:00:12. > :00:15.In the next half an hour we go beneath the covers of the bedroom
:00:15. > :00:23.tax to discover why some northerners are facing sleepless
:00:23. > :00:28.nights. What is bothering us is a dead line. Get out of here or pay
:00:28. > :00:34.�27 extra a week. We discover how counting sheep in the North is not
:00:34. > :00:39.adding up. I had gone at 7 o'clock in the morning to feed them and
:00:39. > :00:46.there were only two left. And how for some of our young footballers
:00:46. > :00:51.taking a penalty means time in jail. The only way I was getting it was
:00:51. > :01:01.through crime and the crime it was selling drugs. Stories from the
:01:01. > :01:11.
:01:11. > :01:15.heart of the North East and Cumbria, Critics call it the bedroom tax,
:01:15. > :01:20.the under occupancy charge kicks in in April as part of the Government
:01:20. > :01:23.shake-up of the benefits system. Opponents say it will force
:01:23. > :01:29.thousands of households in the North into poverty and tear
:01:29. > :01:33.families apart. Tonight I am opening the door on complaints from
:01:33. > :01:39.one community. It is a miniature scene of what is going on across
:01:39. > :01:44.the North. All told in the factories I worked about 30 years.
:01:44. > :01:50.I worked a 40 hour week because I did not want to get anything off
:01:50. > :01:56.the state. I have never signed on in my life and tell my husband died.
:01:56. > :02:01.Tudhoe Moor, a council estate in Spennymoor, County Durham. Sue
:02:01. > :02:06.Brannigan's family has lived in this house since the 1950s. Her
:02:06. > :02:10.four children grew up in it and her husband Peter died in it. Sue is
:02:10. > :02:14.bracing herself for the Government's new under occupation
:02:15. > :02:20.charge or her bedroom tax which kicks in in April. It affects
:02:20. > :02:24.people in social housing. Your benefits will be cut if you have
:02:25. > :02:32.more bedrooms it than you actually need. That sounds fair in principle,
:02:32. > :02:38.but is it? We have up four bedrooms. How many people live here? Just me,
:02:38. > :02:47.it is too big for me. Because Sue has got three spare rooms bedroom
:02:47. > :02:53.tax will hit her hard. I get �71 a week. I have �8 water rates to pay.
:02:53. > :03:00.�27 bedroom tax and that will leave me with �35. What is bothering us
:03:00. > :03:05.is a deadline. Get out of fear or pay �27 extra a week. So what are
:03:05. > :03:10.the rules? One person or a couple needed just one bedroom. They will
:03:10. > :03:15.be charged an average of �13 a week if they have more. Suppose they
:03:15. > :03:20.start having babies, a boy and a girl. The Government expects
:03:20. > :03:24.children under 10 to share, so the family needs of two bedrooms. But
:03:25. > :03:32.if the children are the same sex, they share a bedroom until they are
:03:32. > :03:36.16. They leave home. Mum and dad only need one bedroom again.
:03:36. > :03:41.Pensioners alike grandad can have whatever house they like, they are
:03:41. > :03:46.not affected by the tax. Ironically Peter Brannigan was a pensioner,
:03:46. > :03:51.but Sue is not. Not only has she lost her husband, but because she
:03:51. > :03:56.cannot afford to keep her home, she is going to lose that as well.
:03:56. > :04:04.is easy saying to somebody, can you shift house? But it is another
:04:04. > :04:09.thing to say, leave your home. this about saving money? It is
:04:09. > :04:13.about what is affordable. We have a housing benefit bill that is
:04:13. > :04:17.frankly out of control. We can afford to support people in the
:04:18. > :04:24.bedrooms they need, but not to fund extra bedrooms. It makes perfect
:04:24. > :04:28.sense. If you are in a big house, it makes sense to come in with a
:04:28. > :04:33.rule that pushes you to think about moving. No, I do not think anybody
:04:33. > :04:41.should be told what size house they should live in and if they do not,
:04:41. > :04:46.they will have so much ripped off their benefits. We pay for rent. It
:04:46. > :04:51.is only since my husband died on the bathroom floor that I have been
:04:51. > :04:56.plunged into this mess. Housing associations have told us bedroom
:04:56. > :05:06.tax cannot work in the north. They say people who rely on benefits
:05:06. > :05:11.
:05:11. > :05:18.will either mood miles from home or end up a lot poorer. -- move.
:05:18. > :05:24.party is over for benefit skivers. I did not go to that party. It is
:05:24. > :05:31.slander and propaganda. Sue's son Michael lives across the street and
:05:31. > :05:37.is facing a hit from the bedroom tax as well. How many rooms? It is
:05:37. > :05:42.a two-bedroom house and I occupy one bedroom and the other bed it is
:05:42. > :05:47.for my son who I get once a fortnight. Is that a spare room?
:05:47. > :05:53.it is occupied, it is for my son. But the Government does not see it
:05:53. > :06:01.that way, so Michael has to pay for the spare room. The suggestion is
:06:01. > :06:07.the work more, you take in a lodger, or you move. What is your chance?
:06:07. > :06:13.would take David Cameron in to see how he likes it. You want David
:06:13. > :06:18.Cameron as a lodger? Yes I want him to live in the real world. Tudhoe
:06:18. > :06:24.Moor is an example of what is going on in the North East. It is the
:06:25. > :06:29.same in these flats. 60 people will have their benefit reduced. One of
:06:29. > :06:35.them is 19 year-old Jade Widdowson who suffers from ADHD, but her life
:06:35. > :06:41.is on the up. I have been here three-and a-half weeks. It is my
:06:41. > :06:46.first home, it is my rules, and it is easier as well. But there is
:06:46. > :06:52.this extra money you have to find. I know, it will be a struggle, but
:06:52. > :06:58.I know my mum will be there to help me if I need it. There are a lot of
:06:58. > :07:04.things we expect people may look to do. One of the things may be to pay
:07:04. > :07:10.the extra for the bedrooms and a lot of people will look to work or
:07:10. > :07:13.work more to afford to do that if they cannot already. I was talking
:07:13. > :07:19.to one of the Government ministers and I said how are people supposed
:07:19. > :07:24.to find the extra money? He said work more. It is easy for somebody
:07:24. > :07:29.to say. I am not allowed to go to work because of the sea because of
:07:29. > :07:34.my mental health. For them who can go to work, they are lucky, I wish
:07:34. > :07:37.I could. But there is another reason why the Government is
:07:38. > :07:43.bringing in the bedroom tax. will give people like us more
:07:43. > :07:46.chance to get a bigger home. Albert and Melanie Jacques lived on the
:07:46. > :07:52.Tudhoe Moor estate as well, but their three-bedroom house is not
:07:52. > :07:57.big enough. When we first came here, it was all right, but we started to
:07:57. > :08:03.grow. We are going to have six children. You manage, because you
:08:03. > :08:09.have to. Overcrowding like this is very rare in the North East. It is
:08:09. > :08:15.far more likely you will have spare bedrooms. But there is a problem, a
:08:15. > :08:18.chronic shortage of smaller houses. The numbers do not add up. That
:08:18. > :08:25.type of property does not exist across our patch in any great
:08:25. > :08:30.number. There is not the property available for people to downsize to.
:08:30. > :08:40.We have heard it is the same across the North. We looked at his snap
:08:40. > :08:47.shot. Lower than in County Durham has 1400 affected by the tax, but
:08:47. > :08:53.just four bedsits free. Redcar has 2500 properties, which under your
:08:53. > :08:57.criteria would be under used. They have just won a one-bedroom
:08:57. > :09:01.property for them to move into. When you look at the number of
:09:01. > :09:07.people affected in the North East, the surveys that have been done so
:09:07. > :09:12.just a quarter of people will want to think about downsizing. That
:09:12. > :09:16.compares with the number of new, social Letts there have been in the
:09:16. > :09:19.most recent year recorded. Basically we are going to have
:09:19. > :09:24.people coming to housing associations saying they cannot
:09:24. > :09:28.afford to pay the under occupation tax, please move me, and we have
:09:28. > :09:35.not got anywhere else to move them to. But they will have to pay the
:09:36. > :09:39.tax all the same. There is a shortage of small flats, housing
:09:39. > :09:44.associations for most of them down. Sue Brannigan is finding it
:09:44. > :09:51.impossible to find a flat near her family and friends in Spennymoor.
:09:51. > :09:56.Middleton, Teesdale, Horden, Eshwinning, Stanley, Blackhall,
:09:56. > :10:00.absolutely nothing. There is one in Spennymoor. If thousands of people
:10:00. > :10:05.like Sue have to move away from the places they had lived all their
:10:05. > :10:11.lives, what effect will that have quality of life on our street and
:10:11. > :10:16.our communities? We are all in it together. We have obligations not
:10:16. > :10:22.just to ourselves and families, but our communities. The Government is
:10:22. > :10:26.on about community spirit and they are breaking us apart. My sister
:10:26. > :10:32.lives down there and my brother lives over there and I live here.
:10:32. > :10:35.The families on this estate are all like that. We have a Government
:10:35. > :10:40.that does not look at people individually. All they want to do
:10:40. > :10:45.is reduce the deficit and they will do that in any way they can. Do you
:10:45. > :10:50.have a spare room in your house? actually do have a spare rib in my
:10:50. > :10:56.house. Is it not reasonable for everyone to have a spare room?
:10:56. > :11:03.difference is there are some people who are being supported by
:11:03. > :11:08.taxpayers and the question is how much should the taxpayer Sant of
:11:08. > :11:14.those bedrooms? People do not realise what is happening. There
:11:14. > :11:18.will be a lot of civil unrest. you think it is like the poll tax?
:11:18. > :11:24.It is worse than the poll tax. What you saw with the poll tax and the
:11:24. > :11:27.riots last year, it will be three times as bad. Sue is depressed and
:11:27. > :11:34.is still grieving over the death of her husband and does not do with
:11:34. > :11:39.the bedrooms full of memories. These go back to the 70s. I really
:11:39. > :11:49.should throw that out. That was a Mother's Day rose from one of my
:11:49. > :11:54.
:11:54. > :12:03.kids when he was eight. These are small memories as well. I just do
:12:03. > :12:13.not think it is fair for anybody to tell you when to... I think it is
:12:13. > :12:17.sad that I have these memories. few have a few, go to the website.
:12:17. > :12:24.-- If you have a view on the stories, go to the block.
:12:24. > :12:31.Still to come: How rising prices at the butcher's brought a bonanza for
:12:31. > :12:38.rustlers. They take our sheep away for winter grazing and we went back
:12:38. > :12:43.and a month later we found 32 had been stolen. One of the most
:12:43. > :12:48.shocking statistics I have heard recently is that there are 129
:12:48. > :12:53.former professional footballers in prison. The vast majority are under
:12:53. > :12:57.25, young men whose lives have hit a downward spiral after being
:12:57. > :13:02.released by clubs that did not think they would it make the grade.
:13:02. > :13:07.We asked football manager Phil Brown, who served his time with
:13:07. > :13:12.Hartlepool, to find out what is being done with lads who do not
:13:12. > :13:19.realise their footballing dreams. Every young lad who plays academy
:13:19. > :13:28.football plays to dream. Dream about playing at great stadiums,
:13:28. > :13:33.Old Trafford, St James' Park, or displays. And who can blame them?
:13:33. > :13:39.There is nothing quite like the experience of playing in front of a
:13:39. > :13:44.full house at fantastic arenas like this. But sadly, pour over 98% of
:13:44. > :13:48.them, that dream at one ever come true. That is when the harsh
:13:49. > :13:55.reality kicks in. We all think we are going to make it and very few
:13:55. > :13:59.think it is not going to happen. I was one of the fortunate ones.
:14:00. > :14:05.are a Premiership club and you have to find the best, so there is going
:14:05. > :14:10.to be a large amount of fall-out. Football academies sign up boys as
:14:10. > :14:15.young as eight, but can release them at any point. Some get very
:14:15. > :14:20.close, possibly a full-time contract at 18, but the ones to go
:14:20. > :14:26.all the way are exceptionally rare. For those who do not, the
:14:26. > :14:30.disappointment can be shattering. You think it is the end of the
:14:30. > :14:36.world and you may be start knocking about with the wrong groups of lads
:14:36. > :14:41.and fall into crime and stuff like that. Football should do a lot more
:14:41. > :14:48.for them when they came out of the game. Michael was a promising young
:14:48. > :14:53.goalkeeper, but when his dream ended, he turned to crime. It was a
:14:53. > :14:59.mind set and I was thinking, I should have that, and I want it.
:14:59. > :15:04.The only way I was getting it at that time was through crime and the
:15:04. > :15:09.crime I was involved in was selling drugs. Michael was a rising star
:15:09. > :15:14.with the Liverpool schoolboys and eventually played for Tranmere. But
:15:14. > :15:18.when he walked away from the game, he walked into trouble. Drug
:15:18. > :15:26.dealing landed him in prison for seven years and that is when he
:15:26. > :15:29.realised the full extent of football's problems. I know some
:15:29. > :15:37.people at all different levels and some of them are actively involved
:15:37. > :15:41.in dealing with drugs. I know the ones who have been caught.
:15:41. > :15:48.fully reformed he has set up an organisation designed to help young
:15:48. > :15:55.players whose football dreams have come to a premature end. Based at
:15:55. > :15:58.Liverpool University, it already has the backing of the Professional
:15:58. > :16:06.Footballers' charity, the Ministry of Justice and Liverpool City
:16:06. > :16:11.Council. I want it to be a safety net. If a lad goes to Liverpool and
:16:11. > :16:16.he goes to what still, and he does not end up getting another team he
:16:16. > :16:23.comes to us and we interact with him and getting a coaching course,
:16:23. > :16:28.a construction course, getting a job. We could offer a bit more,
:16:28. > :16:34.showing them real-life and what will happen if they go down another
:16:34. > :16:39.avenue. Jamie Carragher has just announced his retirement after a
:16:39. > :16:45.fantastic career. He used to play Sunday League football with Michael.
:16:45. > :16:49.But while Michael was in jail, Jamie was winning England caps and
:16:49. > :16:52.the Champions League. Jamie is backing the project and invited
:16:52. > :16:57.Michael to talk to some of Liverpool's brightest young stars
:16:57. > :17:03.about the pitfalls that could lie ahead. Did the seniors sit down and
:17:03. > :17:10.give them advice? Yes, that happens. That is my job, the experienced
:17:10. > :17:17.players. But you do not want them to think that you think they are
:17:17. > :17:21.not going to make it, but the statistics show that it happens.
:17:21. > :17:26.The standard is so high, they have got to be thinking about things
:17:26. > :17:30.like that. It is always in the back of my mind that if you come to the
:17:30. > :17:36.end of the contract, you are not going to make it and you have got
:17:36. > :17:41.nothing else left to do in life. There are some players who are not
:17:41. > :17:45.making it and coming out of football. For too long, many young
:17:45. > :17:55.footballers ignored their education while chasing their dreams, but
:17:55. > :17:56.
:17:56. > :18:00.nowadays, clubs are more aware of We have to put things into context.
:18:00. > :18:03.What do I mean by context? We think we've got a responsibility to
:18:03. > :18:06.develop them holistically, so it's not just the football side of
:18:06. > :18:09.development, but it is them as people as well. We organise a day
:18:09. > :18:14.release programme which is for everybody now, down to under 10-
:18:14. > :18:17.year-old. As part of that day, we, as well as coach on the football
:18:17. > :18:24.side, they also receive an hour's English and an hour's maths, to
:18:24. > :18:30.replace and to support the work they do in school. Have you ever
:18:30. > :18:34.thought about a plan B? I'd like to think that I would go to another
:18:34. > :18:37.club but it is always in the back of my mind when it comes to that
:18:37. > :18:41.time and it is quite scary, I suppose. I think about it a lot.
:18:41. > :18:44.You've just got to stick with it because this helps you in case you
:18:44. > :18:47.don't make it as a football player. You can also go on to further
:18:47. > :18:50.education if anything else. academy is rightly proud of the
:18:50. > :18:54.players who have made it through the ranks and into the first team
:18:54. > :18:58.but there are also 11 who were not given contracts, who have gone on
:18:58. > :19:01.to university, with five more currently studying in America. The
:19:01. > :19:07.vast majority will not do either and they need to be prepared for
:19:07. > :19:17.the inevitable. It is a great opportunity for them. While they
:19:17. > :19:17.
:19:17. > :19:21.are in here, embrace it, enjoy it. But it could come to an end. We've
:19:21. > :19:24.got to educate the parents so that when he walks through the door, he
:19:24. > :19:30.won't necessarily in �1 million. Enjoy what you're doing now but it
:19:30. > :19:34.might not continue. This might not be the kind of place that most
:19:34. > :19:39.young lads have in mind when they talk about living the dream but
:19:39. > :19:42.this is the sort of ground that most professionals come to work.
:19:42. > :19:46.Even playing at this level is beyond the vast majority of who
:19:46. > :19:56.aspire to be a professional. If you are released by a Fleetwood,
:19:56. > :19:57.
:19:57. > :20:00.Rochdale, a Hartlepool or a Carlisle, you still need a plan B.
:20:00. > :20:04.Jamie Milligan was released when he was younger but he is back in
:20:04. > :20:07.League football with Fleetwood. He has already got a business set up
:20:07. > :20:13.for when he eventually retires. When you do get released, you're
:20:13. > :20:18.thinking it is the manager's fault, the coach's fault. But as I get
:20:18. > :20:21.older, and realise it is my fault. My advice to lads would be look
:20:21. > :20:25.into doing something while you're still playing because it can end
:20:26. > :20:29.tomorrow. It is advice that his manager endorses. There is only so
:20:29. > :20:32.much that you can do, as a sport. Individuals have to take
:20:32. > :20:37.responsibility for their lives and it is a two-way street. You need to
:20:37. > :20:41.be offered help and it is up to you whether you take it or not. One of
:20:41. > :20:44.the newest players is Gerard Kinsella, Michael's younger brother.
:20:44. > :20:48.He was released by Everton and then got a serious injury as he was
:20:48. > :20:52.about to sign for Plymouth. He was in danger of going down the same
:20:52. > :20:57.path as his brother. I had nowhere to go, no football to go to. I
:20:57. > :21:01.started knocking around with the lads by ours. They were not up to
:21:01. > :21:10.much good so it could easily have happened. I was associated with
:21:10. > :21:12.those people. I should have been in football. It was Michael who
:21:12. > :21:16.intervened, getting him a part-time job and some qualifications. That
:21:16. > :21:25.was all through On Side. It has given me an education, it has put
:21:25. > :21:28.me through a personal training course. Level two, level three. If
:21:28. > :21:32.the football doesn't work out, I've got something to fall back on.
:21:32. > :21:35.inevitable that the majority of young lads will not make it to be
:21:35. > :21:38.very top but it is a long way down. It's encouraging to know that at
:21:38. > :21:48.last, there are plans to catch those who fall. It is certainly
:21:48. > :21:53.
:21:53. > :22:02.You might have thought sheep rustling was an old-fashioned crime
:22:02. > :22:05.but in fact, cases have more than doubled since 2010. It's thought
:22:05. > :22:08.that the rise in the price of lamb has made selling on stolen animals
:22:08. > :22:11.destined for the dinner table more lucrative and as Toby Foster
:22:11. > :22:21.discovers in the countryside, it is a battle to stay one step ahead of
:22:21. > :22:22.
:22:22. > :22:25.The north of England boasts mile upon mile of stunning countryside.
:22:25. > :22:30.As well as beautiful views it provides a living for those who
:22:30. > :22:33.raise animals and work the land. But this vast countryside also
:22:33. > :22:36.provides a great hiding place for people who aren't so keen on an
:22:36. > :22:46.honest day's work. The thieves who are targeting farmers and their
:22:46. > :22:50.stock. We took our sheep away for winter grazing. We went back a
:22:50. > :22:55.month later to take them away and we found 32 of them had been stolen.
:22:55. > :22:58.Martin Mitchell is a hill farmer in County Durham. All his sheep were
:22:58. > :23:08.insured but the loss of them is more than just financial. Not all
:23:08. > :23:09.
:23:09. > :23:13.sheep are the same. The sheep on your moorland, they will stay on
:23:13. > :23:16.the land you own. You couldn't just go out and buy sheep and put them
:23:16. > :23:19.on that fell. They would wander off and stray. You wouldn't see them
:23:19. > :23:24.again. Martin's animals disappeared without trace. He's now rebuilding
:23:24. > :23:27.his flock and stepping up security especially during the winter months.
:23:27. > :23:34.Thefts might be easier during long, winter nights but this is a year
:23:34. > :23:38.round problem. In the last two years, cases of rustling have more
:23:38. > :23:46.than doubled and it's a costly business. That's �800 of my money
:23:46. > :23:50.that's just been taken from me. Kevin Wilson knows what's it's like
:23:50. > :23:52.to be on the wrong end of the rural crime wave. He farms out of the
:23:52. > :23:59.small village of Blubberhouses in North Yorkshire but rents fields
:23:59. > :24:03.all over the county to graze his sheep. We go round on Sunday
:24:03. > :24:10.morning checking stock. I realised that a vehicle had been through a
:24:10. > :24:13.gateway. In this field, there were 200 feeding lambs. I gathered the
:24:13. > :24:23.lambs up in the field, counted them and realised approximately 10 had
:24:23. > :24:33.gone missing. Amazingly, within a few days, the police had tracked
:24:33. > :24:36.
:24:36. > :24:39.down his sheep. It was in that area between those trees and the river
:24:39. > :24:42.where they were recovered. It was less than two miles as the crow
:24:42. > :24:51.flies from where they'd gone. It was an isolated spot. Down there,
:24:51. > :24:57.Every animal has to be tagged. what happened to the thieves who
:24:57. > :25:07.stole them? They did a flit, they'd gone the following morning.
:25:07. > :25:11.have sheep become such a popular target for thieves? Particularly
:25:11. > :25:14.now we are seeing rustling, because the price of meat is going up. When
:25:14. > :25:16.you've got hard times and food costs going up, you have
:25:16. > :25:24.effectively all this food into countryside fairly lightly
:25:24. > :25:27.protected. You would expect the rustling situation to increase.
:25:27. > :25:33.Stolen sheep are ending up on our dinner plates but there is a
:25:33. > :25:36.warning for anyone who thinks black market meat is a bargain. Some
:25:36. > :25:46.people think it may be very tempting but what is the hygiene
:25:46. > :25:49.situation? It's not as good a deal as you perhaps might think. Mark a
:25:49. > :25:55.is off to Clitherow market to follow up reports of sheep thieves
:25:55. > :25:58.trying to do business there. wondered if you could check your
:25:58. > :26:08.computer records to see if this individual has carried out any
:26:08. > :26:08.
:26:08. > :26:11.transactions here. We had one over the top... Mark compares notes with
:26:11. > :26:14.a colleague from Lancashire police who hit the headlines with their
:26:14. > :26:18.first conviction for sheep rustling in a hundred years. We traced them
:26:18. > :26:23.to County Durham and then we got them on a DNA. Then back to a small
:26:23. > :26:31.village called Chipping. And those sheep belonged to farmer Robin Dean.
:26:31. > :26:34.When did you first notice you were missing 55 sheep? I'd gone at seven
:26:34. > :26:41.o'clock in the morning to feed them. There were only two left in the
:26:41. > :26:45.field! So I immediately knew there was something amiss. So you phoned
:26:45. > :26:49.the police. Did you ever think you'd see your sheep again? No, I
:26:49. > :26:55.have to admit I didn't really. Even though they were in lamb, I thought
:26:55. > :27:03.they'd be slaughtered and used for meat. If that had happened there'd
:27:03. > :27:06.be no trace of them. And that's where DC Elaine Smalley comes in.
:27:06. > :27:12.Officers attended a farm in Durham where Mr Dean was able to identify
:27:12. > :27:16.his sheep. That led to the arrest of two people for the theft of them
:27:16. > :27:20.but one of the people was maintaining that he'd bred them. So
:27:20. > :27:24.what we did was we DNA-ed the sheep which proved that they'd been bred
:27:24. > :27:28.at this farm. Were you surprised when the police suggested dna
:27:28. > :27:34.testing? Yes, I was actually. It was quite funny that we had to go
:27:35. > :27:38.to those lengths. I think he thought I was bonkers but I
:27:38. > :27:48.explained it was something we had to do to get that to court so that
:27:48. > :27:48.
:27:48. > :27:52.someone would be brought to justice as a result of the theft. Over in
:27:52. > :27:57.North Yorkshire, Mark does make an arrest and a man is charged but a
:27:57. > :27:59.few months down the line the case is dropped at court. And neither of
:27:59. > :28:09.the two thieves who stole Robin Dean's sheep received custodial
:28:09. > :28:11.sentences either. These sentences, for stealing �15,000 worth of sheep,
:28:11. > :28:14.there'll be some farmers who think those sentences are nowhere near
:28:14. > :28:17.stiff enough. That's right. Having spoken to some of the farming
:28:17. > :28:27.community, they've said, will that deter would-be sheep thieves? I
:28:27. > :28:27.
:28:27. > :28:31.think not. It's always at the back of your mind when you leave stock
:28:31. > :28:35.in a field. You think maybe, will they be there when we come to load
:28:35. > :28:45.them back up? You have to keep your fingers crossed and hope you are
:28:45. > :28:46.