Part Three

:00:00. > :00:00.from me, David Dimbleby, here's the news witty Louise Minchin.

:00:00. > :00:07.Theresa May's decision to call a snap election has backfired

:00:08. > :00:09.as the UK wakes up to a hung parliament.

:00:10. > :00:11.The Conservatives have lost their majority,

:00:12. > :00:17.Labour has done better than expected.

:00:18. > :00:20.And Jeremy Corbyn has called for Theresa May to resign.

:00:21. > :00:22.The Prime Minister says the country needs stability.

:00:23. > :00:25.The night saw both Alex Salmond and Nick Clegg lose their seats.

:00:26. > :00:26.Our political correspondent Tom Bateman's report

:00:27. > :00:37.A political gamble - the hope that she would transform

:00:38. > :00:41.the Tories' fragile advantage in Parliament with a huge win.

:00:42. > :00:46.But the smiles of the campaign trail have vanished.

:00:47. > :00:49.Forecasts suggest the Conservatives may end up even worse off,

:00:50. > :00:54.If, as the indications have shown, if this is correct,

:00:55. > :00:57.that the Conservative Party has won the most seats, and probably

:00:58. > :01:02.the most votes, then it will be incumbent on us to ensure we have

:01:03. > :01:07.that period of stability, and that is what we will do.

:01:08. > :01:10.And you can see what the Labour leader makes

:01:11. > :01:15.A man whose campaign confounded many expectations.

:01:16. > :01:17.Beaming smiles, with Labour on course for a far better

:01:18. > :01:23.The Prime Minister called the election because

:01:24. > :01:29.Well, the mandate she's got is lost Conservative seats,

:01:30. > :01:33.lost votes, lost support, and lost confidence.

:01:34. > :01:37.I would have thought that is enough to go, actually.

:01:38. > :01:40.In Battersea, Labour have ousted a government

:01:41. > :01:57.Labour held Cambridge, increasing their majority by 12,000. They took

:01:58. > :01:59.Peterburg from the Conservatives, boosting their share of the vote by

:02:00. > :02:09.12%. The Home Secretary Amber Rudd

:02:10. > :02:11.only just scraped home In Sheffield, the Lib Dem's former

:02:12. > :02:19.leader Nick Clegg has lost his seat. I, of course, have encountered this

:02:20. > :02:21.evening something that many people have encountered before tonight,

:02:22. > :02:23.and I suspect many people will encounter after tonight,

:02:24. > :02:26.which is in politics you live by the sword and you

:02:27. > :02:29.die by the sword. The night began with

:02:30. > :02:41.a projection - the exit poll. This morning, with most seats

:02:42. > :02:43.counted, the BBC forecasts the Conservatives as the largest party

:02:44. > :02:51.but short of an overall majority. The SNP have lost on a disappointing

:02:52. > :02:59.night. The SNP have lost big names

:03:00. > :03:01.on a disappointing night, compared with their Scottish

:03:02. > :03:03.landslide two years ago. Their Deputy Leader Angus Robertson

:03:04. > :03:06.was ousted by the Conservatives and their former leader Alex Salmond

:03:07. > :03:08.lost his seat too. Now one of Theresa May's own MPs

:03:09. > :03:11.is laying the blame on her. I think she's in a very

:03:12. > :03:13.difficult place. She's a remarkable and a very

:03:14. > :03:16.talented woman, and she doesn't shy from difficult decisions,

:03:17. > :03:18.but she now has to The festival of democracy has been

:03:19. > :03:29.on full show, as have the upsets. Theresa May arrived at party HQ

:03:30. > :03:35.knowing there are those who say this result should be the end of her

:03:36. > :03:38.Premiership. Now dawn breaks on renewed political uncertainty. Mrs

:03:39. > :03:44.may wanted a strong, stable and triumphant return to Westminster

:03:45. > :03:45.ahead of Brexit talks. She has ended up weakened, with fewer MPs and

:03:46. > :03:49.calls for her to go. In Northern Ireland, both the SDLP

:03:50. > :03:52.and the Ulster Unionist Party It was a successful night

:03:53. > :03:57.for the largest parties. The Democratic Unionist Party won

:03:58. > :04:00.ten seats, Sinn Fein won seven seats but will continue to abstain

:04:01. > :04:02.from sitting in Parliament. The result could see the DUP play

:04:03. > :04:06.a key role in any potential coalition negotiations

:04:07. > :04:10.with the Conservative Party. In Wales, the Labour Party had

:04:11. > :04:13.a strong night, taking back a number The results represent

:04:14. > :04:18.a blow to the Tories, who had hoped to make

:04:19. > :04:21.gains in pro-Brexit areas. Plaid Cymru won four seats,

:04:22. > :04:24.and the Liberal Democrats Meanwhile, Ukip have failed to win

:04:25. > :04:31.any seats in Parliament. Their share of the vote

:04:32. > :04:34.collapsed across Britain, and their leader Paul Nuttall came

:04:35. > :04:38.third in Boston and Skegness. The Green Party remain

:04:39. > :04:42.unchanged, with one seat. The party co-leader Caroline Lucas,

:04:43. > :04:45.who held Brighton Pavilion, said the Greens will never support

:04:46. > :04:49.a Tory government. The Greens are forecast

:04:50. > :04:53.to win 2% of the vote. As the markets across Europe open

:04:54. > :04:57.this morning, traders will react They are bracing themselves for a

:04:58. > :05:05.volatile day. Overnight, sterling suffered one

:05:06. > :05:07.of its biggest falls since January, sinking at one point

:05:08. > :05:09.to a low of almost 2% against the dollar and the euro

:05:10. > :05:12.after the initial exit poll. Let's take a look at this morning's

:05:13. > :05:25.weather, with Matt Taylor. Good morning, well, weather-wise, a

:05:26. > :05:29.brighter day across the UK. A bit more sunshine. A few showers so

:05:30. > :05:33.don't leave home without the umbrella. Showers across western

:05:34. > :05:37.England, Wales and Northern Ireland, working eastwards, into central and

:05:38. > :05:41.eastern England for the late morning and afternoon. Some heavy and

:05:42. > :05:48.thundery. Scotland starts work at turning more dry and right. Cloudy

:05:49. > :05:53.in the north and east. Temperatures 17-22, tonight the rain will spread

:05:54. > :05:55.in from the west across the country. Saturday, a wet start to the weekend

:05:56. > :05:59.across western areas. Time now to cross

:06:00. > :06:21.over to Huw Edwards. A very good morning from the BBC

:06:22. > :06:25.Election Centre. It has been a long and very eventful night. Let me tell

:06:26. > :06:29.you, it's going to be a long and very eventful day as well, because

:06:30. > :06:36.nothing has turned out as people expected. Even until that late hour

:06:37. > :06:37.of 9.55 last night. If you are just joining us on BBC One, let me show

:06:38. > :06:46.you the state of play. The screen on the Houses of

:06:47. > :06:51.Parliament tells us clearly that Theresa May has lost the majority

:06:52. > :06:58.she went into this election with. We are looking at a hung parliament.

:06:59. > :07:03.326 is the finishing line. That is the magic number you need to be in a

:07:04. > :07:07.majority in the House of Commons. But the Conservatives will not be

:07:08. > :07:11.there. It is, however, likely that if they combined with the Unionists

:07:12. > :07:16.in Northern Ireland, they can get past the finishing line in some

:07:17. > :07:21.form. But believe me, we are nowhere near that yet. A few results to

:07:22. > :07:24.come. I will introduce my guests. Let's say this mildly, there is

:07:25. > :07:30.quite a lot for us to talk about today. With me, Norah O'Donnell, the

:07:31. > :07:35.former Cabinet Secretary. It is good to have you with us. -- Lord

:07:36. > :07:41.O'Donnell. You can shed light on the turmoil going on in Downing Street

:07:42. > :07:44.today when they think about that permutations. Jo Coburn, my

:07:45. > :07:49.Westminster colleague, giving us analysis and bringing us up to date

:07:50. > :07:53.with what is going on. And Andrew Marr, of the BBC, is with us. We are

:07:54. > :08:04.going to Richmond Park for the declaration first.

:08:05. > :08:09.I declare the total number of votes is as follows. Zac Goldsmith,

:08:10. > :08:33.Conservative Party, 28,000 588. Peter Joule, Ukip, 426. Sarah Olney,

:08:34. > :09:16.Liberal Democrats, 28,543. The total number of ballot papers

:09:17. > :09:22.rejected was 131. Because votes were given for more than one candidate,

:09:23. > :09:35.19. Because they were unmarked or void, 112. The turnout was 79.3%. I

:09:36. > :09:38.hereby declare that the said Zac Goldsmith is Julie elected as Member

:09:39. > :09:42.of Parliament for the Richmond Park constituency.

:09:43. > :09:56.A majority of just 45, a very high turnout of 79%. Sarah Olney, of the

:09:57. > :10:01.Lib Dems, who won the by-election, pipped at the post by Zac Goldsmith,

:10:02. > :10:07.who is re-elected in this part of South London. I just want to start

:10:08. > :10:12.by thanking the returning officer for organising what was a very

:10:13. > :10:15.difficult process. And all of the counters, many of whom are still

:10:16. > :10:20.here today. You will be delighted to know that is the end of the

:10:21. > :10:27.counting. I am very grateful to them and the returning officer for their

:10:28. > :10:30.extremely hard work. They have ensured the election has been safe

:10:31. > :10:36.and effective and smooth, and we are very grateful to them. Before I talk

:10:37. > :10:41.about my own team, I want to pay tribute to my fellow candidates,

:10:42. > :10:46.particularly Sarah Olney, my predecessor. That sounds a bit odd,

:10:47. > :10:52.but my predecessor. And my fellow candidate Peter, who is not here

:10:53. > :10:57.now, but a pleasure meeting him and Cate and I wish all three the best.

:10:58. > :11:03.I cannot stand here and not thank my own campaign team. People have given

:11:04. > :11:07.up five weeks, night and day, just simply from the goodness of their

:11:08. > :11:13.heart. Working their fingers to the bone to deliver this result. This is

:11:14. > :11:18.their results. The fact it is such a narrow margin, I think, means

:11:19. > :11:23.effectively that this is owned by all of us. It is extraordinary and I

:11:24. > :11:26.am just so grateful to all of you. But more than anything, I am

:11:27. > :11:31.grateful to my constituents for having put their trust in me again.

:11:32. > :11:38.I hope they know I will never let them down. We have the most special

:11:39. > :11:41.community in the world. Representing this community is an unimaginable,

:11:42. > :11:46.incalculable honour, and something I am so excited about doing over the

:11:47. > :11:49.next five years. We have challenges, but so many opportunities, and I

:11:50. > :11:54.look forward to working with all of you to ensure that we take advantage

:11:55. > :12:00.of those opportunities. Thank you very much indeed. Zac Goldsmith,

:12:01. > :12:06.returned as the Conservative MP for Richmond Park. A few words from

:12:07. > :12:08.Sarah Olney, the loser by 45 votes. He won the by-election there just a

:12:09. > :12:18.few months ago. Back to the studio. That is within the results we were

:12:19. > :12:24.forecasting. We now have the Conservatives on a forecast of 318,

:12:25. > :12:30.eight short of the 326 needed. Let me underline again at 7.13 on Friday

:12:31. > :12:35.morning that Theresa May has lost the majority she went into the

:12:36. > :12:40.election with, against lots of the expectations. So the day will really

:12:41. > :12:43.be focusing on what kind of government we are looking at, and

:12:44. > :12:48.indeed whether Theresa May will be heading that government. Andrew

:12:49. > :12:51.Marr, your thoughts at this stage. The second most important question

:12:52. > :12:54.is does Theresa May stay as Prime Minister? She has met Cabinet

:12:55. > :12:58.colleagues already this morning and the advice strongly is she has a

:12:59. > :13:04.duty to stay and hold the Government together. You cannot go into a Tory

:13:05. > :13:08.party leadership contest with the hullabaloo and mayhem that would

:13:09. > :13:11.involve right before Brexit negotiations. Which leads me to the

:13:12. > :13:18.single most important question, what happens to the Brexit talks? A Prime

:13:19. > :13:21.Minister has no -- who has no authority in the House of Commons,

:13:22. > :13:26.to deliver the kind of compromise she is going to be asked for, that

:13:27. > :13:32.is why we had the election, and now she has two govern with almost

:13:33. > :13:36.certainly the DUP from Northern Ireland. The DUP's Arlene Foster

:13:37. > :13:41.takes a very different view on things like immigration control, the

:13:42. > :13:44.single market, hard borders. I have talked to senior members of the

:13:45. > :13:48.Conservative government who don't believe it will be possible to

:13:49. > :13:53.deliver the kind of Brexit deal they have been planning in these new

:13:54. > :13:58.circumstances, because they have a coalition in the House of Commons

:13:59. > :14:08.which includes everyone from Tory Remainers like Anna Soubry and Ken

:14:09. > :14:12.Clarke, the DUP, and very hard-core Brexiteers... How does that

:14:13. > :14:15.coalition deliver a clear negotiating position? It probably

:14:16. > :14:21.means a period of very, very slow-moving negotiation, and no deal

:14:22. > :14:27.possibly, and certainly not a hard Brexit or the soft Brexit that many

:14:28. > :14:31.people think can emerge out of this. Gus O'Donnell, I am wondering, your

:14:32. > :14:36.successor as Cabinet Secretary today, looking at this set of

:14:37. > :14:42.results... Clearly there is enormous uncertainty. What is going on there

:14:43. > :14:47.right now? I am pleased because, from the lessons of 2010 and the

:14:48. > :14:52.coalition, we have always prepared for all possible outcomes. So they

:14:53. > :14:55.will have gone through this one. The numbers here are particularly

:14:56. > :15:00.difficult. It's quite clear. It looks to me we are talking about

:15:01. > :15:06.minority government. We are talking about a situation where the Prime

:15:07. > :15:10.Minister, this is very important, the Prime Minister has to stay as

:15:11. > :15:14.Prime Minister for now. Short-term, it's very important that we have a

:15:15. > :15:19.Prime Minister. Those negotiations on Brexit will be nonexistent. And I

:15:20. > :15:24.think the reason we need to think about this is, think of it from the

:15:25. > :15:29.other point of view. It takes two sides to negotiate. The EU I going

:15:30. > :15:34.to say, well, who are we negotiating with? Will this Prime Minister be

:15:35. > :15:40.around? What is their position? Fall of the good reasons Andrew said, I

:15:41. > :15:45.don't think there is a position. What the EU is very good at is lots

:15:46. > :15:48.of process and no substance. There will be view was watching and

:15:49. > :15:52.thinking, hang on a second, Article 50 has been triggered and there is a

:15:53. > :15:54.strict timetable. So there is a limit to how much you can delay and

:15:55. > :16:10.fudge? Exactly. So, eventually we will get

:16:11. > :16:17.to that two-year deadline, which can only be extended if the 27 agree on

:16:18. > :16:21.it, starts to bite. But that is a very asymmetric process. It is

:16:22. > :16:26.really good for the 27, because they will threaten us with, OK, no deal,

:16:27. > :16:30.you're out, WTO terms, that's very bad for us. So this is not good news

:16:31. > :16:36.for our Brexit negotiations. One of the ironies about the campaign was,

:16:37. > :16:41.it was supposed to be the Brexit election, that is how Theresa May

:16:42. > :16:45.describe it, she wanted to have an even bigger mandate. But actually,

:16:46. > :16:48.until the very end, the last few days, we heard very little about

:16:49. > :16:53.Brexit, we heard very little about the shape of the Brexit negotiations

:16:54. > :16:58.which Theresa May wanted to take the country towards. Yes, coming out of

:16:59. > :17:03.the single market, yes, perhaps coming out of the customs union,

:17:04. > :17:07.too. So, in a way, the 27 would not know exactly what was on the table.

:17:08. > :17:12.And now, Theresa May will have to rethink on all sorts of levels, if

:17:13. > :17:15.she stays, which she will have to, for the short-term, what is she

:17:16. > :17:19.going to do within her own team? There will be those who say, you

:17:20. > :17:22.need to listen to us a little more carefully. May be Philip Hammond,

:17:23. > :17:28.there were rumours she was going to reshuffle him out of the Cabinet -

:17:29. > :17:33.that looks very unlikely now. Boris Johnson may have a bigger say. That

:17:34. > :17:36.small team around Theresa May is not going to be able to wield the kind

:17:37. > :17:41.of power and control... That system has gone. I think so, without a

:17:42. > :17:46.shadow of a doubt, and that is going to have a big impact on the

:17:47. > :17:49.negotiations. And I think the most important single cabinet minister

:17:50. > :17:55.now is David Davis... Mr Corbyn is just emerging... This is in north

:17:56. > :18:07.London, of course, where Mr Corbyn lives. Just waving and looking, I

:18:08. > :18:11.think it is fair to say, Andrew Marr, rather pleased with things,

:18:12. > :18:16.although we must underline, they actually lost the election! They

:18:17. > :18:21.did. All the way through, Jeremy Corbyn slightly undercooked the

:18:22. > :18:25.triumphalist bit, and people like that, he comes across as quite

:18:26. > :18:32.humble, slightly surprised that where he is and so far -- so forth,

:18:33. > :18:36.that is part of what has gone so well in this election for him. I was

:18:37. > :18:41.going to say, David Davis, as the Brexit minister, he is the one who

:18:42. > :18:45.understands how far these negotiations have got, what the

:18:46. > :18:49.Brexit department looks like, what the really difficult issues are.

:18:50. > :18:53.From now on, it's going to be are really, really hard business of

:18:54. > :18:56.party management, on the one hand in the House of Commons, while trying

:18:57. > :19:01.to do these negotiations, on the other. It means every single time

:19:02. > :19:05.the EU comes to the British side and says, we can give you this or that,

:19:06. > :19:12.we have to ask ourselves, will the Conservative Party where it? I have

:19:13. > :19:16.been covering elections since 1983. If there is one really predictable

:19:17. > :19:19.headline, it is, Conservative Party at war over Europe. It has been the

:19:20. > :19:29.case all the way through and it still is. Just something on the

:19:30. > :19:32.logistics of this morning. So, Theresa May, if she agrees to stay

:19:33. > :19:37.on as the Prime Minister, and you seem to be suggesting that that

:19:38. > :19:40.would be the will within government, for however long that is, will there

:19:41. > :19:45.be a visit to the Palace, all the kind of stuff we see normally on the

:19:46. > :19:50.morning after an election, will that happen? Well, it is not certain one

:19:51. > :19:53.way or the other. If I were Cabinet Secretary, I would be advising the

:19:54. > :19:57.Prime Minister to go to the Palace and explain to the Queen the

:19:58. > :20:01.situation and explain how she is going to manage at least the next

:20:02. > :20:08.few days and the run-up to the Queen's Speech. Issue going to try

:20:09. > :20:11.and go to the House? The key in our political system is, who has got the

:20:12. > :20:17.confidence of the House of Commons? Who can get the Queen's Speech

:20:18. > :20:21.through? I think she would be very well advised to go to the Palace and

:20:22. > :20:27.explain tactics. And another quick thought, just on the planning - if

:20:28. > :20:31.they are looking at some kind of agreement, not a formal coalition

:20:32. > :20:35.but some kind of agreement, with, let's say, the Ulster Unionists,

:20:36. > :20:39.would the senior civil servants be part of trying to set out some kind

:20:40. > :20:46.of informal deal or not? Again, that is up to... So, when we did the

:20:47. > :20:49.coalition, we facilitated the Conservatives and the Lib Dems

:20:50. > :20:53.coming together, but in the end they decided to have their meetings in a

:20:54. > :20:57.room with no civil servants there. . At this moment, do you not expect

:20:58. > :21:02.there will be somebody inside Downing Street with the DUP

:21:03. > :21:07.manifesto on the desk, going through it and saying, Arlene Foster said

:21:08. > :21:10.this or, ...? I am fairly certain they already will have done that.

:21:11. > :21:17.You know that the DUP is crucial. We have been here before as well.

:21:18. > :21:22.Before, the text was the Cabinet manual, I think now, people will be

:21:23. > :21:29.going back and watching the House, because this is more mid-1970s.

:21:30. > :21:32.Let's pause for a moment. The story of the night is that the

:21:33. > :21:36.Conservatives underperformed rather dramatically, but Labour made some

:21:37. > :21:40.rather dramatic gains as well. Let's talk through some of those games

:21:41. > :21:43.with Emily. Seeing those pictures of Jeremy Corbyn just a few moments

:21:44. > :21:46.ago, I was reminded of one of the things we learned from the US

:21:47. > :21:50.presidential election, which is sometimes, you have got to follow

:21:51. > :21:55.the noise. All the noise on that campaign was with Donald Trump. I am

:21:56. > :22:00.not making any comparisons, except to say that if you are at the way it

:22:01. > :22:04.was going up to the last few weeks, the noise, the buzz, was definitely

:22:05. > :22:07.with Jeremy Corbyn. And if you have woken up and wondering what happened

:22:08. > :22:13.last night, I can show you how we have got to where we are, with some

:22:14. > :22:16.of that noise which has translated into real and extraordinary gains.

:22:17. > :22:20.The first one I am going to start with is Canterbury. This has been

:22:21. > :22:30.Conservative since World War I. Julian Brazier has been the sitting

:22:31. > :22:36.MP since 1987. They had a majority of nearly 10,000, and Labour has

:22:37. > :22:41.gained it on a majority of just 187. It is an extraordinary thing for

:22:42. > :22:45.them to take, it was number 104 on their target list. And another one,

:22:46. > :22:50.this should ring bells for anyone who remembers 1997 and that Portillo

:22:51. > :22:58.moment. I'm not drawing any comparisons with 1997, or between

:22:59. > :23:02.Blair and Corbyn, except to say, Enfield Southgate is back on the

:23:03. > :23:07.radar again. It was safe Conservative, it goes Labour often

:23:08. > :23:16.in landslide kind of votes. It had a Conservative majority of nearly

:23:17. > :23:25.5000. Now replaced by Labour. Stroud, also on the Labour target

:23:26. > :23:29.list. Battersea, an area of London which is gentrifying, it has got

:23:30. > :23:33.posh housing coming through, it should have been very easy Tory

:23:34. > :23:39.hold, but Labour has outperformed itself even in London. The Treasury

:23:40. > :23:50.Minister Jane Ellison loses out and Labour games to seek, a key

:23:51. > :23:57.marginal. In Scotland, Rutherglen and Hamilton West has been taken

:23:58. > :24:03.from the SNP. 9% swing towards Labour. Kirkcaldy, Gordon Brown's

:24:04. > :24:13.old seat, another game for Labour from the SNP. Even bigger swing,

:24:14. > :24:17.nearly 10%. Glasgow North East, this was an SNP gain from Labour in 2015,

:24:18. > :24:23.this was the biggest swing of the election, 39%, and Labour has

:24:24. > :24:28.overturned that this time round. 13% swing back to Labour. They have had

:24:29. > :24:34.an astonishing night both in England and Scotland, with these sorts of

:24:35. > :24:39.seats changing hands. Emily, taking us through some of the notable gains

:24:40. > :24:42.mall there is a big story to talk about in Scotland, and we will be

:24:43. > :24:49.looking at in the next minutes. Let's join Andrew Neil on the Green

:24:50. > :24:54.with some guests. Thanks, it is a glorious day here in the heart of

:24:55. > :24:59.Westminster. We are just across the road from the Palace of Westminster.

:25:00. > :25:05.I am joined by John Redwood, the trend Tory backbencher, and Philip

:25:06. > :25:09.the, a minister in the Ministry of Justice. John Redwood, what went

:25:10. > :25:13.wrong? I think people look at what Mr Corbyn was saying, and they said,

:25:14. > :25:17.we would like a bit more spent on public services, and the students

:25:18. > :25:19.loved the idea of not having to pay student fees, although it was not

:25:20. > :25:24.quite clear how the country was going to afford all of that. And so

:25:25. > :25:28.we got this interesting answer, the country said, yes, they want a

:25:29. > :25:32.Conservative government, they like Theresa May, because we are the

:25:33. > :25:35.biggest party... They didn't! And we will have a fair majority in the new

:25:36. > :25:41.House of Commons. The British people...! They also listened to

:25:42. > :25:45.what Mr Corbyn has been saying, because they would like a bit more

:25:46. > :25:50.spent on public services, and I'm sure that is something we will

:25:51. > :25:53.review very carefully! Pretty disastrous decision, to have a

:25:54. > :25:59.working majority, call an election and lose that working majority? I

:26:00. > :26:02.was very supportive of Theresa May calling the election, she needed a

:26:03. > :26:08.personal mandate, a mandate to do the Brexit deal. She didn't get it!

:26:09. > :26:12.No, she didn't get it, and I would not be as up eight as John appears

:26:13. > :26:16.to be. Nobody has hosted this election. I think what is clear is

:26:17. > :26:21.that we have a number of seats to form a government, we WILL form this

:26:22. > :26:25.next government, in combination probably with the DUP, I am

:26:26. > :26:31.guessing. But we shouldn't say, continue as we've been doing. The

:26:32. > :26:34.idea that we shouldn't change our approach, off the back of this

:26:35. > :26:41.result, I think is ludicrous. What would you change? I think I would

:26:42. > :26:45.change, I think there is a very tight team, I think it needs a

:26:46. > :26:51.broader base. It is difficult to interpret the results, but I was in

:26:52. > :26:54.a seat which voted Remain in 2015, the seat itself was probably

:26:55. > :26:58.narrowly Brexit, the results I was getting on the doorstep was very

:26:59. > :27:04.large numbers of unhappy Conservative Remain photos. And in

:27:05. > :27:07.addition to that, there were lots of young people, in groups, turning up

:27:08. > :27:12.at polling stations in my patch, and the Labour vote has almost doubled.

:27:13. > :27:16.I cannot in all honesty say that we should just continue along the same

:27:17. > :27:22.path. But I can say that Theresa May should remain Prime Minister for how

:27:23. > :27:27.long? I not going to put a time on it. As John has said, there is

:27:28. > :27:33.clearly a difference in the number of seats the Conservative Party have

:27:34. > :27:40.won, compared to the Labour Party. But she is holed below the water

:27:41. > :27:44.line! By what standard could what she has done be regarded as a wise

:27:45. > :27:49.decision? This has not been a good result for us, that is pretty

:27:50. > :27:53.obvious. Why DID you get this outcome, what went wrong? I have

:27:54. > :27:57.just tried to explain that. I think there is clearly an aspect of the

:27:58. > :28:02.youth vote, I saw that myself on the ground. And in part I suspect that

:28:03. > :28:07.is to do with the tuition fees policy of the Labour Party. But you

:28:08. > :28:11.only have to look at the result in Battersea, in Putney, and indeed in

:28:12. > :28:14.my own part of the world, we have lost a fantastic colleague in

:28:15. > :28:22.Reading East, Reading East posted strongly to remain. If you want to

:28:23. > :28:29.look at a result which indicates what went wrong, look at that result

:28:30. > :28:33.in Reading. This is me said she needed a mandate for the two begin

:28:34. > :28:38.negotiations - she hasn't got a result for the Brexit negotiations,

:28:39. > :28:41.so where does that leave her? I think this is also about spending

:28:42. > :28:45.and the attitude towards the public services. If people had thought the

:28:46. > :28:50.main thing they wanted to do was to reverse the referendum, they would

:28:51. > :28:53.have voted Lib Dem in droves. That was a very clear, straightforward

:28:54. > :28:58.proposition, let's have a second referendum, let's stay in the single

:28:59. > :29:01.market. But she wanted a mandate?! They were both running on more less

:29:02. > :29:04.the same proposition, that you accept the verdict of the

:29:05. > :29:08.referendum, and you know that means you leave the single market but you

:29:09. > :29:14.want the best possible free-trade access. So I think, because of the

:29:15. > :29:17.combined Conservative and Labour vote, there is a very, very strong

:29:18. > :29:21.national mandate to get on with delivering what the public voted

:29:22. > :29:27.for, and to have that best possible solution. Let's not rewrite history.

:29:28. > :29:33.Let's just remind ourselves come this election was called because Mrs

:29:34. > :29:38.May wanted a Brexit mandate to go into the negotiations. Instead of a

:29:39. > :29:44.Brexit mandate, she lost her majority to go where is the

:29:45. > :29:49.mandate?! I am just explaining, Andrew, yes, she wanted to get out

:29:50. > :29:54.big overall majority, but Brexit mandate lies in the fact that the

:29:55. > :29:59.main parties went around the country saying, we can't stand Brexit, we

:30:00. > :30:02.need a second vote, were roundly defeated, and the people voted for

:30:03. > :30:06.the two parties who both said the same thing - accept the Brexit

:30:07. > :30:09.verdict and get the best possible deal and remember that we are not

:30:10. > :30:13.leaving Europe, we are just leaving the EU. That was a very clear

:30:14. > :30:19.proposition which the British people signed up to. And in Scotland, they

:30:20. > :30:22.clearly rejected a second referendum on Scottish independence. It is a

:30:23. > :30:25.sign of how bad the campaign has been for you that you did better in

:30:26. > :30:29.Scotland and England, when did you think you would say that?! This I

:30:30. > :30:33.would say to you is a disastrous personal result for Mrs May. She

:30:34. > :30:36.began this campaign very popular, but the moment people got to know

:30:37. > :30:40.her and see her, they didn't rate her any more and her ratings

:30:41. > :30:42.collapsed and her party's ratings collapsed, so her job must surely be

:30:43. > :30:54.on the line? No. It has been a tough campaign.

:30:55. > :30:59.But she secured 43% of the vote, and that has not happened since 2001.

:31:00. > :31:04.Between the two, the country has decided Theresa May should be the

:31:05. > :31:10.Prime Minister, not Jeremy Corbyn. The country's decision is we are not

:31:11. > :31:13.sure. I'm not sure there has been a clear decision about what the

:31:14. > :31:17.country wants in terms of policy, but I think you can conclude that

:31:18. > :31:23.once I'd got more votes than the other, so therefore the Prime

:31:24. > :31:29.Minister should stay put. -- that once I'd got more than the other. --

:31:30. > :31:34.one side got more than the other. It is not about whether we Brexit or

:31:35. > :31:41.not. It is about the type of Brexit. The clarity is not there. The Labour

:31:42. > :31:44.position is different from our position, different from the Liberal

:31:45. > :31:48.Democrat position, different from the SNP. Everybody is different. To

:31:49. > :31:59.sit here and claim that you know what the British public wants from

:32:00. > :32:04.the Brexit deal is nonsense. Do I think Theresa May remains Prime

:32:05. > :32:07.Minister? Most certainly I do. But I recognise that in view of this

:32:08. > :32:11.result, we can't maintain the same approach. We can't just stay the

:32:12. > :32:15.same, otherwise what was the result all about? She will only stay by

:32:16. > :32:22.Minister if she can put together some sort of coalition, a deal with

:32:23. > :32:27.the DUP, in other words we might have a coalition of chaos under the

:32:28. > :32:30.Conservatives. Absolutely no way. It sounds as if she will have enough

:32:31. > :32:34.votes to govern without having a formal coalition with anybody. She

:32:35. > :32:45.will have to have arrangements in place. Why? Otherwise she will be a

:32:46. > :32:48.minority government. If you take out the seven Sinn Fein members who

:32:49. > :32:52.don't come to Parliament, the Speaker and so on, she will have

:32:53. > :32:55.enough votes to remain as Prime Minister and have considerably more

:32:56. > :32:59.seats than the Labour Party. It's going to be a busy day in

:33:00. > :33:01.Westminster. The Conservatives trying to come to grips with a

:33:02. > :33:11.result they never expected. Thank you, Andrew. While he was

:33:12. > :33:18.talking to his guests at the Palace of Westminster, the latest word from

:33:19. > :33:21.Downing Street, Jo? Laura Kuenssberg, our political editor,

:33:22. > :33:25.says the timing of has no intention of resigning. Working on forming a

:33:26. > :33:32.government being the largest party in seats and votes. That is the

:33:33. > :33:36.latest word. Official in that sense. We can explore what is underneath

:33:37. > :33:41.that statement, but that is from Downing Street and it's the latest.

:33:42. > :33:45.We will discuss that with Gus and Andy in a moment. It is 7.30, a

:33:46. > :33:50.quick update of the news. Theresa May's decision

:33:51. > :33:52.to call a snap election has backfired as the UK wakes up

:33:53. > :34:04.to a hung parliament. Some pollsters had predicted at the

:34:05. > :34:08.start of the campaign that Mrs May would win a landslide for the

:34:09. > :34:10.Conservatives. Instead they have lost their majority.

:34:11. > :34:13.They will head back to Westminster as the largest party but with 12

:34:14. > :34:18.Speaking as she was re-elected to her seat in Maidenhead,

:34:19. > :34:22.the Prime Minister said the country needed stability.

:34:23. > :34:26.As we look ahead, and we wait to see what the final results will be,

:34:27. > :34:29.I know that, as I say, the country needs

:34:30. > :34:33.a period of stability, and whatever the results are,

:34:34. > :34:38.the Conservative Party will ensure that we fulfil our duty

:34:39. > :34:42.in ensuring that stability, so that we can all, as one country,

:34:43. > :34:50.Labour have done better than expected, gaining around 30 seats.

:34:51. > :34:59.The party now have 261 seats overall.

:35:00. > :35:01.In Islington North, the leader Jeremy Corbyn held his seat

:35:02. > :35:09.He's calling on Theresa May to resign.

:35:10. > :35:15.If there is a message from tonight's result, it's this. The Prime

:35:16. > :35:21.Minister called the election because she wanted a mandate. Well, the

:35:22. > :35:24.mandate she's got is last Conservative seats, lost votes, lost

:35:25. > :35:29.support and lost confidence. I would have thought that's enough to go,

:35:30. > :35:34.actually, and make way for a government that will be truly

:35:35. > :35:38.representative of all of the people of this country.

:35:39. > :35:40.One major political figure to lose his seat was Nick Clegg.

:35:41. > :35:42.The former Liberal Democrat leader and Deputy Prime Minister

:35:43. > :35:45.lost his Sheffield Hallam seat to Labour.

:35:46. > :35:47.Elsewhere, the Lib Dems made gains, former minsters Vince Cable

:35:48. > :35:50.and Jo Swinson have both taken back the seats they lost in 2015.

:35:51. > :35:53.The party's leader Tim Farron held onto his seat

:35:54. > :36:03.The Scottish National Party has endured a series of shock defeats,

:36:04. > :36:07.including the loss of its former First Minister Alex Salmond

:36:08. > :36:12.They both their seats amid a Scottish Conservative surge.

:36:13. > :36:17.The party's best performance in Scotland since 1983.

:36:18. > :36:21.First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said that the losses were a blow

:36:22. > :36:25.to her and the SNP, indicating she had some reflecting to do on key

:36:26. > :36:33.In Northern Ireland, both the SDLP and the Ulster Unionist

:36:34. > :36:40.It was a successful night for the largest parties.

:36:41. > :36:43.The Democratic Unionist Party won ten seats and Sinn

:36:44. > :36:45.Fein won seven seats but will continue to abstain

:36:46. > :36:51.The result could see the DUP play a key role in any potential

:36:52. > :36:54.coalition negotiations with the Conservative Party.

:36:55. > :36:57.In Wales, the Labour Party had a strong night taking back a number

:36:58. > :37:04.The results represent a blow to the Tory party, who had hoped

:37:05. > :37:09.Plaid Cymru won four seats, and the Liberal Democrats

:37:10. > :37:18.Meanwhile, Ukip have failed to win any seats in Parliament.

:37:19. > :37:21.Their share of the vote collapsed across Britain,

:37:22. > :37:27.and their leader Paul Nuttall came third in Boston and Skegness.

:37:28. > :37:29.Traders in the City of London are bracing

:37:30. > :37:32.themselves for a volatile day following the election result.

:37:33. > :37:36.The pound has suffered one of its biggest falls since January

:37:37. > :37:40.trading down by almost 2% against the dollar.

:37:41. > :37:44.The stock market is due to open at 8am with shares expected to rise

:37:45. > :37:47.This morning the EU's budget commissioner said the hung

:37:48. > :37:50.parliament could delay Brexit talks which are scheduled

:37:51. > :37:57.Theresa May is now back in Downing Street.

:37:58. > :38:00.The Prime Minister travelled from her Berkshire constituency

:38:01. > :38:04.to Conservative central office in the early hours.

:38:05. > :38:08.She's said to have met with advisors for an hour there before

:38:09. > :38:17.The BBC political editor told us in the last few minutes that Downing

:38:18. > :38:21.Street said the Prime Minister has no intention of resigning.

:38:22. > :38:25.Time now to hand back to Huw Edwards, for more

:38:26. > :38:43.Good morning once again. Coming up to 7.40 in the morning, we are at

:38:44. > :38:48.the BBC Election Centre. Get me tell you what we are intending to do in

:38:49. > :38:51.the next 20 minutes. The latest from Downing Street, talking about

:38:52. > :38:57.Theresa May's future. Joining me in the studio, Gus O'Donnell, the

:38:58. > :39:01.former Cabinet Secretary. Jo Coburn, and the BBC's Andrew Marr. We will

:39:02. > :39:06.be picking up on those trends. Thinking about the shape of this

:39:07. > :39:11.government and what it might be. And whether Theresa May will continue to

:39:12. > :39:15.be at the head of it. We will be talking too about the future of the

:39:16. > :39:20.Brexit process, because the European Union are hinting that the Brexit

:39:21. > :39:23.talks could well be delayed. Some very big things to consider. Let's

:39:24. > :39:28.think about how we got here and the nature of the swing that produced

:39:29. > :39:34.this, to put it mildly, unexpected result. Jeremy.

:39:35. > :39:43.Through the face of Big Ben, and I am here, in front of the

:39:44. > :39:47.swingometer. Let's have a look at the swing between the Conservatives

:39:48. > :39:51.and Labour. You know how the swingometer works. If the parties

:39:52. > :39:58.stay as they were last time, the swing is zero, and no seats change

:39:59. > :40:02.hands. The blue dots are Conservative seats, the red dots are

:40:03. > :40:08.Labour seats. Let's see the swing on average across the UK. It is a swing

:40:09. > :40:15.into Conservative territory of about 2%. If it was applied uniformly, in

:40:16. > :40:22.other words the same swing in every seat, these seats would go red from

:40:23. > :40:28.blue. Labour would take them. But swing is not ever applied uniformly.

:40:29. > :40:32.Let's watch what actually happened. Labour outperformed their swing by

:40:33. > :40:35.going beyond the hand of the swingometer and taking some of the

:40:36. > :40:42.Conservative seats that you might think they had no right to take.

:40:43. > :40:49.Right at the top, almost off the swingometer, that dudet is

:40:50. > :40:56.Canterbury, they took that. 8%, Battersea and Portsmouth 's out. --

:40:57. > :41:02.Portsmouth South. It is young voters, voting for the first time,

:41:03. > :41:04.coming out for Labour. The swing was not representative of Labour's

:41:05. > :41:10.performance in some seats where they needed to win and they took them off

:41:11. > :41:15.the Conservatives by turbo-charging their vote. There was a great offset

:41:16. > :41:20.for the Conservatives, and it was in Scotland. Let's have a look at the

:41:21. > :41:25.swing in Scotland and what has happened to the SNP in particular.

:41:26. > :41:30.SNP seats on this side. Only one Conservative seat in Scotland,

:41:31. > :41:36.pretty marginal. Any swing against the SNP starts to turn those yellow

:41:37. > :41:42.seats blue. What was the swing in Scotland? It's remarkable.

:41:43. > :41:48.Conservative SNP swing, it's a swing against the SNP of nearly 15%. If it

:41:49. > :41:52.was applied uniformly in every seat, all of these seats would go blue

:41:53. > :41:58.from yellow. That does not happen for the reasons I explained. The

:41:59. > :42:03.actual result is 12 gains, not 15, partly because the SNP vote was

:42:04. > :42:09.weakened in some seats by the Conservatives and then Labour took

:42:10. > :42:13.the seat. The SNP hung on in some seats, but 12 for the Conservatives

:42:14. > :42:18.in Scotland, plus the one they already had. Quite remarkable. These

:42:19. > :42:22.blocks show the story of what happened in Scotland. You would not

:42:23. > :42:26.call it a collapse in the SNP vote, because plenty of people still

:42:27. > :42:31.voting SNP, but you don't often see a precipitous hole like that of 13%,

:42:32. > :42:37.and most of that went to the Conservatives. Ruth Davidson, the

:42:38. > :42:44.leader of the Scottish Conservatives, offsetting in some

:42:45. > :42:49.degree for Mrs May. In Scotland, the surprise has been on the

:42:50. > :42:54.Conservative side. The SNP down 13%, the Conservatives up 14, and modest

:42:55. > :42:57.rises for Labour and the Lib Dems. Although they have been rather well

:42:58. > :43:03.targeted and have won them some seats as well. The swingometer tells

:43:04. > :43:09.a story of a bit of uplift for the Conservatives in Scotland. I said

:43:10. > :43:13.earlier on that the story in Scotland is one that tells a very

:43:14. > :43:20.different story to the one in England, certainly parts of England.

:43:21. > :43:26.Andy, your take. Ruth Davidson, a very good election for her. Had she

:43:27. > :43:30.tried to win a seat in Westminster, she would be a crucial and pivotal

:43:31. > :43:34.figure in the Tory negotiations, discussion of what would happen

:43:35. > :43:39.next. She has been very important to Theresa May and in close touch with

:43:40. > :43:43.Number Ten all the way through, but unlike Theresa May has been a big

:43:44. > :43:47.net vote winner in Scotland. A big personal triumph. But we should not

:43:48. > :43:52.forget the Labour Party, everyone was writing them off in Scotland, it

:43:53. > :44:05.was dead, over for ever. Not at all, it has come

:44:06. > :44:10.back in a big way. The SNP has lost in all directions. The Highlands,

:44:11. > :44:12.for the Lib Dems as well. It is all about momentum. It makes it much

:44:13. > :44:15.less likely that we will see another Scottish independence referendum any

:44:16. > :44:17.time soon, and that is big news for the country. And your thoughts on

:44:18. > :44:21.Nicola Sturgeon's position, given this result? There will be sniping

:44:22. > :44:25.against her, but she remains the most powerful person in the SNP,

:44:26. > :44:33.particularly with Alex Salmond and Angus Robertson losing seats. People

:44:34. > :44:38.will feel she should not have overemphasised the second referendum

:44:39. > :44:42.in the way she did, but she is in a strong position and will remain

:44:43. > :44:46.leader of the SNP and Scotland's First Minister for a while to come.

:44:47. > :44:50.That's talk about Wales, the Conservative performance there was

:44:51. > :44:54.not as robust as some people predicted. Labour's performance in

:44:55. > :45:01.Wales was far better than many predicted. We are going to talk to

:45:02. > :45:07.the First Minister Carwyn Jones. Your take on the night's events. We

:45:08. > :45:13.outperformed our own expectations. We were told the Tories would make

:45:14. > :45:18.gains in Wales, they lost seats. 28 seats, we are by far the biggest

:45:19. > :45:21.party and we can say Welsh Labour speaks for Wales. Hugely important

:45:22. > :45:27.that our mandate in Wales is respected. When you are in

:45:28. > :45:32.government, as we are in Wales, you have a record to defend. We gained

:45:33. > :45:39.more seats in Wales. To what extent was the performance dependent on the

:45:40. > :45:43.leadership Jeremy Corbyn provided? There was a strong element. Jeremy

:45:44. > :45:49.was energetic, going around the UK and talking to people. In Wales, we

:45:50. > :45:51.ran our campaign, I did the leaders' debates, the Welsh Conservatives

:45:52. > :45:56.could not put up the same person for more than one of those debates. We

:45:57. > :46:01.knew we had a mountain to climb a few weeks ago when we saw the polls.

:46:02. > :46:05.We worked hard and today we have a result that is better than we

:46:06. > :46:09.expected. We also had a manifesto that appealed to people, a Welsh

:46:10. > :46:17.manifesto particularly that people were attracted to.

:46:18. > :46:22.I think it is fair to say that in the past, you have not been

:46:23. > :46:26.enthusiastic about Mr Corbyn's leadership, but you're acknowledging

:46:27. > :46:31.today that he has fought a superb campaign, I think that was your

:46:32. > :46:37.word? Yes. If you look at Theresa May's campaign, it is the arrogance,

:46:38. > :46:41.that they don't get, the entitlement to be in government. She built the

:46:42. > :46:46.campaign entirely around her, her 25 point lead, and ends up with a

:46:47. > :46:51.two-point lead. Somebody builds a campaign around themselves, and that

:46:52. > :46:54.campaign falters so Bodley, as we've seen, then it is difficult to see

:46:55. > :47:01.how they can carry on in the future. First Minister, thank you for

:47:02. > :47:07.joining us. Let's not all of this into the context of what is coming

:47:08. > :47:11.up. Just thinking about it this morning, when we were talking about

:47:12. > :47:15.Laura Kuenssberg giving us the latest word from Downing Street, the

:47:16. > :47:17.Prime Minister has no intention of resigning, working to form a

:47:18. > :47:23.government based on being the largest party in seats and votes -

:47:24. > :47:28.would we be assuming too much to think that the Prime Minister's

:47:29. > :47:31.personal instinct would be to walk away from that, but there will be

:47:32. > :47:35.enormous pressure for her to stay? I think, given what you just heard,

:47:36. > :47:41.this was such a personal campaign, and you saw what David Cameron did

:47:42. > :47:46.after the Brexit referendum. His instinct was just to go home within

:47:47. > :47:52.hours, and he did it. I think part of her instinct would have been the

:47:53. > :47:56.same. But it is her duties, and I think she realises that it is her

:47:57. > :48:00.duty to stay. If she left, we would have no Prime Minister, it is

:48:01. > :48:05.complete chaos. It is important that she stays, that we see through the

:48:06. > :48:08.next period, and it is important that the Conservative Party sorts

:48:09. > :48:12.out where it wants to go. I'm just wondering, where it wants to go,

:48:13. > :48:19.particularly in terms of Brexit? Yes. If it is true, as we are

:48:20. > :48:23.hearing, that the European Union is suggesting today that the process

:48:24. > :48:28.could be lengthened in some way or adjusted, what does that tell us? I

:48:29. > :48:31.think it tells us, from their side, they're saying, so come what is your

:48:32. > :48:36.position, who has got the power? It is a bit like, Theresa May would not

:48:37. > :48:40.have wanted to go and speak to President Hollande when he was on

:48:41. > :48:43.his way out, she would have wanted to wait until we had a new president

:48:44. > :48:47.in France. Similarly in Germany, with a new election coming up.

:48:48. > :48:52.Actually, the really big stuff happens after the German election.

:48:53. > :48:56.So I think we can manage a process where we have a lot of talks, we

:48:57. > :49:01.will talk about process, about money and about some big issues, but we

:49:02. > :49:05.won't come to any decisions. That doesn't mean you have to push the

:49:06. > :49:09.final date back, because if you do that, then you get into this mess,

:49:10. > :49:12.what are we going to do about European Parliamentary elections in

:49:13. > :49:17.the spring of 2019? I don't think anybody wants to go there. Nick

:49:18. > :49:22.Clegg has just said that it is impossible to overestimate the

:49:23. > :49:25.extent to which the UK is now seen as a drifting rudderless country by

:49:26. > :49:28.the rest of the EU countries. And that I think will be the prevailing

:49:29. > :49:34.wind. We have a tweet from Chris Hope in the Daily Telegraph who

:49:35. > :49:39.said, an official in the EU has said that those Brexit talks could be

:49:40. > :49:44.delayed. Whether or not that is true, it is the fact that it is

:49:45. > :49:49.being discussed, and they might view Theresa May has a bit of a lame

:49:50. > :49:55.duck. If they think that, then they don't know who to talk to. It is not

:49:56. > :49:59.good for Britain. Many people watching will be asking themselves,

:50:00. > :50:04.does this mean we don't have to do Brexit after all, can we reverse it?

:50:05. > :50:08.Because this decision could be seen as the end of the moral authority to

:50:09. > :50:14.the Brexit referendum. What I would say to that is, there is no

:50:15. > :50:18.political leader in Britain with the kind of Commons authority to hit the

:50:19. > :50:23.stop button on Brexit. That is most unlikely, I would think. We are

:50:24. > :50:27.going to stumble on with it, in a moreft attic and less good for us

:50:28. > :50:30.kind of way. But in a way which might be more open to compromise

:50:31. > :50:34.than some of the noises we have heard so far from the Tory party?

:50:35. > :50:39.Compromise on the single market, and from eyes on the soft border, was

:50:40. > :50:42.ugly even over the control of immigration, if the DUP have

:50:43. > :50:47.anything to do with it - and they will. And we will see the Tory party

:50:48. > :50:55.going toward day after day, the hard and soft Brexiteers, so-called, that

:50:56. > :51:01.is what we are going to see. And Ruth Davidson, Theresa May owes her

:51:02. > :51:06.big-time in terms of the campaign in Scotland. And on the DUP side, that

:51:07. > :51:11.issue of the border, to give Theresa May her due, she was not advocating

:51:12. > :51:17.any hard border, but the DUP will want to press hard to say, we have

:51:18. > :51:22.to guarantee that border. It is going to be exciting, in a rather

:51:23. > :51:26.grim way, for a very long time! Just a little element of surprise for us,

:51:27. > :51:33.because let me bring you up to date with what's going on in the royal

:51:34. > :51:41.borough of Kensington and Chelsea. They have now sent the tellers home,

:51:42. > :51:46.because they're too tired! We might yet the result later this afternoon,

:51:47. > :51:50.maybe even tomorrow. Andy, we have to pinch ourselves! I have never

:51:51. > :51:56.heard that before. Night has been full of extraordinary, unpredictable

:51:57. > :52:01.events, but I have never heard of tellers getting sent home because

:52:02. > :52:04.they're too tired to keep counting! There have been plenty of examples

:52:05. > :52:07.of seats which have been on a knife edge, and in places where you might

:52:08. > :52:13.not expect it. We had the obvious one in Richmond Park, but that has

:52:14. > :52:16.been repeated across the country in seats, where because the two parties

:52:17. > :52:22.are now dominating, Labour and the Tories, we have not seen vote shares

:52:23. > :52:28.like that for lunar years, decades, in terms of the Conservatives, and

:52:29. > :52:32.that's why you're seeing the two coming right up against each other.

:52:33. > :52:37.We have another result in, and once again this is a very, very narrow

:52:38. > :52:46.majority. This is from St Ives, and the Conservatives have held on to St

:52:47. > :53:00.Ives, and just look at the margin, a majority of 312 on a turnout of 76%,

:53:01. > :53:08.very high turnout. 43% apiece for the Conservatives and the Lib Dems.

:53:09. > :53:11.The Liberal Democrats were looking to take back seats in the

:53:12. > :53:16.south-west, the problem for them was running on a very anti-Brexit

:53:17. > :53:21.campaign was difficult in some areas which turned out to be Leave. But

:53:22. > :53:24.here is an example where they did not win but they did come close. The

:53:25. > :53:28.other thing we have not talked about yet is austerity, and how much of

:53:29. > :53:37.this was, was it the economy, stupid? We have spoken about Brexit,

:53:38. > :53:40.because does negate since -- because those negotiations are starting in

:53:41. > :53:44.11 days' time. But a lot of this campaign was about public services,

:53:45. > :53:47.and Jeremy Corbyn's campaign caught the imagination, and a lot of these

:53:48. > :53:53.seats will have voted along those lines. Andrew Marr has been

:53:54. > :53:56.underlining for us the importance of what has been happening in Scotland,

:53:57. > :53:59.and Emily can bring us up to date with that and bring us up to date

:54:00. > :54:03.with what has gone on. I want to start with the scoreboard, because

:54:04. > :54:09.this gives you a sense of what has happened overnight. The SNP have

:54:10. > :54:15.made net losses of 21 seats. The Conservatives have gained 12, some

:54:16. > :54:20.of those on gigantic swings. Labour have made gains of six, also with

:54:21. > :54:25.some pretty hefty swings. And the Lib Dems have had their best night

:54:26. > :54:29.in Scotland, adding three. But if we show you the share of the vote, you

:54:30. > :54:34.might have heard in the middle of the night Nicola Sturgeon come on

:54:35. > :54:38.and says she still felt that the SNP were the winning party - they are,

:54:39. > :54:44.on seats - and that they have done seven all the other parties put

:54:45. > :54:46.together. If you start to add up the scores of the auntie independence

:54:47. > :54:51.parties, you can see that they will be in the majority. They will have a

:54:52. > :54:56.far larger share of the vote than the SNP, which tends to suggest that

:54:57. > :55:02.there has been some kind of concerted vote against a second

:55:03. > :55:05.Scottish referendum. -- anti-independence. Let me go into

:55:06. > :55:09.some of those extraordinary gains and losses overnight. This is where

:55:10. > :55:19.the big beast of the SNP, Alex Salmond, lost his seat. And this is

:55:20. > :55:24.a tremendous swing, 20%. Last time around we saw swings in Scotland

:55:25. > :55:28.which had outshone any other British election in history, nearly 40% of.

:55:29. > :55:37.Not quite as big this time, but pretty hefty nonetheless. We saw

:55:38. > :55:43.Angus Robertson, the leader of the SNP in Westminster, losing his seat

:55:44. > :55:49.as well. Dumbarton east has been a gain for the Lib Dems. Jo Swinson is

:55:50. > :55:53.back, the Business Minister for the Lib Dems, she has taken this one.

:55:54. > :55:57.Edinburgh West, a tricky one, Michelle Thomson was suspended over

:55:58. > :56:05.allegations of mortgage fraud, leaving Christine Jardine to pick up

:56:06. > :56:09.his seat for the Lib Dems. And let me just show you this last one

:56:10. > :56:14.before we hand back. Fife North East has been retained by the SNP, but

:56:15. > :56:23.look how slim that majority is, a majority of two votes! Wow! That's

:56:24. > :56:27.quite remarkable figure! What I want to do now is to have a look at these

:56:28. > :56:30.images in central London, because this was Jeremy Corbyn arriving at

:56:31. > :56:35.Labour headquarters just a while ago. A real sense, although they

:56:36. > :56:40.have not won the election, that this was very much a personal victory for

:56:41. > :56:45.his campaign. Well, it is. As you say, they have not won, they're many

:56:46. > :56:49.seats short of being the largest party, but remember what the

:56:50. > :56:51.expectations were and the predictions. And actually even

:56:52. > :56:55.within the Labour Party itself, there were many Labour MPs and

:56:56. > :57:01.candidates in this election felt that Jeremy Corbyn's leadership

:57:02. > :57:07.would mean that they would lose seats, and of course that hasn't

:57:08. > :57:12.happened. I think we can show you, from my colleague Vicki Young,

:57:13. > :57:18.Labour insiders saying this is a victory for him. What it means is

:57:19. > :57:22.that he's staying, he's not going anywhere. Any talk that he might be

:57:23. > :57:31.unseated as leader of the Labour Party, that, obviously, has been put

:57:32. > :57:35.aside. I've someone saying, if he exceeded Ed Miliband's vote share...

:57:36. > :57:45.Well, he has probably done that and more. He has eaten the amount that

:57:46. > :57:51.Tony Blair got in 2005 when he won. It just shows you that we have moved

:57:52. > :57:56.back to two-party politics. It means that the coalition is off the cards.

:57:57. > :58:00.Last time, in 2010, the Lib Dems were quite big so you could offer

:58:01. > :58:05.them things like Deputy Prime Minister. This time, that is just

:58:06. > :58:09.not there, they're too small. That is why we are in minority

:58:10. > :58:16.government, will not be a coalition. Just picking up on Jo Coburn's

:58:17. > :58:24.point, about austerity, it was a very big part of this. We had a

:58:25. > :58:28.Conservative MP with Andrew Neil, saying, we have to rethink things.

:58:29. > :58:34.An early indication of that, if you look at the DUP manifesto, which of

:58:35. > :58:38.course we are now all experts in, it is talking about the triple lock on

:58:39. > :58:41.pensions, that is an example of the kind of bread-and-butter politics

:58:42. > :58:48.which may change as a result of this election. We are joined by newly

:58:49. > :58:50.elected MP Jo Swinson, many congratulations and thanks for

:58:51. > :58:55.joining us - was it bread-and-butter issues there, as Andrew Marr was

:58:56. > :59:04.talking about? Well, north of the border, the biggest issue was

:59:05. > :59:08.IndyRef2. There was a lot of anger at the SNP for trying to force this

:59:09. > :59:12.on the Scottish population again, less than three years after we had a

:59:13. > :59:14.very divisive independence referendum in Scotland, the wounds

:59:15. > :59:18.of which still haven't really healed, there are still family and

:59:19. > :59:22.friends who are not even necessarily talking to each other as a result of

:59:23. > :59:25.the divisions which were opened up during that time. I think there

:59:26. > :59:28.really was an appetite in Scotland not to go through that again. People

:59:29. > :59:35.were looking for the best way to make sure that we didn't have that.

:59:36. > :59:41.Also there was something about 56 out of 59 seats in Scotland all

:59:42. > :59:46.being held by one party, when actually there is a much more varied

:59:47. > :59:49.array of views across Scotland. There was a really strong feeling

:59:50. > :59:54.from people that they did not necessarily just want to have the

:59:55. > :59:57.SNP everywhere and obviously, in places like is Dumbarton chip, the

:59:58. > :00:00.Lib Dems pick up a seat, and also in Edinburgh and Caithness, just so

:00:01. > :00:06.close in Fife North East, after several recounts. But three strong

:00:07. > :00:12.gains for the Lib Dems in Scotland which is really good for us. When

:00:13. > :00:14.you look at the picture in Westminster, Nick Clegg, the former

:00:15. > :00:19.leader, saying today, there is no way forward in terms of a government

:00:20. > :00:21.which does not involve a great deal of turmoil - what is your thought on

:00:22. > :00:30.that? I think he is right. He will be

:00:31. > :00:34.missed in the Commons as someone with a huge amount of wisdom,

:00:35. > :00:37.especially as the Brexit negotiations get under way. There is

:00:38. > :00:41.no doubt there will be a lot of turmoil. You have a Conservative

:00:42. > :00:46.Party where Theresa May had expected to take it for granted and get a

:00:47. > :00:50.landslide, and of course that has blown up in her face. She is very

:00:51. > :00:54.much a diminished figure in her own party, not necessarily with the

:00:55. > :01:02.credibility and authority she had before this election campaign. The

:01:03. > :01:04.disastrous images of her running away from debating the issues. You

:01:05. > :01:07.are going to have a government that does have to listen much more to

:01:08. > :01:12.Parliament. That is one positive to come out of this, but there are

:01:13. > :01:15.difficult waters ahead because negotiating Brexit is an incredibly

:01:16. > :01:20.difficult thing for a government to do. All different elements to

:01:21. > :01:24.balance, and a difficult situation in the House of Commons in terms of

:01:25. > :01:30.getting votes passed. Jo Swinson, the new MP for Dumbartonshire East

:01:31. > :01:35.for the Lib Dems. I would like to pick up again on that, and

:01:36. > :01:39.underlined that the SNP lost 21 seats overnight. They are on 35

:01:40. > :01:43.seats, down from the very, very strong performance two years ago.

:01:44. > :01:48.Andrew Neil has one of the guests from the SNP this morning.

:01:49. > :01:56.I can tell you sterling is down 2.3% on the markets, they don't like

:01:57. > :02:01.uncertainty. A hung parliament means uncertainty. We are told Theresa May

:02:02. > :02:04.is trying to put together a new government taking into account the

:02:05. > :02:10.new circumstances. We will see how that goes. It was a bad night for

:02:11. > :02:15.Mrs May, and for Nicola Sturgeon as well in Scotland. I have a member of

:02:16. > :02:22.the Scottish Parliament with me. You lost 21 seats in Scotland. A 15%

:02:23. > :02:29.swing against you. Why did it go so wrong? Remember that is from a base

:02:30. > :02:36.of a historic result in 2015. You lost 21 seats. Nobody expected us to

:02:37. > :02:41.win 56 seats again. I am not going to gloss over it, we have lost

:02:42. > :02:46.experienced politicians and very good politicians, like Tasmina

:02:47. > :02:53.Ahmed-Sheikh, as well. In Scotland, we have won the election. A

:02:54. > :02:55.majority. As you know in politics, the direction of travel is

:02:56. > :03:03.everything. And your direction of travel is down. You lost 21 seats,

:03:04. > :03:07.to the Conservatives, to Labour. Many of your people said Scottish

:03:08. > :03:13.Labour was finished. You lost to the Lib Dems. You lost to everybody.

:03:14. > :03:19.Again, that is coming from a high water mark in 2015. I accept there

:03:20. > :03:23.is plenty to reflect on. The most pressing issue is to form a

:03:24. > :03:28.government in that place. We will begin conversations with the Labour

:03:29. > :03:31.Party and other progressives like the Greens and Plaid Cymru to try

:03:32. > :03:36.and stop a Conservative government who have twice in as many years

:03:37. > :03:39.caused utter chaos in this country by gambling and misfiring

:03:40. > :03:46.spectacularly. You haven't got the MPs to do that. I think after the

:03:47. > :03:49.gamble David Cameron took on Brexit, the gamble Theresa May took which

:03:50. > :03:53.has backfired, the Conservatives should do the decent thing and step

:03:54. > :03:57.aside. They have no mandate for a hard Brexit and they should allow

:03:58. > :04:02.the progressives to take the discussions forward to the European

:04:03. > :04:07.Union. You would not have an overall majority as this Progressive

:04:08. > :04:12.alliance... If you add the DUP to the Conservatives, they would still

:04:13. > :04:16.be short. Your party's emphasis on the demand for a second referendum,

:04:17. > :04:22.to bring independence back onto the agenda again has gone down like a

:04:23. > :04:28.stone with the Scottish voters. They don't want it. If you take the

:04:29. > :04:32.Labour results in the West of Scotland, there is no doubt that has

:04:33. > :04:39.come about because of a Corbyn surge, not because of the decline in

:04:40. > :04:46.support for independence. There can be no doubt, you are in retreat now.

:04:47. > :04:50.Your line has not worked, independence is not around the

:04:51. > :04:54.corner any more for you. A third historic term in the Scottish

:04:55. > :04:59.Parliament, the largest party of local government. We have just won

:05:00. > :05:05.the election in Scotland. If that is on the decline, so be it, we are

:05:06. > :05:12.still a very powerful... If losing 21 seats is not a retreat, what is?

:05:13. > :05:16.It is a terrible result for you. The most pressing issue is trying to

:05:17. > :05:20.form a government in that place. We have always said independence is not

:05:21. > :05:26.going to happen... Nicola Sturgeon said education was her top priority

:05:27. > :05:30.and only 3% of the Scottish voters believed her. They thought

:05:31. > :05:34.independence was. Is it not time for the SNP to get on with running

:05:35. > :05:40.Scotland better and forget about a second referendum? Our record speaks

:05:41. > :05:44.for itself. The fact we have a third term historic SNP government elected

:05:45. > :05:49.shows people have confidence in our record. The most imminent and

:05:50. > :05:52.pressing issue, as your commentators have said, is Brexit negotiations

:05:53. > :05:56.starting in a matter of days. We need to get a government formed. We

:05:57. > :06:00.will talk to other progressives about that. It is time the Prime

:06:01. > :06:05.Minister did the decent thing and step aside and allow us to do that.

:06:06. > :06:13.We shall see. We are going to catch up with the

:06:14. > :06:17.news. After the news, we will discuss a little more about the

:06:18. > :06:21.Brexit process coming up, and indeed we will be talking about Labour's

:06:22. > :06:25.John McDonnell, who has said this morning he wants Labour to put

:06:26. > :06:28.itself forward to serve the country and form a minority government. We

:06:29. > :06:33.will discuss whether that is remote and possible given the make-up of

:06:34. > :06:36.the numbers. Now the news and with Louise Minchin.

:06:37. > :06:41.The BBC understands that Theresa May has no intention of resigning

:06:42. > :06:43.as Prime Minister, after the general election ends with

:06:44. > :06:46.The Conservatives have lost their majority,

:06:47. > :06:56.Labour has done better than expected,

:06:57. > :06:59.and Jeremy Corbyn has called for Theresa May to step down.

:07:00. > :07:00.Our political correspondent Tom Bateman's report

:07:01. > :07:07.A political gamble - the hope that she would transform

:07:08. > :07:10.the Tories' fragile advantage in Parliament with a huge win.

:07:11. > :07:20.But the smiles of the campaign trail have vanished.

:07:21. > :07:26.The Conservatives are set to end up worse off with a hung Parliament.

:07:27. > :07:28.If, as the indications have shown, if this is correct,

:07:29. > :07:31.that the Conservative Party has won the most seats, and probably

:07:32. > :07:34.the most votes, then it will be incumbent on us to ensure we have

:07:35. > :07:37.that period of stability, and that is what we will do.

:07:38. > :07:39.And you can see what the Labour leader makes

:07:40. > :07:42.A man whose campaign confounded many expectations.

:07:43. > :07:45.Beaming smiles, with Labour on course for a far better

:07:46. > :07:50.The Prime Minister called the election because

:07:51. > :07:56.Well, the mandate she's got is lost Conservative seats,

:07:57. > :08:00.lost votes, lost support, and lost confidence.

:08:01. > :08:06.I would have thought that is enough to go, actually.

:08:07. > :08:08.In Battersea, Labour have ousted a government

:08:09. > :08:18.There have been Labour gains elsewhere.

:08:19. > :08:23.They increase their majority in Cambridge by 12,000, they took

:08:24. > :08:25.Peterborough from the Conservatives, boosting their share of the vote by

:08:26. > :08:34.more than 12%. The Home Secretary Amber Rudd

:08:35. > :08:36.only just scraped home In Sheffield, the Lib Dem's former

:08:37. > :08:43.leader Nick Clegg has lost his seat. I, of course, have encountered this

:08:44. > :08:46.evening something that many people have encountered before tonight,

:08:47. > :08:49.and I suspect many people will encounter after tonight,

:08:50. > :08:52.which is in politics, you live by the sword and you

:08:53. > :08:56.die by the sword. The night began with

:08:57. > :09:09.a projection - the exit poll. The BBC forecast the Conservatives

:09:10. > :09:11.as the largest party, The SNP have lost big names

:09:12. > :09:17.on a disappointing night, compared with their Scottish

:09:18. > :09:20.landslide two years ago. Their Deputy Leader Angus Robertson

:09:21. > :09:23.was ousted by the Conservatives and their former leader Alex Salmond

:09:24. > :09:26.lost his seat too. Now one of Theresa May's own MPs

:09:27. > :09:29.is laying the blame on her. I think she's in a very

:09:30. > :09:33.difficult place. She's a remarkable and a very

:09:34. > :09:36.talented woman, and she doesn't shy from difficult decisions,

:09:37. > :09:52.but she now has to Jeremy Corbyn's vocal support is

:09:53. > :09:54.growing. Labour may be in a clear second, but his allies say they want

:09:55. > :10:07.to form a minority government. She says she has no intention of

:10:08. > :10:12.standing down and is working on forming a government. She wanted a

:10:13. > :10:16.strong, stable and triumphant return here before Brexit talks. She has

:10:17. > :10:21.ended up weakened, with fewer MPs and questions over her future.

:10:22. > :10:23.In Northern Ireland, both the SDLP and the Ulster Unionist

:10:24. > :10:27.It was a successful night for the largest parties.

:10:28. > :10:29.The Democratic Unionist Party won ten seats.

:10:30. > :10:32.Sinn Fein won seven seats but will continue to abstain

:10:33. > :10:36.The result could see the DUP demand significant concessions

:10:37. > :10:40.in return for propping up a Theresa May administration.

:10:41. > :10:43.In Wales, the Labour Party had a strong night, taking back a number

:10:44. > :10:49.The results represent a blow to the Tory party, who had hoped

:10:50. > :10:54.Plaid Cymru won four seats, and the Liberal Democrats

:10:55. > :11:00.Meanwhile, Ukip have failed to win any seats in Parliament.

:11:01. > :11:03.Their share of the vote collapsed across Britain,

:11:04. > :11:08.and their leader Paul Nuttall came third in Boston and Skegness.

:11:09. > :11:11.The Green Party remain unchanged, with one seat.

:11:12. > :11:15.The party co-leader Caroline Lucas, who held Brighton Pavilion,

:11:16. > :11:19.said the Greens will never support a Tory government.

:11:20. > :11:23.The Greens are forecast to win 2% of the vote.

:11:24. > :11:31.Let's have a look at the weather, with Matt Taylor.

:11:32. > :11:39.Good morning, overall, a more sunny day compared with yesterday but not

:11:40. > :11:43.completely dry. In Scotland the rain will ease off. Elsewhere, some

:11:44. > :11:46.showers in western England and Wales. They will push into central

:11:47. > :11:51.and eastern parts of this afternoon, a rumble of thunder with those, but

:11:52. > :11:54.they will fade away. Dry and sunny weather for England, Wales and

:11:55. > :12:00.Northern Ireland this afternoon. Feeling warm, highs of 22 possible.

:12:01. > :12:04.Tonight, early showers fading, the rain will spread. A wet night in

:12:05. > :12:09.Northern Ireland and spreading across Scotland. On Saturday,

:12:10. > :12:14.rainfall northern England, Wales and potentially south-west England. Dry

:12:15. > :12:19.in Scotland later on, a bright and breezy day in Northern Ireland. The

:12:20. > :12:22.south-east could feel warm in the sunshine, 25 is possible. Sunday,

:12:23. > :12:27.the south-east corner stays largely dry with sunny spells. Further north

:12:28. > :12:30.and west, a scattering of showers, feeling a bit cooler, with

:12:31. > :12:36.temperatures in the high teens. Back for more election coverage with

:12:37. > :12:53.Hugh Edwards. A very good morning once again from

:12:54. > :12:57.the BBC Election Centre. If you are just tuning in and catching up with

:12:58. > :13:04.what's been happening overnight, let me tell you the result of this 2017

:13:05. > :13:08.general election is that we are looking at a hung parliament. These

:13:09. > :13:14.are the figures with just four results to come. The Conservatives

:13:15. > :13:19.are the largest party. It has certainly turned out rather

:13:20. > :13:24.differently to the opinion polls suggested, and indeed to what people

:13:25. > :13:28.were expecting in terms of the analysis and the commentary

:13:29. > :13:33.beforehand. It has been a night of dramatic and unexpected results. As

:13:34. > :13:38.I say, four to come, three of them in Cornwall and one in Kensington

:13:39. > :13:41.and Chelsea, where they are still counting and they have decided to

:13:42. > :13:47.take a break after a long night. John McDonnell of Labour saying they

:13:48. > :13:51.want to put themselves forward as a minority government. We will discuss

:13:52. > :13:56.whether that is possible. I am just being told that the EU Commissioner

:13:57. > :14:00.says Brexit talks might not now start as planned on June 19, simply

:14:01. > :14:05.because they are really looking at the kind of uncertainty that Theresa

:14:06. > :14:10.May was saying she categorically did not want, which is why she called

:14:11. > :14:15.this election in the first. With me in the studio, Andrew Marr and Jo

:14:16. > :14:20.Coburn, and we are joined by Professor Peter Hennessy. We will

:14:21. > :14:24.talk to you in a while about the permutations of these figures. To

:14:25. > :14:31.help us with that, Jeremy, what have you got? One of the things this

:14:32. > :14:35.result will do, because it is so tight, is put a lot of focus on the

:14:36. > :14:39.House of Commons. We are sitting in the virtual one. Let's have a look

:14:40. > :14:43.and see if the numbers become clearer as we examine them. We have

:14:44. > :14:53.the parties arranged as we think the final result will be. 319 for the

:14:54. > :15:00.Conservatives. 261, Labour. The SNP on 35. And so on. You need 326 MPs

:15:01. > :15:04.for an overall majority. I am going to try and build the majority

:15:05. > :15:10.bearing in mind that no one party can do it. The Conservatives, having

:15:11. > :15:15.fallen into a minority, sit with 319, and they need to add to the

:15:16. > :15:19.total and get it up to 326. The obvious place to go is the

:15:20. > :15:24.Democratic Unionist Party makes in Northern Ireland, they have ten MPs.

:15:25. > :15:34.It is pretty simple maths. With the DUP, we have 329. The politics is

:15:35. > :15:36.not simple because the DUP will want something for helping the

:15:37. > :15:41.Conservatives. To get the Queen's Speech through, whether you call it

:15:42. > :15:44.a coalition, a working arrangement, whatever, it doesn't matter. The

:15:45. > :15:51.problem for Theresa May is she has not done it on her own. But they get

:15:52. > :15:54.passed 326 by simply an listing the DUP in Northern Ireland. Not that

:15:55. > :16:14.anyone expected. And if we have a look at the

:16:15. > :16:18.opposition benches... Labour, the single biggest opposition party. The

:16:19. > :16:22.SNP, much diminished in the House of Commons. The Liberal Democrats have

:16:23. > :16:29.done a bit better than they did last time, now having 12. So that's how

:16:30. > :16:35.it would work. These are the benches to focus on. So, there is a way of

:16:36. > :16:39.the Conservatives getting through that number of 326, but it is pretty

:16:40. > :16:45.humiliating for Theresa May to have to even think about this. As we look

:16:46. > :16:51.ahead to the start of the biggest challenge which any government in

:16:52. > :16:54.this country has faced for decades, Brexit, clearly, the uncertainty is

:16:55. > :17:02.huge. We can speak now to Katya Adler, our Europe editor. I think

:17:03. > :17:06.this can be summed up in the words of the French prime ministers this

:17:07. > :17:13.morning, who said, we're surprised, but Brexit is not called into

:17:14. > :17:21.question. The start of the negotiations was set for the 19th of

:17:22. > :17:24.June, but that is very, very soon. That was what Theresa May's

:17:25. > :17:29.governance said it wanted at the time. But this is not Brussels was

:17:30. > :17:33.no decision, this is a UK decision. I think the general feeling in the

:17:34. > :17:37.EU is that they are feeling strong and stable. The EU 27 member states

:17:38. > :17:42.are all united about Brexit processor. Emmanuel Macron and

:17:43. > :17:46.Angela Merkel are looking strong politically at home as well. And

:17:47. > :17:52.they now look over to the United Kingdom and they see rather a

:17:53. > :17:58.political mess. As for whether this leads to a harder Brexit or a softer

:17:59. > :18:02.Brexit, again, Brussels says, this is a UK decision. They say they are

:18:03. > :18:04.ready, they have had almost 12 months to prepare for Brexit

:18:05. > :18:10.negotiations to begin. They want them to begin and they are reminding

:18:11. > :18:15.the UK that the clock is ticking. Under EU rules, the UK only has

:18:16. > :18:18.until March 2019 to finish the Brexit process, never mind talking

:18:19. > :18:24.about a future trade relationship. Peter Hennessy, thoughts on that?

:18:25. > :18:30.Even if negotiations start a week on Monday, as planned, the timetable is

:18:31. > :18:39.immensely tight, to engineer the greatest geopolitical operation in

:18:40. > :18:48.our country, wondering 46 years of everything. 19,000 statutes which

:18:49. > :18:53.have to be once grumbled, 560 treaties involving 168 countries, it

:18:54. > :18:56.is quite extraordinary. That is going to take much longer than the

:18:57. > :19:01.two years, but with that clock ticking, it's going to be very, very

:19:02. > :19:07.difficult indeed. The question might arise in some circumstances, Article

:19:08. > :19:10.50, having been triggered, can you stop it? John Curtice has always

:19:11. > :19:16.said it could be revoked, because it is a process, not a punishment. But

:19:17. > :19:20.this extra ordinary election has thrown particles into the air which

:19:21. > :19:23.we never anticipated, including these procedural questions. We have

:19:24. > :19:26.never been across this terrain before, there is no precedent, there

:19:27. > :19:30.is no equivalent of a Cabinet manual, which we were talking about

:19:31. > :19:35.earlier, for these negotiations. It is quite extraordinary, it must be

:19:36. > :19:38.sheer hell for our negotiators in Brussels, they have been like

:19:39. > :19:41.racehorses, ready to go a week on Monday, and now there is a chance it

:19:42. > :19:45.will not be starting then. Absolutely right, this is an

:19:46. > :19:50.incredibly complicated operation. The Brexit department, David Davis'

:19:51. > :19:53.department, is in better shape than a lot of us might have expected,

:19:54. > :19:58.they have recruited a lot of people. But the real issue they have is, any

:19:59. > :20:02.deals they do depend upon a majority in the House of Commons, and it

:20:03. > :20:05.looks now like that majority might not be available. Therefore, every

:20:06. > :20:08.time they try to do a compromise deal, every time they're offered

:20:09. > :20:12.something, they will have to think about the balance of power on the

:20:13. > :20:16.Tory benches in the House of Commons - at a nightmare. And that I think

:20:17. > :20:21.the bigger test. If Theresa May is staying as Prime Minister, she is

:20:22. > :20:27.now going to be looking over her shoulder one way to those who want

:20:28. > :20:31.what we have called a harder Brexit. But now, if Labour organises itself,

:20:32. > :20:35.along with those many e-MPs who might the looking for what we would

:20:36. > :20:40.call a softer Brexit, she's going to have a very difficult time. Already,

:20:41. > :20:43.people are saying that actually, there is more of a majority for a

:20:44. > :20:48.softer Brexit and it is up to the opposition parties to organise

:20:49. > :20:51.themselves. Just on that, we have been talking about Theresa May's

:20:52. > :20:56.position all morning, and apparently Arlene Foster of the DUP as

:20:57. > :21:00.suggested on the radio that Theresa May could be in a very, very

:21:01. > :21:02.difficult position. Or the DUP demand the head of the Prime

:21:03. > :21:07.Minister as part of the deal? It seems at Claude Le Roy, but...

:21:08. > :21:20.Contact yes, but at the moment, anything it would seem would be

:21:21. > :21:24.possible. -- it seems extraordinary. It is the curse of British politics.

:21:25. > :21:28.When you look at the an hour picture, referendums, it does not

:21:29. > :21:33.sit well with our normal system of representative democracy, and this

:21:34. > :21:38.election has been about bringing the two types of democracy together at,

:21:39. > :21:43.and in has produced this extraordinary result. There is no

:21:44. > :21:47.question it destabilises us more. Since 1950, when we were first

:21:48. > :21:50.approached to do all of this, the British party system cannot handle

:21:51. > :21:56.it because it is not a left right question. It is the great wrecker of

:21:57. > :22:01.political careers, it is an absolute nightmare, whether you're Remain or

:22:02. > :22:07.Leave. Nigel Farage is with Andrew Neil. Nigel Farage, former leader of

:22:08. > :22:10.Ukip, is indeed with me here in Westminster. Mrs May called an

:22:11. > :22:17.election to get a mandate for her kind of Brexit. She didn't get it.

:22:18. > :22:21.Are you now worried that the kind of Brexit you want may not be

:22:22. > :22:27.delivered? Very. Despite the fact that there are 380 Tory MPs elected

:22:28. > :22:33.on a Brexit manifesto, the DUP have got ten seats, and they support

:22:34. > :22:36.Brexit. The real worry I have got is David Davis, who of all of the

:22:37. > :22:39.people in the cabin and I would have thought would be closest to my

:22:40. > :22:43.position, even him saying this morning but perhaps leaving the

:22:44. > :22:47.single market and leaving the customs union will need to be

:22:48. > :22:51.reconsidered. And what Tory central office have concluded is, they have

:22:52. > :22:55.concluded that campaigning for hard Brexit has cost them votes. Now, I

:22:56. > :22:58.think that analysis is wrong. I think in the end it was more about

:22:59. > :23:03.personality. She failed the test, cheated not look like a leader, and

:23:04. > :23:06.Jeremy Corbyn was having a ball, going around the country, engaging

:23:07. > :23:13.people. So, it seems to me that even David Davis is considering putting

:23:14. > :23:16.the single market back on the table, which shows that the whole Brexit

:23:17. > :23:20.process has very seriously been damaged by this election. As we

:23:21. > :23:23.speak, about half a mile down the road, we are told Mrs May is

:23:24. > :23:27.intending to put together a government to cope with the new

:23:28. > :23:30.circumstances, some reports she has already been in touch with the DUP

:23:31. > :23:37.to get their support - can she put it off? Well, maybe she can put

:23:38. > :23:42.together a government, but can she pull off the Brexit process? Four

:23:43. > :23:45.times in this campaign, I saw her asked, as somebody who back to

:23:46. > :23:49.Remain, do you know believing Brexit? And four times, she could

:23:50. > :23:53.not answer the question. You cannot go to Brussels and negotiate

:23:54. > :23:57.something as important as this unless you believe in it in your

:23:58. > :24:01.heart. I'm told she will not resign today, but I do think, if Brexit is

:24:02. > :24:04.to be a success, we must have somebody who believes in it leading

:24:05. > :24:08.the government. So you think the Prime Minister should go?

:24:09. > :24:11.Absolutely, yes, I do. I think she has failed completely and has

:24:12. > :24:16.weakened her own position in British politics and she has weakened the

:24:17. > :24:19.UK's position with these negotiations. And yet if the very

:24:20. > :24:26.idea of Brexit is back on the negotiating table again, if you're

:24:27. > :24:31.worried that it may not happen now, or at least it may not happen as you

:24:32. > :24:37.would like it, and yet here is your own party, Ukip, nowhere in this

:24:38. > :24:42.debate, no MPs, less than 2% of the vote, out, over, done, Towcester!

:24:43. > :24:49.Ukip yesterday seemed to be irrelevant to the process, given

:24:50. > :24:51.that the Tories and Labour both said they were fighting on Brexit. And

:24:52. > :24:55.yet today we face the prospect, where if this starts to get watered

:24:56. > :24:59.down, if we do not get the tempi in which people voted for, then Ukip

:25:00. > :25:03.could be more relevant than ever. But you would come back from a very

:25:04. > :25:09.low base. You have only just got more sure of the vote than the

:25:10. > :25:13.Greens! Yes. But don't underestimate the fluidity of voters in the United

:25:14. > :25:17.Kingdom and how strongly attached those Brexit voters are. If they get

:25:18. > :25:21.betrayed, their votes will move. But the harsh fact is that your party,

:25:22. > :25:26.since you stepped down as leader, has been nothing short of a

:25:27. > :25:31.shambles. And that shambles has come to its logical conclusion in how the

:25:32. > :25:34.people voted yesterday. It has not been very professional, I would

:25:35. > :25:37.agree with all of that. But equally, the tide was going in a different

:25:38. > :25:42.direction in this general election. It needs to be reformed and changed

:25:43. > :25:47.and believe you me, if we finish up inside the single market, then Ukip

:25:48. > :25:53.will be a party which is back on the agenda. If in your view the country

:25:54. > :25:57.needs Ukip more than ever, for the reasons you've given, doesn't it

:25:58. > :26:04.mean that Ukip needs you more than ever? Well, I didn't involve myself

:26:05. > :26:07.in this election campaign. If my worst fears are confirmed, if we

:26:08. > :26:11.don't get the kind of Brexit that I want and wish the people voted for,

:26:12. > :26:15.then I would have no choice but to involve myself again with full-time

:26:16. > :26:20.campaigning. Would you come back as leader? I'm not saying that. It

:26:21. > :26:25.sounds to me like you would consider coming back as leader. I would not

:26:26. > :26:28.even think about leading Ukip unless it went through some pretty

:26:29. > :26:36.fundamental reforms. We shall see. Nigel Farage, thank you very much.

:26:37. > :26:41.Back to the studio and Huw. Well, that is the former Ukip leader, what

:26:42. > :26:49.happened to the CURRENT Ukip leader, Emily? Nigel Farage represents that

:26:50. > :26:55.idea of hard empathy, but what has happened to the man who represents

:26:56. > :27:01.Ukip now, all who wanted to, at least, in this Parliament? Bulot all

:27:02. > :27:04.stood to be an MP in Boston and Skegness, and you can see what

:27:05. > :27:10.happens to the Ukip share of the vote number it is down 26%. There

:27:11. > :27:14.might be personal reasons on this one but we know that Paul Nuttall

:27:15. > :27:20.was not the choice of voters in Boston and Skegness - does that

:27:21. > :27:25.suggest that there is less of an appetite for Ukip's idea of hard

:27:26. > :27:28.Brexit? Let me see if I can pull up some of the other places where we

:27:29. > :27:34.have seen that drop in the Ukip folk? Douglas Carswell, he said

:27:35. > :27:38.Ukip, job done. Perhaps it is a sign of their success. But when you look

:27:39. > :27:45.at this, you can see how the vote has been split between Labour

:27:46. > :27:50.Conservatives, with Ukip voters not entirely sure which party to go to.

:27:51. > :27:58.Message is clear, in these seats, and I could bring up more of them,

:27:59. > :28:04.Ukip is taking a big hit, down 11% or 17%. It suggests that Ukip voters

:28:05. > :28:09.are now looking to other parties to enact whatever kind of Brexit they

:28:10. > :28:14.thought they had voted for. We said earlier that John McDonnell was

:28:15. > :28:17.saying that Labour would like to put themselves forward as a minority

:28:18. > :28:21.government. That is something I want to discuss with my guests. Also,

:28:22. > :28:27.Iain Duncan Smith, the former Conservative leader, saying a short

:28:28. > :28:30.while ago that the Conservative Party, if it had a leadership

:28:31. > :28:35.election, it would be a catastrophe. He said it would plunge the UK into

:28:36. > :28:41.a crisis. Gus O'Donnell is with us. Can we just nailed this one on

:28:42. > :28:43.Labour - could Labour be in a position, within this configuration,

:28:44. > :28:47.to form some kind of minority government? Basically, the formal

:28:48. > :28:54.position is that Theresa May, as rain minister, even if she had lost

:28:55. > :28:58.this badly, could still carry on and go to the House and try and get a

:28:59. > :29:03.Queen's Speech through, and then lose then she goes to the Queen and

:29:04. > :29:07.says, I can't do it. I suspect what will happen this time is, she has

:29:08. > :29:14.the votes to do it. Therefore, the situation won't arise. I'm afraid

:29:15. > :29:17.Labour doesn't get a chance in those circumstances, as long as she wins

:29:18. > :29:27.that vote in the House. But the key. On the issue of the Conservative

:29:28. > :29:32.leadership, Andy, your thoughts on Iain Duncan Smith, who had a torrid

:29:33. > :29:37.time as leader himself... Yes, he knows all about Conservative Party

:29:38. > :29:43.leadership! If the Conservative Party could move to a new leader in

:29:44. > :29:48.a mature fashion, that would be one thing. But they can't, it would be

:29:49. > :29:52.an absolute bunfight, Boris would not be able to restrain himself in

:29:53. > :29:56.any way at all, Brexit would be back on the agenda, it would be long,

:29:57. > :30:00.brutal and bloody, and it would be, as Iain Duncan Smith says,

:30:01. > :30:03.catastrophic for the country. It is interesting, though, because we have

:30:04. > :30:06.been waiting for some reaction from Conservative MPs, and there has not

:30:07. > :30:11.been all that much so far. It makes me feel that leading Brexiteers like

:30:12. > :30:15.Iain Duncan Smith of course they don't want a leadership election,

:30:16. > :30:20.they want to shore up Theresa May and her position, however weakened,

:30:21. > :30:23.because they're worried about that Brexit timetable, and I think they

:30:24. > :30:28.will have made a car chelation that the best way to keep Brexit, in

:30:29. > :30:33.their mind, one track, is to keep her in place and shore up her

:30:34. > :30:36.support. If there were to be a leadership election, it would be a

:30:37. > :30:39.bunfight, and Brexit would look at risk in the way he would like to see

:30:40. > :30:47.it. Anything from Boris Johnson? Nothing yet. Philip Hammond? No! And

:30:48. > :30:52.all eyes will be on the Johnson, because what happened after the

:30:53. > :30:59.referendum. What about David Davis? Nothing from David Davis. , the key

:31:00. > :31:04.people, they will be waiting, there will be conversations going on in

:31:05. > :31:05.the Conservative Party at higher levels, to see, strategically, what

:31:06. > :31:15.can be done. If you want a sense of how

:31:16. > :31:16.extraordinary this election has been, and everything is

:31:17. > :31:26.unprecedented, Boris Johnson is saying nothing! And that is unusual.

:31:27. > :31:29.It is 8.31, we are going to catch up with the news.

:31:30. > :31:34.The BBC understands that Theresa May has no intention of resigning

:31:35. > :31:37.as Prime Minister after the general election results

:31:38. > :31:42.Some pollsters had predicted at the start of the campaign

:31:43. > :31:45.that Mrs May would win a landslide for the Conservatives.

:31:46. > :31:48.They will head back to Westminster with 319 seats -

:31:49. > :31:55.seven fewer than would give them an overall majority.

:31:56. > :31:58.Speaking as she was reelected to her seat in Maidenhead,

:31:59. > :32:00.the Prime Minister said the country needed stability.

:32:01. > :32:04.As we look ahead, and we wait to see what the final results will be,

:32:05. > :32:08.I know that, as I say, the country needs

:32:09. > :32:11.a period of stability, and whatever the results are,

:32:12. > :32:16.the Conservative Party will ensure that we fulfil our duty

:32:17. > :32:20.in ensuring that stability, so that we can all, as one country,

:32:21. > :32:27.Labour have done better than expected, gaining around 30 seats.

:32:28. > :32:31.Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell says the party

:32:32. > :32:33.are offering themselves as a minority government.

:32:34. > :32:40.In Islington North, the leader Jeremy Corbyn held his seat

:32:41. > :32:47.After his result was called, he said Theresa May should step down.

:32:48. > :32:52.If there is a message from tonight's result, it's this -

:32:53. > :32:55.the Prime Minister called the election because

:32:56. > :33:02.Well, the mandate she's got is lost Conservative seats, lost votes,

:33:03. > :33:08.I would have thought that's enough to go, actually,

:33:09. > :33:12.and make way for a government that will be truly representative of all

:33:13. > :33:19.One major political figure to lose his seat was Nick Clegg.

:33:20. > :33:23.The former Liberal Democrat leader and Deputy Prime Minister

:33:24. > :33:26.lost his Sheffield Hallam seat to Labour.

:33:27. > :33:29.Elsewhere, the Lib Dems made gains - former minsters Vince Cable

:33:30. > :33:33.and Jo Swinson have both taken back the seats they lost in 2015.

:33:34. > :33:36.The party's leader Tim Farron held onto his seat

:33:37. > :33:43.The Scottish National Party has endured a series of shock defeats,

:33:44. > :33:53.including the loss of its former First Minister Alex Salmond

:33:54. > :33:55.and leader in the Commons Angus Robertson.

:33:56. > :33:57.They both their seats amid a Scottish Conservative surge.

:33:58. > :34:00.The party's best performance in Scotland since 1983.

:34:01. > :34:02.First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said that the losses were a blow

:34:03. > :34:06.to her and the SNP, indicating she had some reflecting to do on key

:34:07. > :34:12.In Northern Ireland, both the SDLP and the Ulster Unionist Party

:34:13. > :34:17.It was a successful night for the largest parties.

:34:18. > :34:21.The Democratic Unionist Party won ten seats.

:34:22. > :34:23.Sinn Fein won seven seats but will continue to abstain

:34:24. > :34:29.The result could see the DUP demand significant concessions

:34:30. > :34:34.in return for propping up a Theresa May administration.

:34:35. > :34:37.In Wales, the Labour Party had a strong night, taking back a number

:34:38. > :34:43.The results represent a blow to the Tory party, who had hoped

:34:44. > :34:49.Plaid Cymru won four seats, and the Liberal Democrats

:34:50. > :34:55.Meanwhile, Ukip have failed to win any seats in Parliament.

:34:56. > :34:59.Their share of the vote collapsed across Britain,

:35:00. > :35:04.and their leader Paul Nuttall came third in Boston and Skegness.

:35:05. > :35:07.Traders in the City of London are bracing

:35:08. > :35:10.themselves for a volatile day following the election result.

:35:11. > :35:13.The pound has suffered one of its biggest falls since January

:35:14. > :35:20.trading down by almost 2% against the dollar.

:35:21. > :35:25.The stock market open half an hour ago, with shares in the top 100

:35:26. > :35:28.companies rising more than expected. This morning, the EU's budget

:35:29. > :35:30.commissioner said a hung parliament could delay Brexit talks,

:35:31. > :35:32.which are scheduled Theresa May is now back

:35:33. > :35:36.in Downing Street. The Prime Minister travelled

:35:37. > :35:39.from her Berkshire constituency to Conservative central office

:35:40. > :35:41.in the early hours. She's said to have met

:35:42. > :35:44.with advisors for an hour there And in the last half an hour,

:35:45. > :35:48.Jeremy Corbyn has arrived He was greeted by jubilant campaign

:35:49. > :35:53.workers and advisors. The Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell

:35:54. > :36:21.has said that they have no intention Good morning once again. As we have

:36:22. > :36:24.just heard, Theresa May, the Prime Minister, back in Downing Street,

:36:25. > :36:30.contemplating the results of an extremely difficult night for the

:36:31. > :36:34.Conservatives. Emerging from this 2017 election campaign with no

:36:35. > :36:38.majority at all in the House of Commons, having to contemplate

:36:39. > :36:41.building some kind of arrangement with the unionists in Northern

:36:42. > :36:46.Ireland in order to get a majority in the Commons. We are looking at a

:36:47. > :36:50.hung parliament, a very uncertain situation. Not just in terms of

:36:51. > :36:55.Westminster, but in terms of the very, very critical Brexit talks

:36:56. > :36:59.which are meant to be starting in about ten days' time. Let's go

:37:00. > :37:01.straight to Downing Street, Laura Kuenssberg our political editor,

:37:02. > :37:08.what do you have for us this morning? Huw, what a morning. We

:37:09. > :37:12.understand Theresa May is holed up inside, contemplating how she is

:37:13. > :37:17.going to try to do a deal with the DUP, to come out with a viable

:37:18. > :37:21.government. Having had her hopes so fundamentally dashed, her political

:37:22. > :37:25.gamble having gone so badly wrong for the Conservatives. In the last

:37:26. > :37:29.half an hour, I have spoken to a couple of senior Conservatives. A

:37:30. > :37:34.senior member of the Cabinet has pulled me that she will stay. She

:37:35. > :37:37.will not change her mind. And although you say her political

:37:38. > :37:43.authority is shot and drained away, the argument is her constitutional

:37:44. > :37:48.responsible to an prerogative to hang on and try to form a

:37:49. > :37:52.government... Not just that, they are talking about imagining the

:37:53. > :37:56.alternative. Imagine if the Conservative Party, normally so

:37:57. > :38:00.ruthless, ends up with a leadership challenge. It's almost inevitable

:38:01. > :38:04.that one of the rivals would want to call an election or said they needed

:38:05. > :38:08.their own mandate, and then we are back at a general election. The one

:38:09. > :38:13.thing everyone in the Tory party can agree on this morning is that is

:38:14. > :38:17.something none of them want. Another senior Conservative who has talked

:38:18. > :38:21.directly to Theresa May told me she is resolute in the fact that she is

:38:22. > :38:26.not going anywhere. There is a bit of a sense of Tories starting to

:38:27. > :38:45.rally around, but a bit of a spanner in the

:38:46. > :38:49.works in the last few minutes, the leader of the DUP, who would be

:38:50. > :38:51.vital for Theresa May's prospects of staying on, has suggested in an

:38:52. > :38:54.interview with BBC Ulster that it may be very difficult for her to

:38:55. > :38:56.survive. If the DUP don't play ball, the calculus inside Number Ten

:38:57. > :38:58.completely changes this morning. In terms of concluding anything, I can

:38:59. > :39:01.conclude that it feels very fluid. Extremely fluid. Are you expecting

:39:02. > :39:05.to see the Prime Minister, will she make a statement? What will the

:39:06. > :39:09.morning bring? It would be unprecedented if we don't, let's put

:39:10. > :39:14.it that way. The normal routine of these things is, win or lose, Prime

:39:15. > :39:19.Ministers emerge from the door when the result is settled. Or they have

:39:20. > :39:24.a sweeping victory walk up Downing Street, with their family, their

:39:25. > :39:26.spouse or whatever. So much of this election has been unusual and

:39:27. > :39:32.unprecedented that perhaps we will not. The optics of Theresa May

:39:33. > :39:37.staying holed up inside Number Ten and not coming out at all would be

:39:38. > :39:42.extraordinary and would not look very good. But also, traditionally

:39:43. > :39:47.in these circumstances, the chairman of the 1922 committee, the group

:39:48. > :39:50.representing Tory backbenchers would traditionally have some kind of

:39:51. > :39:55.conversation with the party leader for they conclude what to do. The

:39:56. > :40:00.chairman of the 1922 committee right now is Graham Brady. My sense from

:40:01. > :40:04.sources close to him is he believes she should try to stay on. It may be

:40:05. > :40:08.that until that conversation takes place, we are not going to see

:40:09. > :40:11.anything from the Prime Minister. All we have had is guidance from

:40:12. > :40:18.Tory sources that she's planning to stay on. We have not had anything

:40:19. > :40:22.official in any way, shape or form. Bear with us. In a moment we will

:40:23. > :40:29.get a statement from Jeremy Corbyn. He is about to speak.

:40:30. > :40:35.It's clear the Conservatives are going to try and form a minority

:40:36. > :40:40.government, perhaps with the DUP. Are you going to try and block the

:40:41. > :40:46.move or are you going to be prepared to offer a compromise? What we were

:40:47. > :40:51.elected to do was put forward a programme, which is about ending

:40:52. > :40:55.austerity in Britain, is about supporting our National Health

:40:56. > :40:59.Service and social care service, is about proper funding of our

:41:00. > :41:05.education service and is about improving the lives of people in

:41:06. > :41:10.this country through protection of the triple-lock on pensions, for

:41:11. > :41:14.example. You sound like a man who is preparing to try and form the next

:41:15. > :41:18.government. We are ready to serve this country. That is what we fought

:41:19. > :41:23.the election for, and this is the programme we put forward. But you

:41:24. > :41:28.have also said no deals and no pacts. Is that also the case? We are

:41:29. > :41:32.offering to put forward the programme on which we fought the

:41:33. > :41:37.election. We have done no deals with anybody. We are there as the Labour

:41:38. > :41:40.Party to put our points of view, everyone knows what they are and

:41:41. > :41:44.everyone can see the huge increase in our support because of the way we

:41:45. > :41:48.conduct of the election and the comprehensive nature of the

:41:49. > :41:53.programme we put forward. Do you envisage that you would be able to

:41:54. > :41:57.form a minority government? Or are we heading, as many people are

:41:58. > :42:02.predicting, for another general election? Parliament must meet, and

:42:03. > :42:05.Parliament will have to take a decision on what happens when a

:42:06. > :42:10.government puts forward the Queen's Speech. We will put forward our

:42:11. > :42:16.point of view. We are of course ready to serve. Do you think in all

:42:17. > :42:19.this uncertainty that the Brexit negotiations should be delayed? They

:42:20. > :42:26.are supposed to be happening in 11 days. They have to go ahead. Who is

:42:27. > :42:30.going to do it? The Government in office in 11 days will have to

:42:31. > :42:35.conduct the Brexit negotiations. Our position is clear, we want a job 's

:42:36. > :42:43.first Brexit. So the most important thing is the trade deal with Europe.

:42:44. > :42:46.A good idea for Parliament would be to vote that EU nationals can remain

:42:47. > :42:51.in Britain. Do you think there should be a delay to Article 50 or

:42:52. > :42:55.any delay whatsoever to the negotiations? That decision has to

:42:56. > :42:59.be taken either parties in the negotiations. We are ready to

:43:00. > :43:02.negotiate on behalf of this country to protect jobs and to have a

:43:03. > :43:07.sensible, tariff free trade arrangement with Europe. Do you

:43:08. > :43:12.think Theresa May should resign? I said so last night, that she fought

:43:13. > :43:15.the election on the basis that it was her campaign, it was her

:43:16. > :43:19.decision to call the election, it was her name out there, and she said

:43:20. > :43:23.she was doing it to bring about strong and stable government. This

:43:24. > :43:26.morning, it doesn't look like a strong government, it doesn't look

:43:27. > :43:30.like a stable government, it doesn't look like a government that has any

:43:31. > :43:38.programme whatsoever. You can't put forward a stable government either.

:43:39. > :43:42.Maybe you should resign. We have just been elected to Parliament only

:43:43. > :43:45.a few hours ago, my party has had a huge increase in the vote, we have

:43:46. > :43:51.gained seats in every region of this country and in Scotland and Wales. I

:43:52. > :43:55.think everyone in the Labour Party, and everyone who supported the

:43:56. > :43:58.Labour Party yesterday, young people, old people, everyone in

:43:59. > :44:03.between, I think they should be very proud of what we achieved yesterday.

:44:04. > :44:07.Just to be clear, are you saying you are the victors, and you should be

:44:08. > :44:11.forming the next government? We put forward strong and hopeful policies

:44:12. > :44:15.and they have gained an amazing response and traction. I think it is

:44:16. > :44:19.pretty clear who won this election. So you should be forming the next

:44:20. > :44:23.government? We are ready to serve the people who have given their

:44:24. > :44:30.trust to us. Jeremy Corbyn, thank you very much. Labour leader Jeremy

:44:31. > :44:34.Corbyn saying that Labour is ready to serve and that the Brexit talks

:44:35. > :44:38.will have to go ahead as planned, on the timetable set out under Article

:44:39. > :44:44.50. Mr Corbyn's close colleague John McDonnell is with Andrew Neil.

:44:45. > :44:50.He is indeed, John McDonnell, welcome, Shadow Chancellor

:44:51. > :44:53.throughout the Corbyn years. Labour has now lost three elections in a

:44:54. > :44:58.row. Where does that leave your party? Disappointed we are not

:44:59. > :45:03.forming a majority government, but looking back on the last six weeks

:45:04. > :45:07.or so... Six weeks ago, we were 22 points behind in the polls. I was

:45:08. > :45:11.predicting that would narrow, no one believed me at the time. The

:45:12. > :45:16.achievement of this campaign has been tremendous. Did you think it

:45:17. > :45:20.would go this well for Labour? I knew that the polls would narrow and

:45:21. > :45:24.we would pick up additional seats. We have been on the ground around

:45:25. > :45:27.the country and listening. The activist base is feeding back

:45:28. > :45:31.messages of confidence so we thought, yes, we would be. Still not

:45:32. > :45:35.a majority government so I am disappointed but we have laid the

:45:36. > :45:39.foundations for the potential of a minority government and eventually a

:45:40. > :45:45.majority government. We have both been around long enough to remember

:45:46. > :45:49.1974, two general elections. The first one produced a hung parliament

:45:50. > :45:53.although it did produce a change of government too. We have yet to see

:45:54. > :45:58.that will happen. What are the chances of a second election this

:45:59. > :46:03.year or early next year? The interesting thing about the first

:46:04. > :46:06.election in 1974, Ted Heath went to the country with one question, who

:46:07. > :46:10.governs the country? The people said that's not the question, it is about

:46:11. > :46:14.our living standards. That is exactly what has happened this time.

:46:15. > :46:20.I was amazed Theresa May used that tactic. I was amazed she called the

:46:21. > :46:25.election. I could see the short-term advantage. I said the lead could

:46:26. > :46:30.easily disappear. The instability that we now have is not from the

:46:31. > :46:34.Labour Party or other parties, it is the Conservative Party itself. If we

:46:35. > :46:38.can form a minority government, I think we can have a stable

:46:39. > :46:42.government and produce eggs received programme a budget based on our

:46:43. > :46:52.manifesto, which I think could majority support. Policy by policy.

:46:53. > :46:57.That would prevent another election, because I think it will have had

:46:58. > :47:01.enough of elections. It is an interesting prospect. We know that

:47:02. > :47:05.Mrs May as we speak is trying to put together a government, trying to do

:47:06. > :47:10.a deal with the DUP - you also, Labour, speaking to the other

:47:11. > :47:17.parties, the SNP, the Greens, to try and get a minority government? No.

:47:18. > :47:21.We are not looking for a coalition. We will set out our policy programme

:47:22. > :47:25.and we will expect people to vote for it. The problem that we've got

:47:26. > :47:28.is, I don't think the Conservative Party, particularly under Theresa

:47:29. > :47:31.May, is a stable coalition in itself. I think that will fall

:47:32. > :47:36.apart. We've already seen this morning Tory MPs calling upon

:47:37. > :47:41.Theresa May to go, saying her position is untenable. We've got

:47:42. > :47:44.worse Johnson and David Davis on manoeuvres at the moment in terms of

:47:45. > :47:47.leadership. I don't think they can form a stable government. So

:47:48. > :47:50.therefore, although we have not got a naughty, which I deeply regret,

:47:51. > :47:53.forming a minority government I think is the best opportunity we

:47:54. > :47:58.have got the government which will be stable and in the interest of the

:47:59. > :48:02.country. The Theresa May was rejected, I believe, is because she

:48:03. > :48:07.put party advantage before country, and it was so blatant, and people

:48:08. > :48:12.rejected it. I take your point that a Theresa May government, the way

:48:13. > :48:15.she is trying to do it, could be unstable, but why would a minority

:48:16. > :48:19.Labour government, with no deals, you are saying, with any of the

:48:20. > :48:24.other left-wing parties, why could that be any more stable? Because we

:48:25. > :48:30.would be able to think our policy programme based on our manifesto, on

:48:31. > :48:34.a set of popular policies, which large numbers of MPs would support

:48:35. > :48:40.and would not want to be seen to be voting against. Would you take your

:48:41. > :48:42.manifesto and reconfigure that for a Queen's Speech, designed in a way

:48:43. > :48:48.which would get the broadest support? That's what we were going

:48:49. > :48:51.to do anyway. We would set out a timetable of fermentation. Say for

:48:52. > :48:55.example, we put forward the abolition of tuition fees. It is a

:48:56. > :49:00.lecturer in the popular policy, both in the country... Stream the

:49:01. > :49:05.expensive. It was but we costed it and we can afford it, with a fair

:49:06. > :49:09.taxation system, which we can. I dare any MP to vote against that,

:49:10. > :49:14.they would be grimly unpopular, if they did. They would be extremely

:49:15. > :49:19.unpopular if they did that. On that basis, we can do it. If Mrs May

:49:20. > :49:24.succeeds for a while in putting together a government of sorts, but

:49:25. > :49:31.it turns out to be unstable, you would be there, expecting the Queen

:49:32. > :49:36.to ask you all Mr Corbyn to try to form a government? I hope it isn't

:49:37. > :49:40.like that over a period of time. I hope she realises today, very

:49:41. > :49:43.quickly, that she cannot continue. I think the Conservative Party needs

:49:44. > :49:47.to recognise that it cannot re-enter government in the way that it is at

:49:48. > :49:52.the moment, it is unstable and divided. Allow us, therefore, we

:49:53. > :49:57.will be the only alternative to put forward a stable government. The SNP

:49:58. > :50:05.still have 35 MPs, if they said to you, and they have said, in general

:50:06. > :50:08.terms, we are up for a progressive government, but we want a second

:50:09. > :50:13.independence referendum, would you give that to them? No deals, no

:50:14. > :50:16.coalition is. We have put forward our policies. If the SNP want to

:50:17. > :50:22.vote for some of them, that is up to them. Politics, as you and I know,

:50:23. > :50:30.is about deals. You cannot run a minority government without deals.

:50:31. > :50:37.That is the sort of... We have all seem Borgen! Jeremy Corbyn, straight

:50:38. > :50:41.talking, honest politics, that is what people want to. That is what I

:50:42. > :50:45.believe in, and this is what I'm going to do. People support that

:50:46. > :50:52.type of politics. But you would buy dishy -- but you would by definition

:50:53. > :50:56.be a government which is actually lost the election. The Tories have

:50:57. > :51:01.won it and you have lost it. That is the dilemma everyone has got. Nobody

:51:02. > :51:04.has hosted this election, so who is best to form a stable government in

:51:05. > :51:08.the interest of the people? We believe the Labour Party can do

:51:09. > :51:12.that. Just give us the chance. How long do you think it will take it

:51:13. > :51:16.for you can see this happening? I am hoping the situation is clarified

:51:17. > :51:21.within days, otherwise we are in an impossible position with the Brexit

:51:22. > :51:23.negotiations coming. So I think the responsibility is now on Theresa May

:51:24. > :51:29.to stand down and on the Conservative Party to go away and

:51:30. > :51:34.sort itself out and let the Labour government take its place. One final

:51:35. > :51:37.point to you check if in your view what Mrs May is trying to do will

:51:38. > :51:44.lead to a unstable government, if it leads to KIND of government, it will

:51:45. > :51:48.be unstable, and if it is a minority Labour government which is doing no

:51:49. > :51:52.deals, I would suggest to you, that is unstable as well, and we will be

:51:53. > :51:55.having a second election quite soon? I believe that with sufficient

:51:56. > :51:59.political skill, a minority government will be able to provide

:52:00. > :52:02.stable government, but at a government as well, because it would

:52:03. > :52:08.be based upon policies which are popular both in parliament and in

:52:09. > :52:15.the country. We shall see. Back to you, dew. Thank you very much. I

:52:16. > :52:20.think it fair to say that we will be analysing every word of that now,

:52:21. > :52:25.asking ourselves whether John McDonnell's theory, that it would be

:52:26. > :52:30.possible for Labour to form some kind of minority administration,

:52:31. > :52:34.with policies across the House, Andy? It is very, very hard to see.

:52:35. > :52:39.Politics is about authority and it is about power, or numbers. You

:52:40. > :52:43.could see in the Jeremy Corbyn interview, they think the momentum

:52:44. > :52:46.is with them, they have a big, new, moral authority which they are

:52:47. > :52:49.revelling in. But none of that means an awful lot in policy terms an

:52:50. > :52:55.issue have got the numbers in the House of Commons. John McDonnell was

:52:56. > :52:58.saying, our very popular policy on tuition fees, lets their people to

:52:59. > :53:02.put that down. That comes with a price tag. How many Conservative MPs

:53:03. > :53:08.do we think are going to vote in favour of Labour tax rises? It is a

:53:09. > :53:12.very, very engaging sort from John McDonnell, and he's going to produce

:53:13. > :53:17.his alternative Queen's Speech, I am told, but nevertheless Labour does

:53:18. > :53:22.not have the numbers and it is highly unlikely that that would

:53:23. > :53:27.happen. It is likely that we will come out of this with Theresa May

:53:28. > :53:35.leaning, albeit unhappily, on the DUP. Yes, that seems to be

:53:36. > :53:39.fantasyland, I cannot see any circumstances... If Theresa May

:53:40. > :53:42.cannot get the deal and she cannot get a Queen's Speech through, then

:53:43. > :53:51.we could go to Labour doing it, but they don't have the numbers, it is

:53:52. > :53:55.as simple as that. It is just a nonstarter. In those circumstances,

:53:56. > :54:01.I'm afraid we are back into a second election. So, that's why I think we

:54:02. > :54:07.will probably go with the Conservative minority. I'm not

:54:08. > :54:10.surprised by what the DUP are saying, this is classic negotiating

:54:11. > :54:15.strategy, they're holding out for as much as they can get. They know how

:54:16. > :54:20.to do it! They do indeed. They're sounding bullish, Labour, they

:54:21. > :54:23.would, and to some extent, this is their opportunity to do so. But I

:54:24. > :54:29.agree, it is about numbers. You've got to have the numbers to actually

:54:30. > :54:34.form a majority. Looking at now, they're not there. It is interesting

:54:35. > :54:39.that John McDonnell said, we made no deals before this election. If you

:54:40. > :54:45.remember, Ed Miliband suffered as a result of the implications that he

:54:46. > :54:49.would do a deal, or join forces with the SNP. But now, of course, we are

:54:50. > :54:54.in this situation, they're still saying, no deal, doing it on a

:54:55. > :54:57.policy by policy basis I'm not sure would lead to what he calls a stable

:54:58. > :55:01.government, any more stable than perhaps the one we are going to get

:55:02. > :55:06.currently. So, they're going to keep saying design, because that is

:55:07. > :55:09.really all they can say at this point - she should go. And

:55:10. > :55:13.obviously, then, everything comes into play. But at the moment that

:55:14. > :55:20.does not look like it is going to happen. More reports coming in from

:55:21. > :55:24.Conservative sources, from the Telegraph, Theresa May is likely to

:55:25. > :55:31.stay on, as we have been reporting, because she does not want to allow

:55:32. > :55:36.Brussels to delay the tempted talks. Let's take a look at some of the

:55:37. > :55:40.Labour targets and see how Labour has made this advance against the

:55:41. > :55:44.Conservatives. We have put the Labour battle ground on the board

:55:45. > :55:49.for you here. And you can see, the most marginal constituency they were

:55:50. > :55:57.targeting was Gowler, just 37 votes in it. These are very marginal seats

:55:58. > :56:02.which they had their eyes on because they were close to getting them last

:56:03. > :56:07.time. Let's see the actual results, now that we know them. As you would

:56:08. > :56:16.expect, the most marginal seats, Labour has gone through like a knife

:56:17. > :56:26.through butter. This was Ed Balls' old seat, which stays Conservative.

:56:27. > :56:29.Thurrock stays Conservative. And then gradually, the Conservatives

:56:30. > :56:35.start to hold onto more. Let's have a look at so more of them. Reggie,

:56:36. > :56:41.we increase the party majority in these target seats and they

:56:42. > :56:45.gradually become harder to win. So we have Stroud and Northampton North

:56:46. > :56:52.and so on. I peeked was a big one for Labour when Tony Blair was in

:56:53. > :57:02.power, so was Cannock Chase. -- High Peak. Down here, the Conservatives

:57:03. > :57:09.are escaping Labour's clutches. They take Enfield Southgate that is on a

:57:10. > :57:12.10% swing. East Lothian, Scottish situation, slightly different,

:57:13. > :57:20.they're beneficiaries of the severe downturn in the SNP vote. Let's keep

:57:21. > :57:23.going. By the time we get to the third board here, we are on seats

:57:24. > :57:30.with quite big majorities. On the last one, High Peak had a majority

:57:31. > :57:34.of 4800. Cleethorpes, a majority of 8000. These were the seats coming

:57:35. > :57:39.out of the last election. Many of these do not change. Yes, Reading

:57:40. > :57:48.East went Labour, so did Warwick and others. But you can see on this

:57:49. > :57:52.thought that as the majority increases, as you would expect, the

:57:53. > :57:57.Conservatives hanging onto the seats they were defending. One more board

:57:58. > :58:01.for you, targets, we are deep into seats which Labour never would have

:58:02. > :58:09.expected to get. Many of them SNP seats. And we see the results. We

:58:10. > :58:12.have only got the Scottish ones, plus Canterbury, overturning that

:58:13. > :58:17.10,000 majority of Julian Brazier in Canterbury. But the question we're

:58:18. > :58:20.asking is, how is it that Labour has advanced in a perfectly logical ways

:58:21. > :58:26.through some of these seats, but a then others, the Conservatives hung

:58:27. > :58:32.on? What was it about the seats where Labour made this proportion

:58:33. > :58:37.advance which allow them to take them? Well, let's break this down

:58:38. > :58:40.and take the seats they gained here. So, these are the seats which were

:58:41. > :58:48.on the Labour target list and which they gained, starting with the most

:58:49. > :58:52.marginal, Gower. We're going to highlight the seats which voted

:58:53. > :58:57.Remain. And this is the clue. If we look here, there is nothing to write

:58:58. > :59:00.home about, they simply to the seats with the smallest majorities, as you

:59:01. > :59:05.would expect. But as we go down the board, as these seats get harder and

:59:06. > :59:11.harder for Labour to win, what we find is that Labour only gain where

:59:12. > :59:16.the constituencies voted for Rowe, so, Remain constituencies somehow

:59:17. > :59:21.turbo-charged the Labour vote, isn't that interesting? And if you look at

:59:22. > :59:30.the seats Labour lost, it is even starker. Mansfield going

:59:31. > :59:35.Conservative. And those were seats which were Brexit seats, so they

:59:36. > :59:40.weren't comfortable territory for Labour. Just some analysis therefore

:59:41. > :59:44.you of the Labour vote, and we can sum it up by going to our big pie

:59:45. > :59:49.chart which breaks down the seats in the House of Commons like this

:59:50. > :59:51.struggle you can see the dotted line at 12 o'clock, which the

:59:52. > :59:58.Conservatives have fallen just short of. Back to you, Jo Edwards. Thank

:59:59. > :00:10.you very much, that gives us plenty to talk about. If you're watching in

:00:11. > :00:14.the regions of England, you're going to get 30 minutes of news which is

:00:15. > :00:19.specific to your area. If you're watching in Scotland, Wales or

:00:20. > :00:22.Northern Ireland or on the News Channel, you are staying with us.

:00:23. > :00:26.And we will be exported all of these themes. Who knows, we may even get a

:00:27. > :00:28.senior Conservative to come along and give us a response, we would

:00:29. > :00:46.certainly like that! Theresa May is determined to stay on

:00:47. > :00:49.as Conservative leader, the BBC understands, despite a difficult

:00:50. > :00:54.night that has led to a hung parliament. Her decision to call any

:00:55. > :00:58.early general election ended with her majority wiped out. The

:00:59. > :01:04.Conservatives are still the largest party with a predicted 318 MPs, and

:01:05. > :01:08.43% of the vote, but with 11 fewer MPs. The Labour share of the vote

:01:09. > :01:10.rose significantly, with the party predicted to gain more than 30

:01:11. > :01:14.seats. A political gamble -

:01:15. > :01:19.the hope that she would transform the Tories' fragile advantage

:01:20. > :01:22.in Parliament with a huge win. But the smiles of the campaign

:01:23. > :01:27.trail have vanished. The Conservatives are set to end up

:01:28. > :01:31.worse off with a hung Parliament. If, as the indications have shown,

:01:32. > :01:33.if this is correct, that the Conservative Party has won

:01:34. > :01:38.the most seats, and probably the most votes, then it will be

:01:39. > :01:43.incumbent on us to ensure we have that period of stability,

:01:44. > :01:48.and that is exactly what we will do. And you can see what

:01:49. > :01:52.the Labour leader makes A man whose campaign

:01:53. > :01:57.confounded many expectations. Beaming smiles, with Labour

:01:58. > :02:00.on course for a far better The Prime Minister called

:02:01. > :02:05.the election because Well, the mandate she's got

:02:06. > :02:10.is lost Conservative seats, lost votes, lost support

:02:11. > :02:13.and lost confidence. I would have thought

:02:14. > :02:18.that is enough to go, actually. In Battersea, Labour

:02:19. > :02:21.have ousted a government They increased their majority

:02:22. > :02:32.in Cambridge by 12,000, and they took Peterborough

:02:33. > :02:35.from the Conservatives, boosting their share of the vote

:02:36. > :02:39.by more than 12%. The Home Secretary Amber Rudd

:02:40. > :02:55.only just scraped home The former Business Secretary Vince

:02:56. > :02:59.Cable was among four gains for the Lib Dems, but they had a shock in

:03:00. > :03:02.Sheffield where their former leader Nick Clegg lost his seat.

:03:03. > :03:05.I, of course, have encountered this evening something that many people

:03:06. > :03:07.have encountered before tonight, and I suspect many people

:03:08. > :03:09.will encounter after tonight, which is in politics,

:03:10. > :03:11.you live by the sword and you die by the sword.

:03:12. > :03:17.The night began with a projection - the exit poll.

:03:18. > :03:23.With nearly all the results in, the Conservatives are the largest party

:03:24. > :03:28.but short of an overall majority, having lost around a dozen seats.

:03:29. > :03:33.Labour are on course to increase the number of MPs by around 30. The SNP

:03:34. > :03:36.have lost big names on a disappointing night compared with

:03:37. > :03:38.their Scottish landslide two years ago.

:03:39. > :03:40.Their Deputy Leader Angus Robertson was ousted by the Conservatives

:03:41. > :03:43.and their former leader Alex Salmond lost his seat too.

:03:44. > :03:46.Now one of Theresa May's own MPs is laying the blame on her.

:03:47. > :03:48.I think she's in a very difficult place.

:03:49. > :03:51.She's a remarkable and a very talented woman, and she doesn't shy

:03:52. > :03:53.from difficult decisions, but she now has to

:03:54. > :04:02.Jeremy Corbyn's vocal support is growing.

:04:03. > :04:05.Labour may be in a clear second, but his allies say they want

:04:06. > :04:21.Mrs May says she has no intention of standing down and is working

:04:22. > :04:25.She wanted a strong, stable and triumphant return

:04:26. > :04:29.She has ended up weakened, with fewer MPs and questions

:04:30. > :04:42.The Democratic Unionist Party makes a play a pivotal role and have

:04:43. > :04:46.already said they will make their influence felt. They took ten seats.

:04:47. > :04:48.Sinn Fein won seven seats but will continue to abstain

:04:49. > :04:55.The SDLP and the Ulster Unionist Party

:04:56. > :05:01.In Wales, the Labour Party had a strong night, taking back a number

:05:02. > :05:05.The results represent a blow to the Tory party, who had hoped

:05:06. > :05:09.Plaid Cymru won four seats, and the Liberal Democrats

:05:10. > :05:14.Ukip have failed to win any seats in Parliament.

:05:15. > :05:16.Their share of the vote collapsed across Britain,

:05:17. > :05:19.and their leader Paul Nuttall came third in Boston and Skegness.

:05:20. > :05:22.The Green Party remain unchanged, with one seat.

:05:23. > :05:27.The party co-leader Caroline Lucas, who held Brighton Pavilion.

:05:28. > :05:32.Their share of the vote was down, reflecting the swing to the big

:05:33. > :05:44.parties. Good morning once again from the

:05:45. > :05:47.BBC's Election Centre. If you are just joining us, well, you are

:05:48. > :05:51.waking up to the news that there is to be a hung parliament. It's not

:05:52. > :05:54.going to be a majority Government of any colour. Certainly not

:05:55. > :05:58.Conservative, given some of the predictions that we were used to in

:05:59. > :06:05.recent weeks. This is where we are with three seats to declare. So, 647

:06:06. > :06:09.in. And the prediction is Conservatives on 316, ten short of a

:06:10. > :06:14.majority in the House of Commons. Labour on 261. We are looking at

:06:15. > :06:18.gains of 29 seats for Labour and losses of 12 seats for the

:06:19. > :06:22.Conservatives. Not where most people thought we would be this morning.

:06:23. > :06:25.So, it's a very unexpected result. It creates all kinds of uncertainty,

:06:26. > :06:29.not just in terms of the colour of the Government or indeed who will be

:06:30. > :06:32.Prime Minister, because there are questions about Theresa May's

:06:33. > :06:36.future, but of course in terms of the challenges that this Government

:06:37. > :06:40.has to tackle, the Brexit challenge principally which presents all kinds

:06:41. > :06:44.of obstacles and problems, that process starting within days. So,

:06:45. > :06:48.that's the context. To explain more about the result before I bring my

:06:49. > :06:53.guests in again, let's join Emily. I want to take you specifically to

:06:54. > :06:58.London. There is a very interesting result going on beneath the

:06:59. > :07:05.headline. It is this, Labour on 55% share of the vote. The Conservatives

:07:06. > :07:11.on 33%. Why am I pointing that out? ? They've had a good night in London

:07:12. > :07:15.and one seat is unresolved, because we understand the counters have gone

:07:16. > :07:20.home believing it was too close to call. This seat, Kensington. We are

:07:21. > :07:27.in territory where Kensington is forecast as too close to call. This

:07:28. > :07:31.has never gone Labour. It would be an extraordinary result if it were

:07:32. > :07:36.to go Labour, I am not saying it will but I can show you three seats

:07:37. > :07:39.that border Kensington which are all showing extraordinary swings to

:07:40. > :07:45.Labour. You can see in Westminster, which is a Labour seat, the swing to

:07:46. > :07:50.Labour has been 11%. In these two seats which are true

:07:51. > :07:54.blue Tory, Chelsea and City of London, contains Knightsbridge and

:07:55. > :08:01.the City, 10% swing to Labour. 9. 3% swing to Labour. Kensington requires

:08:02. > :08:04.an 11% swing for Labour to take it. If Kensington goes red tonight, then

:08:05. > :08:10.Jeremy Corbyn has achieved something that Tony Blair never did, that seat

:08:11. > :08:14.has never been Labour. Emily, thank you very much. I am

:08:15. > :08:18.thinking at the moment we are getting more reaction coming in,

:08:19. > :08:26.especially in the context of the EU because this is a crucial context

:08:27. > :08:30.for us, so the latest is - the leader of the dominant Conservative

:08:31. > :08:35.group in particle. He is saying the clock is ticking for Brexit. There

:08:36. > :08:42.is going to be pressure on this timetable. We also heard from the

:08:43. > :08:46.leading negotiator within the parliament for the liberal block

:08:47. > :08:52.within the European Parliament and he.

:08:53. > :08:58.Mitchell Barnier, the man leading the negotiations for the EU, all

:08:59. > :09:03.ready to go, all in place, as soon as this election was over to start

:09:04. > :09:06.those Brexit negotiations, I have heard that actually that date that

:09:07. > :09:11.we have been saying was not cast in stone, that was the aim. The aim was

:09:12. > :09:19.to pick up on those Brexit negotiations within ten days' time.

:09:20. > :09:23.But it is a moveable feast. Let me say more about him, leader of the

:09:24. > :09:28.big Conservative group, not just saying the clock is ticking, the UK

:09:29. > :09:30.needs a Government soon, the date for the beginning of the

:09:31. > :09:36.negotiations is unclear and then he goes on to say the EU is united, the

:09:37. > :09:39.UK is deeply split. The Prime Minister May wanted stability but

:09:40. > :09:47.has brought chaos to her country instead. That's really laying it on

:09:48. > :09:50.the line. That really is and significantly Martin Schulz, a

:09:51. > :09:54.powerful important politician in these negotiations, has

:09:55. > :09:57.congratulated Jeremy Corbyn on his performance and agreed to meet

:09:58. > :10:01.Jeremy Corbyn and said this is the end of the British plan for hard

:10:02. > :10:08.Brexit. More to the point, I am wondering is it as some people are

:10:09. > :10:13.saying, is the ex-from Brexit coming? For that to happen you need

:10:14. > :10:17.a politician with the votes in the House of Commons to actually hit the

:10:18. > :10:21.halt button. I don't see who that could possibly be at this stage. It

:10:22. > :10:25.looks as if there are numbers to have a different kind of Brexit to

:10:26. > :10:31.the one being talked about. If the pressure is going to come within the

:10:32. > :10:34.European Parliament and as you say the main Conservative block in the

:10:35. > :10:37.European Parliament, that actually now the way is wide open for a

:10:38. > :10:41.different sort of negotiation, she's going to be under a lot of pressure,

:10:42. > :10:44.Theresa May, to rethink what the lines are going to be because she

:10:45. > :10:47.will need the support in the House of Commons behind her. What will the

:10:48. > :10:51.Cabinet Secretary and the senior team around the Cabinet Secretary be

:10:52. > :10:56.thinking about this process at this stage? They'll be saying this was

:10:57. > :11:01.always going to be a difficult process. Trying to get these

:11:02. > :11:04.detailed negotiations done in two years, which is what Article 50

:11:05. > :11:09.requires, is an incredibly complex task, which most people thought

:11:10. > :11:14.would only be done in the sense of a few headlines arrangements and then

:11:15. > :11:17.a transitional deal thereafter or implementation plan to use Theresa

:11:18. > :11:21.May's words. That's become harder because at the moment the civil

:11:22. > :11:27.servants will be saying, so, what is our negotiating position? We know

:11:28. > :11:33.what the EU 27's position is. Has our position changed? Earlier we

:11:34. > :11:36.were reporting someone in the EU saying actually this is looking more

:11:37. > :11:39.flexible, but they're saying the clock is ticking and the uncertainty

:11:40. > :11:44.is on the British side. From our point of view, this timetable has

:11:45. > :11:49.started. Exactly. So, we do need very quickly to start putting

:11:50. > :11:53.together some issues about what are we going to learn from this

:11:54. > :11:57.election? Does it mean a softer Brexit, are we going to stick with

:11:58. > :12:01.the single market, look again at free movement? All those sorts of

:12:02. > :12:06.issues come back. There are key issues like the fate of EU

:12:07. > :12:12.nationals. During the election campaign Labour wanted that and the

:12:13. > :12:15.Liberal Democrats wanted that to be unilaterally done by the British

:12:16. > :12:20.Government and that was going to be part of the negotiations, will that

:12:21. > :12:25.change? The divorce bill... That's the crucial thing. It's over these

:12:26. > :12:29.things that have already been put out there and we know that the

:12:30. > :12:34.Government under Theresa May before said they wouldn't pay anything like

:12:35. > :12:39.100 billion euros which was one of the figures put out there. Is that

:12:40. > :12:42.going to be sorted first? Or will it become part of the negotiations? She

:12:43. > :12:48.is in a weaker position than before. One thing I wanted to bring in,

:12:49. > :12:50.sorry to move around a bit, but it's a very important statement that John

:12:51. > :12:55.Swinney of the SNP has made about the future of Scotland. Really

:12:56. > :12:58.important. For people who don't know John Swinney, a very important

:12:59. > :13:02.figure in the SNP in Scotland, probably now after Alex Salmond

:13:03. > :13:08.second only to Nicola Sturgeon and he said this morning that the issue

:13:09. > :13:12.of indyref 2 explains a lot about why the SNP did so badly in many

:13:13. > :13:17.seats and lost many seats and said we have to take time and care to

:13:18. > :13:21.reflect on the result and have to acknowledge that the question of a

:13:22. > :13:26.second referendum was a significant motivator of votes against the SNP

:13:27. > :13:30.in this election and we have to be attentive to that point. That's

:13:31. > :13:33.close to a senior member of the SNP saying we are giving up on indyref

:13:34. > :13:52.2. We will pick up on that. A year Craig obstacle injury is indeed with

:13:53. > :13:59.me. Big cheese in David Cameron's Downing Street. If you were still in

:14:00. > :14:04.that job, what would you be advertising MrsMay to do? She takes

:14:05. > :14:07.to take soundings from the Conservative and find out how much

:14:08. > :14:10.support. The indications are the Conservative Party seems to be

:14:11. > :14:13.saying we need another leadership election like a hole in the head.

:14:14. > :14:17.That doesn't mean to say she's out of the woods. The pressure is going

:14:18. > :14:22.to be intense but I think she's probably going to see herself

:14:23. > :14:26.through today. However you spin it, is not the harsh reality that

:14:27. > :14:32.Theresa May is a Liam duck Prime Minister now? It's extraordinary

:14:33. > :14:34.difficult if she forms a Government to have a legislative programme

:14:35. > :14:40.meaningful in any way. Any Government at the moment to going to

:14:41. > :14:42.have to do difficult things, look at what survived the Conservative

:14:43. > :14:45.manifesto like getting rid of school lunches, that kind of thing. If you

:14:46. > :14:49.have a majority of two or three that's going to be voted down in the

:14:50. > :14:53.House of Commons. Anything difficult is going to constantly come up

:14:54. > :14:56.against that. You are faced with a prospect of a Government limping on

:14:57. > :15:01.maybe for a few months and maybe another election. Lots of

:15:02. > :15:06.instability. And she would be dependent for a majority, if that,

:15:07. > :15:11.on the DUP in Northern Ireland. Arlene Foster has said this morning,

:15:12. > :15:15.head of the DUP, it may be quite hard for MrsMay to survive. Exactly

:15:16. > :15:20.that. But even if she did manage to do a deal with the DUP she has her

:15:21. > :15:28.own backbenchers with their own wants and needs and concerns. Look

:15:29. > :15:34.at somebody like Nicky Morgan and Anna Soubrey and people like John

:15:35. > :15:37.Redwood, the gulf between these people is enormous and when you have

:15:38. > :15:40.legislation that's also difficult you face the possibility of being

:15:41. > :15:44.voted down by your own party, never mind doing a deal with the DUP. You

:15:45. > :15:49.know the Tory Party and backbenchers, the only thing that

:15:50. > :15:53.really succeeds in the Tory Party is success. And lots of Tories will now

:15:54. > :15:57.regard Theresa May as a failure. I think that is true, they will feel

:15:58. > :16:01.they were taken into an election believing on the back of her name

:16:02. > :16:05.they were going to get an increased majority and she didn't deliver

:16:06. > :16:09.that, that's a problem. It is a big problem. But perhaps an even bigger

:16:10. > :16:12.problem is do we really want to be having another leadership election

:16:13. > :16:15.now and doing that at a time when the Labour Party, I think it's out

:16:16. > :16:20.of the realms of possibility, but the Labour Party is saying maybe we

:16:21. > :16:23.could form a Government. Well, that would suggest to me then that the

:16:24. > :16:28.Conservatives are between a rock and a hard place. They've got a lame

:16:29. > :16:31.duck leader, but no stomach for another leadership election. They're

:16:32. > :16:34.in an extremely difficult position. I think what will happen is by the

:16:35. > :16:40.end of this weekend we will have a sense when people have been able to

:16:41. > :16:43.phone each other, you will get a sense of what's going on and what's

:16:44. > :16:47.going to happen. At the moment I think they don't feel they've got

:16:48. > :16:51.the stomach for the fight. But you will have people agitating and

:16:52. > :16:54.saying, you said you could deliver this, you said we could go into

:16:55. > :16:59.Brexit negotiations stronger and we are not stronger. And it's all made

:17:00. > :17:03.all the worse for many Tories, Wye suggest, because it's entirely

:17:04. > :17:06.self-inflicted. The decision was taken to have an election by Theresa

:17:07. > :17:10.May. Now to be fair she was worried about the House of Lords because it

:17:11. > :17:12.wasn't in a manifesto what they were planning to do in Brexit. Lots of

:17:13. > :17:16.people in the House of Lords were saying we can play around with this

:17:17. > :17:19.as much as we want. She felt she needed a mandate to deliver that and

:17:20. > :17:23.to be fair that's the case. She was also tempted by the fact people were

:17:24. > :17:27.putting in front of her, look, you have four million Ukip votes up for

:17:28. > :17:31.grabs, we can take them all and have a majority. It could be a chance to

:17:32. > :17:36.put the Labour Party to the sword. Of course, all of that came to

:17:37. > :17:40.nothing. Why was the Tory campaign such a shambles? I think there is an

:17:41. > :17:42.enormous number of reasons that you have been going through in these

:17:43. > :17:46.interviews. One I would like to add is I would like to know what data

:17:47. > :17:52.they were working on. Because it sounds to me like some of the very

:17:53. > :17:55.punchy tweets coming out of HQ and some of the strategists saying,

:17:56. > :17:58.YouGov you have to wrong, let's see what happens on the night. Well, we

:17:59. > :18:00.did see what happened on the night. It appears that the data they were

:18:01. > :18:10.working on was not that accurate. We were told throughout the campaign

:18:11. > :18:15.to ignore the polls, the polls have not got it right, the ground war

:18:16. > :18:19.shows the Tories are doing really well and the Tories will take a

:18:20. > :18:23.number of Labour seats in the Midlands at the North. That is based

:18:24. > :18:28.on the kind of data you are talking about, it is clear that was not

:18:29. > :18:34.accurate. Go it appears that is the case. The ground war in 2015 was

:18:35. > :18:40.remarkably successful and based on hyper targeted local campaigning. It

:18:41. > :18:43.appears the Conservative Party were going for seats they could not

:18:44. > :18:48.realistically get, putting resources in those seats and possibly leaving

:18:49. > :18:53.themselves bear elsewhere. She called this election because she

:18:54. > :18:57.wanted a mandate for Brexit, that was the ostensible purpose of doing

:18:58. > :19:01.it. She called it, of course, because she thought she could win

:19:02. > :19:06.and win big, see where that got her. She does not have a mandate for

:19:07. > :19:11.Brexit now. She put her Brexit manifesto in the Tory manifesto and

:19:12. > :19:15.the people have not voted for it. She is in I'm extraordinarily

:19:16. > :19:22.difficult position, if you are the European Union negotiating on this

:19:23. > :19:25.you will say that you started off with this number of MPs, now you

:19:26. > :19:28.have fewer, when you take this back to the British Parliament can we be

:19:29. > :19:33.sure you will get it through? It will make the negotiations tougher.

:19:34. > :19:41.If we were to return, not even with another election, but to talk again

:19:42. > :19:45.in maybe October, will Mrs May still be Prime Minister? Hard to tell, it

:19:46. > :19:49.looks extraordinary difficult at the moment but it is an incredibly

:19:50. > :19:54.volatile time in politics, lots of people making correct predictions

:19:55. > :19:58.but it looks tough at the moment. It is not exactly strong and stable, is

:19:59. > :20:05.it? Having got this was the Conservative Party will not be happy

:20:06. > :20:07.but that was the campaign slogan -- having got this result, the

:20:08. > :20:13.Conservative Party will not be happy. Let's go back to Huw Edwards

:20:14. > :20:17.at the BBC Election Centre. Craig Oliver, the master of

:20:18. > :20:22.understatement, talking to Andrew at the Palace of Westminster.

:20:23. > :20:27.More news from the European Union, some conflicting signals about how

:20:28. > :20:31.they are trying to read this result, but Michel Barnier, the chief

:20:32. > :20:35.negotiator for the European Commission, these Brexit talks, the

:20:36. > :20:39.man in charge of the process, what has he said?

:20:40. > :20:42.It is very interesting, he says Brexit negotiations should start

:20:43. > :20:47.when the UK is ready. In other words, they don't think the UK is

:20:48. > :20:51.ready right now after the election result last night. Timetable and EU

:20:52. > :20:58.positions, he says, are clear. They are ready and waiting. Let's put our

:20:59. > :21:01.minds together on striking a deal. It is interesting he feels there is

:21:02. > :21:06.no point starting these very complicated discussions that they

:21:07. > :21:09.will have until he is sure that he is dealing with, yes, the right

:21:10. > :21:16.person, but also the right offer they will put on the table. As we

:21:17. > :21:20.discussed before, a representative from The European People's Party

:21:21. > :21:24.Group said that the clock is ticking and we have started already, so the

:21:25. > :21:27.pressure from one side of the EU is on Theresa May, but on the other

:21:28. > :21:31.side they are saying I only want to talk to the person in charge who

:21:32. > :21:36.knows what they are doing. That tweet from the shop on EA is not an

:21:37. > :21:43.friendly, difficult or unhelpful, it common sense. -- that tweet from

:21:44. > :21:46.Michel Barnier. He is not anti-British, he is grand committee

:21:47. > :21:51.wants to negotiate with very senior ministers only but he is not

:21:52. > :21:53.difficult for Theresa May and they have a very crucial personal

:21:54. > :21:57.connection, they are both very friendly with former French Prime

:21:58. > :22:02.Minister Bernard Cazeneuve and there is a back channel between Michel

:22:03. > :22:06.Barnier aren't Theresa May. I am stuttering slightly because David

:22:07. > :22:09.Dimbleby's wretched fly has returned to the studio. He likes you

:22:10. > :22:18.excavation we thought we had killed him but he is. No flies on me! Some

:22:19. > :22:26.thoughts on the contribution from Michel Barnier? We have a formidable

:22:27. > :22:30.opponent against us. What he is saying is I will only talk when you

:22:31. > :22:35.know what you are talking about. But at the same time we are not moving

:22:36. > :22:39.the two year deadline, we are squeezing the time and you guys need

:22:40. > :22:46.to get your act together, that is basically it. I need to jump in, one

:22:47. > :22:50.important group inside the Conservative Party is calling for a

:22:51. > :22:54.leadership election. That's likely change as the

:22:55. > :22:58.temperature. There are other things on the domestic front, Brexit is the

:22:59. > :23:07.important negotiation ahead, but looking at domestic policy you have

:23:08. > :23:10.to ask how easy will it be... To have to go through cuts, for

:23:11. > :23:14.example. That was certainly on the table in terms of welfare. She had

:23:15. > :23:18.already struggled with some of her own backbenchers in terms of support

:23:19. > :23:21.for tax credits and the national insurance contributions, that will

:23:22. > :23:26.be difficult for her in the House of Commons. And also in the House of

:23:27. > :23:29.Lords. We are talking about changes to the composition of the House of

:23:30. > :23:34.Commons so the majority has come right down. The House of Lords is it

:23:35. > :23:40.correctly as it was before, it has a built-in majority the Conservatives.

:23:41. > :23:43.Basically it will be very difficult. What the Lords will do, they will

:23:44. > :23:49.not exceed their remit but they can throw things back to the Commons to

:23:50. > :23:53.think again. Every time you do that it means another vote. If you are

:23:54. > :23:57.running a minority government, the last thing you want votes in the

:23:58. > :24:01.Commons because you just need a few rebels and it falls. Getting

:24:02. > :24:07.difficult and tough choices like cuts through will be incredibly

:24:08. > :24:12.hard. A great moment to be a Tory backbencher, they will have a lot of

:24:13. > :24:15.fun. A lot of power. The Telegraph this Breaking Bad the Shadow

:24:16. > :24:19.Chancellor John McDonnell, who we heard repeating that Theresa May

:24:20. > :24:26.should resign earlier, is saying, that Theresa May has the week end to

:24:27. > :24:34.form a government or Labour will try to form a coalition. Goes, I know

:24:35. > :24:38.you need to go and it has been great having you with us, your expertise

:24:39. > :24:42.has been a lot of value. If you were in number ten this morning, would

:24:43. > :24:47.your expectation be that the Prime Minister would emerge and make a

:24:48. > :24:50.statement at some point? I think she has to. She will go and see the

:24:51. > :24:54.Queen at some point and she should come out and say here is the

:24:55. > :25:02.strategy, this is what we will do. I complete the accept that she needs

:25:03. > :25:06.time. -- I completely accept. The DUP are tricky. She needs to get

:25:07. > :25:10.together what she will come out and say and how she will take this

:25:11. > :25:18.forward. But the clock is ticking. She needs to get on with it. Thank

:25:19. > :25:23.you very much, Gus. We were talking about Labour and John McDonnell.

:25:24. > :25:27.Owen Smith has been waiting patiently in Cardiff, he challenged

:25:28. > :25:31.Mr Corbyn for the leadership. What are your thoughts on the Labour

:25:32. > :25:34.performance overnight? I am delighted we have retained so many

:25:35. > :25:39.fantastic colleagues and got 30 new colleagues, we have a 40% share of

:25:40. > :25:42.the vote, a very good night the Labour. Unfortunately we did not win

:25:43. > :25:47.but it is an excellent performance at Jeremy Corbyn is to be

:25:48. > :26:00.congratulated for it. What do you think Labour

:26:01. > :26:04.people and voters will make of the fact that you run a campaign because

:26:05. > :26:07.you thought, let's face it, he was a dead loss as leader? I was clearly

:26:08. > :26:10.wrong in feeling Jeremy would not be able to do this well. He has proven

:26:11. > :26:13.me and lots of people wrong. I take my hat off to him. Is it down to him

:26:14. > :26:18.as a leader or Labour's policies? I think it has to be both. I don't

:26:19. > :26:21.what he has but if we could bottle it and drink it we would all be

:26:22. > :26:26.doing very well. The manifesto, I know from my campaigning and other

:26:27. > :26:29.colleagues, was incredibly popular. People warmed to the radical ideas

:26:30. > :26:34.proposed in the manifesto, they want an end to was territory and to see a

:26:35. > :26:38.government investing in public services. -- they want an end to

:26:39. > :26:46.austerity. We heard that on the doorstep. We heard from people who

:26:47. > :26:48.had not voted for a long while and some had never voted before, they

:26:49. > :26:51.voted Labour, not just young people but people inspired by the policies

:26:52. > :27:00.and, it has to be said, by Jeremy, to votes Labour. Andrew Marr telling

:27:01. > :27:05.is that it is carried juice. Where do I get some at this time in the

:27:06. > :27:11.morning?! The allotment excavation just a thought on how things move

:27:12. > :27:14.on, Mr McDonnell has basically said that Labour is standing by to form a

:27:15. > :27:19.minority government, Gus O'Donnell has said the numbers do not make

:27:20. > :27:24.sense in that regard but the only viable option is the Conservatives

:27:25. > :27:28.with the help from the DUP. Is that how you see it? I see that Theresa

:27:29. > :27:32.May has made a catastrophic mistake, not just for the Tory party bid for

:27:33. > :27:37.the country. In some respects she was right, we need stability at the

:27:38. > :27:45.point of Brexit negotiations and she has left us with a lass stable

:27:46. > :27:47.situation to go into those negotiations. The Labour Party must

:27:48. > :27:53.stand by ready to form a government right now. -- she has left us with a

:27:54. > :27:58.lass stable situation. I hope we get a stable government and that the

:27:59. > :28:00.Labour Party is able to form it. I think the manifesto we all stood on

:28:01. > :28:06.last night would transform the country and I hope we get the

:28:07. > :28:10.possibility to put it into practice. When we get Michel Barnier, the EUG

:28:11. > :28:19.from negotiator, saying they are ready to talk when the UK is,

:28:20. > :28:23.clearly reflecting the deal of uncertainty, how rigid should the

:28:24. > :28:26.process be? I think there should be flexibility but what he said was a

:28:27. > :28:30.statement of fact, they can negotiate until they know who the

:28:31. > :28:34.government of Britain is and who their interlocutors are in the UK. I

:28:35. > :28:38.think that is why she has to get on with it. John McDonnell is right to

:28:39. > :28:43.say she needs to move quickly right now. She will want a few hours to

:28:44. > :28:51.reflect but I think it is incumbent on her as the Prime Minister who

:28:52. > :28:54.called the selection, which she did not need to, let's not forget, she

:28:55. > :28:57.had a majority and did not need to go to the country because of Brexit,

:28:58. > :29:00.she did it out of political opportunism because she thought she

:29:01. > :29:04.would crush the Labour Party and she has been completely undone.

:29:05. > :29:08.Unfortunately in her undoing she has left us in a less stable state of

:29:09. > :29:17.circumstances. Given your comments about Corbyn in the past, would you

:29:18. > :29:22.serve under him if he were asked? I would serve under any Labour leader,

:29:23. > :29:25.Jeremy has lots of people who worked brilliantly alongside him in the

:29:26. > :29:28.campaign, Andrew Gwynne and others were fantastic, I am sure he has

:29:29. > :29:34.many people he will be talking to and I wish him well. That is a very

:29:35. > :29:40.modest answer. Thank you for joining us. Owen Smith, the Labour MP.

:29:41. > :29:47.A final word before the news on where we stand this morning in terms

:29:48. > :29:52.of Theresa May's options, looking ahead. I am not talking weeks and

:29:53. > :29:56.months, the next few hours. She is the vicar's daughter, if she has one

:29:57. > :30:00.thing it is a sense of duty. She knows by now it has made a big, big

:30:01. > :30:04.political mistake. She took ownership, it was her campaign all

:30:05. > :30:08.the way, her mistake, therefore she has a duty to try to hold together

:30:09. > :30:19.the Government, pick up the pieces in the short-term. I am sure in ways

:30:20. > :30:21.she would love to go off running through wheat fields again or

:30:22. > :30:23.whatever she would be doing if not leading the Conservative Party and

:30:24. > :30:26.being Prime Minister, but the Tory party is not in a fit state for

:30:27. > :30:28.another leadership election and the country would be plunged into

:30:29. > :30:31.another period of total uncertainty at a crucial moment in the Brexit

:30:32. > :30:33.negotiations, I think duty calls and she will stay. Viewers are joining

:30:34. > :30:51.us from around the UK. We better say goodbye, Gus, thanks

:30:52. > :30:56.very much. The former Cabinet Secretary is leaving us. If you are

:30:57. > :30:59.just joined us at the BBC election centre, if for some reason you

:31:00. > :31:03.missed this morning's necessary or have been heavily asleep overnight.

:31:04. > :31:07.Let me tell you Theresa May is still Prime Minister this morning but

:31:08. > :31:13.doesn't have a majority in this new parliament. It is to be a hung

:31:14. > :31:18.parliament. The prospect at the moment seems to be that MrsMay will

:31:19. > :31:22.stay in power with the help of the DUP, that's not confirmed by the

:31:23. > :31:27.way, that's just the way that the figures are stacking up. It's been a

:31:28. > :31:31.remarkable night for Labour making a few gains. Of course the

:31:32. > :31:35.Conservatives suffering losses that they never thought they would

:31:36. > :31:39.suffer. We are nowhere near the solid impressive majority that so

:31:40. > :31:43.many commentators and indeed some of of the polls had been suggesting for

:31:44. > :31:48.the Conservatives up until that exit poll came last night. So, let's go

:31:49. > :31:51.straight to one important part of the story because the result in

:31:52. > :31:54.Scotland, showing heavy losses for the SNP with gains for the

:31:55. > :32:01.Conservatives and for Labour Party, let's join Lorna Gordon there.

:32:02. > :32:05.Yeah, the SNP here in Scotland won more seats than any other party by a

:32:06. > :32:10.large margin but really I think it's fair to say this was not a good

:32:11. > :32:16.result for them. Some of the big beasts of the SNP are gone. Alex

:32:17. > :32:21.Salmond gone. Angus Robertson gone, that SNP map of Scotland in 2015

:32:22. > :32:24.where Scotland was pretty much painted SNP yellow is a patchwork

:32:25. > :32:31.quilt. We have had comments in the last couple of hours. John Swinney

:32:32. > :32:35.saying the - acknowledged the result might show that the second

:32:36. > :32:39.independence referendum, the suggestion of that, was a

:32:40. > :32:44.significant motivator of votes in this election and that the SNP had

:32:45. > :32:50.to be attentive to that. They lost 21 seats. With me we have heard from

:32:51. > :32:54.politicians, we have heard from others, but what about voters? With

:32:55. > :33:03.me are four voters who have braved the rain here in Edinburgh this

:33:04. > :33:06.morning to have a chat. Selma, David, Kim and Robert. Thank

:33:07. > :33:09.you for joining us, what did you vote and what do you make of the

:33:10. > :33:13.result? I voted for the SNP but I think they have to remember that

:33:14. > :33:18.from 2010 to the moment Scotland still has one dominant party,

:33:19. > :33:23.whereas the UK now appears to have a very wounded Tory Party being

:33:24. > :33:26.propped up by the DUP. That doesn't sound strong and stable to me.

:33:27. > :33:30.Certainly doesn't look a good lead into Brexit. What's going to happen

:33:31. > :33:36.to local policies throughout the UK? A big drop for the SNP, what do you

:33:37. > :33:39.think went wrong? That was a readjustment after the 2015

:33:40. > :33:48.election. What is the big elephant in the room people don't want to

:33:49. > :33:51.talk about is 2014, you have 22-45 and that came about not with one

:33:52. > :33:56.political party, that came about through a grass roots movement that

:33:57. > :34:00.transcended class and area and that is what is going to revitalise

:34:01. > :34:05.Scotland. David, you voted Conservative. Of course they had a

:34:06. > :34:08.poor night across the UK, a good night here in Scotland. What

:34:09. > :34:13.happened, what went right for the Conservatives here in Scotland? I

:34:14. > :34:17.think Ruth Davidson is the real clue to what went on, she's a fantastic

:34:18. > :34:21.leader and the team in Scotland did a fantastic job of getting out and

:34:22. > :34:25.getting the vote out. What was the policy that the Tories were

:34:26. > :34:35.campaigning on that was really just one message? It was primarily on

:34:36. > :34:41.union and anti-indyref two. I voted SNP this time around. What do the

:34:42. > :34:44.Tories stand for, I don't know. Ruth Davidson is my MSP, I never managed

:34:45. > :34:49.to get her to say anything about policy, I have asked her views on

:34:50. > :34:53.certain things, not from any sort of attacking position, to find out what

:34:54. > :34:58.she stands for and I have no idea what they stand for. Nonetheless the

:34:59. > :35:01.SNP leadership itself seems to be acknowledging that a significant

:35:02. > :35:05.part of this vote, the drop in the number of MPs, they'll be returning

:35:06. > :35:11.to Westminster, is down to the fact this was a vote against a second

:35:12. > :35:14.independence referendum. Yeah, but we should be voting on policies. We

:35:15. > :35:18.are having a general election about which way we want to run the

:35:19. > :35:26.country, not about another referendum. Who did you vote for and

:35:27. > :35:30.why? Ian Murray, my Labour MP, he is an excellent constituency MP and I

:35:31. > :35:35.feel he needed the support, I am surprised and delighted so many more

:35:36. > :35:39.Labour MPs got in this time. Also because I feel strongly that I want

:35:40. > :35:44.to send a message that I don't want another referendum. I don't. It's

:35:45. > :35:48.curious, though, that you seem to be voting for a constituency MP on

:35:49. > :35:53.constituency reasons. But you look across Scotland, there has been a

:35:54. > :35:58.surge as well in the Labour vote, it seems to be down to Jeremy Corbyn

:35:59. > :36:03.but your MP is not a great fan of Jeremy Corbyn. I don't know that it

:36:04. > :36:10.is necessarily Jeremy Corbyn. I took the view that it was probably people

:36:11. > :36:13.voted SNP, having usually been a Labour supporter, have now got

:36:14. > :36:18.cheesed off with the SNP and what they keep banging on about and gone

:36:19. > :36:22.back to what they originally supported and believed in. That's my

:36:23. > :36:26.view, I don't know if that's supported by fact. What do you

:36:27. > :36:31.think? In view of the fact that every time Kezia Dugdale and Jeremy

:36:32. > :36:34.Corbyn got together, you got a disagreement, Kezia Dugdale can't

:36:35. > :36:43.keep the Scottish Labour Party together. Stirling constituency

:36:44. > :36:49.Labour Party said vote Tory. In Aberdeen there was a break away from

:36:50. > :36:52.the Labour Party. The whole thing is actually crumbling. That has what

:36:53. > :36:58.has allowed the Conservative Party to come back into Scotland. For

:36:59. > :37:03.Labour to be telling Labour to vote tactically, to vote for Tories, is

:37:04. > :37:07.unbelievable in Scotland. It will not continue. David, as a

:37:08. > :37:11.Conservative voter, do you think a second referendum is dead and

:37:12. > :37:15.buried? You can never say that. I think the SNP will come back with

:37:16. > :37:19.some story that would indicate it is still on the table. Definitely. My

:37:20. > :37:24.prediction is, this will sound crazy, the Tories will go back and

:37:25. > :37:30.say the SNP is wounded in Scotland, let's put this to bed forever, this

:37:31. > :37:35.referendum, they'll have it and then lose it. What do you make of that?

:37:36. > :37:38.Who, the Tories will lose again? Because the Tories consistently

:37:39. > :37:43.lose. You said it. Every time you call one of these referendum, you

:37:44. > :37:49.lose it! Tories consistently lose in Scotland! We are in confusing times.

:37:50. > :37:51.What is that Chinese curse, may you live in interesting times, we live

:37:52. > :37:57.in interesting times. Thank you very much for that. Never a truer word

:37:58. > :38:02.was said. We live in confusing and very interesting times. Not least

:38:03. > :38:07.here in Scotland. Lorna, thank you very much. Thank

:38:08. > :38:12.you to your guests too. 648 results have come in. We have two to go. One

:38:13. > :38:18.is Cornwall North. We are expecting the Conservatives to hold on. That

:38:19. > :38:23.would give them 318. That will take them up to 318. Our forecast is 319

:38:24. > :38:28.because that includes the forecast for Kensington. But as I was saying

:38:29. > :38:32.they've taken a break there because it's so tight and the word a while

:38:33. > :38:38.ago before they took a break to start counting again, was that

:38:39. > :38:43.Labour were just ahead. The Conservatives could end up, not on

:38:44. > :38:47.319 but on 318. That's the picture. Two results to come in. We are now

:38:48. > :38:51.certainly looking at, as we have been saying repeatedly, a hung

:38:52. > :38:58.parliament. A word from David Miliband. Yes, he tweeted saying

:38:59. > :39:02.wow. So good. Labour stronger, so good brutal Brexit rejected. So good

:39:03. > :39:06.next generation realised the stakes and spoke up. David Miliband of

:39:07. > :39:11.course wanted to be Labour leader. Beaten by his brother Ed Miliband

:39:12. > :39:16.who lost the election in 2015. There he is, from his position in New York

:39:17. > :39:21.saying that he thinks brutal Brexit has been rejected. And saying that

:39:22. > :39:23.is down to the younger generation. When the polls were looking and

:39:24. > :39:27.projecting what the result was going to be it looked as if the younger

:39:28. > :39:30.generation was going to come out in big numbers for Jeremy Corbyn but

:39:31. > :39:34.the fear was they might not come out and vote. It looks in some places as

:39:35. > :39:37.if they did. Thank you. I was mentioning Kensington. Look at these

:39:38. > :39:43.images. It tells you something about the state of exhaustion.

:39:44. > :39:51.After a very long night. We do symphathise. Yes, it's a weary look.

:39:52. > :39:56.That time already! And this is the team in Kensington

:39:57. > :40:02.where basically a short time ago they were all told you have had a

:40:03. > :40:06.very hard night, still no result. Then, you know, take a break. Come

:40:07. > :40:10.back later. We may not get a result in Kensington later today. It may

:40:11. > :40:14.even be tomorrow. So, let's fill in a little more detail on Kensington

:40:15. > :40:18.and go to Emily. I have been hearing off record there

:40:19. > :40:22.are about 35 votes in it. They've done a couple of recounts already

:40:23. > :40:26.that might explain the looks of utter exhaustion on the faces.

:40:27. > :40:30.Labour has been ahead in one of those recounts. If there are just 35

:40:31. > :40:33.votes in it you can see why they might have paused for a moment to

:40:34. > :40:37.make sure they're not missing things and seeing double. Dropping things

:40:38. > :40:43.on the floor. And have decided to suspend it to come back. It's

:40:44. > :40:49.incredibly tight. The reason for that is that the sitting MP for the

:40:50. > :40:53.Conservatives was a Brexiteer in a very Remaining part of London. We

:40:54. > :40:58.often talk in these terms on a night like tonight of swings and

:40:59. > :41:02.majorities and maths involved in a hung parliament and coalition. It

:41:03. > :41:05.all comes down to personalities. It is the political careers that we

:41:06. > :41:08.have been watching again on a night like tonight. I have picked out a

:41:09. > :41:13.few. They've really been the drama of the

:41:14. > :41:19.night. One is Sheffield Hallam, one of the most poignant images was

:41:20. > :41:28.seeing Nick Clegg lose his seat. He said I have never shirked from

:41:29. > :41:34.fighting political battles. He lost out here on a pretty tight race. He

:41:35. > :41:50.is no longer an MP. The Lib Dems losing out. Tim Farron held on in

:41:51. > :41:53.Westmorland and Lonsdale. Gordon, another big beast, Alex Salmond lost

:41:54. > :41:58.out to the Conservative Colin Clarke. Will he be having a word

:41:59. > :42:02.with Nicola Sturgeon perhaps about the kind of campaign that the SNP

:42:03. > :42:12.have run? Hastings, we were watching this with a lot of trepidation for

:42:13. > :42:17.Amber Rudd. She held on. The Labour Party will be disappointed to miss

:42:18. > :42:22.this, it would have been huge to take, the sitting Home Secretary.

:42:23. > :42:28.One more to bring you. Ipswich. This is Suffolk, we don't expect any red

:42:29. > :42:32.in a part of the world like this. But Ben Gummer, not only was one of

:42:33. > :42:36.the Cabinet Office ministers, but actually responsible for some of the

:42:37. > :42:43.manifesto writing and policies in it, lost his seat to sandy Martin.

:42:44. > :42:48.One person who has had an excellent night, the big green beast, Caroline

:42:49. > :42:52.Lucas who nearly doubled her majority in the only seat they hold.

:42:53. > :42:57.Thank you very much. Emily with the laitest and some of

:42:58. > :43:01.the personalities. We have been talking about the permutations for

:43:02. > :43:05.Government and talking about Theresa May probably having to rely on the

:43:06. > :43:13.DUP. Let's go to Belfast and Chris Page

:43:14. > :43:16.is there. Your thoughts on what the likely parameters will be, what will

:43:17. > :43:20.the conversation be like between Theresa May and the DUP? The DUP

:43:21. > :43:24.have found themselves in a position they've never been in before as

:43:25. > :43:27.potential King-makers in a hung parliament. Perhaps understandably

:43:28. > :43:30.they're not giving away too much publicly as to what the price for

:43:31. > :43:35.their support might be. But if you look at what they've said in the

:43:36. > :43:40.past about this and their manifesto this time around, you might get some

:43:41. > :43:44.clues. Back in 2015 when everybody expected a hung parliament that

:43:45. > :43:48.didn't actually happen in the end, the DUP spoke often of what they

:43:49. > :43:51.would do, what their attitude would be if they found themselves in a

:43:52. > :43:55.position of influence. On that occasion they said they wouldn't

:43:56. > :43:59.want to take Ministerial positions, but they would rather support a

:44:00. > :44:03.Government under a confidence and supply arrangement. This time they

:44:04. > :44:09.haven't specified whether they would ask for seats around the Cabinet

:44:10. > :44:13.table or if they would accept a confidence and supply move. As

:44:14. > :44:16.regards policies, they may ask for financial assistance for Northern

:44:17. > :44:19.Ireland, for the likes of infrastructure projects. If you look

:44:20. > :44:24.at their manifesto, some of the economic policies, well, on the

:44:25. > :44:27.broader issues they would want the triple-lock in pensions retained, a

:44:28. > :44:33.cut in VAT from tourism businesses, they would want the personal tax

:44:34. > :44:37.allowance increased. You may well get some discussion around draweder

:44:38. > :44:43.policy issues, not just matters that solely affect Northern Ireland. A

:44:44. > :44:46.big one will be Brexit. The DUP passionately supported Brexit. They

:44:47. > :44:55.were probably the most Eurosceptic party in the UK until the rise of

:44:56. > :44:59.Ukip. They may push for some flexibility for Northern Ireland, a

:45:00. > :45:01.stronger voice for Northern Ireland around the Brexit negotiating table

:45:02. > :45:05.and some flexibilities, particularly when it comes to that all-important

:45:06. > :45:09.issue of border controls between Northern Ireland and the Republic.

:45:10. > :45:14.They have said as Theresa May herself has said, that they want

:45:15. > :45:20.crossing the border to remain as seamless and expect that on the wish

:45:21. > :45:29.list. Thought on the broader picture in

:45:30. > :45:37.Northern Ireland? A strong motor for the DUP and Sinn Fein. Remarkable to

:45:38. > :45:41.see here the UUP, the SDLP and the Alliance with nothing. The DUP and

:45:42. > :45:46.Sinn Fein have taken their dominance politics in Northern Ireland to way

:45:47. > :45:50.whole new level. Very few if any predicted they would wipe out the

:45:51. > :45:56.nationalist SDLP and the Ulster Unionist Party, but that has

:45:57. > :46:02.happened overnight. DUP have gained two seeds, Sinn Fein have gained

:46:03. > :46:09.three, and Lady Sylvia Hermon is the only other MP in Northern Ireland,

:46:10. > :46:13.the independent unionist. The SDLP have no MPs at Westminster, there

:46:14. > :46:16.will be no Irish nationalist representation on the bench as the

:46:17. > :46:20.House of Commons because Sinn Fein, as Irish republicans, do not take

:46:21. > :46:25.their seats. The last century, the UUP was the fourth largest party in

:46:26. > :46:28.the House of Commons, that is a pub quiz questions and people have been

:46:29. > :46:33.asked excavation up now they are reduced to no MPs. The last time

:46:34. > :46:43.they won two seeds back after going without any MPs for five years, now

:46:44. > :46:45.their tally is zero once more. Thank you very much, Chris, in

:46:46. > :46:48.Belfast, with the latest on the picture in Northern Ireland, which

:46:49. > :46:50.is a very important picture of this Government jigsaw. What will

:46:51. > :46:55.Conservative backbenchers make of it? The former Deputy Speaker Nigel

:46:56. > :47:00.Evans joins us. We are reporting a very unexpected story in some ways,

:47:01. > :47:05.what do you make of it? Totally baffled. Normally when you win 42%

:47:06. > :47:10.of the National vote you expect a big majority, Tony Blair got that

:47:11. > :47:14.with 44%, a landslide. But did not happen for us. The question is why.

:47:15. > :47:19.The answer has to be that the campaign was going absolutely

:47:20. > :47:25.swimmingly until we launched our manifesto. And then on the horizon,

:47:26. > :47:28.way in the distance, the liner heading towards a landslide victory

:47:29. > :47:33.which none of this really believed, we thought we would get a big

:47:34. > :47:37.majority but nothing like 150 or 160, but we steered the line

:47:38. > :47:42.straight towards the iceberg called social care, the triple lock, winter

:47:43. > :47:45.weather payments and, quite frankly, that is all people wanted to talk

:47:46. > :47:51.about. For several days we derailed our own campaign, we very well

:47:52. > :47:54.hijacked our successful campaign and we were not talking about the Labour

:47:55. > :47:58.Party any more or what their policies were, we were talking about

:47:59. > :48:02.social care policies and trying to justify them. Then we had to clarify

:48:03. > :48:08.them and the whole thing went downhill. Who takes responsibility

:48:09. > :48:12.for that? I want to know, I want to know who was responsible for putting

:48:13. > :48:16.that in the manifesto and, quite frankly, there has to be... I know

:48:17. > :48:25.you will want to know whether I support Theresa May, the answer is

:48:26. > :48:27.yes. 43% of the vote, we did remarkably well in Scotland and we

:48:28. > :48:31.were making some games. But the fact is we had a whole range of seats we

:48:32. > :48:34.should have won, we could not win Lancaster and Fleetwood back with

:48:35. > :48:39.only a couple of hundred majority, we could not even win the City of

:48:40. > :48:43.Chester. Loads of our candidates who should have won up and down the

:48:44. > :48:47.country were absolutely slain on the cross of our own manifesto. Big

:48:48. > :48:51.questions will be asked about the governance and the style of

:48:52. > :48:56.governance. We cannot carry on in that way. Had the manifesto with

:48:57. > :49:02.some of those bad traps in its been shown to some of the older, wiser

:49:03. > :49:06.cabinet members before it had been announced, surely it would not have

:49:07. > :49:10.even featured in the manifesto. It has cost us the general election.

:49:11. > :49:15.Noted you expressed support for Theresa May but you would have to

:49:16. > :49:18.acknowledge that she really is the authority behind the manifesto and

:49:19. > :49:23.really there has been a lot of talk about the way that she runs things

:49:24. > :49:27.with a very tight team, the very point you are making about not

:49:28. > :49:31.canvassing opinion more widely. Is it possible to retain authority

:49:32. > :49:37.going into such a very challenging period, not least with the Brexit

:49:38. > :49:41.talks happening in ten days? I believe so and I believe it will be

:49:42. > :49:44.talked about in the 1922 committee. I am one of the joint secretaries to

:49:45. > :49:50.that committee. I am certain Theresa May will want to explain how there

:49:51. > :49:57.will be a change in the way that we will do things. Had some of the

:49:58. > :50:01.Cabinet ministers seem that policy beforehand then surely that's never

:50:02. > :50:07.would have featured in our manifesto at all. Never have I seen a very

:50:08. > :50:11.successful campaign up until that point being hijacked by ourselves.

:50:12. > :50:16.We hijacked our own campaign. From then on it was an absolute disaster.

:50:17. > :50:19.To be clear, if any of your colleagues pop-up asking for the

:50:20. > :50:25.Prime Minister to stand down, you will tell them they are wrong? Yes,

:50:26. > :50:31.I will be supporting Theresa May to come to some coalition deal with the

:50:32. > :50:37.DUP in order that in 11 days' time we will be starting Brexit

:50:38. > :50:41.discussions and, as I said, Theresa got a 43% share of the vote and in

:50:42. > :50:46.normal times that it would have been a very good majority for us. But the

:50:47. > :50:49.fact is that it lots of seats up and down the country it was polarised,

:50:50. > :50:54.the Lib Dems were hammered in the vast majority of seats, in Southport

:50:55. > :50:59.in the north-west where they had held they ended up third and the

:51:00. > :51:03.Conservatives gained that seat. 43% was a very strong percentage but the

:51:04. > :51:08.fact is that the Labour Party were able to talk about all the things

:51:09. > :51:11.they were offering, including free tuition, so lots of young people

:51:12. > :51:16.turned out that normally do not and said they would vote for the Labour

:51:17. > :51:20.Party and they manage 41% of the vote and clung onto lots of the

:51:21. > :51:27.seats that otherwise would have gone the way of the Conservatives. Even

:51:28. > :51:31.in my own seat, my vote was almost 32,000, the biggest it has ever

:51:32. > :51:36.been, but the Labour Party God went up to 18,000, the biggest it has

:51:37. > :51:42.ever been. The Lib Dem and Green votes were crushed, and you can put

:51:43. > :51:46.crushed all over the place, 3% of the national vote. When you would

:51:47. > :51:50.normally expect the Ukip vote to mostly come to the Conservative

:51:51. > :51:56.Party, that simply did not happen. On a number of doorsteps I heard

:51:57. > :51:59.people say I voted for Ukip before, I was going to vote Conservative but

:52:00. > :52:03.now I have seen what you are going to do, what you have put in your

:52:04. > :52:10.manifesto, what you will do to my winter weather payments, I am not

:52:11. > :52:13.coming with you. That cost us lots of seats. Good to

:52:14. > :52:15.talk to you, Nigel Evans, thank you. The former Conservative Cabinet

:52:16. > :52:22.Minister Nicky Morgan joins us. Thank you. What do you think of the

:52:23. > :52:26.position this morning? Clearly it was stunning, a huge

:52:27. > :52:30.shock to everybody, you could see that on the faces throughout the

:52:31. > :52:34.night. This is clearly not the result that any of us wanted when

:52:35. > :52:38.the Prime Minister called the election way back in April. It has

:52:39. > :52:44.been eight at seven weeks and I want to say that I really feel for

:52:45. > :52:49.colleagues who have lost their seats -- it has been a tough seven weeks.

:52:50. > :52:55.Force India who has been an MP for two, seven or ten years -- for

:52:56. > :52:59.somebody who has been an MP for two, seven or ten years and then not to

:53:00. > :53:07.be, it is age Mendis shock and we all feel for them. -- it is a

:53:08. > :53:12.tremendous shock. We have discussed Theresa May's position with Nigel

:53:13. > :53:17.Evans, what are your thoughts on how she can carry on? Do you acknowledge

:53:18. > :53:21.her authority has been badly damaged by this result? This is a result

:53:22. > :53:26.that she absolutely did not want and none of us wanted. That will make

:53:27. > :53:31.life difficult. I think she should carry on, I think she is entitled as

:53:32. > :53:36.Prime Minister to see if she is able to form a Government. I think there

:53:37. > :53:39.has been talk and I came in as you were talking about the DUP and a

:53:40. > :53:45.potential coalition with them, it is right that she does. I think people

:53:46. > :53:48.want there to be parity about leadership, we have the very

:53:49. > :53:53.important Brexit negotiations starting in 11 days, there is a

:53:54. > :53:57.Cabinet in place, in David Davis we have a Brexit Secretary who stop the

:53:58. > :54:01.negotiations, I think that should happen. Nigel is right, there will

:54:02. > :54:04.be discussion within the Conservative Party about the

:54:05. > :54:07.campaign. Can you tell viewers today that

:54:08. > :54:12.following this campaign and, indeed, some events that happened before the

:54:13. > :54:17.campaign, that you have confidence in Theresa May's leadership this

:54:18. > :54:22.morning? I think that Theresa May is

:54:23. > :54:25.absolutely a competent, a more than capable Prime Minister and leader of

:54:26. > :54:31.the party but clearly there has been a misjudgement in the way that we

:54:32. > :54:33.started off thinking there would be a significant win for the

:54:34. > :54:38.Conservative Party, that has not happened and we need to understand

:54:39. > :54:41.why. There are two things, having a Government prepared to negotiate

:54:42. > :54:45.Brexit, which I think most people in the country wants to see, and there

:54:46. > :54:48.is what will happen in the Conservative Party, which is for us

:54:49. > :54:54.to deal with, I am not sure it is of great wider interest to the

:54:55. > :54:56.electorate. Thank you, Nicky Morgan, the former Conservative Cabinet

:54:57. > :55:04.minister. Peter Kelly has joined us, a quick thought? The polls before

:55:05. > :55:09.the exit poll on the whole set the Conservatives would win big. Two

:55:10. > :55:12.years ago when I was a pollster, we got it badly wrong, we said would be

:55:13. > :55:19.a hung parliament and it was not. Most of the polls have gone the

:55:20. > :55:24.other way this time, two pollsters can hold their heads up high, the

:55:25. > :55:32.first is one of the newer companies which has consistently said for the

:55:33. > :55:36.last two days it was a very tight race, and the other is my old

:55:37. > :55:41.company, YouGov. They did something very brave and innovative, they

:55:42. > :55:43.collected answers from 50,000 people, 7000 today, and enquired in

:55:44. > :55:49.great detail into the demographics of it and then produced, very

:55:50. > :55:53.bravely, a look at each constituency. They were mocked when

:55:54. > :55:56.they said Amber Rudd might be in trouble in Hastings, she was. They

:55:57. > :55:59.were mocked when they said Labour might win Canterbury for the first

:56:00. > :56:05.time ever, it did. They were mocked when they said Labour was ahead in

:56:06. > :56:08.Enfield Southgate, it has won Enfield Southgate. My old company,

:56:09. > :56:12.nothing to do with me now, did something very brave and got it

:56:13. > :56:16.right. Even a newspaper which commissioned the polls did not quite

:56:17. > :56:23.believe them. The Times kept saying this is a very brave unsurprising

:56:24. > :56:28.poll. -- brave and surprising poll. We will pick up the polling point in

:56:29. > :56:31.more detail, because it is interesting, you mentioned the

:56:32. > :56:35.Times, Andy, and Andrew Neil hasn't guests from the breast, let's join

:56:36. > :56:40.him. We do indeed, Huw. It is raining in

:56:41. > :56:44.Westminster, public Tory tears given the state of the election result,

:56:45. > :56:48.lots of weeping and gnashing of teeth but we have two while members

:56:49. > :56:52.of Her Majesty's press, Kevin Maguire of the mirror, James Forsyth

:56:53. > :57:04.the Spectator. James, let me come to you. Malfunctioning Maybot, the

:57:05. > :57:07.people say no, wrong can she survive as Prime Minister? That is a

:57:08. > :57:10.question the Cabinet were debating in the early hours of Blast. Some

:57:11. > :57:13.people thought she had to try to carry on in the national interest

:57:14. > :57:17.with the Brexit negotiation so close, others thought she went to

:57:18. > :57:24.the country seeking a majority and a mandate and she got neither, but I

:57:25. > :57:28.think she will carry on for a short period. The Tory party want to get

:57:29. > :57:32.back into office, they do not want another election in the autumn. They

:57:33. > :57:36.worry that the momentum is with Labour and another election will be

:57:37. > :57:40.even worse than them. That happened in 1974 when Mr Wilson won leg, it

:57:41. > :57:46.was a hung parliament but by October he had won a small overall majority.

:57:47. > :57:52.I do not think the Tories think that is an option, I think she will do a

:57:53. > :57:56.deal with the DUP and governed for a period. The authorities she had has

:57:57. > :58:00.gone now. Even those in the Cabinet who say they want her to stay are

:58:01. > :58:03.talking about how the style of number ten has to change, it has to

:58:04. > :58:06.be genuinely collective decision-making. This would be a

:58:07. > :58:15.very different Premiership from the one she has had to date. She has

:58:16. > :58:18.never changed, why should we she tried to make a great virtue of that

:58:19. > :58:26.in the campaign, it has backfired hugely. We are old enough to

:58:27. > :58:29.remember -- we are old enough to run but that she said she had no

:58:30. > :58:33.intention of calling a general election. When she say she has no

:58:34. > :58:37.intention of resigning we take it with a pinch of salt. We know she

:58:38. > :58:41.will never fight another election. The Tories are wonderfully ruthless,

:58:42. > :58:45.that is why they have been in power for most of the last century. At

:58:46. > :58:49.some point they will push her and she is gone from somebody who had a

:58:50. > :58:56.magic spell, broken completely, her authority is shot to pieces. By

:58:57. > :58:59.seeking to consummate the marriage she has entered the honeymoon with

:59:00. > :59:04.the public and her own party. One of the thing saving her is that there

:59:05. > :59:08.is no obvious alternative. Philip Hammond is not a more charismatic

:59:09. > :59:14.politician than Theresa May. Is he still around, I haven't seen him? Is

:59:15. > :59:20.he still Chancellor? He is probably laughing now. His fingerprints are

:59:21. > :59:25.not on this. He was human gated. David Davis is getting a lot of lame

:59:26. > :59:28.because he was one of those urging her to go for the early election, he

:59:29. > :59:34.said it is much more sensible for the sake of the Brexit timetable, so

:59:35. > :59:38.he is tainted by that. There is a Brexit backlash element, Boris

:59:39. > :59:41.Johnson has a ?350 million problem, Amber Rudd, one of the Tories who

:59:42. > :59:46.enhance their reputation chewing the campaign, has a wafer thin majority

:59:47. > :59:50.in Hastings and there is a question about whether you can be a Prime

:59:51. > :59:57.Minister when your constituency is so small. Ruth Davidson, who has

:59:58. > :00:00.come out of this with her reputation enhanced, is not even an MP. John

:00:01. > :00:06.McDonnell told me earlier that they are on stand-by to form a minority

:00:07. > :00:10.government, but no deals with the SNP or the Lib Dems or the Greens?

:00:11. > :00:14.That is not have a minority government works, by definition you

:00:15. > :00:19.need to do deals? There would be a lot of backroom deals, I think he

:00:20. > :00:20.means no formal coalition as we saw between the Conservatives