:00:19. > :00:27.This sounds like a system that is close to breakdown. Patients would
:00:27. > :00:31.be horrified. But the bosses insist we are safe
:00:31. > :00:35.on their wards. This is a good hospital, we are not
:00:35. > :00:41.about to reduce the level and range of services.
:00:41. > :00:46.30 years on, and can an amateur Tyneside photographer track down
:00:46. > :00:52.the stars of his show? Thigh did not take names, I don't
:00:52. > :00:57.know why. It is a real detective hunt.
:00:57. > :01:07.Stories from the heart of the North East and Cumbria. This is Inside
:01:07. > :01:19.
:01:19. > :01:22.Out. Shortages of beds and staff, morale at rock bottom and a
:01:22. > :01:24.financial crisis. That's what we've been told is the situation at
:01:24. > :01:34.Cumberland Infirmary here in Carlisle and the West Cumberland
:01:34. > :01:59.
:01:59. > :02:01.Infirmary in Carlisle, together with the West Cumberland Hospital
:02:01. > :02:04.in Whitehaven, make up the North Cumbria University Hospitals Trust.
:02:04. > :02:07.Forced to pay back millions in Private Finance Initiative payments
:02:07. > :02:10.for this new hospital, and with a savings target of 15 million this
:02:10. > :02:12.year, the Trust says it provides safe, high-quality care. But we
:02:12. > :02:15.have been passed information which hospital staff say is evidence
:02:15. > :02:18.that's not what patients are always getting. Lets start at Cumberland
:02:18. > :02:21.Infirmary. For five months up to April this year staff in A&E kept a
:02:21. > :02:24.log of incidents. They wanted their own record of the problems they
:02:24. > :02:26.were dealing with. It makes shocking reading. This is an entry
:02:26. > :02:29.from October 2010: "Patient with suspected meningitis unmonitored in
:02:29. > :02:32."psych" cubicle". "lady with PV bleed assessed in corridor and
:02:32. > :02:36.collapsed prior to being put on trolley." So, just let me explain
:02:36. > :02:39.what this means. The first case appears to refer to a patient with
:02:39. > :02:44.suspected meningitis, a potentially fatal infection, who is left, with
:02:44. > :02:47.no supervision, in a cubicle. The second refers to a woman with a PV
:02:47. > :02:55.bleed, that's a vaginal bleed, who is close to collapse, and is
:02:55. > :02:59.assessed in a corridor! So what's going on? To find out I've spoken
:02:59. > :03:05.to staff at most levels in the hospitals. Many fear being
:03:05. > :03:09.disciplined for talking to us, so actors speak their words.
:03:09. > :03:12.haven't got enough nurses on the shift to cover everywhere. We can
:03:12. > :03:14.have potentially three people in resus, three people having heart
:03:14. > :03:18.attacks, strokes, breathing difficulties. People are being left
:03:18. > :03:23.in cubicles because we can't keep an eye on them. We're not ignoring
:03:24. > :03:28.them. But the priority has to be the people in resus. That would be
:03:28. > :03:31.worrying if it was a rare event, but it appears, it wasn't. The log,
:03:31. > :03:41.filled in by the A&E nurses, lists page after page of shortages,
:03:41. > :03:42.
:03:42. > :03:48.delays and risks. Here's a flavour: January: dangerous nursing
:03:48. > :03:51.conditions in A&E. Two patients with chest pain on back corridor.
:03:51. > :03:58.February: department unsafe, none of children handed over as none
:03:58. > :04:01.triaged. One quite unwell, encephalitis? Temperature of 38.8.
:04:01. > :04:04.April: patient in red category waited 3 hours 40 minutes to see
:04:04. > :04:10.doctor. Number of patients exceeded number of trolleys. Ambulance crews
:04:10. > :04:17.waiting in corridor. At times, we've been told, A&E at Carlisle
:04:17. > :04:21.resembled a hospital during a major incident. Basically, if they're
:04:21. > :04:24.going to be alive for the next five minutes you're going to look at the
:04:24. > :04:27.next person. Like in london when there was a bomb. It's that sort of
:04:28. > :04:32.fight or flight response. You're just looking at people the bare
:04:32. > :04:38.minimum and then look at something else. The nurses' union was so
:04:38. > :04:41.worried it handed the log to the Trust earlier this year. We were
:04:41. > :04:44.informed that they would ask the chief operating officer to conduct
:04:44. > :04:48.an internal investigation to some of the situations you've described.
:04:48. > :04:51.Unfortunately we've had no further feedback. When we asked them
:04:51. > :04:55.they've gone very quiet. So we don't believe that that internal
:04:55. > :04:59.investigation has taken place and that's very disappointing. That's
:04:59. > :05:07.disturbing. From the information we have that log was kept before my
:05:07. > :05:13.arrival. I will need to investigate to see what happened in terms of
:05:13. > :05:16.addressing their concerns. The RCN say they were told that the chief
:05:16. > :05:19.operating officer would investigate and they've heard nothing? Well,
:05:19. > :05:21.the chief operating officer is no longer here. With the revised
:05:21. > :05:26.online systems that we've introduced there's been an increase
:05:26. > :05:30.now in reporting of concerns from staff and we think that's positive.
:05:30. > :05:37.But according to the nurses they're still not being listened to - and
:05:37. > :05:40.worse. Nurses are regularly telling us that they're filling in incident
:05:40. > :05:43.forms in and they're not having a response to those forms. And some
:05:43. > :05:46.staff genuinely feel that they're being bullied and told not to fill
:05:46. > :05:51.the forms in when they've not got sufficient staff or if they've not
:05:51. > :05:53.been able to give care to patients. I don't believe that whatsoever. We
:05:53. > :06:00.have very open well established reporting systems and we receive
:06:00. > :06:03.information all the time about potential safety and quality issues.
:06:03. > :06:07.There are concerns raised with us that staff feel under pressure not
:06:07. > :06:14.to report incidents and in one case felt they were even being bullied
:06:14. > :06:20.into this. I don't have any evidence for that and if i did i
:06:20. > :06:30.would be very unhappy if that was the case. So if this is brought to
:06:30. > :06:44.
:06:44. > :06:47.your attention in detail you will act? Absolutely. Many of the staff
:06:47. > :06:51.say the real problem, and the reason for the shortage of beds and
:06:51. > :06:54.staff is a programme called Closer to Home that aimed to treat more
:06:54. > :06:57.people out of hospital and so reduce the need for beds. It really
:06:57. > :07:00.hasn't worked in Cumbria. It's had catastrophic effects on the two
:07:00. > :07:03.hospitals. Starving them of funding. The numbers have gone back up again
:07:03. > :07:06.and the complexity of cases has gone up. Some numbers have fallen
:07:06. > :07:08.and some have not in our experience. And we'll be discussing our results
:07:08. > :07:12.of closer to home with the commissioners for the health
:07:12. > :07:15.service in Cumbria. So is there a shortage of staff and beds then if
:07:15. > :07:20.the numbers are greater than you expected? No. There's no issue with
:07:20. > :07:23.staff numbers or beds? No. That's not what the nursing staff tell us.
:07:23. > :07:26.They say they're now frightened to open wards when patients are stuck
:07:26. > :07:29.in corridors and cubicles. It's a blame game. If the duty matron
:07:29. > :07:32.opens beds, especially over the weekend, they're hauled over the
:07:32. > :07:34.coals by the business managers on Monday morning. There is that fear
:07:34. > :07:38.of managers. It's more intimidated, harangued and harassed. Why did you
:07:38. > :07:45.do that? Why did you open these beds? Why didn't you staff it
:07:45. > :07:48.properly? We do open and close beds as demand requires it. So I don't
:07:48. > :07:53.see a problem with that. I would be disappointed if staff were told off
:07:53. > :07:59.for opening beds. It's about proper use of resources to meet demands in
:07:59. > :08:02.patient care. The staff tell us other departments, not just A&E in
:08:02. > :08:10.Carlisle and Whitehaven, are also feeling the strain. Like
:08:10. > :08:13.Outpatients. If somebody needs to be admitted more often than not
:08:13. > :08:18.they'll have to wait sometimes most of the day on an examination couch
:08:18. > :08:21.until the bed becomes available. We don't have the nursing staff spare.
:08:21. > :08:26.If somebody needs their pain sorting out it will have to wait
:08:26. > :08:30.until they're seen on the ward. Now operating theatre nurses, on-
:08:30. > :08:40.call for emergencies, are helping on wards. They say they don't have
:08:40. > :08:47.
:08:47. > :08:50.the skills, and are given patients That pager goes off for an
:08:50. > :08:53.emergency I can't say to a patient you stay there, unsteady on your
:08:53. > :08:55.feet, fall, break your hip, I've got to go. Luckily nothing's
:08:55. > :09:00.happened yet. We have had near misses.
:09:00. > :09:03.Is that really an effective way of using the staff? As you present it
:09:03. > :09:06.no, but I'm sure that the staff themselves and their managers will
:09:06. > :09:16.be advising very strongly on safety and quality grounds about how best
:09:16. > :09:19.
:09:19. > :09:27.to organise that service. Hospital bosses have hit back
:09:27. > :09:30.angrily at claims that patient care will suffer. Recently the Trust
:09:30. > :09:33.announced it's in a financial crisis and must make more cuts. So
:09:33. > :09:36.can senior staff guarantee there won't be serious implications?
:09:36. > :09:39.not at all, particularly in the A&E departments. We're quite short on
:09:39. > :09:42.numbers of consultants normally compared to other comparative units.
:09:42. > :09:44.We're much more vulnerable, and patients are much more vulnerable
:09:44. > :09:48.to any further cuts than say an average district general hospital.
:09:48. > :09:50.And I know, again, Whitehaven A&E, they feel they really are right on
:09:50. > :09:56.the edge of consultant and middle grade medical cover in particular
:09:56. > :10:02.as they are now, never mind with any further cuts. This sounds like
:10:02. > :10:09.a system that is close to breakdown? Yeah, I can't deny that.
:10:09. > :10:12.Patients would be horrified to hear you say that. Yes.
:10:12. > :10:15.What's on everyone's mind is the situation at Mid Staffs Trust,
:10:15. > :10:19.where up to 1,200 people may have lost their lives because they put
:10:19. > :10:27.cost-cutting and targets before patient care. The clinicians say
:10:27. > :10:30.they're not there yet. We could possibly be in a situation
:10:30. > :10:32.that mid staffs were in in the run- up to that where clinicians and
:10:32. > :10:39.nurses were flagging up their concerns through the proper
:10:39. > :10:46.channels. And great concern was being expressed and clearly Mid
:10:46. > :10:50.Staffs got it wrong, they didn't listen to those responses.
:10:50. > :10:53.So, It isn't Mid Staffs NOW. And the consultants believe they still
:10:53. > :10:56.provide high quality care - but it's exceptional for a consultant,
:10:56. > :11:03.who speaks for medical staff at Carlisle, to voice his concerns in
:11:03. > :11:07.public like this. But the Trust doesn't appear to have heard.
:11:07. > :11:11.They are not saying that. They did not say that to me last evening.
:11:11. > :11:15.And I met with them. All of them. They didn't say that. And there was
:11:15. > :11:21.no serious suggestion that what we have here are early signs of a Mid
:11:21. > :11:25.Staffordshire situation. There's no evidence to say that we have safety
:11:25. > :11:28.and quality concerns. We're a high performing hospital in those areas.
:11:28. > :11:35.And there's a good relationship between the Trust board and the
:11:35. > :11:39.consultant staff at the hospital. So how has all this affected
:11:39. > :11:43.morale? Staff are on anti-depressants
:11:43. > :11:46.because they are cracking up. The nursing staff will look after the
:11:46. > :11:52.patients to the hilt, but it's starting to crack and you'll see
:11:52. > :11:59.the cracks over the 6 to 12 months coming in our reports. The teams
:11:59. > :12:05.are fragmenting and breaking up. If things really cannot be resolved,
:12:05. > :12:11.yes, I will leave. To a post where i can work more effectively. It all
:12:11. > :12:17.sounds like rats on a sinking ship. It is. That aspect is probably the
:12:17. > :12:19.most worrying thing. We've recently lost two key consultants.
:12:19. > :12:23.I think the staff survey, where presumably you got these results,
:12:23. > :12:26.it's a snapshot of a moment in time. We have a process undergoing at the
:12:26. > :12:28.moment where the Trust is being acquired. Some staff will feel
:12:28. > :12:36.uncertain about that, some will choose to seek greater security
:12:36. > :12:40.elsewhere. I think that's perfectly normal and that's their decision.
:12:40. > :12:44.The Trust is in financial crisis. It's lost a chief executive and
:12:44. > :12:48.other senior managers in the last few months. And it's looking for a
:12:48. > :12:53.Foundation Trust to take it over. Perhaps the deluge of bad news
:12:53. > :12:56.stories prompted it to try to reverse the trend. In an e-mail
:12:56. > :12:59.entitled "Good News Stories" leaked to Inside Out 10 days ago it asks
:12:59. > :13:06.senior nurses to list "anything new nurses are doing", "anything new"
:13:06. > :13:11.in their departments. They want to issue "as many positive press
:13:11. > :13:14.releases as we can" over the next two weeks.
:13:14. > :13:18.It kind of smacks of desperation, of trying to take attention away
:13:18. > :13:21.from the bad? Because the media is only interested in bad news. It's
:13:21. > :13:24.what makes good television. It's what sells newspapers, you know.
:13:24. > :13:28.There's a lot of good things going on in this Trust.
:13:28. > :13:31.Staff tell us what lies at the bottom of all this is a longer term
:13:31. > :13:34.problem involving money and how it's spent. It's claimed the
:13:34. > :13:37.Carlisle and Whitehaven hospitals have been starved of cash by NHS
:13:37. > :13:43.Cumbria, the Primary Care Trust, while it lavishes money on other
:13:43. > :13:53.services. They say between 2007 and this financial year North Cumbria
:13:53. > :13:55.Trust's spending fell by almost 9% to around �155 million. At the same
:13:55. > :13:57.time "other secondary care", which includes elderly care and
:13:57. > :14:07.specialist services at other hospitals, rocketed by almost 50%
:14:07. > :14:10.to �284 million. How on earth can you justify a 50%
:14:10. > :14:17.increase in spending on other secondary care over the course of
:14:17. > :14:19.four years while decreasing the spending to the local hospitals.
:14:19. > :14:24.While they are spending they've increasing ED spending on
:14:24. > :14:29.everything they fund apart from the acute hospitals. -- why are they
:14:30. > :14:33.spending increasing amounts of money on everything. They've
:14:33. > :14:35.received the normal tariff which they get for doing the work they do.
:14:35. > :14:38.They have had additional supplements over the last three
:14:38. > :14:41.years amounting to 70 million which the other trusts in the patch
:14:41. > :14:44.haven't received. The biggest increase for us in I think it's
:14:44. > :14:46.non-NHS spend has been the huge rise in continuing care allocations
:14:46. > :14:49.and these are predominantly nursing care payments made to very frail
:14:49. > :14:54.elderly patients with multiple needs and unfortunately that's a
:14:54. > :14:57.national challenge and that's going to get worse, not better.
:14:57. > :15:02.We showed our evidence to the MP whose constituency includes the
:15:02. > :15:04.West Cumberland Infirmary. The pressures right now seem
:15:04. > :15:07.absolutely intolerable. I know that this Trust is full of people
:15:07. > :15:10.absolutely commited to the ideals of the NHS, absolutely committed to
:15:10. > :15:19.top quality patient care. And right now they're really suffering, and
:15:19. > :15:25.patient care looks like it's starting to be affected.
:15:25. > :15:31.This is a good hospital. We provide high quality care. We have done for
:15:31. > :15:35.many many years. We will continue to do so. We're not about to reduce
:15:35. > :15:37.the level and range of services that are provided to you.
:15:37. > :15:40.Tonight we've presented a disturbing picture of life inside
:15:40. > :15:44.the North Cumbria University Hospitals Trust. A picture painted
:15:44. > :15:54.by its own staff. They warn the service is approaching breaking
:15:54. > :15:54.
:15:54. > :16:03.point. Today a survey listed North Cumbria as one of 19 trusts in
:16:04. > :16:08.England with high mortality rates on two out of four basic measures.
:16:08. > :16:18.The trust says it is reviewing this with two teams of consultants and
:16:18. > :16:22.
:16:22. > :16:25.its medical director. Thirty years ago keen photographer Chris Mearns
:16:25. > :16:28.was working on a community project in Newcastle's West End when he
:16:28. > :16:30.decided to set up a makeshift photo booth so local people could take
:16:30. > :16:33.their own self-portraits. Over the years he couldn't help wondering
:16:33. > :16:37.what had become of those youngsters. It became his life-long ambition to
:16:37. > :16:40.one day track them down, but it was only this year - three decades on -
:16:40. > :16:44.that he seriously tried to find them. Would he succeed? Let's find
:16:44. > :16:50.out. It's 1981. And it's tough on the
:16:50. > :17:00.streets of Tyneside. The Specials release their melancholy Ghost Town.
:17:00. > :17:02.
:17:02. > :17:10.It goes to number 1 in the charts. Steel works were mothballed, there
:17:10. > :17:14.had been a new Conservative government, war looming.
:17:14. > :17:21.But behind the stereotype of a run- down West End there was fun to be
:17:21. > :17:26.had. Back then Chris Mearns was a community worker but with a passion
:17:26. > :17:35.for photography, so he created a makeshift photo booth. 30 years on
:17:36. > :17:42.he's back to his old haunts in Elswick Park.
:17:42. > :17:48.30 years. Yes, it is this corner here. We had the subject at the far
:17:48. > :17:56.end, light coming through the window, white sheets hanging. There
:17:56. > :18:03.are many photographs of Newcastle depicting a kind of war-zone. I
:18:03. > :18:13.would say, here is a rather old. When you squeeze it, that camera
:18:13. > :18:13.
:18:13. > :18:21.will take pictures. -- rubber old. Essentially I was after pretty much
:18:21. > :18:28.the look you see on the pictures, direct, not opinionated, just kids
:18:28. > :18:38.looking back at the camera and decided -- deciding what they would
:18:38. > :18:43.
:18:43. > :18:50.I said, take a picture, I am going to give you a moment, take your
:18:50. > :18:56.time, and I would her -- hand them the camera angle would stand
:18:56. > :19:01.outside. It is the stories which are the heart of the matter. It is
:19:01. > :19:07.irresistible when you look at the pictures, and you know how old they
:19:07. > :19:16.are, to wonder what people did. tracking them down three decades on
:19:16. > :19:22.is a daunting task. Chris has virtually no clues. Did not take
:19:22. > :19:29.names, don't know why. It is a real detective hunt. The clues are the
:19:29. > :19:34.faces. I am I go on -- going around places in the same geographical
:19:34. > :19:44.area, west Newcastle. I wonder if I could show you some
:19:44. > :19:45.
:19:45. > :19:55.pictures. I know his face. He is still around. I am not sure.
:19:55. > :19:56.
:19:56. > :20:01.might be a John. I don't know if it is the same person. It might not be.
:20:01. > :20:09.That is interesting. I wonder if I can give you some posters and you
:20:10. > :20:13.can get them around. Chris' quest even made the evening news. Perhaps
:20:13. > :20:20.you are one of the people who was snapped by a Tyneside photographer
:20:20. > :20:25.who wants to get back in touch and recreate the images 30 years later.
:20:25. > :20:33.This his one-man on a mission which he is determined will not prove
:20:33. > :20:37.impossible. -- and this is one man. If even a handful of those 100
:20:37. > :20:41.faces do get in touch, does Chris have any idea what will be
:20:41. > :20:46.revealed? I just don't know. I know some very sparky people who come
:20:46. > :20:52.from those places and I am sure there will be some tough stuff,
:20:52. > :20:59.some who are not alive now, who have problems, but I bet there are
:20:59. > :21:04.a lot to have good lives and what would look -- I just want to find
:21:04. > :21:07.out. What has changed since 1981 is technology. The internet and social
:21:07. > :21:16.media site means word is out and the kids, now adults 30 years wiser,
:21:16. > :21:22.are starting to get in touch. This is Martin I am coming to see
:21:22. > :21:29.and I have great hopes for him. He knows a lot of people and this is
:21:29. > :21:39.the first person I have met from the portraits. It is odd. I am
:21:39. > :21:45.nervous. I don't know how it is going to go.
:21:45. > :21:55.Evening. How are you doing? lovely to see you. You are the
:21:55. > :22:00.first person I have seen. Know what is really funny? I have not really
:22:00. > :22:06.thought about the photos in all that time. Then the thing came on
:22:06. > :22:14.the news and I thought, I would love to see those photos. How has
:22:14. > :22:18.the time passed? Without a care in the world. But life doesn't just
:22:18. > :22:26.bring highs - there are lows too and Marty was lucky to survive a
:22:26. > :22:30.car crash. A car came down the slip road, he hit me, I hit the outside
:22:30. > :22:36.lane and an articulated lorry. I fractured my skull and my shoulder
:22:36. > :22:39.and I was in a coma for a while. Who knows what tales the pictures
:22:39. > :22:44.may hold. Fortunately Marty can identify quite a few of them. One
:22:44. > :22:49.character does stand out because everyone knew him.
:22:49. > :22:52.The great Jimmy. Like Chris, Jimmy Forsythe was a keen photographer
:22:52. > :22:56.who documented the West End in the 1950s and '60s. His amateur snaps
:22:56. > :22:59.have become an iconic archive of this part of the city. When he
:22:59. > :23:03.found out Chris was doing his 1980s take on Elswick, well, he couldn't
:23:03. > :23:07.resist joining in. Chris meanwhile is close to achieving his life's
:23:07. > :23:11.ambition and he's put the word out for all those he'd contacted so far
:23:11. > :23:21.to come to Times Square in Newcastle. But fate had one more
:23:21. > :23:27.cruel twist in store. One that no- one could have predicted.
:23:27. > :23:32.My dad went cycling and had a heart attack. He was airlifted to the
:23:32. > :23:36.Freeman Hospital. Unfortunately, nothing could be done. He had held
:23:36. > :23:40.on to these photographs for 30 years until he could do them
:23:40. > :23:45.justice. It has been a massive part of his life over the past month and
:23:45. > :23:52.he was incredibly excited about what would happen with them. A week
:23:52. > :24:02.to go and everybody was coming up. An absolute tragedy. But by now the
:24:02. > :24:11.
:24:11. > :24:14.project had a momentum all of its That is it, guys, fantastic. Chris'
:24:14. > :24:24.family, friends, and the gang of 1981 all wanted to carry on with
:24:24. > :24:24.
:24:24. > :24:27.The Centre for Life will be the setting for the new makeshift
:24:27. > :24:30.photobooth and for the original subjects the present & the past are
:24:30. > :24:35.becoming a blur. I knew I must have been going somewhere special
:24:36. > :24:45.because I put the two favourite things on but I like. I showed a
:24:46. > :24:59.
:24:59. > :25:05.friend these pictures, and she said, I have realised I could not be me
:25:05. > :25:09.and I came out. I am gay. That is probably one of the high points of
:25:09. > :25:19.my life, everybody supports me, they are not bothered, I am still
:25:19. > :25:20.
:25:20. > :25:24.me. The reason I got involved with it is because it is a social
:25:24. > :25:29.history thing, not really a photography thing. It is just one
:25:29. > :25:35.of those projects that needs to be carried on all the everyday things
:25:35. > :25:39.that it focuses on will be lost forever. For Amanda life's gone
:25:39. > :25:42.full circle - growing up in the West End spurred her on to lead
:25:42. > :25:46.urban regeneration projects, like this one in Southampton.
:25:47. > :25:52.background I have, living in deprived areas, I have an
:25:52. > :25:56.understanding of the community and the barriers that they face and
:25:56. > :26:04.trying to improve themselves and hopefully I will help in some way
:26:04. > :26:08.in the regeneration. The second one is reasonable. I remember quite
:26:08. > :26:13.well and I still have the photo. For swimming instructor Trish it
:26:13. > :26:18.also meant moving away It's a warning sign: I looked around and I
:26:18. > :26:23.was a single parent then. And I realised that my life could be
:26:23. > :26:33.better if I moved to Jersey. We went with backpacks, not knowing if
:26:33. > :26:36.
:26:36. > :26:43.it would work or not, and it did work. I was nice, wasn't I? You
:26:43. > :26:53.have not changed. I recognise you. You were so much younger. You look
:26:53. > :26:54.
:26:54. > :27:00.just the same boat. -- the same, though. I was a bit of a tearaway
:27:00. > :27:04.when I was younger. I left school at 12 and ran away to London at 13
:27:05. > :27:10.and lived on the streets for quite a long time and became a drug
:27:10. > :27:14.addict. I finally decided to sort my head out, got off the drugs and
:27:14. > :27:22.decided I wanted to become an occupational therapist to help
:27:22. > :27:29.people off drugs, so I went to university, got a BSc. For Chris,
:27:29. > :27:34.this would have been a perfect day. They were just ordinary kids from
:27:34. > :27:39.an ordinary town. I think they have ripened. It would be lovely to
:27:39. > :27:49.photograph them again. But also I am very interested in their
:27:49. > :27:54.
:27:54. > :27:59.children. I think another Self I think it is a really good idea.
:27:59. > :28:03.It is just it -- a shame that Chris was not around to see the
:28:03. > :28:08.combination. I think it is wonderful that he has kept this all
:28:08. > :28:16.of these years, this small project he had going, and ABS -- actually
:28:16. > :28:22.done something about it, which is really good. The family are
:28:22. > :28:30.delighted. My dad would have been amazed by the turnout.
:28:30. > :28:36.Thank you! Some of the people in the original
:28:36. > :28:44.1981 pictures have not been found so the work continues. To find out