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:00:05. > :00:13.Hello and welcome to Inside Out South West.

:00:13. > :00:16.Tonight, we report into the ongoing investigation into the M5 crash. We

:00:16. > :00:24.have remarkable new testimony from those involved in one of Britain's

:00:24. > :00:31.worst ever motorway pile-ups. was like stepping on to a movie set.

:00:31. > :00:34.It wasn't real. 10 days on, the questions are still being asked.

:00:34. > :00:37.can't believe you can have a firework display so close to a

:00:37. > :00:40.motorway. Also tonight, Jonathan Foyle

:00:40. > :00:50.uncovers the strange story behind the monument that towers above St.

:00:50. > :01:04.

:01:04. > :01:06.Ives. That is dramatic. This is As the police continue their

:01:06. > :01:16.investigation into the M5 crash, we've been hearing remarkable

:01:16. > :01:22.

:01:22. > :01:28.testimony from those involved. was getting up to speed and a head,

:01:28. > :01:36.I noticed a white wall. I said, that is the thickest fog I have

:01:36. > :01:43.ever seen. The lorries hit cars in front of us and we could here bang,

:01:43. > :01:47.bang, bang from behind as well. It was hell. It was the worst noise

:01:47. > :01:52.running through your head, just screams of people, not knowing what

:01:53. > :01:58.to do first. The next thing was as if somebody had thrown a black

:01:58. > :02:01.blanket over the windscreen. It went jet-black.

:02:01. > :02:04.And Inside Out can reveal that no fog warnings were displayed on the

:02:04. > :02:10.M5's electronic signs at the time of the accident, despite forecasts

:02:10. > :02:20.and reports of poor visibility that night. BBC viewers had been warned

:02:20. > :02:26.

:02:26. > :02:31.of fog and so had the Highways Agency. At 4 o'clock, its website

:02:31. > :02:37.was sent a forecast of fog and mist at the Met Office. These conditions

:02:37. > :02:47.were experienced by eyewitness, Rob Weaving. There were small patches

:02:47. > :02:50.

:02:50. > :02:53.of foregone water on the ground, it was not raining heavily. Despite

:02:53. > :02:56.this, no warnings were displayed on the M5. We asked the Highways

:02:56. > :02:59.Agency, which controls the electronic boards, why? It said it

:02:59. > :03:02.had received no reports of adverse weather on any of its roads. And it

:03:02. > :03:05.said its control centre had been given advice by the Met Office that

:03:05. > :03:08."did not highlight fog as a potential hazard" at the time of

:03:08. > :03:13.the crash. At around 8.15 that evening, a fireworks display at

:03:13. > :03:19.Taunton Rugby Club ended. A police investigation is ongoing into

:03:19. > :03:23.whether smoke from that played any part in the accident. Whatever the

:03:23. > :03:33.cause, for Ciara and Roger Neno there was no warning of what was to

:03:33. > :03:35.

:03:35. > :03:39.come as they joined the motorway at junction 25. We pulled on to the M

:03:39. > :03:46.five and we were getting up to speed behind an Icelander truck in

:03:46. > :03:52.the middle lane, when we rolled into a wall of a very sudden, very,

:03:52. > :03:57.very thick, what appeared to be fog. It was like somebody had thrown a

:03:57. > :04:02.hood over the windscreen of a car. You could not see a thing. Almost

:04:02. > :04:09.as soon as that had happened, I could see the truck, but it was

:04:09. > :04:13.stationery. I was closing fast from about 80 metres, closing quite

:04:13. > :04:22.quickly, and having to break very sharply. I literally stood on the

:04:22. > :04:28.brakes. I was thinking, we are not going to stop. But we did. We

:04:28. > :04:35.stopped about two, from my memory, about 10 feet to spare. The lorries

:04:35. > :04:45.had cars in front of us and we could hear bang, bang, buying from

:04:45. > :04:46.

:04:46. > :04:54.behind as well. It was rhythmical. It was just like a beach. -- beta.

:04:54. > :04:56.I turned to cure and said, we are going to get hit. -- cure. Based on

:04:56. > :04:59.post crash pictures, we've tried to indicate what happened in the

:04:59. > :05:01.aftermath of the accident. The vehicles represented may not be

:05:01. > :05:05.exactly where they ended up immediately after the crash. The

:05:05. > :05:09.Nenos were in the very first phase of the collision, and Ciara was one

:05:09. > :05:13.of the first to dial 999. I said, we need ambulance, fire brigade and

:05:13. > :05:17.police. I said this is not just a small crash, there are many, many

:05:18. > :05:26.crashes and I can see fire. Then came the second phase of the crash.

:05:26. > :05:30.A lorry jack-knifed behind them, protecting the couple from impact.

:05:30. > :05:34.After probably 90 seconds, they said, I'm not sitting here any

:05:35. > :05:40.longer, I have got to see what I can do. That is when I stepped out

:05:40. > :05:49.of the car. It was like stepping on to a movie set. You just don't

:05:49. > :05:53.figure is real for a minute. Just mangled bits of metal everywhere

:05:53. > :05:57.and I can hear the music from the rugby club, and I just keep

:05:58. > :06:01.thinking, God, they have no idea what is going on appear. Roger saw

:06:01. > :06:11.two men trapped in the car directly in front of him, he borrowed a tyre

:06:11. > :06:15.lever from a truck driver. I ran back and told the guy in the seat

:06:15. > :06:25.to turn away, and I smashed the window. It smashed first time. I

:06:25. > :06:25.

:06:25. > :06:31.pulled him out. The chapel on the other side was very dazed. He was

:06:31. > :06:38.in a worse way. We said, move over, we will get you out. We couldn't

:06:38. > :06:42.open his door because he was at the barrier. He said, why, I'm OK? I

:06:42. > :06:48.said look, you engine is gone and a car is smoking, it might go up in

:06:48. > :06:50.flames, you need to get out. We pulled him out. Tom Hamill, his

:06:50. > :07:00.girlfriend Catherine and Dad, had pulled up behind the jack-knifed

:07:00. > :07:01.

:07:01. > :07:04.lorry. They too were remarkably lucky not to have been hit. I just

:07:04. > :07:12.remember sat there and Thomas was like, we are going to get hit,

:07:12. > :07:17.brace yourselves. We heard and saw to the left, cars just crashing in.

:07:17. > :07:23.Someone shouted, please, take my baby, take my baby, my husband is

:07:23. > :07:27.trapped in a car, take my baby. dialled 999, standing at the

:07:27. > :07:31.central reservation, as more cars were crashing into the back of us.

:07:31. > :07:35.I remember they call handler saying, how many cars? I kept saying,

:07:35. > :07:39.there's more! In this third phase of the crash, Matt and Michelle

:07:39. > :07:46.Craker, their son Fred and three dogs, ended up wedged on the hard

:07:46. > :07:51.shoulder between a lorry and the crash barrier. We got out and the

:07:51. > :07:55.van and straight away in front, I could see flames. Not coming from

:07:55. > :08:02.us, not the car in front, but it seemed about 10 feet away, big

:08:02. > :08:08.flames. There was fire. I remember before I actually descended the

:08:08. > :08:12.bank, the lorry was well alight, looking to the right, the Roads

:08:12. > :08:17.Service was on fire. There had obviously been a fuel spill. The

:08:17. > :08:23.last image of looking at the van was from the bottom of the

:08:23. > :08:29.embankments, looking up. The cab of the vans had flames in it so the

:08:29. > :08:38.fire had spread through the lorry, into the van. That is really within

:08:38. > :08:41.a matter of minutes a bus coming to a halt. A dash of us. The other

:08:41. > :08:46.side of the blazing lorry, Roger Neno followed a young woman's cries

:08:46. > :08:50.for help. Her car was pinned under the jack-knifed lorry. I thought

:08:50. > :08:59.the car -- the fire would spread underneath and it would not take

:08:59. > :09:05.long. I jumped over. The front door or was slightly ajar or at the top.

:09:05. > :09:13.They were not move. I told her to move back and Swanley Aaron at the

:09:13. > :09:22.window and on the 4th attempt it broke. -- I swung the Arran. I

:09:22. > :09:30.pulled right. I was trying to keep her calm and not panic so as not to

:09:30. > :09:34.panic her. I was thinking, it is raining, drizzle is all we need,

:09:34. > :09:44.but there is this strong smell of fuel and the residual all over the

:09:44. > :09:45.

:09:45. > :09:51.floor. As I was doing this I saw the lady... The Lou DiBella was

:09:51. > :09:57.pained by her legs under the back wheel. -- the lady that was pained.

:09:57. > :10:01.She was pinned under the lorry. She was screaming, help, get me out. I

:10:01. > :10:04.was fearful that she would lie there and burn as well. With no

:10:04. > :10:07.chance of releasing her, Roger ran for help, returning with an off-

:10:07. > :10:14.duty doctor and one of the fire crews which were now arriving

:10:14. > :10:20.Despite the fireball, the woman was saved. I could see Roger going

:10:20. > :10:26.towards the car. There was a huge fireball behind. It just exploded

:10:26. > :10:29.and I screamed at him, get out! I've got everything was could go up.

:10:30. > :10:33.Despite a fireball, the woman was saved. Roger and Ciara spent hours

:10:33. > :10:35.at the scene helping with the relief effort. The time between the

:10:35. > :10:43.Nenos stopping, and the first emergency services arriving took

:10:43. > :10:49.about the time it's taken you to watch this film. 51 people were

:10:50. > :10:54.injured in the crash, seven died. The investigation may one day

:10:54. > :11:04.provide some answers. But for the people involved, the sights and

:11:04. > :11:04.

:11:04. > :11:07.sounds of that night will live with them for the rest of their lives.

:11:07. > :11:13.am talking about us and there are people who have lost family members

:11:13. > :11:18.and been permanently injured and their lives are changed for ever

:11:18. > :11:28.and... You know, I don't even have a scratch. It just doesn't make any

:11:28. > :11:31.

:11:31. > :11:35.sense. None at all. The police investigation continues. One line

:11:35. > :11:41.of inquiry is whether smoke from a fireworks display which was being

:11:41. > :11:46.held at Taunton Rugby Club may have been a contributing factor.

:11:46. > :11:56.It was billed as a dazzling night of family fun. But within 48 hours,

:11:56. > :11:57.

:11:57. > :12:00.this event was at the centre of a police criminal investigation.

:12:00. > :12:06.believe that whilst there was fog and there were difficult conditions

:12:07. > :12:12.that from witness evidence, there was significant smoke across the

:12:12. > :12:15.carriageway which cost a bank, so much to a far bank, which was very

:12:15. > :12:18.distracting it difficult to drive through. 10 days on, the question

:12:18. > :12:22.remains unanswered. Did a fireworks display at Taunton Rugby Club cause

:12:22. > :12:25.or contribute to Britain's worst motorway crash for 20 years? We

:12:25. > :12:35.wanted to talk to experts from the fireworks industry and those caught

:12:35. > :12:35.

:12:35. > :12:39.up in the tragedy. We found conflicting eyewitness accounts.

:12:39. > :12:46.cannot believe you can have a fireworks display so close to a

:12:46. > :12:52.motorway. It was foggy, so you would not be able to tell if there

:12:52. > :12:58.was smoke. The fireworks display with some were over there and I was

:12:58. > :13:06.over there. The accident happened just parallel, almost behind for

:13:06. > :13:11.ever read the posters. The -- where the rugby post is. Bev Davis heard

:13:11. > :13:15.the fireworks go off. It took her and her horses by surprise.

:13:15. > :13:19.couldn't believe it. I ran down to the entrance of the rugby club to

:13:19. > :13:22.ask them to stop so I could get my horses in. She went straight to

:13:22. > :13:26.talk to the organisers. While she was there, she raised the question

:13:26. > :13:32.of safety. A said I can't believe you can have a fireworks display so

:13:32. > :13:35.close to the motorway. The fact bet it was so bright and blaring, I

:13:35. > :13:39.just don't see how it could have been anything other than a

:13:39. > :13:42.distraction. A distraction and worries about smoke. Issues which

:13:42. > :13:48.have worried the public since the crash and ones the police are now

:13:48. > :13:56.examining. Tom Smith also takes an active interest. He's a

:13:56. > :14:00.pyrotechnics consultant. This is the rugby club, for the fireworks

:14:00. > :14:09.were fired from. This is the M5 and this is where the accident fight --

:14:09. > :14:14.side was. He estimates the club is 200 metres from the character way.

:14:14. > :14:19.These are low-level fireworks, and then hire of, Shiels bursting over

:14:19. > :14:24.the top. -- higher up. A Aurigny producing what looks like a lot of

:14:24. > :14:27.smoke? The amount of smoke I would expect from a display that size. We

:14:27. > :14:31.can see the fireworks clearly. There is obviously some smoke but

:14:31. > :14:41.it is not excessive. It will drift downwind but we do not know where

:14:41. > :14:43.

:14:43. > :14:47.the wind was. The forecast was for a south-westerly wind. If it is

:14:47. > :14:54.south-westerly the smoke would travel in this direction. That is

:14:54. > :15:01.parallel to the motorway ballad than towards it. Regardless of

:15:01. > :15:05.direction, what would happen to the smoke? It is finite. You cannot

:15:05. > :15:13.have a very thick and very deep. If it is over an extensive portion of

:15:13. > :15:17.the motorway Ben by necessity it must have been delayed and then. --

:15:17. > :15:19.dilate and Fein. We decided to take a much closer look at the smoke

:15:19. > :15:23.generated by fireworks. Alan Christie's helping us. He detonates

:15:23. > :15:32.16 tons of fireworks every year and is the man who puts the bang into

:15:32. > :15:38.the Bristol Balloon Fiesta. I have brought along a selection of the

:15:38. > :15:48.most ever got things you would find. There is a comical fountain, a 25

:15:48. > :15:49.

:15:49. > :15:57.mm calibre, a Roman candle. Close up, this appeared to be very fine,

:15:57. > :16:01.almost like an aerosol spray. The Met Office has told us smoke can

:16:01. > :16:08.cause mist or fog to form in damp air. It can also thicken them up.

:16:08. > :16:12.But that's not what Alan's found from his experience with fireworks.

:16:12. > :16:18.Do you pick it would generate for almost? The not a chance. That is

:16:18. > :16:25.natural. The weather conditions, low pressure can help hold the

:16:25. > :16:32.smoke on the floor, but if the wind is not blowing, you see it

:16:32. > :16:36.dissipate over four or five minutes. We are going to try and have a look

:16:36. > :16:44.at one large firework going off, producing the smoke and heading

:16:44. > :16:50.across the road, to see how thick the smoke can be. As you can see,

:16:50. > :16:55.we have got the firework going and the smoke is being blown across the

:16:55. > :16:59.road. It is thick smoke and certainly it does not help having

:16:59. > :17:02.headlamps on. It is hard to see ahead. This experiment on a

:17:02. > :17:07.farmer's track is far from scientific and in no way does it

:17:08. > :17:10.replicate the display on 4th November. Of course, close up,

:17:10. > :17:15.firework smoke reduces visibility. But, is that what happened on the

:17:15. > :17:19.night? Those at the display on 4th November offer differing opinions

:17:19. > :17:23.about smoke and wind direction. There was no smoke. Literally, I

:17:23. > :17:28.walked away after the fireworks and there was no smoke. It was just fog,

:17:28. > :17:33.thick fog. The display was a very big, supposedly the biggest in

:17:33. > :17:37.Somerset and there was a lot of smoke created. The display ran for

:17:37. > :17:43.15 minutes and afterwards of the smoke stayed around for a long time.

:17:43. > :17:47.You cannot see some of the pitch. The wind was blowing towards me.

:17:47. > :17:52.From where I was did, by the grandstand, that is away from the

:17:52. > :17:56.motorway. It was not drifting. It was holding fast, from what I

:17:56. > :18:00.understand, so I do not think it too quickly at all. Two opposing

:18:00. > :18:03.accounts. The police no doubt have many more points of view. Alan

:18:03. > :18:12.doubts smoke was an issue, but thinks the display itself had the

:18:12. > :18:16.potential to distract drivers. Would you have done it 200 metres

:18:16. > :18:22.from the M5? There is perhaps too close. 600 metres away and not have

:18:22. > :18:27.said was a problem but within 100 metres, Sibly not. And within 200?

:18:27. > :18:31.A bit too close. The chances are you would not have run a show?

:18:31. > :18:33.It's a bold admission from Alan. He would not have run a fireworks

:18:33. > :18:36.display at Taunton Rugby Club. Reports suggest the fireworks had

:18:36. > :18:42.finished 10 minutes before the crash. The police will have the

:18:42. > :18:47.final word. They have 30 staff following up 200 lines of inquiry.

:18:47. > :18:52.A camera near junction 25 may hold vital clues. Smoke and fireworks

:18:52. > :19:01.remain a significant part of the investigation. The rugby club says

:19:01. > :19:05.it's working closely with Avon and Somerset Police. I was going to an

:19:05. > :19:09.event in told the... We joined the Wells MP Tessa Munt back at the

:19:09. > :19:17.scene of the crash. She too is an eyewitness. She was driving south

:19:17. > :19:23.on the M5 as the fireball raged. The heat was intense. It was

:19:23. > :19:26.burning hot. We were all of those lanes away. She wasn't aware of

:19:26. > :19:33.smoke or fireworks and on reflection, feels sympathy for the

:19:33. > :19:37.event organisers. If I was part of the rugby club I would feel awful.

:19:37. > :19:41.It must be so stressful for the people involved in organising this.

:19:41. > :19:51.So often they are for charity and they are events to raise money for

:19:51. > :19:53.

:19:53. > :19:56.good causes. I guess, mammals just feel terrible. -- that must adjust.

:19:56. > :19:59.It will take many weeks for the police to reach their conclusions

:20:00. > :20:03.but already, the issue of firework safety is under scrutiny once again.

:20:03. > :20:07.If the investigations show smoke from the despair with energy it is

:20:07. > :20:13.something we will now get very seriously and we would certainly

:20:13. > :20:18.incorporate information about that in training corporation -- causes.

:20:18. > :20:25.We do not want to react quickly to something we do not know about yet.

:20:25. > :20:28.All of these investigations will no doubt add to the picture.

:20:28. > :20:31.Some memorials need no explanation - like Sir Francis Drake's statue

:20:31. > :20:36.on Plymouth Hoe. But Historian Jonathan Foyle has been on the

:20:36. > :20:38.trail of a lesser known South West curious monuments of the lot

:20:38. > :20:48.Have you bought an antique and wondered what secrets it might

:20:48. > :21:00.

:21:01. > :21:10.hold? I love rummaging. On a recent trip, I came across a beautiful old

:21:11. > :21:11.

:21:11. > :21:15.trunk. It's a fine object in itself, but I probably wouldn't have taken

:21:15. > :21:18.it home if it hadn't been for the brass plate on the front that said:

:21:19. > :21:21.John Knill Esq. I didn't have a clue who John Knill was, so I did

:21:21. > :21:31.what any architectural historian would do in similar circumstances -

:21:31. > :21:34.

:21:34. > :21:39.I Googled him. He must have been some body! Instructions about the

:21:39. > :21:44.ceremony around his final resting place... 25th July, a few days'

:21:44. > :21:47.time. It turns out John Knill was an 18th century lawyer who made his

:21:47. > :21:57.name in Cornwall. And that's where I'm headed to find out more about

:21:57. > :22:04.

:22:04. > :22:07.the original owner of my trunk. That his dramatic! Knill's monument

:22:07. > :22:10.sits on a hilltop overlooking St Ives. Every five years, 10 young

:22:10. > :22:20.girls lead a procession of townsfolk up here and dance around

:22:20. > :22:23.

:22:23. > :22:28.the steeple, as its known. It is such a local thing, with local

:22:28. > :22:32.girls taking part. Use the John Knill wanting to remain in the

:22:32. > :22:36.memory of people of St Ives longer than is usual. He has done very

:22:36. > :22:39.well, 200 years. We are still dancing around. Harding has been

:22:39. > :22:42.Master of Ceremonies at the event for nearly half a century. I'm

:22:42. > :22:49.desperate to learn more about John Knill and why he deserved a

:22:49. > :22:53.monument, but I'm not about to find out from him. You need to go to the

:22:53. > :23:01.archive and do some investigation, frankly. There's an awful lot on

:23:01. > :23:05.him and it does mean digging. If you really want, have a look,

:23:05. > :23:15.because they have a lot of information. This is turning into a

:23:15. > :23:15.

:23:15. > :23:18.bit of a mystery tour! John Knill, biographical sketch. Just what I'm

:23:18. > :23:21.looking for. 60 years after Knill's death, his nephew, John Jope Rogers,

:23:21. > :23:29.wrote an account of his life and achievements. It's a mine of

:23:29. > :23:33.information. John Knill was born in East Cornwall in 1733. He trained

:23:33. > :23:39.as a lawyer in Penzance and at the age of just 29, became Collector of

:23:39. > :23:42.Customs and then mayor in St Ives. I'm now off to meet someone who can

:23:43. > :23:52.tell me about the St Ives that Knill knew and his impact upon the

:23:53. > :23:53.

:23:53. > :24:00.town. It was very poor fishing village. It had a very limited

:24:00. > :24:07.harbour. At that time it was only a fraction of the size we have now.

:24:07. > :24:11.It was through him that we have the street we are standing on now. When

:24:11. > :24:19.the time he was here, there was a boom in mining and there was always

:24:19. > :24:22.something to export. There was metal or and produce of the town,

:24:22. > :24:28.which was also a pilchard station. Brian's account helps us picture St

:24:28. > :24:32.Ives at the dawn of the industrial revolution. Boats would arrive from

:24:32. > :24:38.South Wales laden with coal to power with a steam engines driving

:24:38. > :24:45.their minds are deeper and deeper Underground. -- driving the

:24:45. > :24:48.coalmines. Pilcher's were being exported to Italy. So this was John

:24:48. > :24:52.Knill's world for the best part of 20 years. It certainly sounds like

:24:52. > :24:55.he was a mover and shaker, but how many officials get a 50 foot

:24:55. > :24:58.monument for two decades of public service? This is where the story

:24:58. > :25:03.gets interesting. His nephew's account tells us that Knill left St

:25:03. > :25:08.Ives to continue his legal career in London in 1782. But before he

:25:08. > :25:17.went, he made plans for his own demise. Now, Knill wasn't keen on

:25:17. > :25:22.churchyard burials... Apparently he did not like the idea of bodies

:25:22. > :25:27.being piled up on top of each other, much as what was happening in the

:25:27. > :25:32.graveyard of St Ives Church, even in his dead. The ground is two

:25:32. > :25:36.metres above the surrounding lanes. So he chose his own final resting

:25:36. > :25:40.place up on top of Worvas Hill. His body was to be housed in a tomb at

:25:40. > :25:48.the foot of a steeple, which he commissioned himself. So there's a

:25:48. > :25:52.monument to John Knill because he paid for it. Some vanity project!

:25:52. > :26:00.Knill's vanity didn't end there. He even designed his own memorial

:26:00. > :26:04.ceremony, to be repeated every five years and paid for out of his will.

:26:04. > :26:08.He stipulated that 10 young girls should be selected and paid �5 each

:26:08. > :26:11.- a lot of money back then - and a surefire way to get their parents

:26:11. > :26:21.involved. After kicking off at the Guildhall, the procession makes its

:26:21. > :26:30.

:26:30. > :26:33.way up through the streets of the town, on its way to the monument.

:26:33. > :26:43.Knill said the girls should be the daughters of fishermen, tinners or

:26:43. > :26:48.

:26:48. > :26:51.seamen. That went by the board a while ago. All the more amazing

:26:51. > :26:56.when you realise that in the end, Knill wasn't actually buried here.

:26:56. > :26:59.The tomb is empty. From St Ives to St Paul's. To find out about

:26:59. > :27:04.Knill's later life and his body's final resting place, I've come back

:27:04. > :27:14.to London. Knill was very much a man about town, living at the heart

:27:14. > :27:16.

:27:16. > :27:21.of the city. According to his nephew, Knill spent much of his

:27:21. > :27:27.time hanging out with writers in Paternoster Row. Sadly it was

:27:27. > :27:37.destroyed in the Blitz but it was frequented by the likes of Boswell

:27:37. > :27:37.

:27:37. > :27:41.and Dr Johnson. It must have been extraordinary. I discovered a

:27:41. > :27:45.poignant ending to John Knill's story. He died in 1811 and was

:27:45. > :27:47.buried at the church of St Andrew, in Holborn. But the redevelopment

:27:47. > :27:57.of that site meant his final resting place lay elsewhere,

:27:57. > :28:04.

:28:04. > :28:08.beneath another monument, but this one doesn't bear his name. Over the

:28:08. > :28:14.years the bodies were brought here, to London Metropolitan Cemetery. It

:28:14. > :28:18.strikes me as an irony that Knill was not buried in the monument he

:28:18. > :28:23.built. He is under this monument in a place he never knew, in a mass

:28:23. > :28:32.grave. But it's in Cornwall he'll be remembered. His body might not