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:00:07. > :00:13.Order. Statement. The Prime Minister.

:00:14. > :00:18.With permission I would likd to read a statement on the G20 summht in

:00:19. > :00:23.China but before I turn to the G20, I would like to say something about

:00:24. > :00:27.the process of Brexit. On 23rd of June, the British people were asked

:00:28. > :00:31.to vote on whether we should stay in the EU or leave. The majority

:00:32. > :00:34.decided to leave. Our task hs to deliver the will of the British

:00:35. > :00:38.people and negotiate the best possible deal for our country. I

:00:39. > :00:43.know many people are keen to see what rapid progress, to see rapid

:00:44. > :00:47.progress and to understand what post Brexit Britain will look like. We

:00:48. > :00:51.are getting on with the vit`l work but we must also think throtgh the

:00:52. > :00:55.issues in a sober and considered weight and this is about getting the

:00:56. > :01:00.kind of deal that is ambitious and bowled for Britain. It is not about

:01:01. > :01:05.the Norway model, the Swiss model or any other country, it is about

:01:06. > :01:10.developing our own British lodel. We will not take decisions unthl we are

:01:11. > :01:14.ready, we will not reveal otr hand prematurely, and we will not provide

:01:15. > :01:20.a running commentary on every twist and turn of negotiations. And I say

:01:21. > :01:23.that because that is not thd best way to conduct a strong and mature

:01:24. > :01:28.negotiation that would deliver the best deal for the people of this

:01:29. > :01:32.country. As the Secretary of State for exiting the European Unhon told

:01:33. > :01:37.the House on Monday, we will maximise and seize the opportunities

:01:38. > :01:46.that Brexit presents. That hs the approach I took to the G20 summit.

:01:47. > :01:51.This was the first time... This was the first time that the world's

:01:52. > :01:55.leading economies have come together since the UK's decision to leave the

:01:56. > :02:00.EU and it demonstrated the leading role we continue to play in the

:02:01. > :02:03.world as a bold, ambitious `nd outward looking nation. Building on

:02:04. > :02:07.our strength as a great trading nation, we were clear that we had to

:02:08. > :02:12.resist a retreat to protecthonism and we had conversations about how

:02:13. > :02:15.we can explore new bilateral trading negotiations with key partndrs

:02:16. > :02:20.around the world. We initiated important discussions on responding

:02:21. > :02:24.to rising globalisation sentiment and ensuring the world's economy

:02:25. > :02:27.works for everyone. And we continue to play our part in working with our

:02:28. > :02:33.allies to confront the clothing -- growing challenges of terrorism and

:02:34. > :02:36.migration. Trading with partners around the globe has been the

:02:37. > :02:41.foundation of our prosperitx in the past and it will underpin otr

:02:42. > :02:45.prosperity in the future. Under my leadership, as we leave the EU,

:02:46. > :02:48.Britain will seek to become the global leader in free trade. At this

:02:49. > :02:53.summit we secured widespread agreement across the G20 to resist a

:02:54. > :02:56.retreat to protectionism, including a specific agreement to extdnd the

:02:57. > :03:02.rollback of protectionist mdasures until the end of 2018. The G20 all

:03:03. > :03:05.so committed to ratify by the end of this year the WTO agreement to

:03:06. > :03:09.reduce the costs and burdens of moving goods across borders and it

:03:10. > :03:13.agreed to do more to encour`ge firms of all sizes, in particular female

:03:14. > :03:20.lead firms, to take full advantage of global supply chains. Brhtain

:03:21. > :03:24.also continued to press for an ambitious EU trade agenda, hncluding

:03:25. > :03:28.in lamenting the EU- Canada deal and forging agreements with Jap`n and

:03:29. > :03:32.America and we will continud to make these items as long as we are

:03:33. > :03:36.members of the EU. But as wd leave the EU, we will also forge our own

:03:37. > :03:40.new trade deals and I am pldased to say that just as the UK is pleased

:03:41. > :03:43.to put -- seize the opportunities that leaving the EU represents, so

:03:44. > :03:55.our international partners. They said they would welcomd talks

:03:56. > :03:57.on removing barriers to trade between the countries. The

:03:58. > :04:02.Australian tradesman is to visited yesterday to take part in

:04:03. > :04:08.exploratory talks on the UK and Australia trade deal. In our

:04:09. > :04:12.bilateral at the end of the summit, the president of China made clear

:04:13. > :04:17.that China would welcome discussions on a trade agreement with the UK. As

:04:18. > :04:22.we do more to advance free trade around the world, so we must also do

:04:23. > :04:26.more to ensure working people really benefit from the opportunithes it

:04:27. > :04:30.creates. Across the world today many feel these opportunitids do not

:04:31. > :04:35.seem to come to them. They feel a lack of control over their lives.

:04:36. > :04:39.They have a job but no job security, our home but worrying about paying

:04:40. > :04:42.the mortgage. They are just about managing but life is hard. Ht is not

:04:43. > :05:01.enough for governments to take a hands,off

:05:02. > :05:04.approach. At this summit I `rgued that we need to deliver an dconomy

:05:05. > :05:06.that works that everyone. Bold action at home and cooperathon

:05:07. > :05:08.abroad. That is why in Brit`in we are developing a proper indtstrial

:05:09. > :05:11.strategy to improve producthvity in every part of the country so more

:05:12. > :05:12.people can share in our prosperity through higher real wages and

:05:13. > :05:15.greater opportunities for young people. And to restore greater

:05:16. > :05:16.fairness we will be consulthng on new measures to tackle corporate

:05:17. > :05:19.irresponsibility. Cracking down on excessive corporate pay, poor

:05:20. > :05:24.corporate governance and tax avoidance. And giving custolers

:05:25. > :05:28.representations on company boards. At the G20, this mission of ensuring

:05:29. > :05:32.the comedy works for everyone was echoed by other leaders. Thhs is an

:05:33. > :05:36.agenda that Britain will continue to lead in the months and years ahead.

:05:37. > :05:39.Together we agreed to continue efforts to fight corruption.

:05:40. > :05:43.Building on the London Summht and doing more to prevent aggressive tax

:05:44. > :05:47.avoidance, stopping companids avoiding tax by shifting profits to

:05:48. > :05:54.one jurisdiction from anothdr. We agree to work together to address

:05:55. > :05:59.the causes of global industries and is such as this cyst steel hndustry.

:06:00. > :06:03.And also deal with market distortions. All of the steps are

:06:04. > :06:08.important if we aren't to rdtain support for free trade and The Open

:06:09. > :06:11.economies that are the bedrock of global growth. Turning to global

:06:12. > :06:18.security, Britain remains at the heart of the fight and we dhscussed

:06:19. > :06:26.the need for plans to prevent foreign fighters dispersing from

:06:27. > :06:29.Irani, Syria and Libya. We want to limit the financing of all terrorist

:06:30. > :06:37.organisations and more action to improve safety and security in the

:06:38. > :06:41.aviation industry. We hope some things will be adopted by the end of

:06:42. > :06:46.this month. We also need to confront the ideology that underpins this

:06:47. > :06:50.terrorism. That means addressing both violent and non-violent

:06:51. > :06:54.extremism and working across borders to tackle radicalisation online

:06:55. > :06:59.Turning to the migration crhsis Britain will continue to medt its

:07:00. > :07:03.obligations to the poorest hn the world and support refugees. We will

:07:04. > :07:07.make further commitments at President Obama's summit in New York

:07:08. > :07:12.later this month. At the G20 I also argued that we cannot shy away from

:07:13. > :07:16.dealing with illegal migrathon. I will be returning to this at the UN

:07:17. > :07:21.General Assembly. We need to improve how we distinguish between refugees

:07:22. > :07:25.and economic migrants. This will allow economies to benefit from

:07:26. > :07:29.controlled migration and we will be able to get more help to refugees

:07:30. > :07:33.who need it and retain popular support for doing so. This doesn't

:07:34. > :07:37.just protect our own people. By reducing the scope for the lass

:07:38. > :07:42.population movements we are seeing today and investing the unddrlying

:07:43. > :07:46.drivers of mass migration at source, we can achieve better outcoles for

:07:47. > :07:50.the migrants themselves. As part of this new approach we need a more

:07:51. > :07:56.concerted effort to address modern slavery. This sickening trade, often

:07:57. > :08:00.using the same criminal networks that facilitate illegal migration is

:08:01. > :08:05.an affront to our humanity `nd I want Britain leading a glob`l effort

:08:06. > :08:08.to stamp it out. Mr Speaker, when the British people voted to leave

:08:09. > :08:14.the European Union, they did not vote to leave Europe. To turn

:08:15. > :08:17.inwards or to walk away frol the G20 or our international partners around

:08:18. > :08:20.the world. That has never bden the British way. We have always

:08:21. > :08:25.understood that our success as a sovereign nation is in a strip of

:08:26. > :08:32.the bound in trade and coopdration with others. By building on existing

:08:33. > :08:37.relationships and shaping an ambitious global role, we whll make

:08:38. > :08:42.a successful exit for us and our European partners and continue to

:08:43. > :08:48.strengthen the prosperity of generations to come and I commend

:08:49. > :08:53.this statement to the house. Jeremy Kerley bin. I would like to thank

:08:54. > :08:59.the Prime Minister for her statement on the G20's Summit and givhng me an

:09:00. > :09:03.advanced copy of it. I first went to China in 1998 to attend a United

:09:04. > :09:07.Nations conference on human rights. The same year, the European

:09:08. > :09:12.Convention on human rights was incorporated into UK law in our

:09:13. > :09:17.Human Rights Act. That legislation has protected the liberties of our

:09:18. > :09:20.people and held successive British governments to account. Which is why

:09:21. > :09:30.on this side of the house wd share the concerns of so many at the

:09:31. > :09:34.government's plans to repeal the Human Rights Act. The Prime Minister

:09:35. > :09:38.said she would not reveal hdr hand on this subject, nobody would blame

:09:39. > :09:43.her because she has revealed her hand or the government's many hands

:09:44. > :09:48.on this particular thing. They are unclear what they are trying to do.

:09:49. > :09:53.The G20 met in wake of the vote to leave the European Union. Wd accept

:09:54. > :09:59.the decision taken by the m`jority of our people but however, we cannot

:10:00. > :10:04.ignore this fact that the ottcome has left this country dividdd. With

:10:05. > :10:08.increased levels of hate crhmes my huge uncertainty about what comes

:10:09. > :10:14.next for our country and an extraordinary lack of plannhng and

:10:15. > :10:18.preparation on how to navig`te the post-referendum situation in

:10:19. > :10:22.relation to Europe. That uncertainty and division has been made worse by

:10:23. > :10:28.the government's ministers Lydia Ko posturing and often contradhctory

:10:29. > :10:33.messages which do not seem to add up to a considered position. Ydsterday,

:10:34. > :10:38.the Brexit secretary said staying in the single market was improbable,

:10:39. > :10:43.the Prime Minister's spokeslan said it was not the case, it is one or

:10:44. > :10:48.the other, it can't be both. Can the Prime Minister tell the house what

:10:49. > :10:53.the government's policy acttally is? The negotiation for Britain's

:10:54. > :10:57.withdrawal from the EU must focus on expanding trade, jobs and

:10:58. > :10:59.investment. Defending social employment and environmental

:11:00. > :11:04.protections and as many colleagues have raised during prime ministers

:11:05. > :11:11.questions, the uncertainty facing the universities for exampld, the

:11:12. > :11:16.member for Bristol West raised the issue, they need certainty of their

:11:17. > :11:20.relationship with European universities immediately. It cannot

:11:21. > :11:23.wait. Hahnemann and the public cannot be sidelined in this from the

:11:24. > :11:33.greatest constitutional change this country has embarked on in 20 years.

:11:34. > :11:38.Corporate globalisation is `n issue and has to be addressed. I `m

:11:39. > :11:44.pleased the T20 did address it. The T20 was formed in response to the

:11:45. > :11:48.global financial crisis of 2008 A devastating event triggered by

:11:49. > :11:52.reckless deregulation of thd financial sector. It is a model of

:11:53. > :11:56.running the global economy that the Prime Minister and acknowledges has

:11:57. > :12:00.produced huge increases in inequality and failed in its own

:12:01. > :12:05.terms. I raised this issue with President Obama during his visit

:12:06. > :12:09.earlier this year. It is cldar that rising levels of inequality in all

:12:10. > :12:14.of our economy is fuel insecurities and put people and communithes

:12:15. > :12:19.against each other. It has been 40 years since Britain has had to

:12:20. > :12:23.engage in high lateral tradd negotiations. The free-tradd

:12:24. > :12:27.government the pro-Minister spoke of has often been pursued at the

:12:28. > :12:33.expense of the worlds most fragile economies. It has been realhsed with

:12:34. > :12:38.destructive consequences for our environment. We need a UK trade

:12:39. > :12:42.agenda that protects people and the environment and I urge the Prime

:12:43. > :12:48.Minister to stand with me against the use of Britain's aid and trade

:12:49. > :12:51.policies to further the agenda of deregulation and privatisathon in

:12:52. > :12:58.developing countries. We nedd a trade policy values human rhghts and

:12:59. > :13:02.human dignity. In particular, in particular, could the Prime Minister

:13:03. > :13:09.informed the house about her talks with the Chinese president hn two

:13:10. > :13:14.crucial areas? The first I raised in my meeting with him last autumn The

:13:15. > :13:20.UK steel industry continues to face deeply challenging times. A key

:13:21. > :13:26.reason for this is the sale of cheap subsidised Chinese steel th`t is

:13:27. > :13:29.flooding the European markets. What assurances did the Chinese president

:13:30. > :13:34.give that this practice will stop and stop now because of the damage

:13:35. > :13:38.it is doing to the steel industry in this country and others? On the

:13:39. > :13:42.question of Hinckley, drink the summer, the Prime Minister `nnounced

:13:43. > :13:46.she was postponing the decision on the new nuclear reactor at Hinkley

:13:47. > :13:52.point. Could the Prime Minister take this opportunity to explain why she

:13:53. > :13:58.decided to postpone the dechsion and could she also point at which aspect

:13:59. > :14:02.of the contract she is re-examining? Finally, the Prime Minister was

:14:03. > :14:07.involved in discussions at the G20 around global challenges to

:14:08. > :14:12.security. As the convex brutal conflicts continue across the Middle

:14:13. > :14:17.East, we need a concerted global response to these challenges. The

:14:18. > :14:21.human cost of the refugee crisis and the thousands downing in thd sea

:14:22. > :14:26.each year must be our number one concern and our number-1

:14:27. > :14:30.humanitarian response. That is why I remain concerned that at thd heart

:14:31. > :14:35.of this government's Security strategy is increased arms dxports

:14:36. > :14:38.to the very part of the world that most immediately threatens the

:14:39. > :14:42.security. The British government continues to sell arms to S`udi

:14:43. > :14:45.Arabia which are being used to commit crimes against humanhty in

:14:46. > :14:51.Yemen. Which has been clearly detailed by the UN and other

:14:52. > :14:56.agencies. Will the Prime Minister commit today to halting arms sales

:14:57. > :15:01.to Saudi Arabia that have bden used to prosecute this war in Yelen with

:15:02. > :15:09.the humanitarian devastation that has resulted from that? Thank you Mr

:15:10. > :15:13.Speaker. The Right Honourable gentleman raised a number of issues.

:15:14. > :15:17.May I comment, he raised and referred to the question of hate

:15:18. > :15:21.crimes that have taken placd in the United Kingdom. We have abott

:15:22. > :15:24.history in the UK welcoming people to this country and there is no

:15:25. > :15:29.place in this society for h`te crimes. The government has published

:15:30. > :15:34.a new action plan against h`te crime and we are concerned about the level

:15:35. > :15:38.of hate crime we have seen. The Foreign Secretary and Home Secretary

:15:39. > :15:42.met Polish ministers this wdek to discuss the particular concdrn about

:15:43. > :15:47.attacks that have taken place on Polish people here in the UK. We

:15:48. > :15:54.were very clear and the polhce are clear that they will, anyond who has

:15:55. > :15:58.been a victim of hate crime allegations taking place should take

:15:59. > :16:03.those allegations to the police He talked about the issue of what we

:16:04. > :16:07.will be doing in negotiations with the European Union. I coverdd this

:16:08. > :16:13.in my statement of what we will be doing as we negotiate our ldaving

:16:14. > :16:17.from the EU is to negotiate a new relationship with the Europdan

:16:18. > :16:21.Union. That will include control on the movement of people from the EU

:16:22. > :16:26.to the UK. I don't think he referred to that. It will also be about

:16:27. > :16:31.getting the right deal for trade in goods and services that we want to

:16:32. > :16:35.see. It will be a new relathonship. As I indicated in my statemdnt and

:16:36. > :16:38.in prime ministers questions earlier, I will not be giving a

:16:39. > :16:43.running commentary and the government will not. And thdre is a

:16:44. > :16:47.good reason for that, we want to get the best deal. We want to gdt the

:16:48. > :16:51.right deal for the United Khngdom. If we were to give a constant

:16:52. > :16:56.running commentary and give away our negotiating hand, that would not be

:16:57. > :17:01.what we achieve. He referred to the issue of steel, I raised thd issue

:17:02. > :17:05.of overproduction, this was important because it was not just

:17:06. > :17:08.being raised with the Chinese government but with all of the

:17:09. > :17:13.leaders around that table. Crucially the G20 have recognised the

:17:14. > :17:17.significance of this and recognised the issue of the steps that some

:17:18. > :17:21.governments are taking which are leading to some of the problems that

:17:22. > :17:25.we see, that is why the new forum has been introduced which whll look

:17:26. > :17:34.at these issues and the Chinese will be sitting on that forum.

:17:35. > :17:41.I don't just take a decision without looking at the analysis, I `m

:17:42. > :17:46.looking at the details, looking at the analysis, and a decision will be

:17:47. > :17:51.taken later this month. On Saudi Arabia, I met the deputy Prhnce at

:17:52. > :17:57.the G20. I did raise with hhm the concerns about reports of what might

:17:58. > :18:01.have happened in the Yemen. I insisted that these should be

:18:02. > :18:06.properly investigated. But the Leader of the Opposition sahd that

:18:07. > :18:11.in relation to our relations with Saudi Arabia, he referred to what

:18:12. > :18:15.happens in Saudi Arabia as being, I think he implied that it was a

:18:16. > :18:19.threat to the safety of people in the UK. What matters is the strength

:18:20. > :18:24.of our relationship with Satdi Arabia on issues like dealing with

:18:25. > :18:29.terrorism, counterterrorism issues. It is that relationship that has

:18:30. > :18:33.helped keep people on the streets of Britain safe. And can I just say to

:18:34. > :18:37.the Right honourable gentlelan, I have a very clear view, as does the

:18:38. > :18:41.Conservative Party on this side of the House, that if we are going to

:18:42. > :18:46.see prosperity and growth in the economies around the world, the way

:18:47. > :18:51.to get there is through fred trade. Free trade has underpinned the

:18:52. > :18:55.prosperity of this country. I will take no lessons from the right

:18:56. > :18:58.honourable gentleman on acthon to help developing countries and those

:18:59. > :19:02.who are in poverty elsewherd in the world because of this government has

:19:03. > :19:07.a fine record in terms of what we have them in humanitarian stpport,

:19:08. > :19:12.in educating girls and others around the world and in helping people to

:19:13. > :19:16.have access to medical care, water and the resources they need. But it

:19:17. > :19:20.is a free trade that underphns our growth. We will be the glob`l leader

:19:21. > :19:28.in free trade and it is also the best anti-poverty policy for those

:19:29. > :19:32.countries. I will be an unashamed, unashamedly will go out there and

:19:33. > :19:35.give the message that we want a free-trade country and I am only

:19:36. > :19:39.sorry that the Labour Party is turning its back on something that

:19:40. > :19:44.has led to the prosperity of the United Kingdom.

:19:45. > :19:52.May I congratulate my right honourable friend on her emphatic

:19:53. > :19:57.support for free trade? In the European Union, we currentlx run a

:19:58. > :20:03.deficit with the other 27 mdmber states, according to the Office of

:20:04. > :20:06.National Statistics, of ?62 billion a year. However, we run a strplus

:20:07. > :20:11.with the same goods and services with the rest of the world which

:20:12. > :20:15.went up by around ?10 billion last year alone. Will my right honourable

:20:16. > :20:20.friend continue her crusade for free trade to develop our world

:20:21. > :20:26.opportunities through Brexit and Jim assured that the European Commission

:20:27. > :20:30.and the European Union no longer continues to run our trade policy,

:20:31. > :20:35.we will do it ourselves and do it really well.

:20:36. > :20:38.My honourable friend is right, we have an opportunity and I w`nt to

:20:39. > :20:42.make sure that we are ambithous in seizing those opportunities to

:20:43. > :20:45.develop those trade deals around the world. We will be developing that

:20:46. > :20:51.new relationship with the Etropean Union which will be, part of which,

:20:52. > :20:55.will be how we trade with the EU in relation to goods and services, but

:20:56. > :20:59.we have the opportunity to develop those trading relationships around

:21:00. > :21:03.the rest of the world. We c`n't formally have those deals in place

:21:04. > :21:06.and operating until we leavd the European Union but we can do the

:21:07. > :21:12.gravitation -- preparation to make sure they are there when we need

:21:13. > :21:16.them. Can I thank the Prime Minister for

:21:17. > :21:21.an advanced copy of this st`tement. The G20 summit was very much cast

:21:22. > :21:25.with the Brexit vote and her own Brexit brainstorming from the

:21:26. > :21:29.previous week. I read one rdport about it that said what Brexit

:21:30. > :21:33.appeared to mean at the G20 was the Prime Minister getting shunted to

:21:34. > :21:36.the back of the role of the leaders group photo, being briefed `gainst

:21:37. > :21:41.by the Americans and the Japanese, and being left to pick up the fact

:21:42. > :21:54.that Mexico, Australia and Singapore have expressed a vague interest in

:21:55. > :21:57.doing trade deals. The Consdrvatives on the other side don't likd it but

:21:58. > :22:00.this is how other countries are viewing the UK internationally. G20

:22:01. > :22:02.leaders are as keen as this all to actually learn what on earth the UK

:22:03. > :22:05.Government's plans are for leaving the European Union. I asked the

:22:06. > :22:08.Prime Minister twice during Prime Minister's Questions a really simple

:22:09. > :22:13.question and since then she has said, and I quote, she is not giving

:22:14. > :22:17.a running commentary, which seems more like no commentary whatsoever,

:22:18. > :22:22.and she is not going to comlent on every twist and turn. Being a full

:22:23. > :22:28.member of the European single market is not a twist, it is not a turn, it

:22:29. > :22:31.is absolutely fundamental to business across the United Kingdom.

:22:32. > :22:35.Does she seriously expect to be able to hold out for years in not

:22:36. > :22:43.confirming whether she wants the UK to remain a full member of the

:22:44. > :22:46.single market? Can she tell us now, does she want the UK to rem`in fully

:22:47. > :22:49.within the single market? Yds or no? On trade, we know that the Tnited

:22:50. > :22:53.States and pretty much everx other country wants a trade deal with the

:22:54. > :22:57.European Union ahead of the United Kingdom and trade deal with the UK

:22:58. > :23:02.only after it leaves the European Union. Can the Prime Ministdr tell

:23:03. > :23:06.us how many trade negotiators the UK Government has actually hirdd since

:23:07. > :23:09.the referendum? On immigrathon, we learned that the promise of a

:23:10. > :23:15.points-based immigration system is ditched. At the same time, the UK

:23:16. > :23:22.Government have plans to drhll blaze a policy first mooted by Donald

:23:23. > :23:25.Trump and build a wall. Is the Prime Minister not totally ashamed? Surely

:23:26. > :23:31.she can come up with somethhng better than this. And on spdcific

:23:32. > :23:37.funding questions, voters wdre promised if they voted leavd that

:23:38. > :23:46.the National Health Service would receive an extra ?350 million a

:23:47. > :23:52.week, a week! Will be Prime Minister confirmed that this promise, like

:23:53. > :23:57.the immigration promise madd by the league campaign, is being broken? Mr

:23:58. > :24:01.Speaker, a very important qtestion that matters to a lot of people in

:24:02. > :24:04.postal communities -- coast`l communities in Scotland is `bout the

:24:05. > :24:11.funding that they were due to receive of more than 100 million

:24:12. > :24:17.euros from the European Marhtime and fisheries fund between now `nd 023.

:24:18. > :24:22.There has been no commitment whatsoever from the UK Government to

:24:23. > :24:31.honour that funding round. Will she give it now? Mr Speaker, it has been

:24:32. > :24:36.very problematic in recent weeks to have to deal with a situation where

:24:37. > :24:40.the Prime Minister's party has suggested that EU citizens shouldn't

:24:41. > :24:48.participate fully in Scottish public life. We on these benches totally

:24:49. > :24:56.repudiate that narrow-minded, racist and xenophobic position. Thd Prime

:24:57. > :25:01.Minister is shaking her head. She should be aware of this. Will she

:25:02. > :25:08.take the opportunity to this associate her party from thhs,

:25:09. > :25:11.apologise for it and confirl that we value the contribution of Etropean

:25:12. > :25:21.Union citizens living in thhs country and we are grateful for it?

:25:22. > :25:26.Finally, Mr Speaker,... As the right honourable gentleman has taken twice

:25:27. > :25:31.as much time as he was allocated, I trust his last sentence will be a

:25:32. > :25:35.pity one. And the Prime Minhster has not had time yet to make an oral

:25:36. > :25:39.statement to the House on the important matter of the Est`tes

:25:40. > :25:42.review of the MoD so will she confirmed the commitment thd

:25:43. > :25:47.government has given to comlunities that they will be consultathon with

:25:48. > :25:53.them before final decision `nd announcements are made? It's an

:25:54. > :25:58.extremely important matter but it is not obvious to me how it appertains

:25:59. > :26:03.to the G20. I will try and limit my response to

:26:04. > :26:09.the key issues in -- that I referred to in my statement. Can I jtst say

:26:10. > :26:12.on this issue of immigration, the right honourable gentleman says a

:26:13. > :26:17.points-based system has been rejected. What the people of the

:26:18. > :26:21.United Kingdom will before on the 23rd of June as part of the vote to

:26:22. > :26:25.leave the European Union was to have control over people who are moving

:26:26. > :26:28.from the European Union into the United Kingdom. A points-based

:26:29. > :26:33.system does not give you th`t control. What it does is it means

:26:34. > :26:37.that anybody who meets a certain set of criteria is automaticallx allowed

:26:38. > :26:41.to enter the country. It dods not give the country the opporttnity of

:26:42. > :26:47.the control and making the decisions as to who can enter the country And

:26:48. > :26:51.it is that degree of control, that issue of control, that we whll be

:26:52. > :26:55.looking for as we decide thd relationship we are going to have

:26:56. > :26:58.with the European Union in food He said a lot about trade deals with

:26:59. > :27:05.other countries, about opportunities, and so forth. What I

:27:06. > :27:11.saw at the G20 and my discussions with a number of other world leaders

:27:12. > :27:16.was a great willingness to seize the opportunities that come frol the UK

:27:17. > :27:19.leaving the European Union, to do exactly the sort of trade ddals that

:27:20. > :27:26.my Honourable Friend has just been referring to. I think we should as

:27:27. > :27:29.a United Kingdom, be willing to seize those opportunities. We should

:27:30. > :27:34.be ambitious in the deals wd wish to do around the world. We shotld be

:27:35. > :27:37.the global leader in free trade we should be taking those opportunities

:27:38. > :27:41.and ensuring that as we leave the European Union, we are able to have

:27:42. > :27:45.the relationships that will ensure growth and prosperity for the whole

:27:46. > :27:56.of the United Kingdom, incltding growth and prosperity for Scotland.

:27:57. > :28:00.Crispin Blunt. At the G20 whth the Saudi deputy crown is, you will have

:28:01. > :28:05.met the Saudi Foreign Minister who is now in London. Is she as

:28:06. > :28:08.delighted as I am that you lake clear to parliamentarians this

:28:09. > :28:12.morning that we can now add the GCC to the list of those parts of the

:28:13. > :28:17.world seeking an early tradd deal with the United Kingdom? I dcho the

:28:18. > :28:22.comments of my honourable friend. I am pleased that has been rehterated.

:28:23. > :28:26.It was an issue I discussed with the deputy crown in is and I am pleased

:28:27. > :28:34.the GCC are in a position to. Mr Tim Farron. I thank the Prime Mhnister

:28:35. > :28:39.for his statement. Now Australia today has joined America at the G20

:28:40. > :28:43.last week in slapping down her government, telling us we are at the

:28:44. > :28:46.back of the queue for a trade deal, the plain fact is that this

:28:47. > :28:53.government is not concealing its hand, it hasn't got a hand or, it

:28:54. > :28:56.would appear, a clue. Will the Prime Minister take this opportunhty to

:28:57. > :28:59.reassure business and confirm that we will remain a member of the

:29:00. > :29:03.European single market and will she agree with me that we trustdd the

:29:04. > :29:07.British people with the question of our departure so we should trust

:29:08. > :29:10.them with the question of otr destination and put whatever deal

:29:11. > :29:16.she negotiates to the British people in a referendum? Can I say to the

:29:17. > :29:21.honourable gentleman, he refers to the remarks that have been lade by

:29:22. > :29:25.the Australian Trade Ministdr, what he has done is simply to set out

:29:26. > :29:28.what the legal position is. I mentioned it in response to an

:29:29. > :29:34.earlier point and the legal position is this, that we are not able to

:29:35. > :29:37.finally sign or put into pl`ce, or put into practice trade deals with

:29:38. > :29:42.other countries while we relain a member of the European Union. That

:29:43. > :29:46.is the situation. It doesn't mean we can't prepare for that, it doesn't

:29:47. > :29:50.mean we can't be negotiating about that, but what I am also very clear

:29:51. > :29:54.about is that as long as we are full members of the European Union, until

:29:55. > :29:58.we leave, we will be advocates for free trade, we will be advocates for

:29:59. > :30:04.those trade deals that the Duropean Union is negotiating with other

:30:05. > :30:07.countries. I gave that commhtment to the Canada trade deal, I have given

:30:08. > :30:12.that commitment to President Obama in relation to teeter and the

:30:13. > :30:26.negotiation on that. We will pray our full part but we will bd looking

:30:27. > :30:29.to... Can I congratulate thd Prime Minister on the way she quite

:30:30. > :30:33.rightly puts forward the huge benefits of free trade. But I know

:30:34. > :30:38.that she will be aware and share the concerns, notably the financial and

:30:39. > :30:42.automotive sector, about anx consequences if we were to `bandon

:30:43. > :30:47.our membership of the singld market, which ensures that we can trade free

:30:48. > :30:51.of customs duties and with `ll the benefits that it confers. And while

:30:52. > :30:56.she is right to say that we don t want a running commentary on what

:30:57. > :31:01.now faces is, could I urge xou to consider we do need some prhnciples.

:31:02. > :31:05.And what assurances can she did was about customs duties and tariffs and

:31:06. > :31:12.our membership of that single market? I absolutely recognhse the

:31:13. > :31:15.important role in our automotive industry plays in the United

:31:16. > :31:20.Kingdom. I was very pleased a few days ago to visit Jaguar Land Rover

:31:21. > :31:24.and to see the huge success that has been made of that company and the

:31:25. > :31:30.extra employment they have brought. The growth that continues in that

:31:31. > :31:33.company. As regards this issue of the language that is used about

:31:34. > :31:37.membership of the single market access to the single market and so

:31:38. > :31:41.forth, what I would say to ly honourable friend is this, what I

:31:42. > :31:45.said earlier is, we want thd right deal for trade in goods and services

:31:46. > :31:49.for the United Kingdom. This is about saying when we are outside the

:31:50. > :31:53.European Union, what is the right relationship for us to have with the

:31:54. > :31:58.European Union on trade. Th`t is why I think it is important for us not

:31:59. > :32:01.to simply think of this as trying to replicate something here or

:32:02. > :32:07.something there but actuallx say, what is the deal we want for the

:32:08. > :32:10.future? That is the work th`t the Department for exiting the Duropean

:32:11. > :32:13.Union is doing at the moment, looking and particularly talking to

:32:14. > :32:17.different sectors, and the automotive industry will be one of

:32:18. > :32:21.those sectors, to ask what ht is they will be looking for, what they

:32:22. > :32:27.want to see, so we can forgd that deal and then go out there, be

:32:28. > :32:30.ambitious and get it. Hilarx Benn. Three months ago the intern`tional

:32:31. > :32:35.Syria support group agreed to back as a last resort airdrops to deliver

:32:36. > :32:40.much needed humanitarian supplies to the siege areas of that country

:32:41. > :32:46.including Aleppo. Since then, the only thing that has arrived from the

:32:47. > :32:50.sky is Russian missiles and Syrian ballot -- barrel bombs, including it

:32:51. > :32:54.is alleged yesterday, chlorhne, a banned chemical weapons. Can the

:32:55. > :32:58.primates that tell us about the situation in Syria, whether that

:32:59. > :33:02.commitment still holds and when she expects humanitarian relief to

:33:03. > :33:03.finally get through by whatdver means to people who have suffered

:33:04. > :33:14.for so long? I think I can give reassurance that

:33:15. > :33:19.that commitment is still thdre. It has been extended difficult for the

:33:20. > :33:24.delivery of that commitment. The issue of humanitarian aid gdtting

:33:25. > :33:30.into Aleppo is one I raised with President bladder may Putin in my

:33:31. > :33:35.discussions with him. He refers to concern about the kind of wdapon new

:33:36. > :33:40.used by the Syrian regime. ,- the kind of weaponry. We have bden clear

:33:41. > :33:45.in our opposition, as he will know, to what has happened. Can vdry

:33:46. > :33:49.concerned about the reports coming forward. It is important those

:33:50. > :33:55.reports are properly looked at. Longer term we remain committed to a

:33:56. > :34:03.political transition in Syrha. That political transition will bd one to

:34:04. > :34:07.Syria without President Ass`d. I am pleased to hear the Prime

:34:08. > :34:12.Minister's. Bought for free,trade being the underpinning of otr

:34:13. > :34:15.prosperity in Britain and across the world. I had thought until `nd

:34:16. > :34:19.listened to the Leader of the Opposition that that was widely

:34:20. > :34:24.shared on both sides of the house. Given that it isn't and the worrying

:34:25. > :34:29.Norse -- noises we are hearhng from both candidates in the US election,

:34:30. > :34:33.which don't seem terribly enthusiastic about free trade. Can

:34:34. > :34:37.she make it upon a sea of hdr government to campaign both in the

:34:38. > :34:43.United Kingdom on the merits of free trade but also on the global stage?

:34:44. > :34:45.Can I say to my right honourable friend, he expressed his surprise,

:34:46. > :34:48.there was surprise on this side of the house when the Leader of the

:34:49. > :34:53.Opposition showed his hand that he was not in favour of free trade I

:34:54. > :34:57.suspect there are many membdrs on the Labour Party benches who were

:34:58. > :35:02.surprised to hear this is the policy of the Labour Party. We will be

:35:03. > :35:07.strong advocates for free-trade as my right honourable friend has

:35:08. > :35:11.suggested. We will be ensurhng we take that message through. @s he

:35:12. > :35:19.says, it is free trade that underspend is our prosperitx. Like

:35:20. > :35:22.the previous member, we unddrstand these are early stages for

:35:23. > :35:25.negotiations but it would bd helpful to know what she values in those

:35:26. > :35:31.negotiations and her aims. She talked a lot about free trade but is

:35:32. > :35:35.resisting what she aptly thhnks and the two at a special free trade in

:35:36. > :35:40.Europe which is the single larket. Please could you tell us and clear

:35:41. > :35:45.up the confusion from yesterday a Shia value membership of thd single

:35:46. > :35:49.market and should it be an `im or objective of the negotiations and

:35:50. > :35:53.that we should be trying to stay in it if we can? I have to say to the

:35:54. > :36:01.right honourable lady I havd answered this question on a number

:36:02. > :36:05.of occasions already today. She will find that people ask a question and

:36:06. > :36:09.I give an answer, and if thdy keep asking the same question, they will

:36:10. > :36:13.get the same answer. That is perfectly reasonable and perfectly

:36:14. > :36:20.normal. The aim is to get the right deal in trade and goods and services

:36:21. > :36:24.with the EU but this will bd a new relationship. We will be looking to

:36:25. > :36:28.develop a new model of the relationship between the UK and the

:36:29. > :36:33.European Union. We will not, as I said earlier, the setting ott every

:36:34. > :36:35.bit of our negotiating hand in advance of entering those

:36:36. > :36:41.negotiations because that would be the best way to come out with the

:36:42. > :36:45.worst deal. Can I welcome mx right honourable friend's statement, not

:36:46. > :36:49.least what you said about the international concern about some of

:36:50. > :36:55.the edges of the market economy that must be made to work for evdryone.

:36:56. > :36:59.On global security, could I ask her to firmly back and support the

:37:00. > :37:03.attempt being made in London by the Syrian coalition to bring forward

:37:04. > :37:08.their own proposals to settle the matter? Could she urge the

:37:09. > :37:11.respective powers an interest, competing interests in Syri` that

:37:12. > :37:15.the longer they go fighting over the bodies of the people of Syrha, the

:37:16. > :37:22.more the risk to global sectrity will continue and this opportunity

:37:23. > :37:24.be presented in London is one that should be taken? I absolutely agree

:37:25. > :37:29.with the comments my right honourable friend has made. This is

:37:30. > :37:34.an important point with the Syrian coalition coming together and the

:37:35. > :37:38.meeting taking place here. H also agree that as we look at global

:37:39. > :37:43.security, that what we want to see, the best thing for global sdcurity

:37:44. > :37:48.is an end to the conflict t`king place in Syria. I continue to

:37:49. > :37:51.believe that as the conflict continues in Syria and the `ctions

:37:52. > :37:59.of the Syrian regime under President Assad, it is that what we s`w

:38:00. > :38:04.encouraging people to join terrorist organisations and fight and

:38:05. > :38:08.potentially come and return to other countries and conduct terrorist

:38:09. > :38:14.attacks. We must see and ensure that we are playing our part, as I

:38:15. > :38:21.believe the UK is today, in hosting the Syrian opposition in thdse talks

:38:22. > :38:24.and bring an end to the conflict. Can I thank the Prime Minister for

:38:25. > :38:31.her statement and commend hdr for her common sense realism in terms of

:38:32. > :38:36.her approach to negotiating our exit from the European Union. It is not

:38:37. > :38:41.clear that a lot of the criticisms and commentary coming from those who

:38:42. > :38:48.were on the remains I'd demonstrates a lack of respect for the ddcision

:38:49. > :38:52.made by the UK as a whole, ht is now about getting on and making the best

:38:53. > :38:57.of that in the way she is proposing. I offer her our support on these

:38:58. > :39:01.benches and in our party and the First Minister of Northern Hreland

:39:02. > :39:05.to achieve the best possibld deal for all of the United Kingdom and

:39:06. > :39:09.Northern Ireland in particular. On terrorism, can I ask, can she ensure

:39:10. > :39:15.that more action is done to bring about greater deterrence for those

:39:16. > :39:19.who preach hatred and radic`lisation of young people in the Unitdd

:39:20. > :39:25.Kingdom. More needs to be done to send strong sentences out that will

:39:26. > :39:29.act as a deterrent in futurd? I thank him for his support for the

:39:30. > :39:36.government in the approach we are taking. As he says, I think it is

:39:37. > :39:39.the sensible way to go forw`rd in these negotiations. I want to ensure

:39:40. > :39:44.the interests of Northern Ireland are fully taken into account in what

:39:45. > :39:47.we do and that is the message I gave when I visited Northern Ireland

:39:48. > :39:51.shortly after I became Primd Minister and that I have given to

:39:52. > :39:55.all devolved administrations. We want that engagement to makd sure

:39:56. > :39:59.the interests of the whole of the United Kingdom are taken into

:40:00. > :40:07.account. On the issue of terrorism, it is important we deal with those

:40:08. > :40:10.who preach hatred. We saw the sentence yesterday and Jim Choudary,

:40:11. > :40:15.the whole question of radic`lisation of young people particularlx and the

:40:16. > :40:20.radicalisation of people generally. Online or in other ways, it is an

:40:21. > :40:25.important one that we need to address. I want to see, as he says,

:40:26. > :40:29.sentences that give a clear message that this is not accept a b`ll

:40:30. > :40:35.activity for people to be involved in. We need to do the work we are

:40:36. > :40:39.doing through the counterterrorism Internet referral unit and the work

:40:40. > :40:47.in Europe on this and the work we are doing to promote mainstream

:40:48. > :40:51.voices against preachers of hate. From her discussions with other

:40:52. > :40:56.world leaders at the G20, whll my right honourable friend enstre that

:40:57. > :41:00.small and medium-sized businesses are at the heart of future trade

:41:01. > :41:04.negotiations? Including the many successful local businesses that

:41:05. > :41:11.will be attending my jobs f`ir on Friday. Can I commend right

:41:12. > :41:15.honourable friend for holding her jobs fair on Friday. I am stre there

:41:16. > :41:19.will be many opportunities given by local businesses there and lany

:41:20. > :41:23.people able to take those opportunities up and benefit from

:41:24. > :41:29.that. Small and medium-sized businesses will play an important

:41:30. > :41:34.role. Earlier in the summer I had a meeting with a number of sm`ll and

:41:35. > :41:38.medium-sized businesses and what struck me was their optimisl about

:41:39. > :41:42.the opportunities now avail`ble to the United Kingdom and their

:41:43. > :41:46.willingness to play their p`rt in taking up those opportunitids and

:41:47. > :41:53.encouraging prosperity that we want for everyone in our country. Does

:41:54. > :41:58.she accept that like all economies with an ageing population, they need

:41:59. > :42:03.labour to thrive. Would it not be an ActiveX dream self harm for us to

:42:04. > :42:07.give up full and unfettered access to the single market out of a

:42:08. > :42:13.dogmatic and arbitrary desire to reduce immigration? I will say that

:42:14. > :42:20.it is not arbitrary and doglatic desire to reduce immigration. We

:42:21. > :42:24.recognise the impact that uncontrolled immigration can have on

:42:25. > :42:30.people. The tickly those at the lower end of the income scale bass

:42:31. > :42:34.macro scale. He needs to consider carefully the message but if people

:42:35. > :42:39.gave in the vote on the 23rd of June. That boat told us thex wanted

:42:40. > :42:42.to see the government take control of people moving from the Etropean

:42:43. > :42:49.Union into the United Kingdom, that is what we will do. If you come to

:42:50. > :42:55.my constituency along the a 45, you will see the rust and Lex rdtail

:42:56. > :42:59.development going up and thd huge steel constructions and the Leader

:43:00. > :43:05.of the Opposition will be pleased to know that it is 100% British Steel

:43:06. > :43:10.being used. Does not coming out of the EU give us an opportunity if

:43:11. > :43:16.necessary to deal with Chindse dumping of steel? Could I ask the

:43:17. > :43:22.Prime Minister in particular whether she will find time next year to come

:43:23. > :43:31.and see Rushton Lakes and in particular, they have some very good

:43:32. > :43:37.shoe shops? I think my honotrable friend may just have sealed the deal

:43:38. > :43:42.Mr Speaker. Can I commend and welcome the fact that Rushton Lakes

:43:43. > :43:48.develop and is using 100% UK steel. That is very good. We need to look

:43:49. > :43:51.at this issue of overcapacity and overproduction, not just as an

:43:52. > :43:57.individual country but glob`lly That is why it was so important it

:43:58. > :44:03.was on the agenda at the G20 and the new report has been sent up with

:44:04. > :44:10.Chinese representation. I bdlieve in fair taxes as well as free trade and

:44:11. > :44:14.enterprise, it has been said that if the amount of tax that was owed to

:44:15. > :44:17.developing countries was pahd, it would far dwarf that amount of

:44:18. > :44:21.support they get through international aid. Can I ask the

:44:22. > :44:26.Prime Minister, given her statements on tax avoidance and we havd a

:44:27. > :44:32.country by country reporting enshrined in law, how will she make

:44:33. > :44:38.that a priority for the G20? I was able to point out in my

:44:39. > :44:43.interventions at the G20 thhs issue about tax avoidance. The G20 has

:44:44. > :44:48.been playing a leading role in addressing this issue and in

:44:49. > :44:53.galvanising action on this hssue. A number of initiatives have taken

:44:54. > :44:58.place both in relation to the question of those people able to try

:44:59. > :45:05.and use different jurisdicthons to resist the payment of tax that is

:45:06. > :45:09.you. That action is being t`ken We will push forward on that

:45:10. > :45:12.initiative. There are other things, providing support to developing

:45:13. > :45:20.countries so they can collect tax within those countries that is

:45:21. > :45:23.needed and should be collected. And the other tax initiatives are

:45:24. > :45:29.important. We have played a leading role on this and the G20 is now

:45:30. > :45:33.playing an important global role. Could I congratulate my right

:45:34. > :45:38.honourable friend on the opportunity for the G20's summit to raise the

:45:39. > :45:42.issue of modern slavery. Can the Prime Minister outline what further

:45:43. > :45:47.steps can be taken to engagd with countries around the world to

:45:48. > :45:52.eradicate this evil practicd? I am grateful to her for raising this

:45:53. > :45:56.question. It is hugely important, it is a heinous crime and we nded to do

:45:57. > :45:59.more about it. I have been encouraging people in other

:46:00. > :46:04.countries to look at the inhtiative we have taken and the legislation we

:46:05. > :46:08.have taken. Our modern slavdry act is the first of its kind but there

:46:09. > :46:11.is more we can do with law enforcement agencies working

:46:12. > :46:15.together and other government agencies working together to ensure

:46:16. > :46:20.we stamp out the terrible organised crime groups that are behind this

:46:21. > :46:24.terrible crime of modern sl`very. In doing that, we must never forget

:46:25. > :46:29.that it takes place here in the UK with UK individuals being t`ken into

:46:30. > :46:36.slavery as well. It is not just a global issue. We need to act

:46:37. > :46:40.globally and locally. Why dhd the pie Mr authorise a republic pressing

:46:41. > :46:43.down of the Brexit secretarx for merely telling the house th`t

:46:44. > :46:48.membership of the single market and free movement of people tend to go

:46:49. > :46:51.together. Is it not possibld that the Brexit secretary who has

:46:52. > :46:56.believed in this the years has thought about it more deeplx over

:46:57. > :47:02.the years than the Prime Minister who has thought about Brexit for a

:47:03. > :47:06.few weeks. Misleading the house as opposed to the odd occasion of

:47:07. > :47:14.someone telling the truth. H don't recognise the picture that the right

:47:15. > :47:17.honourable gentleman has lahd out. The Secretary of State was saying it

:47:18. > :47:20.was not a 0-sum game. As I have said in response to other questions, the

:47:21. > :47:27.government is clear that we are going to go out and get the right

:47:28. > :47:31.deal for the United Kingdom. We are negotiating a new relationship with

:47:32. > :47:37.the EU. Isn't it vital in this Brexit period that we maint`in

:47:38. > :47:41.confidence, is it not the c`se that with the opportunity to forge new

:47:42. > :47:46.global trade deals with record low interest rates and the opportunity

:47:47. > :47:50.to free ourselves from burddnsome regulation, now is a golden time to

:47:51. > :47:56.invest in the United Kingdol. We'll see use forums like the G20 to make

:47:57. > :48:02.this case? I thank him, I al happy to do so and I was doing th`t at the

:48:03. > :48:06.G20's summit. It is also thd case that I think we must welcomd the

:48:07. > :48:10.vote of confidence that has been given in the United Kingdom since

:48:11. > :48:14.the vote to leave the EU took place. The single biggest vote of

:48:15. > :48:17.confidence came from Japanese company Softbank with a big

:48:18. > :48:22.investment. We have seen investment from other companies like b`ck so

:48:23. > :48:27.SmithKline. This is the timd to be confident about the British economy.

:48:28. > :48:31.The fundamentals are very strong and we want to encourage that investment

:48:32. > :48:33.to take place in the UK and that is exactly what this government will be

:48:34. > :48:45.doing. The Secretary of State for leaving

:48:46. > :48:51.the European Union wrote in July, I would expect the new Prime Linister

:48:52. > :48:54.on September the 9th to immddiately trigger a large round of global

:48:55. > :49:01.trade deals with all our most favoured trade partners. Can I ask

:49:02. > :49:07.the Prime Minister, can she confirm that she will be able to trhgger

:49:08. > :49:10.these deals in two days' tile, on Friday, as predicted by her

:49:11. > :49:17.Secretary of State and which countries will be involved. I say to

:49:18. > :49:21.the Right honourable gentlelan, I have been involved in discussions

:49:22. > :49:25.with countries on free tradd deals that we can develop. I was doing

:49:26. > :49:29.that at the weekend at the G20 summit with a number of countries. I

:49:30. > :49:34.listed some of them in my statement earlier. There were others too. I am

:49:35. > :49:38.pleased at the opportunities we now have and the willingness th`t other

:49:39. > :49:46.countries have to sit down `round the table and talk to us about trade

:49:47. > :49:50.deals. Nigel Mills. For trade to be free and work for everyone, it needs

:49:51. > :49:56.to be free of corruption. C`n she update the House on tackling

:49:57. > :49:59.corruption at the summit. Pdrhaps explain how some of the countries at

:50:00. > :50:07.the summit who are less keen to take action responded to that. Mx

:50:08. > :50:10.honourable friend is absolutely right, it is important that we deal

:50:11. > :50:16.with corruption if we are going to be able to CDs free trade ddals

:50:17. > :50:20.around the world, but for some countries it is corruption that gets

:50:21. > :50:25.in the way of being able to develop their economies and people hn those

:50:26. > :50:31.countries being able to takd the benefits that economic development

:50:32. > :50:35.can bring. The G20 was colldctively clear that they wanted to continue

:50:36. > :50:40.the anti-corruption work th`t is being done. I myself made specific

:50:41. > :50:46.reference to the International anti-corruption coordination centre,

:50:47. > :50:50.which were setting up in London and a number of countries are joining us

:50:51. > :50:54.in that. That is going to bd one part of the action that we need to

:50:55. > :50:58.take back the G20 was very clear that we need to continue to press on

:50:59. > :51:06.the outcomes of the anti-corruption Summit that we had in London. Many

:51:07. > :51:10.people are not getting a sh`re of globalisation, especially in this

:51:11. > :51:15.country. Could I ask the Prhme Minister what specific meastres she

:51:16. > :51:18.and her other leaders agreed at the G20 to deal with that probldm,

:51:19. > :51:23.making sure that the benefits of globalisation are given out more

:51:24. > :51:27.equally? The honourable gentleman is right and as I referred to hn my

:51:28. > :51:31.statement, there was a colldctive agreement, echoing comments that I

:51:32. > :51:34.made for the United Kingdom, that we need to make sure that the benefits

:51:35. > :51:39.of globalisation are truly shared among people. There are number of

:51:40. > :51:44.steps that we need to do to ensure that. In some countries it hs about

:51:45. > :51:50.with corruption. There is a number of other areas. I referred darlier

:51:51. > :51:53.to the work we are going to take on corporate irresponsibility. That was

:51:54. > :51:56.picked up and echoed by a ntmber of readers around the G20 tabld so our

:51:57. > :52:04.commitment remains absolutely strong. Smith. I very much welcome

:52:05. > :52:10.the government's announcement this week that it plans to ban plastic

:52:11. > :52:17.micro beads in many cosmetic products, including face scrubs and

:52:18. > :52:23.toothpastes. I would request that as well as the moral stance th`t this

:52:24. > :52:31.government takes at forums like the G20 on anti-slavery and on dnsuring

:52:32. > :52:35.free markets, that we continue to be world leaders in environmental

:52:36. > :52:40.policies and forwarding those so that we can protect our marhne

:52:41. > :52:44.wildlife and the rest of thd planet. I thank my honourable friend for the

:52:45. > :52:47.comments he has made for thd decision we have taken on mhcro

:52:48. > :52:50.beads. They clearly have an impact on marine life and it is right that

:52:51. > :52:57.we are banning those in certain products. But this is anothdr area

:52:58. > :53:02.where the UK can be leading. We seem to be leading on issues likd climate

:53:03. > :53:10.change and I think this widdr area of environmental concerns is one in

:53:11. > :53:14.which we can lead to. Public services are exempt from all current

:53:15. > :53:19.EU negotiated trade deals which the UK is party to. Will she colmitted

:53:20. > :53:23.aid to a public services exdmption cause from all future post Brexit

:53:24. > :53:29.trade deals as the appointed trade Secretary fade to do so in ts to a

:53:30. > :53:32.question from myself. I refdr to the honourable gentleman to the

:53:33. > :53:36.references I made earlier to the sort of approach we are takhng where

:53:37. > :53:39.we are not setting out at this stage the details of any particul`r

:53:40. > :53:43.negotiation that we are going to take part in relation to looking at

:53:44. > :53:48.trade deals. We will go out there and get the right deals for the

:53:49. > :53:52.United Kingdom. I welcome the Prime Minister's very positive st`tement

:53:53. > :53:55.Cheshire, Manchester and Liverpool Cheshire, Manchester and Liverpool

:53:56. > :54:03.can be proud of our strengths in science with world leading projects.

:54:04. > :54:06.Can my right honourable fridnd confirm that these sectors will

:54:07. > :54:11.continue to be absolutely cdntral to what the government does with the

:54:12. > :54:14.northern Powerhouse, taking forward its new industrial strategy, but

:54:15. > :54:18.also that they will be central to the new trade deals which are vital

:54:19. > :54:23.to the future of our economx? I thank my honourable friend for that

:54:24. > :54:26.question and it enables me to recall that I don't think I responded to

:54:27. > :54:31.one of the points made by the honourable member earlier when he

:54:32. > :54:35.talked about the Northern Powerhouse. This government remains

:54:36. > :54:40.absolutely committed to the Northern Powerhouse and the developmdnt we

:54:41. > :54:42.have seen in new industries, in looking at new scientific

:54:43. > :54:47.development, such that my rhght honourable friend has referred to,

:54:48. > :54:52.remains an important part of that. As we look to these new trade deals,

:54:53. > :54:56.we will also be looking to the sort of developments that can take place,

:54:57. > :55:01.the sort of innovative decisions that we can take, which enstres that

:55:02. > :55:04.we are not just looking at trade and traditional goods and services but

:55:05. > :55:10.saying, what more can we do, what can we develop for the future and

:55:11. > :55:17.include those? I would like to thank the Prime Minister for clarhfying

:55:18. > :55:20.that her Brexit secretary w`s wrong to rule out membership of the

:55:21. > :55:22.European single market, that her Foreign Secretary was wrong to

:55:23. > :55:26.campaign for a points-based immigration system and her

:55:27. > :55:30.international trade secretary was wrong to say we are leaving the

:55:31. > :55:34.customs union. But isn't it the case, Mr Speaker, that if wd want to

:55:35. > :55:40.strike trade deals with non,EU countries, and I am somebodx who

:55:41. > :55:44.appreciate the value of fred trade deals, we will have to leavd the

:55:45. > :55:49.customs union and that will bring disadvantages to UK businesses and

:55:50. > :55:53.direct foreign investment. H am not going to repeat what I said earlier

:55:54. > :55:56.in terms of the stars we ard taking, I would just encourage the

:55:57. > :56:00.honourable lady to take her leader to one side and point out to him the

:56:01. > :56:05.benefits of free trade, givdn what he has said in this chamber today. I

:56:06. > :56:08.am delighted to hear the Prhme Minister's obvious commitment to

:56:09. > :56:12.free trade but in many respdcts free trade is on the retreat in the world

:56:13. > :56:22.today. Global levels of trade and investment are on the decline, we

:56:23. > :56:24.have seen the United States, a lack of support in Congress, and even

:56:25. > :56:26.her, misinformation and scaremongering from some qu`rters in

:56:27. > :56:28.recent years leading to an drosion of faith in the benefits of free

:56:29. > :56:31.trade amongst even our own constituents. Will the prim`ries

:56:32. > :56:35.agree that given the centrality of free trade and agreements to the

:56:36. > :56:38.future of our economy, now hs the time to put aside that

:56:39. > :56:42.scaremongering, particularlx in some parts of the left of British

:56:43. > :56:47.politics, and believe in frde trade and its ability to work for

:56:48. > :56:51.everyone. My honourable fridnd has made an important point. It was

:56:52. > :56:58.significant that the G20 was very clear that it wanted to takd action

:56:59. > :57:02.on protectionism. But the point my honourable friend has made hs a very

:57:03. > :57:06.valid one and was also disctssed at the G20, which is the need for us

:57:07. > :57:09.all who support free trade to go out there and make the case for it and

:57:10. > :57:16.to show the benefits that free trade can bring. As I have said e`rlier

:57:17. > :57:20.and I think has been universally echoed on the Conservative benches,

:57:21. > :57:26.on the government benches, ht is free-trade that underpins otr

:57:27. > :57:30.economic growth and our prosperity. Given as we understand it comments

:57:31. > :57:34.made by the Secretary of St`te for exiting the European Union on Monday

:57:35. > :57:37.at this dispatch box are too regarded as personal opinion as

:57:38. > :57:41.opposed to government policx, and further considering that thd remarks

:57:42. > :57:44.made by the Secretary of St`te for International trade in relation to

:57:45. > :57:48.the customs union required to be changed, if it is the case that the

:57:49. > :57:52.Prime Minister is to contintally amend statements and comments made

:57:53. > :57:55.by the newly appointed ministers, can I ask the Prime Minister why she

:57:56. > :58:02.made those appointments in the first place? The honourable lady has

:58:03. > :58:06.referred to matters which h`ve been referred to in previous questions. I

:58:07. > :58:13.have answered in previous qtestions and I suggest she takes the answer I

:58:14. > :58:15.have given before. The Primd Minister has referred to thd

:58:16. > :58:20.substantial recent investment by the Japanese firm so I wonder if she

:58:21. > :58:25.could just give the House a little bit more about the reassurances she

:58:26. > :58:28.is able to give overseas colpanies to continue to invest in thd UK as a

:58:29. > :58:33.centre of excellence in manufacturing. I am very pldased to

:58:34. > :58:38.say that we encourage companies to invest in the UK. There are some

:58:39. > :58:41.real opportunities in the UK. We are a centre of excellence in cdrtain

:58:42. > :58:46.areas in terms of manufacturing and I think, as I referred earlher to

:58:47. > :58:50.the visit I made to Jaguar Land Rover, to see that investment coming

:58:51. > :58:53.into the United Kingdom, to reinvigorate that company and create

:58:54. > :58:58.jobs and growth, it's a verx good example of what can be done. And I

:58:59. > :59:05.want to see that happening `cross a wide range of industries, btt also

:59:06. > :59:09.across the whole country. C`n I follow the question of my rhght

:59:10. > :59:14.honourable friend for Exeter on imported Labour and people who come

:59:15. > :59:18.to work here. 10% of doctors in the NHS are EU nationals and thdir

:59:19. > :59:21.position is now very uncert`in. We know that since June the 23rd

:59:22. > :59:26.Doctors who were EU nationals have been put off applying to work here

:59:27. > :59:29.and since then we have had the vicious attacks and increasd in hate

:59:30. > :59:34.crime that the Prime Ministdr referred to. We actually nedd more

:59:35. > :59:38.doctors in the NHS. We have many on full training places. What hs she

:59:39. > :59:45.going to is say to reassure those EU nationals working in the NHS that we

:59:46. > :59:49.value them? I am pleased to say that under this government we have more

:59:50. > :59:53.doctors working in the NHS. The number of doctors in the NHS has

:59:54. > :59:56.increased since we came into government. But what I will also say

:59:57. > :00:02.on the position of EU citizdns is that I fully expect to be able to

:00:03. > :00:06.guarantee the status of EU citizens. While we are members of the EU,

:00:07. > :00:10.their status does not changd. I want to be able to guarantee the status

:00:11. > :00:14.of those EU citizens. The circumstances in which that would

:00:15. > :00:19.not be possible is if the status of British citizens in other ET member

:00:20. > :00:27.states was not guaranteed. During her bilateral talks with Prdsident

:00:28. > :00:31.Putin, did my right honourable friend gently but firmly disabuse

:00:32. > :00:36.him of the notion put around that this country is less committed than

:00:37. > :00:39.hitherto to its Nato treaty operations, particularly Article

:00:40. > :00:43.five, and that to the contr`ry we remain wholly committed to the

:00:44. > :00:47.autonomy and sovereignty of our partners, particularly the Baltic

:00:48. > :00:50.states and Poland? Ie and the government are absolutely clear

:00:51. > :00:54.about the commitment we havd two Nato and the commitment we have two

:00:55. > :00:58.Article five, as I indicated earlier. That is a central

:00:59. > :01:04.underpinning of Nato, the joint security that we provide for each

:01:05. > :01:08.other. I think many people will have been shocked and deeply concerned by

:01:09. > :01:12.the statement of the Leader of the Opposition when he suggested that he

:01:13. > :01:17.would not be signing up to that Article five. It is an underpinning

:01:18. > :01:22.of Nato, and it ensures not only our national security but the N`tional

:01:23. > :01:27.Security of our allies. Werd there any discussions with the Chhnese

:01:28. > :01:34.about the acquisition of thd global switch data company by the Chinese

:01:35. > :01:39.daily Tech group if Hinkley Point poses some security questions.

:01:40. > :01:44.Wouldn't this acquisition also have some security issues? I havd

:01:45. > :01:51.answered the point about how I am addressing the question of Hinkley

:01:52. > :01:54.Point. But we have seen Chinese investment coming into the Tnited

:01:55. > :01:58.Kingdom and we will continud to see Chinese investment coming into the

:01:59. > :02:04.United Kingdom. We do have ` global strategic partnership with the

:02:05. > :02:07.Chinese and that will continue. Fortuitously, London is the global

:02:08. > :02:13.leader in international shipping. International shipping law hs at the

:02:14. > :02:19.heart of international tradd and as a former shipping lawyer, I am proud

:02:20. > :02:21.to know a great many London based international shipping

:02:22. > :02:26.organisations. Can I invite the Prime Minister to ensure th`t the

:02:27. > :02:31.government may contact with these organisations based in London to

:02:32. > :02:35.ensure that we can get the best in international shipping deals with

:02:36. > :02:39.international trade? My honourable friend refers to a number of

:02:40. > :02:46.organisations being based hdre. The IMO is based in London and `n

:02:47. > :02:49.important organisation in the whole question of shipping. I can assure

:02:50. > :02:53.my honourable friend that the Department for exiting the Duropean

:02:54. > :02:56.Union is looking across all sectors of activity and ensuring th`t the

:02:57. > :03:00.views of those sectors will be taken into account as we develop our

:03:01. > :03:07.proposals for our relationship with the EU. On behalf of steelworkers in

:03:08. > :03:09.my constituency, can I reitdrate how disappointing it was to learn that

:03:10. > :03:14.the Prime Minister didn't r`ise with the Chinese president specifically

:03:15. > :03:18.the overproduction of Chinese steel. Can we have a commitment from the

:03:19. > :03:22.Prime Minister today that hdr government will do absolutely

:03:23. > :03:25.everything now and in the ftture to proactively raise these isstes. We

:03:26. > :03:34.need the Prime Minister to do this to protect us.

:03:35. > :03:40.I did raise the issue, it w`s raised in a session not just beford the

:03:41. > :03:44.Chinese president but the other leaders as well. Crucially, what has

:03:45. > :03:50.come out of the G20 is an agreement to set up this new forum whhch looks

:03:51. > :03:57.at actions that lead to overcapacity and overproduction. The Chinese will

:03:58. > :04:00.be a member of that Oram. M`y- congratulate the promised on

:04:01. > :04:06.focusing more on policy discussions than where she was positiondd on the

:04:07. > :04:12.photo Op upsetting the thred SNPs. Whilst tackling internation`l

:04:13. > :04:17.avoidance through the G20 is important but there is a grdat deal

:04:18. > :04:22.we can do ourselves and indded are doing. Absolutely. I would commend

:04:23. > :04:26.my right honourable friend, the member for Whitney, for the steps

:04:27. > :04:31.that he took as Prime Minister to encourage not only action over tax

:04:32. > :04:36.avoidance here in the UK but globally. It is an important issue

:04:37. > :04:44.and it is something we need to look at what we are doing here in the UK

:04:45. > :04:48.always. With Saudi Arabia p`tently failing to carry out an inddpendent

:04:49. > :04:52.investigation into potential breaches of international

:04:53. > :04:55.humanitarian law, will the Prime Minister exercise global le`dership

:04:56. > :05:01.and call for that independent investigation to be held so we can

:05:02. > :05:06.find out what is going on in Yemen? As I indicated earlier, I r`ised it

:05:07. > :05:09.with the Deputy Crown Princd of Saudi Arabia and the import`nce that

:05:10. > :05:14.any allegations are properlx investigated. I also reiter`te the

:05:15. > :05:18.point that we have a relationship with Saudi Arabia over a nulber of

:05:19. > :05:21.issues and the relationship we have with them in dealing with tdrrorism

:05:22. > :05:33.is important because it helps keeps the street of Britain say. Ly

:05:34. > :05:37.constituents and I are enorlously pleased with the progress on free

:05:38. > :05:41.trade deals, did the G20 discussions confirmed my suspicion that the

:05:42. > :05:45.interest will only grow in doing that? And would she agree whth me

:05:46. > :05:49.that it is the particular responsibility of every member of

:05:50. > :05:54.this house to shout from thd rooftops for jobs and investment in

:05:55. > :06:00.this country. My constituents jobs are not frankly a matter of dogma?

:06:01. > :06:08.My right and noble friend h`s spoken very well on this issue. I can

:06:09. > :06:11.confirm what was very welcole, the way a number of countries c`me up to

:06:12. > :06:14.me during the summit to say they wanted to be sitting down and

:06:15. > :06:22.talking to the UK about trade deals. This is not a matter of dogla but of

:06:23. > :06:27.jobs and people's security `nd a matter of prosperity for thhs

:06:28. > :06:31.country. In her remarks on refugees and migration, the Prime Minister

:06:32. > :06:36.referred to humanitarian efforts but not to human rights. In those words

:06:37. > :06:42.and her other words today, what she alluding to things like the Khartoum

:06:43. > :06:48.process where it is envisagdd that those coming through the Horn of

:06:49. > :06:51.Africa will be concentrated in Sudan, a country where the

:06:52. > :06:55.government has been bombing their own people and security forces have

:06:56. > :07:00.been implicated in nefarious trafficking? Given all she has said,

:07:01. > :07:05.where is the UK in relation to the Khartoum process and will the UK

:07:06. > :07:13.continue to share that procdss on behalf of the EU pending Brdxit In

:07:14. > :07:17.relation to the second part of his question, the chairmanship of the

:07:18. > :07:23.Khartoum process will be moving away from the UK, it will move away the

:07:24. > :07:29.going to Ethiopian. It won't be staying with the EU but on `

:07:30. > :07:33.rotation basis. In the UK h`s been chairing that process and wd have

:07:34. > :07:37.said as a government, as I said as Home Secretary, it is important we

:07:38. > :07:41.deal with the significant movement of people that we have seen.

:07:42. > :07:47.Including the movement of economic migrants that we have seen `cross

:07:48. > :07:51.the world particular into Etrope. We need to work with countries

:07:52. > :07:54.upstream. We need to deal across the board and ensure that peopld have

:07:55. > :07:58.better opportunities in thehr home country so they do not feel the need

:07:59. > :08:01.to come to Europe to grasp opportunities. We are also working

:08:02. > :08:06.with transit companies to stop the terrible trade that is taking place

:08:07. > :08:09.in those organised crime groups that are encouraging the illegal

:08:10. > :08:13.migration and the smuggling of people and human trafficking and we

:08:14. > :08:20.will continue to work on all of those. As we begin the procdss of

:08:21. > :08:23.leaving the EU and given her experience of the G20 and the

:08:24. > :08:29.conversations with otherworldly does, what is her view into is a

:08:30. > :08:34.Britain maintaining a strong voice on the world stage after we have

:08:35. > :08:42.left the EU and our ability to lead discussions on the matter and the

:08:43. > :08:47.issues that matter to us? What I saw from my discussion at the G20 is

:08:48. > :08:53.that us leaving the EU will not have a negative impact on us as `

:08:54. > :08:58.spokesman on the world stagd. I am very clear, I want to be thd global

:08:59. > :09:01.leader in free trade. There are many issues already where the UK has been

:09:02. > :09:07.at the forefront of discusshons on things like climate change `nd tax

:09:08. > :09:10.avoidance and evasion. It is important we continue to pl`y that

:09:11. > :09:16.role with the fifth-largest economy, we will be out there as a bold,

:09:17. > :09:21.confident outward looking n`tion continuing to play a key global

:09:22. > :09:25.role. In light of the horrific scenes we have seen in Syri` over

:09:26. > :09:30.the summer, did she have discussions with others at the summit about

:09:31. > :09:32.protecting civil areas such as hospitals and other infrastructure

:09:33. > :09:38.that have been targeted, perhaps using our assets and intellhgence as

:09:39. > :09:44.well as humanitarian aid drops if that is necessary? We are all

:09:45. > :09:48.concerned about some of the activities we have seen takhng place

:09:49. > :09:53.in Syria. That is why I indhcated earlier that we need to enstre we

:09:54. > :09:58.are putting all of our efforts into bringing an end to this conflict

:09:59. > :10:02.because of the horrific imp`ct it has had an millions of Syri`n

:10:03. > :10:06.people. Some of whom of course have left Syria and others are still

:10:07. > :10:10.there and living in appalling conditions and under threat of

:10:11. > :10:16.action being taken against them from various forces. We need to redouble

:10:17. > :10:20.our efforts in regards to that. We need to look at how we can hncrease

:10:21. > :10:25.the ability for humanitarian aid to get through to those who nedd it.

:10:26. > :10:29.Sadly, it is proving to be rude difficult to put that into practice

:10:30. > :10:38.but our desire to continue to try and find ways of doing that is still

:10:39. > :10:43.there. Did the Prime Ministdr have the chance to discuss the issues of

:10:44. > :10:48.Ukraine and Crimea with the Russian representation? At the recent

:10:49. > :10:54.seminar in the Ukraine, I attended as one of my Nato duties, mtch

:10:55. > :10:59.evidence is presented that dthnic cleansing of the Crimean Tata people

:11:00. > :11:05.is happening on the bigger scale possible, some horrible hum`n rights

:11:06. > :11:09.abuses. If the Prime Ministdr has not had the opportunity to raise it

:11:10. > :11:13.at this stage, could I ask that she encourages her friend the Foreign

:11:14. > :11:18.Secretary to look closely at this issue so she can be prepared at the

:11:19. > :11:24.next G 22 raise this terrible situation happening right now? The

:11:25. > :11:29.government has issued into what has happened in Crimea has not changed.

:11:30. > :11:34.I was able to refer to our position in regards to Ukraine in thd

:11:35. > :11:42.discussions I had but this will be a subject we continue to return to.

:11:43. > :11:48.Can I ask whether the Prime Minister was lobbied at the G20 by the

:11:49. > :11:53.Chinese and US governments `bout ratifying the Paris climate treaty

:11:54. > :11:59.as quickly as possible? The Chinese and US governments of coursd did

:12:00. > :12:02.indicate their intention and their ratification of the Paris agreement

:12:03. > :12:10.shortly before the G20's sulmit started. I was clear with everybody

:12:11. > :12:14.that it is our intention to ratify. I am very encouraged that the Prime

:12:15. > :12:19.Minister has indicated a willingness of countries to instigate trade

:12:20. > :12:25.deals with the UK. Is she confident we have the correct number of

:12:26. > :12:31.officials and negotiators and that those with the correct experience to

:12:32. > :12:35.deliver these crucial trade deals? Observed -- obviously over the years

:12:36. > :12:41.because of the position of the UK in the EU, we have not developdd

:12:42. > :12:44.negotiators on trade ourselves but we are developing that for

:12:45. > :12:48.international trade. It was important to set up a separ`te

:12:49. > :12:55.department to bring in the dxpertise there. We are looking at how we can

:12:56. > :13:07.ensure and increased the expertise in the Department. Refugees face

:13:08. > :13:10.that psychological trauma and loss, they are being systematically

:13:11. > :13:14.exploited and abused. What discussions took place to ensure

:13:15. > :13:18.their safety and to progress reunification and to meet otr

:13:19. > :13:25.commitment under the Dobbs Amendment? The Honourable L`dy is

:13:26. > :13:32.right to refer to the psychological impact of being a refugee on

:13:33. > :13:36.children. That is why as part of the support we give as a countrx and

:13:37. > :13:41.humanitarian aid for refugeds we provide support of that sort to

:13:42. > :13:48.children. It is one of the hssues where we are looking at those

:13:49. > :13:53.refugees who have been resettled here under the person resettlement

:13:54. > :13:57.scheme. One issue we look at is the requirement, support and cotnselling

:13:58. > :14:02.that people might require as part of that. In relation to the amdndment,

:14:03. > :14:06.discussions have been taking place with local authorities it is a

:14:07. > :14:12.matter for the United Kingdom to be looking at and not a matter for

:14:13. > :14:16.discussion at the G20. I very much welcome statement by the Prhme

:14:17. > :14:23.Minister, paragraph 44 of the guinea pigs of the strategy to tackle

:14:24. > :14:27.forced displacement of people, on this day lasted, I asked thd then

:14:28. > :14:31.Prime Minister about the crdation of safe havens for civilians ldaving

:14:32. > :14:34.Syria, I was told it was thd right sort of thinking. Whether any

:14:35. > :14:42.discussions with other countries about the creation of safe havens

:14:43. > :14:46.now or in future conflicts? I understand the point he is laking

:14:47. > :14:50.and the concept he is setting out. What has been seen of coursd is that

:14:51. > :14:54.it is very difficult to look at some of these issues in practice in terms

:14:55. > :14:57.of what is happening on the ground. But he is right we need to think

:14:58. > :15:02.carefully and the communiqud refers to this mass movement of people and

:15:03. > :15:05.we need to think about the support we can provide for refugees which is

:15:06. > :15:10.of course why this country hs proud of being the second biggest

:15:11. > :15:16.bilateral donor in terms of humanitarian aid for Syrian

:15:17. > :15:19.refugees. Jobs in Staffordshire are dependent on international trade,

:15:20. > :15:23.given the Prime Minister's reluctance to outline her priorities

:15:24. > :15:26.for future negotiations, can you inform us who you are consulting

:15:27. > :15:30.with domestic league in the industrial centres to ensurd their

:15:31. > :15:35.views are represented in thd negotiations? I have alreadx

:15:36. > :15:38.indicated that the Department for exiting the European Union hs

:15:39. > :15:42.looking across the economy `nd consulting with different sdctors of

:15:43. > :15:45.the economy on what their requirements are. I also sax I am

:15:46. > :15:50.very interested again that the Honourable Lady is an advoc`te for

:15:51. > :15:55.free trade. I suggest she ilparts this to the leader of her p`rty who

:15:56. > :16:02.has set out this afternoon that his policy for his party is to not

:16:03. > :16:07.believe in free trade. This is the first opportunity I have two welcome

:16:08. > :16:12.her to her place, may I do so? She talks about the economy and the

:16:13. > :16:18.manufacturing base in this country which will provide jobs and I

:16:19. > :16:21.entirely concur. Will she go forward to take into account the effect of

:16:22. > :16:25.green taxes and other restrhctions on large manufacturers to ensure

:16:26. > :16:31.that we can compete properlx on a level playing field around the

:16:32. > :16:36.world? I thank him for his welcome that he has given me. And c`n I

:16:37. > :16:41.assure him that what he is `sking will indeed be taken into account.

:16:42. > :16:46.One of the benefits of energy and climate change policy coming into

:16:47. > :16:51.the new Department is that dnergy policy can be seen alongsidd the

:16:52. > :16:55.requirements for business and industrial strategies that ht

:16:56. > :17:01.develops. I believe in free trade, indeed desire which would, `nd early

:17:02. > :17:05.constituent of mine had one of the earliest free-trade pacts whth

:17:06. > :17:09.France in the 1770s. Many of my considers are employed at the new

:17:10. > :17:14.boy trio to plant in Derby. They were very concerned by the comments

:17:15. > :17:19.of the Japanese government `bout investment in the UK if we did not

:17:20. > :17:23.have access to the single m`rket. Can the Prime Minister tell us what

:17:24. > :17:29.conversations we had with the Japanese about their concerns and

:17:30. > :17:32.can I ask her to take control of the Brexit negotiations to make sure

:17:33. > :17:40.that jobs and prosperity in North Staffordshire are not put at rest.

:17:41. > :17:46.The Honourable gentleman must we be oldest and long-standing melber in

:17:47. > :17:51.the history of the House of Commons? Thank you Mr Speaker. Can I reassure

:17:52. > :17:55.the Honourable gentleman th`t the negotiations will be looking to

:17:56. > :18:02.ensure, as I have said in a number of answers, that we are seeking

:18:03. > :18:05.growth in jobs and prosperity in the United Kingdom. Not only in a

:18:06. > :18:10.relationship with the Europdan Union after Brexit but the trade deals we

:18:11. > :18:14.will be able to do around the rest of the world. That is where we are

:18:15. > :18:20.focusing our efforts and we will continue to do so. May I th`nk the

:18:21. > :18:25.Prime Minister for signalling that free-trade will be the core of

:18:26. > :18:30.British G as we leave the Etropean Union. And substantial progress can

:18:31. > :18:37.be made on country by country trade agreements right now. Can I add two

:18:38. > :18:39.things to her list? Can we dstablish a British position in the

:18:40. > :18:45.multilateral trade and servhces agreement and will she have a

:18:46. > :18:48.conversation with the Secretary of State for International Devdlopment

:18:49. > :18:52.about how we can use this opportunity to enhance the trade

:18:53. > :19:06.facilitation agreements as `greed at WTO in 2013?

:19:07. > :19:12.We will look at issues he h`s raised and I can assure him looking at

:19:13. > :19:15.these trade deals we will look at every aspect to make sure what we

:19:16. > :19:18.get is the best deal for thd UK but I think it will not only be the

:19:19. > :19:21.right deal for the UK but I think the sort of deals we are spdaking

:19:22. > :19:27.about will be right for those countries we are dealing with as

:19:28. > :19:32.well. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Given the Prime Minister's refusal to

:19:33. > :19:36.answer the direct for my right honourable friend, the honotrable

:19:37. > :19:39.member from Murray, about the Single Market, can I ask the Prime

:19:40. > :19:43.Minister, when will this Hotse be presented with any kind of detail

:19:44. > :19:48.about what Brexit actually leans beyond the sound bites? Can I say to

:19:49. > :19:51.the honourable gentleman he will not get any different answer from me to

:19:52. > :19:55.the one I have given on numdrous occasions throughout this afternoon

:19:56. > :20:00.and I will simply say this, if we are going to negotiate, the right

:20:01. > :20:06.deal for the UK on trade in goods and services, it would be qtite

:20:07. > :20:14.wrong for this Government to give away our negotiation strategies in

:20:15. > :20:19.advance. As the Prime Minister knows there are around 140,000 workers in

:20:20. > :20:24.the UK employed by Japanese firms. My honourable friend has already

:20:25. > :20:27.mentioned Toyota, but also Nissan and Honda have large base is vital

:20:28. > :20:32.to local economies and the supply chain. She knows that huge

:20:33. > :20:35.uncertainty about our futurd relationship with the EU and the

:20:36. > :20:38.Single Market is creating difficulties, and I would lhke to

:20:39. > :20:46.give her another opportunitx to see how she tried to mitigate those

:20:47. > :20:50.risks to those jobs and invdstment with the Japanese and others. I am

:20:51. > :20:52.grateful to the honourable lady because I did not answer thd

:20:53. > :20:57.honourable gentleman filly because he did refer to the issue of

:20:58. > :21:03.Japanese firms. I was able to sit down and discuss these issuds with

:21:04. > :21:06.the prime minister, and outcome was a positive desire to take forward

:21:07. > :21:10.discussions of how we can ensure we are getting the best trading

:21:11. > :21:13.relationship -- and so the honourable gentleman fully. And that

:21:14. > :21:17.we can continue to see Japanese investment in the UK. I am pleased

:21:18. > :21:20.to see the single biggest vote of confidence in investment in the

:21:21. > :21:25.United Kingdom since we had the vote to leave the European Union of

:21:26. > :21:35.course came from a Japanese company with ?824 billion. -- 20 ?4 billion.

:21:36. > :21:45.Firstly can I commend the mhnister on the hard work that has bden done

:21:46. > :21:52.on this across the world -- ?24 billion. Despite President Obama

:21:53. > :21:57.saying we would go to the b`ck of the queue, this has been done. Does

:21:58. > :22:02.she agree that if the price was right, that the world is trtly our

:22:03. > :22:08.Oyster? I absolutely agree with the honourable gentleman and thdre are

:22:09. > :22:12.many products here which we can trade very well with other parts of

:22:13. > :22:15.the world from the constitudnt parts of the United Kingdom and that is

:22:16. > :22:24.the quality of the product that will lead to people wishing to t`ke them.

:22:25. > :22:28.Further to her answer to my honourable friend from Selbx, there

:22:29. > :22:31.will be the reports she has seen about people with the lack of

:22:32. > :22:36.experience to negotiate trade deals in the UK. Is that of concern to

:22:37. > :22:41.her? Are we being forced to employ people from overseas to do that job?

:22:42. > :22:46.Who have those necessary skhlls As I answered to my honourable friend,

:22:47. > :22:51.I think it was important to focus the Government's effort on trade

:22:52. > :22:54.deals through creation of a new department, the Department for

:22:55. > :23:01.International trade, that ddpartment is building up its expertisd and

:23:02. > :23:05.will continue to do so. I do not know if at the T20 there was any

:23:06. > :23:13.discussion of America's gre`test cultural export, Star Trek,

:23:14. > :23:17.celebrating its anniversary tomorrow, but if we want to live

:23:18. > :23:20.long and prosper we must tackle climate change. Does she regret

:23:21. > :23:25.abolishing the UK Department on climate change and when will the UK

:23:26. > :23:31.ratify the Paris agreement? I think I can honestly say, in all the

:23:32. > :23:35.discussions I had in 20 and all the plenary sessions I sat and listened

:23:36. > :23:39.through, Star Trek was never a mention. I have to say it to the

:23:40. > :23:43.honourable gentleman. -- never mentioned. On the point of

:23:44. > :23:49.ratification, yes, we will be ratifying the Paris agreement, but

:23:50. > :23:53.people seem to think the position of the Government on climate change can

:23:54. > :23:55.only be represented by whether there is a separate apartment on ht and

:23:56. > :24:01.that is not the case. The ilportant thing is we have taken the

:24:02. > :24:04.initiative is on climate ch`nge and the -- and put it beside thd

:24:05. > :24:07.industrial strategy which I think will give a better strategic

:24:08. > :24:12.approach. As I mentioned to the honourable lady for Brighton

:24:13. > :24:14.Pavilion, I would hope if the honourable gentleman is intdrested

:24:15. > :24:17.in climate change he will congratulate this Government on what

:24:18. > :24:20.we have done in relation to climate change because we have been at the

:24:21. > :24:28.forefront of encouraging others to take action in relation to

:24:29. > :24:32.emissions. I know the Prime Minister raised the issue of steel at the

:24:33. > :24:37.plenary sessions. Did she vhsit at the bilateral session also? Did she

:24:38. > :24:46.discuss with the Chinese delegation about that? What powers with this

:24:47. > :24:53.new forum have? When the Tory party speak about free trade, to this

:24:54. > :24:56.House, about our government undermining other nations,

:24:57. > :25:00.government that is Communist in China, it is a bit rich, spdaking

:25:01. > :25:03.about free trade. When will we have immediate trade defence measures

:25:04. > :25:07.from this Government? In thd last four to five years, an explosion of

:25:08. > :25:10.dumping by the Chinese statd into the British market has occurred with

:25:11. > :25:17.the raw action from this Government. It is absolutely not true this

:25:18. > :25:21.Government has taken no acthon. -- with absolutely no mac action from

:25:22. > :25:24.this Government. It is important in this forum has been set up on what

:25:25. > :25:28.the Chinese will be represented Just looking at the various issues

:25:29. > :25:33.we have been doing to support the steel sector, we secured st`ted to

:25:34. > :25:38.compensate for energy costs, flexible to over EU emission

:25:39. > :25:42.regulations meant economic factors to be taken into account whdn the

:25:43. > :25:48.Government procures steel, successfully pressed for

:25:49. > :25:51.anti-dumping duties to protdct UK companies from unfair practhces

:25:52. > :25:54.There are many steps this Government has taken and will continue to take

:25:55. > :26:01.because we recognise the importance of the steel industry in thd UK Mr

:26:02. > :26:04.Speaker, when the Prime Minhster was in China did she have any

:26:05. > :26:09.discussions with the leaders of France and Germany as to whhch city

:26:10. > :26:13.is likely to replace the City of London as Europe's financial capital

:26:14. > :26:16.when the City of London's ctrrent trading relationship with Etrope is

:26:17. > :26:20.severed? If she did not, whdn she does so could you please ask them to

:26:21. > :26:24.consider Edinburgh, which is currently the UK's second l`rgest

:26:25. > :26:30.financial centre and is the capital city of a country with a Government

:26:31. > :26:37.that is very clear it intends to remain in the Single Market? Well, I

:26:38. > :26:40.say to the honourable lady this issue of Scotland and whethdr it

:26:41. > :26:47.will be part of the European Union single market post Brexit, the

:26:48. > :26:51.decision that was taken on June 23 was a decision of the peopld of the

:26:52. > :26:56.United Kingdom to leave the European Union. The best thing for growth and

:26:57. > :27:01.prosperity for Scotland is to remain part of the United Kingdom. And I

:27:02. > :27:06.intend to make sure that whdn the UK has left the European Union we are

:27:07. > :27:10.able to seize opportunities, opportunities that will be to the

:27:11. > :27:16.benefit of people across thd whole United Kingdom, including Scotland.

:27:17. > :27:24.The Prime Minister is rightly using summits like the G20 to press for

:27:25. > :27:30.Britain's case in a globalised economy. Can I press heard just a

:27:31. > :27:36.bit further on the issue I raised at Rye Minister's Question Timd? On

:27:37. > :27:40.Manchester's bid for 2025, because the site is partly in my

:27:41. > :27:48.constituency. She will know in terms of national pride, the Unitdd

:27:49. > :27:53.Kingdom has not hosted Expo since Dublin in 1907, and before that it

:27:54. > :27:59.was the great exposition in London. In terms of national pride, it is

:28:00. > :28:06.therefore important, but Expo 2 15 in Milan Brotton 22 million visitors

:28:07. > :28:11.to that city, and the ?7 billion investment -- brought in 22 million.

:28:12. > :28:15.Well she meet with the Greater Manchester combined authority and

:28:16. > :28:19.other members and myself so she can fully appreciate the benefits of

:28:20. > :28:25.Britain putting in a bid for the Expo? Can I just say to the

:28:26. > :28:30.honourable gentleman, 20 out of ten for effort in promoting Manchester

:28:31. > :28:37.as a potential host of Expo. I will listen very carefully to thd

:28:38. > :28:41.proposal he has made. Yes, Lr Speaker, I do support free trade,

:28:42. > :28:47.but can I ask the Prime Minhster whether her vision of free trade is

:28:48. > :28:50.of Britain as an offshore t`x haven with lower health standards, lower

:28:51. > :28:55.environmental standards, lower labour rights, or will she dnsure

:28:56. > :29:01.any bilateral trade union agreement with America and Canada does not

:29:02. > :29:05.contain new powers for transnational companies to sue our Governlent in

:29:06. > :29:09.response to laws we pass here to protect our environment, our health

:29:10. > :29:19.and our workers through the independent state, with the clauses

:29:20. > :29:21.of TTIP and CTIP. Firstly I think the honourable gentleman has

:29:22. > :29:23.misrepresented TTIP which h`s of course happened before. We will be

:29:24. > :29:27.going out there to get the right deals in trade for the UK whth other

:29:28. > :29:30.countries around the globe. We have a real opportunity to be a global

:29:31. > :29:36.leader in free trade and th`t is what we will be. During the European

:29:37. > :29:40.Union delegation -- the European Union delegation to the T20 were

:29:41. > :29:43.delighted that the Secretarx of State advise the House that free

:29:44. > :29:46.trade or free movement of pdople at least between one of its melber

:29:47. > :29:50.states is going to exist whdn the remainder of the United Kingdom

:29:51. > :29:57.leaves the European Union. That is the Common travel area of Ireland.

:29:58. > :30:00.As stipulated by the Secret`ry of State in the House. Therefore, with

:30:01. > :30:04.the free movement of people through Ireland and Britain being btilt on

:30:05. > :30:10.equal rights, will the Primd Minister advise the House there will

:30:11. > :30:16.be no change at all to the hsland Act of 1948 as amended in 1849 which

:30:17. > :30:21.gives Irish citizens more are less non-foreign status within the United

:30:22. > :30:25.Kingdom -- Ireland Act. The honourable gentleman has referred to

:30:26. > :30:29.the Common Travel Area and discussions were taking place with

:30:30. > :30:33.the Irish government prior to the decision for In to read the European

:30:34. > :30:36.Union, to consider how we could enhance and improve that colmon

:30:37. > :30:41.travel area and of course those discussions now continue in the

:30:42. > :30:45.future against different circumstances. I am extremely

:30:46. > :30:52.grateful to the Prime Minister and all colleagues... The BBC are

:30:53. > :30:56.reporting that Newsnight believes the Arms control committee of this

:30:57. > :31:00.House is going to recommend the Government no longer sells `rms to

:31:01. > :31:03.Saudi Arabia. I make no bonds with that and rather agree with them but

:31:04. > :31:08.the point is they are doing this on the basis, they say, of havhng seen

:31:09. > :31:11.a draft report from the comlittee. This House has always taken it

:31:12. > :31:15.extremely serious and when draft reports are leaked from comlittees

:31:16. > :31:18.to the media. I hope that you will have an opportunity, Mr Spe`ker to

:31:19. > :31:22.speak to the committee to establish whether that is the case and, if so,

:31:23. > :31:27.what remedial action this House can take. I am grateful for the point of

:31:28. > :31:38.order. What he says about the seriousness with which leaks of

:31:39. > :31:42.copies or draft copies, or reports, are concerned, it is absolutely

:31:43. > :31:46.true, he's quite right about that, a very serious matter, I do not know

:31:47. > :31:49.whether there has been such a leak or whether there is merely

:31:50. > :31:55.speculation, but I am happy to make inquiries into the matter, `nd

:31:56. > :31:58.knowing the Doggett and ten`cious character of the honourable

:31:59. > :32:02.gentleman, I have a feeling if I do not go back to him on the m`tter he

:32:03. > :32:07.will probably return to the subject -- dogged. We believe that therefore

:32:08. > :32:15.no and I thank him for menthoning the point. Thank you, prime

:32:16. > :32:23.ministers. Another point of order? Earlier in Cabinet it seemed to be

:32:24. > :32:26.suggested by some honourabld members that there was a gerrymandering

:32:27. > :32:31.organisation here to act at the behest of the Government. It is my

:32:32. > :32:34.understanding, and I would welcome your confirmation or indeed

:32:35. > :32:36.correction if I am not corrdct, that the commission is entirely

:32:37. > :32:41.independent, that it will come up with its own proposals and that they

:32:42. > :32:44.will be available for us as honourable members and indedd our

:32:45. > :32:48.constituents to reply to thd formal process. Did you just confirmed that

:32:49. > :32:50.the commission does not act or come up with proposals at the behest of

:32:51. > :33:01.the Government? I am happy to confirm that the

:33:02. > :33:05.boundary commission operates and has been expected to operate on the

:33:06. > :33:09.bases the honourable gentlelan suggests. I am happy to confirm

:33:10. > :33:17.that. If there are no furthdr points of order we can now to the

:33:18. > :33:27.presentation of Bill, Sajid Javid. Neighbourhood planning Bill. Second

:33:28. > :33:31.reading today. Tomorrow. We come to the ten minute rule motion. Melanie

:33:32. > :33:35.Onn. I beg to move leave big event to

:33:36. > :33:39.bring in a Bill to make provision about the safeguarding of workers'

:33:40. > :33:42.rights derived from the European Union legislation after the

:33:43. > :33:55.withdrawal of the UK from the EU and for connected that connected

:33:56. > :34:00.purposes. This is a Bill brought about by

:34:01. > :34:04.necessity. Despite the warnhngs from the TUC and others about thd

:34:05. > :34:08.potential for workers' rights to be significantly undermined if we left

:34:09. > :34:13.Europe, the government has failed to explain just how they will dnsure

:34:14. > :34:15.this does not happen. I call on the government to take proactivd steps

:34:16. > :34:21.to protect those employment rights which are not contained in primary

:34:22. > :34:26.legislation and which are at risk of falling away post Brexit. It is no

:34:27. > :34:31.use adopting a wait and see attitude. People deserve to know

:34:32. > :34:34.their rights at work will not be detrimental. Research conducted by

:34:35. > :34:39.the House of Commons librarx has highlighted several areas of

:34:40. > :34:43.legislation that partly or wholly derived from European directives.

:34:44. > :34:49.These include price of agency workers, the European Works Council,

:34:50. > :34:53.information and consultation of employees, health and safetx,

:34:54. > :34:56.protection of young people `t work. These are the broad areas that could

:34:57. > :35:03.disappear if the government opts to repeal the European community's act

:35:04. > :35:07.1972. That means they would be no legislative framework around

:35:08. > :35:10.collective consultations on the structures, redundancies, shift

:35:11. > :35:17.pattern changes or pay just by way of an example. These are not small

:35:18. > :35:23.and obscure areas of employlent law. They are up front and centrd. In an

:35:24. > :35:27.increasingly stable labour larkets, people rely on the certaintx of

:35:28. > :35:32.protections that can be afforded to them under this legislation. For

:35:33. > :35:37.over 40 years the EU has devised laws designed to protect working

:35:38. > :35:41.people from discrimination. Trade unions have operated togethdr at a

:35:42. > :35:46.European level to secure agreements across all nations to better protect

:35:47. > :35:50.workers. These rules have ensured that regardless of the ideology of

:35:51. > :35:54.the government of the day h`rd fought for, minimum standards have

:35:55. > :36:00.been protected. They have kdpt those rights and known negotiable distance

:36:01. > :36:05.away from the potential derdgulatory whims of ministers who may take such

:36:06. > :36:11.a view that rights like that are no more than cumbersome red tape. We

:36:12. > :36:14.know the Secretary of State of international trade, the very

:36:15. > :36:20.minister responsible for negotiating our trade agreements as he dxited

:36:21. > :36:26.the European Union is on record as having said it is too difficult to

:36:27. > :36:29.fire staff. Members in this House must not allow downgrading of

:36:30. > :36:33.workers' rights to be unfortunate side-effects of the governmdnts s

:36:34. > :36:38.negotiations. On the steps of Downing Street in July, the Prime

:36:39. > :36:44.Minister made reference to those who have a job but do not always have

:36:45. > :36:52.job security. The millions of agency workers in the care sector, retail,

:36:53. > :36:56.security or factory work, the agency workers legislation ensures they can

:36:57. > :37:01.access the same wages and holiday entitlement as permanent workers and

:37:02. > :37:05.get equal access to facilithes, vacancies and amenities. Thhs is

:37:06. > :37:08.progressive legislation that recognises their changing ndeds of

:37:09. > :37:13.an increasingly so-called flexible workforce. We should have no

:37:14. > :37:18.hesitation in securing our own domestic laws to support those

:37:19. > :37:22.workers. In recent days we have been reassured that Brexit will not

:37:23. > :37:28.undermine workers' rights. The Minister for exiting the European

:37:29. > :37:32.Union wrote in his July arthcle for the Conservative home website it is

:37:33. > :37:37.his belief it is not employlent regulation that stunts economic

:37:38. > :37:40.growth. If that is the case there should be no barriers to thd

:37:41. > :37:44.government positively reviewing which elements of UK employlent law

:37:45. > :37:51.will be without foundations after leaving Europe unless alternatives

:37:52. > :37:58.are implemented. Given the TK has one of the most likely regulated

:37:59. > :38:04.workforces in the OECD it is right the government should uphold these

:38:05. > :38:10.minimum standards. Metcher TK employment law has become a basic

:38:11. > :38:13.expectation. -- much. The ldvel of protection afforded to workdrs is

:38:14. > :38:17.woven into the fabric of thd employment relationship no

:38:18. > :38:22.discrimination against part,time fixed term workers, the right to

:38:23. > :38:26.rest breaks, paid holiday and Leafa working parents. These are things

:38:27. > :38:34.which are standard. We should not be going backwards. If we take a closer

:38:35. > :38:42.look at TP, it is clear the intention is to benefit workers It

:38:43. > :38:46.means if somebody's employed contracts out there all, thdy can

:38:47. > :38:55.expect certain minimum guar`ntees in relation to these changes. They can

:38:56. > :38:59.expect a period of consultation They can expect any proposed changes

:39:00. > :39:03.to structures, salaries or redundancies will be discussed

:39:04. > :39:07.within a consultation. If they are transferred to the new empire, their

:39:08. > :39:16.salary, holiday and sick le`ve will be protected. Importantly, priced a

:39:17. > :39:22.representation of recognition of trade Unions also transfer providing

:39:23. > :39:25.assurance to affected emploxees After transfer, employees are

:39:26. > :39:29.protected unless the receivhng a player can provide evidence of

:39:30. > :39:33.operational technical or economic purposes that make it impossible for

:39:34. > :39:37.them to continue with certahn terms and conditions. Even then they must

:39:38. > :39:42.undertake consultation before they can make those changes. This is only

:39:43. > :39:45.possible because of the European legislation which provided the

:39:46. > :39:52.framework. We should accept a reality here, it is not perfect

:39:53. > :39:58.Which as we have seen with other legislation our Parliament can make

:39:59. > :40:03.the choice to go further, to offer more than the minimum requirements

:40:04. > :40:12.of legislation. In this instance it has not, choosing the least

:40:13. > :40:15.burdensome way. I recognise the weaknesses within the law as it

:40:16. > :40:22.stands. All the more reason to be concerned about what would happen if

:40:23. > :40:25.tupee was not there. Prior to tupee employers are able to make staff

:40:26. > :40:42.redundant. --. These were workers such as school

:40:43. > :40:46.meals Assistant and refuse collectors who were not givdn the

:40:47. > :40:50.chance to participate in anx consultation. We would not want to

:40:51. > :40:57.place that kind of disruption on workers again by rolling out -- back

:40:58. > :41:01.to the bad old days. Without there being any recourse to previous

:41:02. > :41:05.European Court of Justice rtlings we may find ourselves sleepwalking into

:41:06. > :41:12.a situation where carers who do sleeping she said no longer be

:41:13. > :41:17.geared to as employers seek to cut their costs. We should not `llow the

:41:18. > :41:23.potential for European case law to simply be discarded as it rhsks

:41:24. > :41:37.dumping swathes of presidents in favour of the ...

:41:38. > :41:44.The future decisions were no longer bound by that caselaw workers would

:41:45. > :41:48.pay the price. Given the ch`nges in employment legislation of the last

:41:49. > :41:53.60 years including reduced consultation period for

:41:54. > :42:01.redundancies, the introducthon of fees for employment tribunal 's

:42:02. > :42:05.there is little to give the British public faith that the government

:42:06. > :42:10.warm words will translate into action. What a current proposals in

:42:11. > :42:16.Europe? What would bring further protections to UK workers. @ right

:42:17. > :42:19.to a written statement of tdrms and conditions, improved worklife

:42:20. > :42:24.balance and improved rights for posted workers. Workers in Britain,

:42:25. > :42:32.will they feel the benefits of changes? I have been asked why

:42:33. > :42:37.haven't asked for more in this bill. This isn't about grandiose

:42:38. > :42:42.positioning. It is based in the reality of the situation we face

:42:43. > :42:45.today. It is right first and foremost ability is provided. The

:42:46. > :42:50.government does everything hn its power to protect what we already

:42:51. > :42:55.have. Despite being on the other side of the debates, I accept the

:42:56. > :43:00.British public voted for Brdxit They didn't vote for more insecure

:43:01. > :43:03.contracts, less safe workpl`ces or anything less than they currently

:43:04. > :43:11.have a way of protection in their jobs.

:43:12. > :43:22.The question is for the honourable member to bring in the bill.

:43:23. > :43:38.The ayes has it. Who will bring in the bill?

:43:39. > :44:20.Workers right maintenance of the use standards Bill. Second readhng. What

:44:21. > :44:24.day? Friday the 18th of Novdmber. Friday the 18th of November.

:44:25. > :44:34.We now come to the motion in the name of the Leader of the Opposition

:44:35. > :44:39.on the Paris Agreement on climate change. I call Mr Barry Gardner to

:44:40. > :44:47.move the motion. Thank you. I am delighted to rise to

:44:48. > :44:54.move this motion in the namd of myself and my honourable and right

:44:55. > :44:57.honourable colleagues. My country has an unwavering commitment to

:44:58. > :45:10.pursue the path of sustainable development. Those were the words of

:45:11. > :45:16.President Xi last week when he and President Obama announced China and

:45:17. > :45:22.America their ratification of the Paris climate treaty. In an

:45:23. > :45:26.extraordinary events we saw the world's two superpowers who are the

:45:27. > :45:31.work's to largest emitters of greenhouse gases locked in `n

:45:32. > :45:38.embrace to save our species from itself. From so altering our

:45:39. > :45:43.atmosphere that to make it `lmost impossible for many of our fellow

:45:44. > :45:48.human beings to survive. And from destroying of the species and

:45:49. > :45:52.ecosystems in the process. @ few days before they did so I wrote our

:45:53. > :45:57.Prime Minister urging her to begin the process of ratification of the

:45:58. > :46:03.treaty by UK. I understand her office passed my letter to the

:46:04. > :46:06.Secretary of State. I also tabled today's debate to discuss

:46:07. > :46:10.ratification and to press for the UK to follow China and America's need

:46:11. > :46:17.and get on and ratify the P`ris Agreement. So now, with the US and

:46:18. > :46:20.China making it highly likely the agreements will formally cole into

:46:21. > :46:27.force by the end of this ye`r, I decided that if China and Alerica

:46:28. > :46:32.can put aside their differences and ratify, then surely we in P`rliament

:46:33. > :46:38.could do the same and becomd finder parties to the agreement. I wrote to

:46:39. > :46:44.the Secretary of State and offered to amend the motion of this debate

:46:45. > :46:50.to make it the formal vote required by the House of Commons to ratify

:46:51. > :46:53.the treaty. The process of ratification is not unduly complex,

:46:54. > :46:57.it requires the tabling of ` command paper by the government and then

:46:58. > :47:02.affirmative resolution by both houses. The government have not

:47:03. > :47:06.tabled that command paper. Ly offer has still not received any formal

:47:07. > :47:16.response. The Scottish National Party agreed at the Green P`rty

:47:17. > :47:21.agreed, Plaid Cymru agreed. When I eventually can find a Liber`l

:47:22. > :47:28.Democrat to speak to, he agreed to! Here we had Her Majesty's official

:47:29. > :47:33.opposition, the Labour Partx, offering to forego one of its

:47:34. > :47:37.precious opposition databasd in order to do something on a

:47:38. > :47:40.cross-party basis and for the wider good, to create Parliamentary time

:47:41. > :47:46.for something the government had said they wanted to do but could not

:47:47. > :47:55.yet find the time for and it has been rejected. You know, soletimes I

:47:56. > :48:00.think people look at it in parliament and say to themsdlves,

:48:01. > :48:07.can they not just for once, put aside their petty party differences

:48:08. > :48:11.and agree to do something together? Are they really not bigger than

:48:12. > :48:17.this? The government had sahd earlier this year that they would in

:48:18. > :48:24.March, David Cameron agreed the EU Council conclusions which underlines

:48:25. > :48:28.the need for the European Union and its member states to be abld to

:48:29. > :48:33.ratify the Paris Agreement `s soon as possible and on time so `s to be

:48:34. > :48:46.party as of this entry. I am grateful to the shadow

:48:47. > :48:50.Secretary of State For giving way. I am a supporter of the Paris climate

:48:51. > :48:58.change agreement and hope wd will ratify as soon as possible but I

:48:59. > :49:10.cannot help thinking he is looking for a disagreement. All members must

:49:11. > :49:13.ratify in this team so -- in their time,. While I trust him and know

:49:14. > :49:18.the deeply cares about this issue, I think he knows that I do too and

:49:19. > :49:23.therefore the olive branch H extended to the Secretary of State

:49:24. > :49:26.was a genuine one and was one based on something I am told the

:49:27. > :49:29.Government said it wanted to do and that they have previously stated

:49:30. > :49:33.they wanted to do, but I have been told they have not been abld to find

:49:34. > :49:37.time for it yet and so I thought this was an opportunity to lake

:49:38. > :49:41.time. And so it is a matter of deep regret. I cannot see any re`son and

:49:42. > :49:45.I am sure the Minister will come to the dispatch box and explain to us

:49:46. > :49:54.in due course precisely why it was not possible to take this

:49:55. > :49:58.opportunity, this opportunity, to table the command paper yesterday or

:49:59. > :50:07.the day before and to use this time in Parliament for us in the House of

:50:08. > :50:10.Commons to vote and ratify this treaty. I am very grateful to my

:50:11. > :50:15.honourable friend and I am pleased he secured the time for this debate.

:50:16. > :50:18.Isn't the issue that the Unhted States of America, China and France

:50:19. > :50:23.have already completed ratification, that other T20 countries like Brazil

:50:24. > :50:29.and Germany have pledged to do so by the end of the year, and all we re

:50:30. > :50:33.asking this Government to do is to set out precisely what the timescale

:50:34. > :50:38.is going to be -- G20. For the United Kingdom to this important

:50:39. > :50:43.work, and we are not getting any answers from the Government as to

:50:44. > :50:47.that timescale? My honourable friend of course is absolutely right, but I

:50:48. > :50:54.hope, and I really do hope, that what we will get this afternoon and

:50:55. > :50:57.the honourable front bench team and Right Honourable members of the

:50:58. > :51:01.front bench team, they know I have respect for them on this matter I

:51:02. > :51:05.do not seek to be partisan on this matter but I will attack thdm if

:51:06. > :51:13.they do not keep to their commitments, and I will continue to

:51:14. > :51:16.do that. I will again... I have great respect for this becatse this

:51:17. > :51:21.is very much a cross-party debate about climate change, but the heart

:51:22. > :51:25.of the commitment on climatd change is the Climate Change Act and that

:51:26. > :51:29.is in British law and we voted for it in this Parliament and wd have

:51:30. > :51:33.commitments in that act to `chieve 80% reduction in our emissions by

:51:34. > :51:36.2018 so we are committed to that and I too would pick up my honotrable

:51:37. > :51:44.friend's comment that you are creating an argument where there is

:51:45. > :51:47.none because this Government is not saying ratify this. Indeed H fully

:51:48. > :51:50.believe we will do but we mtst think about this very sensibly but I hope

:51:51. > :51:53.we will continue to lead thd way as we have done all the way along the

:51:54. > :51:57.line. I am delighted the honourable lady referred to the commitlent and

:51:58. > :52:06.I am delighted she referred to the Climate Change Act and to the fact

:52:07. > :52:10.it is binding upon us, and later on in the speech I will be takhng

:52:11. > :52:12.exactly what those commitments and that legislation has said and trying

:52:13. > :52:17.to show precisely where the Government over the past cotple of

:52:18. > :52:21.years has deviated from that, and that is why we are on a pathway of

:52:22. > :52:28.divergences rather than con virgins in this House and have been for the

:52:29. > :52:34.pasts years -- convergence. The cross-party and bipartisan `pproach

:52:35. > :52:39.that did used to exist in this House on these matters has been sdverely

:52:40. > :52:45.tested by what has been seen as backsliding by this Governmdnt. I

:52:46. > :52:49.will add on that later. Unthl this morning, Madame Deputy Speaker, it

:52:50. > :52:53.was not clear to me why the olive branch I had extended to thd

:52:54. > :53:06.Government had been quite so hotly ignored, then I found out what the

:53:07. > :53:09.minute -- minister said, and what was said at the cocktail party for

:53:10. > :53:14.the ladies and gentlemen of the press yesterday evening, thdy said

:53:15. > :53:16.that candidly we will not bd publishing the carbon plan by the

:53:17. > :53:22.end of the year. The carbon plan? What is that? It is not the sort of

:53:23. > :53:26.thing any normal member of the public might think sounds tdrribly

:53:27. > :53:29.important and if I were to dxplain that it is important, reallx

:53:30. > :53:34.important, because it is supposed to set out precisely how the Government

:53:35. > :53:37.will meet its carbon budget, that same hypothetical member of the

:53:38. > :53:41.public may look blank because people do not speak in these terms, they do

:53:42. > :53:46.not speak in terms of carbon plans and carbon budgets, they spdak in

:53:47. > :53:49.terms of the effects, not btdgets, they know climate change is causing

:53:50. > :53:54.disruption across the world with more flooding in some places, and

:53:55. > :53:58.more drought in others, stronger hurricanes and typhoons and loss of

:53:59. > :54:02.crops and arable land, they know it is related to emissions polluting

:54:03. > :54:06.our air and children's lungs and these are the things import`nt to

:54:07. > :54:13.them, and that is... Yes, in a moment. That is precisely why the

:54:14. > :54:18.politicians did agree backing 2 08, under a Labour Government, but very

:54:19. > :54:23.much on a cross-party basis, to limit the ways we were caushng those

:54:24. > :54:26.problems. To reduce and limht the emissions that were changing the

:54:27. > :54:32.world with such devastating effect, that is why we created the committee

:54:33. > :54:36.on climate change, to set ldgally binding carbon budgets that would

:54:37. > :54:42.precisely limit the damage we did, but of course we tasked thel to make

:54:43. > :54:46.sure we always adopted them as cost efficient pathways so we cotld move

:54:47. > :54:51.towards the long-term target of at least 80% reduction in emissions by

:54:52. > :54:56.2050, that the honourable l`dy mentioned, at the lowest possible

:54:57. > :55:04.cost to the public and to industry and to business. That is whx this

:55:05. > :55:07.carbon plan is so important. How dare the Secretary of State let s

:55:08. > :55:11.look at a cocktail party to a few journalists that of course we will

:55:12. > :55:15.not be publishing the carbon plan by the end of this year. Kodaira the

:55:16. > :55:27.minister revealed to the group that we may find space in the tiletable

:55:28. > :55:35.to publish it in 2017 -- how dare the Minister May? May? I ask the

:55:36. > :55:39.Minister to Regal -- to read the legislation. It says the Government

:55:40. > :55:44.must put it into effect. Thd fourth carbon budget was published in 011.

:55:45. > :55:49.Five and a half years later we still have no carbon plan. My grasp of the

:55:50. > :55:53.English language is not so weak as to think that five and a half years

:55:54. > :55:57.with a change of Government and the new Prime Minister in betwedn

:55:58. > :56:02.constitutes as soon as reasonably practicable, and now the minister

:56:03. > :56:08.says he "May" get round to ht in 2017? Earlier this year thex

:56:09. > :56:12.promised that the reason for delay was simply that they wanted now to

:56:13. > :56:17.include in their measures for achieving the fifth carbon budget in

:56:18. > :56:21.the plan. Which they set, of course, almost three weeks later th`n the

:56:22. > :56:26.legislation allowed, another area in which this Government has lost

:56:27. > :56:31.confidence in people. Again, the legislation is very clear. Ht is

:56:32. > :56:35.primary legislation, it says the carbon budget must be deposhted 12

:56:36. > :56:41.years, on the 30th of June, 12 years before it comes into effect, and

:56:42. > :56:45.they published it before but said that in legislation and that is what

:56:46. > :56:49.is required by the law, to be set in legislation until the 19th of July,

:56:50. > :56:53.almost three weeks late. Sorry, I did say I would give way to the

:56:54. > :57:00.honourable gentleman... I thank the honourable gentleman for giving way,

:57:01. > :57:03.and I am glad he is making the point about publishing the carbon plan

:57:04. > :57:06.which I think would be a good and useful next step. He was spdaking

:57:07. > :57:10.about the pertinence of clilate change to ordinary people in the

:57:11. > :57:16.streets and it brings it down to reality when you see, for example,

:57:17. > :57:21.in Wales, the flooding dangdr, the current cost of remedying that

:57:22. > :57:30.danger would be about ?200 lillion, and that is certain to grow. That is

:57:31. > :57:35.one need for urgency. The honourable gentleman is absolutely right. These

:57:36. > :57:40.things... When we speak abott them in terms of carbon plans and carbon

:57:41. > :57:45.budgets, they can often seel as if we are speaking in a separate world

:57:46. > :57:49.to what people listen to and understand. They do underst`nd when

:57:50. > :57:52.their homes are being flooddd, they know that these are the effdcts of

:57:53. > :57:56.climate change. What they nded to know is that we are following what

:57:57. > :58:03.was the best legislative model set out in the world in 2008, whth that

:58:04. > :58:07.cross-party agreement, under the leadership of my right honotrable

:58:08. > :58:11.friend. That is what we achheved here and it has become a model

:58:12. > :58:15.across the world, but we have to follow it. And the tragedy hs that

:58:16. > :58:20.this Government has been backsliding from it. The reason ministers could

:58:21. > :58:24.not accept the cross-party olive branch I extended to them w`s

:58:25. > :58:29.because they knew that the night before they were about to admit to

:58:30. > :58:32.the world that they still h`d not got a single clue about how they

:58:33. > :58:38.were going to meet the promhses and targets that they had already made

:58:39. > :58:42.to keep the UK safe from clhmate change, that they were not dven

:58:43. > :58:46.going to commit to a new de`dline when they might put such a plan

:58:47. > :58:52.together and that to come to this chamber today, all smiles and in a

:58:53. > :58:56.cross-party endeavour to ratify the Paris agreement, would have exposed

:58:57. > :59:02.them to the accusation of bding arrogant hypocrites. They h`ve

:59:03. > :59:07.avoided that charge, Madame Deputy Speaker, they have avoided that

:59:08. > :59:12.charge. But they have opened themselves up to an infinitd number

:59:13. > :59:19.are. Incompetence, dithering, and the business, they are a party

:59:20. > :59:22.divided between those who sht on the backbenches very often seeing all

:59:23. > :59:28.these budgets and plans are just costly green clap, and that we

:59:29. > :59:33.should get on with the future industrial strategy based on fossil

:59:34. > :59:42.fuels, and a few sane heads, some of whom are in this's today -- costly

:59:43. > :59:44.green crap. Order, there is some unrest about the honourable

:59:45. > :59:48.gentleman's language. But in using the word I would not invite him to

:59:49. > :59:55.use or use myself, he was in fact quoting, was he, perhaps? Mx excuse,

:59:56. > :00:00.Madame Deputy Speaker Speakdr, is that I believe I was quoting the

:00:01. > :00:03.former Prime Minister, who tsed such language about his previous

:00:04. > :00:11.embrace... We will leave thd point as to whether it is a quote or a

:00:12. > :00:16.misquote, but I am sure the honourable gentleman will tdmper his

:00:17. > :00:19.language. Point of order, Mr Davies. Madame Deputy Speaker I am not in

:00:20. > :00:24.the least offended by the Honourable honourable gentleman's langtage but

:00:25. > :00:29.if he is allowed to describd green policies in that fashion, whll I be

:00:30. > :00:33.allowed to do the same? No! I am grateful to the honourable gentleman

:00:34. > :00:37.for making his point of orddr, because that was the reason for my

:00:38. > :00:40.intervention. To make sure that the rest of the debate will use

:00:41. > :00:53.temperate language and that which we would all be happy to quote in

:00:54. > :00:56.future. Madame Deputy Speakdr, thank you. I think it is interesthng

:00:57. > :01:01.because the Honourable gentleman who just made the point of order is one

:01:02. > :01:05.of those who does believe that the Government, in meeting its climate

:01:06. > :01:15.change commitments, is wrong-headed. He does believe that climatd change

:01:16. > :01:18.is, or at least man-made, htman made climate change, is somewhat

:01:19. > :01:26.overblown as hypothesis, and he is in effect a climate denier, and

:01:27. > :01:32.there are members of his party. . I will give way, of course. Up until

:01:33. > :01:36.that point he was quite right and I nodded. I have never ever ddnied the

:01:37. > :01:40.climate changes. In fact on every single occasion I have spokdn on it,

:01:41. > :01:44.and I made the point straightaway. Of course there are climate changes,

:01:45. > :01:47.but it has been changing a lot longer than the 250 years and it is

:01:48. > :01:50.the people opposite like thd honourable gentleman who sedm to

:01:51. > :01:54.deny that the climate actually changed prior to the industrial

:01:55. > :01:59.revolution that are the real deniers. I was of course referring

:02:00. > :02:05.to anthropogenic climate ch`nge that he is a denier of, and he knows

:02:06. > :02:12.that. But there are sane he`ds who understand that when the world's

:02:13. > :02:16.largest superpowers ratify ` climate on -- treaty on climate change that

:02:17. > :02:21.commits us to those targets this century, then it is time to do what

:02:22. > :02:27.President Obama said last wdek, and put your money where your mouth is.

:02:28. > :02:31.Last year the global investlent was $286 billion in the carbon dconomy.

:02:32. > :02:36.The problem is this... Investment in developing countries outpacd that in

:02:37. > :02:42.richer nations. We are lockdd in a low-carbon race and we are losing.

:02:43. > :02:47.The reason I want us to get on and ratify is not because Paris is some

:02:48. > :02:52.sort of totemic environment`l sin, but it is because political

:02:53. > :02:54.leadership sends a strong shgnal to attract investment. Those countries

:02:55. > :03:00.who have a clear policy fralework are the ones who attract investment.

:03:01. > :03:04.Those countries with a stable policy framework are the ones who `ttract

:03:05. > :03:13.investment. In the UK, over the past few years, we have had neither. This

:03:14. > :03:18.month, they plan to hike thd tax on businesses with rooftop sol`r

:03:19. > :03:24.installations by a six to ehght times increase in business rates. In

:03:25. > :03:32.time the 15 pick-up or inst`llations over five megawatts and redtced

:03:33. > :03:34.solar subsidy for the rest by 6 % -- six to eight times increase in

:03:35. > :03:48.business Wind power, they decided to end all

:03:49. > :03:58.subsidy for onshore wind farms. They took away all subsidy for offshore

:03:59. > :04:02.wind farms. Biomass, I wrotd to the Secretary of State to ask hhm why

:04:03. > :04:08.regular tree changes to the tariff structures were rushed throtgh this

:04:09. > :04:11.are using secondary legislation to amend the renewable heat incentive

:04:12. > :04:16.without proper consultation and no impact assessments being made

:04:17. > :04:23.assessing the risks to business Business and trade associathons to

:04:24. > :04:28.estimate that ?140 million of their investment is now at risk. On carbon

:04:29. > :04:37.capture and storage technology they broke their manifesto promised

:04:38. > :04:41.cancelling all finance. Sinking the White Rose and the Peterhead

:04:42. > :04:49.projects. On energy efficiency, they ditched zero carbon homes policy.

:04:50. > :04:55.They scrapped the green Deal policy. In times possibly do and vehicle

:04:56. > :05:01.excise duty incentive follow emissions vehicles. In four years we

:05:02. > :05:05.have sunk from fourth to 13th in the index of the best places for

:05:06. > :05:10.investment in low carbon industries. Just to make the investments picture

:05:11. > :05:14.complete, they took the quite monstrous decision to sell off the

:05:15. > :05:19.green investment bank, a bank that was precisely set up becausd there

:05:20. > :05:24.was a market failure that the private sector simply could not

:05:25. > :05:28.address by abolishing the green investment bank we are now prepared

:05:29. > :05:33.to start low carbon industrhes in the UK of the very investment they

:05:34. > :05:39.need at that critical phase of development. Not all part of the

:05:40. > :05:43.energy nexus at being hurt by this government. In 2013, they announced

:05:44. > :05:49.fracking companies would pax have the tags conventional oil and gas

:05:50. > :05:57.producers pay. They then called it the most generous tax regimd for

:05:58. > :06:02.shale in the world. DCS, offshore wind come onshore wind, biolass

:06:03. > :06:09.green deal, is there any part of the energy sector haven't mentioned Oh,

:06:10. > :06:23.yes. Nuclear. Nuclear. Hinckley Oh dear. Deserve. Delay. Incompetence.

:06:24. > :06:29.An overpriced contract that will cost the bill payer, not thd

:06:30. > :06:34.government, the bill payer not at the ?6.1 billion originally

:06:35. > :06:40.calculated by the government that the ?30 billion as now determined by

:06:41. > :06:43.the National Audit Office. We'll the honourable gentleman kindly give

:06:44. > :06:51.way? In a minute. This is a projdct Madam

:06:52. > :06:58.Deputy Speaker which is alrdady 80 is delayed. The Prime Minister has

:06:59. > :07:01.thrown into chaos. Two and half years ago the government should have

:07:02. > :07:09.reviewed this project on grounds of cost, to do so after the EDF board

:07:10. > :07:18.had taken a final knife edgd a final investment decision. This shows a

:07:19. > :07:21.level of contempt for investors in our energy infrastructure, ` lack of

:07:22. > :07:28.understanding about how company boards actually take decisions that

:07:29. > :07:34.is sending out the most dam`ging message and turning them aw`y from

:07:35. > :07:38.the UK as a market of preference for low carbon investment.

:07:39. > :07:42.I give way. I thank the gentleman forgiving way. He is making a

:07:43. > :07:47.powerful point. I'd like to suggest it is all about one user st`tistics.

:07:48. > :07:52.This country is 16% of our dnergy comes from renewables and this year

:07:53. > :08:00.25% of our electricity is from sources. He laughs but in 2014 0%

:08:01. > :08:05.of all Europe's renewable energy investment took place here. With the

:08:06. > :08:10.honourable gentleman not agree that is an excellent track record and on

:08:11. > :08:17.the best ways we can indicate we're combating change is by phashng out

:08:18. > :08:24.fossil fuel power stations? That is what the government is doing.

:08:25. > :08:35.The honourable lady is absolutely right that we have had a very

:08:36. > :08:42.enviable track record in thd amount and way our renewables have grown.

:08:43. > :08:46.But they were created by thd policies that previously allowed

:08:47. > :08:51.that subsidy in the renewable industry. The points I have just

:08:52. > :08:56.been making show quite clearly how the government in the past 08 months

:08:57. > :09:01.and two years has actually withdrawn those subsidies and as I sahd then,

:09:02. > :09:13.the effect on the solar indtstry, for example, was a 93% cut hn the

:09:14. > :09:22.projects that are going ahe`d. Can you give way? The honourabld lady

:09:23. > :09:25.may have mention energy in terms of investment, what she failed to

:09:26. > :09:32.mention is energy companies in this country very often by in thdir

:09:33. > :09:36.energy from Europe. That dodsn't say very much for the government 's s

:09:37. > :09:40.energy policy. My honourable friend makes `n

:09:41. > :09:44.important point and one that I haven't referred to in my speech and

:09:45. > :09:48.I'm glad he has drawn the House s attention to it. Interconnection

:09:49. > :09:52.with Europe is vital for endrgy security and I think it would be a

:09:53. > :09:56.very positive move with the minister, when he responds, were to

:09:57. > :10:14.talk about the future of endrgy infrastructure in the -- and the

:10:15. > :10:17.future. It can stand separately but I would very much liked havd

:10:18. > :10:21.confirmation from the Minister that is the intention of the govdrnment,

:10:22. > :10:26.to make sure that is safegu`rded because it is an important way of

:10:27. > :10:37.managing our supply. Instead of using our time today, Madam Deputy

:10:38. > :10:40.Speaker, to take a step forward we have had to hold the governlent to

:10:41. > :10:45.account for just how far thd UK leadership on climate changd has

:10:46. > :10:49.fallen on this government's watch. Leapfrogs by the world's biggest

:10:50. > :10:53.polluters. We have gone frol the world leading climate changd act to

:10:54. > :11:00.where we now sit with a 47% gap in meeting our target that we simply do

:11:01. > :11:04.not know how to fill and have not yet even given a date for the

:11:05. > :11:11.publication of the plan as to when we will fill it. Actually, H will

:11:12. > :11:15.rephrase that. We do know how to fill it, it is by properly

:11:16. > :11:20.insulating millions of homes in the UK, to increase energy efficiency

:11:21. > :11:24.and where that is not viabld by ensuring they have access to low

:11:25. > :11:28.carbon renewable community sources of energy so we're not burnhng

:11:29. > :11:32.fossil fuels to see the heat escape through draughty walls and windows.

:11:33. > :11:41.It is by chance falling our transport system. -- it is by

:11:42. > :11:47.transforming. Later on todax the leader of the Labour Party will be

:11:48. > :11:52.setting out his ambitious vhsion for our environment and energy policy

:11:53. > :11:55.creating 300,000 jobs in low carbon industries and using a new

:11:56. > :11:57.investment banks to invest hn public and community owned renewable

:11:58. > :12:04.projects. The Paris Agreement demands we move to a net zero carbon

:12:05. > :12:10.future in the second half of this century. That requires cour`ge and

:12:11. > :12:13.it requires imagination. It requires a coherence, low carbon invdstment

:12:14. > :12:20.plan. Today should have been a day when all parties came together to

:12:21. > :12:26.piece together that the futtre in optimism and hope. By turning its

:12:27. > :12:29.back on that opportunity thd government must explain when it ll

:12:30. > :12:34.ratify the Paris Agreement `nd when it will publish the carbon plan to

:12:35. > :12:43.show the British public how it will deliver on that promise.

:12:44. > :12:50.Thank you, very much. The qtestion is as on the order paper. Mhnister,

:12:51. > :12:57.Strinic heard. -- Nick Hurd.

:12:58. > :13:03.Opposition days as you well know are traditionally set up for division. I

:13:04. > :13:10.have to be honest when I saw the motion before us I thought today was

:13:11. > :13:20.going to be different. But 28 minutes later I am disappointed I

:13:21. > :13:24.am disappointed by the tone the honourable gentleman stats for this.

:13:25. > :13:29.I am disappointed because as he knows, and I hope he knows, I have a

:13:30. > :13:33.deep respect for him person`lly and it is known he has a man who has a

:13:34. > :13:39.deep and serious knowledge of this issue and this agenda and a serious

:13:40. > :13:50.commitment to it today but that speech was disappointing. Wd have,

:13:51. > :13:54.as I said, opposition days `re set up for divisions. Sometimes those

:13:55. > :14:00.divisions are real. Sometimds they are exaggerated, rarely havd I been

:14:01. > :14:04.asked to open a debate wherd the division has been so entirely

:14:05. > :14:12.manufactured, stretched and distorted. In a way that is really

:14:13. > :14:20.unhelpful. The heart of my disappointment is that. Tod`y, we

:14:21. > :14:26.have an opportunity to have a substantive and timely debate on an

:14:27. > :14:32.issue of enormous importancd. We can take stock at a pivotal timd of

:14:33. > :14:39.where we are in what is now, at last, a global effort to manage the

:14:40. > :14:47.risk of dangerous, expensivd and possibly extreme climate

:14:48. > :14:49.instability. Arguably the most complex and important long-term

:14:50. > :14:57.issue that our generation of politicians has to grapple with An

:14:58. > :15:00.issue on which there has bedn impressive and very important

:15:01. > :15:05.cross-party support over successive governments. Not least when the

:15:06. > :15:08.ground-breaking and enormously influential climate change `ct on

:15:09. > :15:16.whose Bill committee I remahn proud to have sat was passed by a majority

:15:17. > :15:19.of 463. Without that cross-party support British governments would

:15:20. > :15:23.not have been able to show the leadership we have done and a

:15:24. > :15:30.different political colours which has enabled us to have a global

:15:31. > :15:34.influence which is at the hdart of the honourable gentleman 's motion

:15:35. > :15:41.today. A motion which encourages the government to get on and do what we

:15:42. > :15:45.have already said we will do, confirmed again by the Primd

:15:46. > :15:54.Minister today. It is to ratify the Paris treaty as soon as possible. I

:15:55. > :16:00.urge the honourable gentlem`n to resist what I think I heard which

:16:01. > :16:05.was an urge to play party g`mes particularly against the backdrop of

:16:06. > :16:08.a Labour leadership election. It is extremely unhelpful and out of

:16:09. > :16:12.character for him. Out of rdspect for him I wanted addresses lotion

:16:13. > :16:16.and in doing so seeks to re`ssure the House and many outside who quite

:16:17. > :16:26.rightly says are deeply concerned about this issue, that this new

:16:27. > :16:30.department led by a highly respected former Shadow Secretary of State for

:16:31. > :16:33.Energy and Climate Change Committee alongside me on the front bdnch this

:16:34. > :16:41.afternoon, and the new government remains committed to Britain playing

:16:42. > :16:47.a full part in the global effort to improve our climate securitx. There

:16:48. > :16:51.is no issue of backsliding. We are committed to this. Why? Not only

:16:52. > :16:56.because we see climate change is one of the biggest long-term risks to

:16:57. > :17:01.our future security and prosperity, the risk that has to be man`ged but

:17:02. > :17:08.also because we believe long-term cost effective climate action is an

:17:09. > :17:11.opportunity to promote growth, to promote good jobs as well as

:17:12. > :17:19.improvements to our health, not least through the rights to enjoy

:17:20. > :17:23.clean air in our cities. We are committed to ratifying I will

:17:24. > :17:32.eliminate, we are committed to ratifying the pivotal Paris

:17:33. > :17:35.Agreement. We see it as a start We are committed to the climatd change

:17:36. > :17:41.act, there is no more important is proof of that in the short term than

:17:42. > :17:49.the very early, unflinching decision to put into law a fifth carbon

:17:50. > :17:56.budget. I pay tribute to my friend the honourable member for Hdreford

:17:57. > :18:02.who just hours after he was leeward from the charms of Chairing the

:18:03. > :18:06.select committee to enter government, was on his feet opposite

:18:07. > :18:10.the honourable gentleman dohng exactly that. Putting into law the

:18:11. > :18:15.fifth carbon budget which anyone who knows anything about this stbject

:18:16. > :18:19.knows is an extremely important and challenging commitment on the half

:18:20. > :18:24.of the British people. That is no more important is proof point that

:18:25. > :18:25.has such an early stage in the new apartments life that commitlent was

:18:26. > :18:37.made. -- new department. Thank you. The honourable gdntleman

:18:38. > :18:41.mention the important of -- importance of green jobs. Otr

:18:42. > :18:46.present Ashfield, a former call community, where the jobs h`ve been

:18:47. > :18:49.replaced with ones that are not as secure or well-paid, what is the

:18:50. > :18:55.Government doing to get jobs to areas like mine -- coal comlunity.

:18:56. > :18:58.She addresses is very subst`ntive issue. This is very important, and

:18:59. > :19:01.it lies at the heart of this Government's commitment to forge and

:19:02. > :19:04.put on the tin of this new department the need for an

:19:05. > :19:08.industrial strategy, that in the words of the Prime Minister, works

:19:09. > :19:12.for everyone in creating a broader sense of opportunity across the

:19:13. > :19:18.country, and takes a very h`rd look at industries and the sector and

:19:19. > :19:22.places and think about future competitiveness and resilient and

:19:23. > :19:26.asks the question is, we will the opportunities come from? How do we

:19:27. > :19:34.broaden opportunity for people? Fundamental deep questions which

:19:35. > :19:37.might friend at the Secretary of State is involved with. I whll go on

:19:38. > :19:40.to explain this but this debate today on the debate about otr low

:19:41. > :19:43.carbon economy is fundament`l so I thank her for that intervention I

:19:44. > :19:49.was trying to make the point, Madame Deputy Speaker, about the ilportance

:19:50. > :19:56.of the fifth carbon budget which commits us to reducing our dmissions

:19:57. > :20:01.by 57% by 2030, compared to 199 , now that is a very major colmitment.

:20:02. > :20:06.I will return to the issue of our commitment to take effect of climate

:20:07. > :20:10.action in the UK but I would like out of respect to the honourable

:20:11. > :20:14.gentleman to address the issue of Paris ratification. Before loving on

:20:15. > :20:20.to address the issue of how we intend to maintain our international

:20:21. > :20:26.influence. In relation to ratification of Paris, we shgned the

:20:27. > :20:31.agreement in April and said we would ratify it as soon as possible and we

:20:32. > :20:34.will. For the information of the House, although the honourable

:20:35. > :20:37.gentleman knows this, there are two steps of ratification. Country's

:20:38. > :20:43.first complete their domesthc processors to do that then have a

:20:44. > :20:53.ratification with the UN. Wd signed the agreement is part of thd

:20:54. > :20:59.European Union. We know we negotiated together and, ond point

:21:00. > :21:03.ignored in his speech, the convention is we will ratifx

:21:04. > :21:07.together. I.e., that is the understanding, and until we leave

:21:08. > :21:12.the EU the UK will remain a full member with all the obligathons this

:21:13. > :21:15.entails. Now, if I could finish this section, I am more than happy to

:21:16. > :21:19.take an intervention. I think colleagues will understand the

:21:20. > :21:24.complexity of a process whereby so many different countries ard going

:21:25. > :21:28.through their domestic procdssors of approval, most of which differ. We

:21:29. > :21:33.are lucky in that ours is rdlatively straightforward. That means, and

:21:34. > :21:36.this understanding of the convention that we will ratify simultaneously,

:21:37. > :21:39.this means it has always bedn understood and this has been

:21:40. > :21:42.confirmed to me by the most senior people involved in the negotiation

:21:43. > :21:48.process, that the EU was never expected to be at the vangu`rd of

:21:49. > :21:53.ratification, and indeed th`t in part explains why others have chosen

:21:54. > :21:58.to go first, and of course we welcome that, because earlidr

:21:59. > :22:03.ratification of this huge agreement is something we welcome. For the

:22:04. > :22:06.same reason, and I will just finish this then of course will take

:22:07. > :22:13.interventions, for the same reason it is very difficult for us to set

:22:14. > :22:21.the timeline for ratification that he seeks. To do that in the motion,

:22:22. > :22:26.because it depends so much on the timing of these other processes But

:22:27. > :22:29.I would like to reassure thd honourable gentleman and thd House

:22:30. > :22:34.that we will start our own process as soon as possible, and although I

:22:35. > :22:39.cannot confirm the exact tiletable today, because processes ard not

:22:40. > :22:44.complete, we will decide and we will communicate that at the appropriate

:22:45. > :22:48.point, and whether it is next week, as he seeks, or soon after, is not

:22:49. > :22:53.frankly the main issue. Tod`y the main issue is that we get on with

:22:54. > :22:57.ratification, fulfil our colmitment to do that as soon as possible, and

:22:58. > :23:02.with that I am very happy to take the intervention and thank him for

:23:03. > :23:06.his patients. I thank the honourable gentleman for giving way. Would he

:23:07. > :23:10.accept that he has just said it was never the intention that thd

:23:11. > :23:14.European Union would be abld to ratify this without the founding

:23:15. > :23:19.members, but in March this xear the EU Council conclusion stated and

:23:20. > :23:22.underlined the need for the European Union and its member states to be

:23:23. > :23:29.able to ratify the Paris agreement as soon as possible, and on time, so

:23:30. > :23:34.as to be parties as of its dntry into force. So in fact that was

:23:35. > :23:38.precisely the conclusion of the March council, that we would be

:23:39. > :23:43.founder members and we would enter, but because it is now clear that

:23:44. > :23:46.that final ratification with the secretary-general is going to be in

:23:47. > :23:51.December of this year, before the end of this year, it is vit`l that

:23:52. > :23:56.EU member states now take e`rly action and we should be takdn even

:23:57. > :24:02.earlier action to push other member states to do that to fulfil what the

:24:03. > :24:05.European Council stated itsdlf? Just to be absolutely clear, this

:24:06. > :24:09.Government absolutely welcoles the shift in dynamic in terms of the

:24:10. > :24:13.ratification process. This hs fantastically good news, and as he

:24:14. > :24:17.pointed out and started his speech with and was entirely right about,

:24:18. > :24:20.the most important change and the most important change since I was

:24:21. > :24:23.immersed in this in my first parliament, is the shift in the

:24:24. > :24:26.attitudes of the United States and the Chinese, the two biggest

:24:27. > :24:31.economies. This is the game changer in terms of this process. Frankly,

:24:32. > :24:37.that is much more important than the exact timing of when really a plan

:24:38. > :24:40.out in this place. No one h`s any doubt about their commitment, about

:24:41. > :24:44.the commitment of the UK to this process. We have demonstratdd that

:24:45. > :24:47.under leadership of successhve Secretary of States, and I `m

:24:48. > :24:50.delighted to see the member for Doncaster in his place todax, over

:24:51. > :25:01.many governments and many Sdcretary of States. -- secretaries of state.

:25:02. > :25:05.I would like to say I am he`rtened by the positivity of the Minister on

:25:06. > :25:08.this. The very fact the United States have come forward first with

:25:09. > :25:12.the ratification is really largely because Britain was leading the way

:25:13. > :25:14.on this first of all, and they have taken the lead, and indeed lany of

:25:15. > :25:19.these countries, China in particular, is one of the bhggest

:25:20. > :25:22.offenders on climate change, so to see them taking part is gre`t, but I

:25:23. > :25:29.would like to urge the Minister to continue to lead the way and I am

:25:30. > :25:32.heartened by his assurances that we will ratify this and we will

:25:33. > :25:34.actually be playing our part. I thank my honourable friend for that

:25:35. > :25:38.constructive and positive intervention and I am delighted we

:25:39. > :25:41.are doing our bit to shift the tone of this debate which is in need and

:25:42. > :25:48.I will go on to address her point, which is how we intend to m`intain

:25:49. > :25:53.our leadership and maintain this international influence, because it

:25:54. > :25:57.is a fundamental question. Xes. . I thank the honourable gentlelan for

:25:58. > :26:00.giving way. The Minister of course is quite right to point to the two

:26:01. > :26:05.stage process of the ratification and the question of how in the UK we

:26:06. > :26:10.go about the process of rathfication in conjunction with the EU, but the

:26:11. > :26:19.fact of the matter is that that is undertaken in the UK by an order of

:26:20. > :26:22.an EU treaty, debated by both Houses, coming out the other end,

:26:23. > :26:27.and this has already been completed by France, and yet we are nowhere

:26:28. > :26:32.near even thinking about th`t, as far as I can see, as far as the UK

:26:33. > :26:35.is concerned. Is that the Mhnister's understanding? Is such a process

:26:36. > :26:40.imminent? Can he indicate stch a process is imminent in this House? I

:26:41. > :26:44.thank the honourable gentlelan for his intervention. He has a long and

:26:45. > :26:46.distinguished record and we were on committee together in what seems

:26:47. > :26:54.like the very long time ago. He is right in one point. Yes, Fr`nce have

:26:55. > :26:56.completed their domestic processors. He is entirely wrong on the second

:26:57. > :27:01.one which is that the Government has not begun to think about it. We have

:27:02. > :27:03.and are in position to make our announcement on this at the

:27:04. > :27:08.appropriate point and I am sorry it is not today. As the right

:27:09. > :27:13.honourable gentleman would wish but we have made it clear, as the Prime

:27:14. > :27:17.Minister, and again I think she said this explicitly today, that we do

:27:18. > :27:21.intend to ratify it as soon as possible. I would like to ttrn to

:27:22. > :27:25.this important question of international influence. And it is

:27:26. > :27:28.really important. Part of otr fundamental challenge as a country

:27:29. > :27:33.is not just about how we make our own commitments in the most fair and

:27:34. > :27:38.cost-effective way, and we will turn to that, but it is about how we

:27:39. > :27:46.maximise our influence to m`ke sure that others play their full part.

:27:47. > :27:50.And it is all linked, of cotrse because it makes it much easier for

:27:51. > :27:54.us to keep our people and otr businesses and private sector with

:27:55. > :27:59.us on this journey. If they feel other countries are playing their

:28:00. > :28:02.full part, and if they feel that there is global opportunity I wrote

:28:03. > :28:09.the low carbon economy and that is real and substantial -- arotnd the

:28:10. > :28:13.low carbon economy, so something the UK must maximise its involvdment in.

:28:14. > :28:19.She is probing quite understandably and quite rightly and that hs

:28:20. > :28:22.something I want to address. UK diplomacy, Madame Deputy Spdaker, is

:28:23. > :28:27.widely recognised as having played an important role in securing the

:28:28. > :28:32.Paris agreement, and not just in securing it but in shaping ht.

:28:33. > :28:37.Because if you look at what actually countries have signed up to in terms

:28:38. > :28:42.of the framework for the colmitment going forward, they have cldarly

:28:43. > :28:48.been influenced and shaped by our structure in the UK, and th`t is

:28:49. > :28:51.enormously welcome. Our influence was not based on symbolism but on

:28:52. > :28:59.substance. We were the first to put our own house in order, putting

:29:00. > :29:03.targets into law, that remahn a world leading and implement the

:29:04. > :29:07.policies to meet them. We then established what is still the most

:29:08. > :29:18.extensive network of climatd at a chase in our overseas embassies of

:29:19. > :29:22.any country in the world -- attaches. We had green finance,

:29:23. > :29:27.climate legislation, and we are now currently working with the Chinese

:29:28. > :29:33.on their own trading scheme, and in many of these areas UK expertise is

:29:34. > :29:36.world leading, and sharing ht has strengthened our bilateral relations

:29:37. > :29:41.and opened up commercial opportunities. I would like to pay

:29:42. > :29:46.full respect to Sir David Khng in the work he has done over m`ny years

:29:47. > :29:50.with real commitment and passion which he maintains today. Now, we

:29:51. > :29:55.have played a leading role saw on the issue of international climate

:29:56. > :30:00.finance. Head of Paris we committed to committing at least ?5.8 billion,

:30:01. > :30:03.serious money, of international climate finance over the next five

:30:04. > :30:07.years, to do something really important, which is to support Pura

:30:08. > :30:13.countries in terms of raising their level of ambition to reduce

:30:14. > :30:18.emissions and strengthen thdir resilience to climate in security --

:30:19. > :30:26.poorer countries. And with the climate finance brief at DFHD, and

:30:27. > :30:34.what are seen in trips to Africa about exposure and the cost attached

:30:35. > :30:39.to a lack of resilience to climate change, it makes it even cldarer in

:30:40. > :30:42.my mind about the importancd of international climate finance and I

:30:43. > :30:45.am very proud of our lead and the fact that we have been asked by the

:30:46. > :30:49.global community to take thd lead into Marrakesh on setting up the

:30:50. > :30:53.road map for further emission in that area. So we arrived in Paris

:30:54. > :30:57.well respected with a strong set of relationships, and on top of that

:30:58. > :31:00.the UK negotiating team in the UN is recognised as one of the stronger

:31:01. > :31:03.still the world. It was rightly praised after Paris for havhng

:31:04. > :31:07.played a key role bringing together very diverse countries into the

:31:08. > :31:13.agreement, and before closing at think it is important to also put on

:31:14. > :31:19.record my personal appreciation played by the -- of the leadership

:31:20. > :31:21.role played by the Home Secretary of the Member of Parliament for

:31:22. > :31:28.Hastings. I would like to rdassure the House that all of these elements

:31:29. > :31:31.of our influence remained strong. Our bilateral cooperation whth key

:31:32. > :31:35.international partners on climate and energy remains as wide reaching

:31:36. > :31:39.and ambitious as ever. As I said, our climate finance over thd next

:31:40. > :31:43.five years will be 50% greater than it was over the past five ydars Our

:31:44. > :31:49.investment in clean energy research and development will double over the

:31:50. > :31:51.next five years and we are now a leading member of a group of 20

:31:52. > :31:58.countries that have all madd this commitment and agreed... Thd

:31:59. > :32:02.financial sector and indeed our governor of our Bank of England is

:32:03. > :32:06.leading the way globally on finance and on the really important issue of

:32:07. > :32:10.climate risk disclosure, and the Bank of England is co-chairhng the

:32:11. > :32:17.T20's work on the screen finance with the People's Bank Of China The

:32:18. > :32:21.negotiating teams across Government remain connected not only on the

:32:22. > :32:25.process which we will discuss soon again on Marrakesh but also on

:32:26. > :32:34.emissions from civil aviation, the maritime sector and HFCs. I agree

:32:35. > :32:37.ratifying the Paris agreement soon is important symbolically and that

:32:38. > :32:41.is why we will do that as soon as we can but it is simpler not credible,

:32:42. > :32:48.Madame Deputy Speaker, to stggest our international influence hangs on

:32:49. > :32:51.this one point of symbolism which in fact it is so firmly rooted in in

:32:52. > :32:54.substance. We in this Government are proud of the leadership the UK has

:32:55. > :33:01.shown and we have absolutelx no intention of surrendering

:33:02. > :33:08.Our influence overseas will rest on our action at home. Few countries

:33:09. > :33:16.can a greater claim to leaddrship and decarbonisation than thd UK We

:33:17. > :33:21.set a legally binding target to reduce our emissions by at least 80%

:33:22. > :33:26.compared to 1990. This targdt is in line to the Paris agreements's goal

:33:27. > :33:32.of keeping temperature rise to well below 2 degrees. We didn't just set

:33:33. > :33:39.targets. We focused not on the symbolism but on substance. We have

:33:40. > :33:47.reduced UK emissions by 36% in 014 compared to 1990. Between 2010 and

:33:48. > :33:54.2015 we've reduced emissions by 17%. The biggest reduction in a single

:33:55. > :33:59.parliament. On this journey it is worth pointing out we have proven

:34:00. > :34:08.something important. We havd proven something that was in doubt when we

:34:09. > :34:13.started debating this in 2005 and 2006. Does occur emissions come at

:34:14. > :34:19.the expense of economic growth? It doesn't. UK emissions have degree

:34:20. > :34:28.since 1991 GDP has increased. By 2014 emissions had fallen 36% of GDP

:34:29. > :34:34.has increased by 61% since 0990 We have proved the green growth is a

:34:35. > :34:40.reality. We have investment in clean energy. 99% of our solar power has

:34:41. > :34:43.been installed since 2010. Renewables provide a greater share

:34:44. > :34:54.of our electricity generation Dan Cole. I am confident this progress

:34:55. > :35:00.will continue. We are on tr`ck for 35% of our electricity to come from

:35:01. > :35:06.renewables by 2020, as we ddvelop our emissions reduction plan and I

:35:07. > :35:11.will respond to the provocation which is what it was from the

:35:12. > :35:16.honourable gentleman, which is one of the top priorities of thd

:35:17. > :35:21.department, we will set a course towards deeper emission redtctions

:35:22. > :35:26.in treating and transport. He asked me about emission reduction plan and

:35:27. > :35:33.he distorted, and I think manufactured, any suggestions of

:35:34. > :35:40.gossip from the Secretary of State for climate, and distorted what I

:35:41. > :35:45.said last night. He needs to check his sources. We will talk about the

:35:46. > :35:49.emissions reduction plan. The first point of this is it matters

:35:50. > :35:58.enormously. Any suggestion from in this government isn't taking it

:35:59. > :36:05.seriously or doesn't understand the importance of this plan is dntirely

:36:06. > :36:13.misleading and miss represent our petition. It is important for the

:36:14. > :36:17.reasons he states for underpinning the credibility of our progress

:36:18. > :36:24.towards these very challenghng decarbonisation targets but also

:36:25. > :36:28.because, as he stated, if done well they will send the signal to market

:36:29. > :36:37.for investments for the mobhlisation of the Private sector. The lost

:36:38. > :36:44.important thing is to get this right. I am going to finish because

:36:45. > :36:53.he had plenty of time and they would like to make this point, he knows I

:36:54. > :36:57.am laid-back but he stirred me. Everything that drives the

:36:58. > :37:00.conversations we are having about the emission reduction plan is about

:37:01. > :37:10.we have got to do this propdrly We have got to get this right. The

:37:11. > :37:14.reality is, and he knows thhs, what lies before us is challenging. We

:37:15. > :37:23.have to take people with us. We have to take a whole set of new linisters

:37:24. > :37:28.who need time to get on top of the issues because they are so

:37:29. > :37:38.important. We need to engagd with the private sector, we need to

:37:39. > :37:45.engage with the NGOs. We nedd to make sure it is connected whth the

:37:46. > :37:52.work being done in the industrial strategy because Paris changes so

:37:53. > :37:55.much now. Not least the two largest economies in the world are saying we

:37:56. > :38:05.are now set out on a path to decarbonisation of our power

:38:06. > :38:12.stations. We need to get thhs right and simply all I was saying that is

:38:13. > :38:19.the priority. If we can do `ll those things by the end of 2016, great.

:38:20. > :38:23.But the overriding priority is to get it right and that is wh`t drives

:38:24. > :38:28.us. I hope that are supportdd by the members of all size of the House you

:38:29. > :38:35.can see this commitment is hmportant for our own UK national intdrest and

:38:36. > :38:39.identity as responsible cithzens. I am going to conclude that otr

:38:40. > :38:43.primary task here is to man`ge the risk but all this investment

:38:44. > :38:49.innovation is creating one of the most important economic

:38:50. > :38:54.opportunities the UK has sedn since the industrial revolution. Global

:38:55. > :39:00.low carbon market is estimated to be worth about $5 trillion. It is

:39:01. > :39:05.focused to expand rapidly. Hn the next 15 years it is estimatdd at

:39:06. > :39:10.around 90 trillion US dollars will be invested in the world's dnergy

:39:11. > :39:18.systems, urban infrastructure and land-use and the proportion of it

:39:19. > :39:22.needs to be low carbon. Our leadership and UK experiencd will

:39:23. > :39:28.put UK industry and the prile benefit -- position to benefit. It

:39:29. > :39:34.is worth ?46 million today. It employs 240,000 people. That is

:39:35. > :39:38.great potential for it to continue to create high-value jobs in

:39:39. > :39:46.construction, manufacturing and service. That is why and it is a

:39:47. > :39:53.genuine point of difference here, the creation of the new Dep`rtment

:39:54. > :40:00.of business entity that energy is such an exciting opportunitx. As we

:40:01. > :40:05.contemplate the importance of Paris, as we go through the processes, we

:40:06. > :40:08.think about the future of otr places and industries and sectors `nd what

:40:09. > :40:12.we can do to make them more competitive. What we can do to

:40:13. > :40:26.broaden opportunity in this country and make the economy work for

:40:27. > :40:42.everyone. It must be right. I regret that the opposition continuds to

:40:43. > :40:48.show that the government as it is. Is this government not showhng they

:40:49. > :40:51.really have thought deeply `bout the situation by linking business with

:40:52. > :41:00.energy and with this low carbon era into tackling climate changd? This

:41:01. > :41:03.shows a whole new move in which this is the way to go if we are really

:41:04. > :41:07.serious about climate changd but with linking it with business.

:41:08. > :41:13.I couldn't agree more. The feedback we're getting from the business

:41:14. > :41:19.community on this is extremdly positive. They want governmdnt to

:41:20. > :41:27.join things up. I have got to finish because backbenchers must gdt in.

:41:28. > :41:32.Can you tell us when we're going to see the carbon plan for the

:41:33. > :41:36.emissions reduction plan? I know he has been busy talking to

:41:37. > :41:42.his colleagues but he may h`ve missed that bit of my speech when I

:41:43. > :41:46.talked about we are reviewing where we are with that plan, it is

:41:47. > :41:51.massively important, it has got to be done well and when we wotld like

:41:52. > :41:57.to do it, we'd like to do is buy the end of 2016. We are reviewing the

:41:58. > :42:02.process and if that changes we will make an announcement and a decision

:42:03. > :42:10.at an appropriate point. Whdn we're ready is the answer to that. We have

:42:11. > :42:14.always been in the UK and that the PM has made it clear, we always will

:42:15. > :42:21.be an outward looking country. Brexit doesn't change this. We have

:42:22. > :42:25.an unrivalled set of relationships around the world and our le`dership

:42:26. > :42:28.on climate change is recognhsed in the key international grouphngs We

:42:29. > :42:31.will continue to use the authority that cancel our domestic tr`ck

:42:32. > :42:40.record to shape the international. Few issues that affect our

:42:41. > :42:43.prosperity and poverty reduction ambitions are as important `s

:42:44. > :42:48.climate change. We can rightfully be proud of the road we have played

:42:49. > :42:54.across all parties and both sides of the House. This government dmbraces

:42:55. > :42:57.the challenge of keeping thd country on track to meet our long-tdrm

:42:58. > :43:03.domestic commitments in a f`irway, in a most cost-effective wax

:43:04. > :43:08.possible. We will do everything we can to continue to maintain our

:43:09. > :43:12.influence to make sure other people play their part and we will do

:43:13. > :43:18.everything we can to make stre on this long-term journey we m`ximise

:43:19. > :43:21.the benefits to British bushnesses, to British consumers and to the

:43:22. > :43:24.British taxpayer. I leave the House in no doubt about the commitments of

:43:25. > :43:33.this government to play a ftll part in the global effort to improve our

:43:34. > :43:37.client. I suggest to the honourable gentleman that he does not put his

:43:38. > :43:43.motion to the vote. Callum McCaig. That was a wrong

:43:44. > :43:50.conclusion. I have been sat like a taut spring. I will take sole time

:43:51. > :43:57.to get used to the new ministerial team. The House 's longest serving

:43:58. > :44:07.front bench climate change spokesman. I think we are hdre in

:44:08. > :44:11.our quarterly debate on clilate change, it seems we regularly

:44:12. > :44:15.discuss this matter. That is important but it is just a shame

:44:16. > :44:19.that it is speaking to the same faces. That is a wider body of folk

:44:20. > :44:24.on all parties who could do with hearing some of this and it is to

:44:25. > :44:31.deeply dreadful it is the s`me faces and lastly the same arguments. We

:44:32. > :44:34.can post that on the somewh`t and I think the shadow Secretary of State

:44:35. > :44:38.is attempting to do that in terms of the debate we are having today. I

:44:39. > :44:41.welcome the fact we're having this debate. I listened carefullx to the

:44:42. > :44:48.minister in terms of what hd suggesting. I am still at a loss as

:44:49. > :44:52.to why we can't press on with this. He said we see the ratification

:44:53. > :44:58.process as a start and we whll start as soon as possible. As we say the

:44:59. > :45:04.north-east of Scotland, it light be time to nip on a wee bit. This is

:45:05. > :45:09.genuinely important. The sylbolism the minister talked about is key.

:45:10. > :45:13.The UK has been a leader in this but with the ratification by thd US

:45:14. > :45:18.China, France and others we risk passing on the bat and others. That

:45:19. > :45:23.will be regrettable from thd UK s global voice on this. It is

:45:24. > :45:27.regrettable in terms of the lack of opportunity, losing the impdtus and

:45:28. > :45:31.losing that technological ldad and industry lead that we potentially

:45:32. > :45:37.have in terms of deploying the technologies that will make the

:45:38. > :45:41.Paris Agreement is possible. That is something to be celebrated. A year

:45:42. > :45:47.ago we were discussing the possibilities of Peacock and I don't

:45:48. > :45:51.think anyone thought the de`l would have been as strong as it is. There

:45:52. > :45:56.is a lot to be done but a ddal to keep the global deal, a global

:45:57. > :46:01.consensus to keep global warming below 2 degrees with an ambhtion to

:46:02. > :46:07.1.5 is to be welcomed. They are incredibly challenging targdts and

:46:08. > :46:14.delay in terms of ratificathon will not help. We need to get on with

:46:15. > :46:18.this. I think the terms of the debate are shifting. This is not

:46:19. > :46:23.just a debate of NGOs and those who cares. It is becoming mainstream in

:46:24. > :46:30.terms of political debate. The world was my biggest asset manager in a

:46:31. > :46:34.warning to investors said wd can no longer ignore climate changd.

:46:35. > :46:37.Climate factors have been under appreciated and overpriced because

:46:38. > :46:41.they have perceived to be dhstant. We are a degree warmer than the

:46:42. > :46:46.long-term trends and three of the hottest years on record havd been

:46:47. > :46:51.the last three years. If th`t is not a wake-up call to what we nded to

:46:52. > :46:55.do, if we're to keep things below that 1.5 degrees we'd better get

:46:56. > :46:58.started, we better get started quickly and we need to deploy the

:46:59. > :47:03.full range of our technologhcal know-how here and abroad or we're

:47:04. > :47:09.going to miss that one chance we get at making sure we do not sedk

:47:10. > :47:13.catastrophic climate change. The changes, the impact of clim`te

:47:14. > :47:20.change here in the UK have been set out by the climate change committee,

:47:21. > :47:23.increased flooding, conversdly drought, food shortages and

:47:24. > :47:28.potentially damage to critical infrastructure. This is a bhg

:47:29. > :47:36.country, this is a rich country we could weather a lot of that. No pun

:47:37. > :47:40.intended. But there are othdrs who are not so fortunate. We nedd to be

:47:41. > :47:44.planning ahead, we need to get the mitigation and the adoption in that

:47:45. > :47:49.the ways it is going to be lore expensive but we also need to help

:47:50. > :47:56.others. The most precious thing that came out of the agreement is that

:47:57. > :48:00.international consensus. Thdre is a suggestion that consensus is already

:48:01. > :48:10.beginning to fray. The preshdent of the Philippines who is not someone I

:48:11. > :48:15.would seek to quote, but I think this is symbolic of the atthtude

:48:16. > :48:20.change that we risk causing if we're not serious about this and get on

:48:21. > :48:24.with it, he said in terms of the ratification and the IND se` for the

:48:25. > :48:29.Philippines, you are trying to stifle earth, that is stupid, I will

:48:30. > :48:33.not honour it. He did changd his tune a little bit later in

:48:34. > :48:36.addressing the Philippine p`rliament and saying, addressing clim`te

:48:37. > :48:41.change should be a top priority is built upon a fair equation. It

:48:42. > :48:47.should not stymie our industrialisation and that hs fair.

:48:48. > :48:52.That is a fair point. The greatest eye Moody is the countries who have

:48:53. > :48:58.contributed least to climatd change at the countries that stand to lose

:48:59. > :49:03.the most. -- the greatest irony The putter as members of those

:49:04. > :49:08.communities who have contributed even less to it will be the first to

:49:09. > :49:12.see their livelihoods and w`y of life destroyed by climate change. We

:49:13. > :49:16.have two address the problel of climate change but we have two

:49:17. > :49:21.address it with climate justice at its heart.

:49:22. > :49:27.The ?100 billion that was at the heart of the agreement in P`ris in

:49:28. > :49:32.terms of climate finance is absolutely fundamental. It hs money

:49:33. > :49:40.that can be used for adaption, for new technologies, but it has to be

:49:41. > :49:47.new money and built on a consensus, an international consensus, that

:49:48. > :49:50.recognises the rich parts of this world have contributed more than

:49:51. > :49:52.their fair share to contribtting the problem and causing the mess and

:49:53. > :49:59.that we are certain we will pay more of the price in cleaning up that

:50:00. > :50:03.mess. We cannot have a systdm where global development is stymidd

:50:04. > :50:09.because countries cannot industrialise in the model we have

:50:10. > :50:12.used. We need to have new models of industrialisation. They need to skip

:50:13. > :50:17.the dirty face and move on to the Queen faces. They need to sde the

:50:18. > :50:24.investment in solar, in wind and the new technologies that will come

:50:25. > :50:28.they will need support -- move to the clean phases. Some of that will

:50:29. > :50:31.be in aid, no doubt, but it also comes with an opportunity. We have

:50:32. > :50:37.the technology is to do that, we have the business opportunities to

:50:38. > :50:40.do that, we can help. This could be a mutually beneficial partndrship

:50:41. > :50:45.with the poorer countries of this planet, to help them develop. That

:50:46. > :50:49.is a moral responsibility I believe we have, but also an economhc

:50:50. > :50:53.opportunity, so if your mor`ls are suffering and you do not fedl

:50:54. > :50:58.particularly compelled to act based on the moral imperative of ht, try

:50:59. > :51:02.and make some money out of that at least, and it would be a wax to go

:51:03. > :51:07.forward. The two things can go hand in hand but they need the correct

:51:08. > :51:12.support, both at home and abroad. Now, the minister spoke abott how it

:51:13. > :51:19.is really important and verx welcome that in his terms on the tin of

:51:20. > :51:22.Government there is industrhal strategy, and I think that hs

:51:23. > :51:27.welcome, but I think we havd to reflect the converse of that. You

:51:28. > :51:32.cannot have it both ways, and off the tin has come climate ch`nge from

:51:33. > :51:36.the lexicon of Government, `nd to a degree I think it is regrettable. It

:51:37. > :51:40.may have been an oversight, it may have been deliberate, I do not know,

:51:41. > :51:46.and nor do I particularly c`re about the motivations for it, but it can

:51:47. > :51:48.easily be rectified, and it can be rectified by putting addressing

:51:49. > :51:53.climate change right at the very heart, not just of this Govdrnment

:51:54. > :51:57.department, but of Government as a whole. With all due respect to the

:51:58. > :52:01.Secretary of State, he is not going to solve this problem alone. This

:52:02. > :52:05.will take cross Government, cross sectoral engagement with thd

:52:06. > :52:07.devolved administrations, whth the business community. This is

:52:08. > :52:11.fundamental to everything wd will have to do as a country if we are

:52:12. > :52:16.going to get it right, so ldt's put it at the heart, and as the minister

:52:17. > :52:20.said, let's make a start, and start with the big symbolic gesture. Let's

:52:21. > :52:25.ratify the Paris agreement `s soon as possible. We can speak about the

:52:26. > :52:28.fact that we have led the world in the climate change act, and I can

:52:29. > :52:34.speak about the fact that Scotland has led the UK in terms of that

:52:35. > :52:46.that we have exceeded our t`rgets in terms of the 2020 targets. We are

:52:47. > :52:49.already seeing reduction on the 1990 deadlines of 48.5% against ` target

:52:50. > :52:53.of 42% at the minister has committed to extending that target, and it has

:52:54. > :53:00.already been reached. That hs the high ambition we need and it needs

:53:01. > :53:04.to be across all sectors -- 40 .8%. We are getting on fairly well with

:53:05. > :53:08.electricity, doing poorer in terms of heat and transport, so they are

:53:09. > :53:14.the next big challenges. It will need money, support, innovation and

:53:15. > :53:18.it will need the skills, so right across the remit of Governmdnt there

:53:19. > :53:25.has to be that ambition to deliver upon it. Now the shadow Secretary of

:53:26. > :53:29.State spoke about the damagd caused to investor confidence and he listed

:53:30. > :53:36.a whole host of things. I would like to gently suggest that just because

:53:37. > :53:42.there is not 100% agreement on this, it doesn't mean that that mdans we

:53:43. > :53:50.risk losing cross-party consensus. If ever there was an issue where we

:53:51. > :53:55.could benefit from having political parties seeking to outbid e`ch

:53:56. > :53:58.other, it is the issue of climate change, and I think we should

:53:59. > :54:02.welcome the fact that the L`bour Party is trying to outdo thd

:54:03. > :54:05.Conservative Party, trying to outdo us. We should all be trying to outdo

:54:06. > :54:12.each other on this because that ambition, that desire to sed that

:54:13. > :54:16.happen, will make it happen. So I think... I have commended in the

:54:17. > :54:20.past number of things the Government has done. I think the former

:54:21. > :54:23.Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change played a gre`t role

:54:24. > :54:27.in reading the high ambition coalition at the negotiations in

:54:28. > :54:33.Paris. That is welcome. In ` few months' time, the conferencd of

:54:34. > :54:36.parties will meet again in Marrakesh. If were to have these

:54:37. > :54:40.discussions I would rather the UK goes to the table and is able to

:54:41. > :54:45.demonstrate the progress th`t has been made in that year. But it can

:54:46. > :54:54.go and see, we have ratified our commitment, we are pushing `head, we

:54:55. > :55:03.have taken X,Y and Z stats, which I will go on tour in terms of what

:55:04. > :55:06.that should be -- X,Y and Z steps. I think if we were to turn up and not

:55:07. > :55:10.have done that, not have gone to the ratification process, that would

:55:11. > :55:12.undermine our position which would be distinctly regrettable bdcause

:55:13. > :55:16.the voice and the soft power and pressure that has been put on in

:55:17. > :55:21.this area is one of the leading lights of British diplomacy, I

:55:22. > :55:29.think, in many years, potentially in my lifetime, quite frankly. So that

:55:30. > :55:38.is too precious to go to waste. In terms of the X,Y and Z, I don't

:55:39. > :55:43.think the policies, the U-ttrns and such that the Government has... Or,

:55:44. > :55:49.in fairness that the previots Government took, in renewable

:55:50. > :55:52.energy, has been welcome. I think there are unresolved issues and

:55:53. > :56:00.questions for investor confhdence brought on by the Brexit vote.. One

:56:01. > :56:06.of the first reports of my committee, the committee of climate

:56:07. > :56:11.change, undertook, it was to not like I'm suddenly make annotncements

:56:12. > :56:15.that has happened recently `nd I was reassured that would not happen

:56:16. > :56:17.again so I am grateful for that I thank my honourable friend for his

:56:18. > :56:20.intervention and commended the report this committee. We h`d a

:56:21. > :56:25.debate on that before the rdcess and it was a welcome debate. It pleased

:56:26. > :56:29.out an awful lot of the isstes and that jumping around, that policy

:56:30. > :56:32.change, I do not think it is helpful. We need to set cle`r

:56:33. > :56:39.guidelines. We need to set process that decarbonisation will look like,

:56:40. > :56:42.and needs to be a degree of flexibility for new technologies to

:56:43. > :56:45.emerge, but there needs to not be the cliff edge, we do not nded to

:56:46. > :56:51.march people of the top of the hill then off cliff face, as has happened

:56:52. > :56:56.perhaps with solar and wind and potentially in future with other

:56:57. > :57:00.technologies. That upsets the investor confidence in a wax that we

:57:01. > :57:06.cannot afford. It will make doing what we need to do more expdnsive,

:57:07. > :57:14.as the banks factor in additional risk into their financing

:57:15. > :57:19.agreements. We all lose by the ad hoc nature of policy in this

:57:20. > :57:23.regard... Yes, I will give way. On climate change we have had some

:57:24. > :57:25.positive reaction from the ministerial team that I hopd some

:57:26. > :57:32.revision of the original ch`rter will be made so that with whnd

:57:33. > :57:39.farms, with the Scottish islands, it should have left costs, it hs less

:57:40. > :57:47.cost there than in other parts of the UK. I agree wholeheartedly. To

:57:48. > :57:50.take things forward we need a proper decarbonisation plan. In terms

:57:51. > :57:53.particularly of electricity, and he has touched on that, it needs to be

:57:54. > :57:58.there. There is a tremendous resource waiting to be unlocked

:57:59. > :58:02.Likewise there is tremendous resource potential in terms of wave

:58:03. > :58:06.and particular tidal energy in Scotland and Swansea Bay behng

:58:07. > :58:11.another example. These are big programmes. They are potenthally

:58:12. > :58:14.costly in the first instancd, but we missed the boat with onshord wind in

:58:15. > :58:22.terms of awning and develophng the technology where the real money is.

:58:23. > :58:25.-- owning. We are partly thdre with offshore wind but again the main

:58:26. > :58:31.basis of the technology is out with these islands. We are -- with title

:58:32. > :58:35.in particular we have the chance to be the world leader. In the last

:58:36. > :58:40.fortnight we have seen fant`stic announcement in the North of

:58:41. > :58:43.Scotland in terms of northern Atlantis announcing programles in

:58:44. > :58:48.terms of tidal energy -- with tidal in particular. They need to be the

:58:49. > :58:55.first of a kind, not one of a kind, and that includes continued

:58:56. > :59:01.commitment to market. We nedd to support the commitment for 000

:59:02. > :59:05.megawatts of tidal, we need to ensure that is made. That is

:59:06. > :59:10.fundamental to delivering the future of tidal energy. It has hugd

:59:11. > :59:14.benefits. Clearly it is far more predictable than other forms of

:59:15. > :59:18.renewables. It really takes an awful lot of boxers. It is costly in

:59:19. > :59:24.initial phases but this is new technology. -- an awful lot of

:59:25. > :59:30.boxes. But let's look to thd future and not the other cost. If H have

:59:31. > :59:32.one criticism of the previots climate and energy department, it

:59:33. > :59:38.was that everything is seen as a cost, not an investment. Thhs is an

:59:39. > :59:42.investment. If we get the tdchnology right and other world leaders in

:59:43. > :59:46.tidal energy, and potentially wave, to come, that provides us whth a

:59:47. > :59:59.reliable renewable source of energy, but also opens in market. There is a

:00:00. > :00:04.lot of sea in the world, a lot of tides, so let's not kill thhs before

:00:05. > :00:07.it has got off the ground. Let's open that pathway, allow it to

:00:08. > :00:12.develop and allow it to bring the cost in then let alone it to go

:00:13. > :00:16.global. To conclude, Mr Deptty Speaker, we can have consensus on

:00:17. > :00:21.this. We are probably not going to get it today but that does not mean

:00:22. > :00:26.it should not be the aim for the future. We can get this dond but we

:00:27. > :00:30.need to start. Paris is that start. I agree with the Minister on that.

:00:31. > :00:38.So let's get on and get it ratified, then let's get it delivered. Thank

:00:39. > :00:42.you, Mr Deputy Speaker. Likd the front bench, I was surprised to see

:00:43. > :00:47.today's debate went as far `s I can tell that's has a consensus on

:00:48. > :00:50.tackling climate change and ratifying the Paris agreement. I

:00:51. > :00:54.attend many meetings on these subjects and I know just how

:00:55. > :00:58.heartfelt the concern for this cause is on the Opposition benches but

:00:59. > :01:02.also how it is the same on these benches, so to present some sort of

:01:03. > :01:05.disunity is somewhat on helpful when what exists in this place is a real

:01:06. > :01:10.consensus of opinion that this is a real challenge that we must all go

:01:11. > :01:19.on and tackle together. The Climate Change Act achieved consensts. In

:01:20. > :01:22.Paris our then Secretary of State led those negotiations with great

:01:23. > :01:27.style and was applauded for doing so on all sides of the House. The fifth

:01:28. > :01:31.carbon budget was recommenddd and there was concern it would not be

:01:32. > :01:34.adopted but it was, in full. I think therefore we can see the intent of

:01:35. > :01:40.this Government and House is that we should continue to decarbonhse at

:01:41. > :01:44.best speed. But it is not so straightforward to ratify the treaty

:01:45. > :01:50.here in the UK, as members of the EU, as it is for the USA and China

:01:51. > :01:53.and elsewhere. I have no dotbt that this Government remains as committed

:01:54. > :01:58.to it as ever and will come up with a timeline that works legislatively

:01:59. > :02:01.and within the reality of what the rest of the European Union hs doing,

:02:02. > :02:07.so we should not seek to crdate any sort of concern that doesn't really

:02:08. > :02:13.exist. The Government's gredn credentials are absolutely sound.

:02:14. > :02:15.?52 billion has been investdd in renewable energy since 2010,

:02:16. > :02:24.deployment of renewables has accelerated under this Government,

:02:25. > :02:28.but we have to balance the dnergy trilemma. Price, decarbonis`tion and

:02:29. > :02:35.the energy needs are at somdwhat odds with each other and thdre needs

:02:36. > :02:38.to be there for sense in how we proceed. The Government is clear we

:02:39. > :02:41.need to meet these targets but we need to do so without comprhsing on

:02:42. > :02:45.the other tonight. I do verx much agree with the member for Aberdeen

:02:46. > :02:48.South who rightly says it is the same people in these debates every

:02:49. > :02:55.time. That is a real shame, because I think these issues are far more

:02:56. > :03:00.wide-ranging than those who simply have an interest in energy policy on

:03:01. > :03:05.the environment. I am going to have a go at suggesting perhaps ` line of

:03:06. > :03:09.argument that may attract a wider audience is that whatever your view

:03:10. > :03:14.on climate change, human made, there is no reason not to support the many

:03:15. > :03:18.opportunities that come frol our drive to decarbonise. The examples

:03:19. > :03:22.on heat, if I may, Mr Deputx Speaker. I went to visit our heating

:03:23. > :03:28.system out in London recently and when I did so I went into a flat to

:03:29. > :03:32.meet a chapter that was on benefits and was right on the povertx line.

:03:33. > :03:40.And he was suffering from ftel poverty. He had put ?30 onto his new

:03:41. > :03:43.meter, pay-as-you-go meter, in his flat, once the district league

:03:44. > :03:47.system had been installed. He did so in October and I went to sed him at

:03:48. > :03:54.the beginning of March and there were still ?13 left on that meter.

:03:55. > :04:00.He had heeded his flat for `n entire winter for ?17, which is just

:04:01. > :04:04.extraordinary! It is socially just to be achieving these poliches not

:04:05. > :04:21.just for climate change -- heated his

:04:22. > :04:26.The proceeds from the heating network have allowed it to build a

:04:27. > :04:31.new cancer centre. Extraordhnary. I know of a hotel change which is

:04:32. > :04:34.installing CHP and they are making huge savings on energy costs were

:04:35. > :04:40.meeting absolutely the needs of their customers for roasting hot

:04:41. > :04:48.water. They are achieving this while saving money and decarbonishng. We

:04:49. > :04:57.must continue to drive towards greater efficiency. Too much is

:04:58. > :05:02.being wasted. I raise heat `nd the need for greater efficiency together

:05:03. > :05:05.to make the point it is the marginal financial gains that have

:05:06. > :05:08.experiences by businesses and homeowners that will encour`ge

:05:09. > :05:13.people to take on these technologies. We all know the

:05:14. > :05:18.cumulative effect of their tptake will be a huge reduction in our

:05:19. > :05:24.prediction of carbon and thdrefore the ability to meet our targets I

:05:25. > :05:27.hope to speak tomorrow in the backbench business debate on the

:05:28. > :05:32.fourth industrial revolution and so we will speak at more length then on

:05:33. > :05:37.the incredible synergies icx that are being achieved when our physical

:05:38. > :05:40.energy infrastructure collides with the exciting technological

:05:41. > :05:46.innovations that are coming through so rapidly. By seizing thosd

:05:47. > :05:49.opportunities we are not sedking to accelerating our decarbonis`tion

:05:50. > :05:55.that developing a strategy with green growth at the pursuit of zero

:05:56. > :05:58.marginal cost of energy right at its heart. Arresting climate ch`nge and

:05:59. > :06:04.splashing out on subsidy ard synonymous. As far as I can see our

:06:05. > :06:08.renewable sector in this cotntry is succeeding. Offshore wind ddployment

:06:09. > :06:14.surround Europe are bringing down the price of offshore wind. The

:06:15. > :06:18.solar industry continues to achieve a good rate of deployment. Hydro-

:06:19. > :06:23.Electric is coming, titled the working hard to achieve, th`t is a

:06:24. > :06:29.fantastic company that has dmployed some of the brightest oceanographers

:06:30. > :06:34.to look at what we can do whth wave power. There are much more

:06:35. > :06:42.technologies the site. Onshore wind, now we have recalibrated thd

:06:43. > :06:49.planning process, it is clahming to operate subsidy free. It sedms to me

:06:50. > :06:54.that sound policy on climatd change is not about the levels of subsidy.

:06:55. > :06:58.Subsidy can become a crutch if we're not careful. What the government has

:06:59. > :07:02.done is use subsidy as a lever to grow the renewables industrhes to

:07:03. > :07:07.the point at which they can go it alone. The direction of travel is

:07:08. > :07:12.clear. This government is absolutely serious about decarbonisation and

:07:13. > :07:19.meeting our climate change targets. Perhaps that is one area whdre the

:07:20. > :07:22.government policy isn't cle`r and identity not talk about the new

:07:23. > :07:29.nuclear programme. I understand absolutely Matt right honourable

:07:30. > :07:34.friend Anna Prime Minister's wish to scrutinise the Hinckley deal in

:07:35. > :07:39.detail. The new nuclear is the only low carbon generation technology

:07:40. > :07:43.that is ready to guarantee now it to meet our baseload needs in the

:07:44. > :07:47.middle of the next decade. We cannot wish away the reality that our

:07:48. > :07:55.existing nuclear fleet will decommission in the next decade or

:07:56. > :07:58.so. I seek to champion decentralised edit, and the incredible economic

:07:59. > :08:03.industrial opportunities th`t come with it but renewables plus storage

:08:04. > :08:08.is not ready to commit itself to being our baseload in the thmelines

:08:09. > :08:15.we need. Gas might seem che`p now but gas prices can change. This

:08:16. > :08:19.whole debate about Hinckley price compared to the wholesale price of

:08:20. > :08:24.energy in my view is a nonstarter. You can't build anything at the

:08:25. > :08:28.current wholesale price of dnergy. We must judge Hinckley and the wider

:08:29. > :08:35.new nuclear programme not only on the strike price as it is now, nor

:08:36. > :08:39.the current wholesale price of energy. We must consider thd cost of

:08:40. > :08:48.insufficient capacity in a decade's time. We must keep prices as low as

:08:49. > :08:53.possible. We must the Corbynite as quickly as possible. We absolutely

:08:54. > :09:02.must keep the lights on. I `m sure there will be... This will be the

:09:03. > :09:06.large set of large power st`tions we will build. I am sold on thd

:09:07. > :09:12.incredible stuff that is happening to make renewables work, thd

:09:13. > :09:16.storage, they demand. Our ftture is not big power stations but we have

:09:17. > :09:21.to take a decision now for what will power the United Kingdom in a

:09:22. > :09:25.decade's time. As exciting `s those technologies are none of thdm is

:09:26. > :09:29.ready to say in ten years' time we will keep your lights on. The new

:09:30. > :09:33.nuclear programme is and I hope the government will agree and ptt

:09:34. > :09:43.Hinckley forward at the first possible opportunity.

:09:44. > :09:47.Let me say it is a pleasure to follow the honourable member for

:09:48. > :09:51.Wells who spoke eloquently `bout renewable heat and the role it can

:09:52. > :09:57.play. I also want to commend my honourable friend on securing this

:09:58. > :10:01.important debate. He brings huge knowledge and depth to the role he

:10:02. > :10:07.is now playing and I wish hhm well in that role. I want to takd this

:10:08. > :10:12.opportunity to congratulate the new Secretary of State. Mention was made

:10:13. > :10:21.that he was my shadow when H was Secretary of State for Energy and

:10:22. > :10:35.Climate Change and I always respected his ability on endrgy He

:10:36. > :10:39.is extremely able. He is solebody I talked to since the election about

:10:40. > :10:52.the issue of climate change and I don't want to... Here's a class act.

:10:53. > :10:56.I might, having the niceties out of the way, I might add that I was

:10:57. > :11:00.recalling as I was thinking about my speech for this debate that when I

:11:01. > :11:04.was in opposition I do recall the number of things the Secret`ry of

:11:05. > :11:09.State said when he was my shadow. Among other things, more genders

:11:10. > :11:15.tariffs than the ones I propose more generous commitments for carbon

:11:16. > :11:21.capture and storage and I bdlieve more generous resources for the

:11:22. > :11:25.renewable heat incentive. I look forward to him making good on all of

:11:26. > :11:32.these aspirations he had in opposition now that he has ` chance

:11:33. > :11:40.in his new role. I want to talk in the main about the impact of

:11:41. > :11:47.climate, sorry, Brexit on climate change. I couldn't help hearing in

:11:48. > :11:52.the Minister of State's rem`rks the wheels of government sort of

:11:53. > :11:55.grinding on the issue of thhs domestic ratification. I felt as his

:11:56. > :12:08.speech warned we got more of a sense this is going to come more puickly,

:12:09. > :12:12.more slowly. I want to addrdss the essential issue of UK climate

:12:13. > :12:20.policy, it is the central issue for UK climate policy. It is about

:12:21. > :12:25.Brexit. This is the unavoid`ble context for discussions abott

:12:26. > :12:37.climate change. The Minister has been nice about him so I will say

:12:38. > :12:41.this, he talked about British diplomacy but that is a big elephant

:12:42. > :12:47.in the room for British diplomacy on climate change which is Brexit. We

:12:48. > :12:50.have got to address it. I understand the Prime Minister saying she

:12:51. > :12:54.doesn't want to have a runnhng commentary, fed enough. But that is

:12:55. > :12:59.the difference between a running commentary and a Trappist vow. They

:13:00. > :13:05.can't have a Trappist vow. We need to engage in the issues that many

:13:06. > :13:10.hard questions that are raised by Brexit for UK climate policx and say

:13:11. > :13:13.Brexit means Brexit doesn't really solve the problem. The case want to

:13:14. > :13:22.make is this, our membership of the EU has helped this be a persuader

:13:23. > :13:27.for action on global climatd change. Secondly, the ability to persuade is

:13:28. > :13:32.needed more than ever after the Paris Agreement. We all know the

:13:33. > :13:37.issue at the Paris Agreement which is an aspiration to keep global

:13:38. > :13:44.warming below 1.5 degrees, pledges that go to three degrees. Written's

:13:45. > :13:50.ability to be that persuade it is endangered by Brexit. We can't shy

:13:51. > :13:57.away from that. The real is you I want to focus on and this, the kind

:13:58. > :14:03.of Brexit we opt for whether it is hard Brexit, which leaves Britain on

:14:04. > :14:08.its own, or whether we forgd a new close relationship with the European

:14:09. > :14:12.Union is going to be crucial to the issue of UK influence and the

:14:13. > :14:17.world's ability to tackle the problem of climate change. That is

:14:18. > :14:22.why, having paid him these nice compliment, I want to tell the

:14:23. > :14:24.Secretary of State and Minister of State, they have a big

:14:25. > :14:29.responsibility in this procdss and they are aware of it. They need to

:14:30. > :14:35.make sure we have the right outcome in these negotiations on thd issue

:14:36. > :14:37.of climate and energy. Mr ddputies beaker, the starting point for

:14:38. > :14:44.addressing this question is to understand in this area and in many

:14:45. > :14:48.areas, our debates with the cooperation with the EU hasn't ended

:14:49. > :14:59.with the referendum, it has only just begun. We all know the reality,

:15:00. > :15:03.people voted to leave the Etropean Union but the model we decide has

:15:04. > :15:11.got to be a part of the second debate and negotiation. We currently

:15:12. > :15:13.negotiate as part of the European Union in the international

:15:14. > :15:19.negotiations on climate change. As part of the EU we are on a par with

:15:20. > :15:24.players like China, the United States because the EU is responsible

:15:25. > :15:29.for 10% of global emissions and Britain is responsible for `bout 1%

:15:30. > :15:33.of global emissions. In the EU we have been a successful advocate of

:15:34. > :15:40.strong European ambition on climate change and we have been at the

:15:41. > :15:48.forefront of landmark international agreement punching above our weight

:15:49. > :15:58.as a country. We have seen ht under successive governments. In Kyoto and

:15:59. > :16:03.with the role played by the last Secretary of State for Energy and

:16:04. > :16:06.Climate Change in the negothations around the Paris Agreement. We

:16:07. > :16:11.should be proud in this House of what Britain has been able to

:16:12. > :16:14.achieve. But we should also be under no illusions, the influence and

:16:15. > :16:19.Robert Britain has played in the last two decades on climate change,

:16:20. > :16:25.which have been hard won, is now gravely at risk. The danger is in

:16:26. > :16:29.this area and many others, we're outside the room when the bhg

:16:30. > :16:38.decisions are made all we are in the room and we do so -- as bit part

:16:39. > :16:43.players. There is a recent paper on this. They said the danger of Brexit

:16:44. > :16:47.is we would, move along sidd at the second-tier power such as Atstralia,

:16:48. > :16:51.Canada and South Korea. All those countries have played varying roles

:16:52. > :16:56.on the issue of climate change, some of them important and honourable but

:16:57. > :17:06.we have had greater influence and I want to preserve that infludnce

:17:07. > :17:11.There is another danger as well We have been persuaders for ambition in

:17:12. > :17:15.the European Union and the real danger is that our absence from the

:17:16. > :17:21.EU waters down and dilutes the commitments of the European union,

:17:22. > :17:24.it tips the centre of gravity away from the high completion cotntries

:17:25. > :17:29.to those countries which have more anxiety about the issue. Th`t is

:17:30. > :17:33.what the implications of Brdxit are not self-serving ones about

:17:34. > :17:37.Britain's influence in the world Britain's influence on clim`te

:17:38. > :17:44.change, the about the world's ability to make sure the right are

:17:45. > :17:48.happening. I add this, the risk that I described about Britain's

:17:49. > :17:51.influence comes with other associated dangers including the

:17:52. > :17:56.roles of British science and research which the secretarx is

:17:57. > :18:01.concerned about, which draws huge benefits from EU resources, European

:18:02. > :18:06.Investment Bank money for energy and the chain projects. Quarters of the

:18:07. > :18:11.money they have loaned given to the UK has gone on these projects. And

:18:12. > :18:18.indeed there is a massively seen about the repeal of key parts of

:18:19. > :18:23.environment legislation. I can to the question of the mandate of the

:18:24. > :18:28.referendum result. Personally, I don't believe whether British people

:18:29. > :18:33.voted to leave the EU they voted to diminish our influence in this way.

:18:34. > :18:34.Nor did they vote to weaken laws on air pollution or other environmental

:18:35. > :18:44.legislation. That is why, as I said at the

:18:45. > :18:47.outset, there is a huge responsibility on us to shape the

:18:48. > :18:52.new arrangements which can protect our natural interest in British

:18:53. > :18:55.investment. I want to talk `bout that a bit.

:18:56. > :18:59.Sensei the best we can hope for in these negotiations is a Norway style

:19:00. > :19:03.arrangements, in the Europe`n economic area or the Europe`n free

:19:04. > :19:09.trade agreement -- some say that's the best we can hope for. I was

:19:10. > :19:13.actually on holiday in Norw`y this summer, I like Norway, but H don't

:19:14. > :19:18.think our aspirations should be Norway. It is a country of `bout 5

:19:19. > :19:21.million people, we are a cotntry of about 65 million people.

:19:22. > :19:26.Traditionally, our internathonal role has been different frol buyers

:19:27. > :19:31.and, indeed, I think Norweghans would say this too. On the hssue of

:19:32. > :19:38.climate, Norway negotiates on its own, not as part of the European

:19:39. > :19:43.Union. Crucially, also, if we went for a Norway style arrangemdnts it

:19:44. > :19:47.would leave us without a vohce on key aspects of environmental

:19:48. > :19:53.legislation. We would be affected by them but we would be ruled takers,

:19:54. > :19:56.not rule-makers. That is, if you like, the Norwegian problem, that

:19:57. > :20:02.they accept directives on otr pollution etc but do not have a say

:20:03. > :20:10.in the formation of legislation -- access directives on air pollution

:20:11. > :20:13.etc. So what is to be done? Surprisingly to some, maybe, I agree

:20:14. > :20:19.with some of the Leave camp`ign Because they say we have to car

:20:20. > :20:21.about a role for Britain whhch reflects our size, position and

:20:22. > :20:25.global reach and does not necessarily emulate the rold played

:20:26. > :20:31.by other countries. I want to draw the attention of the House to be

:20:32. > :20:36.recent proposal, a pamphlet produced by a very August group. Alt. -- Paul

:20:37. > :20:42.Tapner, did Deputy chair of the Bank of England, a senior German

:20:43. > :20:46.financial adviser and an adviser between the French government. They

:20:47. > :20:51.propose a continental partndrship. What does that mean? An argtment for

:20:52. > :20:56.the closest possible corpor`tion on a host of issues around fordign and

:20:57. > :21:00.defence policy and, crucially, climate and energy -- closest

:21:01. > :21:06.possible collaboration. What should this mean? In my view, the

:21:07. > :21:10.following. It should mean that we continue to negotiate with the EU in

:21:11. > :21:14.international discussions, protecting British influencd. There

:21:15. > :21:19.is no earthly reason why following the vote on the European Unhon we

:21:20. > :21:24.should not continue to be p`rt of the European bloc on these hssues.

:21:25. > :21:27.We can write our own script for the future. We should continue to be

:21:28. > :21:31.part of the emissions trading scheme, that was something that

:21:32. > :21:37.Britain played a role in coling up with, there is no reason to leave. I

:21:38. > :21:41.believe we should continue to be part of crucial environment`l

:21:42. > :21:45.legislation, like our emisshon standards, waste management and the

:21:46. > :21:48.like. The reality of that legislation is we would probably

:21:49. > :21:58.have too accept that any wax to gain access to the single market, and it

:21:59. > :22:01.is far better to find an arrangement which gives us a say on the rules. I

:22:02. > :22:03.want to be clear, we would not continue to be members of the

:22:04. > :22:10.European Union, our status would have changed, but we would be

:22:11. > :22:14.crucial partners. In my view, it is consistent with the referendum.

:22:15. > :22:18.Whether you think we have gone too far on climate change or not far

:22:19. > :22:27.enough, nobody in this housd on whatever side has an interest in

:22:28. > :22:33.diminishing our influence. H think we are in real danger of dilinishing

:22:34. > :22:39.influence as a country on this vital issue. They are some thoughts about

:22:40. > :22:43.where we need to go and where we need to take the new relationship.

:22:44. > :22:48.There is a hard truth for Government ministers. For this to happdn, it

:22:49. > :22:54.requires those in Government Huat sensible and care about these issues

:22:55. > :22:58.to stand up to those who want hard Brexit. Hard Brexit is about

:22:59. > :23:02.attaching ourselves from thd EU on all of these issues. It is `bout

:23:03. > :23:06.some form of free trade arrangements, goodness knows what,

:23:07. > :23:10.it gets more confusing by the day as to what is at the front of the

:23:11. > :23:17.Government's mind. It is not about having these kind of relationships.

:23:18. > :23:22.I say to the three ministers sitting on the front bench, I take them as

:23:23. > :23:31.people who all care about these issues, I would really urge them,

:23:32. > :23:35.don't leave your climate can dig -- convictions at the door when it

:23:36. > :23:41.comes to the Whitehall battles around Brexit. I don't doubt their

:23:42. > :23:44.commitments, but they had to prove it in the proposals that thd

:23:45. > :23:49.Government we eventually coles forward with. Let me say thhs

:23:50. > :23:52.finally, Mr Deputy Speaker, I believe in the principle of

:23:53. > :23:56.cooperation with our closest neighbours in Europe. I belheve we

:23:57. > :24:00.are strengthened, not diminhshed, as a country when we do that. Climate

:24:01. > :24:06.change is just one example where this is the case. That was true

:24:07. > :24:10.before the referendum and is true after the referendum as well. I

:24:11. > :24:16.think the Secretary of Statd, the Minister of State, they know that,

:24:17. > :24:20.too. The stakes could not bd higher on this issue and what unfolds in

:24:21. > :24:25.the coming months and years. We will hold them to account, because I

:24:26. > :24:29.think all of us, across this house, can not just about tackling climate

:24:30. > :24:33.change but making sure we c`n continue to punch above our weight

:24:34. > :24:39.in doing so and get the right outcome for human had -- hulankind.

:24:40. > :24:44.A lot is resting on their shoulders, if they make the right decisions, we

:24:45. > :24:48.will support them. Thank you very much, Mr Deptty

:24:49. > :24:53.Speaker. May I begin by welcoming the new ministers, and the new

:24:54. > :24:57.ministerial department. I al very pleased that industrial str`tegy

:24:58. > :25:03.will now be a huge part of what is going on. I think it is impossible

:25:04. > :25:08.to separate out industrial strategy from climate change and energy. I

:25:09. > :25:09.want to suggest to the ministers, with the greatest of respect,

:25:10. > :25:26.experienced, though they ard, that when their team of advhsers and

:25:27. > :25:29.experts coming to tell them that temperature is rising directly as a

:25:30. > :25:31.result of carbon dioxide, that they merely deploy the scepticisl and

:25:32. > :25:33.intelligence that I know thdy have and ask a few pertinent questions,

:25:34. > :25:36.and try to get answers before embarking on industrial dechsions

:25:37. > :25:41.which will have an impact on big industry and energy using industry,

:25:42. > :25:45.such as the steel industry, which is important to me. Any time I speak,

:25:46. > :25:50.and I don't want to speak for too long today, I make the point

:25:51. > :25:54.deliberately and repeatedly that I accept climate change, I have never

:25:55. > :25:58.tried to deny yet and I havd never met a scientist yes to does. The

:25:59. > :26:04.climate has always changed, the ice age is testament to that. This has

:26:05. > :26:10.gone on over the 2 million xears, we have seen a period of ice ages

:26:11. > :26:14.usually lasting 100,000 years or so, followed by periods of around 1 ,000

:26:15. > :26:18.or 12,000 years. We are possibly coming to the end of an

:26:19. > :26:23.interglacial, we might turn our thoughts to what might happdn when

:26:24. > :26:28.the earth inevitably gets cooler. I don't deny that the climate

:26:29. > :26:32.continues to change, no sensible scientist ever has. But the point I

:26:33. > :26:37.would make is that the clim`te change we have seen over thd last

:26:38. > :26:42.250 years is not a particul`rly exceptional. Whilst it is true that

:26:43. > :26:47.carbon dioxide is a global warming gas, no doubt, and if we began to

:26:48. > :26:52.emit more carbon dioxide it must have had some effect on the climate,

:26:53. > :26:56.but logically follows, it does not mean to say that it is responsible

:26:57. > :27:00.for the relatively small increase in temperature we have seen ovdr the

:27:01. > :27:06.last 250 years. The honourable gentleman for Aberdeen 's ott of

:27:07. > :27:10.said, I think, that the temperature increase has been about 1 ddgrees.

:27:11. > :27:16.Like many other commentators, he has link that directly to carbon dioxide

:27:17. > :27:21.increases. The temperature hncrease generally agreed upon, is 0.8

:27:22. > :27:26.degrees, but even the IP CC recognise that a significant amount

:27:27. > :27:29.of that is not shoot a man-lade carbon dioxide emissions. The first

:27:30. > :27:34.question that I would put if I were ever a minister in your dep`rtment,

:27:35. > :27:39.in the department, sorry, and I accept that it is probably `n

:27:40. > :27:49.unlikely proposition, is wh`t percentage of that 0.8 degrdes has

:27:50. > :27:51.come about as a result of m`n-made carbon dioxide emissions, and what

:27:52. > :27:54.percentage is due to the natural things we know are there. I

:27:55. > :27:57.mentioned the ice ages and interglacials, but there has been

:27:58. > :28:02.well-documented series of climate changes which have had nothhng to do

:28:03. > :28:06.with CO2 emissions. For exalple we know that 2000 years ago, dtring the

:28:07. > :28:11.times that the Romans ruled Britain, there was what was called a Roman

:28:12. > :28:15.optimum, a warm period, and it was followed by the dark ages when

:28:16. > :28:19.things were cooler. There w`s a medieval warming period durhng the

:28:20. > :28:23.Renaissance, followed by wh`t was commonly referred to and

:28:24. > :28:32.scientifically recognised as a little ice age. That came to an end

:28:33. > :28:34.at around about 1800, coinchdentally the time that we started to

:28:35. > :28:36.industrialise. Another important questions that I have put two

:28:37. > :28:42.experts on many occasions and never had a rational answer, is how much

:28:43. > :28:46.of that 0.8 degrees increasd in temperature is due to the f`ct that

:28:47. > :28:51.the temperature was warning anyway because we were coming out of a

:28:52. > :28:55.particularly cool period, a period when the tens would regularly freeze

:28:56. > :29:00.over so solidly that we could hold ice fairs upon it -- when the River

:29:01. > :29:05.Thames would regularly freeze over. Some of that warming is nattral

:29:06. > :29:08.clearly. If people are still not convinced, we can look at the

:29:09. > :29:13.correlation or lack thereof between carbon dioxide emissions and the

:29:14. > :29:18.temperature increases that have taken place since industrialisation.

:29:19. > :29:23.If it is the case, as some of the more alarmist commentators would

:29:24. > :29:27.have, that this 0.8 degrees increase has occurred directly as a result of

:29:28. > :29:36.CO2 emissions, it would loghcally follow that one could correlate a

:29:37. > :29:39.line between CO2 emissions that have taken place in, say, 1800, `nd

:29:40. > :29:43.temperature increases. If wd look at that graph we will find no such

:29:44. > :29:49.correlation. We will see thdre have been periods over the last 250

:29:50. > :29:53.years, once again, of warming and cooling, regardless of CO2 dmissions

:29:54. > :29:59.that have taken place. In the first part of the 20th century we saw

:30:00. > :30:05.significant warming. From 1842 about 1970, probably a bit later, there

:30:06. > :30:08.was significant cooling which lead people to begin suggesting... The

:30:09. > :30:21.honourable gentleman shakes his head, but a cooling took pl`ce from

:30:22. > :30:24.the 1940s onwards, when I grew up in a 1970s people were worried that the

:30:25. > :30:27.next ice age was coming. From the mid-70s until around 1998 there was

:30:28. > :30:29.a significant amount of warling but from 1998 until now there h`s not

:30:30. > :30:33.been any statistically recognisable warming. People keep a ferrx to the

:30:34. > :30:40.third hottest year on record, whatever it is, but when yot look at

:30:41. > :30:44.the temperature increases they are minute -- people keep referring to

:30:45. > :30:47.the third hottest year on rdcord. Scientists who ask about it will

:30:48. > :30:52.have to admit that the marghn for error within the increases hs much

:30:53. > :30:56.greater than the increases themselves, and the level of

:30:57. > :31:01.increase that we see is perfectly possible to explain away. Wd are not

:31:02. > :31:04.comparing like with like, wd are using slightly different telperature

:31:05. > :31:09.gauges, and the areas that we use them and have moved, some of the

:31:10. > :31:14.areas over a course of years have changed and can be subject to

:31:15. > :31:19.something called the urban Hreland heat effect, or other factors. There

:31:20. > :31:23.has not really been an incrdase since 1998. For all that melbers

:31:24. > :31:28.might shake their heads, I have raised this with the Met Office and

:31:29. > :31:34.a scientist. Scientists refdr to this as the pores, they comd up with

:31:35. > :31:39.numerous explanations, I have heard volcanoes, the heat has gond into

:31:40. > :31:45.the ocean, one professor, in a meeting in this building, stggested

:31:46. > :31:49.that a pause over 16 or 17 xears was statistically insignificant. Which

:31:50. > :31:55.begs the obvious question, hf 1 years temperature is not rising is

:31:56. > :31:58.insignificant, why are 30 or 35 years of temperatures incre`sing

:31:59. > :32:03.slightly so significant that we have to make radical changes to our

:32:04. > :32:08.economy and industry in orddr to tackle it?

:32:09. > :32:11.Of course. Of course, I havd not dismissed the possibility that he

:32:12. > :32:15.might be right and all the meteorological experts in the world

:32:16. > :32:24.simply mistaken on this matter, but would he accept that if his thesis

:32:25. > :32:27.that all is due... There is natural warming here as well as

:32:28. > :32:34.anthropogenic warming, we are in a much worse position than evdn we had

:32:35. > :32:40.thought? And is therefore anything we can do to minimise the

:32:41. > :32:45.anthropogenic causes becomes all the more important, not less so?

:32:46. > :32:49.I don't dismiss the fact, the possibility, of course, that the

:32:50. > :32:53.experts may be right. I havd never actually said they are wrong, I have

:32:54. > :32:57.merely suggested that they ought to be able to answer some fairly basic

:32:58. > :33:01.questions if they expect us as policymakers to go ahead with

:33:02. > :33:05.policies which will be profoundly unpopular with the public and in

:33:06. > :33:08.many cases the NGOs which stpport those policies will not support the

:33:09. > :33:22.consequences something I will come to.

:33:23. > :33:34.Skea there is another issue here which I'm tempted to go into, but

:33:35. > :33:40.I've been asked by the whips to keep it short. In other words, would

:33:41. > :33:48.twice as much... Yes, OK. I'm getting looks all round, but it s

:33:49. > :33:57.simple terms. If X amount of CO has spawned -- has caused why an amount

:33:58. > :34:04.of warming. Mark of course, in nature, things often don't work that

:34:05. > :34:11.way. Let's talk about the P`ris agreement because it talks `bout

:34:12. > :34:16.limiting climate increases to about 2 degrees of what they were,

:34:17. > :34:24.pre-industrial times. Which times? Which times is he talking about

:34:25. > :34:28.Presumably 1800 is about thd base figure, but it goes on for 4 billion

:34:29. > :34:35.years longer than that. We could quite easily go back to the earlier

:34:36. > :34:39.and see 2 degrees short of the temperatures in the medieval warming

:34:40. > :34:51.period! They are around the same temperature as they are now on -

:34:52. > :34:55.during the Roman optimum. Agreed philosopher was writing abott date

:34:56. > :35:00.trees in Greece and how thex could be made to grow but couldn't produce

:35:01. > :35:06.fruit, and intimated that temperatures are the same as they

:35:07. > :35:10.are now in Greece, because they are behaving in the same way th`t they

:35:11. > :35:16.did 2000 years ago. So if wd take that as a preindustrial timds base

:35:17. > :35:27.point, ten a day, we could lerrily put CO2 into the atmosphere before

:35:28. > :35:36.we hit 2 degrees above that period. My honourable friend the or`cle on

:35:37. > :35:41.this. .Ac not agree with me that a low carbon future, with its clean

:35:42. > :35:49.air and low cost is surely sunny to be embraced and sought after anyway?

:35:50. > :35:53.The Honourable Gentleman is making the assumption that carbon dioxide

:35:54. > :35:59.is a pollutant. It is not. Sulphur dioxide is and we've done wonderful

:36:00. > :36:02.things to get rid of it. Carbon dioxide is actually the elixir year

:36:03. > :36:12.of life. It has a very beneficial effect on the ability of farmers to

:36:13. > :36:15.grow crops, so I wouldn't accept the premise of his question that CO is

:36:16. > :36:20.a naturally bad thing. I thhnk we should Kwon -- concentrate on our

:36:21. > :36:32.air quality and environment being good. I do very strongly about the

:36:33. > :36:37.environment. I was a member of the group Surfers Against Sewagd for

:36:38. > :36:41.many years. That is the casd that I want to tear the environment apart.

:36:42. > :36:48.But I'm looking policies th`t could be -- enormously costly in ly area.

:36:49. > :36:56.So I would suggest to ministers that they do the NGOs that call on them

:36:57. > :37:02.to adopt certain policies, do they believe what they say? Becatse the

:37:03. > :37:08.gent-mac made a good comment about nuclear power. I believe it is safe.

:37:09. > :37:10.It's interesting that anyond proposes a nuclear power st`tion

:37:11. > :37:18.anywhere, some of the biggest supporters are the people in the

:37:19. > :37:24.area. In Anglesey, a site is being supported by members of Parliament

:37:25. > :37:34.right across the political spectrum, including Plaid Cymru, but when it

:37:35. > :37:38.comes down to nuclear jobs then they are very enthusiastic. I colmend

:37:39. > :37:43.them for it and they are right to be so, but isn't that contrasts but

:37:44. > :37:47.when people want to put up wind farms, where I know of Liberal

:37:48. > :37:54.Democrat politicians in Walds who will bang the drum for wind farms

:37:55. > :37:58.until it goes up in their own constituency, in -- where they will

:37:59. > :38:03.find reasons for that is not happen. One of the concerns I have hs that

:38:04. > :38:10.green groups will see, and perhaps the honourable member opposhte, that

:38:11. > :38:15.global warming is the greatdst threat to mankind, and then they

:38:16. > :38:19.will oppose suggestions such as a nuclear power station which could

:38:20. > :38:26.resolve some of our energy problems by not creating extra carbon

:38:27. > :38:33.dioxide. That attitudes has been shown by green groups to tidal

:38:34. > :38:38.power. I don't know that -- if that will stand up economically. That it

:38:39. > :38:55.will produce 5% without cre`ting carbon dioxide. Giving way, one

:38:56. > :39:10.word. Sellafield. The gent-lac may wish to discuss that with hhs

:39:11. > :39:16.friends there, from Plaid Cxmru My concern is that not so much that we

:39:17. > :39:21.are adopting renewable energy schemes because I understand the

:39:22. > :39:29.arguments about security and diversity, but if we go too far with

:39:30. > :39:35.this we may find we are adopting systems cost a lot more mondy. But

:39:36. > :39:39.had a lot of e-mails recently complaining about Hinkley Point

:39:40. > :39:46.saying that it costs too much. And that solar power will be chdaper.

:39:47. > :39:53.I'm tended to suggest to thd honourable gentleman that hd should

:39:54. > :40:00.think about cutting the subsidies further. We are paying about a

:40:01. > :40:08.towards offshore wind farms. I get very frustrated when I get d-mails

:40:09. > :40:14.front Friends of the Earth `bout fuel poverty. Because it's going to

:40:15. > :40:22.get worse if we continue to pay more for our electricity, becausd we are

:40:23. > :40:26.adopting schemes that are going to bring strike prices. I can't

:40:27. > :40:31.understand why there is no support for fracking, when it is quhte clear

:40:32. > :40:38.that if we get rid of our coal stations and make gas from what we

:40:39. > :40:43.have in this country, then we can produce fuel and limit CO2

:40:44. > :40:49.emissions. I don't want to be a thorn in the side to the ministers

:40:50. > :40:53.opposite. I understand many of the concerns they have and I hope they

:40:54. > :40:59.will put these questions to experts, and I hope they will remembdr at all

:41:00. > :41:06.times without rising tempers about increased energy prices. Can't these

:41:07. > :41:18.like -- companies like Tata are having to consider closing down

:41:19. > :41:43.I can't resist correcting mx remarks about being the oracle.

:41:44. > :42:01.His comments are being translated... The debate we are having thhs

:42:02. > :42:09.afternoon essentially is not just the question of ratification of the

:42:10. > :42:20.Paris accords, but the consdquences of ratification for the UK, and the

:42:21. > :42:24.ability of the UK to ratify in good faith and good order, on thd basis

:42:25. > :42:28.of what it recognises our commitment it will have to undertake it sells

:42:29. > :42:36.as being a party to that Paris accord. In that context, I think

:42:37. > :42:42.it's important to initially clarify one or two points about the process

:42:43. > :42:52.of ratification which we have, to some extent, already done today but

:42:53. > :42:57.also, review what it is that that ratification in consists of, and

:42:58. > :43:04.indeed, how that relates to a number of issues, such as: The existence of

:43:05. > :43:09.a low-carbon programme which can actually set out what it is that we

:43:10. > :43:15.are committed to. I must sax, from the outset, I would've thought that

:43:16. > :43:19.in that context, it it would've been a good idea, or should have been a

:43:20. > :43:25.good idea, that a low-carbon programme is available to all of us

:43:26. > :43:31.at the same time as a ratifhcation process is being considered, so

:43:32. > :43:35.actually, we have that raft of information in front of us `s far as

:43:36. > :43:46.the processes concerned. I to come back to that in a moment. -, I want

:43:47. > :43:53.to. We are aware that the process is a two-way way, and the parthcular

:43:54. > :44:00.responsibility of the UK now is to get that order in front of the

:44:01. > :44:08.House, the EU treaty converted into an order for our considerathon, and

:44:09. > :44:15.get our bit done. As I menthoned earlier, France's managed to do all

:44:16. > :44:20.that. That is important, not just in terms of getting the business done

:44:21. > :44:25.as far as our country is concerned, but making sure that the EU

:44:26. > :44:32.ratification is in as early and speedy as possible and have is that

:44:33. > :44:39.full process underway when the heavy hitters from the UK coming `nd can

:44:40. > :44:50.be undertaken by the EU. I think it is also important to think `bout and

:44:51. > :44:58.clarify what we are also undertaking in terms of our joint ratifhcation