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0:00:15 > 0:00:17- Hello and welcome to Hacio.
0:00:17 > 0:00:20- Tonight, the European Union debate.
0:00:20 > 0:00:21- Do you want to be in or out?
0:00:22 > 0:00:25- And has the Prime Minister - secured a good deal for Britain?
0:00:26 > 0:00:30- He hasn't come back with anything - that people here wanted.
0:00:30 > 0:00:31- It's a sham.
0:00:32 > 0:00:34- New reporter Guto met one Tory...
0:00:34 > 0:00:37- ..who's campaigning against - his leader in the referendum.
0:00:38 > 0:00:41- He has returned with empty hands.
0:00:41 > 0:00:46- That's an example of how much - influence we now have in Europe.
0:00:47 > 0:00:50- We must have control - over what happens in Britain.
0:00:51 > 0:00:55- But we begin tonight - with revenge porn.
0:00:55 > 0:00:58- This is a growing problem - among young people.
0:00:58 > 0:01:02- Tonight, we hear the experiences - of two girls who have been affected.
0:01:07 > 0:01:08- Revenge porn.
0:01:08 > 0:01:12- When sexual images are shared - by phone or over the web...
0:01:12 > 0:01:16- ..without the permission - of the person featured...
0:01:16 > 0:01:20- ..as a way of seeking revenge - on former partners or lovers.
0:01:24 > 0:01:27- This 17-year-old girl - is from the Cardiff area.
0:01:27 > 0:01:30- We have hidden her face - to protect her identity.
0:01:31 > 0:01:32- When she was 14...
0:01:32 > 0:01:36- ..her boyfriend asked her - to share sexual images of herself.
0:01:37 > 0:01:39- I was going out with this bloke - at the time.
0:01:40 > 0:01:42- He kept asking me all the time.
0:01:42 > 0:01:45- Eventually, I just sent them.
0:01:45 > 0:01:46- Just topless images.
0:01:47 > 0:01:48- I just sent them to him.
0:01:49 > 0:01:50- Her boyfriend was older.
0:01:50 > 0:01:53- As the relationship deteriorated...
0:01:53 > 0:01:58- ..she heard rumours that there were - private images of her on the web.
0:01:58 > 0:02:00- I thought they were making it up.
0:02:00 > 0:02:02- I didn't even look at Facebook.
0:02:03 > 0:02:07- I thought they just wanted - to stir up trouble.
0:02:08 > 0:02:13- But after loads of people told me, - I thought hold on, maybe it is true.
0:02:14 > 0:02:17- At the time, - she didn't have a Facebook account.
0:02:17 > 0:02:22- She had to create one to find out - whether the rumours were true.
0:02:22 > 0:02:25- I hadn't grasped - the scale of the thing.
0:02:25 > 0:02:28- Initially, - only those in my year knew.
0:02:28 > 0:02:33- Then, older people came up to me - and asked questions about it.
0:02:34 > 0:02:37- She only sent the photos - to her boyfriend...
0:02:38 > 0:02:42- ..and so couldn't understand - how they had gone public.
0:02:42 > 0:02:44- I was really confused.
0:02:44 > 0:02:45- I felt betrayed.
0:02:45 > 0:02:48- I asked him - and he denied everything.
0:02:48 > 0:02:50- I was angry with myself.
0:02:51 > 0:02:53- But I was still talking to him.
0:02:54 > 0:02:56- He was still my boyfriend - at the time.
0:02:57 > 0:03:01- With the relationship more or less - over, she turned to her friends.
0:03:01 > 0:03:05- But their attitude - had changed completely.
0:03:05 > 0:03:07- Their attitude was really weird.
0:03:08 > 0:03:11- When I first told them - he was trying to persuade me...
0:03:12 > 0:03:15- ..they told me to do it - and that they all did it.
0:03:15 > 0:03:20- But when it started to spread, - they all accused me of being a slut.
0:03:20 > 0:03:24- They called me names - and told me it was all my fault.
0:03:25 > 0:03:29- She endured months of bullying - after the images went public.
0:03:29 > 0:03:32- It was a dark and lonely period - for her.
0:03:33 > 0:03:37- I was suffering really badly - with depression...
0:03:37 > 0:03:40- ..and anxiety, wherever I went.
0:03:40 > 0:03:44- At school, people were talking - about me and staring at me.
0:03:45 > 0:03:49- I started to think that it was - happening outside school as well.
0:03:49 > 0:03:53- On the street, I'd think - people were talking about me.
0:03:54 > 0:03:58- She found it hard to cope - and often cried during lessons.
0:03:58 > 0:04:03- She decided to change schools, - but it didn't stop her ex-boyfriend.
0:04:05 > 0:04:09- I got a text, "You're not going - to get away that easily."
0:04:09 > 0:04:11- I didn't see it as a threat.
0:04:11 > 0:04:13- I was confused, so I ignored it.
0:04:13 > 0:04:15- I thought he was being a creep.
0:04:15 > 0:04:18- But after a couple of weeks - at my new school...
0:04:18 > 0:04:20- ..old photos began circulating.
0:04:22 > 0:04:26- Another girl has also spoken to us - about her experiences.
0:04:27 > 0:04:31- Once again, her face is hidden - to conceal her identity.
0:04:31 > 0:04:33- I was 15 at the time...
0:04:33 > 0:04:34- ..and he was 17.
0:04:35 > 0:04:37- We went out for about four months.
0:04:38 > 0:04:40- I really liked him.
0:04:40 > 0:04:44- I never thought - anything like that would happen.
0:04:45 > 0:04:48- Her boyfriend asked - for a naked photo of her.
0:04:48 > 0:04:52- With her friends encouraging her, - she agreed and sent one to him.
0:04:52 > 0:04:56- Just one photo - of me standing completely naked.
0:04:57 > 0:04:59- That's what I sent him.
0:04:59 > 0:05:03- But when the relationship - turned sour...
0:05:03 > 0:05:05- ..he used the photo to get revenge.
0:05:06 > 0:05:10- Until just before it happened, - I was fine with him.
0:05:12 > 0:05:15- I really liked him, - but then we fell out.
0:05:15 > 0:05:18- Suddenly, the photo was on the web.
0:05:20 > 0:05:25- The photo she sent to her boyfriend - was on Facebook for all to see.
0:05:25 > 0:05:27- I felt really small.
0:05:29 > 0:05:32- Nothing of mine - was private any more.
0:05:33 > 0:05:35- Everyone had seen everything.
0:05:36 > 0:05:40- Anyone could have taken - a screenshot of the photo.
0:05:40 > 0:05:43- Even now, I don't know - who still has a copy.
0:05:44 > 0:05:48- She managed to get Facebook - to remove the photo...
0:05:48 > 0:05:51- ..but was too ashamed - to take the matter further.
0:05:52 > 0:05:56- I didn't want my parents - to find out either...
0:05:56 > 0:05:59- ..or anyone who's close to me.
0:05:59 > 0:06:01- Any close relative.
0:06:04 > 0:06:06- I'd also have been embarrassed...
0:06:06 > 0:06:10- ..to go to the police - about something like that.
0:06:12 > 0:06:16- This girl was 14 - when it happened to her.
0:06:16 > 0:06:19- Now, at 17, - she'd have reacted differently.
0:06:19 > 0:06:24- If anything like that happened now, - I'd go straight to the police.
0:06:24 > 0:06:25- No question.
0:06:25 > 0:06:28- If anyone did that to me, - I'd go to the police.
0:06:28 > 0:06:34- She says the recipient of the image - has a duty to treat it with respect.
0:06:34 > 0:06:38- She wants more attention - given to the subject in schools.
0:06:39 > 0:06:41- Young people do send naked images.
0:06:42 > 0:06:43- That happens.
0:06:43 > 0:06:46- They should be educated - about the risks...
0:06:47 > 0:06:51- ..and about how to deal with it - if anything goes wrong.
0:06:52 > 0:06:54- Would you still send naked images?
0:06:54 > 0:06:58- What's your opinion - about sending naked images now?
0:06:58 > 0:07:00- I still think that maybe I might...
0:07:01 > 0:07:03- ..but I'd be a lot more careful - about it.
0:07:03 > 0:07:06- I'd make sure - it was because I wanted to...
0:07:06 > 0:07:10- ..not because someone - was trying to persuade me to do it.
0:07:14 > 0:07:16- Despite her experiences...
0:07:16 > 0:07:20- ..this girl also says - that she would send a photo again.
0:07:23 > 0:07:27- People will still send photos - and people will put them on the web.
0:07:27 > 0:07:29- You won't stop that.
0:07:29 > 0:07:31- It's just something...
0:07:33 > 0:07:35- ..the young people of today do.
0:07:37 > 0:07:42- This isn't the first time - Hacio has looked at this problem.
0:07:42 > 0:07:47- But is a new law making revenge - porn an offence having any effect?
0:07:48 > 0:07:53- Sexting is growing in popularity, - especially among young people.
0:07:54 > 0:07:57- In a 2013 survey - by Childline and the NSPCC...
0:07:57 > 0:08:02- ..60% of young people aged 13-18 - said they had been asked...
0:08:02 > 0:08:05- ..for sexual images or videos - of themselves.
0:08:05 > 0:08:10- A quarter of those had sent an image - or video on to someone else.
0:08:12 > 0:08:16- Last year, Hacio filmed - with Cazine McCarthy...
0:08:16 > 0:08:21- ..where innocent sexting had turned - sour and led to revenge porn.
0:08:22 > 0:08:27- He posted a nude photo and video - of me on my Instagram account...
0:08:27 > 0:08:29- ..and he changed my password...
0:08:30 > 0:08:32- ..so I couldn't delete it.
0:08:32 > 0:08:34- I begged him to take it down.
0:08:34 > 0:08:37- I'd have done anything - for him to take it down.
0:08:39 > 0:08:40- She went to the police.
0:08:41 > 0:08:44- At the time, there was no specific - law to deal with the matter.
0:08:45 > 0:08:48- That made the process - of getting justice much tougher.
0:08:49 > 0:08:52- Everyone does it, and you - don't think it'll happen to you.
0:08:53 > 0:08:56- But looking back now, - it was really stupid.
0:08:56 > 0:09:01- She won her case against her ex - under the Telecommunications Act.
0:09:01 > 0:09:04- Soon afterwards, - a new law was enacted.
0:09:04 > 0:09:07- Last April, - a new law came into force...
0:09:07 > 0:09:10- ..making it an offence - in England and Wales...
0:09:10 > 0:09:14- ..to share sexual images or videos - of people without their permission.
0:09:15 > 0:09:19- In the first eight months, police - in Wales investigated 56 such cases.
0:09:19 > 0:09:22- I spoke to the NSPCC - about the problem.
0:09:22 > 0:09:23- Hello, Lon.
0:09:23 > 0:09:25- Hello, Lon.- - Hello, Sion. Nice to meet you.
0:09:25 > 0:09:27- Come through.
0:09:28 > 0:09:32- They say that they have seen - an increase in cases recently.
0:09:32 > 0:09:37- Sharing personal sexual images - is a common part of growing up.
0:09:38 > 0:09:40- It's the norm for young people now.
0:09:41 > 0:09:46- The way we use the Internet, - mobiles, tablets and so on.
0:09:47 > 0:09:52- It's so quick to create and share - these photos and videos.
0:09:52 > 0:09:54- It's quite scary, actually.
0:09:55 > 0:09:58- In the NSPCC and Childline survey...
0:09:59 > 0:10:03- ..20% of those who admitted - to sending images...
0:10:03 > 0:10:07- ..said the image had been further - shared via the web or phone apps.
0:10:07 > 0:10:10- I think that they tend - to glamorize things.
0:10:11 > 0:10:15- With Snapchat and Instagram, - you can manipulate photos.
0:10:15 > 0:10:17- You can do anything to them.
0:10:17 > 0:10:22- It's quite gimmicky, - and that's scary as well.
0:10:22 > 0:10:27- Young people don't think - before they share them.
0:10:29 > 0:10:32- It's impossible to tell - where the images will end up.
0:10:32 > 0:10:36- The NSPCC warns people - to think twice before sending.
0:10:36 > 0:10:39- Consider before sending, please.
0:10:39 > 0:10:42- Once it's out there, - you'll never get it back.
0:10:45 > 0:10:47- This week, S4C has decided...
0:10:47 > 0:10:52- ..to show some programmes - with automatic on-screen subtitles.
0:10:52 > 0:10:55- But this has stirred up - a hornets' nest.
0:10:55 > 0:10:58- Some have decided - to boycott the channel for a week.
0:10:59 > 0:11:04- I sought Welsh students' opinions - at the Intercollegiate Eisteddfod.
0:11:05 > 0:11:09- I think it will encourage English - viewers to watch Welsh programmes.
0:11:10 > 0:11:12- The viewing figures would go up.
0:11:12 > 0:11:14- But as someone who watches S4C...
0:11:14 > 0:11:19- ..it's sometimes annoying - when you know what's being said...
0:11:19 > 0:11:21- ..and the subtitles come constantly.
0:11:22 > 0:11:23- There are pros and cons...
0:11:24 > 0:11:28- ..but hopefully, more will watch - and S4C's funding will increase.
0:11:28 > 0:11:30- I'm not that bothered...
0:11:30 > 0:11:34- ..but it will attract - more English viewers to the channel.
0:11:34 > 0:11:38- It can only be a positive decision, - in my opinion.
0:11:38 > 0:11:41- I think it's a difficult question.
0:11:41 > 0:11:45- It's good to attract people - who aren't fluent in Welsh...
0:11:45 > 0:11:46- ..to watch S4C.
0:11:46 > 0:11:50- But it is a Welsh channel, - and we should keep it Welsh.
0:11:50 > 0:11:52- It's the only channel we have.
0:11:52 > 0:11:57- I think it's a good idea for people - who can't speak Welsh to watch S4C.
0:11:58 > 0:12:01- It's a good way - to expand the audience...
0:12:01 > 0:12:05- ..and to invite more English - speakers to watch the channel.
0:12:05 > 0:12:10- But it does degrade Welsh speakers - by forcing us to watch subtitles.
0:12:10 > 0:12:11- We don't have a choice.
0:12:12 > 0:12:16- I think it's a good thing - to expand the audience for one week.
0:12:16 > 0:12:18- Anything more than that...
0:12:18 > 0:12:22- ..and it would spoil the experience - of watching Welsh TV.
0:12:22 > 0:12:24- That's all for part one.
0:12:24 > 0:12:27- In part two, how much do you know - about the European Union?
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0:12:35 > 0:12:36- Welcome back.
0:12:36 > 0:12:39- In June, - a referendum will be held...
0:12:39 > 0:12:42- ..to find out if we want to remain - in the European Union.
0:12:42 > 0:12:45- How much do you know - about the European Union...
0:12:45 > 0:12:48- ..and what effect - could this have on Wales?
0:12:49 > 0:12:53- The European Economic Community - was established in 1957...
0:12:53 > 0:12:56- ..as a way of keeping the peace - following WWII.
0:12:56 > 0:12:59- The United Kingdom - didn't join until 1973.
0:13:03 > 0:13:05- The European Union - makes its own laws...
0:13:05 > 0:13:09- ..and promotes cooperation and trade - between the members.
0:13:10 > 0:13:14- How much do Carmarthen students - know about the workings of the EU?
0:13:15 > 0:13:20- It's a very influential - group of countries...
0:13:21 > 0:13:23- ..and which has a lot of power.
0:13:26 > 0:13:28- Referendum?
0:13:29 > 0:13:31- That's all. I'm not too sure!
0:13:32 > 0:13:34- The stars on the flag.
0:13:36 > 0:13:39- United Nations.
0:13:40 > 0:13:42- Meetings. Government.
0:13:43 > 0:13:44- Money.
0:13:50 > 0:13:51- At the moment...
0:13:51 > 0:13:55- ..the 28 countries in the EU are - travelling in the same direction...
0:13:55 > 0:13:57- ..and following the same rules.
0:13:59 > 0:14:03- But two weeks ago, David Cameron - was allowed to get into First Class.
0:14:04 > 0:14:08- He wanted different rights for - the UK, separate from the others.
0:14:10 > 0:14:14- Cameron's deal means new rules - which limit benefits paid...
0:14:14 > 0:14:17- ..to immigrants - travelling to the UK.
0:14:17 > 0:14:21- It also allows Britain - to avoid any closer political union.
0:14:26 > 0:14:29- Last week, the UKIP Spring - Conference took place in Llandudno.
0:14:30 > 0:14:31- As you can imagine...
0:14:31 > 0:14:34- ..the new deal wasn't being welcomed - with open arms.
0:14:35 > 0:14:40- I wanted David Cameron - to come back with more powers.
0:14:41 > 0:14:44- I wanted him to change the amount - of money we put in to the EU.
0:14:44 > 0:14:47- We put in 55 million every day.
0:14:47 > 0:14:50- I wanted him to secure a reduction - in how much we put in.
0:14:50 > 0:14:52- Also, immigration control.
0:14:53 > 0:14:57- He didn't come back with anything - that people on the street wanted.
0:14:58 > 0:14:59- It was a sham.
0:15:00 > 0:15:02- Llyr Powell wants to leave the EU.
0:15:02 > 0:15:05- He believes Wales - would benefit financially...
0:15:06 > 0:15:08- ..without interference - from Brussels.
0:15:08 > 0:15:11- If we leave the European Union...
0:15:11 > 0:15:15- ..there will be more money available - to invest in health.
0:15:16 > 0:15:18- The farmers would have more money.
0:15:18 > 0:15:20- We could do so many things.
0:15:20 > 0:15:23- If we leave the European Union...
0:15:23 > 0:15:27- ..we can transfer powers - to the Assembly.
0:15:27 > 0:15:31- He feels that we would have better - control on how to spend our money...
0:15:32 > 0:15:34- ..if we came out of Europe.
0:15:36 > 0:15:41- When we talk about EU money, we must - remember that it's really our money.
0:15:41 > 0:15:45- They tell us what we can buy - with the money.
0:15:45 > 0:15:50- There are many restrictions - on what the money can be used for.
0:15:50 > 0:15:54- We can't invest the money - in the NHS or education.
0:15:54 > 0:15:59- With so many restrictions, we say - that if we leave, it's our money...
0:15:59 > 0:16:01- ..and we'll use it - where we think is fit.
0:16:06 > 0:16:09- In Cardiff, Aled Morgan Hughes - sees things differently...
0:16:09 > 0:16:11- ..and wants to stay in the EU.
0:16:13 > 0:16:17- It's economic factors which are - mainly responsible for my decision.
0:16:18 > 0:16:21- Wales as a whole benefits hugely - from the European Union.
0:16:21 > 0:16:26- That's every person in Wales. For - every 1 we put in, we get 40 out.
0:16:27 > 0:16:30- This is also true - in the agricultural sector.
0:16:30 > 0:16:35- We receive about 200 million - annually to assist our farmers.
0:16:35 > 0:16:38- It's economically vital - that we stay in the EU.
0:16:41 > 0:16:45- In last year's General Election, - a third of Welsh voters didn't vote.
0:16:45 > 0:16:49- Aled believes that the EU referendum - will generate a greater interest.
0:16:50 > 0:16:53- As was proved - in the Scottish referendum...
0:16:53 > 0:16:57- ..referenda excite people more - than Assembly elections.
0:16:58 > 0:17:01- Especially if it's something - important like the European Union.
0:17:02 > 0:17:05- People will take it for granted - that they want to be a part of it.
0:17:05 > 0:17:07- That will make them vote.
0:17:08 > 0:17:11- I'm not sure what will happen. - The polls are very close.
0:17:11 > 0:17:14- They are all about fifty-fifty.
0:17:14 > 0:17:19- That fact will motivate more people - to vote because of the uncertainty.
0:17:21 > 0:17:25- With less than four months to go - and the polls so close...
0:17:26 > 0:17:29- ..Aled says it will be - a highly-charged campaign.
0:17:29 > 0:17:33- I'm very unsure abut the outcome.
0:17:33 > 0:17:37- I strongly hope that we remain - a member of the European Union.
0:17:37 > 0:17:39- The polls are neck and neck.
0:17:40 > 0:17:44- I hope that at the end of the day, - as the referendum approaches...
0:17:44 > 0:17:48- ..people will realize that it's - too much of a risk to leave...
0:17:48 > 0:17:50- ..and they will vote - to stay in the EU.
0:17:53 > 0:17:56- After winning some special terms - for the UK...
0:17:56 > 0:18:00- ..the Prime Minister announced - that a referendum would be held...
0:18:00 > 0:18:01- ..on 23 June.
0:18:02 > 0:18:04- We will vote on whether - the United Kingdom...
0:18:04 > 0:18:07- ..should remain a member - of the European Union or not.
0:18:10 > 0:18:14- If Britain votes to leave, and our - carriages separate from the train...
0:18:15 > 0:18:16- ..will we prosper?
0:18:18 > 0:18:21- Or will we be left in the station?
0:18:24 > 0:18:29- The decision to stay or leave - has split the Conservative Party.
0:18:29 > 0:18:33- Guto has been to London to quiz - an MP who disagrees with his leader.
0:18:35 > 0:18:40- David Davies has been - a Conservative MP since 2005.
0:18:40 > 0:18:42- He wants to turn his back - on Brussels.
0:18:44 > 0:18:49- David Davies, MP for Monmouth. - Why do you want to leave the EU?
0:18:50 > 0:18:54- I think it's important - to have control over our laws...
0:18:54 > 0:18:57- ..our money and our borders.
0:18:57 > 0:19:02- The only way to do that is to vote - to leave the European Union.
0:19:03 > 0:19:08- But Wales benefits from hundreds - of millions of EU money every year.
0:19:09 > 0:19:13- Why should Wales vote - to leave the European Union?
0:19:13 > 0:19:14- It's not just about money...
0:19:15 > 0:19:17- ..but I don't accept the facts - in the question.
0:19:18 > 0:19:23- Britain puts in 20 billion - into the European Union.
0:19:23 > 0:19:27- We get 10 billion back - but if we voted to leave...
0:19:28 > 0:19:31- ..we could double - how much Wales receives.
0:19:31 > 0:19:36- At the moment, we pay in - twice as much as we get back.
0:19:36 > 0:19:41- Why risk losing this money for Wales - by voting to leave...
0:19:41 > 0:19:46- ..and just hoping Westminster - would give us the same amount?
0:19:46 > 0:19:50- MPs from every party - would be far more accountable...
0:19:50 > 0:19:55- ..than current Members - of the European Parliament.
0:19:55 > 0:19:59- Nobody knows who they are.
0:19:59 > 0:20:03- They don't have any influence over - the decisions of the Commissioners.
0:20:04 > 0:20:08- If we vote to leave, - we will win back those powers.
0:20:09 > 0:20:11- Surely it's a huge risk for Wales?
0:20:12 > 0:20:16- We would be throwing the money - we receive back to Brussels.
0:20:16 > 0:20:19- It's a big risk to stay in.
0:20:19 > 0:20:24- It's quite likely that Greece - will pull out of its bailout.
0:20:24 > 0:20:27- That will cost billions of pounds.
0:20:27 > 0:20:32- They have lost control - of European borders.
0:20:32 > 0:20:38- We have seen millions of young men - entering Europe illegally.
0:20:38 > 0:20:40- We don't have control of benefits.
0:20:40 > 0:20:45- We have to pay benefits to people - who don't even live in Britain.
0:20:46 > 0:20:49- If that wasn't true - we would have a lot more money.
0:20:49 > 0:20:52- The Prime Minister - and leader of your party...
0:20:52 > 0:20:57- ..has secured a deal that ensures - more control over benefits.
0:20:57 > 0:21:01- He asked for a deal regarding - benefits for immigrants...
0:21:02 > 0:21:04- ..but got almost nothing.
0:21:04 > 0:21:06- I support the Prime Minister.
0:21:06 > 0:21:10- He has done his best - but he came back empty-handed.
0:21:10 > 0:21:16- It's an example of the influence - we currently have in Europe.
0:21:16 > 0:21:19- We must have control - over what happens in Britain.
0:21:20 > 0:21:22- When policy affects Britain...
0:21:22 > 0:21:27- ..it's the elected politicians here - who should be making the decisions.
0:21:27 > 0:21:32- You disagree with the Prime Minister - who is leader of your party.
0:21:33 > 0:21:34- Are you worried...
0:21:34 > 0:21:38- ..that the European question - will tear your party apart?
0:21:38 > 0:21:43- At the moment, there are different - opinions in the Conservative Party.
0:21:43 > 0:21:46- The same is true in other parties, - like the Labour Party.
0:21:47 > 0:21:49- Your party in particular.
0:21:49 > 0:21:54- Many Labour voters - are worried about Europe.
0:21:54 > 0:21:58- Many people on the left - of the political spectrum...
0:21:58 > 0:22:00- ..will vote to leave the EU.
0:22:01 > 0:22:04- I'm happy to work with them, - with everyone, to leave.
0:22:05 > 0:22:11- If, as you hope, Britain votes - to leave the EU in June...
0:22:11 > 0:22:16- ..will that mean the end of David - Cameron's leadership of the party...
0:22:16 > 0:22:19- ..and his tenure as Prime Minister?
0:22:19 > 0:22:20- We have to be calm.
0:22:20 > 0:22:23- It will take a few years...
0:22:23 > 0:22:27- ..to negotiate a new system.
0:22:27 > 0:22:31- A system in which we can deal - with Europe, trade with Europe...
0:22:31 > 0:22:33- ..and travel within Europe...
0:22:33 > 0:22:38- ..but in which we can make - our own laws here in Britain.
0:22:38 > 0:22:40- David Davies, thank you.
0:22:40 > 0:22:41- David Davies, thank you.- - Thank you.
0:22:44 > 0:22:46- That's all for this evening.
0:22:46 > 0:22:50- Next week, we'll investigate - strong drugs which treat acne...
0:22:50 > 0:22:54- ..and speak to one girl who - suffered horrendous side effects.
0:22:54 > 0:22:55- Hacio, next Thursday.
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