04/02/2013

:00:03. > :00:06.Hello! Tonight, Inside Out is at Hello! Tonight, Inside Out is at

:00:06. > :00:07.Ambergate in Derbyshire. Ambergate in Derbyshire.

:00:07. > :00:08.Ambergate in Derbyshire. Ambergate in Derbyshire.

:00:08. > :00:09.Coming up in the next half hour... Coming up in the next half hour...

:00:09. > :00:10.Coming up in the next half hour... Local air ambulance services like

:00:10. > :00:11.Local air ambulance services like Local air ambulance services like

:00:11. > :00:12.Local air ambulance services like this could be under threat from a

:00:12. > :00:16.this could be under threat from a new national children's air

:00:16. > :00:17.ambulance service. ambulance service.

:00:17. > :00:18.ambulance service. If funds drop for local air

:00:18. > :00:22.If funds drop for local air If funds drop for local air

:00:22. > :00:23.ambulances, it could curtail their ambulances, it could curtail their

:00:23. > :00:24.ambulances, it could curtail their ambulances, it could curtail their

:00:24. > :00:26.flying. People could die if the air flying. People could die if the air

:00:26. > :00:27.ambulance is not flying. ambulance is not flying.

:00:27. > :00:28.ambulance is not flying. ambulance is not flying.

:00:28. > :00:29.Out of work? Then, head outdoors - Out of work? Then, head outdoors -

:00:29. > :00:31.Out of work? Then, head outdoors - a 24-hour challenge for the long-

:00:31. > :00:32.term unemployed. term unemployed.

:00:32. > :00:33.term unemployed. Tastes like something you would

:00:33. > :00:34.Tastes like something you would Tastes like something you would

:00:34. > :00:36.Tastes like something you would Tastes like something you would

:00:36. > :00:37.pick off a tree, if you were in the woods.

:00:37. > :00:38.woods. woods.

:00:38. > :00:39.And demolish the high-rise flats, And demolish the high-rise flats,

:00:39. > :00:49.And demolish the high-rise flats, but can the community spirit

:00:49. > :01:00.

:01:00. > :01:01.I'm Marie Ashby and this is Inside I'm Marie Ashby and this is Inside

:01:01. > :01:02.Out East Midlands. Out East Midlands.

:01:02. > :01:02.Out East Midlands. Out East Midlands.

:01:02. > :01:03.In our first film tonight, we are In our first film tonight, we are

:01:03. > :01:04.In our first film tonight, we are looking into a charity promising to

:01:04. > :01:05.looking into a charity promising to looking into a charity promising to

:01:05. > :01:06.save lives. The Children's Air save lives. The Children's Air

:01:06. > :01:07.save lives. The Children's Air save lives. The Children's Air

:01:07. > :01:08.Ambulance was set up six years ago Ambulance was set up six years ago

:01:08. > :01:09.Ambulance was set up six years ago Ambulance was set up six years ago

:01:09. > :01:10.but, as yet, has not managed to fly but, as yet, has not managed to fly

:01:10. > :01:11.a single child anywhere. a single child anywhere.

:01:11. > :01:12.a single child anywhere. As Matthew Hill has been finding

:01:12. > :01:13.As Matthew Hill has been finding As Matthew Hill has been finding

:01:13. > :01:14.out, the charity has sparked an out, the charity has sparked an

:01:14. > :01:19.out, the charity has sparked an almighty row among existing air

:01:19. > :01:20.ambulance services. ambulance services.

:01:20. > :01:23.ambulance services. ambulance services.

:01:23. > :01:24.They are called the angels of the They are called the angels of the

:01:24. > :01:28.They are called the angels of the They are called the angels of the

:01:28. > :01:29.They are called the angels of the sky. And it is not hard to see why.

:01:29. > :01:30.sky. And it is not hard to see why. sky. And it is not hard to see why.

:01:30. > :01:32.Air ambulances like this one are Air ambulances like this one are

:01:32. > :01:32.run by charities. run by charities.

:01:33. > :01:34.run by charities. And, as charities, they depend

:01:34. > :01:37.And, as charities, they depend And, as charities, they depend

:01:37. > :01:38.entirely on donations to save lives. entirely on donations to save lives.

:01:38. > :01:40.entirely on donations to save lives. Each region has its own air

:01:40. > :01:41.Each region has its own air ambulance service. They are

:01:41. > :01:44.ambulance service. They are ambulance service. They are

:01:44. > :01:45.distinct and separate from each other.

:01:45. > :01:46.other. other.

:01:46. > :01:46.There are 16 different services There are 16 different services

:01:46. > :01:49.There are 16 different services covering their own distinct parts

:01:49. > :01:50.covering their own distinct parts covering their own distinct parts

:01:50. > :01:51.covering their own distinct parts of the country. Each of these air

:01:51. > :01:51.of the country. Each of these air of the country. Each of these air

:01:51. > :01:56.ambulance services raises money in ambulance services raises money in

:01:56. > :01:57.their own patch. their own patch.

:01:57. > :01:58.their own patch. their own patch.

:01:58. > :01:59.But now there is a charity that But now there is a charity that

:01:59. > :02:00.But now there is a charity that But now there is a charity that

:02:00. > :02:00.says it wants to start a new says it wants to start a new

:02:00. > :02:01.says it wants to start a new service - a national helicopter

:02:01. > :02:02.service - a national helicopter dedicated to transporting sick

:02:02. > :02:03.dedicated to transporting sick children between hospitals.

:02:03. > :02:04.children between hospitals. children between hospitals.

:02:04. > :02:05.children between hospitals. It is not playing by the same

:02:05. > :02:08.It is not playing by the same unwritten fundraising rules as

:02:08. > :02:09.everyone else. everyone else.

:02:09. > :02:09.everyone else. everyone else.

:02:09. > :02:19.And there are fears it could impact And there are fears it could impact

:02:19. > :02:21.

:02:21. > :02:23.And there are fears it could impact on existing air ambulance services.

:02:23. > :02:29.on existing air ambulance services. on existing air ambulance services.

:02:29. > :02:30.If funds are curtailed, people could dive.

:02:30. > :02:30.could dive. could dive.

:02:30. > :02:31.This new children's service has This new children's service has

:02:31. > :02:32.This new children's service has This new children's service has

:02:32. > :02:33.cost nearly �2 million and, so far, cost nearly �2 million and, so far,

:02:33. > :02:34.cost nearly �2 million and, so far, not a single child has been

:02:34. > :02:35.transported. transported.

:02:35. > :02:36.transported. There are questions over its

:02:36. > :02:36.There are questions over its There are questions over its

:02:36. > :02:37.motives and how it is spending donations.

:02:38. > :02:38.donations. donations.

:02:38. > :02:39.But its backers believe in its future.

:02:39. > :02:40.future. future.

:02:40. > :02:41.future. If the public get behind this, then

:02:41. > :02:43.If the public get behind this, then If the public get behind this, then

:02:43. > :02:44.it is worth every penny. it is worth every penny.

:02:44. > :02:44.it is worth every penny. But how realistic is their vision

:02:45. > :02:45.But how realistic is their vision But how realistic is their vision

:02:45. > :02:46.to create a national children's helicopter service?

:02:46. > :02:47.helicopter service? helicopter service?

:02:47. > :02:57.helicopter service? And what cost will it have on our

:02:57. > :03:02.

:03:02. > :03:03.And what cost will it have on our The crew of the Lincolnshire and

:03:03. > :03:04.The crew of the Lincolnshire and Nottinghamshire Air Ambulance are

:03:04. > :03:05.Nottinghamshire Air Ambulance are Nottinghamshire Air Ambulance are

:03:05. > :03:05.on their way to an accident. on their way to an accident.

:03:05. > :03:07.on their way to an accident. This air ambulance flies around

:03:07. > :03:08.This air ambulance flies around 1,000 missions a year.

:03:08. > :03:09.1,000 missions a year. 1,000 missions a year.

:03:09. > :03:10.It would not be possible, without It would not be possible, without

:03:10. > :03:11.It would not be possible, without money collected at places like this

:03:11. > :03:13.money collected at places like this money collected at places like this

:03:13. > :03:14.shop, at Bracebridge Heath in Lincolnshire.

:03:14. > :03:15.Lincolnshire. Lincolnshire.

:03:15. > :03:17.Lincolnshire. There are all sorts of ways that we

:03:17. > :03:18.There are all sorts of ways that we raise this money.

:03:18. > :03:20.raise this money. raise this money.

:03:20. > :03:20.Basically, we have got charity Basically, we have got charity

:03:20. > :03:23.Basically, we have got charity shops. We collect clothes and

:03:23. > :03:23.shops. We collect clothes and shops. We collect clothes and

:03:23. > :03:28.recycle those clothes. We have recycle those clothes. We have

:03:28. > :03:29.recycle those clothes. We have donations from the general public.

:03:29. > :03:30.donations from the general public. donations from the general public.

:03:30. > :03:30.donations from the general public. What we do not do is fundraise

:03:30. > :03:31.What we do not do is fundraise What we do not do is fundraise

:03:31. > :03:32.outside of our own area, because outside of our own area, because

:03:32. > :03:34.outside of our own area, because outside of our own area, because

:03:34. > :03:35.that is not fair on the other air ambulances.

:03:35. > :03:36.ambulances. ambulances.

:03:36. > :03:37.Peter is concerned that principle Peter is concerned that principle

:03:37. > :03:37.Peter is concerned that principle is not being reciprocated by

:03:38. > :03:38.is not being reciprocated by is not being reciprocated by

:03:38. > :03:45.another air ambulance now raising another air ambulance now raising

:03:45. > :03:46.money in Nottinghamshire. money in Nottinghamshire.

:03:46. > :03:47.money in Nottinghamshire. These bags, charity clothing bags

:03:47. > :03:48.These bags, charity clothing bags have been flooded throughout

:03:48. > :03:48.have been flooded throughout Nottinghamshire and Lincolnshire

:03:49. > :03:49.Nottinghamshire and Lincolnshire Nottinghamshire and Lincolnshire

:03:50. > :03:50.and bring a lot of confusion and bring a lot of confusion

:03:50. > :03:56.and bring a lot of confusion amongst the donors we currently

:03:56. > :03:56.have. have.

:03:57. > :03:57.have. have.

:03:58. > :03:58.You get a bag like that, it is You get a bag like that, it is

:03:58. > :03:59.You get a bag like that, it is yellow like our helicopter and

:03:59. > :04:01.yellow like our helicopter and yellow like our helicopter and

:04:01. > :04:02.implies it is a national air ambulance service.

:04:02. > :04:03.ambulance service. ambulance service.

:04:03. > :04:04.Whereas, of course, we are the Whereas, of course, we are the

:04:05. > :04:07.local air ambulance providing local air ambulance providing

:04:07. > :04:08.service for Lincolnshire and Nottinghamshire.

:04:08. > :04:09.Nottinghamshire. Nottinghamshire.

:04:09. > :04:10.Despite its claims, the charity Despite its claims, the charity

:04:10. > :04:11.Despite its claims, the charity Despite its claims, the charity

:04:11. > :04:14.that owns these bags is not yet that owns these bags is not yet

:04:14. > :04:15.saving lives nationwide. saving lives nationwide.

:04:15. > :04:16.It actually operates the It actually operates the

:04:16. > :04:17.Warwickshire and Northamptonshire Warwickshire and Northamptonshire

:04:17. > :04:21.and the Derbyshire, Leicestershire and the Derbyshire, Leicestershire

:04:21. > :04:22.and Rutland air ambulances. and Rutland air ambulances.

:04:22. > :04:23.and Rutland air ambulances. and Rutland air ambulances.

:04:23. > :04:24.But it now wants to start a new But it now wants to start a new

:04:24. > :04:27.national service dedicated to national service dedicated to

:04:27. > :04:28.transferring children between hospitals.

:04:28. > :04:28.hospitals. hospitals.

:04:29. > :04:29.hospitals. They plan to offer this new service

:04:29. > :04:36.They plan to offer this new service They plan to offer this new service

:04:36. > :04:46.by using one helicopter to cover by using one helicopter to cover

:04:46. > :04:47.

:04:47. > :04:48.the entire country. the entire country.

:04:48. > :04:49.the entire country. We airlift many children every year

:04:49. > :04:50.We airlift many children every year We airlift many children every year

:04:50. > :04:51.We airlift many children every year in this air ambulance and I have no

:04:51. > :04:52.in this air ambulance and I have no in this air ambulance and I have no

:04:52. > :04:52.doubt that there is a requirement doubt that there is a requirement

:04:53. > :04:54.doubt that there is a requirement for some sort of paediatric

:04:54. > :04:54.for some sort of paediatric for some sort of paediatric

:04:54. > :04:55.transfer service for seriously ill children.

:04:55. > :04:56.children. children.

:04:56. > :04:57.The current method of transferring The current method of transferring

:04:57. > :04:58.The current method of transferring sick children around the UK is

:04:58. > :04:59.sick children around the UK is sick children around the UK is

:04:59. > :05:00.quite complex and there are many quite complex and there are many

:05:00. > :05:01.quite complex and there are many different ways of doing it.

:05:01. > :05:01.different ways of doing it. different ways of doing it.

:05:01. > :05:02.different ways of doing it. I am not sure having a helicopter

:05:02. > :05:03.I am not sure having a helicopter I am not sure having a helicopter

:05:03. > :05:04.air ambulance, based at Coventry, air ambulance, based at Coventry,

:05:04. > :05:05.air ambulance, based at Coventry, providing a service for the whole

:05:05. > :05:06.providing a service for the whole providing a service for the whole

:05:06. > :05:07.providing a service for the whole of the UK is the best and most

:05:07. > :05:11.of the UK is the best and most of the UK is the best and most

:05:11. > :05:12.appropriate way of doing that. appropriate way of doing that.

:05:12. > :05:13.appropriate way of doing that. appropriate way of doing that.

:05:13. > :05:14.Peter is not the only person to Peter is not the only person to

:05:14. > :05:15.Peter is not the only person to have concerns. We have spoken to

:05:15. > :05:16.have concerns. We have spoken to several former volunteers and

:05:16. > :05:17.several former volunteers and several former volunteers and

:05:17. > :05:18.employees of the charity. Two of employees of the charity. Two of

:05:18. > :05:19.employees of the charity. Two of them left because they did not

:05:19. > :05:20.them left because they did not them left because they did not

:05:20. > :05:21.them left because they did not agree with what it was doing and

:05:21. > :05:22.agree with what it was doing and agree with what it was doing and

:05:22. > :05:23.the way it was spending donations. the way it was spending donations.

:05:23. > :05:23.the way it was spending donations. the way it was spending donations.

:05:24. > :05:24.Barbara Parish is one of them. She Barbara Parish is one of them. She

:05:25. > :05:25.Barbara Parish is one of them. She used to work as a fund-raising

:05:26. > :05:26.manager there. manager there.

:05:27. > :05:28.Why did you leave? Why did you leave?

:05:28. > :05:29.Why did you leave? Because I was really very, very

:05:29. > :05:29.Because I was really very, very Because I was really very, very

:05:29. > :05:30.Because I was really very, very unhappy with the way in which the

:05:30. > :05:31.unhappy with the way in which the charity was moving.

:05:31. > :05:32.charity was moving. charity was moving.

:05:32. > :05:35.It was no longer a charity. It was no longer a charity.

:05:35. > :05:36.It was no longer a charity. It had become a hard-nosed business.

:05:36. > :05:37.It had become a hard-nosed business. It had become a hard-nosed business.

:05:37. > :05:38.You saw the development of officers, You saw the development of officers,

:05:38. > :05:39.You saw the development of officers, the recruitment of more and more

:05:39. > :05:40.senior people. senior people.

:05:40. > :05:41.What do you mean? What do you mean?

:05:41. > :05:42.The balance was swaying The balance was swaying

:05:42. > :05:43.The balance was swaying tremendously in favour of the

:05:43. > :05:44.tremendously in favour of the tremendously in favour of the

:05:44. > :05:45.upkeep of the charity - salaries, upkeep of the charity - salaries,

:05:45. > :05:45.upkeep of the charity - salaries, cars, the recruitment of more and

:05:45. > :05:46.cars, the recruitment of more and more senior personnel.

:05:47. > :05:47.more senior personnel. more senior personnel.

:05:47. > :05:48.One of those senior personnel was One of those senior personnel was

:05:48. > :05:49.One of those senior personnel was One of those senior personnel was

:05:49. > :05:50.the head of PR and was paid through the head of PR and was paid through

:05:50. > :05:51.the head of PR and was paid through a public relations company called

:05:51. > :05:52.Loquendi. Loquendi.

:05:52. > :05:53.Loquendi. Did you know about Loquendi?

:05:53. > :05:54.Did you know about Loquendi? Did you know about Loquendi?

:05:54. > :05:55.Yes, I had heard of Loquendi, Yes, I had heard of Loquendi,

:05:55. > :05:55.Yes, I had heard of Loquendi, Yes, I had heard of Loquendi,

:05:55. > :05:56.because Andy, the CEO of the Air because Andy, the CEO of the Air

:05:56. > :05:57.because Andy, the CEO of the Air Ambulance, was married to the

:05:57. > :05:58.Ambulance, was married to the director of Loquendi.

:05:58. > :05:59.director of Loquendi. director of Loquendi.

:05:59. > :05:59.And Loquendi, I know, organised And Loquendi, I know, organised

:05:59. > :06:00.And Loquendi, I know, organised events that benefited the air

:06:00. > :06:01.ambulance. ambulance.

:06:01. > :06:02.ambulance. Barbara also says Loquendi helped

:06:02. > :06:03.Barbara also says Loquendi helped Barbara also says Loquendi helped

:06:03. > :06:04.book celebrities for charity events book celebrities for charity events

:06:04. > :06:04.book celebrities for charity events book celebrities for charity events

:06:04. > :06:05.and that they were paid for their appearances.

:06:05. > :06:06.appearances. appearances.

:06:06. > :06:07.What is wrong with celebrity What is wrong with celebrity

:06:07. > :06:08.What is wrong with celebrity endorsement, if it brings in money?

:06:08. > :06:09.endorsement, if it brings in money? endorsement, if it brings in money?

:06:09. > :06:10.endorsement, if it brings in money? It depends on how it is promoted,

:06:10. > :06:10.It depends on how it is promoted, It depends on how it is promoted,

:06:10. > :06:11.whether it is perceived that whether it is perceived that

:06:11. > :06:13.whether it is perceived that somebody is appearing free of

:06:13. > :06:14.somebody is appearing free of somebody is appearing free of

:06:14. > :06:15.charge. What element is charged and charge. What element is charged and

:06:15. > :06:19.charge. What element is charged and charge. What element is charged and

:06:19. > :06:20.what profit is made from the event. what profit is made from the event.

:06:20. > :06:21.The charity's spending on The charity's spending on

:06:21. > :06:25.The charity's spending on celebrities, it seems, was not only

:06:25. > :06:26.celebrities, it seems, was not only confined to fundraising events.

:06:26. > :06:27.confined to fundraising events. confined to fundraising events.

:06:27. > :06:30.Barbara also told me she remembers Barbara also told me she remembers

:06:30. > :06:31.a staff party. a staff party.

:06:31. > :06:34.a staff party. a staff party.

:06:34. > :06:35.It was in this village hall in Dunchurch, Rugby.

:06:35. > :06:36.Dunchurch, Rugby. Dunchurch, Rugby.

:06:36. > :06:37.Dunchurch, Rugby. Anton Du Beke and Erin Boag, from

:06:37. > :06:38.Anton Du Beke and Erin Boag, from Anton Du Beke and Erin Boag, from

:06:38. > :06:39.BBC's Strictly Come Dancing, were BBC's Strictly Come Dancing, were

:06:39. > :06:42.BBC's Strictly Come Dancing, were invited to give dancing lessons to

:06:42. > :06:43.the staff. the staff.

:06:43. > :06:47.the staff. It was organised by the chief

:06:47. > :06:48.It was organised by the chief executive, Andy Williamson.

:06:48. > :06:49.executive, Andy Williamson. executive, Andy Williamson.

:06:49. > :06:52.She claims it cost the charity She claims it cost the charity

:06:52. > :06:53.several thousand pounds. several thousand pounds.

:06:53. > :06:54.several thousand pounds. several thousand pounds.

:06:54. > :06:55.She also claims that she was paid a She also claims that she was paid a

:06:55. > :07:03.�3,500 performance-related bonus - �3,500 performance-related bonus -

:07:03. > :07:04.something she now regrets. something she now regrets.

:07:04. > :07:05.something she now regrets. According to their latest accounts,

:07:05. > :07:06.According to their latest accounts, Andy Williamson, the Air

:07:06. > :07:07.Andy Williamson, the Air Ambulance's chief executive, is

:07:07. > :07:10.Ambulance's chief executive, is Ambulance's chief executive, is

:07:10. > :07:11.paid between �110,000 and �119,000. paid between �110,000 and �119,000.

:07:11. > :07:20.paid between �110,000 and �119,000. paid between �110,000 and �119,000.

:07:20. > :07:21.paid between �110,000 and �119,000. I have come to Coventry Airport. It

:07:21. > :07:22.I have come to Coventry Airport. It I have come to Coventry Airport. It

:07:22. > :07:25.is home of The Air Ambulance is home of The Air Ambulance

:07:25. > :07:26.is home of The Air Ambulance Service and where he is based.

:07:26. > :07:27.Service and where he is based. Service and where he is based.

:07:27. > :07:30.Service and where he is based. Why did you choose the name Air

:07:31. > :07:32.Ambulance Service? Ambulance Service?

:07:32. > :07:32.Ambulance Service? Well, the Air Ambulance Service is

:07:32. > :07:33.Well, the Air Ambulance Service is Well, the Air Ambulance Service is

:07:33. > :07:36.Well, the Air Ambulance Service is a good reflection of what we are

:07:36. > :07:37.actually doing. actually doing.

:07:37. > :07:38.actually doing. actually doing.

:07:38. > :07:38.The CEO of Lincs & Notts Air The CEO of Lincs & Notts Air

:07:38. > :07:39.The CEO of Lincs & Notts Air Ambulance has complained that you

:07:39. > :07:40.Ambulance has complained that you have been dropping charity

:07:40. > :07:42.have been dropping charity have been dropping charity

:07:42. > :07:43.collection bags in their area and confusing donors.

:07:43. > :07:44.confusing donors. confusing donors.

:07:44. > :07:45.confusing donors. In one week alone, they received 42

:07:45. > :07:46.In one week alone, they received 42 In one week alone, they received 42

:07:46. > :07:47.In one week alone, they received 42 complaints from its donors - all of

:07:47. > :07:48.complaints from its donors - all of complaints from its donors - all of

:07:48. > :07:56.complaints from its donors - all of which takes time and money to try

:07:56. > :07:57.which takes time and money to try which takes time and money to try

:07:57. > :07:58.and address. We operate nationwide. and address. We operate nationwide.

:07:58. > :07:59.and address. We operate nationwide. The Air Ambulance Service engages

:07:59. > :08:00.The Air Ambulance Service engages The Air Ambulance Service engages

:08:00. > :08:01.in fundraising wherever we are, so, in fundraising wherever we are, so,

:08:01. > :08:02.in fundraising wherever we are, so, therefore, we need to collect. We

:08:02. > :08:03.therefore, we need to collect. We therefore, we need to collect. We

:08:03. > :08:04.need to raise money, because �2 need to raise money, because �2

:08:04. > :08:05.need to raise money, because �2 million a year is the Children's

:08:05. > :08:06.Air Ambulance. Air Ambulance.

:08:06. > :08:07.Air Ambulance. Is it appropriate for your charity

:08:07. > :08:08.Is it appropriate for your charity Is it appropriate for your charity

:08:08. > :08:09.to have paid Loquendi for services, to have paid Loquendi for services,

:08:09. > :08:10.to have paid Loquendi for services, when its director is your wife?

:08:10. > :08:11.when its director is your wife? when its director is your wife?

:08:11. > :08:12.when its director is your wife? It is not any kind of conflict. We

:08:12. > :08:13.It is not any kind of conflict. We It is not any kind of conflict. We

:08:13. > :08:14.are looking at whatever services are looking at whatever services

:08:14. > :08:14.are looking at whatever services are looking at whatever services

:08:14. > :08:15.that we need to provide for our that we need to provide for our

:08:15. > :08:16.that we need to provide for our staff for our organisation, because

:08:16. > :08:17.staff for our organisation, because staff for our organisation, because

:08:17. > :08:18.staff for our organisation, because in the end, we have to deliver very

:08:18. > :08:19.in the end, we have to deliver very substantial sums, to deliver

:08:19. > :08:20.patient care. patient care.

:08:20. > :08:21.patient care. patient care.

:08:21. > :08:21.Did you have any hand in her appointment?

:08:21. > :08:21.Who

:08:21. > :08:21.Who did?

:08:21. > :08:22.Who did? We

:08:22. > :08:22.We have

:08:22. > :08:22.Who did? We have a

:08:22. > :08:22.We have a board

:08:22. > :08:23.Who did? We have a board of

:08:23. > :08:23.We have a board of trustees

:08:23. > :08:23.Who did? We have a board of trustees that

:08:23. > :08:23.We have a board of trustees that ensure

:08:23. > :08:24.ensure that

:08:24. > :08:24.We have a board of trustees that ensure that all

:08:24. > :08:24.ensure that all our

:08:24. > :08:24.We have a board of trustees that ensure that all our processes

:08:24. > :08:25.ensure that all our processes and

:08:25. > :08:25.ensure that all our processes and all

:08:25. > :08:25.all our

:08:25. > :08:25.ensure that all our processes and all our governance

:08:25. > :08:26.all our governance is

:08:26. > :08:26.ensure that all our processes and all our governance is absolutely

:08:26. > :08:26.all our governance is absolutely correct.

:08:26. > :08:26.correct. So

:08:26. > :08:27.So you

:08:27. > :08:27.correct. So you think

:08:27. > :08:27.So you think your

:08:27. > :08:27.correct. So you think your wife

:08:27. > :08:28.So you think your wife is

:08:28. > :08:28.correct. So you think your wife is the

:08:28. > :08:28.So you think your wife is the best

:08:28. > :08:28.So you think your wife is the best person

:08:28. > :08:29.person for

:08:29. > :08:29.So you think your wife is the best person for that

:08:29. > :08:29.person for that job?

:08:29. > :08:29.person for that job? Well,

:08:29. > :08:31.Well, absolutely.

:08:31. > :08:31.Well, absolutely. You

:08:31. > :08:31.You paid

:08:31. > :08:32.Well, absolutely. You paid Strictly

:08:32. > :08:32.You paid Strictly Come

:08:32. > :08:32.Well, absolutely. You paid Strictly Come Dancing

:08:32. > :08:34.You paid Strictly Come Dancing celebrities.

:08:34. > :08:34.celebrities. It

:08:34. > :08:34.You paid Strictly Come Dancing celebrities. It cost

:08:34. > :08:34.celebrities. It cost several

:08:34. > :08:35.celebrities. It cost several thousand

:08:35. > :08:35.thousand pounds

:08:35. > :08:35.celebrities. It cost several thousand pounds to

:08:35. > :08:35.thousand pounds to have

:08:35. > :08:36.celebrities. It cost several thousand pounds to have an

:08:36. > :08:36.thousand pounds to have an away-day

:08:36. > :08:36.thousand pounds to have an away-day moral

:08:36. > :08:36.moral boosting

:08:36. > :08:38.thousand pounds to have an away-day moral boosting afternoon.

:08:38. > :08:38.moral boosting afternoon. Is

:08:38. > :08:38.thousand pounds to have an away-day moral boosting afternoon. Is that

:08:39. > :08:39.moral boosting afternoon. Is that really

:08:39. > :08:39.really appropriate

:08:39. > :08:39.moral boosting afternoon. Is that really appropriate for

:08:39. > :08:39.really appropriate for money

:08:39. > :08:40.moral boosting afternoon. Is that really appropriate for money to

:08:40. > :08:40.really appropriate for money to be

:08:40. > :08:40.really appropriate for money to be spent

:08:40. > :08:40.spent that

:08:40. > :08:45.really appropriate for money to be spent that way?

:08:45. > :08:45.spent that way? Again,

:08:45. > :08:45.Again, it

:08:45. > :08:46.spent that way? Again, it is

:08:46. > :08:46.Again, it is about

:08:46. > :08:46.spent that way? Again, it is about what

:08:46. > :08:46.Again, it is about what we

:08:46. > :08:47.spent that way? Again, it is about what we do

:08:47. > :08:47.Again, it is about what we do for

:08:47. > :08:47.Again, it is about what we do for our

:08:47. > :08:47.our patients,

:08:47. > :08:50.Again, it is about what we do for our patients, because...

:08:50. > :08:50.our patients, because... But

:08:50. > :08:50.But that

:08:50. > :08:51.our patients, because... But that is

:08:51. > :08:51.But that is not

:08:51. > :08:51.our patients, because... But that is not for

:08:51. > :08:51.But that is not for patients.

:08:51. > :08:52.our patients, because... But that is not for patients. That

:08:52. > :08:52.But that is not for patients. That is

:08:52. > :08:52.is for

:08:52. > :08:52.But that is not for patients. That is for the

:08:52. > :08:53.is for the staff.

:08:53. > :08:54.is for the staff. Everything

:08:54. > :08:54.Everything is

:08:54. > :08:54.is for the staff. Everything is about

:08:54. > :08:54.Everything is about patients,

:08:55. > :08:55.Everything is about patients, because

:08:55. > :08:55.because however

:08:55. > :08:55.Everything is about patients, because however many

:08:55. > :08:55.because however many staff

:08:55. > :08:56.Everything is about patients, because however many staff we

:08:56. > :08:56.because however many staff we have,

:08:56. > :08:56.because however many staff we have, we

:08:56. > :08:56.we need

:08:56. > :08:57.because however many staff we have, we need to

:08:57. > :08:57.we need to keep

:08:57. > :08:57.because however many staff we have, we need to keep them

:08:57. > :08:57.we need to keep them motivated,

:08:57. > :08:58.because however many staff we have, we need to keep them motivated, we

:08:58. > :08:58.we need to keep them motivated, we need

:08:58. > :08:58.need to

:08:58. > :08:58.we need to keep them motivated, we need to keep

:08:59. > :08:59.need to keep them

:08:59. > :08:59.we need to keep them motivated, we need to keep them focussed

:08:59. > :08:59.need to keep them focussed on

:08:59. > :08:59.need to keep them focussed on delivering

:09:00. > :09:00.delivering their

:09:00. > :09:00.need to keep them focussed on delivering their particular

:09:00. > :09:03.delivering their particular role.

:09:03. > :09:04.delivering their particular role. That

:09:04. > :09:04.That ensures

:09:04. > :09:04.delivering their particular role. That ensures that

:09:04. > :09:04.That ensures that we

:09:04. > :09:05.delivering their particular role. That ensures that we deliver

:09:05. > :09:05.That ensures that we deliver that

:09:05. > :09:05.That ensures that we deliver that patient

:09:05. > :09:09.patient care.

:09:09. > :09:09.patient care. This

:09:09. > :09:09.This helicopter

:09:10. > :09:10.patient care. This helicopter will

:09:10. > :09:10.This helicopter will cost

:09:10. > :09:10.patient care. This helicopter will cost �2

:09:10. > :09:10.This helicopter will cost �2 million

:09:11. > :09:11.million a

:09:11. > :09:11.This helicopter will cost �2 million a year

:09:11. > :09:11.million a year to

:09:11. > :09:13.This helicopter will cost �2 million a year to operate.

:09:13. > :09:13.million a year to operate. In

:09:13. > :09:13.This helicopter will cost �2 million a year to operate. In the

:09:13. > :09:13.million a year to operate. In the last

:09:14. > :09:14.last month,

:09:14. > :09:14.million a year to operate. In the last month, it

:09:14. > :09:14.last month, it has

:09:14. > :09:14.million a year to operate. In the last month, it has transported

:09:15. > :09:15.last month, it has transported four

:09:15. > :09:15.last month, it has transported four medical

:09:15. > :09:17.medical teams.

:09:17. > :09:17.last month, it has transported four medical teams. So

:09:17. > :09:17.medical teams. So far,

:09:17. > :09:17.last month, it has transported four medical teams. So far, it

:09:17. > :09:18.medical teams. So far, it has

:09:18. > :09:18.last month, it has transported four medical teams. So far, it has not

:09:18. > :09:18.medical teams. So far, it has not transferred

:09:18. > :09:19.transferred a

:09:19. > :09:19.medical teams. So far, it has not transferred a single

:09:19. > :09:19.transferred a single child,

:09:19. > :09:19.medical teams. So far, it has not transferred a single child, but

:09:19. > :09:19.transferred a single child, but he

:09:20. > :09:20.transferred a single child, but he believes

:09:20. > :09:20.believes it

:09:20. > :09:20.transferred a single child, but he believes it will

:09:20. > :09:21.believes it will by

:09:21. > :09:29.transferred a single child, but he believes it will by Spring.

:09:29. > :09:30.believes it will by Spring. The

:09:30. > :09:30.The Air

:09:30. > :09:30.believes it will by Spring. The Air Ambulance

:09:30. > :09:30.The Air Ambulance Service

:09:30. > :09:31.believes it will by Spring. The Air Ambulance Service are

:09:31. > :09:31.The Air Ambulance Service are not

:09:31. > :09:31.The Air Ambulance Service are not the

:09:31. > :09:31.the only

:09:31. > :09:32.The Air Ambulance Service are not the only ones

:09:32. > :09:32.the only ones looking

:09:32. > :09:32.The Air Ambulance Service are not the only ones looking at

:09:32. > :09:32.the only ones looking at providing

:09:32. > :09:33.the only ones looking at providing a

:09:33. > :09:33.a national

:09:33. > :09:33.the only ones looking at providing a national air

:09:33. > :09:33.a national air transfer

:09:33. > :09:34.the only ones looking at providing a national air transfer service.

:09:34. > :09:34.a national air transfer service. The

:09:34. > :09:34.The NHS

:09:34. > :09:34.a national air transfer service. The NHS has

:09:34. > :09:35.The NHS has just

:09:35. > :09:35.a national air transfer service. The NHS has just commissioned

:09:35. > :09:35.The NHS has just commissioned a

:09:35. > :09:35.The NHS has just commissioned a report,

:09:35. > :09:36.report, looking

:09:36. > :09:36.The NHS has just commissioned a report, looking at

:09:36. > :09:36.report, looking at how

:09:36. > :09:36.The NHS has just commissioned a report, looking at how it

:09:36. > :09:37.report, looking at how it can

:09:37. > :09:37.The NHS has just commissioned a report, looking at how it can be

:09:37. > :09:37.report, looking at how it can be achieved.

:09:37. > :09:37.achieved. And

:09:37. > :09:38.And who

:09:38. > :09:38.achieved. And who will

:09:38. > :09:38.And who will provide

:09:38. > :09:38.achieved. And who will provide it.

:09:38. > :09:39.And who will provide it. We

:09:39. > :09:39.We have

:09:39. > :09:39.And who will provide it. We have obtained

:09:39. > :09:39.We have obtained a

:09:39. > :09:40.And who will provide it. We have obtained a leaked

:09:40. > :09:41.We have obtained a leaked copy.

:09:41. > :09:41.We have obtained a leaked copy. This

:09:41. > :09:42.This draft

:09:42. > :09:42.We have obtained a leaked copy. This draft report

:09:42. > :09:42.This draft report recommends

:09:42. > :09:42.This draft report recommends setting

:09:42. > :09:43.setting up

:09:43. > :09:43.This draft report recommends setting up a

:09:43. > :09:43.setting up a network

:09:43. > :09:43.This draft report recommends setting up a network of

:09:43. > :09:44.setting up a network of different

:09:44. > :09:44.setting up a network of different providers,

:09:44. > :09:44.providers, including

:09:44. > :09:44.setting up a network of different providers, including regional

:09:44. > :09:45.providers, including regional air

:09:45. > :09:48.providers, including regional air ambulances.

:09:48. > :09:48.ambulances. But

:09:48. > :09:48.But looking

:09:48. > :09:49.ambulances. But looking at

:09:49. > :09:49.But looking at the

:09:49. > :09:49.ambulances. But looking at the report,

:09:49. > :09:49.But looking at the report, it

:09:49. > :09:50.ambulances. But looking at the report, it is

:09:50. > :09:50.But looking at the report, it is apparent

:09:50. > :09:50.apparent that

:09:50. > :09:50.But looking at the report, it is apparent that a

:09:50. > :09:51.apparent that a single

:09:51. > :09:51.But looking at the report, it is apparent that a single helicopter

:09:51. > :09:51.apparent that a single helicopter ambulance

:09:51. > :09:51.ambulance based

:09:52. > :09:52.apparent that a single helicopter ambulance based in

:09:52. > :09:52.ambulance based in Coventry

:09:52. > :09:52.apparent that a single helicopter ambulance based in Coventry would

:09:52. > :09:52.ambulance based in Coventry would not

:09:52. > :09:53.not be

:09:53. > :09:53.ambulance based in Coventry would not be able

:09:53. > :09:53.not be able to

:09:53. > :09:53.ambulance based in Coventry would not be able to meet

:09:54. > :09:54.not be able to meet the

:09:54. > :09:54.ambulance based in Coventry would not be able to meet the emergency

:09:54. > :09:54.not be able to meet the emergency response

:09:54. > :09:54.response times

:09:54. > :09:55.not be able to meet the emergency response times for

:09:55. > :09:55.response times for all

:09:55. > :09:55.not be able to meet the emergency response times for all parts

:09:55. > :09:55.response times for all parts of

:09:55. > :09:57.not be able to meet the emergency response times for all parts of the

:09:57. > :10:00.response times for all parts of the country.

:10:00. > :10:00.country. And

:10:01. > :10:01.And even

:10:01. > :10:01.country. And even if

:10:01. > :10:01.And even if it

:10:01. > :10:01.country. And even if it could,

:10:02. > :10:02.And even if it could, less

:10:02. > :10:02.country. And even if it could, less than

:10:02. > :10:02.And even if it could, less than a

:10:02. > :10:02.And even if it could, less than a quarter

:10:02. > :10:03.quarter of

:10:03. > :10:03.And even if it could, less than a quarter of our

:10:03. > :10:03.quarter of our hospitals

:10:03. > :10:04.And even if it could, less than a quarter of our hospitals have

:10:04. > :10:04.quarter of our hospitals have a

:10:04. > :10:04.quarter of our hospitals have a helipad

:10:04. > :10:04.helipad for

:10:04. > :10:04.quarter of our hospitals have a helipad for it

:10:04. > :10:05.helipad for it to

:10:05. > :10:05.quarter of our hospitals have a helipad for it to land

:10:05. > :10:15.helipad for it to land on.

:10:15. > :10:19.

:10:19. > :10:19.helipad for it to land on. In

:10:19. > :10:20.In the

:10:20. > :10:20.helipad for it to land on. In the meantime,

:10:20. > :10:20.In the meantime, the

:10:20. > :10:20.helipad for it to land on. In the meantime, the arguments

:10:20. > :10:21.In the meantime, the arguments continue

:10:21. > :10:21.continue over

:10:21. > :10:21.In the meantime, the arguments continue over the

:10:21. > :10:21.continue over the way

:10:21. > :10:22.In the meantime, the arguments continue over the way the

:10:22. > :10:22.continue over the way the Air

:10:22. > :10:22.continue over the way the Air Ambulance

:10:22. > :10:22.Ambulance Service

:10:22. > :10:23.continue over the way the Air Ambulance Service is

:10:23. > :10:23.Ambulance Service is using

:10:23. > :10:23.continue over the way the Air Ambulance Service is using its

:10:23. > :10:23.Ambulance Service is using its children's

:10:23. > :10:24.children's helicopter

:10:24. > :10:24.Ambulance Service is using its children's helicopter to

:10:24. > :10:24.children's helicopter to raise

:10:24. > :10:24.children's helicopter to raise money

:10:24. > :10:25.money and

:10:25. > :10:25.children's helicopter to raise money and how

:10:25. > :10:25.money and how that

:10:25. > :10:25.children's helicopter to raise money and how that is

:10:25. > :10:26.money and how that is impacting

:10:26. > :10:26.children's helicopter to raise money and how that is impacting on

:10:26. > :10:26.money and how that is impacting on our

:10:26. > :10:26.our local

:10:26. > :10:27.money and how that is impacting on our local services.

:10:27. > :10:27.our local services. We

:10:27. > :10:27.We have

:10:27. > :10:27.our local services. We have been

:10:27. > :10:28.We have been operating

:10:28. > :10:28.our local services. We have been operating since

:10:28. > :10:28.We have been operating since 1994.

:10:28. > :10:28.We have been operating since 1994. The

:10:28. > :10:29.The charity

:10:29. > :10:29.We have been operating since 1994. The charity was

:10:29. > :10:29.The charity was set

:10:29. > :10:29.We have been operating since 1994. The charity was set up

:10:29. > :10:30.The charity was set up in

:10:30. > :10:30.We have been operating since 1994. The charity was set up in 1993,

:10:30. > :10:30.The charity was set up in 1993, so

:10:30. > :10:30.The charity was set up in 1993, so we

:10:30. > :10:31.we have

:10:31. > :10:31.The charity was set up in 1993, so we have been

:10:31. > :10:31.we have been operating

:10:31. > :10:31.The charity was set up in 1993, so we have been operating for

:10:31. > :10:32.we have been operating for 18

:10:32. > :10:32.The charity was set up in 1993, so we have been operating for 18 years

:10:32. > :10:32.we have been operating for 18 years now

:10:32. > :10:32.now and

:10:32. > :10:33.we have been operating for 18 years now and the

:10:33. > :10:33.now and the number

:10:33. > :10:33.we have been operating for 18 years now and the number of

:10:33. > :10:33.now and the number of supporters

:10:33. > :10:34.we have been operating for 18 years now and the number of supporters we

:10:34. > :10:34.now and the number of supporters we have

:10:34. > :10:34.have got

:10:34. > :10:34.now and the number of supporters we have got has

:10:34. > :10:35.have got has grown

:10:35. > :10:35.now and the number of supporters we have got has grown steadily

:10:35. > :10:35.have got has grown steadily year-

:10:35. > :10:35.have got has grown steadily year- on-year

:10:35. > :10:36.on-year and

:10:36. > :10:36.have got has grown steadily year- on-year and this

:10:36. > :10:36.on-year and this is

:10:36. > :10:36.have got has grown steadily year- on-year and this is really

:10:36. > :10:37.on-year and this is really what

:10:37. > :10:37.on-year and this is really what keeps

:10:37. > :10:37.keeps the

:10:37. > :10:37.on-year and this is really what keeps the whole

:10:38. > :10:38.keeps the whole service

:10:38. > :10:38.on-year and this is really what keeps the whole service going.

:10:38. > :10:38.keeps the whole service going. If

:10:38. > :10:38.keeps the whole service going. If they

:10:38. > :10:39.they do

:10:39. > :10:39.keeps the whole service going. If they do not

:10:39. > :10:39.they do not support

:10:39. > :10:39.keeps the whole service going. If they do not support us,

:10:39. > :10:40.they do not support us, we

:10:40. > :10:40.keeps the whole service going. If they do not support us, we cannot

:10:40. > :10:40.they do not support us, we cannot afford

:10:40. > :10:40.afford to

:10:41. > :10:41.they do not support us, we cannot afford to pay

:10:41. > :10:41.afford to pay for

:10:41. > :10:41.they do not support us, we cannot afford to pay for the

:10:41. > :10:48.afford to pay for the helicopter.

:10:48. > :10:48.afford to pay for the helicopter. If

:10:48. > :10:48.If the

:10:48. > :10:48.afford to pay for the helicopter. If the opportunity

:10:48. > :10:49.If the opportunity to

:10:49. > :10:49.afford to pay for the helicopter. If the opportunity to raise

:10:49. > :10:49.If the opportunity to raise funds

:10:49. > :10:50.If the opportunity to raise funds for

:10:50. > :10:50.for the

:10:50. > :10:50.If the opportunity to raise funds for the local

:10:50. > :10:50.for the local air

:10:50. > :10:50.If the opportunity to raise funds for the local air ambulance

:10:50. > :10:51.for the local air ambulance are

:10:51. > :10:51.for the local air ambulance are diminished,

:10:51. > :10:51.diminished, there

:10:51. > :10:51.for the local air ambulance are diminished, there is

:10:51. > :10:52.diminished, there is a

:10:52. > :10:52.for the local air ambulance are diminished, there is a real

:10:52. > :10:52.diminished, there is a real likelihood

:10:52. > :10:52.likelihood you

:10:52. > :10:53.diminished, there is a real likelihood you will

:10:53. > :10:53.likelihood you will jeopordise

:10:53. > :10:53.diminished, there is a real likelihood you will jeopordise that

:10:53. > :10:53.likelihood you will jeopordise that service

:10:53. > :10:54.service and

:10:54. > :10:54.likelihood you will jeopordise that service and jeopordise

:10:54. > :10:54.service and jeopordise people's

:10:54. > :11:00.service and jeopordise people's lives.

:11:00. > :11:01.lives. Matthew

:11:01. > :11:01.Matthew Hill

:11:01. > :11:01.lives. Matthew Hill reporting.

:11:01. > :11:01.Matthew Hill reporting. Next

:11:01. > :11:02.Next tonight,

:11:02. > :11:02.Matthew Hill reporting. Next tonight, not

:11:02. > :11:02.Next tonight, not far

:11:02. > :11:02.Matthew Hill reporting. Next tonight, not far from

:11:02. > :11:03.Next tonight, not far from here

:11:03. > :11:03.Next tonight, not far from here back

:11:03. > :11:03.back in

:11:03. > :11:03.Next tonight, not far from here back in the

:11:03. > :11:04.back in the 1930s,

:11:04. > :11:04.Next tonight, not far from here back in the 1930s, a

:11:04. > :11:04.back in the 1930s, a social

:11:04. > :11:04.back in the 1930s, a social experiment

:11:04. > :11:05.experiment took

:11:05. > :11:05.back in the 1930s, a social experiment took place

:11:05. > :11:05.experiment took place aimed

:11:05. > :11:05.back in the 1930s, a social experiment took place aimed at

:11:05. > :11:06.experiment took place aimed at tackling

:11:06. > :11:08.tackling unemployment.

:11:08. > :11:08.tackling unemployment. In

:11:08. > :11:08.In 1930,

:11:08. > :11:09.tackling unemployment. In 1930, following

:11:09. > :11:09.In 1930, following the

:11:09. > :11:09.tackling unemployment. In 1930, following the Great

:11:09. > :11:09.In 1930, following the Great Depression,

:11:09. > :11:10.Depression, there

:11:10. > :11:10.In 1930, following the Great Depression, there was

:11:10. > :11:10.Depression, there was a

:11:10. > :11:10.In 1930, following the Great Depression, there was a vast

:11:10. > :11:11.Depression, there was a vast army

:11:11. > :11:11.Depression, there was a vast army of

:11:11. > :11:11.of men

:11:11. > :11:11.Depression, there was a vast army of men out

:11:11. > :11:12.of men out of

:11:12. > :11:12.Depression, there was a vast army of men out of work.

:11:12. > :11:12.of men out of work. Here

:11:12. > :11:12.Depression, there was a vast army of men out of work. Here in

:11:12. > :11:13.of men out of work. Here in a

:11:13. > :11:13.of men out of work. Here in a hidden

:11:13. > :11:13.hidden corner

:11:13. > :11:13.of men out of work. Here in a hidden corner of

:11:13. > :11:14.hidden corner of Derbyshire,

:11:14. > :11:14.of men out of work. Here in a hidden corner of Derbyshire, they

:11:14. > :11:14.hidden corner of Derbyshire, they tried

:11:14. > :11:14.tried a

:11:14. > :11:15.hidden corner of Derbyshire, they tried a new

:11:15. > :11:15.tried a new approach.

:11:15. > :11:15.tried a new approach. Could

:11:15. > :11:15.Could something

:11:15. > :11:16.tried a new approach. Could something similar

:11:16. > :11:16.Could something similar work

:11:16. > :11:17.tried a new approach. Could something similar work today?

:11:17. > :11:17.Could something similar work today? Broadcaster

:11:17. > :11:17.Broadcaster Barbara

:11:17. > :11:18.Could something similar work today? Broadcaster Barbara Jacobs

:11:18. > :11:18.Broadcaster Barbara Jacobs takes

:11:18. > :11:18.Could something similar work today? Broadcaster Barbara Jacobs takes up

:11:18. > :11:18.Broadcaster Barbara Jacobs takes up the

:11:18. > :11:28.the story.

:11:28. > :11:48.

:11:48. > :11:48.West

:11:48. > :11:48.West of

:11:48. > :11:50.West of the

:11:50. > :11:51.West of the Derwent Valley stands a West of the Derwent Valley stands a

:11:51. > :11:52.West of the Derwent Valley stands a medieval woodland that has inspired

:11:52. > :11:52.medieval woodland that has inspired medieval woodland that has inspired

:11:52. > :11:53.artists and writers for years. artists and writers for years.

:11:53. > :11:54.artists and writers for years. This is the beautiful Shining Cliff

:11:54. > :11:55.This is the beautiful Shining Cliff This is the beautiful Shining Cliff

:11:55. > :11:56.Woods, the inspiration for nursery Woods, the inspiration for nursery

:11:56. > :11:57.rhyme Rock-a-bye, Baby. rhyme Rock-a-bye, Baby.

:11:57. > :11:58.rhyme Rock-a-bye, Baby. rhyme Rock-a-bye, Baby.

:11:58. > :11:59.It was also the cradle of a social It was also the cradle of a social

:11:59. > :12:00.experiment 80 years ago. experiment 80 years ago.

:12:00. > :12:01.experiment 80 years ago. This was 1930's Britain during the

:12:01. > :12:02.This was 1930's Britain during the Great Depression - widescale

:12:02. > :12:03.Great Depression - widescale unemployment and soup kitchens.

:12:03. > :12:04.unemployment and soup kitchens. unemployment and soup kitchens.

:12:04. > :12:06.But a group of socialist academics But a group of socialist academics

:12:06. > :12:07.had an idea. had an idea.

:12:07. > :12:07.had an idea. had an idea.

:12:07. > :12:08.They wanted to offer a fresh start, They wanted to offer a fresh start,

:12:08. > :12:11.They wanted to offer a fresh start, to give jobless men confidence and

:12:11. > :12:11.motivation. motivation.

:12:11. > :12:15.motivation. It was called GrythFryd, which

:12:15. > :12:16.It was called GrythFryd, which means Peace Army.

:12:16. > :12:17.means Peace Army. means Peace Army.

:12:17. > :12:18.These camps are small self-governed These camps are small self-governed

:12:18. > :12:19.These camps are small self-governed communities where young men of all

:12:19. > :12:20.communities where young men of all communities where young men of all

:12:20. > :12:22.classes can develop themselves both classes can develop themselves both

:12:22. > :12:23.physically and mentally. physically and mentally.

:12:23. > :12:25.physically and mentally. physically and mentally.

:12:25. > :12:26.One of their camps was in Shining Cliff Wood.

:12:26. > :12:27.Cliff Wood. Cliff Wood.

:12:27. > :12:30.They still run courses here in They still run courses here in

:12:30. > :12:31.self-sufficiency and bushcraft. self-sufficiency and bushcraft.

:12:31. > :12:32.self-sufficiency and bushcraft. So I wondered, could a similar

:12:32. > :12:35.So I wondered, could a similar So I wondered, could a similar

:12:35. > :12:36.approach work 80 years later? approach work 80 years later?

:12:36. > :12:36.approach work 80 years later? approach work 80 years later?

:12:36. > :12:39.After all, we are in the perfect After all, we are in the perfect

:12:39. > :12:40.After all, we are in the perfect economic climate to test that out.

:12:40. > :12:41.economic climate to test that out. economic climate to test that out.

:12:41. > :12:42.economic climate to test that out. We have not got months, but Inside

:12:42. > :12:43.We have not got months, but Inside We have not got months, but Inside

:12:43. > :12:44.Out went looking for some willing Out went looking for some willing

:12:44. > :12:54.Out went looking for some willing volunteers to take up the challenge

:12:54. > :12:57.volunteers to take up the challenge A few weeks later, we have found

:12:57. > :12:58.our recruits. our recruits.

:12:58. > :12:59.our recruits. our recruits.

:12:59. > :13:01.Craig is 22 and desperate to get Craig is 22 and desperate to get

:13:01. > :13:02.into the armed forces. into the armed forces.

:13:02. > :13:04.into the armed forces. into the armed forces.

:13:04. > :13:05.Lee is 18 and wants a career in retail.

:13:05. > :13:08.retail. retail.

:13:08. > :13:09.22-year-old Wesley is an aspiring illustrator.

:13:09. > :13:10.illustrator. illustrator.

:13:10. > :13:11.And unemployed writer Alex is 39 And unemployed writer Alex is 39

:13:11. > :13:15.And unemployed writer Alex is 39 And unemployed writer Alex is 39

:13:15. > :13:16.and soon to be a dad of twins. and soon to be a dad of twins.

:13:16. > :13:17.and soon to be a dad of twins. They have all been unemployed for

:13:17. > :13:18.They have all been unemployed for more than a year.

:13:18. > :13:19.more than a year. more than a year.

:13:19. > :13:21.They are feeling frustrated and They are feeling frustrated and

:13:21. > :13:22.want to make changes. want to make changes.

:13:22. > :13:23.want to make changes. want to make changes.

:13:23. > :13:23.want to make changes. And this is the man who is going to

:13:24. > :13:24.And this is the man who is going to And this is the man who is going to

:13:24. > :13:27.And this is the man who is going to show them the way - camp leader

:13:27. > :13:28.Paul Booker. Paul Booker.

:13:28. > :13:29.Paul Booker. He is an expert in running

:13:29. > :13:30.He is an expert in running He is an expert in running

:13:30. > :13:31.wilderness courses and will give wilderness courses and will give

:13:31. > :13:32.wilderness courses and will give wilderness courses and will give

:13:32. > :13:33.our recruits a taste of the life our recruits a taste of the life

:13:33. > :13:36.our recruits a taste of the life that the Grith pioneers would have

:13:36. > :13:37.that the Grith pioneers would have endured for years.

:13:38. > :13:38.endured for years. endured for years.

:13:38. > :13:45.It was all about self-sufficiency It was all about self-sufficiency

:13:45. > :13:47.It was all about self-sufficiency with no modern conveniences.

:13:47. > :13:48.with no modern conveniences. with no modern conveniences.

:13:48. > :13:50.with no modern conveniences. you come along the here and to your

:13:50. > :13:51.you come along the here and to your business in here.

:13:51. > :13:51.business in here. business in here.

:13:52. > :13:52.business in here. They have got to learn key survival

:13:52. > :13:53.They have got to learn key survival They have got to learn key survival

:13:53. > :13:54.They have got to learn key survival skills to get them through the next

:13:54. > :13:55.24 hours. 24 hours.

:13:55. > :14:02.24 hours. So first things first, making a

:14:02. > :14:03.shelter. shelter.

:14:03. > :14:09.shelter. shelter.

:14:09. > :14:10.shelter. Lee says he is up for it. I am just

:14:10. > :14:12.Lee says he is up for it. I am just Lee says he is up for it. I am just

:14:12. > :14:14.building my walls around my shelter building my walls around my shelter

:14:14. > :14:24.building my walls around my shelter building my walls around my shelter

:14:24. > :14:26.

:14:26. > :14:27.and I will be eating a squirrel and I will be eating a squirrel

:14:27. > :14:29.and I will be eating a squirrel later! By wanted to take a

:14:29. > :14:30.later! By wanted to take a later! By wanted to take a

:14:30. > :14:34.potential officers course to get potential officers course to get

:14:34. > :14:35.potential officers course to get into the armed forces. But is

:14:35. > :14:36.into the armed forces. But is into the armed forces. But is

:14:36. > :14:37.into the armed forces. But is looking good, but I am a bit

:14:37. > :14:39.looking good, but I am a bit looking good, but I am a bit

:14:39. > :14:48.looking good, but I am a bit worried that it looks more like a

:14:48. > :14:49.worried that it looks more like a worried that it looks more like a

:14:49. > :14:50.worried that it looks more like a wind tunnel. I tend to find that

:14:50. > :14:51.wind tunnel. I tend to find that wind tunnel. I tend to find that

:14:51. > :14:52.wind tunnel. I tend to find that when I first meet people, I do not

:14:52. > :14:53.when I first meet people, I do not when I first meet people, I do not

:14:53. > :14:56.when I first meet people, I do not expect much of them and do not

:14:56. > :14:57.expect much of them and do not expect much of them and do not

:14:57. > :14:58.really trust them. When I make really trust them. When I make

:14:59. > :15:00.really trust them. When I make people that are totally out of

:15:00. > :15:01.people that are totally out of people that are totally out of

:15:01. > :15:02.bounds from the people I normally bounds from the people I normally

:15:02. > :15:07.bounds from the people I normally bounds from the people I normally

:15:07. > :15:09.be with, that can only help me in be with, that can only help me in

:15:09. > :15:14.be with, that can only help me in be with, that can only help me in

:15:15. > :15:15.life. You can do all sorts with life. You can do all sorts with

:15:15. > :15:20.life. You can do all sorts with life. You can do all sorts with

:15:20. > :15:21.this. Here is to be British log! I this. Here is to be British log! I

:15:21. > :15:22.this. Here is to be British log! I this. Here is to be British log! I

:15:22. > :15:23.was doing a lot of sales work for was doing a lot of sales work for

:15:23. > :15:26.was doing a lot of sales work for was doing a lot of sales work for

:15:26. > :15:27.many years and wanted to get more many years and wanted to get more

:15:27. > :15:29.many years and wanted to get more many years and wanted to get more

:15:29. > :15:31.into writing. I had a number of into writing. I had a number of

:15:31. > :15:32.into writing. I had a number of health issues which not me sideways

:15:32. > :15:36.health issues which not me sideways health issues which not me sideways

:15:36. > :15:42.health issues which not me sideways and I am looking to bring myself

:15:43. > :15:43.and I am looking to bring myself and I am looking to bring myself

:15:43. > :15:44.and I am looking to bring myself back-up. A I kept applying for jobs,

:15:44. > :15:45.back-up. A I kept applying for jobs, back-up. A I kept applying for jobs,

:15:45. > :15:46.back-up. A I kept applying for jobs, but I would not be accepted because

:15:46. > :15:48.but I would not be accepted because but I would not be accepted because

:15:48. > :15:51.but I would not be accepted because I did not have a driving licence or

:15:51. > :15:52.I did not have a driving licence or I did not have a driving licence or

:15:52. > :15:53.enough experience. You have to be enough experience. You have to be

:15:54. > :15:58.enough experience. You have to be enough experience. You have to be

:15:58. > :15:59.very careful with this, it is very sharp.

:15:59. > :16:00.sharp. sharp.

:16:00. > :16:01.sharp. Back in the 1930s, the men had to

:16:01. > :16:02.Back in the 1930s, the men had to Back in the 1930s, the men had to

:16:02. > :16:03.construct a huge campsite from construct a huge campsite from

:16:03. > :16:04.construct a huge campsite from scratch, including making pig sties,

:16:04. > :16:04.scratch, including making pig sties, digging allotments and building

:16:04. > :16:05.huts. huts.

:16:05. > :16:06.huts. Jill Jones is the granddaughter of

:16:06. > :16:07.Jill Jones is the granddaughter of Jill Jones is the granddaughter of

:16:07. > :16:08.Norman Glaister, one of the Norman Glaister, one of the

:16:08. > :16:14.Norman Glaister, one of the academics who came up with the

:16:14. > :16:17.academics who came up with the academics who came up with the

:16:17. > :16:19.original peace army idea. original peace army idea.

:16:19. > :16:20.grandfather was involved with grandfather was involved with

:16:20. > :16:21.grandfather was involved with others in setting up the

:16:21. > :16:24.others in setting up the others in setting up the

:16:24. > :16:25.organisation. He was the socialist organisation. He was the socialist

:16:25. > :16:25.organisation. He was the socialist and anxious about the unemployment

:16:26. > :16:27.and anxious about the unemployment and anxious about the unemployment

:16:27. > :16:28.situation at the time. He thought situation at the time. He thought

:16:28. > :16:29.situation at the time. He thought situation at the time. He thought

:16:29. > :16:32.there could be a better way for there could be a better way for

:16:32. > :16:33.there could be a better way for people to use their leisure time.

:16:33. > :16:34.people to use their leisure time. people to use their leisure time.

:16:34. > :16:35.people to use their leisure time. 91 of those who went through the

:16:35. > :16:36.91 of those who went through the 91 of those who went through the

:16:36. > :16:39.91 of those who went through the 91 of those who went through the

:16:39. > :16:39.camp got a job at the end of it. camp got a job at the end of it.

:16:39. > :16:42.camp got a job at the end of it. Three other people went to

:16:42. > :16:43.university. university.

:16:43. > :16:45.university. university.

:16:45. > :16:46.That is a pretty good success rate. That is a pretty good success rate.

:16:46. > :16:47.That is a pretty good success rate. That is a pretty good success rate.

:16:47. > :16:48.But they had months in the woods. But they had months in the woods.

:16:48. > :16:49.But they had months in the woods. But they had months in the woods.

:16:49. > :16:53.All our volunteers need to do is to All our volunteers need to do is to

:16:53. > :16:55.All our volunteers need to do is to get through one night. I thing

:16:55. > :16:57.get through one night. I thing getting people outdoors and

:16:57. > :17:02.getting people outdoors and getting people outdoors and

:17:02. > :17:03.developing the sort of skills is developing the sort of skills is

:17:03. > :17:04.developing the sort of skills is very important. They are going to

:17:04. > :17:05.very important. They are going to very important. They are going to

:17:05. > :17:06.very important. They are going to mix with new people, do tasks that

:17:06. > :17:09.mix with new people, do tasks that mix with new people, do tasks that

:17:09. > :17:10.mix with new people, do tasks that they have not done before. It is

:17:10. > :17:14.they have not done before. It is they have not done before. It is

:17:14. > :17:20.they have not done before. It is just a good learning point. That is

:17:20. > :17:21.just a good learning point. That is absolutely wonderful. Just been

:17:21. > :17:23.absolutely wonderful. Just been absolutely wonderful. Just been

:17:23. > :17:24.able to motivate themselves to get able to motivate themselves to get

:17:24. > :17:26.able to motivate themselves to get able to motivate themselves to get

:17:26. > :17:27.able to motivate themselves to get up and do it. They are out here and

:17:27. > :17:27.up and do it. They are out here and up and do it. They are out here and

:17:28. > :17:28.up and do it. They are out here and up and do it. They are out here and

:17:28. > :17:29.if they do not do it, no one else if they do not do it, no one else

:17:29. > :17:32.if they do not do it, no one else if they do not do it, no one else

:17:32. > :17:35.is going to do it for them. is going to do it for them.

:17:35. > :17:37.is going to do it for them. Compared to back-court, if you have

:17:37. > :17:39.Compared to back-court, if you have Compared to back-court, if you have

:17:39. > :17:41.Compared to back-court, if you have nothing to get up for, why bother?

:17:41. > :17:42.nothing to get up for, why bother? nothing to get up for, why bother?

:17:42. > :17:46.The need that motivation to make The need that motivation to make

:17:46. > :17:47.The need that motivation to make these changes in their lives.

:17:47. > :17:48.these changes in their lives. these changes in their lives.

:17:48. > :17:49.these changes in their lives. And if they were not out of their

:17:49. > :17:49.And if they were not out of their And if they were not out of their

:17:49. > :17:50.comfort zone already, the great comfort zone already, the great

:17:50. > :17:51.comfort zone already, the great British weather was there to finish

:17:51. > :17:52.the job. the job.

:17:52. > :17:53.the job. Well, that has dampened their

:17:53. > :17:54.Well, that has dampened their Well, that has dampened their

:17:54. > :17:55.enthusiasm, somewhat, but life in enthusiasm, somewhat, but life in

:17:55. > :17:56.enthusiasm, somewhat, but life in enthusiasm, somewhat, but life in

:17:56. > :17:57.the camp meant that you just had to the camp meant that you just had to

:17:57. > :17:58.the camp meant that you just had to the camp meant that you just had to

:17:58. > :18:03.get on with it, if you wanted to get on with it, if you wanted to

:18:03. > :18:05.get on with it, if you wanted to get on with it, if you wanted to

:18:05. > :18:15.eat that night. It is a fantastic eat that night. It is a fantastic

:18:15. > :18:20.

:18:20. > :18:24.eat that night. It is a fantastic -- insects. No joy like one of

:18:25. > :18:26.-- insects. No joy like one of -- insects. No joy like one of

:18:26. > :18:27.-- insects. No joy like one of these? My will, I have got a rule,

:18:27. > :18:28.these? My will, I have got a rule, these? My will, I have got a rule,

:18:28. > :18:31.these? My will, I have got a rule, that I do not eat anything that is

:18:31. > :18:31.moving. moving.

:18:31. > :18:32.moving. 80 years ago, the campers were

:18:33. > :18:33.80 years ago, the campers were 80 years ago, the campers were

:18:33. > :18:34.80 years ago, the campers were expected to grow their own food on

:18:34. > :18:35.expected to grow their own food on expected to grow their own food on

:18:35. > :18:36.their allotment, but with just 24 their allotment, but with just 24

:18:36. > :18:37.their allotment, but with just 24 their allotment, but with just 24

:18:37. > :18:39.hours, we have decided to give them hours, we have decided to give them

:18:39. > :18:40.a modern treat. a modern treat.

:18:40. > :18:40.a modern treat. a modern treat.

:18:41. > :18:41.Well, dinner is made, the fire is Well, dinner is made, the fire is

:18:42. > :18:42.Well, dinner is made, the fire is Well, dinner is made, the fire is

:18:42. > :18:52.Well, dinner is made, the fire is lit and I am going to leave them to

:18:52. > :18:54.

:18:54. > :18:55.lit and I am going to leave them to It is an early start, but I am

:18:55. > :18:56.It is an early start, but I am It is an early start, but I am

:18:56. > :18:57.It is an early start, but I am anxious to see what impact the last

:18:57. > :18:58.anxious to see what impact the last anxious to see what impact the last

:18:58. > :18:59.anxious to see what impact the last 24 hours has had on our volunteers

:18:59. > :19:00.24 hours has had on our volunteers 24 hours has had on our volunteers

:19:00. > :19:01.24 hours has had on our volunteers and to find out whether the Gryth

:19:01. > :19:11.and to find out whether the Gryth and to find out whether the Gryth

:19:11. > :19:13.

:19:13. > :19:14.philosophy has had an impact. philosophy has had an impact.

:19:14. > :19:16.philosophy has had an impact. philosophy has had an impact.

:19:16. > :19:18.think if you spent a long time here, think if you spent a long time here,

:19:18. > :19:19.think if you spent a long time here, it would definitely changed a live.

:19:19. > :19:20.it would definitely changed a live. it would definitely changed a live.

:19:20. > :19:21.it would definitely changed a live. it would definitely changed a live.

:19:21. > :19:23.Even in the space of a day, we are Even in the space of a day, we are

:19:23. > :19:25.Even in the space of a day, we are interacting with people you would

:19:25. > :19:29.interacting with people you would interacting with people you would

:19:29. > :19:31.interacting with people you would might not normally do. It is great.

:19:31. > :19:32.might not normally do. It is great. might not normally do. It is great.

:19:32. > :19:34.Living out in this environment for Living out in this environment for

:19:34. > :19:35.Living out in this environment for Living out in this environment for

:19:35. > :19:36.a couple of months, in the changer a couple of months, in the changer

:19:36. > :19:41.a couple of months, in the changer entire perspective on the likes of

:19:41. > :19:43.entire perspective on the likes of entire perspective on the likes of

:19:43. > :19:44.entire perspective on the likes of time. I can see the value of the

:19:44. > :19:45.time. I can see the value of the time. I can see the value of the

:19:45. > :19:46.experience, but whether or not it experience, but whether or not it

:19:46. > :19:47.experience, but whether or not it experience, but whether or not it

:19:47. > :19:51.experience, but whether or not it would be for me all the time I am

:19:51. > :19:57.would be for me all the time I am would be for me all the time I am

:19:57. > :19:59.would be for me all the time I am not sure. I will be untouched. -- N

:19:59. > :19:59.the touch. the touch.

:19:59. > :20:09.the touch. So what has happened since we

:20:09. > :20:16.

:20:16. > :20:17.So, maybe what have we found? Maybe So, maybe what have we found? Maybe

:20:17. > :20:19.So, maybe what have we found? Maybe So, maybe what have we found? Maybe

:20:19. > :20:20.the odd just needed to be picked on the path.

:20:20. > :20:21.the path. the path.

:20:21. > :20:29.the path. Craig and Lee are now working and

:20:29. > :20:30.Craig and Lee are now working and really enjoying it.

:20:30. > :20:31.really enjoying it. really enjoying it.

:20:31. > :20:32.really enjoying it. really enjoying it.

:20:32. > :20:33.Alex is now a dad of twins and is Alex is now a dad of twins and is

:20:33. > :20:33.Alex is now a dad of twins and is happy being a stay-at-home dad for

:20:33. > :20:34.happy being a stay-at-home dad for the time being.

:20:34. > :20:35.the time being. the time being.

:20:35. > :20:36.And Wesley is still looking for work.

:20:36. > :20:39.work. work.

:20:39. > :20:40.Hopefully, he will find it soon. Hopefully, he will find it soon.

:20:40. > :20:48.Hopefully, he will find it soon. Hopefully, he will find it soon.

:20:48. > :20:48.There was a time when tower blocks There was a time when tower blocks

:20:49. > :20:51.There was a time when tower blocks were acclaimed. As we have been

:20:51. > :20:52.were acclaimed. As we have been were acclaimed. As we have been

:20:52. > :20:59.finding out, the buildings may go, finding out, the buildings may go,

:21:00. > :21:01.finding out, the buildings may go, but community spirit can stay there.

:21:01. > :21:03.but community spirit can stay there. but community spirit can stay there.

:21:03. > :21:04.To work blocks were once acclaimed. To work blocks were once acclaimed.

:21:04. > :21:05.To work blocks were once acclaimed. A quick-fix solution to a housing

:21:05. > :21:06.A quick-fix solution to a housing A quick-fix solution to a housing

:21:06. > :21:07.A quick-fix solution to a housing crisis caused by the bombs of war

:21:07. > :21:08.crisis caused by the bombs of war crisis caused by the bombs of war

:21:08. > :21:09.and the dilapidated slums of peace time.

:21:09. > :21:09.time. time.

:21:09. > :21:10.They were streets of flats, They were streets of flats,

:21:10. > :21:11.They were streets of flats, designed to go up rather than

:21:11. > :21:14.designed to go up rather than designed to go up rather than

:21:14. > :21:15.across - and they were cheap. across - and they were cheap.

:21:15. > :21:16.across - and they were cheap. For the first time, buildings were

:21:16. > :21:18.For the first time, buildings were pre-fabricated and simply assembled

:21:18. > :21:27.on site. on site.

:21:27. > :21:28.on site. A flat-pack housing era was born.

:21:28. > :21:31.A flat-pack housing era was born. A flat-pack housing era was born.

:21:31. > :21:33.If you think about it, everybody If you think about it, everybody

:21:33. > :21:33.If you think about it, everybody If you think about it, everybody

:21:33. > :21:35.used to build bricks. It was the used to build bricks. It was the

:21:35. > :21:36.used to build bricks. It was the used to build bricks. It was the

:21:36. > :21:38.first time I had ever seen huge first time I had ever seen huge

:21:38. > :21:39.first time I had ever seen huge first time I had ever seen huge

:21:39. > :21:42.slabs of concrete been put in place slabs of concrete been put in place

:21:42. > :21:43.slabs of concrete been put in place slabs of concrete been put in place

:21:43. > :21:46.by a massive Meccano set. And they by a massive Meccano set. And they

:21:46. > :21:47.went up so quickly. went up so quickly.

:21:47. > :21:48.went up so quickly. went up so quickly.

:21:48. > :21:49.In 1965, a block of 600 flats was In 1965, a block of 600 flats was

:21:49. > :21:52.In 1965, a block of 600 flats was built, sprawling across the Hyson

:21:52. > :21:53.built, sprawling across the Hyson Green area of Nottingham.

:21:53. > :21:54.Green area of Nottingham. Green area of Nottingham.

:21:54. > :21:55.Green area of Nottingham. The first people to move in felt a

:21:55. > :21:56.The first people to move in felt a The first people to move in felt a

:21:56. > :21:57.sense of community that is still sense of community that is still

:21:57. > :21:58.sense of community that is still strong today and they came together

:21:58. > :22:08.strong today and they came together strong today and they came together

:22:08. > :22:11.

:22:11. > :22:12.strong today and they came together to tell their story on film. It is

:22:12. > :22:13.to tell their story on film. It is to tell their story on film. It is

:22:13. > :22:15.absolute paradise, because when I absolute paradise, because when I

:22:15. > :22:16.absolute paradise, because when I absolute paradise, because when I

:22:16. > :22:18.had come from was the scullery and had come from was the scullery and

:22:18. > :22:20.had come from was the scullery and had come from was the scullery and

:22:20. > :22:21.a little room that none would be a little room that none would be

:22:22. > :22:25.a little room that none would be used. Then they were standing and

:22:25. > :22:26.used. Then they were standing and this fabulous place indoors.

:22:27. > :22:27.this fabulous place indoors. this fabulous place indoors.

:22:27. > :22:28.this fabulous place indoors. Helen Bates was part of the group

:22:28. > :22:29.Helen Bates was part of the group Helen Bates was part of the group

:22:29. > :22:35.Helen Bates was part of the group that made the film called on the

:22:35. > :22:35.that made the film called on the that made the film called on the

:22:35. > :22:37.that made the film called on the flats. They are idea was to find

:22:37. > :22:40.flats. They are idea was to find flats. They are idea was to find

:22:40. > :22:41.more about the Hyson Green flats. more about the Hyson Green flats.

:22:41. > :22:43.more about the Hyson Green flats. With their reputation, you would

:22:43. > :22:45.With their reputation, you would With their reputation, you would

:22:45. > :22:46.With their reputation, you would have think they were a kind hotbed,

:22:46. > :22:49.have think they were a kind hotbed, have think they were a kind hotbed,

:22:49. > :22:50.fill of drugs and prostitutes. But fill of drugs and prostitutes. But

:22:50. > :22:52.fill of drugs and prostitutes. But when we started doing the

:22:52. > :22:55.when we started doing the interviews, another picture totally

:22:55. > :22:57.interviews, another picture totally interviews, another picture totally

:22:57. > :22:58.emerged - many people had very emerged - many people had very

:22:58. > :23:07.emerged - many people had very happy memories of their experiences

:23:07. > :23:13.happy memories of their experiences happy memories of their experiences

:23:13. > :23:15.there. Those days were wicked.I there. Those days were wicked.I

:23:15. > :23:17.there. Those days were wicked.I there. Those days were wicked.I

:23:17. > :23:19.remember 10 of us carrying all of remember 10 of us carrying all of

:23:19. > :23:21.remember 10 of us carrying all of remember 10 of us carrying all of

:23:21. > :23:24.our were stuff. At the flats, it our were stuff. At the flats, it

:23:24. > :23:25.our were stuff. At the flats, it our were stuff. At the flats, it

:23:25. > :23:29.was a big playground. When the sun was a big playground. When the sun

:23:29. > :23:30.was a big playground. When the sun was a big playground. When the sun

:23:30. > :23:31.was shining, I was excited. In it was shining, I was excited. In it

:23:31. > :23:32.was shining, I was excited. In it was shining, I was excited. In it

:23:32. > :23:37.was like a city of its own. was like a city of its own.

:23:37. > :23:38.was like a city of its own. Everyone knew everyone. Thus the is

:23:38. > :23:39.Everyone knew everyone. Thus the is Everyone knew everyone. Thus the is

:23:39. > :23:42.the history of our work working the history of our work working

:23:42. > :23:43.the history of our work working the history of our work working

:23:43. > :23:44.classes. It is as important as any history.

:23:44. > :23:44.history. history.

:23:44. > :23:45.history. But within ten years of them being

:23:45. > :23:46.But within ten years of them being But within ten years of them being

:23:46. > :23:47.built, there were big problems. built, there were big problems.

:23:47. > :23:48.built, there were big problems. Concrete began to decay and some

:23:48. > :23:49.Concrete began to decay and some had rising damp.

:23:49. > :23:50.had rising damp. had rising damp.

:23:50. > :23:51.The council struggled to find the The council struggled to find the

:23:51. > :23:52.The council struggled to find the The council struggled to find the

:23:52. > :23:53.money to stem the tide of the ever- money to stem the tide of the ever-

:23:53. > :24:00.money to stem the tide of the ever- growing repair bills and soon the

:24:00. > :24:01.growing repair bills and soon the rot set in.

:24:01. > :24:02.rot set in. rot set in.

:24:02. > :24:03.Within a decade, tower blocks had Within a decade, tower blocks had

:24:03. > :24:03.Within a decade, tower blocks had Within a decade, tower blocks had

:24:03. > :24:04.gone from being praised to be being gone from being praised to be being

:24:04. > :24:05.branded the biggest planning branded the biggest planning

:24:06. > :24:06.blunder of our time. blunder of our time.

:24:06. > :24:07.blunder of our time. Hyson Green flats were now

:24:07. > :24:08.Hyson Green flats were now experiencing all the social

:24:08. > :24:09.experiencing all the social problems that were stigmatising

:24:09. > :24:10.problems that were stigmatising problems that were stigmatising

:24:10. > :24:11.tower blocks all over Britain and tower blocks all over Britain and

:24:11. > :24:16.tower blocks all over Britain and tower blocks all over Britain and

:24:16. > :24:18.the mood of the place began to the mood of the place began to

:24:18. > :24:20.the mood of the place began to change. There is nothing good about

:24:20. > :24:21.change. There is nothing good about change. There is nothing good about

:24:21. > :24:22.change. There is nothing good about the place any more. We may first

:24:22. > :24:23.the place any more. We may first the place any more. We may first

:24:23. > :24:25.moved in, there were good people moved in, there were good people

:24:25. > :24:28.moved in, there were good people moved in, there were good people

:24:28. > :24:29.here, but they have all moved out. here, but they have all moved out.

:24:29. > :24:30.here, but they have all moved out. here, but they have all moved out.

:24:30. > :24:32.They are just going to turn into They are just going to turn into

:24:32. > :24:33.They are just going to turn into They are just going to turn into

:24:33. > :24:34.slums and they will have the very short life.

:24:34. > :24:35.short life. short life.

:24:35. > :24:36.Despite talk of reinvestment and Despite talk of reinvestment and

:24:36. > :24:37.regeneration, the council decided regeneration, the council decided

:24:37. > :24:38.regeneration, the council decided regeneration, the council decided

:24:38. > :24:39.not to invest any more money in the not to invest any more money in the

:24:39. > :24:40.not to invest any more money in the flats and began tearing them down.

:24:40. > :24:41.flats and began tearing them down. flats and began tearing them down.

:24:41. > :24:42.flats and began tearing them down. In 1988, the Hyson Green flats were

:24:42. > :24:43.demolished. demolished.

:24:43. > :24:49.demolished. demolished.

:24:49. > :24:50.For some, it was hard to take. For some, it was hard to take.

:24:50. > :24:51.For some, it was hard to take. For some, it was hard to take.

:24:51. > :24:54.now I found out the flats were now I found out the flats were

:24:54. > :24:55.now I found out the flats were now I found out the flats were

:24:56. > :24:57.going to be knocked down, I thought, going to be knocked down, I thought,

:24:57. > :25:01.going to be knocked down, I thought, going to be knocked down, I thought,

:25:01. > :25:02.bank goes the flats, bang goes our bank goes the flats, bang goes our

:25:02. > :25:03.bank goes the flats, bang goes our bank goes the flats, bang goes our

:25:03. > :25:07.history. But in life you move on, history. But in life you move on,

:25:07. > :25:08.history. But in life you move on, history. But in life you move on,

:25:08. > :25:11.but what I learnt his that life but what I learnt his that life

:25:11. > :25:12.but what I learnt his that life could never be the same again.

:25:12. > :25:13.could never be the same again. could never be the same again.

:25:13. > :25:14.could never be the same again. In spite of all the problems, the

:25:14. > :25:15.In spite of all the problems, the In spite of all the problems, the

:25:15. > :25:15.flats experienced towards the end, flats experienced towards the end,

:25:15. > :25:16.flats experienced towards the end, that original sense of community

:25:16. > :25:17.that original sense of community that original sense of community

:25:17. > :25:19.that original sense of community has stayed in the heart of Kevin

:25:19. > :25:20.Williams. Williams.

:25:20. > :25:21.Williams. Williams.

:25:21. > :25:23.He often visits the site of the He often visits the site of the

:25:23. > :25:24.He often visits the site of the home that he still misses.

:25:24. > :25:25.home that he still misses. home that he still misses.

:25:25. > :25:26.It is now a supermarket carpark, It is now a supermarket carpark,

:25:26. > :25:26.It is now a supermarket carpark, It is now a supermarket carpark,

:25:26. > :25:35.but to Kevin, it will always be but to Kevin, it will always be

:25:35. > :25:36.but to Kevin, it will always be but to Kevin, it will always be

:25:36. > :25:39.Hyson Green flats. My flat used to Hyson Green flats. My flat used to

:25:39. > :25:40.Hyson Green flats. My flat used to Hyson Green flats. My flat used to

:25:40. > :25:42.be, I would say, roughly from where be, I would say, roughly from where

:25:42. > :25:46.be, I would say, roughly from where be, I would say, roughly from where

:25:46. > :25:55.we are standing to the edge of that we are standing to the edge of that

:25:55. > :25:56.we are standing to the edge of that we are standing to the edge of that

:25:56. > :25:57.fans. -- ought to that fence. He fans. -- ought to that fence. He

:25:58. > :25:59.fans. -- ought to that fence. He fans. -- ought to that fence. He

:25:59. > :26:00.never used to see the kids. He they never used to see the kids. He they

:26:00. > :26:01.would have the sandwiches, would have the sandwiches,

:26:01. > :26:06.would have the sandwiches, disappear in the morning and that

:26:06. > :26:07.disappear in the morning and that disappear in the morning and that

:26:07. > :26:08.disappear in the morning and that would be them. Next they knew so

:26:08. > :26:13.would be them. Next they knew so would be them. Next they knew so

:26:13. > :26:14.well, they would be half-a-mile well, they would be half-a-mile

:26:14. > :26:15.well, they would be half-a-mile away. Although by then it was

:26:15. > :26:18.away. Although by then it was away. Although by then it was

:26:18. > :26:20.turning officially into a slum, it turning officially into a slum, it

:26:20. > :26:28.turning officially into a slum, it turning officially into a slum, it

:26:28. > :26:30.was the slum that belonged to as. was the slum that belonged to as.

:26:30. > :26:30.was the slum that belonged to as. But the changes affected are people

:26:31. > :26:34.But the changes affected are people But the changes affected are people

:26:34. > :26:35.and a lot of different ways. and a lot of different ways.

:26:35. > :26:35.and a lot of different ways. and a lot of different ways.

:26:36. > :26:36.And what happened to a community at And what happened to a community at

:26:36. > :26:37.And what happened to a community at Hyson Green is happening again.

:26:37. > :26:38.Hyson Green is happening again. Hyson Green is happening again.

:26:38. > :26:39.Lenton flats have been a dominant Lenton flats have been a dominant

:26:39. > :26:40.Lenton flats have been a dominant part of Nottingham's skyline since

:26:40. > :26:41.part of Nottingham's skyline since part of Nottingham's skyline since

:26:41. > :26:42.part of Nottingham's skyline since the 1960's, but the high cost of

:26:42. > :26:43.the 1960's, but the high cost of the 1960's, but the high cost of

:26:43. > :26:44.maintaining them is more than the maintaining them is more than the

:26:44. > :26:45.maintaining them is more than the authorities want to pay and they

:26:45. > :26:55.authorities want to pay and they authorities want to pay and they

:26:55. > :26:55.

:26:55. > :26:56.are set to be demolished. are set to be demolished.

:26:56. > :26:57.are set to be demolished. Alec Hessey has lived in Lenton

:26:57. > :26:58.Alec Hessey has lived in Lenton Alec Hessey has lived in Lenton

:26:58. > :26:59.Alec Hessey has lived in Lenton flats for 15 years and is going to

:26:59. > :27:00.flats for 15 years and is going to flats for 15 years and is going to

:27:00. > :27:01.flats for 15 years and is going to be one of the last to move out

:27:01. > :27:08.be one of the last to move out be one of the last to move out

:27:08. > :27:10.before they are pulled down later before they are pulled down later

:27:10. > :27:11.before they are pulled down later before they are pulled down later

:27:11. > :27:16.this year. I could watch the sun this year. I could watch the sun

:27:16. > :27:17.this year. I could watch the sun this year. I could watch the sun

:27:17. > :27:18.coming up over there, I could see coming up over there, I could see

:27:18. > :27:19.coming up over there, I could see the massive bonfire night displays.

:27:19. > :27:21.the massive bonfire night displays. the massive bonfire night displays.

:27:21. > :27:22.the massive bonfire night displays. I could not see the sort of things

:27:22. > :27:23.I could not see the sort of things on the ground floor.

:27:23. > :27:24.on the ground floor. on the ground floor.

:27:24. > :27:25.Although he will miss the view, Although he will miss the view,

:27:25. > :27:26.Although he will miss the view, Although he will miss the view,

:27:26. > :27:33.there is one aspect of living in there is one aspect of living in

:27:33. > :27:34.there is one aspect of living in there is one aspect of living in

:27:34. > :27:35.the flats, he will not miss. I'll the flats, he will not miss. I'll

:27:35. > :27:36.the flats, he will not miss. I'll have Denny Coronation Street Style

:27:36. > :27:38.have Denny Coronation Street Style have Denny Coronation Street Style

:27:38. > :27:38.have Denny Coronation Street Style house the first, but when you were

:27:39. > :27:40.house the first, but when you were house the first, but when you were

:27:40. > :27:41.house the first, but when you were a bit ground that was fine, people

:27:41. > :27:41.a bit ground that was fine, people a bit ground that was fine, people

:27:41. > :27:42.a bit ground that was fine, people would come in and see you and ask

:27:42. > :27:44.would come in and see you and ask would come in and see you and ask

:27:44. > :27:45.if that there was anything you if that there was anything you

:27:45. > :27:48.if that there was anything you if that there was anything you

:27:48. > :27:49.wanted from the shops. That has not wanted from the shops. That has not

:27:49. > :27:50.wanted from the shops. That has not wanted from the shops. That has not

:27:50. > :27:51.happened in these flats. I do not happened in these flats. I do not

:27:51. > :27:52.happened in these flats. I do not happened in these flats. I do not

:27:52. > :27:56.even know the name of one person in even know the name of one person in

:27:56. > :27:57.these block of flats. these block of flats.

:27:57. > :27:58.these block of flats. these block of flats.

:27:58. > :27:59.Alec may not know what the future Alec may not know what the future

:27:59. > :27:59.Alec may not know what the future Alec may not know what the future

:28:00. > :28:00.holds for him, but what is certain holds for him, but what is certain

:28:01. > :28:01.holds for him, but what is certain holds for him, but what is certain

:28:01. > :28:02.is that these flats will soon be is that these flats will soon be

:28:02. > :28:03.is that these flats will soon be gone and the community dispersed.

:28:03. > :28:04.gone and the community dispersed. gone and the community dispersed.

:28:04. > :28:05.But for good or bad, towerblock But for good or bad, towerblock

:28:05. > :28:10.But for good or bad, towerblock But for good or bad, towerblock

:28:10. > :28:11.life has had an impact on the life has had an impact on the

:28:11. > :28:13.life has had an impact on the residents. And I will never forget

:28:13. > :28:23.residents. And I will never forget residents. And I will never forget

:28:23. > :28:24.

:28:24. > :28:25.residents. And I will never forget Thank you to everyone for sharing

:28:25. > :28:28.Thank you to everyone for sharing Thank you to everyone for sharing

:28:28. > :28:30.your memories. Do not forget, you your memories. Do not forget, you

:28:30. > :28:34.your memories. Do not forget, you can e-mail us at the following

:28:34. > :28:37.can e-mail us at the following can e-mail us at the following