0:00:23 > 0:00:35Thank you the Secretary of State for Digital culture sport.The
0:00:35 > 0:00:40revelations involving a serious privacy breach involving Facebook is
0:00:40 > 0:00:50very worrying. It was reported that a whistle-blower X explored the data
0:00:50 > 0:00:54of 50 million people globally. In an increasingly digital world, it's
0:00:54 > 0:00:56important that people may have the confidence of their data is
0:00:56 > 0:01:07protected. The regulator is already investigating. The investigation is
0:01:07 > 0:01:12considering how political parties and campaigns, data and out these
0:01:12 > 0:01:19companies, and social media platforms in the UK have used poor
0:01:19 > 0:01:24people's if personal information to target voters. She is looking
0:01:24 > 0:01:29whether Facebook was acquired, and used illegally. -- face but better.
0:01:29 > 0:01:39Notices were issued, it is imperative that when an organisation
0:01:39 > 0:01:45receives an information notice, they must notice in full. We expect all
0:01:45 > 0:01:49organisations involved to co-operate with this investigation in whatever
0:01:49 > 0:01:52way the information Commissioner sees fit. I'm sure the House will
0:01:52 > 0:01:57understand that this only so far we can go up discussing specific
0:01:57 > 0:02:03details of specific cases. But Mr Speaker, the appropriate use of data
0:02:03 > 0:02:07is useful, important for good campaigning. It's as old as
0:02:07 > 0:02:11democracy itself. Indeed we do it in the House every day. But it's
0:02:11 > 0:02:15important that the public is comfortable with how information is
0:02:15 > 0:02:19gathered, used and shared intimate modern political campaigns. It's
0:02:19 > 0:02:22important that the information Commissioner has the enforcement
0:02:22 > 0:02:27powers that she needs. The Bill currently in committee will
0:02:27 > 0:02:32strengthen legislation, and give her tougher powers to make sure
0:02:32 > 0:02:37organisations comply. The Bill gives her powers to levy significant fines
0:02:37 > 0:02:43from malpractice against organisations that block the ICO's
0:02:43 > 0:02:48organisation. -- investigation. This will help control transparency and
0:02:48 > 0:02:53security of data for people and businesses across the country.
0:02:53 > 0:02:57Because of the lessons learned during the investigation into
0:02:57 > 0:03:05difficulties the Commissioner has found in getting appropriate
0:03:05 > 0:03:10organisation -- Hsia has requested stronger enforcement powers. They
0:03:10 > 0:03:14are already in the Bill and she was requesting even more criminal
0:03:14 > 0:03:20sanctions. She has made it clear that in order to deal with complex
0:03:20 > 0:03:23investigations like this, the power to compel testimonies from
0:03:23 > 0:03:27individuals is now needed. We are considering these new proposals and
0:03:27 > 0:03:30I have no doubt the House will consider them as the Bill passes
0:03:30 > 0:03:35through. They took properly used has massive value and social media is a
0:03:35 > 0:03:45good thing. So, we must sent go to do wrong conclusion and block all
0:03:45 > 0:03:49access. We need rules to ensure clarity and fairness. This is what
0:03:49 > 0:03:54the Bill will provide. After all, strong data protection gives
0:03:54 > 0:04:01citizens confidence and that is good for everyone.Damon Collins.I think
0:04:01 > 0:04:10the Secretary of State for his concern. Surveys were conducted with
0:04:10 > 0:04:16Facebook users where he identified 200,000 people who answered his
0:04:16 > 0:04:26surveys and from that he was able to access data and other user profiles.
0:04:26 > 0:04:34The information was still was then sold. He gave evidence to the
0:04:34 > 0:04:45committee, but that data was used in their campaigns. Facebook give this
0:04:45 > 0:04:48data breach for two years but did nothing to target cabbage
0:04:48 > 0:04:57analytical. The only when it was clear that it was going to be
0:04:57 > 0:05:07exposed. First, I asked Will someone be contacting cambered University to
0:05:07 > 0:05:10asked about what he was doing with his team. A strike cambered
0:05:10 > 0:05:20University. There is a larger issue here. That data is used for
0:05:20 > 0:05:24political campaigns. No one ever gave consent that it could be used
0:05:24 > 0:05:27in political campaigns of this way. A lot of people would be shocked
0:05:27 > 0:05:35that their data is used in this way. Not just by a political party but by
0:05:35 > 0:05:43a beta and out these consultancy. Singly -- not simply taking a box on
0:05:43 > 0:05:49Facebook, doesn't sign away your drives. Nowhere does it ask you do
0:05:49 > 0:05:53sign off your rides and it would not be enforceable if the company tried
0:05:53 > 0:06:03to do that. People's rides are still protected. . Many people are
0:06:03 > 0:06:06concerned that shadows shadow companies are being used around
0:06:06 > 0:06:09world. People are raising concerns not just about the way they are
0:06:09 > 0:06:12using data, but the ethics and leadership of the company in all
0:06:12 > 0:06:21apps exhibits lives. Stop -- aspects of his life. I think this incident
0:06:21 > 0:06:27shows that someone needs to have this country than legal authority to
0:06:27 > 0:06:32go behind a curtain, and would've up platforms, see how data are used and
0:06:32 > 0:06:37to make sure that they comply with data protection laws. We need to
0:06:37 > 0:06:45beat confident that they are being enforced con --, conditions are met.
0:06:45 > 0:06:50I am pleased that he has raised that. I know that the committee will
0:06:50 > 0:06:56take note of as we go to report stage of the Bill.Thank you very
0:06:56 > 0:07:04much. Mr Speaker. Out as the paint tribute to the work of the select
0:07:04 > 0:07:09committee. The are doing an incredibly important piece of work
0:07:09 > 0:07:17because of the sensitivities of the impact of this, in terms of its
0:07:17 > 0:07:21political nature, the impact of political campaigning, I think it is
0:07:21 > 0:07:28excellent that a cross party group of MPs leading the group. I pay
0:07:28 > 0:07:32tribute to members on both sides. I do remind them that he did have the
0:07:32 > 0:07:36power of summons if people are not giving them a good in offences. I
0:07:36 > 0:07:40will ensure that all the considerations that he mentioned I
0:07:40 > 0:07:44looked into, he raised the point about consent not be just a tick
0:07:44 > 0:07:49box. This is directly addressed in the data protection built. But
0:07:49 > 0:07:54currently, because of the nature of the very old legislation, in digital
0:07:54 > 0:08:01terms 1998, eat can get away with asking for a box to it taken many
0:08:01 > 0:08:06people do not read the small print. The data protection bill replaces
0:08:06 > 0:08:11this take box approach with a principle -based approach that I
0:08:11 > 0:08:16think the whole House should support. Finally, he asked about the
0:08:16 > 0:08:20point about the powers of the information Commissioner. He is
0:08:20 > 0:08:23absolutely right that we've got to ensure that with this piece of
0:08:23 > 0:08:28legislation, and for the House right now, we've got the power and the
0:08:28 > 0:08:30rice so that the information Commissioner can audit. That is in
0:08:30 > 0:08:37the Bill already. The question is whether it is strong enough. In
0:08:37 > 0:08:40terms of what happens if people choose not to comply with the audit.
0:08:40 > 0:08:47At the moment there is a very serious fine, the question is if,
0:08:47 > 0:08:51should the criminal penalty shoes should be strengthened and it is
0:08:51 > 0:08:57something that is being discussed. Jeni to pay tribute to the
0:08:57 > 0:09:03committee, and also the Guardian newspaper for pursuing this with
0:09:03 > 0:09:07such utter relentless despite the harassment issue has received. If
0:09:07 > 0:09:16these allegations are true, it would provide a direct indictment. The
0:09:16 > 0:09:20governor has allowed the data giant in this country than to be both
0:09:20 > 0:09:25careless and carefree in their misuse of data. If true, 50 million
0:09:25 > 0:09:32data records would have been misused the waive their rights were being
0:09:32 > 0:09:37breached, but also in the way that referendum and elections could I
0:09:37 > 0:09:41become comes could've been affected. Can he confirm that he will bring
0:09:41 > 0:09:48forward those amendments stronger powers the data protection, if he
0:09:48 > 0:09:54does, we will back him on this. But could he also agreed with our
0:09:54 > 0:09:59amendments to set a deadline to modernise e-commerce that treats
0:09:59 > 0:10:05these companies with laws that that date back to before there were even
0:10:05 > 0:10:12born. To make it possible to bring class action when data are breached
0:10:12 > 0:10:16so that these class actions are accessible to people and third, will
0:10:16 > 0:10:22he ensure that he supports our amendment to require disclosure of
0:10:22 > 0:10:28funding for dark, social ads which we know, can influence elections and
0:10:28 > 0:10:35indeed, elections. The point you has to consider, is whether can bridge
0:10:35 > 0:10:43analytical can still have proper for people to hold directorship. Will
0:10:43 > 0:10:50this be investigated, with the full weight of company's... If these
0:10:50 > 0:10:58people need to be struck off, they are struck off for good.I will add
0:10:58 > 0:11:02my praise to the Guardian journalists who have done the work
0:11:02 > 0:11:07that we saw published this weekend. I agree with the right honourable
0:11:07 > 0:11:12member with many of the questions he raises. I think this is an area when
0:11:12 > 0:11:16it is best to proceed with cross party consensus that we can in that
0:11:16 > 0:11:20area. I am not sure about the dragging our feet argument, given
0:11:20 > 0:11:25that the date of breach government is being brought forward by this
0:11:25 > 0:11:31government and GDP are also was also, the European Union was also
0:11:31 > 0:11:34back very strong that this government. You're Artie taking
0:11:34 > 0:11:42action in order to put write things that were have been, needed to be
0:11:42 > 0:11:48strengthened because of the development of technology. Human
0:11:48 > 0:11:53mentions -- admonitions as with e-commerce directors. It isn't
0:11:53 > 0:11:56really a question of updating e-commerce directors. It's a
0:11:56 > 0:12:00question of what would putting in its place. We will be leaving the
0:12:00 > 0:12:03single digital market and we'll got a mention to get an opportunity
0:12:03 > 0:12:06would get back that piece of legislation right in the modern age,
0:12:06 > 0:12:12to make sure we can support growth and to use of modern technology. But
0:12:12 > 0:12:17also do so in a way that
0:12:17 > 0:12:23He has some of the directorship of the directors of Cambridge and Oka.
0:12:23 > 0:12:29Of course, we will ensure that people are operating within the law
0:12:29 > 0:12:36says there is a question, that is for different departments but 1am
0:12:36 > 0:12:46happy to talk to my Ministers about. -- I am happy.I'm sure my right
0:12:46 > 0:12:51honourable friend will agree that the news that has come through is
0:12:51 > 0:12:56one that should cause us all very great concern is that the difficulty
0:12:56 > 0:13:00that it's been a parable for a long time that the attaining of data, the
0:13:00 > 0:13:04use that can be made of it whether for commercial or political
0:13:04 > 0:13:12purposes, is a gold mine for those who wish to breach the law and the
0:13:12 > 0:13:17sanctions that can be visited on those who do this are entirely
0:13:17 > 0:13:21inadequate. I'm perfectly aware that the Government is amending the
0:13:21 > 0:13:24legislation but I have to say to my right honourable friend, I don't
0:13:24 > 0:13:27think they lost that we are nothing in terms of the penalties on those
0:13:27 > 0:13:32who behave in this fashion are anything like Joe and out. They
0:13:32 > 0:13:36financial incentives are far too great to the law. The penalties
0:13:36 > 0:13:40proportionately insufficient and ultimately we will have to be much
0:13:40 > 0:13:45tougher and for going to stop this sort of behaviour.I have some
0:13:45 > 0:13:50sympathy with the argument that he makes. 4% of global turnover as a
0:13:50 > 0:13:56find is a very significant find. For an organisation for whom the data
0:13:56 > 0:14:01processing is openly part of a broader business, where the data
0:14:01 > 0:14:08processing in this is the whole business and could be regarded as
0:14:08 > 0:14:13less proportionate. Therefore, we are considering the information
0:14:13 > 0:14:23commissioners request. It isn't just about the 4% global turnover. There
0:14:23 > 0:14:29is already a coma offence and caused 145 of the Bill. Which carries the
0:14:29 > 0:14:33highest possible fines and criminal records for providing false
0:14:33 > 0:14:37information. So there are many are stronger sanctions for specific
0:14:37 > 0:14:44actions, but the point that he makes is one the information Commissioner
0:14:44 > 0:14:50herself has made and therefore one that I think is worth listening to.
0:14:50 > 0:14:55I think why most people across the house I was shocked to read the
0:14:55 > 0:14:58devolution and the observer. This story is more evidence that
0:14:58 > 0:15:01advertising market is growing exponentially and becoming more and
0:15:01 > 0:15:12more difficult to police. Russian authorities putting ads... It is
0:15:12 > 0:15:15gone and left unregulated in the market will keep going into this
0:15:15 > 0:15:21section. Or plans of the Government has to take this required action and
0:15:21 > 0:15:27of course, Facebook should be brought back to the select committee
0:15:27 > 0:15:39to explained previous evidence which is alleged passably false. Lastly,
0:15:39 > 0:15:42there have been reports that the Conservative Party have been talked
0:15:42 > 0:15:47with for some time, how long has it been in talks and within the party
0:15:47 > 0:15:52know about it deals with Facebook? Does a government plan to hold an
0:15:52 > 0:15:56inquiry by neither plan to do so, is she worried about conflict of
0:15:56 > 0:15:59interest given the Conservative Party plans to use them for their
0:15:59 > 0:16:08own benefit?I answered the first part of his questions and I probably
0:16:08 > 0:16:13agree with him that this is a serious and boring incident. We need
0:16:13 > 0:16:17to make sure the Bill that is currently before the House puts in
0:16:17 > 0:16:23the powers to make that we've got the enforcement powers behind the
0:16:23 > 0:16:31required an ability to audit and the commission it will get from this the
0:16:31 > 0:16:33spell. With this threat to the question about the Conservative
0:16:33 > 0:16:37Party, as far as I understand, they have no such dealings with Cambridge
0:16:37 > 0:16:44Analytica and therefore the following the conflict arises. -- no
0:16:44 > 0:16:50conflict.I have been the victim of false news stories, being Michael
0:16:50 > 0:16:54targeted under Facebook accounts in my constituency to deliberately
0:16:54 > 0:17:00undermine me and cause hate. Can I think the Minister for prioritising
0:17:00 > 0:17:01the data protection bill delivering the data protection regulations and
0:17:01 > 0:17:06to make sure the law is clear and enforceable. How does he intend to
0:17:06 > 0:17:15work with governments and other countries to make sure there is no
0:17:15 > 0:17:25wild West for evil use when it comes to personal data?I have said that
0:17:25 > 0:17:33the wild West in terms of the digital companies who flout rules
0:17:33 > 0:17:37and think the best thing to do is to move fast and pray things without
0:17:37 > 0:17:40respect for the impact it has on democracy and society, that wild
0:17:40 > 0:17:46West is over. The data protection bill as part of a suite of actions
0:17:46 > 0:17:50that we are taking in order to make sure that we have the freedoms that
0:17:50 > 0:17:55we cherish on a line but not the freedom to harm others. There are
0:17:55 > 0:18:00many different areas in which this impacts, brought together under our
0:18:00 > 0:18:04digital charter and getting the roles right in this space is a very
0:18:04 > 0:18:11important part of that response. Also I want to pay tribute to the
0:18:11 > 0:18:16work of the select committee and to the Guardian newspaper as well.
0:18:16 > 0:18:20Doctor was able to present information to Cambridge and a
0:18:20 > 0:18:25little gut and amend to my also be aware that Doctor Kogan also had a
0:18:25 > 0:18:29teaching post and grants from social media research from a Russian
0:18:29 > 0:18:32university. -- information to Cambridge Analytica. And that
0:18:32 > 0:18:38Cambridge Analytica did research for a firm that is currently on the US
0:18:38 > 0:18:41sanctioned list. Ask the Secretary of State himself investigated the
0:18:41 > 0:18:45veracity of these reports? And has either high or a Home Office
0:18:45 > 0:18:49Minister been attached directly with the Facebook and asked him what for
0:18:49 > 0:18:54data breach might have taken place and to ask him to investigate and if
0:18:54 > 0:18:59they will not provide that information, does he agree with the
0:18:59 > 0:19:02colic request that power should be taken to ensure that we can get that
0:19:02 > 0:19:08information? -- agree with the college.We have any contact with
0:19:08 > 0:19:13Facebook and this is very early stages in terms of the specific
0:19:13 > 0:19:17allegations made over the weekend, but this is part of a longer
0:19:17 > 0:19:24dialogue about making sure Facebook treats these problems with the
0:19:24 > 0:19:30seriousness that they deserve. The focus today is on Facebook, but in
0:19:30 > 0:19:33the autumn would came to the house to talk about Huber's attitude to
0:19:33 > 0:19:42data breaches and I don't want to have to come to the house to talk
0:19:42 > 0:19:45about data breaches again and again from other big data companies. That
0:19:45 > 0:19:52is why we need the law updated and to get in place as soon as possible.
0:19:52 > 0:19:57Mr Speaker, if evidence emerges that any organisation issues people data
0:19:57 > 0:20:00to interfere in a UK election or referendum, by the information
0:20:00 > 0:20:04commission, the select committee work, the Guardian work, or
0:20:04 > 0:20:09whatever, with the Minister guarantee that a full public inquiry
0:20:09 > 0:20:11will be established to find out what happened and what the implications
0:20:11 > 0:20:19were?There is no evidence yet of a successful interference and a UK
0:20:19 > 0:20:34election or referendum. We remain vigilant.Given the important role
0:20:34 > 0:20:38that Cambridge Analytica did play in the EU referendum, given the Lex
0:20:38 > 0:20:43made both by the observer's fantastic journalists and others,
0:20:43 > 0:20:48with the Kremlin wider campaign of undermining and interfering in our
0:20:48 > 0:20:52America and our policies, will he assure the house the holiday
0:20:52 > 0:20:55inquiries and investigations that we have been discussing here today are
0:20:55 > 0:20:58getting the full cooperation and support of the British intelligence
0:20:58 > 0:21:05and security services in their work? Yes.Thank you Mrs. Baker. The
0:21:05 > 0:21:09Secretary of State will not have long called for a comprehensive
0:21:09 > 0:21:14forward-looking review of data. -- Mr Speaker. So that our citizens can
0:21:14 > 0:21:18have the data rice and deserve. Data protection bill does not do that, it
0:21:18 > 0:21:22doesn't define property rights and data, it doesn't consider market
0:21:22 > 0:21:26power in data or algorithm abuse. A slick is on the wrong side of
0:21:26 > 0:21:28history when it comes to this and share prices is crashing as a
0:21:28 > 0:21:37result. Will he take action or will he go back down at the last dinosaur
0:21:37 > 0:21:43and an age of data ethics? -- Facebook is on the wrong side of
0:21:43 > 0:21:47history.Are few governments doing more to get the roles write in this
0:21:47 > 0:21:54space. The data protection bill is a full suite of data protection
0:21:54 > 0:21:58legislation, yes including GDP are from European law, will more broadly
0:21:58 > 0:22:04than that, in order to give people the power over their own data and
0:22:04 > 0:22:10consent over how it is used. What I would recommend that she read the
0:22:10 > 0:22:16Bill and gets on board and as she has specific improvements, as we
0:22:16 > 0:22:18have throughout the passage of the spell, we are willing to consider
0:22:18 > 0:22:23and listen to them, like the proposals made by the information
0:22:23 > 0:22:31Commissioner. We want to make sure we get this legislation right.In
0:22:31 > 0:22:36the years before the 2008 crash, we were told that people who were
0:22:36 > 0:22:40running the City of London with the masses of the universe at the and
0:22:40 > 0:22:45waxing the same sort of arrogance from the companies like Facebook. --
0:22:45 > 0:22:48waxing the same soda arrogance. The way they are using data and only the
0:22:48 > 0:22:52research and how to use is completely unregulated. Other areas
0:22:52 > 0:22:56of research that I think people's life are highly regulated. I don't
0:22:56 > 0:23:01think the data protection bill goes far enough in protecting people's
0:23:01 > 0:23:07data and the research that goes to manipulating it.I ask him to
0:23:07 > 0:23:11imagine that as the end of his speech, the gentlemen, there was a
0:23:11 > 0:23:20question mark.LAUGHTER I agree with the premisethe question is this
0:23:20 > 0:23:26week it, I do agree with him that the attitude of the social media
0:23:26 > 0:23:31giants has been that a government should get out of the way because
0:23:31 > 0:23:36were doing things differently and better. It may be a good thing for
0:23:36 > 0:23:4095% of us that were connected better and can use social media and also
0:23:40 > 0:23:45ways that many people in this House do, but there are serious risks and
0:23:45 > 0:23:48downsides as well they need to be addressed properly and appropriately
0:23:48 > 0:23:57and best are addressed to legislation where necessary and the
0:23:57 > 0:24:05parallels are something that I think is telling.Not simply a matter of
0:24:05 > 0:24:07Cambridge Analytica using data and handed over by social media
0:24:07 > 0:24:10provider, does matter of face with behaving as though its users will
0:24:10 > 0:24:16raw materials to exploited. -- it is a matter of Facebook behaving as
0:24:16 > 0:24:22though it's users will raw material. Now the time to get providers to
0:24:22 > 0:24:29adhere to a code of conduct.Indeed. A compulsory code of conduct in some
0:24:29 > 0:24:33areas is in the Bill. Especially in terms with respect to the treatment
0:24:33 > 0:24:40of children. We have a statutory code of conduct and the Digital
0:24:40 > 0:24:44economy act that was passed last year, but this whole ever you is one
0:24:44 > 0:24:50where we have to make sure the liberal values we support the
0:24:50 > 0:24:54freedom but not the freedom to harm others, these liberal values that we
0:24:54 > 0:25:02apply to legislation to many other parts of our lives are brought to
0:25:02 > 0:25:04bear on the online world as well. That is what I mean when I say the
0:25:04 > 0:25:12wild West is over.On the Bill committee for the Bill lastly, the
0:25:12 > 0:25:14Government rejected opposition amendments agape will affect to the
0:25:14 > 0:25:20European that consumer groups can bring cause actions on behalf of our
0:25:20 > 0:25:23global consumers will be subject to a data breach. The Government
0:25:23 > 0:25:27ignored this and put in a memo don't think it was on a constant basis.
0:25:27 > 0:25:30Given a revelation from Cambridge Analytica and the fact that none of
0:25:30 > 0:25:33us know what that were included in the 50 billion Facebook profiles,
0:25:33 > 0:25:36with the Government reconsider its position and moved to an opt out
0:25:36 > 0:25:42basis in line with European law?The European Union will offer Austin or
0:25:42 > 0:25:48opt out. This whole bill is about strengthening people's consent and
0:25:48 > 0:25:54being able to say that yuppie couple to forward as a legal action without
0:25:54 > 0:25:59your consent unless you opt out. -- that you can take forward. That is
0:25:59 > 0:26:02against the spirit of the rest of the Bill. Nevertheless, we have
0:26:02 > 0:26:07listened to the debate and the Other Place and in here, and we have said
0:26:07 > 0:26:11that within 20 months of the Bill, and the force, we will review how
0:26:11 > 0:26:14the opt in system is working because we want this to be based on the
0:26:14 > 0:26:24evidence.
0:26:24 > 0:26:28citizens a perfect storm is putting out democracy in peril.And he urged
0:26:28 > 0:26:35for urgent political staffs. Will the Secretary of State now Athabasca
0:26:35 > 0:26:39Beckel is a priority?The question asked is a priority that we are
0:26:39 > 0:26:47considering and will have answers. Andy Wigmore who was director of
0:26:47 > 0:26:59communications for leaves Doctor EU. Has described what happened without
0:26:59 > 0:27:09cabbage analytic that, are biggest weapon in the campaign. Not a penny
0:27:09 > 0:27:14and the donations was reported to the commission. An investigation was
0:27:14 > 0:27:20launched and I'm pleased. But there's if it turns out that it was
0:27:20 > 0:27:25flagrant breach of of our electoral rude it would put a major question
0:27:25 > 0:27:33mark over the referendum result? -- rules.We haven't seen any evidence
0:27:33 > 0:27:39of any of this that cause of the question the impact of the electoral
0:27:39 > 0:27:42process whether it is an election or referendum. We will make the let the
0:27:42 > 0:27:49investigation take its course.The difficulty Mr Speaker, as that
0:27:49 > 0:27:53Facebook holds all the evidence and we can't have access to it. We know
0:27:53 > 0:28:00that Facebook approach probably everyone in this House before the
0:28:00 > 0:28:06last general election saying that he wanted to help us win our seats.
0:28:06 > 0:28:10Will he join with those of us who are very concerned about this issue
0:28:10 > 0:28:16to ask Facebook to come clean about all the information that they have,
0:28:16 > 0:28:23where the got it from and how the used it?There are increased powers
0:28:23 > 0:28:29of transparency in the Bill. Most importantly, the Bill has in it the
0:28:29 > 0:28:32power for the information Commissioner to audit. And
0:28:32 > 0:28:37therefore, to be able to demand information in order to be able to
0:28:37 > 0:28:40undertake an investigation like that. And making sure that this bill
0:28:40 > 0:28:47gets onto the statue book is the single best way that we can make
0:28:47 > 0:28:53progress in stopping flagrant breaches in the future.People
0:28:53 > 0:28:57across the nations using Facebook will be feeling the trade by these
0:28:57 > 0:29:00revelations. You will field that investigation must be held and
0:29:00 > 0:29:05lawbreakers brought to account. But given the minister's assurance and
0:29:05 > 0:29:11Tory party involvement, will he guarantee that everyone involved
0:29:11 > 0:29:18with can bridge analytical will be investigated transparently?My
0:29:18 > 0:29:21instinct is absolutely yes but of course that is a matter for the
0:29:21 > 0:29:26information Commissioner be and rightly, because she's independent
0:29:26 > 0:29:33of political parties. Of course, the final answer is hers but you can see
0:29:33 > 0:29:42what my instincts lie.It's becoming clear we have had a lot of
0:29:42 > 0:29:53half-truths and mistruths, the impact on elections and referenda in
0:29:53 > 0:29:56this country is becoming clear, we can't prove it yet but it is
0:29:56 > 0:30:00becoming clear, the data companies are not giving us evidence on what
0:30:00 > 0:30:06he do with the information and are not coming clean with how to use it.
0:30:06 > 0:30:10What is the Secretary of State to ensure that British people have
0:30:10 > 0:30:14confidence that their information is being used within the law, and that
0:30:14 > 0:30:21our elections are absolutely fair and transparent and well reported?I
0:30:21 > 0:30:24agree with her very strongly on the premise of her question. The first
0:30:24 > 0:30:29thing we will do is listen very carefully to the report of the
0:30:29 > 0:30:35select committee, which is doing an excellent work in this area, and we
0:30:35 > 0:30:39insist that all companies comply properly with the select committee,
0:30:39 > 0:30:44and I think the select committee has got plenty more work to do as we
0:30:44 > 0:30:49have just discovered. And we will not rest until we put this right
0:30:49 > 0:30:58because frankly, the quality of our liberal democracy that we live and
0:30:58 > 0:30:59depends on having a high-quality political discourse and that means
0:30:59 > 0:31:06that making sure that online, as well is off, and have robust
0:31:06 > 0:31:09exchanges but exchanges that are based on objective truth and
0:31:09 > 0:31:16reasonableness.These allegations involving Facebook and uncovered by
0:31:16 > 0:31:25brave journalist, can the Minister ensure the House that he will be
0:31:25 > 0:31:28calling all major companies to his office asking if they have been
0:31:28 > 0:31:31involved in any of those breaches and if they will come clean, so that
0:31:31 > 0:31:36we can be confident on how data as being protective.I think he would
0:31:36 > 0:31:44be very sensible of the dead.The Minister spoke of our important
0:31:44 > 0:31:50democratic, liberal values. Could he said he is aware of Facebook's
0:31:50 > 0:32:03attempts to block broadcast, of the expose...Of all the different
0:32:03 > 0:32:08things that have surprised me insert shocked me in this revelation, the
0:32:08 > 0:32:14decision by Facebook to take down the Facebook account and also the
0:32:14 > 0:32:18removal of the what's up account at Instagram account of the
0:32:18 > 0:32:27whistle-blower, was the most surprising. Because it doesn't, I
0:32:27 > 0:32:33thought it was outrageous. I thought it was outrageous and I won't tell
0:32:33 > 0:32:36you why. Because Facebook has got some serious questions answered
0:32:36 > 0:32:40here. They will tell their side of the store but have some serious
0:32:40 > 0:32:44questions answered. And answer it by blocking an account, when in the
0:32:44 > 0:32:52same time we know this House we don't act fast enough enough to
0:32:52 > 0:32:56block some outrageous obviously outrageous accounts. While this
0:32:56 > 0:32:59showed us that when they want to, they can block an account