:00:03. > :00:06.Cumbria. This week, Chris Jackson is in Tynemouth for Inside Out. In
:00:06. > :00:14.the next half an hour... He's touring the North, promising he can
:00:14. > :00:20.really talk to the dead. We put this man's claims to the test.
:00:20. > :00:23.November. Why is it significant? was one of our greatest adventurers.
:00:23. > :00:30.Now his sister wants to know just why Joe Tasker couldn't stay away
:00:30. > :00:34.from the mountains. I'm hoping I'll find answers to some of the
:00:34. > :00:36.questions I've been asking myself for years and years. And we follow
:00:36. > :00:42.the Yorkshire facelift that's bringing a whole new sparkle to a
:00:42. > :00:46.much-loved friend. I just think it's fantastic that we can take a
:00:46. > :00:56.step back into the past really. For me, it's ground breaking. Stories
:00:56. > :01:06.
:01:06. > :01:10.from the heart of the North East He claims he has a phone link to
:01:10. > :01:14.the spirits of those who have passed on. He says he has proof we
:01:14. > :01:18.don't die. His name is Stephen Holbrook, and thousands of people
:01:18. > :01:21.across the North believe in him. But is he a genuine medium who
:01:21. > :01:31.hears voices, or is he exploiting the bereaved using traditional
:01:31. > :01:38.
:01:38. > :01:46.entertainers skills? Tonight, we This is a story of spirits,
:01:46. > :01:50.bereavement and tricks. Central Leeds - a member of the Inside Out
:01:50. > :01:57.team, wearing a secret camera - is on their way to film a man who says
:01:57. > :02:01.he's a phone link to the dead. hear the spirit world. They talk to
:02:01. > :02:04.me. It is as natural as breathing. I want to tell you about my hand.
:02:04. > :02:10.This is Stephen Holbrook. And that's his stiff left hand. It's
:02:10. > :02:15.like wood. Sometimes it turns blue. It's a sign that Archie - Stephen's
:02:15. > :02:19.dead spirit guide - is on the psychic phone. The fifth. Wait, do
:02:19. > :02:29.it my way! Stephen says he channels messages just like a phone. But he
:02:29. > :02:31.reverses the charges, and his Activists from the Newcastle and
:02:31. > :02:41.Merseyside Skeptics Societies, fresh from checking out Stephen's
:02:41. > :02:41.
:02:41. > :02:45.performance. They are not impressed. He does not speak to he deceased.
:02:45. > :02:48.He is about as clairvoyant as a teapot. Overall, I would argue that
:02:48. > :02:51.Stephen Holbrook is not psychic. who is right? Stephen Holbrook, who
:02:51. > :02:54.says he can genuinely hear the spirits, and claims his powers
:02:54. > :03:03.prove there is life after death, or the sceptics, who say he is an
:03:03. > :03:06.entertainment performer using magician's tricks? It is important,
:03:06. > :03:13.because if Stephen's phone carries nuisance calls, and Archie and the
:03:13. > :03:15.spirits aren't real, there's a problem - with the law. If a trader
:03:15. > :03:17.gives false information or misleading information to consumers
:03:17. > :03:21.and that causes people to do something they would not otherwise
:03:21. > :03:25.have done, such as buying a ticket or travelling to an event, then
:03:25. > :03:29.there could potentially be a criminal offence. Some mediums say
:03:29. > :03:34.the performance is for entertainment purposes only. Is
:03:34. > :03:37.that sufficient? If he is actually saying, I am an entertainer, I am a
:03:37. > :03:47.magician. I am using cold reading techniques and I cannot actually
:03:47. > :03:52.speak to the spirit world, then But Stephen never says it is just
:03:53. > :03:57.for entertainment. He repeatedly claims it is all real. You have
:03:57. > :04:02.just listened to 50 minutes of people speaking from the next world.
:04:02. > :04:05.So life does continue, doesn't it? Because you've just listened to it.
:04:05. > :04:09.Soon audience members are in tears as he relays messages from the
:04:09. > :04:14.spirits of dead babies, children, mums and dads. You are upset now,
:04:14. > :04:21.aren't you? I know you are. You are crying. You didn't cry with grief
:04:21. > :04:25.and didn't cry with your mum, but you cried with your dad. They cry
:04:25. > :04:28.because they are desperate to make contact with the dead. It is one
:04:28. > :04:30.thing if they are receiving real messages from the spirits but if
:04:30. > :04:34.they are repeatedly paying to be manipulated by psychological tricks,
:04:34. > :04:42.then there is a risk they can get stuck in their grief and suffer
:04:42. > :04:49.real damage. I think this is a type of exploitation of the worst sort.
:04:49. > :04:52.It really is manipulating people at a terrible time of their lives.
:04:52. > :04:55.of the worse consequences for people who are very vulnerable is
:04:55. > :05:05.that they can end up stuck in that early stage of grieving and will
:05:05. > :05:06.
:05:06. > :05:10.never be able to relinquish it or Back in Leeds, a large part of the
:05:10. > :05:18.performance consists of Stephen asking questions. Sometimes he
:05:18. > :05:23.appears to get it right. Is your mother-in-law in the spirit world?
:05:23. > :05:32.Yes. Did she have to go into hospital, sweetheart, before she
:05:32. > :05:38.passed away? Or into a home? often he gets it wrong. Somebody's
:05:38. > :05:44.lost their dad - to do with the brain. This is... I think it's a
:05:44. > :05:48.tumour, or an aneurism. I don't know what. Quickly! Somebody knows
:05:48. > :05:52.what I am talking about. Stephen performs all over the North, doing
:05:52. > :05:58.more than 20 shows a month, nine months a year. His website is full
:05:58. > :06:02.of testimonials from satisfied customers. Thank you so much for
:06:02. > :06:08.the wonderful message you gave to us in Middlesbrough. At Bolton
:06:08. > :06:13.Masonic Hall, I was in shock. He confirmed that my dad knew he was
:06:13. > :06:17.going to die. But he also has his critics. I thought the advert was
:06:17. > :06:20.nonsensical, laughable. And then I got quite cross, knowing the sort
:06:20. > :06:23.of people, vulnerable types, who were attracted to it - not just
:06:23. > :06:33.attracted to it but parting with their hard-earned money - I think
:06:33. > :06:36.
:06:36. > :06:40.first medium Emma Marsh and three of her students had ever seen.
:06:40. > :06:42.kind of questions he would ask would be very, very general. He
:06:42. > :06:46.would say, why is February important to you? I was staggered
:06:46. > :06:50.at that kind of question. Well, February can be important for any
:06:50. > :06:57.number of reasons. People would be supplying him with the information
:06:57. > :07:03.not the other way round. Ellis told Stephen about a dead boyfriend.
:07:03. > :07:06.Stephen told Ellis what his spirit was saying. He spoke about the
:07:06. > :07:10.funeral. He said, the funeral rocked and thank you for the
:07:10. > :07:16.flowers. He also spoke about how my boyfriend loved me and that he
:07:16. > :07:20.cared for me. But Ellis's dead boyfriend never existed.
:07:20. > :07:26.boyfriend isn't dead and none of my boyfriends in the past have died.
:07:26. > :07:36.Meanwhile, in Leeds, Stephen is seeing dogs. Did you ever have a
:07:36. > :07:38.
:07:38. > :07:40.cross Jack Russell terrier? It was you. But when he gets a no, he
:07:40. > :07:45.changes tack and quickly picks someone else. Because your mum
:07:45. > :07:49.pushed in, the dog's come back. we get three experts - all psychic
:07:49. > :07:59.entertainers or magicians - to analyse Stephen's performance. They
:07:59. > :08:01.
:08:01. > :08:07.all say he is using traditional magicians' techniques. Like a
:08:07. > :08:10.circle in a spiral... By throwing out a random date, he is going to
:08:10. > :08:13.get a strong chance of a hit with at least one person in the room.
:08:13. > :08:16.October, thank you. Why is October significant? August. 5th November.
:08:16. > :08:19.Why is it significant? Random pieces of information, which people
:08:19. > :08:22.are going to latch on to, which they are going to embellish.
:08:22. > :08:28.Somebody's brother take their own life? Somebody lose their brother?
:08:28. > :08:32.Yes or no? It is taking a little bit of information and scattering
:08:32. > :08:35.it around to a big audience, a big group of people and finding that
:08:35. > :08:37.one person who seems to give something off. They say Stephen's
:08:37. > :08:43.practising cold reading, an entertainer's way of finding out
:08:43. > :08:46.personal details through clever questioning. You look at someone
:08:46. > :08:53.and you read their micro- experssions, their inflections. You
:08:53. > :08:58.work out statistically what is most likely. Like inheriting jewellery.
:08:58. > :09:02.Two rings, sweetheart. Two rings. Have you got them both? Yes?
:09:02. > :09:05.wants them back. The second is a strategic approach, where you just
:09:05. > :09:12.say things and they apply to everyone. You know the house you
:09:12. > :09:15.live in? Yes. Beautiful. He goes straight away from just answer me
:09:16. > :09:18.yes or no and he goes all the way through the process, asking open
:09:18. > :09:21.ended questions, where they actually feed him. At the end of
:09:21. > :09:25.this engagement with this guy, the audience will walk away believing
:09:25. > :09:31.he asked no other questions and people only answered yes or no.
:09:31. > :09:40.Kennedy shows how easily it's done. He asks people to write down the
:09:40. > :09:44.name of somebody they haven't seen for a long time. If you could read
:09:44. > :09:50.my mind... Kennedy will tell them the name, using classic magician's
:09:50. > :09:55.tricks. But he also guesses their personal details using cold reading.
:09:55. > :10:04.The person you're thinking of, are they younger than you? Yes. Was
:10:04. > :10:12.this like a son type figure? Yes. Has your son passed on? Yes. OK. I
:10:12. > :10:20.don't want you to get upset. No. it Daniel or something like that?
:10:20. > :10:24.It was Daniel. Yes. He would say, too many flowers? Why? I've got a
:10:24. > :10:30.load of flower bushes for his memory. OK. Is there a piece of
:10:30. > :10:34.jewellery that signifies this as well? Yes. A ring? Yes. That's
:10:34. > :10:40.interesting. How did it feel for you? I literally knew those things
:10:40. > :10:46.about you. That was scary. A bit scary. This is the person with dark
:10:46. > :10:55.hair. Yes. This length? Yes. Why is she saying about the dogs?
:10:55. > :10:58.Something to do with the dog or the dogs? That's creepy. What happened?
:10:58. > :11:08.Where I used to work, we'd sometimes get puppies in who were
:11:08. > :11:18.
:11:18. > :11:21.Who's she? Doreen. My ex-boss. She died about four years ago. I'm not
:11:21. > :11:25.psychic but I'm able to work out things about you, just from your
:11:25. > :11:29.responses and the way you react. That's all I'm doing. Finally, from
:11:29. > :11:31.the USA, world famous mentalist Banachek throws down the gauntlet.
:11:31. > :11:37.He runs the James Randi Foundation's Million Dollar
:11:37. > :11:41.Challenge to mediums who can prove they're genuine. Stephen Holbrook,
:11:41. > :11:45.if you truly are a genuine psychic, I challenge you to take our million
:11:45. > :11:49.dollars. I'll be as accommodating as I possibly can, but it must be
:11:50. > :11:52.under proper observable conditions. That's all that I ask. So, time to
:11:52. > :11:58.put these back on the table. Because all our professionals say
:11:58. > :12:04.that Stephen's phoneline to the dead is well, dead! So, what does
:12:04. > :12:08.Stephen say? For such a good talker, he turned remarkably quiet. He gave
:12:08. > :12:12.us a statement, which said he will: Never succumb to cold reading. His
:12:12. > :12:18.questions are for clarification of the facts. And our experts are not
:12:18. > :12:20.in the least bit qualified to judge his work. It also said Stephen
:12:20. > :12:25.didn't advertise his evenings as entertainment shows, because they
:12:25. > :12:30.were genuine. Yet, while he was telling us that he changed his
:12:30. > :12:35.website to say they were in fact for entertainment only. He wouldn't
:12:35. > :12:37.explain the contradiction. But stranger still were the messages
:12:37. > :12:44.Stephen got on the psychic phone from Ellis's fictional dead
:12:44. > :12:47.boyfriend. Remember, the one she made up? My boyfriend isn't dead
:12:47. > :12:51.and none of my boyfriends in the past have died. His statement said
:12:51. > :12:56.that was an appalling example of theft! Because the spirit's message
:12:56. > :13:01.was real, and meant for another person. Ellis had stolen it.
:13:01. > :13:06.Stephen wouldn't explain why the spirit didn't just say: No. That's
:13:06. > :13:09.not my ex-girlfriend! We have presented evidence suggesting
:13:09. > :13:12.Stephen Holbrook is not the real thing. That he uses techniques
:13:12. > :13:16.employed by entertainers. He now admits on his website that he is an
:13:16. > :13:20.entertainer. For years Stephen Holbrook has made a lot of money
:13:20. > :13:23.from exploiting people's grief. Some may get comfort from what he
:13:23. > :13:33.does but they need to consider the tricks of the trade we have shown
:13:33. > :13:39.
:13:39. > :13:44.On my blog this week I have written about the techniques used by the
:13:44. > :13:47.street and addiction -- magician to get those astonishing results.
:13:47. > :13:50.30 years ago two of Britain's most gifted climbers disappeared on
:13:50. > :13:54.Everest. What happened to Joe Tasker and Pete Boardman is still a
:13:54. > :13:58.mystery. But three decades on Joe's sister Terry has decided she needs
:13:58. > :14:08.to get to know her brother, and his passion for the mountains, a little
:14:08. > :14:11.
:14:11. > :14:14.This is Joe Tasker, a climbing legend, and still greatly missed.
:14:14. > :14:24.It's been 30 years since Joe and Pete Boardman lost their lives on
:14:24. > :14:26.
:14:26. > :14:30.Everest. A lot has been written about Joe and he was a prolific
:14:30. > :14:33.writer and he has left me a treasure trove of archive which has
:14:33. > :14:37.not been touched for 30 years and I hope I will find some answers to
:14:37. > :14:45.some of the questions I have been asking myself for years. It is
:14:45. > :14:47.strange because it is almost as though he is... Standing next to me.
:14:47. > :14:51.Terry needs to discover why he pursued this career and passion
:14:51. > :15:00.that cost him his life? And what went wrong on that last climb with
:15:00. > :15:03.Pete? Our house was further down at the end. At the corner of the
:15:03. > :15:06.street. The search for answers starts here in Hull and the street
:15:06. > :15:10.where Joe was born. His cousin remembers the family playing out.
:15:10. > :15:16.He was the boss, everywhere you went he was the leader. He seems to
:15:16. > :15:21.have control. That was Joe. listen to him? I grew up like that.
:15:21. > :15:27.He was the lead and he looked after you. He always knew what he wanted.
:15:27. > :15:32.Shortly after the Taskers moved to Teesside. From a big Catholic
:15:32. > :15:36.family of 10, this is Joe heading off to Ushaw College near Durham.
:15:36. > :15:39.Aged 12 he went to train as a priest, and some think this is
:15:39. > :15:48.where he discovered the spirit that would take him to some of the
:15:48. > :15:52.world's highest peaks. He enjoyed that one because he used to try and
:15:52. > :15:55.find different ways our bit. It was here, just down the road from the
:15:55. > :16:00.college that Joe got his first taste of climbing at a disused
:16:00. > :16:04.quarry. It would take me 10 minutes to do the overhang but it would
:16:04. > :16:09.take Jobe two minutes maximum to do the overhang. He would just go up
:16:09. > :16:13.and come back down again. He was the first one to do it. I wonder if
:16:13. > :16:18.he ever thought from climbing that he would actually climb the highest
:16:18. > :16:23.mountain in the world, probably not. I look on him still as a friend, in
:16:23. > :16:28.many ways, still see pictures in books and there still think of him
:16:28. > :16:31.as though we were alive. Seen Tony has helped me ground some of the
:16:31. > :16:36.things I have been reading about Joe and it was really interesting
:16:36. > :16:39.to see what impact he had on Joe's development because he obviously
:16:39. > :16:43.featured a lot in his early life and I was pleased I did it.
:16:43. > :16:50.Emotional but it was good. Joe now graduated from the Lakeland crags
:16:50. > :16:54.to a bigger challenge. I went to the Alps and it was just before I
:16:54. > :16:58.went to university and it was only after two or three years gradually
:16:58. > :17:05.finding my feet in the Alps that I went out there with a lad I had met
:17:05. > :17:09.at university, Dick. We were very different characters but on the
:17:09. > :17:19.mountains we seemed to gel. We were on the same way of late. We did not
:17:19. > :17:19.
:17:19. > :17:23.talk a lot. -- wavelength. He was very reliable. I felt I could rely
:17:23. > :17:26.on him all the time. Joe, Pete and Dick were now getting a reputation
:17:27. > :17:29.as the best young climbers of their generation and they had one the
:17:29. > :17:38.biggest of Mountains in their sights, K2. But things didn't go
:17:38. > :17:43.according to plan. We were being buried in an avalanche and Peter
:17:43. > :17:46.and Gordon survived and they'd dug it out and then they started to dig
:17:46. > :17:51.me out. Another other large came half-an-hour later and it destroyed
:17:51. > :17:54.our chances on that attempt. Will this be a last attempt on the
:17:54. > :17:59.mountain? All three of us want to go back and finish of those last
:17:59. > :18:05.few bits. You're going back? just feel there is no way we can
:18:05. > :18:12.stop ourselves. You would think after that you would back away a
:18:12. > :18:16.bit but each of us was hell-bent on almost self destruction relief.
:18:16. > :18:19.was emotional hearing this from people like Dick telling me. It was
:18:19. > :18:25.very moving. I think it must have been difficult for them as well
:18:25. > :18:28.because even after all of this time, 30 years, it is still very raw.
:18:28. > :18:36.years later Joe, Pete and Dick were back for the ultimate challenge, an
:18:36. > :18:41.unclimbed ridge of Everest. Sir Chris Bonington led the expedition.
:18:41. > :18:46.He could be quite tough and quite abrasive. He had a hard protective
:18:46. > :18:55.shell, if you like. As you got to know him you realised that
:18:55. > :19:00.underneath that tough shell There is a quite extraordinary warm heart.
:19:00. > :19:02.Normally you can just a romp across here. Watch your foot. It was a
:19:02. > :19:06.small team attempting a very ambitious climb, and soon they were
:19:06. > :19:11.one man down when Dick suffered a stroke and had to leave the
:19:11. > :19:15.expedition. It was heartbreaking for me really. Not only was it the
:19:15. > :19:21.end of the expedition for me, it was what I thought was the end of
:19:21. > :19:27.my climbing career really. Pete and Joe were going incredibly well and
:19:27. > :19:32.they wanted and deserved another go at it. I said, OK, you have that
:19:32. > :19:37.final go. That was a perfectly reasonable thing for them to do.
:19:37. > :19:41.These are the last pictures taken by Sir Chris of the climbers.
:19:41. > :19:47.Constantly you were in hope. We spend hours waiting but there was
:19:47. > :19:50.no sign at all. Then you were in hope that you had just completely
:19:51. > :19:56.misjudged a whole situation and they would be waiting for you at
:19:56. > :20:02.base camp. Of course my heart finally realised that was not going
:20:02. > :20:07.to happen and of course it did not. Two British climbers, Joe Tasker
:20:07. > :20:11.and Pete Boardman have been killed near the summit of Everest. Those
:20:11. > :20:15.three days were very difficult because there was always hope there
:20:15. > :20:20.really. There was hope that they would find him and he would come
:20:20. > :20:26.home in whatever state he was in. I think that to me is going to always
:20:26. > :20:33.be the unanswered question. We never had a body to bury. When I
:20:33. > :20:40.said goodbye to Joe I did not even say look after yourself because I
:20:40. > :20:46.assumed he would be coming back. supposition is that one of them
:20:46. > :20:51.collapsed. I think the possibility is it was Joe. I would say that
:20:51. > :20:57.Peter would never ever have left Joe one he was alive. They pushed
:20:57. > :21:01.hard, they took risks, that is what climbing is all about. Those last
:21:01. > :21:06.days were something that I had not really heard before and to me that
:21:06. > :21:09.was good because it made me feel a bit better, particularly when they
:21:09. > :21:14.were saying that Pete just fell asleep in the snow when Joe was
:21:14. > :21:17.probably there as well. Knowing more about what happened on Everest,
:21:17. > :21:20.Terry now feels it's the right time for others to share in the
:21:20. > :21:27.wonderful archive he left behind. Today she's handing it over to the
:21:27. > :21:31.Mountain Heritage Trust in Penrith. What I love about archives is it
:21:31. > :21:36.almost enables you to sit in the seat of that person. You were
:21:36. > :21:41.reading through and you can peer Joe's voice, I did not have that
:21:41. > :21:46.privilege, but obviously reading his letters and his poems and his
:21:46. > :21:53.diary entries, it does help to give you a sense of that person and they
:21:53. > :21:56.continue to live. I think talking to other people can bring it
:21:56. > :22:02.actually to the fore and that has helped me tremendously. It was
:22:02. > :22:06.something I knew would be difficult and I didn't really want to face it.
:22:06. > :22:11.To a climber, one wants to try something that you think is going
:22:11. > :22:16.to test you to the utmost, climbing the highest mountain in the world
:22:16. > :22:22.is obviously a very big challenge. I have now got more of his story.
:22:22. > :22:29.It has made be really proud of M, as a brother and of -- and as a
:22:29. > :22:32.person. It is like the closing of a chapter. It's easy to marvel at
:22:32. > :22:37.some of the craftsmanship that has helped shape the north even when,
:22:37. > :22:39.like the Priory here, it's seen better days. But one of the
:22:39. > :22:42.region's greatest treasures is being treated to a magnificent
:22:42. > :22:52.facelift, a painstaking restoration that's calling on calling on very
:22:52. > :22:56.
:22:56. > :22:59.special skills. Keeley Donovan Among the majestic splendours of
:22:59. > :23:03.York Minster there's one that many feel stands out. The Great East
:23:03. > :23:06.Window. Perhaps the finest and largest Medaeval stained glass
:23:06. > :23:14.window in the world, it has brought pilgrims from around the globe for
:23:14. > :23:17.centuries to marvel at its intricate design. That was until
:23:17. > :23:19.2008, when all this Scaffolding went up and it sadly disappeared
:23:19. > :23:22.from view. Regular visitors were heartbroken as the great
:23:22. > :23:27.masterpiece was taken down bit by bit, and removed for essential
:23:27. > :23:37.repairs. In its place has hung this this digital reproduction, in
:23:37. > :23:37.
:23:37. > :23:41.itself one of the the world's biggest examples of graphic art.
:23:41. > :23:44.But soon visitors will be able to see the real Great Window up close
:23:44. > :23:47.and personal in a way they never could have had access before. For
:23:47. > :23:50.the past few years the window has been undergoing restoration here at
:23:51. > :23:58.the York Glaziers Trust, and I'm about to go inside to see how the
:23:58. > :24:03.craftsmen and women are getting on in their Herculean task. The first
:24:03. > :24:08.thing we do is make a robbing so we have effectively a map locating all
:24:09. > :24:13.the individual glass pieces and all of their relationships to the legs.
:24:13. > :24:17.Then you take the lead out? Taking the lead out of the panel and then
:24:17. > :24:22.we can lay out on top of the rubbing or the individual glass
:24:22. > :24:32.pieces that make up this very complicated jigsaw. She is cleaning
:24:32. > :24:37.away it rested you, dirt from lamps, gas lighting, cobweb and dust.
:24:37. > :24:41.residue. Taking the window as one huge storyboard its designer used
:24:41. > :24:45.the stained-glass panels to reveal an epic vision of the Apocalypse.
:24:45. > :24:49.He took a vision that was not uncommon in the Middle Ages but he
:24:49. > :24:53.readmission good for his own time and created a work of immense
:24:53. > :24:56.ambition, imagination and power. How are the techniques and skills
:24:56. > :25:01.changing since the window was first made? Some of the techniques have
:25:01. > :25:05.changed very little. The way that we will eventually replace the
:25:05. > :25:10.window would be recognisable to medieval glaziers. One thing that
:25:10. > :25:15.has changed is the way we cut glass. That means that when we are trying
:25:15. > :25:20.to distinguish between medieval glass and any insertions introduced
:25:20. > :25:26.from the 18th century onwards, examining the edges of the glass
:25:26. > :25:30.can be very helpful. This class is actually very sturdy. It is thick
:25:30. > :25:40.and solid and sometimes the glasses almost as thin as an eggshell. That
:25:40. > :25:42.
:25:42. > :25:45.is when you have to be really careful and it is quite nerve-
:25:45. > :25:49.racking. In Thornton's day the paints would have been fixed mixed
:25:49. > :25:55.with wine and urine, today they use Vinegar and lavender water. This is
:25:55. > :25:59.the finished article? Now the relationship between class and led
:25:59. > :26:03.is as close as the relationship that we can get it. Now we see
:26:03. > :26:08.glass not submerged under lead and as a consequence of that and the
:26:08. > :26:15.cleaning of the window it is brighter and lighter and the drama
:26:15. > :26:18.of the scene emerges from that gloom. But the painstaking work
:26:18. > :26:21.going on here is just part of a complicated jigsaw which will see
:26:21. > :26:24.the panels being displayed with a very 21st century twist. A few
:26:24. > :26:27.miles away from the antique glaziers, a group of high tech
:26:27. > :26:32.computer experts are hard at work creating a fresh new setting for
:26:32. > :26:35.some of the panels. Together with engineers and joiners, they're
:26:35. > :26:38.putting together a Grand Orb, a sort of mini time capsule where
:26:38. > :26:43.visitors to the Minster will soon be able to step inside and see a
:26:43. > :26:46.some of the restored stained glass face to face. And today for the
:26:46. > :26:53.first time those in charge of the project have come to see how their
:26:53. > :26:57.plans are starting to come to life. When visitors enter the space they
:26:57. > :27:02.are presented with five conserved panels from the window. They are
:27:02. > :27:04.allowed to get right up to the glass so this is a once-in-a-
:27:04. > :27:10.lifetime opportunity for visitors to see not only these particular
:27:10. > :27:16.panes of glass but the details. am nervous but excited. I think it
:27:16. > :27:20.will be a great credit to everyone who has been involved in delivering
:27:20. > :27:26.theirs. Whether the team confident on the right track is start to --
:27:26. > :27:36.time to start assembling the AW. With more than 13,000 pieces to put
:27:36. > :27:39.
:27:39. > :27:43.together it takes a team of six many weeks to complete it. And
:27:43. > :27:45.today, with everything now in place, it's time to see if this latest
:27:45. > :27:49.chapter in the Minster's colourful history has gone according to the
:27:49. > :27:54.script. And who better than Sarah to help me assess the finished work.
:27:54. > :27:58.Well, it is so bright and clear. I am thrilled and excited. It enables
:27:58. > :28:01.you to appreciate these on a par with the great paintings in the
:28:01. > :28:05.National Gallery. And Sarah's not the only one who's impressed. Early
:28:05. > :28:09.visitors are giving it the thumbs up too. I think it is fantastic
:28:10. > :28:13.that we can see what was going through the minds of the workers.
:28:13. > :28:17.But what would the designer John Thornton make of it if he was
:28:17. > :28:24.teleported through time? I hope he would have been gratified that 600
:28:24. > :28:28.years later we were so impressed with his work. To see yet I eye-
:28:28. > :28:32.level in an exhibition I think you would have found peculiar.
:28:32. > :28:35.window is due to be fully restored and back in place in 2016 and it'll
:28:36. > :28:41.be a few hundred years before anyone gets the chance to come this
:28:41. > :28:44.close again. A rather beautiful end to tonight's programme. That is it
:28:45. > :28:47.for tonight. Next week: The military style