:00:00. > :00:15.Their share of the vote was down, reflecting the swing
:00:16. > :00:24.Coming up in Election 2017 in the North West:
:00:25. > :00:26.Labour cheers as Bury, High Peak, Crewe, Warrington and Weaver Vale
:00:27. > :00:32.I've been in this hall a bit too often on the wrong
:00:33. > :00:38.Tory tears as they loses four seats to Labour
:00:39. > :00:45.And last man standing - the Lib Dem leader clings
:00:46. > :00:50.on in Cumbria, but loses his last local colleague.
:00:51. > :00:52.And still standing after a long night, or joining me
:00:53. > :00:54.on the sofa at least, are two local politicians heading
:00:55. > :00:59.Lucy Powell successfully defended her Manchester Central seat,
:01:00. > :01:01.and Nigel Evans will be extending his 25-year stint
:01:02. > :01:08.Also with us is Jon Tonge, Professor of Politics
:01:09. > :01:22.we will start with you, Lucy. Are you surprised?
:01:23. > :01:26.Yes, I am actually, and I think everybody is. I am pleased and
:01:27. > :01:30.delighted to be surprised, because not what we were expecting. But also
:01:31. > :01:35.the doorstep experience was different to the result in the end,
:01:36. > :01:39.and perhaps that's because, and I was thinking through the night,
:01:40. > :01:43.because on the doorstep we generally speak to slightly older voters.
:01:44. > :01:46.OK. So you maybe get a wrong impression,
:01:47. > :01:49.but the doorstep actually felt quite difficult most of the way to the
:01:50. > :01:55.campaign and got easier as the campaign went on, but on the day as
:01:56. > :02:00.well we were in Bury South and it felt difficult by the end.
:02:01. > :02:03.Completely different. Nigel, you must have been thinking
:02:04. > :02:09.through the night as well. Did you see this coming at all?
:02:10. > :02:11.No, not at all. Into the whys and wherefores
:02:12. > :02:17.later... In the end, right to have a bit of
:02:18. > :02:23.wheel rim... And we were knocking on doors talking to more older people
:02:24. > :02:34.and Echo seats, targeted for us, we would win, but 1000, maybe by 1000,
:02:35. > :02:37.but it wasn't to be in the end. And we helped Lucy considerably by the
:02:38. > :02:38.launch of what was known as our own torpedo, which would put upon
:02:39. > :02:45.ourselves. We will get into the talk.
:02:46. > :02:50.The Conservative manifesto. And you, an expert.
:02:51. > :02:53.One of the experts saw it coming. They thought Conservatives would
:02:54. > :03:00.have a majority between 35 and 45, so I was as stunned as everyone by
:03:01. > :03:03.the exit poll. Messages on Wednesday night saying Labour had given up on
:03:04. > :03:06.places like Bury South, on the assumption was it would be a
:03:07. > :03:10.disaster. Could not have been more wrong. A disaster for political
:03:11. > :03:11.science as well as for the Conservatives.
:03:12. > :03:14.Let's take a look at the overall picture here in the north-west:
:03:15. > :03:17.So, Labour made gains in Bury North, Crewe, High Peak, Weaver Vale
:03:18. > :03:19.and Warrington South to move from 49 to 54 seats.
:03:20. > :03:21.So, five Conservative losses but they gained Southport
:03:22. > :03:25.from the Liberal Democrats and now have 17.
:03:26. > :03:29.That means the Liberal Democrats now have just one -
:03:30. > :03:33.their leader Tim Farron just keeping hold of Westmorland and Lonsdale.
:03:34. > :03:36.Here's how the map of the north-west's 72
:03:37. > :03:44.Look closely and you'll see more red,
:03:45. > :03:46.particularly to the south, around Cheshire,
:03:47. > :03:54.Well, I was in Bury, where the Conservative David Nuttall
:03:55. > :03:59.lost his seat and Labour's Ivan Lewis held on to his.
:04:00. > :04:06.Let's see how events unfolded there and across the region.
:04:07. > :04:08.One of the new faces that will be representing
:04:09. > :04:15.James Frith was chasing a majority of less than 400 -
:04:16. > :04:18.now he has his own of more than ten times that amount, leaving two
:04:19. > :04:25.It feels amazing, but actually quite seriously amazing.
:04:26. > :04:30.Look, we never expected to be here three months ago.
:04:31. > :04:34.I'm absolutely delighted that we got an opportunity to take our offer
:04:35. > :04:41.Well, tables being taken down in Bury, where it's fair to say both
:04:42. > :04:44.seats can be seen as a surprise, and a microcosm of the wider
:04:45. > :04:49.Bury North the Conservatives were expecting to keep,
:04:50. > :04:52.to make gains, and in Bury South the Labour Party were worried
:04:53. > :05:01.Perhaps Labour's most surprising results came in Cheshire.
:05:02. > :05:04.Warrington South, a Government minister scuppered.
:05:05. > :05:08.It's hello, Faizal Rashid, and goodbye, David Mowatt.
:05:09. > :05:12.We were hoping to win nationally, and obviously I was hoping
:05:13. > :05:15.to win here in Warrington, but we've had an election,
:05:16. > :05:20.Jeremy Corbyn had spent the last day of campaigning
:05:21. > :05:29.Conservative since 2005, now Labour has a majority of almost 4,000.
:05:30. > :05:33.The conversation on the doorsteps with real people in the real
:05:34. > :05:37.communities of Weaver Vale wasn't just solely about Brexit.
:05:38. > :05:41.It was about the cuts to schools and the fears about losing teachers
:05:42. > :05:47.It was a similar story in High Peak and Crewe and Nantwich -
:05:48. > :05:51.And Chester had been the Conservatives' number one
:05:52. > :05:56.Bruce Matheson increased his majority elevenfold.
:05:57. > :05:58.Labour was left delighted in Lancashire, too.
:05:59. > :06:05.Cat Smith got the cream, increasing her tiny majority fivefold.
:06:06. > :06:10.John Woodcock had resigned himself to defeat in Barrow and distanced
:06:11. > :06:19.I have no idea, and I'm not sure that anyone you will have
:06:20. > :06:22.on this programme actually, genuinely has an idea
:06:23. > :06:25.either, and if they say that they do, I think
:06:26. > :06:29.because, as you say, there have been absolutely
:06:30. > :06:35.A bad night for his neighbour, Tim Farron, a national party leader
:06:36. > :06:42.The Conservatives could barely believe it,
:06:43. > :06:49.Liberal Democrats since '97, now Tory.
:06:50. > :06:51.The north-west typified the national picture -
:06:52. > :06:55.one of surprise, delight and despair.
:06:56. > :07:04.Who on the 18th of April could have predicted this?
:07:05. > :07:11.We certainly didn't. Joining us is one of the Labour gains, Mike
:07:12. > :07:15.Amesbury who took Weaver Vale in Cheshire, good morning to you.
:07:16. > :07:22.Congratulations. What was the secret and how did you win?
:07:23. > :07:27.I think the secret was we put forward a manifesto which was a
:07:28. > :07:34.manifesto of hope and opportunity. It inspired so many people, but in
:07:35. > :07:37.particular young people. There was a fear that despite good intentions
:07:38. > :07:41.young people would not turn out, but they did in my constituency
:07:42. > :07:46.certainly not only to vote but actually to help. I was inundated
:07:47. > :07:49.with volunteers. You campaign tactically? They do
:07:50. > :07:56.indirectly for your young people who had not voted?
:07:57. > :08:02.No, no, not just that. We certainly did want to engage young people that
:08:03. > :08:08.had not voted before. But there was as well a broad coalition of voters.
:08:09. > :08:12.With a shared goal of, well, you know, let's change the story and
:08:13. > :08:20.change the narrative. People are tired of cuts and the story of
:08:21. > :08:23.austerity. Let's have some open opportunity, and indeed our
:08:24. > :08:26.manifesto was popular in my constituency and fully costed of
:08:27. > :08:31.course. Lot of Labour MPs or former Labour
:08:32. > :08:36.MPs before the election seeking to distance themselves from Jeremy
:08:37. > :08:45.Corbyn, so has he been vindicated? He has clearly been vindicated,
:08:46. > :08:49.clearly. We have made 29 gains. People certainly in my constituency
:08:50. > :08:58.and beyond, particularly young people, have been inspired by the
:08:59. > :09:01.agenda forward. But of course we out campaigned in Weaver Vale the
:09:02. > :09:07.Conservatives. They approach this with an incredible arrogance, and in
:09:08. > :09:11.fact the snap election in the first place, you know, with the focus
:09:12. > :09:13.solely on Brexit... Whereas conversations on the doorstep were
:09:14. > :09:19.bread-and-butter issues, local schools and cuts and the fact people
:09:20. > :09:22.can't get GP appointments. And the lack of police presence on the
:09:23. > :09:28.streets. And they did not even have that conversation, and indeed make
:09:29. > :09:32.Tory opponent, the former MP, he seemed so complacent in terms of
:09:33. > :09:37.campaigning. OK, many thanks and congratulations.
:09:38. > :09:41.Enjoy yourself and get some sleep. Thank you.
:09:42. > :09:47.Let's start with that point, Nigel, incredible arrogance on the
:09:48. > :09:50.doorstep. Is that what you felt? That the manifesto to Conservative
:09:51. > :09:56.voters for granted? Yes, but the manifesto was the worst
:09:57. > :10:01.I have ever seen in 25 years of being a Member of Parliament. We
:10:02. > :10:05.shot ourselves in the foot. We did a triple assault on our core voters,
:10:06. > :10:09.the elderly. Quite frankly, that is all I heard on the doorstep for many
:10:10. > :10:15.days. We were not talking about Labour Party's policies in their
:10:16. > :10:19.manifesto, but trying to justify our own. And whoever was responsible for
:10:20. > :10:25.putting that in the manifesto quite frankly should be ashamed. And I
:10:26. > :10:27.hear Nick Timothy's name being mentioned as the adviser in charge
:10:28. > :10:33.of looking at this policy, so what was that in our manifesto? ! It
:10:34. > :10:37.should never have been there. And we were talking about taking away kits'
:10:38. > :10:43.ledgers and replacing them with Brexit and fox hunting... -- taking
:10:44. > :10:47.away the breakfasts of kids and replacing them with Brexit and fox
:10:48. > :10:50.hunting. People wanted to know about the health service and education,
:10:51. > :10:55.and a lot of people when you offer them free university education, they
:10:56. > :10:59.will vote for it. But they still gained more seats,
:11:00. > :11:04.son of a total disaster... The Labour Party have not won this
:11:05. > :11:06.election, though it may feel like that.
:11:07. > :11:09.That is because elections are often about expectations coming in and
:11:10. > :11:12.where you are at, so the key point is that it was an election we did
:11:13. > :11:17.not need to have. Theresa May called it and she called that because she
:11:18. > :11:23.wanted to massively increase her majority, and she thought that the
:11:24. > :11:26.Labour Party was vulnerable, and early on after this had first been
:11:27. > :11:31.called there were warning signs that we might go down to 100 seats or
:11:32. > :11:34.something. It is all relative. There is no ticking away from the fact
:11:35. > :11:39.that this is an absolutely terrible, terrible result for Theresa May.
:11:40. > :11:47.Little to the point of Mike, looking to the future, Jeremy Corbyn...
:11:48. > :11:50.We did get it wrong Jeremy Corbyn, and I said that, and I am really
:11:51. > :11:56.glad that we got it wrong, because it is the people who were out there,
:11:57. > :11:58.who I was talking to, who were really worried about the cuts to
:11:59. > :12:03.school budgets and worried about police cuts in Manchester...
:12:04. > :12:06.And that's what I found out and about talking to voters, it was not
:12:07. > :12:12.the Brexit election. It can go to other issues like austerity and the
:12:13. > :12:15.NHS, is that what one more seat for Labour in the end?
:12:16. > :12:19.Absolutely, the Labour manifesto was attractive, more money for the NHS
:12:20. > :12:22.and free university tuition, and a lot of goodies in the manifesto,
:12:23. > :12:25.with the Conservatives offering nothing. The other thing impressive
:12:26. > :12:28.but Labour performance was not sticking photos from the
:12:29. > :12:33.Conservatives, but those who voted Conservative in 2015 were unlikely
:12:34. > :12:37.to vote for Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour Party. What Corbyn did was to
:12:38. > :12:41.mobilise new voters. Turnout was up across the region and the percentage
:12:42. > :12:46.of 18 to 24-year-olds who voted, who cynics said would not vote, they
:12:47. > :12:50.voted in droves in the north-west yesterday, and they voted mostly for
:12:51. > :12:56.Labour. A great success for Jeremy Corbyn, who has excited people. Tens
:12:57. > :12:58.of thousands -- 10,000 people on West Kurdi Beach, energise the
:12:59. > :13:00.Labour Party. They said the youngsters would not
:13:01. > :13:07.turn out, and they were wrong. Another disappointing night
:13:08. > :13:09.for the Liberal Democrats. They lost four of their six seats
:13:10. > :13:12.two years ago and are now down to one after Southport went
:13:13. > :13:14.to the Conservatives. Party leader, Tim Farron,
:13:15. > :13:16.is the last man standing after clinging on to Westmorland
:13:17. > :13:18.and Lonsdale - just. And they're generally
:13:19. > :13:23.are not spot-on. If hopes of a fightback
:13:24. > :13:29.for the Liberal Democrats had faded before election day,
:13:30. > :13:31.the night would see Tim Farron remain as the party's sole
:13:32. > :13:33.MP in the north-west. Yes, he held his seat
:13:34. > :13:35.in Westmorland and Lonsdale, but only just,
:13:36. > :13:39.with a greatly reduced majority We have a situation now
:13:40. > :13:48.where hopefully, maybe, politicians may learn that calling
:13:49. > :13:50.referendums and general elections to suit your party rather
:13:51. > :13:52.than suiting the country In Southport, John Pugh had
:13:53. > :14:00.stood down after 16 years. Conservative Damien Moore won 18,500
:14:01. > :14:07.votes, a majority of almost 3,000. Liberal Democrat Sue McGuire came
:14:08. > :14:09.third, the party's message on a second referendum appearing not
:14:10. > :14:15.to prove popular. I think they saw it as an attempt
:14:16. > :14:23.to revisit the referendum itself, rather than validate whatever
:14:24. > :14:27.discussion that might come out Former MP for Cheadle Mark Hunter
:14:28. > :14:33.had set his sights The Conservative Mary
:14:34. > :14:38.Robinson held on. We did in fact increase our vote
:14:39. > :14:41.here in Cheadle, but at the end of the day the Labour vote,
:14:42. > :14:44.obviously, has been quite solid, and I'm afraid that,
:14:45. > :14:47.in the end, deprived us Another former MP, John Leech,
:14:48. > :14:53.also failed to win his seat back That left their leader to
:14:54. > :14:59.cling on to successes elsewhere... Great results in Eastbourne, Bath,
:15:00. > :15:03.Twickenham, Kingston, and joining us from Southport
:15:04. > :15:16.is the outgoing Liberal Democrat MP John Pugh, who'd represented
:15:17. > :15:33.the seat for 16 years. But also across the North West, for
:15:34. > :15:37.the Liberal Democrats. Was Tim Farron wrong to push for a second EU
:15:38. > :15:41.referendum when people think Brexit is done and dusted and out?
:15:42. > :15:45.I think the mistake in the national campaign was to base a lot of our
:15:46. > :15:51.general election approach around the issue of Brexit and our distinctive
:15:52. > :15:54.stance on it. I agree with many of the other commentators on your
:15:55. > :15:57.programme, on the doorstep people were not talking much about Brexit.
:15:58. > :16:01.If they were talking about it they were largely critical of the stands
:16:02. > :16:07.the party was taking rather than supportive. So I think we could have
:16:08. > :16:12.offered a manifesto a hell of a lot better than the one we did. The
:16:13. > :16:15.Labour manifesto... Could you not as the party have seen
:16:16. > :16:18.that coming and that that back to Tim Farron that it was not what
:16:19. > :16:25.people wanted? Nobody saw the election coming, and
:16:26. > :16:29.Tim's approach towards Brexit is actually far more subtle than people
:16:30. > :16:32.represent it as. But inevitably it appeared to many people as though
:16:33. > :16:37.this was a call for yet another referendum. That is what you are
:16:38. > :16:40.mainly campaigning on, if that is it, that will not win votes when
:16:41. > :16:45.people are thinking about other issues like the NHS are like schools
:16:46. > :16:48.and so on. Finally, John, does the Liberal
:16:49. > :16:53.Democrat party now have a real challenge redefining itself?
:16:54. > :16:55.It does, and I genuinely think we should have campaigner ages of
:16:56. > :17:01.social inequality and social justice, far more than we did. We
:17:02. > :17:06.are not essentially party of people who think about nothing but the EU,
:17:07. > :17:08.in that aspect. All the best for the future and
:17:09. > :17:12.banks. OK, thank you.
:17:13. > :17:17.Was it a massive mistake? They did not when...
:17:18. > :17:20.It was impossible to know what the Liberal Democrats to do because if
:17:21. > :17:24.you campaign on issues like social justice can people saying they have
:17:25. > :17:31.the Labour Party to do that, so I understand why Tim Farron would
:17:32. > :17:35.target the 48% remain voters. Going over to the Labour Party... Tim
:17:36. > :17:39.Farron's strategy but it backfired and it is humiliating for the
:17:40. > :17:41.Liberal Democrats, they did not manage all stop and think the fact
:17:42. > :17:45.that Vince Cable has been elected to parliament has put pressure on Tim
:17:46. > :17:48.Farron because he did not really come across at all during the
:17:49. > :17:52.campaign. What has not happened is Brexit is
:17:53. > :17:56.in the spotlight more than ever. This was called for a mandate that
:17:57. > :18:00.Theresa May could walk into Brussels with a firm hand and that has
:18:01. > :18:05.disappeared. Where do we stand now? We are leading the EU and I think
:18:06. > :18:12.that is accepted by the Labour Party as by my party as well, and
:18:13. > :18:15.negotiations starting 11 days... There was some disagreement, but
:18:16. > :18:18.even Ken Clarke had to accept the fact that we are leaving the
:18:19. > :18:20.European Union, and it does not change the result of the referendum
:18:21. > :18:23.their... But it changes the British image
:18:24. > :18:28.going into negotiations. The fact is that it looks likely
:18:29. > :18:33.there is going to be a Conservative Government, and Theresa May will be
:18:34. > :18:36.the Prime Minister of that, she will lead those negotiations...
:18:37. > :18:40.But for how long? Well, until we leave the European
:18:41. > :18:44.Union, that is how I see it. Do you think she is entitled to stay
:18:45. > :18:48.on as Prime Minister? Yes, and I am backing her, but there
:18:49. > :18:51.has to be changes in recognition that had that manifesto being passed
:18:52. > :18:58.by some of those people around her with grey hair, they may have said,
:18:59. > :19:01.what the heck? I am not talking about me but other people within the
:19:02. > :19:06.party and within the Cabinet, they would have looked up and said, not a
:19:07. > :19:10.chance. That shouldn't be going in. So John is right. The Labour Party
:19:11. > :19:13.seem to be offering everything, irrespective of whether it was
:19:14. > :19:17.affordable, and we weren't offering all that much at all.
:19:18. > :19:21.Is Nigel Wray to the Prime Minister, Lucy? Should you stay in her role?
:19:22. > :19:28.Her position is untenable. She called the selection because she
:19:29. > :19:31.wanted a stronger mandate... But instability.
:19:32. > :19:35.Back depends on the Conservative Party to an extent and also the
:19:36. > :19:40.mathematics in Parliament. We have got irresponsibility now, actually,
:19:41. > :19:43.because I think the Labour Party did massively better than expectations,
:19:44. > :19:50.but of course we did not win either. But we have a responsibility as well
:19:51. > :19:53.to be a responsible opposition. Jeremy Corbyn...
:19:54. > :20:00.I have said that, as in opposition, Jeremy Corbyn and all of us as MPs,
:20:01. > :20:06.to be united together... Can I say... ? I am angry that we
:20:07. > :20:11.have won this election not by a landslide but by 40 or 50... But we
:20:12. > :20:15.did do incredibly well in Scotland and we did gain 43% of the vote, and
:20:16. > :20:18.John, you could tell us what would normally happen when you get 43% of
:20:19. > :20:20.the vote. Let's talk about Ukip, who also had
:20:21. > :20:22.a miserable night. It was a miserable night for Ukip,
:20:23. > :20:25.whose share of the vote plummeted. Their leader and North West MEP
:20:26. > :20:28.Paul Nuttall failed in his bid Here, they lost huge
:20:29. > :20:31.numbers of voters in places like Heywood and Middleton -
:20:32. > :20:33.where they came so close in a byelection - probably
:20:34. > :20:45.explaining his reluctance He did not want to talk to us. Down
:20:46. > :20:49.to around 3% this time of the vote. Is that what is behind the seats
:20:50. > :20:52.that long? Yes, there was a lazy assumption
:20:53. > :20:57.that the Ukip vote would go to conservatives because the
:20:58. > :20:59.Conservatives were hard Brexit. Edinger understand that assumption.
:21:00. > :21:04.Yell at looking at the social profile of the average Ukip vote,
:21:05. > :21:10.every chance the Labour vote could absorb some of those boards.
:21:11. > :21:14.Ukip needs to pack up their tents, because there is no need for them.
:21:15. > :21:16.But now the pasta was Brexit is uncertain because we have not
:21:17. > :21:21.frankly got a Government. We may not have Theresa May is primitive. --
:21:22. > :21:27.the path towards Brexit is uncertain. Conservatives have lost
:21:28. > :21:29.their majority, so entitled to stay in Government do not necessarily
:21:30. > :21:33.with Theresa May. Somebody's will have been former
:21:34. > :21:36.Labour voters who came back to Labour, but felt that they had been
:21:37. > :21:43.taken for granted. At the Labour Party learned a lesson from Ukip?
:21:44. > :21:45.What the Labour voters want who voted for Brexit and maybe in the
:21:46. > :21:49.past voted Ukip and maybe were coming back to Labour this time, I
:21:50. > :21:54.think all of their votes if you looked at them, they wanted change.
:21:55. > :21:59.In the end, this election became a change election. Labour became the
:22:00. > :22:04.party of change. Theresa May worthy continuity party and people did not
:22:05. > :22:08.want that. But Ukip voters said, listen, we
:22:09. > :22:12.were going to vote Tory but not now we have heard what you have in your
:22:13. > :22:15.manifesto. That is the torpedo.
:22:16. > :22:22.It was an iceberg and we managed to steer the liner magically straight
:22:23. > :22:25.into that iceberg. Not just the policy but because
:22:26. > :22:28.there was no forward offer. It was all a backward offer and tough
:22:29. > :22:33.choices, doom and gloom, we had to put up with the doom and gloom...
:22:34. > :22:34.If we can, let's talk about good news for one Conservative.
:22:35. > :22:37.Esther McVey lost Wirral West two years ago but is
:22:38. > :22:40.back as MP for Tatton - the seat vacated by George Osborne.
:22:41. > :22:42.Does she think we need a female MP from the north-west
:22:43. > :22:55.Good to see another high profile woman back in Northwest politics.
:22:56. > :22:59.I am all for a good candidate... I am not a particular fan of Esther
:23:00. > :23:05.McVey but it is good to see more women in politics. Lots of new MPs
:23:06. > :23:08.coming in who I don't know it all because we weren't expected to
:23:09. > :23:12.window seat. Good to get to know some college as well. Some new
:23:13. > :23:15.colleagues across the place. She will have a different tone in
:23:16. > :23:20.cat into George Osborne, different characters.
:23:21. > :23:26.I love Esther to death. She is wonderful and when she was in Wirral
:23:27. > :23:31.she was hammered by that one policy, and the fact is now she has got a
:23:32. > :23:34.new lease of life, and like you, Lucy, I hardly got to know some of
:23:35. > :23:39.the names and faces of some of the MPs that got elected in 2015, now
:23:40. > :23:42.they're gone. John, before we finish, is this a
:23:43. > :23:47.sign of things to come? Everything up in the regular elections... ?
:23:48. > :23:54.I will see you in autumn. There could well be another election. You
:23:55. > :23:58.have a Conservative minority Government is unstable, maths are
:23:59. > :24:04.tight, and if Labour tried to form a coalition that would be hugely
:24:05. > :24:05.unstable as well. We are in serious difficulty as to Government
:24:06. > :24:10.permission. How does that make you to feel?
:24:11. > :24:13.My shoe leather is worn out and I am shattered.
:24:14. > :24:19.And think the electorate wanted. We have a responsibility to be
:24:20. > :24:23.responsible as do the Conservatives. The public in a clear view that they
:24:24. > :24:27.did not really want either of us, that is why we have a hung
:24:28. > :24:32.parliament. It is our job to try to navigate a way to Brexit, to try to
:24:33. > :24:35.make sure that the country stays on track, and every single and be has a
:24:36. > :24:38.responsibility. We were told there would be voter
:24:39. > :24:44.fatigue this time, and did not see that.
:24:45. > :24:47.Great turnout, back to the 1980s and 1980s local turnout, fascinating. It
:24:48. > :24:50.reflects a great interest in politics. -- back to the 80s and
:24:51. > :24:52.1980s. Batted to us. My thanks to the
:24:53. > :24:55.guests. North West Today will have
:24:56. > :25:03.all the latest reaction at 1.30 she will stay. Viewers are joining
:25:04. > :25:17.us from around the UK.