:00:00. > :00:00.enhanced, is not even an MP. John McDonnell told me earlier that they
:00:00. > :00:08.are on stand-by to form a minority government, but no deals with the
:00:09. > :00:12.SNP or the Lib Dems or the Greens? That is not have a minority
:00:13. > :00:16.government works, by definition you need to do deals? There would be a
:00:17. > :00:20.lot of backroom deals, I think he means no formal coalition as we saw
:00:21. > :00:25.between the Conservatives and the Lib Dems. We understand that. You
:00:26. > :00:30.could not do it otherwise. It would be very difficult to organise. The
:00:31. > :00:35.arithmetic is against you. When the Conservatives... The finishing line
:00:36. > :00:41.is 322, because the seven Sinn Fein MPs abstain and the Speaker is taken
:00:42. > :00:45.into account. It will be 318, 319, they will do the deal with the
:00:46. > :00:52.Democratic Unionists, who will extract a huge price for this
:00:53. > :00:55.coalition of chaos, they will want a porous border with the Republic of
:00:56. > :00:59.Ireland which rules out a very hard Brexit. Labour is waiting in the
:01:00. > :01:04.wings, hoping it will fall. It is difficult to see how the DUP, they
:01:05. > :01:08.are the kingmakers, you can't have a coalition without them. You could
:01:09. > :01:11.put Labour, the SNP, the Liberals and the green altogether and it
:01:12. > :01:18.would not be enough. The DUP hold all the cards and will be ruthless.
:01:19. > :01:24.The fixed term Parliament Act, maybe MrsMay mansion to get some kind of
:01:25. > :01:29.coalition together, by it's fragile. It doesn't last for long. The DUP
:01:30. > :01:33.walk out or something happens. They don't then necessarily go to the
:01:34. > :01:38.country because they would need 66% of parliament to vote. Labour will
:01:39. > :01:42.say no, it's our turn. Let us do it. You could have a Corbyn Government.
:01:43. > :01:48.Well, the act is the Tories' friend now because it makes it very
:01:49. > :01:55.difficult to force them out. Also this, the DUP will never countenance
:01:56. > :02:00.talking to Jeremy Corbyn because of this issue. The attitude towards the
:02:01. > :02:03.IRA. The Tories can be absolutely Government whatever price the DUP
:02:04. > :02:08.ex-track from them they're never going to put Jeremy Corbyn into
:02:09. > :02:13.Downing Street. They could trigger another election. They will play
:02:14. > :02:20.hard. She's weak. She's a lame duck now. They can spin it any way they
:02:21. > :02:23.like and prop her up. She was a commanding - she was a commanding
:02:24. > :02:27.figure. It was almost as if she was trying to lose the election with
:02:28. > :02:32.that social care u-turn and pretended it wasn't. Someone here in
:02:33. > :02:36.Westminster said to me Cameron gambled on the referendum and lost.
:02:37. > :02:44.MrsMay gambled on the election and lost. And they said is the Tory
:02:45. > :02:48.Party a party or a casino? Back to you, Huw. On that note, Andrew,
:02:49. > :02:52.thank you. What are Theresa May's plans. Let's go to Downing Street.
:02:53. > :02:56.Laura, what can you tell us? Thank you. In the last few moments I have
:02:57. > :03:01.been told we can expect Theresa May will go to the Palace at some point
:03:02. > :03:05.later today and crucially will go to the Palace to see the Queen, I am
:03:06. > :03:08.told with the understanding and belief she can form a Government
:03:09. > :03:12.based on some form of assurances and conversations that have been going
:03:13. > :03:16.backwards and forwards between the Conservatives and the DUP in the
:03:17. > :03:19.last couple of hours. As I understand it, this is not
:03:20. > :03:24.necessarily an attempt to form any kind of formal coalition but the DUP
:03:25. > :03:29.has no wish to see Theresa May out of office. They have certainly no
:03:30. > :03:33.wish whatsoever to work with Jeremy Corbyn. Just to reiterate that,
:03:34. > :03:39.still nothing official. Nothing confirmed. But sources are telling
:03:40. > :03:44.me we can expect Theresa May will go to the Palace at some point later
:03:45. > :03:50.today saying, believing she can form a Government with the assurance and
:03:51. > :03:58.understanding from the DUP that they will allow her, will in order for
:03:59. > :04:01.her to a stay in office. Other conversations I sense and listening
:04:02. > :04:09.to Nicky Morgan there stopping short of calling for Theresa May to go,
:04:10. > :04:13.unlike her close colleague Anna Soubrey, it seems at the moment the
:04:14. > :04:18.sense is of rallying around and allowing Theresa May to stay in
:04:19. > :04:21.place. That said, it will be a weakened and fragile Theresa May
:04:22. > :04:27.staying in place if that does happen. A weak and fragile Prime
:04:28. > :04:30.Minister in a volatile era, that's not something necessarily with a
:04:31. > :04:34.very long shelf life. We will be back with you shortly. Thank you
:04:35. > :04:38.very much. The Prime Minister will be going to
:04:39. > :04:41.the Palace sometime today, not sure whether it is before or after lunch.
:04:42. > :04:45.But will be going to the pal loss to see the Queen on the understanding
:04:46. > :04:49.that she can indeed tell Her Majesty she is in a position to form a
:04:50. > :04:53.Government, depending on the ten votes of the DUP.
:04:54. > :04:57.That's the prospect. If we have more on the timing we will bring it to
:04:58. > :05:01.you straightaway. But we are expecting the Prime Minister to go
:05:02. > :05:05.to the Palace to basically tell the Queen it is possible to stay in
:05:06. > :05:10.power. We will be back with more on this in a second. We are going to
:05:11. > :05:15.get the news now. Morning. Theresa May is determined
:05:16. > :05:18.to stay on as Conservative leader, the BBC understands, despite a
:05:19. > :05:24.difficult night that's led to a hung parliament. With all but one seat -
:05:25. > :05:28.declared, the Tories have 318, eight short of the figure needed to form a
:05:29. > :05:35.majority. Our political correspondent reports.
:05:36. > :05:40.A brief smile but it did not last long. Theresa May's huge political
:05:41. > :05:45.gamble ended in failure. She wanted to transform the Tories' fragile
:05:46. > :05:50.majority into a stronger negotiating hand. Instead, her party's ended up
:05:51. > :05:56.weaker. If, as the indications have shown, and if this is correct, that
:05:57. > :06:00.the Conservative Party has won the most seats, and probably the most
:06:01. > :06:05.votes, then it will be incumbent on us to ensure we have that period of
:06:06. > :06:13.stability ap that's exactly what we will do. He confounded expectations.
:06:14. > :06:19.As the Labour leader arrived at party HQ this morning celebrations.
:06:20. > :06:23.We are ready to serve this country. That is what we fought the election
:06:24. > :06:27.for. This is the programme we put forward in our election. We have
:06:28. > :06:32.done no deals and no pacts with anybody. We are there as the Labour
:06:33. > :06:38.Party with our points of view. Labour even took Reading East,
:06:39. > :06:43.ousting a Tory Minister. In total, eight of May's top team failed to
:06:44. > :06:50.get re-elected. The Conservatives at the count in Hastings looked glum.
:06:51. > :06:54.The Home Secretary only just scraped home by 346 votes. While the Lib
:06:55. > :06:58.Dems celebrated the return of former Ministers like Sir Vince Cable, the
:06:59. > :07:04.party's old leader had one of the biggest upsets of the night, losing
:07:05. > :07:06.his Sheffield seat. I of course have encountered this evening something
:07:07. > :07:09.that many people have encountered before tonight and I suspect many
:07:10. > :07:15.people will encounter after tonight, which is in politics, you live by
:07:16. > :07:20.the sword, and you die by the sword. The SNP lost big names on a very bad
:07:21. > :07:24.night. Their deputy leader Angus Robertson was ousted by the
:07:25. > :07:28.Conservatives and their former leader Alex Salmond has lost his
:07:29. > :07:32.seat too. A few counts are still to come in. But the result is clear.
:07:33. > :07:37.There is to be a hung parliament, it's not going to be a majority
:07:38. > :07:40.Government of any colour. Now some are questioning whether MrsMay can
:07:41. > :07:45.continue. I think she's in a very difficult place. She's a remarkable
:07:46. > :07:49.and a very talented woman and doesn't shy from difficult decisions
:07:50. > :07:53.but she now has to obviously consider her position. Are you
:07:54. > :08:00.stepping down? Sources say she has no intention of resigning but she is
:08:01. > :08:06.weaker, has fewer MPs and there are questions over her future.
:08:07. > :08:09.There are reports that the Conservatives have already begun
:08:10. > :08:13.talks with the DUP in Northern Ireland. The DUP could help to give
:08:14. > :08:17.the Tories a working majority at Westminster to enable them to
:08:18. > :08:22.govern. The DUP took ten seats which was up two. Sinn Fein won seven but
:08:23. > :08:26.will continue to abstain from sitting in parliament. Both the SDLP
:08:27. > :08:30.and the Ulster Unionist party lost their seats. Labour had a strong
:08:31. > :08:34.night in Wales, reclaim ago number of seats from the Conservatives. The
:08:35. > :08:38.results were a blow to the Tories, they hoped to make gains in
:08:39. > :08:42.pro-Brexit areas. Plaid Cymru won four seats. That's up one. And the
:08:43. > :08:48.Liberal Democrats lost their only Welsh MP. The swing to Labour seems
:08:49. > :08:51.to be highest in areas with a significant number of younger
:08:52. > :08:56.voters. Some Labour politicians are ascribing their successes to a high
:08:57. > :09:03.turnout of 18-24-year-olds. Young voter turnout is estimated at 72%,
:09:04. > :09:08.with turnout overall 2% up at 69%, which is the biggest since 1997. The
:09:09. > :09:12.outcome raises Dawes about whether Brexit talks can begin later this
:09:13. > :09:17.month. The European Council President has tweeted that he did
:09:18. > :09:19.not know when the talks would start, only when they had to end.
:09:20. > :09:26.Jean-Claude Juncker, the Commission President says the EU is ready for
:09:27. > :09:30.negotiations and he hopes the UK will form a Government as soon as
:09:31. > :09:46.possible. Back to Huw Edwards with the BBC's election special.
:09:47. > :09:53.Good morning once again. It's 10. 10am just about, we are one seat
:09:54. > :09:59.away from the full count of results. We have one seat to go. That is
:10:00. > :10:05.Kensington. Cornwall North came in as a Conservative hold. So where are
:10:06. > :10:11.we? The Conservatives on 318. Labour on 261. Officially it's a hung
:10:12. > :10:16.parliament. All the talk of a solid majority for MrsMay, that talk has
:10:17. > :10:20.evaporated. It's a hung parliament. The Conservatives as the largest
:10:21. > :10:23.party but they need the Democratic Unionist Party to support them. I
:10:24. > :10:28.think we can go back to Downing Street now.
:10:29. > :10:34.I think Laura has another update for us. What do you have? A couple of
:10:35. > :10:40.moments ago I was suggesting that Theresa May was to attend the Palace
:10:41. > :10:44.later today, I have just had it officially confirmed she will go to
:10:45. > :10:48.Buckingham Palace at 12. 30 to seek permission from the Queen to form a
:10:49. > :10:52.Government. Official confirmation, Theresa May has no intention
:10:53. > :10:56.whatsoever of resigning. She will leave here in a couple of hours'
:10:57. > :11:00.time to go to Buckingham Palace to seek permission from the Queen to
:11:01. > :11:08.form a Government. The way we understand she will do that is with
:11:09. > :11:11.assurances from the Ulster Unionists they will see her through in
:11:12. > :11:16.parliament. It's not a formal coalition, this will be a looser
:11:17. > :11:19.arrangement but quietly, but definitely in fact, those two
:11:20. > :11:23.parties have already been working together behind the scenes for a
:11:24. > :11:27.couple of years now. It was something that wasn't necessarily
:11:28. > :11:31.picked up often in parliament but on some crucial occasions, in fact when
:11:32. > :11:37.Tory backbenchers had been opposing David Cameron or Theresa May, it had
:11:38. > :11:42.on some occasions been the DUP that had seen the Prime Minister through.
:11:43. > :11:44.So in a much more public way, in a much more vital way for Theresa May
:11:45. > :12:01.it will be the DUP that is Nellie It doesn't necessarily mean she will
:12:02. > :12:06.be able to stay in post for long. But for today that's her plan. Just
:12:07. > :12:10.behind the scenes, any sense you are picking up that the Prime Minister
:12:11. > :12:17.has had to be talked Staying on, there was suggestions from Gus oh
:12:18. > :12:22.done earlier that he thought she may have thought instinctively at the
:12:23. > :12:25.start of this set of results she might want to leave immediately but
:12:26. > :12:33.colleagues thought for the sake of stability she should stay? Well, I
:12:34. > :12:37.think when we saw her speak at her count in Maidenhead she looked
:12:38. > :12:41.extremely shaken, like somebody who felt personally it looked like she
:12:42. > :12:45.was feeling the loss. From a human point of view, having had such high
:12:46. > :12:49.expectations and frankly such failures on the point of view of
:12:50. > :12:54.expectations management, she looked like somebody who had absolutely no
:12:55. > :12:58.enthusiasm for the idea of staying on. One Cabinet Minister said to me
:12:59. > :13:02.before you came back to me, she does have loyal supporters in Cabinet.
:13:03. > :13:06.Although this has been a devastating time, it's certainly not the case
:13:07. > :13:09.that everybody in her circle, everybody in Cabinet will have been
:13:10. > :13:14.trying to push her out. But in terms of whether or not she had to be
:13:15. > :13:16.talked into it or out of it, I suspect more broadly it was probably
:13:17. > :13:20.a more fluid conversation. They were probably looking at all the
:13:21. > :13:23.potential angles, looking at the different calculations and of course
:13:24. > :13:27.having conversations with the DUP as to whether or not they were up for
:13:28. > :13:31.it. Thank you very much. In a moment we will have the latest from the
:13:32. > :13:36.City of London because the financial markets famously do not like a lack
:13:37. > :13:42.of certainty. We will be with Simon Jack in a second. A very quick
:13:43. > :13:45.thought on what kind of support do you think she has in Cabinet? It's
:13:46. > :13:51.interesting, because Theresa May is not what they call in the House of
:13:52. > :13:56.Commons clubbable, she doesn't hang around drinking gin at night. She
:13:57. > :14:06.doesn't have a lot of backbenchers or ministers who know her very well
:14:07. > :14:11.and are personally loyal. There is a tight group who stuck together, it's
:14:12. > :14:17.not like that with Theresa May. There are people, a few, but not
:14:18. > :14:22.very many. She's going to have to create, if she is staying on, a new
:14:23. > :14:26.network of links and even friends inI had side the Conservative Party
:14:27. > :14:29.because she doesn't have enough. I think Andrew is absolutely right. It
:14:30. > :14:33.was the interview you did with Nigel Evans earlier, he is putting the
:14:34. > :14:39.blame squarely for that u-turn, for the policy put out there first of
:14:40. > :14:43.all, the social care policy and then the u-turn which was unprecedented
:14:44. > :14:46.in election terms, never had a manifesto commitment made one day
:14:47. > :14:51.and within days there's been a u-turn. He put the blame squarely on
:14:52. > :14:56.her two advisers, because she's known to deal with Fiona Hill and
:14:57. > :15:00.Nick Timothy in a threesome in terms of putting policy together, that
:15:01. > :15:03.will have to end in Nigel Evans' terms and I think it will have to
:15:04. > :15:07.end more generally. They say if she had consulted on that policy and
:15:08. > :15:13.consulted widely amongst ministers they would have warned her of the
:15:14. > :15:16.pitfalls, whether it was right or wrong, the polling will show it
:15:17. > :15:21.affected her dramatically. Let's ask Peter. Was that the point where the
:15:22. > :15:27.polls made a significant change when that manifesto went wrong?
:15:28. > :15:37.Yes, absolutely. Up to the launch of the manifesto the Conservatives were
:15:38. > :15:41.holding and even creeping up to 45, 46, 40 7% on the eve of the
:15:42. > :15:47.manifesto. A week later the Tories had dropped three points, Labour had
:15:48. > :15:51.climbed three points, it was a game changer. If one takes the simplistic
:15:52. > :15:55.but possibly correct view that that three points was lost for the rest
:15:56. > :15:59.of the campaign because of social care, it made the difference between
:16:00. > :16:02.the hung parliament and the mess the Conservatives are in now and not a
:16:03. > :16:09.big majority but a fairly comfortable majority of 40 or 50. Mr
:16:10. > :16:14.Corbyn emerging, smiling broadly. He has been mentioning a little earlier
:16:15. > :16:17.that he feels that he has policies which could actually appeal to
:16:18. > :16:21.people across the House of Commons, John McDonnell also said that
:16:22. > :16:25.earlier, offering up the thought of a potential Labour minority
:16:26. > :16:28.government. I had to say that everyone we have discussed that with
:16:29. > :16:35.has said that the numbers do not make sense in that regard, Peter? If
:16:36. > :16:40.the Conservatives can do a deal with the DUP they have a collective
:16:41. > :16:44.majority of 13 if they do not in Kensington, 15 if they do, because
:16:45. > :16:48.of Sinn Fein not taking up their seven seats. In the short run, that
:16:49. > :16:53.is perfectly viable as long as they hold together. It is the medium term
:16:54. > :16:58.when the Brexit negotiations get tough, the policy strain starts to
:16:59. > :17:02.emerge, that is when I would not like to place too much money on
:17:03. > :17:08.survival. The next two weeks, relatively easy. We are getting a
:17:09. > :17:11.government, not necessarily a long-term one. The other thing we
:17:12. > :17:15.have not mentioned at any point this morning about the campaign is the
:17:16. > :17:20.two terrible terrorist incidents, the murders in Manchester and
:17:21. > :17:23.London, that badly disrupted the Conservative campaign and Theresa
:17:24. > :17:30.May's campaign. We think back to that snowy day in John Major's
:17:31. > :17:36.Government when the IRA hit a mortar bomb into Downing Street, almost
:17:37. > :17:39.killed Lord Donald, at that point we were engaged in another big
:17:40. > :17:43.arguments, the Government had to be moved from Downing Street into
:17:44. > :17:48.Admiralty Arch, there was a major hiatus, Black Wednesday followed. In
:17:49. > :17:52.the same sort of way these awful terrorist attacks disrupted things,
:17:53. > :17:56.Cobra met, the rhythm of the campaign, the way Conservative HQ
:17:57. > :18:00.would often have a grip of the campaign was loosened and two
:18:01. > :18:03.crucial moments. People don't want to talk about this because nobody
:18:04. > :18:09.wants to suggest that the terrorists have any bigotry in any sense but it
:18:10. > :18:12.disrupted the campaign. If the Conservatives had begun to develop a
:18:13. > :18:16.fightback in the wake of social care, the terrorist attacks
:18:17. > :18:21.disrupted any fight back so there was no new Tory narrative that could
:18:22. > :18:25.trump the rather tarnished old one. And a very effective Labour country
:18:26. > :18:29.tag. Tories thought that if the terror attack has any effect it will
:18:30. > :18:34.help us because Jeremy Corbyn the IRA friends and all that, Labour
:18:35. > :18:37.came back very fast on police numbers, armed police in particular,
:18:38. > :18:49.they were supported by serving police officers. And that was
:18:50. > :18:52.successful for Jeremy Corbyn's Labour Party and gave them a certain
:18:53. > :18:54.amount of momentum that fed into a manifesto making promises on
:18:55. > :18:56.spending on public services more broadly. We're talking about pulling
:18:57. > :18:59.milestones, things that mark the campaign, John joins us. I know it
:19:00. > :19:04.has been a long night, but your thoughts on when we match-up the
:19:05. > :19:10.events, the results, to the stages of polling you have been involved
:19:11. > :19:13.in, what conclusions do you draw? I think it is pretty clear that Jeremy
:19:14. > :19:17.Corbyn achieved something quite remarkable during this election
:19:18. > :19:20.campaign. The truth is that usually when the electorate have decided
:19:21. > :19:24.that a politician is not much good, they don't change their mind. That
:19:25. > :19:29.was the fate of William Hague and Iain Duncan Smith, in truth it was
:19:30. > :19:31.the fate of Gordon Brown. Derek -- Jeremy Corbyn has been regarded for
:19:32. > :19:46.the last two years by most British voters is being incapable of being a
:19:47. > :19:47.capable party leader, let alone Prime Minister, but during the
:19:48. > :19:50.campaign his personal evaluation has improved so much that those polls
:19:51. > :19:53.who is king people how good or bad do you think Jeremy Corbyn is doing,
:19:54. > :19:57.do you approve or disapprove of his leadership, he almost had as many
:19:58. > :20:00.people who thought he was doing OK than 40 was doing worse. The
:20:01. > :20:05.trajectory for Theresa May was in the opposite direction. Given that
:20:06. > :20:09.went Theresa May started the campaign, it sounded like it would
:20:10. > :20:13.be a one trick pony, strong and stable leadership in the national
:20:14. > :20:16.interest. The moment that that became rather fragile for the
:20:17. > :20:21.reasons you have been discussing around the launch of the Tory
:20:22. > :20:24.manifesto, while at the same time people were saying, hang on, Jeremy
:20:25. > :20:30.Corbyn is not quite so bad after all. I think in particular what
:20:31. > :20:35.happened apart from clearly him capturing the enthusiasm of young
:20:36. > :20:38.voters and those who had not voted before, he simply persuaded those
:20:39. > :20:43.people who usually voted Labour but who four weeks ago were still saying
:20:44. > :20:48.I usually vote Labour but I could not possibly vote for them under
:20:49. > :20:52.Jeremy Corbyn, it is too extreme and he is useless. By the end of the
:20:53. > :21:01.campaign the poll said that just as many people who voted Labour in 2015
:21:02. > :21:05.would vote Labour again, as were saying that they voted Conservative
:21:06. > :21:14.in 2015 and would vote Conservative again. Corbin got the Labour tribe
:21:15. > :21:19.back-in. -- Corbyn got the Labour tribe back-in. Labour has lost this
:21:20. > :21:23.election, as badly as Gordon Brown did in 2010, and while Mr Corbyn may
:21:24. > :21:28.be able to demonstrate that his strategy of not appealing to the
:21:29. > :21:32.centre, trying to go for young voters, it may in fact not lead to a
:21:33. > :21:38.heavy defeat but he is still to prove it can take the party to
:21:39. > :21:43.victory. Thank you, John. We will talk in a while again.
:21:44. > :21:46.Andy? There was an interesting optimistic aspect, Theresa May
:21:47. > :21:50.famously tried to do the entire election campaign with a series of
:21:51. > :21:53.slogans. Strong and stable, strong and stable. She did not seem to want
:21:54. > :21:57.to have a lively and vigorous conversation with the country about
:21:58. > :22:00.Brexit or the economy or what she really thought or anything else.
:22:01. > :22:06.Jeremy Corbyn was going around and appeared to be in listening mode, he
:22:07. > :22:11.had very strong views as well but he was having more of a conversation,
:22:12. > :22:15.which was very important. The differences Jeremy Corbyn has spent
:22:16. > :22:19.nearly 40 years as a campaigner, albeit within a certain niche
:22:20. > :22:23.market. Theresa May is not a natural people person. I think the public
:22:24. > :22:27.began to catch on to the fact that maybe this assembly who does not
:22:28. > :22:31.find it very easy to think on her feet, who much prefers to be
:22:32. > :22:34.well-prepared before doing anything. The trouble is that once you are
:22:35. > :22:42.Prime Minister that is not necessarily a mode in which you can
:22:43. > :22:44.operate in most of the same ways one might say that Gordon Brown
:22:45. > :22:48.discovered when he also became Prime Minister. Thank you, John. Let's
:22:49. > :22:52.pause for a second because John Curtice has raised several themes
:22:53. > :22:56.about the Corbyn performance and we would like to set it in historical
:22:57. > :23:01.context so we can judge it against other things.
:23:02. > :23:05.Let's join Jeremy. Entering the Central Lobby of the House of
:23:06. > :23:09.Commons. John Curtice talking about Labour have lost and how badly. Can
:23:10. > :23:13.we measure how badly they have lost? Lots of reasons to be pleased, they
:23:14. > :23:21.did much better than expected, we will try to set the loss in context.
:23:22. > :23:25.This is where we think it will end up at the end of this, a seat still
:23:26. > :23:30.in play, 261 to Labour in the 2017 election. They did better than
:23:31. > :23:34.people expected. How does it compared to previous losses? Way
:23:35. > :23:38.better than Ed Miliband, who last two years ago in 2015, who had a
:23:39. > :23:43.horrible time. Sort of in the zone that Gordon Brown was then in 2010
:23:44. > :23:50.if you look at seat numbers, 258, he is a bit ahead of Gordon Brown. Neil
:23:51. > :24:01.Kinnock, 271 in 1992, the John Major election where huge turnout for the
:24:02. > :24:03.Conservatives won eight, Neil Kinnock had to resign, but he did
:24:04. > :24:06.better in seats than Mr Corbyn today. Neil Kinnock 220 91987 was
:24:07. > :24:10.allowed to fight again, losing to Mrs Thatcher for her second
:24:11. > :24:15.landslide. This one was defining, bad political campaigns, the
:24:16. > :24:20.disaster for Labour in 1983, is such a landslide after the Falklands War,
:24:21. > :24:26.Michael Foot only got 209 seats. Chewing the campaign, people were
:24:27. > :24:31.saying before it started, will Mr Corbyn got what Mr foot got or even
:24:32. > :24:36.lower? Where he has succeeded and he has completely changed the terms of
:24:37. > :24:43.reference, he is a long way ahead of Michael Foot in 1983. Look at Jim
:24:44. > :24:50.Callaghan, 1979, he lost to Mrs Thatcher when he won -- she won her
:24:51. > :24:56.first election, 269, very much in the same zone. 1970, Harold Wilson
:24:57. > :25:00.lost to Heath, 288. You have a spectrum of Labour leaders. In terms
:25:01. > :25:02.of how well or badly Jeremy Corbyn did, he is very much part of the
:25:03. > :25:16.peace if you measure it in seats. I want to do a different
:25:17. > :25:19.measurements, this is very, very interesting. Let's start at this end
:25:20. > :25:22.and look at percentages. If we go back to the Wilson era, the 70s and
:25:23. > :25:24.previously, you saw for example in the 50s that the combination of the
:25:25. > :25:29.Labour and Conservative vote would be above 90 or 95%. This is a bit of
:25:30. > :25:34.a legacy of art, 43%, losing the election with 43%. That did not
:25:35. > :25:44.happen for many years thereafter. Losing Labour leaders, Callaghan got
:25:45. > :25:49.37% in 79, Foot 28%, historically low in 83. Kinnock 31 and 34, this
:25:50. > :25:54.is the effect of a multiplicity of different parties, particularly the
:25:55. > :25:59.Liberals as they then were. 29% the Gordon Brown in 2010, horrible
:26:00. > :26:06.percentage, of a bid for Ed Miliband in 2015, but look at this. 40% of
:26:07. > :26:11.the vote, four out of ten voters in this election went for Corbyn across
:26:12. > :26:16.the UK. If you are a Jeremy Corbyn fan, that is the figure you point
:26:17. > :26:19.to. It is partly because you could have almost left the pitch and the
:26:20. > :26:24.Liberal Democrats are still down in the dumps but it is a brilliant
:26:25. > :26:28.statistic for people who say that as the successful Corbyn bar to be
:26:29. > :26:31.election -- it is partly because Ukip have almost left the pitch.
:26:32. > :26:36.Such a huge proportion of the electorate chose Labour this time.
:26:37. > :26:42.You have to go way back among losing Labour leaders to find anything like
:26:43. > :26:47.that, he even beat Tony Blair in one of his winning elections!
:26:48. > :26:50.Thank you, Jeremy Vine, taking us through the performances of the past
:26:51. > :26:52.and underlining what has been achieved as far as the Corbyn
:26:53. > :26:59.campaign is concerned. I mentioned the City and how the
:27:00. > :27:06.markets have responded, Simon Jack, tell us about the reaction?
:27:07. > :27:11.They have been completely bamboozled once again and fail to read British
:27:12. > :27:15.politics. They were pricing in a solid Tory majority, but you can see
:27:16. > :27:20.what happened to sterling, the value of the pound against the dollar,
:27:21. > :27:26.easily the most per to be sensitive market, it felt very sharply on that
:27:27. > :27:30.exit poll. -- easily the most politically sensitive market. The
:27:31. > :27:35.pound started to say to itself, why am I falling? It is not this I do
:27:36. > :27:38.not want, I am most scared of the hard Brexit. We saw the big fall
:27:39. > :27:44.after the referendum last year. So it started creeping up again. Maybe
:27:45. > :27:48.Theresa May will be more beholden to the hard Brexit elements in her own
:27:49. > :27:52.party if she does the negotiating, so it goes back up. These
:27:53. > :27:55.conflicting thoughts all morning, drifting off a bit when the market
:27:56. > :28:01.and businesses I have been speaking to said, do you know what will
:28:02. > :28:05.happen? The Brexit clock is ticking, we have invoked Article 50 and we
:28:06. > :28:09.have the worst possible outcome. We have wasted valuable time and not
:28:10. > :28:14.got certainty coming into the negotiations that we were promised.
:28:15. > :28:18.Looking at the other side, AE you negotiators have been pressing their
:28:19. > :28:22.best shirts, getting their ring binders ready, it looks as if we are
:28:23. > :28:28.stumbling into the room at the last minute underprepared. That is the
:28:29. > :28:32.pound. The stock market went up, because as the pound falls the
:28:33. > :28:35.foreign earnings of the big multinationals are worth more.
:28:36. > :28:40.Companies focused mostly on the UK like banks and building societies,
:28:41. > :28:45.sorry, banks or house-builders, their shares had said that. This is
:28:46. > :28:48.seen as not brilliant for the UK economy. That is the market reaction
:28:49. > :28:53.in the City. Thank you, Simon. We will be back in
:28:54. > :28:58.the City of London later. The time is coming up to 10:30am. We are
:28:59. > :29:04.continuing coverage of the election outcome at Westminster. We are
:29:05. > :29:14.looking at a hung parliament, the Conservatives as the largest party
:29:15. > :29:15.and a possible and as -- possible understanding, and informal
:29:16. > :29:19.understanding between the Conservatives and the Democratic
:29:20. > :29:22.Unionist Party. Viewers on BBC world have been with this all night and
:29:23. > :29:26.during the morning, thank you for watching, you are leaving now and we
:29:27. > :29:31.wish you well. And our coverage continues. Before I join Andrew Neil
:29:32. > :29:35.at Westminster, an important update on the position of the Democratic
:29:36. > :29:40.Unionists in Northern Ireland is, they are a very important part of
:29:41. > :29:45.this Government jigsaw. They are potentially kingmakers. DUP is
:29:46. > :29:49.meeting to reflect in a situation that one party source described as
:29:50. > :29:54.messy. That source has confirmed soundings have been made but nothing
:29:55. > :29:57.formal agreed, as you said it would be an understanding, a supply and
:29:58. > :30:06.demand understanding. Talk of an agreement is described as premature
:30:07. > :30:08.and the party is expected to have a news conference in the early
:30:09. > :30:11.afternoon. The timing might be quite crucial if Theresa May is expected
:30:12. > :30:13.to go to the Palace on the understanding that she would have
:30:14. > :30:17.the support of the ten DUP in order to get through her policies and get
:30:18. > :30:20.the majority in the House of Commons, we need to keep an eye on
:30:21. > :30:23.that. This is pressure in negotiations. The DUP will have a
:30:24. > :30:28.shopping list to some extent of what they would like. Just to underline,
:30:29. > :30:33.we expect the Prime Minister to go to the powers that about 12:30pm to
:30:34. > :30:40.inform Her Majesty of her plans -- go to the Sidnei Buckingham Palace.
:30:41. > :30:43.We understand she wants to form a government with the Democratic
:30:44. > :30:47.Unionists, then the DUP might set details a short while after that.
:30:48. > :30:54.Let's go back to Westminster. It is rather rainy but Andrew is waiting.
:30:55. > :31:01.It's turned into a downpower, the Tory tears I told you about are now
:31:02. > :31:09.a flood! We are getting plenty of that rain and being kept cool in the
:31:10. > :31:14.process. You have had your suit washed courtesy of the licence
:31:15. > :31:25.payer, what more can we say on a morning like this? .
:31:26. > :31:29.Eric Pickles, one of your MPs, Philip Davis, he said the
:31:30. > :31:34.Conservative Party had made a pig's ear of the national campaign. Do you
:31:35. > :31:39.agree? It's not been the happiest campaign that I have been engaged
:31:40. > :31:44.with. Is that an understatement? It's all rather pointless now, what
:31:45. > :31:48.we have to do is try and put a majority together to remain in
:31:49. > :31:52.Government. There will be a time for us to go through what went wrong and
:31:53. > :31:57.how we can improve. But I can tell you this, it's not now. Well, maybe
:31:58. > :32:03.not. But even if you do manage to stay in Government you will be the
:32:04. > :32:09.walking wounded, won't you? It will be better if we had a majority, 20,
:32:10. > :32:12.30 majority, it's going to be very difficult. But that's democracy,
:32:13. > :32:16.that's what people voted for. It's up to us to get on with the job.
:32:17. > :32:22.Doesn't it leave Theresa May as a lame duck? No, I don't think that is
:32:23. > :32:27.right. I think she has the opportunity, she has to see the
:32:28. > :32:33.Queen at 12. 30, of putting together a Government. The most important
:32:34. > :32:36.thing is to be able to get a negotiating position ready for
:32:37. > :32:39.Brexit. But she had a Government, six weeks ago she had a Government,
:32:40. > :32:45.she had a Government with an overall majority. It wasn't huge but it was
:32:46. > :32:51.a majority. Now she doesn't, she's going to have to ask the Queen for
:32:52. > :32:57.permission to form a Government. What's the good news in this? It's
:32:58. > :33:01.clearly not a happy moment for the Conservative Party. But it's not
:33:02. > :33:07.necessarily a fatal moment for the Conservative Party. What are you
:33:08. > :33:15.going to give to the DUP to keep you in power? I am in the a member of
:33:16. > :33:20.the House of Commons and think it's unlikely I would be part of the
:33:21. > :33:24.negotiating team. But you will have to give something? It depends what
:33:25. > :33:29.the understanding is, I don't know whether it's going to be issue by
:33:30. > :33:33.issue. Adam Clarke, you have obviously done much better than many
:33:34. > :33:39.people thought, or Jeremy Corbyn has done better. What should Labour do
:33:40. > :33:44.now? You still lost the election. Yeah, disappointed to not be able to
:33:45. > :33:47.not have a majority, we have seen a big bold positive campaign and
:33:48. > :33:52.vision for the country that's been incredibly popular. If you think of
:33:53. > :33:57.seven weeks ago, Theresa May called this election thinking it was going
:33:58. > :34:00.to be a Tory landslide and Labour were polling at 24% and now at over
:34:01. > :34:08.40%, it's been an incredible campaign. Would you be a little bit
:34:09. > :34:12.nervous if Jeremy Corbyn tried to form a minority Government which
:34:13. > :34:16.would involve all sorts of deals and compromises and that could end in
:34:17. > :34:20.tears, as well? Well, minority Government, not a coalition, but on
:34:21. > :34:23.a deal by deal basis is what my understanding is, I think that would
:34:24. > :34:26.be fantastic if that was able to be achieved. The British people
:34:27. > :34:30.wouldn't have to live under Tory austerity any more and I think it
:34:31. > :34:35.would set a different direction of travel, so I hope that can happen.
:34:36. > :34:40.Is it not a yard stick of how appalling your party's campaign was
:34:41. > :34:45.that 40% of this country voted for Jeremy Corbyn's Labour Party? A
:34:46. > :34:48.bigger percentage voted for the Conservative Party. The poll rating
:34:49. > :34:53.never varied very much in terms of percentage. 40% for Jeremy Corbyn. A
:34:54. > :34:59.man that you thought you could wipe the floor with. I think I did and a
:35:00. > :35:03.lot of other people underestimated Mr Corbyn. His achievement in terms
:35:04. > :35:10.to get the percentage share that he did and to be able to turn over a
:35:11. > :35:15.number of Conservative seats is a considerable achievement. I thank
:35:16. > :35:21.you both. By the time you come back to us we may well have dried out,
:35:22. > :35:28.but don't count on it. Thank you very much. Trying to squeeze under
:35:29. > :35:31.that umbrella you have. We are back in our warm studio, Andrew won't
:35:32. > :35:37.like that. I would like to catch up with some more reaction and I think
:35:38. > :35:42.we are in a position to hear from Ukip's Paul Nuttall standing in
:35:43. > :35:48.Boston. Do we have that? Otherwise I will just ask for reaction to what
:35:49. > :35:53.we heard there. Here is Paul Nuttall. Regressed electorally back
:35:54. > :35:59.to our 2011 level which is what many of us believed would happen and I
:36:00. > :36:04.know it comes as little surprise to many of you guys in the press. What
:36:05. > :36:11.we have seen overnight is a return and I believe it's only a temporary
:36:12. > :36:17.return to two-party politics. But at the moment it could be argued that
:36:18. > :36:25.Ukip have been a victim of its own success. We forced the referendum
:36:26. > :36:30.and we helped win Brexit. Some people mistakenly think our job is
:36:31. > :36:35.done. But it's not. With Brexit we may well have won the war but we now
:36:36. > :36:43.have to secure the peace. And that is getting a good deal for the
:36:44. > :36:47.British people in these up and coming negotiations with the
:36:48. > :36:54.eurocrats in Brussels. There is no getting away from the fact that this
:36:55. > :36:59.was a unique election that came about at an inopportunity time for
:37:00. > :37:05.our party. The Prime Minister was able to talk the talk on the Brexit
:37:06. > :37:11.negotiations without having to walk the walk. Which is precisely why
:37:12. > :37:25.this election was called in the first place. And what a hubristic,
:37:26. > :37:30.foolish, ish politically naive election to call. The negotiations
:37:31. > :37:36.begin in a few weeks with Brussels and I wish the Prime Minister,
:37:37. > :37:42.whoever that is, all the very best. I hope whoever leads the team get
:37:43. > :37:48.the best deal for the British people. They will, however, only get
:37:49. > :37:53.a good deal if they believe in our great country and they are genuinely
:37:54. > :38:01.prepared to walk away if the Brussels bureaucrats put a bad deal
:38:02. > :38:06.on the table. In my heart I hope they do, like me, truly believe in
:38:07. > :38:13.Britain but something in my head says otherwise. I hope I am proven
:38:14. > :38:20.to be wrong. As for Ukip, well, I have said throughout this election
:38:21. > :38:25.that in politics sometimes the tide comes in, sometimes the tide goes
:38:26. > :38:32.out. But for us, although the tide may be out at the moment, at this
:38:33. > :38:36.present moment in time, I am convinced it will return. The one
:38:37. > :38:40.question I have been asked by the media more than any other during
:38:41. > :38:48.this general election has been what is the relevance of Ukip now? Well,
:38:49. > :38:54.I contend even after the difficult night last night that Ukip is more
:38:55. > :39:00.relevant than it ever was. This is because Ukip are more now than ever
:39:01. > :39:06.after last night's result the guard dogs of Brexit and the Prime
:39:07. > :39:11.Minister, and I suspect it will be a Tory, must know that if they begin
:39:12. > :39:16.to back-track or Bartter things away, then they must know they will
:39:17. > :39:22.be punished at the ballot box and that will only happen if Ukip is
:39:23. > :39:29.electorally viable and strong. We are, in effect, the country's
:39:30. > :39:33.insurance policy on Brexit. Ukip has also proved its relevance by leading
:39:34. > :39:39.the agenda in many ways in this election. To give you one example,
:39:40. > :39:45.we were the first to talk about the greater need for integration and the
:39:46. > :39:51.threats posed to our people from the growing cancer of Islamist extremism
:39:52. > :39:56.in our midst. Unfortunately, the recent attacks in Manchester and
:39:57. > :40:00.London have proved we were correct. I would also argue on many other
:40:01. > :40:04.issues we have led and others have followed. We put down a manifesto
:40:05. > :40:12.that not only highlighted many of the issues we now face, but came up
:40:13. > :40:16.with common sense remedies. Indeed I called it a manifesto that was a
:40:17. > :40:22.decade ahead of its time and I am more confident now than ever that
:40:23. > :40:28.many of our proposals in the 2017 manifesto will either be Government
:40:29. > :40:34.policy or adopted by the establishment parties before the
:40:35. > :40:41.next general election. I believe in the long-term some of our policy
:40:42. > :40:46.proposals are inevitable, such as an English parliament or a full face -
:40:47. > :40:52.full face coverings ban. I am proud to have stood on a platform of
:40:53. > :40:56.policies that included getting immigration under control, slashing
:40:57. > :41:01.the bloated foreign aid budget, reversing the cuts to our police
:41:02. > :41:08.force and increasing the size of our Armed Forces. I contend that if Ukip
:41:09. > :41:12.is to prosper it must continue to be the outriders of British politics.
:41:13. > :41:19.The party that leads the debate and does not follow. The party that is
:41:20. > :41:22.not hamstrung by political correctness and therefore straight
:41:23. > :41:30.talks and says what everybody else is thinking. If Ukip sticks to these
:41:31. > :41:36.principles, then I believe it will flourish in future years. Indeed, I
:41:37. > :41:42.even predict after last night that if things go the way I expect, then
:41:43. > :41:49.Ukip could in 18 months' time be bigger in terms of poll ratings and
:41:50. > :41:55.members than it ever has been before. However, it will not be with
:41:56. > :41:59.me as its leader. I am standing down today as the leader of Ukip with
:42:00. > :42:05.immediate effect. This will allow the party to have a new leader in
:42:06. > :42:13.place by the conference in September. And at the annual
:42:14. > :42:17.conference in are to quay the new rebranded Ukip must be launched and
:42:18. > :42:25.a new era must begin with a new leader. This will be an exciting
:42:26. > :42:31.time for all of us who love our party. I have to admit that I never
:42:32. > :42:36.envisaged that I would lead the party into three by-elections and a
:42:37. > :42:44.general election in the space of six hectic months. I wanted at least a
:42:45. > :42:48.year of calm to rebrand and rebuild the party structures so we were
:42:49. > :42:54.ready for the electoral battles ahead. But alas... Paul Nuttall
:42:55. > :42:58.standing down as leader of Ukip with immediate effect. There will be a
:42:59. > :43:02.leadership contest this year in time are the party conference. I think
:43:03. > :43:08.that will make it three leadership contests in one year for Ukip. I
:43:09. > :43:13.suppose in this context looking at a share of 1. 1.8% of the vote, that
:43:14. > :43:17.was inevitable. Rather small guard dogs of Brexit these days. Clever
:43:18. > :43:21.people with slide rules have calculated after he goes that will
:43:22. > :43:26.be five Ukip leaders in nine months, even by the standard of British
:43:27. > :43:29.politics is going it some. He is an affable guy but he was not a
:43:30. > :43:34.successful leader, got in lots of trouble almost every time he
:43:35. > :43:38.appeared in public. The famous statement, he couldn't remember
:43:39. > :43:43.Leanne woods name. He is known in the press now as Natalie Nuttall.
:43:44. > :43:49.It's been a miserable experience for him. He did it with a certain amount
:43:50. > :43:53.of grace there. It's hard to see Ukip reviving quickly. That depends
:43:54. > :44:00.very much on a new leader. We have heard from Nigel Farage today,
:44:01. > :44:03.delighted to see that Paul Nuttall is standing down, Nigel Farage I
:44:04. > :44:08.think we can predict will be bouncing back. If the Conservative
:44:09. > :44:11.Party in parliament breaks badly over the Brexit negotiations, and I
:44:12. > :44:17.think that's likely, then we will see Ukip coming in to support the
:44:18. > :44:19.hard Brexiteers from the outside. If they're making running in
:44:20. > :44:22.parliament, the Conservatives, why are people going to look for a new
:44:23. > :44:27.party, another party outside of parliament? Hard to see how they
:44:28. > :44:30.come back. This has been the demise of Ukip, in local elections they did
:44:31. > :44:37.badly. Obviously, in this election, as you say you are looking at their
:44:38. > :44:41.vote share, they have no MPs. We can see there Nigel Farage, former
:44:42. > :44:45.leader, saying an excellent speech by Paul Nuttall, sorry he is
:44:46. > :44:49.standing down. There were those - as we know this is the man who said he
:44:50. > :44:53.would be resigning and not coming back to frontline politics. He has
:44:54. > :44:56.had certainly plenty of reincarnations in that regard. We
:44:57. > :45:00.could well see him back. The point about holding the Government's feet
:45:01. > :45:05.to the fire, they don't have the physical infrastructure to do that
:45:06. > :45:09.any more in electoral terms. Paul Nuttall's heart wasn't in it to the
:45:10. > :45:12.end because of the difficult time you talked about. When we
:45:13. > :45:16.interviewed him we said do you think he will be the last leader of Ukip,
:45:17. > :45:21.he said no, that's not going to happen. Who will be the next leader?
:45:22. > :45:25.They struggled to get one to stick around as long as he did, having had
:45:26. > :45:31.quite a few leadership contests and people pulling out within days.
:45:32. > :45:37.Peter Hennessy, good to have you back. In that Paul Nuttall speech,
:45:38. > :45:41.again he went over the theme of projected difficulties ahead the
:45:42. > :45:46.Conservatives in the Brexit process. Surely he is right on that? Yes, and
:45:47. > :45:53.I have a sliver of human sympathy him, think of the hell of being the
:45:54. > :46:00.leader of Ukip with the Farage bird hovering over you. We must remember
:46:01. > :46:03.that they reflected a slice of opinion in our country which really
:46:04. > :46:11.mattered, which was not finding its voice. 4 million votes last time.
:46:12. > :46:20.You have parties to give people a voice, that keeps open society on
:46:21. > :46:24.the road. Tim Shipman has correctly said all elections ends with Nigel
:46:25. > :46:28.Farage resigning or being appointed leader of Ukip, and sometimes both.
:46:29. > :46:32.I think that has happened on this programme more than once or twice!
:46:33. > :46:37.Certainly a heavy hint earlier that he might be needed. He said he would
:46:38. > :46:42.absolutely have to make a to front line if Brexit was at risk, which he
:46:43. > :46:46.said it could be in the light of a hung parliament. We have been
:46:47. > :46:51.notified. He would have would have to have his arm twisted ex-smokers
:46:52. > :46:55.were there into some of the seats Emily looked at where Ukip did very
:46:56. > :46:59.well last time around, there was an expectation at the beginning of this
:47:00. > :47:03.election campaign that their votes were folding into the Conservatives.
:47:04. > :47:09.Up to a point. It was clear from some of Emily's graphs that some of
:47:10. > :47:14.them were dividing in the northern constituencies where the Ukip vote
:47:15. > :47:18.had gone down almost collapsed, dividing it equally, Labour were
:47:19. > :47:21.getting back some of the votes. It is not straightforward to say they
:47:22. > :47:28.have gone to the Conservatives, as we can see from the election result.
:47:29. > :47:33.Lots of Labour voters are worried about immigration, hostile to the
:47:34. > :47:36.EU, Ukip gave them a new voice. Now Ukip is going down, some are coming
:47:37. > :47:40.back to the Labour Party. That is why Jeremy Corbyn was so clear he
:47:41. > :47:45.would be unclear about Brexit, he knew that so many of his voters, 9
:47:46. > :47:49.million Labour voters voted for Brexit and the party was divided.
:47:50. > :47:54.Keir Starmer brilliantly said that is why we are great for Britain,
:47:55. > :47:58.Britain is divided by Brexit answer was the Labour Party, so we
:47:59. > :48:03.represent Britain! A refreshing degree of honesty. We said earlier
:48:04. > :48:07.we expect the Prime Minister to emerge at around 12:30pm to take the
:48:08. > :48:11.journey from Downing Street to Buckingham Palace. Let's go to
:48:12. > :48:15.Downing Street, Laura has the latest on what is being set
:48:16. > :48:18.behind-the-scenes about the Prime Minister's position?
:48:19. > :48:30.Just before I tell you about that I can't help but remind you that
:48:31. > :48:32.almost exactly this time in 2015 we were talking about Nigel Farage
:48:33. > :48:34.being the Vicky Pollard of resignations yeah, but, no, yeah,
:48:35. > :48:39.but, no. It sounds like another yeah today. I love of my bad metaphors.
:48:40. > :48:42.Talking to Tories privately from outside Downing Street this morning
:48:43. > :48:49.it seems very much that Theresa May has shored up her position at least
:48:50. > :48:53.for now. So what seemed a couple of hours ago very, very uncertain,
:48:54. > :48:57.would she be able to get through the day? It seems the sentiment I think
:48:58. > :49:01.more than anything else of the horror of the prospect of another
:49:02. > :49:06.election seems to have allowed the party to at least settle its
:49:07. > :49:09.collective nerve for a little while. I had to say that those
:49:10. > :49:15.conversations have also made completely plain that many MPs will
:49:16. > :49:20.regard her as a caretaker rather than a Prime Minister who will be in
:49:21. > :49:23.this for the long haul. Just another point about the fact that she will
:49:24. > :49:28.have to rely on some form of assurance or support from the DUP,
:49:29. > :49:32.not clear exactly what the form of that will be, but as we said earlier
:49:33. > :49:37.some kind of loose arrangement. Here's a thought, very many really
:49:38. > :49:41.important issues for the public like social care, housing, are devolved.
:49:42. > :49:46.So they are different in Northern Ireland. So what happens when it
:49:47. > :49:51.comes a controversial vote in the House of Commons? When the Tories
:49:52. > :49:55.need to rely on the DUP but they are not issues affecting the DUP's
:49:56. > :49:59.voters? In the months to come back or be quite a conundrum for the
:50:00. > :50:04.Tories. I think that might exaggerate the effect you often see
:50:05. > :50:07.with minority governments were basically anything controversial,
:50:08. > :50:12.anything difficult just doesn't even make it to the House of Commons, let
:50:13. > :50:18.alone actually getting its way through. A quick point, when we
:50:19. > :50:21.spoke to Nigel Evans earlier, and to Nicky Morgan, we discussed the fact
:50:22. > :50:26.that there was significant misgivings with the way the campaign
:50:27. > :50:30.was run, specifically around the very close-knit people around the
:50:31. > :50:34.Prime Minister, basically the way that she governs and runs things?
:50:35. > :50:40.Absolutely. To what extent will she be able to change that, because that
:50:41. > :50:43.is a very established pattern that she has? It is her modus operandi
:50:44. > :50:48.but it is very clear to me that MPs will demand that some of her closest
:50:49. > :50:53.team go. One former minister said on the phone awhile ago that it will
:50:54. > :50:57.have to be the case that Fiona Hill and Nick Timothy, her chiefs of
:50:58. > :51:02.staff, depart. Of course that will be a decision of the number ten and
:51:03. > :51:07.Theresa May but let's be clear, there are Conservative MPs who
:51:08. > :51:10.expect and will demand that happens. There is deep unhappiness at how the
:51:11. > :51:15.campaign was run but, if you like, it is a symbol of how she had been
:51:16. > :51:19.running operations, not being inclusive enough, not consulting and
:51:20. > :51:23.of Cabinet colleagues. Some people in Cabinet like the way she worked
:51:24. > :51:24.because they felt that one she had made a decision she tended to stick
:51:25. > :51:42.to it and looked for evidence, things were much more
:51:43. > :51:45.formal. But I think because she is so much weaker now than 24 hours
:51:46. > :51:48.ago, she will have to take counsel from the Cabinet, she will not now,
:51:49. > :51:50.I don't think, be able to Sakho Chancellor, Philip Hammond, which
:51:51. > :51:53.had been the plan for this election. -- will not be able to Sakho
:51:54. > :51:55.Chancellor. Philip Hammond is on the less sceptical end of the Brexit
:51:56. > :52:01.spectrum. I hate to use the word soft and hard but it may well be the
:52:02. > :52:04.case, it has been suggested to me, that's Cabinet members wanted that
:52:05. > :52:09.the approach to the single market back on the table. -- that some
:52:10. > :52:15.Cabinet members. The DUP are soft in terms of the border with the
:52:16. > :52:18.mainland of Ireland but definitely Eurosceptic in character. It is too
:52:19. > :52:23.early to say whether this will change the nature of the kind of
:52:24. > :52:28.Brexit we will end up with, but complications all around. It is a
:52:29. > :52:32.very, very complicated set of consequences from what has clearly
:52:33. > :52:37.been a political disaster. We will be back, Laura, thank you very much.
:52:38. > :52:41.Andy? It'll be a personal humiliation of a new kind the
:52:42. > :52:42.Theresa May to have to get rid of Nick Timothy and Fiona Hill, she
:52:43. > :52:57.would hate that and be badly weakened if she did, she depends
:52:58. > :52:59.upon them very, very much. She would prefer to lose back teeth without
:53:00. > :53:03.anaesthetic and a set of pliers than do that. One she has done it she
:53:04. > :53:05.will be in a weaker position and her modus operandi will have gone, I
:53:06. > :53:08.will be very surprised if she finds it easy to do. She might have
:53:09. > :53:10.pressure to get rid of one of them, to at least have made some
:53:11. > :53:13.sacrifice, but it would be difficult. Or at least replace them
:53:14. > :53:17.with somebody else even though she only has a very small coterie. It is
:53:18. > :53:21.almost saying to Theresa May you must be a different kind of human
:53:22. > :53:23.being, that is very, very hard to do. The problem with the two
:53:24. > :53:42.gatekeepers is a reflection of Mrs May being very
:53:43. > :53:44.anxious as a Prime Minister. She is very determined and very tough but
:53:45. > :53:47.also very anxious person. Everybody on all sites describes how things
:53:48. > :53:49.get held by the gatekeepers. It is deeply inefficient, they get worn
:53:50. > :53:52.out, so does she. There is a huge machine as well as Cabinet
:53:53. > :53:54.colleagues at her disposal. You can get away with it as Secretary of
:53:55. > :53:57.State but not as Prime Minister, it is only a matter of time. On a
:53:58. > :54:00.completely different note, a record number of female MPs elected, more
:54:01. > :54:07.than 200 in this Parliament, is numbering the 196 in 2015, there is
:54:08. > :54:14.one seat to go in Kensington. -- outnumbering the 196. And Theresa
:54:15. > :54:17.May used to run a campaign for women and the Conservatives. You will have
:54:18. > :54:21.noticed that the weather is not great towards Westminster, but it is
:54:22. > :54:26.not putting tourists and people gathering outside Buckingham Palace,
:54:27. > :54:31.let me tell you! Changing the guard at Buckingham Palace, that is taking
:54:32. > :54:36.place today. But all eyes as on Horse Guards Parade, lots of
:54:37. > :54:40.rehearsing going on for the Queen's Birthday Parade and the Trooping of
:54:41. > :54:46.the Colour which takes place a week tomorrow. They are on their way to
:54:47. > :54:50.Buckingham Palace right now, Andy? I think that is Momentum marching,
:54:51. > :54:58.their official honour guard explanation mark about it certainly
:54:59. > :55:03.involves Momentum, no doubt! Plenty of umbrellas, but the weather is not
:55:04. > :55:07.putting off people who have been to see the great spectacle happening
:55:08. > :55:12.outside Buckingham Palace. We are full of sympathy about the weather,
:55:13. > :55:16.Andrew Neil! Thank you, that I don't need
:55:17. > :55:23.sympathy, the sun has come out. If you don't like the weather, hang
:55:24. > :55:31.around, it changes in 15 minutes. I have Jean Miller with me, she ran
:55:32. > :55:40.the famous court case which called the Parliamentary vote on Brexit. --
:55:41. > :55:43.I have Gina Miller. Gina Miller, does a hung parliament make what you
:55:44. > :55:50.would regard as a softer Brexit more likely or will it perhaps make for a
:55:51. > :55:55.chaotic breakfast... I'm sorry, Brexit! It has been a long night! It
:55:56. > :56:00.has. I think the people have spoken loud and clear and said we do not
:56:01. > :56:03.want an extreme Brexit, we do not want one that leaves the single
:56:04. > :56:08.market, and that is what will happen. It is loud and clear. It was
:56:09. > :56:12.in the Conservative manifesto, that is what they voted against. I don't
:56:13. > :56:15.think it will be chaos, we will not put the hung parliament. We might
:56:16. > :56:20.end up with a parliament who votes issue by issue, and when it comes to
:56:21. > :56:24.Brexit we will go on close negotiations with a far more
:56:25. > :56:28.flexible approach. Mrs May called the selection because she said she
:56:29. > :56:34.wanted a mandate for her form of Brexit. What is her mandate this
:56:35. > :56:38.morning? It is a desperately disappointing outcome and I feel for
:56:39. > :56:42.the 30 or so former colleagues who very unexpectedly, to them at least,
:56:43. > :56:47.lost their seats. I think it is fair to say that we are the largest party
:56:48. > :56:52.by quite some way, 55 seats ahead of Labour. The idea that Labour can
:56:53. > :56:59.form an administration, I think, is for the birds. But we have not got
:57:00. > :57:03.over the line of 326. But what is her mandate? We are the party that
:57:04. > :57:07.will be the leading light in the government, it looks as if we will
:57:08. > :57:11.have an arrangement with the DUP which will be sustainable for the
:57:12. > :57:15.short and medium-term at least and maybe beyond. Where I agree with
:57:16. > :57:21.Gina, I think the important thing is not to Brexit. We got through that
:57:22. > :57:25.process, the legal process, the Article 50 process is through.
:57:26. > :57:28.However I hope that is part and parcel of this, and I say that as a
:57:29. > :57:32.London MP where there are massive swing is very much because of the
:57:33. > :57:36.Brexit issue which permeated through to the very poor results the
:57:37. > :57:40.Conservatives had in London, I would like to see an open offer from the
:57:41. > :57:43.Theresa May administration to make sure we hear as many voices as
:57:44. > :57:47.possible playing their parts from other political parties in terms of
:57:48. > :57:50.trying to sort out what will be the right deal within particular
:57:51. > :57:58.sectors. Is there not a danger from your point of view that if Mrs May
:57:59. > :58:03.is to do a deal with the DUP from Northern Ireland, which are pretty
:58:04. > :58:08.strong on Brexit, that she will, despite not getting the mandate she
:58:09. > :58:13.looked for, stick to her form of Brexit that was in the manifesto? I
:58:14. > :58:16.don't think so. I think the idea of more voices from different parties
:58:17. > :58:21.is absolutely right. This issue is too big to be left to one party.
:58:22. > :58:26.That has won, democracy has spoken and said it should be more people,
:58:27. > :58:34.more voices in something that will affect our country so deeply. It is
:58:35. > :58:38.in the national decades -- interest the decades to come. There is a very
:58:39. > :58:44.big issue with Ireland, either we treated as an entity in its own
:58:45. > :58:47.right or that the islands of Great Britain, my preference would be the
:58:48. > :58:51.matter. Clearly the preference of the DUP would be the matter, they're
:58:52. > :58:56.all sort of implications following from. The Irish government are well
:58:57. > :59:00.aware of the issue. I did not mean the Irish issue, just that you are
:59:01. > :59:05.dependent on the DUP and they are pretty strong on Brexit. If I was Mr
:59:06. > :59:09.Barnier, the lead negotiator, listening to you this morning, I
:59:10. > :59:13.would say it is a bit down late that you will start consulting all these
:59:14. > :59:18.people and deciding what Brexit really means. We start negotiations
:59:19. > :59:23.in a few days. I think he has been quite fair, he is relaxed about
:59:24. > :59:27.having a pause, given the political uncertainty, it would be foolish not
:59:28. > :59:36.to have a pause. So you do not think the negotiations will bring us --
:59:37. > :59:39.begin as scheduled? I think until the general... German electoral
:59:40. > :59:44.system is sorted out it will be difficult to get anything finalised.
:59:45. > :59:47.But let's get this right, let's be able to bring other voices to have
:59:48. > :59:51.their part to play, I accept that the clock is ticking on Brexit but
:59:52. > :59:59.we don't have to rush in headlong over the next few weeks. If she
:00:00. > :00:03.manages to pull off forming a government, did she not go into the
:00:04. > :00:07.negotiations, given what she hoped to achieve is and has clearly failed
:00:08. > :00:12.to achieve, she goes into the negotiations a diminished figure?
:00:13. > :00:19.That is a problem because her reputation is in tatters. The EU do
:00:20. > :00:23.not want a failing neighbour. We should not want them to fail either.
:00:24. > :00:29.It would be reasonable negotiations and that's what we didn't have
:00:30. > :00:31.before. With MrsMay we had a very closed, inflexible approach that was
:00:32. > :00:38.hard Brexit or nothing, deal or no deal. We won't have that nothing.
:00:39. > :00:42.What you are talking about is almost a fundamental reopening of our
:00:43. > :00:48.Brexit negotiating position. No, I don't think it's that. Well, she is
:00:49. > :00:52.talking about remaining a member of the single market, aren't you I do.
:00:53. > :00:57.That's what I said, that's pretty fundamental. That would be. The
:00:58. > :01:00.risk, to be honest, that would essentially be frustrating the
:01:01. > :01:08.Brexit that has been agreed as far as getting to Article 50 is
:01:09. > :01:10.concerned. We did we search with 50% Leavers and Remains and asked that
:01:11. > :01:15.question, do you want the next Government to leave the single
:01:16. > :01:20.market and 50% said no. Only 21% said they wanted to leave the single
:01:21. > :01:24.market. When it came to freedom of movement, 69% said they wanted those
:01:25. > :01:29.rights. Actually, I was not surprised... All of us have
:01:30. > :01:34.experience of opinion polls. It was a survey, directly asked questions.
:01:35. > :01:39.When this result came we were not surprised. Staying part of the
:01:40. > :01:43.customs union? It's not a political union, it's not a military union.
:01:44. > :01:46.It's not a judicial union. You want to remain a member of the single
:01:47. > :01:52.market, and you want to remain a member of the customs union. If that
:01:53. > :01:56.is not a radical redrawing of the Government's Brexit conditions, what
:01:57. > :02:00.is? That would be. This customs union issue is likely to rear its
:02:01. > :02:03.head as far as the Irish issue, a blind eye is going to have to be
:02:04. > :02:09.turned for goods to go through the UK from Ireland. Do you fear for the
:02:10. > :02:12.future of this country? I do, a little bit, the uncertainty is not
:02:13. > :02:19.good news, I represent the City of London and you have seen jitters
:02:20. > :02:22.today. I hoped we would have a definitive election result and a
:02:23. > :02:26.very stable Government in place. You got none of that. In fairness to
:02:27. > :02:30.Theresa May she's quickly acted this morning to get supply and confidence
:02:31. > :02:39.arrangement to make sure we are able to stabilise things. That's in
:02:40. > :02:45.desperation. I think it's a reality that unlike the offer from Jeremy
:02:46. > :02:47.Corbyn and Mr McDonnell, that is... Will she recover her authority again
:02:48. > :02:51.with the Conservative Party after what she has put them through? She
:02:52. > :02:54.is the head of Government, I would disagree with what Gina said about
:02:55. > :03:00.her relationship with European leaders. I am not asking about
:03:01. > :03:02.European leaders. Will she ever recover authority with her own
:03:03. > :03:05.party? I am confident we can recover that authority. I am not going to
:03:06. > :03:10.say it's going to be entirely easy, this has been a bruising and
:03:11. > :03:14.unexpected experience. I think the danger with what happened with the
:03:15. > :03:18.campaign, with hindsight, the tone was too negative, we don't have the
:03:19. > :03:22.hope and optimism that Labour were able to portray. We were right I
:03:23. > :03:25.think to recognise that this whole Brexit process is going to be very
:03:26. > :03:32.difficult and we have to level with the public about that but also to
:03:33. > :03:36.make the case danger of what a Corbyn and McDonnell Government
:03:37. > :03:40.would do. You had a chance to make that case and look where it got you.
:03:41. > :03:47.We will move on. Back to you, Huw. We will be talking about the nature
:03:48. > :03:51.of the campaign in a few minutes. Talking about a negative campaign
:03:52. > :03:54.and talking about reports that are coming in that so far there's been
:03:55. > :03:57.no contact or little contact between the Prime Minister and her team and
:03:58. > :04:02.most members of the Cabinet. We will pick that up. In a moment the news.
:04:03. > :04:07.First, the weather, as we have seen it's wet in London.
:04:08. > :04:10.Hello there. With the expectation of northern Scotland for many more
:04:11. > :04:14.sunshine around today compared with yesterday. But keep the umbrella
:04:15. > :04:17.handy. Showers in western areas today, they're pushing eastwards for
:04:18. > :04:21.the afternoon. Central and eastern England some showers could be heavy.
:04:22. > :04:26.A lot of cloud across northern and eastern Scotland but the rain
:04:27. > :04:30.turning lighter and patchier. Many dry through the afternoon,
:04:31. > :04:36.especially further west and pleasant enough in the sunshine.
:04:37. > :04:40.Showers fade away this evening. Cloud spills in through tonight
:04:41. > :04:43.bringing rain to Northern Ireland, which will ease into Saturday to
:04:44. > :04:48.bright and blustery weather. Rain in Scotland. For northern England,
:04:49. > :04:52.Wales, potentially parts of Devon and Cornwall rain on and off
:04:53. > :04:58.throughout the day. Further south and east, you should stay dry on
:04:59. > :05:01.Saturday and feeling humid too. Many south-eastern areas dry again
:05:02. > :05:05.on Sunday. A small chance of a shower. Sunshine coming through.
:05:06. > :05:10.Elsewhere, sunshine and showers and feeling cooler. Have a good day.
:05:11. > :05:14.Theresa May will go to Buckingham Palace this lunchtime to seek
:05:15. > :05:16.permission from the Queen to form a Government, despite the general
:05:17. > :05:21.election ending in a hung parliament. With all but one seat
:05:22. > :05:25.declared the Tories have 318 seats, eight short of the figure needed to
:05:26. > :05:31.form a majority. The Prime Minister is trying to stay in office on the
:05:32. > :05:35.understanding that the DUP party will support a minority Conservative
:05:36. > :05:38.administration. DUP sources say reports of an agreement are
:05:39. > :05:52.premature. Our political correspondent reports.
:05:53. > :05:54.A brief smile but it did not last long.
:05:55. > :05:56.Theresa May's huge political gamble ended in failure.
:05:57. > :05:58.She wanted to transform the Tories' fragile
:05:59. > :05:59.majority into a stronger negotiating hand.
:06:00. > :06:00.Instead, her party's ended up weaker.
:06:01. > :06:03.If, as the indications have shown, and if this is correct, that
:06:04. > :06:05.the Conservative Party has won the most seats,
:06:06. > :06:12.and probably the most votes, then it will be incumbent on
:06:13. > :06:15.us to ensure we have that period of stability and that's
:06:16. > :06:24.As the Labour leader arrived at party HQ this
:06:25. > :06:30.That is what we fought the election for.
:06:31. > :06:35.This is the programme we put forward in our election.
:06:36. > :06:37.We have done no deals and no pacts with anybody.
:06:38. > :06:42.We are there as the Labour Party with our points of view.
:06:43. > :06:44.The Conservatives at the count in Hastings looked glum.
:06:45. > :07:02.The Home Secretary only just scraped home by 346 votes.
:07:03. > :07:06.Eight of May's top team failed to get re-elected.
:07:07. > :07:09.While the Lib Dems celebrated the return of former
:07:10. > :07:13.Ministers like Sir Vince Cable, the party's
:07:14. > :07:16.Ministers like Sir Vince Cable, the party's old leader had one
:07:17. > :07:18.of the biggest upsets of the night, losing his Sheffield seat.
:07:19. > :07:20.I of course have encountered this evening something
:07:21. > :07:23.that many people have encountered before tonight and I suspect many
:07:24. > :07:26.people will encounter after tonight, which is in politics, you live by
:07:27. > :07:30.The SNP lost big names on a very bad night.
:07:31. > :07:33.Their deputy leader Angus Robertson was ousted by the
:07:34. > :07:35.Conservatives and their former leader Alex Salmond has lost his
:07:36. > :07:53.The DUP have said they will make their influence felt. With just one
:07:54. > :07:57.count still to come in, the result is clear. There is to be a hung
:07:58. > :08:01.parliament. It's not going to be a majority Government of any colour.
:08:02. > :08:06.It's left some questioning whether MrsMay can continue. I think she's
:08:07. > :08:10.in a very difficult place. She's a remarkable and a very talented woman
:08:11. > :08:13.and she doesn't shy from difficult decisions but she now has to
:08:14. > :08:18.obviously consider her position. Are you stepping down? Sources say she
:08:19. > :08:26.has no intention of resigning but she is weaker, has fewer MPs and
:08:27. > :08:31.there are questions over her future. The leader of the Ukip party, Paul
:08:32. > :08:33.Nuttall, is standing down from the job with immediate effect. Ukip
:08:34. > :08:38.failed to win any seats in parliament and its share of the vote
:08:39. > :08:43.collapsed. Earlier the former leader Nigel Farage hinted at a return to
:08:44. > :08:46.politics. Labour had a strong night in Wales, reclaiming a number of
:08:47. > :08:50.seats from the Conservatives. The results were a blow to the Tories.
:08:51. > :08:55.They hoped to make gains in pro-Brexit areas. Plaid Cymru won
:08:56. > :09:01.four seats, up one. The Liberal Democrats lost their only Welsh MP.
:09:02. > :09:04.The outcome raises doubts about whether Brexit talks can begin this
:09:05. > :09:09.month. The European Council President has tweeted he did not
:09:10. > :09:11.know when the talks would start, only when they had to end.
:09:12. > :09:16.Jean-Claude Juncker, the Commission President, says the EU is ready for
:09:17. > :09:18.negotiations and he hopes the UK will form a Government as soon as
:09:19. > :09:20.possible. Let's return to the BBC's election
:09:21. > :09:42.special. Good morning. It is 11. 10 am. We
:09:43. > :09:47.are back in the election centre with the latest for you on the election
:09:48. > :09:55.outcome and of course we are one seat away from a full complement of
:09:56. > :09:58.results. With one seat to go in Kensington, Conservatives on 318,
:09:59. > :10:03.Labour on 261. The Conservatives the biggest party but do not have a
:10:04. > :10:07.majority. Theresa May is facing a hung parliament and if she is to
:10:08. > :10:11.stay in power, which she intends to do, she will probably say that
:10:12. > :10:17.later, she will depend on the support of the DUP. A word about the
:10:18. > :10:25.seat that we don't have, that is Kensington in a very prosperous part
:10:26. > :10:29.of London. They were counting overnight, it's very tight. We are
:10:30. > :10:34.told when they stopped counting because they were exhausted Labour
:10:35. > :10:38.was marginally ahead by 30 or 40 votes. They're not going to count
:10:39. > :10:42.again until later. We may get a result in the early evening. So, we
:10:43. > :10:48.could be in a position where the Tories will be on 319 or indeed on
:10:49. > :10:52.318 with Labour on 262. Basically, that's the result. It is a hung
:10:53. > :10:57.parliament. Lots more reaction for you. If you are just joining us, the
:10:58. > :11:02.Prime Minister will be going to Buckingham Palace at 12. 30 and is
:11:03. > :11:06.likely to make a statement in Downing Street on her plans. Plenty
:11:07. > :11:11.to talk about the challenges she faces and Peter Hennessy is with us
:11:12. > :11:15.a great perspective on what's gone on in the past. In the past what has
:11:16. > :11:22.happened at this point, what's the Prime Minister been doing? 1st
:11:23. > :11:26.March, 1974, the previous day Ted Heath lost, it was a snap election
:11:27. > :11:29.that snapped him up. In the afternoon, the Friday afternoon,
:11:30. > :11:32.this is an intriguing question, if I recall correctly, he called the
:11:33. > :11:37.Cabinet together to tell them he was going to try to do a deal with the
:11:38. > :11:43.Liberal leader over the weekend and also went to see the Queen. Not sure
:11:44. > :11:47.if it was before or after... On the Monday, if I recall correctly, he
:11:48. > :11:53.had another meeting with the Cabinet to report on why he didn't think
:11:54. > :12:00.what Jeremy Thorpe was considering offering, which wasn't very much or
:12:01. > :12:04.vice versa, wasn't going to work. One would look this afternoon for a
:12:05. > :12:07.Cabinet meeting to take them into her confidence how she will play it.
:12:08. > :12:11.No sign of that yet. That's the point. We haven't heard anything
:12:12. > :12:15.about her gathering a team around her and as well as discussions with
:12:16. > :12:18.the DUP, whom she might want in that confidence and supply, needs to go
:12:19. > :12:22.ahead with Brexit, who is going to be in her team? While the election
:12:23. > :12:27.was going on, and during the campaign when there was all this
:12:28. > :12:33.talk of 100-seat majority, talk Philip Hammond may no longer be in
:12:34. > :12:38.post, she might be moving Amber Rudd who only just about held on to her
:12:39. > :12:42.seat, Ben Gummer was talked about, who lost his seat, he was talked
:12:43. > :12:46.about possibly taking over David Davis role, all these things now...
:12:47. > :12:50.By friends of Ben Gummer. These things were being circulated at the
:12:51. > :12:53.time. Yet we still haven't heard from the Cabinet. We are hearing a
:12:54. > :12:58.lot of Cabinet ministers haven't heard at all from Theresa May. Far
:12:59. > :13:01.from there being a formal Cabinet meeting as Peter suggested, there
:13:02. > :13:05.doesn't seem to be informal points made either. Both of the main
:13:06. > :13:09.parties leaders have big questions about how wide and generously they
:13:10. > :13:14.open up. Does Theresa May go to people like Michael Gove who she
:13:15. > :13:18.fired on the back benches, experienced, popular Tories and try
:13:19. > :13:22.and bring them back? On the other side, how does Jeremy Corbyn build
:13:23. > :13:31.further on the great electoral success he has had? Lots of the more
:13:32. > :13:35.moderate or Blairite centrist MPs said he was rubbish and walked out.
:13:36. > :13:40.They have been proved wrong, now some are saying so. Owen Jones
:13:41. > :13:44.saying what a great campaign. Harriet Harman tweeting. Does Jeremy
:13:45. > :13:48.Corbyn hold out the hand to people like Yvette Cooper and say come on
:13:49. > :13:54.in, we are going to build a proper Labour Cabinet, that reflects all
:13:55. > :13:59.shades. What's your... It would be generous for him to do, he is a
:14:00. > :14:04.generous and non-mean spirited individual, I think. Lots of people
:14:05. > :14:08.around him on the left who hate the idea of bringing wretched Blairites
:14:09. > :14:13.in but it would be clever. He can afford to be generous. The hard van
:14:14. > :14:17.guard left party types, a hangover group from the old days, do alienate
:14:18. > :14:22.the centre and right in the Labour Party and an act of generosity, the
:14:23. > :14:26.van guard Labour types do believe in exactly that, that elite group,
:14:27. > :14:30.don't they, to carry the next stage forward? They have a manifesto to
:14:31. > :14:37.stick to. Jeremy Corbyn hasn't had it all his own way in terms of the
:14:38. > :14:40.manifesto on things like Trident renewal, for example. There will be
:14:41. > :14:44.things moderate Labour MPs can hold on to and argue they could come
:14:45. > :14:48.back. He could afford an act of generosity to bring some of those
:14:49. > :14:52.people in, even if not at the top. Parties based on fraternity and
:14:53. > :15:01.brotherhood find it difficult to put it into practice internally. A quick
:15:02. > :15:04.word on more EU response. There is a very intriguing statement from
:15:05. > :15:08.Jean-Claude Juncker. The President of the Commission. On the business
:15:09. > :15:12.of extending negotiations on Article 50, asked at a news conference
:15:13. > :15:17.whether the Article 50 negotiations should be extended in the light of
:15:18. > :15:20.the UK election result, Jean-Claude Juncker replied that before
:15:21. > :15:26.negotiations can be extended, they first need to begin. That is his
:15:27. > :15:29.words. Clearly again question marks over whether this rigid timetable of
:15:30. > :15:34.starting in ten days is going to happen. We heard Michel Barnier
:15:35. > :15:37.saying we need to be in a position where people are happy to start and
:15:38. > :15:42.will be confident in that process. We will pick up on that in a while.
:15:43. > :15:46.We may get more from Brussels on that. Can I bring in Jonathan
:15:47. > :15:51.Bartley, co-leader of the Greens. Thank you very much for waiting to
:15:52. > :15:53.talk to us. Your perspective on the outcome of this election and what
:15:54. > :16:04.are the lessons you draw? We talked for a long time about
:16:05. > :16:08.Progressive alliances, for two years and we stood aside in 24 seat to
:16:09. > :16:11.allow that possibility, those swing seats that would determine the
:16:12. > :16:16.outcome of the election and in some of those it has come to fruition. We
:16:17. > :16:20.were thrilled that there seem to have been a change in the way we do
:16:21. > :16:25.politics in this country with the Labour Party taking up a lot of our
:16:26. > :16:30.ideas from the 2015 manifesto and people endorsing them and voting for
:16:31. > :16:35.them. It is great to have Caroline Lucas returning with a bigger
:16:36. > :16:38.majority but really worried about the DUP having this sway over a
:16:39. > :16:43.Conservative government. They are climate change sceptics and have
:16:44. > :16:48.faced accusations of bigotry and homophobia and to have at the heart
:16:49. > :16:54.of government is worrying. And Theresa May's credibility seems to
:16:55. > :16:58.be shot, one mistake after another, from originally getting the job
:16:59. > :17:05.because everyone else ran away to the problems over invoking Article
:17:06. > :17:09.50, having to be dragged into Parliament to have a meaningful
:17:10. > :17:13.debate and a vote on the final deal right through to the U-turn on a
:17:14. > :17:19.general election and now this ticking over her supposed mandate to
:17:20. > :17:25.take the Brexit negotiations. It is a government in chaos. Looking at
:17:26. > :17:30.the figures, you have just over half a million votes in the election
:17:31. > :17:34.which is roughly 2% which is probably half of what you got in
:17:35. > :17:39.percentage terms last time. How difficult was it for you? It was
:17:40. > :17:44.tough but we always knew we would take a hit. We have been pushing
:17:45. > :17:49.hard for voting for progressive candidates and standing aside in
:17:50. > :17:52.those seats and do have one MP with half a million votes underlined the
:17:53. > :17:57.ongoing unfairness of the system which is what we want to change. Not
:17:58. > :18:02.forgetting we have got almost double the number of votes as the DUP who
:18:03. > :18:08.are about to call the shots and that shows the Observer of the system. --
:18:09. > :18:13.of the absurdity of the system. We will hear from the Prime Minister
:18:14. > :18:21.later, but a Conservative administration basically supported
:18:22. > :18:23.by the DUP, ten MPs, is that the basis for a politically stable
:18:24. > :18:30.government in your view given the challenges ahead? The DUP I don't
:18:31. > :18:36.think are the kind of people you want calling the shots. We have just
:18:37. > :18:39.got rid of Ukip who seems to have finally died a death but without any
:18:40. > :18:44.MPs they were still calling shots and they said to the government to
:18:45. > :18:49.jump and they said how hype. We saw them pursue this extreme Brexit.
:18:50. > :18:53.What will happen with the DUP and are climate change scepticism? Will
:18:54. > :18:59.they exact a serious price for the government being propped up? That is
:19:00. > :19:03.a coalition of chaos. We will be hearing from the DUP later so maybe
:19:04. > :19:10.we will get some answers to that but thank you for joining us. What I
:19:11. > :19:15.would like to do is hear from some voters and we can go to York where
:19:16. > :19:23.one of those big debate took place at the University. Good morning.
:19:24. > :19:28.Absolutely glorious here in York and life is getting back to normal after
:19:29. > :19:33.a fairly busy night with some people queueing up ready to go off on a
:19:34. > :19:37.boat trip. A lot of people wondering what on earth happened last night
:19:38. > :19:42.and what it means, not least our voters. Good morning, everyone. I
:19:43. > :19:49.know between you there has not been much sleep! But a quick chat about
:19:50. > :19:55.how you feel. You were a Labour vote and you look happy. I am very happy
:19:56. > :19:58.this morning. I regret the fact that we can't be in a position to form a
:19:59. > :20:04.government but it's a brilliant result from where we were. And you
:20:05. > :20:08.are a student so how important to get out and vote? Really important.
:20:09. > :20:12.I was persuading a lot of people to vote no matter what party they were,
:20:13. > :20:17.it is important that students vote and the turnout has been miserable
:20:18. > :20:26.previously and nice to see it up. And you were a Ukip supporter but
:20:27. > :20:29.who did you vote for? I spoiled my ballot. I was very excited that none
:20:30. > :20:38.could form a government. They were terrible. You have won a Communist
:20:39. > :20:42.and Theresa May who is censoring the Internet, I don't think either
:20:43. > :20:45.platform deserves to form a government. But for Ukip is
:20:46. > :20:52.important to spoil your paper to say something? -- but for you it was
:20:53. > :20:57.important. You had to register your dismay at the system and the parties
:20:58. > :21:02.ignoring us. And you have been watching it all night, how are you
:21:03. > :21:07.feeling, you voted Conservative. I did, with a heavy heart. I feel they
:21:08. > :21:10.need to get more compassionate and get a social conscience, they are
:21:11. > :21:15.not listening to what people want but I felt they were the strongest
:21:16. > :21:21.party on the economy and to lead us into Brexit. I am dismayed at where
:21:22. > :21:27.we go and how we get through that. And I was talking to you the other
:21:28. > :21:33.day on Breakfast, a Lib Dem voter, how are you feeling? Bittersweet.
:21:34. > :21:44.Four games is actually quite good and in new places. -- four gains.
:21:45. > :21:49.But then Nick Clegg lost his seat. Were you shocked at that? No
:21:50. > :21:56.comment! You put your head in your hands earlier! I did! Now the
:21:57. > :22:01.cameras are rolling... But it was devastating because he was the
:22:02. > :22:06.reason I got infused in politics. Had it changed how you feel about
:22:07. > :22:13.politics? Not necessarily, it has made me more determined to change
:22:14. > :22:20.minds. And like these guys, you are young, do you feel there is more
:22:21. > :22:26.support for Young people now? The weird thing about this election,
:22:27. > :22:29.after Brexit and the referendum, everybody on my Facebook page
:22:30. > :22:34.started talking about politics and it was surreal because before that
:22:35. > :22:39.nothing like that happened. I think Brexit changed a lot of minds and
:22:40. > :22:44.allowed a lot of people to step into that sphere of politics when they
:22:45. > :22:48.didn't necessarily want to get involved before or didn't care. And
:22:49. > :22:54.you are nodding because that is important to you as well? The
:22:55. > :22:57.enthusiasm for politics. Even if you don't vote Conservative like I do,
:22:58. > :23:03.you should be involved in politics and make your voice heard because it
:23:04. > :23:08.is interested in what you are doing even if you are not interested in
:23:09. > :23:11.politics. Taxes, Internet censorship, day to day life. I'm
:23:12. > :23:16.obviously disappointed with the result but it is not the overall
:23:17. > :23:21.majority we wanted but it allows us to look at how Jeremy Corbyn has
:23:22. > :23:26.done well and it allows to to change for the future and reform the inner
:23:27. > :23:27.workings of the party and grow for the future pulls up what would you
:23:28. > :23:37.do if you were Theresa May? I would look at forming a coalition
:23:38. > :23:42.with sensible partners that can meet in agreement. Look at your face! I
:23:43. > :23:49.don't think it is going to happen. As I said before, I was going to say
:23:50. > :23:54.2-mac different pages in a book but it is two different books. I highly
:23:55. > :23:57.doubt it is going to happen. I don't it will either, I don't think it
:23:58. > :24:01.will be Lib Dems because neither party wants to be in coalition again
:24:02. > :24:07.after last time and we had to deal with you. It is more likely to be
:24:08. > :24:10.the DUP which I'm not happy with personally but it is the sensible
:24:11. > :24:17.solution because they are slightly closer to the Lib Dems. -- than the
:24:18. > :24:21.Lib Dems. You have bought a comfort cake this morning! You voted
:24:22. > :24:26.Conservative and you have a cake ready to eat! It was a long night
:24:27. > :24:31.and a disappointing night with the outcome. Off to work this morning
:24:32. > :24:41.and I had to buy some comfort food to get me through the day! It is a
:24:42. > :24:44.mess. For everybody, really. Thank you for joining us, we really
:24:45. > :24:50.appreciate it, at least we got to sit in the sunshine! That is it from
:24:51. > :24:55.me for now. Thank you very much and to all of your guests for some
:24:56. > :24:59.fascinating views. Steph McGovern with some young voters in York. I
:25:00. > :25:04.mentioned earlier that Jon Ford Jonker, the president of the
:25:05. > :25:12.European Commission had made a statement -- Jean Claude Junker.
:25:13. > :25:17.Also on the reactions of Donald Tusk and Michel Barnier on the impact of
:25:18. > :25:20.this uncertain election on the Brexit presses which is starting
:25:21. > :25:31.within days and I think we now have a statement from Mr Junker. All
:25:32. > :25:36.elections are important, not only in so-called big member states, but the
:25:37. > :25:42.one of yesterday was of particular importance. I do strongly hope that
:25:43. > :25:46.Britain will stay ready to open negotiations. As far as the
:25:47. > :25:50.commission is concerned, we can open negotiations tomorrow morning at
:25:51. > :25:54.half past nine so we are waiting for visitors coming from London. I hope
:25:55. > :26:01.we will not experience a further delay in the conclusion of this
:26:02. > :26:09.negotiation. First we have to agree on the divorce and exit modalities
:26:10. > :26:12.and then we have to envisage the architecture of future relations and
:26:13. > :26:18.I hope the result of the election will have no major impact on the
:26:19. > :26:24.negotiations we are desperately waiting for. What do we make of
:26:25. > :26:31.that? Very carefully worded message from Jean Claude Junker. Slightly
:26:32. > :26:35.menacing, rubbing our hands, waiting for you, we know you not ready for
:26:36. > :26:39.us, we are ready for you. There will be a lot of that in the next few
:26:40. > :26:43.days and a lot depends on whether the plans from the government for
:26:44. > :26:46.Brexit under David Davies and so forth can go ahead and it will be a
:26:47. > :26:51.big priority for Theresa May to get those going in an orderly way. There
:26:52. > :26:55.is a plan and she will hope above all that she can get it going. The
:26:56. > :27:00.one thing she could rescue from this, if she was the Prime Minister
:27:01. > :27:03.who negotiated what was widely seen as a successful negotiation we might
:27:04. > :27:10.start to forget about the disastrous election campaign she has had.
:27:11. > :27:14.Before we join Andrew Neill, it is surely the case that now that she is
:27:15. > :27:18.looking at these talks and having to talk to the DUP, that she might
:27:19. > :27:23.already be having to revise the options or parameters for those
:27:24. > :27:26.talks. The DUP take a much softer line on the single market for
:27:27. > :27:30.instance. The view in Downing Street is that we cannot possibly be
:27:31. > :27:34.members of the single market because that means we could not have control
:27:35. > :27:39.over EU migration and therefore it is out but the DUP pick a different
:27:40. > :27:43.view, like the SNP. We might start to the eighth reopening of that
:27:44. > :27:47.single market question which would drive Nigel Farage and the hard
:27:48. > :27:51.Brexiteers nuts with furious. Let's join Andrew Neill.
:27:52. > :28:06.I have Paddy Ashdown with me, Dominic Grieve, John Trickett. I
:28:07. > :28:10.have been looking at this headline from the London Evening Standard
:28:11. > :28:18.this morning which said" May hung out to dry". It says knives out for
:28:19. > :28:23.the Prime Minister after poll disaster. The editor these days is
:28:24. > :28:30.Mr George Osborne, former Cabinet colleagues. Had she been hung out to
:28:31. > :28:34.dry? It has been a disappointing result and what she was aiming to
:28:35. > :28:36.achieve, which was endorsement of the approach the government was
:28:37. > :28:40.going to take to the Brexit negotiations and the time to do it,
:28:41. > :28:48.is seriously called into question. One of the consequences of this vote
:28:49. > :28:51.is that we once again see how Brexit has destabilised the British
:28:52. > :28:55.political system and when you have revolutionary acts like Brexit, the
:28:56. > :28:59.trouble is it create a swing the pendulum in another direction and in
:29:00. > :29:04.this case it has centred on young people mainly who I suspect may not
:29:05. > :29:07.have been in favour of Brexit, but didn't actually vote in the
:29:08. > :29:12.referendum, expressing their unhappiness by being attracted to
:29:13. > :29:16.other options, some of which I think were economically incoherent but
:29:17. > :29:23.nevertheless attractive. But are the knives out for Mrs May? Not from me.
:29:24. > :29:27.Seeing that the Queen's government has to be carried on and there is no
:29:28. > :29:30.party I think apart from the Conservative Party capable of acting
:29:31. > :29:34.in government, the idea that it would be in the national interest to
:29:35. > :29:40.change the Prime Minister at this stage seems to be far-fetched. The
:29:41. > :29:44.Lib Dems hopes to milk the remaining macro constituency to become the
:29:45. > :29:48.party of the Remain voters but it has not quite worked out. But on the
:29:49. > :29:53.other hand we have increased our number of MPs bike 50% and name
:29:54. > :30:01.another party leader who is don't that. We are starting from a small
:30:02. > :30:06.base, and they are not irrelevant if you are growing not just in numbers
:30:07. > :30:12.but in ability. You have 13 seats, that's it. Indeed and nobody is
:30:13. > :30:17.suggesting that is a position that can build a government from
:30:18. > :30:21.tomorrow... Your leader said there were scores of seed you were going
:30:22. > :30:26.to win. The party is growing again and it has people with real weight,
:30:27. > :30:30.Jo Swinson, Vince Cable, they will make a difference. The real
:30:31. > :30:34.question, and by the way the Evening Standard headline is great, I think
:30:35. > :30:37.it is George Osborne's revenge and a long time coming but the reality is
:30:38. > :30:44.the Prime Minister has lost touch with reality. She has no legitimate
:30:45. > :30:48.democratic credibility at all. She put a proposition to the country
:30:49. > :30:52.asking for a mandate for a hard Brexit, the country returned a
:30:53. > :30:55.resounding raspberry and yet she still goes off to see the Queen as
:30:56. > :30:59.if nothing had happened. Executive is going to be the policy of the
:31:00. > :31:03.government as a matter of interest? Is it hard Brexit in which case she
:31:04. > :31:07.is ignoring the fact that the British people have refused to give
:31:08. > :31:10.her a mandate for that or is it a soft Brexit she will now convert two
:31:11. > :31:14.in which case you have a Prime Minister who studied at a Remainer,
:31:15. > :31:19.became a Brexiteer, proposed hard Brexit and is now going to the EU to
:31:20. > :31:24.say that she wants a soft one! This has all the consistency of the Vicar
:31:25. > :31:31.of Bray. It is... Did the Vicar of Bray win yesterday? Not by any
:31:32. > :31:34.manner of means! But she has no democratic legitimacy for the
:31:35. > :31:38.proposition she has made. To put the dear old Queen through this process
:31:39. > :31:40.again it is a bit like London buses, if you wait long in another
:31:41. > :31:45.Conservative Prime Minister will come along soon and it will. She
:31:46. > :31:49.cannot last, her position is untenable. This is a position which
:31:50. > :31:55.she can have no credibility at home and no bargaining power with the EU.
:31:56. > :32:01.Given the uncertainty, is Labour in a position to form a minority
:32:02. > :32:04.Government? The first thing is, she is the Prime Minister, I went to the
:32:05. > :32:10.civil service the other day, in charge of the transition team, had
:32:11. > :32:14.we won, they made it clear that in the case of a hung parliament... She
:32:15. > :32:19.has first chance. Look at the mess they're in. They've Brexit on the
:32:20. > :32:26.19th, Queen's Speech on the same day, by the way. Then on 26th, the
:32:27. > :32:32.collapse of the possible Northern Irish... Let me come back to the
:32:33. > :32:35.question. Is Labour in a position to form a minority Government? We
:32:36. > :32:40.believe we can put together the Queen's Speech which would command a
:32:41. > :32:43.majority in the House, but that is not our option until she
:32:44. > :32:47.demonstrates she is incapable of doing it. The constitutional
:32:48. > :32:52.position is she needs to come to us. There are serious problems she's
:32:53. > :32:56.created for the country and this Irish problem, she's proposing to
:32:57. > :33:02.depend on the DUP. You want to talk about her, but I want to talk about
:33:03. > :33:07.Labour. Let me ask you this. If, as you argue, she cannot put together a
:33:08. > :33:12.Government with 318 Conservative MPs, how can Labour put together a
:33:13. > :33:19.stable Government with 261 MPs? We think we can put together a Queen's
:33:20. > :33:24.Speech that will command a majority. How with 261 MPs? We think there
:33:25. > :33:27.will be a wide support for a range of problems facing our country. We
:33:28. > :33:31.think we can do that. Even if you got all the Lib Dems, Paddy is
:33:32. > :33:36.shaking his head there, even if you got all the SNP, not as many of them
:33:37. > :33:39.any more. The one Green. Who else are you going to get? Look, we will
:33:40. > :33:43.put a proposal to the House if we are given the opportunity by the
:33:44. > :33:46.Queen. You have told me you think you can get it. Where does the
:33:47. > :33:49.majority come from? We are not talking about a coalition or
:33:50. > :33:52.anything like that. I am asking where does the support come from? We
:33:53. > :33:55.will put the proposals down, if we are given the opportunity by the
:33:56. > :34:00.Queen and see what happens. If nobody's able to form a Government,
:34:01. > :34:03.then you know as well as I do, we are back into an election. You think
:34:04. > :34:09.there may be another election this year? I think there will be an
:34:10. > :34:13.election. Are you trying to cheer us up or make us miserable! Are we
:34:14. > :34:17.really going to have a Government that depends on the unionists with a
:34:18. > :34:26.power-sharing executive about to collapse? It's outrageous. Let me
:34:27. > :34:32.ask you, Dominic, MrsMay made a calculation which has turned out to
:34:33. > :34:36.be a massive miscalculation and has plummeted this country into
:34:37. > :34:41.instability and uncertainty. What's wrong with that statement? I don't
:34:42. > :34:45.disagree that the consequence of the election is to create greater
:34:46. > :34:49.uncertainty. But the question, to come back to the point. And
:34:50. > :34:54.instability. The question is how do we carry on the Queen's Government?
:34:55. > :34:57.We have an immediate election, not sure the electorate would welcome
:34:58. > :35:00.that, or we have to try to put together a policy that can be taken
:35:01. > :35:05.forward. It's quite apparent that only the Conservative Party can do
:35:06. > :35:10.that. This is fantasy land of Labour to suggest they can put a Government
:35:11. > :35:14.together. Dominic is right, it is fantasy, but it is also fantasy to
:35:15. > :35:18.think she can continue. The thing that... You think she should step
:35:19. > :35:22.down? The thing that frightened me more than anything else, in her
:35:23. > :35:26.explanation as to why she would see the Queen, she said the country
:35:27. > :35:31.needs stability. The country was, oh, no, not more MrsMay stability!
:35:32. > :35:35.There is no Prime Minister we have had, perhaps xepting only MrCameron,
:35:36. > :35:38.who has given this country so much instability. You were right, it's a
:35:39. > :35:44.mess. The country is broken. It's fractured. It's adrift. Doesn't know
:35:45. > :35:48.what to do next. If the Conservative Party want to appeal to Her Majesty
:35:49. > :35:51.and given a chance to form a Government as they are entitled to
:35:52. > :35:56.do, they have to choose another leader. Sooner or later they will.
:35:57. > :36:02.Is there a contest coming up in the Conservative Party? I have no idea,
:36:03. > :36:06.I have no desire to see it. It will be more levels of disruption and not
:36:07. > :36:11.sure where the public interest is. We are proposing to have a second
:36:12. > :36:16.Prime Minister never elected, what a bizarre situation the Conservative
:36:17. > :36:21.Party are... I want to reflect on this statement, if any is wrong,
:36:22. > :36:25.just tell me. We have had two Conservative Prime Ministers who
:36:26. > :36:28.have given this country, insisted on giving this country a vote we
:36:29. > :36:32.neither needed nor wanted, in the interests of the Conservative Party,
:36:33. > :36:36.not of the nation. In both cases, we vended up in a bigger mess. Why
:36:37. > :36:41.should anybody trust any of you ever again? I have to say that my
:36:42. > :36:44.experience of the last five years in politics is there is good reasons
:36:45. > :36:48.why the electorate shouldn't trust any politicians ever again, that's
:36:49. > :36:50.my anxiety about this, I would like to see some stable Government. It
:36:51. > :36:55.seems to me that the best way forward is the way that the Prime
:36:56. > :36:58.Minister's proposed this morning. Everything I hear from you, the
:36:59. > :37:04.difficulty of Mrs May being the walking wounded, but trying to put a
:37:05. > :37:09.Government together, and of the real difficulty of MrCorbyn with 261
:37:10. > :37:13.seats trying to get a programme through parliament, that we are in a
:37:14. > :37:19.period now of indefinite instability and uncertainty. She is the walking
:37:20. > :37:24.wounded and who shot her? She shot herself, that's the situation we are
:37:25. > :37:28.in. She's created, let me finish, created pressure in terms of Brexit.
:37:29. > :37:32.Nobody decided the time-scale, expect her. Nobody decided the 19th,
:37:33. > :37:34.it wasn't imposed on her, it was decided with her consent. Nobody
:37:35. > :37:38.decided the Queen's Speech should be on the same day. All we should be
:37:39. > :37:43.relying on... You have made the points twice. Yes or no, will there
:37:44. > :37:47.be another election before the end of the year? God help us, we have
:37:48. > :37:54.had enough. It looks like it. Dominic? I have no idea, it's
:37:55. > :37:57.possible. I think so and we have a Labour Government, I am sure of it.
:37:58. > :38:02.We will see. Huw, back to you. Andrew, thank you. Thank you to your
:38:03. > :38:05.guests. Well, before we even get to the thought of another election,
:38:06. > :38:11.there is the point about how they try to construct a Government this
:38:12. > :38:14.time following this election. We now know the Democratic Unionist Party
:38:15. > :38:17.in Northern Ireland is absolutely critical to the solution that
:38:18. > :38:21.Theresa May is hoping to put together and one she may address
:38:22. > :38:24.when she speaks later probably in Downing Street within the hour,
:38:25. > :38:29.probably, on her way to see the Queen at Buckingham Palace. Let's
:38:30. > :38:34.have the latest intelligence from Belfast on what that DUP mindset
:38:35. > :38:38.might be going into this and Chris Buckler is there. Northern Ireland
:38:39. > :38:42.only has 18 MPs and normally they don't matter that much in a
:38:43. > :38:45.parliament of 650 people but boy do they mat they are time.
:38:46. > :38:49.Particularly, the ten MPs that the DUP are coming out of this election
:38:50. > :38:54.with. There is no doubt that the parties have been talking, talking
:38:55. > :38:57.for sometime, as it is they have a good relationship at Westminster.
:38:58. > :39:01.Even in 2015 when there was talk of a hung parliament, at that stage the
:39:02. > :39:05.DUP and Conservatives were chatting. Working out whether or not they
:39:06. > :39:09.could potentially do a deal. There have been some private negotiations
:39:10. > :39:12.to ensure that the DUP would back the Tories in some of the votes that
:39:13. > :39:18.have taken place in the last parliament. Now they say at this
:39:19. > :39:21.stage talk of a formal agreement is premature. But they accept there
:39:22. > :39:24.have been talks, there have been soundings and they are trying to
:39:25. > :39:28.work out some kind of a deal. The big question is what will that be?
:39:29. > :39:32.Will it be something of confidence and supply, they vote with them? Or
:39:33. > :39:36.do they want something more formal in return? One thing's for sure they
:39:37. > :39:41.will want something in return for it. That's likely to be some money
:39:42. > :39:45.for the economy in Northern Ireland, some money of some sort. And
:39:46. > :39:48.certainly a say in what happens in terms of the Brexit negotiations.
:39:49. > :39:53.They believe this could put them into a good position. They are,
:39:54. > :39:57.frankly, licking their lips at the prospect of being able to have some
:39:58. > :40:00.kind of ear towards the Prime Minister and a Government. As these
:40:01. > :40:03.negotiations take place, they have a range of different issues when it
:40:04. > :40:08.comes to making sure the border is as open as possible, making sure
:40:09. > :40:13.that potentially money comes in. They are really openly saying they
:40:14. > :40:17.want to be a part of something here. Thank you very much. Any more, and
:40:18. > :40:20.we will be back to you. I have a comment here from the Taoiseach, the
:40:21. > :40:24.Irish Prime Minister and we do know that Nicola Sturgeon, the First
:40:25. > :40:28.Minister of Scotland, is also making a statement at midday. We hope to
:40:29. > :40:33.have that live for you. But the comment from the Irish Taoiseach
:40:34. > :40:36.saying this, the inconclusive outcome of Britain's election
:40:37. > :40:39.amounts to a rejection of a hard Brexit and provides an opportunity
:40:40. > :40:43.for Ireland, he says, it's a rejection of a hard Brexit terms,
:40:44. > :40:48.what do we think of that? Very interesting. Everybody is piling in
:40:49. > :40:53.with their own interpretation. The truth is if Theresa May has less rum
:40:54. > :40:57.for negotiations, will find it harder to do compromise deals, that
:40:58. > :41:01.doesn't mean we will go to a soft Brexit direction, it might head to a
:41:02. > :41:07.hard Brexit. It depends whose votes in the House of Commons she's most
:41:08. > :41:10.frightened of. There is firm, clear Brexiteer group in the House of
:41:11. > :41:14.Commons is better organised in terms of meetings and groups and making
:41:15. > :41:19.their view felt than anybody on the other side of the arcment. When you
:41:20. > :41:24.look at that group they're prepared to go out and go after Brexit,
:41:25. > :41:27.Euroscepticism in a way that they put ahead of the party. Some MPs
:41:28. > :41:32.might not be prepared to do, but they will. As you say, it depends on
:41:33. > :41:36.the pressure. We can look at the second edition of the Evening
:41:37. > :41:40.Standard. The front page, of course the editor is one George Osbourne.
:41:41. > :41:44.Former Chancellor. Ever since he has taken over that job the headlines
:41:45. > :41:49.have not been friendly to Theresa May. We now have May's Irish bail
:41:50. > :41:53.out. I think one of the lines underneath is orange is the new
:41:54. > :41:57.blue. Pretty provocative, you might add. But certainly true, as has been
:41:58. > :42:02.discussed by our correspondent there in terms of what they may or may not
:42:03. > :42:05.want. The timing is critical. She's going, as is convention, going to
:42:06. > :42:08.the Queen to say she can form this new Government, the DUP are still
:42:09. > :42:12.talking. They're obviously talking behind the scenes. Meanwhile,
:42:13. > :42:16.Theresa May has got to put this Government together. Now Steve Hawks
:42:17. > :42:20.at The Sun has said reshuffle is obviously going to happen for those
:42:21. > :42:25.ministers lower down the food chain but who lost their seats and she
:42:26. > :42:28.will be replacing them with people whom again will reflect, interesting
:42:29. > :42:32.to see how they reflect the Brexit decision and the Brexit discussion.
:42:33. > :42:43.We can see the reshuffle is certain for this afternoon.
:42:44. > :42:49.A quick thought, Peter? On the Irish point, it's hard on a morning like
:42:50. > :42:53.this to find anything consensual, everybody is lined up on the need to
:42:54. > :42:57.get the Irish thing sorted as quickly as possible, the common
:42:58. > :42:59.travel area and the rest, the Taoiseach, the Commission, Northern
:43:00. > :43:02.Ireland people and the Government. I think there are reasons to be
:43:03. > :43:08.cheerful but then it gets difficult to work out how to do it. But there
:43:09. > :43:13.is a consensus there in a way there is in other places this morning.
:43:14. > :43:18.Theresa May's Conservatives notched up 42. 4% of the vote in this
:43:19. > :43:21.election. It wasn't enough to get them a majority in the Commons. How
:43:22. > :43:26.does that compare with previous performances? We had a look at
:43:27. > :43:30.Labour's historic performances earlier with Jeremy. Let's have the
:43:31. > :43:33.Conservative now. It's a funny situation. In our
:43:34. > :43:37.system when you have a hung parliament, whether you describe the
:43:38. > :43:41.party with the most number of seats as having won the election or just
:43:42. > :43:45.come first or what? Because in a sense you only win by having an
:43:46. > :43:48.outright majority. Let's try and get context then. Let's see previous
:43:49. > :43:57.Conservative winners and let's look at the number of seats they got.
:43:58. > :44:03.Theresa May with 319 in 2017, not an outright majority. That's caused all
:44:04. > :44:07.the trouble. The majority she threw away, the seats she threw away,
:44:08. > :44:11.Conservative 331 in 2015, that was David Cameron's shock victory that
:44:12. > :44:15.put him in control surprisingly in the House of Commons: She will be
:44:16. > :44:18.ruing that day for the rest of her political career she decided to
:44:19. > :44:23.revisit that result. She could have stuck with it for five years. She
:44:24. > :44:25.didn't. Now seat numbers, how many seats were won in previous elections
:44:26. > :44:31.where the The phrasing is important. It's
:44:32. > :44:35.difficult to say Cameron won the election when he didn't get an
:44:36. > :44:38.overall majority. He had to go into coalition with the Liberal Democrats
:44:39. > :44:44.and had 307. That's below where Theresa May finds herself today.
:44:45. > :44:50.In 1992, John Major squeaked in with 336. It was narrow. It gave him five
:44:51. > :44:55.years of trouble at Westminster but it was an outright victory. Then the
:44:56. > :45:02.landslide for MrsThatcher, we are picking Conservative winners here
:45:03. > :45:04.and having a look at how many. 376. 397 against Michael Foot. That was a
:45:05. > :45:11.very big victory for the Conservatives. We go back to the
:45:12. > :45:14.first Thatcher win. 1979, 339. All of them were majorities. Theresa
:45:15. > :45:18.May's isn't. That's the whole problem. She hasn't got over half
:45:19. > :45:23.the MPs in the House of Commons. That's why all this horse trading is
:45:24. > :45:26.starting. 1970 surprise victory for Edward Heath. From that point of
:45:27. > :45:29.view if you are going to call Theresa May one of the winners here
:45:30. > :45:33.in that she got more seats than any other party, she's not a very
:45:34. > :45:35.convincing winner and may even be out of a job soon. Who knows. There
:45:36. > :45:45.is a line of defence. We can look at this differently,
:45:46. > :45:51.going back to the 70s and Edward Heath and his percentage of the
:45:52. > :45:56.vote. It was in the 40s, 46%. And we're coming off the period where
:45:57. > :46:04.the two main parties shared around 90% of the vote. We have missed is
:46:05. > :46:12.that you're winning with 45% and in the landslide with 43% so we are in
:46:13. > :46:17.the 40s. John Major in 1992 with 43% again and then it starts to decline
:46:18. > :46:22.because Ukip are on the pitch and the Lib Dems are stronger and the
:46:23. > :46:29.Greens and so on. We were thinking in 2010 we might not see the big
:46:30. > :46:36.parties above 40%. Cameron had 37% in 2010, not convincing, and then
:46:37. > :46:41.his majority but still in 2015 he did not have 40% so have a look at
:46:42. > :46:48.what Theresa May has done, 44% of the vote. That undercut the
:46:49. > :46:51.conversation about the disaster. She and her supporters in their last
:46:52. > :46:57.ditch attempt to say this is not so bad could say that 44%, you are
:46:58. > :47:03.talking about the proportion of the vote that Mrs Thatcher got when she
:47:04. > :47:07.beat Michael foot in 1983 which is remarkable. Of course it is a
:47:08. > :47:12.function of the smaller parties claiming the state and particularly
:47:13. > :47:13.Ukip not doing much but it is interesting you can use that line of
:47:14. > :47:23.defence for Theresa May. Maybe we should wish them luck with
:47:24. > :47:28.that line of defence! It underlines the outcome, thank you, of a hung
:47:29. > :47:34.parliament and a lot of signals from within the Conservative Party that
:47:35. > :47:39.people are increasingly, really, dismayed and angered and frustrated
:47:40. > :47:46.with the style of government. Sarah Wollaston contributing to this
:47:47. > :47:51.chorus of voices, talking about Theresa May's special advisers.
:47:52. > :47:54.Criticising that style of government because Sarah Wollaston, a prominent
:47:55. > :47:59.Conservative MP, obviously feels this was an own goal and
:48:00. > :48:04.self-inflicted and she is calling for the advisers to go. In our
:48:05. > :48:09.earlier discussion, Theresa May needs people she trusts around her,
:48:10. > :48:13.but you can understand why there will be a chorus saying that we need
:48:14. > :48:17.to blame someone and if it is not Theresa May directly by calling for
:48:18. > :48:24.her to go, we have to blame the people around her. Thing is, let's
:48:25. > :48:31.damaged her. You suggested earlier and strongly, that she couldn't
:48:32. > :48:35.really function without these people. Every Prime Minister has a
:48:36. > :48:40.different style and there is no easy answer. If you go back to full-scale
:48:41. > :48:45.Cabinet government, you have endless conversations and they get licked
:48:46. > :48:48.and Cabinet committees have conversations and they get leaked.
:48:49. > :48:52.In a pressure to get a tight in a team. Tony Blair rapid, he got
:48:53. > :48:58.criticised for the sofa government but it was highly effective for a
:48:59. > :49:02.long time. There is always a pendulum and she has gone for a
:49:03. > :49:05.tight in a team. But if you save that you can carry on as Prime
:49:06. > :49:10.Minister but we will remove your inner team and see how you get on,
:49:11. > :49:15.it is difficult. There have been notable examples were her own
:49:16. > :49:18.ministers have gone out to bat on a particular policy, controversial it
:49:19. > :49:21.may be, and I'm thinking of the national insurance contributions for
:49:22. > :49:25.the self-employed when Philip Hammond said they would go up, it
:49:26. > :49:30.was a manifesto promise that had been broken, but we spoke to
:49:31. > :49:33.ministers who supported it and as they were doing it she had
:49:34. > :49:39.backtracked. There is bad experience. He mentioned Philip
:49:40. > :49:44.Hammond, what is clear to a lot of Tories this morning is that she has
:49:45. > :49:49.to go out and make new connections with key ministers and it is always
:49:50. > :49:52.dangerous for the Prime Minister and the Chancellor to be dislocated and
:49:53. > :49:57.that was bidding to happen. Philip Hammond is much like in the city --
:49:58. > :50:01.that was beginning to happen. He is seen as a strong voice for their
:50:02. > :50:06.interest inside this government and if she got rid of him that voice
:50:07. > :50:10.would go. Very important in this case the less about the advisers but
:50:11. > :50:14.more the ministers that she had to make better relationships with. They
:50:15. > :50:18.will have to reach out. What is history tell us about the way that
:50:19. > :50:24.certain ways of working within number ten had been successful or
:50:25. > :50:29.not? Going back to the old days, Jim Callaghan and Clement Attlee in a
:50:30. > :50:35.different way work collegial about everything. Jim in particular on
:50:36. > :50:40.nuclear weapons and also interest rate decisions which were buried
:50:41. > :50:44.particular -- very political at that time. And you need the gift for
:50:45. > :50:51.political friendship and Mrs May does not naturally have that. Every
:50:52. > :50:56.primaries to need his or her friends at times of crisis and four are all
:50:57. > :51:02.her gifts, Mrs make is an iceberg. And a final thing on leadership, as
:51:03. > :51:07.we know, Theresa May went into this about leadership, her leadership,
:51:08. > :51:09.and Jeremy Corbyn was criticised endlessly for leading a party whose
:51:10. > :51:15.manifesto he did not believe in entirely but he made a virtue of the
:51:16. > :51:18.fact they had come to a collective view, it was a collegiate affair
:51:19. > :51:24.will stop he was criticised for that but there will be the irony that she
:51:25. > :51:27.has not done as well as she expected on the basis of the strong
:51:28. > :51:33.leadership and he has done better by being collected and collegiate. What
:51:34. > :51:41.I would like to do at this point, we were talking about the Conservative
:51:42. > :51:47.Party performance, with 44%, Labour with 40% and before I go to Emma
:51:48. > :51:51.Lane to talk about some of the point about what Jeremy Corbyn has
:51:52. > :51:57.achieved in terms of the share which we need to underline -- I will go to
:51:58. > :52:02.Emily. He has done better than anyone apart from Clement Attlee in
:52:03. > :52:10.1945 which is a strange statement to hear, Corbyn coming from the left.
:52:11. > :52:15.In Attlee's terms he might not be regarded as that far left, but he
:52:16. > :52:20.has driven their share of the vote sharply upwards and that is the
:52:21. > :52:23.achievement of Momentum and the social media campaign and the
:52:24. > :52:28.unorthodox style of campaigning that a lot of people like us sneered at
:52:29. > :52:31.saying it would never work but it did. It is a major game changer and
:52:32. > :52:35.all of the British parties will look at this and our political culture
:52:36. > :52:40.will feel slightly different as a result. And it is a delayed effect
:52:41. > :52:43.of the huge expansion of British higher education, this vote was
:52:44. > :52:49.waiting to be harvested. When I went to college it was 7.5% of the age
:52:50. > :52:54.group and it is now 45% and they have tapped it for the first time.
:52:55. > :52:59.Let's see how they did. When Jeremy Corbyn says he is ready to serve the
:53:00. > :53:04.country he does so from a stronger geographical mandate, no longer to
:53:05. > :53:10.be seen as the if you like hummus eating MP for Islington North, he do
:53:11. > :53:15.so on the back of these kinds of gains, 35 overnight and in all sorts
:53:16. > :53:22.of different areas in the country. Canterbury, Ipswich, Stroud, places
:53:23. > :53:25.you never thought we would see Labour taking. This is particularly
:53:26. > :53:31.extraordinary, and incredibly safe Conservative seat, it has not been
:53:32. > :53:38.anything other than Conservative since World War I. Julian Brazier
:53:39. > :53:42.has been the sitting MP here since 1987 and to take this was a real
:53:43. > :53:48.feather in the cap for Jeremy Corbyn and a massive swing of nearly 10%.
:53:49. > :53:56.And not the only outside London part that they took, you can see Stroud,
:53:57. > :54:01.again, this Cotswolds town at small swing required but they overturned a
:54:02. > :54:06.majority of nearly 5000, 4.5% swing and the same sort of story. Ipswich
:54:07. > :54:11.perhaps the story of the night, one of them, ousting Ben Gummer, who
:54:12. > :54:15.helped write the Conservative manifesto, who was tipped a week ago
:54:16. > :54:23.to be the next Brexit secretary if she got her big majority. Sandy
:54:24. > :54:26.Martin comes in, a tight race but a 5% swing against and the same sort
:54:27. > :54:34.of story. There was one result we are still waiting for to complete
:54:35. > :54:38.the map and that is tingling -- that is tending to them. This is what it
:54:39. > :54:49.is interesting we hear there are about 35 votes between the parties
:54:50. > :54:55.-- Kensington. These are the different constituencies bordering
:54:56. > :55:03.Kensington. When Smith, a swing of 11p -- Westminster. Chelsea and in
:55:04. > :55:10.the City of London you saw earlier, Conservative to Labour of just over
:55:11. > :55:14.9%. When we look at Kensington something that seemed not even worth
:55:15. > :55:19.considering in the target list, we are now looking very closely at
:55:20. > :55:23.this. And I want to finish on one more comparison if we can and that
:55:24. > :55:29.is our exit poll and how the results have fared. At the beginning of the
:55:30. > :55:35.night we were very nervous when we said we expected the Conservatives
:55:36. > :55:39.to be the largest party but only on about 314 seats and this is where we
:55:40. > :55:44.end the night, lunchtime, and it is a very similar pattern with the
:55:45. > :55:50.result in so far come all of them bar one, you can see how closely
:55:51. > :55:55.those results tally and the psephologists were bang on once
:55:56. > :55:59.again. Very interesting and good to underline the SNP and Lib Dem
:56:00. > :56:02.performances because we are expecting Nicola Sturgeon to say
:56:03. > :56:08.something within the next few minutes. We will be there
:56:09. > :56:12.straightaway when it happens, that is the scene in Edinburgh. What do
:56:13. > :56:19.you expect? I would be surprised if she resigns, you always wonder at
:56:20. > :56:23.this stage if that will happen, but the old thing about there being more
:56:24. > :56:28.pandas in Scotland than Tory MPs! I expect they will announce an
:56:29. > :56:35.emergency panda breeding programme! We shall see! And Tim Farron, the
:56:36. > :56:41.Lib Dem leader, is also expected to make a statement in the next few
:56:42. > :56:45.minutes. I think that is at the National Liberal club in Whitehall.
:56:46. > :56:52.He held onto his seat in Westmorland and Lonsdale in a pretty close run
:56:53. > :56:55.thing. Tim Farron also expected to make a statement in the next few
:56:56. > :57:02.minutes. Nicola Sturgeon and Tim Farron. We can join Andrew at
:57:03. > :57:05.Westminster. Clearly if we get Nicola Sturgeon or Tim Farron we
:57:06. > :57:11.will come back straightaway. Of course, the moment they take the
:57:12. > :57:16.stage we will find out what they have to say it but I'm joined by
:57:17. > :57:24.Thorsten Bell, former adviser to add Helen Loos and let me come to you
:57:25. > :57:28.first. The Prime Minister is off to see the Queen, I think she thinks
:57:29. > :57:34.she's got the DUP in the bag and she will tell the Queen she can form a
:57:35. > :57:39.government. What happens next? In some ways it is actually quite
:57:40. > :57:44.simple, we have at the campaign, and at the end of it what she has done
:57:45. > :57:48.is lose 12 Conservative MPs and gain ten DUP MPs and carry on with a
:57:49. > :57:52.slightly smaller majority. For all of the noise this morning that looks
:57:53. > :57:56.like where we are going so in the short term the situation is quite
:57:57. > :58:00.clear, she will try to carry on. Beyond that everything is up for
:58:01. > :58:04.grabs, what happened in the Tory party, what's the DUP ask for and
:58:05. > :58:10.how long Theresa May lasts. Can she get away with it? Not for long
:58:11. > :58:13.because you think about the big ticket things from their manifesto,
:58:14. > :58:22.what can she get cross-party support on? A lot of it will have to go.
:58:23. > :58:26.Social care is interesting because there was Labour support for a
:58:27. > :58:30.different package, but something as simple as the pensions triple-lock
:58:31. > :58:33.or double-lock, no way you get that past now. And the DUP will want the
:58:34. > :58:39.triple-lock looking at the profile of their supporters? It all sounds a
:58:40. > :58:43.bit the opposite of stable and strong, weak and unstable.
:58:44. > :58:48.Wonderfully weak and unstable and that is one of the things that makes
:58:49. > :58:52.Parliament historically the guarantee of liberties in that there
:58:53. > :58:56.can be an election at any point and the Tories will not want to fight
:58:57. > :58:59.another election under the leadership of Theresa May. You are
:59:00. > :59:04.the second person who said that this morning, but they are so disgusted
:59:05. > :59:12.by the campaign and how she handled it. They won't let her do it again.
:59:13. > :59:16.It was all her and her tight-knit group 's idea. It took everybody by
:59:17. > :59:23.surprise. Her idea and it did not work out. Of course, she has lost
:59:24. > :59:26.the trust of the Tory party. You were careful to stress in the
:59:27. > :59:31.short-term she might get her way on this but it could unravel but since
:59:32. > :59:34.we still have the fixed in Parliament act, if it unravels it
:59:35. > :59:41.does not necessarily mean another election, it can mean that Mr Carbon
:59:42. > :59:47.has a chance of forming a minority government. -- Mr Corbyn. It looks
:59:48. > :59:51.like she will try to form a government today with the DUP and
:59:52. > :59:56.she can try to pass a Queen's speech in about two weeks' time also if the
:59:57. > :00:00.DUP pull out a bad deal or she cannot pass that, the get the fixed
:00:01. > :00:03.in Parliament act for a second, just the constitution, history would
:00:04. > :00:06.teach us that the Queen would call on the leader of the option to try
:00:07. > :00:13.to form a government but he himself would need the DUP, not a coalition,
:00:14. > :00:16.but he needs the Lib Dems and SNP and DUP to pass a Queen's speech and
:00:17. > :00:19.without that we are heading for another election. What do you make
:00:20. > :00:23.of that? That the problem for Labour, this is a good result for
:00:24. > :00:27.them but nowhere near getting in a place where they can cobble
:00:28. > :00:32.together... The grandest coalitions. Let me interrupt you, we are about
:00:33. > :00:42.to hear I think from Tim Farron, the leader of the Lib Dems.
:00:43. > :00:45.Let's hear what he has to say. APPLAUSE AND
:00:46. > :00:57.CHEERING. Thank you all for being here, I am
:00:58. > :00:58.the member of parliament for Oxford West and Abingdon.
:00:59. > :01:12.APPLAUSE AND CHEERING That feels good to say! It has been
:01:13. > :01:16.the most extraordinary 24 hours because this time, was it yesterday
:01:17. > :01:21.or the day before, I can't remember, Tim was in Oxford having the final
:01:22. > :01:26.rally of the campaign. We were there with all our activists saying knock
:01:27. > :01:33.on doors until the very end. We did. And we won by the shrimp of
:01:34. > :01:38.majorities, but what that now means is Oxford West is represented again
:01:39. > :01:49.by Liberal values and that's what it's all about.
:01:50. > :01:53.APPLAUSE. So, this is my first engagement as a member of parliament
:01:54. > :01:56.and it is with great pleasure to now hand over to the man who made it all
:01:57. > :02:11.possible, our leader, Tim Farron! APPLAUSE AND
:02:12. > :02:15.CHEERING. Thank you, Layla, it was less than 48 hours ago, at Oxford
:02:16. > :02:18.United's ground where we rallied the troops and asked people to work
:02:19. > :02:23.their hardest for the final push. You did. And we got the result that
:02:24. > :02:28.we did, I am enormously grateful to all of you and very, very proud to
:02:29. > :02:35.welcome Layla here to the National Liberal Club. This was the hardest
:02:36. > :02:43.of elections, marred by the tragedy of those two vile terrorist attacks
:02:44. > :02:49.in Manchester and in London. And now the future of our country is less
:02:50. > :02:54.certain than it was when Theresa May called this election a
:02:55. > :02:58.month-and-a-half ago. For the Liberal Democrats, we have made
:02:59. > :03:02.progress in incredibly difficult circumstances and we face a new
:03:03. > :03:08.parliament in a far stronger position than we left the last one.
:03:09. > :03:12.I am delighted to welcome back some old friends, Jo Swinson, Vince
:03:13. > :03:17.Cable, Ed Davey, and we of course are bolstering our ranks with those
:03:18. > :03:23.big figures who have served our country in Government. We will now
:03:24. > :03:26.be able to put their talent and experience to shaping what comes
:03:27. > :03:33.next. In Steven Lloyd we welcome back a force of nature, a brilliant
:03:34. > :03:39.campaigner and a loyal servant to his constituents. Alongside Alistair
:03:40. > :03:44.Carmichael, Norman and Tim, they are returning to a formidable team. I am
:03:45. > :03:52.also incredibly proud to welcome new faces to our ranks. Christine
:03:53. > :03:55.Jardina, Vera and Layla and Jamie, we have fantastic campaigners who
:03:56. > :03:59.will be outstanding Members of Parliament for their constituents
:04:00. > :04:05.and for our country as a whole. Now I am not just proud that our
:04:06. > :04:10.parliamentary party is bigger, but also that it is more diverse. After
:04:11. > :04:15.the 2015 general election we were reduced to just eight seats, all of
:04:16. > :04:21.them represented by white men. We are not yet at the point where our
:04:22. > :04:27.party fully reflects the diversity of our great country but we have
:04:28. > :04:32.made real progress. While we have made great gains, we have also lost
:04:33. > :04:39.colleagues who will be very sorely missed. Nick Clegg is a giant of
:04:40. > :04:43.British politics, a friend and a hero to me and countless others. Not
:04:44. > :04:49.only did he lead our party into Government for the first time in
:04:50. > :04:55.generations, he did so in the most difficult of circumstances and for
:04:56. > :05:00.the most noble of reasons. Our party paid a political price for joining
:05:01. > :05:05.that coalition Government but it is nothing compared to the price our
:05:06. > :05:11.country would have paid had Nick not shown the steel and determination to
:05:12. > :05:14.do the right thing when it was needed most.
:05:15. > :05:32.APPLAUSE. In 2010, our country was on the edge
:05:33. > :05:36.of a precipe, because of Nick Clegg it survived and flourished. The
:05:37. > :05:41.pupil premium which has helped so many children get the start in life
:05:42. > :05:43.they deserve, would not have happened without Nick Clegg,
:05:44. > :05:49.same-sex marriage would not have happened without Nick Clegg, the
:05:50. > :05:52.children of asylum seekers would have remained behind bars without
:05:53. > :05:57.Nick Clegg. The raising of the income tax threshold, which has
:05:58. > :06:02.helped millions of people on low and middle incomes would not have
:06:03. > :06:07.happened without Nick Clegg. I could stand here and keep listing Nick's
:06:08. > :06:12.achievements, but it would take hours. People say they want
:06:13. > :06:16.politicians to put their differences aside and to put the country first.
:06:17. > :06:22.Nick Clegg did that. Have no doubt, history will be kind to Nick and the
:06:23. > :06:26.new parliament will be immensely poorer without the insight,
:06:27. > :06:32.expertise and passion he brings, especially to the Brexit debate. We
:06:33. > :06:36.also say goodbye to Greg Mulholland, Mark Williams and Sarah Olney. Greg
:06:37. > :06:40.has been a brilliant, dedicated and determined campaigner and a loyal
:06:41. > :06:45.servant to the people of Leeds North West. Mark, a powerful voice for
:06:46. > :06:50.Wales and for rural communities everywhere. And Sarah, in her few
:06:51. > :06:55.short months in parliament, showed she had the makings of a brilliant
:06:56. > :07:00.MP. She was a brilliant MP and a real star of the party's future. Our
:07:01. > :07:07.parliament is worse off without them and I am certain that if they want
:07:08. > :07:12.to, Greg, Mark and Sarah can return to our ranks in the future. Theresa
:07:13. > :07:18.May called this election expecting it to be a coronation. She took each
:07:19. > :07:23.and every one of us for granted in the most cynical way possible. Like
:07:24. > :07:27.David Cameron before her, our Conservative Prime Minister rolled
:07:28. > :07:34.the dice and put the future of our country at risk out of sheer
:07:35. > :07:37.arrogance and vanity. And now in her diminished state she reaches out to
:07:38. > :07:42.the right to form her own coalition of chaos. Theresa May has done the
:07:43. > :07:48.opposite of what Nick Clegg did, she put her party before her country,
:07:49. > :08:00.she has been found out, she should be ashamed.
:08:01. > :08:05.APPLAUSE. We will now have a Government that is weaker and less
:08:06. > :08:12.stable at a time when we are about to embark on the most difficult and
:08:13. > :08:15.complex negotiations in our history. Theresa May promised strong and
:08:16. > :08:21.stable leadership. She has brought weakness and uncertainty. If she has
:08:22. > :08:28.an ounce of self-respect, she will resign.
:08:29. > :08:32.APPLAUSE. The Tories have taken our country
:08:33. > :08:36.for granted too many times. Whatever happens in this coming parliament,
:08:37. > :08:42.the Liberal Democrats will fight for you, for your family and for your
:08:43. > :08:45.community. If Theresa May or any other Conservative approaches the
:08:46. > :08:52.Liberal Democrats and asks for our support to deliver their agenda, let
:08:53. > :09:06.me make our position clear, no deal is better than a bad deal...
:09:07. > :09:10.APPLAUSE. There will be no deals, no coalitions, no confidence and supply
:09:11. > :09:14.arrangements, if the Government puts a Queen's Speech to parliament or a
:09:15. > :09:18.budget in front of us, we will judge it on whether or not we think it is
:09:19. > :09:24.good for the country and if it isn't, we will not support it. This
:09:25. > :09:29.parliament faces a challenge greater than any for generations, Brexit.
:09:30. > :09:33.And yet, both the Conservatives and Labour went to great lengths to make
:09:34. > :09:38.sure this election was about anything but. Their plans were paper
:09:39. > :09:42.thin. Their ambitions built on little more than platitudes. Now
:09:43. > :09:50.they must lay their cards on the table. Brexit is about to get very
:09:51. > :09:56.real. The phoney war is nearly over. Its consequences will be felt by
:09:57. > :10:01.every single person in this country. One thing that is clear from the
:10:02. > :10:08.result of the election is that the mandate Theresa May sought for her
:10:09. > :10:20.extreme version of Brexit has been rejected by the British people.
:10:21. > :10:25.APPLAUSE. It is simply inconceivable that the Prime Minister can begin
:10:26. > :10:31.the Brexit negotiations in just two weeks' time. She should consider her
:10:32. > :10:35.future and then for once she should consider the future of our country.
:10:36. > :10:39.The negotiations should be put on hold until the Government has
:10:40. > :10:44.reassessed its priorities and set them out to the British public. The
:10:45. > :10:50.British people have the right to expect that our Prime Minister will
:10:51. > :10:55.explain to them what it is that she seeks to achieve. Now my party, all
:10:56. > :10:59.of us here gathered today, have always been proudly pro-European. We
:11:00. > :11:08.believe as much today as we ever have that we are stronger, safer and
:11:09. > :11:13.more prosperous as a country... The Conservatives have lost their
:11:14. > :11:18.majority and the Prime Minister has lost all authority and credibility.
:11:19. > :11:23.In Scotland, the SNP won this election, we have more seats than
:11:24. > :11:28.all of the other parties combined. I want today to thank all those who
:11:29. > :11:35.have once again placed their trust in the SNP. We will endeavour every
:11:36. > :11:39.single day to repay that trust. As we said throughout this campaign,
:11:40. > :11:44.SNP MPs will be strong voices for Scotland, standing up for our
:11:45. > :11:49.country's interests and working to make Scotland the very best country
:11:50. > :11:53.it can be. However, it is an inescapable fact that we also
:11:54. > :11:59.suffered some bitterly disappointing losses last night. I want to pay
:12:00. > :12:04.tribute to all of the SNP candidates who campaigned so hard, but who
:12:05. > :12:12.won't be returning to Westminster. In particular, I want to pay tribute
:12:13. > :12:15.to Angus Robertson, a politician and parliamentarian of immense stature.
:12:16. > :12:20.Week after week held the Prime Minister to account, providing the
:12:21. > :12:25.scrutiny that the official opposition in the House of Commons
:12:26. > :12:30.failed to do. And, I want to also make particular mention of Alex
:12:31. > :12:36.Salmond, my friend and mentor for almost 30 years, and without a
:12:37. > :12:41.shadow of a doubt, the giant of modern Scottish politics, someone
:12:42. > :12:47.who has devoted his life to serving this country. Both Angus and Alex
:12:48. > :12:52.and all of the other defeated SNP candidates still have so much to
:12:53. > :12:58.offer to public life and I very much look forward to their continuing
:12:59. > :13:02.contributions. In 2015, the SNP achieved an exceptional, perhaps
:13:03. > :13:05.once in a century result, traditionally in Westminster
:13:06. > :13:11.elections, the SNP is squeezed by the main UK parties. Indeed in this
:13:12. > :13:14.campaign we have seen the return of a dominant two-party system in
:13:15. > :13:19.England. This makes the SNP's achievements of winning a clear
:13:20. > :13:25.majority of seats in Scotland all the more remarkable. However, as we
:13:26. > :13:30.do after all elections, we will reflect on these results, we will
:13:31. > :13:34.listen to voters and we will consider very carefully the best way
:13:35. > :13:38.forward for Scotland, a way forward that is in the interests of all of
:13:39. > :13:43.Scotland. I will take the opportunity of saying more on that
:13:44. > :13:48.front in the days to come. The SNP will also seek to play our full part
:13:49. > :13:54.in finding the right way forward for all of the UK. The SNP fought this
:13:55. > :13:57.election warning against the consequences of continued Tory
:13:58. > :14:02.Government. The Tories have given the chance will hit living
:14:03. > :14:05.standards, widen inequality and force many, many more children into
:14:06. > :14:09.poverty. We will now work with others to do everything we can to
:14:10. > :14:15.prevent that from happening and to bring an end to the austerity that
:14:16. > :14:19.voters the length of the UK are no longer prepared to accept. And we
:14:20. > :14:22.will work with others if it is at all possible to keep the Tories out
:14:23. > :14:27.of Government. We have always said that we would work in alliance with
:14:28. > :14:31.others to were moat progressive policies to build a fairer country,
:14:32. > :14:36.we stand ready to play our part in that alliance. And it is needed now
:14:37. > :14:41.more than ever. The damage the Tories have done to the stability
:14:42. > :14:47.and reputation of the UK cannot be overstated. In less than a year,
:14:48. > :14:55.they have caused chaos on an industrial scale. They wrecklessly
:14:56. > :15:00.forced through an EU referendum, they then embarked on a Brexit
:15:01. > :15:03.strategy decided to withdraw the UK from the single market with no idea
:15:04. > :15:06.or plan what would come next. They called an election knowing the
:15:07. > :15:11.result would be declared 11 days, less than two weeks before the most
:15:12. > :15:15.important negotiations in the UK's modern history were due to start.
:15:16. > :15:20.They were so arrogant they thought they could do anything and get away
:15:21. > :15:22.with it. Now they're planning to cobble together an unstable
:15:23. > :15:26.administration causing yet more damaging uncertainty.
:15:27. > :15:32.All of this because they have consistently put the interests of
:15:33. > :15:38.the Tory party ahead of the interests of the country. What is
:15:39. > :15:43.perhaps most breathtaking of all, this is a party that has the
:15:44. > :15:49.temerity to accuse others of causing division and uncertainty. It simply
:15:50. > :15:54.cannot go on. Instead there must now be an attempt to find consensus and
:15:55. > :16:00.bring people together. Last night has shown that the reckless Tory
:16:01. > :16:05.pursuit of a hard Brexit must be abandoned. The clock on the article
:16:06. > :16:09.15 negotiations is ticking and it is no longer acceptable to proceed
:16:10. > :16:13.without a coherent plan so I'm appealing to MPs of all parties to
:16:14. > :16:18.help keep the UK in the European single market to protect jobs,
:16:19. > :16:23.preserve our relationship with Europe and bring some order to these
:16:24. > :16:28.negotiations. Finally let me say this directly to the people of
:16:29. > :16:30.Scotland. In the coming weeks and months the Scottish Government will
:16:31. > :16:35.continue to provide the stable is that the government that our country
:16:36. > :16:40.needs, amongst our other priorities we will carry on with our reforms to
:16:41. > :16:44.education, support our NHS to meet the challenges of rising demand and
:16:45. > :16:49.take the next steps in building a new Social Security system with
:16:50. > :16:53.dignity at its heart. As First Minister it is my job and duty to
:16:54. > :16:58.govern in the interests of everybody in Scotland. I know that in these
:16:59. > :17:04.times that is more important than ever, and it is exactly what I and
:17:05. > :17:16.my government will work to deliver. I will now take a couple of
:17:17. > :17:22.questions. Do you accept... I said I would reflect carefully on the
:17:23. > :17:25.result and I will take... STUDIO: The First Minister of Scotland,
:17:26. > :17:31.Nicola Sturgeon, giving her response with some heavy criticism of Theresa
:17:32. > :17:36.May's conservatives and the outcome of this election which is a hung
:17:37. > :17:38.parliament and we are expecting the Prime Minister to leave Downing
:17:39. > :17:41.Street in the next few minutes to make the short journey to Buckingham
:17:42. > :17:46.Palace where she will have an audience with Her Majesty the Queen
:17:47. > :17:49.and we are expecting her to share her plans which are to continue in
:17:50. > :17:54.government as Prime Minister with the Conservatives depending on ten
:17:55. > :18:00.seats from the Democratic Unionist Party in Northern Ireland in order
:18:01. > :18:04.to control a very small majority in the House of Commons. A very sunny
:18:05. > :18:11.day at this point in Westminster. Andrew Marr, what are we thinking in
:18:12. > :18:16.terms of the sequence of event we are reporting? Just to the already
:18:17. > :18:19.one of the senior aides of the Queen is in the Cabinet Office so those
:18:20. > :18:24.conversations have started and connections are being made and when
:18:25. > :18:29.Theresa May arrives at the prize she would have a direct conversation
:18:30. > :18:33.with the Queen who will ask some direct and pertinent questions as
:18:34. > :18:41.she tends to do, it will not be a smiley and formal meeting, I would
:18:42. > :18:45.love to be a fly on the wall! There will be nobody else there because it
:18:46. > :18:54.will be just the two of them and if Mr Mae goes he will go in with the
:18:55. > :18:59.aquarists for a while -- Mr May. No doubt she will want to advise the
:19:00. > :19:04.Queen who might be coming in and the plans and all the rest as Andrew
:19:05. > :19:09.described so there is a convention and courtesy and choreography about
:19:10. > :19:13.it. But then it will be straight to work and straight into what will be
:19:14. > :19:16.pretty difficult times for Theresa May in terms of forming that
:19:17. > :19:22.government, getting the personnel correctly in place. We heard from
:19:23. > :19:26.Nicola Sturgeon, she would join any sort of alliance to keep the Tories
:19:27. > :19:32.out and obviously that is consistent with what she has said and she also
:19:33. > :19:37.said the SNP and she herself will reflect on the results and listen to
:19:38. > :19:44.voters carefully for the way forward for Scotland which is code for...
:19:45. > :19:47.Indyref2 is likely to be off. Laura Kuenssberg is in Downing Street
:19:48. > :19:53.keeping an eye on things and final preparations are being made? That is
:19:54. > :19:56.right, Theresa May's folder of documents containing her plans for
:19:57. > :20:00.keeping her government going to have been put into the Prime Minister
:20:01. > :20:06.Raqqa and her bag and things have been put in by an aide who has
:20:07. > :20:13.snaked round the corner -- the Prime Minister car. This is the first
:20:14. > :20:19.glimpse of her since her plans went so right. Is this strong and stable,
:20:20. > :20:26.Prime Minister? Theresa May accompanied by her husband, Philip,
:20:27. > :20:29.and off to the Palace. And just 12 hours ago this kind of journey she
:20:30. > :20:36.never thought she would have to make, as that exit poll came in in
:20:37. > :20:41.Tory HQ they simply did not believe it. They were scratching their heads
:20:42. > :20:47.wondering how their numbers could be so different. Over the subsequent
:20:48. > :20:53.few hours the exit polls numbers rather than the Conservatives' were
:20:54. > :20:57.the ones that came through with an accurate picture with the fact that
:20:58. > :21:01.Theresa May's political gamble has done so awry for the Conservative
:21:02. > :21:09.Party. The gates of Downing Street being closed as she goes to the
:21:10. > :21:14.palace to have discussions that really are her political nightmare
:21:15. > :21:17.rather than the dream of a first proper Conservative majority in 30
:21:18. > :21:24.years that she believed and hoped she was on the verge of achieving.
:21:25. > :21:31.Theresa May travelling along Whitehall, past the Horse Guards
:21:32. > :21:35.building at up to add multi-arch and Trafalgar Square and down to the
:21:36. > :21:40.Palace and at the other end waiting for her arrival and to do is more
:21:41. > :21:45.about what is likely to happen is our Royal correspondent, Nicolas
:21:46. > :21:49.Witchell. Yes, good afternoon, it is 11 months since Theresa May came to
:21:50. > :21:52.Buckingham Palace to be asked by the Queen to form a government which is
:21:53. > :21:58.after the resignation of David Cameron on the 13th of July 2016
:21:59. > :22:03.when Theresa May was asked by the Queen to form a government. 11
:22:04. > :22:08.months later, and certainly not in the circumstances she would have
:22:09. > :22:13.wished for or envisaged, still in a position to form a government but as
:22:14. > :22:20.we Usain, within a hung parliament. -- as we are saying. And no longer
:22:21. > :22:25.head of the largest party. The vehicle making its way down the Mall
:22:26. > :22:30.with the Metropolitan Police escorting motorcyclists and shortly
:22:31. > :22:34.she will be turning around the Victoria Memorial and into
:22:35. > :22:36.Buckingham Palace. A good number of tourists have been watching the
:22:37. > :22:41.changing of the guard ceremony which has been taking place as normal and
:22:42. > :22:46.tight security with a large number of police around as you might
:22:47. > :22:51.imagine. Theresa May, when she gets into the private audience room, and
:22:52. > :22:58.as your guests have been saying, it will be just Theresa May and the
:22:59. > :23:01.Queen in that audience. And the vital question is, are you in a
:23:02. > :23:07.position to command the confidence of the House of Commons? She is the
:23:08. > :23:10.leader of the largest party and one must assume she is now in a position
:23:11. > :23:17.to answer that question in the affirmative. The convoy just
:23:18. > :23:24.sweeping in now to the gates of Buckingham Palace with the crowds,
:23:25. > :23:27.mostly tourists, clearly recognising something rather unusual is
:23:28. > :23:33.happening, not just the changing of the guard but something of
:23:34. > :23:38.constitutional significance. Across the forecourt and in a moment the
:23:39. > :23:44.car will enter into the central quadrangle. And the critical
:23:45. > :23:48.question whether she is in a position to tell the Queen that she
:23:49. > :23:52.now believes she can command the confidence of the House of Commons.
:23:53. > :23:57.She will go up to the private audience room of the Queen where she
:23:58. > :24:02.will normally meet the Queen every Wednesday evening for the Prime
:24:03. > :24:07.Minister's audience. And again, as your guests have been saying, that
:24:08. > :24:15.is an audience only she attends. Phillip May will be taken into one
:24:16. > :24:19.of the other rooms by the private secretary of the Queen who has been
:24:20. > :24:23.seen this morning at the Cabinet Office and it is his responsible of
:24:24. > :24:28.on such occasions to coordinate closely between Buckingham Palace
:24:29. > :24:33.and Whitehall. A little unclear from the aerial shot where the car is but
:24:34. > :24:39.it will be pulling up at the King 's entrance, as it is known where I
:24:40. > :24:44.would imagine the Prime Minister will be greeted by Wing Commander
:24:45. > :24:49.Sam Fletcher, the Queen's aquarists. --
:24:50. > :25:01.Audiences vary in length anything from 20 minutes up to 40 minutes but
:25:02. > :25:09.the Queen will clearly want to know what Theresa May's plans are, to
:25:10. > :25:14.form a government. It is a reappointment, none of the kissing
:25:15. > :25:19.of hands, and there is the limousine drawn up at the King 's entrance. It
:25:20. > :25:22.looks as though the Prime Minister has already gone in and she will now
:25:23. > :25:30.be on her way up to the audience room for this audience with the
:25:31. > :25:35.Queen. She is the 13th person to hold the office of Prime Minister
:25:36. > :25:38.during this long reign of Elizabeth II. More interesting than many of
:25:39. > :25:45.those audiences but within the next few minutes the Queen will be asking
:25:46. > :25:50.that essential question, are you in a position to form a government? The
:25:51. > :25:56.answer clearly will be yes based on what we understand at the moment and
:25:57. > :26:02.then the Queen will invite Theresa May to form a government. That is
:26:03. > :26:06.all there is. There is no oath, handing over of seals, it is just a
:26:07. > :26:11.question and answer and then a request to form a government. And
:26:12. > :26:14.after further moment of conversation with the Queen during which I am
:26:15. > :26:19.sure the Queen will be asking, how can you do this and what do you view
:26:20. > :26:25.the prospect of forming a stable government as the other profoundly
:26:26. > :26:28.important issues that Theresa May will face amid greater uncertainty
:26:29. > :26:31.than she would have wished for at this point, but after that private
:26:32. > :26:37.conversation between the Queen and Theresa May, one would imagine that
:26:38. > :26:43.Philip May will be invited in for a few moments for a final conversation
:26:44. > :26:46.before the Prime Minister leaves Buckingham Palace and makes her way
:26:47. > :26:53.back to Downing Street. Thank you for now. A magnificent sight, all
:26:54. > :26:57.the greenery of Green Park and St James's Park and indeed the gardens
:26:58. > :27:03.of Buckingham Palace and the mall leading up to Admiralty Arch and
:27:04. > :27:09.Trafalgar Square and the Queen Victoria Memorial near the gate
:27:10. > :27:13.where Nick was talking to us from. With the Prime Minister already
:27:14. > :27:17.inside the palace and the audience probably already starting, Peter
:27:18. > :27:20.Hennessy, someone who has witnessed and written about a lot of these
:27:21. > :27:26.similar processes, you reckon on average about half an hour? Half an
:27:27. > :27:32.hour, 40 minutes, I have not witnessed one of these audiences, I
:27:33. > :27:37.live in hope! Of course you do! Witnessed indirectly. If it is half
:27:38. > :27:41.an hour and quite a simple matter of can you command the confidence of
:27:42. > :27:44.the Commons, to what extent will the Queen push in terms of what has
:27:45. > :27:49.happened and what is going to happen and likely to happen and what are
:27:50. > :27:52.your plans? The Queen has this mixture of curiosity and vast
:27:53. > :27:57.experience and she is also very soothing. Every prime ministers
:27:58. > :28:01.talks about how she has this soothing effect bitterly at times of
:28:02. > :28:05.trouble and I remember one of her private secretaries think she has
:28:06. > :28:10.this tonic effect. I think Mrs May might need a touch of that today! --
:28:11. > :28:18.particularly at times of trouble. The Queen has always loved political
:28:19. > :28:22.gossip, and she says things to Prime Minister is not directly but she
:28:23. > :28:28.would make guarded and therefore quite painful criticism at times so
:28:29. > :28:32.it will not be an entirely bland conversation. The euphemism will
:28:33. > :28:36.become what is going on and what is going to happen? Prime Minister,
:28:37. > :28:41.what have you done and white?! Could you explain that to me! And I
:28:42. > :28:45.presume Theresa May will add to start ringing round her Cabinet and
:28:46. > :28:50.to say to them, you have still got a job or you haven't got a job because
:28:51. > :28:54.otherwise they are going to be sitting waiting and of course they
:28:55. > :28:58.don't want any political vacuum of any kind. She needs to be able to
:28:59. > :29:07.say, have I got your confronted and support question and what has been
:29:08. > :29:11.interesting, talking about the lack of sight of the other big Tory
:29:12. > :29:15.beasts. Where are Boris Johnson and Michael Gove and Philip Hammond? If
:29:16. > :29:18.there was some kind of plot developing against her they would be
:29:19. > :29:23.out making coded statements but they are not. And if they are not going
:29:24. > :29:27.to go forward and challenge, they know that anything they say and do
:29:28. > :29:33.it will be either misconstrued or more will be read into it. We could
:29:34. > :29:35.have a brief look in a few moments from Anushka Asthana from the
:29:36. > :29:41.Guardian do is take there is a big mission at the top of the Tory body
:29:42. > :29:45.on what went wrong. The postmortem will start. Some say it is down to
:29:46. > :29:48.the manifesto and the U-turn on social care and the triple lock and
:29:49. > :29:52.others say it was about a negative campaign that we also discussed
:29:53. > :29:57.earlier. Those discussions will be going on amongst Tory MPs. I think
:29:58. > :30:00.they should add over controlling to the list. Over controlled and rather
:30:01. > :30:04.robotic. That was one of the big problems.
:30:05. > :30:11.There used to be conventional wisdom that the campaign did not make much
:30:12. > :30:16.difference. Don't believe that any more! Is John Curtice said, people
:30:17. > :30:20.have usually made their minds up about the leaders before they get
:30:21. > :30:24.into a campaign, clearly in this case that convention has not been
:30:25. > :30:30.followed. For viewers joining us wondering what is going on, because
:30:31. > :30:33.it is a hung parliament, we assume, Peter, that the Prime Minister would
:30:34. > :30:37.not be visiting the palace at this point were she not very confident of
:30:38. > :30:43.having secured some sort of understanding with the DUP? I think
:30:44. > :30:48.she would as a matter of courtesy to report to the sovereign. That is
:30:49. > :30:51.what usually happens, whatever has happened. We are pretty sure that
:30:52. > :30:55.she will not have to do what Ted Heath did, which is to say I will
:30:56. > :31:00.spend the weekend trying to do with deal with the Liberals. The Queen
:31:01. > :31:05.has a deal to be informed, to advise and worn. I have never been anywhere
:31:06. > :31:10.near all of this and there are no minutes, you see. George VI and
:31:11. > :31:14.Clement Attlee were so shy that they tended to dry up so they had cue
:31:15. > :31:21.cards, that was the only trace you ever had. The Queen, I gather, Andy
:31:22. > :31:25.was just talking about it, she asks rather good, penetrating, Socratic
:31:26. > :31:31.questions. They are not couched in why on earth did you do it that way?
:31:32. > :31:35.Not at all. I remember one of the heads of the secret agencies saying
:31:36. > :31:39.to me that when I go and see her she asks me much more penetrating
:31:40. > :31:44.questions than any of my secretaries of State ever have. Isn't that
:31:45. > :31:49.interesting? She had a reputation of getting to the point quickly. At the
:31:50. > :31:54.time of the financial crash she was overheard asking some key City
:31:55. > :32:02.people why did you not see this coming? The LSE. It was the first
:32:03. > :32:07.time the governor of the bank had had a specific audience. The
:32:08. > :32:12.curiosity was unbounded. Experience is extraordinary. You have made the
:32:13. > :32:15.point that she would go as a courtesy even if she possibly had
:32:16. > :32:20.not had a sufficient understanding with the DUP, but this opens up a
:32:21. > :32:24.new thing, Peter, Prime Minister returns to Downing Street and it
:32:25. > :32:28.would be extremely difficult Prime Minister did not say something in
:32:29. > :32:35.Downing Street when she returns. What do we then expect? What will
:32:36. > :32:38.the message then be? She has to tellers in direct terms, I have to
:32:39. > :32:42.former government, I have been talking to the DUP or whatever, I
:32:43. > :32:49.believe we can give Britain... Whether she dares to say strong and
:32:50. > :32:53.stable, who knows. Surely not?! Brexit will remain my priority and I
:32:54. > :32:58.will reshuffle my cabinet over the next day and a half. The record was
:32:59. > :33:04.Clement Attlee in 1953, they were waiting at number ten when he came
:33:05. > :33:08.back from seeing the king. We are carrying on, that is all he said.
:33:09. > :33:12.Which could be short and sweet in that sense, otherwise she will have
:33:13. > :33:16.to get into the realms of, what went wrong? If she comes onto the streets
:33:17. > :33:20.of Downing Street she will in some sense have to say in her own words
:33:21. > :33:24.what she thought went wrong and the mistake of calling a snap election,
:33:25. > :33:29.and as you say it might be better to stick very much to a well-defined
:33:30. > :33:33.script which says I am here, still Prime Minister, I have seen the
:33:34. > :33:37.Queen and I will have a Cabinet in place. Mostly if there was any
:33:38. > :33:42.choice between do I speak out on this occasion or not, Theresa May
:33:43. > :33:47.has not. Any possibility of not saying anything, she takes it. We
:33:48. > :33:53.will see what happens. If she goes for a big speech it will be the most
:33:54. > :33:59.difficult in her life so far. The little phrase, Cabinet in place, do
:34:00. > :34:03.we think, Andy, Jo, Peter, that some calls will have been made to key
:34:04. > :34:09.Cabinet figures? I would be surprised if they had not. Philip --
:34:10. > :34:11.Philip Hammond needs to know if he is remaining Chancellor of the
:34:12. > :34:17.Exchequer, Boris Johnson needs to know if he is staying on as Foreign
:34:18. > :34:20.Secretary. And David Davis in the key role of Brexit Secretary. That
:34:21. > :34:24.will have been calls and soundings done. I take the point about
:34:25. > :34:27.convention, she would have gone to the Queen, but I think if she felt
:34:28. > :34:32.it would not be held together she would not have made that trip.
:34:33. > :34:38.Simply Cabinet ministers have already had face-to-face meetings
:34:39. > :34:44.with her, probably early on -- some key Cabinet ministers. Probably
:34:45. > :34:50.through the back door. It is a remarkable example of continents on
:34:51. > :34:56.Boris' party. Almost unheard of. An amazing 24 hours. And we have not
:34:57. > :35:00.had a tweet from Donald Trump! The Royal Standard is flying, a signal
:35:01. > :35:04.that the Queen is in residence at Buckingham Palace. A very busy time
:35:05. > :35:08.for the Royal family, we look ahead to the Queen's Birthday Parade a
:35:09. > :35:12.week tomorrow and the State Opening of Parliament which takes place a
:35:13. > :35:23.couple of days later on Monday the 19th of June, and incredibly busy
:35:24. > :35:25.time. Peter, again, the state opening, this timetable to get a
:35:26. > :35:35.meaningful Queen's Speech in place with a partner in Government, a very
:35:36. > :35:45.short amount of time. Yes. I gather that it will not be a blingy state
:35:46. > :35:50.opening. Bala ceremony and pageantry than normal. Which is a pity,
:35:51. > :35:56.because I like flaunting. But it will be dressed down in the informal
:35:57. > :36:03.sense of the word. He does that when he boats in the chamber! I am too
:36:04. > :36:08.humble. A surprisingly short speech, we would assume. There is not an
:36:09. > :36:12.awful lot she can say at this stage if she goes into agreement with the
:36:13. > :36:16.DUP. There will be talk of foreign affairs and getting on with Brexit
:36:17. > :36:18.but I don't think there will be much legislation and relatively few
:36:19. > :36:23.promises. How long do you think it has gone on
:36:24. > :36:27.already? Let's bring Royal correspondent Nicholas Witchell
:36:28. > :36:34.back-in. I was slightly distracted, how long do you think we have had on
:36:35. > :36:39.this audience? I make it about 12 minutes. She went in, we did not see
:36:40. > :36:44.her step across the threshold but it was at about 12:25pm, we are about
:36:45. > :36:47.12 minutes into the audience of indeterminate length, but as you
:36:48. > :36:53.have said I would imagine it might be around half an hour. Serious
:36:54. > :36:58.business to be discussed. As we have said, soothing though the occasion
:36:59. > :37:02.may be for a Prime Minister on what on this particular occasion, for
:37:03. > :37:06.this particular Prime Minister must be an extremely difficult day, she
:37:07. > :37:10.still has to answer those very pointed and pithy questions which
:37:11. > :37:15.the Queen is certainly very capable of directing at her prime ministers
:37:16. > :37:18.and others, and I am quite sure that in a sense it will perhaps be the
:37:19. > :37:24.first occasion when Theresa May is able to explore with someone outside
:37:25. > :37:28.her immediate circle, well, what did come from your point of view, go
:37:29. > :37:32.wrong? What do you think has happened and what would you do now?
:37:33. > :37:36.How will you deal with the considerable challenges, most
:37:37. > :37:39.particularly Brexit? The Queen, as she always is, will be closely
:37:40. > :37:45.interested in those answers because she maintains a close interest, a
:37:46. > :37:53.nonexecutive head of state she may be but she has this vast experience
:37:54. > :37:57.stretching back now for these 63, 64 years across the 12 other prime
:37:58. > :38:04.ministers with whom she has dealt. So she will perhaps be able to offer
:38:05. > :38:06.that little bit of calming to a Prime Minister facing very
:38:07. > :38:12.considerable challenges within her own party, her own parliament and
:38:13. > :38:16.within Europe, dealing with Brexit. For the Queen, of course, there is
:38:17. > :38:21.the business of state to be handled today. She will be going to Windsor
:38:22. > :38:28.and there is one other event that will be in her horizon, that is
:38:29. > :38:32.tomorrow, the 96th birthday of her husband, the Duke of Edinburgh. They
:38:33. > :38:37.will celebrate that family event at Windsor. But that is the apparatus
:38:38. > :38:41.of ceremonial London and the significant events, Trooping the
:38:42. > :38:45.Colour, the Queen's Birthday Parade taking place a week tomorrow,
:38:46. > :38:49.followed two days later by the State Opening of Parliament which, as you
:38:50. > :38:54.have said, will be non-ceremonial, not least because after Trooping the
:38:55. > :38:59.Colour on Saturday the 17th it has been concluded that the Footguards,
:39:00. > :39:03.Horse Guards and the rest will not have the opportunity to rehearse for
:39:04. > :39:06.the State opening enough, that is one of the particular reasons why on
:39:07. > :39:11.this occasion it is being done in this non-ceremonial way. So there we
:39:12. > :39:15.can see this aerial shot of Buckingham Palace and we can see
:39:16. > :39:21.that the crowds have certainly thinned from the front of the Paras,
:39:22. > :39:25.-- Palace, there are considerable crowds here at this time every year
:39:26. > :39:30.when they watch the changing of the guard. They have largely dispersed
:39:31. > :39:34.but there are some left, particularly clustered around the
:39:35. > :39:41.North Centre gate which is the way in which visitors generally low in
:39:42. > :39:47.across the forecourt and in. What are we, I would say we are about 15
:39:48. > :39:51.minutes into this audience so far. Perhaps another, who knows, 50
:39:52. > :39:56.minutes ago. Thank you, Nick Witchell. Let's go back to Downing
:39:57. > :40:01.Street if I can, I think they are preparing for a prime ministerial
:40:02. > :40:08.statement. The lectern, the podium is in place in its usual place
:40:09. > :40:12.outside the door of number ten. At least, Jo, we know there will be a
:40:13. > :40:16.statement is expected? We have talked about that. Just think back
:40:17. > :40:21.if you weeks ago, the last time we saw a Lachie Turner unexpectedly, I
:40:22. > :40:24.suppose we expected this time, which appeared outside number ten was, of
:40:25. > :40:29.course, when Theresa May announced the snap election night she said she
:40:30. > :40:34.would never call -- the last time we saw a lectern. I will not call a
:40:35. > :40:38.snap election is what she said. I cannot tell you the rush and the
:40:39. > :40:41.fury around newsrooms when we saw that lectern going up outside number
:40:42. > :40:46.ten. If I remember rightly it was not a prime ministerial one at that
:40:47. > :40:50.stage, it was the party, that is what led to was thinking it would be
:40:51. > :40:57.a call for a snap election. Let's stay on this. My next contribution
:40:58. > :41:01.is rather relevant as we look at the door of number ten. George Osborne,
:41:02. > :41:04.who is editor of the London Evening Standard, has written this in his
:41:05. > :41:09.editorial today talking about this notion of confidence and supply,
:41:10. > :41:13.that is the technical term for the Democratic Unionist supporting the
:41:14. > :41:17.Conservatives. He says the confidence in her leadership is
:41:18. > :41:21.precisely what the British people failed to give her, and supply will
:41:22. > :41:25.mean London taxpayers sending yet more money to Northern Ireland. In
:41:26. > :41:31.this topsy-turvy world, decisions that affect London will be taking in
:41:32. > :41:34.Belfast. He is not pulling any punches, Andy? He is having a lovely
:41:35. > :41:38.time. He is editor of Evening Standard but I think he has been
:41:39. > :41:42.caught slightly by surprise by the events of the last few weeks and
:41:43. > :41:46.months. Had he stayed in the House of Commons, we would be talking
:41:47. > :41:50.about him as a future Conservative leader. He got out, he is in the
:41:51. > :41:54.wrong place just as Ruth Davidson was in the wrong place at the rump
:41:55. > :41:59.Parliament if she wants to lead the Conservative Party in the UK. -- the
:42:00. > :42:04.wrong place in the wrong parliament. David Miliband in the wrong
:42:05. > :42:08.continent. If you look further down in the editorial George Osborne says
:42:09. > :42:11.it is not a sustainable position and the paper were subjected to close
:42:12. > :42:16.scrutiny. The other people who will be scrutinised will be the DDP.
:42:17. > :42:19.Peter, you will know that in this minority governments the people who
:42:20. > :42:23.seem to be propping up a government commenting enormous scrutiny
:42:24. > :42:29.themselves, as do their policies. -- the other people who will be
:42:30. > :42:33.scrutinised will be the DUP. The last seats, the Huffington Post say
:42:34. > :42:37.that the early tip about Labour taking Kensington is correct. Labour
:42:38. > :42:49.was ahead by more than 20 boats on the secondary cap. That is a real
:42:50. > :42:55.turn up. Kensington goes Labour! They will be quite rightly hailing
:42:56. > :43:00.that is a big victory. -- is a big victory. It has not been confirmed,
:43:01. > :43:06.but if that is the case they will claim that is a big victory. Let's
:43:07. > :43:09.go to Laura in Downing Street. Some thoughts on what the Prime Minister
:43:10. > :43:15.will need to do in the statement she will deliver within the next 15
:43:16. > :43:18.minutes or so. I think she has to strike a very different tone and
:43:19. > :43:23.close to when we saw a glimpse of her at her Maidenhead counter in the
:43:24. > :43:28.early hours of the morning. At that stage she looked visibly shocked and
:43:29. > :43:33.hurting from the results. The expectation the Tories had being
:43:34. > :43:36.turned on their head. If this is to work and if she is to be able to
:43:37. > :43:43.stay for a dignified period of time she needs to walk back in and look
:43:44. > :43:47.like she is in charge of the moment. She is not in charge of a majority
:43:48. > :43:51.but she needs to come back and look like the Prime Minister that she has
:43:52. > :43:56.just told the Queen she hopes to be in terms of forming a government. It
:43:57. > :44:01.is not that long ago since we had the formal coalition in 2010. Even
:44:02. > :44:06.at that stage, even though David Cameron never had a majority and he
:44:07. > :44:10.had to rely hugely on the Liberal Democrats, his supporters at the
:44:11. > :44:14.time would say he looked the part, he always looked confident and made
:44:15. > :44:18.what he described at the time is an open and expansive offer to the
:44:19. > :44:25.Liberal Democrats, and with confidence strode into a very
:44:26. > :44:29.different era of politics. Theresa May has to, to reassure her own
:44:30. > :44:33.party and stop the sniping about this terrible results, she has to
:44:34. > :44:37.come back and look like she is in charge. Given the personal defeat
:44:38. > :44:41.that this is for her, although she of course is still the leader of the
:44:42. > :44:50.largest party, that is quite some task.
:44:51. > :44:53.Let's bring in Andrew Neil at Westminster, your thoughts, Andrew?
:44:54. > :44:57.I think the big unknown is that we do not know the nature of the deal
:44:58. > :45:01.that the Prime Minister has done with the DUP. We know it is not a
:45:02. > :45:05.formal coalition of the sort that Mr Cameron had with Mr Clegg and the
:45:06. > :45:09.Lib Dems, but we know some kind of deal has been done. We do not know
:45:10. > :45:14.what she has given away, what she has agreed to in order to get the
:45:15. > :45:20.support of the ten DUP members and give her and all but working
:45:21. > :45:24.majority. Nor do we know, the atmospherics, it is not just the
:45:25. > :45:28.arithmetic, but Mrs May will seem not just to the country but the
:45:29. > :45:32.Conservative Party a diminished figure in British politics. Maybe
:45:33. > :45:36.even the walking wounded by some. Several Conservatives have said to
:45:37. > :45:41.me this morning in the course of the broadcast that they do not see her
:45:42. > :45:45.running another election campaign, that they will not let her run
:45:46. > :45:49.another election campaign after what has happened. So as they scrabble to
:45:50. > :45:54.put together a minority government or a government that can survive a
:45:55. > :45:55.hung parliament for a while, the future is still very uncertain for
:45:56. > :46:07.this Conservative government. Nicholas Witchel is still with us, I
:46:08. > :46:13.am wondering, I am seeing some staff in the courtyard, I'm wondering if
:46:14. > :46:21.we might be getting to the point where Mrs made's departure could be
:46:22. > :46:25.imminent. -- Mrs May. I would think not for the next few minutes, this
:46:26. > :46:33.is one of the Escort vehicles but to the left you can see one of the
:46:34. > :46:39.footmen who is looking out of the victor. The Prime Minister's car to
:46:40. > :46:44.the left. They are standing there ready to open the door when she does
:46:45. > :46:48.come out. We have been trying to see whether the motorcyclists who are in
:46:49. > :46:56.the outer forecourt, they don't seem to be starting up yet. We are about
:46:57. > :47:08.22 minutes in... There is Wing Commander Sam Fletcher, the
:47:09. > :47:11.equerries. And there we are. And as you said, the Prime Minister
:47:12. > :47:18.emerging after an audience of 20 minutes or so with the time almost
:47:19. > :47:21.ten to one this Friday after the general election and Theresa May has
:47:22. > :47:28.been to have an audience with Her Majesty the Queen as she faces a
:47:29. > :47:32.hung parliament and intends to carry on as the primaries that at the head
:47:33. > :47:38.of the Conservative administration with the head of support on a vote
:47:39. > :47:41.to vote bases, not any formal grounds of the DUP in Northern
:47:42. > :47:45.Ireland. But we have no idea what kind of deal has been struck and
:47:46. > :47:50.what assurances have been given and no idea of the basis on which any
:47:51. > :47:55.agreement has been reached. Maybe the pie Minister will shed some
:47:56. > :48:02.light on that when she gets back -- Prime Minister. She will soon be
:48:03. > :48:09.delivering a message which is meant to convince and reassure people. She
:48:10. > :48:16.will. And as Laura was saying, it is all about demeanour, the way she
:48:17. > :48:20.presents herself. If she wants to carry on as Prime Minister, she
:48:21. > :48:25.needs to look and sound like one and put to one side or the self doubt
:48:26. > :48:29.and shock of the night and come out fighting and it will be interesting
:48:30. > :48:35.to see if she can deliver that kind of speech. She is a much less
:48:36. > :48:43.practice figure in that sense than David Cameron or Tony Blair so can
:48:44. > :48:49.she raised her game rhetorically and in terms of demeanour? She is not
:48:50. > :48:52.known for being agile from her performances at PMQs and some may
:48:53. > :48:57.argue the fact that she did not take part in the TV debates, that another
:48:58. > :49:01.example of her perhaps showing away from having to think on her feet in
:49:02. > :49:07.that way and you said earlier, Peter, that she likes to be in the
:49:08. > :49:10.arena of being prepared. She will have had some time to think about
:49:11. > :49:19.this, particularly if it is relatively short. She is speaking to
:49:20. > :49:24.the markets, to the Tory body, swing voters, MPs. An authority will count
:49:25. > :49:31.a lot here. And in human terms sheet must be worn out -- she must be one
:49:32. > :49:36.out. It is bad enough if things go well but after these shocks, in
:49:37. > :49:43.human terms you can only sympathise. We were talking about Kensington,
:49:44. > :49:51.three words we would not associate, Labour gain Kensington. That has
:49:52. > :49:54.been confirmed. The car passing through Admiralty Arch into
:49:55. > :50:03.Trafalgar Square and turning into Whitehall. And going past a lot of
:50:04. > :50:12.the big government offices including Adrien Admiralty House on the right.
:50:13. > :50:16.We mentioned that earlier with the security crisis in the 90s. And I'm
:50:17. > :50:25.bound to say it past the Wales Office! The Ministry of Defence on
:50:26. > :50:31.the left. Thank you, can we stop this now! And soon turning right...
:50:32. > :50:36.The red Lion pub! I knew you would mention that! And turning into
:50:37. > :50:39.Downing Street and we will see the Prime Minister emerging from the car
:50:40. > :50:43.and making that statement straightway before going back into
:50:44. > :50:49.Downing Street to maybe complete the calls about the formation the new
:50:50. > :50:53.government. Laura Coombs but it in Downing
:50:54. > :51:01.-- Laura Kuenssberg. She is arriving now, we expect that she will confirm
:51:02. > :51:06.that she will stay on as Prime Minister with some form of
:51:07. > :51:13.arrangement with the DUP, not the scenario she had dreams of or that
:51:14. > :51:20.she hoped for. She exits the car with her husband, who is putting a
:51:21. > :51:27.rather grim face on it and she gets out to walk up to the podium. Only
:51:28. > :51:31.seven weeks since she stood at that podium and announced the snap
:51:32. > :51:35.election which she had said would not happen, the election that she
:51:36. > :51:38.changed her mind about. And how any human being in her vision must
:51:39. > :51:52.regret that decision. Here she is. I have just been to see Her Majesty
:51:53. > :51:57.the Queen. And I will now form a government, a government that can
:51:58. > :52:02.provide certainty and lead Britain forward at this critical time for
:52:03. > :52:05.our country. This government will guide the country through the
:52:06. > :52:12.crucial Brexit talks that begin in just ten days and deliver on the
:52:13. > :52:16.will of the British people by taking the United Kingdom out of the
:52:17. > :52:23.European Union. It will work to keep our nation safe and secure by
:52:24. > :52:26.delivering the change that I set out following the appalling attacks in
:52:27. > :52:32.Manchester and London. Cracking down on the ideology of Islamist
:52:33. > :52:37.extremism and all those who support it and giving the police and the
:52:38. > :52:43.authorities the powers they need to keep our country safe. The
:52:44. > :52:49.government I lead will put fairness and opportunity at the heart of
:52:50. > :52:54.everything we do. So that we will fulfil the promise of Brexit
:52:55. > :53:00.together and, over the next five years, filled a country in which no
:53:01. > :53:06.one and no community is left behind -- build a country. A country in
:53:07. > :53:11.which prosperity and opportunity are shared right across this United
:53:12. > :53:17.Kingdom. What the country needs more than ever is certainty and having
:53:18. > :53:20.secured the largest number of votes and the greatest number of seats in
:53:21. > :53:27.the general election it is clear that only the Conservative and
:53:28. > :53:30.Unionist Party has the legitimacy and ability to provide that
:53:31. > :53:38.certainty by commanding majority the House of Commons. As we do, we will
:53:39. > :53:41.continue to work with our friends and allies in the Democratic
:53:42. > :53:46.Unionist Party in particular will stop our two parties have enjoyed a
:53:47. > :53:51.strong relationship over many years and this gives me the confidence to
:53:52. > :53:55.believe that we will be able to work together in the interests of the
:53:56. > :54:02.whole United Kingdom. This will allow us to come together as a
:54:03. > :54:05.country and channel our energies towards a successful Brexit deal
:54:06. > :54:10.that works for everybody in the country, securing a new partnership
:54:11. > :54:14.with the EU which guarantees our long-term prosperity. That is what
:54:15. > :54:25.people voted for last June, that is what we will deliver, now let's get
:54:26. > :54:30.to work. The Prime Minister making a brief statement on the threshold of
:54:31. > :54:37.Downing Street and really, Andrew Marr, I'm trying to make out that it
:54:38. > :54:40.is business as usual. I thought the most important thing she said is
:54:41. > :54:44.that she would carry on the Brexit negotiations as planned on the
:54:45. > :54:50.timetable, having heard these voices from the continent saying to delay
:54:51. > :54:55.things but she is saying no, we are going ahead on the original
:54:56. > :54:58.timetable which strongly suggests that David Davies remained as Brexit
:54:59. > :55:02.secretary and the plans remain as they were. The rest of it is
:55:03. > :55:07.repeating of campaign slogans, unspecific, but the reference to the
:55:08. > :55:12.Conservative and Unionist Party which they don't often say. That was
:55:13. > :55:16.a very pointed reference because it is a commission of the situation she
:55:17. > :55:19.is in and she said it in a way that I thought she was dragged to say to
:55:20. > :55:26.everybody, and that is a natural thing, a natural fit -- she was
:55:27. > :55:30.trying to say. A natural fit to have the Conservatives and the DUP
:55:31. > :55:36.together in these negotiations and the government. And not even the
:55:37. > :55:41.most glancing reference to what happened in the campaign. If you
:55:42. > :55:44.keep it short and to the point, you just look ahead. She must have said
:55:45. > :55:52.certainty at least half a dozen times. Not even glancing reference
:55:53. > :55:56.to performance. No, it has played to her strengths and that is hers, she
:55:57. > :56:00.always says that she gets on with what is put in front of let's get to
:56:01. > :56:07.work, that will be her new trademark. It was brave and quite
:56:08. > :56:11.impressive. Fairness and opportunity, echoes of course of the
:56:12. > :56:16.first speech that she made at the time. People will make of that what
:56:17. > :56:19.they will, fairness and opportunity for the whole divinity, working for
:56:20. > :56:26.everyone, all those statement she made when she stood there -- for the
:56:27. > :56:33.whole community. Laura is there for us. A pretty grim faced Theresa May
:56:34. > :56:38.but emphasising that word she used throughout the campaign, certainty.
:56:39. > :56:43.Not giving any more details of how she would work with the DUP, she
:56:44. > :56:46.said they will continue to work with friends and allies, suggesting as we
:56:47. > :56:50.expected that the arrangement between them will be very loose,
:56:51. > :56:56.nothing formal at all. One wonders therefore in the rough-and-tumble of
:56:57. > :56:59.the next few months, perhaps the next few weeks, how the bonds
:57:00. > :57:05.between those parties might be tested. I think in terms of getting
:57:06. > :57:10.back her composure, certainly it was a very different Theresa May to the
:57:11. > :57:15.one we saw standing at her count in Maidenhead when she looked almost
:57:16. > :57:19.broken by the result is the picture was emerging overnight. No question,
:57:20. > :57:24.she might have walked back in as Prime Minister but she walks back
:57:25. > :57:27.into number ten are diminished figure, a politically damaged
:57:28. > :57:33.figure, still Prime Minister but for quite how long? And given that we
:57:34. > :57:37.are talking about her status and position as Prime Minister, a
:57:38. > :57:40.thought on the event this afternoon and how soon you think we will be in
:57:41. > :57:46.a position to hear her confirming who is in and out the Cabinet? I
:57:47. > :57:53.think that any plans she might have had for our bold reshuffle, moving
:57:54. > :57:57.her neighbour out of number 11 or making big switches around in the
:57:58. > :58:03.top team, I would expect, and I'm speculating, that she would be
:58:04. > :58:07.encouraged against making any big changes. Her diminished stature of
:58:08. > :58:12.course gives more power to the rest of the people around the Cabinet
:58:13. > :58:18.table. She needs their backing, it has been conspicuous, really
:58:19. > :58:22.conspicuous this morning, that whether by accident or design and I
:58:23. > :58:27.suspect design while the situation with fluid, we have not seen the cam
:58:28. > :58:33.and administers coming to her defence publicly, silence instead --
:58:34. > :58:38.the Cabinet ministers. They have not put a ring of steel around Theresa
:58:39. > :58:46.May and I expect she will certainly be called on to change her style and
:58:47. > :58:49.expand her circle, to rely on more people also I think that will have
:58:50. > :58:54.an impact on the scale of her reshuffle. We might well find that
:58:55. > :59:00.all she does is replace those who have lost their jobs with people
:59:01. > :59:05.further down the ranks. Don't forget overnight she lost eight ministers,
:59:06. > :59:07.only one Cabinet minister, Ben Gummer, and what a metaphor, the
:59:08. > :59:14.minister in charge of coordinating the manifesto, the manifesto that
:59:15. > :59:20.for many people appears to have been such a part of the root of all of
:59:21. > :59:23.the Tories' disaster overnight. Quite a strange situation, the
:59:24. > :59:27.leader of the biggest party, with the biggest share of the votes but
:59:28. > :59:32.so diminished by the decision of the British people who did not like what
:59:33. > :59:36.they saw. And finally, we are looking at a House of Commons that
:59:37. > :59:40.will look very different with a different character, what are your
:59:41. > :59:45.thoughts on how it will conduct itself in the weeks and months to
:59:46. > :59:50.come? It will be fascinating to see, how will Jeremy Corbyn responds to
:59:51. > :59:55.his new-found strength? Will he reached out to his prominent
:59:56. > :59:59.critics, many of whom have real experience in the front bench? Will
:00:00. > :00:03.he strengthen in that way? How will the SNB behave without their
:00:04. > :00:10.dominant leader in Westminster, Angus Robertson, one of the biggest
:00:11. > :00:14.scalps -- the SNP. We are in for all sorts of interesting elements as the
:00:15. > :00:18.political Rubiks cube turns around with new faces and patterns emerging
:00:19. > :00:23.but one thing I would say is that it will not be straightforward.
:00:24. > :00:30.Thank you, Laura. The one o'clock News, by the way, follows very
:00:31. > :00:34.shortly with Sophie Raworth, we just added a few more minutes for us to
:00:35. > :00:37.really undermine the magnitude of what has happened overnight, and
:00:38. > :00:42.that's being underlined by some of the responses from conservatives.
:00:43. > :00:46.Despite the fact that Theresa May says the largest party of the
:00:47. > :00:50.largest number of votes, we have Tories like Heidi Allen, we as
:00:51. > :00:54.Conservatives will learn from this, we will listen, collaborate more and
:00:55. > :00:58.demonstrate greater vision and compassion for all. We had to
:00:59. > :01:04.change. With the emphasis on the have. It is not lost on anyone that
:01:05. > :01:08.Heidi Allen has opposed her own Government in the past as a
:01:09. > :01:12.backbench MP on some of the measures that she felt were too harsh, this
:01:13. > :01:17.is the type of pressure that will come to bear. In the weeks to come
:01:18. > :01:22.and when legislation is put before the house. That is just one, we have
:01:23. > :01:26.heard from Sarah Wolviston already. These people will not remain quiet.
:01:27. > :01:31.Low blow both of the main parties badly shaken or changed in many
:01:32. > :01:36.ways, I am stripping compared with Peter but I have followed the House
:01:37. > :01:40.of Commons since 1984 and I think it will be the most interesting
:01:41. > :01:44.parliament of my political lifetime -- I am a stripling compared to
:01:45. > :01:48.Peter. She was timed in modest to say so but we had to pay more
:01:49. > :01:55.attention to Laura Kuenssberg! I think that is good advice. Peter,
:01:56. > :02:02.your thoughts after the last 15 hours? One of the greatest upsets
:02:03. > :02:07.since the Second World War which will be scarred and seared in the
:02:08. > :02:11.memories of the country forever because of the atrocities at
:02:12. > :02:16.Manchester and London Bridge. Andreu, Jo and Peter, I want to
:02:17. > :02:20.thank you. I am bound to thank Emily and her team. Thank you to John
:02:21. > :02:25.Curtice, Jeremy Vine and their teams as well. It is not just those in the
:02:26. > :02:31.studio, an army outside the studio performs all sorts of vital tasks.
:02:32. > :02:39.Without that, we would not be on air. It is not just in the BBC
:02:40. > :02:44.Election Centre, it is all of us, thank you very much. It has been a
:02:45. > :02:48.remarkable 15 hours and I don't think anyone expected to be in this
:02:49. > :02:53.position, least of all Theresa May, who went into at the majority and
:02:54. > :02:57.has come with no majority, a hung parliament, she will have to depend
:02:58. > :03:02.on an informal deal. Stumbling along, as her opponents would say,
:03:03. > :03:07.with the Democratic Unionists. A hung parliament with many questions
:03:08. > :03:14.to be answered. Coverage continues on the BBC News Channel, the BBC
:03:15. > :03:17.News at one is coming up, but I will leave you with some of the enduring
:03:18. > :03:19.words and images of the last 15 hours.
:03:20. > :03:23.It is the third time in just over two McCready is that we have come to
:03:24. > :03:30.discover the result of the major UK wide poll. -- in just over two
:03:31. > :03:35.years. Will the Conservatives get the seats they need to win outright
:03:36. > :03:41.or will Labour close the gap? Never before have we gone into an election
:03:42. > :03:44.with such diverse prediction. By the magic of psephology we can predict
:03:45. > :03:50.what we think has happened tonight. And what we are saying is that the
:03:51. > :03:54.Conservatives are the largest party. They don't have an overall majority
:03:55. > :03:59.at this stage. The Conservative Party have lost their overall
:04:00. > :04:03.majority and will be short by 12 votes, 12 MP short. If these numbers
:04:04. > :04:07.are correct than Theresa May has played a high risk political gain
:04:08. > :04:12.and it appears she may have lost a gamble. The reaction from senior
:04:13. > :04:15.Conservatives, I have talked to a few, is they flatly do not believe
:04:16. > :04:18.it. It will give enormous power to
:04:19. > :04:23.Jeremy Corbyn, not just in parliament but within his party.
:04:24. > :04:30.The pound is down around 2% already against the dollar, it is down
:04:31. > :04:37.against the euro. Boy, old boy, oh boy, will we be hung, drawn and
:04:38. > :04:47.quartered if this is wrong?! Chi Onwurah, Labour Party, 24000 and 71.
:04:48. > :04:51.It is the first sign of the night that maybe the country will drift
:04:52. > :04:54.from the Conservatives to the Labour Party. I don't know what has
:04:55. > :04:58.happened to Sunderland, they were beavering away but nothing seems to
:04:59. > :05:03.have happened. All those white grubs that running around. Julie Elliott
:05:04. > :05:06.has been elected to serve as member for the said constituency.
:05:07. > :05:11.Immediately better for the Conservatives than the exit poll
:05:12. > :05:26.suggested, worse for labour than the exit polls suggested. We are getting
:05:27. > :05:29.really conflicting signals. Help me with the technology for a moment, it
:05:30. > :05:31.does not matter if we see you! Gobbler we will need anywhere to the
:05:32. > :05:34.caveat soon. The SNP are on 34 seats, they would lose 12. A real
:05:35. > :05:36.triumph the Ruth Davidson. It is much less likely we will see another
:05:37. > :05:39.Scottish independence referendum any time soon. No election is complete
:05:40. > :05:50.without the swingometer, where is it?!
:05:51. > :05:55.Nick Clegg, Liberal Democrats, 19700 and 56. In politics, you live by the
:05:56. > :06:00.sword and you die by the sword. The electorate gives with one hand and
:06:01. > :06:05.takes away with the other. Will you come back into active politics? I
:06:06. > :06:09.would have absolutely no choice but to do exactly that.
:06:10. > :06:16.I am standing down today as the leader of UKIP with immediate
:06:17. > :06:19.effect. Extraordinary, Labour has done serious damage to Conservative
:06:20. > :06:23.seats in England. The worst possible outcome would be a hung parliament.
:06:24. > :06:29.I would have thought that is enough to go, actually. Contrast that with
:06:30. > :06:34.the face of Theresa May, the look of a woman defeated, heavily made up as
:06:35. > :06:38.if she had been in tears earlier. At this time, more than anything else,
:06:39. > :06:45.this country needs a period of stability. Are you still a moron?
:06:46. > :06:49.Jeremy has performed better than anybody, probably even Jeremy,
:06:50. > :06:53.expected he would, and Theresa May has performed infinitely worse. She
:06:54. > :06:58.has to content with the absolute horror of her party. She has to
:06:59. > :07:04.consider her position. We have tried to get Boris Johnson to talk to us,
:07:05. > :07:12.no. David Davis, no. Philip Hammond to talk to us, went to his count,
:07:13. > :07:23.no. Senior figures in the Tory party, keeping Stumpf.
:07:24. > :07:27.It looks as though our forecast will prove remarkably accurate. Maybe in
:07:28. > :07:33.the end the most accurate exit poll yet. It is a hung parliament, that
:07:34. > :07:37.is the story. Nobody has won, who is best to form
:07:38. > :07:42.a stable government in the interest of the people? We believe the Labour
:07:43. > :07:46.Party. Theresa May has no intention whatsoever of resigning, she will be
:07:47. > :07:50.than a couple of hours to go to Buckingham Palace to seek permission
:07:51. > :07:54.from the Queen to form a government, and the way we understand she will
:07:55. > :08:03.do that is with assurances from the Ulster Unionists that they will see
:08:04. > :08:05.her through in Parliament. Not a formal coalition but an
:08:06. > :08:06.informal understanding between the Conservatives and the Democratic
:08:07. > :08:10.Unionist Party. I hope that the result of the
:08:11. > :08:14.election will have no major impact on the negotiations we are
:08:15. > :08:17.desperately waiting for. The government IVF will put -- the
:08:18. > :08:22.government I read will put fairness and opportunity at the heart of
:08:23. > :08:27.everything we do so that we will fulfil the promise of Brexit
:08:28. > :08:30.together, and over the next five years, build a country in which no
:08:31. > :08:38.one and no community is left behind. I've had enough...
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:08:45. > :08:53.get the facts straight. Search online,
:08:54. > :08:57.for BBC Reality Check.