:00:00. > :00:00.person was found dead and many others were severely dehydrated when
:00:00. > :00:13.they were discovered on Saturday. Now on BBC News, it's time for
:00:14. > :00:16.Hardtalk. The Hamas`Israel ceasefire has allowed the cost of the
:00:17. > :00:24.offensive to be evaluated, both in terms of lives lost and to
:00:25. > :00:32.facilities. Almost 2,000 people died, most of them civilians. My
:00:33. > :00:36.guest today is Mads Gilbert, a Norwegian doctor who has returned
:00:37. > :00:44.from Gaza, where he works as a volunteer at Gaza's main hospital,
:00:45. > :00:52.the Al`Shifa Hospital. He is also an outspoken activist at the heart of
:00:53. > :00:53.the Palestinian cause. Does this interfere with his work as a medic
:00:54. > :01:22.and a humanitarian? Welcome to the programme. Give us a
:01:23. > :01:33.brief portrait of a typical 24`hour day at the hospital in Gaza over the
:01:34. > :01:42.last few weeks? That should be given by one of the Palestinian doctors,
:01:43. > :01:46.nurses or volunteers, not me. I will try to give you an impression. They
:01:47. > :01:49.have been there the whole time. We could hear the bombs falling, we
:01:50. > :01:52.could see more or less the direction of them, we could hear the
:01:53. > :01:55.ambulances and the cars come running in, and then there would be a huge
:01:56. > :01:58.caseload of mass casualties every time, coming in. 40 to 400 people.
:01:59. > :02:02.Children, adults, women ` civilians all of them. Bleeding. Some of them
:02:03. > :02:07.are seriously injured. Some of them are dying, actually. Some of them
:02:08. > :02:12.only have small wounds. You have to sort them between injured and
:02:13. > :02:14.critically injured. And then the senior surgeons have to find out
:02:15. > :02:19.which patients need life`saving immediate surgery and this is
:02:20. > :02:22.extremely demanding. You are literally trying to decide who to
:02:23. > :02:26.help, who might live and who might die? Yes, because we do not have the
:02:27. > :02:33.capacity to treat everybody and you have to choose those who have a
:02:34. > :02:36.chance of surviving. And this hospital, along with the rest of the
:02:37. > :02:48.healthcare system in Gaza, is suffering severely from the seven
:02:49. > :02:50.years of siege and blockade. They block everything from drugs,
:02:51. > :02:53.equipment, modern machinery, even trolleys and respirators to treat a
:02:54. > :02:56.patient with. It is an extremely demanding situation. In a disaster
:02:57. > :02:59.situation, you expect the hospitals to take care of this but in Gaza,
:03:00. > :03:07.the hospitals are also disaster zones. You have just returned from
:03:08. > :03:10.Gaza. You were preparing a report from the UNWRA. You talk about the
:03:11. > :03:13.almost inhuman workload on the staff, the doctors, the nurses, the
:03:14. > :03:22.ambulance drivers. Can you give us an idea of the pressure they are
:03:23. > :03:25.under? They are in a double role because they are inhabitants of Gaza
:03:26. > :03:28.and their homes are being bombed, their families are being injured and
:03:29. > :03:32.killed and on top of that, they have not been paid for the last year due
:03:33. > :03:39.to the dispute between the Israeli politics of... Not allowing the
:03:40. > :03:44.Palestinians to pay these so`called Hamas` employed staff in the
:03:45. > :03:48.healthcare system from 2006. So, they are working for nothing. For
:03:49. > :03:50.the last three months, they have not had their salaries. And this is
:03:51. > :03:55.extremely demanding. They are running triple shifts. They are
:03:56. > :03:58.exhausted but they stand tall. They are extremely courageous, I would
:03:59. > :04:03.say. They stand tall and they do not leave. And some of them, painfully
:04:04. > :04:08.enough, have their own family members coming in. Brothers or
:04:09. > :04:12.children, God forbid, dead or dying in some instances. All the time,
:04:13. > :04:18.they are listening to the local radio to monitor where the bombs are
:04:19. > :04:26.falling. A very high professional level. The Palestinians are known to
:04:27. > :04:29.be well educated. So is the healthcare system. But what could
:04:30. > :04:32.have been a state`of`the`art university hospital in Al`Shifa is a
:04:33. > :04:34.very worn out and exhausted hospital today. Talking about
:04:35. > :04:37.state`of`the`art, you are from Norway, the world's richest country.
:04:38. > :04:40.You have worked there. How do you feel when you operate in these
:04:41. > :04:44.depleted and difficult circumstances in Gaza when you know exactly what
:04:45. > :04:56.you could do to help patients if you had the means? First of all, I feel
:04:57. > :04:59.this dismay that I share with the Palestinians and many people that
:05:00. > :05:02.all of this could have been avoided if the bombing had stopped and the
:05:03. > :05:05.siege had been lifted. All of this is unnecessary suffering. The
:05:06. > :05:08.killing, the death, the injuries. And I feel that this is not a
:05:09. > :05:13.natural disaster, this is not an earthquake or a tsunami. This is all
:05:14. > :05:15.planned and man`made, which makes it extremely difficult on an emotional
:05:16. > :05:21.and moral level and also on a professional medical level to accept
:05:22. > :05:28.all of the suffering. So many of them are children. One third of the
:05:29. > :05:32.injured and killed are children. I have never seen so many injured and
:05:33. > :05:35.dying children in my life and that alone is a huge emotional toll on
:05:36. > :05:44.any medical system, let alone a system that is so drained of
:05:45. > :05:47.resources. You have made a direct appeal to President Obama. You have
:05:48. > :05:51.said: "Mr Obama, do you have a heart? I invite you to spend just
:05:52. > :05:53.one night, one night with us in Al`Shifa Hospital and I'm convinced
:05:54. > :05:57.100% that this would change history." What do you mean by that?
:05:58. > :06:00.Of course Mr Obama has a heart. I think the distance between the sharp
:06:01. > :06:02.end of the military solution of conflicts, the suffering on the
:06:03. > :06:06.ground among civilian people like you and me, that distance has become
:06:07. > :06:11.so far that politicians are never confronted with that amount of
:06:12. > :06:15.suffering. But they are aware of what is going on. Mr Obama has said
:06:16. > :06:33.he is deeply concerned about the risk of further escalation and the
:06:34. > :06:36.loss of more innocent life. A US State Department spokesman Jen Psaki
:06:37. > :06:38.has said of one Israeli shelling of the UN facility that they were
:06:39. > :06:42.appalled by this disgraceful shelling. She said the suspicion
:06:43. > :06:45.that militants were operating nearby does not justify strikes that put at
:06:46. > :06:48.risk the lives of so many innocent civilians. Why do you feel that the
:06:49. > :06:50.suffering you have described is not sufficiently acknowledged by
:06:51. > :06:53.international leaders? That statement was from only one part of
:06:54. > :06:56.the mouth. The other part was that we will support Israel with more
:06:57. > :07:00.weapons and more money and the military support from the US to
:07:01. > :07:03.Israel with weapons and money is at the base of this situation. It is a
:07:04. > :07:05.very double`tongued statement. It is correct that these are gross
:07:06. > :07:08.violations of international law and they should be stopped by the
:07:09. > :07:12.international community and I think that as a doctor and as a humid
:07:13. > :07:22.being, the Israeli impunity is a huge moral problem for the US in
:07:23. > :07:26.particular. `` human. It is not just the US but the EU and the UN all say
:07:27. > :07:29.that Israel has a right to self`defence and that if there are
:07:30. > :07:31.rockets fired from Gaza into Israel, which terrorises the population
:07:32. > :07:38.there and indeed a handful of civilians have died... The vast
:07:39. > :07:40.majority of the 70, of course, were Israeli soldiers, but what the
:07:41. > :07:43.Israelis say when civilian infrastructure
:07:44. > :07:46."Look, the militants operate from these civilian buildings." Can
:07:47. > :07:48.be certain, for example, having worked at Al`Shifa Hospital, that
:07:49. > :07:59.there were not militants operating from there? I have not been in every
:08:00. > :08:02.corner of the hospital, but I have been there for many years and I have
:08:03. > :08:05.not seen any militants in the hospital. I know that the
:08:06. > :08:08.Palestinians know the rules of the war quite well. All this rhetoric
:08:09. > :08:11.about Israel having the right to protect itself... When you are an
:08:12. > :08:14.occupant and you are shooting at the occupied people, the occupied people
:08:15. > :08:17.have a right to defend themselves. It is taking language hostage, also.
:08:18. > :08:26.The core principles of international law are being turned around. I think
:08:27. > :08:29.that the Palestinians, and I do not support Hamas or Fatah or any
:08:30. > :08:35.faction, I support the Palestinian people and their right resist
:08:36. > :08:40.occupation, like we did... `` right to resist. By firing rockets? They
:08:41. > :08:43.have to use the weapons they see fit. By firing rockets? You think
:08:44. > :08:46.that is OK for them to resist occupation in that way? I condemn
:08:47. > :08:51.any targeting of civilian targets be it in Gaza or in Israel. There have
:08:52. > :08:55.so far been killed almost 1,900 Palestinians and three civilian
:08:56. > :09:01.Israelis. That says everything about the disproportionality of the use of
:09:02. > :09:04.weapons. It is not the Palestinians who are killing the Israelis. It is
:09:05. > :09:10.actually the Israelis who are killing Palestinians by the
:09:11. > :09:13.thousands. The Israeli point is always, "We regret the loss of
:09:14. > :09:16.civilian life but we have to target these militants who fire rockets at
:09:17. > :09:19.us and they do use civilian infrastructure." The UN has itself
:09:20. > :09:34.confirmed that UN schools were used by militants. Which I have
:09:35. > :09:38.condemned, which everybody condemns. But that is not the big picture,
:09:39. > :09:40.that is not the overall picture. One Israeli official says that
:09:41. > :09:43.downstairs in your hospital, there is a Hamas command and control
:09:44. > :09:48.centre, and that Hamas leaders are hiding there. No reporter is allowed
:09:49. > :09:50.to go anywhere downstairs. They are only allowed to work upstairs, take
:09:51. > :09:57.pictures of casualties, the pictures that Hamas wants them to take. We
:09:58. > :10:01.heard that in 2009. It was used as a threat to get us out of the
:10:02. > :10:08.hospital. We heard it in 2012 and now in 2014. If they have proof, why
:10:09. > :10:10.do they not show the proof? These are only allegations and Israeli
:10:11. > :10:15.intelligence is very efficient in showing photos and proof. So far, it
:10:16. > :10:19.has not been shown. I have not seen with my own eyes armed militia in
:10:20. > :10:25.the hospital where I work or any other hospital. The point is that
:10:26. > :10:28.when you are living in Gaza and you are going to exercise your right to
:10:29. > :10:34.resist occupation, from where will you do it? If Israel wants a pure
:10:35. > :10:38.military fight, why don't they lift the siege and let the civilians flee
:10:39. > :10:43.or leave Gaza? The point about Gaza is that nobody is allowed to leave
:10:44. > :10:46.and it's such a condensed place. And during the last attack, 44% of the
:10:47. > :10:52.territory was taken and declared as a security zone. And you pack 1.8
:10:53. > :10:55.million people into that small space, there will always be a
:10:56. > :11:00.vicinity of something which could be defined as civilian. That does not
:11:01. > :11:06.mean, and I do not defend any action which is using the civilians, of
:11:07. > :11:13.course. You have made your opinion very well`known. I want to put this
:11:14. > :11:17.point to you that... Do you somehow blur the line between humanitarian
:11:18. > :11:20.and political fields? You have been quoted as saying of the Gaza
:11:21. > :11:29.situation: "My appeal is to not send bandages or syringes or medical
:11:30. > :11:33.teams. The most important medical thing you can do is force Israel to
:11:34. > :11:36.stop the bombing and lift the siege of Gaza." As a doctor, shouldn't you
:11:37. > :11:39.be more concerned with treating your patients in the short term, in the
:11:40. > :11:44.medium term, trying to get them better and leave the politics to
:11:45. > :11:47.others? Medicine and politics are Siamese twins. Medicine and public
:11:48. > :11:54.health are all about lifting the living conditions of people. Living
:11:55. > :11:57.conditions are about water and food. Human security. It is about having
:11:58. > :12:01.an education, a house and a life. That is about health. Everything in
:12:02. > :12:04.Gaza that is threatening public health is concerned with the
:12:05. > :12:08.occupation and the bombing and as a doctor, I have to not only treat but
:12:09. > :12:11.I have to look at the prevention of what I'm treating. Prevention is
:12:12. > :12:14.always better than cure, as we know, and the overall and overruling and
:12:15. > :12:17.only causative factor of all the injuries we have seen in the
:12:18. > :12:40.hospital is the Israeli bombing and the siege. I cannot... Be a doctor
:12:41. > :12:42.without addressing the political preconditions for all the injuries
:12:43. > :12:45.and suffering. You have made that point clear. You have said, "No
:12:46. > :12:51.siege, no tunnels," and "no occupation, no rockets." That is
:12:52. > :12:55.what you have said. That's a good slogan! Shimon Peres stepped down as
:12:56. > :12:58.Israeli president last month. He said last week that the Israelis
:12:59. > :13:03.withdrew from Gaza and handed over to the Palestinians a free and open
:13:04. > :13:05.Gaza. They could have developed it for tourism, fishing, agriculture,
:13:06. > :13:14.or tourism, he said. "We thought, why are you shooting at us?" So,
:13:15. > :13:17.first of all, Gaza was free. There are no Jews living there. But what
:13:18. > :13:21.happens when the settlers left? Who says there was no occupation? The
:13:22. > :13:32.Israeli government has complete control of the airspace, the... But
:13:33. > :13:38.no siege. There was no siege originally. The siege came in 2006.
:13:39. > :13:41.When the Palestinian people in a duly organised democratic election,
:13:42. > :13:45.the first in any Arab state by the way, which was actually asked to be
:13:46. > :13:47.organised by the quartet of Russia, the UN, EU and the US... They
:13:48. > :13:51.organised the election, Hamas won the election. They tried to make a
:13:52. > :13:54.unified government. It was shot down. Then came the siege and it was
:13:55. > :14:00.increased and increased and increased as a collective
:14:01. > :14:03.punishment. But the point that Shimon Peres is making is that when
:14:04. > :14:06.the Jewish settlers withdrew from Gaza and Gaza was left open and
:14:07. > :14:08.there was not a siege imposed straightaway, instantly, it was
:14:09. > :14:11.clear that the Palestinians in Gaza, at least some of them, the
:14:12. > :14:20.militants, were not going to leave Israelis alone. I have to disagree
:14:21. > :14:27.with him, the late president... Former president. He is still with
:14:28. > :14:30.us. Former president, yes. Sorry. It was still full Israeli control with
:14:31. > :14:33.the airspace, with the water, with the borders and with the electronic
:14:34. > :14:39.space. The Palestinians in Gaza have never been... The occupation
:14:40. > :14:47.remains. It was the siege, I was pointing out. So, why did the siege
:14:48. > :14:50.come? It was a collective punishment because they elected somebody they
:14:51. > :14:53.did not want. There are now efforts from the international community and
:14:54. > :14:57.the UN does say that the siege has impoverished the people of Gaza and
:14:58. > :15:00.they are working to see if it can be lifted as some kind of political
:15:01. > :15:03.settlement. But what about the rockets? You say, "No occupation, no
:15:04. > :15:07.rockets." But not all Palestinians want to fire rockets. President
:15:08. > :15:09.Mahmoud Abbas said on Palestinian television in July, without
:15:10. > :15:14.explicitly naming Hamas, "What are you trying to achieve by sending
:15:15. > :15:16.rockets? We prefer to fight with wisdom and politics." The
:15:17. > :15:35.Palestinians do not want rockets. I was in Beirut in 1982 as a medical
:15:36. > :15:39.doctor during the Israeli invasion and siege and bombing of Beirut.
:15:40. > :15:42.Then it was the PLO and Yasser Arafat who were the terrorists. They
:15:43. > :15:45.were going to be killed. Like they are now going to kill the leadership
:15:46. > :15:48.of Hamas and destroy all their structures. Like they wanted with
:15:49. > :15:50.PLO in the 1980s. Anybody who opposes the grand plan of the
:15:51. > :15:56.Israeli political government today, political Zionism, will be stamped
:15:57. > :15:58.as a terrorist and sort of outlawed. The Palestinians have been under
:15:59. > :16:08.strict, hard, brutal Israeli rule and oppression for the last 70
:16:09. > :16:11.years. They have the right to defend themselves. With rockets? But the
:16:12. > :16:17.point I'm making... With a slingshot. The Palestinians you're
:16:18. > :16:21.talking about, you're talking about the militants. So when you say you
:16:22. > :16:24.support the Palestinian cause, you are supporting the militant cause
:16:25. > :16:27.and not the Palestinian cause. I tell you what else President Abbas
:16:28. > :16:30.said. He called on all Palestinian factions to hold fire. He said, in
:16:31. > :16:33.the interests of the Palestinian people and their security, and to
:16:34. > :16:37.prevent giving Israel to have any pretext to continue its aggression
:16:38. > :16:40.on Gaza. Every time there is a ceasefire, like after 2012, the 2012
:16:41. > :16:49.attack, the preconditions for the ceasefire were broken by the
:16:50. > :16:54.Israelis. They did that in 2008 in November. It was a long lasting
:16:55. > :16:57.ceasefire with nobody killed on either side. The following ceasefire
:16:58. > :17:03.in 2012 was broken and the siege was not lifted. The Palestinians have
:17:04. > :17:06.good reason to be very suspicious about these preconditions. They do
:17:07. > :17:11.not include the simple ten points that they have now as preconditions
:17:12. > :17:14.for a ceasefire. A 10`year ceasefire is to lift the siege, to open the
:17:15. > :17:24.ports, open the borders and give people a normal life in Gaza. How
:17:25. > :17:28.can I define which weapons the Palestinians should use to defend
:17:29. > :17:32.themselves? This is a defence. That is up to them. I don't support any
:17:33. > :17:37.militant faction or any aggressive action. That is not the point. The
:17:38. > :17:43.point is that everything is turned upside down all the time. On the
:17:44. > :17:47.ground, it is Israel who is attacking the Palestinians. Israel
:17:48. > :17:52.says they are defending themselves. I know. That's the narrative of
:17:53. > :17:54.Israel. There is another narrative. That is the narrative of the
:17:55. > :18:00.occupied people, the Palestinian people. I, for one, have seen and
:18:01. > :18:03.lived that narrative. I see why they are defending their women, their
:18:04. > :18:09.children and their habitats and their communities. I am making the
:18:10. > :18:12.point that if you say, no occupation, no rockets, there is a
:18:13. > :18:14.vast number of mainstream Fatah faction that President Mahmoud Abbas
:18:15. > :18:21.leads which actually says, don't fire the rockets in our name, number
:18:22. > :18:24.one, we prefer peaceful means. And secondly, don't do that because it
:18:25. > :18:30.gives Israel a pretext to continue their aggression on Gaza. Let me ask
:18:31. > :18:32.you this, though, Dr Mads Gilbert, because you have worked with the
:18:33. > :18:37.Palestinian health sector since 1981. For the last 17 years, you've
:18:38. > :18:39.been visiting Gaza regularly, helping them build up their health
:18:40. > :18:43.and infrastructure, helping with the training, the treating of people, as
:18:44. > :18:45.you said, you worked with the Palestinians in refugee Camps,
:18:46. > :18:54.hospitals, during the conflict when Israel was in Lebanon. Why is the
:18:55. > :18:59.Palestinian cause so important to you when there is conflict and
:19:00. > :19:05.suffering all over the world? Why is it the Palestinian one? I have been
:19:06. > :19:07.working in Burma and Cambodia and Angola with different medical
:19:08. > :19:10.projects in the same context of solidarity medicine. But once you
:19:11. > :19:13.get to know the Palestinian cause and the Palestinian history, it
:19:14. > :19:28.tends to affect you in a very personal and moral way. I think the
:19:29. > :19:34.world is belied to when it comes to who is right and who is wrong. I
:19:35. > :19:37.think that once you sit down and you really get into the history of these
:19:38. > :19:40.dispossessed people and all the betrayal and suffering and attacks
:19:41. > :19:43.and losses they have had, and the overall ruling bodies of the world,
:19:44. > :19:53.the United States, EU, Israel, they're treating them in such an
:19:54. > :19:57.inhumane way. The occupation is recognised. The occupied territories
:19:58. > :20:00.are recognised as being occupied. It is recognised, but nobody is doing
:20:01. > :20:04.anything with it. Nothing happens. It is getting worse and worse by the
:20:05. > :20:15.day. Now I sense in Al`Shifa with my colleagues, a change of opinion. A
:20:16. > :20:18.change of mental attitude. They say that they would rather die now than
:20:19. > :20:23.to get another ceasefire that would cheat them and they would be pushed
:20:24. > :20:28.further down in the mud. They don't want to live as slaves in their own
:20:29. > :20:34.country. The perception that this is only Israel against Hamas is totally
:20:35. > :20:38.wrong. This is Palestinian people more united than ever before. And
:20:39. > :20:41.mind you, the coalition government now was the pretext for the attack
:20:42. > :20:47.on Gaza. I think and many analysts think that latest war was nothing to
:20:48. > :20:50.do with the rockets. It had to do with the fact that... Hamas and
:20:51. > :20:56.Fatah had a new unity government, seven
:20:57. > :20:58.years after 2006. Israel do not want a unified Palestine. That is
:20:59. > :21:01.something that some Palestinians have said. Listening to you, Dr
:21:02. > :21:04.Gilbert, it is clear that you are political activist, but does that
:21:05. > :21:09.interfere with your work as a humanitarian as a medic? Take, for
:21:10. > :21:12.instance, Medecins Sans Frontiers, they operate in so many difficult
:21:13. > :21:15.situations all over the world, and what they said to HardTalk is that
:21:16. > :21:18.they do routinely speak out about violations whenever we see them, but
:21:19. > :21:21.we do not propose solutions or take an overt political position because
:21:22. > :21:31.that could potentially cut them off from accessing vulnerable people in
:21:32. > :21:34.certain areas. That kind of approach is very different from yours. They
:21:35. > :21:39.have a point, don't they? Absolutely. Like the Red Cross and
:21:40. > :21:43.IRCR, they want to be on both sides. That's fine. I'm not. I mean, I want
:21:44. > :21:46.to make it totally clear, if I were ever exposed to an Israeli general
:21:47. > :21:48.being injured or an Israeli soldier, of course that individual patient
:21:49. > :21:54.would get exactly the same treatment as anybody else. That is ethically
:21:55. > :21:59.clear. My decision is before that. I choose to go to Gaza and not to
:22:00. > :22:05.Israel. I have respect for the Medecins Sans Frontieres and ICRC. I
:22:06. > :22:07.have chosen another way of working. I think that the people fighting
:22:08. > :22:16.against occupation and oppression, they need solidarity and more than
:22:17. > :22:19.lip service. But you have paid a price, haven't you, for being
:22:20. > :22:23.outspoken in the past? And it's something that I have to bring up.
:22:24. > :22:26.What a lot of people know about you is that after the attacks in
:22:27. > :22:29.September 11, 2001, you made some comments that you have since really
:22:30. > :22:33.said that you no longer support. Just to remind you what you said at
:22:34. > :22:36.the time about the September 11 attacks. You said, I am upset by the
:22:37. > :22:41.terrorist attack, but I am at least as upset over the suffering that the
:22:42. > :22:45.US has caused. It is in this context that 5,000 dead has been seen. If
:22:46. > :22:49.the US government has a legitimate right to bomb and kill civilians in
:22:50. > :22:52.Iraq, the oppressed have a moral right to attack the US. And you were
:22:53. > :22:56.criticised for sounding as though you were condoning the September 11
:22:57. > :23:00.attacks. You have paid a price for being outspoken. I have denounced
:23:01. > :23:07.the interview four, five, six, seven times, and the content of it. I
:23:08. > :23:11.denounce and I absolutely condemn any attack on civilian targets from
:23:12. > :23:14.anybody. So that is totally clear. With the power distribution in the
:23:15. > :23:17.world today, poor people, not only in Palestine but other parts of the
:23:18. > :23:20.global south, they are suffering from a new colonial wave of
:23:21. > :23:29.oppression, which is coming precisely from the United States.
:23:30. > :23:37.They support the Israeli colonial project. I think we need to speak up
:23:38. > :23:41.against that. Because at the end of the day, if we allow power to define
:23:42. > :23:44.right, if we allow might to be the tool of solving conflicts, which are
:23:45. > :23:55.just in its cause, then we are all degenerating the kind of organised
:23:56. > :23:57.world that we try to create. Respect for international law, totally
:23:58. > :24:00.omitted by Israel, respect for the UN Charter, totally omitted by
:24:01. > :24:07.Israel, we need all of us to stand up against this degeneration of the
:24:08. > :24:09.international order, I think. Dr Mads Gilbert, thank you for coming
:24:10. > :24:45.on HardTalk. Good morning. The cold air is with
:24:46. > :24:53.us at the moment. There is a giant over head however. `` sunshine. )
:24:54. > :25:02.sunny weather around for most. Showers in fewer number than in the
:25:03. > :25:03.past few days. High pressure to the west draws in chilly wind and it