:00:00. > :00:00.rent are getting proper consumer protection including from landlords
:00:00. > :00:19.who unreasonably withhold deposits. Order, order. Yes, points of order,
:00:20. > :00:26.at least a three course meal in my experience. Point of order. Thank
:00:27. > :00:31.you. I just heard the Chancellor say let's debate the substance and not
:00:32. > :00:37.the process in our debates over the EU referendum. I've tried to do
:00:38. > :00:41.exactly that. I've written numerous questions, I'm getting answers that
:00:42. > :00:45.say, talk to the hand. I approach the procedure committee who admitted
:00:46. > :00:49.I've not had substantial answers or any answers to some of my questions.
:00:50. > :00:59.What more can be done? They are trying to muscle -- muscle asked to
:01:00. > :01:03.make sure we don't get answers. I'm ashamed that the government's
:01:04. > :01:07.behaviour. I'm very grateful to the honourable lady for her point of
:01:08. > :01:15.order and for her courtesy in giving me advanced notice of its thrust. I
:01:16. > :01:22.also note she's expressed herself in very forceful terms, expressing her
:01:23. > :01:25.disappointment in the government. She is most assiduous in pursuing
:01:26. > :01:31.this matter and what I'd say to her is this - it is, to put it mildly
:01:32. > :01:38.regrettable that the Department for Business innovation and skills is
:01:39. > :01:44.late in responding to a request from the procedure committee. That should
:01:45. > :01:49.not happen, and if there is a whip on the Treasury bench, he or she
:01:50. > :01:54.should note it is unacceptable, and if there that message should be
:01:55. > :01:59.relayed to the relevant whip come sooner rather than later. I'm sure
:02:00. > :02:04.that this lapse, which would be very unsatisfactory, not least to the
:02:05. > :02:10.chair of the procedure committee and his colleagues on the committee will
:02:11. > :02:13.have been noted on the Treasury bench, and I hope it will be duly
:02:14. > :02:19.communicated to the Secretary of State. The honourable lady has
:02:20. > :02:23.tabled questions that are orderly, and they wouldn't be on the order
:02:24. > :02:28.paper unless they were orderly, so they should receive replies. And
:02:29. > :02:33.they should receive replies quickly. My advice to the honourable lady is
:02:34. > :02:38.to look for those replies each day from now on, and if she doesn't get
:02:39. > :02:43.them, I rather imagine she will return to the subject. That in the
:02:44. > :02:49.interest of propriety, the department should now provide those
:02:50. > :02:54.answers. Its performance is unsatisfactory. And it is - I don't
:02:55. > :03:02.want to use the word shameful - it is unsatisfactory.
:03:03. > :03:07.Yesterday the house had a comprehensive debate on the
:03:08. > :03:13.Government's foreign policy and in particular its raw in arms deals
:03:14. > :03:16.with Saudi Arabia. I put it to the Government an urgent investigation
:03:17. > :03:22.it should take place showing UK bombs have been used in Yemen.
:03:23. > :03:26.Yesterday the Foreign Secretary stated the Ministry of Defence is
:03:27. > :03:29.urgently investigating the allegations and I believe there will
:03:30. > :03:35.be an urgent question on this shortly. This morning the Ministry
:03:36. > :03:42.of Defence gave a statement to the BBC World Service which contradicts
:03:43. > :03:45.the Foreign Secretary's comments. The Ministry of Defence statement
:03:46. > :03:50.says, we are not launching an investigation. We are seeking urgent
:03:51. > :03:55.clarification from Saudi Arabia as to whether or not these weapons were
:03:56. > :04:00.used in the recent conflict and that is our usual policy. Have either the
:04:01. > :04:06.Foreign Secretary or head office asked you if they can come to the
:04:07. > :04:14.house and clarify the position? Law, not request to issue a clarification
:04:15. > :04:17.has been to me. If memory serves me correctly, the line of the
:04:18. > :04:26.governments that law investigation is underway -- law investigation is
:04:27. > :04:32.underway was put by the Defence Secretary in response to the urgent
:04:33. > :04:38.question yesterday. That is a different stance from that's
:04:39. > :04:47.proffered by the Foreign Secretary at oral questions. It is not
:04:48. > :04:53.entirely novel for there to be different statements on the same
:04:54. > :04:57.subject emanating from representatives of different
:04:58. > :05:03.Government departments. If a minister thinks, in the light of the
:05:04. > :05:06.facts, he needs to correct the record of what he said, and I think
:05:07. > :05:13.the honourable lady has the Foreign Secretary in mind in this context,
:05:14. > :05:18.doubtless he will do so. If he does not, it is presumably because he
:05:19. > :05:23.judges there to be no need. In a bad situation at the honourable lady
:05:24. > :05:28.must table questions -- and that situation the honourable lady must
:05:29. > :05:37.table questions if she wanted elucidation. On the 19th of May the
:05:38. > :05:41.Shadow Minister for Europe, the member for North West Durham,
:05:42. > :05:45.visited solely in my constituency where she gave a radio interview in
:05:46. > :05:51.which she despaired what my constituents... I must ask the
:05:52. > :05:58.honourable lady what on earth what was said outside the chamber could
:05:59. > :06:02.tap to do with me in the chair? I think it reflects badly on every
:06:03. > :06:07.Member of Parliament. All sorts of things reflect badly but it has
:06:08. > :06:11.nothing to do with the chair. If the church took responsibility for what
:06:12. > :06:25.was said outside the chamber I would have a very large responsibility. .
:06:26. > :06:29.-- if the cheer. -- if the chair. I am grateful, Mr Speaker. When my
:06:30. > :06:36.right honourable friend von Gordon raised the issue of the family and
:06:37. > :06:42.my constituency the Chancellor said he would write to the member. Can I
:06:43. > :06:46.point out the family are due to be deported in the next few days and I
:06:47. > :06:50.am concerned about the timeliness of the letter, if that was to be
:06:51. > :06:56.written. Can I asked the Speaker at what routes are open to me to make
:06:57. > :06:59.sure this case is urgently addressed through the Home Secretary to
:07:00. > :07:03.respect what was put in place at the time the family came here, the
:07:04. > :07:11.post-work Visa would be in place and we don't report this family who are
:07:12. > :07:20.a credit to the Highlands? My short answer to enquiry is if the matter
:07:21. > :07:24.is urgent in his judgment he knows the recourse available. It would
:07:25. > :07:35.then be for the cheer to judge whether or not the matter was
:07:36. > :07:40.urgent. -- the chair to judge. No, he does not have a point of order.
:07:41. > :07:45.It's one thing to play with one's all here, it's another to play with
:07:46. > :07:51.somebody else's. -- own hair. We will leave it there for now. I
:07:52. > :08:00.wonder if there was a point of order brewing but not on this occasion.
:08:01. > :08:13.Another time. I'm sure he was being helpful. The clerk will read the
:08:14. > :08:18.others of the day. Queen's Speech motion, debate on question. I
:08:19. > :08:24.informed the house I have selected is an amendment be in the name of
:08:25. > :08:37.the Leader of the Opposition. I call Angela Eagle. I just reeling from
:08:38. > :08:44.the prospect of public hair up playing and whether we should end
:08:45. > :08:48.this house have a rule against it. Last Wednesday we saw the age old
:08:49. > :08:53.said audit of the State Opening of Parliament and it was done with the
:08:54. > :09:00.usual pageantry and executed to perfection. The only flaw was the
:09:01. > :09:10.one thank Her Majesty has no control over and that is the consent of the
:09:11. > :09:15.speech itself. After the build up and said on it it was yet another
:09:16. > :09:21.anti-climax. It outlined a mere 21 bels, from a Government with a
:09:22. > :09:26.majority barely one year into its time in office. It is running out of
:09:27. > :09:33.steam before its eyes. You could sense the dismay on the benches
:09:34. > :09:38.opposite. It was described as sparse and the bland, threadbare, thin
:09:39. > :09:42.gruel, uninspiring and vacuous. And that was just the verdict of the
:09:43. > :09:47.Government's all underwhelm backbenchers. Others were less
:09:48. > :09:52.diplomatic. The right honourable member, sold recently a senior
:09:53. > :09:56.Cabinet minister, called a watered-down, blaming a Government
:09:57. > :10:00.that has surrendered to the helter-skelter of the EU referendum
:10:01. > :10:05.campaign. Ex-Tory Cabinet Minister Michael Portillo was more scathing
:10:06. > :10:09.about the first majority Conservative Government since 1992,
:10:10. > :10:14.telling Andrew Newell, after 23 years of careful thought about what
:10:15. > :10:21.they would like to do in power, the answer is nothing. He went on to
:10:22. > :10:28.say,. Of course. Do you think the introduction of the national living
:10:29. > :10:32.wage is nothing? I think the introduction of the national living
:10:33. > :10:45.wage is a porn because it is not a living wage. An increase in wages --
:10:46. > :10:49.is a con. It does not apply to those under 25, describes itself as
:10:50. > :10:56.something it is not so we have scepticism about how useful it will
:10:57. > :11:00.be. Of course. Does the honourable lady consider is nothing, fairer
:11:01. > :11:04.funding for schools which will affect, not on the effect on the
:11:05. > :11:09.house, but many members opposite. The Labour Party once supported this
:11:10. > :11:14.policy. What is the current position? We must look at the policy
:11:15. > :11:23.on schools against the background of what the ISS said was a real terms
:11:24. > :11:35.cut of 8% in the budget. What the IFS said. The volume of an
:11:36. > :11:40.legislation is not an indication of the quality. I certainly agree
:11:41. > :11:47.quantity is not all and I will come onto the details of those bills as I
:11:48. > :11:55.make progress through my speech. The ex-Tory Cabinet Minister Michael
:11:56. > :12:00.Portillo said the Government is in palaces because the only thing that
:12:01. > :12:04.matters to them is saving the Prime Minister's career by winning the
:12:05. > :12:09.referendum. He concluded, in what would be a damning epitaph for this
:12:10. > :12:14.administration, that majority the bright Minister secured last year,
:12:15. > :12:19.it is all for nothing. The Government has nothing to do,
:12:20. > :12:25.nothing to say and thinks nothing. We have this nothing Queen's Speech
:12:26. > :12:29.before us. If you are eye-catching announcements designed to distract
:12:30. > :12:34.from the emptiness of the programme. Presented with the possibility of
:12:35. > :12:40.driverless cars on our roads in four years and even private spaceports.
:12:41. > :12:45.There is still no sign of a decision on the much more pressing issue of
:12:46. > :12:50.airport capacity for the travel millions must now undertake. We were
:12:51. > :12:53.told there would be a legal right to access digital broadband but there
:12:54. > :12:58.is no clear route to resolve the scandal of the Government's total
:12:59. > :13:02.failure to provide adequate digital infrastructure for all. Despite
:13:03. > :13:06.being a fifth largest economy we still languish at 18th in the world
:13:07. > :13:11.for broadband speeds. Perhaps it is a sign of how toxic things are
:13:12. > :13:14.within the Conservative Party that even this self-described uninspiring
:13:15. > :13:21.managerial and vacuous legislative programme has already caused yet
:13:22. > :13:24.another Tory backbench rebellion. The Government has already caved and
:13:25. > :13:31.by agreeing an amendment to the motion before us which will exempt
:13:32. > :13:36.the NHS from a Transatlantic Trade Investment Partnership. We on the
:13:37. > :13:40.side of the house of long called for the Government to exempt the NHS
:13:41. > :13:47.from three deals and we are glad they have now agreed -- from trade
:13:48. > :13:51.deals. It is interesting to see what this divided Government are now able
:13:52. > :13:57.to agree on. The only things they seem to be able to unite on flogging
:13:58. > :14:02.of a valuable public assets such as the land Registry in the back
:14:03. > :14:07.Registry which actually makes money, and unleashing the full force of the
:14:08. > :14:14.market on higher education. This rebellion on the trade deal follows
:14:15. > :14:19.other areas such as forced academisation, cuts to tax credits
:14:20. > :14:26.for the low paid, cuts to payments for the disabled, tax relief resist
:14:27. > :14:33.reform, saw packs, tampon tax, Sunday trading, fox hunting ban,
:14:34. > :14:36.scrapping their own criminal courts charge, recommending some child
:14:37. > :14:41.refugees to the country and how soon. This does not even include the
:14:42. > :14:47.Chancellor's latest budget fiasco, which remains unresolved and seems
:14:48. > :14:55.to contain a ?4 billion hole in his arithmetic. I'm happy to give way. I
:14:56. > :14:58.am surprised that six minutes into her speech on the subject of
:14:59. > :15:03.education, skills and training she has failed to mention the first
:15:04. > :15:08.paragraph of the Queen's speech was about life chances. In circumstances
:15:09. > :15:12.where we know half of the people in prisons who I don't have no
:15:13. > :15:18.education at all and in circumstances with the Queen's
:15:19. > :15:21.speech talks about education in prisons and social care, I believe
:15:22. > :15:27.the Queen's Speech has something of real substance in it. I will get
:15:28. > :15:30.onto that but this is a debate on the entirety of the Queen's Speech
:15:31. > :15:37.and I am entitled to say what I like about any little bit of it. The can
:15:38. > :15:42.make her own speech if she catches me Speaker's I and I will thank if
:15:43. > :15:49.she let me make mine. I am here to make my point and I intend to do so.
:15:50. > :15:53.The emptiness of the current conservative agenda, outlined in the
:15:54. > :15:59.Queen's Speech, is apparent with the PR hyperbole which accompanied its
:16:00. > :16:03.announcement. We have two mind the gap between rhetoric and reality.
:16:04. > :16:07.Whilst they boast about their credentials as a one nation
:16:08. > :16:13.Government, they are cutting support for working people and giving the
:16:14. > :16:18.richest tax cut. They think ?450,000 for a starter home is affordable and
:16:19. > :16:22.they are doing nothing effective to solve the housing crisis or soaring
:16:23. > :16:28.rents. They boast of the life chances, as indeed the honourable
:16:29. > :16:33.lady has just done, but in 2016, in Saudi Britain, homelessness is
:16:34. > :16:39.soaring, millions are forced to resort -- in Tory Britain. There is
:16:40. > :16:43.a widening attainment gap between different areas on the contrary,
:16:44. > :16:48.millions more people are struggling to see the doctor and cuts in
:16:49. > :16:56.funding me this is likely to get worse. The Prime Minister's life
:16:57. > :17:00.chances agenda is either a joke or a con. How do you improve life chances
:17:01. > :17:07.by abolishing shouldn't maintenance grant for the purpose, increasing
:17:08. > :17:13.tuition fees and barely mentioning further education colleges and your
:17:14. > :17:17.plans at all? How do you agree to attainment by fiddling the school
:17:18. > :17:21.structures and ignoring low morale, chronic teacher shortages and
:17:22. > :17:26.growing pressure on school places? The proposals have to be judged on
:17:27. > :17:33.the context of the funding settlements for education, as I
:17:34. > :17:39.mentioned earlier. The 16 - 19 age have seen a 14% fall in the funding
:17:40. > :17:44.provision since 2010 and educational capital spending fell by 34%.
:17:45. > :17:51.I hesitate to interrupt such a positive speech she is making but
:17:52. > :17:55.she's having a busy day. Perhaps you'd be kind enough to rally a
:17:56. > :17:58.little support for the Hereford University project which will
:17:59. > :18:03.deliver the very life chances that I know she and I can unite in
:18:04. > :18:07.supporting. The honourable gentleman should invite me to visit it and me
:18:08. > :18:13.and him can go together so that I can see what is going on in
:18:14. > :18:17.Herefordshire. Now, Mr Speaker, the Institute of fiscal studies have
:18:18. > :18:24.percolated there is likely to be an 8% fall in funding per pupil between
:18:25. > :18:29.now and 2020 in the School Centre. After a modest 0.6% rise in funding
:18:30. > :18:34.per pupil in the last Parliament, don't say I don't put the figures
:18:35. > :18:40.accurately on the record and give the government credit where it is
:18:41. > :18:45.due, 0.6% for the first five years of the coalition, -8% for the next.
:18:46. > :18:49.With adult and part-time education have seen huge falls in numbers
:18:50. > :18:56.participating because they simply cannot afford to pay. Yet... I give
:18:57. > :19:00.way. One of the things this government is trying to do through
:19:01. > :19:03.the Queen's Speech and its new bills is to introduce new universities
:19:04. > :19:07.which will give so many more people an opportunity to get the education
:19:08. > :19:13.they need. Would my honourable friend join with me in looking at
:19:14. > :19:16.students across this country right at this moment are very concerned
:19:17. > :19:21.that there are threats to universities right now, with unions
:19:22. > :19:25.going on strike and destructing teaching and exams. I've got one of
:19:26. > :19:29.my daughters about take a finals. Would she agree this is not
:19:30. > :19:33.acceptable behaviour? The first thing to say is I think some of the
:19:34. > :19:38.threat is, if it isn't properly looked at, and we will have to look
:19:39. > :19:42.at the Bill when it comes in greater detail, with the so-called new
:19:43. > :19:47.providers, which and tried and untested and we will get into
:19:48. > :19:54.talking about that particularly we get into the Bill itself. By the
:19:55. > :20:00.way, I haven't done so, but I'd like to acknowledge the fact that the
:20:01. > :20:05.honourable gentleman has taken the Secretary of State's place. I know
:20:06. > :20:10.he is on his way to mum by to help talk to Tata about the crisis facing
:20:11. > :20:16.the steel industry in our country, and might I say that it is about
:20:17. > :20:22.time as I wish him all the best with the work that he's doing. So it is a
:20:23. > :20:28.pleasure to welcome the honourable gentleman to the despatch box in his
:20:29. > :20:31.stead. Mr Speaker, there is nothing in this Queen's Speech on the
:20:32. > :20:36.growing funding crisis affecting schools. There is no mention of
:20:37. > :20:39.adult up Skilling, which is a particularly difficult admission.
:20:40. > :20:44.Without action in these areas we went tackle the skills urgency which
:20:45. > :20:50.is holding back our economy. Unfilled vacancies have risen 130%
:20:51. > :20:54.since 2011 with skills shortages accounting for over a third of
:20:55. > :21:01.unfilled vacancies in key industries. I'm happy to give way. I
:21:02. > :21:05.thank the right to honourable lady not least for once describing me as
:21:06. > :21:14.a Eurosceptic Mart on before of the house. In terms of skills, why does
:21:15. > :21:18.she think it has taken a Conservative government open in new
:21:19. > :21:23.university technical College in Peterborough, opening in September,
:21:24. > :21:27.whereas in benign economic times we saw massive increases in youth
:21:28. > :21:32.unemployment and young people who didn't want to go to university left
:21:33. > :21:36.on the sidelines? Well, I'm glad to see that despite being a Eurosceptic
:21:37. > :21:42.Marta, the honourable gentleman is still alive and kicking, and doing
:21:43. > :21:49.his thing on the Tory backbenches. I have to say to him that it was a
:21:50. > :21:52.Labour government that started university technical colleges, and
:21:53. > :21:59.I'm glad now he is having one in his own area, but I think that he is
:22:00. > :22:03.being rather churlish in talking about our record, when we actually
:22:04. > :22:07.created the university technical college concept. The government has
:22:08. > :22:13.if very large target for apprenticeships come about 30% of
:22:14. > :22:21.those starting don't actually finish the course. And 96% are level two or
:22:22. > :22:26.three with lowly numbers attending apprenticeships. I understand level
:22:27. > :22:30.two and three are important to attain, but even more important for
:22:31. > :22:41.the future Health and Wellbeing Boards our economy is expanding the
:22:42. > :22:44.higher degree level apprenticeships. And grateful to my honourable
:22:45. > :22:49.friend, and she will remember that in the last Parliament I introduced
:22:50. > :22:52.up private members bill, the apprenticeships and skills public
:22:53. > :22:57.procurement bill. Isn't there a real opportunity being missed here that
:22:58. > :23:00.with public procurement and major engineering project in particular
:23:01. > :23:07.that we really ought to be getting more anchor our taxpayer Buck in
:23:08. > :23:16.getting proper, decent, high-quality, advanced, and further
:23:17. > :23:18.level apprenticeships tied into those public procurement contracts?
:23:19. > :23:24.I couldn't agree more with my honourable friend. I Menard fire of
:23:25. > :23:28.his, especially as I've seen those recent pictures of him abseiling
:23:29. > :23:32.down a very tall buildings so my admiration has grown even more. His
:23:33. > :23:35.bill was an extremely good one, and I think it is important the
:23:36. > :23:40.government does think much more carefully than it has to date about
:23:41. > :23:46.how it can tie in the money it spends in public procurement with
:23:47. > :23:51.skills creation. The Business Secretary is going to have to do
:23:52. > :23:53.that if he's going to save a prosperous future for British Steel
:23:54. > :24:01.and he should think about doing it in a locked more areas. It is a to
:24:02. > :24:06.boo that needs to be broken. I'm very grateful for giving way. Does
:24:07. > :24:09.she share the concern of those that worried that the government's 3
:24:10. > :24:13.million apprenticeships target will only be achieved if the quality of
:24:14. > :24:21.what is being offered in this apprenticeships being diminished?
:24:22. > :24:24.I'm afraid I do share that worry about the very large quantities
:24:25. > :24:30.target to which the government has set and wants to pass by all
:24:31. > :24:35.accounts. When I go to talk to business, which I do regularly up
:24:36. > :24:40.and down the country, that of session with quantity, rather than
:24:41. > :24:44.quality, causes some real worries and I hope the Minister will be able
:24:45. > :24:50.to tell us today that he's got some ways of dealing with this because I
:24:51. > :24:55.have come across some extremely dubious actresses, if I can put it
:24:56. > :24:58.that way, with one of the apprenticeships, which I'm glad the
:24:59. > :25:07.enterprise act has closed that loophole, but will need pretty
:25:08. > :25:13.forceful and enforcement otherwise we will seek abuse. Would she accept
:25:14. > :25:17.that social clauses within public sector contracts, which have worked
:25:18. > :25:24.very effectively in Northern Ireland and Scotland, could be used much
:25:25. > :25:28.more widely, and I don't even contradict EU rules, so they don't
:25:29. > :25:31.even have that excuse on this occasion, and they could ensure
:25:32. > :25:35.public money is used to ensure the skills base of the country is
:25:36. > :25:43.increased? I couldn't agree more with the comments that the
:25:44. > :25:47.honourable gentleman has made. It is absolutely right that social clauses
:25:48. > :25:53.in procurement have really important role to play. I make one observation
:25:54. > :25:57.that I have made over my time in Parliament, and that is that those
:25:58. > :26:04.involved in public procurement can be very risk averse. All too often,
:26:05. > :26:11.they don't think about the extra things they can get out of the money
:26:12. > :26:16.the government is spending in committing to particular projects,
:26:17. > :26:20.and they often use the excuse of EU procurement rules as a reason for
:26:21. > :26:27.not being creative enough with the way in which they pursue
:26:28. > :26:34.procurement. Now... No one, Mr Speaker, argues with the state today
:26:35. > :26:36.in the higher education and research will of widening access and
:26:37. > :26:41.participation in higher education. That is what we all want to see. We
:26:42. > :26:45.on the side of the house object strongly to the approach the
:26:46. > :26:48.government has taken in both the white Paper and the accompanying
:26:49. > :26:52.Bill. The Business Secretary appears to believe that the solution to
:26:53. > :26:57.widening participation is to inject market forces into the provision of
:26:58. > :27:03.higher education, allowing new, untried, and providers to start up a
:27:04. > :27:07.cheap degree awarding powers, and securing university status and he
:27:08. > :27:12.wants to force students to pay for it all through higher Jewish and
:27:13. > :27:18.fees. Yet there is absolutely... I'm happy to give way. I'm very grateful
:27:19. > :27:22.to my honourable friend to giving way, and she's making an excellent
:27:23. > :27:30.speech. Does she agree with me that also these reforms to hire education
:27:31. > :27:32.and deregulation risk the excellent reputation that UK higher education
:27:33. > :27:36.institutions have internationally, and that help us attract
:27:37. > :27:45.international students into this country? There is, if I might call
:27:46. > :27:49.it a brandishing with the risks that my honourable friend has raised with
:27:50. > :27:55.particular suggestions in both the White Paper and the Bill. And we on
:27:56. > :27:58.this side of the house will want to study in great detail and ask a
:27:59. > :28:02.great deal of serious questions about the potential consequence of
:28:03. > :28:08.what the honourable gentleman has suggested in the White Paper, and
:28:09. > :28:12.what is present in the Bill. The rear is absolutely no evidence that
:28:13. > :28:17.competition of this sort will lead to higher standards or a better
:28:18. > :28:23.solution students. It is likely to entrench privilege and elitism even
:28:24. > :28:28.more in the system his proposal, the proposal before us in this Queen's
:28:29. > :28:33.Speech the regulates entrance to what this government sees as a
:28:34. > :28:38.market in higher education. And this is taking a gamble, as my honourable
:28:39. > :28:40.friend said, with the UK's international reputation for
:28:41. > :28:46.providing the highest standards of degree education and also means that
:28:47. > :28:48.any student studying at one of these probationary degree awarding
:28:49. > :28:53.institutions, whatever they will be, will be taking a very personal
:28:54. > :28:59.gamble, too. It's unclear what will happen if it all goes wrong or who
:29:00. > :29:03.will pick up the pieces. After trebling Jewish and fees to ?9,000 a
:29:04. > :29:06.year, this government now wishes to raise them again. The government
:29:07. > :29:11.have chosen to remove the cap on Jewish and fees and to tie the
:29:12. > :29:16.capacity to raise fees to very dubious proxies for what they've
:29:17. > :29:20.called teaching excellence. Nobody objects to teaching excellence, Mr
:29:21. > :29:24.Speaker. It is like motherhood and apple pie. Except motherhood and
:29:25. > :29:31.apple pie is a lot at easier to define than teaching excellence. You
:29:32. > :29:36.see motherhood fairly obviously. Apple pie, or once you've cut it
:29:37. > :29:39.open to check there aren't any blackberries in it, but it is a lot
:29:40. > :29:49.harder to know what teaching excellence is. Now, the
:29:50. > :29:54.government... Has chosen various proxies, such as the subsequent
:29:55. > :30:00.employment record of graduates. Student retention is another one,
:30:01. > :30:08.and satisfaction surveys. I will give way, but in a minute and I want
:30:09. > :30:11.to finish my point about the subsequent employment record of
:30:12. > :30:16.graduates. There are many reasons why people have good or bad
:30:17. > :30:21.subsequent employment records. And many, many of them have got
:30:22. > :30:25.absolutely nothing to do with the teaching excellence of those schools
:30:26. > :30:28.or universities they attended. For example, some people with
:30:29. > :30:31.disabilities are routinely discriminated against in our labour
:30:32. > :30:39.market, and it's very difficult for them to have very, very successful
:30:40. > :30:45.subsequent employment records. That may have absolutely nothing to do
:30:46. > :30:49.with the way they were taught or the standards of excellence of their
:30:50. > :30:55.teaching. Many women, likewise, especially if they leave early to
:30:56. > :30:58.have children have a very different subsequent employment record to what
:30:59. > :31:04.they might have had if they hadn't left to have a family. It is well
:31:05. > :31:07.documented, for example, those from the black and ethnic minority
:31:08. > :31:13.communities are discriminated against in our labour market. It's
:31:14. > :31:19.clear also when one looks at the figures that those who have exact
:31:20. > :31:23.need the same qualifications, but from the black and ethnic minority
:31:24. > :31:28.communities are discriminated against and have less successful, in
:31:29. > :31:36.many, many cases, less successful subsequent employment careers, so,
:31:37. > :31:42.having subsequent employment instead of teaching excellence already
:31:43. > :31:43.breaks down. I give way. Has she seen the statement from universities
:31:44. > :31:48.UK who say they welcome the plan is to maintain
:31:49. > :31:50.the value of these and are looking forward to working with government
:31:51. > :32:00.to develop Teaching Excellence Framework? They have also got grave
:32:01. > :32:04.concerns and reservations about the route the government are taking and
:32:05. > :32:07.for some of the reasons that I'm outlining now. Of course they going
:32:08. > :32:11.to work with the government because they've got a White Paper in front
:32:12. > :32:14.of them. There is a Bill on the table of this house and they want to
:32:15. > :32:19.make it the best it can be but I wouldn't take that kind of
:32:20. > :32:26.endorsement for bland agreement. Would she also agree with me there
:32:27. > :32:30.is great difficulty of selling this concept of higher fees for students
:32:31. > :32:35.at a time when universities haven't got to grips with inflation of the
:32:36. > :32:38.salaries at the higher levels within the higher universities and many
:32:39. > :32:48.students will simply see them being used as a means to fund wages? The
:32:49. > :32:51.honourable gentleman makes a good point and I look forward to hearing
:32:52. > :33:00.what the minister has to say about it.
:33:01. > :33:07.I am grateful. She has been generous with her time. In circumstances
:33:08. > :33:11.where we not one of the biggest single factors affecting a child
:33:12. > :33:15.at's education is the quality of teaching, does she agree with the
:33:16. > :33:19.principle it is appropriate to ensure we have excellence in
:33:20. > :33:26.teaching and improve it, if we can? Yes but I am talking about how we
:33:27. > :33:29.measure it and what it means. To be honest, if the honourable lady was
:33:30. > :33:37.so concerned about the excellence in teaching C would be looking at Sure
:33:38. > :33:42.start and early teaching, she would look at the problems we have with
:33:43. > :33:49.teacher recruitment and she would look at a range of other things.
:33:50. > :33:53.Nobody in this, as I said, in that house agrees, disagrees with the
:33:54. > :33:58.concept of teaching excellence. It is how one defines and measures it
:33:59. > :34:02.which is what I am trying to deal with known. We talked about
:34:03. > :34:08.subsequent employment. The other two areas the Government looked at was
:34:09. > :34:14.student retention and satisfaction surveys. There was a reason and a
:34:15. > :34:18.student may not be satisfied with that institution which may not have
:34:19. > :34:22.anything to do with whether it teaches in an excellent way not and
:34:23. > :34:26.I think probably a lot more is going to have two be, a lot more work will
:34:27. > :34:32.have to be done on these proxies if they will have any meaning. I look
:34:33. > :34:35.forward to what the Minister will have to see about that because at
:34:36. > :34:44.the moment it is a very dubious concept. Further to the points made
:34:45. > :34:48.by the member, many people have given evidence to the business
:34:49. > :34:53.select committee's enquiries into the teaching excellence framework
:34:54. > :34:56.and many of the University vice chancellors were clear they want to
:34:57. > :35:03.work with the Government to ensure needs to prove that might improve
:35:04. > :35:07.teaching excellence. They need more time to ensure the metrics chosen
:35:08. > :35:11.and the correct ones. Does she agree with me that would be more sensible
:35:12. > :35:15.way forward for the Government? I know the select committee report
:35:16. > :35:22.does outline sector has these entire reforms are being rushed to a
:35:23. > :35:25.timetable that does not reflect best practice and I know there are a lot
:35:26. > :35:35.of vice chancellors and others in the sector who are worried about the
:35:36. > :35:38.implications. Just to say, she has made an argument about teaching
:35:39. > :35:44.excellence and somebody who stored in university for six years as 15
:35:45. > :35:48.years ago there was a very little ambiguity, even then about student
:35:49. > :35:52.satisfaction surveys as though someone was doing a decent teaching
:35:53. > :35:56.job. There is even less now given all the other modes of feedback.
:35:57. > :36:04.Even if there was not you could fill in the aggregate from the service --
:36:05. > :36:11.tale from the anchoring it. It is quite clear teaching can be
:36:12. > :36:16.evaluated and it is quite proper it should be included in an evaluation
:36:17. > :36:19.for student fees. I am not saying it can't be included I'm seeing the
:36:20. > :36:27.proxies the Government have chosen have given cause for concern and I
:36:28. > :36:35.tried to explain why and I think you have to think about how this works
:36:36. > :36:40.through and we will be interested in what the Minister has to see about
:36:41. > :36:49.this but I think if he is not... Let me finish this point first. If he is
:36:50. > :36:59.not careful, he could end up introducing a range of results that
:37:00. > :37:05.are not what he wants to see Andy could be paradoxical, disincentives
:37:06. > :37:08.for excellence -- and they could be. Certain people always find it
:37:09. > :37:16.difficult to good job subsequently in the labour market may become less
:37:17. > :37:19.valid as students or less attractive as students to certain institutions
:37:20. > :37:25.because of how these measurements are taken. That would be a utterly
:37:26. > :37:31.backward step for the opportunities and life chances of a large number
:37:32. > :37:35.of people already suffering disadvantage in our society. I think
:37:36. > :37:38.the honourable gentleman at least ought to recognise that is a
:37:39. > :37:41.possibility with some of these measurements. He is wanting to
:37:42. > :37:50.indicate so I will give away again to him. It would be a consequence of
:37:51. > :37:55.her arguments that it would be impossible to assess the teaching of
:37:56. > :37:58.the Royal National College of the blinds in Hereford because it
:37:59. > :38:02.teaches disabled people who suffer in the future life chances but no
:38:03. > :38:12.one doubts that institution can be properly evaluated and indeed, it
:38:13. > :38:15.does an excellent job. This is also a competition between universities
:38:16. > :38:20.and there are some paradoxical results. If I were interested in
:38:21. > :38:22.widening opportunities I wouldn't be worried about them and I think the
:38:23. > :38:28.honourable gentleman ought to accept that. I give with. I am just going
:38:29. > :38:32.to follow the point the Shadow minister is making. Obviously it is
:38:33. > :38:41.aborted the metrics and process is right and appropriate but, just as
:38:42. > :38:45.was the other thing, we're going through a process which is why the
:38:46. > :38:49.white Paper states this is going to be phased in and piloted and it
:38:50. > :38:53.recognises there will be an important process of consultation
:38:54. > :39:00.and feedback. It is not entirely clear to me why the shadow minister
:39:01. > :39:05.is expressing this as a concern that it will be imposed with no
:39:06. > :39:14.consultation. Partially the speeds, it took six years for what she spoke
:39:15. > :39:19.about and this will be done in only a couple. We must get this right or
:39:20. > :39:24.there will be consequences but I don't think any people on either
:39:25. > :39:30.side of the house would want to see. I am actually not wanting to get
:39:31. > :39:37.into the second reading of the bill, I think that is not wise. I want to
:39:38. > :39:41.get on and finish my speech. I tried to take a lot of interventions and I
:39:42. > :39:44.think it's only fair on those who want to get into the rest of the
:39:45. > :39:51.debate I get to the end of my speech. Education should not be
:39:52. > :39:53.about shackling a generation with yet more debt, but I'm wishing that
:39:54. > :39:58.balance to build a brighter future and that despite we on the side of
:39:59. > :40:02.the house understand why that is the cost of higher education we cannot
:40:03. > :40:07.allow market forces director worlds. These changes changes went ahead --
:40:08. > :40:11.if these changes went ahead with in the parliament it is likely fees
:40:12. > :40:15.would have risen to ?10,000 per year and poorer students could face bills
:40:16. > :40:18.of up to ?55,000 bursary for a three-year degree. This is
:40:19. > :40:29.unacceptable and we will oppose lifting the cap. -- ?55,000 for a
:40:30. > :40:33.three-year degree. Out onto the education Bill. We know this was not
:40:34. > :40:39.the belt the Prime Minister wish to include in the Queen's Speech. He
:40:40. > :40:44.told us it would include measures to force schools -- all schools to
:40:45. > :40:48.become academies. Since then witnessed a humiliating come-down
:40:49. > :40:53.when the Government walk up to the fact the plans were unacceptable. My
:40:54. > :40:55.honourable friend has done a fantastic job and her front bench
:40:56. > :41:02.position and pointing that out to the Government. We welcome that you
:41:03. > :41:08.turn on the sake of the house and will continue to challenge the
:41:09. > :41:12.Government on its fixation with the forced academisation of good or
:41:13. > :41:16.outstanding schools. We also support the principle of moving towards a
:41:17. > :41:19.better funding formula but it is essential measures are put in place
:41:20. > :41:24.to assist those areas set to lose out. A new formula cannot disguise
:41:25. > :41:31.the fact that over this Parliament school budgets face the highest real
:41:32. > :41:35.terms cuts -- school budgets face the highest real terms cut since the
:41:36. > :41:40.70s. The aim of the Government does not do seem to be to address the
:41:41. > :41:43.shortage of teachers but when they knew the path of forced
:41:44. > :41:48.academisation. This has nothing to do with improving life chances but
:41:49. > :41:52.has a rather dangerous, shows the Government with a dangerous
:41:53. > :41:56.obsession with structures at the expense of standards. A Government
:41:57. > :42:02.that is ideological at the expense of other children's future. On the
:42:03. > :42:07.children's social worker bill we will support measures to protect and
:42:08. > :42:11.create opportunity for the most vulnerable children in our society
:42:12. > :42:15.and look closely at the detail of the spill the proposals the
:42:16. > :42:19.Government is putting forward. We must ensure when action is taking it
:42:20. > :42:24.as high-quality, has proper oversight and has the needs of
:42:25. > :42:29.children at heart. We are clear up the child protection services should
:42:30. > :42:32.never be run for profit. This Government has failed to provide
:42:33. > :42:39.adequate adoption support. Local authorities are being starved of
:42:40. > :42:42.support and social workers. Every child deserves a fulfilling
:42:43. > :42:47.upbringing and I believed we all agree on that, but provides a solid
:42:48. > :42:53.path to adulthood and we have a moral duty to tackle abuse and
:42:54. > :42:58.neglect. This is Government which has ground to a halt just one year
:42:59. > :43:03.after it was elected. The Government taken over by a referendum of its
:43:04. > :43:08.own making. Consumed by its own poisonous infighting to present a
:43:09. > :43:12.compelling vision for our country. The Prime Minister is contradicted
:43:13. > :43:15.by his own junior defence and employment ministers and the
:43:16. > :43:19.honourable member for Uxbridge and South Ruislip is taking time off
:43:20. > :43:27.from his blunder bus tour to offer the keys to number 11 to at least
:43:28. > :43:36.three different people. I don't know whether you are one of them, we know
:43:37. > :43:39.all three. -- we know of three. I. Not without he approached the
:43:40. > :43:44.Minister for higher education but know that people tell us when he
:43:45. > :43:48.gets up. This is a Government which resorts to PR stunt and gimmicks and
:43:49. > :43:56.we bought all their behaviour out for what it is. Order. The original
:43:57. > :44:01.question was a humble address be presented to Her Majesty, as on the
:44:02. > :44:05.order paper. Since when an amendment has been proposed, as on the order
:44:06. > :44:10.paper, the question is the amendments be made. I call the
:44:11. > :44:19.Minister of State for universities and science, Mr Johnson. As the
:44:20. > :44:23.Right honourable lady the already said, the secretary of state is not
:44:24. > :44:27.what is because he is in Mumbai where he is attending the board
:44:28. > :44:32.meeting Tata and fighting for the interests of the UK's steel sector.
:44:33. > :44:37.He would want to be here to champion this Queen's Speech and to expose
:44:38. > :44:41.some of the shortcomings in the arguments we have just heard. I want
:44:42. > :44:44.to dignify the suggestion of the quality of the Queen's Speech can be
:44:45. > :44:52.measured by the number of bills in its. We let deregulatory Government
:44:53. > :44:58.and all that legislate one strictly necessary. -- we are in the regular
:44:59. > :45:04.Tory Government. Even if that were a regional benchmark it is worth
:45:05. > :45:10.noting 21 build is higher than the average of 18 bills per session of
:45:11. > :45:15.the last decade. -- 21 bills. But we won't go there. This Queen's Speech
:45:16. > :45:19.that opportunity and life chances to education at the top of the
:45:20. > :45:24.legislative agenda, ensuring every child goes to an excellent school
:45:25. > :45:28.and there is barely funded one of the honour. Delivering high quality
:45:29. > :45:32.employer led apprenticeships providing a clear route to
:45:33. > :45:36.employment for young people and on the part of quality that were raised
:45:37. > :45:40.by the right honourable member it is worth noting all apprenticeships
:45:41. > :45:44.must be paid job with substantial training lasting at least 12 months
:45:45. > :45:51.that develop transferable skill and lead to feel confident in an
:45:52. > :45:54.occupation. And putting it high-quality university place within
:45:55. > :45:59.reach of everyone with the potential to benefit. We have made huge
:46:00. > :46:06.progress since 2010. 1.4 million more young people attending good or
:46:07. > :46:09.outstanding schools, 2.4 million apprenticeships created and record
:46:10. > :46:14.application rates to university. This Queen's Speech is the next step
:46:15. > :46:20.in our long-term plan for our economy. I thank the Minister for
:46:21. > :46:24.giving way. Can he explain why some young people going on apprenticeship
:46:25. > :46:29.programmes and not actually being paid, they are being paid by our
:46:30. > :46:34.costs. That amounts to around ?100 per week. Is that genuine page, in
:46:35. > :46:40.his view? As I said, we are committed to high quality employer
:46:41. > :46:43.led programme in which apprenticeships must be paid jobs
:46:44. > :46:47.with substantial training opportunities that will equip them
:46:48. > :46:57.to take on the full responsibility in that particular occupation. I
:46:58. > :47:01.thank the Minister for giving way. In Macclesfield we have been
:47:02. > :47:06.fortunate to see a major employer to consult the apprenticeships last
:47:07. > :47:10.year. It is in some of the most important areas in our constituency.
:47:11. > :47:15.Does he agree that approach with colleges taking a keen interest in
:47:16. > :47:19.relevant local businesses is the way to establish more apprenticeships
:47:20. > :47:29.and take that important initiative further forward.
:47:30. > :47:34.Employers are continuing to drive up quality to provide the skills that
:47:35. > :47:37.young people need. High quality apprenticeships will be embedded
:47:38. > :47:40.further with the future established before the into jute of
:47:41. > :47:44.apprenticeships and Ofsted will ensure providers continue to deliver
:47:45. > :47:51.the high quality training expected. As to speak at, in her White Paper,
:47:52. > :47:55.educational excellence everywhere, my right honourable friend sets out
:47:56. > :48:00.this government's plan to drive up educational standards in England.
:48:01. > :48:06.The government's goal is to achieve a school system where every school
:48:07. > :48:10.is an academy by 2022 so that excellent teachers have the freedom
:48:11. > :48:15.to give their pupils the best start in life. My honourable friend has
:48:16. > :48:23.been clear we have listened and will not take blanket powers to force
:48:24. > :48:24.good schools in strong local conduct...
:48:25. > :48:28.good schools in strong local We will convert schools in the worst
:48:29. > :48:32.performing areas where local authorities are unable to guarantee
:48:33. > :48:36.their continued success. We will consult carefully on how these local
:48:37. > :48:39.authorities will be identified and Parliament will have further
:48:40. > :48:43.opportunities to debate our proposals. That is the basis of the
:48:44. > :48:49.important legislation which my honourable friend will present to
:48:50. > :48:52.Parliament. I'm extremely grateful for the Minister for giving way.
:48:53. > :48:56.I've set up to academies and I remain a chair of governors of one
:48:57. > :49:01.academy so I know full well that academy status can be one powerful
:49:02. > :49:04.tool for school improvement but it isn't the only tool for school
:49:05. > :49:11.improvement. Interim executive board, investment in teaching, new
:49:12. > :49:17.curriculum are other tools. Why is he so assessed with 1-2 at the
:49:18. > :49:20.expense of all the others? I'd point the honourable gentleman to the
:49:21. > :49:26.White Paper which has a chapter on structure, and all the others are
:49:27. > :49:33.about what makes great schools. Teaching, governments and so on. Mr
:49:34. > :49:36.Deputy Speaker, turning to our universities, in the last parliament
:49:37. > :49:41.we put in place the essential funding reforms that have set
:49:42. > :49:46.universities finances on a stable footing and enabled us to lift its
:49:47. > :49:50.Juden number controls. I'm grateful to the Minister for giving way. As
:49:51. > :49:53.well as increasing the level of Jewish and fees, the government is
:49:54. > :50:00.also proposing to extend them to students of nursing, midwifery...
:50:01. > :50:03.This is the biggest shake-up in funding since 1968 and will
:50:04. > :50:07.Beaminster give us a commitment those changes will be made on the
:50:08. > :50:13.face of the education ale in order there can be a full debate in this
:50:14. > :50:17.house and a vote on that measure? We are delighted that we are able to
:50:18. > :50:24.put NHS bursary is on the same footing as has enabled a widening of
:50:25. > :50:30.participation in higher education in recent years, said that we address
:50:31. > :50:34.the shortage is that we've seen in the nursing profession as a result
:50:35. > :50:39.of the current system. Turning to our universities, in the last
:50:40. > :50:43.Parliament we put in place essential funding reforms that have set
:50:44. > :50:45.universities finances on a stable footing and enabled us to lift
:50:46. > :50:52.number controls that have been affecting nursing profession. We
:50:53. > :50:56.committed to ensuring the committed success and stability of these
:50:57. > :50:59.reforms and we also committed to ensuring that universities deliver
:51:00. > :51:05.the best possible value for money to students. And we said we would
:51:06. > :51:07.introduce a new framework of incentives to recognise universities
:51:08. > :51:13.offering the highest quality of teaching. The Bill, introduced in
:51:14. > :51:17.the Commons last week, will deliver on these and other manifesto
:51:18. > :51:22.commitments. I'll happily give way. He will be aware that until this
:51:23. > :51:26.month, Suffolk was one of the only counties in the country with no
:51:27. > :51:30.university that fits that technical description, so can I offer him my
:51:31. > :51:34.profound thanks and that of our county that he has given permission
:51:35. > :51:37.for the creation of a brand-new University of Suffolk, and will he
:51:38. > :51:42.congratulate all those that worked for this and join me in wishing them
:51:43. > :51:46.well for the future. Yes, I'll happily join him in congratulating
:51:47. > :51:49.the new University of. It is terrific that one of four counties
:51:50. > :51:54.in this country that didn't have a university now does. There are three
:51:55. > :51:58.others and we're hoping new institutions, which we are hoping to
:51:59. > :52:04.encourage of similar quality to the University of offer, will soon come
:52:05. > :52:14.in and cover the cold spots which we have inherited. Can I congratulate
:52:15. > :52:19.my honourable friend on the new University project in Herefordshire
:52:20. > :52:23.which is under way. That is not merely aim to transform higher
:52:24. > :52:26.education in my county. And to create extraordinary economic
:52:27. > :52:33.potential. But also to innovate across the country as a whole in
:52:34. > :52:37.areas of tying higher education together and using all the resources
:52:38. > :52:44.of those different aspects towards greater in point but it. With the
:52:45. > :52:50.support of colleges here and in America. In order to make that
:52:51. > :52:54.vision happen, does he agree it's important not just for central
:52:55. > :52:58.government to give a lead, as he has done, artful local government,
:52:59. > :53:08.grants and central government guarantees, and private eye to come
:53:09. > :53:13.together as a single hub? Thank you. We are delighted to be supporting
:53:14. > :53:17.this great new venture in Herefordshire. The new model in
:53:18. > :53:20.technology and engineering which addresses several long-standing
:53:21. > :53:26.problems, skills shortages in engineering. We welcome this and we
:53:27. > :53:29.welcome its arrival and collaboration with world leading
:53:30. > :53:34.institutions from the United States, and we want to see more such
:53:35. > :53:41.institutions, and I applaud the honourable member for Herefordshire
:53:42. > :53:46.and his other Hereford MP Coley, no longer here, who has just left the
:53:47. > :53:51.chamber, for their tireless work in championing this new institution.
:53:52. > :53:55.England's universities rank among the best in the world. They generate
:53:56. > :54:01.the knowledge, skills and attitude that fuel our economy and sustain
:54:02. > :54:03.our open society but the world of higher education has changed
:54:04. > :54:08.fundamentally since the last major legislative reforms of 1992, and our
:54:09. > :54:14.system needs to meet new challenges. A rapid increase in jobs requiring
:54:15. > :54:18.high and level skills has created a worldwide demand for more graduate
:54:19. > :54:24.employees and for greater diversity of higher education provision. Yet,
:54:25. > :54:27.in this country, we are still well below the OECD average for
:54:28. > :54:31.university attendance, was proportionately fewer to university
:54:32. > :54:37.to study at an undergraduate level than our main competitors.
:54:38. > :54:42.First-time entrants were 48% versus 55% for the OECD average in 2013. We
:54:43. > :54:48.also lagged behind when it comes to further studies. First entry rates
:54:49. > :54:52.to Masters courses are only 15% versus 20% for the OECD average. We
:54:53. > :54:57.are also far from eating our economy's needs for graduate level
:54:58. > :55:05.skills. Between now and 2022, over half of job vacancies will be and
:55:06. > :55:09.occupations most likely to have graduates. We need to remove
:55:10. > :55:14.barriers to entry high quality new entrants to help meet the demand for
:55:15. > :55:19.skilled graduates. Given the Minister has outlined the desperate
:55:20. > :55:24.need for skilled graduate employees, why is his government so reticent to
:55:25. > :55:31.reintroduce the post study work Visa for Scotland's? Mr Deputy Speaker,
:55:32. > :55:36.we have a very successful international education export
:55:37. > :55:41.sector in this country. We have a market share globally of over 10%,
:55:42. > :55:46.which we are holding. We see annual growth in international student
:55:47. > :55:50.numbers of between 3-4% a year. We are attentive to the need to remain
:55:51. > :55:58.competitive but we have a successful international educational sector,
:55:59. > :56:02.and we have to drive up the quality of the student experience on offer
:56:03. > :56:11.in all our universities. I will give way. On the note of the skills gap
:56:12. > :56:14.that he referred to, he knows that characteristically in the south-west
:56:15. > :56:20.we are below productivity levels, and what would make a big difference
:56:21. > :56:23.in my constituency is actually university to help skill up those
:56:24. > :56:28.young people that I fear we're losing to other places, like
:56:29. > :56:34.Hereford. I completely agree with my honourable friend. Universities are
:56:35. > :56:39.read great driver of regional and local economic growth, and there has
:56:40. > :56:43.been an LSE study that came out recently that demonstrated this very
:56:44. > :56:45.strong correlation between opening new universities and significantly
:56:46. > :57:03.increased economic growth. They estimate the doubling universities
:57:04. > :57:07.is related to GDP. On skills, we all understood the government was going
:57:08. > :57:11.to publish a skills White Paper. That appears to have been downgraded
:57:12. > :57:20.to a skills plan. Has that change been made, and, if so, why? The
:57:21. > :57:24.honourable member should wait a little bit longer and he will see
:57:25. > :57:29.the full fruits of the work of my friend, the skills minister, and
:57:30. > :57:35.colleagues in the Department of education, led by the expert panel,
:57:36. > :57:41.chaired by Lord Sainsbury. At the same time, continuing with why our
:57:42. > :57:44.higher education needs to meet new challenges, at the same time, the
:57:45. > :57:49.system needs to be more innovative, so it meets the diverse needs of
:57:50. > :57:54.learners of all ages and employers of all sizes. As promised in our
:57:55. > :57:57.manifesto, we will promote more flexible learning, including the
:57:58. > :58:01.provision of two-year degrees, and degree apprenticeships. And we need
:58:02. > :58:05.the system to be delivering outcomes for those that go through it, and
:58:06. > :58:11.for the taxpayers that underwrite it. At the same time as employers
:58:12. > :58:16.suffer skills shortages, especially in highly skilled STEM areas, we see
:58:17. > :58:21.20% of graduates winding up in nonprofessional rolls 3.5 years
:58:22. > :58:26.after graduating. This graduate labour market mismatch is a waste of
:58:27. > :58:33.their potential and Dave brake on our productivity as an economy. --
:58:34. > :58:38.and a break. What he agree with me that it's also important that we use
:58:39. > :58:44.our local enterprise partnerships in order to invigorate where the needs
:58:45. > :58:47.are and how we can meet those needs, and not Tony has my honourable
:58:48. > :58:52.friend mentioned the University of Suffolk camp but my own West Suffolk
:58:53. > :58:59.College has had an ?8 million stimulus from our new Anglia LEP.
:59:00. > :59:04.Yes, we certainly agree with all of that. Universities are the heart of
:59:05. > :59:09.many of the most successful LEPs and we want to see their good work
:59:10. > :59:12.stimulator economic growth and relevant provision of higher
:59:13. > :59:18.education in their local areas by universities. That's why at the
:59:19. > :59:21.heart of this Bill our powers to make it easier for high quality new
:59:22. > :59:24.universities and Challenger into douches to enter the sector and
:59:25. > :59:30.award degrees, to drive up quality and to give applicants more choice
:59:31. > :59:33.about where and how to study. There are some who say close the door to
:59:34. > :59:39.new universities, put the cap back on student numbers, restrict the
:59:40. > :59:44.benefits of higher education to a narrow elite. We've heard the same
:59:45. > :59:50.arguments at every period of university expansion. In the 1820s,
:59:51. > :59:54.UCL and kings were dismissed as Cockney universities. Today, they
:59:55. > :00:00.are globally renowned universities. We heard it at the time, the Civic
:00:01. > :00:05.colleges in Manchester, earning, Liverpool, Leeds, Sheffield and
:00:06. > :00:08.Bristol became redbrick universities before the First World War, and we
:00:09. > :00:13.heard it when the Conservative government of John Major was putting
:00:14. > :00:19.through Parliament the 1992 act that created a wave of new universities
:00:20. > :00:24.out of the politic mix. We need more universities again today.
:00:25. > :00:27.Universities are great engines of social mobility, and formidable
:00:28. > :00:30.drivers of regional economic growth, which is why I was so pleased to
:00:31. > :00:35.welcome the announcement of the University of Southampton, and I'm
:00:36. > :00:38.so supportive of the Hereford plans. These are just two good examples of
:00:39. > :00:43.the challenge institutions we have in mind in opening up the sector to
:00:44. > :00:48.new high-quality entrants, and we welcome support for our proposals
:00:49. > :00:52.from sensible figures, such as Lord Mandelson, now chancellor of
:00:53. > :00:55.Manchester Metropolitan, one of those very institutions that gained
:00:56. > :01:00.university thanks to a Conservative government in 1992. As he put it,
:01:01. > :01:05.who have recognised the essential contribution, a wide range of
:01:06. > :01:08.institutions can make to our economic success and social mobility
:01:09. > :01:17.in this country. I'm happy to give way. Well, thank goodness for that!
:01:18. > :01:21.Just to make it clear to the honourable gentleman, nobody on this
:01:22. > :01:30.side of the house objects to expanding the university sector. We
:01:31. > :01:34.do have and we are right to ask about the speed of which that will
:01:35. > :01:39.be done, how probationary status will work and what kind of gamble
:01:40. > :01:41.that will represent, and we will go on asking those questions. The
:01:42. > :01:46.honourable gentleman shouldn't set up a straw man or woman and tried to
:01:47. > :01:54.accuse us of being against expansion. We aren't but it has to
:01:55. > :01:57.be high-quality! I am delighted the Shadow Secretary of State is
:01:58. > :01:59.supportive of new entrants, new challenge institutions. It is
:02:00. > :02:04.exactly what the sector needs and I'm glad we have established that
:02:05. > :02:07.important point of principle that you are supportive of new entrants
:02:08. > :02:13.into the sector and that you believe in competition. But a good thing I'm
:02:14. > :02:18.delighted to hear it. Can I just caution my friend the Minister not
:02:19. > :02:22.to be so quick to assume the opposition will be as supportive as
:02:23. > :02:25.perhaps they say today. Take a lesson from the expense of the
:02:26. > :02:28.Labour Party when it came to introducing competition in schools
:02:29. > :02:35.with the introduction of free schools. We faced extensive
:02:36. > :02:39.opposition from Labour councils at local level, from vested interests
:02:40. > :02:41.that even though they talk about improving the quality, they hated
:02:42. > :02:48.the competition which delivered choice to parents and students.
:02:49. > :02:54.I hope my right honourable friend will be proven wrong but I suspect
:02:55. > :02:58.he may be proved right in the course of this bill when we discover the
:02:59. > :03:04.true colours of the party opposite and it real desire to see
:03:05. > :03:10.competition in the sector, which I somewhat doubt. The former Business
:03:11. > :03:14.Secretary of state is right. The higher education Bill we introduced
:03:15. > :03:17.last week represent an ambitious agenda for social mobility. Some
:03:18. > :03:22.said when we reform the student finance but this person --
:03:23. > :03:29.participation would fall. Everyone on the opposite benches dead. That
:03:30. > :03:32.is not the case. We have made progressive student loan system
:03:33. > :03:37.ensuring finance is no barrier to entry, and that is working. Students
:03:38. > :03:46.from disadvantaged backgrounds are going to university at a record of.
:03:47. > :03:52.13% in 2009 to 15% in 2015. Labour were wrong then and wrong now.
:03:53. > :03:54.You're now 36% more likely to go to university if you're from
:03:55. > :03:58.disadvantaged backgrounds than in 2009. If the right honourable member
:03:59. > :04:05.wants to comment on this I will happily take an intervention
:04:06. > :04:10.nothing? OK. We are not complacent. The Prime Minister has set a
:04:11. > :04:16.challenging call to double potatoes and -- -- participation rates for
:04:17. > :04:24.disadvantaged by 2020. The Sutton trust shows only 3% of disadvantaged
:04:25. > :04:28.pupils go to the highest universities. It's a product that
:04:29. > :04:34.record was much indeed. That is why I have just written to the director
:04:35. > :04:40.of the access giving him all the political cover he needs to drive
:04:41. > :04:43.further progress in widening participation at the most selective
:04:44. > :04:48.institutions in this country. Furthermore we are strengthening
:04:49. > :04:54.access agreements more generally and they will now cover both access and
:04:55. > :04:57.participation so students receive support the needs right the way
:04:58. > :05:05.through their courses, not just at the point of entry. And we will give
:05:06. > :05:09.the director fair access and participation in greater set of
:05:10. > :05:12.sanctions to help ensure universities deliver the agreements
:05:13. > :05:16.they have made with him. We know some students face additional
:05:17. > :05:20.barriers in accessing higher education because, in some cases
:05:21. > :05:24.their religious beliefs mean they are unable to take on
:05:25. > :05:28.interest-bearing loans which is why, subject to Parliament, we will be
:05:29. > :05:32.the first Government to introduce an alternative student finance product
:05:33. > :05:36.that will support the students enjoy education. This, combined with other
:05:37. > :05:44.measures, will help us meet our goal of increasing the number of people
:05:45. > :05:46.from disadvantaged backgrounds, one third of whom are Muslim, going to
:05:47. > :05:51.university. We are committed to increasing the number by 2020. The
:05:52. > :05:56.Minister will know I have been writing to this department is about
:05:57. > :06:01.compliant loans and the thing missing for students who are put off
:06:02. > :06:05.by the failure to provide this product is a timetable for when it
:06:06. > :06:13.will be available sharia compliant loans. Can he commits a timetable
:06:14. > :06:18.for communities like mine can access these products? I congratulate the
:06:19. > :06:26.right honourable member for her contribution towards this campaign.
:06:27. > :06:29.This Government was the first to consult on how such a product and
:06:30. > :06:35.what the man they might be for such a product. We now have a legislative
:06:36. > :06:39.vehicle with which to introduce it and we are moving at full speed and
:06:40. > :06:43.the sooner you let this bill through the house the sooner we can crack on
:06:44. > :06:50.and deliver the alternative finance product you want to see.
:06:51. > :06:55.Thanks to the reforms we are already making to part-time and postgraduate
:06:56. > :07:01.study also a clear message to people in this country that it is never too
:07:02. > :07:04.late to learn. This Government is transforming the funding landscape
:07:05. > :07:10.for part-time and postgraduate study. We are, for the first time,
:07:11. > :07:14.introducing a maintenance loans for part-time undergraduates in addition
:07:15. > :07:17.to the tuition fee loans made available in the previous
:07:18. > :07:22.parliament. We are continuing to reverse Labour's restriction on
:07:23. > :07:31.studying for a second degree so you can get your student loan to take a
:07:32. > :07:37.second part-time degree in a sub mac subject. We are introducing finance
:07:38. > :07:42.for postgraduate study. -- STEM subjects. We are giving people the
:07:43. > :07:53.opportunities they need to gain new skills at every stage of their
:07:54. > :07:55.lives. Would-be Minister outline the Government's commitment to support
:07:56. > :08:01.the interrogation of refugees, not just with English-language, -- not
:08:02. > :08:06.least with English language, which is a crucial component in their
:08:07. > :08:10.learning. We are committed to supporting refugees as they enter
:08:11. > :08:13.higher education and will look closely at that any gaps, with
:08:14. > :08:18.respect to English language provision.
:08:19. > :08:23.Turning to a question any opposition's Amendment, could only
:08:24. > :08:27.take the steps we have taken to wider participation in higher
:08:28. > :08:31.education because the decision, the difficult decisions taken as a
:08:32. > :08:35.Government to ensure our universities are sustainable
:08:36. > :08:45.finance. They are. Total funding for the sector has increased from 22
:08:46. > :08:51.billion in 2009 - ten, two 28 million in 2014-15 and is forecast
:08:52. > :08:55.to reach 31 billion by 2017 - 18. The OECD said or approach means
:08:56. > :09:00.we're one of the few countries in the world to half of a sustainable
:09:01. > :09:04.approach to financing in modern system of higher education. Our
:09:05. > :09:07.economy needs a world-class higher education system and we cannot allow
:09:08. > :09:14.a situation where our universities are once again underfunded. The
:09:15. > :09:20.?9,000 tuition fee of 2012 has already fallen in real term value to
:09:21. > :09:24.?8,500. If we leave it and change it will be worth ?8,000 by the end of
:09:25. > :09:31.this Parliament. We want to ensure our universities have the funding
:09:32. > :09:34.they need and every student receives the high quality experience for the
:09:35. > :09:38.time it in higher education. I am not the First Minister to the
:09:39. > :09:41.variability in teaching quality or imbalance between teaching and
:09:42. > :09:45.research in the higher education system. Labour ministers for many
:09:46. > :09:49.governments or many governments have made exactly the same point but it
:09:50. > :09:53.will be a Conservative Government that will actually do something
:09:54. > :09:56.about it. We want to shine a spotlight on good practice, give
:09:57. > :10:00.applicants more information about the type of teaching and graduate
:10:01. > :10:05.outcomes they can expect and raise the status of excellent duress
:10:06. > :10:08.teaching and that is why we are implementing our manifesto
:10:09. > :10:11.commitment to introduce a teaching excellence of famotidine up the
:10:12. > :10:19.quality of teaching and spread best practice. -- excellence of teaching.
:10:20. > :10:28.It's worth noting the irony that it was a Labour Government under Tony
:10:29. > :10:30.Blair that in 2004 sensible Blake put in place new legal powers
:10:31. > :10:37.allowing governments to maintain university fees in line with
:10:38. > :10:43.inflation. For the 2017-18 academic year I can confirm the rate of
:10:44. > :10:44.inflation apply to maximum fees applied to institutions
:10:45. > :10:54.demonstrating high quality teaching us 2.8%. The measure we are using a
:10:55. > :10:58.set out by measures introduced by Labour in 2006. The party opposite
:10:59. > :11:03.might have changed their views on that entire era and no longer
:11:04. > :11:06.support the policy it itself introduced but we on the scent will
:11:07. > :11:17.refuse to allow students learning to suffer. -- are we on this side.
:11:18. > :11:21.Allowing the value of maximum fees permitted by legislation to be
:11:22. > :11:25.maintained in real terms is essential if universities are to
:11:26. > :11:34.continue to be able to deliver high quality teaching. He is making a
:11:35. > :11:41.very credible case and does he agree that if we do not find better
:11:42. > :11:46.quality degrees through this system the only alternative is to taxation
:11:47. > :11:53.or borrowing levied across the whole populist who do not necessarily
:11:54. > :11:58.benefit from higher education? -- through the whole population. My
:11:59. > :12:04.right honourable friend makes the point perfectly. The alternative to
:12:05. > :12:08.what we're doing is in general -- greater burden on general taxpayers
:12:09. > :12:13.who have lower lifetime earnings than those who benefited from a
:12:14. > :12:18.university education. In the case of wood and they will lifetime earnings
:12:19. > :12:31.?250,000 higher than nongraduates. -- in the case of women. For men it
:12:32. > :12:35.is ?170,000. I find it interesting the Minister
:12:36. > :12:39.is accepting that is a need to keep in line with increasing costs in the
:12:40. > :12:48.university sector but does not accept the same for further
:12:49. > :12:52.education in our school system. Our our Father education budget has been
:12:53. > :12:55.protected and we to prioritise apprenticeships as one of our most
:12:56. > :13:04.important policies and for the committed to achieving 3 million
:13:05. > :13:09.high quality apprenticeships. There are also clear in the support for
:13:10. > :13:13.our intention to link access to this limited inflation uplift to an
:13:14. > :13:18.assessment of quality. A principle we have long accepted for the
:13:19. > :13:21.funding of research in our universities. It was a Conservative
:13:22. > :13:26.Government that brought in the first research assessment exercise in 1986
:13:27. > :13:30.and it is now doubts our rigorous system of only funding excellent and
:13:31. > :13:35.delivered up the quality of our research over the last three
:13:36. > :13:40.decades. Look at the statistics. The UK recently overtook the US to and
:13:41. > :13:46.trust among compilations for field within citations and back. With just
:13:47. > :13:50.0.9 of the world's population and 3.2% of research and development
:13:51. > :13:55.expenditure the UK accounts for 60% of whom more highly cited articles.
:13:56. > :14:04.Now is the time to extend that -- 16%. We should link teaching
:14:05. > :14:11.excellence not just a student numbers in the way we have long and
:14:12. > :14:15.successfully done for research. There were two very interesting
:14:16. > :14:19.omissions from the right honourable lady from the other side. One
:14:20. > :14:26.involved the fact not one mention of what students want out of this which
:14:27. > :14:29.is higher quality teaching. The second got massive omission, was if
:14:30. > :14:33.teaching quality decreases then the fees at the crease as well which
:14:34. > :14:40.gives a mass of carrot to all the universities to improve the quality
:14:41. > :14:45.of teaching. We are putting in place the reputational and financial
:14:46. > :14:47.incentives to spread best practice and the teaching excellence
:14:48. > :14:52.framework will be an important part of that. The inflationary uplift and
:14:53. > :14:57.we are allowing universities who demonstrate high quality teaching is
:14:58. > :15:03.a ?12 billion investment in the skills base of this country over the
:15:04. > :15:07.next decade. It is now up to the opposition to explain how they will
:15:08. > :15:12.make this shortfall in university funding. Either it will mean cutting
:15:13. > :15:17.resources from our universities, risking the sustainability of our
:15:18. > :15:22.world-class sector and leading to do be introduction of aspiration
:15:23. > :15:29.limiting student number controls, or it will be the classic Labour Party
:15:30. > :15:34.response, which we are already beginning to see articulated to any
:15:35. > :15:38.policy challenging, more spending, more taxes, more borrowing, more
:15:39. > :15:48.debt. Members opposite might heed the words of Ed balls. He originally
:15:49. > :15:53.told the Times that Labour, clearly did not find a sustainable way
:15:54. > :15:57.forward for the financing of higher education. He described that failure
:15:58. > :16:02.in the run-up to the last election as, a blot on Labour's copybook.
:16:03. > :16:07.Indeed it is and the shame is the clearly still have not learned the
:16:08. > :16:12.lessons. We are fulfilling our manifesto commitment to ensure the
:16:13. > :16:17.continuing success of our reforms, balancing the interests of taxpayers
:16:18. > :16:20.and students. We have struck a balance, numbers of disadvantaged
:16:21. > :16:25.students are at record levels of university funding it up, research
:16:26. > :16:28.funding is predicted this is a one nation Queen's
:16:29. > :16:32.nation Government and through our proposals we are extending the
:16:33. > :16:35.benefits of education to school pupils and students across the
:16:36. > :16:43.country and we must never let the party opposite put that at risk. May
:16:44. > :16:49.I remind the house after the SNP spokesperson there will be
:16:50. > :16:54.five-minute limit on all speeches. I am grateful for this opportunity to
:16:55. > :16:59.take part in this debate. Given the subject of the debate before I begin
:17:00. > :17:04.in earnest, I should declare to the house my wife is a primary school
:17:05. > :17:07.teacher in Scotland. I would like to put on record my welcome for the new
:17:08. > :17:11.Scottish Government seem an odd spike the First Minister Nicola
:17:12. > :17:21.Sturgeon last week and in particular new members of the Cabinet. --
:17:22. > :17:24.Scottish Government Cabinet. I look forward to working with all my
:17:25. > :17:29.friends and colleagues in the interests of the people of Scotland.
:17:30. > :17:35.It would be remiss of me not to pay tribute to College leaving the
:17:36. > :17:41.Scottish Cabinet, which Lochhead, Scotland's rural affairs Secretary
:17:42. > :17:46.for nine years and stood up for Scottish farming and the food and
:17:47. > :17:56.drink sector. Also might constituency counterpart Alex Neil.
:17:57. > :18:00.After driving infrastructure and health portfolios in his imaginative
:18:01. > :18:05.and diligent way. I wish them all the best.
:18:06. > :18:13.So far up the successive days of debate we have had had more far more
:18:14. > :18:16.substance than the government's programme in itself. This was an
:18:17. > :18:21.utterly vacuous Queen's Speech with very little cheer and even less of
:18:22. > :18:24.relevance to the people of Scotland. The SNP is the widely acknowledged
:18:25. > :18:29.effective opposition in this place and it put forward an alternative
:18:30. > :18:33.Queen's Speech, an alternative programme for government and an
:18:34. > :18:35.alternative to austerity. We have proposed 15 bills which we believe
:18:36. > :18:40.the government should have considered as part of its programme.
:18:41. > :18:43.These bills of substance and would have made a real difference to
:18:44. > :18:48.people up and down these Isles who have been hammered by Tory
:18:49. > :18:53.austerity, a political and ideological choice, not an economic
:18:54. > :18:56.necessity. While the bills contained in the Queen's Speech regarding
:18:57. > :19:01.education, skills and training and access to employment, the subject of
:19:02. > :19:05.this debate relate to England I will certainly but they serve to
:19:06. > :19:08.highlight the contrasting approach to these important matters between
:19:09. > :19:13.the SNP, Scottish Government, which has independent power over education
:19:14. > :19:17.and the Conservative UK Government. The great spectre hanging over the
:19:18. > :19:23.higher education and research bill is that of students facing fees of
:19:24. > :19:27.up to and is now more than ?9,000 per year. Scottish students access
:19:28. > :19:32.their university education without fees. Members will be interested to
:19:33. > :19:36.note that the right Honourable member for tartan, the chance of the
:19:37. > :19:41.exchequer, promised that the Conservative Party when electing
:19:42. > :19:45.government would scrap tuition fees altogether but what a Damascene
:19:46. > :19:49.conversion we have seen. He wants to see tuition fees rise even further.
:19:50. > :19:55.Following the elections in Scotland it is clear that the government's
:19:56. > :19:58.Tory colleagues up the road falling suit -- right following suit, as
:19:59. > :20:02.they are about back door taxes for students as well. Members opposite
:20:03. > :20:05.and our colleagues in Scotland to benefit from free tuition now wish
:20:06. > :20:11.to pull that ladder from behind them. The SNP government has
:20:12. > :20:15.guaranteed free university tuition in Scotland had to maintain a
:20:16. > :20:20.principle that access to university education must be about your ability
:20:21. > :20:25.to learn, not your ability to pay. It is worth noting at this stage
:20:26. > :20:34.that more of our population in Scotland is educated beyond school
:20:35. > :20:37.than any other European country, at 46.5% educated at tertiary level and
:20:38. > :20:39.a high percentage of young people now leave school for a positive
:20:40. > :20:44.destination than any time on record. One area where the UK Government
:20:45. > :20:48.sadly retains control over education in Scotland is in relation to the
:20:49. > :20:53.non-EU graduate's right to remain a work in the UK after studying here.
:20:54. > :20:59.Abolishment of the post-study work Visa for students was a regressive
:21:00. > :21:03.step which has reduced our ability to retain world-class talents for
:21:04. > :21:08.highly skilled and much-needed positions. It seems foolish, a
:21:09. > :21:12.foolish position to take but it is a good idea for the students to
:21:13. > :21:16.benefit from our world-class universities, but to disallow
:21:17. > :21:20.ourselves from benefiting from their skills and talents once they have
:21:21. > :21:23.finished their education here. The Smith commission report stated that
:21:24. > :21:28.the Scottish and UK governments should work together to explore the
:21:29. > :21:31.possibility of introducing formal schemes to allow international
:21:32. > :21:35.higher education students graduating from Scottish further and higher
:21:36. > :21:39.education institutions to remain in Scotland and contribute to economic
:21:40. > :21:45.activity for a defined period of time. At the time of the Smith
:21:46. > :21:50.discussions a letter was spent to representative organisations warning
:21:51. > :21:54.that the removal of the UK wide post-study work Visa in 2012 had
:21:55. > :21:58.resulted in a significant fall in the number of international students
:21:59. > :22:03.coming to Scotland. At a time when it is crucial, as we heard from the
:22:04. > :22:08.minister, who has left its place, that we address skills shortages in
:22:09. > :22:10.key areas of industry, to improve economic growth it is extremely
:22:11. > :22:14.disappointing that this Queen's Speech makes no mention of the
:22:15. > :22:19.introduction of the scheme in Scotland. In 2015 the post study
:22:20. > :22:23.working group set up by the Scottish Government to provide a view from
:22:24. > :22:27.the business and tertiary education sector is on the impact of the
:22:28. > :22:33.removal of a work scheme in Scotland at how such a scheme should operate
:22:34. > :22:36.if introduced concluded that, and I quote, introducing a poster they
:22:37. > :22:39.were written Scotland would benefit Scottish economic growth and
:22:40. > :22:43.business development as well as enriching the learning experience
:22:44. > :22:48.for all students by attracting more international students to Scotland.
:22:49. > :22:53.In February of this year the Holyrood devolution commission, made
:22:54. > :22:56.up of MSPs from all five political parties unanimously recommended that
:22:57. > :22:59.the Home Office change this policy and it is therefore extremely
:23:00. > :23:04.disappointing that the UK Government seem unwilling to listen to the
:23:05. > :23:08.views of a diverse range of political parties and organisations
:23:09. > :23:13.in Scotland on this matter. In our alternative Queen's speech we have
:23:14. > :23:16.progressed I get -- proposed a migration bill which would include
:23:17. > :23:20.the reintroduction of the post study work Visa and as highlighted at
:23:21. > :23:23.Prime Minister's Questions by my right honourable friend from Murray,
:23:24. > :23:30.as well as my honourable friend from Glasgow North and latterly the local
:23:31. > :23:34.MP, the disgraceful treatment of the brain family highlights the
:23:35. > :23:41.desperate need for the Visa reintroduction. There is also an
:23:42. > :23:45.urgent need for changes to the government's approach on access to
:23:46. > :23:48.employment, employment support and training and skills, all issues that
:23:49. > :23:51.have been run down by this government's actions today and
:23:52. > :23:54.reckless cuts to government spending. We want to see an
:23:55. > :23:58.emergency summer Budget to boost investment in public services and
:23:59. > :24:03.stimulate GDP growth and support wage growth and increased taxes
:24:04. > :24:11.beats and boost productivity. All the Tory rhetoric a long-term
:24:12. > :24:14.economic plan the speech includes no recommendation of havoc among will
:24:15. > :24:19.boost productivity and economic growth in the long run. Members on
:24:20. > :24:24.the benches opposite feel betrayed that there was no mention of the
:24:25. > :24:29.much vaunted white Paper on health and work, which was supposed to
:24:30. > :24:36.compensate for the savage cuts to GSA rag and universal work credits.
:24:37. > :24:40.Many people were given the promise of jam tomorrow by their ministers
:24:41. > :24:43.in order to withdraw their opposition to these cuts on the
:24:44. > :24:47.basis of the White Paper being published this year. Some were right
:24:48. > :24:51.to say, as I did, and others on the benches beside me, that the White
:24:52. > :24:55.Paper should have been published before these cuts were made for
:24:56. > :25:02.exactly the scenario we now see unfolding. The cuts to GSA rag and
:25:03. > :25:05.universal credit reaping all that damage have been made and now the
:25:06. > :25:10.supposed replacement has been scrapped. The secretary of state
:25:11. > :25:12.used an appearance at the work and pensions select committee to
:25:13. > :25:17.announce that he was scrapping the proposed White Paper and taking more
:25:18. > :25:22.time to consider a green paper and he said he made it clear in his
:25:23. > :25:29.first statement in this house that he was looking to court -- to press
:25:30. > :25:32.the reset button. I asked him a direct question that day about the
:25:33. > :25:35.White Paper, when it would be published, given his predecessor
:25:36. > :25:38.told me at the last appearance at the dispatch box that it would be
:25:39. > :25:42.long before the summer, and how much money would be committed to it? The
:25:43. > :25:46.new secretary of state could not answer my questions as I post on
:25:47. > :25:57.that day, so he committed from the dispatch box to write to me on the
:25:58. > :25:59.matter. I wrote to him, as a follow-up, to request a meeting
:26:00. > :26:02.along with my honourable member friend and I am still waiting for a
:26:03. > :26:07.reply. I have repeatedly chased the matter up and perhaps now we will
:26:08. > :26:11.see a reply forthcoming. The UK Government has wasted precious time
:26:12. > :26:14.in not publishing the White Paper. I would now urge the new secretary of
:26:15. > :26:17.state to come to this house with a date for the green paper to be
:26:18. > :26:21.published. Any success will ultimately be determined by the
:26:22. > :26:26.government's willingness to engage with community and voluntary
:26:27. > :26:30.organisations as well as experts to shape any new framework. The new
:26:31. > :26:40.secretary of state at the DWP hopes to have changed the tone of the
:26:41. > :26:42.debate but what we need to see is substance so when he talks about
:26:43. > :26:45.pressing the reset button, why has he not gone back to the brutal cuts
:26:46. > :26:48.to ESA and universal credit? The lack of assistance to women born in
:26:49. > :26:53.the 1950s regarding the repeated delay and mishandled state pension
:26:54. > :26:58.entitlement which has been commendably spearheaded by the
:26:59. > :27:02.campaign members and the bedroom tax or the reforms to benefit tank
:27:03. > :27:06.capability assessment for those with mental health issues and long-term
:27:07. > :27:11.conditions, who face the stress of constant unnecessary reassessments,
:27:12. > :27:13.and the waste of money and time and additional stress caused by
:27:14. > :27:20.decisions that never should have been made in the first place. They
:27:21. > :27:24.are then overturned a tribunal. Or the two child rule, or the rate
:27:25. > :27:28.clause or any of the decisions taken by the secretary of state's
:27:29. > :27:32.predecessor, why was it that the White Paper, of all these disastrous
:27:33. > :27:37.areas of policy, that he chose to review Chris Pratt we are concerned
:27:38. > :27:40.that the valuable time to make progress on disability employment is
:27:41. > :27:43.being lost as a result of this delay and ministers should bring forward
:27:44. > :27:48.the proposals as soon as possible. The announcement of the green paper
:27:49. > :27:52.ought to be a welcome move if brought forward with urgency and
:27:53. > :27:57.real meaningful engagement with the community and voluntary sector but
:27:58. > :28:02.we remain sceptical that the Tories will rise to that challenge. They
:28:03. > :28:06.cannot be allowed to kick this any further into the long grass. The
:28:07. > :28:09.Minister must make an statement of his intentions and lay out the
:28:10. > :28:13.development of a new programme with a time frame and cuts coming down
:28:14. > :28:17.the line for the disabled, the Tories must act now. Tory
:28:18. > :28:21.backbenchers will also be interested, as we are, into how the
:28:22. > :28:25.Minister has abandoned the White Paper and we hope they will join us
:28:26. > :28:27.in calling for progress on the green paper and come forward with haste.
:28:28. > :28:46.It must be drawn to the attention the house that after the
:28:47. > :28:48.release of 49 DWP enquiry reports into the deaths of Social Security
:28:49. > :28:50.receptions -- recipients, finally released after a long freedom of
:28:51. > :28:53.information battle, we should know that 40 of the reports followed a
:28:54. > :28:55.suicide and in ten cases the recipient had been sanctioned. The
:28:56. > :28:58.peer reviews do not make a direct link between TWE policy and deaths
:28:59. > :29:03.but they do highlight the serious problems faced by claimants with
:29:04. > :29:06.complex issues, mental health challenges or learning support needs
:29:07. > :29:10.and I would hope that we can now see an end to the unwillingness of
:29:11. > :29:13.ministers to accept that their policies, however well intentioned
:29:14. > :29:18.they may think they are, are having serious consequences and could be
:29:19. > :29:24.costing lives. There must be a full review urgently to include the
:29:25. > :29:28.impact of the work capability assessments as they stand and the
:29:29. > :29:33.punishing sanctions regime and the cuts to disability support. The SNP
:29:34. > :29:38.has proposed a social equality Bill to restore work allowances for low
:29:39. > :29:41.income workers and single parents, to end maternity discrimination and
:29:42. > :29:46.further shared paternity rights for individual employers and also
:29:47. > :29:49.address the barriers to employment for disabled people. This would take
:29:50. > :29:53.matters in line with the principles by which the Scottish Government
:29:54. > :29:58.will found the new Scottish Social Security agency, by treating people
:29:59. > :30:02.with dignity and respect. Whilst the Queen 's speech did not have
:30:03. > :30:05.anything useful to say about these matters at the tail end of it we
:30:06. > :30:08.were informed that the government would hold a referendum on the
:30:09. > :30:12.membership of the European Union, which despite a lacklustre campaign
:30:13. > :30:17.so far will not have come as a revelation to many. This was
:30:18. > :30:20.followed by the vaguest of sentences notifying us that proposals would be
:30:21. > :30:23.brought forward for a British Bill of Rights. Given the vast
:30:24. > :30:26.differences that exist in the Cabinet and the government's
:30:27. > :30:29.backbenchers on the issue of membership of the European Union and
:30:30. > :30:36.the European Convention on human rights and many people losing track
:30:37. > :30:40.of who is in and out it is difficult to imagine how we could find enough
:30:41. > :30:43.comic course to agree on what such a bill would contain and the Queen 's
:30:44. > :30:46.speech did not shed any further insight into this and this is
:30:47. > :30:53.probably for this reason that the Bill of Rights will be brought
:30:54. > :30:59.before the house this year. The briefing notes for the Queen 's
:31:00. > :31:04.speech on rights say they would be based on those set out in the
:31:05. > :31:06.European Convention of human rights and also taking into account our
:31:07. > :31:10.common law tradition that suggest that while the government is
:31:11. > :31:14.sensibly distancing itself from Home Secretary's personal view on EC HRA
:31:15. > :31:19.has little of substance to say regarding the purpose or need for
:31:20. > :31:22.such a bill. A professor from the University of Cambridge stated that
:31:23. > :31:27.there is no hint of any developed thinking in the Queen's Speech about
:31:28. > :31:30.how the perceived shortcomings of the HRA ought to be addressed or how
:31:31. > :31:35.reform in this area could be reconciled with the UK remaining a
:31:36. > :31:38.part of the EC HR. If the government is unable to provide detailed
:31:39. > :31:41.answers to these points it should question whether in attempting to
:31:42. > :31:45.appease some of its own backbenchers is worth more than having sensible
:31:46. > :31:49.legislation. With regards to Scotland a key concern in this area
:31:50. > :31:53.is that government has shown little consideration has to about how this
:31:54. > :31:57.will affect the Scottish parliament and other devolved legislators in
:31:58. > :32:01.these isles. The Queen's Speech briefing notes addressed this issue
:32:02. > :32:05.only briefly. It stated that revived in the Human Rights Act can only be
:32:06. > :32:08.done by the UK Parliament and they will consult fully before bringing
:32:09. > :32:12.forward proposals and it is true that the Scottish parliament does
:32:13. > :32:15.not have power to alter the Human Rights Act but the Law Society of
:32:16. > :32:19.Scotland have argued that under demolition guidance note ten, when
:32:20. > :32:24.UK legislation will alter the legislative competence of the
:32:25. > :32:27.Scottish parliament or the executive competence of Scottish ministers,
:32:28. > :32:31.the consent of the Scottish parliament is needed. Repeal and
:32:32. > :32:36.replacement of the humans rights act would, in our view, require the
:32:37. > :32:42.amendment of the Scotland act 1998. In those respects which would affect
:32:43. > :32:44.the competences of the Parliament and the Scottish ministers. Any
:32:45. > :32:48.change to the Scotland act concerning the Human Rights Act and
:32:49. > :32:51.98, which affects the competence of the Parliament or the Scottish
:32:52. > :32:55.ministers will in terms of DGN Tenneco hard disk -- require the
:32:56. > :33:00.consent of the Scottish parliament. It is not simply a consultation with
:33:01. > :33:03.the consent from the Scottish Parliament that will be needed given
:33:04. > :33:06.that there is a clear majority in the Scottish Parliament that do not
:33:07. > :33:14.support such a change this consent is unlikely be forthcoming.
:33:15. > :33:22.Theodore Roosevelt said the credit belongs to the man who spends his
:33:23. > :33:27.time only worthy cause, and who at worst if he fails, feels well
:33:28. > :33:31.dealing greatly. In this case I believe the Prime Minister and the
:33:32. > :33:34.government have instead offered a weak and poor programme which will
:33:35. > :33:40.do little to address the needs of the people of these isles, and while
:33:41. > :33:44.some measures are to be welcomed such as the likely delivery of the
:33:45. > :33:48.universal service obligation on broadband, the Queen's Speech is yet
:33:49. > :33:52.another missed opportunity by the government to address the key
:33:53. > :33:57.issues. Instead of offering clear solutions and innovative ideas, I am
:33:58. > :34:01.afraid that in the years to come, this Queen's Speech will be
:34:02. > :34:06.remembered as an empty, vacuous and largely irrelevant sideshow from a
:34:07. > :34:10.government and party more concerned about patching over internal
:34:11. > :34:14.divisions on the issue of EU membership and jockeying for who
:34:15. > :34:18.will be the next leader than the living to the people. As a result of
:34:19. > :34:22.a large number of members having with prawn I will now raise the
:34:23. > :34:35.limit to eight minutes. Better up than down! Thank you very much. For
:34:36. > :34:42.that splendid news! I can only carry on as I normally do. I just want to
:34:43. > :34:46.talk about the actual Queen's Speech which of course is a one nation
:34:47. > :34:53.Queen's Speech and is a one nation Queen's Speech because it talks
:34:54. > :34:57.about opportunity and also productivity. Opportunity that
:34:58. > :35:05.everybody and productivity for our economy, because underneath all the
:35:06. > :35:08.21 bels lies that demand, that interest form or opportunity, fairer
:35:09. > :35:14.opportunity and the better economy delivering more productivity. I will
:35:15. > :35:19.talk about two bills in particular and one is the children and social
:35:20. > :35:25.work Bill because our committee has done some work in this field and I
:35:26. > :35:29.would invite the Secretary of State to think about what we will be
:35:30. > :35:34.seeing about social work. I will not let any cuts out of the bag because
:35:35. > :35:41.we haven't published it yet. I think it will be of interest to those
:35:42. > :35:45.considering more detail as the bill develops. One thing I am really
:35:46. > :35:49.pleased to note is we will have a care leavers covenant and that is
:35:50. > :35:53.the one thing I would say came out of some other early discussions in
:35:54. > :35:58.the education select committee about children in care with mental health
:35:59. > :36:04.difficulties who felt they were basically falling off a cliff edge,
:36:05. > :36:11.and the care leavers covenant is clearly going to prevent that from
:36:12. > :36:17.happening. Would he agree that in the work the education select
:36:18. > :36:21.committee did on clear, it was many care leavers who felt the support
:36:22. > :36:26.that children might ordinarily get from their own families was suddenly
:36:27. > :36:32.gone by the age of 18? I completely agree. My honourable friend who was
:36:33. > :36:39.a member of the education select committee at the time and that the
:36:40. > :36:44.early work, and I think the whole point of this is to make sure they
:36:45. > :36:47.do not fall over the cliff edge and children looked after by the state
:36:48. > :36:50.are particularly vulnerable to falling over that edge and we must
:36:51. > :36:56.do all we can to stop that happening. Just one quick word about
:36:57. > :37:00.regulation. We covered this in our early enquiries and I will not
:37:01. > :37:04.comment in any great detail about what that regulation framework
:37:05. > :37:12.should look like. We certainly agree that we need to see an improved
:37:13. > :37:19.regulatory offering for social work. Can I now talk about the education
:37:20. > :37:22.for all bit. I am going to start off by noting that for all means for
:37:23. > :37:26.absolutely all children and there are some children in schools
:37:27. > :37:31.unregulated and unregistered and we need to think about them as well. I
:37:32. > :37:37.will be asking the Secretary of State to give some thought as to how
:37:38. > :37:41.she will respond to the expressions by the Chief Inspector about the
:37:42. > :37:46.schools which are not effectively doing a good job and are not often
:37:47. > :37:54.seen and are beneath the radar. We need to make sure that when we see
:37:55. > :38:01.education for all, we mean all. The White Paper talks about the school
:38:02. > :38:04.led system and absolutely it should. Those of us who support the
:38:05. > :38:11.academies programme will come its continued growth. Obviously it is
:38:12. > :38:16.important for us to be sure that academies feel comfortable once they
:38:17. > :38:19.are out there and one of the reasons why the education select committee
:38:20. > :38:26.is going to be looking at what does a good trust lookalike is precisely
:38:27. > :38:30.that thought, because we do need to encourage academies to come together
:38:31. > :38:36.to support each other because this is partnership and co-operation.
:38:37. > :38:39.This is schools taking the initiative to help other schools and
:38:40. > :38:42.I think that is a combination that will work to drive up standards
:38:43. > :38:46.especially in those areas where standards are not high enough, and
:38:47. > :38:55.we know there are pockets of such places. Is he there are four in
:38:56. > :38:59.favour of Ofsted inspecting academy chains? At the moment the government
:39:00. > :39:03.prevents them from doing so so we don't know what their overheads are
:39:04. > :39:10.or what they are spending on the chief executive salary. This is a
:39:11. > :39:14.matter of the education select committee has been forceful in both
:39:15. > :39:19.the last Parliament and I expect will comment on that matter again. I
:39:20. > :39:23.am personally in favour of Academy trusts being inspector will and I
:39:24. > :39:29.think that is something we should be looking into. We will obviously
:39:30. > :39:39.comment on that when we do our enquiry in due course. I will not
:39:40. > :39:45.prejudge what that enquiry will say. Unless issue of local authorities, I
:39:46. > :39:48.think it is important that we recognise some local authorities
:39:49. > :39:53.have not delivered adequate education and there are examples in
:39:54. > :39:59.Yorkshire for example, and I think it would be helpful for the
:40:00. > :40:04.department to set out effectively the case in terms of data and maps
:40:05. > :40:11.as to where the problems are, so that members of Parliament and
:40:12. > :40:14.others can effectively calibrate the need for more academies as
:40:15. > :40:24.appropriate to that information. That will be really useful for us to
:40:25. > :40:29.have. On the issue of fairer funding because this is implicit in the
:40:30. > :40:36.White Paper, and absolutely rightly so, we need to see some improvement
:40:37. > :40:41.in funding. It's got to be the case that schools in Gloucestershire can
:40:42. > :40:46.be confident of fairer funding. I say Gloucestershire because I
:40:47. > :40:51.represent the area but that applies to a whole range of counties and
:40:52. > :40:57.urban areas as well. Fairer funding is absolutely necessary. I am really
:40:58. > :40:59.pleased that the education select committee will have the opportunity
:41:00. > :41:07.to check what is proposed by the Department. I think that is
:41:08. > :41:13.extremely helpful. We will conduct some enquiries and you course. It is
:41:14. > :41:16.very good that the Secretary of State has effectively enabled us to
:41:17. > :41:22.do so through the timescale that she has set out just as she responded to
:41:23. > :41:28.the issue of the academies when we first launched the White Paper and
:41:29. > :41:34.there was something of a furore over the scale of ambition in connection
:41:35. > :41:38.with academies. So it is in the same vein that I make my next point about
:41:39. > :41:46.cooperation and opportunity to consider. I think it would be really
:41:47. > :41:50.helpful with the education for all bill was published soon so that we
:41:51. > :41:56.could have an opportunity for pre-legislative scrutiny, that might
:41:57. > :42:02.be a useful opportunity to look at some of the detail behind what is a
:42:03. > :42:09.feeling local authority, what would be a local authority which is
:42:10. > :42:15.effectively beneath the capacity threshold which would be defined in
:42:16. > :42:21.terms of whether or not it should cease to be a provider of schools
:42:22. > :42:24.and so on. That opportunity would help members of Parliament to
:42:25. > :42:29.understand more clearly the direction of travel and perhaps see
:42:30. > :42:34.a way forward. I invite the Secretary of State to consider that
:42:35. > :42:40.proposal and I know the legislative programme is tight and I know there
:42:41. > :42:47.are few opportunities for delay, but I do think that would be a good
:42:48. > :42:50.contribution to the debate. I am going to end on something that I
:42:51. > :42:57.think would be important and it is this. I was reading with interest
:42:58. > :42:59.these thoughts of the Institute for Fiscal Studies, an independent and
:43:00. > :43:02.very authoritative organisation picking up the point about whether
:43:03. > :43:08.or not we should be in the European Union. And noting that if we left
:43:09. > :43:14.the economy would be smaller in size by about 15 billion within about two
:43:15. > :43:19.years. These are figures which are bandied about frequently and
:43:20. > :43:26.understood by many. And the ISS is not the only leading authority to
:43:27. > :43:30.basically point out our economy is doing well precisely because we are
:43:31. > :43:35.part of the European Union. I mention this because throughout the
:43:36. > :43:39.Queen's Speech there was an awful lot of dependency on public
:43:40. > :43:43.expenditure. We will deliver an education system which is ambitious
:43:44. > :43:48.and successful as the Secretary of State intends it to be, we are going
:43:49. > :43:54.to have to pay for it. It'll be harder to pay for it if we kept
:43:55. > :43:57.ourselves the shins by leaving the European Union and reducing the size
:43:58. > :44:02.of our economy and therefore making it harder to meet public expenditure
:44:03. > :44:11.pledges we might wish to have in the future. I would suggest that it is
:44:12. > :44:17.really important that we do remain in the European Union precisely to
:44:18. > :44:23.the lover our ambitions. I have just spotted somebody must be trying to
:44:24. > :44:27.intervene because my honourable friend has helpfully informed
:44:28. > :44:33.everybody that I am completely deaf in my left ear! I find that always
:44:34. > :44:37.quite useful, certainly in family conditions and often in politics but
:44:38. > :44:43.not with my honourable friend wants to intervene. I thank my honourable
:44:44. > :44:46.friend. That must also be the reason why sometimes my husband doesn't
:44:47. > :44:53.respond when cold, obviously deaf in one ear. The point I was trying to
:44:54. > :44:57.make is not only is it important we are part of the European Union for
:44:58. > :45:02.the reasons he outlined but also in order to ensure that our young
:45:03. > :45:13.people have access to broaden educational environments such as the
:45:14. > :45:17.Erasmus programme. Thank you. I am very grateful to have the chance to
:45:18. > :45:20.speak in this debate. I am pleased to be following the chain of the
:45:21. > :45:24.select committee and they agree with a good deal of what he said on our
:45:25. > :45:29.membership of the EU and I also agree with him in his invitation to
:45:30. > :45:32.the Secretary of State to publish the education for all Bill in time
:45:33. > :45:36.for the select committee to undertake some pre-legislative
:45:37. > :45:40.scrutiny. That would be very valuable, and it is on that bill I
:45:41. > :45:47.want to focus my remarks this afternoon. I wanted to start by
:45:48. > :45:54.welcoming warmer leave the abandonment of the Pledge of
:45:55. > :45:58.universalisation by 2022. That is a very welcome U-turn. I am pleased
:45:59. > :46:02.the honourable member for Worcestershire is in his place
:46:03. > :46:07.because he and I had a debate about this on the radio and I made the
:46:08. > :46:10.point that it was absolutely clear there wasn't the support on the
:46:11. > :46:17.Conservative benches to get that legislation through house. He
:46:18. > :46:23.assured the listeners to the programme that actually it was all
:46:24. > :46:28.absolutely fine, but I am delighted the Secretary of State recognised
:46:29. > :46:34.that I was right about this and he wasn't. I do pay tributes to her as
:46:35. > :46:38.well for at least executing the U-turn were commendable speed and
:46:39. > :46:42.not dragging out the agony over a long period as we have sometimes
:46:43. > :46:46.seen in the past. I don't think it was ever have an idea we should
:46:47. > :46:50.force all schools to become academies and I am glad she has
:46:51. > :46:57.dropped it, but it is disappointing that the bill still has the aim
:46:58. > :47:01.according to the documentation along the Queen's Speech to move towards a
:47:02. > :47:07.system where all schools and academies and I do think that
:47:08. > :47:13.ministers should be listening not least a headteachers about this very
:47:14. > :47:17.important subject because the National Association of head
:47:18. > :47:22.teachers says that aim, the declared aim of this bill, and I quote, good
:47:23. > :47:27.and outstanding schools should still be made to convert regardless of the
:47:28. > :47:30.professional judgment of school leaders, the opposition of parents
:47:31. > :47:35.and the best interests of local communities. I really think that a
:47:36. > :47:39.Conservative government ought to be listening to headteachers, to
:47:40. > :47:43.parents and to local communities in these matters, and not continuing
:47:44. > :47:50.with their view that every school should become an Academy, whether or
:47:51. > :47:54.not it is in those interests. Akkad isolation can be a very good thing
:47:55. > :47:58.with plenty of examples where it has turned around the fortunes of a
:47:59. > :48:02.school, but forced academies nation isn't.
:48:03. > :48:08.Ministers have not been able to provide any evidence that a
:48:09. > :48:16.canonisation necessarily raises standards because it does not. Areas
:48:17. > :48:18.identified by Ofsted as having problems with low education
:48:19. > :48:26.standards include areas where most of the school have already become
:48:27. > :48:31.academies. It would be very helpful if there was a panacea like
:48:32. > :48:35.acadamisation, every organisation to overcome the problem of
:48:36. > :48:40.underperforming schools but the reality is there is not a panacea,
:48:41. > :48:45.that raising standards is a long and tough horn and ministers are looking
:48:46. > :48:49.for a short cut but the fact is that there is not one. To quote the
:48:50. > :48:54.National Association of head teachers again, targeted support is
:48:55. > :49:00.what is needed rather than forced top-down reorganisation. I thank my
:49:01. > :49:05.honourable friend for giving way. He is making a very powerful speech.
:49:06. > :49:09.Does not the history of his part of Tower Hamlets and east you show that
:49:10. > :49:14.acadamisation is not the answer but what transformed prospects in his
:49:15. > :49:19.area was the London Challenger 's schools working together to raise
:49:20. > :49:23.standards. It is about what has happened in east London where we
:49:24. > :49:26.have seen a remarkable transformation of education
:49:27. > :49:29.standards in the last 20 years and it has been because of the
:49:30. > :49:34.application consistently of the tools that he has identified,
:49:35. > :49:40.including Academy ovation in some cases, but other leaders as well. I
:49:41. > :49:44.am worried that that could be at risk and I will speak more about
:49:45. > :49:49.that in a moment. There is a cost to academies and eight, there is legal
:49:50. > :49:56.costs and other cost and we had a debate when the government policy of
:49:57. > :50:00.forced acadamisation and how much it would cost. The secretary of state
:50:01. > :50:03.did say to the education select committee that she would let the
:50:04. > :50:09.committee have the department's robust estimates of academies Asia
:50:10. > :50:13.but that information has not been provided yet and I would be grateful
:50:14. > :50:16.if the secretary of state could make sure that her department does
:50:17. > :50:22.deliver on that commitment to provide it. As the chair of the
:50:23. > :50:26.select committee has pointed out the role of the multi-Academy trust
:50:27. > :50:31.would be very important and all of this. If you look at the achievement
:50:32. > :50:36.of disadvantaged pupils some multi-Academy trusts are doing an
:50:37. > :50:41.outstanding job delivering very high standards but the majority of
:50:42. > :50:45.multi-Academy trusts are not. The trust analysis shows that the
:50:46. > :50:50.majority of multi-Academy trusts are doing less well than the average
:50:51. > :50:54.cost to the school system as a whole. They are underperforming and
:50:55. > :50:59.a big part of the reason for that is that many of them have expanded too
:51:00. > :51:03.fast and everybody in the house will recognise that it is difficult to
:51:04. > :51:06.maintain good standards if you are having to manage very rapid
:51:07. > :51:13.expansion and that problem will get a lot worse ace -- if, as appears to
:51:14. > :51:15.be the government's intention many hundreds of thousands of schools are
:51:16. > :51:24.forced into multi-Academy trusts in the next few years. It is worrying
:51:25. > :51:29.that we are starting to see some of the practices that we used to
:51:30. > :51:32.deprecate in poor local education authorities cropping up in some of
:51:33. > :51:38.the multi-Academy trusts because under the reforms of the last 20
:51:39. > :51:48.years local education authorities have been transformed. Maintained
:51:49. > :51:52.schools now enjoy a high degree of autonomy whereas academies are
:51:53. > :51:56.frequently not allowed very much autonomy at all from the
:51:57. > :52:02.multi-Academy trust. One primary headteacher said to me that he did
:52:03. > :52:07.not want to categorise specifically because a multi-Academy trust at his
:52:08. > :52:12.school would not allow the degree of autonomy for his school that his
:52:13. > :52:20.local education authority does allow. We are starting to see some
:52:21. > :52:23.bad old practices creeping into education through multi-Academy
:52:24. > :52:27.trusts and the Sutton trust is absolutely right to point out that
:52:28. > :52:33.the speed of their extension makes this problem worse. I would very
:52:34. > :52:36.much welcome the assurance that the Secretary of State gave to the
:52:37. > :52:41.education select committee that multi-Academy trusts should only be
:52:42. > :52:45.allowed to expand when they have a track record of success and
:52:46. > :52:48.improvement to their existing academies and I hope that will be
:52:49. > :52:52.reflected in the bill when it is published and I wonder whether she
:52:53. > :52:57.can tell us if that will be the case. She also recognised the
:52:58. > :53:05.importance in circumstances which we are now seeing in some instances,
:53:06. > :53:10.where a trust has demonstrably failed to deliver adequate standards
:53:11. > :53:14.and improvement in a particular Academy. She recognised the
:53:15. > :53:18.importance of parents being able to secure transfer for that Academy
:53:19. > :53:26.from its existing trust that has not succeeded to a different trust. I
:53:27. > :53:30.think, of course with appropriate standards, if that was allowed for
:53:31. > :53:35.parents it would be an important protection. She fully recognise the
:53:36. > :53:38.value of that in her evidence to the select committee and I wonder if she
:53:39. > :53:45.can tell us whether that provision will be in the bill as well.
:53:46. > :53:49.Finally, the bill will also deliver the National school funding formula
:53:50. > :54:03.that we recently debated in the house, the impact of that initiative
:54:04. > :54:06.on schools in London and I am worried that ministers seem to have
:54:07. > :54:14.given exclusive access to their deliberations about this topic to a
:54:15. > :54:20.group of largely rural authorities and my worry is that we may well end
:54:21. > :54:24.up with an unfair formula as a result and in particular there were
:54:25. > :54:30.no London authorities at all included in that group. I am
:54:31. > :54:33.particularly anxious that the high rate of people mobility in some
:54:34. > :54:40.authorities should be included in the formula. It is our pleasure to
:54:41. > :54:45.follow the honourable member who was one of the ministers that was
:54:46. > :54:49.respected by the opposition as somebody who listened I was ready to
:54:50. > :54:52.engage. I support the gracious speech about think it provides a
:54:53. > :55:00.good programme for this government to move forward and I think it is
:55:01. > :55:04.certainly that there are plenty of important and decent bills that we
:55:05. > :55:09.can support but to start on the issue of the moment, the referendum,
:55:10. > :55:13.when I was first elected I voted for a referendum on Amsterdam and I was
:55:14. > :55:16.defeated and then I voted for a referendum on Nice and I was
:55:17. > :55:20.defeated and then I voted for a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty and
:55:21. > :55:25.I was defeated and although Mr Blair and Mr Brown had committed to having
:55:26. > :55:29.a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty, but it is refreshing to find that we
:55:30. > :55:32.have a Prime Minister with the confidence to put it in his
:55:33. > :55:39.manifesto and win an election and legislate in this house and give the
:55:40. > :55:45.British people a choice. I am 59, I voted in the referendum in 1975.
:55:46. > :55:50.There are very few people in this chamber I suspect to voted in 1975
:55:51. > :55:55.and I think it right and proper that British people should consent to the
:55:56. > :56:00.arrangements for the future. I lean on the leave side but nevertheless I
:56:01. > :56:05.think it is a real shock horror politician carries out what he said
:56:06. > :56:09.moment and I think we really ought to give credit to the Prime
:56:10. > :56:14.Minister. In terms of the bills I actually do think the education bill
:56:15. > :56:20.will be a game changer, particularly because of the fair funding formula
:56:21. > :56:22.and I know members of the public are worrying about that and I pay
:56:23. > :56:25.tribute to the member for Worcester who campaigned for the government to
:56:26. > :56:28.look at this. It is not the case that we believe people in urban
:56:29. > :56:33.areas should have more money but sometimes when they have two or
:56:34. > :56:36.three or four times as much money than children in places like Dorset
:56:37. > :56:41.and Poole are really being undervalued in terms of what the
:56:42. > :56:45.nation actually thinks of them. I think we need to start to move in a
:56:46. > :56:49.new direction but be aware of the fact that clearly with all of these
:56:50. > :57:26.things there are winners and losers and it cannot be
:57:27. > :57:30.done quickly but I think the bill is a very good start. I am also very
:57:31. > :57:33.pleased with the NHS charging Bill, particular visitors to the UK, as
:57:34. > :57:35.the Secretary of State for Health is often said we have a National Health
:57:36. > :57:38.Service not an international health service and there are occasions when
:57:39. > :57:40.I wonder whether we ought to be a little bit more vociferous in
:57:41. > :57:43.pursuing people who use the service and shouldn't really be using the
:57:44. > :57:45.service. Part of the problem is the difficulties of recruiting mone y
:57:46. > :57:48.from people and the service isn't set up to do that so we need to
:57:49. > :57:51.think very carefully about how we will recode the ?500,000 a year that
:57:52. > :57:53.the bill expect from those use the service and shouldn't. We all know
:57:54. > :57:56.that people sometimes come to this resources and in these tough times
:57:57. > :57:58.it is right and proper that the British government stand up for
:57:59. > :58:00.British interests by insuring that people pay their fair share the
:58:01. > :58:03.express purpose of taking advantage of the NHS and we are short of
:58:04. > :58:05.resources and in these tough times it is right and proper that the
:58:06. > :58:08.British government stand up for British interests by insuring that
:58:09. > :58:10.people pay their fair there is a range of bills within this gracious
:58:11. > :58:13.address that will make life chances for people in the, as was mentioned
:58:14. > :58:15.yesterday in the house, I care are being given higher priority. One
:58:16. > :58:18.honourable member who was no longer a member of the house spent quite a
:58:19. > :58:20.long time campaigning about the rights of children in care and
:58:21. > :58:23.sometimes they get lost and they have life chances less than others
:58:24. > :58:25.and it is right and proper that these sometimes forgotten children
:58:26. > :58:27.are looked children in care are being given higher priority. One
:58:28. > :58:30.honourable member who was no longer a member of the house but quite a
:58:31. > :58:32.long time campaigning about the rights of children in care and
:58:33. > :58:35.sometimes they get lost and they have life chances less than others
:58:36. > :58:37.and it is right and proper that these sometimes forgotten children
:58:38. > :58:39.and given the best start in life, a better start than their
:58:40. > :58:41.circumstances might one slight word of criticism, I visited a local
:58:42. > :58:43.company called sun-seeker yachts who employ nearly 2000 people in one
:58:44. > :58:46.slight word of criticism, I visited a local company called sun-seeker
:58:47. > :58:48.yachts who employ nearly 2000 people quarter of ?1 million and they
:58:49. > :58:51.haven't seen yet how and they have 40 apprentices on and they worked
:58:52. > :58:53.out that the apprentice levy will cost them a quarter of ?1 million
:58:54. > :58:56.and they haven't seen yet how claim money against plan they havein their
:58:57. > :58:59.forward plan they have it as a dead weight loss and they are anxious for
:59:00. > :59:02.the government to explain very soon what the procedures will be and what
:59:03. > :59:04.the criteria will be so they can plan for the future. They export a
:59:05. > :59:09.large amount of their turnover and they are well regarded
:59:10. > :59:12.internationally but not -- but like many businesses they are worried
:59:13. > :59:18.that the devil in the detail has not been known and we need some more
:59:19. > :59:23.evidence on how they will be able to plan. There are a whole range of
:59:24. > :59:29.bills that I am able to support and I think the transport bill is
:59:30. > :59:35.innovative. I think that what we actually have is a very good
:59:36. > :59:40.programme for the next four years and I think we will make people's
:59:41. > :59:45.life chances substantially better and I think what David Cameron has
:59:46. > :59:49.put forward is a one nation progressive programme that I think
:59:50. > :59:52.we can all work -- rally around and it will lead to a much better
:59:53. > :59:59.citizen -- situation for our citizens and the government we can
:00:00. > :00:03.be proud of. It is always a pleasure to follow the honourable gentleman,
:00:04. > :00:08.although I really disagree with him, not only about the contents of the
:00:09. > :00:13.Queen's Speech but Europe as well. While measures to improve the
:00:14. > :00:18.national citizenship scheme and donations to charities and giving
:00:19. > :00:22.the right to broadband and protecting cultural property are
:00:23. > :00:29.welcome and laudable as a whole other measures in the Queen's Speech
:00:30. > :00:34.fail to address this huge challenges facing this country, such as
:00:35. > :00:39.problems of underfunding and marketisation, caused by the
:00:40. > :00:43.top-down restructuring of the NHS. There is nothing to deal with the
:00:44. > :00:48.chronic shortage of doctors and nurses, never mind the investment in
:00:49. > :00:52.social care that is needed to properly protect and look after
:00:53. > :00:58.older people with the dignity they desire. On education there is
:00:59. > :01:04.nothing to address the chronic teacher shortages, the shortage of
:01:05. > :01:07.school places and the need for capital investment to create the
:01:08. > :01:12.21st-century schools our constituents need, as my right
:01:13. > :01:17.honourable friend from the front bench said, this is 's speech with
:01:18. > :01:24.emptiness at its core. But some of the measures that are in the Queen's
:01:25. > :01:30.Speech are it, in fact, deeply worrying and I want to concentrate
:01:31. > :01:35.on two specific issues. First of all on the higher education Bill I have
:01:36. > :01:40.to say I am really, really disappointed by this bill. Measures
:01:41. > :01:45.and it could see fees climb even higher. Sadly young people who want
:01:46. > :01:48.to go to university -- saddling young people who want to get
:01:49. > :01:53.university with even more debt. Some students are already coming out of
:01:54. > :02:02.university with ?40,000 or ?50,000 debt, and where will it end? We
:02:03. > :02:06.support a focus on teaching equality but if this is simply a framework
:02:07. > :02:11.with parameters already set to enable the removing of the fees cap,
:02:12. > :02:19.then that is not something that I think we should support. Focus on
:02:20. > :02:25.teaching quality, yes, providing the metrics are right and providing the
:02:26. > :02:31.risks of doing so are properly managed, but why link to higher
:02:32. > :02:36.fees? I think we have to be really careful, as I said earlier, about
:02:37. > :02:45.what we are doing about the reputation of higher education so we
:02:46. > :02:51.are concerned about the deregulation of establishing universities and the
:02:52. > :02:55.lack of safeguards which could undermine the excellence of our HEA
:02:56. > :03:00.institutions. I hope the minister recognises that that is not because
:03:01. > :03:05.we are against an of higher education. I am really very much in
:03:06. > :03:09.support of an expansion in higher education and I would like to see
:03:10. > :03:12.more of our young people going to universities, but we are simply not
:03:13. > :03:18.sure that the government is going about expansion in the right way.
:03:19. > :03:26.The we are not the only ones to have concerned. Competition can
:03:27. > :03:31.undoubtably promote innovation but lowering standards to help new,
:03:32. > :03:37.inexperienced or smaller single degree providers with no interest in
:03:38. > :03:41.being research active to gain degree awarding powers and the University
:03:42. > :03:50.title is not opening up the market but lowering the bar. They emphasise
:03:51. > :03:55.the huge risk with the marketisation approach and they also point to the
:03:56. > :04:00.fact that UK universities to read globally on the basis of a national
:04:01. > :04:03.quality assurance system. High student satisfaction rates and high
:04:04. > :04:08.quality teaching and research and the assumption that institutions
:04:09. > :04:13.with UK university degree awarding powers should be allowed is
:04:14. > :04:23.potentially at variance with the government ambitions to promote the
:04:24. > :04:31.UK internationally, and they are set of concerns we would share and that
:04:32. > :04:35.universities UK also outlined, and I think we need to yearly lot more
:04:36. > :04:39.from minister when we get to the second reading of that bill about
:04:40. > :04:46.what safeguards will be in place. The Minister also said today about
:04:47. > :04:51.improving participation in our universities and increasing social
:04:52. > :04:57.mobility but again, a briefing we have had from the open University
:04:58. > :05:02.has pointed to the fact that despite the Prime Minister having a target
:05:03. > :05:06.of increasing the number of students from disadvantaged backgrounds going
:05:07. > :05:12.to university, they think they will feel on this because the number of
:05:13. > :05:16.part-time disadvantaged students entering part-time teaching is
:05:17. > :05:22.falling and not increasing and yet part-time is often the most common
:05:23. > :05:29.way for people from disadvantaged backgrounds to enter universities.
:05:30. > :05:31.They also point to the lack of clear opportunities for lifelong learning,
:05:32. > :05:35.and again that is something that I think the minister will need to
:05:36. > :05:38.address. I am astounded there is nothing in the Queen's Speech to
:05:39. > :05:45.tackle reduction in the number of part-time students or promote
:05:46. > :05:47.lifelong learning or promote upscaling or reskilling
:05:48. > :05:55.opportunities for adult learners. We know that budget has been massively
:05:56. > :05:59.cut by 335 million. We can only hope the white paper or whatever it is we
:06:00. > :06:06.are expecting addresses some of these issues. Moving on, I wanted to
:06:07. > :06:12.briefly comment on the NHS measures and we know the government is
:06:13. > :06:15.ploughing ahead with these seven-day key objectives, but I think the
:06:16. > :06:21.government is refusing to accept the reality of what is happening in NHS.
:06:22. > :06:26.Patients are waiting longer and suffering longer. Wait times and
:06:27. > :06:32.increasing and it is much harder to see a GP. Instead of measures to
:06:33. > :06:41.tackle this or to tackle the crisis in social care, we get more cuts to
:06:42. > :06:45.older people's services. We also know that the or visits to AMD
:06:46. > :06:51.basically because of a breakdown in services elsewhere and ?22 billion
:06:52. > :06:58.of efficiency savings are not going to help this. My own local authority
:06:59. > :07:04.has over the last five years had to make ?43 million of cuts to adult
:07:05. > :07:09.care and is going to make a further 25 million over the next couple of
:07:10. > :07:13.years. I really do want to hear something from the government about
:07:14. > :07:19.what they are going to do to tackle this crisis in social care, and
:07:20. > :07:23.lastly I want to see a beef word about the northern Powerhouse,
:07:24. > :07:31.because ministers and indeed some bits of the media talk about this as
:07:32. > :07:33.though it is a reality. I am an MP representing a constituency that
:07:34. > :07:40.should be benefiting from the Northern Powerhouse. I see
:07:41. > :07:45.absolutely nothing in reality and the devolution deal brings with it
:07:46. > :07:49.very little money to promote the economy and skills development in
:07:50. > :07:53.the north-east and it would be great to know what it is actually
:07:54. > :08:02.delivering as I see nothing at present. It is a pleasure to follow
:08:03. > :08:06.the honourable lady. I went into politics because I was that bored
:08:07. > :08:11.16-year-old growing up frustrated by the lack of opportunities and keen
:08:12. > :08:15.to do my bit to make it better. I had loving and supportive parents
:08:16. > :08:19.but little access to people or places and it could be said that I
:08:20. > :08:24.didn't even know what I did know at that time. I am a Conservative today
:08:25. > :08:30.because I believe it is not where you're coming from but where are
:08:31. > :08:33.going. That can only be answered by opportunities and by ensuring that
:08:34. > :08:37.every person has the chance to make themselves what they want.
:08:38. > :08:40.Conservatives believe fundamentally in people and their freedom because
:08:41. > :08:45.people are enterprising and can choose their own course but people
:08:46. > :08:52.need opportunity to be able to do so. As the Secretary of State for
:08:53. > :08:56.Work and Pensions has argued, over the past generations we have seen
:08:57. > :09:00.some untenable and dramatic changes in society. Never before has so much
:09:01. > :09:07.information been at the fingertips of so many. Never before have we
:09:08. > :09:12.seen such a decline of social deference and never before have such
:09:13. > :09:18.a leaked preserves as universities been an option but we're not living
:09:19. > :09:22.in a golden age of social mobility. Today, far too many people have
:09:23. > :09:25.their life chances determined before they have even had the opportunity
:09:26. > :09:33.to explore all that life has to offer. I am proud it is a
:09:34. > :09:39.Conservative Prime Minister, and be capable ministers here today setting
:09:40. > :09:42.out actions spanning families, early years, education, treatment and
:09:43. > :09:47.support and an end to discrimination and opportunity. We should listen it
:09:48. > :09:52.today and here the hopes and quite wishes being made by mums and dads,
:09:53. > :09:57.rich and poor, for their children every minute of every day, and we
:09:58. > :10:02.should seek to give every child the chances and the choices they need to
:10:03. > :10:05.live their lives. That is why I welcome the bills in this Queen's
:10:06. > :10:10.Speech that promote life chances through better education. Let me
:10:11. > :10:14.start with the higher education and research bill and first of all its
:10:15. > :10:22.expansion into higher education. The origin of the University in my area
:10:23. > :10:28.was in that great expansion of the 1960s and I welcome the measure
:10:29. > :10:33.today to make it easier for more universities to enter the sector and
:10:34. > :10:36.best choices for students. Higher education is one of the greatest
:10:37. > :10:40.engines for social mobility we have and we should celebrate the record
:10:41. > :10:44.application rates we are seeing among students from disadvantaged
:10:45. > :10:50.backgrounds. There's a lot more to do and in January this year, the
:10:51. > :10:53.social mobility and child poverty commission identified the life
:10:54. > :10:58.chances of a poor student growing up as some of the very worst in the
:10:59. > :11:02.country. This is something I am determined to confront as a
:11:03. > :11:04.constituency MP and that is not something to be proud of but I
:11:05. > :11:08.equally notice something the government is determined to
:11:09. > :11:15.confront. Turning on words to the transparency data we see, there is a
:11:16. > :11:19.key for doing so. If we don't have data we are perhaps the words of
:11:20. > :11:23.that commission to make progress blindly so we need evidence -based
:11:24. > :11:30.policies and the data to be able to prioritise our efforts. Timing also
:11:31. > :11:35.on words to access participation. I really welcome the broader
:11:36. > :11:39.definition that we see in this bill. From Access agreements to access and
:11:40. > :11:43.participation plans, meaning universities will be expected to
:11:44. > :11:45.welcome students from disadvantaged backgrounds and take steps to
:11:46. > :11:50.support them throughout their courses. As well as recruiting more
:11:51. > :11:54.students from disadvantaged backgrounds and if we can do all of
:11:55. > :11:57.those things we will meet the goals this government has rightly set out
:11:58. > :12:02.to get more people participating again in higher education. Let me
:12:03. > :12:08.also welcome a couple of measures from the children and social work
:12:09. > :12:12.Bill, and, in particular the men touring measure. This bill is
:12:13. > :12:16.sensible in requiring local authorities to publish a local offer
:12:17. > :12:20.setting out the support available for care leavers and ensuring they
:12:21. > :12:27.have access to pick a personal adviser to the age of 25, but I must
:12:28. > :12:30.say this has to be done well and I saw a constituency recently with the
:12:31. > :12:34.personal adviser who it appears was really able to meet his charge and
:12:35. > :12:39.quite unbelievably when he died so I was told it was usually at the side
:12:40. > :12:42.of the Lord for ten minutes. That is not what it should look like and the
:12:43. > :12:51.state ought to do better as a parent and mentor. I also welcome the
:12:52. > :12:53.measures for greater support at school and in the national Citizen
:12:54. > :13:03.service bill to promote volunteering and social action. There is more we
:13:04. > :13:07.can all do. We need to work in the way I am seeing from universities UK
:13:08. > :13:11.in the social mobility action group formed through the green paper and
:13:12. > :13:15.White Paper process behind the bill that we see here. They are rightly
:13:16. > :13:19.bringing together sectors of education and society to take a
:13:20. > :13:26.proper look at the systemic issues of peoples chances and choices. In
:13:27. > :13:30.my own constituency I am doing in response to the social mobility
:13:31. > :13:32.index of educationalists and business representatives, local
:13:33. > :13:37.authorities and the voluntary sector coming together to analyse what we
:13:38. > :13:40.can do. Much good work is going on and we want to identify the extra
:13:41. > :13:45.things we can do to make a difference. We know the factors
:13:46. > :13:51.involved are complex and deep rooted and we only stand to solve them by
:13:52. > :13:55.working together. Let me turn finally to the education for all
:13:56. > :14:00.Bill and bill we see the lesson of being willing to look at what works.
:14:01. > :14:02.I support the government was Mike education reforms because the
:14:03. > :14:06.reality is that skills in my constituency do need to improve if
:14:07. > :14:10.children are to get the best start in life. The there's no room for
:14:11. > :14:17.complacency when you see the index already referred to. If it has some
:14:18. > :14:22.of the poorest life chances in England, then the years spent in
:14:23. > :14:26.school are absolutely crucial. There is some improvement to be seen in
:14:27. > :14:31.the performance of schools in Norwich and Norfolk but we must not
:14:32. > :14:34.rest. I believe the academy structure can help in its
:14:35. > :14:39.improvement and they want to see the government focusing on building
:14:40. > :14:44.capacity in good trusts and leaders and recruiting and developing those
:14:45. > :14:49.teachers. I do also want to see local leaders in schools continue to
:14:50. > :14:53.use pupil premium money in the most imaginative and ambitious ways to
:14:54. > :14:57.help the poor students break out and there is much good work to be seen
:14:58. > :15:02.in the Southern trust toolkits to be able to do this. Finally, I welcome
:15:03. > :15:09.the promise to make school funding failure. Schools with the same
:15:10. > :15:14.pupils should get the same funding and that brings me back to my same
:15:15. > :15:16.starting point. Wherever you come from, whatever background, you
:15:17. > :15:22.should expect the same opportunities. Norwich children
:15:23. > :15:27.should have the same chances and choices as children from Newcastle,
:15:28. > :15:32.the new Forest Nottingham. As I said, this is what brought me into
:15:33. > :15:36.politics and what inspired many of us into Parliament. It should spot
:15:37. > :15:40.is on today afresh to make sure the chance of a decent life is
:15:41. > :15:45.universal, available in all communities and parts of the
:15:46. > :15:51.country, in every household, regardless of your background, and
:15:52. > :15:57.especially for the poorest. I always think of the Queen's Speech, the
:15:58. > :16:01.first one you and I went to, because it was the last time I spent any
:16:02. > :16:06.real time with my good friend Roman cookery most people will agree is a
:16:07. > :16:11.fine parliamentarian and you wonder what he would make the shambles in
:16:12. > :16:16.government today, why you have the former DWP secretary describing the
:16:17. > :16:19.Business Secretary is disappointing. His own Prime Minister disingenuous
:16:20. > :16:26.and his own Chancellor as nothing short of a liar, calling him
:16:27. > :16:30.Pinocchio. On the other side you have former DWP secretary and Mayor
:16:31. > :16:35.of London, former Defence Secretary, all saying, look out, the Turks are
:16:36. > :16:40.coming. Ten years ago they were seeing you we want you in Europe! It
:16:41. > :16:43.is against this backdrop that this most wasteful use of parliamentary
:16:44. > :16:50.time in history went ahead last week. What we're used to in this
:16:51. > :16:56.house, contempt from the leader of this country towards this house.
:16:57. > :17:00.Worse, contempt for our Queen, bringing a woman along here in her
:17:01. > :17:06.record-breaking 90s the year to deliver this piece of rubbish. Even
:17:07. > :17:13.worse than that, the contented sure the people who don't just send us
:17:14. > :17:21.here. It is that I want to reflect on in one particular area, someone
:17:22. > :17:25.from my part of the world, the ludicrous programme of English
:17:26. > :17:31.devolution. A farce, a joke and sadly deadly serious. This party,
:17:32. > :17:37.the Labour Party, is and always has been the party of devolution. In
:17:38. > :17:42.Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, London. All given real powers and
:17:43. > :17:49.real democracy all given accountability and crucially all
:17:50. > :17:52.with genuine engagement in democratic decision-making for the
:17:53. > :17:57.people affected. What have we got no? Devolution drawn up on the back
:17:58. > :18:02.of a cigarette packet and decisions taken behind closed doors by
:18:03. > :18:03.Treasury officials, local government senior officers and leaders of
:18:04. > :18:15.councils. Imposition of elected mayors without
:18:16. > :18:18.asking people if they want them. Ignoring the voices of those who
:18:19. > :18:43.have already rejected mayors in their own towns and cities.
:18:44. > :18:52.Austerity goes on and on. Agreeing a funding stream there is no basis in
:18:53. > :18:57.fairness or transparency. Cajoling locally elected representatives into
:18:58. > :19:05.agreeing poor deals as the only game in town. You take this already get
:19:06. > :19:10.nothing. Coming altogether under the crass PR title of the Northern
:19:11. > :19:14.Powerhouse, the Midlands engine, and God knows what else. The people of
:19:15. > :19:18.England deserve better than this. More and more people are recognising
:19:19. > :19:23.this, as more and more politicians of all colours. Indeed I have sat in
:19:24. > :19:28.amazement in the last few weeks and heard people who I object with on
:19:29. > :19:32.almost every issue and I have seen how very concerned in that part of
:19:33. > :19:35.the world, in East Anglia and the south-west in the West Midlands
:19:36. > :19:42.about the way this is going through the house. People are asking why is
:19:43. > :19:46.this happening this way? Why must we in the north-east be told we can't
:19:47. > :19:50.have this without ever people in Cornwall can have an authority
:19:51. > :19:54.without air. Why can't we have a proper consultation and a referendum
:19:55. > :19:58.that has happened everywhere else across the United Kingdom, quite
:19:59. > :20:04.rightly. Why do we not have a fair funding system? I would give you an
:20:05. > :20:09.example of that in my part of the world. Tees Valley, which is the
:20:10. > :20:14.south of the north-east, has agreed to proceed, which is their right,
:20:15. > :20:17.with a mayoral combined authority. The north-eastern part of the
:20:18. > :20:24.north-east has not as yet fully done the same. One of the sticking point
:20:25. > :20:29.is resources. We are asking in our part of the world why is it that the
:20:30. > :20:35.Tees Valley, which is an area much smaller than I was geographically,
:20:36. > :20:40.and with a population of about a quarter of hours, actually getting
:20:41. > :20:43.?15 million a year dedicated to their so-called powerhouse while we
:20:44. > :20:49.in the northern part are only getting ?30 million? It might just
:20:50. > :20:56.be coincidence that the Tees Valley is one of the homes of the Northern
:20:57. > :20:59.house -- Northern Powerhouse minister. Surely this can't have
:21:00. > :21:03.anything to do with this decision. That would almost be as absurd as
:21:04. > :21:07.suggesting that the greater Manchester area has anything to do
:21:08. > :21:12.with the fact that the Chancellor of the Exchequer lives on the fridges
:21:13. > :21:18.of the greater Manchester area. Surely even Pinocchio won't disagree
:21:19. > :21:22.with that. I am grateful to my honourable friend for giving way but
:21:23. > :21:25.I would like to make it clear that we do deserve the ?15 million and we
:21:26. > :21:30.will spend it vary widely -- wisely but we are deeply opposed to the
:21:31. > :21:34.imposition of an elected mayor. Can I say clearly to my honourable
:21:35. > :21:37.friend that I have no doubt that the people of Tees Valley deserve that
:21:38. > :21:41.and a lot more, given what they have gone through in the last 30 years,
:21:42. > :21:45.where they have been through deindustrialisation in the 1980s and
:21:46. > :21:50.they have taken a hit lately and they have faced issues that mean
:21:51. > :21:57.this is eager for the people of the Tees Valley and I am in no way
:21:58. > :22:03.begrudging that. How can it be fair that a population of four times the
:22:04. > :22:07.size does not get four times the money. I am a clear fan of
:22:08. > :22:11.devolution and I believe that we in the north-east do know what is
:22:12. > :22:14.better for us rather than the old it only ends and I do believe that we
:22:15. > :22:20.can and should be allowed the freedom to decide on what is best
:22:21. > :22:25.for our part of the world, but to do that we need sufficient resources to
:22:26. > :22:31.match responsibilities given to us. We need the to meet the needs we
:22:32. > :22:36.have. We need structures that are transparent and accountable and they
:22:37. > :22:40.should be negotiated by the people who have vested interests, the
:22:41. > :22:42.leader of the Council are decent and honourable people but they shouldn't
:22:43. > :22:46.be the ones sitting around the table saying this is what we want and we
:22:47. > :22:54.will agree without the course to the people in their local areas.
:22:55. > :22:59.Gateshead the council in the consultation have a list of 200
:23:00. > :23:02.people in 30 people replied. A poll in the north-east happened a couple
:23:03. > :23:06.of weeks ago and out of a population of 2 million people 511 people
:23:07. > :23:10.replied and the majority of them said they didn't really know enough
:23:11. > :23:15.about what was going on to make a value choice. What on earth is that
:23:16. > :23:18.showing but the way that this government is pushing through this
:23:19. > :23:24.programme has nothing to do with real transparency and real
:23:25. > :23:28.democracy? We need genuine in from the people and commitment. Without
:23:29. > :23:32.this this this is going nowhere. We need a range of powers to recognise
:23:33. > :23:38.the differences in the needs of people, for example in rural
:23:39. > :23:41.Northumberland and Durham and Tyneside people are different and
:23:42. > :23:45.they will have different demands. None of these have been fully
:23:46. > :23:49.addressed to our satisfaction and, common law might I suggest, as I
:23:50. > :23:54.said earlier, to people in other parts of England, including those in
:23:55. > :23:58.a number of places who have already signed up to these dodgy deals. I
:23:59. > :24:03.want to be very clear specifically on my borough of Gateshead who have
:24:04. > :24:07.refused to sign up to a deal that other people in the world have
:24:08. > :24:12.agreed to. We are walking away from this. We want this to work and we
:24:13. > :24:16.wanted to work properly and there is nothing in this Queen 's speech that
:24:17. > :24:26.makes me believe anything do with what we have been landed with. It is
:24:27. > :24:28.our pleasure to follow the honourable member for belated but I
:24:29. > :24:33.can't agree with his every statement. I would like to focus
:24:34. > :24:36.briefly on the welcome emphasis on research and innovation in the
:24:37. > :24:39.gracious speech. Properly drawn the higher education and research bill
:24:40. > :24:43.and the Digital economy Bill in the education for all built and the
:24:44. > :24:47.modern transport Bill should work together to upgrade the foundations
:24:48. > :24:50.of our knowledge economy, unlocking a UK robotics revolution in boosting
:24:51. > :24:53.our space sector and playing the infrastructure for our data hungry
:24:54. > :24:58.economy and crucially underpinning all of this with a pipeline of
:24:59. > :25:03.course stem cells and R investment. I am sure the chamber
:25:04. > :25:06.will be devastated to hear that I can't go into detail on all of these
:25:07. > :25:09.bills but overjoyed to hear that the science and Tech committee will
:25:10. > :25:13.shortly be publishing its report into space and satellites including
:25:14. > :25:36.its conclusions other space port and we have begun our enquiry
:25:37. > :25:40.into AI and robotics which is looking at driverless cars and we
:25:41. > :25:42.will ensure we report on time to ensure the progress of the modern
:25:43. > :25:45.transport Bill. Whether we are talking about AI and robotics or the
:25:46. > :25:47.space sector or our digital economy the scarlet thread that runs through
:25:48. > :25:50.our evidence that we are receiving is we have a stem skills crisis in
:25:51. > :25:53.the UK, especially core skills you need to be addressing this as a
:25:54. > :25:55.matter of urgency so while I welcome the investment that will flow from
:25:56. > :25:57.the Digital economy Bill I urge the government to reduce their long
:25:58. > :26:00.overdue digital strategy and make sure it takes into account the
:26:01. > :26:03.findings of the report and makes the scale of the skills challenge that
:26:04. > :26:05.we are facing. When it comes to the HD Bill I know that Minister is
:26:06. > :26:08.aware that the science and Tech committee have been taking a keen
:26:09. > :26:11.interest and I am glad to see that a number of concerns that have been
:26:12. > :26:17.raised by the community have been taken on board already and I am glad
:26:18. > :26:21.in particular to hear that the Taff timetable has been amended and the
:26:22. > :26:25.technical paper has been published alongside it although, as we have
:26:26. > :26:29.heard, there will be a rigorous debate about not just that timetable
:26:30. > :26:33.but also the quality and metrics measured which will be appropriate
:26:34. > :26:38.to make sure they deliver what they intend to. I also welcome the
:26:39. > :26:41.restating of the holding principle and the government intention to
:26:42. > :26:47.enshrine the dual support system into law by bringing all funding
:26:48. > :26:51.into UK are I will require separation in practice as well as
:26:52. > :26:54.principle if we are to preserve the allocation on which our world
:26:55. > :27:01.leading system is founded. The quality of leadership will play a
:27:02. > :27:06.key role in delivering this but we can't leave the health of our
:27:07. > :27:09.science and immigration system to the whim of personality. We have to
:27:10. > :27:14.make sure the structures we have set in place safeguard the autonomy and
:27:15. > :27:17.the strong voices of existing research councils while achieving
:27:18. > :27:21.the stated goal of better interdisciplinary working. With a
:27:22. > :27:25.single accounting office I feel this will be challenging. There has also
:27:26. > :27:28.been concern about in the rate UK being merged into this. That is
:27:29. > :27:32.because the Budget are not ring fenced and there is fear of
:27:33. > :27:36.annexation. Many have welcomed the fact that research UK has been
:27:37. > :27:50.renamed and it puts innovation funding has been
:27:51. > :27:52.hypothecated but in practice the questions remain. How will innovate
:27:53. > :27:54.UK retain a clear and separate business facing focus, and not
:27:55. > :27:58.become research facing? How in this new structure will we stimulate our
:27:59. > :28:02.innovation structure so that it comes to match our research sector
:28:03. > :28:06.for excellence and efficiency? To achieve that we need to know where
:28:07. > :28:10.we are going and what the visionaries. Not just of the H E
:28:11. > :28:14.Bill but of this clutch of innovation driven bills. How will we
:28:15. > :28:18.make sure that we join them up seamlessly against all of the
:28:19. > :28:23.natural impetus of the Whitehall machine? On H E the government has
:28:24. > :28:27.been clear of their intent on competitiveness and raising teaching
:28:28. > :28:31.standards and transparency in driving improvements in diversity
:28:32. > :28:36.and few would argue with those aims. On research and innovation I think
:28:37. > :28:39.the scale of the not matched by the ambition and merging all councils to
:28:40. > :28:44.improve into patisserie at working, I think we can do better than that.
:28:45. > :28:47.Reform on this scale is disruptive and it requires buying and I think
:28:48. > :28:50.the government needs to clearly articulate its vision for the future
:28:51. > :28:53.of research and research and innovation and explain not just why
:28:54. > :28:59.these disruptive changes will be worth it in the end but how we will
:29:00. > :29:06.safeguard our science and innovation ecosystem, a national treasure, from
:29:07. > :29:09.unintended harm. I welcome the oversight over the sustainability of
:29:10. > :29:14.a cheaper given the removal of the structural link between teaching and
:29:15. > :29:18.research, one of the key strengths of our system in this process, I
:29:19. > :29:22.would like to know who has responsibility for monitoring the
:29:23. > :29:25.health of our whole system as we progress through these reforms. It
:29:26. > :29:31.is possibly a job envisaged for the Council for science and technology
:29:32. > :29:35.in lieu of the ministerial committee but I doubt their capacity to
:29:36. > :29:38.deliver that. There should be closer links with the government through a
:29:39. > :29:41.ministerial committee and a government white perspective on
:29:42. > :29:44.research priorities but this committee was supposed to be not
:29:45. > :29:48.just about scanning and health checking but also to deliver
:29:49. > :29:51.high-level leadership and accountability for science and
:29:52. > :29:55.innovation across government and it is not clear to me how they will be
:29:56. > :30:00.able to deliver on that function. We have long had a Chancellor who
:30:01. > :30:02.prioritised science and innovation fund even in times of austerity
:30:03. > :30:27.because he recognises that science and innovation is a
:30:28. > :30:29.strategic national investment, not subsidy. We have a major programme
:30:30. > :30:32.of cross government form to match that ambition and I congratulate the
:30:33. > :30:34.government for recognising we have no time to lose in backing science
:30:35. > :30:37.and innovation is a key strategic asset and a driver of our national
:30:38. > :30:39.knowledge economy but we should be under no illusions. The higher
:30:40. > :30:42.education and research bill alone is far reaching and it should not be
:30:43. > :30:44.taken lightly. We speak often that we punch way above our weight in
:30:45. > :30:47.science and innovation and we have the worlds top six universities and
:30:48. > :30:49.we should proud of our research base but we should never forget the
:30:50. > :30:51.research this takes. As we contemplate structures and
:30:52. > :30:55.regulations it is our responsibility in this table -- chamber to
:30:56. > :30:58.jealously guard their health and vibrancy of our science and
:30:59. > :31:01.technology base as a strategic national asset and go further and
:31:02. > :31:06.ensure the decisions that we make to more than maintain the status quo
:31:07. > :31:09.and the decisions we make with these innovative and forward thinking
:31:10. > :31:13.bills should make sure that we take this extraordinary jewel in our
:31:14. > :31:16.crown and supercharger, matching infrastructure with skills and
:31:17. > :31:21.excellence with efficiency and delivering in the process a science
:31:22. > :31:25.and innovation ecosystem that drives not just our economy as more
:31:26. > :31:28.productively and creatively but also fuels the very discoveries that will
:31:29. > :31:38.unlock the great global challenges of our age. Thank you for allowing
:31:39. > :31:42.me to speak on the Queen's Speech debate. The thing make was a one
:31:43. > :31:47.nation speech and I will be speaking mainly about my nation, -- their
:31:48. > :31:52.Queen's Speech was a one nation speech and I will be speaking mainly
:31:53. > :31:55.about my nation, Scotland. It is a UK Parliament that I am elected as a
:31:56. > :31:59.member of the UK Parliament had come from Scotland for the Met of the
:32:00. > :32:05.members opposite. Are many things to welcome in this speech but many more
:32:06. > :32:11.things that can be improved on, given the experiences we have in
:32:12. > :32:18.Scotland. It would appear that the Cabinet Secretary has been complete
:32:19. > :32:21.and there should be no forced academic I -- acadamisation of
:32:22. > :32:28.schools in England and that is good but I have heard it rumoured that
:32:29. > :32:31.happens to education resource funding to local authorities might
:32:32. > :32:36.mean that they may not have the cash that helped them improve services to
:32:37. > :32:41.schools in their areas and that then that would lead them to become
:32:42. > :32:47.academies in any case. This kind of acadamisation has no proof, there
:32:48. > :32:53.has been no proof given that it improves educational attainment. I
:32:54. > :32:59.didn't say that, Michael Wilshaw said that. Free schools as well came
:33:00. > :33:04.from Sweden, and it would appear that in Sweden they have decided
:33:05. > :33:08.that it is now a political failure. I am very glad that we have neither
:33:09. > :33:15.at academies nor free schools in Scotland.
:33:16. > :33:26.Could I also moved the higher education and research bill for
:33:27. > :33:32.England, I beg your pardon, because that has at least the laudable aim
:33:33. > :33:38.of improving access to higher education and that has to be
:33:39. > :33:41.welcomed across the United Kingdom. However, I find it difficult to
:33:42. > :33:49.believe that widening access can actually happen with a government
:33:50. > :33:56.that has systematically cut funding to poorer students since 2015 and
:33:57. > :34:02.before. Maintenance grants being abolished, disabled students'
:34:03. > :34:04.allowances cut, the abolition of the national scholarship programme. The
:34:05. > :34:11.abolition of the educational maintenance allowance, which helps
:34:12. > :34:18.poorer students in schools and further education. How can they
:34:19. > :34:23.possibly move on to access higher education if they are crippled by
:34:24. > :34:28.debt. In England as well, the number of part-time students has been
:34:29. > :34:36.reduced by 38%, and there are now 180,000 fewer mature students in
:34:37. > :34:43.higher education since 2010. As a former further education lecturer, I
:34:44. > :34:48.find that really unconscionable. Mature students bring so much to
:34:49. > :34:57.higher and further education that to actually cut their chances is
:34:58. > :35:05.absolutely impossible to understand, why any government would do that. In
:35:06. > :35:11.Scotland, we don't charge fees, and we still pay educational maintenance
:35:12. > :35:16.allowance and we actively encourage students to move forward in higher
:35:17. > :35:22.education. We actually also really try hard to encourage them. We don't
:35:23. > :35:27.ask universities just to publish information on the types of students
:35:28. > :35:36.from deprived backgrounds who assess their services. We actually have
:35:37. > :35:39.legislated so that universities must show that they are actually
:35:40. > :35:45.improving access for our most disadvantaged students. I would
:35:46. > :35:53.actually encourage this government to look at what Scotland has done in
:35:54. > :35:59.this regard. It is really important that you not only ask but tell
:36:00. > :36:03.universities that they must encourage people from BME
:36:04. > :36:09.backgrounds, disabled students and from the most disadvantaged
:36:10. > :36:16.backgrounds. One of the these and many disadvantaged students don't go
:36:17. > :36:20.to university is the cost. -- one of the reasons. In Scotland we believe
:36:21. > :36:26.students should access university based on ability, not the ability to
:36:27. > :36:33.pay. The Right Honourable member for Gordon has that in a rock at
:36:34. > :36:36.Edinburgh at Herriot Watt University, and it is a subject that
:36:37. > :36:43.the majority of people in Scotland is totally agree with. I am grateful
:36:44. > :36:49.to her forgiving way and I am listening carefully what she says,
:36:50. > :36:52.but can she promised to go away and read a report from the social
:36:53. > :36:58.mobility and child poverty commission entitled elitism in
:36:59. > :37:02.Scotland? I certainly well, but can I also remind the Honourable lady
:37:03. > :37:06.that the First Minister has been re-elected on a huge mandate to put
:37:07. > :37:12.education at the heart of her government and has asked to be
:37:13. > :37:17.judged on her progress in it. I believe and I think there are many
:37:18. > :37:20.people in England and Wales and Northern Ireland to agree that
:37:21. > :37:26.university fees are huge barrier to higher and further education. I have
:37:27. > :37:31.a great respect for you if you have taught within this system but that
:37:32. > :37:35.doesn't seem like a very good one nation system if for example my son
:37:36. > :37:41.came to university in Scotland, he has two not only do a four-year
:37:42. > :37:48.system but he has to pay whereas his colleagues all over free. Can I say,
:37:49. > :37:52.that if Scotland was independent that wouldn't happen because we
:37:53. > :37:55.would be members of the European Union and that wouldn't happen, so
:37:56. > :38:03.the answer is to give us our independence. Can I just also say
:38:04. > :38:07.that while I welcome a lot of what is in this report, it really is
:38:08. > :38:12.important and I think everyone across the chamber should agree,
:38:13. > :38:18.that encouraging that you are disadvantaged people to university
:38:19. > :38:25.only increases the standing of any country within the UK. Can I just
:38:26. > :38:31.make a little progress? Education doesn't just benefit the person who
:38:32. > :38:37.gets it. I stand here as someone who went to university in 1967 in a time
:38:38. > :38:42.when women didn't go to university, woman of my background didn't get a
:38:43. > :38:47.chance, and I had very farseeing parents who actively encouraged me
:38:48. > :38:52.to make the best of what I could. As a result of that, I have been able
:38:53. > :38:55.to contribute back to Scotland greatly, and as I have already said
:38:56. > :39:00.I ended up working in further education and for someone in this
:39:01. > :39:04.chamber, and I don't want to name names, to say that educational and
:39:05. > :39:13.benefits those who get it, is a total piece of nonsense. I totally
:39:14. > :39:17.agree with that having more and more of our fellow citizens in higher
:39:18. > :39:23.education is good for the whole nation and this is why we are here
:39:24. > :39:25.to promote that, which she therefore welcome that the proportion of young
:39:26. > :39:37.people from disadvantaged backgrounds in higher education is
:39:38. > :39:42.actually up? I do welcome any increase in access for people from
:39:43. > :39:46.poorer backgrounds but I don't think accessing education should be at the
:39:47. > :39:52.risk of being in debt for the remainder of quite a long part of
:39:53. > :40:00.your adult life. I will give way later. I would like to make
:40:01. > :40:11.progress. The National Union of Students in Scotland has said, and
:40:12. > :40:16.here in England, has said that it is really likely that higher education
:40:17. > :40:26.fees will rise yet again and that just underlines the point that I
:40:27. > :40:29.would make. I will give way. I listened with great interest and it
:40:30. > :40:33.is all very well and good in the points being made but I would like
:40:34. > :40:42.to ask one simple question. We had the money come from from taking away
:40:43. > :40:46.the fees? Government is about choices. Could I suggest that you
:40:47. > :40:51.get rid of Trident and plug the money into education? That is a
:40:52. > :40:57.simple choice. That is the obvious choice for me and it may not be for
:40:58. > :41:02.you, but there are other things that you can do. Being in government
:41:03. > :41:08.especially is about choices. That is what this government needs to look
:41:09. > :41:14.at, the choices it is making by increasing the likelihood of higher
:41:15. > :41:18.fees for university students. Could I move onto another bill that is
:41:19. > :41:25.part of the Queen's Speech. That is the children in social work Bill. As
:41:26. > :41:30.the chair of the education select committee has already alluded to, we
:41:31. > :41:37.have the port and the commission not ready to be published so I have to
:41:38. > :41:41.be very careful as to what I say, but some part of a former report
:41:42. > :41:46.looked at looked after children and their mental health needs, and that
:41:47. > :41:49.was quite an eye-opener for me. Everything I do in the education
:41:50. > :41:53.select committee tends to be an eye-opener because a lot of what I
:41:54. > :41:59.do I don't understand until I have gone through writing a report. It is
:42:00. > :42:06.a totally different situation. In Scotland, we have a system for
:42:07. > :42:12.looked after children and all children, getting it right for every
:42:13. > :42:26.child, which is very child focused and based on an understanding of
:42:27. > :42:30.tackling equality. Thank you. A great pleasure to follow the member
:42:31. > :42:37.for Motherwell but also to see you in the chair but I have to say prior
:42:38. > :42:42.to your arrival you missed a parade of relatively churlish speeches from
:42:43. > :42:46.the opposition, which I find quite surprising, because to me the
:42:47. > :42:51.Queen's Speech appears to be a smorgasbord of legislative delights,
:42:52. > :42:56.a legislative milk Tray filled with hard and soft centres from which you
:42:57. > :43:02.can take your pet. Perhaps he was worried he would get the coffee
:43:03. > :43:14.cream. In the speech which he described as rubbish, I found a huge
:43:15. > :43:17.amount of value first, as the lady for Motherwell referred to the
:43:18. > :43:23.children in social work Bill as possibly the most important bill in
:43:24. > :43:29.this session. It was in his conference speech in October the
:43:30. > :43:33.year before last that the Prime Minister electrified the room by
:43:34. > :43:40.painting a fairly bleak picture of the lives of children in care, four
:43:41. > :43:44.times more likely to commit suicide than the fact 70% more prostitutes
:43:45. > :43:49.in the UK have been through the care assistant, and he told us on then
:43:50. > :43:54.that the care system shamed us all as a nation and he was quite right.
:43:55. > :43:58.It is a tribute to him and to the member for Crewe and Nantwich, the
:43:59. > :44:03.Minister for children, that this bill has appeared. That minister
:44:04. > :44:08.said at the outset that his mission was to put children in care front
:44:09. > :44:12.and centre of the political debate, and he appears to have achieved
:44:13. > :44:16.that. There were many measures in the bill which would be absolutely
:44:17. > :44:22.vital to those children's lives in the future. Two in particular, first
:44:23. > :44:25.the focus on getting local authorities to recognise their
:44:26. > :44:27.corporate parents and these children are their charges and should not
:44:28. > :44:32.necessarily be competing for attention and resources with other
:44:33. > :44:38.issues, potholes and nephews and whatever it might be. You should not
:44:39. > :44:42.put your own children second to other requirements in your house.
:44:43. > :44:47.Why would you put children in care are second or third or last in the
:44:48. > :44:50.list in the priorities for local authorities and defining more
:44:51. > :44:55.clearly for local authorities what their responsibilities are for their
:44:56. > :44:58.children and what the obligations are, and they hacked they have to
:44:59. > :45:03.publish and consult on those locally with people will be vital and
:45:04. > :45:06.creating transparency around how these children live in all our
:45:07. > :45:12.communities. Secondly, the concentration on leaving care. It
:45:13. > :45:18.may well be that looking after these children not terribly well, but when
:45:19. > :45:25.they leave care our obligation does not cease. And so providing each of
:45:26. > :45:29.them with an adviser to the age of 25, improving leaving care services
:45:30. > :45:33.and in particular again getting local authorities to publish their
:45:34. > :45:37.plans for the link year, to consult on them, allowing local people to
:45:38. > :45:41.see what is being done in their name to all of our collective children. I
:45:42. > :45:46.think that'll be absolutely vital for driving standards up. There are
:45:47. > :45:53.two areas I would like to see added to the bill and I put the Minister
:45:54. > :45:58.on notice. If it is right that children leaving care should have an
:45:59. > :46:02.adviser up to 25, surely it is also right that we look back earlier than
:46:03. > :46:09.their lives to see if we might be able to influence their outcomes. In
:46:10. > :46:12.particular, the educational attainment is extremely low. It
:46:13. > :46:16.strikes me it would be a sensible thing for us to do for those
:46:17. > :46:21.children underachieving, what any parent would do, which is try and
:46:22. > :46:26.look elsewhere outside of school for assistance. In London, I have to
:46:27. > :46:30.know there's a strange phenomenon of parents whose children are entitled
:46:31. > :46:36.free school meals still managing to scrape together the money to get
:46:37. > :46:41.them a tutor. I do not understand why local authorities do not look at
:46:42. > :46:44.children in care, and see if they are underachieving we should be
:46:45. > :46:48.providing them with tutors. The government has done lots and
:46:49. > :46:52.designated teachers and the resorts around virtual headteachers but
:46:53. > :46:54.there is no substitute to one-to-one assistance to children in care as
:46:55. > :47:02.they go through particularly the early years of education. 4-7 are
:47:03. > :47:07.critical to setting the standard for future life and death they were to
:47:08. > :47:12.get one-to-one tuition as often the most privileged kids do then I think
:47:13. > :47:15.it would make a big difference. My honourable friend is making a
:47:16. > :47:20.powerful point and I wondered if you might comment on does he think the
:47:21. > :47:27.suggestions you are making would link well into our prisons reform?
:47:28. > :47:31.Author, and I am sorry to interrupt, but now we're in the second session
:47:32. > :47:38.of this Parliament, I cannot allow members to use the word you when
:47:39. > :47:47.they mean the honourable gentleman. If one says you it means the chair,
:47:48. > :47:51.and we have been quite easy in the first part, but from now on we have
:47:52. > :47:54.to observe those niceties correctly, but sorry to connect the honourable
:47:55. > :48:03.lady and she me finish an intervention.
:48:04. > :48:10.Thank you, I am suitably reprimanded. These suggestions in
:48:11. > :48:14.the care system to me seem to link very well with our reforms of the
:48:15. > :48:17.prison system as well where too often those people in prison have
:48:18. > :48:24.gone through so many care systems themselves. Absolutely right. I am
:48:25. > :48:29.going to come onto some of those points a little later. Incidentally,
:48:30. > :48:35.Madam Deputy chair, use is a term of abuse in Liverpool so you absolutely
:48:36. > :48:41.shouldn't allow that in the chamber. Secondly, private schools which have
:48:42. > :48:44.charitable stations. I wonder if we can encourage private schools to
:48:45. > :48:49.take on children in care. By my maths if each private school where
:48:50. > :48:54.to take about 20 children, which is not a huge amount in 400 or 600 in
:48:55. > :48:59.the school, it would mean that every child in care can go to a private
:49:00. > :49:02.school. Given that they benefit from charitable status I think maybe they
:49:03. > :49:09.should look a little further than the community and let our
:49:10. > :49:11.disadvantaged children take advantage of the Philistines they
:49:12. > :49:17.provide. Just rattle through some issues. The initiatives that are
:49:18. > :49:21.proposed on prisons and courts reform, policing and crime and
:49:22. > :49:25.allowing greater innovation will be absolutely vital. I burned the scars
:49:26. > :49:29.on my back, as famous Labour politician once said, from trying to
:49:30. > :49:34.do a moderate amount of innovation in the criminal justice system at
:49:35. > :49:38.Feltham. We attempted to look at youth offending from the different
:49:39. > :49:41.point of view. It was an incredibly difficult process and incredibly
:49:42. > :49:45.bureaucratic and in the end it foundered in a morass of about 19
:49:46. > :49:52.organisations that were required to agree and a Ministry of Justice was
:49:53. > :49:55.broadly reluctant. Getting innovation into the criminal justice
:49:56. > :49:57.system and the ability of people on the ground to create and design
:49:58. > :50:01.their own solutions to the problems we face such as education in prisons
:50:02. > :50:08.will be absolutely key. The Digital economy Bill is incredibly exciting.
:50:09. > :50:12.For those of us who have rural constituencies recognising that 25%
:50:13. > :50:17.of all small businesses are registered in rural areas, that is
:50:18. > :50:21.no .5 million small businesses, allowing people to the right to
:50:22. > :50:28.demand service obligation of ten miles an hour for the Internet
:50:29. > :50:33.absolutely critical. 12% of GDP now comes through the Internet in the UK
:50:34. > :50:41.and so it is vital, if we are to grow as an economy, that we connect
:50:42. > :50:44.all of those people up. The neighbourhood planning Bill. Many of
:50:45. > :50:49.us have neighbourhood plans going through in our constituencies and it
:50:50. > :50:53.is completely vital if the government is to get people to take
:50:54. > :50:59.up its planning policy and take up neighbourhood plans, that they are
:51:00. > :51:03.strengthened and protected and I understand the bill is designed to
:51:04. > :51:05.do that and to particularly allow local authorities greater scope to
:51:06. > :51:11.protect their five-year housing supply figures so that developers
:51:12. > :51:16.cannot constantly challenged and wear them down by a war of attrition
:51:17. > :51:19.to get their way on speculative developments. There will be many
:51:20. > :51:25.rural members watching that bill with care and of course elsewhere.
:51:26. > :51:29.The modern transport Bill, again very exciting and if we are to be at
:51:30. > :51:33.the forefront of these developments and grabbed the technology for
:51:34. > :51:36.ourselves, rather than as the British normally do, let the
:51:37. > :51:40.Japanese miniaturising time the Americans consume arise it, we
:51:41. > :51:43.should take some of the things we have invented and exploit them,
:51:44. > :51:47.particularly as modern transport is focused around autonomous cars, I
:51:48. > :51:52.would urge ministers to look at the hydrogen economy. There is no doubt
:51:53. > :51:56.that the fuel cell is coming. Toyota have already launched the next
:51:57. > :52:01.generation previous in California. It is a hydrogen fuel cell car and
:52:02. > :52:05.powered by hydrogen with all it omits is water with hydrogen being
:52:06. > :52:11.the most abundant chemical in the universe it holds out the option of,
:52:12. > :52:16.-- extremely cheap power for all of us and using this bill to accelerate
:52:17. > :52:19.our adoption of that technology will be key. Finally the better markets
:52:20. > :52:27.Bill holds out enormous promise for consumers. I have one plea, please
:52:28. > :52:30.can we use the consumer to get rid of the requirement to produce
:52:31. > :52:34.utility bills wherever we go. For those of us who are paperless these
:52:35. > :52:37.things are anachronistic and the Foresters of Britain will rejoice at
:52:38. > :52:47.the trees that will not require to be felt as a result. It is a
:52:48. > :52:51.pleasure to follow the honourable gentleman from North West Hampshire.
:52:52. > :52:55.I did actually agree with much of what he said. It was also good to
:52:56. > :52:59.follow my honourable friend, the member for Blaydon, who made a
:53:00. > :53:03.powerful speech about the current devolution offer from the
:53:04. > :53:08.government. He is right to raise concerns but the deal that has been
:53:09. > :53:12.presented must be a stepping stone for the real devolution that the
:53:13. > :53:16.north-east deserves and I hope that Gateshead can find their way back
:53:17. > :53:22.into rejoining the process as clearly as a whole we are much
:53:23. > :53:26.stronger together as a region. Madam Deputy Speaker, I, along with many
:53:27. > :53:32.members on both sides of this house, cautiously welcomed the climb-down
:53:33. > :53:37.that appeared to have taken place to the nonsensical idea of forcing all
:53:38. > :53:41.schools down the path of academy ovation by Twenty20 and it is true
:53:42. > :53:45.that in the education for all Bill announced during the Queen 's speech
:53:46. > :53:50.last week it did not include the wholesale for standardisation of our
:53:51. > :53:54.schools through legislation, but the government does continue to state
:53:55. > :53:57.that this Bill is being brought forward to lay forward foundations
:53:58. > :54:01.for educational excellence in all schools, giving every child the best
:54:02. > :54:06.start in life, and aim which clearly every member in this chamber shares,
:54:07. > :54:10.but this will be done by moving towards a system where all schools
:54:11. > :54:16.are academies and all schools are fairly funded and despite there
:54:17. > :54:20.being no evidence that academies and leads to improved performance we are
:54:21. > :54:25.informed that one of the main benefits of the bill would be to
:54:26. > :54:29.convert schools to economies -- academies in the worst performing
:54:30. > :54:32.local authorities and those that can no longer viably support the
:54:33. > :54:38.remaining schools so a new system thereby good and outstanding schools
:54:39. > :54:42.can take place. Given that the education services grant which fans
:54:43. > :54:45.local authority spending on school services on the management of school
:54:46. > :54:51.buildings on the tackling of nonattendance was cut by 200,000,020
:54:52. > :55:00.16 and is to be cut by 600 million, or 75% in later years, it would be
:55:01. > :55:03.helpful if the Minister could clarify which councils the
:55:04. > :55:07.government expects will still be able to viably support their local
:55:08. > :55:15.schools in such financial circumstances. The bill announced by
:55:16. > :55:21.the Queen 's speech will mean that good and outstanding schools can be
:55:22. > :55:24.made to convert regardless of the professional judgment of school
:55:25. > :55:28.leaders and the judgment of parents and local authorities. Schools have
:55:29. > :55:31.had the chance to convert the many years and have considered and
:55:32. > :55:36.rejected this as a way forward but we know that many other schools are
:55:37. > :55:40.already choosing, and I put that non-modal verb' is to go down the
:55:41. > :55:44.path of Academy isolation because they would rather jump before they
:55:45. > :55:48.are pushed. Many will have already started down that path following the
:55:49. > :55:52.announcement of forced my station for all schools at the Budget and
:55:53. > :55:57.will continue down that because they can quite clearly see that the
:55:58. > :56:04.government 's U-turn and promises of listening to everyone's concerns are
:56:05. > :56:07.clearly not all that they are cracked up to be. The education for
:56:08. > :56:08.all Bill also promises to make school funding fairer, with a
:56:09. > :56:12.national funding formula that schools with the same kind of pupils
:56:13. > :56:16.get the same funding. Could the Minister therefore confirm whether
:56:17. > :56:19.the government intends to go ahead with the area cost adjustment
:56:20. > :56:24.multiplier to the formula which would see schools in my region of
:56:25. > :56:27.the north-east losing out? As a director of schools north-east has
:56:28. > :56:31.commented, ironically the government is fuelling the North/ South divide
:56:32. > :56:35.in education by proposing to fund schools with similar characteristics
:56:36. > :56:40.differently, based on the location. This means our region will be losing
:56:41. > :56:45.funds to the Southwart most high cost areas are located on the
:56:46. > :56:49.rationale behind this is flawed. These concerns are extremely timely,
:56:50. > :56:52.given the findings of an IP are North report earlier this week that
:56:53. > :56:57.secondary schools in the North of England, or the Northern Powerhouse
:56:58. > :57:04.to give us our correct title, are currently receiving ?1300 per pupil
:57:05. > :57:08.( schools in London. This situation clearly needs rectifying and if the
:57:09. > :57:14.Northern Powerhouse is ever to become anything more than an empty
:57:15. > :57:17.announcement. I also wanted to comment on the proposed children and
:57:18. > :57:21.social work bill that seeks to shorten the time it takes for
:57:22. > :57:25.children to be placed within a stable and loving family, as well as
:57:26. > :57:30.facing additional restrictions on local authorities so that children
:57:31. > :57:34.are placed with support. There is not a member in the house that would
:57:35. > :57:37.not support those aims. We have to look at the prison trust report
:57:38. > :57:42.published this week to be reminded that too many of our children in
:57:43. > :57:46.care are being let down. With the report finding that up to half of
:57:47. > :57:50.the children in England and well have at some point been in the care
:57:51. > :57:54.system, indeed 20% of the adult prison population had been in care,
:57:55. > :57:58.which suggest that something has gone very badly wrong in our system
:57:59. > :58:02.and as Barnardos have highlighted, the bill will be the second piece of
:58:03. > :58:05.legislation to address adoption in as many years so the government
:58:06. > :58:14.rhetoric must be translated into action. As Barnardos also made clear
:58:15. > :58:17.it is a complex challenge. 3000 children in the UK are waiting to be
:58:18. > :58:20.adopted as some are waiting two years or even three and a half when
:58:21. > :58:29.they are older. I strongly welcome any measures that help to speed this
:58:30. > :58:32.process up. For those children leaving the care system every year
:58:33. > :58:39.the government is pledging to ensure greater support as well as the
:58:40. > :58:43.chance to further support until 25. We know the current service
:58:44. > :58:46.provision simply does not meet demand and I would argue it does not
:58:47. > :58:54.meet demand for a crucial missing piece of the jigsaw. The NSPCC's
:58:55. > :58:57.it's time campaign has powerfully -- powerfully highlighted that almost
:58:58. > :59:00.two thirds of children and young people entering the care system have
:59:01. > :59:04.experienced abuse and neglect and they are more likely to have mental
:59:05. > :59:07.health needs. But we are not properly counting of tracking abused
:59:08. > :59:11.and neglected children, including those in the care system, so we
:59:12. > :59:14.don't know if they are receiving the correct therapeutic support at the
:59:15. > :59:17.time that they needed to rebuild their lives and the findings of the
:59:18. > :59:20.education select committee enquiry into well-being and mental health of
:59:21. > :59:25.looked after children published last month were truly stark and must be
:59:26. > :59:28.addressed if the government is serious about tackling this issue.
:59:29. > :59:32.The committee heard incredibly powerful evidence from a 16-year-old
:59:33. > :59:37.young woman in foster care who told us she had been waiting for over two
:59:38. > :59:43.and a half years but had been unable to access a service because she had
:59:44. > :59:50.not been in a stable placement. She had been moved 13 times. Clearly
:59:51. > :59:55.services are unwilling to help a child even if they move placement in
:59:56. > :59:58.the same local authority area and that is unacceptable and
:59:59. > :00:01.counter-productive. I would suggest that it is no good pledging support
:00:02. > :00:05.to children and young people on leaving the care system if they
:00:06. > :00:09.don't actually provide them with the support they need on entering it and
:00:10. > :00:14.that is why the education select committee widely recommended that
:00:15. > :00:17.all children should have a specialist mental health assessment
:00:18. > :00:21.on entry into care and regular during their time in care and they
:00:22. > :00:24.should ensure that they receive and appropriate advice before they
:00:25. > :00:28.reached crisis point. It is a key change that we need to see if we are
:00:29. > :00:32.to increase the number of adoptions and long-term placement and in proof
:00:33. > :00:36.the outcomes of those leaving the care system. It is a fundamental
:00:37. > :00:39.building block to those achieving those aims are not an added extra
:00:40. > :00:46.and I would strongly urge the government to consider including it
:00:47. > :00:51.as part of these reforms. Education is the building block for our
:00:52. > :00:55.society. It is the foundation of all opportunities and that is why I am
:00:56. > :01:00.delighted that this government is putting, really creating at the
:01:01. > :01:02.heart of an objective of getting greater social mobility and ensuring
:01:03. > :01:07.we have a fine education standards for all. Delivering on the
:01:08. > :01:10.Conservative Party manifesto of a new national funding formula is
:01:11. > :01:14.something I am proud of and something that will ensure that all
:01:15. > :01:17.schools in Chippenham should get the money they deserve. A fairer funding
:01:18. > :01:20.system is something I have campaigned for for a long time, well
:01:21. > :01:25.before the election, and I pay tribute to all the members of the
:01:26. > :01:30.fairer funding campaign and all of the thousands of pupils and parents
:01:31. > :01:33.and teachers in my constituency and constituencies up and down the
:01:34. > :01:53.country that put pressure on the government to achieve this
:01:54. > :01:57.early. The two long school funding has been extremely unfair towards
:01:58. > :01:58.pupils, particularly in rural areas and market towns. Successive
:01:59. > :02:00.governments have done generations of children ages service and
:02:01. > :02:02.fundamentally an injustice. The effects have been exasperated in
:02:03. > :02:05.rural areas where services are far more expensive to deliver. The most
:02:06. > :02:07.important aim of the new education Bill is that it will close the
:02:08. > :02:10.productivity gap between the UK and other countries. The skills plan
:02:11. > :02:12.will set out an ambitious form to technical education to ensure that
:02:13. > :02:17.young people are equipped with the skills that they need to succeed.
:02:18. > :02:22.The simple fact is that an under skilled workforce limits the company
:02:23. > :02:26.'s growth and their prospects and, in turn, the prospects of the
:02:27. > :02:30.country. If our labour side don't -- supply does not map to our jobs
:02:31. > :02:35.market the result means that companies falls to locate elsewhere
:02:36. > :02:40.or, in fact, close. This effect is real and personally my constituency,
:02:41. > :02:44.one that I hear week in, week out. The UK is the 11th biggest
:02:45. > :02:48.manufacturer in the world and I was delighted to hear measures within
:02:49. > :02:52.the Queen's Speech to support the electric car industry, something
:02:53. > :02:56.that is a massive opportunity for us and one that I hope will help
:02:57. > :02:57.Wiltshire businesses and we can capitalise on as can other areas in
:02:58. > :03:05.the country. Investment and research and
:03:06. > :03:12.development is welcome but will only be welcome when it is coupled with
:03:13. > :03:16.addressing the skills gap to ensure we remain competitive research and
:03:17. > :03:21.development. We must not forget the severe shortage we have with
:03:22. > :03:23.engineers. According to the institution of engineering and
:03:24. > :03:28.technology, the country will need almost 2 million ex-engineers or the
:03:29. > :03:33.next seven years. This could severely limit their ability to make
:03:34. > :03:38.the most of government investment. There are more teachers with degrees
:03:39. > :03:45.and more pupils doing maths and sciences, but there are still
:03:46. > :03:52.massive shortages and the number of females in STEM careers are still
:03:53. > :03:55.low. The number of women in engineering is just 6%. Something
:03:56. > :04:01.needs to be done to address this and I hope the new education bill does
:04:02. > :04:04.something about this. I am delighted by what the government has already
:04:05. > :04:10.done to join up the link between businesses and schools. A school in
:04:11. > :04:14.my constituency I visited last week have an excellent school they just
:04:15. > :04:18.launched, an innovative scheme focusing on membership of local
:04:19. > :04:22.businesses that then supports the Korean education, advice and
:04:23. > :04:26.opportunities, which in turn funds the work experience programme. This
:04:27. > :04:31.is the blueprint of what we should be doing up and down the country and
:04:32. > :04:35.I would like to invite the Minister Secretary of State on 15th July to
:04:36. > :04:43.the opening of this, to a programme which really could be utilised
:04:44. > :04:45.elsewhere. It is placing the emphasis on local labour market
:04:46. > :04:51.intelligence and informing young people about jobs available.
:04:52. > :04:57.Informed choices would ensure areas like Wiltshire can reverse the drain
:04:58. > :05:02.away of youth that is happening in constituencies like mine so we can
:05:03. > :05:08.safeguard the engineering hop and ensure the skill set is available.
:05:09. > :05:11.It is quite simple, to make our economy productive we need to have
:05:12. > :05:18.an education system that is productive. The Minister will know
:05:19. > :05:23.full well that I regularly have campaigned for design and
:05:24. > :05:27.technology. For too long the subjects have been misunderstood,
:05:28. > :05:31.stigmatised and stereotyped. If we are to plug the ever-growing skills
:05:32. > :05:38.gap we need to address this and that this why they acknowledged
:05:39. > :05:40.productivity crisis head-on. I am confident the education Bill
:05:41. > :05:45.announced in the Queen's Speech will see some good steps towards this and
:05:46. > :05:50.towards addressing the productivity crisis. Would she agree also that
:05:51. > :05:54.actually it is very important that we look to all businesses because I
:05:55. > :06:00.had been approached by bakers and clockmakers of them my own
:06:01. > :06:02.constituency who find that the apprenticeship scheme needs a little
:06:03. > :06:06.more flexibility in order to cope with small business needs as well as
:06:07. > :06:10.the large ones she mentions. I am delighted by the excellent point and
:06:11. > :06:15.indeed we need to make sure we are supporting businesses, bakers and
:06:16. > :06:19.plumbers and electricians who are the backbone of our economy and
:06:20. > :06:26.important to constituencies. Just to get back to the point in hand, the
:06:27. > :06:29.government is rightly pushing ahead for ensuring education is rigorous
:06:30. > :06:34.and ensuring students get the key skills they need in the workplace,
:06:35. > :06:39.and I fully support this. I would never suggest it is anything but a
:06:40. > :06:48.robust and clear plan. However, the push towards the EBacc and its
:06:49. > :06:54.current form does not address the stigma towards design and technology
:06:55. > :06:58.and engineering. That is why I would hope the new education Bill would
:06:59. > :07:02.address this. I would like to see the vastly improved, highly
:07:03. > :07:08.scientific design and technology DS -- GS -- GCSE we're are having
:07:09. > :07:11.including a science element. There is huge support for this from the
:07:12. > :07:15.business community who are crying out for change. This would not
:07:16. > :07:20.represent a U-turn on policy. It is a minor change to strengthen and
:07:21. > :07:26.safeguard the EBacc and given the scientific and academic nature, this
:07:27. > :07:31.government has invested heavily in this, and done a great deal of
:07:32. > :07:33.considerable work, there will be no outcry for other vocational subjects
:07:34. > :07:38.because this is a totally different matter. There is also compete
:07:39. > :07:42.science which was introduced to the EBacc because of the shortages in
:07:43. > :07:47.this field, yet this doesn't make a lot of field when the shortages and
:07:48. > :07:52.design of technology are far greater than those in the digital
:07:53. > :07:56.industries. What I am proposing is that design and technology be
:07:57. > :08:01.included as an option just like computer sciences but it is an
:08:02. > :08:05.either or so that students can pick between computer science and design
:08:06. > :08:09.and technology. It would mean it in no way Watters down the EBacc and
:08:10. > :08:16.its academic rigour but instead enhance it. It would also on hand
:08:17. > :08:19.status as a route into design and manufacturing that design and
:08:20. > :08:22.technology errors, as well as highlighting that this government
:08:23. > :08:29.has yet again to listen to the business community and its need for
:08:30. > :08:41.the future economy. Would you not acknowledge as an overlap that might
:08:42. > :08:45.be ruled out by the proposal? Designer technology is the only
:08:46. > :08:54.subject which puts maths and physics to practical use, and that in Norway
:08:55. > :08:57.as an IT -based course comparable to and it is one of the only subject
:08:58. > :09:01.that produces a clear pipeline towards a career in that sector, and
:09:02. > :09:05.giving students a choice is what we all believe in and we also believe
:09:06. > :09:09.in giving them the best opportunities for the future that
:09:10. > :09:13.lies ahead, so this simple change would be about what businesses need
:09:14. > :09:18.but also what the economy needs, and also what students need if we are
:09:19. > :09:21.honest. This change would highlight that the government needs to align
:09:22. > :09:25.the education system more with the economy and give the young the best
:09:26. > :09:31.opportunity in life. If we are to remain at the forefront we must take
:09:32. > :09:37.action and I believe that bolstering the designer technology EBacc is an
:09:38. > :09:41.important step to addressing the skills shortage and safeguarding the
:09:42. > :09:46.future of the subject and supporting skills and British businesses. As I
:09:47. > :09:50.said before to the Prime Minister, the skills shortage is actually a
:09:51. > :09:54.ticking time bomb. My constituency is one of the key challenges we
:09:55. > :09:57.face. I am confident the measures announced in the Queen's Speech
:09:58. > :10:03.would take significant steps towards addressing the skills gap and
:10:04. > :10:06.boosting productivity, but I hope the measures in the bill would go
:10:07. > :10:14.towards tackling this important issue. Thank you. It is a pleasure
:10:15. > :10:19.to follow the member for Chippenham and the member for Newcastle and are
:10:20. > :10:26.passionate contributions to the importance of young people. It is
:10:27. > :10:33.difficult to have a discussion given the frankly not elephant but indeed
:10:34. > :10:39.circus in the room of what this will mean, the referendum, but it is
:10:40. > :10:42.frankly remarkable to me to hear this government saying that
:10:43. > :10:47.increasing life chances of the most disadvantaged as a priority. Given
:10:48. > :10:53.the choices they have made, it is like a dentist offering you an
:10:54. > :11:00.anaesthetic after he has taken note duties for no reason at all. Life
:11:01. > :11:08.chances is something we often say without seeing what it is, and the
:11:09. > :11:12.determination to make sure every person from every background has
:11:13. > :11:16.every opportunity to fulfil that potential, and I want to point out
:11:17. > :11:19.my fears of code in this ever-changing world we're running
:11:20. > :11:22.out of time to recognise that this means doing things entirely
:11:23. > :11:25.differently to the world we live in now. I believe everyone across the
:11:26. > :11:30.South is proud of the young people we represent, and the factors that
:11:31. > :11:35.mean the difference between them realising this and we think this. I
:11:36. > :11:38.do this job because I believe someone might community is somebody
:11:39. > :11:43.who has the skills to cure cancer the full they had the opportunity,
:11:44. > :11:46.and we would all benefit. Our job is to make sure they have those
:11:47. > :11:50.pathways to be the kinds of people they could be to change our lives
:11:51. > :11:54.and that is why I think this Queen's Speech misses the mark. We actors of
:11:55. > :11:59.opportunity as the ladder we have all known but to improve life
:12:00. > :12:02.chances we simply to get more of the next generation to take the steam
:12:03. > :12:06.steps we took. Go to school and settle into a career. If we are
:12:07. > :12:10.honest I know it wasn't that simple for ourselves and most of us can
:12:11. > :12:14.point to times in life when we had a helping hand up the ladder. Good
:12:15. > :12:19.parents, good teachers, good networks, all of whom opened the
:12:20. > :12:23.doors. Not just schools and universities but internships and job
:12:24. > :12:27.opportunities. The world is changing so quickly to really change the life
:12:28. > :12:32.chances for all of today's 15-year-olds and we need to do more
:12:33. > :12:36.to open up the old boys network. We need to see opportunity less as the
:12:37. > :12:44.more Ray Mears, with many different doors and by-elections and
:12:45. > :12:48.Whitstable. -- routes to go. Isn't what we need more good and
:12:49. > :12:51.outstanding schools producing better standards over also we can go on and
:12:52. > :12:56.fulfil our dreams and that is what this government is delivering? If
:12:57. > :12:59.the honourable gentleman let me continue I hope I can convince them
:13:00. > :13:04.to think bigger. When involved in the Scouts, we always said the key
:13:05. > :13:10.to recognise is that while everyone has been a 15-year-old, not everyone
:13:11. > :13:15.has entered a's world. If we want to improve life chances they don't just
:13:16. > :13:19.need help to get a job. They live in a world where it is predicted they
:13:20. > :13:24.will hold seven different careers, two of which yet to be invented.
:13:25. > :13:26.Every generation has faced change but this generation sees it not just
:13:27. > :13:31.in their lifetime but within a decade. The deal challenge to future
:13:32. > :13:36.prospects is not Romanian immigrants but robots, just like friends
:13:37. > :13:41.reunited was overtaken by Facebook, so technology is replacing not just
:13:42. > :13:45.manual labourer but skills. Prescriptions filled, legal forms
:13:46. > :13:51.checked, car is driven. It is a time of peril and potential, add up to
:13:52. > :13:55.fall behind. Little certainty as to be had and little time to catch
:13:56. > :13:58.breath. Because the world moves so quickly it means that if you keep
:13:59. > :14:03.learning new skills there are job opportunities that arise. There are
:14:04. > :14:11.more second chances than ever before, but not only are we feeling
:14:12. > :14:14.the Next Generation, my fear is that we can end up reinforcing the
:14:15. > :14:18.inequalities that already define life chances for so many. The
:14:19. > :14:22.Institute for Fiscal Studies sure graduates from richer family
:14:23. > :14:26.backgrounds and significantly more than their less wealthy counterparts
:14:27. > :14:31.even when they takes a more degrees and this isn't just happening at
:14:32. > :14:34.universities. -- similar degrees. Research shows that at good and
:14:35. > :14:43.outstanding schools there are large attainment gaps between rich and
:14:44. > :14:45.poor schools. The OECD has the biggest gap between 16 and
:14:46. > :14:49.19-year-olds who are not in education or employment and young
:14:50. > :14:53.people out of all countries surveyed. Our failure to teach
:14:54. > :14:57.skills that can be transferred or relevant means too many young people
:14:58. > :15:01.are not just revelling in their home territory but also against European
:15:02. > :15:04.or Chinese are South American counterparts and that isn't the
:15:05. > :15:08.cause of members of the European Union but because of their very
:15:09. > :15:13.British education. As many of my colleagues pointed out we face the
:15:14. > :15:16.biggest skills shortage for years so we have growing inequality and an
:15:17. > :15:21.outdated idea of what would fix these issues. The choices made in
:15:22. > :15:26.this Queen's Speech offer little to prepare them for the world to come
:15:27. > :15:28.and that this would only work for the minority unless independently
:15:29. > :15:33.wealthy, beneficiaries of the bank of mum and dad. The education Bill
:15:34. > :15:38.is a case in point with its obsession for tunnelling schools and
:15:39. > :15:42.academies and not every young person into an achiever. It isolates
:15:43. > :15:46.schools and doesn't link them in with businesses and opportunities.
:15:47. > :15:51.The higher education Bill would put more money into that just as they
:15:52. > :15:54.need more access to other boards, to apprenticeships and further
:15:55. > :15:58.education and internships. A bill that comes at the same time as the
:15:59. > :16:01.area based review of further education is seeking to close down
:16:02. > :16:11.those institutions. Whilst it is welcome that the government has
:16:12. > :16:15.again welcomed its commitment, poor people will again continue to get a
:16:16. > :16:20.worse deal than their affluent counterparts even if they make it to
:16:21. > :16:25.the same school. I am grateful to my honourable friend and she is making
:16:26. > :16:30.a compelling case for tackling some of the inequalities that exist in
:16:31. > :16:35.our education system. She will know of the huge benefits that were
:16:36. > :16:39.derived from the London challenge. Does she not recognise that this
:16:40. > :16:46.model ought to be replicated outside of London and indeed in places like
:16:47. > :16:50.Greater Manchester, one of the first acts of this government was to scrap
:16:51. > :16:55.the challenge? My honourable friend is exactly to point out that there
:16:56. > :17:00.are good examples where he can make a change in results that this
:17:01. > :17:04.government seems to have missed. We know the student loan brokers bust
:17:05. > :17:07.and we know University is not the only door in the maze of young
:17:08. > :17:12.people can open to unlock potential. I frankly think we should be asking
:17:13. > :17:16.the question and in a time of tight resources, why young people in my
:17:17. > :17:18.constituency who are able to make it through A-levels get offered a loan
:17:19. > :17:23.to go to university but we have nothing to offer those who have
:17:24. > :17:27.great business start-up idea? When 30% of Britain's young people want
:17:28. > :17:31.to start a business, to be the Jamal Edwards of their time, we ignore
:17:32. > :17:40.that potential at our peril, so focusing on 50% of kids who do the
:17:41. > :17:43.thing we see as important, not the 100% who need access to the bank of
:17:44. > :17:45.mum and dad to succeed, is what this government is doing. Money matters,
:17:46. > :17:48.contact matters, flexibility matters, but none of these pieces of
:17:49. > :17:52.legislation will fundamentally tackle those inequalities in access
:17:53. > :17:56.to skills and real-life experience to many in a country face. To bring
:17:57. > :17:57.together not just the institutions but the networks that can help young
:17:58. > :18:10.people died in the world to come. The government might see you should
:18:11. > :18:15.save more and can make more choices about studying. But this will mean
:18:16. > :18:21.nothing to families with no savings, no spear money in the week let alone
:18:22. > :18:25.the month. I fought for the Child trust fund to be saved, which would
:18:26. > :18:30.help those from the poorest income backgrounds the most. And give all
:18:31. > :18:36.18-year-olds something, not much, but something. Instead, inequalities
:18:37. > :18:44.will become even more, and having no money at all. The bank of mum and
:18:45. > :18:49.dad bails out grown-up children to the value of ?6,000 even after they
:18:50. > :18:54.have grown-up. One in three parents have been left cash-strapped after
:18:55. > :18:57.lending money to children, one in seven having to lend money
:18:58. > :19:04.themselves to bail out children. This government is reinforcing
:19:05. > :19:09.inequality, feeling one generation, locking another into debt to help
:19:10. > :19:13.them. If we really want to give our children more life chances, to
:19:14. > :19:18.benefit from their potential, we have to compete in the global
:19:19. > :19:23.economy, not capsized, which means a different approach. We need to bring
:19:24. > :19:29.services together instead of what this government is doing, winking
:19:30. > :19:37.universities, schools, communities. -- linking. We need to have a link
:19:38. > :19:40.between conventional academic achievement and lifelong
:19:41. > :19:46.employability. Move away from teaching functional skills which are
:19:47. > :19:50.outdated as soon as the 11. Young people need real-world learning
:19:51. > :19:55.experiences, transferable talents, giving them complex problem-solving
:19:56. > :19:59.skills and team work. And we need to rethink how we spend resources and
:20:00. > :20:05.share them, offering loans and support not just a 50% of young
:20:06. > :20:11.people but 100%, ending the need to have the bank of mum and dad to
:20:12. > :20:17.survive this injury. Do not assume your own life choices will apply to
:20:18. > :20:24.all young people. -- survive this 21st century. I believe we will
:20:25. > :20:32.always be a nation clean cap -- playing catch up. Making the bank of
:20:33. > :20:38.mum and dad the only hope, to the detriment of too many and to the
:20:39. > :20:42.cost of us all. Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker.
:20:43. > :20:49.Addressing issues with the skills base will be key to tackling the
:20:50. > :20:52.productivity gap to ensure long-term successful and sustainable economy,
:20:53. > :20:59.ensuring young people are equipped with skills to succeed in life, this
:21:00. > :21:03.needs to underpin the entire education system, schools, colleges
:21:04. > :21:07.and universities. Young people and businesses need this. We need to
:21:08. > :21:13.ensure young people have the skills to contribute to our economy. But
:21:14. > :21:19.it's not just the education system alone that can help improve young
:21:20. > :21:23.people's life chances. The National citizens service is a fantastic
:21:24. > :21:30.programme which has to date been able to handle those and 15-17
:21:31. > :21:34.-year-olds benefit from new and different life experiences. Over the
:21:35. > :21:37.last couple of years I've been really fortunate to have the
:21:38. > :21:45.opportunity to see first-hand the benefits of young people in one
:21:46. > :21:48.region from this programme. They have been planning community
:21:49. > :21:55.projects, packed bags for customers in Sainsbury's, filled boxes for the
:21:56. > :22:02.district food back. The Outward Bound programme is a great start and
:22:03. > :22:08.a real favourite for participants. You can see many overcome lots of
:22:09. > :22:13.years. I have not attended one part, but I know they are keen for me to
:22:14. > :22:19.take part, to overcome one of my own fears, that of heights. There is
:22:20. > :22:23.another blonde member in this House well-known for experiences on as the
:22:24. > :22:33.wire. I only hope that I find myself on one I don't get stuck. --
:22:34. > :22:36.experience on a zipwire. I have seen how young people learning
:22:37. > :22:42.confidence, where to your building, I have been inspired, and I want to
:22:43. > :22:47.work to extend so that more young people from a variety of backgrounds
:22:48. > :22:53.can benefit from this life changing experience. And the duty on schools,
:22:54. > :22:59.colleges, universities and communities will help make young
:23:00. > :23:04.people aware. I will give away. Do you agree that it is of huge benefit
:23:05. > :23:09.to young people, some 6 million hours of volunteering, through the
:23:10. > :23:16.social action part of the programme, having been invested in the young
:23:17. > :23:21.people but also broader economy, as well as teaching them several
:23:22. > :23:26.valuable life lessons. Thank you for your intervention. She is right, it
:23:27. > :23:30.is not just about young people, local communities gain, we were
:23:31. > :23:36.packing bags in the local Sainsbury's to raise money for a
:23:37. > :23:42.local charity. A wide range of genetic groups and charities benefit
:23:43. > :23:46.from this scheme. Making sure young people are aware of different
:23:47. > :23:54.options we we to them -- available to them, such as qualifications, so
:23:55. > :23:59.I am pleased either new requirement for schools to inform children about
:24:00. > :24:03.apprenticeships and other vocational qualifications. After all,
:24:04. > :24:09.University is not the right option for everybody. To those who do want
:24:10. > :24:14.to go to university we must ensure they get the best value for their
:24:15. > :24:18.experience and don't graduate into non-graduate jobs. The lifting of
:24:19. > :24:23.the artificial cap on student numbers means there are many more of
:24:24. > :24:27.university places being made available, record numbers of
:24:28. > :24:32.students going to university, this is excellent news. Hire her, it is
:24:33. > :24:38.concerning the number of graduates going into non-graduate jobs and all
:24:39. > :24:44.too often we hear students, parents, businesses asking worrying
:24:45. > :24:48.questions, which is is a degree really worth it? The Higher
:24:49. > :24:51.Education and Research Bill gives us a blueprint for making what is
:24:52. > :24:59.already a great university sector even better. The higher education
:25:00. > :25:02.sector to date has been too heavily careered on academic research -- too
:25:03. > :25:08.heavily geared on academic research. This bill will focus on quality
:25:09. > :25:14.teaching and getting students into good graduate opportunities. The new
:25:15. > :25:20.excellence framework will alongside the bill put into place incentives
:25:21. > :25:24.designed to drive up standards of teaching in all universities and
:25:25. > :25:28.provide students with more clarity as to where teaching is best and the
:25:29. > :25:32.benefits they can expect from their course. This will create more
:25:33. > :25:39.competition to ensure all universities raise their game. The
:25:40. > :25:44.link between this incentive and tuition fees is crucial, providing a
:25:45. > :25:48.mechanism to ensure universities remain financially sustainable but
:25:49. > :25:55.only if they drive up quality of teaching. The business innovation
:25:56. > :26:03.skills Select Committee looked closely at this incentive, and in
:26:04. > :26:08.the report, we recognised the role that it could play in terms of
:26:09. > :26:12.ensuring universities meet with student expectations and improve on
:26:13. > :26:19.their leading international position. We did urge the government
:26:20. > :26:29.not to rush into the introduction of the incentive, so I am pleased the
:26:30. > :26:34.White Paper will use 2017-2018 as a trial year, and we can have further
:26:35. > :26:40.input from the educational unity into consultation. The report also
:26:41. > :26:44.called on the sector to work with the government to help the
:26:45. > :26:50.development of the incentive. I hope they do so because it is important
:26:51. > :26:53.to the future of the sector, its financial sustainability, the
:26:54. > :26:57.employment and career opportunities of graduates, as well as our
:26:58. > :27:03.economy. We will scrutinise the details of the Higher Education and
:27:04. > :27:07.Research Bill in the coming weeks, but what is increasingly clear from
:27:08. > :27:12.the opposition parties amendment is they don't have a credible plan for
:27:13. > :27:16.higher education, other than to threaten the financial
:27:17. > :27:21.sustainability of our world-class higher education sector. To
:27:22. > :27:26.conclude, addressing the skills of our young people will be key to
:27:27. > :27:32.helping us solve the productivity puzzle. That is why I welcome many
:27:33. > :27:35.of the measures set out in the Queen's Speech, which are designed
:27:36. > :27:42.to ensure our young people have the skills to get on in life.
:27:43. > :27:47.Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker, it is a pleasure to follow the
:27:48. > :27:54.honourable member for Cannock Chase and I enjoy picturing higher as a
:27:55. > :27:59.blonde on a wire, and I admire the gusto under which she and attains
:28:00. > :28:06.her role as a constituency MP. It reflects well on the introduction of
:28:07. > :28:12.the NCS, along with the demise of our youth service, but I regress we
:28:13. > :28:19.no longer have a targeted effective resource on my local community to
:28:20. > :28:22.deal with some of the very real and immediate problems presented, not
:28:23. > :28:28.just for young people, but by the community widely, the youth service
:28:29. > :28:33.is helpful in dealing with that. It is also a great pleasure to follow
:28:34. > :28:38.the member for Walthamstow and I wish we had confirmed before this
:28:39. > :28:42.afternoon, because I find myself removing segments of my speech
:28:43. > :28:49.because she did such a great job in making the case for why this
:28:50. > :28:56.government, the credibility of any life chances strategy, when it
:28:57. > :28:58.emerges, is questionable given the government's record, and I find
:28:59. > :29:06.myself pondering the term life chances. It is much better than
:29:07. > :29:13.social mobility, because that is not widely understood, and life chances
:29:14. > :29:17.was initially coined by Max Faber, a famous sociologist, and it is a good
:29:18. > :29:25.thing the Tories are taking some reference from the work of Max
:29:26. > :29:29.Faber. This is positive, but the term life chances could become
:29:30. > :29:34.rubbished, because they will mess it up and will not deliver any
:29:35. > :29:38.improvement in life chances that is meaningful to most people in this
:29:39. > :29:45.country. And the term life chances could go the way of localism, the
:29:46. > :29:49.Big Society, and increasingly in my part of the country, the Northern
:29:50. > :29:54.Powerhouse. It is our term treated with utter derision and contempt.
:29:55. > :30:03.And I would hate that to happen to the term life chances. Because I am
:30:04. > :30:09.Law class warrior, but I am Labour, and we are about life chances and
:30:10. > :30:13.widening opportunity. -- I am now class warrior. Everyone in the
:30:14. > :30:21.Labour Party is interested in life chances. I am happy to take an
:30:22. > :30:25.intervention, should you wish to make one. But it is difficult to see
:30:26. > :30:32.how this government intends to proceed with improving life chances
:30:33. > :30:36.when it paid for the Child poverty and social mobility commission,
:30:37. > :30:39.still paying for this commission, writing excellent first-class
:30:40. > :30:48.reports, the research commissioned is so poor -- superb, but little
:30:49. > :30:54.sight of it in any policies the government seems to put forward, so
:30:55. > :30:58.they make specific recommendations at the commission, that the
:30:59. > :31:03.government ignores, relating directly to the issues under
:31:04. > :31:07.consideration. So, apprenticeships, we've heard from many members who
:31:08. > :31:13.are worried about the quality of apprenticeships. I am, I have seen
:31:14. > :31:17.extremely questionable examples of apprenticeships, where they are too
:31:18. > :31:26.short, poor quality, and don't lead anywhere. Apprenticeships should be,
:31:27. > :31:31.according to the commission, there should be a target that around
:31:32. > :31:34.30,000 should be higher-level apprenticeships, level three
:31:35. > :31:41.apprenticeships. There is a real problem with the difference in your
:31:42. > :31:46.life chances around what you do when you are 16, those decisions you make
:31:47. > :31:51.when you are 16 determine your life chances for the rest of your life.
:31:52. > :31:58.And if you take a nine academic route after 16th, your chances of
:31:59. > :32:08.doing well later in life are greatly diminished -- -- non-academic route.
:32:09. > :32:16.I will give way. I am grateful and you've made me of a scheme from 2010
:32:17. > :32:23.in my constituency. And that was Aim Higher, about encouraging young
:32:24. > :32:27.people from lower income backgrounds that higher education was something
:32:28. > :32:32.to them, such as what my mum and dad did, encouraging me to go into
:32:33. > :32:36.higher education. Isn't it a travesty that one of the first thing
:32:37. > :32:42.this government did was scrapped Aim Higher? It is, and we do not do
:32:43. > :32:47.enough at universities to encourage more people from other backgrounds
:32:48. > :32:56.to go into higher education. I have seen Gordons -- we know the
:32:57. > :33:02.long-term impact of some of the things is weak. We find people who
:33:03. > :33:09.don't go on to university, the life chances are limited, because 42% of
:33:10. > :33:14.them do all right. They find themselves in the top half of
:33:15. > :33:21.occupations, relatively well-paid, get further training and progression
:33:22. > :33:28.throughout their careers. But men in lower half occupations are low paid,
:33:29. > :33:31.there is no progression, making up 16% of non-graduates, mostly younger
:33:32. > :33:38.men working in lower paying occupations. They are the skilled
:33:39. > :33:43.but stuck, or for qualified, and generally women in part-time work,
:33:44. > :33:48.also making up 16% of non-graduates. They are mostly mothers in low paid
:33:49. > :33:55.occupations such as sales and customer services. They are not able
:33:56. > :33:56.to reach in or get childcare or get part-time work in occupations for
:33:57. > :34:08.which they may well be qualified. They does tend to be women as well.
:34:09. > :34:12.26% of nongraduates, they tend to have children, and they have low
:34:13. > :34:15.qualifications and they are at real risk of getting stuck, because if
:34:16. > :34:21.you miss that -- mess it up when you are 16, so you don't do so well in
:34:22. > :34:27.your GCSEs, or you can't get the advice about what is best to do, and
:34:28. > :34:33.you make a poor choice, you might... Because your friends are doing it,
:34:34. > :34:37.you might end up doing hairdressing, beauty therapy, is something low
:34:38. > :34:40.paid because you have not really had it explained to what alternatives
:34:41. > :34:46.might be out there for you. It is almost impossible to now get out of
:34:47. > :34:50.that, and get into something where you have a real chance of
:34:51. > :34:54.progression. If we are going to talk about life chances, it is that
:34:55. > :34:59.stage, if I could fix one thing, that stage in education really needs
:35:00. > :35:05.to be addressed. It is underfunded, it is ignored, there is no decent
:35:06. > :35:09.advice for young people before making those decisions it is really
:35:10. > :35:17.worth having. One of the recommendations again was that there
:35:18. > :35:22.should be a common access point. So if you're going to university, you
:35:23. > :35:27.have the UCAS system, where you are supported through that process, you
:35:28. > :35:31.have deadlines and you understand the process. There is a whole host
:35:32. > :35:39.of information about outcomes and destinations. We have nothing like
:35:40. > :35:46.that for someone trying to get into further education course. That needs
:35:47. > :35:52.to be addressed. I give way. I think the Ondoa -- honourable lady, who is
:35:53. > :35:57.making an extremely interesting and at the site speech. Can I just say
:35:58. > :36:03.as the father of five children who have gone through 16, your point,
:36:04. > :36:10.the honourable Lady's point, forgive me, I deserve to be hanged. The
:36:11. > :36:16.Honourable Lady's point about 16 being a crucial time for decision
:36:17. > :36:22.making is so very important. I just want to reinforce that point, having
:36:23. > :36:25.watched five children go through the age of 16. It is incredibly
:36:26. > :36:33.important, and people should recognise that 16 is the golden age.
:36:34. > :36:36.I am grateful for that in -- for intervention, and it is great to
:36:37. > :36:41.have support across the house to this point. The other point I would
:36:42. > :36:47.make is that we all know that on GCSE day, or a little day in our
:36:48. > :36:51.constituencies, we send out tweets congratulating young people,
:36:52. > :36:56.schools, parents. There is a sense of an event nationally on those
:36:57. > :37:03.days. There is nothing like that attention or celebration or
:37:04. > :37:08.recognition of a non-academic post-16 qualification. We don't have
:37:09. > :37:12.that same sense of a nation coming together to recognise the
:37:13. > :37:18.achievement of our young people, when you get your NVQ level three in
:37:19. > :37:25.whatever it might be. That is wrong. That is a new equality of status --
:37:26. > :37:29.inequality of status, and that is something we need to address if we
:37:30. > :37:34.are really serious about promoting non-graduate routes into the
:37:35. > :37:43.professions. Let's be honest, most of us are going to be encouraging
:37:44. > :37:45.our children to take recent university, because we know that
:37:46. > :37:56.takes -- gives us But non-academic qualifications
:37:57. > :38:02.post-16, those same opportunities, life chances, opportunities pay is
:38:03. > :38:07.available. They will still end up with a situation where life chances
:38:08. > :38:14.are desperately unequal. We will have a position where it is nothing
:38:15. > :38:19.to do with what you know, it is about who you know, who advises you,
:38:20. > :38:23.and even worse, who your parents know. And you do not have the
:38:24. > :38:35.quality of life chances until you address that simple issue. Thank you
:38:36. > :38:39.very much for calling me. It is a great pleasure to follow the very
:38:40. > :38:44.considered tone of the member for Darlington. I always greatly enjoyed
:38:45. > :38:49.in which she makes her speeches. Since I was elected in 2010, I have
:38:50. > :38:57.been overwhelmed by the pageantry associated with the Queens speech,
:38:58. > :39:00.critically the horses, the Sound and vision that accompanies it. But for
:39:01. > :39:06.a variety of reasons, I have never been able to speak in the Queens
:39:07. > :39:12.speech debate, so I'm pleased to be able to do so today. Want to begin
:39:13. > :39:16.by welcoming the legislative programme, especially the focus on
:39:17. > :39:25.life chances, which is featuring so much in today's debate. There is a
:39:26. > :39:30.wide welcome across the house for the life chances of those who are
:39:31. > :39:32.most disadvantaged. It is a competition in terms of
:39:33. > :39:41.progressiveness between parties, and I think that is a terrific way in
:39:42. > :39:48.which we can proceed. I've tick the welcome the proposed bill on prison
:39:49. > :39:53.reform. Clearly, sessions in prison are designed to punish, but just
:39:54. > :39:58.important is rehabilitation. I do feel we are acknowledging that today
:39:59. > :40:04.more than we have done before. That is hugely important. The theme of
:40:05. > :40:08.today's debate is education, skills and training, but because these
:40:09. > :40:13.areas are devolved in my constituency, they are not matters
:40:14. > :40:18.that I want to contribute directly. But I think there is a logic that if
:40:19. > :40:23.I am going to be speaking where the focus is on education that I ought
:40:24. > :40:30.to speak about the Wales Bill, which is clearly where education will be
:40:31. > :40:34.covered in Wales. Perhaps you may have observed that we have a growing
:40:35. > :40:38.tradition in this parliament that we have a Queens speech, and there is a
:40:39. > :40:42.Wales Bill in every Queens speech. That has been the case ever since I
:40:43. > :40:46.joined here. We don't know what is going to be in the Wales Bill, but
:40:47. > :40:52.we have a fair ideal, because -- fair ideal, because there was a
:40:53. > :40:57.draft Bill. We can hazard a guess as to what is going to be in this bill.
:40:58. > :41:03.We expected to be fairly soon. Rumour has it that it will be
:41:04. > :41:10.finished before the summer. The of delivering a stronger, more stable,
:41:11. > :41:17.devolved settlement in Wales. The journey towards the Institute of
:41:18. > :41:21.government began many decades ago. The first step was in 1997, the
:41:22. > :41:30.referendum to establish an institution or not. I was not a
:41:31. > :41:36.supporter in 1997, and I can paint against it. I thought it would be
:41:37. > :41:42.unstable, illogical, and doomed to failure. But Wales voted yes by the
:41:43. > :41:48.narrowest of margins. Driving home from the count in the early hours of
:41:49. > :41:52.morning on 19 September 1997, I do what conservatives tend to do. We
:41:53. > :42:01.come to terms with the new situation, something that we may
:42:02. > :42:06.find ourselves doing on June 24. It was decided that there would be a
:42:07. > :42:10.Welsh assembly, elected by the additional member PR system, which
:42:11. > :42:16.virtually guarantees a labour or Labour lead administration. It
:42:17. > :42:21.became -- I became a member of the Welsh assembly, and I probably still
:42:22. > :42:24.would be except for the way that the PR system works. I can sometimes
:42:25. > :42:37.look in looking forward to taking part in
:42:38. > :42:45.the debate on the wells bill, there will be a lot of differing opinions,
:42:46. > :42:54.including within my own party. Fundamentally, my position on what
:42:55. > :42:59.changes are needed in devolution include income tax. That is what I
:43:00. > :43:04.wanted to speak, and it is crucial to a stable Welsh government. I
:43:05. > :43:07.recall very little support when I first raised it, maybe two or three
:43:08. > :43:13.years ago. I felt quite isolated. That is not the case today. My view
:43:14. > :43:17.was informed by my experience as a conservative spokesman for Finance
:43:18. > :43:22.in the National Assembly for Wales. Every year, we went through a budget
:43:23. > :43:28.process, it was referred to that but it was a spending plan. It took into
:43:29. > :43:34.consideration of both sides of the ledger. That is where I want the
:43:35. > :43:40.devolutionary process to move, so we get that position. One proposal in
:43:41. > :43:43.the Wales Bill will be to rename the National Assembly as a parliament,
:43:44. > :43:47.the Welsh Parliament. I am supportive of that, but they cannot
:43:48. > :43:51.be called a genuine parliament unless it has genuine response
:43:52. > :43:56.ability for raising part of the money it pays for spending. We have
:43:57. > :43:57.just had a Welsh general election where parties other than the
:43:58. > :44:15.Conservative Party were attacking it is not what a Welsh General
:44:16. > :44:20.election should be based on. It is quite a strong opinion, but unless
:44:21. > :44:25.the Wales Bill includes response poverty for levying income tax, a
:44:26. > :44:29.significant amount of income tax, the Wales Bill will deserve to fail.
:44:30. > :44:35.Without financial accountability for the Welsh government, not one iota
:44:36. > :44:40.of more power should be transferred to the Welsh Parliament. That is
:44:41. > :44:45.absolutely my view. There will be other red lines as well in the Wales
:44:46. > :44:51.Bill. I hope all sides of the house will come together to consider very
:44:52. > :44:55.positively how we take this bill forward. Already, we know there is
:44:56. > :45:00.going to be significant changes in the draft bill, the whole error of
:45:01. > :45:04.powers that are going to be reserved for Westminster is going to be far
:45:05. > :45:09.less than we were expecting in the draft bill. I think the necessity
:45:10. > :45:14.tests, which were in the draft bill, and caused a great deal of concern
:45:15. > :45:21.amongst the Welsh government in particular, I think that has gone,
:45:22. > :45:24.but there will be other areas where there will be serious consideration
:45:25. > :45:30.and goodwill to come up with an answer for these. First, the
:45:31. > :45:35.establishing of a Welsh jurisdiction. There has been a body
:45:36. > :45:38.of Welsh law built up, and do we need a separate Welsh jurisdiction
:45:39. > :45:43.to deal with that? I think not, but I think it's an area that the
:45:44. > :45:48.parties have come together to take that forward. Policing, should that
:45:49. > :45:52.be devolved along with other emergency services? There has been a
:45:53. > :45:57.dispute about that issue. We need to think about how we deal with that.
:45:58. > :46:02.Broadcasting, a lot of people think broadcasting should be devolved, but
:46:03. > :46:06.a lot of people don't. I don't think the delivering of a new Wales Bill
:46:07. > :46:09.is going to be easy. I think it is going to be a big challenge for the
:46:10. > :46:15.new Secretary of State for Wales, and it is going to need members on
:46:16. > :46:18.all sides of this house to look positively on how we can get to a
:46:19. > :46:22.new position that we can agree on. We need to be working positively
:46:23. > :46:26.here at Westminster and in Cardiff Bay as well if we are going to
:46:27. > :46:37.deliver a stable government in Wales. Mail apologised to the
:46:38. > :46:43.Minister for missing the start on his speech. I am sure it was
:46:44. > :46:47.persuasive. Politicians are good talkers but poor listeners. But we
:46:48. > :46:51.all listened very carefully to the Queens speech. I try to listen to
:46:52. > :46:58.the schools minister and the Secretary of State, and I listened
:46:59. > :47:04.very carefully to those about policy aims, excellence, opportunities,
:47:05. > :47:08.employability. It is the expiration of their methods and their solutions
:47:09. > :47:14.and the prescription is that I have a problem with. A restructuring and
:47:15. > :47:20.tinkering and the arbitrary disc tax. That is what we have a problem
:47:21. > :47:26.with, but I do try to listen carefully even for the argument is
:47:27. > :47:30.for this. I picked out three issues that trouble me, three persistent
:47:31. > :47:34.fallacies, three persistent mantras that I will briefly sketch and hope
:47:35. > :47:40.the Minister will be able to respond to, because I think it will be a
:47:41. > :47:45.hope -- helpful critique. I'm not sure if the Minister is familiar
:47:46. > :47:51.with Karl Popper, but he drew a distinction between good and bad
:47:52. > :47:55.theories. Bad theories can never be tested and art never forced bible.
:47:56. > :48:02.Mindful of this, I have listened to when a minister has supported a
:48:03. > :48:06.policy backed by land or professional opinion. But I am also
:48:07. > :48:11.listening when a minister declares that total absence of any learning
:48:12. > :48:15.or professional backing for some policies is short evidence that the
:48:16. > :48:16.government is doing something challenging, difficult important and
:48:17. > :48:25.of course, right. Either way the government is
:48:26. > :48:37.correct, this is not falsifiable. The second point is, when there are
:48:38. > :48:42.howls of protest from schools and teachers, there is challenging the
:48:43. > :48:46.interest of pupils, recently talking about vested interests. This assumes
:48:47. > :48:52.erroneously that it is, or could be, in the interests of teachers not to
:48:53. > :48:59.give lessons that are relevant, appropriate and interesting to
:49:00. > :49:03.pupils. Helping with development and capabilities. Try not delivering
:49:04. > :49:08.good lessons if you are a teacher. Teachers who try not to do this
:49:09. > :49:14.generally speaking crash and burn. The conflict of interest is simply
:49:15. > :49:20.an illusion. And the third fallacy I would like to bring to attention is
:49:21. > :49:25.the tendency to announce a policy with laudable objective designed to
:49:26. > :49:30.solve a problem but of doubtful efficacy and suggest that instead of
:49:31. > :49:38.proper assessment one presses on immediately and imperatively. No
:49:39. > :49:47.date could be lost or pupils. That was said. Imagine if one applied the
:49:48. > :49:52.same policy in medical circles exactly how much harm with be done.
:49:53. > :49:57.I have invented none of this. These are the standard items I have heard
:49:58. > :50:02.from the government front bench. I do try to listen. Forget the
:50:03. > :50:07.prejudice behind the policy for a moment, look at the logic and the
:50:08. > :50:14.logic of government policy is quite troubling. Dark talk now of specific
:50:15. > :50:22.vested interests, whether the union, teachers or parents, or academics
:50:23. > :50:27.talking of what used to be the blob, smack of paranoia, not rationality
:50:28. > :50:33.and clinical thinking. Seeing critics always as enemies is the
:50:34. > :50:38.mark of a zealot, not seen, measured policy-making. I would press upon
:50:39. > :50:51.the government for sane measured policy-making. Thank you Madam
:50:52. > :50:54.Deputy Speaker. I am pleased to follow the honourable member for
:50:55. > :51:03.Southport. Although I can't say I agree with all of his analytical
:51:04. > :51:11.comments about logic. And contrary to many members of the opposition,-
:51:12. > :51:16.much to recommend in this Queen's Speech and all the opportunities in
:51:17. > :51:21.gendered in it. I will refer to a few, I am delighted to see education
:51:22. > :51:26.at the heart of the gracious speech and we all it to children to give
:51:27. > :51:33.them the best education that we can. -- we owe it. This government is
:51:34. > :51:38.extending freedom and accountability and this is seen through the two
:51:39. > :51:43.bills, the Higher Education and Research Bill. I will talk firstly
:51:44. > :51:46.about the higher education Bill and one of the key roles of higher
:51:47. > :51:55.education is to equip young people with the tools to enter the working
:51:56. > :52:00.world, enabling young people to here in a good living but also fulfilling
:52:01. > :52:08.living. We have excellent higher education institutions in my
:52:09. > :52:12.constituency. Despite their excellent contributions it is clear
:52:13. > :52:16.from my many discussions with businesses and students there does
:52:17. > :52:24.seem to be a skills gap in Taunton Deane. This has been referred to by
:52:25. > :52:28.many members, and really too often we are losing our best and brightest
:52:29. > :52:34.students, despite Taunton Deane being a lovely place to live, and
:52:35. > :52:38.they are going elsewhere. This is reflecting in productivity of the
:52:39. > :52:43.area. The south-west and Taunton Deane is slightly lower the National
:52:44. > :52:52.productivity level and we need to address that. So how are we going to
:52:53. > :52:54.do this? The idea of course is to get the university to retain young
:52:55. > :52:57.people and even draw them in from elsewhere. So I welcome the
:52:58. > :53:03.provisions within the Higher Education and Research Bill to aid
:53:04. > :53:07.the establishment of new universities to provide those
:53:08. > :53:11.opportunities. And to people of all backgrounds. A university education
:53:12. > :53:17.is one of the very best things we can do to improve life chances, as
:53:18. > :53:22.so many said. I was delighted to introduce this to the Prime Minister
:53:23. > :53:27.in PMQs and get a good response from him. Of course you have guessed
:53:28. > :53:33.that, if you have a university for Somerset, I have one place you could
:53:34. > :53:50.put it, in the County Tyrone of Taunton. I am not making this up. --
:53:51. > :53:53.County Town. I am suggesting the University might focus on things
:53:54. > :53:57.such as health training and community health because we've got
:53:58. > :54:04.the excellent Musgrove Park hospital down the road. Some courses already
:54:05. > :54:08.run for them in the local college. Similarly emphasis on nuclear or low
:54:09. > :54:16.carbon energy, as we have Hinkley Point C nearby. Or even aeronautical
:54:17. > :54:21.strengths. It is early days, but I am optimistic that we might be able
:54:22. > :54:28.to move this forward under this exciting new bill. I must add a lot
:54:29. > :54:32.of what -- add a little that I support be in there ever is to make
:54:33. > :54:36.universities particularly lecturers more accountable for what is
:54:37. > :54:41.delivered. And I have to declare an interest as I have two daughters who
:54:42. > :54:45.have been through university, and this has been a subject around the
:54:46. > :54:51.dinner table about the input from lecturers. I am not going to name
:54:52. > :54:59.any names, but sometimes they are getting as little as one or two
:55:00. > :55:05.lecturers are weak. They will pay hard earned money for this when they
:55:06. > :55:13.have to pay those students fees back. I will turn quickly to the
:55:14. > :55:19.education for younger children in the Education for All Bill. Last
:55:20. > :55:24.week, I visited a lovely primary School in the centre of Taunton,
:55:25. > :55:31.surrounded by houses, and it was a lovely visit. Not least because of
:55:32. > :55:36.the excellent garden, and to divert slightly, so much can be learned by
:55:37. > :55:43.teaching children about gardening, health, education, good for mental
:55:44. > :55:47.health, teaching them about pollination, we food comes from, I
:55:48. > :55:51.would arch the Minister to see if we could tweak this idea and get that
:55:52. > :55:58.into the new school curriculum. Praise must go to the headteacher,
:55:59. > :56:02.who was leading by example with enthusiasm teachers, but top of his
:56:03. > :56:07.agenda when speaking to me was the fairer funding for schools issue. So
:56:08. > :56:11.many people have mentioned it today and I am delighted this government
:56:12. > :56:17.will move forward that issue. We asked students in Taunton, they have
:56:18. > :56:26.?2000 less per pupil than the best funded. I absolutely applaud the
:56:27. > :56:32.fact that the government is sorting this out. Briefly to Akkad
:56:33. > :56:45.isolation, and did you know that is not in the dictionary? --
:56:46. > :56:51.academisation. That is not a real word, and it is about education!
:56:52. > :56:54.That is one primary academy in my region, working well, they are
:56:55. > :57:00.pleased that they can be in charge of their own budgets and drive their
:57:01. > :57:07.own ideas forward. And almost all schools in Taunton Deane are no
:57:08. > :57:13.academies. An injection for capital into schools would also not be
:57:14. > :57:17.amiss. Some would like to upgrade facilities, or even get a lake of
:57:18. > :57:24.paint. And sound well planned framework for education will ensure
:57:25. > :57:28.a positive and fulfilling future for students, whatever their background,
:57:29. > :57:34.with benefits to the economy. Through these two bills, the
:57:35. > :57:38.Education for All Bill and Higher Education and Research Bill, I am
:57:39. > :57:41.confident we will move forward and sort that skills gap and
:57:42. > :57:51.productivity issue out for Taunton Deane. With my final seconds I will
:57:52. > :57:52.mention one other Bill, which is the Neighbourhood Planning and
:57:53. > :57:56.Infrastructure Bill. So many people have came to me because they want
:57:57. > :58:03.more to say on local planning issues. But I am told that, through
:58:04. > :58:09.this bill, we will be able to sort out the legal framework enabling us
:58:10. > :58:15.to set out the preset oil Council bills to fund the Somerset rivers
:58:16. > :58:24.authority. We are looking forward to that being brought forward. People
:58:25. > :58:28.in Somerset would be delighted if we can move that forward. I am
:58:29. > :58:38.commending this bill and all its excellent opportunities.
:58:39. > :58:42.Thank you, Madame Deputy Speaker. It is a pleasure to speak in this
:58:43. > :58:47.debate, giving an opportunity to observe and comment on the entire
:58:48. > :58:51.speech. I was very pleased to see that I have to say about the fact
:58:52. > :58:57.the government is intending to bring in legislation to reform prison
:58:58. > :59:04.systems and also adoption and children in care. Previous Labour
:59:05. > :59:10.government spent billions of pounds in the education and health sector
:59:11. > :59:15.as well as into rehabilitation programmes, so I am pleased to see
:59:16. > :59:19.this provision is coming in, which could tackle some of the problems in
:59:20. > :59:23.our prison systems. But I am disappointed about a number of
:59:24. > :59:31.things that the speech did not include. Firstly, I will speak about
:59:32. > :59:36.some international issues, there has been systematic failure of all
:59:37. > :59:41.governments to deal with two of the oldest historical disputes arising
:59:42. > :59:45.out of the collapse of the British Empire after the Second World War,
:59:46. > :59:50.firstly the issue of Palestine and Israel. The Prime Minister accepted
:59:51. > :59:55.the fact there has been half a million illegal settlements carried
:59:56. > :00:01.out by the state of Israel and the punishment of the people of woun.
:00:02. > :00:09.This is one of the biggest wounds festering in the Middle East and
:00:10. > :00:14.needs to be solved. And Kashmir, in 1852 it was said it should be
:00:15. > :00:21.restored to free and impartial plebiscite. This was agreed in 1942.
:00:22. > :00:27.It would allow both sides to come together and deal with this issue.
:00:28. > :00:33.We should be able to bring the two parties together and help bring a
:00:34. > :00:38.resolution to this particular issue. -- in 1942, it was said. But I was
:00:39. > :00:46.concerned, and you could see this made, when I heard about the Prevent
:00:47. > :00:51.laws which will be introduced and become harsher. The weight Prevent
:00:52. > :00:57.had been rolled out over the last couple of years has proved
:00:58. > :01:03.ineffective, counter-productive and actually has traumatised many young
:01:04. > :01:11.people it was subject to. -- the way Prevent. And 90% of referrals had no
:01:12. > :01:16.follow-up action. And even with that action, it was nothing much apart
:01:17. > :01:19.from traumatising young children. The Secretary of State must have
:01:20. > :01:28.about numerous examples of where young people were taken into a
:01:29. > :01:34.system, such as a young person who talked about Palestine and were
:01:35. > :01:39.carted off, and if you hear about the example with intelligence
:01:40. > :01:45.officers and police sitting there, I young child of six, seven, eight, is
:01:46. > :01:50.completely traumatised. And even if they were not thinking about it,
:01:51. > :01:53.they could start thinking about it. I am not saying we should ignore
:01:54. > :02:02.these issues, but they could be dealt with under things like
:02:03. > :02:06.teaching dangerous about online, online bullying, child predators,
:02:07. > :02:13.but one component part could be about extremism. It is a very safe
:02:14. > :02:14.and sensible way to deal with this situation instead of criminalising
:02:15. > :02:28.people. Even Sir Peter Fahy, former Chief Constable of
:02:29. > :02:34.Greater Manchester, has said Prevent was a waste of time. I would urge
:02:35. > :02:38.the Minister here to ask to be Luke at the whole issue of how Prevent
:02:39. > :02:44.has been ruled out and dealt with in schools and universities -- look at
:02:45. > :02:49.the whole issue. We all want to be safe. When the July bombing happened
:02:50. > :02:56.in London, I was out of the country, but used to take that bus route to
:02:57. > :03:01.my chambers around the same time. I could have been directly affected.
:03:02. > :03:04.So the safety of people in this country is a reminder to me and
:03:05. > :03:08.everybody else but important the things we bring into place to deal
:03:09. > :03:12.with these issues have to be effective.
:03:13. > :03:21.There was no mention of house-building or the abolition of
:03:22. > :03:27.the current system. Note effort to get more GPs and nurses into the
:03:28. > :03:30.NHS. And also the removal of pension rights for women in their 50s, or
:03:31. > :03:36.the pensioners who live abroad and there seems to be two different sets
:03:37. > :03:41.of pensioners. One gets the link and others don't. They pay the same
:03:42. > :03:49.amount. There have been no proposals constructively on how to get them
:03:50. > :03:53.out of poverty. I also welcome the U-turn on fourth Academy station.
:03:54. > :03:59.But I still ask that this issue that everything should be a catamite by
:04:00. > :04:07.certain they also be something that...
:04:08. > :04:12.Academies, while some think that the Labour government brought in, they
:04:13. > :04:15.were brought in the schools that were struggling. There was not
:04:16. > :04:21.brought in the schools that were already successful. One such school
:04:22. > :04:27.in my constituency was the first to be an academy under the Labour
:04:28. > :04:33.government. It has children speaking six different languages. It has been
:04:34. > :04:38.a pioneer school in the use of mobile technology in its education
:04:39. > :04:44.system. Schools across the UK have come to see their practices, and
:04:45. > :04:52.countries like Sweden have had a look as well. They use interactive
:04:53. > :04:58.techniques, and these books will become free to the whole world, and
:04:59. > :05:08.there is an invitation for the acting chief executive
:05:09. > :05:18.I have this invitation from him to show the Secretary of State. And
:05:19. > :05:23.finally, I want to talk about education. I would ask about
:05:24. > :05:31.targeted funding for schools in socially deprived areas. Why do I
:05:32. > :05:39.mean by that? In terms of extra provision for maths and English.
:05:40. > :05:43.Extra money for teaching English as a foreign or second language, for
:05:44. > :05:48.mothers and parents of children who struggle with English, and it is one
:05:49. > :05:54.think that people should help their children, I think it would be good
:05:55. > :06:00.if they had constructive help. What provision to identify issues of
:06:01. > :06:05.bullying. Drug addiction and issues of gangs being formed which are
:06:06. > :06:10.bullying lung Ali young people into group Toure committing crimes. I had
:06:11. > :06:13.a lady coming into my constituency talking about her young son being
:06:14. > :06:18.pushed by gangs into criminal activity. That is not an isolated
:06:19. > :06:24.incident. We need more targeted resources. When someone gets into
:06:25. > :06:29.trouble, they try to deal with it. We are reactive, but we need more
:06:30. > :06:31.proactive policies in place, so we can identify and look at the
:06:32. > :06:36.concerns and the challenges and dangers. And finally, and this is
:06:37. > :06:41.nothing to do with education, this is a plea to the Chancellor. Can I
:06:42. > :06:47.have a pot of money for Bolton South East so I can repair the roads that
:06:48. > :06:53.have lots of pot holes in them, and I can send a costing of that to the
:06:54. > :07:00.Chancellor. It is a pleasure to be able to 2-part -- take part in this
:07:01. > :07:02.speech. There was much in the programme of government that I would
:07:03. > :07:09.like to welcome, and many measures that would benefit Romsey and
:07:10. > :07:13.Southampton North. It is a pleasure to follow the lady for Bolton South
:07:14. > :07:17.East, and we would agree on several measures to do with prison reform,
:07:18. > :07:21.but I would like to congratulate her, like me, for keeping of the
:07:22. > :07:28.subject of the European referendum. I am certainly going to focus on
:07:29. > :07:32.education, training and skills, but it is important to put that in a
:07:33. > :07:37.perspective of all types of education and training, and I worry
:07:38. > :07:41.sometimes that we concentrate too narrowly on higher education and
:07:42. > :07:46.those young people who are following a path to university, and we have to
:07:47. > :07:49.be confident that education is something that can happen at any age
:07:50. > :07:53.and at any place. We should celebrate the teenager today might
:07:54. > :07:58.have seven different careers in their lifetime, and each one of
:07:59. > :08:02.those will require learning, change and the ability to adapt, and they
:08:03. > :08:06.are expensive life skills that are introduced at school but carry on
:08:07. > :08:10.throughout our lives. I was pleased to hear the Minister say that is
:08:11. > :08:17.never too late to learn, and of course, in this place, everyone can
:08:18. > :08:25.say that every day. One of my constituents, he came to my surgery
:08:26. > :08:36.recently and he was a champion of education. Variously, people have to
:08:37. > :08:39.update to take in new technology, promote learning, language schools.
:08:40. > :08:43.The list can go on and on. Very little attention is given to this
:08:44. > :08:48.aspect of learning, and there is too little understanding. But when it is
:08:49. > :08:54.a job seeker undergoing retraining, or someone using the Internet, or a
:08:55. > :08:57.prisoner losing Ali learning new skills on the path to
:08:58. > :08:59.rehabilitation, it is all part of the learning journey. I want to
:09:00. > :09:21.focus on the last aspect. And help them on the path back to
:09:22. > :09:25.being part of society. He has worked with several prison governors,
:09:26. > :09:31.specifically in Winchester, where David Rogers was one of the early
:09:32. > :09:35.pilot champions of the work care after combat does. That is a sort of
:09:36. > :09:42.scheme that when it is combined with education can have a real life
:09:43. > :09:51.transforming impact. Their success rate is quite phenomenal, and I
:09:52. > :10:04.commend it. That is all part of training and
:10:05. > :10:12.education, to make sure that they form a seductive part of the
:10:13. > :10:16.workforce. The Justice Secretary increased work opportunities for
:10:17. > :10:20.those leaving prison, combine with education opportunities, and it will
:10:21. > :10:22.make sure that former prisoners are better equipped for employment
:10:23. > :10:33.opportunities when they are released. 46% of people entering
:10:34. > :10:40.prison have literary skills is no better than an 11-year-old child. We
:10:41. > :10:46.need to improve their chances. I am pleased that my friend is in her
:10:47. > :10:50.place today and has heeded the questions expressed her about forced
:10:51. > :10:55.a cam and urbanisation. Especially in places like Hampshire, where the
:10:56. > :10:58.local authority provides a great service, and it is recognised and
:10:59. > :11:03.appreciated by parents and governors alike. She will know that Romsey's
:11:04. > :11:07.headteachers describe the education White Paper as one of the best she
:11:08. > :11:15.had ever read. I support academies, and the highest scores in my
:11:16. > :11:17.constituency are academies. They help fulfil potential, they
:11:18. > :11:25.collaborate with local businesses, they encourage all sorts of
:11:26. > :11:32.activities, but it does not mean that this goes in my constituency
:11:33. > :11:38.that are not academies do not do the same. I appreciate them given more
:11:39. > :11:43.time. I welcome the freedom about the school day. I know many private
:11:44. > :11:50.schools have a longer day than the school sector, and they use it for
:11:51. > :11:55.all sorts of things, the sorts of enrichment activities that give
:11:56. > :12:01.their pupils an advantage on the UCAS applications. But when you hit
:12:02. > :12:07.the head of Mountbatten School speak, she was always challenging
:12:08. > :12:10.her school to provide a challenge for her pupils. The longer day
:12:11. > :12:16.provides more chances and is part of that picture. Finally, I want to
:12:17. > :12:19.talk about the other end of the age spectrum, and if we are talking
:12:20. > :12:24.about education for all, it is important that we look at the life
:12:25. > :12:29.chances of our preschoolers. I had the pleasure couple weeks ago of
:12:30. > :12:34.fitting a preschool that was a typical, village preschool with a
:12:35. > :12:40.professional staff, but effectively run by dedicated volunteers. We all
:12:41. > :12:43.know that the first 1000 days after conception of the most important in
:12:44. > :12:47.HR's life. We must be looking at the early years provision -- in a
:12:48. > :12:59.Child's life. It operates five days a week, and
:13:00. > :13:04.requires setup and take-down. They are better off than the preschoolers
:13:05. > :13:07.that operate out of village schools, and have that burden every single
:13:08. > :13:12.day. They have challenges finding staff, especially when many other
:13:13. > :13:16.villages are not accessible by public transport, and finding
:13:17. > :13:21.volunteer chairman and women and treasurers, and in being able to
:13:22. > :13:27.offer the special -- Flex ability to meet the needs of children and
:13:28. > :13:30.parents and Ofsted. I welcome the extension of free childcare, I'd
:13:31. > :13:33.think it is a good thing for parents looking to return to work. It is
:13:34. > :13:44.good for children to be in a steamy related environment, and -- in a
:13:45. > :13:51.stimulating environment. At 15 hours a week, the preschool are coping. At
:13:52. > :13:56.30 hours a week with the current funding, they will struggle. Police
:13:57. > :13:59.preschoolers have been the last flood of communities for
:14:00. > :14:04.generations. I would urge my friend to make sure that 30 hours is
:14:05. > :14:09.sustainable, not just in large-scale Nazaries, but in small, rural
:14:10. > :14:12.locations. With a commitment to educational excellence everywhere,
:14:13. > :14:17.to make sure that rural provision, where we are nurturing the life
:14:18. > :14:26.chances of the next generation in some of the most incredible
:14:27. > :14:30.environment is looked after. It is a pleasure to take part in this debate
:14:31. > :14:34.on the Queens speech, and also to follow the honourable member for
:14:35. > :14:37.Romsey and Southampton North, and I do agree with her about the
:14:38. > :14:43.importance of early years education. She made a very important point just
:14:44. > :14:47.then. This 's speech was a major -- there was a major omission.
:14:48. > :14:53.Following the government's U-turn on Forster can Asian, we have a build
:14:54. > :15:01.to lay foundations for educational acceptance in all schools, whatever
:15:02. > :15:07.that may mean. We had the establishment of new universities,
:15:08. > :15:14.and promoting choice and competition across the higher education sector.
:15:15. > :15:20.Yes, following the failed tuition fee experiment, which was never
:15:21. > :15:24.intended to mean that all universities which is the full
:15:25. > :15:30.?9,000, now they will have the freedom to charge even more, making
:15:31. > :15:36.university education more to young people disadvantaged backgrounds.
:15:37. > :15:40.Will she not recognise that children from disadvantaged backgrounds are
:15:41. > :15:43.having much greater opportunities in England and Wales than they are in
:15:44. > :15:50.Scotland where the fee system means that it is a subsidy for the
:15:51. > :15:54.middle-class and not poorer? That is certainly not what is going on in my
:15:55. > :16:00.constituency, which I will go further on to elaborate. But I would
:16:01. > :16:04.like to make the point that the number part time students and mature
:16:05. > :16:11.students going to university has plummeted since the Inca meditation
:16:12. > :16:17.of tuition fees. I think you could giving way. I can't let the comment
:16:18. > :16:21.pass about Scotland. It is true, if we look at direct routes into
:16:22. > :16:27.University, Scotland is slightly lower numbers going from
:16:28. > :16:31.disadvantaged backgrounds. If we look at more interesting routes into
:16:32. > :16:39.University, Scotland is doing extremely well with people from
:16:40. > :16:43.disadvantaged backgrounds. I am going to go on to talk about further
:16:44. > :16:49.education, which is a key part by speech. I would like to point out
:16:50. > :16:55.the minister is no longer here, but we are not opposed to new
:16:56. > :17:01.universities, despite the Minister's assumption, and for his information,
:17:02. > :17:07.it was the Tory press that dubbed University College London Cockney
:17:08. > :17:16.College. Not anyone from the Labour benches. What was missing from this
:17:17. > :17:22.Queen's speech was the link between further education. It provides a
:17:23. > :17:28.vital service to young people, opportunities, skills, training and
:17:29. > :17:38.the ability to use FB as a stepping stone to higher education. --
:17:39. > :17:44.further education. It has its own particular issues, none of which was
:17:45. > :17:49.given in the Queens speech. Lack of new rescue -- numeracy skills is a
:17:50. > :17:53.massive issue in Rochdale, and some students require an extra year in
:17:54. > :17:59.order to improve on English and maths. Yet funding reduces once the
:18:00. > :18:04.learner hits 18 with no allowance made for the catch up year.
:18:05. > :18:10.Rochdale was one of the most affected by the Kirk to Education
:18:11. > :18:18.Maintenance Allowance and by reduced payments to disabled learners. -- by
:18:19. > :18:26.the cut. I should declare an interest that my partner used to
:18:27. > :18:29.teach at that college. When EMA was scrapped, my partner has students
:18:30. > :18:33.coming to see him that, although they were enjoying the course and
:18:34. > :18:40.its opportunities, we could not afford to attend college following
:18:41. > :18:44.the scrapping of EMA, because they could not -- because without it they
:18:45. > :18:49.could not afford bus fare to college. What a lamentable fears,
:18:50. > :18:57.the night education because of the course of a bus fare. -- what a
:18:58. > :19:02.mentor Bill situation, students denied education because of the cost
:19:03. > :19:08.of a bus there. Some students have to travel 30-40 miles to access
:19:09. > :19:13.college courses. The Greater Manchester area review is causing
:19:14. > :19:18.great concern within the Department for Education because of ongoing
:19:19. > :19:23.delays. With the cheer of the steering group, the Chief Executive
:19:24. > :19:26.of Tory Trafford Council, warning that the process would lead to
:19:27. > :19:36.fragmentation of the colleges in Greater Manchester. Wash chair.
:19:37. > :19:44.Rochdale also has lower numbers of people going to university. Jewish
:19:45. > :19:47.and fees has served as a massive deterrent. Students in England leave
:19:48. > :19:53.university with more debt than anywhere else in the English
:19:54. > :20:00.speaking world. -- tuition fees. Americans run up 50% of the dead,
:20:01. > :20:06.Canadians one third of it. When maintenance grants were abolished
:20:07. > :20:15.the Buddhist students will end up earning over half of an average
:20:16. > :20:21.price for a terraced House. -- the poorest students. Well of parents
:20:22. > :20:27.who can afford to pay private school fees will simply see the cost of
:20:28. > :20:29.university education as a continuation of the inequality,
:20:30. > :20:33.their children will continue claiming up the ladder with no
:20:34. > :20:38.trouble. Whilst we talk about student debt I would like to mention
:20:39. > :20:43.a proposal in the BBC White Paper to close the so-called Player loophole,
:20:44. > :20:51.which will force students living away from home, with no television
:20:52. > :20:56.but access online BBC content, to spend yet more money in purchasing a
:20:57. > :21:01.yearly TV licence, as if students were not in enough debt. One
:21:02. > :21:07.petition against this proposal, started by students at Loughborough
:21:08. > :21:17.University, has reached a staggering 16,847 signatures. Please consider
:21:18. > :21:21.the situation students are in. So far, my questions about this have
:21:22. > :21:26.been evaded. But this petition shows the strength of feeling amongst
:21:27. > :21:30.students and their families and I hope the Culture Secretary will
:21:31. > :21:35.agree to be bound by it. Returning to the college I talked about, it
:21:36. > :21:39.provides many courses to help students who aspire to go to
:21:40. > :21:43.university. But whilst they are faced with Everton minding debt
:21:44. > :21:48.there will be no answer to social mobility problems in my
:21:49. > :21:54.constituency. The formation of new universities is not the solution.
:21:55. > :21:58.The government was FE assessments show was the number of FE colleges
:21:59. > :22:02.applying for higher education will be lower than present. Further
:22:03. > :22:06.education is sandwiched in the middle of schools and higher
:22:07. > :22:12.education with stages four and five massively underfunded. But the
:22:13. > :22:17.college I spoke about, and I am sure many other FE colleges like it,
:22:18. > :22:25.continuous to succeed against all the odds. We have 4000 people doing
:22:26. > :22:35.vocational courses or A-levels who would previously have travelled
:22:36. > :22:41.outside the borough. And we have more NEETs than in a budding
:22:42. > :22:45.boroughs. Demand for more social care is increasing and the colleges
:22:46. > :22:50.responding. But that is increasing challenge across the FE sector in
:22:51. > :22:55.attracting teachers, especially in mathematics. It is time this
:22:56. > :23:00.government recognised the essential role of the FE sector and took
:23:01. > :23:05.action to address gaps in funding and problems of recruiting and
:23:06. > :23:08.retailing good-quality teachers to achieve their stated aim of
:23:09. > :23:17.educational excellence for all, and that includes my constituents in
:23:18. > :23:24.Heywood and Middleton. It is a pleasure to follow the
:23:25. > :23:28.honourable member for Heywood and Middleton and for Romsey, both great
:23:29. > :23:34.champions for their constituents. It is a privilege to speak in this
:23:35. > :23:39.debate. Many members have spoken passionately about education, skills
:23:40. > :23:44.and training, and it is vital that as a nation we get these elements
:23:45. > :23:51.right, because if we want to build up a cohort of fellow citizens ready
:23:52. > :23:55.to face the world of work at 18, 22, but also later in their life, to be
:23:56. > :24:02.lifelong learners, we need to get this right. Because the workforce is
:24:03. > :24:07.changing and the economy is changing in a profound and long-lasting way.
:24:08. > :24:10.I must be attributed to the Federation of Small Businesses on
:24:11. > :24:16.its excellent report, going it alone, moving on up, supporting
:24:17. > :24:24.self-employment in the UK, and many of the statistics I will use will be
:24:25. > :24:32.from that. Today, 50% of the workforce is self-employed, compared
:24:33. > :24:36.with 8% in 1980. To support this strong and growing economy, we as
:24:37. > :24:44.legislators need to be as nimble as these entrepreneur, these 15% off
:24:45. > :24:51.constituents. -- 15% of the workforce. There was always a
:24:52. > :25:03.balance between the -- between red tape and lastly fair. --
:25:04. > :25:07.lassez-faire. I have great hopes for the bill but also suggestions,
:25:08. > :25:13.particularly about the bills. I will begin speaking on the debt markets
:25:14. > :25:22.Bill. Competition law is always one step behind the market. -- Better
:25:23. > :25:30.Markets Bill. I speak partly as having experience in law department.
:25:31. > :25:35.There are changing markets, I will, the faster switching principle for
:25:36. > :25:40.energy supply, as I have and other members will have done. I welcome
:25:41. > :25:47.clarification for roles for economic regulators. We are dealing with a
:25:48. > :25:51.debt businesses, people with lawyers, if we want to protect
:25:52. > :25:56.consumers we need strong measures in place. -- with adept businesses. I
:25:57. > :26:03.want to speak about one particular market which is not sexy but vital,
:26:04. > :26:08.the water market. Last summer, my constituents along with another
:26:09. > :26:13.300,000 households in Lancashire, had no drinkable water for one
:26:14. > :26:18.month. The contamination of Cryptosporidium in our water had a
:26:19. > :26:22.massive effect on consumers and particularly small businesses who
:26:23. > :26:27.were in the catering industry. I know my friend for Blackpool North
:26:28. > :26:32.spoke about this, as he has many cafes and restaurants. It shows the
:26:33. > :26:40.monopolised nature of the water market. I am happy that from April
:26:41. > :26:48.20 bid will be a non-high school retail water and waste water market
:26:49. > :26:53.opening. -- that from April 2016. After that I'd break last year,
:26:54. > :26:57.there was difficulty for many small businesses in accessing
:26:58. > :27:04.compensation. It was not as simple as for domestic consumers. There has
:27:05. > :27:10.been expression that is part of the remake in this new water market is
:27:11. > :27:16.ensuring it operates effectively, and there have been representations
:27:17. > :27:21.to Defra that guaranteed service standards apply to all households.
:27:22. > :27:26.But there are no business ministers on the front bench at the moment,
:27:27. > :27:30.but I am sure my honourable friend will communicate, if anyone from
:27:31. > :27:37.business has spoken, if they have spoken to Defra and had discussions
:27:38. > :27:44.about this, and whether this can be rolled into the Better Markets Bill.
:27:45. > :27:50.And from sewage to savings and pensions. National statistics on
:27:51. > :27:57.savings are both full compared to EU neighbours. The French save about
:27:58. > :28:04.twice as much as we do. -- -- are woeful. I will give way. Would you
:28:05. > :28:08.agree with me that it is important financial education is taught in
:28:09. > :28:14.school, in terms of savings but also financial management, if we are to
:28:15. > :28:21.address the issues you are raising? Thank you for your intervention, and
:28:22. > :28:29.I agree wholeheartedly. 21 million people in this country don't even
:28:30. > :28:34.have ?500 of savings and, as the honourable lady says, part of this
:28:35. > :28:39.is financial education. But I welcome the lifetime savings
:28:40. > :28:43.built, a flexible product so that young people can see for a home and
:28:44. > :28:52.their retirement. I also welcomed the increase in the ISA limit. But
:28:53. > :28:55.also I would like to look at statistics for self-employed, which
:28:56. > :29:02.are even worse than the nation as a whole. Only 31% of respondents to a
:29:03. > :29:07.survey have said they are saving into a pension, compared to 59% of
:29:08. > :29:12.people who are employed. The remaining respondents intend to rely
:29:13. > :29:18.on their business, existing savings, and about 15% had no plan at all or
:29:19. > :29:26.savings. A lifetime ISA is welcome, but I would ask the Minister if
:29:27. > :29:31.there are any plans to adapt it to suit it for the self-employed. That
:29:32. > :29:36.is the age restriction which limits it to people under 40 and we are
:29:37. > :29:44.seeing more evidence more of the self-employed are aged 45 or over. I
:29:45. > :29:48.would hope that the department would look at ways of encouraging and
:29:49. > :29:52.normalising the idea of savings for the self-employed because they do
:29:53. > :29:57.not get EC nudges that auto enrolment has for people that are
:29:58. > :30:08.applied at the moment. -- they do not get the same nudges. I will not
:30:09. > :30:13.go over again the people who have no savings are pension plan. But we
:30:14. > :30:17.need to consider the needs of the self-employed and I know the Work
:30:18. > :30:24.and Pensions Committee have look at this, but mainly in relation to
:30:25. > :30:28.NEST, which we have signed up to for our employees. It is very good but
:30:29. > :30:33.needs a solution for the self-employed on it. In an ideal
:30:34. > :30:38.world, the self-employed will go on to be micro-employers or even large
:30:39. > :30:42.employers, and will set up their own pension fund. There needs to be
:30:43. > :30:48.adequately medication with micro businesses about obligations under
:30:49. > :30:53.auto enrolment. Those can be burdensome. And there needs to be
:30:54. > :30:59.the bus regulation to ensure such funds give good returns once set up
:31:00. > :31:04.and adequately protected. -- there needs to be robust regulation. We
:31:05. > :31:08.need to adapt to changing workforces and I look forward to seeing the
:31:09. > :31:17.detail as these bills progressed through this place.
:31:18. > :31:22.Thank you, Mr Speaker, the Prime Minister told the House the heart of
:31:23. > :31:27.the Queen's Speech at bold reforms to remove barriers for opportunity
:31:28. > :31:32.for young people, so let's see if his rhetoric matches reality. Today
:31:33. > :31:38.nearly 4 million children grow up in poverty, half a million in London,
:31:39. > :31:43.and in my constituency 42% of children live in poverty, the
:31:44. > :31:47.highest rate in the country. Social mobility is in reverse with young
:31:48. > :31:51.people suffering from what the human rights commission are the worst
:31:52. > :31:57.economic prospects for several generations. And thousands of young
:31:58. > :32:01.people remain not in education, employment or training. It is a
:32:02. > :32:06.shocking reality considering the UK is the fifth richest country in the
:32:07. > :32:11.world. Fighting inequality is not just about social justice but in
:32:12. > :32:16.economic interests. If we look at the government record over the last
:32:17. > :32:21.six years, they have cut work experience and entitlements and
:32:22. > :32:27.independent careers guidance and advice, cut further education
:32:28. > :32:34.budgets by 24% since 2010. And this has devastated the lives of many
:32:35. > :32:39.people, as noted earlier. A higher concentration of people in further
:32:40. > :32:44.education are from working class and ethnic minority backgrounds, it has
:32:45. > :32:49.hit London FE students, ethnic minority students, particularly hard
:32:50. > :32:54.because of the disproportionate concentration of those people in FE.
:32:55. > :33:00.I asked the Minister to look at the impact, given his monitoring and
:33:01. > :33:04.transparency work, too remote and tackle inequality, he should look at
:33:05. > :33:09.the impact of funding on the FE sector. It has meant many further
:33:10. > :33:13.education colleges have had to shrink courses and numbers,
:33:14. > :33:14.including Tower Hamlets College, which many of my constituents
:33:15. > :33:24.attend. The Government has tripled
:33:25. > :33:30.university fees. The minister will have heard the devastating impact
:33:31. > :33:37.that has had over the years across the country to some of the poorest
:33:38. > :33:40.students. Student nursery bursaries have been slashed, maintenance
:33:41. > :33:46.grants for poorer university students. The Queen's Speech is
:33:47. > :33:51.focused on life chances and will prove meaningless without a parallel
:33:52. > :33:55.attempt to eradicate child poverty. Tired and hungry children can't
:33:56. > :33:59.learn effectively and it is shocking that millions of children come from
:34:00. > :34:05.families who rely on food banks. Poverty is not inevitable and this
:34:06. > :34:09.Government has the tools to fix that problem if there is the will. The
:34:10. > :34:14.last Labour Government cut child poverty by almost a million to the
:34:15. > :34:19.lowest levels since the 1980s yet increases over the last six years
:34:20. > :34:23.under this Government has done much of this progress. I call on the
:34:24. > :34:30.Minister and the Secretary of State to continue to pay attention to this
:34:31. > :34:33.very important issue for it will affect educational attainment and
:34:34. > :34:42.the achievements of young people. Let us look at the education Bill.
:34:43. > :34:50.My right honourable friends have mentioned earlier that it is being
:34:51. > :34:57.introduced in a context where the real term cuts are about 8% of
:34:58. > :35:02.funding per pupil by 2020. This is despite the Conservative Party's
:35:03. > :35:11.commitments in the manifesto that funding won't be cut for schools and
:35:12. > :35:19.children. This is a betrayal of that manifesto commitment. Last year more
:35:20. > :35:24.teachers quit than actually entered the profession. Almost 50,000 of
:35:25. > :35:30.teachers quit. The highest figure since records began and applications
:35:31. > :35:36.to teach are also falling in every region and down in key subjects such
:35:37. > :35:39.as English, maths and ICT. London schools face unique challenges. They
:35:40. > :35:44.have some of the highest levels of inequality as well as child poverty
:35:45. > :35:48.in the country. School budgets and classrooms are at breaking point
:35:49. > :35:56.with one in five London secondary schools now fall or overcrowded. Yet
:35:57. > :35:59.London shows that it is possible to create outstanding urban schools in
:36:00. > :36:05.demanding circumstances. Thanks to the work of the last Labour
:36:06. > :36:09.Government, nine out of ten schools in London are now good or
:36:10. > :36:13.outstanding. This is a huge achievement and it took a generation
:36:14. > :36:18.to achieve. The crew and changes to the funding formula put that
:36:19. > :36:22.achievement at risk. I ask the Minister to look carefully at the
:36:23. > :36:26.funding formula and make sure that the achievements that have been
:36:27. > :36:34.made, we don't go back on those. London schools will lose ?240
:36:35. > :36:37.million a year in these current proposals. Also schools in the
:36:38. > :36:44.Midlands and North of England will be hit hard by these changes. We
:36:45. > :36:51.need to look at the children in those schools and make sure fairness
:36:52. > :36:54.means fairness. On academies, it is wrong-headed that the Government is
:36:55. > :37:02.obsessed with structures rather than attainment. The climb-down is
:37:03. > :37:07.welcomed but it is clear from what was said earlier by the Minister
:37:08. > :37:12.that the attempt to a cat eyes all schools is still there and it is
:37:13. > :37:18.just through a different route. It is likely to cause ?1 billion to
:37:19. > :37:22.carry out. That is money that could be tackling underachievement rather
:37:23. > :37:25.than obsessing with structure. Where there is a problem, where there is a
:37:26. > :37:31.need for innovation, that should happen but it shouldn't be a
:37:32. > :37:38.wasteful process. I give way. Does the honourable member greet with the
:37:39. > :37:43.same happiness that I do come about 1 million more children are going to
:37:44. > :37:53.good or outstanding schools since 2010? Any improvements made to
:37:54. > :38:00.attainment is welcome but my point is in relation here to London where
:38:01. > :38:03.huge amounts of work was done to improve schools. When I was at
:38:04. > :38:10.school in the East End of London in the 80s and 90s, most schools
:38:11. > :38:15.achieve less than 20% GCSEs or more. It took over a decade to transform
:38:16. > :38:18.schools, not just in Tower Hamlets. In Tower Hamlets we only have four
:38:19. > :38:24.academies and it shows there are different models of improvement and
:38:25. > :38:26.I call on the Secretary of State to look at achievements and how that
:38:27. > :38:32.has been done through different approaches including collaboration,
:38:33. > :38:37.investment in teacher quality and standards as well as training and
:38:38. > :38:41.leadership. She will know very well that the model in Tower Hamlets and
:38:42. > :38:45.across London is recognised around the world and I hope that the new
:38:46. > :38:55.funding formula won't put that at risk. I will give way. I would just
:38:56. > :39:06.like to make the point, however, that within London you have seen a
:39:07. > :39:17.26% uplift in your... Sorry, within London schools. You have seen a 26%
:39:18. > :39:23.lift. One has seen a 26% lift. In rural schools we have seen a 9%
:39:24. > :39:28.rise. It is only right and proper that the funding basis is addressed.
:39:29. > :39:33.My point is not about whether schools in need of support in rural
:39:34. > :39:39.areas and Mary 's rural poverty also, do not get support. We don't
:39:40. > :39:43.set schools and areas up against each other. There is a division that
:39:44. > :39:47.the Government looks at where we need to target resources to improve
:39:48. > :39:51.schools and we don't turn regions against each other. We don't turn
:39:52. > :39:56.schools against each other. That is one of the major risks and that is
:39:57. > :39:59.being reflected in this debate. We need to look at improving standards
:40:00. > :40:03.across the country without doing damage to the achievements of
:40:04. > :40:14.schools in London. There are still 40 percentage of school kids were we
:40:15. > :40:19.need to raise their attainment. I want to point to the fact that the
:40:20. > :40:23.Severn Trent unearthed the fact that our young people leave university
:40:24. > :40:25.with the highest levels of debt in the English speaking world. --
:40:26. > :40:38.Severn Trent. He has tripled university fees to
:40:39. > :40:48.9000, scrapped maintenance allowance and wants to lift the fees cap even
:40:49. > :40:53.higher. That is going to put into reverse some of the achievements
:40:54. > :40:57.that have been made in the past but also it saddles poorer students with
:40:58. > :41:02.huge amounts of debt. We all know that if you come from asset rich
:41:03. > :41:07.families, you are more likely to take risks, more likely to be secure
:41:08. > :41:11.when you enter the labour market and outcomes in the labour markets for
:41:12. > :41:17.graduates are different according to social class and ethnic background.
:41:18. > :41:21.Saddling poorer students with debt as real consequences in terms of
:41:22. > :41:25.what they go on to do. I ask the Minister to look carefully at
:41:26. > :41:30.outcomes and the data he is collecting will only be useful if he
:41:31. > :41:35.matches that with action to tackle the fact that there are inequalities
:41:36. > :41:44.that are being built in because of students being left in debt. The
:41:45. > :41:51.Government ignored the evidence from -- showing the maintenance grants
:41:52. > :41:56.lead to 4% increase in participation. While increasing
:41:57. > :41:59.participation cited by the Government and Minister, when that
:42:00. > :42:03.is happening that is welcome but I asked him to look at how it can be
:42:04. > :42:09.achieved further and to look at this area. On the point about
:42:10. > :42:13.apprenticeships, I welcome the target of 3 million apprenticeships.
:42:14. > :42:21.The question is about quality and it has been raised by a number of
:42:22. > :42:26.honourable friends and I appeal to the Minister to look carefully at
:42:27. > :42:29.how we can make this work well by focusing on quality because it is
:42:30. > :42:37.still the case that many young people, a sizeable number of them
:42:38. > :42:41.are doing courses at the level of two and three and where they have
:42:42. > :42:47.parallel qualifications. We need to make sure they progress and
:42:48. > :42:53.apprenticeships are a genuine alternative. I would like to say
:42:54. > :42:58.what a pleasure it is to follow the honourable member for Bethnal Green
:42:59. > :43:02.and Bow. I would like to welcome the programme on life chances of heart
:43:03. > :43:06.clean not only the education skills and training we are speaking about
:43:07. > :43:11.but the Internet -- interconnectivity between the other
:43:12. > :43:18.bills as well. In proposing her most gracious speech, bringing up
:43:19. > :43:23.children is an inexact science with a definite beginning but no definite
:43:24. > :43:26.and. There is no guarantee of success however it might be measured
:43:27. > :43:32.and there most certainly isn't a handbook. My children have attended
:43:33. > :43:35.their state schools and are now other universities acquiring this
:43:36. > :43:38.debt and it is the aspiration for a better life that I hope we as
:43:39. > :43:44.parents have instilled in them and that is why I believe that life
:43:45. > :43:47.chances also very important. However, we have an excellent
:43:48. > :43:50.education system in this country helping parents and carers through
:43:51. > :43:54.the minefield that we hope will level the playing field for all our
:43:55. > :44:02.children and ensure that all child reaches their potential. 30 hours
:44:03. > :44:10.free childcare with the caveats out line. 1.3 million children taught
:44:11. > :44:17.and measures to drive aspirations and skills. This is a coherent
:44:18. > :44:22.lifetime learning package and much more than I see being put before us
:44:23. > :44:29.from members of the opposition who I know have still got space to come
:44:30. > :44:33.forward with their bright ideas. As we noted that one of the most
:44:34. > :44:36.important things we have an education is good quality feedback.
:44:37. > :44:49.That might be something to take on board. The early years education is
:44:50. > :45:00.vital in ensuring readiness for school.
:45:01. > :45:09.There is excellent early years education in towns and rural areas.
:45:10. > :45:13.Despite the best efforts of early years teachers, it is estimated up
:45:14. > :45:25.to 25% of our children starting a shepherd and are still in nappies.
:45:26. > :45:32.I would urge bold plans in this area using speech therapists to be able
:45:33. > :45:39.to support parents in their parenting as their children grow. I
:45:40. > :45:46.welcome the news that fairer funding formula will be addressed. It is
:45:47. > :45:52.inherited and I apologise if the honourable member for what I was
:45:53. > :45:58.creating an adversarial term a mess. From my point of view, my children
:45:59. > :46:03.receive ?260 less than the national average which is considerably less
:46:04. > :46:09.than children in London have received for many years. It is
:46:10. > :46:14.important that this anomaly is addressed. The new policy must allow
:46:15. > :46:21.for the fact that schools in largely rural constituencies such as mine
:46:22. > :46:25.will struggle on several levels. Sparsity is one example. I don't
:46:26. > :46:29.believe things are insurmountable but they need acknowledging and I
:46:30. > :46:34.thank the Secretary of State for being in listening mode recently
:46:35. > :46:38.when approached over the -- over this and I hope we can move forward
:46:39. > :46:43.in providing the right solution for all children. The children in rural
:46:44. > :46:46.areas suffer from the rural transport systems that mean the
:46:47. > :46:49.children who attain these schools are isolated from choices given to
:46:50. > :46:53.their urban dwelling peers. There was loss -- less opportunity for
:46:54. > :46:57.after-school clubs which are to be welcomed if there is just a solitary
:46:58. > :47:01.bus service that leaves five minutes after the school AMs. In rural
:47:02. > :47:06.schools, transport will become an issue that we have to consider
:47:07. > :47:16.carefully that will fit into the overall plan. I ask the minister if
:47:17. > :47:19.they will do a rural test when we ask questions about education to
:47:20. > :47:24.ensure schools can offer the same to their students whether they are in
:47:25. > :47:28.rural or urban and make sure they are well served. As our children are
:47:29. > :47:33.perceived with their education, we must value their different skills
:47:34. > :47:37.and abilities that they display and nurture. While supporting the rise
:47:38. > :47:41.in standards, we need to keep the ability to problem solving our
:47:42. > :47:44.educational system, a visit to a high-tech company in my
:47:45. > :47:51.constituency, we spoke about need for people to use intuition and
:47:52. > :47:59.other such elements within their learning and for it not to be always
:48:00. > :48:04.about ticking boxes. The honourable members both about a joined up
:48:05. > :48:10.strategy with regard to science and that is a huge importance. My four
:48:11. > :48:12.daughters remind me that academic excellence is to be applauded but we
:48:13. > :48:46.must cherish practical skills. Subtitles will resume at Wednesday
:48:47. > :48:52.in Parliament at 11pm.