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:00:08. > :00:12.Welcome to tonight's programme. We will be at Jodrell Bank, behind the

:00:12. > :00:18.scenes of the Stargazing Live programme. It starts on BBC Two

:00:18. > :00:22.tonight. More on that later. One tonight's programme, the losers in

:00:22. > :00:27.the Commonwealth legacy, why Manchester families feel let down

:00:27. > :00:33.by promises of regeneration that never happened. It was like a child

:00:33. > :00:39.coming down for Christmas Day with no presence. The man starting a new

:00:39. > :00:44.career where he is the boss. A lot of us out there are over 50 and

:00:44. > :00:52.have been made redundant, sit down and start working out a plan for

:00:52. > :01:02.life. We meet Brian Cox. Astronomy is the new rock and roll. To find

:01:02. > :01:08.

:01:08. > :01:12.out more keep watching this The Olympic Games are just over six

:01:12. > :01:16.months away now. One of the hopes for London 2012 is it will

:01:16. > :01:24.regenerate one of the poorest parts of the capital. Similar predictions

:01:24. > :01:27.were made about east Manchester during the Commonwealth Games, but

:01:27. > :01:37.residents say they have seen little investment and feel totally have

:01:37. > :01:52.

:01:52. > :01:56.The success of the Cup the success of the Commonwealth Games can be

:01:56. > :02:00.seen all the Manchester. It was also a catalyst for the

:02:00. > :02:05.regeneration of east Manchester, with new housing built in some of

:02:05. > :02:08.the most deprived areas of the city. Now Manchester City Football Club

:02:08. > :02:11.is building a football academy and training complex next to the Etihad

:02:11. > :02:14.Stadium. It is hoped the new campus will create jobs in the area and

:02:14. > :02:17.boost the local economy. The residents say they have heard

:02:17. > :02:19.it all before. Ten years ago, they were told that when the

:02:19. > :02:22.Commonwealth Games stadium was built here it would totally

:02:22. > :02:26.regenerate east Manchester. But for those living in the Openshaw West

:02:26. > :02:32.area, such promises proved hollow. They say they have not seen any

:02:32. > :02:35.improvement as a result of the games.

:02:36. > :02:39.The Games area and everything round there is good for the community but

:02:39. > :02:47.we feel as if we have been left out of that community because we have

:02:47. > :02:50.got nothing here in this one. When you get the electricity man

:02:50. > :02:53.coming to do your meter and he says, "Oh, ain't it bad round here?",

:02:53. > :02:56."What do you mean?" Because you get a bit prickly then. "What about

:02:56. > :03:02.that street down there? Dunston Street, it's terrible, it's like

:03:02. > :03:12.Beirut." The new Eddie had football academy is being built less than a

:03:12. > :03:15.mile from here. -- Etihad. Manchester City Football Club is

:03:15. > :03:18.spending �100 million building what is described as one of the best

:03:18. > :03:20.sports facilities in the world. By contrast, the residents of Openshaw

:03:20. > :03:24.West say that their area is abandoned and left to decline.

:03:24. > :03:27.In 2001, this was a full row of houses, I had a business on the end,

:03:27. > :03:30.a fish and chip shop. Steve Green's shop was compulsory

:03:30. > :03:35.purchased along with rest of the street to make way for new

:03:35. > :03:39.development. They knocked it down, flattened it.

:03:39. > :03:44.What did you expect to replace it, we were told they were developing a

:03:44. > :03:48.master plan so that the other houses in the rear would be boarded

:03:48. > :03:55.up and knock down. They said a company would redevelop the area,

:03:55. > :04:04.bringing saleable housing. How do you feel about the area? I feel we

:04:04. > :04:14.have been let down in a lot of ways. Other places have all been

:04:14. > :04:15.

:04:16. > :04:19.regenerated and we have been left out on a limb. Sheila and John

:04:19. > :04:22.Smith have lived in the same house for 56 years. They have both served

:04:23. > :04:32.as Lord Mayors of Manchester but say they feel let down by what has

:04:33. > :04:33.

:04:34. > :04:39.happened. We had such high hopes. All the trouble started here in

:04:39. > :04:48.this part of the town. We started with houses being burned, streets

:04:48. > :04:55.demolished. We had ministers they are looking around the area, we

:04:55. > :04:59.were granted this money to do it up, and we were riding on a highway of

:04:59. > :05:09.anticipation and then nothing. It was like a child coming down for

:05:09. > :05:10.

:05:10. > :05:15.Christmas Day and no presence. do you think you're area has not

:05:15. > :05:19.improved like other areas? I have no idea. I would have thought this

:05:19. > :05:23.was the area they would have started with. It must be difficult

:05:23. > :05:26.to see improvements all round here and nothing happens here? I cannot

:05:26. > :05:32.understand it at all. I cannot understand why they could not have

:05:32. > :05:36.had something spent on it, a facelift for the houses. Why has

:05:36. > :05:43.the eerie have been overlooked and so many promises unfulfilled? John

:05:43. > :05:47.Longsdon is the local councillor. The intentions were good. In 2005 a

:05:47. > :05:53.group was brought in to look at the prospects for the area. A developer

:05:53. > :05:59.was brought in. For one reason or another, it coincided with the time

:05:59. > :06:03.when money was getting tighter and money was spent in other parts.

:06:03. > :06:13.There is known to be resentment because there has been improvement

:06:13. > :06:15.

:06:16. > :06:25.in other areas. There is resentment. I feel that resentment. It had been

:06:26. > :06:27.

:06:27. > :06:37.put in to do the area up. There was a fresh plan in 2009 to refurbish

:06:37. > :06:52.

:06:53. > :06:56.the area, �9 million. Unfortunately, the money is just not there. As the

:06:56. > :06:59.area has declined, many have moved away. A lot of properties are now

:06:59. > :07:02.empty and boarded up. Others have been bought up by private landlords.

:07:02. > :07:04.Those who have lived here all their lives say it's destroyed the

:07:04. > :07:07.community spirit. But residents we have spoken to

:07:08. > :07:10.insist it does not have to be like this. Those who have lived here all

:07:10. > :07:13.their lives say it once had a strong sense of community,

:07:13. > :07:20.everybody knew each other and everybody came together in times of

:07:20. > :07:24.hardship and in times of celebration.

:07:24. > :07:27.It used to be very friendly and we all used to group together and get

:07:27. > :07:33.things done, like say for instance for the Jubilee, we had bands,

:07:33. > :07:40.street parties, men, women, children, altogether. All three of

:07:40. > :07:44.you have lived here for a long time, how has it changed? We have lost

:07:44. > :07:53.the community centre, we have lost St Vincent's Church. We have lost

:07:53. > :07:59.the school. We lost the library. Nowadays, the local hairdresser's

:07:59. > :08:05.is one of the few places residents get together. Hardly anybody speaks

:08:05. > :08:13.to one another. They stay indoors. Even the children do not play

:08:13. > :08:19.outside. You feel like you have been abandoned? Definitely.

:08:19. > :08:23.Promises of money, but nothing has materialised. I am sure it will be

:08:23. > :08:29.much better if everything look nice next to the background with the

:08:29. > :08:39.sports, than looking like it does. The city council will have to put

:08:39. > :08:44.

:08:44. > :08:47.It will just not fit in with the Manchester City Council says it is

:08:47. > :08:51.committed to improving the area but cuts in government funding have

:08:51. > :09:00.made it harder to do so. Why did you not use more of it in

:09:00. > :09:04.this era? It was and is still a priority. That is not the way

:09:04. > :09:11.people living there would see it. They look around and they see

:09:11. > :09:19.places elsewhere being be generated and they are not. The important

:09:19. > :09:22.thing to say is the availability of resources changed in 2007, and a

:09:22. > :09:31.number of neighbourhoods in east Manchester, Openshaw West been one

:09:31. > :09:34.of them, had an expectation and desire for change. That desire was

:09:34. > :09:44.not able to be delivered primarily because the resources were not

:09:44. > :09:46.

:09:46. > :09:51.going to be available be on 2011. - - beyond 2011. For now, once again

:09:51. > :09:55.it seems the best hope of investment in the area Woods beat

:09:55. > :09:58.the success of a multi-million- pound sport facility. This time,

:09:58. > :10:06.residents of Openshaw West hold their area finally reaps the

:10:06. > :10:10.benefits. Would you move because of the situation? If it gets any worse,

:10:10. > :10:13.you would be thinking of saying, I have high enough. We remain

:10:14. > :10:17.faithful to the area and hopefully our fate will be justified in some

:10:17. > :10:27.way or other. Not mainly for ourselves but for other people what

:10:27. > :10:37.to come and live here. Coming up: the idea of this show is to

:10:37. > :10:40.

:10:40. > :10:46.Going on a diet or joining in with a club is one of many resolutions

:10:46. > :10:51.you may have said. What if your new resolution was becoming your own

:10:51. > :11:01.boss? These are tough economic times, but we have met three people

:11:01. > :11:04.

:11:05. > :11:14.in the north-west who decided to go Economic crisis in the Eurozone,

:11:15. > :11:17.

:11:17. > :11:26.more of the same at home. So why on earth take the plunge and go it

:11:27. > :11:29.alone in business? Well, the most basic pro is the fact that most of

:11:29. > :11:32.the great businesses of history have been started in difficult

:11:32. > :11:35.times. And it means that if you survive in a recession, when growth

:11:35. > :11:38.occurs, and growth always occurs, actually you're in a really strong

:11:38. > :11:41.position so you've got good businesses. The con is that you

:11:41. > :11:44.have to be really tightly managed. You've got to know the market,

:11:44. > :11:47.you've got to manage the money and you've got to be really well

:11:47. > :11:50.focused. Business leaders in the North West believe more people need

:11:50. > :11:53.to move from the public into the private sector to boost the

:11:53. > :11:56.region's economy. We've taken three entrepreneurs who have recently set

:11:56. > :12:06.up their own businesses to see why they appear to be bucking the

:12:06. > :12:10.

:12:10. > :12:20.They say there's a recession on and people are watching what they spend,

:12:20. > :12:21.

:12:21. > :12:28.well there's no sign of that here today here in Wilmslow. The Comfit

:12:28. > :12:31.Ham, Lancashire Cheese. Neil Broomfield has turned a lifelong

:12:31. > :12:35.passion for food into a successful business. He has won national and

:12:35. > :12:38.North West food awards for his artisan pies. In fact, this pie-man

:12:38. > :12:43.used to be a PC. Before he left Greater Manchester Police last

:12:43. > :12:47.summer, Neil combined patrolling the beat with making pastry. Yeah,

:12:47. > :12:50.it was non-stop really for a couple of years. Working in the morning

:12:50. > :12:57.then going to work in the afternoon finishing night shifts, getting up

:12:57. > :13:00.early to come and do some cooking. It was hard work. It still is!

:13:00. > :13:03.Neil's move into business couldn't have happened without the

:13:03. > :13:06.generosity of family and friends. Not only does he use the kitchen

:13:06. > :13:13.above his Uncle's deli, but he also gets help cooking selling and

:13:13. > :13:16.delivering. All the research says that the businesses that are most

:13:16. > :13:19.likely to succeed are the ones that have a family background in

:13:19. > :13:22.business. It's one of the reasons why Asians are such successful

:13:22. > :13:25.entrepreneurs, because their families support them. It's the

:13:25. > :13:28.reason why when you look around, not just in specialty markets like

:13:28. > :13:31.the food industry, you see those businesses that can rely on the

:13:31. > :13:34.expertise rely on the knowledge rely on the networks that the

:13:34. > :13:37.members of their family are willing and able to provide, that's why I

:13:37. > :13:44.suspect he's relied on them a lot and they're getting a return

:13:44. > :13:51.because they are seeing him succeed. Did you ever question yourself

:13:51. > :13:54.setting up a business in the current economic climate? I'd been

:13:54. > :13:58.selling at the farmer's markets for a couple of years, and I had never

:13:58. > :14:01.really seen a change in those so, in a way, I'd done that research

:14:01. > :14:05.and I knew that they were quite steady, and I knew there were

:14:05. > :14:12.potential customers out there. Winning the awards was another

:14:12. > :14:16.thing. People were contacting me to supply them so I knew that there

:14:16. > :14:22.was a market there. At the moment, just to concentrate on keeping all

:14:22. > :14:24.the overheads down, I know there could be a hard year coming ahead.

:14:24. > :14:27.The fastest growing group of unemployed and those least likely

:14:27. > :14:30.to get another job are the over 50s and it can be particularly

:14:30. > :14:34.difficult in rural areas." Fortunately, the man we feature

:14:34. > :14:37.next is a glass, or should that be cup half full, kind of person. He

:14:37. > :14:42.lost his job after relocating to Lancashire and feared he was left

:14:42. > :14:46.on the scrapheap. I really did because I saw so many other people

:14:46. > :14:52.like myself that just didn't get jobs. They always employ the

:14:52. > :14:56.younger people. You need to be 25, 35 type of person, and that's the

:14:56. > :15:01.type of person that gets the job. Yeah, very hard. Mark Woodward

:15:01. > :15:08.worked in the paper cup industry. So he decided to stick with what he

:15:08. > :15:12.knew best and go it alone. ambition would be to start

:15:12. > :15:15.manufacturing paper cups within the UK so we can 1,000 cups in two to

:15:15. > :15:19.three days. Full colour process and there is a huge demand out there

:15:19. > :15:21.for people who have got exhibitions on or if they want to have some

:15:21. > :15:25.branded paper cups for a particular presentation. Mark's brave decision

:15:25. > :15:30.to set out on his own when others of his age might have been eyeing

:15:30. > :15:34.the golf course could make sound business sense. We now know that

:15:34. > :15:37.people who start up over the age of 50 have something like three or

:15:37. > :15:43.four times the survival rates than businesses that are started by

:15:43. > :15:45.people under the age of 35. You can understand why. They have got

:15:45. > :15:49.experience, they have probably got cars they are more mobile. They

:15:49. > :15:52.have probably got a bit of money in the bank, they have other assets

:15:52. > :15:55.but they've basically got good work disciplines. Therefore it is a good

:15:55. > :15:58.decision for him, and I'm hoping he breaks through the �1m turnover

:15:58. > :16:06.then the �10m turnover, and employs significant numbers of people. But

:16:06. > :16:09.it is also a good decision for the community. There are a lot of us

:16:09. > :16:12.out there that are over 50 that have been made redundant. Just sit

:16:12. > :16:16.down specifically with your partner and start working out a plan for

:16:16. > :16:19.life and work out how you are going to overcome it and it's only a

:16:19. > :16:29.matter of making a plan. According to new research, women are the new

:16:29. > :16:30.

:16:30. > :16:34.entrepreneurs and they are the most Fed up working as a hotel

:16:34. > :16:37.receptionist, Kate May retrained as an upholsterer. She hit on the idea

:16:37. > :16:41.of making bespoke pet furniture and refused to be put off by the

:16:41. > :16:44.reaction of so called business experts she pitched the idea to.

:16:44. > :16:47.Well, basically, they just laughed at me and didn't think my idea

:16:47. > :16:55.would work because they didn't think there was a market for high

:16:55. > :16:59.class furniture for pets. So really that gave me the incentive to prove

:16:59. > :17:02.them wrong and that's how I've got to where I am now. I think it's a

:17:02. > :17:09.fantastic idea. It's really unusual and I hope you are very successful

:17:10. > :17:12.with it. Thank you very much. has certainly had the last laugh.

:17:12. > :17:19.She sells her furniture made with all British materials from workshop

:17:20. > :17:23.near Clitheroe and at country and game fairs. It's a remarkably

:17:23. > :17:25.stable industry, the pet products industry, and therefore she is in a

:17:25. > :17:28.stable industry. It is also an industry where when people are

:17:28. > :17:31.looking for care and attention, which during difficult times there

:17:31. > :17:33.are, they are willing to lavish care and attention on the creature

:17:33. > :17:38.that probably gives them more gratitude and care and attention

:17:38. > :17:41.than anyone else. Which is his or her pet! I love doing what I'm

:17:41. > :17:45.doing and I'm my own boss. Although I work harder now and work longer

:17:45. > :17:51.hours than I did in the hotel industry. I'd never give it up, no,

:17:51. > :17:54.I just love it, I love it. It's a New Year and the only resolution

:17:54. > :17:59.for any company is survival. But our business expert reckons all

:17:59. > :18:04.three entrepreneurs have more than a fighting chance of success.

:18:04. > :18:06.overall feeling is very positive. They also seem very well founded.

:18:06. > :18:09.The pie-man basically is using quality materials and learning from

:18:09. > :18:13.the market and learning from his family. The paper cups man, he has

:18:13. > :18:16.decided that he is actually going to look at new markets, the bespoke

:18:16. > :18:23.market for example. And the pet furniture manufacturer, she

:18:23. > :18:26.basically has started small, she is getting to know her customers. She

:18:26. > :18:30.makes to a very high standard and quality counts in this environment.

:18:30. > :18:39.So all three of them have assets and of course they all three

:18:39. > :18:42.represent things that are really important to the region.

:18:42. > :18:48.For over 50 years, the Lovell Telescope here at Jodrell Bank has

:18:48. > :18:51.been a familiar feature of the Cheshire landscape. So it is

:18:51. > :18:53.perhaps no surprise that BBC2 have chosen, once again, to turn the

:18:53. > :18:56.observatory into a television studio to host this year's

:18:56. > :18:59.Stargazing Live. Jacey Normand has spent the week doing her own star

:19:00. > :19:09.gazing, with help from some of the shows own stars and of course, with

:19:10. > :19:11.

:19:11. > :19:18.access all areas to the greatest observatory town.

:19:18. > :19:23.It is the final countdown and the rehearsals are stepping up apace.

:19:23. > :19:33.The programme it comes alive and it gives viewers an insight into the

:19:33. > :19:37.world of astronomy. I am Brian Cox. But this is star-gazing live.

:19:37. > :19:47.on, I am hoping I will get the chance to Dr some of their show's

:19:47. > :19:47.

:19:47. > :19:53.stars. But I have all ready met the other star, the telescope. And it

:19:53. > :19:58.is one of the largest in the world and is Grade 1 listed. This radio

:19:58. > :20:01.telescope measure 76 metres across and weighs over 3,500 tonnes. It is

:20:01. > :20:06.then used every day of the year, receiving radio waves from the

:20:06. > :20:09.furthest reaches of space. The radio waves strike the surface of

:20:09. > :20:12.this bowl which reflects them up there to the Focus Tower from where

:20:12. > :20:22.the signals are gathered and transmitted for analysis back down

:20:22. > :20:30.

:20:30. > :20:35.to the observatory. Some of the obits we have been looking at, the

:20:35. > :20:40.radiation has been travelling for billions of years. It gives us a

:20:40. > :20:43.view of the invisible universe. As we stand here now, that a giant

:20:43. > :20:47.bowl of flowers is actually picking up radio waves coming from over

:20:47. > :20:53.there in outer space, collecting them together and then we analyse

:20:53. > :20:57.them and look at these invisible object in the sky. A lot of the

:20:57. > :21:05.analysis is carried out in the observatory. I got an exclusive

:21:05. > :21:13.tour. This is the control room. It is the heart of her observations.

:21:13. > :21:23.It is from here that we control all of her role to -- telescopes. This

:21:23. > :21:27.room is actually manned 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. We must star-

:21:27. > :21:31.gazing wife is on air, the telescope will continue to listen

:21:31. > :21:40.to outer space. It will talk to a group of telescopes across central

:21:40. > :21:45.England. This feels like a secret room. What goes on in here? This is

:21:45. > :21:47.the supercomputer. It brings together all the signals. When the

:21:48. > :21:52.whole network is operating, there is more information arriving here

:21:52. > :21:57.all the time than there is under rest of the rest of -- the rest of

:21:57. > :22:01.the UK internet combined. Why is a doll in a big metal case. It is

:22:01. > :22:08.because this computer would produce radio waves that would drown out

:22:08. > :22:15.the signal that we are picking up. It depicted in a box that this, you

:22:15. > :22:20.blocked the radio waves. -- a box like this. This Racal Electronics

:22:20. > :22:24.here is where we record the signals from the telescopes in this country

:22:24. > :22:28.and all across the world, but there are people who could be doing

:22:28. > :22:32.similar things, looking at the same optic at the same time. The record

:22:32. > :22:37.signals and then beat AC we combine the whole thing together and you

:22:37. > :22:41.can make a telescope the size of the planet. This gives us as him

:22:41. > :22:44.lens effect. The further party spread your telescope, the more is

:22:44. > :22:49.in the new get on the things in space. When the make-up one the

:22:49. > :22:53.size of a planet, they are the most detailed feedback you can get.

:22:54. > :22:57.Images of black holes, quasars and pulsars from galaxies billions of

:22:57. > :23:01.light years away our ground- breaking, as Professor Brian Cox

:23:01. > :23:07.told me. A lot of the great discoveries that we will talk about

:23:07. > :23:11.our need here. I think also, I am just looking at it now, over your

:23:11. > :23:16.head, I think what it is is a symbol of the fact that we're still

:23:17. > :23:21.leading in astronomy and signs in their general in Britain. So he can

:23:21. > :23:27.be near mortals get involved? is what astronomy is societies are

:23:27. > :23:31.around four. One of the things that star-gazing does it really well is

:23:32. > :23:35.that we bring them in. The idea of this show for me is to stimulate

:23:35. > :23:39.that interest, or remind people that they are interested in the

:23:40. > :23:45.night sky. There will be an astronomy Society five or ten

:23:45. > :23:49.minutes from your house, wherever you live. The Liverpool Society is

:23:49. > :23:54.one of the oldest in the country. Every month, they take their

:23:54. > :23:58.telescopes into the city centre and invite the public to take a look.

:23:58. > :24:03.The fortnight, I thought a star map with something that you wandered

:24:03. > :24:09.around Los Angeles with. weather was against us. The people

:24:09. > :24:13.seem to be genuinely interested, however. There is always something

:24:13. > :24:16.new to look at. The planets are always changing. For example,

:24:17. > :24:21.Jupiter rotates once every ten hours and its cloud systems are

:24:21. > :24:27.always changing with in those ten hours. There is always something

:24:27. > :24:31.new to discover and see. I got a quick glance at a gym but there but

:24:31. > :24:34.it was hazy, obscured by cloud and the lights of the city centre.

:24:35. > :24:38.Light pollution is produced by artificial light that this could

:24:38. > :24:43.look down onto the ground where it is needed the most for safety and

:24:43. > :24:49.security, it goes straight up into the sky. Many of the objects that

:24:49. > :24:54.we try to see, like the galaxies, the light has travelled for

:24:54. > :24:59.billions of years, but it is obscured by the light from the

:24:59. > :25:07.artificial objects. The Liverpool Society has an observatory where

:25:07. > :25:17.the meat to what and discuss the solar system. - like where they

:25:17. > :25:20.

:25:20. > :25:26.meet to discuss the solar system we tried to be the first and register

:25:26. > :25:30.her information worldwide so that other astronomers can look at

:25:30. > :25:36.supernovas and address it. Most astronomical societies recognise

:25:36. > :25:41.the importance of sharing information and of passing on their

:25:41. > :25:43.knowledge to the next generation. thought Mars would be bigger.

:25:43. > :25:53.Macclesfield society hold regular sessions for budding young

:25:53. > :25:54.

:25:54. > :25:59.stargazers. it is a beautiful laboratory up there will, with big,

:25:59. > :26:03.exploding things. It is a great way of making signs come to life. If

:26:04. > :26:08.you ask someone how far they can see, and explain to them that they

:26:08. > :26:13.can see 2 million light years away. There are so many mind-boggling

:26:13. > :26:18.concepts involved. Some of those concepts are explained in a red hot

:26:18. > :26:21.detail. This is the Discovery Centre here. It is the public part

:26:21. > :26:30.of the side were people can come and find out about the size that we

:26:30. > :26:34.do here. They can find it also a bit broader astronomy. -- they can

:26:34. > :26:37.also find out about broader astronomy. What we're illustrating

:26:37. > :26:42.here is that there is different information that you can find out

:26:42. > :26:47.about it the universe and the world around us with invisible light.

:26:47. > :26:50.There is lots of other stuff here as well. There is a model black

:26:50. > :26:55.cold there which shows people how things spiralling and disappear

:26:55. > :27:02.into a black hole. You can listen to the sounds of pulsars as well.

:27:02. > :27:06.We're hoping that they will be inspired by the sort of information.

:27:06. > :27:16.Perhaps they will go on to become the scientists and engineers of the

:27:16. > :27:19.

:27:19. > :27:24.future. I just think that there is a new appreciation, or a return

:27:24. > :27:29.depreciation to this kind of scientific stuff. The take-up of

:27:29. > :27:36.physics courses has gone up 17%. This is remarkably easy to get

:27:36. > :27:41.involved in. It is there, outside and all you have to do is look up.

:27:41. > :27:44.Would you say astronomy is the new rock and roll? It should be. It

:27:44. > :27:48.because studying the universe is the most interesting thing you can

:27:48. > :27:55.do. If it is not, then I want to know why, because I think it is

:27:56. > :28:00.more interesting than in music. If I could have a discovery, it would

:28:00. > :28:06.be to detect a civil -- a signal from an alien civilisation alive on

:28:06. > :28:09.the. That would be brilliant. have loved my astronomy experience

:28:09. > :28:15.and I for one will definitely be doing a little more star-gazing

:28:15. > :28:20.tonight. You can catch that on BBC Two at in

:28:20. > :28:24.half-an-hour. That is all from me. You can watch on the eye player. I

:28:24. > :28:30.am back next Monday at 7:30pm. Until then, have a good week.

:28:30. > :28:34.Goodbye. Next week, the signs and people