:00:10. > :00:14.Hello and welcome to BBC Parliament live coverage of the House of
:00:15. > :00:17.Commons. At half past three David Cameron will make a statement to MPs
:00:18. > :00:21.on the deal reached with European Union leaders on reforming the terms
:00:22. > :00:27.of the UK's membership of the EU. That agreement pave the way for the
:00:28. > :00:30.out referendum on the 23rd of June. Mr Cameron announced the date on
:00:31. > :00:40.Saturday when he returned from Brussels. The Prime Minister will
:00:41. > :00:49.make the case for the EU UK to Burbank. Such is the justice
:00:50. > :00:51.secretary and the work and pensions Secretary. The Prime Minister
:00:52. > :00:57.statement on the EU will be repeated and debated in the House of Lords as
:00:58. > :01:00.well. Member to join me for a round-up of the days debate about
:01:01. > :01:04.the EU in both houses of parliament at 11 o'clock this evening. We start
:01:05. > :01:26.this question to the home Secretary May.
:01:27. > :01:36.Order! Order! Questions to the Secretary of State for the Home
:01:37. > :01:40.Department. Question one Mr Speaker. Thank you, the investigator and
:01:41. > :01:43.Powers bill has been in close consultation with the industry. The
:01:44. > :01:48.cost of the public for implement the provisions will continue to be
:01:49. > :01:55.refined as we hope more detailed vote come. They can meet the costs
:01:56. > :01:58.themselves. Full cost recovery will reply to operational cost including
:01:59. > :02:04.those associated with new obligations under the bill. Thank
:02:05. > :02:06.you Mr Speaker, the science and technology committee warned that the
:02:07. > :02:16.bill of risk undermining the start we performing tech sector. Will the
:02:17. > :02:21.Secretary of State and sure as that the UK businesses will not be placed
:02:22. > :02:28.at a commercial disadvantage to overseas competitors? I can assure
:02:29. > :02:32.the gentleman that. As I said and my answer to his initial question, we
:02:33. > :02:39.will be ensuring that the full cost recovery replies to operational cost
:02:40. > :02:42.for any companies who have, except for notices issued to them. What is
:02:43. > :02:45.clear is that that is what we have done as the government in the past,
:02:46. > :02:52.that is the privileged governments have done and we will continue its.
:02:53. > :02:56.Was the home secretary look carefully at the recommendations of
:02:57. > :03:00.the joint committee in regards to but recognition of the Internet. We
:03:01. > :03:04.were clear that greater clarity is needed on deafness in order to be
:03:05. > :03:08.able to allow the private sector to fully cost there for proposals. I
:03:09. > :03:13.think the right honourable gentleman, those honourable members
:03:14. > :03:17.and any other place to set on that committee and who did an excellent
:03:18. > :03:23.job in producing their reports, a very well thought through and
:03:24. > :03:32.careful report. We will look very carefully at the issue. We are
:03:33. > :03:38.looking awfully on all committees. We will bring forward a revised bill
:03:39. > :03:43.proposals in due course. On the specific issue of private
:03:44. > :03:47.businesses, could be home secretary outlines what recent discussions she
:03:48. > :03:53.or her ministers have had with the devolved ministrations about that
:03:54. > :03:57.particular aspect? Discussions with devolved ministrations have been
:03:58. > :04:01.going on throughout the preparation of the initial draft bill, and
:04:02. > :04:04.indeed have continued and will continue. Also, but will also
:04:05. > :04:09.continue its discussions between ministers and officials and the
:04:10. > :04:14.companies and private room at private businesses themselves.
:04:15. > :04:19.Question number two Mr Speaker. With the mission was a speaker I will
:04:20. > :04:23.answer questions two and ten on the order paper together. The minimum
:04:24. > :04:27.income threshold of ?18,600 for sponsoring a partner under the
:04:28. > :04:32.family immigration roles, and so is that couples wishing to establish
:04:33. > :04:35.the family life in the UK do not place burdens on the taxpayer and
:04:36. > :04:42.hub motor integration. It is being considered by the courts and upheld
:04:43. > :04:46.by the court of appeals. The Low the welfare of immigrants has said that
:04:47. > :04:54.these rules discriminately affecting women. 25% get less than 18,600
:04:55. > :04:58.compared to 75% of men. This gives young people it is evident as well.
:04:59. > :05:04.What actual the home Secretary take to reduce these on sale rules? I
:05:05. > :05:08.would say that the threshold was set as advice of the migration advisory
:05:09. > :05:12.committee to look very carefully on the levels of income and terms of
:05:13. > :05:22.not being a bargain on the taxpayer. The gross median and Scotland in
:05:23. > :05:24.2014 racks at 21,725 higher than the threshold. This of legal challenge
:05:25. > :05:33.has been raised by the course of Appeal. The threshold was upheld.
:05:34. > :05:36.Thinking you Mr Speaker, the Secretary of State will see a story
:05:37. > :05:42.reported by the BBC this morning where she fled the area and gave
:05:43. > :05:45.birth to her son in the UK. Her husband a Syrian national is unable
:05:46. > :05:50.to join the meeting because they cannot afford the fees of these. Can
:05:51. > :05:54.Secretary of State tell us with his British nationals should go to enter
:05:55. > :05:59.her family life. Her husband home country of Syria? There are various
:06:00. > :06:04.different routes that could be available. We have the family
:06:05. > :06:07.reunion and route that can apply and circumstances. I'm not familiar with
:06:08. > :06:13.all the us is that he highlights. Equally, the government is in
:06:14. > :06:17.respect for uncertainties for the protection of the children. This is
:06:18. > :06:20.considered by the court and upheld. That gave the point made so
:06:21. > :06:25.eloquently by my Honorable friend about not being a burden on the
:06:26. > :06:29.taxpayer. To what extent do we take into account, charges made by other
:06:30. > :06:35.countries, two British nationals hoping to emigrate to those
:06:36. > :06:39.countries? I say, my honourable friend makes a point on different
:06:40. > :06:43.immigration systems and different parts of the world. Obviously we
:06:44. > :06:46.have taken advice on the migration advisory committee looking at cost
:06:47. > :06:51.and look at those pardons to see that someone does not place a burden
:06:52. > :06:59.on the UK taxpayer. But his odyssey for other countries to assess what
:07:00. > :07:03.is appropriate and their own system. The financial threshold family visas
:07:04. > :07:07.is causing particular distress to one of my constituents who cannot
:07:08. > :07:12.work the hours required because she is a carer for her vulnerable child.
:07:13. > :07:17.This means she is living without her husband and the Taliban without his
:07:18. > :07:21.father. Does the Minister acknowledged that he is at risk of
:07:22. > :07:29.creating a generation of children whose only contact with one of their
:07:30. > :07:34.parents will be via Skype? Now, I don't except the point the Honorable
:07:35. > :07:38.Lady makes. These issues of the welfare of the child are absolutely
:07:39. > :07:42.part of the consideration that the takes, this was a matter that was
:07:43. > :07:47.considered by the courts of the pale. And firmly upheld. I would say
:07:48. > :07:52.to the Honorable lady that when this issue of the -- all being said in
:07:53. > :07:56.November 2011, the migration advisory committee gave a lower
:07:57. > :08:01.threshold of 18,600 but equally advise the national could have been
:08:02. > :08:04.set at 25,000 700. The Government reflected in those circumstances and
:08:05. > :08:10.set it to level as it has done. That little has been upheld by the court.
:08:11. > :08:14.The Minister has mentioned the court of appeal but the matter is not
:08:15. > :08:17.entirely set from a legal point of view because this week the Supreme
:08:18. > :08:21.Court will hold the cases of two but is nationals who cannot meet these
:08:22. > :08:26.tough financial rules to allow their not EU spouses to come and live with
:08:27. > :08:32.them. The Honorable member for Hampstead and Coburn has mentioned
:08:33. > :08:35.that according to the children's Commissioner for England there are
:08:36. > :08:41.15,000 British children growing up via Skype. How can the Minister
:08:42. > :08:46.justified the stress and anxiety caused by these children -- to these
:08:47. > :08:51.children for the other flexible and unjust rule. I don't accept the
:08:52. > :08:56.characterisation that the honourable lady has proven to. I does recognise
:08:57. > :09:03.the number that she has proffered. I do say, that it is about good
:09:04. > :09:07.immigration, it is in relation to language in terms of mapping a
:09:08. > :09:09.bargain to the taxpayer but equally promoting integration. We believe
:09:10. > :09:17.the policy is ineffective in doing that. ... Last year the conservative
:09:18. > :09:24.call on the government to change these rules. Melting, the
:09:25. > :09:32.significant contribution made by millions of Brooke Britons living
:09:33. > :09:38.as the Minister of Rome as the opposition, will he at least listen
:09:39. > :09:43.to his own party and get rid of these rules was to scrimmage against
:09:44. > :09:46.hard-working families? I say again to the honourable lady that we do
:09:47. > :09:51.not believe that the rules are discriminatory, and the way that she
:09:52. > :09:54.is a just and characterises, the system is in place to ensure a good
:09:55. > :09:58.integration and is absurd that people are not a burden on the
:09:59. > :10:02.taxpayer. I thought that was something she would recognise as
:10:03. > :10:06.being a positive aspect of the policy to make sure that people can
:10:07. > :10:10.contribute and settle. The rules have been set, and upheld by the
:10:11. > :10:17.court and look at the two of underline those key things. With
:10:18. > :10:24.permission I will answer questions three and 16 on the order paper
:10:25. > :10:32.together. Border force carries out 100% of the tax. They deliver an
:10:33. > :10:40.effective and intelligent responses for a range of security threats.
:10:41. > :10:44.They used equipment and a range of search techniques. I think the home
:10:45. > :10:48.secretary for that answer but last of the birth of eminent fives were
:10:49. > :10:52.found in a container in my constituency, that came just three
:10:53. > :10:58.weeks after 20 immigrants were found of wear. Given that my local border
:10:59. > :11:01.forces are facing cuts, how can the secretary reassure me that these
:11:02. > :11:06.cuts are not damaging the safety and security? The approach that we are
:11:07. > :11:10.taking to these matters comes across in a number of ways. First of all,
:11:11. > :11:14.in relation to water forth, we are looking to edge does this
:11:15. > :11:18.technology, but also to an Benedike Howedes make sure they can operate
:11:19. > :11:23.successfully. It will be a much more intelligent lead approach. We can
:11:24. > :11:27.target what they need to be in accordance with the intelligence,
:11:28. > :11:32.and also this government has enhanced our ability to deal with
:11:33. > :11:37.organised crime. This is an issue that the national crime agency set
:11:38. > :11:42.up by the last Coalition government is taking very seriously and is
:11:43. > :11:50.acting on. Thank you, I have ten electronic passports case and my
:11:51. > :11:53.efficiency at the airport of my department is unable to tell me how
:11:54. > :11:57.many people travelled through. And how often they malfunction and how
:11:58. > :12:05.many were Texans they are. Does the home Secretary agree with me that
:12:06. > :12:10.the warning -- as identified by the office, this is one of them and it
:12:11. > :12:14.should be looked into? What I say is that I think that the increased
:12:15. > :12:20.number of each day for checking passports that we have is a good
:12:21. > :12:29.move. It's and hat security at our border. Thank you Mr Speaker, I have
:12:30. > :12:34.been trying to figure out how many people arrive at UK airports without
:12:35. > :12:37.valid travel documents. I'm very surprised that nobody seems to be
:12:38. > :12:41.able to give me an answer to this. Within minutes be able to give me an
:12:42. > :12:46.answer and if not hesitate to ask them to find out this important
:12:47. > :12:51.matter? I can tell my honourable friend that 18,000 individuals were
:12:52. > :12:54.refused at entry at the border in 2014 equity those who were
:12:55. > :12:57.travelling on an valid documentation. When somebody comes
:12:58. > :13:03.the UK border they are subjected to a range of tax we have offices at
:13:04. > :13:09.the border who trained and are able to detect forged documents and steps
:13:10. > :13:14.are being taken to intercept those individuals who don't have the
:13:15. > :13:20.correct documents of of a bit over at the border. And I congratulate
:13:21. > :13:23.the home Secretary are the words as he sat on the value of EU membership
:13:24. > :13:27.in terms of protecting the safety and security of this country. Can I
:13:28. > :13:33.ask her, even though that is the case and I agree with her could we
:13:34. > :13:38.have more specific focus on the quieter port, the quieter airports
:13:39. > :13:42.were the smuggling gangs know it is quieter? I indicated in my response
:13:43. > :13:46.earlier to one of his honourable friend, that the way border forces
:13:47. > :13:50.of prejudice as in a much intelligent lead basis, so that they
:13:51. > :13:54.can be flexible in relation to the staff that employed in different
:13:55. > :14:02.ports, professing recognising, that we don't eat as a focus on one or 24
:14:03. > :14:11.22 focus on a range of ports. -- focus on one or two ports. We need
:14:12. > :14:15.to rely on strong EU coordinated approach to security including at
:14:16. > :14:18.our borders and our ports. The Secretary of State and I know road
:14:19. > :14:23.that we rely on EU criminal justice and security measures. And those
:14:24. > :14:28.circumstances, I assume that the home office carried out a risk
:14:29. > :14:33.assessment on the impact of UK withdraw and the EU on security at
:14:34. > :14:38.ports. Recommended of the public who have not yet decided how to vote in
:14:39. > :14:42.the referendum access the conclusions? I have dissected say to
:14:43. > :14:49.the honourable gentleman, I'm not sure that his parliamentary language
:14:50. > :14:52.for me to repeat Mr Speaker. He can rest assured that argument there
:14:53. > :14:56.relations of these matters will be fully set out for people over the
:14:57. > :15:00.coming months. One of the arguments I put, he will have no because he
:15:01. > :15:06.was involved in this and a different capacity before he came into this
:15:07. > :15:09.chamber. It was around issues like the operation of various sizes and
:15:10. > :15:12.home affairs meshes is what we set out very clearly as the government
:15:13. > :15:20.by without the benefit was in being part of those measures. Tony Smith
:15:21. > :15:27.the interim head of the UK border for from 20 1213 said that a vote to
:15:28. > :15:33.leave the EU would pose a lot of issues for the border force who is
:15:34. > :15:36.already under huge pressure. In particular he highlighted the fact
:15:37. > :15:41.that the border for staff would have to carry out more attacks on EU
:15:42. > :15:46.citizens. Can the Secretary of State confirm that the border for school
:15:47. > :15:53.and the fact to face more cuts year on year for the foreseeable future?
:15:54. > :15:57.I'm happy to say that anybody who comes to the UK border, anybody
:15:58. > :16:01.receives a stringent checks at the UK border, we are doing that now on
:16:02. > :16:06.a much more intelligent lead basis, in terms of looking at individuals
:16:07. > :16:09.who may be of concern, and yes he is right that we have interactions with
:16:10. > :16:14.other member states and the European Union to the use of things like a
:16:15. > :16:18.system to identify people who are of concern who are coming across the
:16:19. > :16:23.border. Border forth and other operations are not about people, the
:16:24. > :16:26.about goods and bridges are good and illegal goods being brought into the
:16:27. > :16:30.UK. That is where the intelligence led approach can be helpful in
:16:31. > :16:39.identifying when the areas of concern and action being taken
:16:40. > :16:43.appropriate of properly. But commission on what action questions
:16:44. > :16:51.four and 14 on the order paper. Crime commissioners, sorry for and
:16:52. > :16:53.13. Crime commissioners are providing a comfortable position and
:16:54. > :16:59.making a real difference to policing locally. There has been a reduction
:17:00. > :17:19.in crime and more than a quarter sensor and seduction. -- production.
:17:20. > :17:25.There is already good process of scrutiny that is available through
:17:26. > :17:35.the piece and crime panels, for looking at any potential crime that
:17:36. > :17:43.police may have. That process it is enshrined and is being taken. What I
:17:44. > :17:47.do is when any area is looking at the potential for roles, for such as
:17:48. > :17:51.we have in the greater Manchester area in relation to peace and crime
:17:52. > :17:58.commissioner with the productive mayor of that area. There is full
:17:59. > :18:05.consideration of all the aspects of the issue to ensure that going ahead
:18:06. > :18:09.they can give it to do so properly without conflict of interest as
:18:10. > :18:15.ensuring that the best services delivered. Thank you Mr Speaker, my
:18:16. > :18:18.local police force received a positive inspection report from the
:18:19. > :18:24.home inspector. With my right honourable friend join me and please
:18:25. > :18:29.do the work of the constable at the conservative police and crime
:18:30. > :18:33.commissioner and their efforts to fight crime and specifically the
:18:34. > :18:40.chief constables national work on the prevent programme. I'm very
:18:41. > :18:44.happy to exit and congratulations I'm sure everybody across his house
:18:45. > :18:48.to the excellent work that is being done by the chief constable and the
:18:49. > :18:52.peace and crime commissioner. They have done an job and the crime
:18:53. > :18:56.commissioner will be stepping down. But I would like to thank them for
:18:57. > :19:01.the work that he has done over his first term at peace and crime
:19:02. > :19:05.commissioner. The main problem that the South Yorkshire police and crime
:19:06. > :19:16.commissioner faces is the shortfall in his budget was Roosevelt and too
:19:17. > :19:20.much 250 police jobs being lost. It makes rational planning difficult.
:19:21. > :19:24.With the home Secretary agreed that the PCs can do the job better if
:19:25. > :19:28.they had the budget set at the remainder of the Parliament of what
:19:29. > :19:39.will they do about it? The pitcher he has had out is not the one that I
:19:40. > :19:42.recognise. We have protected, police budgets, across the period of the
:19:43. > :19:46.Comprehensive Spending Review. I would have thought that he would
:19:47. > :19:57.have welcome that given that his front this one of the cut by 10%. A
:19:58. > :20:04.recent reports by the British retail consultant found that these crimes
:20:05. > :20:09.have gone up by 25%. What action was the home Secretary take to and a
:20:10. > :20:13.vote for commissioners to take act against any level of violence
:20:14. > :20:21.against retail staff. What action can be take to reduce this? First of
:20:22. > :20:30.all, I think we are all concerned about Violet Maxine taken place. It
:20:31. > :20:34.is a matter of real concern. The operational response to such crimes
:20:35. > :20:37.being committed and the business of such crimes as a matter for the
:20:38. > :20:43.chief Constable of the particular for the area to look into. I know
:20:44. > :20:49.there are a number of retail chain to ever working very closely. To try
:20:50. > :20:54.to ensure that they are able to provide added support and security
:20:55. > :20:57.for the staff. Although I have had my differences that time with the
:20:58. > :21:00.pleasing crime commissioner and the concert, when my right honourable
:21:01. > :21:04.friend agree with me that his record along with the biggest Achilles, and
:21:05. > :21:12.reducing crime is exemplary and is an example to all? I would again
:21:13. > :21:15.congratulate and walk him see what that is being done in the concert
:21:16. > :21:18.and relation to the reduction of crime by the chief Constable and the
:21:19. > :21:21.pleasing crime commissioner. It is not the only area where we have been
:21:22. > :21:30.able to see crime solving but I think that the following McNish or
:21:31. > :21:39.has been significant. -- Lancashire. Can I ask if she has any statement
:21:40. > :21:43.from the North have a sure crime commissioner from his panel? It is
:21:44. > :21:51.expected that the full transfer funding from the urban areas to more
:21:52. > :21:54.rural areas and that the city will benefit. As developing government
:21:55. > :22:00.policy or is it just letting the cat of the bag? I would have tossed the
:22:01. > :22:11.ombudsman would be aware, we have Derek Lilley said that the proposed
:22:12. > :22:15.changes that we were... We're trying to develop a formula that is
:22:16. > :22:29.affected of the needs. I also sent to the ombudsman he looks across the
:22:30. > :22:37.at police forces across the area he will see that the funding formula
:22:38. > :22:46.needs to change. Question five Mr Speaker. Mr Mike Penning, we ask
:22:47. > :22:58.permission to answer questions on the order paper. Pleasing crime
:22:59. > :23:05.commissioners will have a duty to collaborate on the Bill before this
:23:06. > :23:13.house becomes a law. Hampshire fire service and handsets of the services
:23:14. > :23:19.share a building resulting and financial sufficiency. Will he
:23:20. > :23:23.congratulated me and taking a lead and collaborative working. I was
:23:24. > :23:27.there recently and saw for myself deeply working is being done between
:23:28. > :23:34.the emergency services. The collaboration with the chief and the
:23:35. > :23:41.chief Constable as of the PCC to, they are doing excellent work. The
:23:42. > :23:44.map of my Honorable friend agree that it is important that the new
:23:45. > :23:48.generation of pleasing crime commissioners who have been elected,
:23:49. > :23:52.or will be elected in a couple months' time get behind this
:23:53. > :23:59.important reform. Will he join me in welcoming the commitment of the
:24:00. > :24:11.excellent PCC candidates and his strong desire to implement these
:24:12. > :24:14.subtler forms? We need to make sure that we spending taxpayer money
:24:15. > :24:26.efficiently and well and collaboration and that is the best
:24:27. > :24:36.way for that. She is really a shy or tiring so. The fire and rescue
:24:37. > :24:39.services collaborating very well all over the country, particularly with
:24:40. > :24:44.the ambulance trusts. Will you tell us why he sees necessary under the
:24:45. > :24:48.new bill, that the police and crime commissioners would actually take
:24:49. > :24:56.control of the fire services, surely the two organizations are so
:24:57. > :25:02.different in so many ways. You can have the collaboration without the
:25:03. > :25:09.PCC running our fire services. I think is of the matter, someone who
:25:10. > :25:14.is duly able to run that like a PCC should be on any committee. I'm sure
:25:15. > :25:18.we would want an efficient emergency service, before I service working
:25:19. > :25:28.closely with the police is the way we would like to do that.
:25:29. > :25:32.Collaboration with the services will be the communication network. How
:25:33. > :25:42.much will they cause, and though one day be in place? -- and when will
:25:43. > :25:45.they be in place. There are bits out there and the moment, it will be
:25:46. > :25:50.confidential at the moment. What we do know is that the air racism that
:25:51. > :25:58.we have had needs replacing, it is very expensive and this will be
:25:59. > :26:03.cheaper. The pleasing crime commissioner will put forward a
:26:04. > :26:06.business case to take over the governments of Hampshire for fire
:26:07. > :26:11.rescue services. My honourable friend pointed out what they already
:26:12. > :26:15.doing, we already have a trading arm which pays for the governments of
:26:16. > :26:18.the fire and rescue Authority. What this is the police and fire
:26:19. > :26:25.commission approved for that would allow him to run the service? If the
:26:26. > :26:30.local community wants to have a more efficient service which could be the
:26:31. > :26:34.case, and accept that they are particularly good. When I was in
:26:35. > :26:38.Hampshire there were people asking me for more collaboration, more work
:26:39. > :26:43.to be done to particularly from the front lines which is the most
:26:44. > :26:47.important the plaintiff. Given the cuts and funding to the police
:26:48. > :26:54.service, and the fire and rescue services already budgeted for by
:26:55. > :26:57.this government, can the Minister guarantee that placing fire and left
:26:58. > :27:06.the services under PCC control will not lead to further cut in the
:27:07. > :27:08.numbers of front line firefighters? This is bigger, thank goodness the
:27:09. > :27:12.chances of not listen to labor front bench to relive the funding for the
:27:13. > :27:17.please worked until 2020 because office they of a 10% cut. What we
:27:18. > :27:22.must make sure, what we must make sure is that we have an efficient
:27:23. > :27:37.service and that will be going for. Thank you Mr Speaker. Tackling crime
:27:38. > :27:43.is a priority for government. Show that knife crime is 14% lower than
:27:44. > :27:46.it was in June 2010, we recognise that there is more to do and new
:27:47. > :27:50.actions to tackle knife crime will be set out in the modern crime
:27:51. > :27:59.prevention strategy. I think my honourable friend for the first bite
:28:00. > :28:06.the. -- knife what action is her department taken to Brook -- tackle
:28:07. > :28:10.knife crime. Can I think my honourable friend for his question,
:28:11. > :28:18.and congratulate him on the new arrival, new baby who I believe was
:28:19. > :28:22.very involved in the delivery. I am also aware of the concerns about
:28:23. > :28:24.knife crimes and Essex, and I recently met with my right
:28:25. > :28:28.honourable friend and I have been more than happy to meet with him to
:28:29. > :28:32.discuss precisely this issue. The taking if they just steps, and early
:28:33. > :28:36.this month be supported 30 police forces, including Essex. They
:28:37. > :28:41.undertook coordinated action against knife crime. Thank you Mr Speaker.
:28:42. > :28:50.Knife crime, bike other crime is best dealt with preemptively. In
:28:51. > :28:55.Sussex crime has gone up 8%, and yet today the government inspector said
:28:56. > :28:59.that routinely front-line, neighbourhood, and local police and
:29:00. > :29:03.being taken away. Kenny Minister please be looked at the thousand
:29:04. > :29:08.front-line police officers and staff that are being taken away and for
:29:09. > :29:16.the impact neighbourhood policing? Mr Speaker, can I start when it's a
:29:17. > :29:18.-- comes to Sussex. Congratulating the police commissioner. At that
:29:19. > :29:32.hair, and we discussed to take she's I think he should remember the boat
:29:33. > :29:36.that he made in this house to cut police resources by 10%, something
:29:37. > :29:48.that decided the House disagreed with. Thank you Mr Speaker. Recently
:29:49. > :29:55.and Darby a young man lost his life. Lester, knife years rose across the
:29:56. > :29:59.UK. Can I ask my right honourable friend what steps the department are
:30:00. > :30:03.taking to tackle the scourge of individuals from carrying knives? My
:30:04. > :30:07.honourable friend is right. We do need to educate and show them people
:30:08. > :30:10.that caring matters is not school, it's not something that they should
:30:11. > :30:15.be doing. It's a big that they should understand is dangerous and
:30:16. > :30:18.can result in loss of life. That is why in the last parliament we
:30:19. > :30:23.legislated so that if someone is caught with a knife twice they have
:30:24. > :30:27.a mandatory prison sentence, and we are doing more work. I would be more
:30:28. > :30:35.than happy to work with her and discuss the specific issues and
:30:36. > :30:40.Darby which I do know have... Have the Minister considered amnesty to
:30:41. > :30:45.invite people to hand in weapons, whether it be knives or other
:30:46. > :30:49.weapons, it was very successful in the West Midlands. Mr Speaker, that
:30:50. > :30:56.is a matter for chief constables to determine. I said that we worked
:30:57. > :31:06.with 13 forces including within that work, world knife amnesties.
:31:07. > :31:11.Question number seven. Discussions with
:31:12. > :31:18.to ensure that the public are aware and protected from fraud. It is the
:31:19. > :31:25.mission to counter the wicked work of fraudsters. While I actually
:31:26. > :31:30.understand the difficulties and effectively policing the Internet,
:31:31. > :31:35.financial scams judging by my own parliamentary accounts, seem to be
:31:36. > :31:40.out of control. The most older people are being targeted. When my
:31:41. > :31:45.right honourable friend have another look at this issues and see if there
:31:46. > :31:49.is a way that we can bring these criminals to account? It's because
:31:50. > :31:54.we have taken a fresh look at this. Just as my honourable friend
:31:55. > :31:59.recommends that we have launched the joint task force, we are continuing
:32:00. > :32:02.to support the supply of the streetwise campaign which makes
:32:03. > :32:07.people more aware and guarded about fraud, but we have invested 90
:32:08. > :32:14.million, and one point billion and two security over the next years. We
:32:15. > :32:21.take this seriously. In the cyber age, I am a cyber minister up to the
:32:22. > :32:26.minute, up to the mark, and up to the job. LAUGHTER We would expect no
:32:27. > :32:35.less of the right honourable gentleman. Can I ask the cyber
:32:36. > :32:37.minister, as it seems to be -- since he is up to the mark, about the
:32:38. > :32:49.activities of a website which was discovered recently
:32:50. > :32:52.selling the stolen bank details of 100,000 British citizens? Since he
:32:53. > :32:57.is an up to the minute cyber minister, how is it possible for
:32:58. > :33:03.this website to carry on for six months before it was closed down?
:33:04. > :33:08.How much of the 1.9 billion that he is targeting on cyber crime will be
:33:09. > :33:14.used to proactively close downsides of this kind? The honourable
:33:15. > :33:17.gentleman knows because his committee has drawn attention to did
:33:18. > :33:22.in the past, that it is critically important that the government works
:33:23. > :33:25.with all other agencies including banks and private sector
:33:26. > :33:33.organizations, any task force has permission to do that. It is summed
:33:34. > :33:37.up by this. They have publicly signed up to commit their full
:33:38. > :33:42.support to work in partnership to protect the public from being
:33:43. > :33:49.victims of fraud, scams, and maximise opportunities to prevent
:33:50. > :33:52.fraudster from operating in the way that he recommended. Mr Speaker, the
:33:53. > :33:57.cyber minister will know that you are more likely to be marked online
:33:58. > :34:05.than in the street. -- mocked. Will the home secretary confirmed that
:34:06. > :34:14.after fighters of her government saying cut crime,. The tooth will be
:34:15. > :34:19.told that far from falling, crying is changing. Our country now faces
:34:20. > :34:23.crime doubling when this government continues to cut the number of
:34:24. > :34:27.police officer. The honourable gentleman will be disappointed to
:34:28. > :34:36.know that I am going to say that he is right. I remind him that we are
:34:37. > :34:39.the government that made the decision to publish the statistics,
:34:40. > :34:44.and to designate cyber crime and the way that we have. Until we
:34:45. > :34:47.appreciate the scale of the problem we won't develop the solutions
:34:48. > :34:53.necessary to deal with that. I would also say to him, as he will know,
:34:54. > :34:56.that we are using some of that extra resources to set up the national
:34:57. > :35:11.cyber centre to co-ordinate work in this area. Thank you Mr Speaker. The
:35:12. > :35:17.government has provided funding. It is interesting work that is going
:35:18. > :35:22.forward. Naturally, we will help encourage PC sees in the country to
:35:23. > :35:28.reduce crime, support victims, and closely engorged Democrats engage.
:35:29. > :35:33.The American comedian Eddie Cantor said that those currently on the
:35:34. > :35:37.most wanted list have been the most wanted as children, they would no
:35:38. > :35:41.longer be on the most wanted list. In that context, with the Minister
:35:42. > :35:45.welcomed the work that his department is doing with the early
:35:46. > :35:49.intervention foundation in creating police leaders academies on early
:35:50. > :35:53.intervention. Will he ensure that funding is available so that every
:35:54. > :36:04.police Commissioner a elected this year can attend courses this year.
:36:05. > :36:07.Can I praise the work of the early intervention foundation and the work
:36:08. > :36:10.that they're doing is important. Other agencies do important work,
:36:11. > :36:19.but we know about if we can catch them young to me compared to them
:36:20. > :36:23.from becoming criminals. Following the government's troubled families
:36:24. > :36:28.programme, it can be any doubt that early intervention works. It
:36:29. > :36:33.produces petty crime, encourages school attendance, gets people into
:36:34. > :36:37.jobs. What became clear and why this is welcome with the Minister is
:36:38. > :36:41.saying, without the active participation of the police, those
:36:42. > :36:47.programmes are so ineffectual. I hope that we will ensure that every
:36:48. > :36:55.chief constable in Commissioner will regard this in hype a wordy. I am
:36:56. > :36:58.sure that everyone has heard with my right honourable friend has said.
:36:59. > :37:04.That is why we put the money into the foundation, that is why we are
:37:05. > :37:07.doing the review at the moment into the police early intervention
:37:08. > :37:17.academy so that we can prove -- improve the outcomes. Humberside
:37:18. > :37:24.police is 500 fewer officers than five years ago, and of course across
:37:25. > :37:28.North Lincolnshire... Isn't it the case that the reality for the police
:37:29. > :37:32.on the ground is that early intervention is not a priority and
:37:33. > :37:40.it is being pushed onto ill resourced local authorities. Mr
:37:41. > :37:45.Speaker, I am sure that... Every single time we hear from the Labour
:37:46. > :37:49.Party they want more money and yet their front bench want to cut the
:37:50. > :38:01.funding to the police force. That is what the reality is, not what is
:38:02. > :38:14.actually going on. Number 11 Mr Speaker. Bear with me Mr Speaker. Mr
:38:15. > :38:20.Speaker, as I wrote earlier there are four police forces currently
:38:21. > :38:30.using track my crime. There are more coming on force, and 22 forces will
:38:31. > :38:34.have it available to them. I think the Minister for that answer. How
:38:35. > :38:37.successful has tracked my crime bend and supporting victims of crime and
:38:38. > :38:41.keeping them up to date and supporting them in the process of
:38:42. > :38:48.these matters being back investigated? When I broke this
:38:49. > :39:00.earlier, the tooth -- wrote. Victims have the confidence to
:39:01. > :39:08.actually believe in their justice system. Track my Crime will help
:39:09. > :39:21.that. The evidence gathering stage of the review has been done.
:39:22. > :39:28.18,000 police officers have been cut in the last five years. Is it really
:39:29. > :39:34.sensible to waste scarce police resources and enforcing a ban on
:39:35. > :39:42.poppers and criminalizing users other relatively harmless substance.
:39:43. > :39:47.I hope that the honourable gentleman will welcome the psychoactive
:39:48. > :39:50.substances act, because that blanket ban on the effect of these
:39:51. > :39:54.substances that we do not know what they do to young people and that
:39:55. > :39:59.they caused deaths is incredibly important. When it comes to poppers
:40:00. > :40:01.we have a commitment to reviewing the benefits of poppers against the
:40:02. > :40:09.harms to see whether they should be included. Question number 14 Mr
:40:10. > :40:19.Speaker. Thank you Mr Speaker. The modern slavery act, it is too early
:40:20. > :40:25.to make it effective -- make effectiveness of this act. Some
:40:26. > :40:30.businesses are already published a statement setting out what steps
:40:31. > :40:38.they've taken to prevent moderates lately in they're gloating surprise
:40:39. > :40:41.James. Am grateful for that reply. He writes that the role that the
:40:42. > :40:45.private sector can play in the fight against slavery should not be
:40:46. > :40:51.underestimated. What assessment has she made so far of the effectiveness
:40:52. > :40:57.of the transparency and supply chain's provision in the act for
:40:58. > :41:02.companies of turnovers with ?36 million or more. He is right. It is
:41:03. > :41:05.not about law enforcement and government taking action, it is
:41:06. > :41:09.about working with the private sector and with businesses. I am
:41:10. > :41:14.pleased that although the first set of declarations and relation to
:41:15. > :41:18.supply chains is only from the 31st of March, we have seen a number of
:41:19. > :41:23.companies going forward and making this declaration. I will in a month
:41:24. > :41:27.or so hold an event with companies to share good practice so that we
:41:28. > :41:31.can make sure that we are getting the best event, ending consumers can
:41:32. > :41:36.make their decision. Despite some of the good measures in the act, the
:41:37. > :41:40.fact is that child trafficking is still taking place across the
:41:41. > :41:48.European Union. It is taken within the scandal that is the migration
:41:49. > :41:52.crisis. What work is the home Secretary doing with her colleagues
:41:53. > :41:57.across the European Union to make sure that this issue is adequately
:41:58. > :42:01.tackled across all 28 Member States? First of all, I am encouraging other
:42:02. > :42:04.member state to take the steps that we are taking in terms of
:42:05. > :42:10.interesting new legislation adjective at the modern slavery act.
:42:11. > :42:10.Secondly, we are working with organised immigration crime --
:42:11. > :42:28.immigration crime. Quack I think that this is of enormous
:42:29. > :42:33.benefit because he is an expert in this area. Further to the question,
:42:34. > :42:38.could my right honourable friend set out in more detail the importance of
:42:39. > :42:42.the transparency and supply chains in the modern slavery act, and
:42:43. > :42:51.perhaps how it will be monitored in the future? Not to too much detail,
:42:52. > :42:54.given the time. I think that it has to import and fax. It makes
:42:55. > :42:58.companies think about the issues of the supply chains and whether there
:42:59. > :43:03.is slavery. Secondly, there are declarations as to what or no action
:43:04. > :43:10.they have taken, will be available to consumers, and they can make sure
:43:11. > :43:13.-- make choices. We are looking at a number of options for ensuring that
:43:14. > :43:21.that information is publicly available in one place. May I make
:43:22. > :43:26.the right honourable lady aware about doing excellent work in my
:43:27. > :43:30.constituency. I am shocked to hear the extent of modern slavery in this
:43:31. > :43:35.country. Does she think that people are sufficiently aware and what can
:43:36. > :43:39.she do to highlight that? Can I say to the honourable gentlemen we are
:43:40. > :43:44.are aware of the work of this organisation does. He is right. Most
:43:45. > :43:48.people in this country are shocked to know that shaped An slavery takes
:43:49. > :43:56.place, and would be more shocked to see the degree and extent of it. It
:43:57. > :43:57.is up to everyone in this house to make sure that everyone knows that
:43:58. > :44:19.they do. The government is and challenge Daesh's mitigation. I
:44:20. > :44:25.think the Minister for that response. Daesh is committing
:44:26. > :44:29.atrocities against others who do not agree with them with their way of
:44:30. > :44:33.life. What is the government doing to communicate those viscosities
:44:34. > :44:41.across the UK to prevent the spread of extreme it -- extremism across
:44:42. > :44:51.the UK. We have to challenge those extreme opinions. The UK's
:44:52. > :45:00.government highlights hyperbole is of Daesh. We work with those that I
:45:01. > :45:09.described a minute ago, 130 based community projects were delivered in
:45:10. > :45:13.2015, reaching 20 5000 people. That's 20 5000. I am glad that in
:45:14. > :45:17.this most solemn of matter and the honourable gentleman has been able
:45:18. > :45:25.to provide us with the political florist. Question number one served.
:45:26. > :45:38.Last week I was in Washington I think ministerial. A set that is
:45:39. > :45:42.really. 2014, Daesh directed, inspired, or enabled attacks in
:45:43. > :45:46.other countries worldwide. In 2015 there are almost 60 attacks, as well
:45:47. > :45:50.as well is to budget the tax tear it up by Daesh branches, including
:45:51. > :45:57.those in Libya and Egypt. This is a fight that cannot be won by five --
:45:58. > :46:08.fighting in isolation. We should be more open and sharing intelligence,
:46:09. > :46:11.and our expertise. We must organise our own efforts effectively to
:46:12. > :46:16.support vulnerable state and improve their ability to respond to the
:46:17. > :46:20.threat from terrorism. We made commitments to strengthen
:46:21. > :46:26.information sharing, enhanced efforts and discourage social media.
:46:27. > :46:30.This is the child's of our generation, and one that we will win
:46:31. > :46:33.by working together. Thank you Mr Speaker. I think my right honourable
:46:34. > :46:41.friend for her answer. But she acted with me that the creation of this
:46:42. > :46:44.was the step in the right direction, and this will change radically the
:46:45. > :46:49.future and take on more responsibilities? I agree with my
:46:50. > :46:53.honourable friend. It was important to create that directly elected
:46:54. > :46:56.individual, accountable to the public a little cruising. The call
:46:57. > :47:01.from police and crime commission is because you want to see that role of
:47:02. > :47:04.all. My right honourable friend are already in discussions about how
:47:05. > :47:10.this will might revolve and as to the criminal justice system stop
:47:11. > :47:16.can recommend the home Secretary on her announcement this began, and on
:47:17. > :47:22.her decision to put the national interest before self-interest.
:47:23. > :47:26.Unlike others. When she began at some secretary she took a
:47:27. > :47:31.Eurosceptic stance, opting out of dozens of EU measures. She has since
:47:32. > :47:36.opted back into many, most recently on the sharing of fingerprinting and
:47:37. > :47:41.DNA. Is it fair to say that the realities of office has shown her
:47:42. > :47:45.the value of EU cooperation in tackling crime and terrorism, and
:47:46. > :47:51.changed her mind on print's membership of the EU? I have always
:47:52. > :47:54.been very clear about the value of cooperation when it is in the
:47:55. > :47:59.British national interest. That is what of the 35 measures that we have
:48:00. > :48:06.decided to propose it this house should opt back into, and relation
:48:07. > :48:09.to critical 36, it was precisely because we believed it was of a
:48:10. > :48:16.national interest. I think I will take that as a yes Mr Speaker.
:48:17. > :48:21.Yesterday the Prime Minister was explicitly clear that our membership
:48:22. > :48:25.in the EU helps Britain fight terrorism. But, within minutes he
:48:26. > :48:32.was directly contradicted by one of his own cabinet members who claims
:48:33. > :48:38.that the each -- UK's EU membership made a terrorist attack are likely.
:48:39. > :48:43.Coming from an array senior members of the Cabinet, it is downright
:48:44. > :48:48.irresponsible. Will the home Secretary take this opportunity to
:48:49. > :48:55.reaffirm Government policy on this crucial issue and condemn this
:48:56. > :49:04.baseless scaremongering. Hear, hear! The government's issue is clear. I
:49:05. > :49:08.am clear that there are more areas in which cooperation with other
:49:09. > :49:11.Member States in the European Union is in our benefit in terms of the
:49:12. > :49:16.national security of this country and dealing with criminal matters.
:49:17. > :49:20.As I indicated earlier, and response to questions, we do take security at
:49:21. > :49:27.our borders seriously and that is why we have the checks that we do.
:49:28. > :49:33.The government has agreed to work when -- work and create new
:49:34. > :49:36.initiatives. Can the Minister confirm in the initiative will begin
:49:37. > :49:40.and which organizations the government will work with to help
:49:41. > :49:44.identify those children? Can I thank my honourable friend for her
:49:45. > :49:52.question. We are working with the NHC are in relation to development
:49:53. > :50:03.of a new initiative. Discussions are ongoing with the, we have had round
:50:04. > :50:08.table discussions. You will come back when our consideration has
:50:09. > :50:12.concluded. Thank you Mr Speaker. Following on in the vein of
:50:13. > :50:15.trafficking, I would like to ask the question of a constituent of I Blake
:50:16. > :50:19.cannot name because of her vulnerability. She was human traffic
:50:20. > :50:24.from Nigeria to the UK, held in domestic slavery in London, and
:50:25. > :50:27.escaped over ten years ago to my constituency. She now has a family
:50:28. > :50:33.and a husband. Her children were born in Scotland, but you cannot get
:50:34. > :50:36.help. Her the home office has not been helpful. Can the Minister meet
:50:37. > :50:41.with me and see what can be done to help his family settled in Scotland?
:50:42. > :50:46.Can I say to the honourable lady that she raises what appeared to be
:50:47. > :50:50.a serious individual case. If I may, Mr Speaker, if I can speak to the
:50:51. > :50:57.honourable lady after the station and obtained some more details we
:50:58. > :51:01.will respond. Thank you Mr Speaker. I met with a number of police
:51:02. > :51:09.officers and my constituency who have witnessed extreme trauma. The
:51:10. > :51:13.arrangements for their sick pay and their medical discharge and pension
:51:14. > :51:16.seem to be strikingly different to that of those who have suffered
:51:17. > :51:19.physical injury in the courts of their duty. Does my right honourable
:51:20. > :51:26.friend agree with the Vatican and the government's pursuit of parity
:51:27. > :51:30.between mental and physical illness, police forces should be ensuring
:51:31. > :51:36.that all injury or illness that is attributable to service is supported
:51:37. > :51:39.in the same way. I agree with my right honourable friend. Police
:51:40. > :51:43.officers are entitled to exactly the same sick leave and pay arrangements
:51:44. > :51:51.suffer a mental or a physical on this. Request is subject to same
:51:52. > :51:54.task, and is is possibility of chief constables that they provide for
:51:55. > :52:00.that in their local policies. I am also pleased to say that in October
:52:01. > :52:04.2014, the government allocated ?8 million to the blue light services
:52:05. > :52:08.programme to support the mental and physical well-being of emergency
:52:09. > :52:12.services personnel. The government have always justified their cuts to
:52:13. > :52:19.policing on the basis that crime has not gone up. Since 2010, we have
:52:20. > :52:26.lost more officers than any other force. Crime in Manchester is going
:52:27. > :52:30.up and going up faster than other metropolitan areas. As crime
:52:31. > :52:32.continues to rise, with the government reasonably be considered
:52:33. > :52:37.the production to the number of front line police officers? Lets go
:52:38. > :52:41.of this again. We as a government have not produced a number of police
:52:42. > :52:44.officers on the front line. And front line times, the percentage
:52:45. > :52:50.have gone up. One party that wanted to cut the police budget was the
:52:51. > :52:57.Labour Party. That was a people we do not to. Thank you Mr Speaker.
:52:58. > :53:03.What steps the secretary of state taking to see what we are doing to
:53:04. > :53:07.better protect the public. We are taking a number of steps as a piece
:53:08. > :53:11.of work that is being undertaken to ensure that we look at where
:53:12. > :53:17.capabilities should best light in terms of police reform. I just
:53:18. > :53:21.others this year and relation to this matter. I am happy to say that
:53:22. > :53:26.I have been able to have discussion on precisely this matter with an
:53:27. > :53:36.honourable friend who if he becomes mayor of London will continue this.
:53:37. > :53:42.The chief Rob Wainwright has ordered up to 5000 ices fighters in the EU.
:53:43. > :53:48.How does the home Secretary Phil that being in the EU makes us safer?
:53:49. > :53:52.The honourable gentleman will be aware that what is important for the
:53:53. > :53:56.United Kingdom and being in the European Union is that we are able
:53:57. > :54:00.to continue with the border controls that we have. Unlike those country
:54:01. > :54:10.and sang and, we will never be an changing, and read will maintain our
:54:11. > :54:14.security checks. Hear, hear! Mr Speaker! The Prime Minister has
:54:15. > :54:20.claimed that he has delivered on his promise that if an EU job seeker has
:54:21. > :54:25.not found work within six months they will be required to leave. A
:54:26. > :54:34.promise that he made to JCB workers on the 20th of November 20 14. In
:54:35. > :54:39.reply to my worker -- a written question, number 17574 in December
:54:40. > :54:42.of last year, the integration committee admitted that Aidan EU
:54:43. > :54:47.migrants and keep the status of the job seeker for longer than six
:54:48. > :54:50.months. Can the home secretary clarified who is right? The Prime
:54:51. > :54:56.Minister or the immigration minister? I think that we can safely
:54:57. > :55:00.say that the Prime Minister is right. In a few moments time he will
:55:01. > :55:09.be able to hew precisely how the Prime Minister has set up out. Mr
:55:10. > :55:13.Speaker, I was proud to be able to joint housing for women last week to
:55:14. > :55:21.celebrate the first anniversary of their operating the women's refuge.
:55:22. > :55:24.They support 38 women and children and 2015. Unfortunately, not all
:55:25. > :55:31.refugees are in the same position. 30 have closed over the last year.
:55:32. > :55:35.42% of crisis and is not having money beyond next month. Can the
:55:36. > :55:40.home Secretary do everything she can to ensure that no woman is forced to
:55:41. > :55:47.return home to a violent partner and possibly her death? The honourable
:55:48. > :55:52.lady, I remember the days when she and I both served on the Council for
:55:53. > :55:55.the London Borough of Merton. She continues to take in this issue
:55:56. > :55:58.domestic violence and support for the victims and survivors of
:55:59. > :56:02.domestic violence. Of course, the government has put extra money into
:56:03. > :56:06.refugees. We have been able to do that and we have also been ensuring
:56:07. > :56:09.that we support money for various domestic violence services. This is
:56:10. > :56:16.a terrible time -- crime and we need to deal with that. What assessment
:56:17. > :56:24.has been made about a number of connections made by police forces
:56:25. > :56:30.for child abuse images date is basis to be launched? My honourable friend
:56:31. > :56:34.raise and important issues. Child abuse image database. Something that
:56:35. > :56:40.this government into dues and is leading the world in terms of
:56:41. > :56:45.tackling indecent images of children online. We now have all 43 forces
:56:46. > :56:56.connected to the image database. We are starting to see real results in
:56:57. > :57:04.protecting children. Where police, fire and rescue services,. Will the
:57:05. > :57:10.Minister did a guarantee that whatever happened that there that --
:57:11. > :57:18.that they would allow the services provided to be privatised? The whole
:57:19. > :57:21.reason for enabling police and crime commission is to bring together
:57:22. > :57:26.policing and fire and rescue services is to be able to offer
:57:27. > :57:28.enhanced services. In looking at a decision to be on a local level, a
:57:29. > :57:41.business it -- case will Mr Speaker, the commission I would
:57:42. > :57:46.like to make a statement on the agreements reached in Brussels last
:57:47. > :57:50.week. First let me say a word about the migration crisis which was also
:57:51. > :57:54.discussed at the European Council. We agreed that we needed to press
:57:55. > :57:59.ahead with strengthening the use borders to ensure that not the
:58:00. > :58:03.charges are returned promptly and back the new mission that has
:58:04. > :58:04.brought the