > :21:01.wiped off the electoral map for the first time in over a century in

:21:02. > :21:04.Wales. These are serious changes. It is a serious point about the

:21:05. > :21:11.Liberals. If Mark Williams can't get back in there. The most dangerous

:21:12. > :21:17.place to be is between Mark Williams and the coffee. He is extremely

:21:18. > :21:21.popular as an MP. He has had a lot of exposure because he has been the

:21:22. > :21:24.leader of the party and been on platforms which hasn't worked in his

:21:25. > :21:28.favour but bigger trends are in play here I think. It became about two

:21:29. > :21:33.people, the Conservatives said this is going to be about Theresa May and

:21:34. > :21:38.that speech at the beginning was about I, I, I, not my party. The

:21:39. > :21:43.Labour Party followed that by putting Jeremy Corbyn up. It has

:21:44. > :21:49.been that personal campaign, big guns so by Theresa May. It looks

:21:50. > :21:55.like she isn't actually comes so well from that. We are getting

:21:56. > :22:01.something. Alex Salmond is about to speak. Probably worth us taking that

:22:02. > :22:06.if we can. Let's hear in the constituency of Gordon.

:22:07. > :22:12.Can I thank the returning officer and his staff or the way they've

:22:13. > :22:17.conducted they can. And my fellow candidates for the impeccable way

:22:18. > :22:22.the constituency contest was conducted. Can I congratulate Colin

:22:23. > :22:26.Clarke on his victory. Gordon is the most amazing and diverse

:22:27. > :22:32.constituency in the whole of Scotland and I wish you well in

:22:33. > :22:37.representing it. He said I have been 30 years as a parliamentarian in the

:22:38. > :22:41.north-east of Scotland and that is true. It's been the privilege of my

:22:42. > :22:51.life to do that. I am grateful for these times, for the activists of

:22:52. > :22:55.the SNP who have made the many electoral success is possible,

:22:56. > :22:59.particularly to my long-standing electoral agent, Stuart Pratt, who

:23:00. > :23:03.guided me through nine elections successfully. I'm sorry, Stuart,

:23:04. > :23:09.that we couldn't make it ten together.

:23:10. > :23:15.APPLAUSE. I'd like to thank my wife, Moira,

:23:16. > :23:20.and the extended family for their forbearance over these last 30

:23:21. > :23:24.years. We have suffered some famous blows recently that frankly pulled

:23:25. > :23:30.the world of politics into perspective. Without the support of

:23:31. > :23:37.family members, none of us standing here could possibly conduct their

:23:38. > :23:46.affairs. I'd like to lastly reflect on the situation across Scotland and

:23:47. > :23:53.across the United Kingdom. I've lost ... The SNP have lost many great

:23:54. > :23:58.Parliamentarians this evening and that is a great loss for us but

:23:59. > :24:01.overall the SNP have won a majority of the seats in this country and a

:24:02. > :24:17.majority Avi vote. Something I suspect the Prime

:24:18. > :24:22.Minister would like to be able to claim in the early hours of this

:24:23. > :24:23.morning but may not be able to do so.

:24:24. > :24:41.APPLAUSE. Some things don't change. Over the

:24:42. > :24:45.last 30 years, the Conservative Party... The SNP might well find

:24:46. > :24:49.themselves in reduced numbers in the House of Commons but in a position

:24:50. > :24:54.of a very substantial influence indeed. And I know that my

:24:55. > :24:59.colleagues will seek to use that influence to keep the Conservative

:25:00. > :25:06.Party from power and to build a progressive alliance to take this

:25:07. > :25:15.country forward. And to avoid the calamity of hard Brexit. And,

:25:16. > :25:18.lastly, a word to all from all political parties and a word

:25:19. > :25:26.particular to my own campaign team. Just a phrase from an old Jacobite

:25:27. > :25:31.song. Laugh false wigs in the midst of your glee you've not seen the

:25:32. > :25:38.last of my bonnets and me. APPLAUSE.

:25:39. > :25:44.Very go, Alex Salmond leaving the political stage after 30 years as a

:25:45. > :25:46.parliamentarian. Here are the results. Colin Clark taking it for

:25:47. > :26:14.the Conservatives. Who would have thought we'd be

:26:15. > :26:22.talking about the demise of Alex Salmond tonight?

:26:23. > :26:33.That is a swing of 20% to the Conservatives. Let's have a quick

:26:34. > :26:39.look at another Welsh result. Montgomeryshire came in. A

:26:40. > :26:46.well-known figure in the party in Wales returned with a majority of

:26:47. > :27:11.9285 votes, Glyn Davies. A real two horse race there.

:27:12. > :27:19.Everybody else flat-lining and it is a swing of 5.4% from the Lib Dems to

:27:20. > :27:34.the Conservatives. So, that is Montgomeryshire. Glyn Davies, a big

:27:35. > :27:41.figure, a big Mayite? As we've seen with those rural seats, we've seen

:27:42. > :27:45.the big swing towards Labour but it couldn't really harm him in the end.

:27:46. > :27:52.So it was pretty comfortable and we saw that with Chris Davies as well,

:27:53. > :27:57.the kind of party that would have hurt him. Was he a big Mayite? I am

:27:58. > :28:04.trying to recall what he was saying in terms of his support for her. He

:28:05. > :28:10.was cautious. I recall a few interviews with him and he seemed

:28:11. > :28:15.happy with the way things were going. The picture from a Welsh

:28:16. > :28:20.perspective, what is the story in Wales? I think you can take your

:28:21. > :28:27.pick, I suppose, from the Labour angle. For me, we see all those

:28:28. > :28:31.potential Tory target seats being untouched. And the Conservatives not

:28:32. > :28:36.even coming that close to taking them. There are two factors here. I

:28:37. > :28:41.know we have two seats to go but there is the fact that the context

:28:42. > :28:44.at a UK level was incredibly favourable for Labour in the last

:28:45. > :28:48.two weeks of the campaign which allowed people who are wavering

:28:49. > :28:53.about voting Conservative to come back to Labour. Secondly, the depth

:28:54. > :28:56.and reach of the Labour Party in Wales historically is considerable.

:28:57. > :29:03.They have a pretty formidable machine, they know where their vote

:29:04. > :29:06.is, they appealed to the loyalty of people and in the last fortnight,

:29:07. > :29:09.when it became an issue between a kind of disintegrating Conservative

:29:10. > :29:13.campaign and a higher profile Jeremy Corbyn campaign with a good

:29:14. > :29:18.manifesto behind it, people came back to Labour and new people voted

:29:19. > :29:22.Labour. The latest on the BBC forecast from Professor John Curtice

:29:23. > :29:27.is that he is now predicting the Conservatives will be eight seats

:29:28. > :29:33.short of a majority. By the way, up in Scotland again, the leader of the

:29:34. > :29:36.Conservatives, Ruth Davidson, saying independence referendum to is dead

:29:37. > :29:42.in the water. It isn't hers to call, of course. It is difficult to see

:29:43. > :29:48.how an argument can be constructed on it on this basis. Losing this

:29:49. > :29:52.number of seats in this context, I think it will set out for a

:29:53. > :29:56.generation, I'd say. It is difficult to see how Theresa May can continue

:29:57. > :30:01.with those kinds of figures where she has lost the majority... We

:30:02. > :30:06.looking at a resignation in the morning? I can't see anything else,

:30:07. > :30:10.in all honesty. It would be a much greater surprise if we don't see

:30:11. > :30:14.Theresa May on the streets outside Downing Street at some point early

:30:15. > :30:15.tomorrow morning offering her a resignation. Let's talk to Hilary

:30:16. > :30:38.Benn. Can you hear us? Good morning. How are things looking

:30:39. > :30:42.for the Labour Party? Are you enjoying the red all? To see the

:30:43. > :30:53.amount of seats we have gained is very heartening. But it is looking

:30:54. > :31:03.like it could be the third election in a row of which we have been

:31:04. > :31:08.unsuccessful in. A TV; this election six weeks ago, thinking she would

:31:09. > :31:14.get a huge majority. She wanted the mandate for what she said was strong

:31:15. > :31:20.leadership and the British public have declined. It is a very personal

:31:21. > :31:24.rejection of Theresa May. Would you would you put down the success of

:31:25. > :31:29.the Labour Party going to Jeremy Corbyn? I think there is no doubt

:31:30. > :31:34.that his campaigning infused a great number of people. If you see the

:31:35. > :31:40.number of young people which has come out to vote. I think the Labour

:31:41. > :31:45.manifesto did the same. We took the seat here for there is a significant

:31:46. > :31:49.student population, but we have not made the progress we wanted and

:31:50. > :31:56.trying to win the general election. We will reflect on that. But the

:31:57. > :32:00.thing though is to assemble a new Parliamentary Labour Party and

:32:01. > :32:06.whatever Party comes out of this election result to haunt him for up

:32:07. > :32:10.account because we want to fate and the values in the sense of hope that

:32:11. > :32:17.we give people in this campaign. You are seeing it is maybe not the

:32:18. > :32:23.success it has not been hoped for. You have not been a huge fan of

:32:24. > :32:32.Jeremy Corbyn. Other questions over his leadership? Absolutely not. I

:32:33. > :32:38.just said, I believe that lots of people were confused by his

:32:39. > :32:42.campaign. He fought a relief spirited campaign. The games we are

:32:43. > :32:52.seeing are doing to the effort he put in. But they will be pointing

:32:53. > :32:56.out that we fought on a radical manifesto because we wanted to win

:32:57. > :33:01.the election and as things stand, we will not be in a position to do

:33:02. > :33:07.that. This is the third time we have lost under different readers and we

:33:08. > :33:12.need to reflect on that. But gaining seats is a great boost for the Party

:33:13. > :33:16.and given free of the opinion polls where, I think this will come as a

:33:17. > :33:21.pleasant surprise to a lot of people and proves that Labour is moving

:33:22. > :33:25.back up again. We have got to build a map and maintain the unity of folk

:33:26. > :33:31.as we have seen during the general election campaign. Do you expect

:33:32. > :33:35.Parliamentary colleagues to swing behind Jeremy Corbyn then? I think

:33:36. > :33:40.there is little doubt that because we have gained seats that is what we

:33:41. > :33:48.have got to see in Parliament. We have got the job to do. If TV May

:33:49. > :33:55.stays as Prime Minister, as she cobbled together a beer majority

:33:56. > :34:00.perhaps with the Democratic Unionist Party, it will be the job of Jeremy

:34:01. > :34:04.Corbyn to hold the Conservative Party to account. This is not the

:34:05. > :34:07.mandate the Prime Minister was looking for. European colleagues

:34:08. > :34:19.will be wondering what on earth is going on. She is saying she is not

:34:20. > :34:30.going to walk away, perimeter sleeve British industry. People depend on

:34:31. > :34:36.these trade agreements. I think the Prime Minister has got a lot of hard

:34:37. > :34:42.thinking to do. It remains to see whether colleagues will take the

:34:43. > :34:48.decision that they want something else or someone else in charge. We

:34:49. > :34:55.will look at some of the other results coming in. Returning once

:34:56. > :35:48.again for the Labour Party. We can look in detail at the other

:35:49. > :36:01.result we had earlier on in the evening. Plaid Cymru Before the

:36:02. > :36:29.former leader of the Party, but that did not work. -- put forward.

:36:30. > :37:56.Another recount coming. She was hoping not to have another.

:37:57. > :38:04.Extremely close. I have had the quote from someone on the Plaid

:38:05. > :38:20.Cymru, who says they are currently 103 ahead. Can people keep demanding

:38:21. > :38:28.recounts? Within reason. I think this is probably a cheque no. We're

:38:29. > :38:35.probably not too far off a result. It is a big result for Plaid Cymru.

:38:36. > :38:44.They have taken such a battering in a lot of seats. It is also big for

:38:45. > :38:54.the Liberal Democrats, because they will be wiped out in Wales of the do

:38:55. > :39:02.not win this. They were talking about eight seats. This was not

:39:03. > :39:08.really been targeted. In fairness, people sensed there was a

:39:09. > :39:15.possibility a week ago. But no one was stopping about Plaid Cymru being

:39:16. > :39:24.in the running. They have managed to get support from Tory supporting

:39:25. > :39:29.voters, but the harsh remain message may have split the vote. That is

:39:30. > :39:35.maybe why some people think that Plaid Cymru have done well. There

:39:36. > :39:51.maybe some of the picture, part of the melting pot. There could be a

:39:52. > :39:58.decision-making factor as well. But this could be very important for

:39:59. > :40:01.Plaid Cymru, because they could be facing another election free of the

:40:02. > :40:20.Lucy Santi case this year of the vote. Could the Seve Leanne Wood? It

:40:21. > :40:29.is problematic. This is recount number what? The second recount, so

:40:30. > :40:38.the third count of the votes. The staff are looking very cheerful. I

:40:39. > :40:46.may be seeing that rather sarcastically. The bundles are being

:40:47. > :40:50.redistributed and it will be taken again. It took about one hour last

:40:51. > :41:00.time. Maybe slightly quicker this time. Apparently, some votes for the

:41:01. > :41:09.Liberal Democrats had disappeared in the Labour and Conservative voters.

:41:10. > :41:14.Apparently, Plaid Cymru no have a lead of just about 100 votes and it

:41:15. > :41:20.is the Liberal Democrats who have called for this recount. We can go

:41:21. > :41:30.to Scotland. Everyone has gone home except our man. We're very proud of

:41:31. > :41:39.you. What a story in Scotland. That is always the way! I must thank the

:41:40. > :41:44.team I have here. I am not alone. I have the strong and supportive team

:41:45. > :41:50.keeping me going. Although they have failed to find me any cups of tea.

:41:51. > :41:58.It has been an interesting night. Nicola Sturgeon was here earlier.

:41:59. > :42:06.She has left. She did a round of interviews and posed for

:42:07. > :42:10.photographs. Six SNP MPs have been re-elected for Glasgow, they have

:42:11. > :42:18.lost one. But they have had significant losses. Two names jump

:42:19. > :42:23.out. Angus Robertson, the Party leader in Westminster, he lost his

:42:24. > :42:31.seat to the Conservatives, and Alex Salmond, the former leader of the

:42:32. > :42:37.Party. He also lost to the Conservative Party. Nicola Sturgeon

:42:38. > :42:44.was asked questions about Alex Salmond. She said she was bitterly

:42:45. > :42:49.disappointed. She said Alex Salmond had been her mentor and been an

:42:50. > :42:55.outstanding member of the Scottish parliament and an outstanding member

:42:56. > :42:58.of Parliament in Westminster. The positive spin she is putting on a

:42:59. > :43:05.bruising made for the SNP is that they are still the victors of the

:43:06. > :43:11.election in Scotland. She says it has turned out to be a disaster for

:43:12. > :43:22.Theresa May. She conceded there had been disappointing losses for her

:43:23. > :43:24.Party. The SNP are on 53, the Conservatives on 11. This will be

:43:25. > :43:31.the first time they have reached double figures since 1997 when they

:43:32. > :43:36.were completely wiped out in Scotland that they have represented

:43:37. > :43:41.more than one seat in Scotland. A successful night for them the side

:43:42. > :43:48.of the border. Labour on seven seats. Some progress, given that the

:43:49. > :43:57.only one heading into the election. See for the Liberal Democrats. Still

:43:58. > :44:04.more results to come. -- three. Thank you very much. One result for

:44:05. > :44:08.the Conservatives came in for all your work talking. They are no one

:44:09. > :44:20.you love and in Scotland. Thank you very much for joining us. What is

:44:21. > :44:31.happened to Ukip tonight? Questions for Ukip. Questions for the leader,

:44:32. > :44:36.Paul Nuttall. There was no great expectation that the woodwind any

:44:37. > :44:47.seats, but they have done quite well in elections here in recent years.

:44:48. > :44:53.The Assembly elections. 14% of the vote in the general election two

:44:54. > :44:59.years ago. Effectively the third largest Party, in terms of the sheer

:45:00. > :45:06.of the vote. But no, just 2%. What has gone wrong? Goodbye to the

:45:07. > :45:12.result two years ago. What we remember is that in many seats

:45:13. > :45:20.across the South of the country, they came in second place. We can

:45:21. > :45:28.look at the most extraordinary result.

:45:29. > :45:43.That was a strong showing for Ukip and the second part of their let's

:45:44. > :45:50.fast forward to this election, barely enough votes. Just showing

:45:51. > :45:55.you the results. 15% down on where they were last time. The reason for

:45:56. > :46:03.that, and we are seeing it time and time again, the two parties, Labour

:46:04. > :46:09.and Conservatives up, which is squeezing the three smaller parties,

:46:10. > :46:13.Plaid Cymru, Liberal Democrats and Ukip finding very similar patterns,

:46:14. > :46:22.people are not seeing any purpose to them now that we have the Brexit

:46:23. > :46:26.vote. My panel very much looking at that and how things have changed,

:46:27. > :46:34.particularly the Ukip vote. David Rowlands is with me. That used to be

:46:35. > :46:38.7000 votes, did you really think you'd get the hammering you've had

:46:39. > :46:44.to might? I think truth fairly we are the victim of our own success,

:46:45. > :46:51.as such. Last year we had a stunning success in getting the Brexit vote

:46:52. > :46:56.against all odds. And, primarily, it was the UK Independence Party that

:46:57. > :47:00.drove that and got that vote so we are coming off some stunning

:47:01. > :47:03.successes so one can expect that people... And people are now

:47:04. > :47:09.thinking and the media are part of this, of course, saying we are no

:47:10. > :47:13.longer necessary. During the campaign when people put that to

:47:14. > :47:18.you, why do we need Ukip because you've got the referendum vote, you

:47:19. > :47:21.said we are a party to stay but it doesn't look like voters are

:47:22. > :47:26.thinking that. Ever since I've been in the party, for 20 years, people

:47:27. > :47:36.have been writing us off but we are still here. And it will take us time

:47:37. > :47:42.to show that we have different policies to the other parties. What

:47:43. > :47:48.we have to watch now is exactly what happens with Brexit and if it isn't

:47:49. > :47:57.the Brexit people right across Wales voted for, don't forget it wasn't

:47:58. > :48:05.just 4%, it was 60-40. A lot of those people have gone towards

:48:06. > :48:10.Labour. Absolutely. So they were not wanting Mrs May's Brexit. Jeremy

:48:11. > :48:16.Corbyn has run a very clever campaign. And we are part of the

:48:17. > :48:21.victims of that but, quite frankly we've been a party that started

:48:22. > :48:28.right at the top of the ladder with 24 MEPs and we obviously gained 7ams

:48:29. > :48:34.at the last Assembly elections but we've never had that grassroots

:48:35. > :48:39.party that other parties have. Now we have to build on that. Quite

:48:40. > :48:45.frankly, I see within our own constituencies, I see that we are

:48:46. > :48:52.building that group of four voters. Your party, Plaid Cymru, has been

:48:53. > :48:56.very much squeezed by this, is it Jeremy or to reason debate, and the

:48:57. > :49:00.way they were held up by their parties. How damaging is that the

:49:01. > :49:07.long-term morale, do you think or to you except it's what happened this

:49:08. > :49:14.time? It has been a presidential style campaign and Plaid Cymru has

:49:15. > :49:17.always tried to make sure that our policies are put forward and it is

:49:18. > :49:21.difficult for us because we are the smaller party and we are squeezed.

:49:22. > :49:26.Look at the Scottish example, the SNP still doing very well but some

:49:27. > :49:32.big losses and for us to hold our three seats and we are also hopeful

:49:33. > :49:37.for Ceredigion, it is a success for us. They are recounting, aren't

:49:38. > :49:41.they? Darren Millar, it is Theresa May that started off that

:49:42. > :49:48.presidential type of campaign. It was I am doing this, I, I, I. Do you

:49:49. > :49:52.think that was a big mistake on the part of your party? I'd have liked

:49:53. > :49:58.to have seen a lot more focus, particular in Wales on a distinctive

:49:59. > :50:04.Welsh campaign and I think that we veered too much into personality

:50:05. > :50:08.politics... David Cameron was about the Conservatives not, I, David. And

:50:09. > :50:12.our success in Wales has been built on local campaigning with local

:50:13. > :50:15.issues about positive messages about what we do differently but we

:50:16. > :50:20.weren't able to get that message across in this campaign. Do you

:50:21. > :50:23.think in Wales Theresa May wasn't liked by traditional Conservative

:50:24. > :50:31.voters? I don't think so because we've seen record numbers of

:50:32. > :50:35.constituency votes. So it isn't that people don't like Theresa May. I

:50:36. > :50:40.think there has been a console and of the left, if you like, behind the

:50:41. > :50:44.Labour Party and behind Jeremy Corbyn which is why Plaid Cymru has

:50:45. > :50:49.been squeezed and the Lib Dems as well. Our share of the vote has gone

:50:50. > :50:54.up in many of these constituencies to the best results we have had

:50:55. > :51:00.since the 1920s. In the UK we don't go for share of the boat but we go

:51:01. > :51:04.for seats. We saw Theresa May at her account very strong, very stable

:51:05. > :51:10.again. We then saw a cavalcade going to London by what do you think is on

:51:11. > :51:14.her mind? Would you say she'd be in that position in 48 hours' time?

:51:15. > :51:17.Look, to reason is a strong leader but she will reflect on these

:51:18. > :51:23.results, the dust will have to settle, they are not all in... In

:51:24. > :51:25.this day and age, isn't a strong leader a collegiate leader not

:51:26. > :51:30.someone who puts their own name on the whole thing? She's won this

:51:31. > :51:36.election, we are still the biggest party in the UK by a long shot.

:51:37. > :51:39.Jeremy Corbyn has come second. He has beaten the very poor

:51:40. > :51:44.expectations that many people had of him at the start of the campaign so

:51:45. > :51:49.we have won this election. The fact is by the look of the numbers we

:51:50. > :51:53.won't quite have sufficient Conservatives to have an outright

:51:54. > :51:58.majority. That is cause for concern for me and I want to see how the

:51:59. > :52:03.dust settles over the next few hours. We have seen quite a few

:52:04. > :52:07.successful Labour MPs smiling from the television but, actually, it is

:52:08. > :52:13.quite a pickle for the Labour Party in Wales to sort out in terms of do

:52:14. > :52:19.we love Jeremy not? I don't think so. You use the word collegiate and

:52:20. > :52:24.it has been a collegiate effort by Welsh Labour, UK Labour working

:52:25. > :52:29.together. Just the way we handle... Working together? His photograph

:52:30. > :52:35.wasn't on any of the leaflets. We fought a Welsh campaign and quite

:52:36. > :52:41.right, too. You didn't have Welsh manifesto, we did and it has paid

:52:42. > :52:46.dividends. The campaign was very different, we did have a Welsh

:52:47. > :52:49.manifesto. Two years ago, did Ed Miliband's photo end up on the

:52:50. > :52:55.pamphlets of Welsh Labour? I don't think they did. I also think, and

:52:56. > :53:00.you're talking about a period of reflection for Theresa May, I think

:53:01. > :53:05.there is not too much reflection needed. They are still the biggest

:53:06. > :53:09.party but when a Prime Minister calls and unnecessary general

:53:10. > :53:13.election, it was a very cynical and arrogant move, I think, and says

:53:14. > :53:18.give me the 90 seat majority I need in order to force through a hard

:53:19. > :53:23.Brexit, you can't possibly recover from this. Cynical and arrogant?

:53:24. > :53:27.Nothing cynical and arrogant about it. We were in a situation where it

:53:28. > :53:33.was very clear... I'm going to stop you there because we will go to

:53:34. > :53:48.Hastings. Amber Rudd, let's see what the result is.

:53:49. > :54:15.Liberal Democrat, 1885. Ukip, 1479. Amber Rudd, the Conservative Party

:54:16. > :54:21.candidate, 25668. Independent, 412. The total number of ballot papers

:54:22. > :54:26.rejected was 97, the turnout was 70%. Therefore I give public notice

:54:27. > :54:33.that Amber Rudd is duly elected as a member of Parliament for the

:54:34. > :54:38.Hastings and dry constituency. -- Hastings and ride.

:54:39. > :54:49.That will be a great relief for her. It was very close there. She just

:54:50. > :54:54.got it, I think. Amber Rudd re-elected. Is she going back to

:54:55. > :54:59.Theresa May's front bench? Who knows if Theresa May will have a front

:55:00. > :55:03.bench. Is she a contender for the leadership if Theresa May resigns?

:55:04. > :55:08.What about her performance in the leadership debates? I think she did

:55:09. > :55:12.a decent job, in all fairness. It is always hard when you are deputising

:55:13. > :55:18.effectively for the bona fides leader. But I think Amber Rudd is

:55:19. > :55:22.somebody who has the potential to be in the running for the Conservative

:55:23. > :55:26.Party, should Theresa May resign and we do know that is the case but it

:55:27. > :55:32.looks increasingly likely, in my view. It is hard to see her

:55:33. > :55:36.surviving. She stood in that debate shortly after her father died, which

:55:37. > :55:44.got a lot of sympathy and attention. We must speak to Chuka Umunna, who

:55:45. > :55:50.has been reselected as the MP for his constituency. Is this a great

:55:51. > :55:54.coup for Jeremy Corbyn? I think it is a great night for the leader, I

:55:55. > :55:59.think it is a great night for the whole party. Of course, the big

:56:00. > :56:05.goal, the Labour Party was setup to pursue, wasn't just to represent the

:56:06. > :56:10.workers, it was to ensure that we get into government to make our

:56:11. > :56:14.values real. We don't know what is going to happen over the next few

:56:15. > :56:19.days on that front but that must be always our goal. We fought the

:56:20. > :56:23.superior campaign, it was hopeful, optimistic, energetic, Jeremy

:56:24. > :56:29.campaigns, but amongst the people in a way Theresa May didn't. Terrible

:56:30. > :56:34.manifesto, their dementia tax, it was a nasty and negative campaign

:56:35. > :56:37.against a hopeful campaign. And we have now seen the results and people

:56:38. > :56:43.have cast their verdict on that. When you go back to Parliament next

:56:44. > :56:46.week, can Jeremy Corbyn feel that all his people, like you, are

:56:47. > :56:50.absolutely within? I think we've come out of this general election

:56:51. > :56:57.much more united than when we went into it. An increased vote share and

:56:58. > :57:05.more MPs is a good achievement. As I said, a big step forward. You will

:57:06. > :57:09.definitely see him commanding the confidence of Parliamentary Labour

:57:10. > :57:12.Party, no doubt. Would you like to see him leading the Brexit

:57:13. > :57:15.negotiations because John McDonnell has suggested a minority Labour

:57:16. > :57:22.administration potentially. Would you be Constable with him going in

:57:23. > :57:26.to take on Europe? Yes. I always believe that Labour government is

:57:27. > :57:30.better than a Conservative government, minority or majority. I

:57:31. > :57:36.am absolutely clear about that. Not a huge endorsement. Don't you think

:57:37. > :57:41.you'd be excellent? Aren't there any words that flow from a Labour

:57:42. > :57:45.colleague? Absolutely. Let's be absolutely clear, it wouldn't just

:57:46. > :57:50.be Jeremy, it would be John, it would be the entire Labour team,

:57:51. > :57:54.including Kier. The team and its captain will do a far better job

:57:55. > :57:59.than a Tory one because we don't want to pursue an extreme, job

:58:00. > :58:02.destroying Brexit. I am absolutely clear that Jeremy and the team are

:58:03. > :58:09.the ones that can do that for this country. Do you feel Theresa May has

:58:10. > :58:12.to go now? Well, I think that is a question for the Conservative Party

:58:13. > :58:18.but there is no doubt about it. There wasn't a great clamour for her

:58:19. > :58:22.to call this general election. She called it for opportunistic reasons

:58:23. > :58:26.and has been exposed, and it has been a monstrous disaster for hire.

:58:27. > :58:30.Who knows what will happen to her and the question of who leave the

:58:31. > :58:34.Conservative Party is an issue for them not to me but I honestly think

:58:35. > :58:39.she comes out of this general election in a much weaker position

:58:40. > :58:42.than she went into it and if you look at the Brexit negotiations, is

:58:43. > :58:46.it in our national interest to have such a diminished figure leading the

:58:47. > :58:50.negotiations? I'm not social. Thank you for staying with us, they are

:58:51. > :58:55.clearing up behind you so I will let you go. Thank you very much and

:58:56. > :58:59.congratulations once again. Here in Wales we are still waiting for

:59:00. > :59:04.Ceredigion and Preseli Pembrokeshire so we will bring users as soon as we

:59:05. > :59:09.can. Just to let you know, though, it is coming up to 5am. If you are

:59:10. > :59:15.still listening on BBC Radio Wales, thank you for your company or night.

:59:16. > :59:19.It is time for me to hand over to good morning Wales and Felicity and

:59:20. > :59:25.Laura have made a dash for the radio studio where they join Lee for a

:59:26. > :59:32.very strong coffee and continuing coverage of election 2017. So,

:59:33. > :59:39.that's it, we say farewell to our radio listeners. It is just you and

:59:40. > :59:48.me here, Nick. I'll be here with you right to the bitter end. So, two

:59:49. > :59:52.results still to come in. Preseli Pembrokeshire, where it is really

:59:53. > :59:57.interesting here, the future of Stephen Crabb, the fourth

:59:58. > :00:02.Conservative Secretary and this intriguing battle in Ceredigion,

:00:03. > :00:07.where it is neck and neck with the third recount? The third count, two

:00:08. > :00:12.recounts between the Lib Dems and Plaid Cymru. Huge amounts resting on

:00:13. > :00:19.it for both parties. If Mark Williams fails to retained that

:00:20. > :00:21.seat, then it will be Wales without a liberal Democrat MP for the first

:00:22. > :00:42.time in over 150 years. and on in that interview, we just

:00:43. > :00:47.saw the Home Secretary just squeezing in. She would be viewed as

:00:48. > :00:55.a possible leadership contenders should Theresa May decide to step

:00:56. > :01:00.down. Will that happen? You look at the reasons why the general election

:01:01. > :01:05.was caused, it was specifically to increase the size of the

:01:06. > :01:21.conservative majority to go with Brexit. We can look at Dianne Abbot.

:01:22. > :01:28.She made them emotional speech. She has not been well for the last few

:01:29. > :01:36.days. I thank the returning officer and staff and the police. In times

:01:37. > :01:47.of great importance in the community, we relied on our

:01:48. > :02:00.dedicated public servants working. I also want to thank my agent, Barry

:02:01. > :02:06.Gray, I could not have found the more dedicated than brilliant

:02:07. > :02:11.person. She has taken me to my biggest majority of. I would also

:02:12. > :02:17.like to thank all the volunteers from my constituency who worked so

:02:18. > :02:25.hard and have also been working hard in other important seats tonight and

:02:26. > :02:31.contributing to what I think will be an impressive Labour result in

:02:32. > :02:47.London and in the country as a whole. The Conservative Party fought

:02:48. > :02:50.campaign characterised by the politics of personal destruction.

:02:51. > :03:00.Yet, the British people have seen past that and in Hackney, they have

:03:01. > :03:03.supported our labour positive promises of a positive campaign

:03:04. > :03:13.addressing the issues which concern people here in Hackney. Whether it

:03:14. > :03:18.is the NHS, the housing crisis, the benefits crisis. We fought a

:03:19. > :03:32.positive campaign here in Hackney and we have been vindicated. The

:03:33. > :03:41.said that if Labour fought this general election on a progressive

:03:42. > :03:49.manifesto, we would be swept away by a Conservative landslide. The said

:03:50. > :03:54.if we fought this general election under the leadership of Jeremy

:03:55. > :04:00.Corbyn, we would be annihilated. But I am proud to say even at this

:04:01. > :04:09.point, we have seen how the British people of all ages, of all classes,

:04:10. > :04:15.creeds and colours, have rallied to a positive message and rallied to

:04:16. > :04:26.the leadership of Jeremy Corbyn. Thank you very much. And emotional

:04:27. > :04:31.acceptance speech from Dianne Abbot, who had been ill the last few days

:04:32. > :04:38.and had a difficult campaign at times. Very emotional and happy in

:04:39. > :04:45.that acceptance speech. We will show you the result in fool from

:04:46. > :04:50.Monmouth. We have actually gone straight to the sheer of the vote

:04:51. > :05:24.for David Davis. 53%. In our merry-go-round of professors,

:05:25. > :05:36.George is no back. I was the picture changed? It is five o'clock in the

:05:37. > :05:41.morning. I want to make a fantastic analytical point. One of the last

:05:42. > :05:52.things the conservative government did was bring in English votes for

:05:53. > :05:57.English laws. What is is intended to do was to ensure there is a majority

:05:58. > :06:05.of English MPs from any MPs for legislation affecting England. We

:06:06. > :06:13.have seen that Conservative gains are happening in Scotland. They have

:06:14. > :06:22.lost ground in Wales. Everybody is talking about this kind of majority,

:06:23. > :06:35.but actually, it may well be that the majority to govern in England

:06:36. > :06:38.may actually will be higher than people are envisaging, because

:06:39. > :06:44.nobody is taking into account the government of England in all this!

:06:45. > :06:52.It is archaic, but we are in territory where it is going to be so

:06:53. > :07:03.Tate is second election looks increasingly inevitable. That is

:07:04. > :07:11.just one aspect of it. That gasp. We can do it. Forgive me, I do not know

:07:12. > :07:18.how much attention you have given to Northern Ireland. It has been a

:07:19. > :07:31.great night for the Democratic Unionist Party. Sinn Fein have also

:07:32. > :07:39.done very well. What we have is a potential block of allies for the

:07:40. > :07:43.Conservatives. We can look at the figures from the. The Democratic

:07:44. > :07:53.Unionist Party on ten. Sinn Fein on seven. SDLP down three. You're

:07:54. > :07:59.saying that this could be some deal cooked up between the Conservatives

:08:00. > :08:04.and the Democratic Unionist Party? They have social views that most

:08:05. > :08:11.people in the Conservative Party may find a boring. Traditionally, if you

:08:12. > :08:23.recall the immediate aftermath of the Brexit vote. There was that

:08:24. > :08:26.letter from Arlene Foster and Martin McGuinness saying they wanted

:08:27. > :08:32.Northern Ireland to continue basically it with it. The Democratic

:08:33. > :08:40.Unionist Party are not going to want to do a deal with Jeremy Corbyn

:08:41. > :08:50.because of his past support for the IRA in the eyes. As for the Brexit

:08:51. > :08:57.heart, I think the Democratic Unionist Party would be a real fly

:08:58. > :09:03.in the ointment over. We to the SNP? They have said they are not looking

:09:04. > :09:09.to go into any sort of formal coalition. They have said they would

:09:10. > :09:20.support a progressive government alliance against the Conservatives.

:09:21. > :09:29.I am sure Plaid Cymru, in the 1970s, the traded the votes for all sorts

:09:30. > :09:36.of things which would benefit Wales. I think, given the nature of the

:09:37. > :09:42.Liberal Democrats position on Brexit, they are far more likely to

:09:43. > :09:57.talk to Labour boat European issues rather than the Conservative Party

:09:58. > :10:04.Preseli Pembrokeshire. We finally have it.

:10:05. > :10:32.I been the returning officer to clear that the votes cast for the

:10:33. > :11:30.constituency are as follows. Party, 18302. Bob Philip, Welsh

:11:31. > :11:43.Liberal Democrats, 1106. The New Society of Worth, 106. Chris

:11:44. > :12:23.Overton, independent, 120 name. Philip Thompson, 17908. Owen

:12:24. > :12:35.Williams, Plaid Cymru, 2725. The number of ballot papers

:12:36. > :12:57.spoiled when having no official, zero. Nominating more candidates

:12:58. > :13:02.than entitled to, 30. Leaving a mark on which the voter could be

:13:03. > :13:24.identified, zero. Total number of spoiled ballot

:13:25. > :13:55.papers 59. SPEAKS WELSH. I hereby declare that

:13:56. > :14:03.the head Steve Intel should serve the constituency. The bundle for

:14:04. > :14:23.opinion we have the boat earlier. Stephen Tramp re-elected. -- Crabb.

:14:24. > :15:06.There will be a relief. That was not supposed to happen. That was not the

:15:07. > :15:21.planned winter days a called the selection. He got away with it by

:15:22. > :15:27.the skin of his teeth. I never heard anyone mention Preseli

:15:28. > :15:34.Pembrokeshire. I didn't. What is the definition of a long night? This is

:15:35. > :15:39.it. Stephen Crabb is clinging on. It is a couple of hundred in the end.

:15:40. > :15:50.The squeeze on Plaid Cymru wasn't enough. A number of very nervous

:15:51. > :15:57.Welsh Conservative politicians. The big beasts of the party in Wales.

:15:58. > :16:01.They were clinging on. Other than Craig Williams, they've lost three

:16:02. > :16:05.seats and the others have survived, just about, with a close shave for

:16:06. > :16:11.many of them. How different from that first bowl where there was talk

:16:12. > :16:17.of this tsunami of blue sweeping away... It has been a trend for the

:16:18. > :16:22.Pars number of elections now, Conservative gains in Wales. This

:16:23. > :16:25.must be the first time since... Help me out, since the Tories have gone

:16:26. > :16:32.backwards in the general election in Wales. Five in the morning I'm going

:16:33. > :16:35.to struggle but, I mean, we are in a position where the Conservatives,

:16:36. > :16:39.the contrast between Wales and Scotland is like night and day for

:16:40. > :16:44.the Conservatives. They had an excellent evening in Scotland. Is

:16:45. > :16:49.that down to Theresa May? Ruth Davidson is taking a lot of the

:16:50. > :16:54.credit for it. She is very clearly the leader in Scotland. We don't

:16:55. > :16:59.know who the leader is in Wales. They had such a falling out they had

:17:00. > :17:04.to bring a third person to be on the debate because they couldn't agree

:17:05. > :17:08.with each other! Ruth Davidson is head and shoulders above anybody

:17:09. > :17:16.else in Scotland, that isn't the case in Wales. Ruth Davidson is a

:17:17. > :17:20.very popular figure in Scotland. Again, no Conservative in Wales can

:17:21. > :17:26.compare with that level of popularity. On that, you mentioned

:17:27. > :17:30.Darren Miller, who stood in for the debates valiantly, let's get some

:17:31. > :17:33.reaction from here. Darren Miller, you haven't got a

:17:34. > :17:39.good strong leader in Wales in the way Scotland has. We do have a

:17:40. > :17:43.strong leader. If you look at this result... Really? You are the leader

:17:44. > :17:48.at the debate. If you look at this debate, we've gone up in terms of

:17:49. > :17:52.our share of the vote, more votes in these constituencies. The issue here

:17:53. > :17:56.is the fact there has been a very poor campaign from Plaid Cymru and

:17:57. > :18:05.the Lib Dems and the bird has shifted behind the Labour Party's

:18:06. > :18:08.vote, whose share has gone up. Let's put these results into context. If

:18:09. > :18:10.we knocked on doors and said who is the leader of the Conservative Party

:18:11. > :18:17.in Wales, people would get it right? I think... The leader of the

:18:18. > :18:21.Conservative Party in Wales is Theresa May. That is what our

:18:22. > :18:27.constitution says. That isn't how it is played in Scotland, is it? No, it

:18:28. > :18:33.isn't... And Ruth Davidson has a great following. What we've got to

:18:34. > :18:38.do is reflect on this result, look at the way we organise our party in

:18:39. > :18:43.Wales and also reflect on the campaign because I don't think it

:18:44. > :18:46.was distinctive enough in terms of having a Welsh platform. When a

:18:47. > :18:52.political party says reflects on the result, it often means change the

:18:53. > :18:56.leader. No, no, the way we presented ourselves in Wales. We didn't have a

:18:57. > :19:01.distinctive Welsh campaign. There was a distinctive Scottish campaign

:19:02. > :19:05.and a distinctive England campaign which doesn't work in the same way

:19:06. > :19:12.as having a Welsh campaign. We did it in 2015. Do you agree with that,

:19:13. > :19:16.that that was their loss in Wales or was there something else going on? I

:19:17. > :19:20.think we have to look at this as part of a wider picture. Politics

:19:21. > :19:27.has been totally unpredictable for several years now and this result is

:19:28. > :19:32.in line with other results, like in America. Voters reject the

:19:33. > :19:36.establishment and give us results we're not expecting. That's why I

:19:37. > :19:38.think Jeremy Corbyn has had such a great vote and why Theresa May

:19:39. > :19:47.started off strong that hasn't delivered in the end. Rejecting the

:19:48. > :19:50.establishment was voting Brexit, interpreted in different ways.

:19:51. > :19:54.Antiestablishment has been but Jeremy Corbyn, has it? Yes, and in

:19:55. > :19:59.Scotland to vote against the SNP. They would have been seen as the

:20:00. > :20:04.alternative in Scotland but they've been in government for ten years and

:20:05. > :20:10.they did deliver that massive block of MPs last time around. URL

:20:11. > :20:14.counsellor. It was said early on oh dear Jeremy Corbyn will scare Labour

:20:15. > :20:21.voters in the traditional valleys communities. On the ground in your

:20:22. > :20:28.area, do they love him or hate him? I met Labour voters who loved him

:20:29. > :20:32.and I met Labour voters who didn't. More importantly, I think there were

:20:33. > :20:36.lots of people who hadn't voted before or hadn't voted for a number

:20:37. > :20:42.of years who are motivated by Jeremy, and we talk about the youth

:20:43. > :20:46.vote that we haven't analysed yet. Perhaps the data isn't there about

:20:47. > :20:51.the youth vote and the importance of it. But a lot of people were

:20:52. > :20:58.motivated I Jeremy. I'd take this issue of over -- over

:20:59. > :21:05.personalisation in this election. Theresa May wanted to make it about

:21:06. > :21:09.her and the media I think the print media assisted that and painted this

:21:10. > :21:14.as a sort of good versus evil, in the most ridiculous fashion, really.

:21:15. > :21:20.And I think a lot of people have seen through that. Genuinely, the

:21:21. > :21:24.policies of the Labour Party have been welcomed by a large number of

:21:25. > :21:29.people and even my colleagues sitting next to me from Ukip, who I

:21:30. > :21:33.must feel terribly sorry for this evening, he agrees with me a large

:21:34. > :21:38.number of the Labour Party's policies for how they want to take

:21:39. > :21:44.this country actually worked well with our people. You've worked at

:21:45. > :21:48.the top of Welsh Labour and you must admit that many of the words within

:21:49. > :21:55.Welsh Labour was that he was far too left wing. It was the hard left. No,

:21:56. > :21:59.I think around his right. People either really liked him or didn't

:22:00. > :22:03.like him. He wasn't the best performer in the House of Commons

:22:04. > :22:07.but when he got out around the country, the huge numbers of people

:22:08. > :22:12.that came out to see him, quite extraordinary and we haven't seen

:22:13. > :22:17.stuff like that for a long time. Conversely, Theresa May went out...

:22:18. > :22:22.She didn't, really, she hid. Just picking up on the younger voters,

:22:23. > :22:27.the one thing he did for this campaign was energise younger voters

:22:28. > :22:31.to vote. We saw that massive surge from registration in the latter

:22:32. > :22:37.weeks of the campaign. We don't know how they voted, though. We can be

:22:38. > :22:40.pretty sure. That's one of the reasons we weren't expecting such an

:22:41. > :22:44.exceptional night for us because you can't be sure just because people

:22:45. > :22:49.have registered that they will vote. I think it shows large numbers of

:22:50. > :22:54.people who don't normally go out to vote did, particularly youngsters,

:22:55. > :22:58.as well as picking up the Ukip vote. Would you accept your party doesn't

:22:59. > :23:04.connect well with people under 24? I don't think so but what I do agree

:23:05. > :23:08.with is that the whole campaign was focused far too much on two

:23:09. > :23:13.individual personalities, and I don't think that that enabled us to

:23:14. > :23:18.get our message across about some of the other exciting things in our

:23:19. > :23:28.manifesto. Like what? Like the ?10 billion of cuts? There was plenty of

:23:29. > :23:31.policies in our manifesto. When you analyse individual personalities,

:23:32. > :23:37.and I hold my hands up, it was a negative campaign. Wasn't it also,

:23:38. > :23:41.though, a boat about austerity and whether austerity was working or

:23:42. > :23:46.not? And the numbers didn't support you? People vote for all sorts of

:23:47. > :23:50.complex reasons. The fact that younger people did appear to be

:23:51. > :23:55.coming out much more so than in previous general elections has

:23:56. > :23:59.influenced the result. I take my hat off to Jeremy Corbyn. He did get

:24:00. > :24:04.out, he engaged and seem to motivate people who hadn't voted before. He

:24:05. > :24:09.gave them a policy platform they wanted to vote for rather than

:24:10. > :24:13.trying to focus it on austerity and Brexit. That was a fatal mistake.

:24:14. > :24:18.She tried to make it a one issue election and it was never going to

:24:19. > :24:22.be just that. Let's see where that leaves Plaid Cymru. We've been the

:24:23. > :24:27.antiestablishment vote as well at various times. Do you feel that is

:24:28. > :24:32.what you are losing now, certainly in a Westminster context? This, very

:24:33. > :24:37.different in Wales. Speaking to Plaid Cymru supporters, they were

:24:38. > :24:41.voting tactically. That message of the personality politics did

:24:42. > :24:49.resonate and people did see it and use their vote tactically to support

:24:50. > :24:53.the anti-Tory or anti Labour MP. With these numbers, the three MPs

:24:54. > :24:59.we've got and hopefully we are still waiting for Ceredigion, with the

:25:00. > :25:05.numbers we're looking to have by the morning, those three MPs from wide

:25:06. > :25:09.Cymru will be quite significant and quite powerful potentially in any

:25:10. > :25:13.arrangement that can happen. Said aid work closely with Jeremy Corbyn?

:25:14. > :25:19.I think MPs from Plaid Cymru will do the best to use their leveraged to

:25:20. > :25:24.get the best possible deal for Wales. We've got to wait and see how

:25:25. > :25:29.it pans out. Sounds like they would work with Jeremy Corbyn. But they

:25:30. > :25:32.were support a Conservative government? With the numbers as they

:25:33. > :25:40.are, they are a strong voice, they will get the best possible deal, as

:25:41. > :25:45.we have done in previous elections. That is our duty to do that as Plaid

:25:46. > :25:51.Cymru. Darren Millar, your party have the most seats. A deal with the

:25:52. > :25:57.DUP? I didn't know what is going to emerge. I think the dust will

:25:58. > :26:00.settle. I think discussions will then, obviously, begin. Let's be

:26:01. > :26:06.under no illusions, the party with the biggest number of seeds is the

:26:07. > :26:11.Conservative Party. We have, I think, a mandate to try to form a

:26:12. > :26:14.sufficient number of MPs, bring enough people together so we can

:26:15. > :26:18.form a working government with a majority. How do you think the

:26:19. > :26:25.European commission is during this tonight? I've no idea, I'm sure

:26:26. > :26:30.they're tuning in with interest. The negotiations in ten days' time will

:26:31. > :26:35.be interesting. 11 days or ten days from today. I'm sure many of them

:26:36. > :26:40.are rubbing their hands in glee. I don't think it is a bad thing,

:26:41. > :26:45.actually, that we have a situation where all parts of the House of

:26:46. > :26:50.Commons will have to be listened to during a negotiation process to get

:26:51. > :26:55.the right deal. She could've done that two months ago, frankly! I

:26:56. > :27:00.think that might play into our hands in terms of getting something that

:27:01. > :27:05.can be cross-party and receive support across the board. I don't

:27:06. > :27:10.think we need a second referendum or anything like that which has been

:27:11. > :27:16.proposed by the Lib Dems. It is going to be very interesting. He

:27:17. > :27:22.will start negotiations on how much strength will they have? And then

:27:23. > :27:27.there is the question of Northern Ireland. The other 18 seats, those

:27:28. > :27:31.are the seats in Northern Ireland and we will need some resolution

:27:32. > :27:36.there if we are going to have any sort of stability and move into

:27:37. > :27:39.uncharted territory that is the European negotiations. The next ten

:27:40. > :27:45.days will be as interesting as the last few hours have been.

:27:46. > :27:49.Just draw your attention to what has been on the screen, Professor John

:27:50. > :27:56.Curtice is now predicting a hung parliament is likely. 616 seats

:27:57. > :28:01.declared, 34 to go. The Conservatives at the moment eight

:28:02. > :28:04.short of a majority. As we heard with the panel, we were discussing

:28:05. > :28:10.the future of Plaid Cymru. What happened to them in the selection?

:28:11. > :28:16.We are all waiting for Ceredigion. What I'd like to do is to show you

:28:17. > :28:20.why I think it again is so important for Plaid Cymru and for its leader

:28:21. > :28:24.Leanne Wood. Let's have a look at how Plaid Cymru have performed so

:28:25. > :28:29.far. Not a great night for them in their target seats. Number one

:28:30. > :28:38.target, Ynys Mon, where they were pushed back into third, Labour

:28:39. > :28:45.increasing their majority. In Anarfon, their majority cut down to

:28:46. > :28:50.92. Another target seat was Rhondda. A 9% swing from Plaid Cymru to

:28:51. > :28:54.Labour, increasing their majority. Let's have a look at how tonight has

:28:55. > :28:58.panned out in a historic setting for Plaid Cymru. Their election

:28:59. > :29:03.elections going back over the last few years. The high water mark, when

:29:04. > :29:10.they got over 15% of the vote in 2001, winning four MPs. Since 2005,

:29:11. > :29:15.they've been stuck, in a rut, on three MPs and not getting above that

:29:16. > :29:19.15% of the boat. What happen this evening? Not great news in terms of

:29:20. > :29:24.share of the vote and in terms of trying to grow the share of the

:29:25. > :29:30.vote. Very high results for Labour and Conservatives, Plaid Cymru down

:29:31. > :29:34.to 10% of the vote, their lowest share since 1997. At least back then

:29:35. > :29:38.there were four members of Parliament which is important. Look

:29:39. > :29:43.at the share of the bed. They are down from where they were two years

:29:44. > :29:47.ago at the moment with Ceredigion to go. Where you have a situation where

:29:48. > :29:53.you are not gaining seats in terms of your target seats, you are losing

:29:54. > :29:56.votes where you are already strong, nationwide, your vote is going

:29:57. > :30:01.backwards and you are stagnating in terms of sticking on three MPs, all

:30:02. > :30:04.of a sudden, you see why Ceredigion is important. We are hearing good

:30:05. > :30:06.things from Plaid Cymru there but there will be a lot of fingernails

:30:07. > :30:17.being bitten there. Hopefully result from Ceredigion

:30:18. > :30:21.shortly. It is coming up to 5:30am. We are just settling in here,

:30:22. > :30:38.actually, but there we go. A round-up of the news now.

:30:39. > :30:55.Morning. It has been strongly for the Labour Party in Wales. The 40

:30:56. > :31:00.seats have been the clear. This is how things stand at the moment. Only

:31:01. > :31:23.one seat left to declare. Ceredigion currently in the recount.

:31:24. > :31:26.Our political correspondent has been following the story of the night. He

:31:27. > :31:29.viz has round-up of the developments.

:31:30. > :31:32.For the Tories, a bad start - a prediction they would

:31:33. > :31:34.be the biggest party, but would lose seats.

:31:35. > :31:36.As Welsh results arrived, it became clear the Conservatives

:31:37. > :31:42.Early on, they lost the Vale of Clwyd.

:31:43. > :31:46.Marginal Cardiff North has a habit of backing the winner -

:31:47. > :31:51.this time it switched from blue to red.

:31:52. > :31:53.We had a great team, everybody was out, we were speaking

:31:54. > :31:59.to people, knocking on doors, having a very positive reaction.

:32:00. > :32:05.Welsh Labour were absolutely fantastic, but we work as one party

:32:06. > :32:11.Turnout was up on 2015 - the Tories increased their share

:32:12. > :32:15.of the vote, but so did Labour, and by a bigger margin.

:32:16. > :32:17.Ukip's vote crumbled, but the Conservatives couldn't

:32:18. > :32:23.capitalise in what was meant to be the Brexit election.

:32:24. > :32:27.I think the lessons of this election are not to be learned

:32:28. > :32:30.in the immediate aftermath of the results.

:32:31. > :32:32.I think something quite complex and interesting has happened.

:32:33. > :32:36.I don't believe there was a last-minute swing,

:32:37. > :32:39.I think this has been building over the past four or five weeks.

:32:40. > :32:41.Yes, the Conservative Party campaign did make some mistakes,

:32:42. > :32:46.but I think there's something more fundamental going on and it's just

:32:47. > :32:48.premature to start talking about exactly what led

:32:49. > :32:50.to the results that we're seeing this evening.

:32:51. > :32:52.Plaid Cymru has kept the three seats it had,

:32:53. > :32:55.but couldn't win targets like Ynys Mon.

:32:56. > :32:57.It turned out, I think, not just here but across Wales,

:32:58. > :32:59.to have been something of an impossible election

:33:00. > :33:05.Certainly in the last three weeks, I'm quite sure three weeks ago

:33:06. > :33:08.we were winning here on Ynys Mon, then of course we had the dramatic

:33:09. > :33:10.Conservative collapse, and obviously the Labour Party

:33:11. > :33:19.Recounts in Ceredigion keep hopes alive for Plaid there,

:33:20. > :33:21.and for the Liberal Democrats, battling to retain

:33:22. > :33:29.Wales now has 11 women MPs - a record.

:33:30. > :33:33.Welsh Labour leader Carwyn Jones played a starring role

:33:34. > :33:35.in this election campaign, but Jeremy Corbyn's supporters say

:33:36. > :33:38.the result is a vindication for him after all the criticism he's had

:33:39. > :34:01.Time for a break from politics, to have a look at the weather.

:34:02. > :34:17.A mixture of sunshine and showers. Some greatness. Best inland

:34:18. > :34:23.temperatures 18 Celsius. Tonight, some rain arriving overnight. But

:34:24. > :34:32.temperatures staying in double figures overnight. More rain to come

:34:33. > :34:38.on Saturday. We will recount the election results. We are waiting for

:34:39. > :34:46.one more seat declare it in Ceredigion. It will either stay with

:34:47. > :34:56.the Liberal Democrats or go to Plaid Cymru.

:34:57. > :35:04.Ukip have not got any seats. We can go back to the election studio. We

:35:05. > :35:14.will hopefully get the result very soon. A second recount. We can go to

:35:15. > :35:23.the former Secretary of State for Wales who has been successful and

:35:24. > :35:32.just held on. Congratulations. Very close. I am sorry, I cannot hear

:35:33. > :35:38.you. Someone is talking over you. Sorry about that. We will sort that

:35:39. > :35:41.out and get back to you. We can look at the United Kingdom results. If

:35:42. > :36:15.you are just waking up. Top note of possible coalition

:36:16. > :36:21.between the Conservative Party and the Democratic Unionist Party. This

:36:22. > :36:28.is the picture in Wales. As we have just been hearing. The Labour Party

:36:29. > :36:37.up three, the Conservatives stoned by the same number. We can try and

:36:38. > :36:46.speak to Stephen Crabb. Congratulations, but rather close

:36:47. > :36:48.for comfort. Really close. Clearly there is an remarkable election

:36:49. > :36:56.taking place up and down the country. I am very relieved to be

:36:57. > :37:05.re-elected again to represent my home community. What went wrong in

:37:06. > :37:11.the campaign? It is not very strong and stable. Would you admit it was

:37:12. > :37:16.rather weak and wobbly? I do not think is that a moment to be

:37:17. > :37:21.conducting a postmortem on the campaign. Clearly, Jeremy Corbyn and

:37:22. > :37:27.the Labour Party have had a good night. We have had the good

:37:28. > :37:31.campaign. People have responded to that we Jeremy Corbyn is spoken

:37:32. > :37:37.during the campaign and the have motivated a whole new lot of Labour

:37:38. > :37:42.voters to come out of the woodwork and add to the vote share. Your

:37:43. > :37:49.tactics are to be to focus too much on Theresa May and that did not seem

:37:50. > :37:57.to pay off. The people not warmed to their campaign. They do not think we

:37:58. > :38:02.were talking about the Party leader and the Prime Minister. We talked

:38:03. > :38:09.about some very serious issues facing the country. Clearly, the

:38:10. > :38:16.overhanging issue of Brexit had to be discussed. It was the reason the

:38:17. > :38:24.election was called in the first place. On the doorsteps, they were

:38:25. > :38:36.raising lots of other issues. Jobs, wage levels, aspirations. That is

:38:37. > :38:41.part of the crucial difference. The prediction is that you may be ten

:38:42. > :38:49.seats short of the majority, so he hung parliament could be inevitable.

:38:50. > :38:54.As Theresa May 's position is safe? Any claim of political turbulence,

:38:55. > :38:58.we should not be calling out for more turbulence and I will not be

:38:59. > :39:05.someone who is adding their voice to that. It is knee jerk talk about

:39:06. > :39:10.changes of leadership. Theresa May will reflect on the results. I have

:39:11. > :39:17.not fully seam for the emerging picture as myself, so I am not going

:39:18. > :39:23.to judge. She got this whole campaign completely wrong. She told

:39:24. > :39:28.a torn Brexit to strengthen her hand. She is no going to approach

:39:29. > :39:38.these 27 European Union countries very much we can. We wanted to bring

:39:39. > :39:43.greater stability into the country after the divisiveness of the

:39:44. > :39:47.European Union referendum. The motivations for the selection were

:39:48. > :39:54.entirely right and proper, to strengthen the position of the

:39:55. > :39:59.United Kingdom going into the most difficult set of international rig

:40:00. > :40:04.negotiation since World War II. Clearly, people wanted to these

:40:05. > :40:12.other concerns. And there will a whole load of new voters. They were

:40:13. > :40:18.less concerned with Brexit. It is early, but what is your gut

:40:19. > :40:25.reaction. Would you want to Visa me to stay on as leader, is visiting

:40:26. > :40:36.for her strength and determination to shame? Theresa May. I have not

:40:37. > :40:44.been focusing on that. I have not seen the arithmetic. It is a matter

:40:45. > :40:49.for the Party leader to reflect on. I do not think no is the rating for

:40:50. > :40:55.he the decisions. Thank you very much for joining us. Thank you for

:40:56. > :41:05.dealing with others during these sound troubles. There will be some

:41:06. > :41:10.soul-searching. There will be blood-letting on a massive scale.

:41:11. > :41:16.The Conservative Party has a history of being ruthless with field

:41:17. > :41:27.leaders. It was an unnecessary election. She gambled and the gamble

:41:28. > :41:34.has clearly field. She is deeply damaged. There will be a price to

:41:35. > :41:41.pay. Many of the conservative big guns appear to have felt left out.

:41:42. > :41:47.The felt pushed away by her special advisers. He did not know about a

:41:48. > :41:52.lot of the things which were going to appear in the manifesto. It is

:41:53. > :42:05.difficult to see if she could hang on. Or the lack of involvement, Liam

:42:06. > :42:12.Fox came here and that was first I may have seen. Philip Hammond. Have

:42:13. > :42:19.you seen? It was all about her personality. The presidential

:42:20. > :42:28.stable. I expect her to go. Even on paper they are the biggest part

:42:29. > :42:34.Party, -- Party, you want to build in a big majority, it has got to be

:42:35. > :42:41.considered the very whole victory and effectively a loss. You are not

:42:42. > :42:46.gaining anything. There will be a lot of anger within the Party. The

:42:47. > :42:52.problem is that because the Conservatives trigger Article 50

:42:53. > :43:02.before calling the election, they have created a timetable which is no

:43:03. > :43:07.beyond the control. Unless the 27 countries in the European Union are

:43:08. > :43:15.incredibly generous. Negotiations will begin in ten days. I think she

:43:16. > :43:21.is deeply damaged man. I do not think she can lead the United

:43:22. > :43:31.Kingdom in these negotiations. How do you do it in terms of organising

:43:32. > :43:37.anything. As Boris Johnson going to be cloned as Prime Minister as a

:43:38. > :43:46.result of this? You could be a way to stall it. If it was going to be a

:43:47. > :43:54.softer Brexit. If that I commend realises they went in to heart.

:43:55. > :44:04.Maybe the Home Secretary may come in. Whatever happens, do you think

:44:05. > :44:08.we are looking at a softer Brexit? I think it makes it more likely. In

:44:09. > :44:16.terms of a majority in parliament, even if they are talking to the

:44:17. > :44:22.Democratic Unionist Party, there are people in the conservative ranks who

:44:23. > :44:27.are unhappy with the heart Brexit and he will be greatly encouraged by

:44:28. > :44:35.this result in that sense. It makes a soft Brexit more likely. The

:44:36. > :44:43.danger is, because the trigger Article 50 deliberately, they held a

:44:44. > :44:47.gun to their own head and pulled the trigger, it may be too difficult to

:44:48. > :45:00.actually organise the United Kingdom position. I cannot stress how

:45:01. > :45:01.serious this situation is. All the old wounds over the Party in Europe

:45:02. > :45:15.could be reopened. Let's touch base in Ceredigion,

:45:16. > :45:21.Sara, what is the latest? I wish I could tell you the latest. There is

:45:22. > :45:25.no estimate of the time here. They are actually still physically

:45:26. > :45:30.counting the papers once more. They have so many bundles they have to go

:45:31. > :45:35.through and make sure every single one contains the votes that are due

:45:36. > :45:42.to that individual candidate. The Plaid Cymru majority was 150, which

:45:43. > :45:48.went down to 100 after the first recount, the secondary count now.

:45:49. > :45:52.Doesn't seem there are that many abnormalities or Ord votes here and

:45:53. > :45:57.there in the different bundles so it is a matter of just making sure

:45:58. > :46:04.everything is in order before getting a result sometime today.

:46:05. > :46:09.Today would be good! Thank you very much, that is the latest in

:46:10. > :46:14.Ceredigion. The significance of this seat, not just for Plaid Cymru but

:46:15. > :46:22.for Lib Dems, Leanne Wood, it is huge. Let's start with the Liberal

:46:23. > :46:27.Democrats, this might well be the death of the Welsh Liberal

:46:28. > :46:31.tradition, it sounds hyperbolic but that one party that dominated

:46:32. > :46:36.nonconformist Wales is in a position where it has had an absolutely

:46:37. > :46:40.appalling night. Third in Cardiff Central, that is terrible. If you

:46:41. > :46:45.just look at their results, they've been terrible, they've been losing

:46:46. > :46:49.deposits all over the place. They are in existential trouble. If they

:46:50. > :46:57.don't win Ceredigion, it's difficult to see what their future as a party

:46:58. > :47:00.in Wales is. Have we got a Lib Dem over there?

:47:01. > :47:05.Anybody looking particularly glum? No Lib Dems but we do have Valerie

:47:06. > :47:11.who can look at the whole scene. It is, really, quite an awful night for

:47:12. > :47:15.the Lib Dems, from that historic perspective, they've always been

:47:16. > :47:20.part of our political landscape. We thought 2015 was going to be the

:47:21. > :47:25.lowest ebb they would hit. They were reduced in the 2015 election but it

:47:26. > :47:32.seems at every contest since then, they've slipped. You are saying it

:47:33. > :47:36.is the antiestablishment vote doing well and they have often been seen

:47:37. > :47:41.as the antiestablishment vote but not this time. A big problem for

:47:42. > :47:45.them this time around is party machinery. They were wiped out in

:47:46. > :47:49.2015 so getting that operation to get your vote out... When you

:47:50. > :47:54.haven't got the system and people behind you it is difficult. We are

:47:55. > :47:59.seeing the Tories and pick up 80 plus % of the vote. The smaller

:48:00. > :48:05.parties are really being squeezed. How do we go forward, these ten days

:48:06. > :48:10.before the negotiations? David, what would you like to see happen now? It

:48:11. > :48:17.is a disappointment to us because if Theresa May had got the mandate that

:48:18. > :48:22.she wanted, in other words it very much increased majority, it would

:48:23. > :48:27.have strengthened her hand in the negotiations with Brexit. What we

:48:28. > :48:32.have to say is that it makes us, as a party, although we might not have

:48:33. > :48:38.any MEPs, it makes us significant, more significant. How? We would

:48:39. > :48:43.still be on the media, we will still be pushing for the sort of Brexit

:48:44. > :48:49.people voted for, and we will have... How do you know... We may

:48:50. > :48:53.not have MPs but we haven't had MPs in the past and we have still been a

:48:54. > :49:00.very influential party and we are still going to be a very influential

:49:01. > :49:04.party in this Brexit. Nigel has said tonight he may have to come back

:49:05. > :49:12.into the front line of politics. I am fascinated, we are all fascinated

:49:13. > :49:17.by all kind -- what kind of Brexit people want. They want a strong

:49:18. > :49:22.Brexited. They want to come out of Europe and not be like the Lib Dems

:49:23. > :49:26.who are saying we would have another referendum. That isn't what people

:49:27. > :49:32.want. It has shown exactly what the Lib Dems are about. They are not

:49:33. > :49:38.here to answer so let them be. We have beaten Lib Dems in almost all

:49:39. > :49:41.the seats, so... Darren Millar, who do Conservatives, who were

:49:42. > :49:46.remainders, where do they stand now that your party is any more fragile

:49:47. > :49:54.state, let's say, than it was 24 was ago? I think has the final results

:49:55. > :49:57.come in, you'll see we've got people within the Labour Party and, of

:49:58. > :50:01.course, the Conservative Party, both of which want to deliver on the will

:50:02. > :50:09.of the people to deliver Brexit. Which Brexit? Of course, and the

:50:10. > :50:13.arithmetic in the new parliament will mean that all sides of the

:50:14. > :50:18.house will have to be Rob Lee listened to and engaged with in

:50:19. > :50:21.order to take the deal forward. IQ admitting both sides were not

:50:22. > :50:25.listened to before cuisine and it will bring some unity in the country

:50:26. > :50:29.to get things done and. Are you admitting all sides were not being

:50:30. > :50:34.listened to before the selection? It is me accepting the result of the

:50:35. > :50:39.election and saying we've got to work with the cards we've been dealt

:50:40. > :50:43.with. It is in the interest of everybody in the House of Commons.

:50:44. > :50:47.The biggest party for the Labour Party is to get on and love each

:50:48. > :50:52.other. I don't think that will be an issue. Is not an issue? Seriously,

:50:53. > :50:58.it has been overplayed. Labour MPs not loving their leader, that is

:50:59. > :51:03.made up? I think a lot of MPs have been quite surprised about how well

:51:04. > :51:10.Jeremy Corbyn has done, how he has engaged and a lot of them owe their

:51:11. > :51:13.majorities tonight in some parts... So they will have to learn from it,

:51:14. > :51:17.will they? I think the party will move on and unite and who he points

:51:18. > :51:21.to the Shadow Cabinet will be crucial, if Theresa May or some

:51:22. > :51:26.other figure creates a government. There is work to do but it can be

:51:27. > :51:30.done. As euphorically said, you can see your party playing an important

:51:31. > :51:34.role in the future in terms of working with others, working with

:51:35. > :51:38.the Labour Party. Let's look at the context of this election. Minor

:51:39. > :51:43.parties being squeezed, in the context of that, we've done very

:51:44. > :51:49.well to keep three and hopefully we will keep Ceredigion, our best

:51:50. > :51:52.result since 2001 so we need to look at that in that context and use that

:51:53. > :51:58.platform to deliver for the people of Wales. And on the plan we had for

:51:59. > :52:03.Brexit. This is quite a gloss on this. Leanne Wood had a lot of time

:52:04. > :52:07.during the campaign as leader of the party. She was upfront throughout

:52:08. > :52:15.it, she was taking part in those debates. We will have to continue

:52:16. > :52:19.this conversation over breakfast. Is it really breakfast time? That's

:52:20. > :52:25.brilliant! No, it is coming to the end of our programme so let's go

:52:26. > :52:27.back to you for a final look at the picture in Wales.

:52:28. > :52:32.I want to show you what the patterns are, what we can see that has

:52:33. > :52:39.changed over the last eight hours or so. There is a fair bit more red in

:52:40. > :52:43.my map of Wales. Bring up the constituencies in order of how

:52:44. > :52:48.marginal they were. At the beginning of the night, a fair few blue ones.

:52:49. > :52:52.What happened during the night, those have flipped red. The Labour

:52:53. > :52:57.Party have managed to take the Vale of Clwyd from the Conservatives,

:52:58. > :53:00.they've taken Gower from the Conservatives and Cardiff North.

:53:01. > :53:05.They've failed to take any of their key target seats but that goes for

:53:06. > :53:10.Plaid Cymru not taking any of the target seats they were looking for.

:53:11. > :53:15.Let's show you the share of the vote as we are waiting for Ceredigion.

:53:16. > :53:21.50% of the vote for Labour, the highest since 1997 but it is a

:53:22. > :53:24.decent share of the vote for the Conservatives, the best they've done

:53:25. > :53:31.since the 1930s but it hasn't been enough for them to win the votes. If

:53:32. > :53:34.you combine Labour and the Conservatives, that is 84% of the

:53:35. > :53:40.vote. The highest share since 1966. Back then, you didn't have Ukip or

:53:41. > :53:48.the green so a great result for those two. Let's show you the

:53:49. > :53:52.difference between 2015 and 2017. A 6% increase for the Conservatives

:53:53. > :53:55.isn't half bad. But Labour has done so much better and in those areas

:53:56. > :54:04.where the Conservatives are trying to take away from Labour, Labour

:54:05. > :54:08.outperforms them. This is all coming down now to Ceredigion. If Plaid

:54:09. > :54:13.Cymru wins it, they are having a decent night, four MPs is a decent

:54:14. > :54:17.showing. But it means the Lib Dems are wiped off the face of

:54:18. > :54:23.parliamentary politics in Wales for the first time since 1859. We are on

:54:24. > :54:28.tenterhooks waiting for Ceredigion but, my God, I bet the members of

:54:29. > :54:30.Plaid Cymru and Liberal Democrats are biting their nails more than we

:54:31. > :54:35.are. I'm sure and we are still waiting

:54:36. > :54:40.for Ceredigion. We have our reporter there standing by. They are busy

:54:41. > :54:45.counting, I can just see the pictures. Final thoughts, then,

:54:46. > :54:49.gentlemen. Nick, what struck you about the story and narrative in

:54:50. > :54:56.Wales cuisine a dreadful night for the Conservatives, great for Labour

:54:57. > :54:59.and that was reflected in Wales. Labour telling me president numbers

:55:00. > :55:03.of young people came out in Wales which meant they could see the

:55:04. > :55:14.Conservative challenge in a lot those target seats in Wales and for

:55:15. > :55:22.them the comeback kid in the Vale of Clywd, Chris Ruane. A phenomenal

:55:23. > :55:26.result. For the Welsh Tories, the bitter recriminations and the

:55:27. > :55:30.postmortem into their campaign will begin at a local level and that will

:55:31. > :55:35.be reflected with what will happen at a UK level. And we heard from

:55:36. > :55:39.Darren Miller earlier, regretting it wasn't a very Welsh campaign. Was

:55:40. > :55:46.there a Welsh identity in terms of this campaign, Richard? Not by the

:55:47. > :55:51.Conservative Party and one of their contrast was the Labour manifesto

:55:52. > :55:57.and the Conservative manifesto. Labour was very Welsh focused,

:55:58. > :56:00.devolution friendly. There was very little in the Conservative manifesto

:56:01. > :56:08.about Wales. It was job done, they were concerned. For me, in terms of

:56:09. > :56:12.the British picture, it has been a personal humiliation for Theresa May

:56:13. > :56:16.and I do like to personalise it but that is what they did in because

:56:17. > :56:22.they personalised it, it is a personalised humiliation for her. We

:56:23. > :56:26.have seen the capsizing for Ukip, a party that got 3.9 million votes

:56:27. > :56:31.have been losing deposits everywhere. A very rough night for

:56:32. > :56:36.the SNP in Scotland. They have been honoured upward role since 2007 and

:56:37. > :56:43.have taken a big hit tonight. It'll be interesting to see how they come

:56:44. > :56:47.back from that. Conversely, a personal vindication for Jeremy

:56:48. > :56:51.Corbyn. This is vilified figure has led Labour to a result that I don't

:56:52. > :56:58.think anybody dreams they could have hoped for five weeks ago. It is a

:56:59. > :57:02.very differentiated figure but there is some big scalps after that

:57:03. > :57:05.evoked. And if we think of the Brexit picture, Nick, the whole

:57:06. > :57:11.point of this election to strengthen Theresa May's hand, the negotiations

:57:12. > :57:19.start in 11 days and who will be there at the table? It is an

:57:20. > :57:23.unprecedented situation, the questions that hang around this. The

:57:24. > :57:29.clock was ticking before the general election so what will they do? If

:57:30. > :57:33.she stays, she limps on but her credibility has been dented. What if

:57:34. > :57:37.they change it? How does that affect the talks? Is there an attempt made

:57:38. > :57:44.to go to the other EU leaders and say can you put this on hold?

:57:45. > :57:50.Another unprecedented situation. Will she survive? Will she be Prime

:57:51. > :57:55.Minister? She presented herself as the responsible figure but in effect

:57:56. > :57:59.she has been a gambler taking a huge gamble, triggering Article 50 and

:58:00. > :58:09.went to the country thinking she'd get a majority in 1931 or 1935

:58:10. > :58:14.territory. It is a humiliation and I cannot see how she survives. Do you

:58:15. > :58:19.agree? It is difficult and we are into hung parliament territory.

:58:20. > :58:25.Fascinating evening, thank you for your company throughout the night.

:58:26. > :58:30.We might be back here very soon, who knows, let us not say that yet. It

:58:31. > :58:34.is now approaching 6am, nearly time for us to hand you over to David

:58:35. > :58:40.Dimbleby and our BBC network colleagues. To sum up, the picture

:58:41. > :58:43.in Wales, Labour gains three seats all from the Conservatives, Galer,

:58:44. > :58:48.Vale of Clwyd and Cardiff North, bringing their total to 28 seats.

:58:49. > :58:54.Conservatives are down to eight and we are still waiting for that final

:58:55. > :58:58.Welsh result, heritage, weather has a second we can. Very tired between

:58:59. > :59:04.Plaid Cymru and the Lib Dems. If Plaid Cymru take it, they move up

:59:05. > :59:07.from three to four seats and wipe out the Lib Dems Parliamentary

:59:08. > :59:15.presence in Wales. We will bring you the result on BBC Radio Wales. From

:59:16. > :59:18.all of us here, thanks for your company here, and good morning.