:00:15. > :00:21.Front line Kabul - a major attack by the Taliban is under way in the
:00:21. > :00:31.Afghan capital. Missile, suicide bombers and gunfire as the US
:00:31. > :00:41.
:00:41. > :00:45.Welcome to the programme. Also in the programme: Warnings of
:00:45. > :00:52.a bloody cycle of reprisals in Libya. Amnesty International says
:00:52. > :00:58.opposition forces may be guilty of war crimes. There is no war crimes.
:00:58. > :01:05.They are not a military. They are ordinary people. They might be some
:01:05. > :01:14.mistakes. A threatened, abused and killed because of their sexuality.
:01:14. > :01:18.A new international organisation joined the fight for gay rights.
:01:18. > :01:23.It is 12:30pm in London, 7:30am in Washington and mid- afternoon in
:01:23. > :01:28.Kabul, were at least four people have been killed in an ongoing co-
:01:28. > :01:31.ordinated attack by Taliban fighters. They have been several
:01:31. > :01:37.explosions and heavy gunfire in what is supposed to be a high
:01:37. > :01:42.security part of the city. Rockets have been fired towards both the US
:01:42. > :01:47.embassy and the NATO headquarters. Our Correspondent in Kabul, who had
:01:47. > :01:51.to take cover earlier, a few moments ago gave me the latest.
:01:51. > :01:56.George, one of those rockets you mentioned appeared to be targeted
:01:56. > :02:01.at the US embassy which is not very far from where we are. It landed
:02:01. > :02:08.about 100 metres away. When it landed it seemed to hit a school
:02:08. > :02:11.bus with a great deal of shrapnel. We have heard LE6 explosions,
:02:11. > :02:15.police that three of them rocket propelled grenades. At least three
:02:15. > :02:21.suicide attackers are involved in this a salt to target the US
:02:21. > :02:26.embassy and the International and mission. We are about two hours
:02:26. > :02:30.into this attack. I have just heard another couple of gunshot very near
:02:30. > :02:35.where we are at the moment. Quentin, I am assuming responsibility for
:02:35. > :02:39.dealing with this lies with the Afghan forces? And the attack
:02:39. > :02:44.itself must call into question itself their ability to secure
:02:44. > :02:51.Kabul? It might not seem like it, but the
:02:51. > :02:56.number of Kabul attacks are down. But other insurgent groups have
:02:56. > :03:03.shown they can strike at even the most secure areas in this city. We
:03:03. > :03:08.believe that Gamp security forces are on the streets in force. I
:03:08. > :03:13.could see the US embassy Marines on top of the Embassy securing and
:03:13. > :03:17.assessing the area. In between explosions and gunshots it is
:03:17. > :03:22.eerily quiet. Most Afghan people and even many of the guards in this
:03:22. > :03:27.area are off the streets and have taken cover. I could not quite
:03:27. > :03:32.understand it, are you saying the US Marines are involved and the
:03:32. > :03:38.firing back? We did not see them firing back. You would expect, when
:03:38. > :03:42.an attack takes place, the US Marines and the force protection
:03:42. > :03:47.soldiers at the ISAF headquarters would be on high alert. They would
:03:47. > :03:53.take positions and assess the situation and they are prepared for
:03:53. > :03:59.any attack on those buildings. Let's take a look at some of the
:03:59. > :04:02.other stories. Libyan rebels fighting to overthrow Colonel
:04:02. > :04:06.Gaddafi have been accused of unlawful killings and torture.
:04:07. > :04:11.Amnesty International made the accusations in a report based on
:04:11. > :04:21.three months of research in Libya. It is urging the new Government to
:04:21. > :04:22.
:04:22. > :04:25.establish the rule of law. Suspected Gaddafi loyalists in the
:04:25. > :04:31.hands of International Security Assistance Force. No suggestion of
:04:31. > :04:35.malpractice here, Boswell's Amnesty International accuses the Colonel
:04:35. > :04:40.Gaddafi regime of widespread crimes under international law, it says it
:04:40. > :04:44.has evidence of serious abuses by opposition supporters including
:04:44. > :04:48.torture and reprisal killings. Amnesty is calling on the new
:04:48. > :04:52.leadership to show more accountability. In February there
:04:52. > :04:59.was a rumour about Colonel Gaddafi using black people as mercenaries.
:04:59. > :05:05.It is wrong, the NCC has not done a lot to curb that room and now there
:05:05. > :05:09.is a lot of retaliation against sub-Saharan Africans. They are at
:05:09. > :05:14.real risk of being taken from the work, their home, from the street,
:05:14. > :05:17.being tortured and killed. Amnesty International suggests some
:05:18. > :05:27.opposition supporters could be responsible for war crimes,
:05:27. > :05:30.although on a smaller scale. An allegation rejected by the National
:05:30. > :05:37.Transitional Council. They are not a military, they are ordinary
:05:37. > :05:43.people. They might be some mistakes, but we cannot clarify them as war-
:05:43. > :05:47.crimes. On the ground in Libya, forces of the National Transitional
:05:48. > :05:52.Council check vehicles leaving that broke Gaddafi stronghold of Bani
:05:52. > :05:56.Walid, as it continues to hold out despite intensive fighting around
:05:56. > :06:01.the time -- town and NATO airstrikes. It is full of anxious
:06:01. > :06:08.civilians, but the NTC are on the lookout for senior members of the
:06:08. > :06:14.Gaddafi regime, trying to make their escape, too. And in Tripoli,
:06:14. > :06:19.a new stage for the head of the Endsleigh seat, Mustafa Abdul Jalil
:06:19. > :06:22.to address the people. From the same as were Colonel Gaddafi used
:06:23. > :06:31.to rally his supporters, he described his vision for the new
:06:31. > :06:36.Libya. TRANSLATION: We seek a state of
:06:36. > :06:41.institutions, law and prosperity. We won't tolerate any extremist
:06:41. > :06:46.ideology on the right or the left. We are Muslim people for a moderate
:06:46. > :06:54.Islam and we will stay on this road. You are on our side, you are our
:06:54. > :06:58.weapons against anybody who tries to sabotage a revolution.
:06:58. > :07:02.Heady times in Tripoli, managing the expectations and the interests
:07:02. > :07:10.of the whole population of this nation, one of the major challenges
:07:10. > :07:15.ahead. Those allegations from Amnesty
:07:15. > :07:20.International are aimed at both sides in the Libyan conflict. Both
:07:20. > :07:23.sides are accused of racism and staring of xenophobia which led to
:07:23. > :07:28.attacks on sub-Saharan Africans. The majority of violations were
:07:28. > :07:35.committed by could at the forces of fighters loyal to the National
:07:35. > :07:38.Transitional Council are accused of lynchings and revenge killings. The
:07:38. > :07:48.NTC have denied the allegations but Amnesty International say they
:07:48. > :07:48.
:07:48. > :07:52.shouldn't allow this behaviour. Claudio Cordone joins us from
:07:52. > :07:57.Tripoli. Let ME pick up what the Justice Minister told us in that
:07:57. > :08:00.report. He said, the opposition forces were not a military and
:08:00. > :08:06.therefore they could not be guilty of what you have suggested, war
:08:06. > :08:12.crimes? Libya is still in an ongoing
:08:12. > :08:17.conflict, although an internal one. There are some members who commit
:08:17. > :08:23.crimes such as torturing prisoners, would be responsible for war crimes.
:08:23. > :08:27.The point is not so much the legal definition, the fact is everybody
:08:27. > :08:32.should condemn and prosecute anybody who is responsible for the
:08:32. > :08:34.kind of abuses such as killing prisoners, torturing them and so on.
:08:34. > :08:39.We know the National Transitional Council has said it repeatedly,
:08:39. > :08:45.they won't tolerate these crimes. We would like to see more direct
:08:45. > :08:48.appeals for these types of acts them not to be carried out. Also in
:08:48. > :08:53.particular for the Protection of those who are currently in
:08:53. > :08:56.detention centres around the country. We visited many in Tripoli
:08:56. > :09:01.and its surroundings. We are very concerned about the treatment of
:09:01. > :09:04.detainees in the centre's right now. You must be concerned, it is one
:09:04. > :09:10.thing for the chairman of the National Transitional Council to be
:09:10. > :09:12.making speeches in Martyr's Square. Quite another thing for him to
:09:12. > :09:19.guarantee to people like you that these revenge killings, perhaps
:09:20. > :09:27.even war crimes, that they won't continue? We are aware of the
:09:27. > :09:32.difficulties that -- difficulties they are facing. It is being ruled
:09:32. > :09:35.effectively by a variety of armed groups who may not respond to
:09:35. > :09:38.instructions from the National Transitional Council. The council
:09:38. > :09:44.is establishing itself as the governments of the new Olivia. They
:09:44. > :09:51.should make more direct appeals to deal with some specific crimes. --
:09:51. > :09:55.Libya. Not just for not taking reprisals, but the situation of
:09:55. > :09:59.black Libyans who are being assumed automatically of being loyal to
:09:59. > :10:04.Colonel Gaddafi, who are being detained and roughed up and so on.
:10:04. > :10:08.At the same time they should remove from active duty, any fighters they
:10:08. > :10:12.suspect of having committed these crimes. It is something we know
:10:12. > :10:17.they are aware of, and they have said things that we would like to
:10:17. > :10:24.see some proper action on the ground. The situation remains dire.
:10:24. > :10:29.You mention xenophobic attacks on black Africans, as opposed to Arabs.
:10:29. > :10:34.Have you seen any signs that these people are going to be given the
:10:34. > :10:40.kind of protection you are calling for? The television reports we see,
:10:40. > :10:44.see them in difficult and dire circumstances. We have also
:10:44. > :10:48.witnessed for example, a black Libyan being taken out of hospital
:10:48. > :10:52.by gunmen who told him a ring no way you off from and we will take
:10:52. > :10:57.you away from Tripoli because they treat you too well. There are many
:10:57. > :11:04.examples of that nature affecting Africans from sub-Saharan Africa,
:11:04. > :11:08.who have no one to turn to. We have seen those actions and that that is
:11:08. > :11:11.why we think a direct appeal, as others have been made by the
:11:11. > :11:16.National Transitional Council to all of their fighters to respect
:11:16. > :11:18.them in particular, would be important as one way to try to
:11:19. > :11:24.influence the variety of armed groups who at the moment are in
:11:24. > :11:27.control of much of Libya. Cloudier called Don't Fence the time.
:11:27. > :11:32.At least five children and a bus driver had been killed during an
:11:32. > :11:35.ambush on a school bus in north- western Pakistan. The children were
:11:35. > :11:39.returning to their local village from the shower when the gunmen
:11:39. > :11:41.attacked. Almost 20 others were also injured. Police are
:11:41. > :11:45.investigating why the bus was targeted.
:11:45. > :11:48.Or authorities have stepped up the search for British woman in Kenya
:11:48. > :11:54.who was abducted after her husband was killed in an attack on Monday.
:11:54. > :11:59.They were staying at a luxury safari village. It is feared the
:11:59. > :12:05.woman has been taken to Somalia. The Iranian President, Mahmoud
:12:05. > :12:13.Ahmadinejad has told the US network, NBC that two hike is detained in
:12:13. > :12:18.Iran will be released. They were seized in 2009 year the border. A
:12:18. > :12:23.third hiker was released last year on humanitarian grounds.
:12:23. > :12:27.Australia's Prime Minister, Julia Gillard has presented her
:12:27. > :12:31.controversial tax bill to Parliament. It would force 500 of
:12:31. > :12:37.the country's biggest polluters to pay for every tonne of carbon
:12:37. > :12:40.dioxide they emit, in a bid to tackle climate change.
:12:40. > :12:45.Becoming a father could cause a sharp fall in the hormone
:12:45. > :12:48.testosterone, according to US researchers. A five-year study of
:12:48. > :12:53.600 men in the Philippines have found the decline was strongest
:12:53. > :12:59.among men who were most involved in raising their children.
:12:59. > :13:09.Still to come on the programme: How a new type of lie-detector in test
:13:09. > :13:11.
:13:11. > :13:16.could boost security at airports. First, let's get the business news
:13:16. > :13:21.with Aaron. If you have to talk me through this. Italy is in trouble,
:13:21. > :13:26.but they went marching off to China to try and get some help and what
:13:26. > :13:32.happened? They did that last week. Italian officials or work in
:13:32. > :13:36.Beijing with their caps in hand. Joining Spain, Portugal, and
:13:36. > :13:41.companies like Morgan Stanley. When you are strapped for cash, who were
:13:41. > :13:45.you turn to? The only one with money is China. It is sitting on
:13:45. > :13:49.reserves of three trillion dollars. We have not had any confirmation
:13:49. > :13:53.from Beijing or whether they will buy the Italian debt. But Beijing
:13:53. > :13:59.has been supportive towards the eurozone. But given the state of
:13:59. > :14:02.some of these economies, why would they want to buy these debts? This
:14:02. > :14:06.is a correspondence in Beijing. is trade and it is something
:14:06. > :14:10.Chinese officials have spoken about in the last few years. They are
:14:10. > :14:15.interested in seeing happen, that the eurozone countries continued
:14:15. > :14:19.boosting their economies. Their economies don't falter. If they do,
:14:19. > :14:24.people could buy fewer Chinese-made goods and that could hit the
:14:24. > :14:33.economy in China. That has not had in any reassurance. Italy went to
:14:33. > :14:39.the markets today to raise $9 billion. China has not made up its
:14:39. > :14:43.mind about Italy, but it made up its mind about Volvo? Absolutely.
:14:44. > :14:49.Just over a year ago, Volvo was under the Ford umbrella and it was
:14:49. > :14:53.struggling. It was losing money and Ford wanted rid of it. They sold it
:14:53. > :15:00.to a company in China for $1.8 billion and the Magic started to
:15:00. > :15:09.happen. Volvo sales are up this year. In China they are up nearly
:15:09. > :15:17.40%. It has become the newest luxury brand in the US in terms of
:15:17. > :15:21.sales. Volvo is the fastest growing premium brand in the first eight
:15:21. > :15:26.months of this year. We have managed significant turnaround last
:15:26. > :15:29.year. Volvo is profitable and will remain profitable. We are
:15:29. > :15:35.generating positive cash flow and that is despite the investments we
:15:35. > :15:39.are taking into new technology and to our industrial footprint. He was
:15:39. > :15:41.very optimistic but they are keeping their eye on the markets
:15:41. > :15:43.and this talk of recession in the US and Europe.
:15:43. > :15:53.US and Europe. Let's take a quick look at the
:15:53. > :15:58.
:15:58. > :16:04.We want to hear what do you think. Please get in touch. The best way
:16:04. > :16:09.to do that is go to our website. There'll also has of wonderful
:16:09. > :16:19.things including some highlights from the programme. -- there are
:16:19. > :16:23.all sorts of wonderful things. The headlines: Taliban militants
:16:23. > :16:27.have launched co-ordinated attacks in the embassy district of the
:16:27. > :16:32.Afghan capital Kabul. Amnesty International says Libyan
:16:32. > :16:38.opposition forces may be guilty of war crimes and new authorities in
:16:38. > :16:42.Tripoli deny this. A dispute over preparations for
:16:42. > :16:46.Nazi atrocities has said Germany and Italy against each other in the
:16:46. > :16:51.UN's highest court. Some Italian courts have already received claims
:16:51. > :16:58.from victims and their families but Germany has rejected suggestions it
:16:58. > :17:04.should pay up. German soldiers captured by allied
:17:04. > :17:08.forces and paraded for the cameras as prisoners of war. More than 60
:17:08. > :17:13.years on and Germany has forced it to lead to appear here at the
:17:13. > :17:18.International Court of Justice. -- forced Italy. They are trying to
:17:18. > :17:21.stop victims of the Nazi regime from being allowed to claim
:17:21. > :17:27.compensation through the Italian court system. In legal terms of
:17:27. > :17:32.this is all about several community. We request a ruling on the
:17:32. > :17:38.principle of state immunity, a pillar of present basic standard
:17:38. > :17:44.international law. Central to the principle is that of jurisdictional
:17:44. > :17:52.immunity, which of course debars private parties from bringing seats
:17:52. > :17:55.before the Court of a foreign state against another state for its Act's.
:17:55. > :18:01.The Germans dared think it is right they should be dragged into another
:18:01. > :18:03.country's courts. -- don't think. It is not just the Italians seeking
:18:03. > :18:11.reparations for events that happened during the Second World
:18:11. > :18:15.War. This is the aftermath of a massacre. More than 200 Greek
:18:15. > :18:20.villagers were killed in the attack carried out by Hitler's army in the
:18:20. > :18:24.summer before the end of the war. Lawyers representing Greece will
:18:24. > :18:28.explain why they believe these victims should be entitled to claim
:18:28. > :18:33.for reparations. It is not a matter of money. For
:18:33. > :18:38.those people it is a matter of justice.
:18:38. > :18:42.If Germany lose, this could be a landmark case opening up
:18:42. > :18:52.opportunities for victims in other nations to seek compensation for
:18:52. > :18:52.
:18:52. > :18:55.crimes committed by the Nat seas. - - Nazis.
:18:55. > :19:00.A new organisation to support gay men and women around the world has
:19:00. > :19:06.been lodged today. Kaleidoscope will promote diversity and drugs --
:19:06. > :19:10.was back to. It will name and shame countries where persecution of
:19:10. > :19:19.homosexuals is widespread. We are joined by a Nigerian gay activist
:19:19. > :19:26.and a founding member, and the director, land price. Bisi Alim, if
:19:26. > :19:31.I could start with you. Nigeria is a free-for-all, all sorts of things
:19:31. > :19:37.of possible, the you have had a particularly nasty experience --
:19:37. > :19:41.but you have had. I have. It is interesting you say
:19:41. > :19:47.it is a country where everything is possible, more like the American
:19:47. > :19:53.dream, I don't know what we will have the Nigerian dream. But there
:19:53. > :19:59.is so much tension around religion, tripe, and at the court is the
:19:59. > :20:03.tension around sexuality and sex education. People like me and so
:20:04. > :20:08.many others, it is interesting for you to know it is just last year
:20:08. > :20:12.that the law was passed in Nigeria that allowed women to apply for
:20:12. > :20:17.international passports without the permission of their husband. You
:20:17. > :20:22.can see the situation. What happened to you personally? You
:20:22. > :20:26.come out publicly on television. 2004, and before the show we knew
:20:26. > :20:29.something would happen, we knew there would be a backlash but it
:20:30. > :20:39.was more than what we were expecting and the bottom line was I
:20:39. > :20:44.was almost killed. Just like Uganda activist. I was lucky enough to be
:20:44. > :20:50.able to escape, find my way back to the UK where I have been given
:20:50. > :20:56.another opportunity to live my life. Lance, that is a graphic example of
:20:56. > :21:00.what the problem is. Perhaps we are not so convinced about why did
:21:00. > :21:04.needs a new organisation, there are lots that have been fighting for
:21:04. > :21:09.gay rights at work in this area. You are right and they have done
:21:09. > :21:12.some fantastic work. Stonewall, probably the best-known but some
:21:12. > :21:16.big international gay rights organisations as well. But nobody
:21:16. > :21:24.has tried to do what we think Kaleidoscope can do which is on two
:21:24. > :21:29.levels, connecting with people who are in the same situation he was in,
:21:29. > :21:33.not quite sure how to respond to events in his own country, and if
:21:33. > :21:37.we can build up the capacity and their ability to engage with their
:21:37. > :21:41.media, governments and learn from one another about what works and
:21:41. > :21:45.what doesn't work in terms of trying to level the playing field,
:21:45. > :21:49.because certainly media coverage, the people who want to preach hate
:21:49. > :21:56.have an easy ride. Most of the coverage of human sexuality, gay
:21:56. > :22:00.issues, is very hostile. If we can redress that balance a little bit...
:22:00. > :22:05.Here you are, a white man sitting in London, director of an
:22:06. > :22:10.organisation, most of the problem we are talking about is in the
:22:10. > :22:16.southern states, Africa, Asia. There is a problem there, isn't it
:22:17. > :22:24.going to sound like white liberals preaching to agents? That is why
:22:24. > :22:31.all first conversations we had to work with people like Bisi Alim. We
:22:31. > :22:36.are based in London, we make no apologies for that. The language we
:22:36. > :22:41.use, the whole way the operate, it will be driven by them, it is about
:22:41. > :22:45.building up support. You mentioned earlier, you talked
:22:45. > :22:50.about religion and sex education and so on. You didn't use the word
:22:50. > :22:55.culture. But actually what you're up against his culture, is it not?
:22:55. > :23:02.Even in countries like South Africa which earned a well as the most
:23:02. > :23:07.liberal of constitutions, -- which I know well. You said you have been
:23:07. > :23:11.to Nigeria, you can see that when people talk about culture they talk
:23:11. > :23:15.about religion. There is this fluidity between culture, what is
:23:15. > :23:22.culture, and porters religion? Every time we talk about a culture
:23:22. > :23:27.in Africa we talk about a Christian God or a Muslim God which is not
:23:27. > :23:33.our culture. We have forgotten about our tradition. They are
:23:33. > :23:38.traditional day 80s. Would they have been any more tolerant? There
:23:38. > :23:42.is history of homosexuality before white man. Even white people came
:23:42. > :23:47.to Africa recorded history of where men were dressed like women, men
:23:48. > :23:52.were the third minute, had what you would call husbands, and these
:23:52. > :23:56.people were living happily within the society, within the framework
:23:56. > :24:02.of the society. They were not far removed or living in the bush. The
:24:02. > :24:06.law that criminalised, sexuality is British law.
:24:07. > :24:11.I noticed in your literature you say you're prepared to name and
:24:11. > :24:16.shame countries that don't give equal rights. Why don't you start
:24:16. > :24:21.now. Name a few countries. It doesn't take Kaleidoscope to
:24:22. > :24:31.name and shame countries. We know about Nigeria. Two or three
:24:32. > :24:32.
:24:32. > :24:40.examples, Uganda, only... We know that already. 38 of the 50 members
:24:40. > :24:45.of the Commonwealth criminalise and sexuality. Criminalise, have laws
:24:45. > :24:55.criminalising homosexuality in some form or another. Most of those laws
:24:55. > :24:56.
:24:56. > :25:01.were left behind by the British as a result of the colonies. You
:25:01. > :25:05.mention South Africa where the constitution was changed. India it
:25:05. > :25:09.has been decriminalised, so it is possible to make a change. It is
:25:09. > :25:15.not about as coming from outside telling them what to do, the
:25:16. > :25:21.British have made two mistakes already -- too many mistakes. Why
:25:21. > :25:31.was India able to make progress? Why is it in a wonder they can have
:25:31. > :25:31.
:25:31. > :25:34.a sensible discussion about these issues than in Uganda? -- Rwandan.
:25:35. > :25:39.As efforts continue to rebuild Japan's north-east region
:25:39. > :25:42.devastated by the earthquake and tsunami six months ago defected
:25:42. > :25:47.communities have been receiving help and support from around the
:25:47. > :25:52.world in various forms. The young Greek pianist Panos Karan, the
:25:52. > :25:56.founder of the charity, Keys Of Change, gave his support to the
:25:56. > :26:06.displaced playing 11 recitals in eight days for those living in
:26:06. > :26:36.
:26:36. > :26:40.emergency shelters in Fukushima. He said the trip changed him as an
:26:40. > :26:43.artist and a person with people teaching him a sense of dignity and
:26:43. > :26:47.compassion that touched him beyond words.