30/01/2012

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0:00:00 > 0:00:03Howell, tonight we're in Manchester's northern quarter were

0:00:03 > 0:00:10well and introducing a singer who is doing things her own way.

0:00:10 > 0:00:14On tonight's programme: it has dominated front pages for months in

0:00:14 > 0:00:19the region, but can we ever keep races and out of football?

0:00:19 > 0:00:25It happens everywhere. It is a reflection of society.

0:00:25 > 0:00:28Cases, when she police use them and just how safe are they. I felt a

0:00:28 > 0:00:38little bit light-headed were now is doing some warm-up work and I

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0:00:39 > 0:00:43remember waking up in intensive And why am Manchester singer has

0:00:43 > 0:00:48turned down a big recording contract to go it alone. We have

0:00:48 > 0:00:51done everything. We have gone from hand to making the singles, to

0:00:51 > 0:01:01making the website, to setting up her own label and publishing

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0:01:12 > 0:01:15The building behind be in here in Manchester will sooner reopen as

0:01:15 > 0:01:19the National Football Museum, celebrating all that is great in

0:01:19 > 0:01:23the game and giving the North West's footballing prowess it's

0:01:23 > 0:01:27fitting location. But two of the region's more successful teams have

0:01:27 > 0:01:31recently been at the forefront of controversy over races and in

0:01:31 > 0:01:37football, something that threatens to turn the beautiful game into

0:01:37 > 0:01:39something more ugly. Last October, two of the North

0:01:39 > 0:01:42West's biggest football clubs, Liverpool and Manchester United,

0:01:42 > 0:01:49squared up for their annual fixture at Anfield. The game was marred by

0:01:49 > 0:01:52a racist incident involving Luis Suarez and Patrice Evra. What

0:01:52 > 0:01:57happened in that game has sent shock waves around the country and

0:01:57 > 0:02:02the world. Patrice Evra of United accused Luis Suarez of Liverpool of

0:02:02 > 0:02:12racially abusing him during the game. Suarez was found guilty by an

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0:02:17 > 0:02:19independent FA inquiry and banned for eight games and fined �40K.

0:02:19 > 0:02:22At the weekend, Liverpool again, played Manchester United, in the FA

0:02:22 > 0:02:26cup, and this case has reignited the racism debate in football and

0:02:26 > 0:02:33forces us to ask if the game really has moved on from the ugly scenes

0:02:33 > 0:02:37we saw in the 70s and 80s? The get a historical perspective on races

0:02:37 > 0:02:42and in football, I spoke to Rogan Taylor of the University of

0:02:42 > 0:02:48Liverpool. I think it is important for people who were perhaps not a

0:02:48 > 0:02:52live 25 years ago and for those who have forgotten just how bad it was,

0:02:52 > 0:02:58how commonplace the insults were for black people in particular.

0:02:58 > 0:03:01Graffiti on walls, chants at football grounds, John Barnes

0:03:01 > 0:03:10having an Anna thrown at him while he was taking a corner, which he

0:03:10 > 0:03:19back-heeled away. It is hard for people to recall our imagine what

0:03:19 > 0:03:24it was like. The National Front was making her first of a series of

0:03:24 > 0:03:27controversial matches, most of which ended in clashes with anti-

0:03:27 > 0:03:36raises some demonstrators. someone who has never been subject

0:03:36 > 0:03:40to racial prejudice, hatred or insults, and that is most people in

0:03:40 > 0:03:45this country, it is all most important -- impossible to know how

0:03:45 > 0:03:55bad it can be to be insulted on those grounds. To understand how

0:03:55 > 0:04:05painful it can be. I think we have to be extraordinarily careful in

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0:04:09 > 0:04:12the way that bespeaks to people of further races and other collars.

0:04:12 > 0:04:16Once such player was Liverpool legend, John Barnes. He played for

0:04:16 > 0:04:20Liverpool in the 80s and 90s. happens everywhere. It is a

0:04:20 > 0:04:25reflection of society. Just because it is not reported does not mean it

0:04:26 > 0:04:30does not exist. The races and that I am interested in his everyday

0:04:30 > 0:04:35races and, were by people walking on the street, going into shops,

0:04:35 > 0:04:39races and you cannot prove. Silent, unconscious races and that happens

0:04:39 > 0:04:42all over. That is the races and we have to get rid of. It is fine to

0:04:42 > 0:04:52highlight this particular incident and say that as long as we come

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0:04:54 > 0:05:02down hard on/s, pat ourselves on the back, it is everywhere. --

0:05:02 > 0:05:07Suarez. Back then, you were told to get on with it and that you had a

0:05:07 > 0:05:13chip on your shoulder if you complain. Our clubs doing anything

0:05:13 > 0:05:23to combat Greece is an? The very fact that Patrick Shearer is at

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0:05:27 > 0:05:35Manchester City, or the best players are black, but it today

0:05:35 > 0:05:42consider them to be equal? So what responsibilities to the players

0:05:42 > 0:05:52have? As an industry, football being our national game, we want to

0:05:52 > 0:05:55set the benchmark, beat the leaders in the at is of total inclusion and

0:05:55 > 0:05:59making sure that every section of society feels that they can be part

0:05:59 > 0:06:04of our national game and that they are involved in our national game

0:06:04 > 0:06:08and they are welcome. Is there a case where ignorance -- ignorance

0:06:09 > 0:06:12can ever be used as an excuse? player comes from a culture were

0:06:12 > 0:06:22certain language that is used is deemed acceptable, or is

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0:06:22 > 0:06:28commonplace, then you can understand the or using of that --

0:06:28 > 0:06:31that they use that, but our levels of using this is not the same, so

0:06:32 > 0:06:35we need to make sure that players coming from different cultures are

0:06:35 > 0:06:45aware of the standards and levels of acceptable behaviour and

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0:06:45 > 0:06:53language that are in use within our Have you ever had anything said to

0:06:53 > 0:06:57you, or have you heard anything? have heard racial abuse, I have

0:06:57 > 0:07:02heard of other players who have been either racially abused by fans

0:07:02 > 0:07:05or by other players. It is very easy to get complacent and we have

0:07:06 > 0:07:11been diversifying a lot of her attention on to homophobia, Islam

0:07:11 > 0:07:21for beer, sexism and all areas of discrimination and I think that a

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0:07:24 > 0:07:29lot of people thought that actual races some -- ante raised his arm

0:07:29 > 0:07:32was resolved. We are broadening hour spectrum into all forms of

0:07:32 > 0:07:39discrimination because speed feel that none of it should exist within

0:07:39 > 0:07:44our society and most definitely not with inner game. -- with in Our

0:07:44 > 0:07:54Game. Fortunately, there are organisations helping to make this

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0:07:55 > 0:08:02happen. These guys and girls are learning without someone saying, do

0:08:02 > 0:08:05this or do that. They are mixing with other groups, other

0:08:05 > 0:08:10nationalities and because of that, they are learning about each other,

0:08:10 > 0:08:16learning how to interact with each other and people from different

0:08:16 > 0:08:20communities. That is important. Would you say that races and was on

0:08:20 > 0:08:26the increase or at that this recent story has put it back on the

0:08:26 > 0:08:32agenda? But does not get stuck on one incident or a few incidents,

0:08:32 > 0:08:41yes, they are happening, but we have come a long way. Ultimately,

0:08:41 > 0:08:47we just want to play football. There is a lack of Asian players in

0:08:47 > 0:08:53the game and we need to work around that. We need to get these groups

0:08:53 > 0:08:58involved in the game so that they can develop and move forward.

0:08:58 > 0:09:06kids grown up, p 8 a black, white, Chinese or Indian, the her growing

0:09:06 > 0:09:16up in a common country. On the through education can get through -

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0:09:20 > 0:09:26- rid of races and. -- races them. -- racism. Everybody is equal, you

0:09:26 > 0:09:36should not treat anybody any different. You have to have the

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0:09:37 > 0:09:43right attitude, you cannot make any bad comments. It is not just about

0:09:43 > 0:09:50scoring goals, it is about sportsmanship and how good you are

0:09:50 > 0:09:53at treating people. When you get face-to-face contact and

0:09:53 > 0:09:57communication with someone of a different culture or have a

0:09:57 > 0:10:01different faith, that is when you are really learning about how

0:10:01 > 0:10:08people think and that is when you come to realise that we are just

0:10:08 > 0:10:12human beings, one to another. weekend, least one of his returns

0:10:12 > 0:10:17after his eight-match ban. In his absence, races and has dominated

0:10:17 > 0:10:20the back pages. What is clear is that the system is still a part of

0:10:20 > 0:10:24British football, but with campaigns like this one, by the

0:10:24 > 0:10:28time these players reach the Premiership, it will become a thing

0:10:28 > 0:10:38of the past. Yes, because you do you want to be racist everywhere

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0:10:49 > 0:10:56you go. You just need to have like Coming up: forget arenas, will be

0:10:56 > 0:11:01uncovered the secret concerts in surprising venues around the region.

0:11:01 > 0:11:07Not your ordinary drink, so it has been an event in itself. --

0:11:07 > 0:11:10performance. Teaser guns have become a crucial

0:11:10 > 0:11:20part of the Arsenal defence of police forces around the region.

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0:11:25 > 0:11:35They are used is on the increase. - - taser guns. A recent case has

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0:11:44 > 0:11:47highlighted the controversy over these controversial weapons.

0:11:47 > 0:11:50Walk out the door. Show me your hands. Come to the door, mate.

0:11:51 > 0:11:53Taser! Taser! To officers, it's the crime

0:11:54 > 0:11:58fighting tool of choice. But to the public, tasers are controversial, a

0:11:58 > 0:12:02police weapon with deadly potential. Hold the Taser X26 and the first

0:12:02 > 0:12:10thing that strikes you is its tiny dimensions and light weight. It

0:12:10 > 0:12:14feels and looks almost like a child's toy. Attach a cartridhe and

0:12:14 > 0:12:19this device assumes its true potential.

0:12:19 > 0:12:23In the session, the full force of the shot is put to the test. It is

0:12:23 > 0:12:33the most powerful weapon in the hands of an on a firearms officer

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0:12:41 > 0:12:48Witnesses said that this man bit old punched paramedics has he was

0:12:48 > 0:12:53treated. I remember waking up in intensive care. From what I can

0:12:53 > 0:12:57remember about the incident, police have come over and taken over and

0:12:57 > 0:13:03medical situation. They referred in their report about violence but I

0:13:03 > 0:13:08was just having a seizure. He spent two weeks in intensive care with

0:13:08 > 0:13:14for kidney failure following the incident although this was thought

0:13:14 > 0:13:19to be caused by a fearless and not the police actions. The case was

0:13:19 > 0:13:23investigated by the Independent Police Complaints Commission which

0:13:23 > 0:13:31concluded that the officers acted within the training and did not

0:13:31 > 0:13:36breach force policies but it called for a review of the use of the

0:13:36 > 0:13:43Taser of people you had and medical condition. It has knocked my

0:13:43 > 0:13:47confidence. In case I have another seizure and I do not wake up.

0:13:47 > 0:13:57Greater Manchester Police said that officers acted within the guidance

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0:14:07 > 0:14:17By the police can Taser anyone at any time in life threatening

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0:14:24 > 0:14:27scenarios, but some believe that officers are abusing these powers.

0:14:27 > 0:14:30Sophie Khan is a solicitor who specialises in human rights. But

0:14:30 > 0:14:33recently her work has been dominated by claims that the police

0:14:33 > 0:14:36are misusing Tasers. There are some circumstances where the Taser can

0:14:36 > 0:14:45be used, but the ones I'm dealing with, they've been inappropriate

0:14:45 > 0:14:51uses. Confronted with dangerous situations, officers are expected

0:14:51 > 0:14:57to make split-second decisions. They is a particular rapport danger

0:14:57 > 0:15:01to people with mental conditions, young children, lots of conditions.

0:15:01 > 0:15:05They have to identify when and where to use the Taser and not to

0:15:05 > 0:15:10do a knee-jerk reaction and just deploy the Taser in any

0:15:10 > 0:15:14circumstance, which is what is happening at the moment. In America,

0:15:14 > 0:15:19the Taser has been cited as a country Beattie factor in the

0:15:19 > 0:15:24deaths of more than 300 people according to Amnesty International.

0:15:24 > 0:15:34So before being allowed out onto the street with a stun guns, every

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0:15:40 > 0:15:43officer receives 18 hours of training. With regard to how they

0:15:43 > 0:15:51breed people, what we have to look at is what is that person doing at

0:15:51 > 0:15:57that particular time. On the front line, officers have a variety of

0:15:57 > 0:16:02weapons at hand. Occasionally they deployed the Taser alongside CS

0:16:02 > 0:16:08spray. Our research has shown that when they are used together there

0:16:08 > 0:16:13is sometimes a risk. We set up a experiment to see how dangerous it

0:16:13 > 0:16:18is. The shield has been set up with the same cottage as a standard

0:16:18 > 0:16:24police Taser. When it is dowsed with CS spray, this is the result.

0:16:24 > 0:16:27In a leaked document we have discovered that last year seven

0:16:27 > 0:16:32incidents where referred to the Independent Police Complaints

0:16:32 > 0:16:38Commission. In each, CS spray and the Taser had been used together.

0:16:38 > 0:16:43In three of those cases, members of the public suffered burns. Almost

0:16:43 > 0:16:50simultaneously, someone sprayed someone and another officer thought

0:16:50 > 0:16:54there was a bigger threat and used the Taser. Once the spot takes

0:16:54 > 0:16:58place, Dolphin burns. It is almost like tipping brandy on a Christmas

0:16:59 > 0:17:01pudding. The Association of Chief Police Officers says it is aware of

0:17:01 > 0:17:10the issue and that there is training guidance for officers

0:17:10 > 0:17:17about the potential flammability Winnie using the Taser. Eran Bauer

0:17:17 > 0:17:22is the head of a company which provides an gives training for the

0:17:22 > 0:17:27tolls. He has spent the last decade trying to educate about the risks.

0:17:27 > 0:17:32We have done a lot of research looking into a non-flammable spray

0:17:33 > 0:17:42that would be safe to use with the Taser. This man led the

0:17:42 > 0:17:46introduction of the bomb Fred into the UK -- of the Taser. It is a

0:17:46 > 0:17:51real risk and it is not acceptable. It is just not right that someone

0:17:51 > 0:17:56gets burnt as the use of police force. How acceptable is it that

0:17:56 > 0:17:59some police forces are still using CS spray? As they introduce Taser

0:17:59 > 0:18:08more generally, they should be going back and be considering all

0:18:08 > 0:18:14the risks. This is a real one, but CS spray plus the Taser=inflammable

0:18:14 > 0:18:21material. But despite concerns, they have become vital tackles in

0:18:21 > 0:18:25the armoury of the police. Statistically, on 90% of occasions

0:18:25 > 0:18:29the mere presence of the Taser is enough to make people think about

0:18:29 > 0:18:34what they are doing or what they are about to do. We clearly

0:18:34 > 0:18:37appreciate that as a distance control weapon against a very

0:18:38 > 0:18:42violent people in life-threatening situations, Taser is more

0:18:42 > 0:18:47preferable than a firearm and has a role to play in policing, but we do

0:18:47 > 0:18:54not want to see electronic cheque weaponry rolled out to every single

0:18:54 > 0:19:03officer. In Britain, the IPCC is currently investigating 133 out of

0:19:03 > 0:19:0686 complaints from individuals shot by police with the Taser. They

0:19:06 > 0:19:10include a taxi driver who died after becoming embroiled in a

0:19:10 > 0:19:20physical confrontation with police. Although the Taser was found not to

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0:19:23 > 0:19:27be the cause of death, the IPCC are Most musicians signed to a major

0:19:27 > 0:19:32record label in the Twenties would think they had made it. But Kirsty

0:19:32 > 0:19:37Almeida is not most musicians. She left her record company to ensure

0:19:37 > 0:19:47she had total control over her own work, including designing her own

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0:19:54 > 0:20:04album covers. Andy Johnson has been to meet her.

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0:20:15 > 0:20:20Number signed I used to be a fault. A year ago, Kirsty Almeida had

0:20:20 > 0:20:30signed a major recording deal and was about to release her depute

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0:20:35 > 0:20:39single and album. But Kirsty made one of those life-changing

0:20:39 > 0:20:44decisions, packed her bags, walked away and said goodbye to the circus

0:20:44 > 0:20:48of the corporate music industry. Now she has transformed her of

0:20:48 > 0:20:54world. She runs her own record label and deeper makes the

0:20:54 > 0:21:04individual record sleeves. She uses social networks size to sell her

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0:21:04 > 0:21:10records and artwork around the world. I want to make a life and a

0:21:10 > 0:21:15living out of music and being creative. I think that is the

0:21:15 > 0:21:21sustainability that I can achieve. Iping that is possible for anyone.

0:21:21 > 0:21:25I don't think that in this current climate that Unita had a major

0:21:25 > 0:21:30label. I think the days of have been beset so circle of people that

0:21:30 > 0:21:40are in control of it, I think they themselves know that those days are

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0:21:42 > 0:21:46gone. Kirsty sees herself at the forefront of a new revolution

0:21:46 > 0:21:54sweeping through the music industry that is light years away from the

0:21:54 > 0:21:59world of the X factor. Had come from what I think is a new wave of

0:22:00 > 0:22:03artists who need to be able to be part of everything that is going on

0:22:03 > 0:22:09and help within the crater decisions within the business area

0:22:09 > 0:22:14as well. I think you can be a creative business person. Part of

0:22:14 > 0:22:19the new way of working is inviting fans on Facebook to small intimate

0:22:19 > 0:22:24kicks. Tonight's performance is in a converted ballroom in north

0:22:24 > 0:22:29Manchester. Some funds have troubled a long way. I have come

0:22:29 > 0:22:38from Canterbury. I have been following her on Facebook for the

0:22:38 > 0:22:43past year. I first discovered her on BBC Radio six, I heard this song

0:22:43 > 0:22:47Spider and had been following her since then. I like to create

0:22:47 > 0:22:50experiences for people, especially because the internet is so

0:22:50 > 0:22:55saturated with music and opportunities, and everybody can

0:22:55 > 0:22:59have anything that they want, so you cannot always have my kind of

0:22:59 > 0:23:06events. I like to treat expenses that are definitely filled with

0:23:06 > 0:23:10magic. I like to take people out of their comfort zone and get people

0:23:10 > 0:23:15to dress up and turn up with passwords and create an event that

0:23:15 > 0:23:18takes them out of their own world. Then they get put back in the

0:23:18 > 0:23:24carriage and sent off again. For one night any, they were filled

0:23:24 > 0:23:29with magic. To give up the security that and major record deal would

0:23:29 > 0:23:33offer might seem like Korea suicide but Kirsty now has complete control

0:23:33 > 0:23:39over her music. By using the internet and social networking she

0:23:39 > 0:23:48also gets immediate feedback on her songs a project. You have a direct

0:23:48 > 0:23:51contact with your audience. When I have been really busy, and a photo

0:23:51 > 0:23:56shoot has come back and I have a choice of 10 photographs, and I

0:23:56 > 0:24:02cannot work out which want to use, I will put them up on Facebook and

0:24:02 > 0:24:12ask which one. The answers come back within five minutes. I can ask

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0:24:25 > 0:24:31questions of my audience. Kirsty was born in Gibraltar and moved to

0:24:31 > 0:24:41Manchester 13 years ago. She works with her band, The Troubadours, and

0:24:41 > 0:24:51they had just reduced a new album, Winter Songs. She has released a

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0:24:57 > 0:25:03new film starring one of the actors from Downton Abbey. It was amazing,

0:25:03 > 0:25:08especially to see my songs on film. I'm sure that must be anyone's

0:25:08 > 0:25:18dream, but he was dead than the one of mine. It is really exciting and

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0:25:22 > 0:25:26to see it huge in the cinema was mind-blowing. For Kirsty, small is

0:25:26 > 0:25:31now a beautiful and attention to detail is everything, including

0:25:31 > 0:25:37working overtime on the sewing machine. It is a lot of work, why

0:25:37 > 0:25:41do it? I love it. It is a lot of work if you think of it as work but

0:25:41 > 0:25:51I anything can that the actual one that I am making so I never think

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0:25:53 > 0:25:59that I'm making 200, a just think I am making one. When we do the ones

0:25:59 > 0:26:09that go to press, I need help, because it is a grand scale. But

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0:26:17 > 0:26:22each limited edition is a piece of art. The audience for tonight's

0:26:22 > 0:26:25performance had no idea what or where the concert would be. They

0:26:25 > 0:26:31were asked to wear Victorian costume and were met at a

0:26:31 > 0:26:41Manchester bar and then escorted to the ballroom. In use have become

0:26:41 > 0:26:41

0:26:41 > 0:26:47there is a regime to them. We play at this time, you get out by this

0:26:47 > 0:26:56time, the audience come in this way and be that way. I like the

0:26:56 > 0:27:01experience more, it is about the magical event. It is not your

0:27:01 > 0:27:06ordinary kick, so it has been an event in itself. We did not know

0:27:06 > 0:27:13where we were going, for example! Would you run it for you if he did

0:27:13 > 0:27:20become absolute be huge? How do I know? If it when be, I do not think

0:27:20 > 0:27:25I would to ring us. I would try to turn beautiful derelict buildings

0:27:25 > 0:27:29into venues. But it does not have to be the end Rina way, you can

0:27:29 > 0:27:33still entertain a lot of people and do great things by using your

0:27:33 > 0:27:37imagination. Somebody pointed out today there one of the reasons we

0:27:37 > 0:27:41should be proud of what we are doing it that we have done

0:27:41 > 0:27:47everything. We have come from hand making the singles to making our

0:27:47 > 0:27:51own website and setting up her own label and publishing company.

0:27:51 > 0:27:56you protect your way of working can become a blueprint for others?

0:27:56 > 0:27:59Definitely. I think it is could be the modern way. But I think the

0:27:59 > 0:28:09biggest blue print is start something, come up with the

0:28:09 > 0:28:16

0:28:16 > 0:28:24creative idea, started and finished yet. -- start it and finished it.

0:28:24 > 0:28:33That is all from me for this week. I am back next Monday night at