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:00:00. > :00:06.Hello and welcome to Inside Out North West. Today we're in Alderley

:00:06. > :00:11.Edge, where we'll be discovering a time when local pubs were closed for

:00:11. > :00:21.Tonight, 40 years on, we remember the tragedy of Summerland on the

:00:21. > :00:23.Isle of Man. Everybody knows about Zeebrugge, they know about all the

:00:23. > :00:28.other major disasters — but not Zeebrugge, they know about all the

:00:28. > :00:32.Summerland and the Isle of Man. After this weekend's Super League

:00:32. > :00:38.final, we reveal how rugby is taking on a different kind of battle. We

:00:38. > :00:47.aggressive game and it's almost taboo to feel any weakness both

:00:47. > :00:51.And we search for the last resting place of Britain's first Muslim

:00:51. > :01:21.Summerland, a holiday haven on the Isle of Man where the sun always

:01:21. > :01:26.shone. But in August 1973, it became a vision of hell. The whole complex

:01:26. > :01:32.destroyed by fire, in a matter of minutes. 50 people lost their lives.

:01:32. > :01:37.BBC Radio Lancashire Sally Naden, who was then a dancer, was one of

:01:37. > :01:39.the lucky ones who survived. 40 years on, she's been back to the

:01:39. > :02:06.island to tell the tragic story Horrible sight to see. I heard

:02:06. > :02:18.people screaming. I ran upstairs. People were trying to find their

:02:18. > :02:23.40 years ago I made this journey from the mainland to the Isle of

:02:23. > :02:28.Man. I was a young dancer looking forward to summer season, at a venue

:02:28. > :02:32.that was a real innovation for family entertainment. Little did I

:02:32. > :02:38.know how things would unfold for me. The place was Summerland, one of the

:02:38. > :02:44.biggest indoor entertainment centres in the world. Seven floors of family

:02:44. > :02:50.fun, no rain, no wind, no need to jet off to Spain. Its bronze tinted

:02:50. > :03:03.cladding, Oroglas, offered warm summer glow whatever the weather

:03:03. > :03:12.NEWS ARCHIVE: The fire is spreading Alan Jackson was a local DJ when he

:03:12. > :03:20.recorded that commentary on the 1973. I had the cassette my mother

:03:20. > :03:29.had bought me for my birthday, and as I crossed the crazy paving, the

:03:29. > :03:35.double glass doors burst open. NEWS ARCHIVE: People are running all

:03:35. > :03:46.over the place. Just one fire engine has arrived at the moment. Where are

:03:46. > :03:51.It feels very strange to be in this car park because this is the place I

:03:51. > :03:54.escaped to when I came out of the fire. I can hear it, when we are

:03:54. > :03:59.stood here it is tinged with so fire. I can hear it, when we are

:03:59. > :04:09.strong memories of what happened in Unlike so many others who are in

:04:09. > :04:17.this building behind me on the same night, in the same fire, and they

:04:17. > :04:22.NEWS ARCHIVE: Here comes the police now. The driver of the first fire

:04:22. > :04:27.engine was Alan Christian, who would go on to become the island's chief

:04:27. > :04:36.fire officer. Now retired, memories of that night have never left him.

:04:36. > :04:42.Obviously the number of bodies that were lined up on the floor on the

:04:42. > :04:50.staircase, that has stuck with me. The Fire Brigade was not cold until

:04:50. > :04:55.disused kiosk outside. Staff had tried to tackle it on where flames

:04:55. > :04:59.had already taken hold within the walls. The first alarm calls came

:04:59. > :05:05.from a taxi driver, and from a ship in Douglas Bay which had spotted

:05:05. > :05:08.smoke. I am still convinced today that if somebody had operated any of

:05:09. > :05:28.the fire alarm points within that building, it would have tripped

:05:28. > :05:30.the fire alarm points within that direct link to the fire station

:05:30. > :05:30.the fire alarm points within that we would have been mobilised. I

:05:30. > :05:33.still think today that we could we would have been mobilised. I

:05:33. > :05:36.Inside, I was about to go on stage. Then we saw smoke. There was an

:05:36. > :05:39.explosion, and flames burst through. Coming towards me then was a wall of

:05:39. > :05:42.flame. Literally, a wall of flame. Like a waterfall, but it was made up

:05:42. > :05:47.of flames. Floor—to—ceiling. Moving at what was quite a rapid rate

:05:47. > :05:55.before —— towards us. It would take less than ten minutes for the flames

:05:56. > :06:00.accidentally by three boys smoking. Oroglas was not the only issue.

:06:00. > :06:02.accidentally by three boys smoking. inquiry into the blaze identified a

:06:02. > :06:07.chain of management and design errors. First and foremost, and

:06:08. > :06:12.external walls not fire resistant. At the Manx Museum they have a

:06:12. > :06:16.collection of original Summerland promotional material. Seeing these

:06:16. > :06:21.images of happy, smiling faces is far removed from how I remember

:06:21. > :06:27.As the flames were coming nearer and nearer to us, people were on this

:06:27. > :06:33.balcony and I can remember people throwing their children, small

:06:33. > :06:36.children, off the balcony in the hope somebody would catch them,

:06:36. > :06:44.staircases were the first thing hope somebody would catch them,

:06:44. > :06:48.Amid those awful scenes, there were heroes. I have come across some

:06:48. > :06:54.Amid those awful scenes, there were man was in the public records, which

:06:54. > :07:03.tell the story of the local GP Richard Hamm, one of the first to

:07:03. > :07:07." Dr Hamm smashed a window and let himself down into the flames. Where

:07:07. > :07:18.he helped to casually the casualties out and dealt with them. A real

:07:18. > :07:25.Oh, dear! That is really putting me on the spot. Dr Hamm dismisses any

:07:25. > :07:29.suggestion of heroism, but we know he stationed himself at one fire

:07:29. > :07:32.expert working with firemen to casualties. The building might have

:07:32. > :07:38.collapsed, but this is what you casualties. The building might have

:07:38. > :07:48.There is nothing courageous about that. It is a fact of life. If you

:07:48. > :08:01.people's large do you think you impossible to say. I just do not

:08:01. > :08:02.far as I know, I need to be a bit cautious, but as far as I know

:08:02. > :08:12.nobody left where I was without cautious, but as far as I know

:08:12. > :08:17.After 40 years, it is right to actions. I was lucky. I did not

:08:17. > :08:23.require his heroic services that Behind me there was a huge plate

:08:23. > :08:29.glass window that overlooked the Aquadome. There was a big swimming

:08:29. > :08:33.pool there. The guys in the band were fantastic because they grab

:08:33. > :08:43.this trestle table and started was enormous. And I can remember

:08:43. > :08:47.feeling the heat on my face, and seeing the window almost bent,

:08:47. > :08:50.thinking, this is not going to go, if it does not go we have nowhere to

:08:50. > :09:00.smashed, and the band and asked if it does not go we have nowhere to

:09:00. > :09:04.dancers, in costume, run out —— if it does not go we have nowhere to

:09:04. > :09:11.out. In August, a memorial to all unveiled. 50 names including three

:09:11. > :09:18.members of the Cheetham family from Merseyside. Parents Dick and Betty

:09:18. > :09:24.The people that you loved went on holiday and did not come home.

:09:24. > :09:27.June's sister Heather did not join her family on their annual trip

:09:27. > :09:32.June's sister Heather did not join the isle of man, that year, she

:09:32. > :09:32.June's sister Heather did not join just got married. It is the worry ——

:09:32. > :09:37.wonder of what the future would just got married. It is the worry ——

:09:37. > :09:39.in. They would have seen the —— just got married. It is the worry ——

:09:39. > :09:46.children, their sister's children. What life would my sister have had,

:09:46. > :09:50.she would have been married, there would have been more family. It

:09:50. > :09:58.she would have been married, there sense of loss for what could have

:09:58. > :10:05.Seeing all the names on the stone makes me realise just how lucky

:10:05. > :10:07.Seeing all the names on the stone was to escape. Not just me, the

:10:07. > :10:09.Seeing all the names on the stone who was then my boyfriend and is now

:10:09. > :10:19.my husband, he escaped as well and he is with me, and is now the other

:10:19. > :10:28.And it just really brings home the words that are on the stone, we

:10:28. > :10:31.And it just really brings home the It is unknown. Everybody knows about

:10:31. > :10:33.Hillsborough, Zeebrugge all the other major disasters, but not the

:10:33. > :10:38.Summerland and the isle of man. other major disasters, but not the

:10:38. > :10:45.think it is hurtful for the people who have not only lost relatives,

:10:45. > :10:50.but the people who survived it. Coming up: Revealing the time when

:10:50. > :10:53.Couple of hundred years ago the closure of something that was so

:10:53. > :10:57.fundamental to the community would have been drastic, it was a real

:10:57. > :11:04.sense of loss. It's like the death of a section of the community,

:11:04. > :11:06.Alderley Edge is well known as home to numerous Premier League stars.

:11:06. > :11:10.But few sports are as glamorous to numerous Premier League stars.

:11:10. > :11:13.well paid as football. Rugby league has been facing a tough battle

:11:13. > :11:17.recently tackling high suicide rates. We sent BBC Radio Five Live's

:11:17. > :11:20.rugby league reporter George Riley sportsman can hold the key to better

:11:20. > :11:37.mental health across the north. It got bad. It probably got the

:11:37. > :11:44.point I decided I did not want to be here. Just totally gobsmacked.

:11:44. > :11:58.Devastated. Daniel had made so many plans. It is the darker side of

:11:58. > :12:02.for so long was hidden away. Suicide is by far the biggest killer of

:12:02. > :12:09.young men, it has become a talking point in rugby league, but even

:12:09. > :12:11.young men, it has become a talking I am going across the North to try

:12:11. > :12:15.and find out why we are being hit harder than other parts of the

:12:15. > :12:17.country, and whether rugby league can show the way in preventing

:12:17. > :12:40.Leads, we didn't —— Wigan, Bradford, Great Britain. Terry Newton was

:12:40. > :12:41.Leads, we didn't —— Wigan, Bradford, massive name in rugby. What happened

:12:41. > :12:44.to him three years ago shook the sporting world. I got a phone call

:12:44. > :12:50.from a friend of Terry's, and he I think there has been a terrible

:12:50. > :12:55.incident, I think Terry's hung himself. Terry Newton had been

:12:55. > :13:02.banned from rugby after taking growth hormone. I cheated the sport,

:13:02. > :13:05.I cheated the fans. But not even his best friends had any idea. Terry was

:13:05. > :13:09.good at hiding his problems and best friends had any idea. Terry was

:13:09. > :13:16.feelings. If you spoke to him, you would think nothing was wrong. We

:13:16. > :13:17.was all devastated. Rugby had to change, and tackle mental health

:13:17. > :13:26.Bishop Burton College, base for change, and tackle mental health

:13:26. > :13:30.FC's Academy. They are only just starting out. This could be the

:13:30. > :13:34.FC's Academy. They are only just important piece of training they

:13:34. > :13:41.get. What we do know is you work experience rough times. O'clock

:13:41. > :13:43.get. What we do know is you work the charity State of Mind. If you

:13:43. > :13:46.can get people to be mentally fit and deal with the ups and downs

:13:47. > :13:48.can get people to be mentally fit life, you may not feel overwhelmed

:13:48. > :13:59.where you feel there is no other way out. Being restless, so it is hard

:13:59. > :14:03.Phil is an NHS practitioner. Jimmy Gittens, a former professional

:14:03. > :14:13.player, was initially paralysed It was just more the fact that what

:14:13. > :14:18.I had been given as a prospect of The darkest point came when I asked

:14:18. > :14:23.my brother to put a pillow over The darkest point came when I asked

:14:23. > :14:25.face. I felt like that was the only Clearly, my situation was quite

:14:25. > :14:32.horrendous. I would not wish on Clearly, my situation was quite

:14:32. > :14:38.the end of the day, it's the cards I have been dealt and I have got to

:14:38. > :14:40.But even without an horrific injury, professional sport brings huge

:14:40. > :14:45.stress. Many suffer from depression. There were some times where I felt

:14:45. > :14:49.low and I guess I did not realise it was the stress of the job and the

:14:49. > :14:52.depression I had got into. We live in a macho, tough, violent and

:14:52. > :14:56.aggressive game and it is almost taboo to feel any weakness, both

:14:56. > :14:59.Suicide, depression — issues that are now being openly discussed

:14:59. > :15:05.within rugby league are mirrored in When we first began, we noticed

:15:05. > :15:07.within rugby league are mirrored in the suicide rates in all Super

:15:07. > :15:11.League areas and rugby league club areas were higher than the national

:15:11. > :15:15.average. Because that is the case, you realise there is a potential

:15:16. > :15:22.Do we have a bigger problem with suicides than we do in other areas

:15:22. > :15:27.If you were to draw a line through the country roughly at Sheffield,

:15:27. > :15:31.suicides north of that line. The rate of suicide in the north versus

:15:31. > :15:36.London is about 20% higher. There are a number of reasons behind that.

:15:36. > :15:39.What are those factors? I have come to the north—east where there is a

:15:40. > :15:44.higher rate of suicide in men than any other part of England. I am

:15:44. > :15:53.meeting one mum who, overnight, Daniel was 19. He was very popular.

:15:53. > :15:58.We went out shopping one day, left Daniel at home. And we returned

:15:58. > :16:00.We went out shopping one day, left that day without two of the boys and

:16:00. > :16:06.found him and he had taken his own life. He was just an ordinary, happy

:16:06. > :16:17.young man that sometimes would be down in the dumps. But nothing that

:16:17. > :16:24.think that day will stay with us forever. There are some days it

:16:24. > :16:26.think that day will stay with us easier to manage than others, but,

:16:26. > :16:46.fundamentally, it destroys who you feelings so his family set up a

:16:46. > :16:51.talking about suicide. If You Care, The charity now has three aims which

:16:51. > :16:54.intervention of suicide through The charity now has three aims which

:16:54. > :17:03.training workshops and support for Unfortunately, the numbers increase.

:17:03. > :17:06.We are supporting and, although Unfortunately, the numbers increase.

:17:06. > :17:10.are only a small organisation, this week we will hit over the 200 mark

:17:10. > :17:16.for the people who have been touched Why do you think there is such a

:17:16. > :17:23.high number of suicides in this A lot of people say it is because of

:17:23. > :17:28.the employment rates, men's roles predominantly the reason why we

:17:28. > :17:30.the employment rates, men's roles a problem is that it is still one of

:17:30. > :17:38.those, real men don't cry or show Can professional sportsmen finally

:17:38. > :17:41.These are iconic figures in their local community and if those figures

:17:41. > :17:44.talk about mental health, and talk challenges, it gives the OK to

:17:44. > :18:02.everybody else to feel they can It is August, game 25 of the Super

:18:02. > :18:05.League season. State of Mind is targeting a number of high profile

:18:05. > :18:12.games to attack high suicide rates That gives you all the details about

:18:12. > :18:15.the services in the area. This has been recognised by all sorts of

:18:15. > :18:23.famous people and on Twitter as breaks so many boundaries down.

:18:23. > :18:23.famous people and on Twitter as dad used to sit by the side of my

:18:23. > :18:28.bed and say, penny for them. He dad used to sit by the side of my

:18:28. > :18:36.what I were thinking, but he needed to get it out of me to help me.

:18:36. > :18:39.what I were thinking, but he needed At one of the particular games in

:18:39. > :18:43.that weekend and a person came up to us to talk about their particular

:18:43. > :18:46.circumstance. What we did is discuss that with the person, show them

:18:47. > :18:49.circumstance. What we did is discuss information with our website. They

:18:49. > :18:53.came back at the end of the game and said, I was contemplating taking my

:18:53. > :18:58.own life tonight and I don't think I will do that now. I think that is

:18:58. > :19:07.quite a powerful thing for any project to be able to achieve.

:19:07. > :19:16.Imagine waking up one morning to restaurants had been closed, not on

:19:16. > :19:20.religion. There would be an outcry. But a century or so ago, that is

:19:20. > :19:25.what happened in a small part of investigating the little—known story

:19:25. > :19:41.of Britain's first Muslim lord. Somewhere around about here, yes.

:19:41. > :19:45.searching for the last resting place of an enigmatic English aristocrat.

:19:45. > :19:47.A Muslim, peer of the realm, who challenge the status quo and helped

:19:47. > :20:01.This was his father and this was his mother. But, of Henry Edward John,

:20:01. > :20:19.the third Baron Stanley of Alderney, this engraving is the only clue

:20:19. > :20:21.The memorial lies here in St Mary's Church and Nether Alderney, where

:20:21. > :20:25.Henry Stanley's family had been Church and Nether Alderney, where

:20:25. > :20:32.of the manor since the middle of the This is known as the Stanley Pew and

:20:32. > :20:33.it is where the Stanley family would have sat for morning prayers and

:20:33. > :20:39.when they attended services. It have sat for morning prayers and

:20:39. > :20:44.an external entrance so they would not have to mix with the hoi polloi

:20:44. > :20:48.down here. I think the message of this is, we are the top dog, we

:20:48. > :20:49.down here. I think the message of in charge. You can't get any higher

:20:49. > :20:53.in the church and they are very in charge. You can't get any higher

:20:53. > :20:55.looking down and surveying, so I think it is clear the message it

:20:55. > :21:09.Parliament but his family persuaded him to move to Constantinople to

:21:09. > :21:14.work with the diplomatic service. Here, he began his love affair with

:21:14. > :21:16.Eastern culture. Over the next decade, he travelled through Asia,

:21:17. > :21:36.Lord Stanley lived here in Alderley Park. The land you see around me and

:21:36. > :22:00.miles more of it was owned by his pharmaceutical giant AstraZeneca.

:22:00. > :22:03.candles, live musicians in the corner, house guests dancing the

:22:03. > :22:09.night away, servants tending to corner, house guests dancing the

:22:09. > :22:17.every need. Now it is used as a conference room by AstraZeneca.

:22:17. > :22:20.At the age of 35, Henry rejected Christianity and converted to Islam.

:22:20. > :22:26.A truly remarkable step for the Christianity and converted to Islam.

:22:26. > :22:29.It is believed he took the name Abdul Rahman. But according to local

:22:29. > :22:33.historian Clare Pye, it was not Abdul Rahman. But according to local

:22:33. > :22:39.only secret he had kept from his Henry went to his mother and told

:22:39. > :22:47.her that he had been married for seven years to a Spanish lady called

:22:47. > :22:53.absolutely gobsmacked by this, as you might expect. Old Lady Stanley,

:22:53. > :23:00.in particular, was extremely upset because Fabia was already married.

:23:00. > :23:04.Her husband was still living when she married Henry. It was bigamous

:23:04. > :23:19.As a Muslim, Henry's religious beliefs meant he could not allow the

:23:19. > :23:27.without discussion, he shut the beliefs meant he could not allow the

:23:27. > :23:30.public houses on the estate. The Eagle and Child lay on the old main

:23:30. > :23:38.road between Manchester and London travellers. So, Janet, you used

:23:38. > :23:39.road between Manchester and London live here, then? Yes, I owned the

:23:39. > :23:44.property right through from the early 90s to about a year ago. Lord

:23:44. > :23:48.Stanley closed this place down though, didn't he? At the time,

:23:48. > :23:51.Stanley closed this place down was a abit of a sense of loss,

:23:51. > :23:54.really. A couple of hundred years ago, the closure of something that

:23:54. > :23:58.was so fundamental to the community would have been drastic. It is like

:23:58. > :24:02.a death or a bereavement for a section of the community. So Lord

:24:03. > :24:09.Stanley had the power? The absolute power. It was his land, his rules,

:24:09. > :24:12.community had to go with it, end of Britain's Islamic heritage began in

:24:12. > :24:19.Liverpool with the country's first mosque at number eight Brougham

:24:19. > :24:21.Terrace. It was set up by William Quilliam, a Liverpool lawyer, who

:24:21. > :24:25.became a Muslim after visiting Morocco. He took the name Sheikh

:24:25. > :24:53.For a short period, the Liverpool centre of Islam. Abdullah Quilliam

:24:53. > :25:00.Henry would make the trip from journey that would not have been

:25:00. > :25:05.undertaken lightly. Looking around, it is hard to believe that this

:25:05. > :25:07.undertaken lightly. Looking around, country. Abdullah Quilliam opened

:25:07. > :25:22.succeeded his father as Lord Stanley in 1869, becoming the first Muslim

:25:22. > :25:30.peer of the House of Lords. He died in 1903, aged 76, and Quilliam led

:25:30. > :25:38.the Islamic funeral. If you look carefully, you can just about see an

:25:38. > :25:42.Stanley's body would have been brought through that archway in

:25:42. > :25:44.Stanley's body would have been the main mosque, here. His body

:25:44. > :25:49.would have been washed the Islamic known Islamically as Janaza, held

:25:49. > :25:51.here. The congregation would have faced that way, towards Mecca, then

:25:51. > :26:10.churchyard. He is buried down the road, down the A34, in a little

:26:10. > :26:13.because it is on private land. Shall we go and see if we can have a look?

:26:13. > :26:32.I think that would be great, yes. knowledge, a bit of trekking and

:26:32. > :26:38.request not to reveal the exact location for the sake of privacy.

:26:38. > :26:46.There it is. Oh, my goodness, yes. he was buried facing Mecca, I am

:26:46. > :26:57.presuming. I presume so, yes. See anything on here. See what it says.

:26:57. > :27:10.Oh, yes. Henry Edward John, third Baron Stanley of Alderney. July

:27:10. > :27:16.Oh, yes. Henry Edward John, third something. December 1903. Which

:27:16. > :27:18.Oh, yes. Henry Edward John, third that great? Do you know much about

:27:18. > :27:22.the funeral service and how that was held? We know that they contacted

:27:22. > :27:27.the Turkish Embassy because the First Secretary came up for the

:27:27. > :27:29.funeral. He brought the imam with him who said the final prayers here

:27:29. > :27:39.at the graveside. This place is him who said the final prayers here

:27:39. > :27:45.it? It is not in the park, no, but it is on Alderley land, so you could

:27:45. > :27:52.say he was buried on home territory. And this place, I think, is a lovely

:27:52. > :27:54.peaceful place to be buried. I think maybe we should leave Lord Stanley

:27:54. > :28:08.in peace now. I think so, yes. Nazia Mogra and the story of Lord

:28:08. > :28:10.Stanley. Restoration work on the mosque in Liverpool is due to finish

:28:10. > :28:15.by Christmas. Don't forget, you mosque in Liverpool is due to finish

:28:15. > :28:19.catch us again on the BBC iPlayer, but we are back next Monday at

:28:19. > :28:30.Next week, following recent food scares, we ask if it is time to

:28:30. > :28:30.Next week, following recent food back to basics. You can't let the

:28:30. > :28:37.customer down. If they have got