28/06/2016

:00:00. > :00:00.2014. The National Farmers' Union in Scotland says for every ?1 of EU

:00:00. > :00:09.payments to Scotland, that puts ?4 million into the river and dconomy.

:00:10. > :00:17.European structural funds in Scotland from 2014, to 2020 is worth

:00:18. > :00:24.929 million euros. Pain frol everything from roads to rural

:00:25. > :00:29.communities. Supporting bro`dband, farm diversification. Money that

:00:30. > :00:34.comes Ju Reti from Europe as I said. Time and time again, the report from

:00:35. > :00:37.the last Europe committee pointed out it was not clear that the block

:00:38. > :00:41.grant would be adjusted to compensate for the loss of the

:00:42. > :00:45.funds. That is before you consider the losses incurred from losing

:00:46. > :00:50.access to the European markdt, or our loss of European citizenship.

:00:51. > :00:56.More fundamentally the kind of country we wish to live in. The kind

:00:57. > :01:00.of country that we want to live in, open, welcoming to people from

:01:01. > :01:04.across Europe and other countries, and quite the opposite of the

:01:05. > :01:07.terrible racism that others have mentioned we saw character rising

:01:08. > :01:13.the league campaign. While I do not speak as the new

:01:14. > :01:33.convener of the Parliament 's offer from thd First

:01:34. > :01:36.Minister to meet the committee at the first opportunity. The

:01:37. > :01:45.government are now exploring how we can work with others, including that

:01:46. > :01:47.you keep and EU is -- UK and EU institutions to explore how Scotland

:01:48. > :01:54.can stay within the EU, even if other parts of the UK, notably

:01:55. > :01:59.England, leaves. Senior polhtical figures in Europe have responded

:02:00. > :02:05.warmly. I was very pleased to hear some of the comments from the debate

:02:06. > :02:08.in the Irish Parliament yesterday, praising Scotland as an anchent

:02:09. > :02:14.European nation, one with its own jurisdiction and one that w`s a very

:02:15. > :02:19.strong member and supporter of the European ideal. I was pleasdd to

:02:20. > :02:24.hear Scotland 's farming Cabinet Secretary Fergus Ewing say that his

:02:25. > :02:29.EU counterparts yesterday h`d been very positive and sympathethc

:02:30. > :02:32.towards the predicament in which Scotland finds itself. It is not

:02:33. > :02:36.impossible that such a compromise could be reached. We have hdard

:02:37. > :02:42.about the Denmark and Greenland situation in the past. And Duropean

:02:43. > :02:47.leaders are pragmatic in circumstances when demanded, for

:02:48. > :02:51.example they rapidly absorbdd East Germany into the community `fter the

:02:52. > :02:57.bell and wall fell and the committee of experts clearly had a vital role

:02:58. > :03:01.to play here, but we also nded to be practical. It is also likelx that

:03:02. > :03:06.such an arrangement may prove impossible to negotiate. And I noted

:03:07. > :03:09.that Sir David Edwards, who is going to be a member of the standhng

:03:10. > :03:14.committee, had expressed scdpticism about achieving this comprolise I

:03:15. > :03:17.know that he's linked to be a witness to the committee on

:03:18. > :03:23.Thursday. I very look forward to hearing what he has to say. I am

:03:24. > :03:27.concerned about the chances of negotiating a compromise because

:03:28. > :03:30.much of it will require the cooperation of a Westminster

:03:31. > :03:33.government which may soon bd in the grip of leadership even mord

:03:34. > :03:46.right-wing than those that we currently in Dewar. -- endure. Once

:03:47. > :03:50.the UK triggers the Brexit process through section 50, it has just two

:03:51. > :03:55.years to do a deal, and unldss the Council of Europe agrees to extend

:03:56. > :03:59.the time which appears on lhkely given recent statements comhng out

:04:00. > :04:03.of the EU, then a guillotind will fall under section 50 and the UK

:04:04. > :04:06.will be cut off with whatevdr deal the EU decides to give it, `nd we

:04:07. > :04:14.cannot have Scotland similarly marooned. If independence is then

:04:15. > :04:18.the only option remaining then we have to have that independence

:04:19. > :04:25.referendum before the guillotine falls, because if we vote yds, if we

:04:26. > :04:27.have a referendum after, after the guillotine falls, and we vote yes,

:04:28. > :04:33.we would then have to renegotiate our entry into the youth outside,

:04:34. > :04:38.which I am sure is something that nobody wants. It is something that

:04:39. > :04:42.Kirsty Hughes, who is also going to be a witness at the committde on

:04:43. > :04:46.Thursday, who is a member of friends of Europe and the distinguished

:04:47. > :04:51.academic, subject, has written extensively on. I look forw`rd to

:04:52. > :04:53.hearing what she has to say. This is not a headlong rush towards

:04:54. > :05:00.independence as Willie Rennhe suggested. It is a contingency

:05:01. > :05:04.measure in Scotland 's best interests to put this legislation in

:05:05. > :05:08.place. It is an important contingency measure. The prhority

:05:09. > :05:12.now is to Act in the best interest of all of the people of Scotland

:05:13. > :05:16.whatever their views on independence, and I, for ond, very

:05:17. > :05:21.much will back the support of other countries across this Chambdr -

:05:22. > :05:25.parties across this Chamber because it is important that we Act, as one,

:05:26. > :05:30.if all the people of Scotland, and we will also always be led by the

:05:31. > :05:34.people of Scotland and their interests, first and foremost. Adam

:05:35. > :05:39.Tomkins to be followed by Rhchard Lockett. I said in my maiden speech

:05:40. > :05:46.in this Parliament, I wanted the United Kingdom to remain in the EU.

:05:47. > :05:48.And like all members on these benches to say that I am

:05:49. > :05:55.disappointed in last week 's result is something of an understatement.

:05:56. > :06:00.My real reaction to the restlt could not be translated into Parlhamentary

:06:01. > :06:03.language. I have seen nothing since Friday to make me think that I was

:06:04. > :06:08.wrong and I believe is the best outcome for the public interest In

:06:09. > :06:12.these remarks, I want to look to the future, not hark back on a campaign

:06:13. > :06:18.lost. The people of the UK voted to leave the EU. That much is clear.

:06:19. > :06:25.But only that much. Exactly what leaving the EU now means is anything

:06:26. > :06:29.but clear. And there is not merely an opportunity but an oblig`tion for

:06:30. > :06:33.all of us to begin to flesh out whether we wanted this outcome or

:06:34. > :06:38.not, what we think leave should now mean. We're going to be entdring

:06:39. > :06:43.into long negotiations with European partners. And the first task is to

:06:44. > :06:47.identify exactly what it is that we will be negotiating to achidve. The

:06:48. > :06:52.First Minister has said she wants to preserve Scotland 's position in the

:06:53. > :06:57.European Union. Fine. But qtite what this means is also unclear.

:06:58. > :07:00.Scotland, of course, is not and never has been one of the U member

:07:01. > :07:05.states, and about in Scotland last week was to seek to preservd the UK

:07:06. > :07:10.'s status as a member state, not to insist that Scotland becomes a new

:07:11. > :07:13.member state. The First Minhster has said she will appoint an expert

:07:14. > :07:18.advisory panel to look at what she has described as all the options and

:07:19. > :07:23.by what Magnus and offer to assist in any way that I can. So, what

:07:24. > :07:28.should leave mean? And what are the options for Scotland? To my mind,

:07:29. > :07:33.leave should mean that we rdtain full access to the EU 's single

:07:34. > :07:37.market. As I understand it, even those small numbers of MSPs who

:07:38. > :07:41.advocated the leave vote ard of the view that we should maintain Aspel

:07:42. > :07:47.and access to the singer market as possible. We may be, as has been

:07:48. > :07:50.remarked several since -- sdveral times since Friday, in unch`rted

:07:51. > :07:53.territory. But there are sthll some things we do know. Leaving the EU

:07:54. > :07:59.political institutions does not mean that we have to leave its shngle

:08:00. > :08:02.market, because there are sdveral countries including Norway, a place

:08:03. > :08:05.that the SNP often likes to talk about, who have just such an

:08:06. > :08:12.arrangement. What are the options for Scotland was Akroum agahn, they

:08:13. > :08:17.are many. And our obligation now is to put some flesh on the bones. Let

:08:18. > :08:19.me give an example. At the loment it is out with the legislative

:08:20. > :08:24.competence of this Parliament to enact law that is incompatible with

:08:25. > :08:28.EU law. We, as a Parliament could perfectly easily maintained that

:08:29. > :08:31.rule after the UK ceases to be an EU member state. We could pass an Act

:08:32. > :08:36.providing that all Scottish legislation is to be read and given

:08:37. > :08:40.effect subject to EU law and we could confirm in the Court of

:08:41. > :08:45.Session the jurisdiction to quash any legislation that is incompatible

:08:46. > :08:49.with European law. All of this is perfectly possible within otr

:08:50. > :08:53.current legislative competence. Presiding Officer, I make no

:08:54. > :08:58.pretence that the last two days have been easy. We have lost a Prime

:08:59. > :09:01.Minister. There is volatility in the markets and we face the prospect of

:09:02. > :09:06.difficult and protracted negotiations. But one posithve note

:09:07. > :09:10.struck in the past few days is the point strongly made by the Prime

:09:11. > :09:14.Minister that in those negotiations, the Scottish Government shotld play

:09:15. > :09:18.a leading role along with the devolved administrations in Northern

:09:19. > :09:23.Ireland and Wales. As the Prime Minister said, it is import`nt,

:09:24. > :09:27.vital, that the interests of all parts of the UK are representative

:09:28. > :09:34.effectively and properly in those negotiations. Of those advocating

:09:35. > :09:38.Scottish independence at thdir referendum in 2014, First Mhnister

:09:39. > :09:41.Alex Salmond said he would put together an all-party team from

:09:42. > :09:44.Scotland to negotiate on behalf of the nation. Likewise, now, the UK

:09:45. > :09:49.Government will put together an inclusive team negotiate on behalf

:09:50. > :09:50.of all the nations, England, Scotland, Wales and Northern

:09:51. > :10:06.Ireland. This is as it should be. ... Now people want to see their

:10:07. > :10:14.politicians working together in the best interests of the country. This

:10:15. > :10:21.is not where we wanted to bd. Mike rumbles. There is not a member in

:10:22. > :10:25.this Parliament more pro-UK than myself. Would you not agree that

:10:26. > :10:30.when the First Minister said about for this motion is not a vote for a

:10:31. > :10:37.referendum on independence, that we should work together across the

:10:38. > :10:44.Chamber, we should all work together and support the motion put forward

:10:45. > :10:49.by the government. I think we should work together to help the United

:10:50. > :10:51.Kingdom negotiate what it mdans by leave and to maintain and s`feguard

:10:52. > :10:57.the interests of Scotland. H have made that her thickly clear. What

:10:58. > :11:00.Scots now want to see -- perfectly clear. Scots want to see politicians

:11:01. > :11:03.working together in the best interests of this country. This is

:11:04. > :11:10.not where we wanted to be. This is where we are. So let's try `nd make

:11:11. > :11:20.the best of it, together. Thank you. APPLAUSE

:11:21. > :11:25.I call Richard Lockett to bd followed by Anas Sarwar. I spent the

:11:26. > :11:28.weekend attending constituency events. Thousands of people attended

:11:29. > :11:33.those and everyone wants to talk about the referendum. Peopld go from

:11:34. > :11:37.those who voted remain and who voted for leave as well, and they are now

:11:38. > :11:42.extremely anxious about the future and their children's future and the

:11:43. > :11:50.future of Scotland. I have been inundated with e-mails and letters

:11:51. > :11:53.over the last few days. A l`dy said I have two daughters aged two and

:11:54. > :11:57.four, what kind of country `re they going to grow up in? I am truly

:11:58. > :12:02.fearful for the future. The one thing everyone had in common was

:12:03. > :12:06.that they are keen for all politicians in this Parliamdnt in

:12:07. > :12:09.Scotland to show leadership in these difficult times, especially given

:12:10. > :12:13.the vacuum at UK level that we are witnessing. That is why the debate

:12:14. > :12:18.today is so important. We mtst deal with what may turn out to bd the

:12:19. > :12:23.biggest event so far in our lifetimes and post-war Europe. There

:12:24. > :12:27.have been other seminal events since post-war, the fall of the Bdrlin

:12:28. > :12:31.Wall which was about solidarity when Eastern European countries

:12:32. > :12:35.joined the Andrea Burk them with open arms. The UK has now chosen

:12:36. > :12:42.isolation over Corporation `nd damaged European unity. It hs noted

:12:43. > :12:46.that the referendum result has been welcomed by some of the most

:12:47. > :12:48.extremist voices across Europe. People hoping to put forward

:12:49. > :12:55.extremist agendas based on scapegoating minorities and others

:12:56. > :12:59.to blame for Europe 's currdnt woes. We must hope that the UK decision

:13:00. > :13:05.does not lead to a domino effect as reverberations of Brexit ard felt

:13:06. > :13:08.across the whole of Europe. By working together in this Parliament

:13:09. > :13:13.civic Scotland, to secure otr nation 's place in Europe we can sdnd out a

:13:14. > :13:19.message of hope and optimisl to its peoples. A message that says

:13:20. > :13:23.Scotland once an outward looking, modern, European country whdre we

:13:24. > :13:26.embrace rather than reject differences, and we are not going to

:13:27. > :13:30.run away from Europe 's tough challenges. I would urge all parties

:13:31. > :13:35.in this Chamber to focus on the outcome that we all profess to want,

:13:36. > :13:38.which is to stay in Europe, in line with the democratic wishes dxpressed

:13:39. > :13:43.by the people last Thursday. And yes, we need time to considdr all

:13:44. > :13:46.the options and consider thd views of all parties, and I hear

:13:47. > :13:52.suggestions that we can rem`in part of the UK which is out of Etrope

:13:53. > :13:55.last week and other parts of the UK remain in the EU, and I am looking

:13:56. > :14:01.forward to hearing the detahls of how that could work in practice and

:14:02. > :14:05.not lead to political and ddmocratic messiness of blank cheques for

:14:06. > :14:09.constitutional and commerci`l lawyers for the rest of timd. But

:14:10. > :14:12.the Parliament must be careful to listen to all views, in Parliament

:14:13. > :14:17.and out Parliament. The Minhster is absolutely correct to say that a

:14:18. > :14:22.second independence referendum must be on the table. Many peopld who

:14:23. > :14:25.voted no in 2014 are now seding enough is enough to stop thd

:14:26. > :14:29.reference point in the independence that they'd have been radic`lly

:14:30. > :14:33.altered. Many no voters are saying that if it was a choice between

:14:34. > :14:38.remaining in an isolated UK out of Europe whilst we've voted to remain

:14:39. > :14:42.-- wasabi voted remain, or to be governed by Conservatives dhd not

:14:43. > :14:48.vote for either, then we will vote differently next time, and they

:14:49. > :14:54.deserve a voice. Could you perhaps explain why, if this motion which

:14:55. > :14:59.you are supporting and debating today, you are now the second back

:15:00. > :15:03.and chest in the Speaker and two out of two have moved on to inddpendence

:15:04. > :15:10.and a second referendum. Th`t is where the concern is from these

:15:11. > :15:14.benches when a large majority in your constituency are not stpporting

:15:15. > :15:17.this motion. It would be cotple of the Conservatives rallied round with

:15:18. > :15:21.one party in this Gibran put the Scottish interest first and not the

:15:22. > :15:26.UK. APPLAUSE

:15:27. > :15:30.In doing so, can I say that we cannot ignore the 30% of Scots who

:15:31. > :15:35.voted to leave but many had genuine concerns that need to be addressed.

:15:36. > :15:39.Europe is evolving and we nded a vision of the kind of Europd we want

:15:40. > :15:44.Scotland to be part of. If we support a reform agenda we have to

:15:45. > :15:48.say what that is and we havd to articulate it.

:15:49. > :15:54.The next two years will be lomentous and decide the long-term for you

:15:55. > :15:59.chuck of Scotland. There ard other steps we can now take to protect the

:16:00. > :16:03.interests of Scotland. Betwden now and Brexit many decisions are going

:16:04. > :16:08.to be taken in the EU that will impact our economy and commtnities.

:16:09. > :16:11.In this new environment I do not believe the UK is able to look after

:16:12. > :16:15.the interest of Scotland sub it is important that Scotland shotld

:16:16. > :16:20.formally request that our mhnisters from this government lead the UK

:16:21. > :16:26.delegations to those formal and informal councils of ministdrs

:16:27. > :16:29.meetings that will take place in Brussels and Luxembourg in the next

:16:30. > :16:35.two years where the genders are of relevance to the national interest

:16:36. > :16:38.of this country. Whether it is negotiating fish quotas or

:16:39. > :16:42.environmental policy relationships matter and attitude matters and

:16:43. > :16:46.commitment matters and goodwill on both sides of the table is

:16:47. > :16:51.absolutely essential. Negothators want to know you will be serious and

:16:52. > :16:56.in it for the long term but we are now in the situation where the UK is

:16:57. > :17:00.walking away. There is no incentive on either side to bank negotiating

:17:01. > :17:05.capital for the future, but we do know there is goodwill towards

:17:06. > :17:10.Scotland and Europe, goodwill from member states and institutions, as

:17:11. > :17:16.we saw today in response to the speech from Allan Smith tod`y.

:17:17. > :17:21.Scotland wants to participate and act in the long-term interest of our

:17:22. > :17:23.own priorities and Europe. Between now and Brexit Scottish minhsters

:17:24. > :17:29.should be given the opportunity to lead for Europe in the UK. Finally

:17:30. > :17:34.before I close it would be `n idea for the EU to postpone the TK

:17:35. > :17:42.presidency slot in 2017 that will be unable to beef fulfilled and that

:17:43. > :17:48.should be left open in case Scotland become a member state. That position

:17:49. > :17:53.should also be offered to Scotland or indeed Northern Ireland. Everyone

:17:54. > :17:59.please support this motion today that is unprecedented in anxious

:18:00. > :18:03.times. All parties should ptt Scotland's national interests before

:18:04. > :18:14.their own on this very spechal occasion and during these dhfficult

:18:15. > :18:18.and anxious times for Scotl`nd. I voted remain on Thursday because I

:18:19. > :18:23.believed it was in the best interest of Scotland in the UK to do so. I

:18:24. > :18:27.felt a huge sadness to see the results as they came in and the

:18:28. > :18:31.biggest reason was that we have lost the opportunity to stop talking

:18:32. > :18:36.about constitutional politics and instead focus on the matters of

:18:37. > :18:41.issues right here and right now Many of them are issues of life and

:18:42. > :18:45.death. Today's debate comes as new figures show that the expected

:18:46. > :18:52.standard on cancer treatment has now not been met for over three years.

:18:53. > :18:56.Let us not underestimate wh`t happened on Thursday. This hs a

:18:57. > :19:02.seismic event for the UK and the EU. There are millions of peopld across

:19:03. > :19:07.the United Kingdom who are deeply disappointed with the result in

:19:08. > :19:10.anxious about the consequences. Consequences dominated by the

:19:11. > :19:16.reaction and volatility in the markets. Let's be clear what the

:19:17. > :19:21.markets means. It is people's jobs, wages, mortgages and pensions. Our

:19:22. > :19:25.immediate priority must be to encourage calm heads and to protect

:19:26. > :19:31.individuals and businesses who may be affected by the volatility. This

:19:32. > :19:34.is not the time to think about short-term political interests,

:19:35. > :19:39.because what facing as a nation is much bigger than that. Therd is no

:19:40. > :19:46.doubt that the United Kingdom is at the start of an economic crhsis

:19:47. > :19:48.overlaid by a constitutional crisis. That is why Scotland must play a

:19:49. > :19:56.full part in the process gohng forward. Indeed I believe the First

:19:57. > :19:59.Minister has a duty to engage in all talks and negotiations becatse

:20:00. > :20:05.rightly all options should remain open. That is why there must be a

:20:06. > :20:09.formal structure that allows all of the talents and peoples of the

:20:10. > :20:14.nations and regions, includhng Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales

:20:15. > :20:17.and London, to be an equal part of the negotiation process so we can

:20:18. > :20:24.get the best deal possible for all parts of the United Kingdom. This

:20:25. > :20:31.structure should also have ` remit to discuss and decide with

:20:32. > :20:35.significant powers being repatriated to the UK, where they should reside,

:20:36. > :20:39.it includes significant powdrs on fishing and farming that ard crucial

:20:40. > :20:43.to the Scottish economy. I believe it is premature to talk abott the

:20:44. > :20:47.timing of any future independence referendum, especially as wd don't

:20:48. > :20:51.yet even know what the terms of the UK leaving the EU will be, or,

:20:52. > :20:57.indeed, what the terms of Scotland leaving the UK to join the DU would

:20:58. > :21:04.be, if that is even the casd. The market volatility that we h`ve seen

:21:05. > :21:06.in the last few days shows that asking people to make a dechsion

:21:07. > :21:09.without fully considering the consequences have implications that

:21:10. > :21:16.are dangerous for jobs, wagds, mortgages and pensions. I wdlcome

:21:17. > :21:20.the tone that the First Minhster has adopted since Thursday. She is right

:21:21. > :21:24.to say that we are in uncharted territory and I hope that that is a

:21:25. > :21:29.tone that continues in the weeks and months ahead. The First Minhster is

:21:30. > :21:34.right to ask questions about the impact on the single market, on free

:21:35. > :21:37.movement, our currency and our international relationships going

:21:38. > :21:41.forward. We do need clarity on what the new arrangements will mdan for

:21:42. > :21:47.the ?11.6 billion of trade that Scotland does with the EU, but we

:21:48. > :21:52.will also need clarity on what any new arrangements would mean for the

:21:53. > :21:55.?48.5 billion of trade Scotland does with the rest of the United Kingdom.

:21:56. > :21:59.The First Minister is right that we need to see what the new

:22:00. > :22:04.arrangements will need for the tens of thousands of EU nationals living,

:22:05. > :22:10.studying and working in Scotland, and for the 135,000 Scots working in

:22:11. > :22:14.Europe, but we will also nedd clarity on what any new arr`ngements

:22:15. > :22:19.would mean further more than 50 ,000 Scots living, working and studying

:22:20. > :22:23.in other parts of the United Kingdom. There are many unanswered

:22:24. > :22:27.questions. What would be thd details of any deals for Scotland? What

:22:28. > :22:31.terms with the UK sector with the EU? What will be the status of the

:22:32. > :22:36.new relationship? How much `ccess to EU markets will we retain or lose?

:22:37. > :22:41.Will the people of Scotland have their opportunity to have a say on

:22:42. > :22:44.any we negotiated terms on membership and crucially wh`t

:22:45. > :22:49.guarantees would we have before any proposed vote on independence? The

:22:50. > :22:55.First Minister always makes the point that the UK is not thd same

:22:56. > :22:59.now as it was in 2014, but H put it to this parliament that the EU may

:23:00. > :23:05.not be the same in two years as it is now. Let us not have somd

:23:06. > :23:09.romantic view of the politics on mainland Europe. I bitterly oppose

:23:10. > :23:15.the right-wing politics of Boris Johnson and Michael Gove, btt be in

:23:16. > :23:19.no doubt, they are made to look like moderates compared to Marie Le Pen

:23:20. > :23:23.of the French National partx who could be president next year, or the

:23:24. > :23:32.rise of the far right party in Germany and Perdido Hooper `re -

:23:33. > :23:37.plan violent processes across Europe. The Slovakian Prime Minister

:23:38. > :23:43.said, multiculturalism is fhx, is lamp as no place in Slovaki`. This

:23:44. > :23:48.man may take over the rotathng presidency in the coming wedks.

:23:49. > :23:51.There are many other mainstream and populist parties amongst thdm,

:23:52. > :23:56.climate change deniers comic anti-Semites and Islamophobd 's

:23:57. > :24:02.Since Thursday we have seen an increase in hate crimes. In Glasgow

:24:03. > :24:06.neo-Nazi stickers have gone up, claiming white zones. We should send

:24:07. > :24:10.a strong message to all minorities that are here, that this is your

:24:11. > :24:16.home, and we stand with you in peace and unity and to the spreaddrs of

:24:17. > :24:21.hate we say it directly, it is not our minorities that are not welcome

:24:22. > :24:27.here, but you and your hateful views that are not welcome in Scotland and

:24:28. > :24:30.the United Kingdom. So, to conclude, there is much uncertainty over the

:24:31. > :24:34.coming months. We do not know what the negotiations will throw up so

:24:35. > :24:38.when the First Minister says that everything is on the table H really

:24:39. > :24:50.hope that she means it. We need to wait and see what the outcoles are

:24:51. > :24:53.of the negotiations, so we can make clear and reasoned decisions. That

:24:54. > :24:57.is why we need to have cool heads, to ensure we make decisions not with

:24:58. > :25:00.anger but with reason. Membdrs are starting to allow their spedches to

:25:01. > :25:10.drift over time so could I `sk you to have the about that. We face in

:25:11. > :25:14.Brexit something I thought we would never have 2-Face. Only a fdw weeks

:25:15. > :25:19.ago I said that the leave c`mpaign seemed to have taken leave of their

:25:20. > :25:22.senses, threatening systematic cuts to the Scotland Budget and `

:25:23. > :25:28.reversal of the gains of definition in the event of that breaks and now

:25:29. > :25:33.we're hearing those calls. This sort of rhetoric from a key vote leave

:25:34. > :25:37.spokesman has shown that calpaign in its true colours, hostile to the

:25:38. > :25:42.Scottish parliament, the consensus on this place in Holyrood and our

:25:43. > :25:45.voters, who voted overwhelmhngly in favour of remaining within the

:25:46. > :25:49.European Union. We also hear that Theresa May, a potential candidate

:25:50. > :25:53.to be Prime Minister of this United Kingdom, we hear her say th`t we

:25:54. > :25:56.need to get out of the European Convention of human rights `nd it is

:25:57. > :26:03.to those rights that I will concentrate on today. Robert Burns

:26:04. > :26:11.wrote a while your's eyes are fixed on mighty things, them empires and

:26:12. > :26:17.fall of Kings... Amid this lighty fuss just let me mention thd rights

:26:18. > :26:21.of women merit some attention. That poem was written about the time of

:26:22. > :26:27.the French Revolution with Durope in turmoil and war just around the

:26:28. > :26:34.corner at every turn. As th`t continued and popular reforl

:26:35. > :26:38.societies abdicated Parliamdntary reform there was the fear of the

:26:39. > :26:44.spread of revolutionary ideology on our home territory. How famhliar

:26:45. > :26:50.that is today. In 1793 radical was arrested and transported and two

:26:51. > :26:56.said later we do not, we cannot consider ourselves as mode `nd

:26:57. > :27:04.melted down into another cotntry. Have we not distinct courts, judges,

:27:05. > :27:11.juries, laws. Absolutely. Hd had been the architect of a new reform

:27:12. > :27:14.Society in Scotland and optdd to reform club is unlimited to social

:27:15. > :27:26.class, that wasn't the case elsewhere. That brings us to what

:27:27. > :27:30.lies at the heart of this ctrrent EU debate, nationhood, citizen Hood,

:27:31. > :27:35.this is sovereignty and the rights of every man and woman. The fates of

:27:36. > :27:42.empires. Governments ignoring the will of people will face thd dire

:27:43. > :27:47.consequences of it. We do not seek resolution or revolution, as

:27:48. > :27:56.described, we seek enlightenment, sisterhood. When Thomas Paine was

:27:57. > :28:01.lauded for his rights of mine, the rights we cherish so much not to be

:28:02. > :28:04.toyed with by any government. I am a is true supporter of the European

:28:05. > :28:09.Convention on human rights @pple fight for it every step of the way

:28:10. > :28:12.and I believe that we can rdform the European Union and we know that

:28:13. > :28:16.because we have done it before. Professor Neil McCormick was an

:28:17. > :28:20.architect of -- architect of that reform of the almost pushed Europe

:28:21. > :28:25.to a constitution enshrining our fundamental rights. There wd are,

:28:26. > :28:28.back to those rights that are so important. His work pushed forward

:28:29. > :28:32.that agenda towards the Lisbon Treaty and without his earlx work we

:28:33. > :28:39.would not have that treaty so another Scotsman who took up the

:28:40. > :28:42.cause, protecting and extending our fundamental human rights as EU

:28:43. > :28:46.citizens. Article 18 of the Treaty on the function of the European

:28:47. > :28:50.Union provides that no citizen shall be discriminated against on the

:28:51. > :28:56.basis of nationality. The chtizens of member states also have

:28:57. > :29:02.employment rights that derive from EU registration and -- legislation

:29:03. > :29:04.and EU treaties have enshrined principals promoting

:29:05. > :29:10.non-discrimination on areas of sex, race and ethnic origin, relhgion or

:29:11. > :29:14.belief, disability, age or sexual orientation. As a result thd EU has

:29:15. > :29:21.developed comprehensive leghslation in the area of non-discrimination

:29:22. > :29:31.and equality. It began with sex discrimination in employment and has

:29:32. > :29:35.been extended. The people of Scotland through due democr`tic

:29:36. > :29:38.process reaffirmed its belidf in and support of that European Unhon and I

:29:39. > :29:42.think it only right that thhs government be supported by our

:29:43. > :29:52.Parliament to realise the ddmands placed on it by us, the people and

:29:53. > :29:57.our voters. Stated articles are open to European states that respect

:29:58. > :30:02.common values such as human dignity, freedom, democracy, equalitx, the

:30:03. > :30:07.rule of law and respect for human rights and member states also

:30:08. > :30:22.declare that these things prevail in their societies. These are things I

:30:23. > :30:25.am happy to pin my name to. There are names that every Scottish man

:30:26. > :30:29.and woman ought to know. If you are called for jury service, whdn your

:30:30. > :30:34.name is drawn by Lott and you vote in an election and you freely voice

:30:35. > :30:37.your thought, don't take thdse things for granted because dearly

:30:38. > :30:42.they were fought. It is with these rights in mind that I support this

:30:43. > :30:47.motion by our government today and I ask them to devote themselvds to the

:30:48. > :30:50.cause of the people. It is ` good cause and it shall ultimately

:30:51. > :30:59.prevail and it shall finallx triumph.

:31:00. > :31:10.Oliver on Delta be followed by Jackie Baillie. -- Oliver Mondale to

:31:11. > :31:18.be followed by. It is easy to think that this tells a single story, it

:31:19. > :31:24.does not. It tells 33,000,500 individual stories with people of

:31:25. > :31:26.all backgrounds from all corners of our United Kingdom and from

:31:27. > :31:31.different political persuashons coming together in the largdst

:31:32. > :31:36.exercise in democracy are islands have ever seen. People voted lead,

:31:37. > :31:41.and they voted remain, for ` multitude of different reasons. And

:31:42. > :31:47.rightly so. This was a complicated decision with many competing and in

:31:48. > :31:54.some cases mutually incompatible outcomes. It is context we lust now

:31:55. > :31:56.look at the overall result hn Scotland which is just one

:31:57. > :32:02.dimensional flat. Rather th`n jump to hasty conclusions as the First

:32:03. > :32:05.Minister has done, we must take time to digestive backpack and rdflect on

:32:06. > :32:09.what this result means for people here in Scotland and elsewhdre

:32:10. > :32:15.across our United Kingdom. Hn the long run, people will not look

:32:16. > :32:21.kindly on political posturing or idle speculation. And now more than

:32:22. > :32:26.ever we have a responsibility to pull together and knuckle down to

:32:27. > :32:30.the task in hand. I have no time and we are keeping strictly to time It

:32:31. > :32:33.is in that spirit I would ask all those who voted to remain to find

:32:34. > :32:38.themselves questioning the democratic process, to refldct on

:32:39. > :32:41.the fact that 19,005 and medting people in my own dump the ship

:32:42. > :32:49.constituency voted to leave the European Union. -- my dump Fischer

:32:50. > :32:53.constituency, a higher numbdr than voted for me as their MSP. @cross

:32:54. > :32:59.Scotland, over 1 million voters put the cross next to leave, a larger

:33:00. > :33:03.number than to put their cross next to Nicola Sturgeon for First

:33:04. > :33:07.Minister, and just short of the total number who voted for the SNP

:33:08. > :33:13.in the constituency ballot. Whilst this is far short of a majority of

:33:14. > :33:16.Scots, it was by no means slall or insignificant number of people and,

:33:17. > :33:22.of course, whilst the result was decisive in Scotland- wide context,

:33:23. > :33:30.we must recognise there werd significant variation within

:33:31. > :33:36.Scotland with 49.9% voting leave in Moray compared to 25% in Edhnburgh.

:33:37. > :33:39.I know that that might seem of little consequence to the m`ny who

:33:40. > :33:44.feel angry, as if their boys was not hurt, but it is important to

:33:45. > :33:47.remember that the viewer a of the majority is seldom universal in a

:33:48. > :33:51.democracy, no matter how yot choose to look at the numbers and whilst I

:33:52. > :33:54.understand that it First Minister and for that matter many decent and

:33:55. > :34:00.fair minded people did not `gree with the result, it remains the UK-

:34:01. > :34:06.wide result and we must all respect that outcome. Just as those across

:34:07. > :34:08.the rest of the United Kingdom accepted the possibility at the

:34:09. > :34:14.start of the campaign that Scotland might have helped together deliver a

:34:15. > :34:17.remain result. Now is not the time to rake over the campaign or dwell

:34:18. > :34:21.on the result because we ard where we are. Instead, we owe it to people

:34:22. > :34:27.to start considering where we go next. The truth is, this debate is

:34:28. > :34:33.not about the result. Nor, sadly, does it even seemed to be about what

:34:34. > :34:36.is best for the people of Scotland. Instead, it is again forced many SNP

:34:37. > :34:42.about one thing and one thing only, independence. Since by the lorning

:34:43. > :34:47.we have seen once and for all that behind the seemingly good intentions

:34:48. > :34:51.lies a deliberate malice. If they were serious about building

:34:52. > :34:56.consensus and negotiating in good faith then they would have taken a

:34:57. > :35:02.second referendum of the table. And all we have seen is what st`rted as

:35:03. > :35:06.a statesman-like approach r`pidly descend into self interest. And

:35:07. > :35:10.whilst I acknowledge that events have been moving very quickly, the

:35:11. > :35:15.First Minister has fast become like a runaway train, defaulting back to

:35:16. > :35:22.her all-too-familiar mantra of independence at any cost. And while

:35:23. > :35:26.others have taken steps to steady the ship with leading Leave

:35:27. > :35:31.campaigners supporting Adel`ide to the article that the process,

:35:32. > :35:37.allowing time for the best `pproach and a consensus to be reachdd, the

:35:38. > :35:41.First Minister has sought to amplify division. In doing so, she not only

:35:42. > :35:45.does a disservice to leave voters like me, but far more disgr`cefully,

:35:46. > :35:49.the First Minister is letting down those who voted to remain bx

:35:50. > :35:52.potentially undermining what could yet prove to be a better de`l for

:35:53. > :35:57.access to the single market for Scotland than could hope for as an

:35:58. > :36:01.independent nation. For a start that would be one that allowed us to

:36:02. > :36:05.use the pound rather than the euro. The truth is, this debate is a red

:36:06. > :36:07.herring and India motion th`t followed the result it is e`sy to

:36:08. > :36:12.overlook the fact that Nicola Sturgeon wanted independencd no

:36:13. > :36:15.matter what, that before thhs campaign started she abandoned her

:36:16. > :36:20.once-in-a-lifetime pledge almost as quickly as it left her lips. That is

:36:21. > :36:25.why, in or out of Europe, wd must never allow ourselves to forget that

:36:26. > :36:30.the SNP exist for one purpose and one purpose only, to break tp our

:36:31. > :36:36.United Kingdom. For me, likd many fellow Scots, in good times and in

:36:37. > :36:41.bad, it is always that prim`ry union between are family of nations that

:36:42. > :36:46.will come first. Even in adversity, and even ended his appointmdnt and

:36:47. > :36:50.anger that many feel, there is a greater good, something far more

:36:51. > :36:54.important to our future prosperity than our European Union membership,

:36:55. > :36:59.and now it is time to fight for that, and to work together hn good

:37:00. > :37:09.faith to secure the best de`l for Scotland. Thank you. Jackie Baillie

:37:10. > :37:12.to be followed by Michael Rtssell. Like many in this Chamber and across

:37:13. > :37:17.the country I was but a leaders appointed that the result of the

:37:18. > :37:19.European Union referendum. Ht felt akin to a bereavement when the

:37:20. > :37:26.results were being declared across the country. I am greatly in respect

:37:27. > :37:32.of democracy, but I was horrified to see Nigel Farage celebrating his

:37:33. > :37:36.result on Friday morning. This man was the face of Britain that was

:37:37. > :37:41.reflected to the world. And I reject everything he stands for, and he

:37:42. > :37:47.certainly does not speak for me What is clear is that David Cameron

:37:48. > :37:51.gambled with our future. He couldn't control the Eurosceptics in the Tory

:37:52. > :37:57.Party, so he gambled on a rdferendum and he lost, but we are all the

:37:58. > :38:03.losers for that. He will shortly be out of office. We will, in time

:38:04. > :38:07.potentially be out of the Etropean Union, and the price for thd country

:38:08. > :38:12.in Scotland and across the TK may well be very high indeed. Pdople

:38:13. > :38:17.tell me that this was an antiestablishment vote. And that is

:38:18. > :38:21.maybe so. And we need to understand the reasons why people voted in the

:38:22. > :38:25.way they did. But let's not pretend that Nigel Farage, Boris Johnson and

:38:26. > :38:31.Michael Gove are anything btt the establishment. They went into this

:38:32. > :38:37.referendum not expecting victory. Without a plan for what thex would

:38:38. > :38:45.do, leaving the country in continuing uncertainty. And I bore

:38:46. > :38:48.the approach of the Leave c`mpaign, cynically in what they said and had

:38:49. > :38:53.promised to increase funding to the NHS, which they denied withhn indeed

:38:54. > :38:59.less than 12 hours of the close of walls. I agree wholeheartedly with

:39:00. > :39:02.the First Minister 's sentilent and that of others, that people from

:39:03. > :39:08.Europe and across the world are welcome in Scotland. But I `m

:39:09. > :39:12.disappointed by the result. And angry by the nature of the campaign.

:39:13. > :39:17.But there is a need now for stability and cool heads. Otr

:39:18. > :39:21.responsibility is to assess the impact and take action wherd it is

:39:22. > :39:24.right to do so. And, in addhtion to the representation is being made

:39:25. > :39:30.across Europe, I believe our immediate priority as well lust be

:39:31. > :39:34.action to protect the econoly and jobs. I would be pleased to hear

:39:35. > :39:37.what the Scottish Government will do in that regard, in tandem whth the

:39:38. > :39:43.representations they are making elsewhere. Before Brexit became a

:39:44. > :39:48.reality, the Fraser of Alhadur Institute said we were flirting with

:39:49. > :39:51.a recession in Scotland. Growth was slowing, we underperformed relative

:39:52. > :39:57.to the UK, and we were facing stagnation in the economy. H regret

:39:58. > :40:01.that that prospect, with many economists think it is more likely

:40:02. > :40:05.now across Scotland and the UK. We have seen a sharp decline in the

:40:06. > :40:09.stock market wiping billions from share prices, and the falling pound

:40:10. > :40:16.against the dollar and the duro And whilst I am sure that we all hope

:40:17. > :40:20.that this stabilises quicklx, it makes a practical focus on the

:40:21. > :40:23.economy essential. Currentlx we exported mostly to the rest of the

:40:24. > :40:28.UK followed closely by the rest of Europe. The government 's and

:40:29. > :40:32.statistics for 2014 showed that 42% of all international exports would

:40:33. > :40:38.Western for the EU at the v`lue of some ?11.6 billion. One in dvery ?6

:40:39. > :40:42.in our business economy is generated by companies based in the rdst of

:40:43. > :40:48.Europe. So this matters to our economic well-being. Businesses do

:40:49. > :40:55.adapt to changing circumstances But these changes are often most keenly

:40:56. > :40:58.felt by those who work for them and in lessening job opportunithes. We

:40:59. > :41:03.are hearing anecdotal evidence of changes to investment plans,

:41:04. > :41:06.companies paid in dollars sdeing an immediate loss because of the

:41:07. > :41:10.exchange rate and one man and now of was about to start an engindering

:41:11. > :41:14.job in Europe, and he has now been told to stay at home, because they

:41:15. > :41:19.had no idea if they are going to recruiter that job any more. And

:41:20. > :41:23.what about right on it prodtct, Scotch Whisky? Likes of much of the

:41:24. > :41:27.food and drinks sector reprdsenting an increasing contribution to the

:41:28. > :41:31.GDP, a substantial exported to Europe accounting for thous`nds of

:41:32. > :41:36.jobs. It is that impact on the people we serve that we must focus

:41:37. > :41:41.our attention on. There are views on mortgages, pensions. All of these

:41:42. > :41:45.may be affected. Let me zool in on a couple points. It is about the

:41:46. > :41:52.impact on people that we nedd to look at. On a second referendum I

:41:53. > :41:54.acknowledge and welcome be the assurance given by the First

:41:55. > :41:59.Minister that this is not hdr starting point. Let me say `s

:42:00. > :42:06.respectfully as I can, I listened to Fergus Ewing with great attdntion

:42:07. > :42:11.this morning on GMS and he suggested independence was the only answer. I

:42:12. > :42:17.had the government not to f`ce both ways on this. Let me say, jtst as

:42:18. > :42:23.Nicola Sturgeon said, that the UK, I am in my final minute, that the UK

:42:24. > :42:30.had changed. Well, so will the new... We have a point of order

:42:31. > :42:34.Miss Bailey. Miss Bailey sahd that she refused to take my point of

:42:35. > :42:40.order. That is not the point of order. It is up to the Speaker who

:42:41. > :42:47.she allows to intervene. No, Mr Ewing, that was not a point of

:42:48. > :42:52.order. Miss Bailey is currently making her contribution. I hope

:42:53. > :42:57.added time will reflect the intervention I have add. Nicola

:42:58. > :43:00.Sturgeon said that the UK h`d changed, but so will the EU, so it

:43:01. > :43:05.is imperative that, should we be faced with another independdnce

:43:06. > :43:10.referendum, that clear, det`iled terms of joining Europe will be set

:43:11. > :43:13.out in advance, because if we join the euro, we will need to ddcrease

:43:14. > :43:20.public debt. That means cutting public spending. What implications

:43:21. > :43:23.will that have for our servhces I want to remain in Europe. I am a

:43:24. > :43:28.committed European. But we lust approach this with our eyes wide

:43:29. > :43:32.open and take time to consider what we should do. At the moment it is a

:43:33. > :43:38.constantly changing landscape. We don't know what will happen. The

:43:39. > :43:41.First Minister is intent on bringing forward another independencd

:43:42. > :43:46.referendum to this country, then she must spell out in detail wh`t the

:43:47. > :43:51.terms of that engagement with Europe will be, and nothing less whll do.

:43:52. > :43:55.Presiding Officer, let me fhnish by welcoming the First Minister 's

:43:56. > :43:59.comments about working together We should be working together `cross

:44:00. > :44:04.the UK, people in Northern Hreland, London, Manchester and other areas

:44:05. > :44:08.beside. They will feel the dconomic consequences of this, so let's not

:44:09. > :44:17.stand alone in our negotiathons with Europe. Michael Russell to be

:44:18. > :44:20.followed by Elaine Smith. I want to address two issues, the imp`ct of

:44:21. > :44:26.the decision last Thursday on this Parliament in terms of Scotland and

:44:27. > :44:30.its budget and finances and process. And what I think is the existential

:44:31. > :44:35.choice that Scotland now faces. Firstly, on the issue of budget it

:44:36. > :44:39.is obvious that in our presdnt state of partial dependence, budgdt

:44:40. > :44:43.decisions made south of the border impact directly on what we have to

:44:44. > :44:46.spend and on our timescale of scrutiny. We are clearly dependent

:44:47. > :44:50.in block grant and taxation on the overall health of the UK economy.

:44:51. > :44:54.Huge insecurity has been crdated not only by the vote last week but by

:44:55. > :44:58.the political paralysis that has followed it. George Osborne, the

:44:59. > :45:03.author of the disastrous revenge budget idea, is now the author of

:45:04. > :45:08.the equally damaging no budget idea. The Autumn Statement will follow a

:45:09. > :45:11.challenge in Tory leadership and a changing Minister. It might be

:45:12. > :45:15.subordinated a snap general election. Although these factors

:45:16. > :45:19.create considerable uncertahnty in Scotland, where the draft btdget is

:45:20. > :45:21.due according to the existing timetable to be published bx 20 of

:45:22. > :45:34.September. Anyone in London will have two

:45:35. > :45:40.clarify this matter. We will need to make decisions in Scotland on how we

:45:41. > :45:44.move ahead. It may not be the time for a spending review. Must -- much

:45:45. > :45:49.discussion on this is required and tomorrow the finance committee will

:45:50. > :45:53.have an opportunity to disctss this with the finance minister, ` rather

:45:54. > :45:57.unusual first evidence sesshon for both. Finance issues lie within the

:45:58. > :46:01.overall context of political issues and it has been and is an

:46:02. > :46:05.extraordinary political tidd. The First Minister is aptly be correct

:46:06. > :46:08.that her leadership has been inspirational in this last weekend.

:46:09. > :46:12.The key issue is to retain our membership of the EU and th`t is our

:46:13. > :46:15.objective and it is right that we start that process today with a

:46:16. > :46:17.clear instruction to the Scottish Government to explore every

:46:18. > :46:25.possibility and consider evdry route there may be. What is not in doubt

:46:26. > :46:31.is the objective must be achieved. It must be achieved because only by

:46:32. > :46:35.doing so can we retain, each one of us retain our European citizenship

:46:36. > :46:38.which amongst other things guarantees free movement, protect us

:46:39. > :46:42.in the workplace, enhances `nd conserves the environment in which

:46:43. > :46:46.we live and welcomes divershty and difference within a tolerant hole,

:46:47. > :46:49.whilst allowing us to participate in the structures of the union as

:46:50. > :46:58.equals, individually and collectively. I have the opportunity

:46:59. > :47:03.to ask the First Minister, `s chair of the finance committee, is it his

:47:04. > :47:07.view that should be Scotland leave the EU and have to rejoin at a later

:47:08. > :47:14.date, that it would be subjdct to joining the euro and be tied by a 3%

:47:15. > :47:19.deficit? I am not speaking hn my capacity as chair of the finance

:47:20. > :47:24.committee but as my capacitx about someone who knows anything `bout

:47:25. > :47:30.politics would no that is a silly question because there is no such

:47:31. > :47:33.requirement. Let me deal with realities. The touchstone for me is

:47:34. > :47:37.European citizenship. I don't want to give that up in Scotland did not

:47:38. > :47:42.consent to give that up for anyone who lives here. European citizenship

:47:43. > :47:47.is an addition not a substitution, we enjoyed in addition to otr UK

:47:48. > :47:51.citizenship. We are presently Scottish, British and Europdan but

:47:52. > :47:55.now we are being forced to give one of those up and that is truly an

:47:56. > :48:00.existential choice and it goes to the heart of who we are and who we

:48:01. > :48:04.will be. We are being forced to decide if we are British or European

:48:05. > :48:10.and we are being told we cannot be both. I was born in England and I

:48:11. > :48:14.have many family and friends there, what Chesterton called the plain

:48:15. > :48:18.people of England, a good, noble outgoing and generous and they have

:48:19. > :48:23.been failed by their leaders and they are still being failed. That is

:48:24. > :48:26.a tragedy. The First Ministdr is right to say that the country that

:48:27. > :48:29.Scotland chose to remain in two years ago no longer exists `nd it is

:48:30. > :48:33.the people of England to sed that most clearly now. They ended it with

:48:34. > :48:37.their vote last week. They lust find a way forward from that and I hope

:48:38. > :48:42.they can find a better way forward but accepting that failure `nd its

:48:43. > :48:46.consequences is Scotland -- something Scotland cannot and must

:48:47. > :48:50.not do. We must look up to see a vision of corporation and

:48:51. > :48:56.engagement, the daughter whhch as was said yesterday is opening,

:48:57. > :49:02.festival for discussion. In 185 in the House of Commons during a

:49:03. > :49:06.difficult of their Palmerston talked about his objective in forehgn

:49:07. > :49:10.policy. His objective was this, to ensure that the British subject in

:49:11. > :49:14.whatever land he may be shall feel confident that the watchful eye and

:49:15. > :49:18.the strong arm of England whll protect him against injustice and

:49:19. > :49:23.wrong. That is the choice now for us. Should we do as we are told and

:49:24. > :49:28.rely once again on the watchful eye on the strong arm of England to

:49:29. > :49:32.protect us? Have we grown ott of that? Given that the eye and the arm

:49:33. > :49:36.are withered beyond recognition Would it not be more in keeping with

:49:37. > :49:40.the times to see collaborathon, Corporation and an open outlook to

:49:41. > :49:45.the world, and if that is so, where do we get those? Only in our

:49:46. > :49:49.membership of the EU. That hs the existential choice and we are being

:49:50. > :49:55.forced to make it. Finally let me go very close to home. On Frid`y I was

:49:56. > :49:59.on the island of mile and ydsterday I was in mid Argyll where there is

:50:00. > :50:04.genuine apprehension and fe`r about the consequences of what is taking

:50:05. > :50:08.place. Talk of job losses and companies retrenchment. Concern

:50:09. > :50:11.about investment, public and private and worry about funds and loans and

:50:12. > :50:18.an acknowledgement of how mtch comes from Europe and still comes to

:50:19. > :50:23.support rural areas. Somethhng more. Centuries of engagement havd made us

:50:24. > :50:26.European. We were European before we were British, sending students to

:50:27. > :50:34.the continent, Sherry citizdnship with France, appealing our very

:50:35. > :50:41.nationhood. In war and in pdace we look to Europe and they look to us.

:50:42. > :50:45.In the words of Voltaire, for our very idea of civilisation. Our

:50:46. > :50:48.existential choices being m`de not because of this referendum but

:50:49. > :50:53.because of our history. Its inherent in who we are. We cannot be anyone

:50:54. > :50:58.else. We are European and chtizens of Europe and that is what we have

:50:59. > :51:10.chosen to remain at what we must remain, no matter how and no matter

:51:11. > :51:15.what it takes. As one of only a few MSPs who put a case for leave,

:51:16. > :51:19.though not part of any official campaign I feel I must contribute to

:51:20. > :51:24.the debate today, after all nearly 40% of those who use their vote

:51:25. > :51:27.actually boated Leave and they were spread across all parties and that

:51:28. > :51:30.effectively means that this parliament did not affect that in

:51:31. > :51:34.the contributions prior to the vote and while I appreciate that members

:51:35. > :51:37.will have their personal vidws or party line, I would have thought

:51:38. > :51:41.that this kind of vote by the public should have been more reflected in

:51:42. > :51:46.this chamber so they need a voice today. I spoke to a great m`ny

:51:47. > :51:49.people and I listen to the `rguments for Remain including the colpelling

:51:50. > :51:53.ones being made by Jeremy Corbyn and I studied the left-wing casd for

:51:54. > :51:57.Leave and one reason I felt compelled to contribute to the

:51:58. > :52:02.previous debate was that I believe the opinions of those who wdre

:52:03. > :52:06.voting Leave for democracy, workers' rights and stopping privatisation of

:52:07. > :52:10.public services and they deserved expression in this chamber. The 1

:52:11. > :52:13.million voters in Scotland who chose Leave did so in the sure knowledge

:52:14. > :52:15.that this referendum was right across the UK and every single vote

:52:16. > :52:30.counted on its own merit, whether you were in Blackpool

:52:31. > :52:32.or Belfast, Cardiff or Coatbridge, London or Lossiemouth. Therd was no

:52:33. > :52:34.question that regional country results would be treated differently

:52:35. > :52:37.to the overall results. We had a democratic vote here in 2014 with an

:52:38. > :52:40.unprecedented turnout that leans we are part of the UK and that was only

:52:41. > :52:44.a Scottish boat but the democracy of that is being set aside. Thhs

:52:45. > :52:49.referendum vote was conductdd right across the UK and over 1 million

:52:50. > :52:53.voters in Scotland who chosd Leave deserved reputation and thex don't

:52:54. > :52:58.deserve to be disenfranchisdd. With regard to Remain voters it hs clear

:52:59. > :53:02.it was a UK wide vote based on the UK's relationship with the DU so in

:53:03. > :53:09.terms of the motion I cannot vote to welcome the overwhelming vote of the

:53:10. > :53:13.people of Scotland to bow to Remain since I voted Leave and the overall

:53:14. > :53:19.premise is flawed. The ballot paper did not ask if you wanted Scotland

:53:20. > :53:24.to remain in the EU and there was an majority of people here who voted

:53:25. > :53:28.for the UK to remain. There was a degree of ambivalence as Scotland

:53:29. > :53:32.have the second lowest turnout from across the UK. Just over 1 lillion

:53:33. > :53:36.people in Scotland voted for the UK to leave the EU and they did so with

:53:37. > :53:42.little support for their vidw in this Parliament, indeed all parties

:53:43. > :53:46.and leaders were pushing very hard for Remain. Furthermore those voters

:53:47. > :53:51.contributed substantially to the end you the outcome of a Leave vote If

:53:52. > :53:55.they had all voted for Remahn then the outcome would have been very

:53:56. > :53:59.different so Scotland certahnly contributed to the overall result.

:54:00. > :54:02.In some areas the boat was tight and maybe that is due to things like a

:54:03. > :54:05.controversial Common fisherhes policy that has contributed to the

:54:06. > :54:09.demise of our fishing industry. These kind of failures in ET policy

:54:10. > :54:20.might be just one of the re`sons that some people across the country

:54:21. > :54:22.chose to vote Leave and to say that much of the result in this

:54:23. > :54:24.referendum was predicated on the xenophobic intolerance is a wee bit

:54:25. > :54:27.simplistic. However there is no doubt that Ukip exploiting such

:54:28. > :54:31.sentiments where they do exhst, for their own ends and the disgraceful

:54:32. > :54:35.and now infamous poster now put out by Nigel Farage and Ukip certainly

:54:36. > :54:39.had a hand in changing the linds of some socialists who had been

:54:40. > :54:47.inclined to vote Leave. I agree with the sentiment and the motion that

:54:48. > :54:53.the EU citizens living here are welcomed a contribution ballot and

:54:54. > :54:57.that is important to send ott but if anyone implies that all votdrs were

:54:58. > :55:00.xenophobic racist then that would be outrageous and I hope most lembers

:55:01. > :55:06.in this chamber do not belidve it or ever impolite. Many of the

:55:07. > :55:10.working-class thing communities in south-east Wales and North Scotland

:55:11. > :55:14.voted Leave as an expression of disconnect with the whole political

:55:15. > :55:18.elite. In south Wales the threat of 4000 jobs being lost at Port Talbot

:55:19. > :55:24.as a direct result of EU st`ted rules blocking more governmdnt

:55:25. > :55:27.support could have influencdd the results. I want is down with

:55:28. > :55:32.steelworkers workers the EU stance on competition policy has mdant that

:55:33. > :55:36.national governments face a backlash of legal action if they attdmpt to

:55:37. > :55:39.nationalising industry. Think about this, not being subject to

:55:40. > :55:43.competition policy and legal challenge would mean that otr

:55:44. > :55:46.Scottish Government could e`sily nationalise industries like steel if

:55:47. > :55:50.they wished and they wouldn't have too returned to Cal Mac in future.

:55:51. > :55:53.What we should be focusing on are the important issues of stopping

:55:54. > :55:57.austerity, protecting workers' rights and jobs and the First

:55:58. > :56:00.Minister should be entering her discussions within the UK and out

:56:01. > :56:02.with bearing in mind that she represents all the citizens of

:56:03. > :56:18.Scotland, those who voted to remain, those who voted to

:56:19. > :56:21.leave and those who didn't vote and I do note her earlier comments on

:56:22. > :56:23.that. At this time she can't lose sight of domestic issues like

:56:24. > :56:25.teachers, industrial action, RMT strike, the NHS. The EU is not

:56:26. > :56:27.Europe, it's a political construct that undermines elected nathonal

:56:28. > :56:29.governments and it eliminatds democracy and it is primarily a

:56:30. > :56:32.trade agreement. In the words of Tony Benn on how the EU is

:56:33. > :56:36.developing, it was very obvhous that what they had in mind was not

:56:37. > :56:39.democratic. I am in favour of democracy, well so am I. We should

:56:40. > :56:45.all now respect the democratic mandate from the UK elector`te which

:56:46. > :56:50.included the 1 million Scottish Leave voters. The citizens of the UK

:56:51. > :56:54.through the ballot box has given directive of change through the EU

:56:55. > :56:57.project which has clearly f`iled many of them. Many of them see it as

:56:58. > :57:01.a victory of people against profit and the powerless against the

:57:02. > :57:07.powerful and we need to makd it work for them. John Foster had a view of

:57:08. > :57:10.leaving the EU, a renewed ddmocracy, restored welfare state, public

:57:11. > :57:16.control of the economy, our vision to combat racism, cynicism `nd

:57:17. > :57:23.division and unite all workhng people and that is my vision. We

:57:24. > :57:27.need to make this work for working people and that is the most

:57:28. > :57:30.important aim, and that is with the UK Socialist Labour governmdnt fight

:57:31. > :57:39.against austerity government and attacks on wages and workers'

:57:40. > :57:48.rights. Before I start I just want to say

:57:49. > :57:52.that I know Oliver is a new MSP but he is an MSP. You are here to

:57:53. > :57:56.represent the people of Scotland, not the UK Government. The people of

:57:57. > :58:00.Scotland spoke quite clearlx last Thursday and I think what you should

:58:01. > :58:04.be doing, and your colleaguds, is you should be standing up for them.

:58:05. > :58:09.I am a bit disappointed that I have to make some of the same colments to

:58:10. > :58:12.my colleague on the right-h`nd side, Elaine Smith. Honestly, if xou think

:58:13. > :58:17.the workers are going to be better off under Nigel and Boris, then it

:58:18. > :58:25.is a strange socialism that you believe in. I think, presidhng

:58:26. > :58:30.office, I finished by saying the workers would be better off with a

:58:31. > :58:38.Socialist Labour government. And I would be better off being 24 years

:58:39. > :58:42.old, six foot tall and blond haired! In the 20 years I have been involved

:58:43. > :58:46.in the S I have learned to deal with disappointments. I was

:58:47. > :58:50.heartbroken over the 2014 rdferendum result but I was able to take

:58:51. > :58:53.encouragement from the positivity that the campaign generated at the

:58:54. > :58:57.prospect of Holyrood achievhng additional powers in Scotland

:58:58. > :59:01.becoming engaged with the Ddmocratic participatory process in a way I

:59:02. > :59:06.never saw before. Sadly I h`ve no such positive outlook in thd wake of

:59:07. > :59:10.this result. This saw claims retracted within hours of the

:59:11. > :59:14.results, a result one by gohng to the basest politics I have seen in

:59:15. > :59:18.any campaign in my life and politicians who took part in that

:59:19. > :59:22.should be ashamed of themselves Both campaigns ran scare tactics.

:59:23. > :59:27.The remain campaign came out with the project fear figures th`t we saw

:59:28. > :59:30.in the independence referendum and the Leave campaign came out with the

:59:31. > :59:37.lowest form of politics havd ever seen. The SNP warned against running

:59:38. > :59:40.a negative campaign and we saw that it was counter-productive and a more

:59:41. > :59:45.positive you are the better result you will get and we saw that in 2014

:59:46. > :59:47.and if they had run a campahgn like that and so the benefits of

:59:48. > :59:50.immigration instead of runnhng scared from the benefits of

:59:51. > :59:53.immigration at the time it was mentioned, then maybe we wotldn t be

:59:54. > :59:59.standing here today discusshng what we are discussing. I would like to

:00:00. > :00:02.concentrate on the possible impact on education thanks to this result

:00:03. > :00:09.but first let me read a twedt that was sent to the First Minister

:00:10. > :00:13.yesterday. Daughter graduatds on Thursday, internship with Mhlan firm

:00:14. > :00:17.just cancelled, sole reason given, Brexit. That right there is the

:00:18. > :00:21.reality of the vote. I would like to express my thanks to the prhnciples

:00:22. > :00:27.of vice chancellors who madd unequivocal statements on the value

:00:28. > :00:37.of EU students and their wider contribution to Scottish culture. It

:00:38. > :00:42.is clear academic collaboration is still required and they will still

:00:43. > :00:46.collaborate in the Erasmus plan and I congratulate him as being

:00:47. > :00:51.appointed as the chair of the standing Council of experts. Sir Ian

:00:52. > :00:53.Diamond from Glasgow has given his thanks to the contribution of EU

:00:54. > :00:57.students and given a clear commitment to current students and

:00:58. > :01:00.those set to join in the new academic year that any

:01:01. > :01:03.constitutional changes made during their studies that affects tuition

:01:04. > :01:08.fees will be financially provided for by the University. I also

:01:09. > :01:15.welcome a positive statement made by the president of NUS Scotland who

:01:16. > :01:18.said that Scotland's should not be ignored and it is crucial that the

:01:19. > :01:23.UK Government work with all devolved governments to mitigate the

:01:24. > :01:29.consequences. The EU students can come to Scotland to study, work and

:01:30. > :01:33.make cultural contributions is a dynamic and multicultural society

:01:34. > :01:34.and it should be applauded `nd not undermined. Scottish students cannot

:01:35. > :02:00.make their mark across the TK. The European structural fund for

:02:01. > :02:05.2014-20 has provided 940 million euros to invest the Scottish

:02:06. > :02:09.Government's priorities. Thd horizon 2020 has contributed 217 million

:02:10. > :02:13.euros into research and innovation. Like Wise the European soci`l funds

:02:14. > :02:16.commitment to the Princes trust addressing disadvantaged through

:02:17. > :02:20.team project, this project has been instrumental in providing stpport to

:02:21. > :02:23.many young people in overcole ago range of challenges, lower

:02:24. > :02:27.educational attainment, lack of training or a lack of confidence.

:02:28. > :02:31.It's helped to assist in eqtipping over 4,000 young people with skills

:02:32. > :02:34.to achieve their ambitions. All of these are potentially at risk

:02:35. > :02:38.because of the unnecessary `nd damaging referendum and outcome I

:02:39. > :02:43.alluded to the uncertainty created. I wish to congratulate the First

:02:44. > :02:46.Minister for the way she's handled everything since Friday morning

:02:47. > :02:50.since we knew the result. The Scottish Cabinet met on Sattrday to

:02:51. > :02:55.take decisive action. Boris played cricket and Westminster fiddled I

:02:56. > :02:57.agree it's vital to have ongoing discussions with stakeholders and

:02:58. > :03:02.wish the advisory panel every success. In concluding my rdmarks, I

:03:03. > :03:06.want to join the others in thanking the EU citizens here in Scotland, I

:03:07. > :03:09.have a number of them in my own constituency and there's many in the

:03:10. > :03:12.First Minister's neighbouring constituency. Again thank the many

:03:13. > :03:15.educational professionals and experts who have given what

:03:16. > :03:18.reassurance they can to EU students. I warmly support the Scottish

:03:19. > :03:21.Government's efforts in tryhng to secure a continued involvemdnt in

:03:22. > :03:26.the EU and of course the single market. But earlier I mentioned a

:03:27. > :03:32.tweet by a mother of a young student, here is a second tweet All

:03:33. > :03:37.future collaborations, exch`nges and internships for EU citizens across

:03:38. > :03:41.the EU are under threat. Shd then asks us to retweet, I would say get

:03:42. > :03:43.that message out there as soon as you can. These tweets say as much

:03:44. > :03:48.about what a disaster Thursday's vote is for young men and women from

:03:49. > :03:53.across the UK, not just Scotland, as anything I have heard or re`d. These

:03:54. > :03:56.are the real life consequences of Brexit, not some ridiculous abstract

:03:57. > :03:58.about taking back control. Not much control of the future for these

:03:59. > :04:07.young people, is there? I stpport the motion.

:04:08. > :04:12.APPLAUSE Two weeks ago my sister movdd to

:04:13. > :04:17.Valencia. Spain is a countrx she fell in love with many years ago and

:04:18. > :04:21.one she has since studied in, learned the language, soaked up the

:04:22. > :04:26.culture and made many friends and now, like many Scots, has ddcided to

:04:27. > :04:30.make her home. The kind welcome she has received has been wonderful to

:04:31. > :04:34.witness. It is the same welcoming spirit which I believe the lajority

:04:35. > :04:39.of people who have come to live and work in Scotland have also dnjoyed.

:04:40. > :04:42.For those non-UK citizens who have come to live and work in our

:04:43. > :04:47.country, and those who have married Scots and have made Scotland their

:04:48. > :04:51.home, let us send out the mdssage today their contribution to our

:04:52. > :04:56.economy and country is valudd and one we will work to protect. As

:04:57. > :05:00.members will know I activelx campaigned in the Remain vote here

:05:01. > :05:04.in Scotland and wanted to sde the whole UK confirm its membership of

:05:05. > :05:09.the EU. I am very aware of the disappointment of many of mx

:05:10. > :05:13.constituents across the reghon, including Edinburgh which s`w the

:05:14. > :05:17.highest Remain vote anywherd across Scotland. Many of them have

:05:18. > :05:22.contacted me as well as othdr MSPs since to express their regrdt and

:05:23. > :05:27.concern at the decision takdn by the whole UK. But as a Democrat, I

:05:28. > :05:31.accept the result of the referendum. This is what democracy is all about.

:05:32. > :05:35.How we put our arguments to the people and the manner by whhch we

:05:36. > :05:39.live by their decisions. It is now incumbent on all parties across the

:05:40. > :05:43.UK and all nations within the United Kingdom to seek stability and work

:05:44. > :05:47.towards achieving the best possible deal for the whole of the UK. While

:05:48. > :05:51.the First Minister's immedi`te reaction to the EU referendtm was to

:05:52. > :05:55.put a second independence rdferendum on the table, the constituents and

:05:56. > :06:00.businesses who have contactdd me over the past few days have

:06:01. > :06:03.overwhelmingly said that thhs threat of another independence refdrendum

:06:04. > :06:11.is exactly the last thing Scotland needs at this point in time. And I

:06:12. > :06:14.agree. We will now face critical negotiations that will determine our

:06:15. > :06:19.new relationship with the countries that make up the EU the aim must be

:06:20. > :06:22.to protect and maximise Scottish trade within the European Union area

:06:23. > :06:30.and ensure continued access to our single market. I believe it's vital

:06:31. > :06:32.that the United Kingdom looks at all options, including the economic -

:06:33. > :06:37.the European economic area `nd that would continue to provide free

:06:38. > :06:41.movement of persons, goods, services and capital within the EU. Xes. I am

:06:42. > :06:47.grateful to the member for giving way. Does he acknowledge th`t such a

:06:48. > :06:50.proposition, even though it's not my first option, would involve a

:06:51. > :06:52.substantial financial contrhbution along the lines of the currdnt

:06:53. > :06:56.financial contribution to bding members of the European Union and

:06:57. > :07:00.therefore gives the lie to those who claim that there will be ?340

:07:01. > :07:04.million a week to spend on the NHS? Yes, I would. We are actually at the

:07:05. > :07:11.point where early negotiations would have to look at all of that. The EAA

:07:12. > :07:14.model works well for Norway, Lichtsteiner and Iceland and that's

:07:15. > :07:18.maybe where we will have to move forward on. Further, for our

:07:19. > :07:23.European partners let us never forget they will always rem`in our

:07:24. > :07:27.partners. This is as much in their economic interests to put together a

:07:28. > :07:33.tariff-free trading relationship, for all our futures. Maintahning and

:07:34. > :07:35.extending fair and non-discriminatory access to export

:07:36. > :07:39.markets by negotiating new trade deals with a wide range of partners

:07:40. > :07:42.will be essential to support many key Scottish industries. Securing

:07:43. > :07:48.the best possible commercial environment for Scottish businesses

:07:49. > :07:52.is vital, from the Scottish risk to the industry which represents 1 % of

:07:53. > :07:56.all Scottish exports, to thd EU and also a financial services sdctor.

:07:57. > :08:02.Edinburgh has been an international centre for banking for over 300

:08:03. > :08:06.years. The financial sector is of national importance with direct

:08:07. > :08:11.links between Scotland, the City of London and other EU financi`l

:08:12. > :08:14.markets. Britain has 2. 2 mhllion jobs linked to the financial service

:08:15. > :08:19.industry with around 35,000 of those based here in Edinburgh alone. The

:08:20. > :08:25.city remains the UK's second largest financial hub and this must be

:08:26. > :08:29.protected and nurtured. I al particularly aware - I am rtnning

:08:30. > :08:34.out of time. I am aware so lany young people backed the Rem`in

:08:35. > :08:38.campaign and reassuring thel and working how we can guaranted their

:08:39. > :08:41.economic future must be also a key priority. Young Scots want to have

:08:42. > :08:45.the opportunities to work across Europe. Our young people take an

:08:46. > :08:50.internationalist view and wd need to make sure that they have thd

:08:51. > :08:55.opportunity to study, work `nd travel like before. I accept there

:08:56. > :08:59.is economic uncertainty for many Scottish businesses, as we prepare

:09:00. > :09:03.for a new Prime Minister, and as we prepare for a new Prime Minhster who

:09:04. > :09:06.will formally lead these negotiations, I think it's hmportant

:09:07. > :09:10.that we as a parliament set out a clear message and we send the

:09:11. > :09:14.message out that Scotland is open for business. I believe we remain

:09:15. > :09:19.one of the best countries to start a business and invest and we will

:09:20. > :09:22.always have our greatest asset to attract investors and busindsses to

:09:23. > :09:26.locate to Scotland, our people. In the coming days, weeks and lonths

:09:27. > :09:32.and years our nations will face many challenges. Now is the time for us

:09:33. > :09:40.to work to secure the best deal for Scotland and the United Kingdom

:09:41. > :09:43.Thank you. The practical implications of the decision to

:09:44. > :09:47.leave the EU are potentiallx massive. It will be weeks, probably

:09:48. > :09:50.months, before the full scale of the impact emerges and already there is

:09:51. > :09:56.great concern amongst busindsses large and small with all thd

:09:57. > :09:59.implications that Haass alrdady highlighted. Brexit and its possible

:10:00. > :10:03.consequences is creating genuine worry over the future viability of

:10:04. > :10:07.some businesses in my own constituency. Within a mattdr of

:10:08. > :10:12.hours of the outcome of the referendum I have been approached by

:10:13. > :10:16.a senior representative of ` farmers co-operative with a annual turnover

:10:17. > :10:21.of around ?40 million. To tdll me of their real worries. They employ

:10:22. > :10:29.around 4,000 people across Scotland. Most on a seasonal basis but around

:10:30. > :10:33.10% on full-time management drawn from all over European Europe.

:10:34. > :10:36.Without their efforts the btsiness could not function. Soft frtit is

:10:37. > :10:42.part of the success story that is Scottish food and drink and here it

:10:43. > :10:46.is at best confronted by a very real uncertainty. They are presshng to

:10:47. > :10:50.have concerns over future access to the workforce they're dependent upon

:10:51. > :10:54.taken on board and are far from alone as businesses in the TK come

:10:55. > :10:57.to terms with the horrific consequences of a decision Scotland

:10:58. > :11:01.as a nation has expressed at the ballot box finds itself at odds

:11:02. > :11:05.with. These are the potenti`l practical implications of Brexit.

:11:06. > :11:09.What of the people caught in its crossfire? Some of the European

:11:10. > :11:12.European folk who over the xears have come to work in agriculture

:11:13. > :11:17.have ended up making lives there, bringing families, marrying Scots,

:11:18. > :11:20.going to college to upskill themselves or gain qualific`tions

:11:21. > :11:25.needed to bring education b`ck home to play to get better jobs. It's

:11:26. > :11:28.become their home and after a campaign disgustingly domin`ted by

:11:29. > :11:32.the issue of immigration and let's acknowledge this racism, thdy are

:11:33. > :11:36.worried. It's not just people from European Europe. Browsing social

:11:37. > :11:40.media I chanced upon a thought-provoking post from a

:11:41. > :11:44.Dutchman. A health professional who happens to practise skills hn my

:11:45. > :11:48.constituency. Because he spoke so eloquently and from a standpoint

:11:49. > :11:52.view of us genuinely grasp let me quote what he said, I have lived in

:11:53. > :11:56.the UK and Scotland since I came here from the Netherlands whth my

:11:57. > :11:59.parents in 1979. I am about as integrated as it's possible to be. I

:12:00. > :12:03.was educated here. I have a family here. I practise a good carder here

:12:04. > :12:07.and I believe I krnt to the community in which I live, H speak

:12:08. > :12:11.the language and I understand the culture and engage with polhtics, I

:12:12. > :12:16.love the heritage and history and stunning scenery and the people the

:12:17. > :12:21.warmth and humour and essential decency. The fact I am not ` British

:12:22. > :12:26.citizen meant I did not ghetto a vote, I could watch and participate,

:12:27. > :12:31.occasionally wade with bad grace into a Facebook discussion that

:12:32. > :12:37.irritated me and grow alarmdd as the conversation slowly became lore

:12:38. > :12:41.zenophobic. Ultimately I and others resident here did not get a chance

:12:42. > :12:45.to influence the country. The conflict I felt and in the wake of

:12:46. > :12:49.the vote to leave the EU fedl more acutely centres on the fact as the

:12:50. > :12:53.referendum made immigration the main issue and framed the EU as pesky

:12:54. > :12:58.foreigners imposing scheming ways on the UK I felt it was out of place

:12:59. > :13:03.for me to intrude on your great national but internal debatd even

:13:04. > :13:06.though the decision to leavd the EU will have us unclear but allost

:13:07. > :13:10.certainly detrimental effect on my future in the UK. In the big scheme

:13:11. > :13:13.of things my discomfort is no big deal. I don't know what rights I

:13:14. > :13:16.will lose, what services I will have to start paying for, whether I will

:13:17. > :13:20.have to go through a differdnt gate at the UK airport than my khds. Time

:13:21. > :13:26.will tell. There are much bhgger things at stake. Soon when the UK

:13:27. > :13:28.leaves the union the separation will be complete and irreversibld, we

:13:29. > :13:34.will have lost common vision, the economic benefits of the market and

:13:35. > :13:38.the framework that protects and the common endeavour to peace, `nd

:13:39. > :13:43.workers and human rights. Against all that the blow to my identity and

:13:44. > :13:54.sense of my own place in thd UK becoming more per-I have ald and

:13:55. > :13:58.fragile important but - livd. I am not merely a res department in

:13:59. > :14:02.Britain, specifically I livd in Scotland, that special part of the

:14:03. > :14:08.UK that's shown by voting to remain in the EU that it doesn't bty in a

:14:09. > :14:13.the cynical, petty, zenophobic Faragism of some of the othdr parts.

:14:14. > :14:17.Nor does it seem to believe sovereignty, the ability to

:14:18. > :14:20.determine yir own national `ffairs is incompatible from transn`tion

:14:21. > :14:29.co-operation and inte gags with a small I. The make-up of the current

:14:30. > :14:31.parliament shows the people share a optimistic and environmentally

:14:32. > :14:34.responsible inclusive vision of society which is absolutely and

:14:35. > :14:40.resolutely suited to providhng answers to the problems of the ist

:14:41. > :14:43.century and stands in total contrast to the small minded nationalism of

:14:44. > :14:45.the leave campaign. Whether it's in Nicola Sturgeon and the Scottish

:14:46. > :14:49.Government's powers to keep Scotland in the EU or not remains to be seen

:14:50. > :14:53.but a moment of shock and insecurity the First Minister said words that I

:14:54. > :14:58.suspect a lot of EU nationals who have made this country their home

:14:59. > :15:04.and certainly I needed to hdar. They want policy or even promises, they

:15:05. > :15:07.can't possibly know what will be delivered post-Brexit but what she

:15:08. > :15:10.reached in a spirit of generosity demonstrates why hope is not lost,

:15:11. > :15:15.not just for European immigrants but for everyone who wants to lhve in a

:15:16. > :15:19.progressive and inclusive country that is a fully committed p`rt of

:15:20. > :15:22.the European Union. Colleagtes, a decision time tonight let's join the

:15:23. > :15:28.First Minister in reaching out to our Dutch friend and others like him

:15:29. > :15:31.and demonstrate we value thd contribution to Scotland th`t they

:15:32. > :15:41.make just as much as we do our country's place in the EU.

:15:42. > :15:46.Like almost every member of this Parliament and an overwhelmhng

:15:47. > :15:50.majority of those who voted in Scotland on Thursday, this hs not a

:15:51. > :15:54.position I wanted to be in. Scotland is and the European nation `nd the

:15:55. > :16:00.people of Scotland have madd their views quite clear. They intdnd, we

:16:01. > :16:03.intend, on remaining Europe`n citizens. We want to see thd

:16:04. > :16:08.protections for workers, wolen, parents and the environment continue

:16:09. > :16:12.to affect us. We appreciate the opportunities that freedom of

:16:13. > :16:15.movement gives us, not just as a nation in need of a growing

:16:16. > :16:19.population, but as individu`ls. We have no plans to leave the Duropean

:16:20. > :16:23.Union and it is only right that we exhaust every option open to us in

:16:24. > :16:27.pursuit of that outcome. Thd support that reaches across almost `ll of

:16:28. > :16:32.this chamber today for such efforts will be welcomed by those that we

:16:33. > :16:35.represent. These support, of course extends beyond the chamber `nd

:16:36. > :16:51.across the continent. Senior politicians

:16:52. > :16:54.from across the liberal, Conservative and green tradhtions

:16:55. > :16:56.have all indicated a willingness to secure Scotland's future in Europe.

:16:57. > :16:58.In the course of this debatd I received the following from the

:16:59. > :17:00.co-chairs of the European Green Alliance in the European Parliament,

:17:01. > :17:03.whilst it is clear that the majority of UK public have voted to leave the

:17:04. > :17:06.EU, far greater majorities voting to remain in Scotland and Northern

:17:07. > :17:08.Ireland must be listened to as well. The Greens in the European

:17:09. > :17:10.Parliament are a strong supporter of the EU and will support exploring

:17:11. > :17:14.all options to allow Scotland and Northern Ireland to remain hn the EU

:17:15. > :17:18.as they have clearly voted to do. We still have a role to play in

:17:19. > :17:22.reforming Europe and building on the successes and failures of the

:17:23. > :17:28.European project. Huge challenges still face us as a continent,

:17:29. > :17:31.challenges that we can only face together. 57,000 refugees stranded

:17:32. > :17:37.within Europe and Greece and over 700 drowned in the last week of May

:17:38. > :17:41.alone, trying to reach our shores. May was the 13th month on rdcord

:17:42. > :17:46.where temperature levels were again broken. The result of that being the

:17:47. > :17:58.kind of extreme weather that only causes extreme

:17:59. > :18:02.misery, not just those in Etrope, suffering from extreme flooding and

:18:03. > :18:05.dangers and coastal erosion but to the many millions elsewhere who will

:18:06. > :18:07.be left with no other option but to flee to our shores. Unless we take

:18:08. > :18:09.collective action that will be a refugee crisis many times greater

:18:10. > :18:12.than the ones we are currently failing to deal with. Whilst the UK

:18:13. > :18:15.as a whole has clearly decided to take a different path that will make

:18:16. > :18:17.it less able to contribute to tackling these crises, Scotland has

:18:18. > :18:21.said that we intend to stay, to continue playing our part. One of

:18:22. > :18:24.the United Kingdom may be hdading towards a Conservative government

:18:25. > :18:27.far to the right of the one we currently suffer under, people here

:18:28. > :18:32.have clearly said they valud the protections afforded to us `ll as

:18:33. > :18:35.European citizens, protections from overwork and dangerous workhng

:18:36. > :18:39.conditions, guarantees of m`ternity leave and equal pay for equ`l work,

:18:40. > :18:59.and some, although not nearly enough

:19:00. > :19:01.regulation of our financial sector. The work required to continte these

:19:02. > :19:04.benefits and ensure that Scotland can continue to play our part in

:19:05. > :19:06.Europe will be difficult. Wd are in an unprecedented situation `nd I

:19:07. > :19:08.welcome the Scottish Governlent commitment to cross-party working as

:19:09. > :19:11.well as the engagement of council experts. I am pleased to sed other

:19:12. > :19:13.parties have already made more commitments but I do have one

:19:14. > :19:15.specific request. Our young people benefit more than any other

:19:16. > :19:19.generation from the opportunities afforded to them and to us `s

:19:20. > :19:23.European citizens. The abilhty to live, work or study anywherd across

:19:24. > :19:26.the European Union, schemes such as Rasmus, are not something the

:19:27. > :19:31.Scottish people are willing to lose. I am aware of a letter from the

:19:32. > :19:34.First Minister's opt -- offhce that has gone to the youth Parli`ment

:19:35. > :19:38.which gives them a formal role in the discussions to follow. Given the

:19:39. > :19:42.SNP's unit mandate to represent young people I believe this is not

:19:43. > :19:46.just a reasonable request btt a necessary step and I hope the First

:19:47. > :19:50.Minister will agree. Shortlx before this debate I addressed a r`lly

:19:51. > :19:53.outside the parliament with hundreds of people assembled and thehr

:19:54. > :20:00.message could not have been clearer. They expect us to do all we can to

:20:01. > :20:03.exhaust every option to guarantee their rights to keep Scotland in

:20:04. > :20:08.Europe and I am confident that we will do just that. It is no secret

:20:09. > :20:12.which option my party prefer, one that we would have preferred,

:20:13. > :20:15.regardless of the outcome of the referendum, but that takes on a new

:20:16. > :20:19.urgency and its aftermath. H believe the only way to guarantee Scotland's

:20:20. > :20:23.long-term future in Europe hs to put our future in our own hands, for

:20:24. > :20:36.Scotland to become an indepdndent nation. Whether the Conserv`tives

:20:37. > :20:40.like it or not, the United Kingdom they argued for in 2014 and longer

:20:41. > :20:42.exists. It is clear that thd arguments they made, that the only

:20:43. > :20:45.way to guarantee EU membership was to vote no and that argument was no

:20:46. > :20:48.longer applies. This UK is very different to last week and ht is

:20:49. > :20:50.only right that the people of Scotland, if necessary and they want

:20:51. > :20:53.it, once again make a collective choice about our future. Today is a

:20:54. > :20:57.day for us to come together as a Parliament and look at everx option

:20:58. > :21:00.available to us, and while H am very keen to explore options short of

:21:01. > :21:04.independence, it would be rdmiss of me not to be honest about mx

:21:05. > :21:07.position. I believe that an independent Scotland, with ` seat at

:21:08. > :21:19.the European table, would provide the most opportunities for our young

:21:20. > :21:22.people and allow us to play the greatest rock possible of f`cing up

:21:23. > :21:24.to the well's crisis, and I believe with independence we can crdate a

:21:25. > :21:27.fairer and more just and prosperous society that we all want to see

:21:28. > :21:30.This week we begin a deeply uncertain process to clarifx

:21:31. > :21:34.Scotland's future in Europe. We could still have the support of all

:21:35. > :21:37.five parties in this parlialent if the Tories can bring themselves to

:21:38. > :21:41.support the responsible reasonable proposals from the government. Few

:21:42. > :21:45.of us wanted to be in this position today but we must work with what we

:21:46. > :21:48.have got and we must do everything we can to respect the mandate of the

:21:49. > :22:02.people in Scotland. We must keep in Europe.

:22:03. > :22:08.The will of the Scottish people and that of Northern Ireland, London and

:22:09. > :22:12.other parts of the UK must be respected in relation to our

:22:13. > :22:16.position in the European Unhon. This will take time and we must dxpect

:22:17. > :22:20.the European Commission to give respect to the complexities of the

:22:21. > :22:23.negotiations ahead. We must not allow the EU leaders of othdr

:22:24. > :22:28.countries to rush any exit process in a bid to shut down right,wing

:22:29. > :22:33.arguments in their own countries, much as we understand the

:22:34. > :22:38.complexities of that as well. This afternoon I want to focus p`rtly on

:22:39. > :22:42.my brief of environment and climate change and highlight that wd need to

:22:43. > :22:48.protect what is precious in our own legislation which has come from the

:22:49. > :22:50.European Union. I asked the Scottish Government to consider environmental

:22:51. > :22:55.protection in addition to the social, employment and economic

:22:56. > :22:58.benefits in its motion todax. The Cabinet Secretary's evidencd before

:22:59. > :23:02.the environment, climate ch`nge and land reform committee this lorning

:23:03. > :23:07.gave some reassurance on thdse matters. Her explanation th`t the

:23:08. > :23:11.Scottish Government's starthng point would be co-operation across

:23:12. > :23:22.national boundaries, and of course regulatory bodies here in Scotland

:23:23. > :23:24.would continue to protect us. She also commented that it was `bout an

:23:25. > :23:26.understanding of our exposure. I agree with this. We must ask

:23:27. > :23:30.ourselves what came from EU directives? Is the legislathon

:23:31. > :23:33.devolved or reserved? What hs now enshrined in Scottish Parli`ment

:23:34. > :23:37.legislation? EU directives `re not about bureaucracy or red tape, as

:23:38. > :23:40.some in the league campaign would argue, this is about directhves that

:23:41. > :23:46.were forged collectively to protect us all. The chair of the UK climate

:23:47. > :23:50.change committee has said that Europe is about gaining sovdreignty

:23:51. > :23:54.as it allows us to face environmental issues. Let's look to

:23:55. > :24:00.see if we can, indeed, in some way retain the membership and those

:24:01. > :24:03.benefits. As to the process, if it comes to it, of dissident whining

:24:04. > :24:06.ourselves from Europe here hn Scotland, and whatever speed it

:24:07. > :24:11.moves, we must argue that wd must fight against any moves to weaken or

:24:12. > :24:24.repeal environmental protection The legislation from protect those in

:24:25. > :24:26.our communities who are most in need of support, communities havd built

:24:27. > :24:27.dislocated left behind. The ambient air quality directive identhfies

:24:28. > :24:30.air-quality zones to tackle dangers to health from traffic emissions.

:24:31. > :24:33.About 4000 people across thd UK still die of air pollution dach year

:24:34. > :24:37.at the enactment of this legislation is better protecting people in

:24:38. > :24:43.Glasgow and other cities across Scotland. The water framework

:24:44. > :24:50.directive was introduced in 200 and transposed into Scots law as the

:24:51. > :24:54.water environment and services act in 2003. And it has ensured the

:24:55. > :24:58.quality of our drinking watdr and reggae sour sewage systems for the

:24:59. > :25:03.benefit people and the environment. Scotland has a high quality water

:25:04. > :25:06.environment that is important to our health and well-being and it

:25:07. > :25:10.supports a rich diversity of wildlife and attracts visitors and

:25:11. > :25:15.supports sustainable development of our economy. I also recall when some

:25:16. > :25:18.of Scotland's beaches were not somewhere I would want to t`ke my

:25:19. > :25:21.children but now, thanks to the implementation of the bathing water

:25:22. > :25:26.directive I can happily takd my grandson to any beach here hn

:25:27. > :25:31.Scotland without thinking twice The Marine protected areas enacted by

:25:32. > :25:34.the Marine Scotland act, dud to international obligations under the

:25:35. > :25:38.EU marine strategy framework directive that calls for good

:25:39. > :25:42.environmental status throughout Europe's marine areas. The birds and

:25:43. > :25:45.Habitat directive also calls for a network of protected areas. All

:25:46. > :25:51.these EU directives have bedn instrumental in benefiting the

:25:52. > :25:53.health of our seas, protecthng the livelihoods of those who fish in

:25:54. > :25:58.them and those of future generations. On climate change I

:25:59. > :26:03.would take issue with Willid Rennie. It is essential that we continue to

:26:04. > :26:06.work with EU countries to protect present and future generations.

:26:07. > :26:11.Scotland is, indeed, a glob`l leader, in the UK and the ET, and

:26:12. > :26:14.globally we are at a time when America and China are presshng for

:26:15. > :26:28.coordination. It is also essential that the range of funding that came

:26:29. > :26:30.from the EU to Scotland is protected. In my brief, for example,

:26:31. > :26:32.there is recent support for an offshore wind farm which received

:26:33. > :26:34.?525 million from the Europdan investment bank, supported by the

:26:35. > :26:37.European fund for strategic investments. It is the single

:26:38. > :26:43.largest investment by the ET and brings with it many jobs in

:26:44. > :26:47.Caithness. This kind of support as we transition to a low carbon

:26:48. > :26:53.economy is essential, so let us make sure that we assess how we can

:26:54. > :26:59.protect this funding for thd future. With 75% of young people voting UK

:27:00. > :27:02.wide to remain, we have a responsibility to ensure th`t the

:27:03. > :27:08.Tories kept open to possibld future membership of the EU. So many young

:27:09. > :27:11.people understand the cultural, educational and social links and

:27:12. > :27:15.opportunities that EU membership has brought. Many have been lucky enough

:27:16. > :27:19.to travel or work in Europe or have the advantage of educational

:27:20. > :27:23.exchanges and support such `s the Rasmus scheme and as was highlighted

:27:24. > :27:32.earlier this is very import`nt for the future. Lewis Douglas wrote to

:27:33. > :27:36.me yesterday to say that following the EU referendum on Thursd`y and

:27:37. > :27:40.the United Kingdom's momentous decision, it will have a defining

:27:41. > :27:43.impact on the future of where our country is going now. Most

:27:44. > :27:48.importantly this decision whll have a defining impact on young people's

:27:49. > :27:55.future. Unfortunately the 16 and 17-year-olds were denied thd right

:27:56. > :27:58.to vote. I am writing to yot this afternoon to ask for your stpport to

:27:59. > :28:02.ensure that young people's voices are heard. The Scottish youth

:28:03. > :28:05.Parliament this afternoon h`s called on the First Minister to include

:28:06. > :28:09.young people in the next stdps for this country, following the decision

:28:10. > :28:14.to leave the European Union, helping to make our voices heard in shaping

:28:15. > :28:20.our future. I ask the First Minister to listen to this play this

:28:21. > :28:23.afternoon. Before I call Cl`ire Adamson can I remind members that we

:28:24. > :28:26.are going to winding up and if they took part in the debate thex should

:28:27. > :28:36.be in the chamber for winding up speeches. Can I welcome the First

:28:37. > :28:39.Minister's statement this afternoon and also the revealing of the

:28:40. > :28:44.setting up of the Council of experts which I think will be vital in

:28:45. > :28:52.securing a positive outcome for Scotland in the months and xears

:28:53. > :28:57.ahead. When we were discusshng Scottish independence in 2004 one of

:28:58. > :29:01.the members of that council event, David Edwards, gave evidencd to the

:29:02. > :29:05.European committee and in that evidence he said, personallx I hope

:29:06. > :29:10.very much that an issue of `n independent Scotland with a place in

:29:11. > :29:15.the EU will not arise, but the issue was important for the integrity of

:29:16. > :29:23.the EU and also the credibility of its institutions. It affects other

:29:24. > :29:28.countries as well. People are entitled to know, as far as

:29:29. > :29:32.possible, where they stand. We find ourselves in a similar situ`tion

:29:33. > :29:36.today. This is not what we would have wanted as a result of the

:29:37. > :29:43.referendum but we have to ddal with those consequences. In the Scottish

:29:44. > :29:49.independence debate we were hampered by not being able to get cl`rity in

:29:50. > :29:55.some of these key issues so I very much hope that David Cameron's offer

:29:56. > :29:59.to the Scottish Government to be included and be part of the

:30:00. > :30:05.negotiations ahead will include that when clarity is needed from the

:30:06. > :30:08.member state to approach thd European Union that that will now

:30:09. > :30:13.happen at the request of our First Minister.

:30:14. > :30:22.I am very, very disappointed that we are at this point because of what

:30:23. > :30:25.seems to be the Conservativd Party's petty and ill-conceived jealousies

:30:26. > :30:31.that seem to have been concdived in the Bullingdon club and that have

:30:32. > :30:39.brought the UK to the brink of an uncoupling from the EU. It's a

:30:40. > :30:48.tragedy worth of Shakespeardan epics. Our tragedy is that the Tory

:30:49. > :30:52.Party have lost the plot. They have left a void in leadership and

:30:53. > :30:57.Government at the most diffhcult time for our country but I `lso hold

:30:58. > :31:02.them responsible for the social inclusion void, a vacuum in the

:31:03. > :31:12.post-industrial communities similar to where I live and brass w`ut up.

:31:13. > :31:19.Communities where hope and ,- where I live and was brought up. That

:31:20. > :31:23.vanning home where the fears for the future, for fears for familhes have

:31:24. > :31:28.been exploited and used by those bent on division and blaming

:31:29. > :31:37.migration for the country's problems. Elaine Smith talkdd very

:31:38. > :31:40.carefully about how these communities feel powerless `nd

:31:41. > :31:44.disengaged from the politic`l process but no one has menthoned why

:31:45. > :31:46.there is such a difference hn the Scottish vote in these

:31:47. > :31:51.post-industrial areas than there is in the rest of the UK. Could it be

:31:52. > :31:56.that the rest of the UK hasn't been protected from the bedroom tax? It

:31:57. > :32:01.hasn't had its council rebate protected. The children havdn't been

:32:02. > :32:04.protected through the educational maintenance allowance being

:32:05. > :32:10.maintained. They don't have free personal care, free prescriptions or

:32:11. > :32:17.free education. I hold the Tory Party culpable for that vactum

:32:18. > :32:21.they've left in our communities APPLAUSE

:32:22. > :32:27.Presiding Officer, it was the closure of RavensCraig that brought

:32:28. > :32:31.me to the SNP and on a principle of independence within Europe. I look

:32:32. > :32:37.at my community which has sden a Government leave no stone unturned

:32:38. > :32:42.to protect our steel industry and has successfully done in securing

:32:43. > :32:47.liberty take over of the exhsting steel plants in Scotland. The rest

:32:48. > :32:54.of the UK have seen leadership from the Tory Party that is based on the

:32:55. > :32:58.market being all and I am stre that had Redcar, had Port Talbot had the

:32:59. > :33:06.same Government fighting for them that we had in Scotland things may

:33:07. > :33:10.have been so different in this vote. And that desperation of our

:33:11. > :33:14.communities has been sickenhngly exploited and is evidenced by that

:33:15. > :33:18.appalling breaking point poster that was released only a few days before

:33:19. > :33:24.the election. So the blame should lie with those who are culp`ble

:33:25. > :33:28.There is no pantomime villahn to blame for the problems in the UK,

:33:29. > :33:34.although Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson are making a good rtn for

:33:35. > :33:39.it. This has been a great tragedy for our country and I was appalled

:33:40. > :33:42.to hear the tale of one of ly constituents who received r`cist

:33:43. > :33:47.abuse from someone who had frequented his shop for years, never

:33:48. > :33:52.having displayed such sentilents, a family who work in our area, who

:33:53. > :33:56.live, their children and grandchildren live in my

:33:57. > :34:01.constituency. They employ pdople in my constituency, they fundr`ise for

:34:02. > :34:06.food banks and for our hosphce. They were told to go home leaving the

:34:07. > :34:11.expletives out. They are hole. That's what we should all rdmember.

:34:12. > :34:16.APPLAUSE Presiding Officer, I want to finish

:34:17. > :34:21.with a quote from Michael Rosen our children's laureate. I am stre he's

:34:22. > :34:26.taken us on a bear hunt in the past but this is from another podm. I

:34:27. > :34:30.sometimes fear people think fascism arrives in fancy dress and played

:34:31. > :34:36.out in the endless reruns of the Naz ies. Fascism arrive as your friend t

:34:37. > :34:41.will restore your honour, m`ke you feel proud, protect your hole, give

:34:42. > :34:47.you a job, clean up your neighbourhood, remind you of how

:34:48. > :34:52.great you once were, clear out the corrupt and move everything you feel

:34:53. > :34:57.is unlike you. I hope the whole country will reflect on those words

:34:58. > :35:09.because zenophobia and racism are no place in any solution going forward.

:35:10. > :35:14.Thank you. Six minutes or thereabouts, please. Yesterday

:35:15. > :35:18.Angela Merkel hosted a meethng with Francois Hollande in Berlin to

:35:19. > :35:23.consider the process of British withdrawal from the European Union.

:35:24. > :35:29.The leaders of the EU have lost no time in confirming that a mdmber

:35:30. > :35:33.state voting to leave finds itself immediately outside the tent. The

:35:34. > :35:38.process of negotiation looks set to be very tough indeed. Even lore

:35:39. > :35:42.visually striking was Europd's big three had also changed overnight.

:35:43. > :35:46.The place occupied by successive British Prime Ministers was now

:35:47. > :35:51.taken by the Prime Minister of Italy and they acted as if it had always

:35:52. > :35:59.been that way. The message could not have been clearer, the world has

:36:00. > :36:05.changed and so has our placd in it. 60 years ago, Anthony Eden plunged

:36:06. > :36:09.Britain into the Suez crisis that culminated in his resignation.

:36:10. > :36:15.Seeking in vein to maintain the British empire he hastened hts end

:36:16. > :36:20.and changed our place in thd world. British foreign policy has focussed

:36:21. > :36:25.ever more sharply on Europe since then until now. And the present

:36:26. > :36:29.Prime Minister will go down in history for an equally momentous

:36:30. > :36:35.decision. David Cameron's Stez was a referendum we did not need with an

:36:36. > :36:39.outcome even he did not want. It is future generation who is will pay

:36:40. > :36:43.the price of that folly if these Islands do indeed disengage from our

:36:44. > :36:47.European neighbours. But th`t referendum has happened. Thd world

:36:48. > :36:52.has changed. Today's debate has been about how we deal with that. What we

:36:53. > :36:56.should not do is head straight for the trenches to fight again the

:36:57. > :37:00.previous referendum. If the vote last week changed the world, so did

:37:01. > :37:05.the vote in 2014. It's no longer credible to say well that w`s a vote

:37:06. > :37:08.of Britain as a whole, therd is no Scottish angle because Scotland is

:37:09. > :37:12.another component part of the United Kingdom. Not so. If this parliament

:37:13. > :37:17.with their new devolved powdrs really is the most powerful devolved

:37:18. > :37:22.parliament anywhere, it follows that we can and must take our considered

:37:23. > :37:25.view of the implications of Brexit for Scotland's future. Labotr will

:37:26. > :37:29.not support the Conservativd amendment today because it seeks to

:37:30. > :37:32.rule out any engagement by the Scottish Government with thd

:37:33. > :37:36.institutions of the EU as if such engagement was simply a matter for

:37:37. > :37:42.the UK Government alone. Surely this is not the time to limit wh`t

:37:43. > :37:45.options Scotland's devolved Government can explore. I al

:37:46. > :37:50.grateful to the member. I agree with the general point he is makhng but

:37:51. > :37:55.surely it goes further, the Scottish parliament is about to gain over the

:37:56. > :37:58.period of this session powers that place our budget much more hnto

:37:59. > :38:02.connection with the perform`nce of our economy and yet at prechsely

:38:03. > :38:06.that time it's the UK Government which has taken the most wrdckless

:38:07. > :38:11.gamble with the economy which will have a direct impact on spending on

:38:12. > :38:16.public services here unless we act to protect them. I agree with that

:38:17. > :38:18.but at the same time it's true to say that last week's vote does not

:38:19. > :38:22.change the decision of the Scottish people in 2014 when we voted to

:38:23. > :38:25.remain part of the United Khngdom. The question which voters in

:38:26. > :38:28.Scotland were asked last wedk was whether the United Kingdom should

:38:29. > :38:33.remain a member of the European Union and it is the answer to that

:38:34. > :38:40.question which should guide what we do now. There are material changes,

:38:41. > :38:44.of course. Many will wonder whether independence in Europe if Scotland

:38:45. > :38:47.is in or without is less attractive than what was on offer. Manx will

:38:48. > :38:51.leave a domestic market of 65 million is more precious if we lose

:38:52. > :38:55.access to a single market of 50 million even if some think the

:38:56. > :38:59.single market matters more. The First Minister has said agahn today

:39:00. > :39:02.there are options to explord other than a second independence

:39:03. > :39:06.referendum and we on this shde take her at her word. If she wants to

:39:07. > :39:10.retain that credibility and cross-party support she will want to

:39:11. > :39:17.contain the excitement of those of her supporters and even minhsters

:39:18. > :39:21.who cannot wait for it and `ppear to have written off other options

:39:22. > :39:25.already. Many voters will not want a referendum whatever the question

:39:26. > :39:29.because recent weeks have rdminded us of how ugly, brutal and divisive

:39:30. > :39:32.such choices on major national issues can be. I was glad she made

:39:33. > :39:37.clear this afternoon that stpport for her motion is quite sep`rate

:39:38. > :39:39.from the issue of independence, that clear distinction must be m`intained

:39:40. > :39:44.throughout the process we bdgin today. We ask the First Minhster to

:39:45. > :39:47.explore Scotland's options on behalf of this parliament for protdcting

:39:48. > :39:51.the benefits of Scotland's relationship with the EU and our

:39:52. > :39:55.place in the single market `ll of which we have secured over 40 years

:39:56. > :39:58.as part of the UK. We want her to do that in consultation with other

:39:59. > :40:02.leaders of devolved administrations in the United Kingdom, such as the

:40:03. > :40:08.Mayor of London and we welcome what she has said today on that latter.

:40:09. > :40:13.Other parties will also be `ctive in pursuing initiatives towards our

:40:14. > :40:17.shared objectives. Kezia Dugdeal has spoken to the Mayor of London, the

:40:18. > :40:22.and the chief Minister of Ghbraltar, all share our values and value the

:40:23. > :40:26.UK's membership of the EU. There is a particular onus on the Government

:40:27. > :40:31.to take these matters forward over coming months. We welcome the

:40:32. > :40:33.presiding officer's assurance that the parliament stands ready for

:40:34. > :40:38.recall if required this sumler to hear what progress the Government

:40:39. > :40:40.has made and I look forward forward to the Cabinet Secretary addressing

:40:41. > :40:43.immediate issues at the European committee this week. I hope in

:40:44. > :40:47.summing up today the Cabinet Secretary will say more abott

:40:48. > :40:50.exploring options other than independence and that she and her

:40:51. > :40:57.colleagues will work hard to maintain a united approach. Only by

:40:58. > :41:00.doing that can we give people here and elsewhere hope that the chaos

:41:01. > :41:07.and crisis caused by David Cameron's referendum will not mean thd end of

:41:08. > :41:11.our European story. APPLAUSE

:41:12. > :41:15.Thank you very much. Eight linutes or theres about. This has bden a

:41:16. > :41:19.passionate and deeply felt `fternoon of debate and so it should be. Few

:41:20. > :41:24.decisions taken by an electorate have held such profound implications

:41:25. > :41:28.for a country. May I begin by paying tribute to the voters in my

:41:29. > :41:32.constituency who again achidved a record turnout in Scotland of 7 %.

:41:33. > :41:37.And who together with voters in Edinburgh achieved the highdst vote

:41:38. > :41:40.for Remain in Scotland and the th and 10th highest votes

:41:41. > :41:44.representatively anywhere in the UK. My constituents voted to Relain As

:41:45. > :41:48.with all but a handful of mdmbers I sought a different outcome `nd while

:41:49. > :41:52.I accept the outcome across the UK, I share the dismay and frustration

:41:53. > :41:56.expressed by the First Minister last Friday. There have been thrde

:41:57. > :41:58.referendums since devolution and while I appreciate the First

:41:59. > :42:02.Minister has been on the losing side in all of them, being on thd losing

:42:03. > :42:07.side this time has been a ndw experience for me. There have been

:42:08. > :42:10.some SNP lawyers this afternoon who have commended the First Minister on

:42:11. > :42:13.the leadership she showed dtring the campaign and may I surprisingly join

:42:14. > :42:18.them and congratulate her on the energy she brought to the contest,

:42:19. > :42:23.both here in Scotland and in her participation in the UK refdrendum

:42:24. > :42:27.debate. But I cannot help btt observe that the Scottish p`rty who

:42:28. > :42:30.supporters apparently voted to leave by the largest percentage wdre those

:42:31. > :42:35.of the SNP and perhaps the First Minister will reflect on whx so many

:42:36. > :42:42.of her supporters ignored hdr advice and perhaps Richard Lockhead may

:42:43. > :42:47.like to reflect on why nearly 5 % of his constituents voted to ignore

:42:48. > :42:51.him. This was not a clear-ctt result in every district and every

:42:52. > :42:54.community in Scotland. But dessia dug das deal has to reflect while

:42:55. > :42:59.many Labour voters may have followed her advice in Scotland, by ` greater

:43:00. > :43:03.margin they rejected the shocking leadership from Jeremy Corbxn, no

:43:04. > :43:07.national leader has looked lore lacklustre smug or indifferdnt to

:43:08. > :43:11.the result since last Thursday than he has. She can stew in her anger

:43:12. > :43:17.against this side but she ndeds to boil on the shame of her own juices

:43:18. > :43:20.over the complacent and indhfferent leadership shown by Scotland's

:43:21. > :43:28.party's current UK leader at Westminster. In any event, H might

:43:29. > :43:33.observe too in passing, as did e-Labour Party Smith, that to

:43:34. > :43:38.proportional as this parlialent may be it did not reflect the b`lance of

:43:39. > :43:41.opinion in Scotland and that's something for us to reflect upon

:43:42. > :43:45.however awkward. The proposhtion I voted for last week and campaigned

:43:46. > :43:48.for that the UK remain in the European Union no longer exhsts

:43:49. > :43:52.That was the proposition on the ballot paper, it was not th`t I or

:43:53. > :43:55.anyone else are to that matter vote for Scotland to remain in the EU

:43:56. > :43:58.whatever the terms of the circumstances. I voted for Scotland

:43:59. > :44:04.to remain in an EU where thd whole of the UK was an influential member

:44:05. > :44:07.state. The First Minister in her statement last Friday reasonably

:44:08. > :44:10.expressed her frustration, `nd to be frank, anger at the fact th`t

:44:11. > :44:13.Scotland along with Northern Ireland and London spoke so differently to

:44:14. > :44:17.the rest of the UK. She's elbarked on a strategy to explore all the

:44:18. > :44:22.options open to Scotland. And has detailed these as she sees them in

:44:23. > :44:27.broad terms the sensible and prudent. But if I had the vhews

:44:28. > :44:31.expressed this morning however n the European Parliament by Jean,Claude

:44:32. > :44:34.Juncker and the fact in the last few minutes the European Presiddnt

:44:35. > :44:37.Donald Tusk has turned down the First Minister's invitation for a

:44:38. > :44:41.meeting, suggests that it is not going to be an easy path forward. I

:44:42. > :44:44.suspect that while the First Minister does no disservice in

:44:45. > :44:49.exploring her options, the reality of a union based on treaty will

:44:50. > :44:53.assert itself although I hope that my pragmatic pessimism provds wrong.

:44:54. > :44:58.However, in exploring all the options and within hours of the

:44:59. > :45:01.result, the First Minister confirmed she had instructed officials, it

:45:02. > :45:04.seems almost before anything else and before anybody had digested

:45:05. > :45:07.their breakfast, to prepare the way for a second Scottish indepdndence

:45:08. > :45:11.referendum. Because as I listened with care then to the options as the

:45:12. > :45:16.15s Minister detailed them, I did not hear advanced what many regard

:45:17. > :45:20.as the Prost mob outcome and which surely the SNP must acknowlddge must

:45:21. > :45:24.be a possible scenario, that Scotland remains in the UK `nd

:45:25. > :45:28.outside of the European Union. It's not enough for SNP members to sit on

:45:29. > :45:32.their seats and sneer and s`y this shows the true colours of pdople who

:45:33. > :45:35.consider that. It is surely imperative in that scenario we not

:45:36. > :45:39.only secure the best possible terms in our exiting the formal ET for

:45:40. > :45:42.Scotland, but that in the ftture life of our country we ensure that

:45:43. > :45:47.the policies adopted for thd areas of national life once again

:45:48. > :45:51.determined in the UK are unequiffally designed to advance

:45:52. > :45:54.Scotland's best interests. @t the very least this option should enjoy

:45:55. > :45:58.a parallel status and frefrt the Scottish Government.

:45:59. > :46:05.If they don't do that and they focus on the campaign for the next

:46:06. > :46:08.referendum then the SNP risks undermining the Scotland influence

:46:09. > :46:12.in the very negotiations and future planning that are taking pl`ce as

:46:13. > :46:15.others conclude that the Scotland contributed are parted, half baked

:46:16. > :46:19.and designed to undermine the deal available. I do not argue this would

:46:20. > :46:22.ever be the intention of ministers but it could easily be the

:46:23. > :46:28.conclusion of others less and liked it so we need to see Nicola Sturgeon

:46:29. > :46:31.in the heart of London and not in Europe, we need her to work with the

:46:32. > :46:36.Secretary of State for Scotland who she didn't mention in her statement

:46:37. > :46:40.today, and all others to represent Scotland's best interests. We need

:46:41. > :46:44.all of Scotland's Westminstdr MPs, with the First Minister didn't

:46:45. > :46:47.mention today, to represent the Scottish interest and not those of

:46:48. > :46:52.the SNP. We need to see and the voices in support of Scotland and

:46:53. > :46:57.not just suffered the village and tweets in support of the SNP

:46:58. > :47:02.belligerent agenda. Central to our interest is the access to the free

:47:03. > :47:07.trade market that is so fundamental importance to employment. The result

:47:08. > :47:10.last week doesn't change thd fact that the overwhelming majorhty of

:47:11. > :47:14.our business is with the rest of the UK or the European Union and jobs

:47:15. > :47:18.and futures depend upon it. Foremost in our minds wherever we live in the

:47:19. > :47:22.UK should be the future of our young people. I know from my own home and

:47:23. > :47:26.friends of my son is just how strongly they feel. It is not just a

:47:27. > :47:30.media fantasy but rightly or wrongly many young people now feel that the

:47:31. > :47:35.60% of our older generation who voted to leave have the opportunity

:47:36. > :47:40.of the youngest generation who voted to remain. We have above all else to

:47:41. > :47:44.show and give these young pdople help. Direct democracy has let them

:47:45. > :47:50.down in a way ripped represdntative democracy would not do but we have

:47:51. > :47:53.to offer them the opportunity to study and work across Europd and the

:47:54. > :47:56.world as they would wish to do so and we need to facilitate this and

:47:57. > :48:00.the potential absence of thd many schemes available currently within

:48:01. > :48:05.the existing EU and welcome others to the UK in exchange. Just a few

:48:06. > :48:08.weeks ago, and on all sides of this chamber, members spoke with passion

:48:09. > :48:12.and commitment for the UK's continued membership of the European

:48:13. > :48:18.Union. I argued I hope and believe not on the basis of why we should

:48:19. > :48:20.not leave but why we should remain. I will always argue for the most

:48:21. > :48:23.positive, productive and engaging relationship with Europe but now it

:48:24. > :48:27.is necessary for us to meet the challenge few of us sort and we need

:48:28. > :48:33.to meet it with steely purpose and with an agreed unity of purpose and

:48:34. > :48:39.with a message of hope, howdver individuals may define it, our Judy

:48:40. > :48:50.T is now to find the best rdsult for the people of Scotland. I whsh to

:48:51. > :48:54.thank all of those who have participated in the debate today and

:48:55. > :48:59.also echoed the First Minister's pride in the decision voters in

:49:00. > :49:04.Scotland took to decisively vote in favour of Scotland and the TK's

:49:05. > :49:09.continuing membership of thd EU Just reflecting on the contribution,

:49:10. > :49:14.I think Jackson Carla does protest too much and it is about tile the

:49:15. > :49:27.Conservatives face up to wh`t they have done. It doesn't behold him to

:49:28. > :49:32.lash out to other people and other members in this chamber. Sole of the

:49:33. > :49:36.members today have contributed about how they felt personally, as Willie

:49:37. > :49:40.Rennie did, some about their constituents and how they fdel, some

:49:41. > :49:43.have talked about the immedhate consequences of the referendum vote

:49:44. > :49:48.and some about the nature of the campaign that was fought, and some

:49:49. > :49:55.about the immediate aftermath. Many have focused on the result htself,

:49:56. > :50:03.the emphatic 62% of Scots who chose to remain, but also I thought it was

:50:04. > :50:07.a very passionate speech whdn Kezia Dugdale asked us to underst`nd that

:50:08. > :50:11.in some places in some cases people voted to leave out of a sense of

:50:12. > :50:15.powerlessness and a need for change, and we also have to think through

:50:16. > :50:20.the consequences of that and Patrick Harvie was correct to identhfy that

:50:21. > :50:24.there was space provided for division and fear and hatred to be

:50:25. > :50:28.engendered and that has to be confronted and faced on in `ll of

:50:29. > :50:33.our politics as we go ahead. Christina McHale be talked `bout

:50:34. > :50:37.rights and respectful citizdns of the EU and many of the contributions

:50:38. > :50:41.we have had today have talkdd about EU citizens living here. Thd Europe

:50:42. > :50:46.minister visited two businesses yesterday morning in Edinburgh,

:50:47. > :50:49.owned by EU nationals, to hdar first-hand why they chose to make

:50:50. > :50:54.Scotland their home, and to make clear to them that their

:50:55. > :50:56.contribution is valued, and right across Scotland employers

:50:57. > :51:00.organisations and industries have been publishing messages and making

:51:01. > :51:05.statements stressing the continued welcome for their friends and

:51:06. > :51:08.colleagues. A professor frol the University of Glasgow State on

:51:09. > :51:12.Friday that the university was founded in the European tradition

:51:13. > :51:16.and nothing will change thehr international outlook. He told his

:51:17. > :51:19.colleagues and the students from the EU just how much this University

:51:20. > :51:23.values the contribution to the community and they are vital and

:51:24. > :51:27.important part of the University. The head of NHS Scotland has stated

:51:28. > :51:32.that he values the contribution of every member of staff in NHS

:51:33. > :51:37.Scotland regardless of citizenship. The EU referendum has not changed

:51:38. > :51:47.that. The principle of the Royal conservator of Scotland emphasises

:51:48. > :51:53.that our EU people will be welcome. I think we can all agree th`t

:51:54. > :51:55.however each of us voted th`t the Scottish Government has a

:51:56. > :52:01.responsibility to provide reassurance to the 173,000 DU

:52:02. > :52:04.citizens that have chosen to make Scotland their home and the First

:52:05. > :52:12.Minister head of this debatd has already outlined the actions we are

:52:13. > :52:16.taking to provide that reassurance. I met yesterday with many

:52:17. > :52:19.ambassadors who have citizens living here and I underlined our commitment

:52:20. > :52:23.to the interests of their chtizens and I think it is important that we

:52:24. > :52:27.do ensure that welcome is known We have always argued in this

:52:28. > :52:32.government about the benefits of EU migration and that is a consistent

:52:33. > :52:38.part of our message and I w`s saddened and angered the wax some

:52:39. > :52:42.used or seek to use in a wholly misleading way migration as a way to

:52:43. > :52:46.encourage people to leave. Claire Adamson gave a clarion call in a

:52:47. > :52:54.very powerful speech about how all of us going forward must face up and

:52:55. > :52:56.face down that behaviour. Wd cannot express the Scottish Governlent

:52:57. > :53:00.welcome more clearly than the First Minister on Friday morning. Scotland

:53:01. > :53:07.is your home, you're welcomd here and your contribution is valued I

:53:08. > :53:10.also want to emphasise that in my discussions with the ambass`dors

:53:11. > :53:15.yesterday I told them about this debate and that it was a motion

:53:16. > :53:19.about how approval to take forward and protect Scotland's interests in

:53:20. > :53:25.the EU and that all options would be assessed, and they was not ,- that

:53:26. > :53:29.we were not asking Parliament will support about the referendul.

:53:30. > :53:33.Despite my disappointment in the UK result I want to stress agahn the

:53:34. > :53:36.commitment of the Scottish Government in ensuring that all of

:53:37. > :53:40.Scotland's interests and those of our citizens are protected `t this

:53:41. > :53:51.most uncertain of times. Thd Scottish Government will take that

:53:52. > :53:54.forward. We spoke about the economic aspects and some direct dialogue is

:53:55. > :53:58.happening already about how to ensure that our business interests

:53:59. > :54:05.are protected. We must also think about how we do it and who we do it

:54:06. > :54:11.with. We spoke about the financial services industry in the city. How

:54:12. > :54:16.do we expect the financial services in the city of Edinburgh to be

:54:17. > :54:19.advanced without the opporttnity to engage directly, and I bear in mind

:54:20. > :54:24.that the financial services commission has resigned. Although

:54:25. > :54:26.there may be similar interests with the financial services in London,

:54:27. > :54:30.there will also be different interests and it is very important

:54:31. > :54:35.that we explore all options and we understand that. I want to turn to

:54:36. > :54:41.Oliver Mundell in particular who said there is no need to julp to

:54:42. > :54:44.hasty conclusions. In terms of our engagement, we are seeking trgent

:54:45. > :54:49.talks with the UK Government on its plans for a withdrawal but H make it

:54:50. > :54:59.clear that no one has any idea what those plans are. His perspective, to

:55:00. > :55:08.wait and see is at best passive but actually worse is a completd and

:55:09. > :55:12.utter abdication of responshbility. If you listen to the tone of the

:55:13. > :55:18.Conservatives, both sides of remain and leave our acting and behaving as

:55:19. > :55:22.they wish it hadn't happened. Our job and responsibility is to take

:55:23. > :55:27.forward Scotland's interests and I will ensure that we have di`logue

:55:28. > :55:31.with our colleagues across the United Kingdom. We have said quite

:55:32. > :55:36.clearly that Scotland must have a clear role in the UK negoti`tion

:55:37. > :55:40.and, indeed, the Prime Minister has confirmed that but we do nedd a seat

:55:41. > :55:44.at the table and we can't h`ve a repeat of the situation of the last

:55:45. > :55:49.year in terms of the negoti`tions and in terms of David Cameron's work

:55:50. > :55:52.that we were locked out of. It is unclear how these developments will

:55:53. > :55:57.be taken forward but I have met with the Secretary of State for Scotland

:55:58. > :56:00.on Friday and I'm due to have a full call with Europe minister tomorrow

:56:01. > :56:04.and it is important that we ensure that we have an opportunity to look

:56:05. > :56:10.at all options but we must have a direct engagement to ensure that all

:56:11. > :56:14.options can be explored with EU institutions as well as with the

:56:15. > :56:19.United Kingdom. Many members have cited different arguments for

:56:20. > :56:23.economic benefit from the ET, that the access to the single market the

:56:24. > :56:28.valuable social and human rhghts, the importance of being abld to pool

:56:29. > :56:33.sovereignty and look bigger issues such as global challenges and

:56:34. > :56:36.tapping pollution and climate change and the refugee crisis. We don't

:56:37. > :56:40.have to look too far back in history to acknowledge the importance of

:56:41. > :56:42.corporation in the EU over complex. That is something we must always

:56:43. > :56:59.remember. I am proud that this chamber the debate a month `go step

:57:00. > :57:01.forward the positive case for membership, free from the fdar

:57:02. > :57:03.-based campaigning we saw on both sides during the closing st`ges The

:57:04. > :57:06.benefits will realise from our EU membership were as real last week as

:57:07. > :57:09.they are this week and in voting to remain the people of Scotland have

:57:10. > :57:11.recognised that and that is why the Scottish Government is commhtted to

:57:12. > :57:13.be examining all options opdn to it and preserving its relationship with

:57:14. > :57:17.the EU so these benefits can continue to be realised and we will

:57:18. > :57:20.engage directly with Europe`n states and institutions and the UK

:57:21. > :57:24.Government and I met with the Secretary of State, as I sahd, and I

:57:25. > :57:27.am talking to the UK's Europe minister, and we continue otr

:57:28. > :57:32.engagement in Brussels and other member states. If we are to advance

:57:33. > :57:38.our interest in law and bushness and jobs and environment, we must

:57:39. > :57:42.identify what the options are within the EU institutions and the member

:57:43. > :57:49.states. In doing so we can build on the work of the European external

:57:50. > :57:55.affairs committee report whhch was set out and I can reassure lany that

:57:56. > :58:00.I will make sure opposition members and spokespeople are informdd. We

:58:01. > :58:04.have the benefit in Scotland of taking this work forward with advice

:58:05. > :58:08.and information and knowledge and wisdom from a standing Council on

:58:09. > :58:12.Europe, as announced by the First Minister, to look at all thd options

:58:13. > :58:21.that we can take forward in pursuing our interest. In terms of where we

:58:22. > :58:25.are now, we are in a unique and unprecedented situation and we are

:58:26. > :58:30.in uncharted waters and there is no obvious route forward but together

:58:31. > :58:34.we must find a route forward and I am confident that we as a p`rliament

:58:35. > :58:38.can work collaboratively gohng forward, taking all actions in the

:58:39. > :58:46.best interests of Scotland. The people of Scotland sent us here in

:58:47. > :58:49.our election a few weeks ago to represent us -- them and st`nd up

:58:50. > :58:53.for their interests. We havd a clear responsibility and duty to work

:58:54. > :58:56.together, not just across this chamber but together with the

:58:57. > :59:01.experience and knowledge and wisdom of the standing council and beyond

:59:02. > :59:07.to make sure that we identify, protect and advance the Scotland

:59:08. > :59:13.interest in the EU. It is in that spirit and that intent that I would

:59:14. > :59:17.urge members to think forward in the case of Scotland, not just where we

:59:18. > :59:21.have been recently in this campaign, but where we want Scotland to be in

:59:22. > :59:25.the future. We might not have a charted route forward but if we have

:59:26. > :59:30.a commitment and a common endeavour and we have the interest of Scotland

:59:31. > :59:34.clearly in our focus I think this Parliament, working together, can

:59:35. > :59:39.achieve much in difficult thmes So I would urge all members to think

:59:40. > :59:42.about the opportunities that lie ahead, the challenges that lie

:59:43. > :59:46.ahead, be realistic about what they may be, but let's come together and

:59:47. > :59:54.give endorsement that that work should and must take place.

:59:55. > :00:00.That concludes the debate on the implications of the EU referendum

:00:01. > :00:06.for Scotland. It is time to move onto the next item business. Aramid

:00:07. > :00:12.amendments 44-68 and opposition amendment 181 relating to investment

:00:13. > :00:16.relief. Klaus and 76 extends entrepreneur relief to external

:00:17. > :00:21.investors in in listed comp`nies up in a 10% rate of capital gahns tax

:00:22. > :00:26.accruing on the disposal of shares in an unlisted trading comp`ny.

:00:27. > :00:31.Trades -- shares must be held by individuals b-day newly issted or

:00:32. > :00:34.issued after the 26th of March 016 and be held by the investor for at

:00:35. > :00:40.least three years starting from the 6th of April in the 16. A pdrson's

:00:41. > :00:47.qualifying games are subject to a lifetime gap of ?10 billion. The

:00:48. > :00:51.theory behind this relief w`s that it would encourage investment in

:00:52. > :00:52.small business which would need