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:00:04. > :00:07.In the next half an hour: An old head on young shoulders. A Tyneside

:00:07. > :00:16.teenager reveals the painful secret she has kept for so long, and why

:00:16. > :00:21.children like her shouldn't stay silent. My father was given about

:00:21. > :00:25.the information for the support group for him, and my mother was

:00:25. > :00:28.given information about the support group for her, but I wasn't given

:00:28. > :00:33.anything. Northumbrian residents call for answers. Just what's going

:00:33. > :00:37.on behind closed doors at the council? It is just suspicious. Why

:00:37. > :00:44.not be open and honest and tell people what is going on? And the

:00:44. > :00:54.monster from the deep. Does Nessie have a Cumbrian cousin? That has

:00:54. > :01:08.

:01:08. > :01:11.Stories from the heart of the North She calls it her "little secret".

:01:11. > :01:19.For years as she grew up on Tyneside, Imogen didn't tell anyone

:01:19. > :01:22.she was caring for her mother. But now she wants people to hear what

:01:22. > :01:25.happened to her family in the hope it'll help thousands of other young

:01:25. > :01:35.carers to speak out and find support. So, this is Imogen's story,

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:01:36. > :01:40.I am imaging, I am 16, and I live with my mum and dad. I am like any

:01:40. > :01:44.other teenager, but I've been keeping a huge secret. I couldn't

:01:44. > :01:49.tell my friends, because I didn't understand and I didn't think they

:01:49. > :01:54.would understand. I am her mother and I should be looking after her.

:01:54. > :01:58.It is unfair that she has to carry this burden so early in life.

:01:58. > :02:04.now, I'm ready to talk about it. I know it is the only way I can make

:02:04. > :02:07.a difference. I do want to make a change and get this recognised.

:02:07. > :02:14.Because I do not want anyone else to go through what I have gone

:02:14. > :02:18.through. I had a happy childhood. But when I was nine years old, that

:02:18. > :02:23.changed forever. I can remember seeing my mum lying on the floor

:02:23. > :02:26.with nurses and stuff, keeping her down as she was being sedated. I

:02:26. > :02:30.didn't understand what was happening but my mum had been

:02:30. > :02:37.sectioned and spent weeks in a mental hospital. Since then, I have

:02:37. > :02:41.been her care and I've never told anyone about it. It is like having

:02:41. > :02:45.to walk around with an extra back pack every day, and having to hide

:02:45. > :02:50.it. So why did I keep it a secret for so long? In all honesty, I

:02:50. > :02:57.don't think it ever occurred to me to tell someone. I just didn't

:02:57. > :03:02.think it was the thing to do, so I just hit it. I just dressed like

:03:02. > :03:12.everyone else and put a smile on my face. I have got bipolar disorder.

:03:12. > :03:14.

:03:14. > :03:19.Your mood changes from one of elation and high spirits and

:03:19. > :03:24.Romania to one of deep depression - - mania. I think she was worried

:03:24. > :03:29.about mentioning it in case she did not get taken seriously or if

:03:29. > :03:34.people laughed at me. She doesn't really do much when she is

:03:34. > :03:39.depressed because she does not feel up to it. I just do stuff like the

:03:39. > :03:48.washing, the washing up, tidying the kitchen, trying to tidy the

:03:48. > :03:54.house. And the bathroom is my job. My dad splits it in half with me,

:03:54. > :03:58.instead of splitting it in three. Me and my dad have a close

:03:58. > :04:08.relationship, and we work quite well as a team of most of the time.

:04:08. > :04:11.

:04:11. > :04:15.This is a bit of a tall order. But The hardest part of being my

:04:15. > :04:20.mother's carer is not doing the dishes or cleaning the bathroom, it

:04:20. > :04:27.is the worry. I cannot sleep with my mum is still awake, because I

:04:27. > :04:31.worry in case she does something. Or in case she feels lonely,

:04:31. > :04:36.something like that. I just worry about her. I don't like her being

:04:36. > :04:43.on her own. She has, before gone and bought things on eBay at about

:04:43. > :04:48.3am. I worry about that happening. That tends to happen just in the

:04:48. > :04:54.mania. That is when I have to worry about it. We never used to worry

:04:54. > :04:58.about money. I had quite a successful career, actually. I had

:04:58. > :05:04.a well-paid job as a chartered accountant. So, financially, it

:05:04. > :05:08.made a drastic difference when I was unable to work. When I was

:05:08. > :05:13.little they both had very well paid jobs and I was at a private school,

:05:13. > :05:17.I was spoilt as a child. I know I was spoilt as a child. And it was

:05:17. > :05:22.hard to go from having a lot of money to not having a lot of money

:05:22. > :05:27.which caused me the most stress, because I wasn't used to it, but

:05:27. > :05:31.now we haven't got that much money I have kind of got used to it and I

:05:31. > :05:36.know we can survive without a ridiculous amount of money. When

:05:36. > :05:42.you are in a manic mood, you tend to have very grandiose ideas and

:05:42. > :05:47.schemes. She comes up with quite a lot of fantastic, zany ideas when

:05:47. > :05:52.she is manic, but they never really seemed to work out that well.

:05:52. > :05:58.bought about �10,000 worth of ball gowns with a business idea I had

:05:58. > :06:03.got. It didn't work out so well, so they are still in storage now.

:06:03. > :06:07.very nearly bought a JCB. Looking back on it it seems ridiculous,

:06:07. > :06:14.which is why I keep laughing. thought it was quite a small JCB,

:06:14. > :06:21.but it turned out to be a full size JCB. Flying pigs. Chameleon USP

:06:21. > :06:26.sticks. Bootees for babies. Robot guinea-pigs. I spent a large amount

:06:26. > :06:32.of money, which has left the fine - - family in financial difficulty

:06:32. > :06:36.and I did have to declare myself bankrupt. I'm just hoping he is

:06:36. > :06:41.going to behave today. I had to change schools because we could not

:06:41. > :06:46.afford the fees, and now my dad was a paper round and helps pay for

:06:46. > :06:50.Morocco, my only escape. I don't know where I would be without him,

:06:50. > :06:58.in all honesty. I see him every single day. I kind of rely on him

:06:58. > :07:02.to keep me calm and get through things. I can talk to Morocco about

:07:02. > :07:06.my secret life as a care when I can't tell anyone else. I talked to

:07:06. > :07:11.him quite a lot. I tell him about my day and how everything is going.

:07:11. > :07:18.He probably doesn't listen. But it is someone to tell it to, to get it

:07:18. > :07:22.off my chest. But talking to Morocco wasn't enough. A year ago I

:07:22. > :07:27.hit rock bottom. I have had times where I literally just wanted to

:07:27. > :07:36.crawl up in bed, fall asleep and never wake up because I didn't know

:07:36. > :07:42.what to do and I didn't think I Then I found out about this young

:07:42. > :07:48.carers group in North Shields. It has changed my life. For me, it is

:07:48. > :07:51.just about coming and relaxing, and it is just being around people that

:07:51. > :07:56.understand and are going through the same situation. You know they

:07:56. > :08:03.are always there if you need them. The main difference it has made is

:08:03. > :08:07.that it has made me feel a bit better about my situation. For the

:08:07. > :08:12.first time I could talk openly about being a young carer. It is a

:08:12. > :08:17.massive relief. I was ecstatic after I got back from the first

:08:17. > :08:23.meeting. I was so relieved to know that there were other people. I was

:08:23. > :08:28.literally bouncing around the house. It was like, I am not the only one.

:08:28. > :08:31.I can be normal, to an extent, anyway! It has made such a big

:08:31. > :08:35.difference to her, and I think if that had been there for her,

:08:35. > :08:41.especially when she was younger it would have given her a lot more

:08:41. > :08:45.confidence. There are around 700,000 young carers in this

:08:45. > :08:52.country like me, many of us falling through the cracks and no one seems

:08:52. > :08:59.to notice us. People are well aware in the mental health services of

:08:59. > :09:05.the fact we have a daughter, but I had no information given to me at

:09:05. > :09:09.all as to what support would be available for her. None of them

:09:09. > :09:14.clocked on that this child had been losing weight through to illness,

:09:14. > :09:17.this Charlies are using -- losing education through illness and this

:09:17. > :09:23.child is losing after her -- looking after her mother. Could

:09:23. > :09:27.these things be related? I struggled for six years without any

:09:27. > :09:33.support. I want to stop this happening to other kids. That is

:09:33. > :09:37.why I am telling you my story. I am off to London to meet Moyra Fraser,

:09:37. > :09:40.who owns a carers charity. My dad was giving information about a

:09:40. > :09:44.support group for him, and my mother was given information about

:09:44. > :09:48.a support group for her, but I wasn't given anything. What

:09:48. > :09:53.happened to you ease, unfortunately, really quite common and I'm sorry

:09:53. > :09:56.to say that, we hear it all the time. And I think that is a key

:09:56. > :10:01.point that we need to get across to the professionals involved, the

:10:01. > :10:05.social workers, the doctors, the psychiatric nurses. Have a look at

:10:05. > :10:09.who else is in that house. Have a look at who is supporting the

:10:09. > :10:15.person with the mental health problem. What are you doing to make

:10:15. > :10:18.a change for young carers? Last week when we went to Number Ten, a

:10:18. > :10:21.young carer came with us and spoke to a number of ministers and gave a

:10:21. > :10:26.letter to the Prime Minister about their experiences, which she

:10:26. > :10:30.responded to. We have also been working with schools. We would like

:10:30. > :10:33.to see every school having a member of staff who was responsible for

:10:33. > :10:39.young carers and make sure that everyone in the school, pupils and

:10:39. > :10:42.teachers, know that they need support. I think the meeting has

:10:42. > :10:47.gone really well and I've learnt a lot more than I knew before. She

:10:47. > :10:51.has invited me to come back to talk to some MPs, which I would find

:10:51. > :11:01.amazing. A year ago I never thought I would do this and I found it hard

:11:01. > :11:03.

:11:03. > :11:05.to talk about the past, but I think I can make a change. And if having

:11:05. > :11:08.seen Imogen's report you'd like more information on organisations

:11:08. > :11:17.that can help, the details are coming up at the end of the

:11:17. > :11:20.It should be a straightforward question. Why would a council step

:11:20. > :11:23.in and take over the running of the organisation managing 8,000 of its

:11:23. > :11:26.former council houses in Northumberland? But even though so

:11:26. > :11:28.many families' homes are involved no-one seems to know what's going

:11:28. > :11:38.on. Or what the future holds. Rumours abound. Tonight I'm going

:11:38. > :11:41.

:11:41. > :11:45.to try and piece together the real Homes for Northumberland, or HfN,

:11:45. > :11:48.manages 8,500 houses in Alnwick and Blyth Valley. It's been running

:11:48. > :11:55.these former council homes for two and a half years. And the tenants

:11:55. > :12:00.we've spoken to are impressed. very happy with Homes For

:12:00. > :12:04.Northumberland. We felt empowered because they listened to us.

:12:04. > :12:07.the workmen have been Grade A1. imagine their shock when last

:12:07. > :12:09.December a boardroom battle ended in Northumberland County Council

:12:09. > :12:15.suspending the Managing Director, sacking independent board members,

:12:15. > :12:20.and taking control. Well, I think that's appalling. If you've got no

:12:20. > :12:24.independents, it's county councillors against tenants. I feel

:12:24. > :12:27.as if things are being bulldozed through. You get to know nothing

:12:27. > :12:32.until it's cut and dried. So what's been going on? Why has the council

:12:32. > :12:42.stepped in? It's all a bit of a puzzle. With missing pieces. And

:12:42. > :12:43.

:12:43. > :12:45.unanswered questions. A lot of people are being left in the dark.

:12:45. > :12:48.Including the sacked independent board members, who are, it's fair

:12:48. > :12:51.to say, stunned at what's happened. Because, up until the middle of

:12:51. > :12:54.last year, they thought the council was as happy as the tenants.

:12:54. > :12:58.Despite being warned by the council about speaking to Inside Out, two

:12:58. > :13:01.independent board members wanted to have their say. There was nothing

:13:01. > :13:09.brought to our attention. From the beginning for about two years we

:13:09. > :13:13.seemed to be running quite smoothly. There was an initial chilling. It

:13:13. > :13:20.developed into much more significant mud-throwing. And an

:13:20. > :13:23.escalation of alleged concerns. council declined to appear on

:13:23. > :13:27.Inside Out and tell us why it had taken control of Homes For

:13:27. > :13:34.Northumberland. But in a statement it said it had become increasingly

:13:34. > :13:36.concerned about the company's performance and management. And

:13:36. > :13:43.despite raising these issues, appropriate action hadn't been

:13:43. > :13:47.Homes for Northumberland is an ALMO. An Arms Length Management

:13:47. > :13:53.Organisation. It's supposed to manage and maintain the houses with

:13:53. > :13:56.the support of the tenants. The council has the right to step in

:13:56. > :14:01.and take control if it thinks things are going wrong. I've been

:14:02. > :14:07.told what it's done is virtually unprecedented in this industry. So

:14:07. > :14:10.whatever was wrong, it had to be big. Big enough to abandon arms

:14:10. > :14:18.length and grip the company in a bear hug. We've managed to see

:14:18. > :14:21.confidential council briefings listing all the alleged problems.

:14:21. > :14:25.One of the most serious was a backlog in performing gas safety

:14:26. > :14:29.inspections and issuing certificates. If they're not done,

:14:29. > :14:32.the owner of the houses, the council, could be fined. Apparently,

:14:32. > :14:42.more than 100 inspections had been mislaid by HfN. And around 200 were

:14:42. > :14:50.overdue. We clearly accept mistakes were made. We had assurances that

:14:50. > :14:53.it was not the case and gas servicing was up to date. It turns

:14:53. > :14:58.out mistakes were made and some properties were missed. Immediate

:14:58. > :15:04.action was taken to put that right. So they openly admit they got that

:15:04. > :15:09.wrong. They say they were addressing the problem. But what

:15:09. > :15:15.about the other serious charges? Do they stack up? We understand there

:15:15. > :15:17.are allegations of bullying within Homes For Northumberland. But when

:15:17. > :15:20.the directors asked the council for more evidence, they said they

:15:20. > :15:24.didn't have any and couldn't provide any. We did what we could

:15:24. > :15:34.at the time. We checked if anyone had made a complaint of bullying

:15:34. > :15:38.

:15:38. > :15:41.with HR. We checked our policies. Grievance procedure and so on.

:15:41. > :15:44.Beyond that, there was nothing we could do because there was nothing

:15:44. > :15:49.to investigate. The council said it couldn't discuss detailed

:15:49. > :15:55.management issues like this. But the secret council papers gave us

:15:55. > :15:59.the inside story. They say some of the bullying evidence is anecdotal

:15:59. > :16:09.and subjective. A former grievance had been raised by one middle

:16:09. > :16:09.

:16:09. > :16:12.manager. The council had only been told of serious incidents but by so

:16:12. > :16:14.many resources and so frequently, we cannot simply ignore them. And

:16:15. > :16:19.it's a similar situation with allegations of accounting problems.

:16:19. > :16:29.The secret council papers say financial control was lax. I don't

:16:29. > :16:29.

:16:29. > :16:35.think that's justified at all. The reality is that we were audited

:16:35. > :16:38.annually by KPMG. A fairly major accountancy firm. There were no

:16:39. > :16:44.significant problems identified. None of the inspection reports or

:16:44. > :16:51.audit reports suggested any major financial issues. A pattern emerges.

:16:51. > :16:55.The council says there's a major problem. The former directors say

:16:55. > :16:59.it's a smaller problem and being addressed or not a problem at all.

:16:59. > :17:07.Normally the sides would work out a strategy to resolve the problems.

:17:07. > :17:09.Instead the whole relationship has broken down. The council has lost

:17:09. > :17:12.confidence in Homes for Northumberland without anyone

:17:12. > :17:21.understanding why. It's all a bit of a mystery really. But some

:17:21. > :17:24.believe there's no mystery at all. They think Northumberland, like

:17:24. > :17:31.many councils, wants to take over the ALMO and generate some cash.

:17:31. > :17:34.I'm very worried about it. Because I really feel as if this is the

:17:34. > :17:42.start of a way for the county council to sell the houses on to

:17:42. > :17:48.housing associations. A report last year said Northumberland could save

:17:48. > :17:55.�400,000 a year by taking HfN in- house. The council announced it was

:17:55. > :17:58.considering this. Then the government said tenants had to be

:17:58. > :18:01.properly consulted before a council could dissolve an ALMO. In December,

:18:01. > :18:09.the council sacked the independent directors, who now think they know

:18:09. > :18:13.what's going on. The council wanted to regain control of the housing. I

:18:13. > :18:19.suspect that was the starting point and what's driven everything since.

:18:19. > :18:23.And the tenants also smell a hidden agenda. They just seem to be doing

:18:23. > :18:26.things their way and telling us afterwards. There's not one

:18:26. > :18:33.councillor come forward to side with the residents. Just suspicious.

:18:33. > :18:40.Why not be open and honest and tell people what's going on? But the

:18:40. > :18:43.council says there's no hidden agenda. It had written to every

:18:43. > :18:46.tenant to explain its concerns and what it was doing. Future changes

:18:46. > :18:54.were set aside, for the time being while it strengthened homes for

:18:54. > :18:58.northumberland, and developed an improvement plan. The council also

:18:58. > :19:04.set up a county-wide panel to give tenants a stronger voice about

:19:04. > :19:07.issues which affect them but what will be the situation in a few

:19:07. > :19:10.years time? Who will own the homes of 8,500 families in

:19:10. > :19:19.Northumberland? Who will be setting the rents? Questions that lie at

:19:19. > :19:25.If I said to you, Lake District, you would probably think of

:19:25. > :19:29.spectacular views and stunning walks. But this spring, visitors

:19:29. > :19:32.may be hoping to catch a glimpse of something straight out of The X-

:19:32. > :19:37.Files. We sent Jacey Normand to investigate our very own mystery of

:19:37. > :19:39.the deep. Some people will have you believe

:19:39. > :19:42.that below the waters of Lake Windermere, something is lurking.

:19:42. > :19:48.Sightings of a creature not dissimilar to the Loch Ness Monster

:19:48. > :19:51.have caused a stir in the normally quiet waters of the Lake District.

:19:51. > :20:01.Tom Noblett, a local hotel owner and world record holder for fresh

:20:01. > :20:06.

:20:06. > :20:13.water swimming, believes he isn't We got to an area here. You always

:20:13. > :20:23.get a bad feeling across that area,. It as a mysterious environment

:20:23. > :20:25.

:20:25. > :20:33.I felt something swim past me, which caused me to stop within a

:20:33. > :20:39.split second. I heard something and they turned to my friend Andrew and

:20:39. > :20:44.asked him, what was that? It felt like a mysterious submarine or

:20:44. > :20:49.something had gone past me underneath. We didn't know. We

:20:49. > :20:51.didn't know nothing about no monsters, or anything. This wasn't

:20:52. > :20:55.the first strange encounter at Windermere. Linden Adams was on top

:20:55. > :21:01.of Gummers Howe overlooking the lake when something caught his eye.

:21:01. > :21:07.Fortunately for us, he's a professional photographer. Yes,

:21:07. > :21:14.this is pretty much the view. are the pictures you took. What do

:21:15. > :21:19.you think it is? I don't know. I took eight photographs in total. It

:21:19. > :21:24.lasted for 10 minutes, the fighting. There is a dark object across the

:21:24. > :21:30.top of the water. On a blow up, this is what you can actually see.

:21:30. > :21:35.This dark period has been measured, four metres in length. The piece

:21:35. > :21:39.sticking up, that has been estimated at one metre in height.

:21:39. > :21:45.We owed it and it's something which should not be in the lake. Did you

:21:45. > :21:49.go home and tell everyone? quite the opposite, really. It is

:21:49. > :21:54.scary, looking at the images, thinking, am I going to release

:21:54. > :21:59.this to the general public? It was the last thing on my mind. What did

:21:59. > :22:02.you think they would think? Crazy, at the end of the day. You see

:22:02. > :22:06.something like that in the lake and start questioning exactly what it

:22:06. > :22:12.could possibly be, and start checking off a list in your mind

:22:12. > :22:19.what it could be forced it's not uncommon for Diez to cross the lake.

:22:19. > :22:22.Linden and Tom's stories are very convincing. I want to know what

:22:22. > :22:26.could be in the lake. So I got onboard with to Dr Ian Winfield and

:22:26. > :22:32.his team for a scientific study. This part is monitoring the fish

:22:32. > :22:38.population. We have been doing this for many, many years. It's fair to

:22:38. > :22:43.say, if there was anything out here, you would have seen it by now?

:22:43. > :22:47.think so. We have been doing this during the daytime, since 1990. And

:22:47. > :22:49.at night time as well. And the North and the South basins are

:22:49. > :22:55.covered. If there was anything large, I think we would have come

:22:55. > :23:02.across it. A number of people think they have experienced something.

:23:02. > :23:07.What do you think it is? I don't know what it is. If it is a fish,

:23:07. > :23:15.it could only be a length of a metre. That would be large pike or

:23:15. > :23:25.a salmon, the largest fish we know? It's a question of judging at the

:23:25. > :23:26.

:23:26. > :23:30.reports. -- the ripples. Judging absolutely is very difficult.

:23:30. > :23:37.do you think it is? I think it's the size of something being

:23:37. > :23:43.misjudged. There are lots of otters in the area as well. A couple of

:23:43. > :23:47.them swimming around on a calm day can look very big. Windermere does

:23:47. > :23:52.not give up its secrets easily and it only when you come out here, you

:23:52. > :23:59.can appreciate the tricks with light and shade. So, his Bownessie

:23:59. > :24:09.lurking down their or is it a case of mistaken identity? The person

:24:09. > :24:09.

:24:09. > :24:14.who would know his Lisa Clarke, an expert in Marine Zoology. There's

:24:14. > :24:20.lots of large fish in our lakes. The Atlantic Salmon can grow up to

:24:20. > :24:26.one meeting in size. They are very ferocious species. Again, they can

:24:26. > :24:32.grow up to one metre. Pike, they can grow up to considerable size is

:24:32. > :24:37.in terms of freshwater fish. Up to one metre. It's quite a reclusive

:24:37. > :24:44.fish and tends to be bottom dwelling. Further afield, it could

:24:44. > :24:48.be coastal waters, you have the basking shark. That is a total

:24:49. > :24:55.marine species which can grow to considerable sizes, up to 26 ft and

:24:55. > :24:59.more. You have looked at these photographs. Tell me what you think.

:24:59. > :25:04.In my opinion, it's an animal of some description. It could be a

:25:04. > :25:10.sturgeon. From witness accounts, I have looked bad, and descriptions,

:25:10. > :25:16.this could be one of the more likely fish it could be. These can

:25:16. > :25:21.grow to considerable sizes. In excess of 16 feet in length. And

:25:21. > :25:27.even up to 20 feet. The photographs are quite significant to you,

:25:27. > :25:31.aren't they? They are the best evidence we have at the moment of

:25:31. > :25:35.the sightings. They have been other photographs, but these are quite

:25:35. > :25:40.clear. It's an animal moving through the water against the

:25:40. > :25:45.current of the lake and appears to be quite considerable size. It

:25:45. > :25:49.needs more investigation and a long term investigation. That will give

:25:49. > :25:57.it the best chance of trying to discover what this animal is. I

:25:57. > :26:03.propose to do a much more in-depth study with a team of professionals.

:26:03. > :26:12.A multi-disciplinary team. We ought to do that over the summer. Ridley

:26:12. > :26:15.so convinced that London's photographs are genuine, I went to

:26:15. > :26:18.see Daetech. They are specialists in forensic visual computing. Their

:26:18. > :26:24.analysis of video footage is used by police forces all over the world.

:26:24. > :26:29.Could any of these pictures be anything lurking in the water?

:26:29. > :26:36.this one here. You can see quite clearly, they are quite long in

:26:37. > :26:43.length. You can see it looks like ahead. Possibly. We have tried

:26:43. > :26:48.elements of analysis, trying to enhance, reduce the size. Increase

:26:48. > :26:56.the contrast on this political -- particular selection. And what does

:26:56. > :27:00.it look like to you after doing that? Well, it certainly an object.

:27:01. > :27:06.Not quite sure whether it's an object or an animal. But there

:27:06. > :27:10.certainly something in the water. Like most great mysteries, we found

:27:10. > :27:20.something but the results are inconclusive, which is not bad news

:27:20. > :27:25.for everybody. We asked Cumbria Tourism what they thought it was.

:27:25. > :27:29.giant pike or a throwback to the Ice Age? It's intriguing. Is it in

:27:29. > :27:33.your interest to keep it a mystery? They had done that well in Scotland

:27:33. > :27:41.and if we can learn from them, and key but visitors coming back, we

:27:41. > :27:47.will be doing well out of it. have you heard? That it exists.

:27:47. > :27:55.sighting so far. Yes, we would love to. I came looking forward but we

:27:55. > :28:01.have not found it yet. I think it's true. So you don't really want to

:28:01. > :28:11.find out in case it's a big pike? Well, whatever it is, the mystery

:28:11. > :28:11.

:28:11. > :28:21.That's it for tonight. A huge response on e-mailed to last week's

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