:00:00. > :00:11.In the next half an hour, whth the NHS in the North East paying private
:00:12. > :00:16.ambulance companies to take us to hospital, do we know who we are
:00:17. > :00:26.really dealing with? The first time we went out, it would not start Why
:00:27. > :00:33.have substandard vehicles to carry members of the public around? He was
:00:34. > :00:38.banned by the kennel club and he sells six puppies. I finallx caught
:00:39. > :00:45.up with him. Why are you involved in the selling of aggressive docs to
:00:46. > :00:47.complete strangers? Stories from the heart of the North East and Cumbria.
:00:48. > :01:05.This is Inside Out. If ever you have to be rushdd to
:01:06. > :01:09.hospital by ambulance, you're probably assume it is an NHS
:01:10. > :01:15.paramedic or driver looking after you. In fact, it is just as likely
:01:16. > :01:21.to be a private ambulance company. So now you are thinking thex have
:01:22. > :01:26.been fully vetted by the NHS. Here in the North East it seems we have
:01:27. > :01:33.not police this new frontier of health care. So I have turndd
:01:34. > :01:41.sheriff to investigate. It hs a bit like eight lawless land where anyone
:01:42. > :01:48.can do what they want. It is shocking it was allowed to get to
:01:49. > :01:54.that point. . `` it is a horrible feeling. People should not be
:01:55. > :02:00.allowed to do that. A fronther where the world of Ambulance Servhces have
:02:01. > :02:06.been open up to private companies. As in any Western, there ard good
:02:07. > :02:11.skies and bad skies. It is like the wild West out there. Last ydar the
:02:12. > :02:17.NHS spend ?50 million on prhvate ambulance firms. It is a bit like a
:02:18. > :02:23.cold rush. In the North East, the NHS paid one company more than
:02:24. > :02:30.?600,000, but it disappeared without trace, leaving a very bad t`ste Two
:02:31. > :02:36.years on and one of the men behind East Coast is back. Matthew Quigley
:02:37. > :02:41.is his name. He rolled into town in 2011. One of the heat guns `t East
:02:42. > :02:50.Coast. To start with, things went well. East Coast supply par`medics
:02:51. > :02:59.and then started running and balances. They recruited drhvers
:03:00. > :03:06.with post advertised in the job centre. I thought it was gohng to be
:03:07. > :03:14.something good. This job cale up and the wage was really good. I was
:03:15. > :03:19.delighted. Drivers were recruited, trained and ready for work. We
:03:20. > :03:22.turned up at the East Coast ambulance headquarters and ht was a
:03:23. > :03:32.parking space. The first dax we went out, the balloons would not start.
:03:33. > :03:36.Why have substandard vehiclds that were not properly equipped to run
:03:37. > :03:41.members of the public around in Because behind the scenes the wagon
:03:42. > :03:52.wheels had come off. There was a wrangle over invoices. East Coast's
:03:53. > :03:56.contract was terminated. Thdy would tell us anything, mostly by e`mail.
:03:57. > :04:05.You could not get hold of anyone on the phone. I did not care about what
:04:06. > :04:12.was going on, I just wanted my wages that I had worked for. I had
:04:13. > :04:23.nothing. Financially, I was in Paris to because I had to go cap hn hand
:04:24. > :04:29.to my partner. `` I was embarrassed. I had to ask mx father
:04:30. > :04:37.for money. He is a pensioner. They have no choice, they had to call in
:04:38. > :04:43.the law. Eight drivers took the company to court and won ?24,00 in
:04:44. > :04:50.unpaid wages. Meanwhile, Debbie Surman dog into Matthew Quigley s
:04:51. > :04:57.past. There is a paper trail that leads back to all the peopld he has
:04:58. > :05:04.dealt with. I am an ordinarx person who wanted to find out who H was
:05:05. > :05:07.dealing with. What she found out about Matthew Quigley was straight
:05:08. > :05:14.out of the movies. He was involved in a string of private ambulance
:05:15. > :05:18.companies that went belly up owing the NHS and you and me tens of
:05:19. > :05:31.thousands of pounds. He has been in the game a long time. First there
:05:32. > :05:39.was Medi`Logistics. It coll`psed in 2006, owing millions, including
:05:40. > :05:43.?67,000 to the NHS. Matthew Quigley walked away just days beford the
:05:44. > :05:50.end. His next company went the same way and again he quit days before it
:05:51. > :05:57.fell apart. He was cleared `nd cropped in 2007. Game over? No. He
:05:58. > :06:04.was back at the table with Dvolved Medical Services, a third private
:06:05. > :06:10.ambulance company. It also went down, leaving more than ?3 lillion
:06:11. > :06:20.in bets. Graphic designer Lhsa Kew was owed money. For a period it went
:06:21. > :06:27.fine and then there were waves of it not going fine and again, that
:06:28. > :06:33.company folded. He owed me puite a lot of money. She was owed 3500
:06:34. > :06:41.pounds in unpaid bills and he disappeared, or so she taught. He
:06:42. > :06:45.had the nerve to call and s`y what I do more branding for another
:06:46. > :06:51.company. I told him he must be joking. Remember, this all happened
:06:52. > :07:02.before my Matthew Quigley c`me to Newcastle. What checks had they done
:07:03. > :07:09.behind the people behind East Coast? In hindsight, I wish we had done
:07:10. > :07:14.more detailed checks. One wd investigated, we found out there was
:07:15. > :07:20.a whole catalogue of issues. It is not rocket science. I understand
:07:21. > :07:32.what you are saying. I wish the team had known about his past. What steps
:07:33. > :07:49.have been taken to warn the rest of the NHS? I have spoken to the
:07:50. > :07:57.finance team. However, therd is more that I could have done. Back in the
:07:58. > :08:01.wild West, Matthew Quigley has turned up again, touting for
:08:02. > :08:12.business online. I posed as a wealthy investor. He told md there
:08:13. > :08:24.was a company for cell in the North East. Not surprisingly, Matthew did
:08:25. > :08:30.not want to speak to the re`l me. He told me he was not investing in the
:08:31. > :08:36.North East. However, what about his creditors? He said there were no
:08:37. > :08:47.losses and he blamed the delise of these posts on another director
:08:48. > :08:57.When it comes to Matthew Quhgley, you're not going to do business with
:08:58. > :09:02.him again, you? No, absolutdly not. We would like to have a verx long
:09:03. > :09:07.chat with him about his conduct and professional ethics and how he
:09:08. > :09:16.treats people who are trying to make an honest living, and how c`n he
:09:17. > :09:19.sleep at night? The industrx is now related by the Care Quality
:09:20. > :09:25.Commission. We asked them for an interview, but they declined. I ll
:09:26. > :09:30.how from the Department of Health also did not want to be intdrviewed,
:09:31. > :09:36.but he said the CQC now has powers to remove directors who are keen to
:09:37. > :09:44.be unfit. The real test is hf someone else tries it on. Whll they
:09:45. > :09:53.be run out of town? It is great when you respond to our
:09:54. > :10:03.show. There are some things you keep contacting us about, includhng a
:10:04. > :10:07.couple of dog breeders. We have received complaints about them for
:10:08. > :10:19.years, so we thought it was time to open our case files again.
:10:20. > :10:24.This one comes round again `nd again. I have two big probldms in
:10:25. > :10:29.County Durham. Problem one ` Darran Green. In 2005, we caught hhm
:10:30. > :10:33.bringing puppies from Ireland to sell. People said the dogs they
:10:34. > :10:36.bought from his family were ill or worse still. We only had hil for
:10:37. > :10:43.about six hours, from start to finish, before he died. We `rranged
:10:44. > :10:50.to to buy a puppy from Darr`n's stepson Robert Emberson. Thdn this
:10:51. > :10:58.happened. Nice guy. Then thdre's problem two. Kevin Knox. For five
:10:59. > :11:06.years, customers have been telling us he's... An idiot. Among other
:11:07. > :11:10.things. We investigated him twice in 2010. He'd sold many sick ptppies
:11:11. > :11:18.too. I was just crying my exes out, I couldn't believe it. So what are
:11:19. > :11:21.these men up to now? Word is that Knox is sill selling sick and
:11:22. > :11:28.diseased puppies. And Darren Green's dogs? They are dangerous or could be
:11:29. > :11:31.dangerous in the wrong hands. I'm back in County Durham, to
:11:32. > :11:39.investigate Knox and Green. I have one question. Why can't these two
:11:40. > :11:42.men be shut down for good? Ivy Leaf Kennels. The notorhous
:11:43. > :11:46.business run by Kevin Knox. My case file has been growing since I first
:11:47. > :11:51.investigated him. The latest complaint is about a puppy called
:11:52. > :11:54.Austin. We fell in love with him straightaway, the girls absolutely
:11:55. > :11:57.loved him. But within days of bringing him home from Kevin Knox's
:11:58. > :12:04.kennels, Austin took a turn for the worse. I went with my husband, took
:12:05. > :12:08.him to the vet's. She took one look at him, he was very limp, she took
:12:09. > :12:12.one look and said he's very very poorly. The vet said Austin had
:12:13. > :12:20.symptoms of an illness similar to the deadly and infectious
:12:21. > :12:23.Parvovirus. We had to put hhm to sleep. How did that affect
:12:24. > :12:26.everybody? Horrendous. We wdre just absolutely gutted, the girls were
:12:27. > :12:36.heart broken, we were heartbroken. It was really hard. In all, how long
:12:37. > :12:42.did you have Austin? Seven days but we only had him home with us for
:12:43. > :12:45.five. Every sick dog sold by Ivy Leaf
:12:46. > :12:48.Kennels means a family emothonally distraught. Mickey had so m`ny
:12:49. > :12:51.illnesses, he had to be rehomed Bobby had to be shaved bald to treat
:12:52. > :12:55.a severe skin infection. And Mollie's problems have left her
:12:56. > :13:01.owners with vets' bills of lore than ?7,000. Customers say Kevin Knox
:13:02. > :13:09.runs a pile 'em high, sell 'em cheap operation. There was loads of
:13:10. > :13:11.different breeds, so alarm bells started going. Charlotte botght a
:13:12. > :13:15.beagle, Tetley. Then later went back for another,
:13:16. > :13:23.Petal, because she felt sorry for the dogs at Ivy Leaf. Both have had
:13:24. > :13:28.a catalogue of problems. Tetley has digestion issues and he was full of
:13:29. > :13:31.worms when we got him. Petal, she's had a lot of problems, weepx eyes,
:13:32. > :13:40.she can't sniff or breathe properly. She has a dodgy defect in hdr paw.
:13:41. > :13:45.So with all this evidence, surely Knox has been shut down. No? No In
:13:46. > :13:51.fact, it's boom time for Kevin Knox. A bonanza. Local newspapers
:13:52. > :13:55.advertise his puppies. Marc Abraham is a vet who campaigns against puppy
:13:56. > :14:00.farms. He took a look at Knox's website.
:14:01. > :14:06.There are many levels as to why this sort of website is disturbing. The
:14:07. > :14:08.last thing you expect to sed from a responsible breeder is a shopping
:14:09. > :14:11.basket icon. There's a Payp`l, there's a Google checkout.
:14:12. > :14:15.Everything on this website hs about selling high volume puppies. In my
:14:16. > :14:20.opinion, he's an irresponsible puppy seller.
:14:21. > :14:31.We've asked Kevin Knox many times for an interview. This time, again,
:14:32. > :14:36.Kevin Knox declined our offdr. He points out he's fully licensed as a
:14:37. > :14:38.pet shop. He said that all his puppies are constantly monitored and
:14:39. > :14:42.checked by a veterinary surgeon before they're handed over. Mr Knox
:14:43. > :14:44.says that even in the most well regulated businesses, there are
:14:45. > :14:47.certain unforeseen events that can and do happen.
:14:48. > :14:53.So can Kevin Knox be stopped? Two Facebook campaign groups ard trying
:14:54. > :14:56.to ask the authorities to step in. So what happens when people complain
:14:57. > :15:07.to the RSPCA? They weren't willing to go in and investigate thdmselves.
:15:08. > :15:15.They were wanting me to go hn. They asked me if I could pretend to buy a
:15:16. > :15:18.puppy and secretly film it. So can't the council step in? Well,
:15:19. > :15:21.Durham County Council actually gives Kevin Knox's business a helping
:15:22. > :15:24.hand. By allowing him both ` dog breeders' licence. And a pet shop
:15:25. > :15:28.licence. Durham County Council should be absolutely ashamed. Not
:15:29. > :15:31.only is this going on in thdir own area, but they've been alerted to
:15:32. > :15:35.it, they have been given intelligence about it. It's there
:15:36. > :15:40.for all to see. I'm chasing the council and the RSPCA. So Kdvin Knox
:15:41. > :15:46.is still trading. Meanwhile, what about my other problem ` Darran
:15:47. > :15:59.Green? I've had a tip off that even the police have been helping his
:16:00. > :16:04.business. This line of enquhry begins in the village of Toft Hill.
:16:05. > :16:07.And a complaint about anothdr puppy. We got half way home before she
:16:08. > :16:12.started bleeding from her rdar end and we went straight to the vets
:16:13. > :16:15.with her. That puppy was Alhce the bassett hound. Bought in December
:16:16. > :16:19.2012 for Sherrill's family. A dog that'll be visiting the vets for
:16:20. > :16:32.life, not just for Christmas. She's such a tiny dog. She should be twice
:16:33. > :16:35.the weight she is. She's got a chronic bowel condition. Solething I
:16:36. > :16:39.suspect she was born with which has resulted in her not being able to
:16:40. > :16:41.digest her food properly. Sherrill and her daughter Kirsty facd a
:16:42. > :16:45.heartbreaking decision. Keep Alice on medication for the rest of her
:16:46. > :16:49.life? Or have her put to sldep? If we can't get her where she's not
:16:50. > :16:53.suffering, then it's no quality of life and as a responsible pdt owner
:16:54. > :16:57.you think it's time you part with them. Absolutely furious. To see
:16:58. > :17:02.that a puppy's in so much p`in, but that the adults around it are
:17:03. > :17:07.suffering as well. So where did they get Alice? From Jodie Green.
:17:08. > :17:11.Daughter of Consett dog dealer Darran Green. Sherrill met Darran
:17:12. > :17:20.Green when she bought the ptppy Mr Darran Green, there lies another
:17:21. > :17:23.tale! The man has attitude to burn! Sang the praises of his bredding of
:17:24. > :17:30.rottweilers. Rottweilers? Hang on a minute?
:17:31. > :17:33.Darran Green was always known to me for selling sick puppies. Btt this
:17:34. > :17:37.is more his style nowadays. Steinhugle Rottweilers. Darran
:17:38. > :17:44.Green's latest venture. What a combination! A breed dogged by a bad
:17:45. > :17:50.reputation. And a man who's just the same. I've spoken with many
:17:51. > :17:54.Rottweiler breeders across the north who have concerns. This bredder
:17:55. > :17:57.would only talk anonymously. Up and down the country, most of them have
:17:58. > :18:04.heard of Darran Green. The breed doesn't need people like hil.
:18:05. > :18:08.Darran Green operates out of a modest terraced house in Ivdston
:18:09. > :18:12.near Consett. And his website explains it all. He imports
:18:13. > :18:17.Rottweilers from Germany. They're bred for security work.
:18:18. > :18:21.They have a bigger temperamdnt if I can put like that. Most of them are
:18:22. > :18:24.better suited outside, to an outside environment, in kennels and they
:18:25. > :18:27.need to be worked. Where thdy perhaps aren't worked, aren't
:18:28. > :18:34.exercised, that's when they become a ticking time bomb. We've he`rd
:18:35. > :18:37.concerns Darran has sold dogs to people who aren't trained to handle
:18:38. > :18:40.them. We've had about four or five people contact us, they've `ll been
:18:41. > :18:45.with aggression/behavioural problems, unable to handle this
:18:46. > :18:49.rottweiler from Darran Green. It's not the first time I've heard that.
:18:50. > :18:58.Remember Sherrill Cockburn's chance meeting with Green? I was jtst
:18:59. > :19:01.talking to him. And I had mx hand on the wall and the Rottweiler jumped
:19:02. > :19:05.up and snacked at my fingers! He didn't tell it to bite me, no. It
:19:06. > :19:09.just felt the need! I've bedn contacted by someone else who says
:19:10. > :19:14.they were bitten by one of Darran Green's dogs. Two victims. @nd it
:19:15. > :19:18.gets worse. I've got hold of an email. It's from an estate `gent who
:19:19. > :19:27.went to the farm the Greens were renting. So they received a warm
:19:28. > :19:32.welcome? On arrival at the property. I was told by Mrs Green not to get
:19:33. > :19:36.out of the car as I would bd bitten by one of the dogs. With all the
:19:37. > :19:40.recent headlines about dog `ttacks, this is worrying. But it's hard to
:19:41. > :19:44.keep tabs on Darran Green's dogs because he's a proven liar. Nine
:19:45. > :19:47.years ago, I'd heard he sold dogs with false registration doctments.
:19:48. > :19:51.Well, now he has a criminal record. I've just been looking at the court
:19:52. > :19:54.records and they make for interesting reading. Becausd in
:19:55. > :20:00.2011, Darren Green pleaded guilty to three charges under the unf`ir
:20:01. > :20:03.trading regulations. In a nttshell, he claimed his dogs were registered
:20:04. > :20:06.with the Kennel Club when they weren't. Darran Green was fhned by
:20:07. > :20:12.the court and banned from registering dogs with the Kdnnel
:20:13. > :20:16.Club until 2018. So you might be surprised about what I've
:20:17. > :20:25.discovered. I've had a tip off that worries me. Apparently, the family
:20:26. > :20:28.business has been supported by not one but two police forces. Xears
:20:29. > :20:31.after I investigated Darran and his step`son and got some aggro for my
:20:32. > :20:39.troubles, Northumbria Policd actually paid Darran ?1,500 for
:20:40. > :20:42.services to do with dogs. Then last year, after Darran and his wife had
:20:43. > :20:45.criminal records over their dog dealing, Cleveland Police actually
:20:46. > :20:51.bought the dog in this video. But they paid the Greens' daughter,
:20:52. > :20:55.Jodie, ?900. Why would the police help the family business? Cleveland
:20:56. > :20:59.Police say the welfare of their dogs is paramount and they carry out
:21:00. > :21:01.checks to make sure dogs ard suitable for police work.
:21:02. > :21:04.Northumbria Police said thex hired Darran Green once for whelphng
:21:05. > :21:13.puppies, because there wasn't anyone else who could do it. They'd carried
:21:14. > :21:17.out a visit here to his kennels at the time and told us the prdmises
:21:18. > :21:19.and services offered at that particular time were deemed
:21:20. > :21:26.satisfactory to the immediate needs of the organisation. But surely the
:21:27. > :21:31.big question is should someone like Darran Green be allowed to sell
:21:32. > :21:39.specialist security dogs? Thme to go undercover. This is James. He's a
:21:40. > :21:44.wide boy who wants a dog to do a job. He has young kids. In short,
:21:45. > :21:48.he's about the most inappropriate owner of a working Rottweildr you
:21:49. > :21:50.can ever imagine. He's going to Darran Green's house with a view to
:21:51. > :22:05.buying a puppy. Darran Green doesn't turn hhm away.
:22:06. > :22:09.Instead, he shows James two bitches that are about to give birth.
:22:10. > :22:17.Remember, Darran is banned from the Kennel Club.
:22:18. > :22:30.He's not allowed to register any litters in his name.
:22:31. > :22:42.James asks some more logical questions.
:22:43. > :22:47.Yeah, perfect temperament then( ) he tells you it's OK if it kills you as
:22:48. > :23:08.long as there's a good reason for killing you.
:23:09. > :23:14.It's OK if it kills you as long as there's a good reason for khlling
:23:15. > :23:17.you. David Davies is a formdr police dog handler and a professional dog
:23:18. > :23:19.trainer. He knows how rottwdilers like Darran Green's should
:23:20. > :23:27.Do you think, in this instance, Darran Green was acting responsibly?
:23:28. > :23:31.I didn't hear any hard sell or anything like that, but I thought it
:23:32. > :23:37.was appalling to be perfectly truthful. So if someone camd to you
:23:38. > :23:41.and said they're after a dog to provide some security, but they have
:23:42. > :23:45.kids in the house and, oh bx the way I know nothing about dogs, what
:23:46. > :23:50.would you do? Ask them to go and buy a cat. Darran Green, Kevin Knox We
:23:51. > :23:55.wanted to ask the authoritids what they are doing about these len.
:23:56. > :24:00.Firstly, the RSPCA. We cont`cted them on the 5th of February. And the
:24:01. > :24:07.sixth. The 10th. And 11th and 1 th. Until on the 17th, they told us they
:24:08. > :24:11.wouldn't be interviewed. Thdy say anyone worried about dog brdeders
:24:12. > :24:15.should go to the council first. The RSPCA told us, as long as pdople are
:24:16. > :24:20.prepared to hand over their money for a puppy that has been bred with
:24:21. > :24:23.profit in mind, it will continue. They said where they had evhdence
:24:24. > :24:29.that animals are suffering, they will investigate. The RSPCA wouldn't
:24:30. > :24:33.comment directly on either Knox or Green. They'd only comment on
:24:34. > :24:38.individuals if they'd deciddd to prosecute. And when we asked them if
:24:39. > :24:42.they expected members of thd public to secretly film for them, we were
:24:43. > :24:46.stonewalled. They never answered the question. We also wanted an
:24:47. > :24:51.interview with Durham Countx Council. We asked them on the fourth
:24:52. > :24:56.February. On the fifth. On the 0th, the 11th and the 12th. On the 1 th,
:24:57. > :25:03.they said they wouldn't spe`k with me. Instead, they too, sent a
:25:04. > :25:06.statement. They told us Kevhn Knox is inspected every year to dnsure
:25:07. > :25:11.that the conditions attached to the licences are being complied with.
:25:12. > :25:14.They say they investigate every complaint about mis`selling or about
:25:15. > :25:17.dogs that are ill and have `lways responded appropriately basdd on the
:25:18. > :25:21.nature of the issue raised `nd evidence provided. They say their
:25:22. > :25:26.records do not show large ntmbers of complaints about Knox or Grden.
:25:27. > :25:36.Durham County Council brought the 2011 criminal charges against Darran
:25:37. > :25:39.and his wife Heather. They've since advised him and his associates of
:25:40. > :25:42.the legal responsibilities hn relation to selling animals to
:25:43. > :25:44.ensure compliance with the Consumer Protection from Unfair Tradhng
:25:45. > :25:47.Regulations In order for thd council to take action regarding alleged
:25:48. > :25:51.breaches of the criminal law they would need to be in a posithon to
:25:52. > :26:00.prove matters beyond reason`ble doubt.
:26:01. > :26:07.Darran Green himself has always avoided our questions. So wd had no
:26:08. > :26:12.choice but to catch him unawares. We've called Darran Green to a
:26:13. > :26:16.meeting. He thinks he's going to be selling me some dogs. In fact, after
:26:17. > :26:23.nine years of waiting, this will be the showdown.
:26:24. > :26:30.I'm from BBC Television. I'l wondering why it is that yot are
:26:31. > :26:38.involved in the selling of aggressive dogs? Never sold an
:26:39. > :26:44.aggressive dog in my life. Never? Never. But you boast about how some
:26:45. > :26:47.of your dogs are nasty, thex'd have you straightaway. I never s`y
:26:48. > :26:50.anything like that. What about the Kennel Club registration ` xou're
:26:51. > :26:53.banned, how can they be Kennel Club registered? Which dogs? The ones
:26:54. > :26:57.you're selling to people. You're saying they're registered in your
:26:58. > :27:01.name. Did I say that? Yeah. No, no. Your name or one of your falily
:27:02. > :27:09.members' names. I didn't sax that, that's definitely not true. Isn t it
:27:10. > :27:13.irresponsible to not ask questions...? What's irresponsible
:27:14. > :27:16.is the fact that you try to hassle me, bombard me, cause me grhef for
:27:17. > :27:22.having what is probably the most highly trained dogs in the TK.
:27:23. > :27:26.Obviously, you're going to `ir something. Are you going to air in a
:27:27. > :27:34.fair manner or do whatever xou've done in the past and make md look
:27:35. > :27:41.the bad one? And finally he left me with some life advice. In ftture, be
:27:42. > :27:45.a man. Just be a man in futtre. Ring me up and say, "Darran, can we have
:27:46. > :27:49.a talk?" This is pathetic bdhaviour. The type of scumbags you ard. So we
:27:50. > :27:55.did ring him up and asked, "Darran can we have a talk?" He declined our
:27:56. > :27:58.offer of an interview. In the nine years I've been investigating this,
:27:59. > :28:01.not once have any of the authorities agreed to be interviewed. Not the
:28:02. > :28:06.council, not the police, not the RSPCA. Of course, I'll pass my
:28:07. > :28:12.evidence to them ` again ` but the question is will they act?
:28:13. > :28:18.On my blog, I've more on public bodies paid for by you and le who
:28:19. > :28:24.seem ever more reluctant to answer my questions on camera. Fortunately,
:28:25. > :28:28.I can always rely on you to come up with ideas and suggestions for the
:28:29. > :28:32.topics we should cover. You'd be surprised how many stories start off
:28:33. > :28:38.as a call or email from you. So keep them coming, contacts details are on
:28:39. > :28:42.the blog. That brings us to the end of the show and the current series.
:28:43. > :28:47.We'll be back a little later on in the year, so keep an eye out for us.
:28:48. > :28:50.Until then from all the Inshde Out team here in the North East
:28:51. > :28:51.andCumbria, take care and sde you soon. Till then from Sunderland
:28:52. > :29:12.goodnight. Hello. The 92nd update. The Oscar
:29:13. > :29:13.Pistorius trial has begun