:00:02. > :00:06.Hello, tonight Inside Out is at the University of Derby, facing up to
:00:06. > :00:14.the facts on fees. Is a degree still value for money? Alvin Hall
:00:14. > :00:19.I'm going to show you what a degree can really cost, and how you can
:00:19. > :00:23.avoid those fees altogether. meet the 6th former facing the
:00:23. > :00:27.biggest decision of his life. It has always been assumed that I'd go
:00:27. > :00:31.to university. But with the new tuition fees of �9,000 a year, it
:00:31. > :00:34.doesn't seem viable. Let's see what we can do to help. And Rosemary
:00:34. > :00:38.Conley on the growing obesity crisis.
:00:38. > :00:40.What I do really hope people realise is that if they are very
:00:40. > :00:50.overweight, morbidly obese, they are basically going to be eating
:00:50. > :01:05.
:01:05. > :01:07.Inside Out has discovered that as many as one in 10 A-level students
:01:08. > :01:12.have been put off university by next year's increase in tuition
:01:12. > :01:14.fees. In a specially commissioned survey, more than 1,000 16 to 18-
:01:15. > :01:21.year-olds were interviewed, and almost half said they were starting
:01:21. > :01:31.to look at cheaper options abroad. We asked financial guru Alvin Hall
:01:31. > :01:35.
:01:35. > :01:38.to crunch the numbers, to find out Young, confused and afraid. This is
:01:38. > :01:48.what thousands of teenagers across England fear - a lifetime on the
:01:48. > :01:51.
:01:51. > :01:55.run. But what's chasing them? But is it really going to be the
:01:55. > :01:58.horror movie that we have been led to believe? Whether you think next
:01:58. > :02:01.year's hike in fees is fair or not, it's happening. So young people
:02:01. > :02:07.need to know the facts. I'm going to show you what a degree can
:02:07. > :02:11.really cost, and how you can avoid those fees altogether. Next year,
:02:11. > :02:18.English universities will charge up to �9,000 a year. With living costs
:02:18. > :02:22.on top, graduates can face debts of around �50,000. But how much will
:02:22. > :02:27.they actually end up paying back? Well, I've come to meet some sixth-
:02:27. > :02:30.formers in Birmingham to show them. I think the number is going to
:02:31. > :02:34.shock them. I think that earning interest over such a long time as
:02:34. > :02:38.you're paying back that loan really is a number that most people don't
:02:38. > :02:42.think about. Let's imagine that you graduate from university with
:02:42. > :02:50.�50,000 worth of debt. And you get a high-paying job, like we expect
:02:50. > :02:57.Jacob here will get. How much of that money do you have to pay back?
:02:57. > :03:07.I'm not quite sure, but is it all of it? All of it and more!
:03:07. > :03:10.
:03:10. > :03:16.interest! Interest. "Oh, God", is right! �75,000! Is that just for
:03:16. > :03:20.one person? That's just for one person. That is horrible. That's
:03:20. > :03:24.really bad. Is that just for the average degree of three years?
:03:24. > :03:27.you take out the maximum loan. But what if, for some reason, their
:03:27. > :03:36.careers don't go as planned and they never earn more than �21,000 a
:03:37. > :03:45.year? The amount you have to pay back is... Zero. So what's going
:03:45. > :03:51.on? Basically, the repayment of the loan works like taxes. The more you
:03:51. > :03:56.earn, the more you pay back. If you never earn above a certain amount,
:03:56. > :04:01.then you never pay back a penny. The new independent task force on
:04:02. > :04:04.student finance is led by Martin Lewis. The biggest confusion out
:04:04. > :04:11.there quite simply is people confuse the price tag, these �9,000
:04:11. > :04:15.fees, a total of �15,000, with the actual cost. This is a very, very
:04:15. > :04:20.different type of system. Many people won't come close to repaying
:04:20. > :04:23.in full what they borrowed. Some won't repay anything at all. And
:04:23. > :04:26.the bewildering fact that we are putting people off going to
:04:26. > :04:32.university because they're looking at the price tag, not the cost, is
:04:32. > :04:36.the biggest problem to me. But most graduates will face large debt. So
:04:36. > :04:40.is there any way of avoiding the fees? Well, yes. You can study
:04:40. > :04:45.abroad. At the recent Student World Fair in London, teenagers
:04:45. > :04:51.discovered just how much they can save. I think everyone would rather
:04:51. > :04:54.go to university where they pay �8,000 cheaper than in the UK.
:04:54. > :04:58.fees are a lot cheaper, that is more attractive, so when you come
:04:58. > :05:02.out, it's not going to be so much debt. In fact, dozens of
:05:02. > :05:08.universities across Europe offer courses taught in English. The fees
:05:08. > :05:11.differ from country to country, but in Scandinavia, tuition is free.
:05:11. > :05:14.Denmark, we have no tuition fees at all, because the Danish government
:05:14. > :05:21.pays for Danish students, and according to EU rules, we have to
:05:21. > :05:29.treat other EU citizens alike. Harriet Moore has already taken the
:05:29. > :05:33.plunge. She is off back to uni in Slovakia. I'm trying to save money
:05:33. > :05:39.on flights, so hand-luggage it is! Over there, she saves a fortune on
:05:39. > :05:43.living costs, spending just �100 a month. I caught up with her via
:05:43. > :05:48.Webcam. What would be the piece of advice you'd give to anyone
:05:48. > :05:53.considering doing what you have done? I think if you're even
:05:53. > :05:57.considering it, you should go for it, definitely. It's worth doing,
:05:58. > :06:07.just get on the plane. You have to be a bit brave, the first plane
:06:08. > :06:13.
:06:13. > :06:22.journey over, but I never looked "Time's up. I want my money. I want
:06:22. > :06:25.my 50 grand!". So studying overseas may be one way to avoid the debt.
:06:25. > :06:31.But there are downsides. If you study abroad, the government here
:06:31. > :06:34.won't make you a loan. Only some of the courses are taught in English.
:06:34. > :06:39.And some employers might not recognise foreign degrees. So you
:06:39. > :06:43.need to do your homework. Another way of beating the fees is to get
:06:43. > :06:49.someone else to pay. But who? Well, London's financial heartland is a
:06:49. > :06:52.good place to look. Don't be fooled by the power suits. Believe it or
:06:53. > :07:00.not, these youngsters are all freshers. They're being sponsored
:07:00. > :07:08.by accountancy giant KPMG. entire package was a degree, a
:07:08. > :07:10.salary, the tuition fees were paid, and a job at the end. And you
:07:11. > :07:15.obviously were helped to become a qualified and chartered accountant.
:07:15. > :07:19.Did it sound too good to be true? Did you suspect a catch? I don't
:07:19. > :07:25.think there is a catch. As with everything in life, you have to
:07:25. > :07:27.work hard, and that's the only catch, I guess. And the man who
:07:27. > :07:34.runs the programme tells me KPMG doesn't offer the stereotypical
:07:34. > :07:38.student experience. This is an extremely intensive programme.
:07:38. > :07:41.They've got to work for us, study for their degree, and they have
:07:41. > :07:44.also got to obtain their qualification in 10 years. That
:07:44. > :07:51.will require hard work, that's all we really ask of the students who
:07:51. > :07:54.are joining us. And then there are bursaries. Students from low income
:07:54. > :08:01.families can get money from various sources, so it's worth trawling the
:08:01. > :08:11.web. But is there another way of avoiding the debt? Well, you can
:08:11. > :08:14.pay up front. 16-year-old Safina Adam is trying to do just that. As
:08:14. > :08:20.well as studying for her A-levels, she sells beauty products on her
:08:21. > :08:23.website. I formed my business because I wanted to save up for
:08:23. > :08:29.university, and my parents said because of the rising prices of
:08:29. > :08:33.university fees, it would be too much for them to pay for it. I'm
:08:33. > :08:39.hoping to not get in debt, because I know it takes a long while to get
:08:39. > :08:43.out of debt, and I don't want to be in that place. The government
:08:43. > :08:45.allows students to pay up front, but most WILL have to take out a
:08:45. > :08:54.loan. But one financial expert believes that graduates could end
:08:54. > :09:01.up paying back far more than anyone has predicted. Financial journalist
:09:01. > :09:05.William Cullerne Bown is warning students to be aware. I think the
:09:05. > :09:08.problem is that the deal is actually not a deal. There are all
:09:08. > :09:11.these numbers flying about, saying that you will be charged a certain
:09:11. > :09:14.rate of interest on the loan, that your repayments will start at
:09:14. > :09:17.�21,000, over that, you'll be paying a certain percentage. But
:09:17. > :09:22.none of those parameters are in the contract that the student signs up
:09:22. > :09:25.for. And in fact, the government can change those numbers if it
:09:25. > :09:32.wants to in five years' time, 10 years' time, 20 years' time, 30
:09:32. > :09:37.years' time. So students could end up paying a lot more. But any big
:09:37. > :09:40.changes would have to be approved by Parliament. Like many Americans,
:09:40. > :09:46.I graduated with the equivalent of the tens of thousands of pounds'
:09:46. > :09:56.worth of debt. It was daunting. But if you know the facts, student debt
:09:56. > :10:03.
:10:03. > :10:08.doesn't have to be scary. I Coming up, 40 years of fighting the
:10:08. > :10:12.flab. Rosemary Conley on the obesity crisis. If you do exercise,
:10:12. > :10:22.it's like taking a pill to make you well. Fitness is absolutely crucial
:10:22. > :10:23.
:10:23. > :10:26.for our ongoing health in the So is a university degree worth the
:10:26. > :10:31.money, especially in the current climate when there is no guarantee
:10:31. > :10:34.of a job at the end of it all? Latest figures show that graduates
:10:34. > :10:37.here in the East Midlands earn less per hour than anywhere else in the
:10:37. > :10:47.UK, and as I've been finding out, that is making higher education an
:10:47. > :10:51.
:10:52. > :10:56.even tougher decision for some of Tom James is 17, and facing the
:10:56. > :10:59.biggest decision of his life. He has worked on his father's farm
:10:59. > :11:03.since he was old enough to hold a bucket, but he dreams of running
:11:04. > :11:09.his own business. Now he has got to decide whether to join the crowd
:11:09. > :11:12.and apply to university, when fees for his year group have tripled.
:11:12. > :11:17.I've always been quite clever throughout my schooling, and it has
:11:17. > :11:22.always been assumed that I would go to university. But with the tuition
:11:22. > :11:25.fees, I'm really not sure. I guess you need to find out whether it is
:11:25. > :11:30.going to be worth it for you in the long term. Exactly. The thing I
:11:30. > :11:32.look at is a job at the end of it, getting on the job ladder. You need
:11:32. > :11:42.a bit more information perhaps. Definitely. Let's see what we can
:11:42. > :11:48.
:11:48. > :11:51.It's graduation day at the Got our degrees! For these students,
:11:51. > :11:54.though, the end of studying means the start of some hard thinking, as
:11:54. > :12:01.the reality of the highest graduate unemployment rates since the mid-
:12:02. > :12:04.There's a level of uncertainty, because although a lot of people
:12:04. > :12:10.are getting the degrees, they may not be getting jobs immediately
:12:10. > :12:13.afterwards. Suddenly people are going to university and getting
:12:13. > :12:17.good degrees, they almost becoming less valuable, in a sense. Everyone
:12:17. > :12:20.is aware of it, struggling to find work. If you were going in next
:12:20. > :12:24.year, you would probably need to think more about what degree you
:12:24. > :12:27.want to do. Last year, 91 per cent of Leicester University students
:12:28. > :12:30.got a job, but overall, the latest statistics show a fifth of UK
:12:30. > :12:40.graduates will earn less than someone who left school with A-
:12:40. > :12:42.levels. And next year, courses here will triple in price, to �9,000. De
:12:42. > :12:46.Montfort University, the University of Nottingham and Loughborough
:12:46. > :12:49.University are all charging the same. Nottingham Trent courses will
:12:49. > :12:56.cost �8,500, while the University of Derby have set a sliding tariff
:12:56. > :13:00.of between �7,000 and �9,000, depending on your course. That's
:13:00. > :13:05.just in tuition fees. Then there's food, rent, books. A three-year
:13:05. > :13:11.degree course could put you more than �15,000 in the red. No wonder
:13:11. > :13:15.sixth-formers asking, is it worth it? What we're doing this week is
:13:15. > :13:17.continuing with the UCAS and personal statements. At Bilborough
:13:17. > :13:21.College in Nottingham, most of Tom's friends are filling in their
:13:21. > :13:26.application forms. Tom wants to study accounting, so will a
:13:26. > :13:29.university degree guarantee him a job? The published figures show 40
:13:29. > :13:31.per cent of students who have studied accounting at De Montfort
:13:31. > :13:39.went into graduate level employment, compared to 90 per cent of
:13:39. > :13:42.accounting graduates at Loughborough University. What is
:13:42. > :13:46.everyone around you telling you that you should do? Everybody is
:13:46. > :13:49.saying go to university, because everybody thinks I'm quite clever.
:13:49. > :13:54.I don't think they really know too much about the whole tuition fees
:13:54. > :13:56.and the extent of it. It's unbelievable, the amount of stress
:13:56. > :14:01.it's causing for students at this particular time, because they've
:14:01. > :14:04.never had to think so much about it. Not only thinking about if they are
:14:04. > :14:08.going to university, which university, but what are the other
:14:08. > :14:15.options. So for students, it's a huge choice, and it's really
:14:15. > :14:18.changing the advice that I give Freshers' Week at the University of
:14:18. > :14:22.Leicester, because of next year's price hike, there has been a rush
:14:22. > :14:25.for places. The university has been researching the likely impact of
:14:25. > :14:30.higher fees. Their model suggests that in future universities are
:14:30. > :14:34.going to have to compete for students as never before. What we
:14:34. > :14:38.are seeing is the biggest change in higher education for the last 50
:14:38. > :14:41.years, possibly longer. Universities in the region that had
:14:41. > :14:43.a strong record, that can demonstrate a really good quality
:14:43. > :14:46.of teaching, will fare well, our model suggests that universities
:14:46. > :14:56.that do not have the strong reputation will struggle to recruit
:14:56. > :14:57.
:14:57. > :15:00.at very high fee levels. Back in Nottingham, Tom has decided that
:15:00. > :15:10.the best way to make a informed decision about university is to
:15:10. > :15:10.
:15:10. > :15:12.visit one. First Stop, a talk about finances. The University of
:15:12. > :15:18.Nottingham will be charging graduate students �9,000-a-year
:15:18. > :15:28.from 2012. There are some grants that students can get. Grants do
:15:28. > :15:34.
:15:34. > :15:37.not have to be paid back, Horay. They are means tested. We just did
:15:37. > :15:41.the talk about finances, it was interesting to see, there is a lot
:15:41. > :15:44.of help you can get with bursaries. There is a lot of bad press about
:15:44. > :15:47.the �9,000 a year tuition fees. With bursaries, it does not seem as
:15:47. > :15:50.bad as I first thought. Every university has to publish a range
:15:50. > :15:54.of facts and figures about how satisfied their students are with
:15:54. > :15:58.their course, and how graduates find jobs. To make sure it is a
:15:58. > :16:03.fair comparison, they use the same questionnaire to poll them. Those
:16:03. > :16:06.statistics have been under more scrutiny. Even here, one of the
:16:06. > :16:09.UK's most popular universities, with 10 applicants for every place,
:16:09. > :16:19.there is a big gap between the top courses, and those with lowest
:16:19. > :16:19.
:16:19. > :16:22.levels. Market levels only work when everyone knows information for
:16:23. > :16:25.the products that they are going to buy. That is quite difficult for
:16:26. > :16:29.students to get not least because they are deciding whether they are
:16:29. > :16:39.going to get a job at the end of this, something that is going to
:16:39. > :16:42.
:16:42. > :16:47.happen for five years down the track. The market is changing.
:16:47. > :16:51.Melton Market, hard facts and figures are what counts. This is
:16:51. > :16:59.how Tom got his appetite for real world maths. He was helping his dad
:16:59. > :17:07.with the farm accounts. I enjoy the business side of it, academically I
:17:07. > :17:12.did business studies, you do not learn the stuff. If he goes to
:17:12. > :17:15.university, he will be the first of his family to get a degree. What
:17:15. > :17:20.you think about these �9,000 fees and the dilemma that your son has
:17:20. > :17:27.found himself? It is terrible having to find all this money just
:17:27. > :17:33.to go to university. He has tried so hard at school. It is not a
:17:33. > :17:38.dilemma that you had. No, that my life was mapped out for me. Do you
:17:38. > :17:42.think you should go? Yes, to fulfil his potential. It is a lot of money
:17:42. > :17:49.isn't it. I read that it is �57,000 by the end the University, it is
:17:49. > :17:54.extortionate amount of money. Ideally, what would you like to do?
:17:54. > :17:59.I would like to earn while I'm learning, getting paid by a company.
:17:59. > :18:09.You get experience on the job. is trying alternative, he is giving
:18:09. > :18:10.
:18:10. > :18:17.up part of his summer holiday to attend a four-day taster course.
:18:17. > :18:20.Interest rates, and revenue. It seems a lot of money. A lot of
:18:20. > :18:24.people are not aware that employers are looking for school leavers to
:18:24. > :18:29.start apprenticeships. It is not just in mechanics, it is
:18:29. > :18:34.accountancy. That is the new electricity bill. It is definitely
:18:34. > :18:42.helping. I have always be quite narrow-minded. I always thought I
:18:42. > :18:48.would be an accountant. The thing we must consider now to take on
:18:48. > :18:52.that debt, it will cost them over �100,000 to pay back. If you want
:18:52. > :18:57.to get into work, you're not going to take any of bad debt on, you'll
:18:57. > :19:03.start learning from the age of 16. The thing is at university, you are
:19:03. > :19:13.still in debt. If you come to an apprenticeship, you are already on
:19:13. > :19:18.the work ladder. You got to show enthusiasm for the cause that
:19:18. > :19:21.you're applying for. The employment is such an emphasis at the moment.
:19:21. > :19:28.What you do at the end? Ultimately, graduation is the aim. The deadline
:19:28. > :19:32.for some university applications is leaving. Tom has made a decision.
:19:32. > :19:38.You have seen what is on offer, you are seen all the facts and figures,
:19:38. > :19:44.what is it going to be? It is going to the apprenticeship for me.
:19:44. > :19:51.university. You better get applying. Good luck. We wish to the very best.
:19:51. > :19:55.It is very hard out there, I'm sure you'll do very well.
:19:55. > :20:00.This month Government announced a strategy to tackle obesity. They
:20:00. > :20:02.want people to take responsibility for the things that they eat. That
:20:02. > :20:12.is something that fitness guru Rosemary Conley has been preaching
:20:12. > :20:12.
:20:12. > :20:15.to 40 years. Still obesity grows. Is advice and encouragement enough?
:20:15. > :20:25.There was a time when being fat was easily ridiculed. If you're
:20:25. > :20:26.
:20:26. > :20:29.overweight, you stood out. Not any more. The frightening thing is that
:20:29. > :20:33.we now see someone who is there perhaps two stone overweight, as we
:20:33. > :20:43.would ever thought 10 years ago, now we thinkt, they do not look too
:20:43. > :20:46.
:20:46. > :20:49.bad. And what does it do to you if you are obese? I got told that I
:20:49. > :20:58.would end up in a wheelchair, or I would not see my children get
:20:58. > :21:01.married. I decided that I needed to lose the weight to have a life.
:21:01. > :21:09.Obesity related illness is becoming one of the biggest costs on the NHS,
:21:09. > :21:11.we need to do something about it. We had everything wrong with our
:21:11. > :21:21.food system, we need better responsibility, you cannot pass the
:21:21. > :21:22.
:21:22. > :21:29.buck. For 40 years Rosemary Conley has been a leading light in trying
:21:29. > :21:32.to get the nation healthier. It all began in a Leicestershire kitchen.
:21:32. > :21:41.We lost six stone in six weeks, with that success we went to the
:21:41. > :21:49.local village, that is where it grew from. Now she has a kitchen
:21:49. > :21:52.that is a TV studio. It is on the internet, only on the internet.
:21:52. > :21:59.is a multi-million-pound business, built on the enormous success of a
:21:59. > :22:02.book. The Hip and Thigh Diet. tried the Hip and Thigh Diet, and
:22:02. > :22:09.there was a trial at the University of Leicester, they went on trial
:22:09. > :22:14.for eight weeks, the results were absolutely astonishing. People were
:22:14. > :22:24.losing 2 inches of each thigh. book went to number one, it stayed
:22:24. > :22:24.
:22:24. > :22:30.at number one almost one year. was extraordinary. At one point she
:22:30. > :22:40.dominated the bestseller lists. Welcome Rosemary Conley. She was a
:22:40. > :22:45.
:22:45. > :22:55.celebrity, she was celebrated. Rosemary Conley, this is your life.
:22:55. > :22:55.
:22:55. > :23:01.Welcome to Thursday's diet and fitness club. There was, and is
:23:01. > :23:11.clearly an appetite for getting fit. Where as a nation did we get it so
:23:11. > :23:18.
:23:18. > :23:22.wrong, to become so fat, and is so Why is it getting worse? We already
:23:22. > :23:24.know that two thirds of adults and children are overweight, or a beast.
:23:24. > :23:28.The British had been first in showing the cataclysmic costs in
:23:28. > :23:34.terms of illness. We cannot afford, no country can afford to cope with
:23:34. > :23:39.this programme, unless they take radical measures. It is not a new
:23:39. > :23:49.phenomenon, the Americans got there first. Rationing and a spin-off the
:23:49. > :23:51.
:23:51. > :23:58.World War Two. Candid camera proved that the average woman is not the
:23:59. > :24:04.sylph-like thing that television would have us believe. In the early
:24:04. > :24:08.1960s we started to put on collective weight. There were
:24:08. > :24:12.bizarre ways of dealing with it. They are experimenting with
:24:12. > :24:17.equipment that can measure the fat content inside the body. The
:24:17. > :24:22.patient breathes air of a mildly radioactive gas. Doctors can
:24:22. > :24:26.estimate the amount of fat present. This measuring apparatus is the
:24:26. > :24:35.only one in the world, it could be the cure for tubby hubbies, and
:24:35. > :24:42.bulging brides. Getting back to the America in the 1930s, they are
:24:42. > :24:51.exercising, that was what raised my colleague recognised early on.
:24:51. > :24:56.Exercise and a good diet, but organised. Very well organised and
:24:56. > :25:01.now that many franchises are using her methods. There are always new
:25:01. > :25:11.ways of getting a message across. We are all aware of the pains that
:25:11. > :25:15.
:25:15. > :25:18.the average woman goes through in Years ago physical jerks were
:25:18. > :25:21.practised by only the few, today there any part of what has become a
:25:21. > :25:24.highly organised phenomenon, as double chins and Crow's feet. It
:25:24. > :25:33.was all aimed at getting the fat off, making women look and feel
:25:33. > :25:39.good. The mask makes way for a facial up lift. That is still big
:25:40. > :25:46.business today. It is no longer for the elite. This is the Vitality
:25:46. > :25:51.show at Earls Court in London. Guess who is here. Is this the kind
:25:51. > :25:55.of world that you inhabit now. is a big exhibition brass. It is
:25:55. > :25:58.very hard work, we are here for four days. We have loads of our
:25:58. > :26:04.members come here. We had a lady come here, she has lost 16 stones.
:26:04. > :26:08.It is incredible, it is just beautiful. It is lovely to meet
:26:09. > :26:17.Rosemary Conley. She means the world to me, she showed the -- to
:26:17. > :26:21.save my life. For every one of the hundreds that she has helped, there
:26:21. > :26:26.has been a point where they realise that they needed help. For Nicola
:26:26. > :26:32.it was her young daughter. She sat on my lap and said money, your
:26:32. > :26:36.tummy is too big for me to cuddle. That was it. I looked at myself in
:26:36. > :26:46.the mirror, and thought, what am I doing to myself? I could die before
:26:46. > :26:46.
:26:46. > :26:49.I see her grow up. It is the benefits of good health which are
:26:49. > :26:51.pressed home. The latest government initiative to combat obesity is
:26:51. > :26:55.encouraging personal responsibility for how we eat. There are experts
:26:55. > :27:05.who want the government to go further, they say that junk food is
:27:05. > :27:07.
:27:07. > :27:10.to blame. It has been clearly shown that if you take personal
:27:10. > :27:13.responsibility, make changes, we are highly educated, we know that
:27:13. > :27:21.obesity in children and adults is a bigger problem in the poorer
:27:21. > :27:24.members of society. They are stumbling, trying to feed their
:27:24. > :27:34.families, and in fact the junk-food it is the cheapest food available.
:27:34. > :27:36.
:27:36. > :27:41.That is everything wrong with our food system. It took 40 years for
:27:41. > :27:47.the government to change our mind set. I hope it will not take as
:27:47. > :27:50.long as far as obesity, food, and drink is concerned. I do hope that
:27:50. > :27:56.people realise that if they are very overweight, morbidly obese,
:27:56. > :27:59.they are going to be eating themselves to an early grave.
:27:59. > :28:08.down the same road as cigarettes with junk food would see taxed
:28:08. > :28:18.heavily, with warning signs, an advertising ban. That is not about
:28:18. > :28:22.to happen. That is where we leave it for this
:28:22. > :28:25.week, from the University of Derby, goodbye and see you next Monday.
:28:25. > :28:29.Next week, parents are under pressure as a review into heart