:00:00. > :00:00.We have the shocking findings of an undercover investigation
:00:00. > :00:10.into the availability of illegal products and services online.
:00:11. > :00:13.For the last six months, we've been looking at craigslist -
:00:14. > :00:15.the classified ads website that is being hijacked by criminals
:00:16. > :00:24.If you look out there, there's a camera.
:00:25. > :00:29.I'd like to know, mate, why you're offering...
:00:30. > :00:36.Oh, my God, my mother's going to kill me.
:00:37. > :00:39.We follow a recovering anorexic as he speaks to young people
:00:40. > :00:42.That's what you're probably expecting, a girl to be stood here.
:00:43. > :00:44.But actually it's quite common for people male,
:00:45. > :00:51.female, even different ages to get eating disorders.
:00:52. > :00:53.And the top-secret location for the BBC orchestras
:00:54. > :00:58.during the war, after evacuation plans moved all 400 musicians
:00:59. > :01:04.Revealing the stories that matter closer to home,
:01:05. > :01:23.So what do you hunt the classified ads for?
:01:24. > :01:27.Well, Jonathan Gibson has been sniffing around in Corby
:01:28. > :01:30.as he investigates one online site where criminals have an eye
:01:31. > :01:39.As an investigative journalist, it s sometimes easier to work
:01:40. > :01:46.When people aren t watching what you re doing!
:01:47. > :01:51.If you re looking for something illegal, it s the go-to part
:01:52. > :01:58.of the internet that s hidden from prying eyes.
:01:59. > :02:00.The place where criminals use encrypted websites and virtual
:02:01. > :02:08.You don t need to bother with all that, mate!
:02:09. > :02:17.Shouldn t you be getting on with the...
:02:18. > :02:37.It was set up in America by a guy called Craig.
:02:38. > :02:40.It s a website where people buy and sell everything,
:02:41. > :02:46.Just say where you live and get started.
:02:47. > :02:49.But lots of the stuff on craigslist won t be in the buy-and-sell section
:02:50. > :02:55.of your local newspaper, including bootleg tobacco.
:02:56. > :02:57.The kind of cigs you d probably buy from some dodgy
:02:58. > :03:00.geezer outside a pub, or in this case, a supermarket
:03:01. > :03:08.So are they knocked off then, or are they...?
:03:09. > :03:13.No, no, no so they re old packaging, but they can t really sell
:03:14. > :03:28.He says his supplier is someone else on craigslist.
:03:29. > :03:32.I ve seen some crazy stuff on craigslist? So have I.
:03:33. > :03:37.That s why I ve come to another car park ready for another dodgy deal.
:03:38. > :03:44.And that s why his tobacco is just a third of the price
:03:45. > :03:57.But there is a difference because counterfeit goods are among
:03:58. > :04:00.the things craigslist says you re not supposed to sell on its website.
:04:01. > :04:06.Yeah, but no one takes any notice of that!
:04:07. > :04:16.It s as easy to find marijuana on craigslist
:04:17. > :04:22.And you might need a seat because what I m buying next
:04:23. > :04:28.I m on a Derby estate to meet a dealer selling
:04:29. > :04:44.Turns out, as street cocaine goes, it s pretty pure stuff.
:04:45. > :04:51.I m shocked at what s there because it s not difficult
:04:52. > :04:53.for the internet companies to put elements onto their websites
:04:54. > :04:56.to police this sort of stuff and they should be policing it
:04:57. > :05:02.But if you have made money from crime, you won t want
:05:03. > :05:09.So what you need is someone to hide it, perhaps in their bank account.
:05:10. > :05:17.But where would I find someone to do that?
:05:18. > :05:21.On a street corner, I m meeting Stacey.
:05:22. > :05:24.She s offering her bank account on craigslist to anyone
:05:25. > :05:27.So you know it s kind of dodgy money?
:05:28. > :05:36.But we are walking into the bank to pay in what I ve told her
:05:37. > :05:41.She ll charge me a fee to get it back and there are plenty of people
:05:42. > :05:43.on craigslist offering to do the same thing, sometimes
:05:44. > :05:50.But if you ve sent your money overseas, how are you
:05:51. > :05:54.Well, what you need is a new identity, or someone else s!
:05:55. > :05:59.And I know just the place you can get it!
:06:00. > :06:13.Craigslist - the place where I can find a stolen passport.
:06:14. > :06:17.And there are plenty more where that came from.
:06:18. > :06:25.I do them bank fraud things and we take the holder's IDs off
:06:26. > :06:27.I ve known some stories where it s taken people 10 years
:06:28. > :06:31.to get their credit ratings back again after it s been completely
:06:32. > :06:33.trashed by people who have stolen their identities,
:06:34. > :06:36.but it will allow them to get on and commit other crimes,
:06:37. > :06:45.This advert is looking for postmen to steal the letters they re
:06:46. > :06:50.It s bank cards, cheques, a lot of different things.
:06:51. > :06:53.On craigslist there s also disorganised crime.
:06:54. > :06:58.This guy wants someone to pass his driving theory test for him.
:06:59. > :07:08.But for 50 quid, it s not that black and white.
:07:09. > :07:15.For a start, he s black and I m white and someone s going to notice.
:07:16. > :07:20.Well, they check your photo against the database.
:07:21. > :07:23.There s no way I m going to get through.
:07:24. > :07:29.You go in now or you re going to lose your test fee.
:07:30. > :07:31.When I later revealed I m a journalist, he didn t
:07:32. > :07:47.In fact, when we asked it for an interview,
:07:48. > :07:50.I think whilst they re making money and nobody is asking them
:07:51. > :07:53.or forcing them to change, you ll find selling sites like this
:07:54. > :07:55.using the ostrich effect to what is going on -
:07:56. > :07:59.sticking their head in the sand and ignoring it.
:08:00. > :08:01.No wonder criminals can carry on regardless.
:08:02. > :08:03.Well, unless they re really selling to a journalist.
:08:04. > :08:07.If you look out there, there s a camera.
:08:08. > :08:14.I d like to know, mate, why you re offering to sell...
:08:15. > :08:22.Oh, my God, my mother s going to kill me.
:08:23. > :08:24.But he s not the only one thinking about his relatives.
:08:25. > :08:29.I m trying to make money for my family.
:08:30. > :08:34.Take a good look at my cocaine dealer because he s
:08:35. > :08:38.The thing is, I work for the BBC and we re trying to find out why
:08:39. > :08:54.Well, he wasn t hanging about was he?
:08:55. > :09:07.I m trying to find out why you re willing to launder money for people?
:09:08. > :09:09.You knew it was risky because we just had
:09:10. > :09:18.I m not buying a passport off you because I work for the BBC.
:09:19. > :09:20.Why are you selling stolen passports, mate,
:09:21. > :09:28.Why are you selling stolen passports?
:09:29. > :09:31.The amount of organised crime that is sitting behind everything
:09:32. > :09:37.And it s critical, I think, that the police force or the law
:09:38. > :09:40.enforcement agencies force the likes of craigslist to do
:09:41. > :09:50.When we asked to interview a minister all we got
:09:51. > :09:58.was a Home Office statement saying it's:
:09:59. > :10:00.Well, we ve kind of done that for them already.
:10:01. > :10:05.So maybe it s time the Government forced websites like craigslist
:10:06. > :10:15.And if there is something you think we should be looking into,
:10:16. > :10:17.get in touch with me, as ever, on twitter
:10:18. > :10:21.@david-insideout, or e-mail david.whiteley@bbc.co.uk.
:10:22. > :10:25.You're watching Inside Out for the East of England here on BBC One.
:10:26. > :10:26.Later on: Performing throughout the war -
:10:27. > :10:29.the orchestras at a secret location broadcasting to the Empire.
:10:30. > :10:37.So to have this as the biggest centre of the BBC outside London
:10:38. > :10:39.was certainly quite amazing, and would have been very
:10:40. > :10:50.Earlier this year, it was revealed that the number of men being treated
:10:51. > :10:53.for an eating disorder has grown twice as fast as women
:10:54. > :10:58.Now a charity based in Norfolk gets people like Jamie, who had anorexia,
:10:59. > :11:01.to go into schools and speak to young people about
:11:02. > :11:22.In fact, he works at a horse sanctuary.
:11:23. > :11:28.If I m stressed or anything like that, I can go and sit with them.
:11:29. > :11:31.They don t judge you, they don t care what you look like,
:11:32. > :11:38.Looking at Jamie, he s fit and healthy.
:11:39. > :11:41.But ten years ago it was a very different story.
:11:42. > :11:46.When he was at school, he had an eating disorder.
:11:47. > :11:51.The main reasons I feel that I started developing anorexia
:11:52. > :11:56.is because when I was at school I experienced a lot of bullying.
:11:57. > :12:00.So it really affected my self-confidence and stuff like that.
:12:01. > :12:04.What kind of things were happening when you were being bullied?
:12:05. > :12:07.It was mostly things like my appearance, my voice.
:12:08. > :12:11.They would try and pick anything, to pick at me.
:12:12. > :12:16.I was very shy and had a lack of self-confidence.
:12:17. > :12:18.I had friends, but I wouldn t socialize.
:12:19. > :12:26.I went more introverted so I didn t really want to speak to people.
:12:27. > :12:29.For you, controlling what you were eating or not eating,
:12:30. > :12:33.was that the way of you getting some kind of control back in your life?
:12:34. > :12:36.I didn t really want to eat anything.
:12:37. > :12:39.But it wasn t until my parents noticed, that it then
:12:40. > :12:41.clicked what it was, because I didn t really know
:12:42. > :12:51.So it wasn t something that I's purposefully decided to do.
:12:52. > :12:54.What age were you when you started developing anorexia?
:12:55. > :12:59.I ve always been quite fussy with food since I was little,
:13:00. > :13:15.The number of men receiving help for an eating disorder in England
:13:16. > :13:18.has grown twice as fast as women in the last three years.
:13:19. > :13:21.This is the headquarters of Beat - a charity that helps people
:13:22. > :13:27.We've certainly seen from statistics from the NHS the number of men
:13:28. > :13:30.and boys being admitted for an eating disorder
:13:31. > :13:33.has risen and we do get a significant of number of people
:13:34. > :13:36.contacting our helpline, either themselves or maybe
:13:37. > :13:38.their girlfriends who are worried about them, their mums
:13:39. > :13:41.who are worried about them, and also we have opened some
:13:42. > :13:43.new services that are online services to, hopefully, encourage
:13:44. > :13:46.more men to come forward because we know that's a way
:13:47. > :13:49.they are more comfortable talking about things.
:13:50. > :13:52.Obviously, as time has gone by, the stigma is being broken down
:13:53. > :13:55.over eating disorders, but do you still think there is one,
:13:56. > :13:58.there is a stigma there for men, young men in particular,
:13:59. > :14:01.who don't want to say, "Look, I may have an issue here"?
:14:02. > :14:04.Stereotypically, eating disorders are considered to be
:14:05. > :14:06.female illnesses, and that is something that is very
:14:07. > :14:10.They are seen as young, white, female teenage girls,
:14:11. > :14:14.and that is the only people who get them, but we know that is not
:14:15. > :14:17.Particularly with boys, they might have different pressures to girls.
:14:18. > :14:21.We know that increasingly we look in the media and we see men
:14:22. > :14:24.are having increased pressure to look good and feel good
:14:25. > :14:28.in a different way to how women are, so we know it can be very,
:14:29. > :14:31.very difficult for men to come forward and talk about the issues
:14:32. > :14:35.And that's why with some young men and teenage boys anorexia
:14:36. > :14:42.Do you think if people had seen you at the time people
:14:43. > :14:50.Most eating disorders are very discreet and quite hidden.
:14:51. > :14:54.You don t tend to want anyone to know.
:14:55. > :14:56.I didn t know myself, so I couldn't really
:14:57. > :15:02.Once the doctor had said, "Yes, Jamie has anorexia",
:15:03. > :15:09.I think it shocked me, because I hadn t thought
:15:10. > :15:23.It made me think, "Well, people can die from it".
:15:24. > :15:25.I didn t want to die, so it made that shock realization
:15:26. > :15:35.Do you feel there's a stigma surrounding, certainly young men
:15:36. > :15:37.and male teenagers, when it comes to anorexia and other
:15:38. > :15:48.which has been going on for a while, but they re only now
:15:49. > :15:56.He has a very supportive family who spotted something was wrong.
:15:57. > :15:59.He got to, like, high school and I started to think,
:16:00. > :16:02."I think he's losing a bit of weight".
:16:03. > :16:09.At meal times he was very selective on what he would
:16:10. > :16:14.So I thought I would have a little chat with him, but to start
:16:15. > :16:19.with he just pushed it off, and what have you.
:16:20. > :16:23.But then, eventually, I did get him to talk
:16:24. > :16:28.and there was an issue, but I didn't realise
:16:29. > :16:31.In the beginning, I didn't realise the things...
:16:32. > :16:36.selling food at school to have a hot chocolate instead of eating his
:16:37. > :16:39.lunch, because he always used to bring an empty lunchbox home.
:16:40. > :16:42.I suppose with him being a boy, I'd never really heard of boys
:16:43. > :16:54.As part of Jamie's continuing recovery, he speaks to young people
:16:55. > :17:00.Today, he has come to Framingham Earl High School in Norfolk.
:17:01. > :17:03.There is a lot of different misconceptions that go round.
:17:04. > :17:07.First of all, you're probably expecting a girl to be stood here,
:17:08. > :17:10.but actually it's quite common for people male, female,
:17:11. > :17:14.even different ages to get eating disorders, so I feel especially
:17:15. > :17:18.around teenagers it's a crucial age that is important to talk about it,
:17:19. > :17:20.so for some reason if you feel by avoiding food everything
:17:21. > :17:34.That's when I then started to skip meals and things like that
:17:35. > :17:37.and gradually I got to the point when my parents had to turn
:17:38. > :17:43.round and say to me, "Look, something's wrong, you need help".
:17:44. > :17:46.How long did it take for your parents to notice
:17:47. > :17:51.They noticed very quickly that there was stuff I was hiding.
:17:52. > :17:54.They noticed I was losing weight and they picked it up quite quick,
:17:55. > :17:57.which is the best way because if it had gone any further
:17:58. > :17:59.than it could have taken a lot longer to be able
:18:00. > :18:03.Do you reckon your friends would have noticed as soon
:18:04. > :18:05.as your family had if you hadn't told them?
:18:06. > :18:08.I don't think they would have done, no.
:18:09. > :18:10.I think some of them may have picked a tiny bit,
:18:11. > :18:13.but they didn't sort of realise what it actually was I was doing
:18:14. > :18:18.because I would tend to be quite secretive.
:18:19. > :18:22.Do you ever worry, Jamie, that, you know, you could ever end up
:18:23. > :18:26.lapsing and going back down the path that leads to being anorexic again?
:18:27. > :18:30.I think, for me it is always a worry, but I find my main therapy
:18:31. > :18:33.is working with animals, because to work with them I need
:18:34. > :18:37.to be healthy and if I'm not healthy then I can't work with them.
:18:38. > :18:40.It also makes me relax a lot more, because if I'm not relaxed,
:18:41. > :18:48.So if you ever kind of thought, well, things aren't going so great
:18:49. > :18:51.in my life at the moment, if you ever were tempted to start
:18:52. > :18:54.controlling what you ate to the point where it it would be
:18:55. > :18:56.detrimental to your health, the one thing that keeps
:18:57. > :18:59.you going is working with horses like her.
:19:00. > :19:04.It does, because I need to be able to have the energy to work with them
:19:05. > :19:08.and pick up poo and groom them and stuff like that, so I need
:19:09. > :19:13.to eat to be able to do that, so I need to keep myself healthy.
:19:14. > :19:16.It is mutually beneficial, I suppose, because the kind
:19:17. > :19:18.of horses that you often work with are rescue animals,
:19:19. > :19:23.so you are helping them and, in turn, you helping them helps you.
:19:24. > :19:35.I think she's had enough of the interview now!
:19:36. > :19:38.Now, look, I know it feels like Inside
:19:39. > :19:40.Out has been around since the Second World War,
:19:41. > :19:41.but of course there was
:19:42. > :19:44.Instead, people would huddle round the wireless with
:19:45. > :19:47.their news, church services and entertainment, so that
:19:48. > :19:55.So for the duration of the war, the orchestras and religious
:19:56. > :20:23.During the war, the because of the threat
:20:24. > :20:29.from German bombers, the BBC moved its orchestras,
:20:30. > :20:32.singers and religious department out of London to a secret location
:20:33. > :20:35.from where 8,000 broadcasts were made.
:20:36. > :20:41.Those programmes were said to come from Somewhere in England.
:20:42. > :20:46.In the summer of 1941, a special train
:20:47. > :20:52.On board, 400 musicians, singers, broadcasters and crew.
:20:53. > :20:55.They would stay for four years, lodging with locals as Bedford
:20:56. > :21:10.became one of the largest centres for the BBC outside of London.
:21:11. > :21:20.One was Trinity Chapel at St Paul's Church.
:21:21. > :21:22.Much of the old Outside Broadcast Equipment was scrapped,
:21:23. > :21:27.Thanks to collectors like Chris Owen some has
:21:28. > :21:43.It was very well mean to begin with. It was designed to be repaired. It
:21:44. > :21:47.is amazing what this church is seen, apart from the services here. The
:21:48. > :21:51.BBC would have piled in here when they arrived in Bedford and suddenly
:21:52. > :22:01.started getting this site with this sort of equipment. It makes you
:22:02. > :22:04.think, doesn't it? I pray you have mercy on all who are afflicted.
:22:05. > :22:07.The Chapel was used for the Daily Service to the UK
:22:08. > :22:09.and the British Empire with the BBC Singers in residence.
:22:10. > :22:12.It was shielded from the rest of the church by velvet curtains.
:22:13. > :22:14.Bedford historian David Fowler is fascinated by
:22:15. > :22:27.Two archbishops broadcast from here. They were assisted by the BBC
:22:28. > :22:35.singers occasionally. Assisted sometimes by boys from a local
:22:36. > :22:41.school. In its day, there was no TV, of course. It was all radio. That
:22:42. > :22:45.was entertainment and information. You had Bedford as the biggest
:22:46. > :22:50.centre for the BBC outside of London was certainly quite amazing, and to
:22:51. > :22:53.have that number around the time, billeted in the town, must've had
:22:54. > :23:03.quite an impact and would have been very difficult to keep quiet.
:23:04. > :23:06.Bedford School played a key role in the BBC's operation and today
:23:07. > :23:10.snatch a lunchbreak to rehearse in the Great Hall they're
:23:11. > :23:13.During the War the Great Hall was BBC Studio 7.
:23:14. > :23:16.It was the BBC's symphony Orchestras favourite place ? acoustically
:23:17. > :23:35.When the orchestras played, the boys would lean over
:23:36. > :23:44.He went to school here during the war.
:23:45. > :23:52.Derek is 91 now and more then 70 years on, his memory is pin sharp.
:23:53. > :23:58.When you use to steal a moment or two to watch the rehearsals, when
:23:59. > :24:08.was your favourite position? Appear. At the end you get a lopsided view.
:24:09. > :24:13.There you have more of a panoramic view. By watching a rehearsal, did
:24:14. > :24:19.you feel Cuba getting a secret insight to the workings of an
:24:20. > :24:23.orchestra? Yes, it was quite fascinating. Occasionally, one could
:24:24. > :24:30.do with the conductor was getting at in calling one particular member to
:24:31. > :24:33.do something this way not that way. I don't think I appreciated it at
:24:34. > :24:42.the time just how privileged and lucky we were. To be able to, not
:24:43. > :24:45.exactly be a part, but to be there when it happened. Can you remember
:24:46. > :24:53.the kind of things they were playing? Any pieces stick out this
:24:54. > :24:59.Chamakh the sorcerers apprentice is one that sticks in my mind. That has
:25:00. > :25:05.always been quite a favourite. It is so descriptive. Don't ask me to sing
:25:06. > :25:22.it! You just did, and I didn't! This building here was the nerve
:25:23. > :25:30.centre for more than 8,000 broadcasts to Britain and the
:25:31. > :25:35.Empire. All the output came by wire into the control room and that is
:25:36. > :25:38.where the 8,000 broadcasts came from somewhere in England went down that
:25:39. > :25:44.line to London where they were broadcast. So if the Germans were
:25:45. > :25:47.able to take out the control room they would take out the whole
:25:48. > :25:52.operation? If a stray bomb had hit it would've been a major problem,
:25:53. > :25:58.but Bedford was a pretty safe place to be in World War II. It suffered
:25:59. > :26:02.very little. Only 10,000 people were killed in Bedford in the hold of
:26:03. > :26:06.World War II. We never had a deliberate bombing raid. The bombs
:26:07. > :26:10.that were dropped for more accidental than intentional. I'm
:26:11. > :26:14.sure the Germans would have known, despite the attempts to keep it
:26:15. > :26:19.secret, apparently Lord Hall Horst said that he knew the BBC was in
:26:20. > :26:20.Bedford, but I'm a little bit sceptical about that.
:26:21. > :26:22.Bedford Corn Exchange was the epicentre
:26:23. > :26:26.of the broadcasts - BBC Studio one.
:26:27. > :26:29.Many of the 8,000 concerts came from here including the 1944 Proms.
:26:30. > :26:35.It was HQ for the BBC Symphony Orchestra.
:26:36. > :26:37.Many of the greats played in Studio 1.
:26:38. > :26:40.Yehudi Menuhin, Vera Lynn, Bing Crosby, and the American band
:26:41. > :27:00.Thanks again for the invitation to come here. For now, good luck and
:27:01. > :27:03.goodbye. Just a second, what is important there is the resolution
:27:04. > :27:06.For conductor Michael Rose this is a special place.
:27:07. > :27:09.He was a pupil of Sir Adrian and now conducts the Bedfordshire
:27:10. > :27:11.Symphony Orchestra - rehearsing here in Studio 1
:27:12. > :27:28.It is exactly the same shape and size now as it ever was. Certain
:27:29. > :27:32.things have disappeared. The work and for example on the back wall.
:27:33. > :27:40.They would have looked for a hall near enough to London, but out of
:27:41. > :27:44.danger in that area, but had a good acoustic. That is why they built the
:27:45. > :27:49.recording studio just up in the corner. Lots of distinguished
:27:50. > :27:53.newsagents, Sir Adrian Goldberg principal conductor, live just
:27:54. > :27:57.outside the town. He used to cycle in each morning to work to rehearse,
:27:58. > :28:02.and they would rehearse exactly as we are doing this evening. There is
:28:03. > :28:06.a link there in that I had lessons from Serie A dream as a youngster
:28:07. > :28:10.and he was always very kind to me and I knew him quite well. It is
:28:11. > :28:14.It is lovely to think that we are following in his footsteps.
:28:15. > :28:16.At the end of the war the BBC shipped out,
:28:17. > :28:29.And in some way played their part in the allied
:28:30. > :28:35.victory from their wartime home somewhere in England.
:28:36. > :28:41.Well, that this Inside Out from Bedford. I hope you enjoyed the
:28:42. > :28:48.programme. See you next week. Goodbye. Next week, nearly as month
:28:49. > :28:53.after Monarch crash landed in Luton, we speak to the former employees who
:28:54. > :28:58.lost their jobs. And since the police dog who was stabbed his Jo
:28:59. > :29:03.Scott animal of the year award. We cover him from injury to recovery
:29:04. > :29:05.and beyond, to stardom. That is Inside Out, next Monday at
:29:06. > :29:11.go. That's it for others to night from the Medway
:29:12. > :29:14.Hello, I'm Riz Lateef with your 90 second update.