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:00:03. > :00:07.In the next half an hour, branded as drug dealers, the copper and his

:00:07. > :00:11.wife who are left high and dry by a police investigation.

:00:11. > :00:15.I would like people to know how far the police will take something. You

:00:15. > :00:19.are not innocent until proven guilty. You are guilty until you

:00:19. > :00:23.can prove your innocence. The cost of leaving school - you are invited

:00:23. > :00:26.to a North East Prom. It is a teenage night out but with an adult

:00:26. > :00:30.price tag. I don't think I spent that much on

:00:30. > :00:34.my wedding dress! Here dream over mine, really.

:00:34. > :00:38.And in County Durham, they love to work, but they fear they are being

:00:38. > :00:43.consigned to the scrapheap. Once people are out of these

:00:43. > :00:47.factories and a year has gone by, nobody is going to care.

:00:47. > :00:51.Storys from the heart of the North East and Cumbria. This is --

:00:51. > :01:01.stories from the heart of the North East and Cumbria. This is Inside

:01:01. > :01:08.

:01:08. > :01:12.Imagine the top dog in a drugs gang is in fact a serving police officer.

:01:12. > :01:16.Well, Northumbria Police certainly did. When their massive and costly

:01:16. > :01:20.anti-corruption investigation came to court, the Wearside policeman

:01:20. > :01:25.was cleared. By then his life and that of his family had been turned

:01:25. > :01:32.upside-down. So is this a case where everyone's reputation is

:01:32. > :01:38.called into question? The identity of this man, Tommo to

:01:38. > :01:43.his friends, used to be a closely- guarded secret. Why was this

:01:43. > :01:47.highly-commended undercover cop thrust into the limelight?

:01:47. > :01:51.started using cocaine. It was a huge mistake. I deserve to have

:01:51. > :01:54.been arrested. What I didn't deserve was to be portrayed as the

:01:54. > :01:59.head of an organised crime group flooding the North East with

:01:59. > :02:03.cocaine. Paul Thompson tells me his side of the story and we ask why

:02:03. > :02:08.Northumbria Police thought one of their own was the King pin of a

:02:08. > :02:11.major drugs gang. Paul Thompson joined the police in 1991. He was

:02:11. > :02:19.promoted to Detective Sergeant and received several commendations for

:02:19. > :02:26.his work in the murky world of the undercover cop. I always felt you

:02:26. > :02:34.are only ever scratching the surface as a conventional police

:02:34. > :02:38.officer. Although it is the stuff of films, much of the job was far

:02:38. > :02:46.from glamorous. I had a tracksuit in my shed that I used to soak in a

:02:46. > :02:50.bucket of urine. I would wear that. In 1997, Paul's undercover work was

:02:50. > :02:56.behind a massive drugs bust on a Newcastle nightclub. I was co-

:02:56. > :03:04.ordinating the strike from inside the premises. I remember two

:03:04. > :03:10.furniture vans pulling up outside of Legends. 160 PSUs were

:03:10. > :03:14.disappearing in double file down the stairs. The success of the

:03:14. > :03:18.operation came at a cost. It was here Paul first took cocaine

:03:18. > :03:22.working in the role of an undercover drugs buyer. We went to

:03:22. > :03:27.the cubicle. He put up two lines of cocaine, one for him and one for me.

:03:27. > :03:33.He did his line. Then he watched carefully to ensure I did mine and

:03:33. > :03:39.at this stage, I felt as though I was under scrutiny and when we came

:03:39. > :03:44.out of the premises, there was no sign... You reported the fact...?

:03:44. > :03:48.Of course you do. It is not something that is encouraged or

:03:49. > :03:53.expected. If you feel that it's going to result in your assault,

:03:53. > :03:58.then, yeah. Ten years later, work pressures and the sudden death of

:03:58. > :04:03.his mother led to depression. a lot of worries on my mind. I had

:04:03. > :04:08.been drinking more than I should have been doing. I went and sought

:04:08. > :04:12.cocaine. Paul was now crossing a line. This time, the cocaine was

:04:12. > :04:17.for personal use. To make matters worse, he went to his half-brother

:04:17. > :04:22.to buy the drug for him. I thought he may know somebody and he did. He

:04:22. > :04:27.got me some cocaine and I started using it from there. I'm arresting

:04:27. > :04:33.somebody at work for taking cocaine and I'm buying my own on the way

:04:33. > :04:37.home. The two didn't cross over. didn't occur to you that you were

:04:37. > :04:44.crossing that line? I was looking for something to improve my own

:04:44. > :04:48.personal situation. You were doing it to heal...? I was self-

:04:48. > :04:53.medicating. That wasn't the view of Northumbria Police. They mounted a

:04:53. > :04:56.major surveillance operation on Paul's half-brother Bryan. Although

:04:56. > :05:00.Paul maintains he had no idea where his brother was getting the drugs

:05:00. > :05:04.from, the police had made a connection between Bryan and two

:05:04. > :05:09.drug dealers, David and Stephen Wood. In February last year, they

:05:09. > :05:17.and Bryan Thompson were charged in connection with a seizure of four

:05:17. > :05:21.kilos of cocaine and �160,000 in cash. Paul Thompson was arrested at

:05:21. > :05:26.work in Sunderland and brought to North Shields police station. Later,

:05:26. > :05:30.he was charged with conspiracy to supply cocaine and to commit

:05:30. > :05:35.misconduct in a public office. think every now and again they need

:05:35. > :05:39.to be seen to be taking a big scalp. I think they decided I was going to

:05:39. > :05:44.be that scalp and they had it wrong. They had it completely wrong.

:05:44. > :05:50.was remanded to Durham Jail. As I came in, the news broadcast came on

:05:51. > :05:55.announcing my full name. And the fact I had been remanded in custody.

:05:55. > :06:00.You were being broadcast? It was on the radio for all to hear. That is

:06:00. > :06:04.the worst situation, potentially, a police officer inside? To say I was

:06:04. > :06:07.nervous was an understatement. Paul was arrested, his wife was

:06:08. > :06:14.completely in the dark. Wondering why he wasn't answering his phone

:06:14. > :06:21.as she travelled home from work. assumed that he had been caught up

:06:21. > :06:26.at work, or that he had time to go for a pint with friends. Her world

:06:26. > :06:29.was about to change. There was a loud knock at the door. There were

:06:29. > :06:33.four police officers on the doorstep. They said, "We are

:06:33. > :06:38.arresting you on suspicion of conspiracy to supply a Class A drug,

:06:38. > :06:42.conspiracy to commit misconduct in a public office and money-

:06:42. > :06:47.laundering offences." As her ordeal unfolded, she kept a diary of

:06:47. > :06:50.events. I almost faint as one of the officers tell me Paul was

:06:50. > :06:55.arrested early in the day. One of the officers was gracious enough to

:06:55. > :06:59.hold me as I nearly fall to the floor. She was taken to the new

:06:59. > :07:03.police station at North Shields. Did you think your life was falling

:07:03. > :07:08.apart? Yes, I felt as if I was in free fall. The pressure continued

:07:08. > :07:11.after she was bailed and driven home by detectives. They started

:07:11. > :07:15.talking about Paul and said to me he was in serious trouble. He is

:07:15. > :07:20.going to prison for a very long time and said, "Tommo can't talk

:07:20. > :07:27.his way out of this one." At this point, I'm wondering if I know I

:07:27. > :07:33.have known the person I am married. When I'm being told I'm virtually

:07:33. > :07:37.married to Pablo Escobar, I'm worried. Paul then came clean to

:07:37. > :07:41.Suzie about his cocaine problem. Suzie was, "Please tell me, what

:07:41. > :07:47.are the facts here. Last week you were a policeman, now you have come

:07:47. > :07:53.out of jail." She wasn't aware of my drug use. I genuinely feared

:07:53. > :07:56.that this could have had a devastating impact on my marriage.

:07:56. > :07:59.The Thompsons had to knock down the police theory they were at the

:07:59. > :08:04.centre of a major drugs gang. It involved poring through the

:08:04. > :08:08.mountain of documents that formed the prosecution's case against them.

:08:08. > :08:13.There were so many inaccuracies within it. You could tell what they

:08:13. > :08:18.had put in here was designed to shock. For example? They picked out

:08:18. > :08:25.parts of text messages, the one I'm sure that everybody read about in

:08:25. > :08:30.the press, I love it, speak tomorrow, we on the champers and a

:08:30. > :08:36.wee snifter, Merry Chrimbo to all. That was given to the police's drug

:08:36. > :08:44.expert. The text message wasn't. He was asked to translate that and he

:08:44. > :08:49.said it was cocaine. They made reference to a time when I attended

:08:49. > :08:54.Jewson's... Paul was being tailed and his conversation recorded.

:08:54. > :09:00.said, "Do you want it delivered before the weekend?" To which I

:09:00. > :09:05.respected, yt yes, because it is getting cut -- "Yes, because it is

:09:05. > :09:11.getting cut." What were you doing? I was buying timber to repair a

:09:12. > :09:21.bridge on a fence cottage. There was a set of scales covered in the

:09:21. > :09:31.kitchen. I was able to go to statement, "No drug detected - that

:09:31. > :09:32.

:09:32. > :09:35.was because it was flour." Was this evidence? If that their job, then

:09:35. > :09:39.it was ridiculous. After a year waiting for trial, and several

:09:39. > :09:46.weeks in the dock, the jury was asked to reach a verdict on the

:09:46. > :09:51.Thompsons. I hear Paul's name being read out and I heard "not guilty".

:09:51. > :09:55.I can't believe it. Sure enough, he is with me. We are all hugging and

:09:55. > :10:00.we have done it! We beat them. were both cleared of supplying

:10:00. > :10:05.cocaine. Paul was fined �1,000 for possession of the drug for personal

:10:05. > :10:09.use. The three others were all given long jail sentences. We asked

:10:09. > :10:13.Northumbria Police for an interview about the Thompsons' case. They

:10:13. > :10:17.declined. In a statement, they said the public expect the highest

:10:17. > :10:21.standards of the police and when they fall short, they take the

:10:21. > :10:28.required action. As far as the drugs investigation is concerned,

:10:28. > :10:32.they said Paul Thompson was a serving officer who was convicted

:10:32. > :10:37.of possessing a Class A drug. Northumbria Police confirmed they

:10:37. > :10:40.had a complaint from Mrs Thompson which had been investigated but was

:10:40. > :10:45.not upheld. The Thompsons are now taking their

:10:45. > :10:55.case to the Independent Police Complaints Commission. I'm glad

:10:55. > :10:56.

:10:56. > :11:02.that the truth came out, the offences I admitted were the

:11:02. > :11:09.offences of which I was convicted. Suzie is unemployed after the

:11:09. > :11:14.adverse publicity cost her her job. My reputation has been damaged,

:11:14. > :11:17.hopefully not beyond repair. I would like people to know how far

:11:17. > :11:22.the police will take something. You are not innocent until proven

:11:22. > :11:30.guilty, you are guilty until you can prove your innocence. It is not

:11:30. > :11:34.fair. Still to come: Thousands of people

:11:34. > :11:38.marched through London at the weekend. With so many voices, we

:11:38. > :11:45.focus on a unique group of northerners, their factories have

:11:45. > :11:49.been closed, but work was never just a job for them.

:11:49. > :11:53.The North East has a bit of a reputation when it comes to having

:11:53. > :11:57.a party. But they are starting young. Even before they leave

:11:57. > :12:03.school. Teenage girls will already be preparing for their big dress,

:12:03. > :12:13.the big hair for the High School Prom. But is the price tag leaving

:12:13. > :12:13.

:12:13. > :12:23.the dults with a -- the adults with a hefty hangover?

:12:23. > :12:29.Every hair has to be in place. the most important night of her

:12:29. > :12:33.teenage life. Tonight is 16-year- old Lisa's High School Prom. I have

:12:33. > :12:37.always looked up to princesses, and stuff like that. I have always

:12:37. > :12:43.wanted to be like a little Princess. I would rather go with no shoes on

:12:43. > :12:49.as long as my hair's done! Lisa's had a dry-run to make sure the hair

:12:49. > :12:53.is exactly right. I had to get, like, a trial done at a few places.

:12:53. > :12:59.It was a good job I did. If I went to the other place, it would have

:12:59. > :13:04.went wrong on the day. I would have been annoyed. I would probably have

:13:04. > :13:09.been crying! Imported from America, Proms are now huge business in the

:13:09. > :13:14.UK. British families pay an estimated �80 million a year to the

:13:14. > :13:22.Prom economy. Lisa's making her own significant contribution to that

:13:22. > :13:32.sum. Extensions, �200, trials �100, styling �40. Total cost of Princess

:13:32. > :13:32.

:13:32. > :13:41.hair - �340. Lisa bought her Princess Prom dress in Paris - not

:13:41. > :13:47.the fairytale French capital, a shop in the MetroCentre. Supplying

:13:47. > :13:55.Prom frocks is three-quarters of the shop's business and growing.

:13:55. > :14:01.How do you feel? I love it. They can spend �600, �700 on a dress, if

:14:01. > :14:06.they really want to look special. One of the designer dresses. Then

:14:06. > :14:12.the girls that tend to go into that sort of dress tend to go into

:14:12. > :14:15.designer shoes and that could be up to �600 for the shoes. We have had

:14:15. > :14:19.fathers come in with their daughters, they have been a daddy's

:14:19. > :14:28.girl and price has not been a problem. The biggest spenders are

:14:28. > :14:32.the ones who can least afford it. think they always find a form of

:14:32. > :14:39.paying for it. It can be that the whole family have grouped together

:14:39. > :14:44.to buy this dress. Some people say that they have taken two jobs on.

:14:44. > :14:53.I'm a single mam. I work 16 hours, which is part-time. Kind of a

:14:53. > :15:03.struggle but you get there in the end. I had to beg me mam. Once she

:15:03. > :15:04.

:15:04. > :15:09.told us the price, "What?" I couldn't breathe. I said, "Mam,

:15:09. > :15:17.please." I was on my knees. I don't think I spent that much on my

:15:17. > :15:27.wedding dress! Is that tight enough? No. Do it as tight as you

:15:27. > :15:36.

:15:36. > :15:42.You cannot breathe in it! Lisa's dress was �400. Accessories, shoes,

:15:42. > :15:47.bag, underwear, tiara, jewellery, �176. She will probably never wear

:15:47. > :15:51.any of it again. We haven't been adding it up. It is not until you

:15:51. > :15:57.sit down and write it all down on paper and you come up with such a

:15:57. > :16:03.whopper of a price and you think, "My God, have I spent that much

:16:03. > :16:10.already?" Fake tan, nail, eyelashes, make-up �139, ticket �25, grand

:16:10. > :16:15.total - �1,080. It does seem a lot of money for one day. I wouldn't

:16:15. > :16:23.usually spend that, say if I was going on a night out, I would not

:16:23. > :16:31.spend nearly a grand. Because it's never going to happen again, it is

:16:31. > :16:37.important. It is a bit expensive. But it doesn't have to be that ex-

:16:37. > :16:42.pentive. I would not spend that much on my dress. I don't think --

:16:42. > :16:45.Be that expensive. I would not spend that much on my dress.

:16:45. > :16:52.Annabel's mum is a student with three children. She's made

:16:52. > :16:57.sacrifices to find the �215 for Annabel's dress. Money is an issue.

:16:57. > :17:03.She leaves school this year. I leave uni this year. It was one or

:17:03. > :17:13.the other. It was her Prom or my graduation. I couldn't afford both.

:17:13. > :17:15.

:17:15. > :17:25.Her dream over mine, really. Oh, Annabel! Oh my God! Ten minutes to

:17:25. > :17:26.

:17:26. > :17:30.put me eyelashes on. She is so grown-up! People with less money

:17:30. > :17:37.tends to go to town more because they want to be seen by the world,

:17:37. > :17:45.by their schools, by the school, by the other girls, the other mothers

:17:45. > :17:52.that they can provide. While Lisa and Annabel leave for their Prom in

:17:52. > :18:02.Newcastle, students in Seaham arrive at one of the area's swanky

:18:02. > :18:15.

:18:15. > :18:21.hotels. Not easy in a stretched Welcome to Seaham, the class of

:18:22. > :18:31.2012! This is your last official night of being Seaham students. We

:18:32. > :18:38.

:18:39. > :18:45.will have a fantastic night. Let's We have the Prom because that is

:18:45. > :18:48.what the young people of the school want. They have worked tremendously

:18:48. > :18:53.hard throughout the year and they need to have something to aim for

:18:53. > :18:59.at the end of the process. Even though the school pays for the

:18:59. > :19:02.party, teachers know it is still a stretch for many families. It is

:19:02. > :19:06.very difficult sometimes because obviously not everyone's got the

:19:06. > :19:13.same amount of money. Trying to explain that, you don't have to

:19:13. > :19:17.have a fake tan, you look just as good as you are. It is a difficult

:19:17. > :19:21.decision. They want to look like that, but you also know they can't

:19:21. > :19:24.afford to. You have to make a conscious decision sometimes to say,

:19:24. > :19:29.it is not all about the money, it is about enjoying yourself at the

:19:29. > :19:39.end of the day, saying goodbye to your friends, that is more

:19:39. > :19:45.important than a tan. The morning after, Lisa and Annabel reflect on

:19:45. > :19:50.their Prom dream. It wasn't an interesting night. I wish I had

:19:51. > :19:56.never spent �1,000. I wish I went to, like, River Island and bought a

:19:56. > :20:02.dress and heels. It was like a normal disco. I wanted to go home

:20:02. > :20:08.at one point! I want to get rid of the dress. It wasn't as good as the

:20:08. > :20:14.way I wanted to keep the dress. I want it out of me room. I still do

:20:14. > :20:23.love my dress even though it was pointless. I can't imagine myself

:20:23. > :20:28.wearing it again. It will be going on eBay at some point.

:20:28. > :20:32.Losing your job is bad enough. But hundreds of disabled workers fear

:20:32. > :20:37.the closure of their specialist factories may mean they will never

:20:37. > :20:39.work again. Inside Out has been following people at Remploy

:20:39. > :20:43.factories across the North of England. They were among thousands

:20:43. > :20:48.of people protesting at the closures at a demonstration in

:20:48. > :20:55.London at the weekend. I have no idea what I will do when

:20:55. > :21:03.I leave here. It makes me feel very upset and disappointed. I feel we

:21:04. > :21:09.are all being used as scapegoats. have never been on benefits. It is

:21:09. > :21:16.quite daunting to think at my age, 50, that I'm actually going to be

:21:16. > :21:19.unemployed. Set up to aid disabled men, the Remploy factories teach

:21:19. > :21:24.new jobs, men who otherwise would be forced to remain idle are now

:21:24. > :21:27.able to work. The first factory was opened in 1945 to provide

:21:27. > :21:32.employment for injured servicemen after the war. Remploy has expanded

:21:32. > :21:36.over the years and at the start of 2012 the company employed more than

:21:36. > :21:40.2,000 disabled people. They make a variety of products at the 54

:21:40. > :21:45.factories, ranging from protective clothing for the emergency services,

:21:45. > :21:48.to car components. But Government says the factories aren't cost-

:21:48. > :21:54.effective. They made a combined loss of �68 million last year and

:21:54. > :21:58.in March, they announced plans to close half of them. It's July and

:21:58. > :22:02.after months of uncertainty, the workers at Wigan Remploy have

:22:02. > :22:07.received confirmation that their factory is one of those to shut.

:22:07. > :22:13.Stephen Rigby is a team leader and he's worked for Remploy for 30

:22:13. > :22:17.years. The reaction was of shock, we all knew that a lot of Remploys

:22:17. > :22:21.were possibly closing, but we were still in shock when the news came.

:22:21. > :22:28.There was quite a few that got really upset, obviously. A lot of

:22:28. > :22:34.people have worked there for many years. Some 30 years, 20 years. And

:22:34. > :22:38.were a very tight-knit community at Remploy. In County Durham, Chris

:22:38. > :22:41.and Claire Menzies have found out their factory is also on the list

:22:42. > :22:48.of those to close. Chris, who is deaf and partially-sighted, is one

:22:48. > :22:52.of 41 people being made redundant. TRANSLATION: My boss gave me a

:22:52. > :22:56.paper to read, it was about the redundancy and the money and the

:22:56. > :23:00.reasons why we were having to be made redundant. That was all.

:23:00. > :23:05.a double blow for Claire and Chris. They met while working at Remploy

:23:05. > :23:13.and this year celebrated their 25th wedding anniversary. Claire was

:23:13. > :23:23.forced to stop week because of ill- health and hasn't worked since 2007.

:23:23. > :23:24.

:23:24. > :23:30.I couldn't believe that after all the hard work we as a community had

:23:30. > :23:36.made Remploy what it had become. One of the biggest factories to

:23:36. > :23:40.close is at Leeds. 60 workers will lose their jobs when it shuts in

:23:40. > :23:46.three weeks. Office equipment has been removed in preparation for the

:23:46. > :23:49.closure. David Charles is one of those being made redundant. His

:23:49. > :23:53.father was Leeds United football legend John Charles. David suffered

:23:53. > :23:58.a stroke ten years ago and feared he would never work again.

:23:58. > :24:02.thought to myself, I've got to do something to get myself motivated

:24:02. > :24:06.again because with the illness and the time I had to recover from the

:24:06. > :24:10.illness, I still have the illness, it will be there for the rest of me

:24:10. > :24:14.life. To think to myself that I couldn't do nothing, I couldn't

:24:14. > :24:19.bear not to do nothing. workforce in Leeds makes security

:24:19. > :24:22.tags for a large retailer, as well as packaging and labelling for a

:24:22. > :24:28.food distributor. They say they are busier than ever and can't

:24:28. > :24:34.understand the decision to close the site. We are inundated with

:24:34. > :24:38.work here. We have got a lot of work that we have had to turn away.

:24:38. > :24:42.It has all been done too fast. Claire and Chris have a meeting

:24:42. > :24:48.with Kenny Stott and he's got bad news for them. The closure of the

:24:48. > :24:54.factory is in just two weeks. people are nearing retirement age.

:24:54. > :24:58.So we have to face the fact we won't be doing anything

:24:58. > :25:04.constructive with our lives, just retiring early. Those people who

:25:04. > :25:08.are younger will have to look for work. And the bottom line is once

:25:08. > :25:18.people are out of these factories and a year has gone by, nobody will

:25:18. > :25:21.

:25:21. > :25:28.care for them. They will wash their hands of it all. It seems last week

:25:28. > :25:35.at Remploy - it's the last week at Remploy. They are watching their

:25:35. > :25:42.son Adam play for the local wheelchair rugby team. I can't tell

:25:42. > :25:48.you how proud I am of him. It's been an emotional week. The factory

:25:48. > :25:53.is gearing up to close down. The machinery is being getting ready

:25:53. > :25:57.for transporting and a lot of the work has disappeared. So we are

:25:57. > :26:04.saying our goodbyes and getting ready for Thursday when we leave

:26:04. > :26:09.the factory. It's the final day at Wigan. After 60 years, the factory

:26:09. > :26:16.is shutting. It is an emotional moment for all the staff. It means

:26:16. > :26:21.a lot. I'm struggling on my own with two kids. It is not fair.

:26:21. > :26:28.have made a lot of friends. The way they have treated us is a disgrace.

:26:28. > :26:37.It is really upsetting. Really emotional. It is just a really sad

:26:37. > :26:42.day. End of an era. I can't explain the emotions that have been going

:26:42. > :26:47.on all morning. We have been trying to keep our chins up, but nothing

:26:47. > :26:52.would ever prepare you for what's happened today. It is like a

:26:52. > :26:57.bereavement in the family. It's a similar scene at Durham where Chris

:26:57. > :27:00.and 40 other workers have just completed their last shift. The

:27:00. > :27:03.Government insists keeping the factories open wasn't a viable

:27:03. > :27:07.option and resources would be better spent helping disabled

:27:07. > :27:12.people find jobs with mainstream employers. At the moment, there are

:27:12. > :27:20.6.9 million disabled people of working age and Remploy factories

:27:20. > :27:24.accounts for 2,200. A fifth of the 320 million budget is going to

:27:25. > :27:31.those. How do we best spend that money to help all of those people?

:27:31. > :27:36.The employment services part of Remploy had found 35,000 people

:27:36. > :27:39.jobs so it is possible, we can help people into mainstream work and a

:27:39. > :27:45.lot of those disability organisations, a lot of disabled

:27:45. > :27:49.people said, "We would like to work in mainstream employment." In Wigan,

:27:49. > :27:54.Stephen's search for work has proved fruitless. Even though I

:27:54. > :28:00.have lots of skills behind me, you can't always take those skills out

:28:00. > :28:06.into the outside world. I have tried to keep optimistic. I always

:28:06. > :28:10.think yeah, something will come along eventually. As each time I

:28:10. > :28:16.get a rejection, that instils in my mind that this is going to get

:28:16. > :28:23.harder and harder, especially with the climate as it is at the moment

:28:23. > :28:26.and there are able-bodied people that are struggling to find work.

:28:27. > :28:36.As well as the programme every Monday night, I have a blog which

:28:37. > :28:37.

:28:37. > :28:41.you can visit any time of day. Go That is it for tonight.